Rebel News Podcast - Alberta's “controversial” bill to extend pro-choice protection to doctors who refuse to assist with abortions or suicide

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I talk about the war against pro-choice.

00:00:04.400 That's what the media party calls it, but really, it's the Alberta government

00:00:08.020 introducing a bill to give physicians the choice to opt out of referring patients

00:00:16.280 for abortions or assisted suicide. Is it pro-choice to force a doctor

00:00:22.880 to refer someone for an abortion? I'll go through and I'll show you how the media,

00:00:28.860 they use one word to describe this bill over and over again.

00:00:32.000 I wonder if you can guess in advance what that is.

00:00:37.240 If you haven't joined yet, can I invite you to become a premium member?

00:00:41.380 It's eight bucks a month. And you get the video version of the podcast.

00:00:46.200 You get Sheila Gunn-Reed's show. She's great. David Manzi's show. He's great.

00:00:51.720 And you get the knowledge that your eight bucks a month helps keep the rebels strong.

00:00:54.780 Even if you don't watch it every day, I think it's worth doing.

00:01:00.000 We depend on it here at The Rebel, by the way.

00:01:03.280 Just go to premium.rebelnews.com.

00:01:07.900 Okay, here's the podcast.

00:01:13.500 You're listening to a Rebel News Podcast.

00:01:15.920 Tonight, does pro-choice include whether a doctor has the choice not to help someone

00:01:29.520 get an abortion or commit suicide? I've got news from Alberta. It's November 8th,

00:01:34.740 and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:38.360 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:41.880 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:46.220 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's

00:01:50.600 my bloody right to do so.

00:01:57.260 You know there are no abortion laws in Canada at all, right? Literally no laws.

00:02:04.160 In the 1980s, there was a Supreme Court of Canada ruling that threw the matter back to Parliament

00:02:08.960 and told them to write a law, and then the unelected Senate killed it in a tie vote. 1.00

00:02:17.020 A tie vote in our unelected, unaccountable Senate.

00:02:21.120 And ever since, there has been no law at all.

00:02:24.320 You can literally abort a little baby for any reason or no reason right up until the moment of birth.

00:02:33.640 One minute before the baby's born, you can abort it.

00:02:35.980 In fact, there is an extreme procedure called a partial birth abortion, 0.81

00:02:39.600 where the healthy baby is partly delivered and it's aborted during its birth.

00:02:44.140 That's legal in Canada.

00:02:45.900 A decade ago, when I published the magazine called The Western Standard,

00:02:50.000 we did a study on sex-select abortions by Asian immigrants,

00:02:56.700 as in Chinese and South Asian families, who didn't want girls.

00:03:02.460 So they'd get pregnant, and then they would go to the doctor to find out the sex of the baby.

00:03:09.840 And if it was a boy, great, they'd proceed with the birth.

00:03:12.520 If it was a girl baby, they would get an abortion and then try again for a boy. 0.97

00:03:20.940 Our reporter, Andrea Morozek, cross-referenced the sex of new babies born in certain hospitals

00:03:27.920 with the percentage of immigrants from those cultures,

00:03:31.460 it's a pretty solid correlation.

00:03:34.680 Like I say, abortion is legal for any reason or no reason from the moment of conception to the moment of birth.

00:03:41.440 In the lower mainland of B.C., new immigrants don't want girls, so they're aborting them. 1.00

00:03:46.760 Do you doubt that if a gay gene were ever found, that many babies would be aborted? 0.94

00:03:56.480 Families would test, and if there was the gay gene in their babies, they would abort them and try again. 0.99

00:04:01.900 I mean, if a culture doesn't want girls, I'm going to guess they don't want gay boys either.

00:04:07.220 Now, this isn't just a right-wing story.

00:04:10.140 Here's the Toronto Star talking about the same thing seven years ago in the Star.

00:04:17.200 Sex-select abortions. 0.53

00:04:18.680 I'm not sure if the Star would be allowed to talk about it today.

00:04:23.380 It would probably be called racist or something.

00:04:27.960 For about 50 years, women were in the driver's seat politically, you know. 1.00

00:04:32.920 What I mean by that is feminism was on the march.

00:04:36.540 It was win after win after win for women for 50 years, I think.

00:04:42.320 But I think that has pretty much come screeching to a halt in the past couple of years.

00:04:46.180 Trans men are the new hot thing. 0.95

00:04:48.340 Women are being erased from the podium in women's sports, for example. 1.00

00:04:53.100 And the idea of caring about girl babies is way too pro-life for our culture in 2019. 0.99

00:05:02.720 It's very sad, I think.

00:05:04.040 But I think it's true that the opposite of pro-life eventually becomes pro-death.

00:05:12.900 That's where the anti-human environmental agenda inevitably goes.

00:05:18.000 If you think that people are a cancer on the planet, if you believe Greta Thunberg,

00:05:23.280 well, the logical extension is to not have any more babies, not have any more kids at all.

00:05:27.820 Well, and then I suppose to contemplate suicide, I think that's where we are as a culture.

00:05:36.600 And I tell you all this because there's a tiny microscopic bit of pushback going on against this culture of death right now in the province of Alberta.

00:05:43.940 No, no, no, no, no.

00:05:45.200 They're not looking to ban abortion or whatever Jason Kenney's shrillest opponents want to do.

00:05:50.320 Actually, they want to bring back a little bit of pro-choice, real pro-choice.

00:05:54.140 I think that's what they're actually doing out there.

00:05:56.100 As in pro-choice implies that there is a choice up to you, the individual.

00:06:00.640 So if you want to be pro-life, you can be.

00:06:03.260 And if you don't, you don't have to be.

00:06:06.200 So, for example, if you're a doctor and you don't believe in abortion,

00:06:11.460 I would think that the phrase pro-choice would mean that it's up to you.

00:06:15.860 You have the choice as a doctor not to do abortions or not to counsel abortions if you don't want to.

00:06:22.060 I think that's what pro-choice means for a doctor.

00:06:24.480 I don't know. I'm not an expert.

00:06:26.420 So recently there has been pressure on doctors who are pro-life or Christian or other religious faiths

00:06:32.020 that don't allow abortion or assisted suicide.

00:06:34.580 There's been pressure on them to comply with the culture, despite the Hippocratic oath of do no harm.

00:06:40.460 That's the essential doctor's motto going back millennia.

00:06:43.460 So one of the changes Kenney is introducing, or at least Kenney's government, at least the backbench MLA,

00:06:52.140 is that doctors who are pro-life can't be forced to refer a patient for an abortion or an assisted suicide.

00:06:59.020 It's not taking away the patient's rights to do those things.

00:07:03.260 It's protecting the doctor's rights not to have to do those things.

00:07:07.460 And look at how the media party has reacted.

00:07:09.800 This is just an example.

00:07:11.080 Here's a liberal named Jason Markisoff, who writes for a liberal magazine called McLean's.

00:07:15.820 He said, Jason Kenney's party, having already rolled back LGBTQ protections,

00:07:21.280 backed first reading for a bill that empowers doctors to refuse and not even refer for services

00:07:27.180 like abortion or medically assisted suicide.

00:07:31.480 Hang on a second.

00:07:32.320 Did Jason Kenney also roll back LGBTQ protections?

00:07:36.080 If so, I think I missed it.

00:07:37.840 Is it no longer legal to be gay married in Alberta?

00:07:43.640 Is it now lawful for gays to be fired because they're gay or denied a bus ticket on a bus because they're gay or something?

00:07:51.160 No, of course not.

00:07:52.360 It's just that now, I think the change that Markisoff's referring to there, somewhat deceptively,

00:07:56.520 it's just now that teachers, if they choose, can talk to parents about kids in gay clubs at school.

00:08:06.800 Now, under Rachel Notley's authoritarian regime, teachers were literally forbidden by law from talking to parents about their own kids

00:08:15.220 and what was going on with them as adolescents, even if there was a problem.

00:08:19.180 They were legally forbidden.

00:08:21.380 How bizarre is that to treat parents as the enemy and even teachers as the enemy?

00:08:25.200 That's what McLean calls a rollback, letting teachers choose to talk to parents about the kids that they're helping.

00:08:33.240 But here's the story he linked to, Edmonton Journal story.

00:08:38.940 Alberta private members bill aiming for physician conscience rights moves forward.

00:08:44.260 So it's not even a Jason Kenney law, it's a backbenchers private members bill.

00:08:48.840 Let me read a little bit from the story.

00:08:50.280 A bill that aims to protect the conscience rights of physicians passed first reading in the Alberta legislature Thursday,

00:08:56.880 cracking open a debate about the rights and responsibilities of physicians asked to assist or advise on abortions,

00:09:02.860 contraception, or medically assisted deaths.

00:09:07.120 UCP backbencher MLA Dan Williams introduced the private members bill to reassert

00:09:11.780 the Charter-Protected Freedom of Conscience and Religion for Health Providers.

00:09:16.180 Health care providers should never have to choose between their most deeply held beliefs and their job,

00:09:19.980 said Williams in a written statement released after the vote.

00:09:23.320 The bill would amend the Alberta Human Rights Act to include conscientious beliefs

00:09:28.040 as a basis for protection from discrimination or refusal of employment.

00:09:33.000 In a vote split along party lines, with all 36 UCP members in attendance voting in favor

00:09:37.940 and all 15 NDP opposition members in attendance voting against,

00:09:41.980 the bill has been referred to a standing committee.

00:09:43.840 Okay, so I guess it does look like, it looks like a government bill

00:09:48.060 since all the UCP and MLA's voted for it.

00:09:51.400 But imagine voting against adding conscientious beliefs to the Alberta Human Rights Law.

00:09:58.840 Don't we have those conscientious beliefs rooted in law right now?

00:10:03.000 In fact, indeed, we do.

00:10:05.200 Have you ever read our Charter of Rights and Freedoms?

00:10:07.560 Look at the very first freedom enumerated under the section called Fundamental Freedoms.

00:10:12.920 Because everyone has the following fundamental freedoms.

00:10:16.680 A, freedom of conscience and religion.

00:10:19.580 It is the first one in the list.

00:10:22.480 How is it a controversy that that exact same wording be put into provincial laws

00:10:27.800 that are bound by it anyways?

00:10:29.800 Controversy.

00:10:30.400 That's what CTV called it.

00:10:32.260 Controversial.

00:10:33.100 Oh, yeah.

00:10:34.260 All the media use that same word.

00:10:36.500 Here's the Toronto Star.

00:10:38.200 It's controversial.

00:10:39.680 And apparently, according to the media, this is also somehow anti-gay.

00:10:47.220 What?

00:10:48.300 What?

00:10:48.720 How is it anti-gay?

00:10:51.620 Anyway, so I read the bill.

00:10:54.120 It's very brief.

00:10:56.040 I just want to read a couple parts to it.

00:10:57.980 The first part of the Conscient Rights, but here.

00:10:59.980 Number two.

00:11:00.820 For greater certainty, nothing in this act derogates from a health care provider's

00:11:05.380 or religious health care organization's obligations to their patients.

00:11:09.680 Which may include informing individuals of options in respect of receiving a health care service.

00:11:14.560 So this private member's bill doesn't take away any medical duties.

00:11:19.180 It just says the patient can't force the doctor to do anything contrary to his religion.

00:11:23.660 Let me quote.

00:11:25.320 If a health care provider, that's a fancy way of saying a doctor,

00:11:28.120 or religious health care organization determines that their conscientious beliefs

00:11:33.340 would be infringed by providing a specific health care service to an individual,

00:11:37.780 the health care provider or religious health care organization is not required to provide

00:11:42.520 that health care service to the individual.

00:11:45.920 And that's pretty much it for the bill.

00:11:49.160 There's just some more details that you can't file a professional complaint against a doctor

00:11:53.660 for conscientious beliefs.

00:11:57.100 Pretty short bill.

00:11:57.740 I double-checked it.

00:11:59.860 The word gay is not in the law.

00:12:03.280 The word trans is not in the law.

00:12:06.140 There's none of those things in the law.

00:12:07.880 I checked.

00:12:09.340 The word abortion is not in there.

00:12:11.620 I checked.

00:12:13.120 The word charter is in there eight times.

00:12:17.680 And the word rights is in there 12 times.

00:12:21.680 It's, I don't even think the law is necessary because it's just reasserting what the charter said.

00:12:26.860 But that's where we are as a culture in 2019.

00:12:31.120 The media party is outraged that doctors who are Jewish, Christian, Sikh, Muslim, whatever,

00:12:39.220 cannot be compelled to go against their religion.

00:12:44.760 How do they square that?

00:12:46.980 These are the same media who are all in a tizzy about Quebec banning religious symbols

00:12:55.840 in their public service through Bill 21.

00:12:58.800 How do you square that with trying to force religious people in Alberta to do things they don't want?

00:13:04.600 How did that work?

00:13:06.960 I think Donald Trump was right.

00:13:10.060 I think the fake news media are the enemy of the people.

00:13:15.380 Stay with us for more.

00:13:16.360 It gives the Chinese the ability, if they choose to use it, to access all kinds of information,

00:13:38.480 civilian, intelligence, military, that could be very, very compromising.

00:13:43.280 So I, much as I disagree with the Trump administration on a number of things, on this,

00:13:48.900 their concern about Huawei, I believe they're right.

00:13:51.660 As a matter of protection, would the United States have to have a slightly different security

00:13:56.000 relationship with Canada?

00:13:57.060 Yes.

00:13:57.660 And that will throw the Five Eyes collaboration, which serves the security interests of every

00:14:04.420 Canadian and every American, into jeopardy. 0.89

00:14:08.740 We just, it can't be done.

00:14:11.180 Can't share.

00:14:11.700 I don't see how we can share in the way we have.

00:14:14.760 It's not a joke.

00:14:16.460 It's truly serious.

00:14:18.780 Incredible.

00:14:19.460 That's Susan Rice, former national security advisor to Barack Obama.

00:14:23.060 I can't think of a single thing she would support Donald Trump on.

00:14:26.860 But she says on the concerns for Huawei, the massive Chinese telecommunications company,

00:14:32.860 Trump is right, and that it is a danger that every country in the West should ward off.

00:14:41.580 Well, joining us now to talk about this issue is the author of a new essay on this subject

00:14:48.180 from the Gate Stone Institute entitled, Do Not Support China's Huawei, Cripple It Instead.

00:14:54.700 And the author of this piece is our good friend Gordon Chang, who is also the author of The

00:15:00.100 Coming Collapse of China. 0.58

00:15:01.520 You can follow him on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang.

00:15:04.720 Gordon, great to see you again.

00:15:06.000 I was a little bit surprised to hear such a hard line from Susan Rice, a Democrat.

00:15:14.980 That suggests this is a bipartisan security issue, isn't it?

00:15:19.620 Well, it certainly is.

00:15:21.060 And China is becoming a bipartisan issue as well, because there's a perception across the

00:15:26.480 American political spectrum that China is a malign actor.

00:15:30.200 Now, not everyone shares that view, but many people do.

00:15:34.220 And indeed, we are starting to see consensuses form on what to do about China.

00:15:39.620 That, of course, is new as well.

00:15:42.060 I saw recently Pew Research, which regularly surveys countries around the world on China,

00:15:49.520 has shown a hardening of opinions towards China, especially here in Canada.

00:15:54.520 And I link that to Huawei, as you know, when Canada arrested a senior executive from Huawei

00:16:00.540 and they retaliated by virtually, I would say, kidnapping two Canadian civilians.

00:16:06.160 It's been almost a year now.

00:16:07.480 I think Canadians were sort of shaken out of this dream that we can all have a harmonious

00:16:12.960 capitalist relationship with China as if it was just, you know, the UK or France or something.

00:16:18.220 Do you think that ordinary Canadians and Americans are starting to get China's number, that they're

00:16:25.980 actually faking capitalists?

00:16:29.660 They're more about, you know, stealing intellectual property, having unfair trade deals that are

00:16:38.880 one-sided.

00:16:39.600 Do you think ordinary grassroots people in Canada and the United States are starting to figure

00:16:42.860 out what's going on?

00:16:44.600 Yeah, I think so.

00:16:45.440 And that is reflected in the Pew and the other surveys.

00:16:49.240 You know, Ezra, it's not like the Trump administration is innately hostile to China or, you know, anybody

00:16:56.200 else.

00:16:56.980 What's driving this is Xi Jinping, the Chinese ruler.

00:17:00.540 And he's doing things that are forcing countries to understand the essential and hostile nature

00:17:05.620 of China's brand of communism.

00:17:08.080 You know, you refer to the detention of Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of Huawei,

00:17:12.620 and what China did in response, which is the grabbing of the two Michaels, and also stopping 0.96

00:17:20.440 imports of Canadian canola and other commodities.

00:17:24.420 This is just serious.

00:17:25.880 And we got to understand that China poses this mortal threat, not only to Canada, not only to 0.99

00:17:31.220 the United States, but to the international system as a whole.

00:17:34.240 In your essay, you say that 5G is shorthand for the fifth generation of wireless communication.

00:17:40.120 But it's not just an incremental change.

00:17:41.840 This is a huge leap.

00:17:43.900 This would be similar to moving from a landline on your desk to a cell phone.

00:17:48.840 It's almost that kind of incredible jump.

00:17:51.040 What can you tell us about 5G?

00:17:52.480 And why should we be afraid if Huawei has all the hardware and the technical infrastructure?

00:17:59.180 Why is that a threat?

00:18:00.100 Well, 5G will have super fast speeds, maybe 2,000 times faster than 4G.

00:18:07.300 This will permit all the devices in the world to be connected through what has been now called

00:18:12.720 the Internet of Things.

00:18:14.480 So if everything is connected, it's all on Huawei equipment, and Huawei certainly is a leader

00:18:19.280 in providing 5G equipment around the world, then what's going to happen is that China will 0.85

00:18:24.120 have access to all the data in the world.

00:18:26.580 But also, there's an other side to this, and that is as devices are connected in the

00:18:32.480 Internet of Things, China very well be able to manipulate them. 0.96

00:18:36.700 So for instance, as I point out in the piece, you know, they could drive your car off the

00:18:41.520 cliff because it'll be a self-driving car.

00:18:43.800 They could turn off your pacemaker.

00:18:45.600 They could do all sorts of things with control of 5G.

00:18:49.540 And that's why this is so critical.

00:18:52.000 Now, I like the headline of your piece, do not support China's Huawei.

00:18:57.680 Okay, that's step one.

00:18:59.820 That's, I guess, what Susan Rice would be saying.

00:19:02.300 Cripple it instead. 1.00

00:19:03.720 Now, that's a new angle.

00:19:07.200 How could the West cripple what is a mighty company? 0.94

00:19:11.660 I'd say it's almost on par with an Apple or a Samsung or a Google.

00:19:17.100 In fact, it might even be ahead of a couple of those.

00:19:19.600 How are you going to take on such a mighty company?

00:19:22.800 Well, you know, first of all, it is a mighty company.

00:19:25.140 It's the world's largest telecom equipment provider.

00:19:28.400 It's the world's largest maker of smartphones.

00:19:31.140 But it's dependent on technology from other countries, especially the United States.

00:19:36.980 So, for instance, it's cell phones.

00:19:39.280 You know, it relies on Google's Android system, and it relies on the Play Store.

00:19:44.860 Now, Huawei cannot offer that.

00:19:49.160 So, while it can sell phones in China, because cell phones in China don't have access to the

00:19:54.980 Google Play Store, they, you know, it's absolutely essential everywhere else in the world.

00:19:59.880 Also, it depends on chips from around the world.

00:20:03.100 Not only American chips, but Japanese, South Korean, Taiwan made chips.

00:20:07.260 And if the United States is able to get countries to not sell those chips, Huawei is in trouble,

00:20:13.840 because although China is developing its own chipsets, it is far behind.

00:20:19.760 Some of the criticisms of Google and Facebook and companies like that is that they're so big,

00:20:26.700 they pose a political or economic risk.

00:20:29.040 So, there's some talk in Washington about trust-busting or breaking up those huge, huge companies.

00:20:35.680 Is there anything that could be done legally like that to Huawei, or does it come down to

00:20:41.700 banning the technology?

00:20:42.980 I mean, you say it's the largest company in the world.

00:20:45.860 Are there other creative tools that Congress could use to take a run at it? 0.69

00:20:50.660 Or are there creative tools that the Justice Department in the U.S. can use?

00:20:54.640 So, for instance, you know, finding Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver and, you know, issuing a request

00:21:01.400 for extradition.

00:21:02.600 This is really going to hurt Huawei, because she's the CFO.

00:21:08.040 She is, some people think, supposed to be the next chairman of Huawei.

00:21:15.320 So, you know, there's a lot that the U.S. can do.

00:21:18.080 And, of course, as I mentioned, Huawei equipment, Huawei itself and many of its subsidiaries are on

00:21:24.480 the U.S. Commerce Department's entity list.

00:21:26.540 That prevents U.S. companies from selling or licensing technology to Huawei without approval,

00:21:33.600 prior approval from the Commerce Department.

00:21:36.020 These are basically death sentences if they're enforced.

00:21:39.960 Now, what I talked about is that right now, the Commerce Department is thinking of granting

00:21:44.780 waivers for sales and licenses to Huawei.

00:21:48.580 That would be a big mistake.

00:21:49.920 Well, in some ways, Donald Trump is not afraid of getting very brutal on sanctions.

00:21:55.420 He's actually, despite the narrative that he's a Russian pawn, he's strengthened sanctions

00:22:01.520 against Russia beyond anything Obama did.

00:22:04.540 He is very blunt in his threats to Turkey lately.

00:22:08.180 So, simply putting trades with Huawei, selling chips to Huawei on a banned list would seem almost

00:22:17.220 anticlimactic after his other sanctions.

00:22:20.880 Who is the lobby in America on Huawei's side?

00:22:24.800 Is it just companies who think, wow, that's a huge market.

00:22:27.820 Let us sell to them.

00:22:29.460 We'll get rid, as Vladimir Lenin said, the capitalists can be counted on to sell us the

00:22:34.400 noose we hang them.

00:22:35.260 Is that who the counterweight here?

00:22:37.540 It's just people looking to make a buck?

00:22:40.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:41.580 So, for instance, you have the chip companies that want to sell to Huawei.

00:22:45.200 And what they've been doing is they've been trying to figure out a way around these entity

00:22:49.400 list restrictions.

00:22:50.740 So, for instance, they think that chips made by U.S.

00:22:54.820 companies abroad are not covered by the entity list.

00:22:58.020 So, they've been making sales to Huawei.

00:23:00.580 There's all sorts of things that they're doing.

00:23:02.340 But they are the parties that have asked for exemptions.

00:23:06.400 Google, you mentioned, has also asked for a waiver from the entity list restrictions.

00:23:12.280 Commerce Department has received 260 requests for waivers from the entity list rules.

00:23:19.120 And so, you can see that there are a lot of companies out there that are the lobby for Huawei.

00:23:23.960 Let me ask you one last question.

00:23:25.900 I saw just today a video from Xinhua News, one of their propaganda outlets, of robots, Chinese 0.69

00:23:35.440 robots that look like little dogs or something.

00:23:39.720 And it's terrifying.

00:23:41.040 They call it the Dreying robot, weighs just under 100 pounds.

00:23:46.020 And my immediate thought was, I've seen that robot before in the United States from a company

00:23:52.580 called Boston Dynamics.

00:23:54.100 And it's the same thing when I look at the latest Chinese fighter planes.

00:23:59.920 I think I've seen that before.

00:24:01.400 That's called an F-35 or an F-22.

00:24:03.760 It's so clearly stolen or espionaged the blueprints.

00:24:10.960 Is that an angle that America can take steps on?

00:24:14.060 Because I saw that little robot dog, and I thought, that is exactly, I mean, I guess theoretically

00:24:19.960 it could have been developed at the same time, but I don't believe that.

00:24:22.600 I think it was stolen.

00:24:24.000 And Google probably have half its invention stolen too.

00:24:27.620 Is this just speculation on my part, or is there anything tangible here?

00:24:31.240 And can we do anything about it?

00:24:33.120 No, it's certainly tangible, Ezra.

00:24:35.580 The U.S. believes that somewhere between, let's say, $150 to $600 billion a year of U.S.

00:24:42.100 innovation is stolen by the Chinese. 1.00

00:24:44.480 That's from the Commission on the Theft of U.S. Intellectual Property, otherwise known

00:24:49.000 as the Blair Huntsman Report.

00:24:50.480 It's also derived from estimates that the U.S. trade representative put together and issued

00:24:56.420 in its report in 2018.

00:24:58.940 And both of those have been updated this year.

00:25:01.240 So there's a lot of investigation that has gone into those conclusions.

00:25:05.920 And the one thing that the Trump administration has done is impose tariffs under Section 301

00:25:10.820 of the Trade Act of 1974 as a remedy for the theft of U.S. IP.

00:25:16.580 And, you know, it's not just U.S. IP.

00:25:18.320 It's Canadian IP and IP from Europe and elsewhere.

00:25:21.860 So China has been just stealing all this stuff.

00:25:24.140 And you mentioned the F-35.

00:25:26.440 Well, China has a J-20, which looks just like our F-35 and which is built by Americans, 0.77

00:25:33.580 basically, because it's our technology.

00:25:36.440 Incredible.

00:25:36.960 And, of course, there's a story of Nortel, which was once the Canadian telecom champion,

00:25:41.140 just absolutely undone by Chinese espionage.

00:25:43.880 Gordon, you always give us so much to think about.

00:25:46.200 I highly recommend your essay.

00:25:48.640 Let me just read out the headline of it again.

00:25:50.660 It's called, Do Not Support China's Huawei, Cripple It.

00:25:53.500 Instead, it was published by our friend to the Gatestone Institute.

00:25:56.780 I'm always grateful for your time because I see you on such high-profile programs around

00:26:01.160 the world.

00:26:01.940 And it's just a delight to steal you for 10 or 15 minutes for the rebel.

00:26:06.100 Thank you again, my friend.

00:26:07.160 And keep up the fight.

00:26:08.880 No, well, thank you so much, Ezra.

00:26:10.340 I really appreciate being on your show.

00:26:12.120 Right on.

00:26:12.920 Well, there you have it.

00:26:13.600 Our friend Gordon Chang, you can follow him on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang.

00:26:17.520 He's also the author of The Coming Collapse of China.

00:26:20.540 Stay with us.

00:26:21.420 More ahead.

00:26:30.620 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Chinese police patrolling the streets in 0.99

00:26:34.520 Italy.

00:26:35.440 Steve writes,

00:26:36.060 Well, I don't know if you saw my monologue the other day, that there are Chinese People's

00:26:47.880 Liberation Army legions forming in Canada, marching in Canada.

00:26:55.140 Now, they're not patrolling on the streets, but that's like five minutes from now, isn't

00:26:59.000 it?

00:27:00.140 On my interview with Peter Downing from Wexit, Alberta Maurice writes,

00:27:03.340 I'm just glad to see that someone has taken on the separatist mantle and is already actively

00:27:08.180 moving the process forward.

00:27:09.520 Hey, Peter, don't forget to take the BC interior with you when you go.

00:27:13.940 Listen, I was glad to meet Peter.

00:27:15.140 I'm glad he came on the show.

00:27:16.360 And I think he's a good egg.

00:27:17.500 I want to be very candid, though.

00:27:19.520 And I wasn't trying to grill him.

00:27:21.300 I was trying to get some answers to what the plan is.

00:27:23.940 Are you trying to fix Canada from within?

00:27:27.400 Did you want Jason Kenney to fix Canada?

00:27:29.920 Did you want Jason Kenney to leave with Alberta, leave with all the West?

00:27:34.320 I don't think those are unfair questions.

00:27:36.340 And maybe he hasn't figured out all those angles yet.

00:27:39.900 But I think those are pretty important details.

00:27:44.180 I don't know.

00:27:45.040 I can't fault the guy for jumping in to this interesting conversation, though.

00:27:53.220 On the climate letter that 11,000 so-called scientists signed, Lorraine writes,

00:27:58.420 This story about the climate and the 11,000 scientists had me really scared.

00:28:03.840 I found it hard to sleep at night.

00:28:06.380 I'm a 68-year-old woman.

00:28:08.240 I now feel a little better after listening to The Rebel.

00:28:10.920 The CBC told such a lie.

00:28:12.120 Such a lie is dangerous for people, especially children and older people.

00:28:15.820 Do you think they could be sued for putting so much fear in people?

00:28:18.700 It really had me worried.

00:28:20.940 Well, I'm very sad to receive your letter.

00:28:25.560 And, you know, I debate this stuff every day.

00:28:27.440 And my BS detector is, like, turned up to 10.

00:28:30.280 So I'm a skeptic of so many things.

00:28:32.720 And so I'm not easily persuaded by journalists, especially one of such low station as Suhana

00:28:39.220 Maharshan.

00:28:40.260 But I don't think most people are walking around as defensively as I am with regards to the

00:28:48.260 media they consume.

00:28:49.380 And like I say, this story was everywhere.

00:28:52.900 I'm sure it was on CBC Kids News, that propaganda channeling the kids.

00:28:58.120 And it causes people to be terrified.

00:29:02.780 That's what I hate about Greta Thunberg, is she is infecting other children with paranoia and 1.00

00:29:09.420 depression and, God forbid, in some cases, suicidal thought.

00:29:13.180 But, um, I mean, and you're, you say you're a 68-year-old woman.

00:29:19.240 I, I think that people of all ages are susceptible to this stress and paranoia.

00:29:24.960 For the state broadcaster to engage in it is extra gross, because we have to pay for it.

00:29:30.420 That's our show for the day.

00:29:32.240 Thanks for joining us.

00:29:33.900 Until Monday, when we'll have our Remembrance Day special.

00:29:36.900 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:29:41.400 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:29:42.460 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - November 09, 2019

Alberta's “controversial” bill to extend pro-choice protection to doctors who refuse to assist with abortions or suicide

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript