A group of teens attacked a group of Jewish kids on the streets of Toronto. Who did it? And why? Why should others go to jail when you won't give them an answer? You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior? You read a newspaper headline about a "hate crime" attack on a Jewish family, and then you don't go away? You don't mess away.
00:06:12.640How the media reacts to anti-Semitism absolutely depends on who's doing the anti-Semitism.
00:06:19.760Right now, there's a Muslim terrorist group called Hamas that is right now shooting dozens, hundreds of rockets and missiles into Israel from Gaza,
00:06:32.100deliberately aiming at civilian areas.
00:22:39.900Tell our viewers in Canada a little bit about what daily life is like when you're living really in a Jewish enclave,
00:22:46.720surrounded by a population that is at best passive, but at worst actively hoping and working for your death.
00:22:54.680First thing, I want to say that not every Arab that lives in Hebron wants to destroy the Jewish people or Israel or the Jewish community in Hebron.
00:23:01.880There are many, many decent Arabs and tolerant Arabs, but their voices are subjugated, are pushed down,
00:23:07.800because the violent folks, the extremist folks, the jihadists, their first enemy is decent and tolerant Arabs.
00:23:37.400I mean, ostensibly, we are a Semitic grouping of people.
00:23:40.420We have a similar language, similar DNA.
00:23:42.640But anyway, my point is that many Arabs that want to say that and think that way are repressed by that very same jihad that wants to destroy us.
00:23:49.520But with regard to your question, the Jews that live in Hebron are a committed sort.
00:24:07.580I think that's what the return of the Jewish people to the land of Israel and Zionism is in part also about, which is, you're not going to push me around anymore.
00:24:14.240I'm going to be able to defend myself.
00:24:16.080And there are really two kinds of minorities in the Middle East, armed and unarmed.
00:24:35.320You know, I want to go back to one thing you mentioned in passing, but it's actually quite interesting.
00:24:40.040For years, the Palestinian Arabs, some Christian, mainly Muslim, were amongst the best educated, the most economically successful Arabs in the region.
00:24:50.620But when Yasser Arafat was brought back and given his fiefdom, he eradicated the intellectual class, the critics, the professors, the free thinkers.
00:25:02.440And now Hamas is even driving out the PLO type.
00:25:06.800So you're so right that whatever little seedlings there were of hope for a democratic civil society in Palestine were wiped out first by Arafat and now by Hamas.
00:25:38.680That warrants the death penalty in the Palestinian Authority because they are a jihadist entity trying to destroy Israel.
00:25:44.340So anybody who's making any kind of separate peace or any kind of understanding with the Jews, anybody who thinks, you know what, darn it, you know, Israel is actually a good country.
00:25:53.020And it's great to live in Israel or next to Israel and benefit from its economic matrix.
00:25:57.740Anybody who thinks that way, which is the most reasonable thought, is persecuted.
00:26:01.440Now, we connected with you when we were in Israel last summer.
00:26:06.660What are you doing in North America now?
00:26:42.440So our community continues to hold on strong.
00:26:44.940So somebody has to make sure that our community is funded, its defense apparatus, its beautification apparatus.
00:26:51.720We have a lot of tourism that we bring in, but we make sure to bring people in armored buses and we make sure that there's beautiful concerts.
00:26:58.060So we do a lot to draw people in and overcome that fear factor.
00:27:02.400And we're also doing a lot in order to counter the anti-Israel narrative, which a lot of times is focused on Hebron, you know, making it out to be that our community is violent or hateful or insightful.
00:27:14.360When in fact, it's a peace-loving community that wants to exist.
00:27:17.220Yes, it wants to push back on the jihad, okay, in order to exist and to survive and to give our community its fair shake in terms of information.
00:27:28.560And the other thing is to work against actively the two-state solution, which was a bad way of thinking of the past, which is that we should give away chunks of land in the hopes of getting peace.
00:27:39.500Today in Israel, it's especially after Gaza, but after what we're seeing now in the news, Israelis are tired of the idea of giving away land and then creating a forward base for the jihad.
00:27:49.460That's not the way to move forward, we believe.
00:28:43.080I'm always telling the Israeli left there are many good issues that you should be on, environment, education, equalities, economic equalities.
00:29:32.980I went to campus, I went to university in Canada 25 years ago now.
00:29:38.680And I could see the roots of anti-Israel extremism, even though the Muslim population on campus then was much smaller.
00:29:46.860And in fact, it was largely exchange students.
00:29:49.020I remember some exchange students from Syria who really took one course just to say they were students.
00:29:56.940But full-time, they were anti-Israel agitators.
00:30:00.480And I always thought that was a bit of a trick to call yourself a student.
00:30:04.020You're really a professional, foreign-funded activist.
00:30:07.980I saw that 25 years ago when there was just a few hundred of them on campus.
00:30:11.940Now, I find that campuses across Canada, and it's just as bad in the States, and it's worse in the United Kingdom, are crucibles of anti-Israel extremism, anti-Semitism, and even pro-jihad activism.
00:30:27.100The idea of BDS, boycotting, divesting, and sanctioning Israel is now a mantra.
00:30:37.760It was a snowflake that turned into a snowball, turned into an avalanche, is what I'm saying, in the last 25 years.
00:30:42.900How do you make a dent in that in North America?
00:30:45.440Well, Ezra, I think that first thing, we have to analyze the war tactic.
00:30:50.340And there's something out there called weaponized narrative.
00:30:52.680In the absence of the ability to wipe Israel off the map militarily, with six Arab armies conjoining and trying to attack Israel in one fell swoop and get rid of it physically, that has been an abject failure.
00:31:07.960And the jihad and others of their ilk sat back down at the drawing board and were like, okay, killing the Jews in one shot doesn't work.
00:31:16.480And they've gone towards a kind of Soviet mode of delegitimization and to undermine the Israeli society and undermine support for Israeli society, for Israel around the world.
00:31:31.420And this campus movement that you're talking about, so are we ahead of the war effort of the Palestinians and the jihad?
00:31:36.880Yes, physically we're way ahead of them in terms of jets, you know, all those abilities.
00:31:42.260But in terms of the narrative war, the weaponized narrative, they're ahead of us.
00:31:45.720They were ahead of us a long time ago.
00:31:46.960They realized that the old war is not going to work.
00:31:49.760And how do we head it off for the past?
00:31:52.100Things like rebel media, okay, it rebels, it puts a fight back into it.
00:31:58.020Our fight against UNESCO, UNESCO is the legitimate arm of the jihad in that it tries to say, oh, the Jews have no rights to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, to the tomb of Rachel in Bethlehem, to the tombs of the patriarchs in Hebron.
00:32:13.260It ended in that the Trump administration left UNESCO specifically because of their anti-Hebron vote, meaning to say there was an anti-Jewish narrative, a history erasure narrative, and we, and then media organizations like yourselves.
00:32:28.260And then the Trump administration got behind and pushed back on that fake narrative, fake history.
00:32:33.240That's what the president, prime minister Netanyahu called it at the UN.
00:32:37.020So the first thing right now, I think, is for everybody to do like a shake it out, like wake up.
00:32:44.140This is the war we're fighting, the narrative war.
00:32:46.540And I say this to Jewish organizations as well that don't understand that if somebody says, you stole my land, and you say, well, but we invented the cell phone, that is not an answer.
00:32:56.660We got to have a tough answer that says we have every right to this land.
00:32:59.920We're going to push back on the jihad and be an aggressive narrative warrior instead of a passive one.