Rebel News Podcast - America is now a net oil exporter — and Quebec is one of its major customers

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today I tell you great news if you're an American, sad news if you're a Canadian. 0.82

00:00:06.720 Did you know that for four weeks in a row now, the United States has exported more crude oil

00:00:11.760 and petroleum products than they have imported? They are a net exporter, and they're only getting

00:00:17.760 started. They are our chief competitor now. They're going to sell oil to the world while

00:00:23.300 we can't even get a pipeline built. Oh, and they're selling oil to Quebec, 138,000 barrels

00:00:30.500 a day. I'll go through the details for you. Hey, before I do, please consider becoming a premium

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00:01:07.600 Tonight, America is now a net oil exporter, and Quebec is one of its major customers. It's October 24th,

00:01:23.380 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:27.020 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:30.400 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the

00:01:36.260 government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:45.780 I almost can't believe it. The United States is a net exporter of oil. When I wrote my book,

00:01:52.240 Ethical Oil, not even a decade ago, that seemed impossible. America was importing about half of

00:01:57.760 its oil needs every day. Canada was the biggest and best source, but after that and some oil from

00:02:03.800 Mexico, it was pretty much awful dictatorships all the way down. Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, just awful

00:02:11.260 places. Not only was that sending American money to those evil regimes, but it hobbled America's

00:02:18.880 political maneuverability. How can you ever get tough with Venezuela if you're buying a million barrels

00:02:25.640 of oil a day from them and, of course, sending them tens of millions of dollars a day for that

00:02:30.260 oil? How are you going to put sanctions on someone like that if that's what you wanted to do?

00:02:34.960 That's why I thought the oil stands were such a great solution to the U.S. energy problem.

00:02:39.940 Keep all that money here in North America with friends. And, of course, there are so many

00:02:43.860 American companies invested in the oil stands. It's really almost like paying themselves. Win,

00:02:48.440 win, win. But foreign-funded anti-oil lobby groups, well, they were the ones winning.

00:02:54.080 Those lobby groups included the World Wildlife Fund, whose president was Gerald Butts. You can

00:03:00.460 see the World Wildlife Fund on the list of front groups that were funded by the Rockefeller Brothers

00:03:07.180 Fund in this anti-oil sands campaign plan from 2008. This is one slide from the campaign plan.

00:03:14.340 Here's another slide. You can see their plans to block various Canadian pipelines.

00:03:19.320 And you remember the president of the World Wildlife Fund and what he had to say, right?

00:03:27.040 We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental

00:03:33.380 remediation in the first place. So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there

00:03:39.100 should be another route for a pipeline. Because the real alternative is not an alternative route,

00:03:45.960 it's an alternative economy. Well, you know how that story ends. Gerald Butts went on to become

00:03:53.320 the principal secretary to Justin Trudeau, his Rasputin-like figure. Butts also hired a bunch of

00:04:00.240 other Rockefeller Brothers Fund lobbyists from that same tar sands campaign group to be the chiefs of

00:04:07.540 staff in Canadian Energy Department, the Canadian Environment Department. So there was no need for the

00:04:13.720 Rockefeller Brothers Fund to lobby the government anymore because they staffed the government now

00:04:20.040 with Gerald Butts at the top. And thus the Northern Gateway pipeline was killed by Trudeau, even though

00:04:25.800 it had already passed environmental reviews. The Energy East pipeline was killed because Trudeau changed

00:04:33.740 the rules governing the application. He killed it. Two big pipelines. And if that wasn't enough,

00:04:38.560 Bill C-48 banned tanker traffic off the coast of BC just for another layer of the blockade. But only

00:04:45.780 off the West Coast. Saudi oil tankers are still welcome to arrive on the East Coast sail right off

00:04:50.540 the St. Lawrence Seaway, right into Montreal. Oh, and any new oil sands facilities themselves must now pass

00:04:56.940 the gender tests in Bill C-69. So yeah, that's us in Canada. We elected a blackface, 1.00

00:05:05.680 drama teacher Groper as prime minister, and he handed over the keys to the American funded anti-oil sands

00:05:11.760 lobbyists. And it's still going. Get this, yesterday, Justin Trudeau pretended to be in listening mode

00:05:18.060 towards Alberta and Saskatchewan.

00:05:19.900 Why do you think that your party got totally wiped out in Alberta and Saskatchewan in this election?

00:05:25.340 I think there's a lot of thinking to do on that and a lot of listening to Albertans, as I have

00:05:33.140 endeavoured to do over the past number of years. But obviously, I'm going to have to do a lot more

00:05:37.120 to ensure that not, you know, why did this happen is not the central issue we have. The central issue

00:05:45.200 for me is, how do we move forward in a way that responds to the concerns that Albertans and

00:05:51.440 Saskatchewanians have clearly expressed?

00:05:57.180 Yeah, did you actually believe that? Here's what Trudeau's star candidate, his star MP

00:06:03.200 in Quebec, Stephen Gilbeau, tweeted today, a day after those crocodile tears. He says,

00:06:09.220 May I remind Premier Scott Moe of Saskatchewan that 70% of Canadians just voted for parties

00:06:14.880 that support carbon pricing. Oh, and by the way, you lost twice in the courts. Moe calls for Prime

00:06:21.620 Minister Justin Trudeau to cancel the federal carbon tax. In your face, Saskatchewan.

00:06:28.260 So I guess we know who's in charge of winning over Alberta and Saskatchewan in the new liberal

00:06:32.780 government. By the way, I've read the Bloc Québécois support for carbon pricing. I read their

00:06:38.520 policy platform. They actually use a different phrase in carbon tax. Do you see it at the top

00:06:43.960 there? Père question verte. That means green equalization. Now, I've read this in my weak

00:06:51.840 French, and then I translated it into English. And the Bloc Québécois, which is now the third

00:06:58.740 largest party in Parliament, they do believe that there should be a carbon tax. They sure do,

00:07:04.480 you bet. But only on other provinces. They say only above average emission provinces like Alberta

00:07:11.320 and Saskatchewan should pay the carbon tax, and the rest of the money should go to Quebec in green

00:07:17.400 equalization. I'm serious. So yeah, they support a carbon tax, but only on the West. And they want

00:07:24.680 all the revenue too. I'm not even kidding. You can check it out yourself. So that's us up here in

00:07:29.140 Canada. That's what became of our great opportunity. How about the United States? Well, here's a hint

00:07:35.940 of how their leader treats their oil and gas workers. Here he is talking in Pittsburgh, talking

00:07:41.780 to their booming fracking industry, which is primarily natural gas. It's created 200,000 jobs.

00:07:49.660 Huge source of natural gas. Take a look. American energy belongs to hardworking men and women like you

00:07:56.000 who get up every day and make this country run.

00:08:06.220 Today, I'm proud to declare that I've delivered on every single promise I made

00:08:10.960 to this conference three years ago and much, much more. Everyone.

00:08:17.240 Yeah, what a difference. It saved that state of Pennsylvania, by the way.

00:08:21.960 They were shutting down coal and steel. It was looking like a disaster. It was like right out

00:08:27.980 of one of those sad Springsteen songs about shutting down the old mill. But then fracking

00:08:34.020 and natural gas came right in the nick of time. 200,000 jobs in Pennsylvania alone. And by the

00:08:42.340 way, lower natural gas prices for everyone in the state too, which also means lower electricity

00:08:48.140 prices since their power plants use natural gas. I'm a bit jealous, aren't you? They're literally

00:08:54.600 building new factories in Pennsylvania. I've seen it with my own eyes. And factories are actually coming

00:09:00.260 home to America from foreign countries in part because the energy is so cheap.

00:09:08.400 But look at this. Look at this news here.

00:09:10.240 This is from an analyst in the Department of Energy.

00:09:15.340 For the first time ever, the U.S. became a net total petroleum exporter on a four-week average basis.

00:09:22.320 In the week ending October 18th, the era of U.S. net petroleum exports has begun,

00:09:29.480 or at least is highly likely to. And do you see that chart there?

00:09:32.820 What it means is that the U.S. didn't just have one special day where it exported more oil than it

00:09:40.040 imported. That's now normal now. That's happened four weeks in a row now. The United States, far

00:09:47.980 from importing half its oil as it did when I wrote Ethical Oil a few years back, it's now sending out

00:09:53.960 oil into the world on a net basis. As in, yeah, sure, it still imports some oil, especially from Canada.

00:10:00.180 I mean, wouldn't you? Because we have no pipelines to the sea, so we can't sell our oil to anyone else

00:10:06.160 except for the Americans. So that's called a monopsony when there's only one customer.

00:10:12.480 We have to sell our oil at a massive discount to world prices, sometimes as much as $35 a barrel,

00:10:19.500 less than the world price. So we sell oil to the United States at below world prices,

00:10:25.760 and they sell their oil to the world at world prices. They're smart. We're dumb. In fact,

00:10:33.000 and this is so incredible, we actually buy their oil at world prices. More of it all the time.

00:10:41.180 Look at this chart by the U.S. Department of Energy also. That's U.S. exports to Canada.

00:10:47.480 To Canada. To Canada. How is it possible that that's growing with the advent of our oil sands?

00:10:55.320 The oil sands really kicked into high gear around 2004. And I'd say they were sort of at maximum

00:11:01.680 velocity 10 years later, 2014. Can you put that chart up just for another second? But the pipelines

00:11:07.960 were delayed and delayed and delayed and banned and blocked. And look at that. Record oil imports

00:11:15.720 from America to Canada. While U.S. fracked oil got stronger and stronger and stronger. And they

00:11:24.080 took advantage of the market. Now they ship their oil up here by train primarily. That's what blew up

00:11:31.400 in Lac-Mégantic, Quebec. Look at those oil cars. There's a train full of fracked oil coming into Quebec

00:11:38.120 from the United States. I got nothing against America. I got nothing against trains. And I got

00:11:42.160 nothing against fracking. I love all three. I'm just telling you what it was that blew up.

00:11:47.400 I've never heard of a pipeline blowing up and certainly not in the middle of a city.

00:11:51.800 Hey, but that's Quebec's choice. They prefer American oil to Alberta oil. They're the biggest

00:11:59.040 importers of foreign oil in our country, by the way. Here's a report from Canada's energy regulator.

00:12:06.540 Scroll down a bit. You can see we import most of our oil imports from America. That's the dark blue.

00:12:15.040 But Saudi Arabia is next. That's the light blue. And then that orange is Azerbaijan, 0.95

00:12:21.380 if you can believe it. Can you imagine that Canada, with the third largest reserves in the world,

00:12:27.640 the oil sands, is importing any oil from Saudi Arabia and Azerbaijan? Can you find it on a map?

00:12:33.380 Do you know where Azerbaijan is? It's that obscure country. It's landlocked to the world. It's on the

00:12:41.400 Caspian Sea, but that's not part of the oceans. The Caspian Sea is actually a lake. It's a big salty

00:12:48.820 lake, but it's landlocked. How on earth is it easier and cheaper? And how does it even happen that oil

00:12:56.900 gets from Azerbaijan to the ocean? Well, because Quebec politicians and Ottawa politicians hate

00:13:16.980 Alberta oil, they don't hate oil. They don't hate oil. Just Alberta oil. Scroll down a little bit more

00:13:25.240 on that same chart. Scroll down to the importers of oil by province. Now, New Brunswick actually

00:13:33.380 imports the most, but just to the refinery. They then disperse that oil to the rest of the country.

00:13:40.880 That bar chart shows the total foreign oil imports by province. So you can see New Brunswick. That's

00:13:48.220 where the Irving refinery is. They love their Saudi oil and their Azeri oil. That's what you call oil

00:13:55.940 from Azerbaijan. Can't get enough of the stuff. The gray bars is the foreign stuff. The blue is U.S. oil.

00:14:02.820 Quebec is the biggest importer of U.S. oil. See that? 138,000 barrels a day, the dark blue. That's up

00:14:13.560 from 108,000 barrels a day the year earlier. They can't get enough of that Donald Trump oil. They

00:14:19.760 love American oil. And they love their Saudi oil too. Isn't that funny? The province that brought in

00:14:25.900 Bill 21, the province that's banning niqabs in the public service, they're buying Sharia oil from 1.00

00:14:31.700 Saudis and Azeris, as well as their Trump oil. Not Alberta. I mean, and America is not importing

00:14:45.360 Saudi oil that much. They still do import some foreign oil, including from us in Canada. Like I say,

00:14:54.480 they buy our Canadian oil at a discount and sell it right back to us at full price. They're not dumb,

00:14:59.920 but they're now competing against us for oil and exports around the world. I showed you a clip of

00:15:05.640 Trump in Pennsylvania. Look at this from the New York Times. Look what he's doing in Texas.

00:15:13.960 And look at this map in the Wall Street Journal. Look at the pipelines they're building in Texas.

00:15:19.200 Where are those pipelines going? They're going to the sea. They're going to the sea. They're exporting.

00:15:26.580 They're pumping as much oil in Texas as they are in Alberta now. You don't take oil to the sea if

00:15:34.240 you're planning to bring it to California or New York. That is oil that will be put on a tanker ship

00:15:39.380 and will go to Europe or India or Japan or maybe even China, wherever.

00:15:48.060 They'll be there first with their oil exports, just like they'll be there first with their fracked 0.98

00:15:52.320 natural gas, LNG, liquefied natural gas, while we're busy shutting it all down in Canada.

00:16:00.580 You know, you see sometimes some conspiracy theory shows on TV, who killed the Avro Aero?

00:16:07.380 That was going to be the Canadian fighter jet that would dominate the world. Or who killed the electric 0.55

00:16:13.060 car? Well, probably nobody did. We've got Teslas and they don't really work that great. But both of

00:16:20.180 those questions are rooted in head-scratchers. Why aren't these great ideas happening, right?

00:16:26.380 Probably good reasons for both. I'm not an expert, but I think I'm almost an expert on oil and pipelines

00:16:32.520 and politics. And I know this. The world used more oil today than it did last year.

00:16:39.140 And it's going to use more oil next year than it did today. And that's going to keep going for the

00:16:45.920 foreseeable future as China and India buy their cars. America is who's going to produce it and ship

00:16:53.460 it and get rich off it. While our blackface groper and his virtue signalers carbon tax our own oil 1.00

00:17:03.860 industry to death. Gee, why on earth would Alberta separatism be flourishing? Stay with us for more. 0.91

00:17:24.220 Welcome back. Well, deplatforming is the new approach of the left. They don't really believe in debating.

00:17:30.640 That's too hard. And, you know, you might not win a debate. So why not ban the other side from even

00:17:36.940 speaking? De-normalize them. De-platform them. Shut them up. Remove them from the Overton window of

00:17:45.720 possible ideas. Well, amazingly, that has come to the Toronto Public Libraries. And the Toronto Public

00:17:55.860 Libraries have stood for free speech. Now, 10 years ago, that would have been so obvious. But these

00:18:01.280 days, it's very refreshing. And here to tell us about the case that has put the Toronto Public Library

00:18:07.080 on the front lines of political free expression is our friend Barbara Kaye, who has a column about the

00:18:12.260 subject in today's National Post. Barbara, great to see you again on this very important subject.

00:18:17.300 Yes, thanks for having me, Ezra. It is an important subject for sure.

00:18:20.420 Well, I really enjoyed your article. Let me read the title and encourage our viewers to check it out.

00:18:24.980 It's called How Feminist Megan Murphy Fell Victim to Progressive's Double Standards. And that's the

00:18:33.840 thing. She is a pretty hardline feminist. I mean, not someone that I would normally see eye to eye with, 1.00

00:18:41.380 and I don't honestly think you would either if I know you. But the fact that she is now the one being

00:18:48.100 shot up by radical trans activists, I tell you, this free speech thing is very interesting.

00:18:54.980 It sure is. And I agree with you. Yes, I am totally on her side. But people like you and me would

00:19:00.960 normally not be, we would be have very different views. And I think this is maybe the only thing I

00:19:05.860 agree with her on. But I agree with her 500% on this one. And the fact that she is being

00:19:11.500 marginalized and made to feel like an enemy of the people for holding a view that is pure common

00:19:18.720 sense, is really quite scandalous.

00:19:22.620 Why don't you tell our viewers a little bit about her view? She's a feminist in the literal meaning 1.00

00:19:28.120 of the world. She's for women. And she objects to the biological fiction that a man who gets his 1.00

00:19:37.580 twig and berries removed and takes some hormones becomes a woman thereby. So she is what is called a 1.00

00:19:45.040 TERF by the trans radicals, a trans exclusionary radical feminist. That's just a fancy way of 1.00

00:19:53.500 saying a woman who believes that women are women and men aren't women, even if they say they're

00:19:58.860 women. For that, she's been thrown in the dust pile of political incorrectness. 1.00

00:20:03.940 Exactly. I'm told that, well, I've been told before that TERFs, the word, the acronym TERF is

00:20:10.460 considered derogatory. And what we're supposed to call people like Megan Murphy are gender crits. 1.00

00:20:17.420 So, okay, fair enough. She's a gender crit. And I'm a gender crit too. So what she's saying is

00:20:26.260 that definitions are important. And you can't define, you can't take the word woman and say that it means 0.98

00:20:34.060 a person with a vagina, also a person with a penis, if the person with a penis thinks that he is a 0.87

00:20:42.460 woman or wants to be a woman or would like to live his life as a woman. You know, if he has gender 0.58

00:20:49.380 dysphoria, that's a real thing. He's a trans woman then in that case, and then it's she. Trans women 0.89

00:20:56.580 are real. Most trans women live their lives in perfect harmony with everyone else. They are not 1.00

00:21:03.080 political. They are not trying to edge out females, actual females from their safe spaces. But the

00:21:11.920 trans activists are trying to run, take the definition and they have been successful in

00:21:18.980 implanting it into the culture to mean anybody who identifies a woman, not only presents as a woman,

00:21:25.140 but is literally a woman, which literally they cannot be. And all she's doing is saying,

00:21:31.660 you can't be something that you're literally not according to your DNA. And the reason she's so

00:21:40.740 adamant is because if the culture and if our elites and if our politicians and legislators say that that

00:21:47.920 is the case, that anybody who identifies as a woman is a woman, then there's consequences that flow from

00:21:53.500 that. Legal consequences and social consequences that flow from that. And it takes, it makes formerly

00:21:59.660 sex specific spaces like locker rooms and prisons, rape shelters and athletic categories. It opens them

00:22:08.880 up to male bodies with a mental idea that they are women. And it is, she is not transphobic. She is

00:22:18.420 defending female rights, women's rights. And I'm with her because I don't want to be in a locker room 0.81

00:22:25.540 with a male body. And I don't want my daughter, who's a great athlete to be up against, you know, 1.00

00:22:33.280 a six foot two, 200 pound athlete who thinks or wants to be a woman so that they can participate in 1.00

00:22:42.900 women's sports. So she's standing up for all the right things. I'm with her. Oh, so this library

00:22:48.160 thing is, she's supposed to be in a panel discussion October 29th at a branch of the Toronto

00:22:53.040 library. And of course, many people are protesting. There's women raiders that are protesting. There's

00:22:58.760 trans activists that are protesting. The union, the library union is not comfortable. They're

00:23:03.680 protesting and pride. Pride is protesting because they'll have to rethink their relationship with

00:23:09.820 the library if, if this terrible woman is allowed to give her opinion on gender in this panel discussion. 1.00

00:23:17.420 So that's the background of all the kerfuffle around Megan Murphy this time. Yeah, about five 0.91

00:23:23.500 minutes ago, historically speaking, Megan Murphy would have been the toast of the town, a young 1.00

00:23:28.180 feminist woman, you know, doing it for herself. But now she's being thrown aside because there's 1.00

00:23:33.880 something, you know, in the game of politically correct poker, there's a higher hand that was just

00:23:38.820 played. And it's, it's not, it's shocking, but it is not surprising that the library union wants to

00:23:45.800 silence her. I've recently lived through a little bit of that when the movie theaters, the art house

00:23:51.380 movie theaters in Calgary and Edmonton, who signed a contract to have a book launch with me, ripped up

00:23:57.080 that contract under pressure from their own staff as well. It is no longer surprising to de-platforming.

00:24:02.160 What is so surprising and encouraging is how firm the head librarian is. But let me first show you,

00:24:09.220 Barbara, and I'm not sure you've seen this. The mayor of Toronto, John Tory, a more spineless man

00:24:15.760 one could not find. Listen to him being asked about this case. Here's a video clip of him a few days ago.

00:24:24.940 And so the library has its own policy with respect to when people should and should not be able to

00:24:30.440 rent rooms on their premises. They have taken the decision in this case that this particular person

00:24:35.440 should be able to give their talk in a library building. I don't think it's appropriate for

00:24:40.340 politicians to substitute their judgment for actually making these decisions because we have

00:24:44.460 a duly appointed library board and we have library management who oversee a written policy in this

00:24:49.040 regard. I simply indicated I was disappointed in that decision. My office asked the library to

00:24:54.320 reconsider the decision. They indicated that they had carefully studied it and were not going to

00:24:58.880 reconsider it. Barbara, he just said, oh, it's not appropriate for politicians to meddle. And then

00:25:05.820 he said, oh, but I tried to meddle and she pushed me aside. What a terrible, terrible man he is.

00:25:12.380 That's bad. That's bad. Yeah. Since when does the mayor keep a list of what you can and can't say

00:25:18.240 in a public place? Does the mayor also have a list of books that he doesn't want in the library?

00:25:24.260 Does the mayor have a list of ideas that are or aren't acceptable to him? It's so gross that every

00:25:31.280 jumped up bureaucrat and low level politician, I'm sorry, the mayor of Toronto. Yeah, he's a mayor of

00:25:36.820 2.5 million people, but he's one of dozens on council. And frankly, in the scheme of things, he's a bit

00:25:41.820 of a nothing. For him to accrete unto himself the power of being censor in chief of all cultural debates

00:25:48.800 is a little bit gross and a little bit jumped up. Yeah, he's just look, he just wants to gain points

00:25:54.680 with the purity crats, you know, of the city and really the competition to be the purest,

00:26:03.500 most politically correct, the most with it politician is really pretty pathetic. And he had no business

00:26:11.880 getting involved with that and all. And as I pointed out in my column, oh, so John Tory, where

00:26:16.760 were you when the Toronto Reference Library hosted Max Blumenthal, which won't be a name that is

00:26:22.860 familiar to most of your viewers, perhaps, but this is a so-called journalist whose main thing in life

00:26:30.460 is to vilify Israel night and day and to call them Nazis and to say that every day for the Palestinians 0.86

00:26:39.300 is worse than Kristallnacht. And he's so odious, he's so disgusting that the European, the German 1.00

00:26:46.460 parliament barred him from taking part. They actually deplatformed him because they consider

00:26:52.860 him an anti-Semite. And of course, even though he's Jewish, he is an anti-Semite. They're the worst

00:26:57.520 kind, of course. Anyways, but John Tory didn't peep. He didn't make a peep then. And of course,

00:27:03.800 when I called the program director of the Toronto Reference Library, it was all about free speech,

00:27:07.980 free speech. I said, well, what about a debate between somebody, you know, who has responsible

00:27:13.240 views? Well, you know, free speech, free speech. So the only people that protested were a few Jews 0.99

00:27:18.780 and nobody else. And it went on as scheduled. It never made the news even. I mean, that it was

00:27:25.360 controversial. You know, the double standards are really pretty sickening. This gender issue 1.00

00:27:34.660 issue has just taken over our universe. And it's the only thing people want to be in on. And it's

00:27:43.280 such an incredible trend. Yeah. You know, it's funny, you made me think of, again, I'm sorry to

00:27:48.480 refer to it, but the deplatforming and libraries. It made me think of the other week when I was in

00:27:53.460 Calgary and for a book launch. And we were kicked out of the theater or not allowed in the theater that

00:28:00.720 we had a signed contract with. There was an independent bookstore literally next door. It's

00:28:07.100 called Page's Bookstore in Kensington. Two-story, huge bookstore. I can't understand how they're still

00:28:12.480 in business with Chapters and Amazon as their competitors. It was 100% empty. There was no one

00:28:18.820 in the entire store except for three staff. And we said to them, we'll give you all the profits from

00:28:25.540 the book sales. Just let us have the book signing in your office. So that would have meant thousands

00:28:31.400 of dollars in basically free money for them. And they said, no. I asked them. I went in there.

00:28:37.260 I said, do you sell Mein Kampf, Hitler's book? And they said, yes, we do. And I said, well, you should.

00:28:43.780 It's a historical work. We should know about it. We should understand it. We should read it. I mean,

00:28:48.720 I don't think it should be like a Bible for people, but we should understand why it's,

00:28:52.660 we should understand what it is. They would sell Mein Kampf, but they wouldn't sell my book.

00:28:59.860 That's where we are today. But let me show you one more thing. And I don't need to show you it. I

00:29:05.120 learned about this from reading your column. The head librarian, and her name is Vickery Bowles.

00:29:13.300 She has been so admirable on this. She's held the line. And you, I didn't know this because I don't

00:29:20.960 listen to the CBC. She was interviewed by Carol Off, an old communist battle axe of the CBC.

00:29:28.000 And I've dealt with Carol Off a few times over the half century I've been around.

00:29:34.100 And she's so woke and she's so feminist, but I guess she's found something more fun than being a 1.00

00:29:39.420 feminist. And it's being an anti-feminist on behalf of trans extremists. Let me play for you a couple of 0.97

00:29:46.820 clips from that interview. And I'd like your thoughts on it, Barbara. So here's the first

00:29:52.740 exchange. This is Carol Off, a Marxist interviewer at the CBC, and Vickery Bowles, the librarian who is

00:30:00.720 standing for free speech in Toronto. Take a look.

00:30:02.860 There are limits to free speech. I'm sure you know that. And when free speech is hurtful or harmful to

00:30:07.660 others, it is something that is shutting down the free speech of others. I'm sure you've heard that

00:30:13.220 argument before. Yes, I have. And you don't agree, obviously. No, I don't. I think that free speech

00:30:19.740 is important, especially when marginalized groups are being, people are trying to shut down marginalized

00:30:27.700 groups. The marginalized groups being those who would deny the rights of those trans people who

00:30:33.020 are feeling this is hurtful. So what about those minority rights? What consideration are you giving

00:30:40.220 to those minority rights? Well, we're giving everyone consideration in this situation. And

00:30:46.940 we've strongly value our relationship with all members of our communities here in Toronto and

00:30:53.040 elsewhere. But we have to, you know, if public institutions aren't going to stand up for free

00:30:59.080 speech and allow civil discourse to happen, then I don't know when, where that is going to happen.

00:31:06.200 There were so many strange things said by Carol Off that if Megan Murphy is allowed to speak, that

00:31:15.120 shuts down the speech of others. I don't even, that wasn't even supported. That was just stupid. That was

00:31:21.840 just stupid. But, you know, what the point of, it was quite a, you know, it was a fairly lengthy

00:31:26.760 interview and Carol Off was relentless. Like every single question, it wasn't a question, it was a

00:31:32.760 statement with a question at the end, a question mark at the end. She, I've never seen an interview

00:31:38.720 so obviously biased and so obviously meant to put the interviewee totally on the defense of totally

00:31:46.540 uncomfortable and not give them an opportunity really, or to imply in their own questions that the

00:31:56.020 person that they are interviewing is, is kind of not only wrong, but a bad person. And, you know,

00:32:04.660 as journalism goes, that was to me scandalous.

00:32:08.400 Well, we have one more clip from, actually we've got a bunch of clips, but I mean, you're right.

00:32:11.540 The whole thing was that battering ram. That's why it was doubly impressive that this Vickery

00:32:16.300 Bowles just held the line. I mean, it's just bizarre to say by giving Megan Murphy the right to rent a room

00:32:23.800 and say something in that room that denies rights to others. That just, there's just no connection

00:32:30.840 there. It's just saying words and Vickery Bowles wasn't having any of it. Here's another excerpt from

00:32:37.200 that radio debate. Take a listen. Sometimes what we call free speech is hurtful speech and we have

00:32:42.620 situation, as you know, that the numbers are that about 20% of trans people have been physically or

00:32:48.680 sexually assaulted due to their identity. I even more have been verbally threatened or harassed.

00:32:54.240 So how do you safeguard their, them physically and their rights if you feel that it's, it's within

00:33:00.980 others' rights to express, express ideas that deny those people their rights that actually

00:33:08.160 go the distance of making them feel more isolated?

00:33:11.840 Well, I am committed and the library is committed to offering safe and welcoming space

00:33:17.300 for everyone, including members of the trans community. And we are aware that the, you know,

00:33:23.540 the upcoming room rental has caused anger and concern and hurt among members of the trans

00:33:29.000 community and others. But as a public library and as a public institution, we have an obligation

00:33:35.700 to stand up for our democratic values and principles.

00:33:40.000 Again, this absurd, baseless, uncorroborated aspersion that there's a good chance of violence.

00:33:47.860 That's, that's practically defamatory of Megan Murphy.

00:33:50.800 Oh yeah.

00:33:51.420 Just absurd, but good for Vickery Bowles for just like, she's no Andrew Scheer. You're not going

00:33:58.480 to wear her down in 90 seconds and getting her to collapse as Andrew Scheer did in basically

00:34:04.020 every tough interview he ever gave. He just, he said, fine. He would just, to avoid the

00:34:08.740 discomfort of a, of a short-term interview, he would just collapse. I don't know where

00:34:13.740 this Vickery Bowles came from. I frankly never heard of her before this, but she was unmoved.

00:34:18.960 Yes. Yes. She was strong. She was strong and she kept her cool. Um, I was very impressed

00:34:25.020 with her.

00:34:25.960 And the, and the thing is when she said that she heard complaints from the trans community,

00:34:30.500 I'm sure she did. And I'm sure she was sympathetic. By the way, being for freedom of speech doesn't

00:34:36.400 mean you're not aware that some free speech inflicts some hurt feelings. Uh, it doesn't

00:34:42.620 mean you have a heart of ice. It just means you've made the decision that allowing free

00:34:47.960 speech is a higher societal value than being a bubble wrap blanket around everyone with

00:34:55.720 a thin skin. Sure. Well, listen, uh, when you can only see the, uh, the offense given to

00:35:02.460 one group, even though another group may be offended by that other group when they speak,

00:35:10.200 I mean, you know, we have a conflict of what people think are rights here. And, and it's

00:35:17.220 in this issue, uh, it hasn't been sorted out very well by our legislatures because they have

00:35:23.980 not taken the trouble to inquire into the definition of the word woman. So, uh, it was

00:35:31.180 very natural and very inevitable, uh, that all of these, this confusion would flow. Uh, but

00:35:37.680 the people on one side of this debate are taking the line that only trans people have rights that

00:35:46.260 have to be respected, uh, even if they impinge on the natural rights of women. And they just, 0.98

00:35:53.560 they won't agree that there's anybody else that has rights, uh, in this, you know, or, uh, interests

00:35:59.800 in this, in this issue. And that's terrible. Yeah. Well, listen, I have a question for you. I saw on

00:36:06.480 Twitter that you are giving a talk in my old hometown of Calgary, along with Kaylin Ford and

00:36:12.540 Lindsay Shepard, two young women who have been deplatformed in the past. Um, can you give us a few

00:36:19.120 details about that? When is that? We have a lot of viewers in Calgary, some might want to go.

00:36:23.140 And I must tell you that I am, uh, pessimistic and I am, uh, once bitten, twice shy, as they say,

00:36:33.580 when it comes to deplatforming. And I'm actually a little bit worried that you're going to be talking

00:36:37.420 about deplatforming, that you yourself might be deplatformed at the talk about deplatforming.

00:36:42.080 Well, I guess that's a risk we have to take. Um, I, uh, the event is on November 14th.

00:36:50.200 It's, uh, 6 30 PM. And I'm sorry, I can't remember the name. I believe it's at a tavern.

00:36:56.080 So perhaps these are people who are sympathetic and who are not going to be railroaded by

00:37:01.980 protesters or activists. Uh, I would hope so. I, I wouldn't want to get out there and

00:37:08.660 find out that the event had been canceled. It's going to be, I think, a lively event. I,

00:37:13.420 these are two young women who are dynamite. Uh, both Kaylin and Lindsay are young women. I admire 0.73

00:37:18.380 greatly. And we're going to talk about cancel culture, exactly the kind of thing we've just

00:37:23.280 been discussing. Uh, and we'll be bringing other, uh, examples in perhaps, uh, we'll bring in

00:37:29.120 Ezra LeVant's book, uh, signing. Well, I, uh, I, uh, I'd love to go, but I certainly don't want to

00:37:36.280 step on, uh, uh, your toes. You, you have a real theme going on there. And I think I

00:37:41.480 would just be a happy observer in the audience, happy to buy a ticket. I think we might send

00:37:45.700 a reporter, uh, to report on the event and God forbid, if there was an attempt to shutter

00:37:51.540 it. Um, I should tell you that the theater in Calgary and Edmonton, they both canceled

00:37:55.780 on us, even though we had a signed contract. And in the end, only literally one crank showed

00:38:01.620 up to protest each event, whereas hundreds of ticket buyers showed up. I'm, I'm a little

00:38:06.600 nervous. God forbid it happens. I hope we can talk again because my new approach and

00:38:11.480 forgive me for bringing this into an interview about your great op-ed. My new approach is

00:38:16.680 sue people for inducing a breach of contract. So if someone, if you have a contract with this

00:38:24.000 pub and it sounds like you do, and someone bullies them, pressures them, threatens them,

00:38:28.320 interferes with them to cause them to breach it with you, it's well settled law going back

00:38:34.520 more than a century that you have a cause of action against the threateners, the bullies.

00:38:40.380 And I, it's strange to think of your event as like a, like a bear trap or, or like fly paper

00:38:46.340 that would attract these malicious bullies to catch them. But I think either way, it's win-win.

00:38:53.520 If your event goes ahead, that's a great conversation that the world should hear.

00:38:57.420 God forbid, if your event is canceled, well, you've caught some bullies and let them have

00:39:02.220 them go before a judge and explain why they think in a free country, they can bully a bar

00:39:06.760 into canceling an event. And I'm getting off topic, but I'm really nervous for you. I got

00:39:10.560 to tell you, Barbara, I know the world we're in these days and they don't believe in debate

00:39:14.540 anymore. They believe in silencing people.

00:39:17.040 I do know that. Well, I'm going to assume, uh, this, uh, you know, Kaylin is organizing it

00:39:21.700 and she's a political person who's, who's quite savvy. So I assume, uh, she's arranging

00:39:27.300 appropriate security. Although I can't imagine, uh, that there would be a need for it. Although

00:39:34.800 people will say there's a need.

00:39:36.700 Oh, it's not the security. Yeah. My point about there only being one cranky protester is just

00:39:40.540 that, that none of these internet bullies actually show up. They just hop and puff, send an email,

00:39:46.040 send a tweet, but that's terrifying to a bar owner who's never had a critical word spoken to them

00:39:51.140 their whole lives. Sure. Yes, you're, you're absolutely right. Well, uh, I won't be looking

00:39:56.340 after that end of things. I, I imagine that, uh, uh, those who are organizing it are extremely,

00:40:01.980 uh, au courant with, uh, how people operate on social media and what, what are real threats and

00:40:08.060 what aren't. Uh, so I'll leave it to them to, uh, to do the smart thing. Fair enough. Listen,

00:40:12.320 I didn't mean to, to, uh, of course, but it's very relevant. I mean, uh, what I'm writing about

00:40:17.700 today, what I, what I had in my column today, uh, is absolutely relevant. And I'm sure obviously

00:40:22.820 as one of my examples that I'll be giving, uh, you know, Murphy's, uh, this particular protest is

00:40:29.700 one that I'll be using as an example for sure. So, well, uh, hopefully the venue owner will be as

00:40:35.680 courageous as Vickery Bowles was. And hopefully the mayor of that city won't be as foolish as

00:40:42.200 Toronto's is, but even. I don't know. He sometimes is a little foolish. I know. I know. He was my

00:40:46.860 debate partner way back in, uh, university for two years. Nahid Nenshi and I were debate partners.

00:40:52.640 So really? Yes. And we won the national debates two years running. Wow. And I would like to think

00:40:58.900 that based on that rambunctious experience, he has a little bit of free speech left in his bloodstream

00:41:04.620 because we certainly were troublemakers back in our youth. Uh, I've heard Nahid Nenshi weigh in on just

00:41:10.760 about every other subject under the sun. I haven't heard him on free speech. I hope he hasn't gone

00:41:15.000 woke left censor in his middle age, but I, I fear for the worst. Barbara, I won't keep you another

00:41:20.580 minute, but thank you for this. Let me one more time, read the headline of your column and invite

00:41:25.080 all our people to read it. It's called how feminist Megan Murphy fell victim to progressives,

00:41:30.360 double standards. And it's written of course, by our friend Barbara Kay in the national post.

00:41:35.760 Good luck, my friend. And, uh, you know what? I'm going to try and be there at your Calgary

00:41:39.440 event just to, to see how it goes. And I'm interested in all three of you speakers.

00:41:43.360 That would be so cool. All right. Take care. There you go. Our good friend, Barbara Kay,

00:41:48.480 a real freedom fighter, willing to talk about subjects that most journalists are just too

00:41:53.100 afraid to do. Stay with us more ahead on the rebel.

00:41:56.020 On my monologue yesterday about a Democrat in Massachusetts trying to ban the word

00:42:09.080 bitch, Debra writes, 1.00

00:42:11.440 maybe these sensitive souls need to grow up and stop trying to tell others what they can

00:42:15.100 and can't say. What an insane world we're living in.

00:42:17.860 It's such a quirky thing. I mean, banning any word is really weird. Like, you know, you've heard of

00:42:25.340 the Streisand effect. Have you heard of that? Barbara Streisand has this, um, house on, on Malibu, 0.87

00:42:31.680 right on the sea. Gorgeous house. And like every house in America, there's some aerial photo of it.

00:42:38.680 Look at Google maps, right? And someone took pictures of houses on Malibu. And one of the houses was

00:42:44.820 Barbara Streisand's. And it was no big deal. No one was clicking on it until she sued to get that photo

00:42:52.080 banned. And then all of a sudden, everyone was extremely curious about her house. They hadn't been

00:42:58.680 until she sued. In fact, evidence was almost no one looked at the photo other than Barbara Streisand

00:43:06.180 and her lawyer. But after she sued, everyone wanted to see what's Barbara Streisand's house all about. 0.95

00:43:11.680 Same thing with banning a word. What's the word that's banned? I want to know. Oh, I want to say

00:43:20.000 it now. It's so weird. And the bill, I read you the title of it yesterday. It was about banning words

00:43:26.760 plural, but he just wants to ban this one word. I mean, there are far worse words out there than

00:43:33.460 bitch. I, you know, it's, it's not a great word if you use it in a negative meaning. There's also a 0.82

00:43:39.480 scientific, biological, it's a female dog. That's legit meaning of the word. It's so weird that he

00:43:46.880 chose that word to ban. I think he's a weirdo. I think he's trying to like preempt some me too

00:43:53.700 thing or something. Maybe he's a male feminist. Is he trying to impress a girlfriend or something?

00:43:57.800 Oh, I agree with you, honey. The word bitch is so bad. I'll get a ban. Where, what? I just don't 0.99

00:44:05.620 didn't get him. Joe writes, the disturbing thing about all this is that an elected representative

00:44:11.280 in Massachusetts, the cradle of liberty and the American revolution would actually try to repeal

00:44:15.520 the first amendment. Yeah. I mean, it's weird. I mean, that's the thing that, you know, that the

00:44:20.780 Liberty Bell and all those America, it's the Boston Tea Party. I mean, it's, there really is. It's true. 0.94

00:44:26.820 Massachusetts, it is the place for so many American values to root.

00:44:32.560 But as I said yesterday, that's a universal story across the West, isn't it? I mean, how

00:44:38.320 it's not much stranger than the fact that in the United Kingdom, the home of the Magna

00:44:42.640 Carta and John Milton, they're banning things and Canada too.

00:44:48.400 On my interview with Derek Fildebrandt, Karen writes,

00:44:51.560 I think I like the Western Standard. I'll pop on by online and see what trouble I can cause

00:44:56.100 in the comment section. Yeah. I mean, I, um, I really enjoyed running that magazine when it

00:45:02.180 was a print magazine more than a dozen years ago. And, uh, it was really fun. And when I was looking

00:45:08.880 through those old issues yesterday, the number one thing that struck me was how that was in the

00:45:13.660 age before de-platforming. We had mainstream people writing for us. Even Andrew Coyne wrote for us once,

00:45:21.080 if you can believe it. We had mainstream advertisers. We had, uh,

00:45:26.180 Air Canada. How much more mainstream does it come than that? I can't remember all the advertisers,

00:45:33.240 but it was just a different time. And if you had a different opinion, people would say, oh yeah,

00:45:37.100 different opinion, but we got to have that market. And we got, but everyone's a customer and we're

00:45:41.840 all Canadians. It's all part of a debate. And those days are completely gone. Not only are corporations so

00:45:48.020 absolutely scared of their own shadow now, but there are these roving mobs of fanatical censors.

00:45:56.760 Maybe that's the thing. Maybe back a dozen years ago without Twitter and Facebook, there wasn't a way

00:46:03.880 for these virtual mobs to assemble. So you'd actually have to take a piece of paper and write

00:46:09.700 some letter of complaints and who had the energy to do that. I don't know. That's one of the things

00:46:14.780 that made me the saddest when I was looking at the old issues of Western Standard is how not just the

00:46:20.860 age of the magazine has passed, but the age of debate and allowing a range of opinion has passed

00:46:26.780 too. I'm so sorry to say. Well, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us

00:46:33.140 here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:44.780 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - October 25, 2019

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