Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Freedom is for Fascists？ with Lincoln Jay

00:00:00.000 Lincoln thanks for joining me I know you've been in a place recently that doesn't have as much

00:00:11.040 freedom as Miami is that true yeah I was in uh just got back to Toronto from Ottawa uh late last

00:00:18.380 week I was there since the 28th of January covering the truckers convoy as we all know

00:00:22.580 that was for so long man how like did you expect to be there for that long

00:00:26.760 no I originally packed for two days so I said uh the I was in the intention was two days originally

00:00:35.180 and then obviously we realized that the truckers weren't leaving so Ezra told me to stay and three

00:00:41.520 weeks later yeah that's what did it seem like they were planning to stay for as long as possible right

00:00:47.280 away because there are so many rumors about people taking tires off their trucks and and and just

00:00:53.540 parking there for as long as possible was the feeling from the get-go that they weren't going

00:00:57.100 to stay or did they sort of escalate when the government escalated do you think yeah they

00:01:01.960 like the majority of truckers that we spoke to their intention was to stay for sure it was just

00:01:06.600 hard to gauge on the ground we kept on thinking that truckers were leaving we were seeing trucks

00:01:11.800 move to different spots with what's made us think that they were leaving but uh all in all I would

00:01:18.100 say the majority of the trucks were stayed there for the the duration of the three-week period and uh

00:01:24.180 it wasn't until the very end when the police which we all saw the police crackdown that a lot of the

00:01:29.560 truckers just said I'm going to get out of here instead of getting my truck damaged uh towed so

00:01:35.080 impounded whatever the case may be so uh I was so point being majority of the truckers stayed until

00:01:40.960 uh the very end but a lot of them got out of town real quick when the uh when they heard police were

00:01:46.180 coming now we fast forward to you know when they first started saying that they're going to start

00:01:51.680 laying charges down did people start to dissipate right away or was it a slow trickle of people

00:01:58.540 leaving or how how quickly did people start to leave their posts there well basically what happened

00:02:04.180 was so this all happened on the 18th I believe of so the 18th of February is when the police actually

00:02:12.000 came in and started to basically sweep out the convoy but uh two days uh two days prior to that

00:02:18.520 so on the Wednesday they started handing out these notices these blue notices uh from the Ottawa police

00:02:23.800 saying that uh if you're a part of the convoy you know if you have a car a vehicle parked on the streets

00:02:29.740 of Ottawa that is part of the convoy you must leave the area now you're facing threats of arrest

00:02:34.580 etc etc so they kind of warmed up the uh the protesters the supporters the truckers and then

00:02:41.560 the following day they handed out a the same kind of notice but this time it was red so I guess they

00:02:46.220 were just giving sort of two warnings and then on the Friday they came and uh and basically full

00:02:52.740 the uh full force of the police came to sweep out the uh the convoy a lot of the stuff we saw

00:02:59.180 whether it's people being trampled having their trucks being broken into by police did that frighten

00:03:06.100 people or did that make them want to stay more I'd imagine there's a lot of old people there who

00:03:11.980 started once they started busting out horses running people over and SWAT teams busting in

00:03:18.200 windows that they might have gotten a little scared yeah it was like even me being on the ground like

00:03:23.460 you know I'm a journalist so I feel like I have some sort of protection although not really because

00:03:27.740 we saw Andrew Lawton got pepper sprayed Alexa Lavoie got shot with the tear gas canister Guillaume

00:03:32.300 uh one of our cameramen got pepper sprayed so I I but even still I still felt like I had a little bit

00:03:37.660 more protection if I played it right if I didn't get too close to the what they were calling the

00:03:41.560 front line which is basically the line that the police officers made various different units from

00:03:46.260 Canada and then the protesters on the other side so at times it would get very tense and you know

00:03:52.080 people were legitimately trying to hold the line so stop the police from coming up and moving in on

00:03:57.540 the convoy without real like they weren't being violent about it they were just kind of you like

00:04:02.180 just you like a human chain and it was so easy to get mixed up in that chain and there was elderly 0.90

00:04:07.400 people we saw and in my live stream you can see an old man collapses some people were saying a heart

00:04:12.180 attack stroke can't confirm any of that but he was on the ground from the crowd you know just basically

00:04:17.620 backing up on him so uh it you know it depends I would say that a lot of the people once they saw that

00:04:24.340 it was getting really crazy a lot of the older people and stuff they kind of got out of the crowd

00:04:27.700 or just kept their distance but matter of fact is just to see the police you know smashing the windows

00:04:33.520 of the rigs just no questions asked just dragging the truckers out and we've seen the videos of them

00:04:38.580 you know kneeing protesters while making arrests multiple officers on top of one uh protester so

00:04:43.520 the only violence I saw was from the police you know I was there for three weeks on the ground and

00:04:47.840 there was no violence from protesters within the convoy the only violence was when the police came

00:04:52.480 let's talk about when Alexa got shot by the gas canister I guess it was um so what was what did

00:05:01.400 you see from that what was going on at the time did you think it was justified force for them to be

00:05:07.060 shooting this stuff into the crowd how did you feel about the whole situation so basically that was day

00:05:11.880 two so the whole crackdown from the police happened over two days so basically they uh cleared out an area

00:05:18.260 of Wellington Street which is where the majority of the demonstration have been taking place

00:05:21.880 and then they basically formed a line and then camped out on that line uh overnight and then once

00:05:27.760 again in the morning we got word that there was a huge uh police presence uh not far from uh where

00:05:33.860 it had ended the previous night so they just they just trickled in and uh you know we started going

00:05:43.060 live and then next thing you know so they would just say they would all the police would just start

00:05:46.920 saying move move and that's when they had batons and they would basically just they're trying to

00:05:51.320 just gain ground right to eventually sweep the whole convoy out so as that was happening we started

00:05:56.160 hearing pops going off like pops and we assumed they're just tear gas canisters but they were so

00:06:00.380 loud because they were being fired from a rifle so that happened and I didn't even realize I was on my

00:06:05.240 live stream and I didn't even realize I just saw people commenting saying Alex is injured Alexa's leg

00:06:09.680 people were saying Alexa's leg is broken you know like just a whole bunch of things so I didn't know

00:06:14.520 what was actually happening until uh I saw her about an hour and a half later she's a trooper and

00:06:18.660 she came back and told me what had actually happened and uh you can see uh you can see a slight angle of

00:06:24.380 her running off after she got shot in my live stream but at the time I had no idea and then realized

00:06:29.240 after that she literally got shot point blank in the leg with I don't know the name of the rifle but

00:06:34.300 it's a rifle that shoots tear gas canisters and uh yeah it's crazy to think of there's a lawsuit there

00:06:40.700 isn't there I don't know how much you heard about it but there was like people saying that that was

00:06:45.380 staged I don't know if you heard that that Alexa's Alexa being shot was staged because you know how we

00:06:51.520 have websites that we get up like people think that there's a and I remember one for Avi and many

00:06:56.640 when he was arrested and people thought that was staged so not and David Menzies of course which you

00:07:01.760 were also there for where people think that we actually send people in to get hurt like that

00:07:06.380 and just because we have a web team who's able to put up a website that it must be faked it's it's

00:07:12.300 wild stuff and I know we're in a position now where most people don't believe everything they

00:07:16.480 see and they shouldn't but how does it feel thinking that people you know they think what

00:07:21.960 you're involved in is is staged and faked and we can go back to David Menzies if you want to

00:07:26.520 getting roughed up by the RCMP yeah it's crazy to think because I'm there you know boots on the

00:07:32.500 ground actually you know putting in my time and effort you're just trying to show people what's

00:07:37.260 actually happening that's why I went live just to like so people just so basically people can't

00:07:41.540 have those excuses right so that they can't say it's cut up they can't say it's edited if you just

00:07:46.260 go live you know everything is there for you to judge you can come up with your own conclusions from

00:07:52.500 the live feed and it's just crazy that people come up with these theories these rumors whatever you

00:07:58.180 want to call them when all the evidence is right there you can't stage that there's just no

00:08:02.420 way so I think it's just they're just trolls just people just trying to create something out of

00:08:07.920 nothing and it's so obvious to anyone that's seen the footage that's seen the live streams that's not

00:08:13.220 the case and even with the you know we didn't go live for with David Menzies when he got his head

00:08:17.520 slammed by Trudeau's RCMP officers but even though there's just no arguing the footage they're just

00:08:24.080 there's no arguing the footage and people are just going to say what they say now tell me about some of

00:08:29.680 the media coverage that this got obviously we're up here in Canada our own little bubble

00:08:34.220 when Sean Hannity's people called does that freak you out a little bit yeah it's just crazy to be

00:08:41.440 honest I can just consider myself lucky I was on a hot story it had international tension everybody was

00:08:48.400 talking about it at uh at one point and you know when you're really in Ottawa you could feel the buzz the

00:08:55.000 energy about it we saw Fox News on the ground there which I don't think they come I don't think

00:08:59.480 they put people in Canada too often like that unless it's a big story so I think it's something

00:09:04.460 I'll remember forever definitely and just uh you don't really again you don't really realize when

00:09:08.980 you're in the thick of it how big of a story it actually is and how much of an impact it may or may

00:09:13.780 not have but looking back at it just no regrets on the coverage I did for sure yeah that's like six

00:09:20.380 seven or eight million people watching live there however many Hannity has you think about that while

00:09:25.160 you're doing it that's great I did never did a live stream before going to Ottawa I just it was

00:09:30.860 all so new to me Yankee one Yankee our social media guy which I'm sure a lot of you guys know who he is

00:09:36.420 he uh he kind of just coached me through how to do the live streams and you know said it would be

00:09:41.240 valuable to do them so and same with the I was doing some uh on Getter and that just kind of

00:09:47.000 introduced me to it and just kept on doing them and then I kind of got a little bit more comfortable

00:09:51.000 with doing the live broadcast but I don't think there's any preparing for when like Hannity calls

00:09:56.280 Fox News I was just just thinking in my head just don't screw up yeah pretty much right and then

00:10:02.800 there's that other one I think it was the hill where they tried to bait you into talking a little

00:10:06.840 bit like Charlottesville which is something before you or I were ever even in like news media

00:10:12.420 happened before like we weren't even in 2017 I think neither of us were in like the media when

00:10:19.820 this was going on and this guy sort of just and and after the fact I sort of looked into him and

00:10:25.880 he's kind of like their guy who tries to get people he's like their Washington like I'll call

00:10:31.240 them shill kind of guy uh and any feelings on that about a guy who basically like the segments about

00:10:37.280 Ottawa and all of a sudden somebody tries to basically ruin your credibility

00:10:40.580 like one of your first like big uh exposures to U.S. audiences yeah so

00:10:47.620 basically when people when they when some different stations and stuff were reaching out to me in

00:10:53.920 Ottawa because we only had like a couple people on the ground there so I was getting reached out to

00:10:58.260 a little bit and I would just ask Sheila if what she thought about it so Sheila said yeah just go for

00:11:06.920 it with the hill I we were so busy down there I didn't really have time to do my research and

00:11:11.460 and kind of like I prepared what I could but not to like break down who I'm going in front of and

00:11:16.580 who's going to be asking me questions and they were just really quick hits so I didn't really think

00:11:20.160 anything of it so I set up my usual spot and uh everything was going everything was great as we

00:11:26.760 were leading up to actually going on air the so it was a panel of three hosts and uh it was one

00:11:32.460 female I forget her name and then two male hosts I forget I forget their names and basically uh it

00:11:38.500 was all good they were they were chatting with me just mainly the female host was chatting with me

00:11:42.440 and I was getting good vibes overall from it and then even the show opened up good they started asking

00:11:47.060 me questions and this guy just brought up Charlottesville two or three times throughout the

00:11:53.280 interview and I just I just dodged just kind of no commented it because I really have no comment on it

00:11:58.720 so I just said that and then he asked me again right before the show is about to end he asked me

00:12:03.580 for a final time he's like why don't you want to comment on Charlottesville you know he's like it's

00:12:07.640 just leaving me with a bit of discomfort and I'm just and then the female host actually uh she kind of 0.98

00:12:14.120 intervenes and she's like why are you she actually defended me and she's like why are you asking him

00:12:18.220 these questions we're we're talking about the truckers convoy why are you bringing this up

00:12:21.260 and basically I just answered I said I was in college at the time like I have no clue what you're

00:12:26.220 talking about so I could feel that it was just that they were baiting me or something or at least

00:12:31.660 the one the one guy was definitely baiting me I could feel the energy right away and it kind of

00:12:35.540 shook me when I was getting interviewed I didn't expect it at all just to bring up something so out

00:12:40.480 of the blue such a such a different topic but it was nice to see that uh the co-host defended me and

00:12:47.460 looking back at it I'm happy I did it it was a good experience to see that not everyone not all media

00:12:52.900 outlets that reach out to you are going to try and uh give you exposure that's in your favor

00:12:57.720 so and Jimmy Dore also broke down the interview too which kind of was the cherry on top yeah it's

00:13:03.980 interesting that I'm pretty familiar with the hill I mean I we all most people know that they're left

00:13:09.580 wing but that morning show that they do is supposed to be like fairly down the middle and just reporting

00:13:14.660 on Washington news and I think that surprised a lot of people and like you mentioned Jimmy Dore talked

00:13:20.020 about it who's I think he's basically an anarchist I'm not sure what his actual like he would call

00:13:25.820 himself but like him defending it was really funny um did any of the mainstream Canadian outlets reach

00:13:31.820 out to you like were you on any of those were you on any CTVs or CP24 or anything no that isn't that

00:13:37.640 interesting yeah I think looking back at it now I think it was all um I think it was all American 0.99

00:13:44.320 outlets yeah it wasn't any any Canadian outlets they all had their their experts and their people

00:13:51.420 on the ground that they want to talk to we would see them out out there every day but I just they

00:13:57.060 don't I think it's obvious they don't want anything to do with with rebel news yeah it's it's pretty sad

00:14:02.160 there Colin DeMello CTV news um reporting live um what year are we on of of lockdowns now like we're

00:14:10.400 just in Ontario things or passports are getting lifted you've been reporting on this along with

00:14:15.640 the others for at least two years now first question did you ever think it'd be this long

00:14:22.720 second question do you think we ever actually get out of this stuff yeah it's crazy to think how long

00:14:28.620 it's actually been um when I when I remember I was working as a waiter before I was even in this

00:14:35.240 world I was just finishing up college and you know I remember just saying to one of my co-workers

00:14:40.120 in the restaurant I was like it was like the night before they were it was a night before it

00:14:44.900 was my final shift at the restaurant they were shutting stuff down the next day and we're just

00:14:48.640 like I have a feeling this isn't gonna this is gonna be the last time I'm gonna see you for a

00:14:51.540 while and just like we just had a feeling that this was that's something that there was something

00:14:56.920 more and that this was going to last a long time but I don't think anybody thought that we'd still

00:15:00.940 be dealing with it that we were just going to be coming out of lockdown what was it two months ago

00:15:04.700 after there's a majority of the country's double vaccinated so I don't think anybody thought that

00:15:11.280 this was this was going to go on this long and second question is where do I see this going do

00:15:16.400 you think it's going to end do you think we're actually going to end and or do you think we're

00:15:19.660 just going to move on to something else that's what most people are saying we're just going to move

00:15:23.540 on to a climate lockdown or there's going to be another you know bio thing going on I don't know

00:15:30.440 it's hard to it's hard to tell you're seeing Teresa Tam now you know they're doing giving the

00:15:34.580 whispers again saying that yes we you know they are lifting the vaccine passport provincially but

00:15:41.860 now but they're saying as usual that you know they will bring them back if necessary if things continue

00:15:47.380 to spike I believe in the fall so I don't know it's just so hard to predict half of me believes that

00:15:54.320 we are kind of exiting it the other half of me believes that we're going to see them come back or

00:15:59.740 we're going to see masks come back if they're eventually lifted so I don't know it's it's just

00:16:06.260 hard to tell I don't know watching police interactions for this long now what's your

00:16:13.020 opinion on them been like has it changed for better or for worse and do you think that the general public

00:16:16.740 opinion has changed as much as I do because I used to look at myself you'd see those videos I don't

00:16:23.720 like I have my opinions on the George Floyd's and the Arbery's and the guy who tried to kidnap

00:16:30.240 his kid and everything else shot and all this stuff all these cops all the black lives matters and

00:16:34.840 everything and it's like you know what police have a tough job you take that position but then you start

00:16:41.120 working up here during lockdowns and all of a sudden the police are ticketing you for shaking hands

00:16:47.240 there's the one day where yourself myself writer Dave and producer Efron were reporting and the

00:16:54.560 cops didn't like us standing next to each other they try to disperse us for standing near next to

00:17:00.240 each other on a street corner does your opinion change going forward or do you are you just a little

00:17:05.560 bit more cautious how do you feel about policing now it depends there's good cops and there's bad cops

00:17:11.360 I have multiple friends some that I grew up with went to high school with that are police officers

00:17:17.000 now I know they're good guys but at the same time it's hard for me to look at police officers who are

00:17:21.980 taking the over the time and a half pay to come down to Ottawa and to you know treat these protesters

00:17:28.280 like like animals to be quite frank and again you could tell when you're out there you can tell that

00:17:34.660 a lot of the officers didn't really want anything to do with it they kind of just wanted this over and

00:17:40.020 done with I'm sure they just went for the money but at the same time you see so many police officers

00:17:44.760 just acting so viciously so it's really hard to tell I don't want to categorize all them into one

00:17:51.260 into one category because they're all different but definitely there's a there's a different sense for

00:17:59.100 policing now it seems like they are acting they're following orders a lot more and I don't know it's a

00:18:04.840 lot harder to just simply back the blue you really have to characterize them individually

00:18:09.120 what do you think now is the way forward for us as like a province or even a country in terms of

00:18:15.620 who to vote for because we thought we had the conservative party in charge of us for a while

00:18:20.620 with Doug Ford and then in Alberta and everything and it turns out that their way of governing is

00:18:27.600 still taking away your rights do you have any thoughts just from like a person or voters perspective

00:18:35.320 about what you think the next move forward should be for us as a people like not even who to vote for

00:18:41.520 but like what type of thing should we be looking for I think it's hard to say who to vote for a lot of

00:18:47.680 people like a lot of people that I was speaking to in Ottawa while I was covering the truckers convoy

00:18:52.400 were very excited about Pierre Polyev being elected the leader of the conservative party but a lot of people

00:18:58.780 at the same time were like he's just another politician so it's just hard to tell I think

00:19:03.220 moving forward though the thing that just needs to be respected all across the board is not coercing

00:19:09.160 and not coercing people to take a vaccine that they simply don't want to take for whatever reason

00:19:15.160 that's their own and simply the mandates the all these things are just infringing on people's rights

00:19:20.460 and we see the rest of the world around us slowly starting to lift these mandates and basically put

00:19:25.860 COVID in the past so whoever is whoever whoever we elect whoever should be in power in Canada

00:19:32.520 needs to understand that and respect people's rights and not coerce people for not taking a vaccine

00:19:39.340 do not fire people for not taking a vaccine and simply if do not force people to wear a mask

00:19:47.220 if you can respect all those things like those are the main things that's uh that's changed Canada

00:19:52.560 from what it once was to what it is now and no more lockdowns do you think people are going to

00:19:57.340 stop wearing masks it's going to be 50 50 maybe a bit it's so tough to say some people really like it

00:20:06.520 some people really like to please people that was one of your early predictions was the um you know

00:20:13.040 people wanting to use a mask as a way to hide from public yeah I think that's true I think that's

00:20:19.020 very true that I think a lot of people just like to wear the mask just because it kind of like if

00:20:24.480 they're shy or whatever the case may be I think the mask is kind of like a form of protection almost

00:20:29.780 you know you can hide a lot of your emotions your facial expressions and just cover it up with the mask

00:20:35.380 I think it's true hopefully we're not I think once that once enough people do it people will stop

00:20:41.100 doing it as in take it off I think it's one of those social things that like no matter what it's

00:20:47.560 not going to be preferable to wear a mask you get it's sweaty after minutes I try not to ever wear one

00:20:53.500 what do you think is going to be the next uh big thing that's going to happen in Canada

00:20:57.420 that we're going to send you to cover for six weeks I don't know I feel like there I feel like so

00:21:05.180 many people got so excited over what we saw happen with the truckers and the convoy that

00:21:09.900 I think I wouldn't be surprised if there's going to be something similar to like that similar to

00:21:16.100 that in the near future I don't know if it's a convoy to another part of Canada where they

00:21:20.840 basically do the same thing and uh and park out front of somewhere I just don't know so many things

00:21:26.660 did happen behind the scenes while the truckers were there and uh a lot of people believe that it

00:21:31.060 helped push help push COVID behind us even more so I'm not sure it's tough to predict uh but if I had to

00:21:39.080 if I had to guess I would say yes there will be something in the in the near future that uh people

00:21:43.940 are going to get behind I don't know if it'll be a convoy but what exactly is that going to be I

00:21:47.980 don't know so Lincoln we were talking about some fake news with the trucker protests in Ottawa people

00:21:54.420 thinking conspiracies how closely are you watching Ukraine Russia right now and are you as skeptical as

00:22:00.600 I am of everything given what we've learned the past couple years with COVID and everything

00:22:04.740 I at first I was kind of just you know it's just like when COVID hit you don't know what to you're

00:22:13.440 trying to filter through everything right there's basically breaking news and you're just trying to

00:22:18.420 filter out what's real what's not I don't know it's so hard to predict right now I'm hearing mixed

00:22:24.020 stories I like to talk to Dave our our editor and he kind of gives me a good consensus on on what's

00:22:30.080 going on I just don't know once again we're seeing these crazy images like I don't know if you saw with

00:22:36.300 the cardboard uh the cardboard AK-47s yeah I did see that guy that was run on Fox News you know and

00:22:43.200 I've seen that and then I saw the Time Magazine cover of the lady who uh was in some sort of bombing and

00:22:49.000 people are saying that's from 2018 so I don't know when I see them using images that aren't related

00:22:55.200 to the actual conflict it definitely sends out some red flags for sure so I don't know what to make of

00:23:00.860 it yeah I'm torn between you know people doing that on purpose and people just being bad reporters

00:23:07.060 there's that Adam Kinzinger guy um and we can just look up his Twitter and bring it up he had the

00:23:13.440 ghost of Kiev guy which was the Sam Hyde comedian photoshop um and then there's people using footage

00:23:21.320 of bombings from I think it was from 2018 a gas explosion that you have a girl yelling at a

00:23:29.060 soldier the girl was actually like a Palestinian little girl so maybe we can have a little bit of

00:23:33.720 a mashup of all the things that have been proven wrong but it's gotten to the point here where I'm not

00:23:38.580 seeing and I'm sure by the time this even airs that I'm going to be proven wrong by some stuff but

00:23:44.260 I'm not seeing the people dying in the streets I'm not seeing anything other than some buildings

00:23:50.160 being shot with missiles which is in my guess when that happens that means somebody's firing

00:23:55.540 from this building like an apartment building but um I'm kind of coming at it from the angle of

00:24:01.560 Ukraine is this notoriously corrupt country where the Clintons and the Obamas and the Bidens love to

00:24:07.900 work out of and now all of a sudden how do you notice the sort of like the social media machine

00:24:13.520 behind it like whenever we have like a BLM thing or a rainforest thing it's the same sort of deal where

00:24:19.120 it's like you're a good person if you support this and change your flag and everything do you get that

00:24:23.960 feeling that it's got like that artificial push yeah for sure it's like when everyone posted the

00:24:29.980 black screen on their Instagram it just seems like that and it's just when when the the mainstream

00:24:37.080 media just completely jumps over a story so quickly and it's just the number one story I don't know

00:24:42.440 immediately all these red flags just start going up I just they've been there's been so many things

00:24:48.500 that they've said over this COVID period that we now know are just completely not true and they were

00:24:55.180 just willing to push that narrative whatever it may be with vaccines with masking everything that we

00:25:01.420 were told was effective that turned out to be not effective at all so it's just it's just

00:25:08.860 it's you just have to be so cautious when mainstream media is running these stories and then now with

00:25:15.800 the internet with all these all other alternative sources we're able to see the other side of the

00:25:20.020 story and uh and see what's actually happening I think it's too early to tell what's really happening

00:25:24.880 but uh I guess time will tell who do you watch who you look to for these things besides Dave

00:25:29.940 Sputnik is good they just banned uh RT and Sputnik in Europe on on YouTube it's good I think it's going

00:25:39.000 to get to this point where everything they did with you know people who are unvaxxed they're going to

00:25:44.620 start being treating that in the same way as they do with Russians you know what I mean like they're 1.00

00:25:48.620 already um they kicked them out of the Olympics they kicked them out of the World Cup uh Russian

00:25:54.260 teams aren't allowed to be in the soccer tournaments right now people want Alexander Ovechkin to speak

00:25:59.280 up and everything uh Dominic Hasek the former goalie said that all NHL players who are Russian

00:26:04.700 should be suspended I don't know how that makes any sense but uh I feel like we're just going down

00:26:10.560 this line we're like oh we found another group of people we can otherize and this is supposed and

00:26:16.040 as long as we're making ourselves feel like we're good people then it's okay but where does that

00:26:20.920 exactly end and I think this is going to be the first example like you can say uh unvaccinated

00:26:26.480 people are endangering other people and whatnot but like just being a Russian person now is enough 1.00

00:26:32.220 to to be criticized for your government it doesn't make any sense to me makes makes no sense so you're

00:26:37.980 just gonna you're just gonna throw all Russians under this one bubble and say that all Russians uh should 0.99

00:26:44.860 be held responsible for what their leader is doing so you know that Russian that Russian vodka company

00:26:51.480 that's been boycotted so what do they have a is it does Putin have stocks in it like why is that

00:26:56.980 related to uh why is that related to uh to what's happening with the with the war it's just that's

00:27:04.620 another point when they're just when everybody is just jumping on something so quick they're boycotting

00:27:09.840 everything from that country there when I don't know I think it's just common sense to realize that

00:27:15.060 you can't just put everybody under one umbrella well it's like why is it companies doing this it's

00:27:21.680 like it's the new cool thing to do but like why is the first thing that a company's responsibility is

00:27:28.140 to determine like it's like trying to please the government or the but Joe Biden's gonna love us if

00:27:34.280 we stop doing dealings with this Russian company when in the end of the day we know that like a

00:27:38.220 a communist dictator is not gonna thank you at the end of the day they're just gonna you know hurt you

00:27:43.700 if you're not doing what they they want and that's sort of the pressure I feel like these companies

00:27:48.600 have succumbed to and they all just started doing it one by one just like with lockdowns just like

00:27:53.920 with Black Lives Matter on the basketball court everybody if you remember the brief period of time

00:27:58.580 where like every video game had to have a BLM message and ever and Amazon had to have it it's like

00:28:04.100 there's now these social norms that as long as a big company or the government pushes it now it's

00:28:10.440 something you have to do and if you're not you're outcast for some reason I'm not sure I understand

00:28:14.380 it it stems from the top down it's some very powerful and influential a company a media company

00:28:21.940 a social media platform like at the very top they basically send the message and then it's like a

00:28:27.420 domino effect and all these media companies all these all these platforms underneath them just

00:28:32.640 follow suit whether they truly believe it or not makes me feel like high school okay I'm gonna pass

00:28:38.440 out from the lights and I was sick for like six days so I'm gonna have to cut it short here before

00:28:44.440 I fall asleep um on this table and die thanks everybody for watching and sticking around for

00:28:49.940 this extra segment with Lincoln J Lincoln MJ on Twitter um anything else we want them to follow

00:28:56.100 you on no that's it just Twitter it's where the fame is where the cloud is it's producer Efron is

00:29:01.900 the um the the blue check mark of producer Efron looms over us his his influence gets to us you know

00:29:08.760 when you get that retweet from a blue check mark Efron grows in power each and every day that's how

00:29:14.540 you know you made it yeah exactly all right thanks for joining us thanks for being subscribers

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Rebel News Podcast - March 04, 2022

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Freedom is for Fascists？ with Lincoln Jay

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