Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Outsource Your Viewpoint with Melissa Tate

00:00:00.000 welcome back to another episode of andrew says this week we have melissa tate for the second 0.80

00:00:11.100 time always fun to have guests back melissa how are you doing where are you where are you up to

00:00:15.980 these days i'm doing great thank you so much for having me of course i mean so what's that of

00:00:23.020 course of course we love to have you here happy to be here thank you and you're still in missouri

00:00:29.980 is it no i'm actually in sunny florida now oh you're so lucky i'm so jealous let's start off

00:00:36.720 with florida then i wanted to get your thoughts on this because the florida bill which is correct me

00:00:42.980 if i'm wrong on any of this i've read a decent amount about it it's to stop uh sex education

00:00:48.980 particularly about you know transgenderism and gender ideology and gender fluidity and all that

00:00:55.600 wonderful stuff for kindergarten to grade three so that i think is five-year-old to eight-year-old

00:01:01.400 that sort of range but the media is presenting it they they have this phrase that don't say gay bill

00:01:07.760 have you seen a lot of that coverage yes i have and i actually think that the bill doesn't go far

00:01:14.520 enough because it really only stops at the at the third grade which i think it should actually go all

00:01:20.440 the way up to high school because this is something that i don't feel that schools should be teaching

00:01:25.180 in schools this is this is something that a parent should be speaking to their children about it is

00:01:31.100 not something that is supposed to be taught and indoctrinated into a child's life so i think it's 0.97

00:01:35.700 absolutely ridiculous but yes obviously the left will characterize this as don't don't say gay 0.94

00:01:41.660 because they know how to frame things and that's the that's that's what we on the right need to learn 0.95

00:01:46.540 is how to frame things and that's how the left operates when they have an issue that they're

00:01:51.500 tackling they create a frame around it and they have framed this issue as don't say gay so the minute

00:01:57.480 people hear hear about it they obviously think that this is something that is wrong and then when you

00:02:03.300 look further into it you find out that this is something that protects children from five to

00:02:07.860 eight years old from being indoctrinated into sexual orientation and transgenderism all things that have

00:02:15.100 nothing to do with children you know what a man and a woman or a man and a man or a woman and a woman

00:02:20.360 do in their bedrooms has nothing to do with children and the whole idea that you want to start introducing

00:02:26.800 these ideas of of male and female are not are not uh solid biological facts to children you're so you're

00:02:35.840 now imposing an ideology because this is something that um you know children wouldn't even think about

00:02:41.840 unless you actually introduce it to them so we all know that this is an indoctrination agenda by the

00:02:47.420 left they're starting to introduce this at a very very young age because i believe that they don't

00:02:53.980 want um they they want to start at a young age so that people are by the time they grow up they're not

00:03:00.880 even going to know the look at the world the way we've looked at it in all these years i mean we know that

00:03:07.160 a man and a woman is a biological fact but when these kids grow up they're not even going to have

00:03:13.520 that concept that's going to be a foreign concept to these children and it's it's devastating to see

00:03:19.000 what's happening and the fact that the media and the left is out there screaming about this is

00:03:24.340 absolutely ridiculous and it shows truly who these people are and i don't think they should be anywhere

00:03:29.940 near children i was talking about this very issue with my friends the other day and you're saying 0.89

00:03:35.660 about what they said which was probably not up till high school age a couple of them said grade seven

00:03:39.800 or eight um that's splitting hairs i think but i'm not sure thinking back and i'm thinking back to when

00:03:46.640 i was in high school and i think we had sex ed in grades seven and eight and then high school i'm not

00:03:53.120 sure of what i actually learned in any of those classes excuse me so i'm not sure if it i haven't

00:03:59.980 decided one way or the other but i'm not sure if it's necessary at all because once a child's in high

00:04:04.760 school how much of it do they really not know maybe it's worth a week of classes two weeks of classes

00:04:10.840 practicing safe sex i don't know a lot of it makes me kind of uncomfortable but i don't know how much

00:04:16.980 a public school or a catholic school or anything like that needs to teach children about sex it kind 0.98

00:04:23.280 of weirds me out to to think about the fact of some other adult teaching my child about sex

00:04:29.520 yes how do you feel about that have you have you thought about whether it's needed at all

00:04:34.480 i don't think it's needed at all because we didn't learn about when i was growing up in zimbabwe we

00:04:40.520 that was something that a discussion you had with your parents you know i don't think this is something

00:04:45.320 that should be outsourced to the government to talk about sex you know every um child is growing 1.00

00:04:51.900 should be able to have this discussion with their parents instead of having it at school because

00:04:56.540 when you're looking at it you know uh why is the government telling your children about what

00:05:03.980 they should be thinking about sex in my opinion when i look at my children i want to be the first 0.98

00:05:09.700 person to tell them about anything because the first person that tells them about any subject is

00:05:15.980 going to have more power and more influence on that child so really what they're doing is they're

00:05:21.040 trying to preempt that phase of when a parent gets to a point of that discussion with their children

00:05:29.140 because when i think of my children they're still very young you know they're 10 and under i haven't

00:05:34.580 even had that conversation with them because that stuff is not even on their radar but if they're

00:05:39.120 starting to have these conversations at schools that means that these people are have now undercut me as

00:05:44.240 a parent because i know when my children are ready to have that conversation based on their

00:05:49.140 maturity level based on their age so it is something that a parent should be able to have that

00:05:55.120 discussion with a school is not a place to you know teach math teach english teach um science all

00:06:02.940 those things we don't need to be having teachers indoctrinating children about their sexual views about 1.00

00:06:09.220 their views on sexuality you know it's absolutely ridiculous and and it's really sad to see that this is 0.79

00:06:16.360 what has come of the public school system i don't know if it's the same there in canada but it is 0.94

00:06:22.240 it is scary to watch as a parent i'm not sure when our starts i think they do have something starting

00:06:28.840 in kindergarten which of course i would disagree with i wanted to ask you if you saw there's all

00:06:34.340 these boycotts now that people want to have on florida the ncaa and espn espn had like a walkout

00:06:40.840 and a moment of silence during one of their women's college basketball games and i was watching

00:06:45.640 this and it was like the ladies that were the announcers they clearly hadn't read the bill they 1.00

00:06:50.880 just said we're standing with our our fellow lgbt people at disney and they're reading off something

00:06:56.580 courtney lyle carolyn peck now normally at this time we would take a look back at the first half but

00:07:01.160 there are things bigger than basketball that need to be addressed at this time our friends our family

00:07:06.800 our co-workers the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now and at three

00:07:12.480 o'clock about eight minutes ago our lgbtqia plus teammates at disney asked for our solidarity

00:07:19.200 and support including our company's support in opposition to the parental rights in education

00:07:25.560 bill in the state of florida and similar legislation across the united states and a threat to any human

00:07:32.900 rights is a threat to all human rights and at this time courtney and i we're going to take a pause

00:07:38.680 from our broadcast to show our love and support for our friends our families and our colleagues

00:07:45.000 i wonder how many people do you think actually have gone and read this they like you said they

00:07:49.580 hear don't say gay and they just immediately think that it's a bad thing because of how it's been

00:07:55.720 framed it reminded me of lebron james promoting um boycotts in atlanta and the mlb all-star game i

00:08:04.640 think was taken out of atlanta when they were talking about voter suppression when it was actually

00:08:08.040 voter id and changing the times that polls were open so they label something as sounding terrible

00:08:14.800 which they always do and i wonder is there a responsibility for these adult women i would 0.83

00:08:20.980 would assume they were at least in their 40s these women but they don't really have anything to 0.99

00:08:25.640 anything uh about the actual bill on their mind they just they just see this and they're pushing

00:08:31.200 it forward is there a responsibility for these people to actually you know inform themselves on

00:08:35.560 these things and it sounds crazy to even suggest that you wouldn't be able to but how much of a

00:08:40.320 responsibility do you think lies on these people they're calling for boycotts they're staging walkouts

00:08:44.380 and they seemingly don't even know what's in it at all they called it an attack on parental rights which i

00:08:49.380 thought was the opposite of what the actual bill was are you do you see a lot of that how do you feel

00:08:54.600 about that yeah no absolutely they have a responsibility to learn what is in the bill but

00:09:01.020 you know the left is that has our masters of deception so the way it's it is being framed in the

00:09:07.700 media is and they know that people are not going to take the time to go study and actually see what it

00:09:12.640 it is about people most people have outsourced their way of seeing the world through you know

00:09:19.320 maybe an hour worth of news and i've seen this with my grant with my uh father-in-law who was living

00:09:25.920 with us for a little bit and he just loves watching the six o'clock news he's got no concept of what's

00:09:31.600 going on in the world except for what he watches on that 60 minutes worth of news that he turns on

00:09:38.060 and then he turns off so he's basically outsourced his way of thinking and seeing the world and what's

00:09:45.620 going on in the world just based on that one hour of mainstream media news and then he's off to you

00:09:51.520 know watching whatever sports and whatever he doesn't really care about politics the way you and i do

00:09:56.520 so he's not going to go out there and start trying to research what the don't say gay bill is and what

00:10:01.680 it's really saying you know the don't say gay bill so this is your average american and they're just

00:10:07.840 getting this information and the way it's portrayed and i actually had to i actually had

00:10:13.700 to sit through and watch the six o'clock news with him because i would be cooking dinner and i had to

00:10:19.000 listen to it what network was that on so painful it was so painful because the lies the misrepresentation

00:10:26.800 the half truths it's unbelievable the level of indoctrination that is taking place or propaganda

00:10:32.580 that is being put to the american people and when they actually uh spoke about this issue

00:10:38.340 they had a teenage boy who was about 17 years old telling his story this is a teenage or transgender

00:10:46.280 person a trans woman who is a biological male talking about this bill and how horrible it is and how he's 0.82

00:10:54.460 not going to be able to express himself so right there you see that it is a deception because instead of

00:10:59.960 putting a five-year-old they put a 17 year old so they're misrepresenting what this bill is about

00:11:08.740 so the i mean even i didn't know you know and i'm somebody who follows politics when i first started

00:11:14.340 hearing the don't say gay bill and i was just thinking and i actually thought that's what it was

00:11:19.100 called and i was thinking well why are republicans doing this this is like shooting yourself in the foot

00:11:24.620 and then when i started actually reading up on it and i found out what it's about i was like wow this

00:11:29.780 is totally what it is not being presented out there to be but i'm just unique in that you know i'm a

00:11:35.780 political junkie and i'm sure many of your audience follow politics and they're into it but the average

00:11:41.260 person is not going out there to actually see what this is about so like you're saying the women that 0.97

00:11:46.460 you're talking about they're just on this bandwagon they've just been hearing it on every platform and

00:11:51.780 and because the left controls so much so many spheres of influence they're able to put it out

00:11:57.580 everywhere whether it is in media in entertainment in education everywhere it is everywhere within a

00:12:04.940 flash and people don't even take the time to go out there and actually look what it is about

00:12:09.880 they just take in the information that is being spread through all these spheres of influence on

00:12:14.800 social media on media entertainment education everything and they just run with it and then by the

00:12:21.220 time the truth tries to catch out you know it's it's already gone so far like you're saying so it's

00:12:28.260 a tragedy but we just have to continue to speak the truth and continue to put the truth out there and

00:12:34.300 i've seen a lot of people now now you're starting to see people are starting to push back and say no

00:12:39.400 this is about third uh kindergarten through third grade even though i feel like it doesn't go far enough

00:12:45.400 well with this leah thomas stuff and the swimming there by the way the score of that ncaa basketball

00:12:52.680 game was 44 to 4 so maybe they needed to just uh they need to spice and spice it up with some boycotts 0.89

00:12:59.420 but leah thomas losing the ncaa finals fifth place and last place and i'd like to point out the only

00:13:06.200 person that he lost to before that was another transgender person which was female to male let me know how

00:13:13.220 that worked out one of the teammates said that um they they staged that they rigged that but now he

00:13:19.160 loses two two uh two races in the finals that people thought he was going to win and people are

00:13:25.760 really up in arms in the last tournament where he uh where he won by like five seconds and to your

00:13:32.700 point where you think people are starting to really notice now this i think was the was the biggest

00:13:37.620 reaction i've i've seen from people on something regarding this because it's young girls they've been

00:13:42.980 swimming their whole lives you know waking up at 5 a.m probably because swimmers are crazy like that

00:13:47.740 and there's this one girl named rika georgia i have that written down she says it's unfair she's she 1.00

00:13:55.500 came in 17th in the uh the regional tournament or whatever it was before the finals and therefore

00:14:00.700 she didn't make it to the national finals because the top 16 are the ones that go and now you're seeing

00:14:05.700 people actually stand up and speak out against this thing so it seems like there's going to be

00:14:11.960 maybe some pushback maybe this is where it all starts to stop because once one girl speaks out i

00:14:18.180 think more people are going to speak out and i wanted to transition that into talking about the book you

00:14:23.420 were talking about the last time you were on here you were telling me you have an audio book coming

00:14:27.240 do you want to tell people about that and it was um i forget the title you tell me

00:14:31.840 uh choice privilege choice privilege yeah you want to tell people about how that's being released now

00:14:37.820 sorry what's that you want to tell people how that's being released now you said it was on an

00:14:42.500 audio book now yeah absolutely yeah so choice privilege is the book that i wrote which basically

00:14:47.980 pushes back on the idea of critical race theory and white privilege and actually exposes it for

00:14:54.680 what it is which is cultural marxism and as somebody who grew up in zimbabwe came to the united

00:14:59.900 states as a 19 year old with nothing but a suitcase 300 in my pocket paid my way through college

00:15:06.940 hard work determination started a business became successful i know that america is a great place

00:15:13.820 for anybody no matter what color you are but i expose the fact that you know this whole idea of critical

00:15:20.020 race theory and white privilege and is actually a ploy to racially divide and conquer america and it is

00:15:26.980 actually something that happened in my own country in zimbabwe because we also have a white population

00:15:31.240 and overnight we found uh that this idea that the white people are the reason for all our problems

00:15:37.840 was put out there as um as the narrative and it actually resulted in a devastating economic collapse

00:15:45.820 after they started to redistribute wealth from the white people to to the black indigenous people 0.76

00:15:51.060 so this is something that is near and dear to my heart and um i see it happening here in the united

00:15:56.660 states and it's been really frightening and i'm starting to see the fruits of it so i actually uh

00:16:01.640 wrote wrote the book choice privilege it's been very successful it was a bestseller on amazon

00:16:06.640 and now i've released it in the audiobook because um a lot of my well a lot of people are coming up to me

00:16:14.500 and saying you know i love i'm not really a big reader you know i have a busy lifestyle can you do

00:16:20.660 an audiobook so i was like okay they want to listen to it in their car melissa we all want to listen to

00:16:25.760 it in our cars on their way to work exactly well i didn't even know that you know audiobooks were now

00:16:30.980 this big thing so apparently it's a huge huge market like it's overtaking just regular books i guess

00:16:37.760 you know it's a big shift in the way people look at reading people just want to you know play it and

00:16:43.400 on the go and just get all the information and i think it's a it's an efficient way of getting

00:16:47.740 information well i think it's also because you get to hear the person's voice and they read it in

00:16:54.360 their own voice unless you're hiring i don't know joe biden to read it but if it's your own if it's

00:16:59.980 your own book then people i think would like to hear it in the author's actual voice now i want i'm

00:17:05.900 wondering have you released any videos about zimbabwe and about the redistribution of wealth i think

00:17:11.600 that'd be very interesting and go over very well if you just did a 10 minute video explaining all

00:17:16.880 that that's not something people talk about a lot here i'm people are more familiar with south

00:17:21.200 africa i think and maybe a little bit about china and obviously it's what people tout as being a good

00:17:27.060 idea here in north america and it obviously isn't as there are historical examples happening it's

00:17:33.140 actually happening through the esg i don't know if you've heard of the esg no thank you it's like

00:17:38.960 it's a sort of like a credit score but i actually call it a social credit score and a lot of these

00:17:45.240 big banks have have instituted it into their way of whether you can get a loan or not and it i'm not

00:17:52.440 really sure exactly what the letters stand for but i know the s stands for social so basically social

00:17:58.740 justice so if you're if you're a business that doesn't have the proper social justice ideology you

00:18:05.000 may not even qualify for a loan so to me that's that's already um something that um is already

00:18:13.020 introducing that idea and i actually saw it play out because i had some some friends that were actually

00:18:19.180 trying to apply for a marijuana license um in the state of missouri and they were trying to get me to

00:18:26.040 sign on to it even though i'm not really into that stuff but they were saying that hey if we have a

00:18:30.180 minority and a black woman on our application that's going to give us a better uh chance of 1.00

00:18:35.080 so i'm like you know that that that's how it starts that's the redistribution of wealth it's like

00:18:41.200 you know the affirmative action and and not having an equal footing so you know it's already starting to

00:18:48.120 happen and this is something that played out majorly in zimbabwe where you know they put in a law saying

00:18:54.420 that if you have a business and you're a white person you have to have a black person has to own 0.97

00:19:01.420 a large percentage of that company even though they didn't build it or do anything or whatever so

00:19:07.340 we saw how that played out i mean a lot of those investments just flowed out of the country you know

00:19:12.700 a lot of foreign investment a lot of jobs were lost it completely destroyed the economy so it's

00:19:19.460 something that doesn't help anybody because it never helped the indigenous black people in zimbabwe

00:19:24.620 who are now you know for the most part suffering hungry and so forth so it's something that we need

00:19:31.840 to push back against because it's something that you know cloaks itself in in virtue and trying to help

00:19:37.640 the downtrodden and so forth but really what it does is it destroys everybody's life whether you're black 0.98

00:19:43.640 white rich poor middle class it just destroys everybody and that's what we saw happen in 0.98

00:19:49.180 zimbabwe i know that you know that we had set you up to um debate somebody on my show and the other

00:19:59.040 person i'm not going to name them but they didn't they didn't want to debate a black woman because they

00:20:05.040 were also a black woman how did that make it was that weird for you that was weird a little bit weird 0.74

00:20:10.100 for me yeah that is weird but i think it's just it's just uh you know i think with the left you know

00:20:18.080 they don't want somebody who looks like me who is speaking who speaks the way i do because because

00:20:25.600 it completely shatters their narrative and if you have somebody like me who is as black as they come

00:20:32.120 from africa here with nothing and you know uh is able to make something of themselves the whole idea

00:20:44.580 that your skin color is an impediment and something that's going to stop you from succeeding is something 1.00

00:20:51.020 they're not going to be able to win an argument with so i think it's just a way to get out of um you

00:20:56.600 being able to i mean being able to debate somebody who's who can actually expose the fragility of your

00:21:03.360 argument are you still suspended from twitter i know there was a fake account in your name that was

00:21:08.620 some bigger profiles were sharing it too so you're still suspended from there i am still suspended and

00:21:15.800 yeah i think somebody is um impersonating me on on twitter i'm going to check on that yeah i don't know

00:21:23.420 i think it was deleted but maybe it's still back up on there but yeah i was suspended uh after me

00:21:30.680 sorry what's that what did you get suspended for sorry i cut you off um it was it was targeting because

00:21:37.540 i shared a video that is still on twitter and still being shared and it's a video of joe rogan talking to

00:21:43.940 dr peter mcculler uh about the covid situation i don't even remember what the content of the video was

00:21:50.760 and and it was shortly after i shared that video and tweeted it that i received notice that i was

00:21:57.860 permanently suspended because i've been suspended before but it was usually for like a period of time

00:22:03.300 so you know i mean twitter has been after me for a long time since i actually signed up for twitter in

00:22:09.080 2015 i had 25 000 followers and they completely shut down my account couldn't log in wasn't able to get

00:22:16.200 it back was it started creating a new account created a new account started from zero from scratch

00:22:23.340 up until you know i had 500 000 followers when they deleted when they suspended me permanently so

00:22:29.880 you know it's it's just the operation uh the way the left operates if they can't

00:22:36.360 um argue against what you're saying they'll just silence you and we've seen this throughout history

00:22:41.700 so what have you gone to now is it just instagram did you jump over to getter or gab which one did

00:22:47.320 you go to predominantly yeah i'm i'm on um getter and i'm also on truth social president truth social

00:22:55.440 i know that one um not everybody can get on right away i think they have a huge waiting list but it's

00:23:01.640 pretty good i like that one and i like getter as well so i'm on both those platforms at real melissa tate

00:23:08.520 you wanted to talk about the economy and so did i because we're we're seeing the gas prices here

00:23:15.400 as well and it was really weird because they went up by 60 cents or 50 cents for a week for two weeks

00:23:22.420 and now they're down by 30 cents they blamed russia even though we don't have oil from russia and canada

00:23:27.880 and then so the the price kind of just evened out at going up by 20 cents or something how long can

00:23:35.080 biden blame outside sources for the inflation and for the economy i see even msnbc and cnn are

00:23:41.440 questioning a little bit because you know they don't have any other excuse uh the u.s's consumption

00:23:46.800 of russian oil is is really a fraction it's three percent it's not nothing but it's still not enough

00:23:53.920 to say we need to throw these gas prices through the roof is there something else at play that they

00:23:58.980 don't want to say or is their economy just slowly getting worse and worse what's the real story here do you

00:24:04.180 think well the real story is uh what i call artificial scarcity is what they're creating

00:24:11.380 energy and this is something that they have done in africa for you know decades and that's the reason

00:24:18.120 why africa being the richest continent as far as natural resources and energy and everything

00:24:24.980 is still the poorest country and it's the reason is because of one of the major reasons is the fact that

00:24:32.620 there is an artificial scarcity of energy and when you just i mean it's a simple formula cheap energy

00:24:40.840 equals prosperity expensive energy equals poverty that's a frame that americans should or everybody

00:24:48.480 in canada north america west in the west in the world should just understand that frame cheap energy

00:24:54.700 equals prosperity so what you're seeing happening here in the united states is there is a war on energy

00:25:01.340 and is it is all being done in the name of saving the planet from climate change but but by the very

00:25:07.720 people that fly around in private jets the very people like joe biden who approved the north stream

00:25:13.220 pipeline from that goes from russia to germany that was fine with him that didn't hurt the climate

00:25:18.760 apparently but at the same time he's shutting down pipelines here in the united states not just the

00:25:24.160 keystone pipeline but plenty of pipelines and really what this war on energy represents for me is the

00:25:32.260 great reset which is what you know these elites have been talking about you know they want to recreate

00:25:38.780 society they want to re-engineer the way society works and in my opinion they're trying to go back to

00:25:45.500 more of a neo-feudalism uh society where you have a small rich elite that controls all the energy and

00:25:54.800 resources and the wealth and then everybody else is pretty much poor and subservient to this elite

00:26:01.700 class and um i know a lot of people may think well that's a conspiracy theory but this is something that

00:26:07.620 they're saying out in the open and the idea that conspiracies don't exist is something that is

00:26:13.820 ridiculous because conspiracies have always existed you know if you say that conspiracies don't exist

00:26:20.000 that's like a deer saying that wolves don't exist there's always been predators there's always been 0.97

00:26:25.940 um evil people there's always been a small group of people that want power and wealth and control that has

00:26:32.760 always existed but just because we've lived in western civilization for a long time and had a period of

00:26:39.400 prosperity and peace and democracy and freedom the concept of conspiracy maybe may be something that

00:26:47.260 people think oh well maybe that doesn't exist no it absolutely exists so we have to look at it in that

00:26:53.520 frame and the only way we're going to be able to overcome this is if people start being honest with what

00:26:59.620 we're truly up against because this is something that is not being done because of ignorance or these 0.97

00:27:05.900 people are stupid it is something that is being done deliberately and they've made it very plain 0.98

00:27:11.180 and very uh if you're just willing to look at the information and listen to what they're saying 1.00

00:27:16.300 they know that you know half the most of the population they're too busy watching netflix they're

00:27:21.660 really concerned about so many other things they're distracted even like with the war in ukraine

00:27:26.280 and all these things that they don't really pay attention to what's really going on and what

00:27:31.940 they are saying in their own words about the society they're trying to create for us

00:27:36.980 yeah and i think when you start blaming everything on russia and of course there's a hypocrisy with the

00:27:43.800 pipelines there but then you have to start looking at china and saudi arabia who are very big trading

00:27:48.840 partners or even places like egypt or the united arab emirates all these places have you can even go

00:27:56.500 back to syria and all these other places that we've dealt with and intervened with as well um iraq

00:28:02.680 iran afghanistan joe biden or obama made the the terrible deal with iran for example so all these

00:28:09.460 people and all these countries are somehow better than russia who doesn't really do anything to us 0.93

00:28:17.080 other than you know sell us oil it's very strange i think if anyone was to look into that sort of thing

00:28:22.300 they'd agree that if we're going to say russia's evil and they're not they're like russia's always 1.00

00:28:27.860 tried to invade people i'm not saying they're good but if russia's evil then what is saudi arabia and 0.60

00:28:33.020 what is china but china has its hands in so many things they can't just pull out and say well we

00:28:38.680 need to boycott china because they have their tentacles we'll call them like an octopus in in as 1.00

00:28:45.580 we've seen pharmaceuticals in over the last couple years they control most of the generic drugs the

00:28:51.920 masks and then of course you can go to a lot of other sectors and you're not about to find a bunch

00:28:57.800 of congressmen and congresswomen saying oh we need to cut ourselves off from china now i want to i want 0.99

00:29:03.260 to get your take and we only have a couple minutes left here um on the whole ukraine situation let's

00:29:08.260 assume like everybody should assume that putin wants to expand his territories back into the ussr

00:29:13.640 which he's shown with georgia and crimea let's assume everybody knows putin putin man bad let's

00:29:20.600 say what is your take on ukraine why is the u.s government so supportive of them why do we want

00:29:26.460 to keep this war going selensky is an actor they have neo-nazi battalions in them what's your take

00:29:32.920 overall should people really throw themselves into this should they you know not take a side should

00:29:37.420 they pick a side how do you feel about that in maybe two minutes well what i've been saying is that

00:29:43.180 there are no good good guys on this side nato is not good neither is is is putin so people are

00:29:50.980 this is being presented from the media's standpoint as a black and white issue like putin is bad and

00:29:56.660 nato is good absolutely not really what you have to do is study the history of what has been going

00:30:02.040 on in ukraine and you'll find that our cia actually went into ukraine and overthrew the government that

00:30:09.400 was over there in a coup and installed the government that would be more towards nato and

00:30:15.840 the eu because in the 90s when the soviet union fell nato actually promised russia that they wouldn't

00:30:22.700 expand east into any of the countries east of germany but since they made that promise they've gone

00:30:29.380 east into 13 countries and russia has really showed restraint in my opinion but had but said

00:30:37.280 that ukraine was their red line so knowing this and they've known this in this video of joe biden

00:30:44.060 talking about this red line that russia has drawn with ukraine because they have expanded so far east

00:30:51.500 that now they're right up on the russian border in ukraine so really what we're seeing the conflict

00:30:57.660 happening in um in ukraine right now i'm not saying this justifies putin invading them but this is

00:31:04.020 something that they knew was coming so ukraine was supposed to remain neutral and instead of

00:31:10.940 letting it remain neutral you know people like uh uh in in nato and in the united states were in there

00:31:17.540 trying to get ukraine to now start joining the eu and nato and that obviously inflamed tensions with

00:31:24.040 russia and russia has said for many years that ukraine is our red line ukraine is our red line

00:31:29.040 so why are we meddling in their issues and trying to get uh ukraine to join nato you know we we've got

00:31:37.660 absolutely no national interests for ukraine to be in nato it is something that i feel like it is

00:31:44.700 something that is being manufactured it is something that joe biden actually needed with the upcoming

00:31:51.920 2022 elections something that is perfect for him something that can distract people from the disaster

00:31:58.100 that he's causing here in the united states as far as economically with the border with just about

00:32:03.780 everything so now everybody is distracted the 24 hours a day seven days a week we're talking about

00:32:09.620 ukraine and my heart aches for the people of ukraine because they're just the political football that is

00:32:15.140 being played by both sides and they're the ones who suffer it's their children and their uh families

00:32:20.880 because they were promised that they were going to be put into nato and nato is not even helping them

00:32:26.520 so they're just being used as a pawn in a greater um uh what do you call this um scheme proxy war

00:32:34.440 proxy war too yeah and nato well thank you melissa i tend to agree i think it has a lot to do with the

00:32:42.340 bombing of those eastern regions and there's so much stuff coming out from ukraine of them you know 1.00

00:32:47.060 tying people to poles and then they have their nazi battalions who are fighting chechen muslims 0.98

00:32:51.900 it's so confusing it's so hard to figure out what's real and what's not i think you're very

00:32:56.340 smart i'm thankful that you came on i'd love to see more videos from you and maybe they exist about

00:33:01.880 you talking about the socialism in africa and the energy uh the fake energy crisis that you're talking

00:33:06.880 about i think that's very interesting so i want to thank you for coming on and maybe we'll find

00:33:10.800 somebody for you to debate in the future maybe we can get that to happen okay that'll be great

00:33:17.100 that'll be great it might just end up being yourself so just have a mirror image of you

00:33:22.080 and you debate yourself back and forth wear two different dresses and then record that

00:33:26.680 different times i don't know but thank you yeah i should try that i should try that since no one

00:33:31.280 wants to debate me we'll see okay go find uh her audiobook it is going is it out now it's on audible

00:33:39.520 okay it's on amazon on audible it's also available in a hardcover and uh paperback on my website

00:33:46.820 at realmelissatate.com so if you'd like to support me because i was deplatformed i was receiving

00:33:52.660 uh i was getting a lot of um i was reaching a lot of people with my message and my book

00:33:57.800 on twitter and being deplatformed that kind of set me back but it's not slowing me down so if you'd

00:34:03.580 like to support what i'm doing please grab a couple copies of the book or the audible book and

00:34:08.920 that'll be great all right thanks a lot melissa have a great day all right thank you so much for having me

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Rebel News Podcast - March 25, 2022

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Outsource Your Viewpoint with Melissa Tate

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