Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Primetime Propaganda with Sonny Joy Nelson

00:00:00.000 Sonny Joy Nelson is a political commentator, reporter, and director of media affairs for

00:00:10.620 Getter.com. She's from what I'm told is the greater of the two Carolinas, North Carolina. 0.79

00:00:15.820 Thank you for joining me, Sonny. How are you? Oh, I'm good. And thank you for having me. And

00:00:20.620 yes, you're exactly right. North Carolina is the greater of the two Carolinas. I don't know

00:00:25.320 anything that happens in South Carolina. I think there's a beach there. Is that correct? Or is

00:00:28.800 that North Carolina? Yeah, we both have beaches. South Carolina has Charleston, which is beautiful,

00:00:34.160 but North Carolina has Superior Barbecue and everything else. Okay. I'm going to need to

00:00:39.700 be mailed some barbecue sauce after this, I think. Yeah. Okay. Text me your address. Okay. No problem.

00:00:46.400 First thing I wanted to ask you, mainly for the audience and for me, what got you into politics?

00:00:51.060 How did you sort of get your start? Because looking back at your first videos, was Big League

00:00:55.600 politics your first gig or what got you started? Um, yeah, so my family has always been super into

00:01:01.540 politics. Um, he, I, I grew up, uh, watching the news and just being super into politics and my family

00:01:08.200 is very, very much involved in the pro-life fight. So that translates into politics very easily for me.

00:01:14.900 Um, but after college, I actually jumped on the Trump campaign, which was amazing. I mean,

00:01:20.940 that's a pretty good first job out of college. So, um, it was great. You know, President Trump just,

00:01:27.240 he stood for the values that I believed in. He's the most pro-life president we've had

00:01:31.080 in terms of action. And so that was my start. And since then it has just been rolling and I've loved

00:01:36.520 every minute of it. Was there one like event or somebody or something that really sort of got you

00:01:43.140 into politics or was it just, like you said, your family was always into it. So you're always just sort

00:01:47.260 of aware of it because up here it's like, not unless you like immerse yourself in it, you're

00:01:53.060 not just going to be into politics. I feel like. Yeah. Um, I really think it's just the way I was

00:01:59.020 raised. Um, it was something I was always aware about. Um, and like, you know, I grew up watching

00:02:05.780 Fox news all the time with my grandparents. So it's something that was just instilled in me at a

00:02:10.460 young age. And when I actually started college, I started as political science. Um, then I changed

00:02:15.900 a major, like five times. And so I'm glad I ended up back to the political arena.

00:02:23.360 I think we have some B roll of one of your first videos. Do we have that? Can we throw

00:02:27.340 that up? I'm Sunny Joy Nelson. We're at the March for our lives tour as they stop in Greensboro

00:02:31.860 in North Carolina. We're going to talk to people today about why they hate the Second Amendment.

00:02:36.220 What do you think should be changed? Should the Second Amendment be changed or what?

00:02:39.360 What's the Second Amendment? The right to bear arms. Oh, the right to bear arms. What everyone's

00:02:44.160 protesting about. All right. Well, I'm guessing this is, um, what? March for our lives rally?

00:02:50.080 Do you think the Second Amendment should be outlawed completely?

00:02:55.380 No, I don't. What should change about it?

00:02:59.240 Well, I'd have to see the whole thing to answer that question.

00:03:03.220 You, now you don't hear that you had a thicker accent in that?

00:03:07.340 Oh, I, that makes me so sad that people keep telling me my accent has changed and I blame

00:03:13.420 it on living in the swamp for two years. But now that I'm back in the South, I'm hoping

00:03:17.920 it, it will come back with time.

00:03:20.440 With time. Exactly. Um, a lot of stuff in that, in those videos, you ask people about,

00:03:26.360 um, the questions you asked them, it seemed like there was a lot of propaganda they must

00:03:31.040 have been subject to. And I feel like propaganda is at like an all time high. It's gotten to this

00:03:35.920 point where as long as people think that they're doing something for the greater good or doing the

00:03:39.960 right thing, they're okay with pushing it. And I'm specifically talking about Sesame Street,

00:03:44.400 where they're so unafraid to push propaganda. I think that they're willing to give medical

00:03:48.920 advice to children and see nothing wrong with it. So I want to show two clips. One of them I hadn't

00:03:53.760 seen until today. So I included it, but basically Big Bird and Elmo pushing vaccines. So can we play that

00:03:59.460 please? My granny bird says that since I'm six years old, I can get the vaccine.

00:04:04.500 Well, Big Bird has been on Sesame Street for decades. His ageless character is supposed to be

00:04:09.240 six years old. He announced on Saturday that he's been vaccinated against COVID-19 just days after the

00:04:15.360 CDC director signed off on Pfizer's pediatric vaccine. The announcement quickly drawing backlash.

00:04:21.700 Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz accusing the bird of quote, government propaganda.

00:04:26.100 Elmo and I are feeling hopeful and excited.

00:04:30.260 Woohoo! Elmo can't wait to have an indoor play date with Andy.

00:04:34.880 We're excited because lots of grownups are getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Soon lots of us will be able

00:04:41.500 to do our favorite things again.

00:04:43.640 Like Elmo and Daddy can share cookies with Cookie Monster at Cooper's store.

00:04:47.820 Oh yeah!

00:04:48.880 I didn't know Elmo's father was like a Southern prospector in the gold rush. Well, Elmo,

00:04:52.880 oh, it's time we get a vaccine. But I feel like they probably did that to try to make it relate

00:04:58.120 to people in the South. But what's your initial reaction to something like that?

00:05:02.200 Well, I guess he's more Southern than I am now. But I just, all of this is just so cringy to me.

00:05:10.080 I mean, why are we marketing to children? I just want to know how many children that are watching

00:05:16.740 Sesame Street or also checking Twitter to see what Big Bird is tweeting. I mean, what happened

00:05:21.500 to Sesame Street? I honestly, as a child, I never watched Sesame Street, so I don't even really know

00:05:26.560 their characters and things like that. But I just, what happened to teaching them the alphabet

00:05:31.180 and counting and their colors and things like that? They're trying to market to children.

00:05:37.220 And have they not learned anything from what Facebook just went through? You know,

00:05:41.240 they just got in trouble marketing to children. But here, Sesame Street, PBS, here they are

00:05:46.220 trying to influence children and their thought processes. And it is just insane to me. And I

00:05:51.600 really want to be like, did y'all not learn anything from what just happened at the Virginia

00:05:55.880 governor's race? I mean, it all came down to education and the government thinking they have

00:06:02.260 the right to raise your children or that they can raise your children better than you can.

00:06:05.460 But we saw that didn't resonate with the American people. So I just feel like PBS should have learned

00:06:10.940 something from that and that this was not a good tactic at all.

00:06:14.480 Well, I did some research into this, actually, and it seems like they've always been pushing

00:06:18.560 different views. From what I wrote down here, children meeting with hippies. Of course, 0.83

00:06:25.420 they had George Floyd stuff on there before. And in Ben Shapiro's book that I haven't

00:06:29.340 admittedly read the whole thing of, but it's called Primetime Propaganda. And one of the

00:06:33.400 original executive producers told Ben Shapiro that they purposely had anti-war political

00:06:38.580 messaging after 9-11 happened. They were talking about alternatives to going to a war. So what I

00:06:44.680 want to ask you is, do you think political messaging directed at children is inevitable from both sides?

00:06:49.500 Or do you think that it has to purposefully be put in there?

00:06:53.140 You know, I don't know. I think it's just very strange that they're, I don't want to say

00:07:00.400 attacking, but trying to influence children at such a young age. And they're trying to

00:07:04.580 go around the parents, you know, things, things like politics and stuff like that,

00:07:09.280 it should come from the parents. It shouldn't come from the government and it shouldn't come

00:07:12.700 from schools. But yet we see this on TV and, you know, social media, everything where they're

00:07:18.600 going after children and trying to influence them at their most impressionable ages.

00:07:24.420 Yeah, I think it would be a lot safer, like you said, teach the alphabet, maybe say, be healthy.

00:07:29.880 I mean, they're not really affected by this anyways. So that's probably a good start.

00:07:33.680 I think another form of what we're seeing, especially around all these trials happening

00:07:38.220 these days, but Aaron Rodgers from the NFL, he think, I think he's a perfect example.

00:07:43.240 Have you heard about the story surrounding him and how they're calling him a liar and everything?

00:07:46.780 Yes, I have. And I actually was looking on your getter feed and reading some of the articles

00:07:51.800 that you posted about him. This is just insane to me. Aaron Rodgers, who is allergic to one of

00:07:59.240 the ingredients in the mRNA vaccine, it's being put on blast for not taking this vaccine. You know,

00:08:06.060 what happened to bodily autonomy? He said it, he said it best, you know, healthcare is not a one

00:08:11.600 size fits all type of thing. And yet he's still being condemned and fined for not getting this

00:08:17.740 vaccine. And it's hard for me not to draw the parallel here where, you know, the left, they just,

00:08:23.780 they are totally fine with bodily autonomy when it comes to abortion and ending life inside of the 0.98

00:08:29.120 womb. But when it comes to a vaccine, oh no, you have no bodily autonomy. You have to do what is best

00:08:34.760 for the greater good, not, not what's best for you personally. And it's just crazy to me that the

00:08:40.080 NFL is treating him like this. Why can't the NFL just play football? That's impossible. From what I

00:08:46.360 understand, he said he took the antibodies, the monoclonal treatment. He took ivermectin and he

00:08:52.520 told his entire team and the league and said that he got a statement was that he got immunity, which is

00:08:58.300 what you get from, you know, like they're injecting immunity into you essentially, but they still call

00:09:04.840 him a liar. And that's not like immunization. That's exactly what it is, getting immunity.

00:09:09.560 What do you think is the motivation, obviously from mainstream media, as we call them, or left-wing

00:09:15.480 Twitter or something like that? What do you think is the motivation to sort of be like vaccines are the

00:09:19.640 only thing that are the solution and this is the only thing you can promote or talk about? Why do you

00:09:23.480 think that is? You know, I don't know, because I feel like we saw a flip when vaccine first came out

00:09:29.320 under the Trump administration. There wasn't this like giant, huge push for vaccines and mandating

00:09:34.940 them. But as soon as Joe Biden took office, now all of a sudden it's a mandate and you have to get it.

00:09:39.960 And I just want to know what happened to the time when your health and your health records were kept

00:09:44.640 private. Now, I mean, even you have to show your vaccine card to go out to eat at a restaurant in New York

00:09:51.300 or California or all these other liberal cities. And I just cannot believe this is an America that we are

00:09:56.800 living in right now. It's not one that I want to live in. It sounds like your restrictions are pretty similar

00:10:01.860 to here. What's the like the passport and vaccine proof situation in Carolina there?

00:10:08.320 We don't have any of that right now. Thankfully, North Carolina has been pretty laid back, even though we do have a

00:10:14.380 Democratic governor. We have an amazing lieutenant governor, Mark Robinson. So I haven't heard anything about

00:10:21.060 a vaccine passport. I think if the governor tries that, it will not end very well for him. So

00:10:27.340 we're kind of staying in the in the you wear a mask if you're not vaccinated and you don't have to wear

00:10:35.920 a mask if you are vaccinated. But they're they're not asking for any kind of proof or anything like

00:10:40.140 that yet. For the audience, I did ask Sunny to put on a mask for this interview and she refused. So

00:10:46.340 don't blame me, everybody. Somebody else from North Carolina, Bryson Gray, all over the Let's Go Brandon

00:10:52.340 train, number one on so many different platforms. I want to ask you about the Let's Go Brandon thing

00:10:57.120 as a whole. Do you think it's an important thing? I see people on the right wing, some maybe greater

00:11:02.480 minds than I saying, you know, this is just a trope that doesn't really get anything done. Do you think

00:11:07.440 it's important for the culture or is it just sort of a distraction because it doesn't actually change

00:11:12.500 anything? You know, I think it is important because if you look at where this chant is,

00:11:17.960 it's taking the storm, it's at college football games, it's at college events. And so it just gives

00:11:25.040 me so much hope to see all these young people, you know, getting involved in politics, even at the

00:11:31.560 lowest level by like a simple chant. It makes me happy to see that people actually care and they're

00:11:37.480 noticing how horrible of a job Joe Biden's doing and that he's running our country into the ground.

00:11:42.140 We at Getter, I'm sure you have seen, we have flown our Let's Go Brandon join Getter banner. We've

00:11:49.820 flown it across college football games, across the sky in President Trump's rallies. And it's been a

00:11:56.720 great thing. We've gotten a lot of traction from it. And I think it shows really that I saw a tweet

00:12:02.580 that said hatred against President Trump has been captured and manipulated by the mainstream media.

00:12:08.180 But hatred against Joe Biden is organic. It just springs up, you know? And so I think it's a lot

00:12:13.820 of hope. What do you think is the most pressing issue in the country right now? I mean, a lot of

00:12:19.480 things. I mean, when I think back to when Trump is prime minister, I think that the border was

00:12:24.360 probably the most important story at the time. Is it the border? Is it inflation? Is it gas prices?

00:12:31.200 Is it the supply chain? In your opinion, what do you think people should be paying most attention to?

00:12:34.720 Can I say all of the above? Because they all are just, I feel like, equally so important. Gas is so

00:12:41.560 expensive right now. But the supply chain crisis is also insane. You know, I just moved into a new

00:12:48.040 house. And so I've been ordering a lot of furniture and things like that. And it has taken weeks to get

00:12:52.760 here. So, I mean, I'm personally being affected by it. It's extremely annoying, in my opinion. So, I mean,

00:12:59.520 yeah, we see the immigration crisis that's happening at the border. I don't think I can narrow it down to

00:13:04.080 just one single thing. Because, I mean, you also have the vaccine mandates and people that are

00:13:08.240 getting fired from their jobs. Nurses and police officers that worked throughout the entire

00:13:13.960 pandemic and were called heroes. But they're now getting fired because they have decided,

00:13:19.640 hey, I do have some bodily autonomy. I should be able to decide what medical, you know, procedures

00:13:25.300 and things like that I have happened to me. And I just think Joe Biden, he doesn't know what's going on.

00:13:30.840 And it is just resulting in our country just going downhill.

00:13:35.660 Yeah, it's really weird to me how much people get a sense of self-entitlement when they tell people, 0.99

00:13:41.380 you know, that they're an idiot for not taking the vaccine or something or like, 0.99

00:13:44.420 good, that we should kick them out of their job. It's sort of like it's given, in my opinion, 1.00

00:13:49.100 it's given people, you know, this definitive thing to point to themselves and say, I'm a good person.

00:13:54.640 And now here's this definitive thing that I can separate myself from other people. And if you

00:13:59.980 don't have this, then you're not a good person. It's sort of like your get out of jail free card

00:14:04.220 where you sort of have this societal upper hand in their mind. I think it's really weird when I see

00:14:08.720 people talking that way. It's like, would you be saying this to somebody if like you, they had

00:14:14.800 cancer and you didn't have cancer? Like it's sort of the same thing. Like you have a medical procedure

00:14:18.620 that I haven't had, so I'm better than you. It's, it kind of creeps me out. I think that's a big

00:14:22.680 problem with the culture today, but I do want to talk to you about more getter stuff before I

00:14:28.120 forget. I talked to Jason Miller a few times now. I want to get your thoughts, your story on how you

00:14:35.160 got involved with it from the start. Cause this is, I don't know how many months into getter are we?

00:14:40.060 Oh, let's see. Our official launch was on July 4th. So we're a few months in,

00:14:44.900 four or five months in, and it is really just taken off. I think we're up to almost 3 million users now,

00:14:51.620 if we haven't surpassed that already. So, you know, people are attracted to freedom and freedom

00:14:55.740 of speech. How did you get involved with getter where is it? Cause you were on the Trump. I want

00:15:00.780 to ask him about Trump too, but, uh, and your time there, but how did you get involved with

00:15:04.460 starting up the platform? Yes. I've been involved with gather since the very beginning. I worked with

00:15:10.240 Jason at the campaign a little bit and we worked together on the second impeachment, the beginning

00:15:14.980 of this year. And he came to me and told me about this amazing idea and amazing opportunity. And I was

00:15:20.180 very happy to jump on board because I love everything that getter stands for. And it's, um,

00:15:26.280 it's very important as we're going forward and we're seeing our freedom stripped away. It is very

00:15:31.600 important that there's a platform like getter that's standing up for those freedoms when so many people

00:15:36.060 are just handing their freedoms over to the government. Jason told me when I spoke to him that

00:15:41.360 he was in talks with Trump. Now I imagine you were either behind the scenes or there with him. Did you

00:15:46.540 guys get the feeling that he was going to start his own platform? Was the writing really on the

00:15:50.600 wall there by the way he was speaking? You know, I'm not sure I wasn't involved in any of those

00:15:55.460 conversations, so I don't want to say, but we obviously are very happy that president Trump is

00:16:00.620 joining the social media atmosphere again. We have missed him and I'm excited to be able to hear

00:16:05.740 directly from him once again. What do you guys have any new features you can tell me about that are

00:16:10.580 coming out? Cause I've seen most of the time when I, uh, if I take like a week off from going on,

00:16:16.100 but I usually post my stuff, but when I'm usually sitting there browsing, I see something new and

00:16:21.440 I've always touted you guys as having the best, you know, video uploading. It's so much faster

00:16:25.500 than Twitter and the other platforms. So I appreciate that. What else new can you say that's coming?

00:16:31.400 Yeah, that is one of the great things about getters are superior technology, especially when it comes to

00:16:36.720 uploading videos and in-app video editing. We have our live feature coming soon. Yes, I am super

00:16:44.640 excited for that. I'm actually going to go try to go live after we finish this. I haven't gone live

00:16:50.320 yet, so I'm going to try that. Um, that should be coming to everybody hopefully in the next few

00:16:55.560 weeks or months. Um, right now it's available in the desktop version and it should be coming

00:16:59.700 to the mobile version soon. So we have that coming up. Um, we also have some more giveaways coming

00:17:06.540 up the Harley Davidson get Revan giveaway. That's a lot of keys back to back. Um, is we're actually

00:17:13.640 going to announce that winner tomorrow in the villages, Florida, Jason has announced for that

00:17:18.380 to me. So it's going to be a, you know, I don't know of any other social media platform that does

00:17:23.540 use amazing giveaways, but getter. We really care about our people and our users. So I'm excited for

00:17:29.600 that. Spoiler alert that it's me who won everybody. It's rigged. Um, just kidding. If you see me in a new

00:17:36.280 car tomorrow or something, that's why, um, we want to get on the getter live. So if, uh, if we can get

00:17:41.660 on that, please let me know. I want something else I wanted to ask you is you're obviously deeply

00:17:45.640 involved in social media. When you were first getting your name out there with the Trump campaign

00:17:50.220 and everything, did you lose friends on social media? I feel like that probably happened to a lot

00:17:54.780 of us. What was that, uh, Genesis like? Yes. Um, you know, I did. I don't know if I would call

00:18:02.700 them friends, maybe acquaintances people I went to college or high school with, but you know,

00:18:06.900 that's something that I'm honestly not too concerned about because when you stand up for

00:18:11.080 truth and when you stand up for what's right, you're going to lose friends. You know, it's hard

00:18:14.880 to stand up for the truth and it's hard to stand up for what is right. But in the end, it's what we're

00:18:20.340 called to do. And it's something that I'm happy to stand for. Were you vocal back then too,

00:18:26.380 or did you just sort of keep it to yourself? Um, well in 2016, I wasn't on the campaign. I was

00:18:32.880 pretty vocal on Twitter in 2016, but that was, you know, just with my friends 2020. Yes. I tweeted

00:18:39.280 all the time. Um, so I stayed pretty vocal. And like I said, the pro-life issue was my number one

00:18:45.700 issue as it remains today. And president Trump had, he had so many pro-life wins that it was,

00:18:52.240 you can't keep that in. You know, when you have somebody that values the sanctity of life

00:18:56.500 from the very moment of conception, that's something that, that you should celebrate.

00:19:01.340 And it's something that I celebrated a lot. What would you say, what comes to mind first,

00:19:08.180 looking back, working, working for Trump? What's the story that pops into your head first? I'm sure

00:19:13.140 you get asked this all the time. Oh, like, Hmm, there's so many, but I think honestly,

00:19:19.320 the debates, uh, going to the presidential debates in Cleveland and in Nashville, both of them were

00:19:24.420 really, really, um, amazing. The one in Nashville was awesome. I, I have just, I'm so thankful for

00:19:32.740 my time there. It taught me so much. And I hope that I can continue to help president Trump in the

00:19:38.920 future. Was it weird to sit there and hear Biden pretend that he didn't know what Antifa was and

00:19:44.640 like, yes, but also it's to be expected because that's what he's been doing for his entire life

00:19:51.480 now. So it is to be expected. All right, Sonny. Um, thanks for joining me. I'm out of questions

00:19:58.600 for you. It's fun to talk to you. Sonny Joy Nelson from Getter. You guys still with a Carolina accent.

00:20:03.920 Anything else you want to say to the Canadians? Oh, well, join Getter. Follow me on Getter. My 0.83

00:20:09.760 username is at Sonny Joy Nelson, and I hope you will have me back on soon, Andrew.

Rebel News Podcast - November 12, 2021

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Primetime Propaganda with Sonny Joy Nelson

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