Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Protests, Mansions and Policing： Hawk Newsome (BLM) & Eric Butler (Tatum Report)

00:00:00.000 Eric Butler is a podcaster and writer for thetatenreport.com.

00:00:09.480 His book, New York City 2020 Gotham Unglued, documents the decay of New York City,

00:00:15.220 which is exactly where our second guest is from.

00:00:17.580 Hawk Newsome is the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Greater New York.

00:00:21.240 You have seen him on programs like Candace Owens on The Daily Wire, of course, and many others.

00:00:26.100 And his group has protested outside the Brooklyn Nets Arena for Kyrie Irving

00:00:31.680 and vaccine passports and gun violence and other issues in New York City.

00:00:36.500 How are you guys doing? Thanks for joining me.

00:00:39.040 Thanks for having me, man. Appreciate it.

00:00:41.020 Thanks for having me.

00:00:42.120 All right. I appreciate you guys both coming on.

00:00:43.920 I want to start off with Kyrie Irving there with you, Hawk.

00:00:47.120 When I interviewed another member of your organization, Shavonna,

00:00:50.540 you guys, she talked a lot about the work you guys were doing protesting outside of,

00:00:55.960 I guess it's Barclays, right? In Brooklyn.

00:00:58.620 Yeah, Barclays.

00:00:59.800 And it was pretty ahead of the curve.

00:01:02.440 I'm sure you guys received a lot of positive reactions from all over the place during that time.

00:01:07.500 And finally, way down the road, finally, they've changed the city ordinance in New York City

00:01:12.200 where artists and athletes can finally perform, I guess you can call it.

00:01:17.060 And Kyrie Irving is allowed to play again.

00:01:18.720 Can you take us through the timeline a bit of that and how you think that came to be

00:01:22.840 and whether or not you think it was a good move for the city to, you know,

00:01:26.260 make it only for athletes and artists as opposed to other people in private businesses?

00:01:32.020 Okay. Let's take it from the top, right?

00:01:34.960 Because my experience with the anti-mandate, anti-vax crowd wasn't anywhere near pleasurable.

00:01:43.840 We came out because originally there was a fight at a restaurant named Carmine's.

00:01:51.080 There was a lot of personal issues going on, but the hostess who was in the wrong 1.00

00:01:57.000 used the vaccine mandate as a reason to get these women arrested,

00:02:02.960 and nobody from the anti-vax community came out for these Black women. 1.00

00:02:07.160 So I was like, you know what? Screw you. 0.99

00:02:10.420 I'll come out when I need to for Black people, Black-related issues. 1.00

00:02:14.680 And so they called about Kyrie Irving.

00:02:17.720 I was like, yeah, let's do it.

00:02:19.620 Now, people know I come out.

00:02:21.580 I'm coming with the fire.

00:02:23.180 Like, nobody's joking around.

00:02:25.400 Like, we're going to shut some things down.

00:02:27.300 We're going to make our point.

00:02:28.540 We're going to get a lot of media and a lot of attention,

00:02:30.840 but this is the way we operate.

00:02:32.660 So this dude named Michael Caine from New York, teachers for freedom, 0.99

00:02:37.500 complete hypocrite and bozo, he actually was a fan of mine 0.96

00:02:43.800 and quoted me in my stands on the mandates and invited us into this space, 0.99

00:02:48.240 knowing good and well what we do, right?

00:02:53.200 And what did we do?

00:02:54.240 We stormed the door.

00:02:55.460 We moved the gates out of the way and let all the protesters in

00:02:58.800 to charge the Barclays, right?

00:03:00.540 And let them know that we weren't playing, that we wanted Kyrie to play.

00:03:04.540 And the next day, the same person who begged for me to be a part of this

00:03:08.400 went and disavowed us and our actions in the media,

00:03:13.940 which was completely mind-blowing.

00:03:17.080 TMZ, ESPN, CNN, you name the network,

00:03:22.260 we got press coverage of us going against the mandates.

00:03:26.160 And they disowned me.

00:03:28.440 So after that, I just said that they could stick to their crowd

00:03:31.780 with their anti-Joe Biden and Proud Boys theatrics,

00:03:36.540 and I'll just be good.

00:03:38.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:39.120 Like, I'm anti-Joe Biden, but I'm not with their whole gang of things 0.96

00:03:43.440 because I think they exploit Black people. 1.00

00:03:45.680 I think a lot of the pulls by the anti-mandate crowd 0.95

00:03:50.140 to get Black people in was like, 1.00

00:03:51.800 hey, this is bigger than racism.

00:03:53.680 Actually, it's not.

00:03:54.820 Nothing's bigger than racism.

00:03:55.820 Anyway, I'm sorry.

00:03:57.420 I know I'm long-winded.

00:03:59.000 Kyrie Irving, we're glad we won the victory for Kyrie.

00:04:03.060 But at the same time, what message does it send to the poor teachers,

00:04:06.800 to the poor firefighters, to the poor nurses

00:04:08.860 who dedicated their lives to their profession,

00:04:12.560 who were out during COVID, keeping our city going?

00:04:17.460 And because they're not rich athletes, they are not exempt.

00:04:22.520 Like, our mayor is a joke, and he caters to the 1%, to the ruling class.

00:04:29.500 And it's no secret that the New York Mets owner gave him over a million dollars

00:04:35.800 toward his campaign, and voila, you know, Mets can play baseball.

00:04:39.520 Like, this is the way politicians in New York City work.

00:04:42.200 So, I just want to see it applied equally and fairly to everyone.

00:04:46.540 And I want to get to the mayor soon, because as we mentioned,

00:04:49.220 Eric has spent a lot of his life in New York City.

00:04:51.460 Eric, do you disagree with any of that?

00:04:53.200 Do you want to comment on, like I said,

00:04:55.420 the New York City mandate being only for artists and athletes,

00:04:58.840 while private individuals are still, you know, out of luck, basically?

00:05:04.460 Oh, no.

00:05:05.080 I totally agree with that.

00:05:06.400 And I would agree with the idea that Eric Adams is a complete joke.

00:05:11.240 I think we might disagree on exactly why that's the case,

00:05:14.820 but that's just because the man has so many problems, right?

00:05:17.780 So, you know, I don't care for him at all.

00:05:21.380 And to be honest with you, full disclosure, I left while de Blasio was still mayor.

00:05:25.700 So, I haven't lived under the leadership, shall we say, of Eric Adams.

00:05:31.140 And another thing, just as far as, like, the Kyrie protests in the Barclays Center,

00:05:35.860 I think, yes, I'll agree with you that Eric Adams is not good for the population of New York,

00:05:41.120 rich, poor, black, white, whatever the case may be.

00:05:43.520 But I will also say, I think one thing that,

00:05:46.740 one of the few things that I think I might agree with Hawk on is the mandate protested.

00:05:52.320 So, it's funny that the one thing that I think they did good,

00:05:56.040 however forceful the protests at the Barclays might have been,

00:06:00.280 I agree with that.

00:06:01.880 And it's some of the other stuff that I've sort of,

00:06:04.260 and again, I haven't talked to Hawk personally,

00:06:06.500 but it's some of the other stuff that the Black Lives Matter organization has been involved in

00:06:11.040 that I wouldn't quite agree with.

00:06:12.340 So, it's just funny.

00:06:13.660 Maybe it's ironic.

00:06:14.940 I don't know what the term is that.

00:06:16.320 The one thing I think they did good,

00:06:18.520 they get lambasted in the press for,

00:06:20.240 but pretty much everything else they do that I don't really quite agree with,

00:06:23.300 they almost get a pass for.

00:06:25.100 Notably, the protest, the protesting in the summer of 2020,

00:06:31.660 when I was out there just trying to go back to work.

00:06:34.080 And we're talking-

00:06:34.760 Wait, wait, wait.

00:06:35.020 What does my protesting have anything to do to what you're talking about, bro?

00:06:40.540 Like, if you want to go into a BLM debate, we can. 0.66

00:06:44.360 You want to talk about all the bad things we do,

00:06:46.300 talk about the 50,000 people we fed.

00:06:48.860 Talk about the thousands of turkey and ponies I gave away.

00:06:51.380 Just one last thing.

00:06:53.060 One last thing. 0.99

00:06:53.940 Talk about the fucking school I own, okay? 1.00

00:06:56.940 Where kids get a $50,000 education for free. 0.99

00:07:00.080 So, you can talk about that.

00:07:02.340 He asked you about mandates, bro.

00:07:04.460 We were talking about mandates.

00:07:06.400 And I'm just giving-

00:07:07.320 You're in 2020.

00:07:09.400 You're in 2020.

00:07:11.080 Like, if you-

00:07:11.880 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:13.480 Wait for a better question.

00:07:15.100 Like, come on, bro.

00:07:16.180 Like, I'm not here for this.

00:07:17.620 I'm in the tropics.

00:07:18.480 I've been praying and meditating, like, this is a spiritual experience.

00:07:22.360 This is a journey for me.

00:07:23.660 I didn't come on here to fight with you about nonsense, bro.

00:07:26.280 I'm not fighting. 0.94

00:07:27.340 All this is on social media like a troll.

00:07:28.960 Like, get out of here.

00:07:29.640 I'm not fighting.

00:07:31.360 I'm just stating my position.

00:07:32.560 And that's part of the reason why I left the city is because I think it's crumbling.

00:07:35.740 But what I was going to say is that I think-

00:07:38.880 And yes, you're right.

00:07:40.100 We're talking about things from two years ago.

00:07:41.860 And I think it's worth- I think it's worth discussing simply because we can't- if we just

00:07:46.900 let these things go and pretend like it never happened, then we're never going to get anywhere.

00:07:51.940 So the point I was basically trying to make is I think that sometimes, like, if- and it

00:07:56.880 might not even- I don't know who organized the protest outside of City Hall Park in the

00:08:02.340 summer of 2020.

00:08:03.040 But it was just strange that they seemed to get a pass to protest out there for nearly

00:08:08.680 a month while some people early in the virus were saying, hey, this doesn't quite add up.

00:08:13.340 I just want to go back to work.

00:08:14.540 They were arrested by the NYPD.

00:08:17.840 And I think we can agree that the NYPD are certainly no angels.

00:08:21.940 I'm tired of people on the sidelines talking about stuff they don't know.

00:08:25.480 I was out there.

00:08:26.480 Cops couldn't shut us down.

00:08:28.060 Listen.

00:08:28.780 Listen.

00:08:29.400 Because you're expecting-

00:08:30.140 So the cops-

00:08:31.260 Let the real players talk about it.

00:08:32.160 Let the players talk about it.

00:08:33.920 Yeah, let's not talk over each other the best we can.

00:08:36.980 Cops couldn't stop us.

00:08:39.040 They came.

00:08:40.180 We assimilated.

00:08:41.100 We were in four-mations.

00:08:43.120 They couldn't break that formation.

00:08:45.660 They couldn't.

00:08:46.380 It would have been too much bloodshed.

00:08:48.220 It's easy to arrest people in small numbers.

00:08:50.860 They couldn't do anything with us.

00:08:52.820 Think, man.

00:08:53.640 Think.

00:08:54.740 Let me ask my next question.

00:08:56.440 Sorry, Eric.

00:08:56.980 Let me ask my next question about New York City.

00:08:58.880 I think we're all in agreement that we're not huge fans of Eric Adams and Hawk.

00:09:04.260 Recently, he did this move.

00:09:06.860 And I didn't care for it, frankly.

00:09:08.580 And it's not because I necessarily agree with you.

00:09:10.760 He called out Black Lives Matter for not protesting against, I think, gun violence.

00:09:15.540 Correct me at any point if I'm wrong about this.

00:09:17.560 He called out Black Lives Matter in New York, which would include you, I think, for not protesting

00:09:22.540 enough against gun violence.

00:09:24.500 Because it's clearly out of control again.

00:09:26.600 They've put in these new laws about bail and everything.

00:09:29.540 Everybody's heard about all that.

00:09:30.940 What's your reaction to that?

00:09:32.120 And what do you think he's really trying to say?

00:09:33.620 Because to me, it was kind of like, do my job for me, whether I agree with you or not, Hawk.

00:09:38.080 It sounded like the mayor wants you to do something for him, and he's mad that you're not doing it.

00:09:42.620 That's my opinion.

00:09:43.480 How did you take that so-called call out from him?

00:09:45.840 What did you take from that?

00:09:46.640 Listen, one thing I'm getting tired of, right, and I might seem a little bit abrasive, but

00:09:54.640 one thing I'm getting tired of is people saying they don't agree with me, all right?

00:09:58.220 I get it from the right.

00:09:59.240 I get it from the left.

00:10:00.340 All you got to do is say it one time.

00:10:01.840 You don't have to keep saying you don't agree with me.

00:10:04.240 It would be a horrible country if we all agreed on everything.

00:10:08.100 It would be a terrible place to live.

00:10:11.540 Here's the problem with the mayor.

00:10:13.420 The mayor has a staff of hundreds.

00:10:17.720 He has hundreds of politicians.

00:10:21.520 He has billions of dollars and 40,000 police officers.

00:10:28.320 And when they asked him, what is he going to do about the 20 shootings, the 20 people shot

00:10:38.900 within two days, the mayor called out Black Lives Matter. 0.60

00:10:43.420 To anyone with half of a brain, it would be like, wait, he's deflecting.

00:10:49.340 Like, this is—he's obviously deflecting. 0.98

00:10:52.140 What we said before, because a lot of people just think we're just crazy activists.

00:10:57.900 Like, my sister studied economics.

00:11:00.040 I have a law degree and a business degree.

00:11:01.960 I've worked in politics for 15 years.

00:11:03.860 I worked for a prosecutor's office alongside police officers.

00:11:07.280 So when I talk about police brutality, I know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:11:11.540 I've worked the cases.

00:11:13.200 Whatever.

00:11:14.040 I digress.

00:11:15.340 Here's a man without a plan.

00:11:18.240 The original point of contention in that big argument, that fight we had that made international

00:11:24.420 news was we said, we're going to hold you accountable.

00:11:28.120 He said, I'm holding you accountable for violence in the streets.

00:11:32.500 So wait, you have a person who ran on a platform that was, I'm going to keep the city safe.

00:11:40.260 Some crimes are up 44%, bro, from this time last year.

00:11:45.420 Shootings are up. 1.00

00:11:46.440 His new specialized unit that we were fighting him over, only 30% of the arrests are related

00:11:53.000 to guns.

00:11:53.640 The other 70%, they're arresting people for petty crimes, misdemeanors, violations.

00:11:59.400 Like, this man, he's great at press conferences.

00:12:04.100 Ah, he's great.

00:12:05.780 He smiles.

00:12:06.520 He makes all the right jokes.

00:12:07.580 He makes a lot of great statements.

00:12:09.080 But his efficiency, his ability to follow up is non-existent.

00:12:14.120 Like, if you look at us, for example, we do this for peanuts.

00:12:18.500 We passed seven laws in six years.

00:12:20.900 We have a school, like I said before.

00:12:23.120 We take care of whole communities, like, because we know how to follow through.

00:12:27.020 We're efficient.

00:12:27.700 We're intelligent people.

00:12:28.880 We're not just talkers.

00:12:29.920 We're not just commentators.

00:12:31.060 We're actually warriors who have minds, you know?

00:12:34.800 So this mayor, and what's really sad to me is the press has given him a pass.

00:12:41.760 From what I, last time I checked, Fox News was giving him a pass because he's pro-police.

00:12:45.740 And liberal media in New York are just letting him do and say whatever without saying, hey, bro, you said you had a plan, and it's non-existent.

00:12:57.220 Nobody is holding him accountable except for us.

00:12:59.560 And the fact that he called us out was nonsense, but we had already been working on a plan to de-escalate the violence in our communities for a few months now.

00:13:09.340 We're going to launch around the time of George Floyd's death.

00:13:12.020 So we're going to keep working and doing what we're doing and let everybody else keep doing what they're doing.

00:13:17.240 Eric, do you think it's weird that the New York City mayor would say, hey, activist group, you need to be more responsible for violent crime?

00:13:26.140 Or do you think there's another side to this at all?

00:13:29.520 Well, of course, Eric Adams, I mean, he's just a pure politician, right?

00:13:33.380 He's not going to – he's a political puppet.

00:13:35.960 So, of course, yeah, Hawk is right.

00:13:37.480 He's deflecting in that sense.

00:13:39.040 But I think that this does sort of give us a glimpse in – like, this does sort of let us know that, hey, this actually isn't all about race.

00:13:49.040 You know what I mean?

00:13:49.560 I mean, the police force is largely, you know, people of color, black people.

00:13:55.640 I know in Flatbush, I didn't really see – I don't remember seeing even one white cop. 0.88

00:14:00.020 So you got a lot of black cops. 0.96

00:14:01.900 You got a black mayor. 0.99

00:14:03.240 He's not doing anything for the city. 0.98

00:14:06.200 So I think that at least while he is a complete puppet, I think that is a little bit of proof that this is bigger than a racial issue. 0.75

00:14:15.800 I mean, Eric Adams is a complete failure. 0.56

00:14:18.000 He's de Blasio 2.0.

00:14:19.200 He might even be worse than de Blasio.

00:14:20.700 I don't know.

00:14:22.240 That's a different discussion.

00:14:24.780 But, yes, it is – actually, it's not strange that he would do that.

00:14:27.900 It's actually very predictable that he would deflect to somebody.

00:14:31.220 He's going to find a scapegoat.

00:14:32.520 But I think there is also something to be said for, you know, maybe there is an avenue for Black Lives Matter to reach out.

00:14:42.080 I don't know what they're doing as far as, you know, some of the gang violence that I was accustomed to and what's really going on in the streets.

00:14:48.640 But maybe there is an avenue for them to combat that a little bit.

00:14:53.260 But is it the mayor's place to say it and deflect from his responsibility?

00:14:57.320 Absolutely not.

00:14:59.060 Okay.

00:14:59.580 I want to move on to the big controversy now.

00:15:03.180 And, again, Hawk, step in anywhere where I might be factually incorrect.

00:15:06.720 The BLM mansions now are making big news. 1.00

00:15:10.100 I know you're not part of the national branding.

00:15:13.640 In Canada, there is, I think, $8 million.

00:15:16.120 In California, $6 million.

00:15:17.540 Does that hurt your image at all?

00:15:20.240 Have you had to answer for any of that sort of stuff?

00:15:23.400 I know you're not, I don't think you're directly involved with the national group there.

00:15:27.380 Have you had to sort of answer for that if people come down on you for that?

00:15:32.380 Man, I am so tired of this conversation.

00:15:35.900 Like, what's interesting to me, right, is, like, why people don't care about who in American politics, what senators, what congresspeople, had invested into these vaccine companies?

00:15:50.280 I don't know.

00:15:51.940 Who was it?

00:15:52.960 Rumsfeld?

00:15:53.460 Who was it that was involved with Halliburton when we went to war in Iraq and we were buying all the weapons from a company that somebody earned?

00:16:03.440 Rumsfeld and the vice president, I think, as well.

00:16:06.020 Exactly.

00:16:07.040 Like, come on, man.

00:16:08.200 Get out of here. 0.98

00:16:08.900 People are corrupt, all right? 1.00

00:16:10.740 And the fact that, like, the fuck? 1.00

00:16:12.740 Like, this is not rocket science. 0.99

00:16:14.580 You have people in groups who do the wrong thing. 0.97

00:16:17.660 I'm not going to bash these black women. 1.00

00:16:20.160 They have relinquished leadership. 0.99

00:16:22.880 They're off doing God knows what.

00:16:25.020 God bless them.

00:16:25.600 I'm tired of it.

00:16:26.480 Because the thing is, the problem is not people who are genuinely concerned with where the money is.

00:16:32.640 The problem is people who never believe in this new civil rights issue.

00:16:38.100 People who don't believe in racism.

00:16:40.800 People who are harmful to this movement for civil rights.

00:16:44.540 Those people use this and they run with it.

00:16:47.400 So it kind of discredits the movement, all of these allegations and stuff.

00:16:52.080 Should they be brought out?

00:16:53.320 Yes.

00:16:53.740 I'm going to get transparency.

00:16:55.280 Whatever you want to do.

00:16:56.220 I'm going to open the book.

00:16:57.440 But I'm just tired of it, bro.

00:17:00.260 Like, let's get back to work.

00:17:01.600 Like, I'm serious.

00:17:03.400 Like, I'm fighting white supremacy every day.

00:17:06.880 I'm fighting oppression in banking.

00:17:09.080 I'm fighting oppression in education.

00:17:11.980 I'm fighting oppression by police department.

00:17:14.560 And the young brother, Edwin, said something really interesting about police officers.

00:17:19.560 Well, I worked in law enforcement. 0.92

00:17:21.420 And the problem with a white supremacist power structure is the blacks and the Latinos try to impress their superiors 0.98

00:17:30.000 by proving that they are not part of who we are out into the street. 0.98

00:17:35.320 So the white ADAs used to make fun of the amount of black and brown cops who were in the complaint room

00:17:42.180 because they were like, they would always just go so hard to prove that they weren't like the rest of us.

00:17:48.460 And this is no dig at you, brother.

00:17:51.160 It's just like, I know.

00:17:52.440 Like, the things that I talk about, I know.

00:17:54.460 I live.

00:17:55.120 People are going to ask.

00:17:56.340 I'm not out here talking about Bitcoin.

00:17:58.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:17:58.680 Bitcoin ain't my world.

00:17:59.620 I ain't going to write a book about Bitcoin. 0.99

00:18:01.260 I talk about shit I know. 0.98

00:18:02.740 People are going to ask what you mean by white supremacy in one of these things. 0.99

00:18:05.820 Can you give us an example of what you mean by that?

00:18:07.960 Let's – either the banking or the policing.

00:18:10.360 Can you really explain what you mean by that?

00:18:12.500 Because people are going to hear that.

00:18:14.080 Go ahead.

00:18:14.920 Here's the thing.

00:18:15.820 I don't want people to feel any type of way. 1.00

00:18:19.560 The problem with Americans right now is they are lazy and they listen to people that sound like they know what they're talking about, but they're full of fucking shit when all you have to do is read. 1.00

00:18:32.980 Like, there's this thing called redlining, right? 1.00

00:18:35.580 And it was a policy back in the days. 0.88

00:18:38.180 And black people couldn't buy houses, right? 1.00

00:18:41.240 So these houses that black people weren't allowed to get were sold for $10,000, right? 0.96

00:18:47.800 And a great way to pass on – two great ways to pass on wealth, generational wealth is housing and insurance.

00:18:57.000 So those $10,000 houses now on average are worth $500,000.

00:19:02.040 So this is something that we were kept out of, that we could have built solid foundations on.

00:19:06.440 If you talk about insurance policies, black people weren't allowed insurance policies to pass down generational wealth. 0.64

00:19:14.920 If you want to talk about racism and policing, then you could talk about Eric Adams and his new stop and frisk policies that he brought back and how it's like 99% black. 0.99

00:19:27.000 You could talk about the era of – the reason why I like talking about mass incarceration to conservatives is because Donald Trump came out and said, hey, you know what?

00:19:39.160 They got it wrong.

00:19:40.480 This era of mass incarceration was racist.

00:19:42.880 Let's fix it.

00:19:43.720 Donald Trump did more to address racism and policing and the judiciary system than any Democrat ever has.

00:19:54.200 But you still have his followers who say, nah, there's no racism in policing and the judicial system. 0.97

00:20:01.700 It's fucking amazing to me, bro. 0.94

00:20:03.800 All people have to do is read. 0.97

00:20:05.500 And I'm just losing patience, man, for people who don't do research and just talk the talk.

00:20:11.000 Eric, you want to chime in on that?

00:20:12.480 Not really, because I don't quite agree, and I know Hawk doesn't want to hear that.

00:20:19.900 He's heard it a million times already.

00:20:21.720 But to be honest with you, I don't think that –

00:20:24.000 You don't agree with what part?

00:20:25.360 I just don't – I just don't – I feel like even like what you said about the cops and how they try to prove to their superiors that they're not part of the streets or whatever.

00:20:35.060 I feel like that's an assumption.

00:20:37.920 I mean, you know, we could talk about, oh, you know, I was a lawyer, I was a cop, I was all this, all that.

00:20:42.840 But the truth is I don't think you genuinely know what all these people are thinking.

00:20:47.460 I mean, how can you possibly know if a man doesn't genuinely want to be a cop and doesn't genuinely want to help his own neighborhood and just say that he's trying to impress somebody?

00:20:58.380 So I don't think that –

00:21:01.000 It's cool.

00:21:02.540 It's cool.

00:21:03.660 It's cool.

00:21:04.100 You don't have to believe me, but I'll tell you this.

00:21:05.540 No, no.

00:21:06.360 No, I'm not.

00:21:07.000 When there's racism, when there's racism in policing, I have chiefs, I have white shirts, I have executives in the NYPD and call me to work a case.

00:21:18.480 Think about that.

00:21:19.740 Mr. I hate cops, which is who I am.

00:21:22.380 Cops call me to help them with issues of racism in policing. 1.00

00:21:27.020 Think about that shit, man. 1.00

00:21:28.240 Let that sink in. 1.00

00:21:29.620 Let that sink in.

00:21:30.580 You know, I'm not buying all of it.

00:21:36.200 You just were 100.

00:21:37.180 You don't have to, because you know what?

00:21:39.660 You know what the problem is.

00:21:40.800 You know what the difference is between me and you.

00:21:43.200 If you made a valid point from your life experience, I'd be like, yo, you know what?

00:21:49.100 You're right.

00:21:50.020 Like, my dad used to always say even a broke clock is right twice a day.

00:21:55.360 So when Republicans are right, I'd be like, yo, they got that right, bro.

00:21:59.720 Like, they got that right.

00:22:01.240 And I would do the same.

00:22:02.000 Absolutely.

00:22:02.320 I would do the same.

00:22:03.000 Correct.

00:22:03.520 Nah, nah.

00:22:04.260 I'm sitting here telling you about my life experience, bro.

00:22:07.540 And this is God's honest truth.

00:22:09.160 I have nothing to lie to you about.

00:22:11.200 What about my character?

00:22:12.080 When I talked about my experience two summers ago, you said, oh, well, it's irrelevant.

00:22:18.020 It's two years old.

00:22:18.740 You're not living it.

00:22:19.600 So I literally told you about my life experience and what I remember.

00:22:23.240 I was just wondering where it came from.

00:22:25.520 I didn't get it.

00:22:27.840 I didn't get it.

00:22:28.880 Like, and you said, hey, guess what?

00:22:31.500 No, I actually conceded to your point.

00:22:34.440 You said that the mask mandate people, the mask mandate people were getting arrested, but

00:22:40.280 those people were not being arrested.

00:22:42.640 And I told you why.

00:22:44.040 I told you because they had 100 people in formation.

00:22:47.380 And for the police to go in there, it would have looked like Selma. 0.92

00:22:50.260 It would have looked terrible for a mayor who was trying to play like he was racially friendly.

00:22:55.160 I told you why.

00:22:56.320 I told you the difference.

00:22:57.400 I didn't disagree with your experience.

00:22:58.900 I told you why they didn't get arrested.

00:23:01.240 And I'm curious as well.

00:23:02.780 If you want to talk about people, if you want to talk about people not getting arrested in 2020, well, the attorney general, I love facts.

00:23:10.200 The attorney general, Patricia James, Letitia James, actually filed a lawsuit against the NYPD, citing mass acts of brutality during the uprising of 2020.

00:23:24.340 So not only were they arresting people, they were beating the shit out of people to the point where the attorney general has filed a lawsuit against them.

00:23:32.640 Facts are your friend, bro. 0.98

00:23:33.840 And I think the attorney general is completely corrupt, but that's a different story.

00:23:40.480 I'm just genuinely curious, though.

00:23:42.340 Who's not corrupt?

00:23:43.300 Who's not corrupt?

00:23:44.280 Who's not corrupt?

00:23:45.920 Yeah, and that's the problem.

00:23:46.480 I'm not corrupt, you guys.

00:23:48.300 There's a lot of it.

00:23:49.320 We're talking about in politics.

00:23:50.760 Who's not corrupt?

00:23:51.940 You know what was so funny?

00:23:53.040 All the Republicans were like, oh, the Democrats stole the election.

00:23:57.600 Wah, wah, wah. 1.00

00:23:58.880 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:24:00.900 Bush stole Florida. 1.00

00:24:02.300 Okay, Bush stole Florida. 0.67

00:24:05.020 People steal elections every election cycle.

00:24:08.780 It's just people, you know, always crying when it's them, man.

00:24:12.300 Like, they always cry when it's them.

00:24:14.220 All right, I want to get to the next point.

00:24:15.520 Unfortunately, I'll have to probably bleep out stolen election on YouTube.

00:24:20.660 You serious?

00:24:21.680 Yeah, YouTube will take you down if you question any election results.

00:24:25.700 Delete your page.

00:24:27.200 Well, you can say it in one direction.

00:24:29.320 That's true.

00:24:30.140 You can say it in one direction.

00:24:31.120 Ask Elizabeth Warren.

00:24:32.300 I want to talk about the most recent, of course, Supreme Justice.

00:24:36.280 A lot of problems with that.

00:24:37.620 I want to see if you guys have...

00:24:38.740 I have my own problems with it, with the inability to answer some questions, I feel like.

00:24:43.780 I want to see if either of you guys have problems with it.

00:24:46.360 Joe Biden, they demanded to nominate a black woman. 0.99

00:24:49.680 That's what they did.

00:24:50.520 Was it the right person?

00:24:51.560 Eric, you go first this time.

00:24:52.680 Well, no, I don't think...

00:24:55.240 I don't know her whole history.

00:24:56.980 I don't know what it's all about.

00:24:57.880 But I know from some of the hearings that I heard, of course, my number one thing is that, you know, she... 1.00

00:25:04.640 And we could talk about the lenient sentencing that she did.

00:25:09.200 That's a different story.

00:25:10.040 But as far as not admitting to what a woman is, that's startling for me because that... 0.93

00:25:20.300 Well, first of all, she said she's not a biologist, which alludes...

00:25:24.280 Which makes us think that, okay, so gender is something that is based in biology. 0.99

00:25:30.600 That's the first thing.

00:25:31.660 And the second thing is, this is coming from a group of people, and not all, not every, but this is coming from a group of people that three years ago was,

00:25:41.320 Believe All Women, I'm with her, you know, there was pussy hats all over the place, Me Too, all this stuff. 1.00

00:25:48.660 It was all about women, Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:25:50.680 And then when they need to jump through their hoops, she says, I don't know what a woman... 1.00

00:25:55.980 And that's a clear ideological...

00:25:58.400 I mean, remember when Amy Coney Barrett was getting confirmed, and there's definitely some problems with her as well, but that's not what this is about.

00:26:03.920 When she was getting confirmed, asked her for her religious beliefs, and she adopted kids and all this stuff, and they said, well, that's too ideological.

00:26:13.020 But her pretending that she doesn't...

00:26:14.760 And I say pretending because she obviously knows what a woman is. 1.00

00:26:17.740 She's married.

00:26:18.200 She has kids.

00:26:18.720 So she knows exactly what the truth is.

00:26:20.680 But for her to jump through those hoops is very telling, and it doesn't fare well, I think, for just reality.

00:26:27.920 That's going to slip reality right from under us and make it to the point where we see it now with the prisoners and the swimmers and, you know, the track stars and...

00:26:37.340 Not stars, but track athletes and stuff.

00:26:39.580 So that's...

00:26:41.140 It's one thing to interpret the law how you see fit, but it's another thing to completely ignore reality.

00:26:48.460 And that's a problem I think that she's going to bring to the table. 0.67

00:26:51.660 Hawk, one question.

00:26:53.300 Do you like her?

00:26:54.580 Do you have an opinion on her as, you know, a justice, a woman going into that position, a person going into that position, I should say?

00:27:00.080 And two, do you think when Joe Biden says, the person I'm going to nominate has to be a black woman, do you think that sort of, you know, lessens any achievement or status she might have just by, you know, nominating her without saying that?

00:27:13.920 Here's the problem.

00:27:17.700 We have been fighting for equity for so long.

00:27:21.560 The reason why there were things like affirmative action, the reason why there's these pushes for inclusion is because white people kept us out of a lot of things.

00:27:33.000 Like, this isn't, like, made up.

00:27:35.680 These are facts.

00:27:36.480 These are numbers. 0.94

00:27:37.540 White people kept us out of certain jobs, kept us out of their learning institutions. 1.00

00:27:41.360 So things were done to make sure that white people would at least appear to be behaving in a fair nature. 0.99

00:27:50.100 With that being said, Democrats exploit black people. 0.98

00:27:56.940 Republicans don't really care about poor people or issues affecting black people, but Democrats exploit black people. 0.99

00:28:04.960 So you nominate a black woman and it's like, yes, you know, we got a sister in there. 0.98

00:28:10.300 And whoopee, right?

00:28:13.140 But see, the thing is, like, I'm so far, and I'm happy she's in there, right?

00:28:17.680 I'm glad the little black girls with braids in their hair could look up and say, I can aspire to that one day. 1.00

00:28:23.620 I can aspire to that one day.

00:28:25.360 But let's face the facts.

00:28:27.120 People appoint folks that align with them politically.

00:28:30.780 Right?

00:28:32.840 So I think the more important question is to say, what do her rulings look like?

00:28:39.120 People had no problems.

00:28:40.800 This is the problem with this country, right?

00:28:43.000 There were Republicans who were like, she's great.

00:28:45.240 Her record is superb.

00:28:47.580 I just can't stand behind her.

00:28:49.880 Like, really, dude?

00:28:51.480 Like, really?

00:28:52.660 Like, really, dude?

00:28:53.760 You know, but that's the problem is we're too partisan.

00:28:57.980 We're pulled apart.

00:28:59.500 And you can't even acknowledge what the other side is saying about being sellouts.

00:29:06.280 Now, if there's anything that concerned me with her record on pedophiles, I found that to be extremely concerning.

00:29:14.960 But here's the problem, right?

00:29:17.640 Here's the problem.

00:29:18.740 So now it's Republicans who are saying, pedophilia, save the babies.

00:29:26.460 And 10 years ago, it was the Democrats saying that.

00:29:31.420 Like, I give up on American politics.

00:29:36.480 It's the slippery slope.

00:29:37.440 I'll tell you what.

00:29:38.340 The Overton window.

00:29:39.460 I'll tell you something. 0.96

00:29:41.200 I'll take my crew of black folks who I'm out here running around trying to save my nation. 0.93

00:29:46.660 And if you got some poor rednecks with some common sense, then we can sit down and we can have a conversation. 1.00

00:29:53.660 Because at the end of the day, if these poor black folks and these poor rednecks are going to agree on this, this world is out to screw poor people. 1.00

00:30:02.580 These politicians are prostitutes that are bought and paid for. 1.00

00:30:06.260 Ninety percent of the people you see on the news don't care about the truth or advancing humanity. 0.99

00:30:13.080 They just care about arguing their sides.

00:30:16.660 Probably money as well.

00:30:19.060 Sometimes I sound, yeah, money, right? 0.98

00:30:21.440 Sometimes I sound real fucking smart, bro. 0.96

00:30:24.620 I'm serious. 0.98

00:30:25.800 And it's like God.

00:30:26.900 It ain't me, man.

00:30:27.840 And not saying that God is speaking directly through me.

00:30:30.180 But, like, if you're a Christian, if you're a Christian, like, people will deny immigrants access to the country for food and water, right? 0.61

00:30:43.060 But Jesus talked about feeding the poor and giving them a cup of water. 0.97

00:30:48.860 Like, this country is so hypocritical. 0.92

00:30:54.200 You have Mayor Adams who's literally kicking homeless people off the street, taking their belongings and throwing them in dumpsters. 0.99

00:31:03.260 And this is the left.

00:31:05.540 And all these Democratic politicians are letting them get away with it. 0.50

00:31:11.100 Like, do we not see how evil this world is?

00:31:14.480 And it's not the Democrats are evil.

00:31:16.740 It's not the Republicans are evil. 1.00

00:31:18.360 They're all evil.

00:31:19.200 So, because the brother, good brother, what's his name, Emmanuel, pointed out a good point, right?

00:31:26.120 He said, you know, all these women were pro-women, believe all women, two, three years ago, right? 0.68

00:31:31.960 I'll do you one better.

00:31:33.800 The Democrats were screaming, my body, my choice.

00:31:36.820 And now they're forcing you to take a vaccine.

00:31:39.140 The Republicans were screaming, you shouldn't be able to have abortions. 0.99

00:31:43.220 I'm telling you what to do with your body.

00:31:45.060 And now they're yelling out, you can't tell me what to do with my body. 1.00

00:31:48.580 This whole system is screwed and hypocritical. 0.99

00:31:52.880 God bless the truth-tellers. 1.00

00:31:55.660 Eric, do you want to talk about it?

00:31:56.960 Yeah, go ahead.

00:31:57.780 And then we'll move you on the paywall after this. 0.99

00:31:59.840 Eric, I'm sorry.

00:32:01.460 I wasn't sure what you were referring to.

00:32:03.500 I thought Emmanuel was going to help.

00:32:05.200 I think we got Emmanuel, we got Edwin, we got a couple things.

00:32:08.400 But I think that those are signs.

00:32:12.220 And I think, again, just to bring it kind of full circle, is like,

00:32:15.640 shouldn't that be clear to us that this is bigger than race?

00:32:20.020 And boys have to come down to race?

00:32:21.940 And secondly, the thing about my body, my choice thing.

00:32:26.260 What's bigger than race? 0.90

00:32:28.380 No, the fact that all politicians are evil and they're preying on poor people.

00:32:32.840 Right?

00:32:34.200 That's basically what you said, right? 0.97

00:32:35.680 Is that all politicians across the spectrum are totally—they're corrupt. 0.92

00:32:39.620 If you look behind racism, it's classism. 0.96

00:32:44.880 I'm agreeing with you.

00:32:46.160 Behind racism, it's classism.

00:32:47.760 I'm with you.

00:32:48.480 I'm with you.

00:32:48.900 So, the one thing that I think—and we're close to agreeing on the my body, my choice,

00:32:57.560 the left and right thing there.

00:32:58.880 However, the one little nuance part that I think slides in there sometimes that I won't

00:33:03.260 quite agree with, that baby is not your body.

00:33:07.440 That's a completely different body.

00:33:09.200 Right?

00:33:09.420 So, that's kind of what I think the right is.

00:33:11.680 Whatever.

00:33:11.900 Well, that's true because—

00:33:14.080 So, a stranger has more to say about what's inside a woman's body than that woman herself?

00:33:20.500 Well, it's just—

00:33:21.260 You know what?

00:33:21.280 You got it.

00:33:21.760 I'm not arguing abortion.

00:33:23.320 No.

00:33:24.040 It's the community's baby.

00:33:26.560 It's the community's baby.

00:33:27.600 No.

00:33:28.140 No.

00:33:28.760 No.

00:33:29.100 It's just—and it's just the fact that if it were her body, then there would be no argument

00:33:36.760 there.

00:33:37.020 It's the fact that it's separate.

00:33:38.300 Now, I'm not a super staunch, you know, pro-lifer.

00:33:42.360 I'm not like, you know, on the—you know, I'm not going to any of those type of pro-thing.

00:33:46.600 I'm just saying that's where I think they're coming from is that if it were her body, then

00:33:52.360 it would be a different—and if it weren't a living being, then there would be no discussion

00:33:56.620 because the whole thing about abortion is actually ending that life. 0.99

00:34:01.060 So, that's where they're coming from.

00:34:02.900 And I do say I will tend to agree with them on that, but I'm not out there, you know,

00:34:06.860 protesting and taking those.

00:34:10.340 This abortion fight—this abortion fight is about population control, okay? 0.55

00:34:14.380 And if somebody told you differently, they lied to you, bro.

00:34:18.340 This abortion fight—

00:34:18.660 And we are—

00:34:18.860 This abortion fight—having people—having people have more babies is so that whites don't 1.00

00:34:25.320 become the minority in America.

00:34:27.520 This is why people are like, dude, y'all better have babies. 0.72

00:34:30.420 We better stop these women from having abortions. 1.00

00:34:32.260 It's so that the Mexicans and Latinos don't outnumber everybody. 0.99

00:34:37.180 And black people. 0.95

00:34:38.280 I mean, you go to Oakland, like where I'm from, they pop those things out in the middle

00:34:42.540 of the—those Planned Parenthoods.

00:34:44.420 So, and, you know, shout out to Kanye and, you know, doing his little—his dramatic crying

00:34:50.940 about abortion and stuff.

00:34:52.320 But it's pretty clear that—now, fact-check me on this because I don't have the exact

00:34:56.520 numbers, but I'm pretty sure that abortion is ending the lives of mostly black children. 1.00

00:35:01.900 So, if we want to take the race car there, we'll take it there. 0.99

00:35:05.360 There's more—there's more—there's more—more black babies killed. 0.96

00:35:10.220 I know this was two years ago. 0.98

00:35:12.000 More black babies killed by abortion in New York City than actually conceived.

00:35:17.400 Than were born. 0.98

00:35:18.160 In the birth.

00:35:18.960 Yes, exactly.

00:35:19.340 All right, Hawk, I want to ask you about some of the banking stuff because I don't know

00:35:23.380 if you heard, but up here in Canada, and this just came to me right now, the people who

00:35:27.580 donated to the trucker convoys, GoFundMe, I think it was, had their bank accounts seized.

00:35:34.080 At the very least, it was locked.

00:35:35.360 I don't know if they took the money from them, but they locked their bank accounts, put

00:35:38.100 on like a federal list.

00:35:39.640 And, of course, a lot of people are worried about that.

00:35:41.420 People are worried about just donating to us or donating to other things that have like

00:35:45.520 political leanings.

00:35:46.400 What type of ideas do you have to circumvent like this banking system that I think everybody

00:35:51.900 is becoming more aware of with cryptocurrency and everything?

00:35:54.920 And for people like me who are kind of worried that like maybe the government one day is going

00:35:58.800 to come from my bank account, is there other ways to, you know, go about living your life

00:36:03.140 with a bank account?

00:36:03.920 I'm really sorry.

00:36:07.540 Like, y'all don't understand.

00:36:09.240 For two years, I've been trying to get away and be by myself.

00:36:13.900 So I've been trying to do this.

00:36:16.020 So a friend said, you can use my rental house.

00:36:20.560 And I've been here for free for like three weeks.

00:36:23.300 There is one restaurant on this whole island.

00:36:26.220 There are no people here.

00:36:27.280 I've just been praying, meditating.

00:36:29.020 I ran a mile for the first time since 2019.

00:36:32.660 I lost about 15 pounds.

00:36:34.040 I quit smoking.

00:36:35.280 So I'm in a really spiritual place.

00:36:36.920 But if you see me swatting, there's a lot of bugs.

00:36:39.640 I've got about 100 bugs bites on me.

00:36:42.160 You know what I'm saying?

00:36:43.260 So that's what I'm swatting at.

00:36:44.740 So banking, like, there was a case down in Houston, or it was the case down in Texas, Chase Bank,

00:36:54.080 where a black woman, doctor, went into a bank with a $16,000 check, and they called the cops

00:37:01.900 and accused her of fraud.

00:37:05.680 And this was a doctor with her credentials.

00:37:09.180 And they still wouldn't serve her.

00:37:11.040 They wouldn't open account for her because they reserved the right not to. 0.94

00:37:14.740 If this happens to a black woman, it happens to black people across the country. 1.00

00:37:18.620 You always see these things. 1.00

00:37:19.940 So what we're saying is take your money and put it in a black bank.

00:37:24.960 That's where we are going with this.

00:37:27.600 I hate what's happening with the world.

00:37:30.740 You have the state of Florida banning books that tell the truth about racism in America,

00:37:37.480 banning math books because somehow they have something to do with critical race theory.

00:37:41.940 But you also have the Democrats who are silencing people.

00:37:47.640 It's like, okay, the book thing is like Stalin, Hitler, right?

00:37:52.840 And you look at what the Democrats are doing, and it's like Saddam Hussein whisking people 0.72

00:38:00.620 way in the middle of the night.

00:38:01.960 Except we're just calling it like cancel culture.

00:38:05.460 Like, can we not sit back?

00:38:09.120 Because you're like, you know, you just say, hey, come hang out, have some food.

00:38:13.180 Next thing you know, you're dead, right?

00:38:14.760 But this is what we do with cancel culture, like people who speak out.

00:38:18.980 So the truck convoy, I could care less about it, right?

00:38:24.000 But people are engaging in protests.

00:38:29.160 I don't know if you have anything equivalent to the First Amendment up in Canada.

00:38:33.080 But this is a peaceful protest.

00:38:34.720 Yeah.

00:38:35.220 But this is peaceful protest.

00:38:36.860 This is freedom of speech, bro.

00:38:38.860 And you're freezing people's bank accounts.

00:38:40.580 It's like these governments are really going too far.

00:38:44.240 They're truly, they're really going too far.

00:38:46.780 And I think that these politicians are getting away with so much because they have us caught

00:38:54.940 up in hating one another.

00:38:57.260 You understand?

00:38:58.540 Like, I know that if somebody called me the N-word, I might break their jaw, right?

00:39:04.600 But at the end of the day, I know the average white person is not oppressing me.

00:39:11.260 I know they benefit from this system.

00:39:14.920 But when I look at everything in its totality, there are systems.

00:39:19.900 This is systemic racism.

00:39:21.420 I seek to dismantle that.

00:39:24.860 Like, I could care less about how a person feels about me. 0.98

00:39:27.360 There's a lot of black people who don't like me. 0.96

00:39:29.240 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:39:30.020 So whatever.

00:39:31.940 I'm sorry.

00:39:32.400 I'm rambling.

00:39:32.740 I'm like, that's okay.

00:39:34.140 It's what you're here for.

00:39:35.520 Eric, ramble on, as they say.

00:39:38.480 What about all this leading into the midterms as well?

00:39:42.140 Well, first thing I want to say, I think it's a little bit ironic, right?

00:39:47.280 It's kind of funny that some of the news we hear about the National Organization, you know,

00:39:55.920 buying mansions and stuff, it's just a little bit ironic that we want people to invest in a

00:40:02.320 black bank.

00:40:02.760 It's like, well, these people were just spending the money, and they weren't really telling

00:40:06.760 the truth about it.

00:40:07.520 So that makes me a little bit nervous about it. 1.00

00:40:09.980 That's a stupid thing I've ever heard. 0.99

00:40:11.500 No, I'm just saying. 1.00

00:40:12.380 It's just ironic.

00:40:13.820 You're comparing a nonprofit to a bank. 1.00

00:40:15.620 That's stupid. 1.00

00:40:16.100 That's dumb. 1.00

00:40:16.540 It's just ironic. 1.00

00:40:17.920 You're comparing a nonprofit to a bank.

00:40:20.900 There is no honor.

00:40:22.060 All I'm saying, it's just. 1.00

00:40:23.240 It's sheer stupidity. 1.00

00:40:24.100 It's just ironic. 1.00

00:40:25.740 It's like, oh, well, these people are spending the money that we donated.

00:40:30.720 A Fortune 500 company.

00:40:31.220 And we're not telling the truth about it.

00:40:32.820 Oh, my God.

00:40:34.040 See what I mean?

00:40:35.140 Like, if you want to talk about.

00:40:36.340 If you want to talk about people spending money.

00:40:39.260 So, everybody's corrupt.

00:40:41.160 Oh, my God.

00:40:41.920 So, it's just kind of funny.

00:40:44.740 Do you know what a golden parachute is?

00:40:45.520 And then the next thing is.

00:40:46.800 I wanted to ask you what a golden parachute is.

00:40:49.680 I can't finish my point.

00:40:54.620 I was just saying.

00:40:55.880 It's kind of funny.

00:40:56.660 I'm not, you know, I'm not saying, you know.

00:41:00.600 Golden parachute, Olivia, if you want to come back to me.

00:41:03.340 Golden parachute, very prominent around where I grew up.

00:41:05.940 And I was mentioning this the other day, I believe.

00:41:08.900 Yeah.

00:41:09.340 In my city where I grew up, a lot of people work for a car plant.

00:41:13.920 And pretty much everybody had the job in the whole city, if you want to say everybody.

00:41:18.020 And they got this golden parachute, which is a full pension, full medical and dental for the rest of their lives.

00:41:23.300 And even free car vouchers.

00:41:25.180 And, you know, a lot of people come up after them.

00:41:26.880 And they're just like, these people have it so easy.

00:41:28.480 They own all the property in our city.

00:41:30.680 We have to work much harder for it.

00:41:31.840 Now, explain that from a CEO from an executive level.

00:41:36.940 Chase.

00:41:37.340 Chase.

00:41:37.820 Chase.

00:41:38.740 What the CEO of Chase's golden parachute looks like.

00:41:42.840 I don't know.

00:41:43.260 And then you'll understand how.

00:41:44.700 Okay.

00:41:45.120 We're talking about $10 to $15 million.

00:41:48.540 Right?

00:41:49.100 So you're comparing people who run a bank, who are given incentives, who make seven to eight figures a year.

00:41:57.820 And then when they leave, they get something ridiculous in the seven to eight to nine figures.

00:42:04.980 You're comparing those people to non-profits.

00:42:08.960 So you're comparing an industry where people are giving tons of things to buy a bunch of property, to buy whatever they want, to people who aren't really supposed to be having that much money. 0.97

00:42:20.240 It makes no fucking sense, bro. 1.00

00:42:23.280 It's stupidity. 1.00

00:42:24.060 No, what I'm saying is it's kind of funny. 1.00

00:42:25.740 Headache.

00:42:26.420 No, what I'm saying is it's kind of funny.

00:42:30.060 It's kind of funny that we talk about how everybody's corrupt and this organization has been misspending the money.

00:42:35.580 And then, you know, the answer is it's like, well, don't trust them, but trust us.

00:42:40.520 That's all I'm saying.

00:42:41.120 No, no, no, no, we're saying is black banks, if you go there, you won't get discriminated against.

00:42:48.700 Make it make sense. 1.00

00:42:49.560 I feel like I'm talking to a fucking five-year-old, bro. 0.99

00:42:52.200 We won't get discriminated against. 0.99

00:42:54.760 So, I mean, but white people can go there, too.

00:42:57.000 Are they discriminated against?

00:42:58.240 You go somewhere and you build up your community.

00:43:01.320 Oh, here we go.

00:43:02.840 No, well, you said discrimination.

00:43:04.800 You're from Brooklyn, right?

00:43:06.040 You're familiar with.

00:43:07.000 No, I'm not.

00:43:07.860 No, I'm not.

00:43:08.860 No, I'm not from Brooklyn.

00:43:09.860 Well, you lived in Brooklyn.

00:43:11.120 You're familiar with Hasidic communities, right?

00:43:13.520 They have their schools.

00:43:15.140 They have their ambulances.

00:43:17.140 They have their banks.

00:43:18.340 They have their businesses.

00:43:19.620 These are extremely insulated communities that do business with everyone else.

00:43:24.300 These are thriving communities.

00:43:25.660 What I'm proposing is that for black people, but automatically you throw some sort of shade on there in a very short word.

00:43:32.400 No, well, you said discrimination.

00:43:34.200 In an immature way.

00:43:35.040 You said the word discrimination, so I just wanted to.

00:43:37.380 Yes.

00:43:38.500 So that's what, that's all.

00:43:39.780 I mean, the point.

00:43:41.900 Discrimination what?

00:43:42.260 You're stuttering because you realize you're not making a good point.

00:43:44.760 No, I'm saying that discrimination can go both ways.

00:43:48.140 So maybe that's not the term that you should use.

00:43:50.920 All right. 0.92

00:43:51.380 What do black people own where they discriminate? 0.97

00:43:56.200 What do black people own? 1.00

00:43:57.640 They don't own the national teams they play for. 0.98

00:43:59.880 They don't own the record companies.

00:44:02.060 They don't own the banks. 0.99

00:44:03.500 They don't own the, what the fuck? 1.00

00:44:05.460 That's how they be like, oh, black people, racist. 1.00

00:44:07.540 Like how? 0.99

00:44:08.400 What power do they have?

00:44:09.200 No, I didn't say that.

00:44:10.460 Listen.

00:44:10.780 All I'm saying is that maybe discrimination isn't the word to be used in that particular situation.

00:44:15.140 With IQs that reach triple digits.

00:44:18.920 Okay.

00:44:19.480 We can agree on that.

00:44:20.560 Okay.

00:44:21.400 Can you promise that?

00:44:22.380 That you'll bring people in the future who IQs reach triple digits?

00:44:26.180 Can we agree to that, bro?

00:44:27.600 If not, I think we can definitely agree on that.

00:44:29.540 I could have been doing yoga, bro.

00:44:31.200 I could have been doing yoga.

00:44:32.180 Let's be nice before we leave Hawk Newsome, BLM greater New York co-founder.

00:44:38.440 Of course, check out his merchandise, and we'll put the link on the screen.

00:44:42.320 Eric Butler, TatumReport.com.

00:44:44.100 Thank you for joining us.

00:44:45.180 Buy his book.

00:44:45.860 We'll put that on screen right after.

00:44:47.640 Thank you both for going on.

00:44:48.420 His book is written in crayons.

00:44:51.000 No, it's all photos.

00:44:53.800 Back to me, Olivia.

00:44:55.060 It's all photos.

00:44:56.580 Back to me, Olivia.

00:44:57.480 Thank you.

00:44:58.120 Thanks, everybody, for watching.

00:44:59.540 RebelNewsPlus.com.

00:45:00.520 We love you guys for subscribing.

00:45:02.560 Hawk Newsome, Eric Butler, getting along.

00:45:04.840 We'll send them both cards after this.

00:45:06.740 See you next week, guys.

00:45:07.580 I awake through the night, wonder how you are.

00:45:14.100 And in my dreams, break the seams, tearing us apart.

00:45:23.860 I'm holding on way too long, and I don't know why.

00:45:27.920 But you know me, I go quiet, I don't like to lie.

Rebel News Podcast - April 22, 2022

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Protests, Mansions and Policing： Hawk Newsome (BLM) & Eric Butler (Tatum Report)

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