Rebel News Podcast - ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Sheila Gunn Reid on the Conservative Wasteland

00:00:00.000 Sheila Gunn-Reed is the host of The Gun Show and chief reporter for Rebel News.

00:00:10.240 She's covered countless national stories and is a best-selling author,

00:00:13.820 writing books like Stop, Notley, and The Destroyers.

00:00:16.820 Thank you so much for joining me, Sheila Gunn-Reed. How are you?

00:00:20.080 Hi, what a pleasure and joy to be on the show. I've never been on your show before. This is fun.

00:00:24.520 I wanted to sort of save it for further down the road so we can have landmark episodes.

00:00:30.520 You know, I've got plans for David Menzies, Ezra Levant, and I don't know who else.

00:00:35.860 Maybe producer Justin we can have on one day. So who knows?

00:00:38.800 So I always want to make it a special moment.

00:00:41.580 The first thing I wanted to ask you, Sheila, I was trying to think of what things would a Rebel fan,

00:00:46.340 or rewinding back to before I worked for Rebel News, questions that I would want to ask you.

00:00:50.740 My first question to you is, how did you get hired by Rebel News?

00:00:53.960 How did you start reporting for this company?

00:00:58.380 First off, I appreciate your kind words, but I know you had a last-minute cancellation.

00:01:03.440 You can't tell the audience that.

00:01:06.300 Oh, you know, we're nothing if not honest with our audience.

00:01:09.980 You know, how I started with Rebel News is, I guess, it's the story of the company itself.

00:01:16.820 We sort of fill a void that we think the mainstream media isn't filling.

00:01:22.300 So back in 2015, it was before Justin Trudeau was elected.

00:01:27.780 I was sort of a citizen activist.

00:01:31.180 You know, I had worked on a few election campaigns just as a volunteer or whatever.

00:01:37.280 And so I was active in political circles.

00:01:39.820 But in the lead-up to the election of Justin Trudeau, I felt like the mainstream media wasn't doing the research on Justin Trudeau's candidates that they were doing on the Conservatives.

00:01:55.160 Because, you know, the mainstream media, they really do all the opposition research on behalf of the Liberals anyways.

00:02:01.380 But they weren't turning that sort of attention to the Liberals themselves.

00:02:06.300 So I thought, you know what, I'm a mom.

00:02:09.300 I'm not particularly, or I wasn't at the time, particularly tech-savvy.

00:02:13.280 But I could sure search somebody's Twitter feed.

00:02:17.020 And I started doing that.

00:02:18.740 I started just picking off Liberal candidates.

00:02:22.980 And, you know, in writings where I knew, lunacy is rife.

00:02:27.200 So, you know, you'd go and search the Liberal candidates in some of the BC writings where you know they're radical green wackadoos and, you know, supporting anti-pipeline protests.

00:02:39.860 When the Liberals tell us on paper they support oil and gas and pipelines and stuff like that.

00:02:44.300 But they were running these candidates that didn't.

00:02:47.400 And it ultimately ended up, my research actually ended up getting a Liberal candidate in Alberta nuked.

00:02:55.560 It was Michelle Rempel's Liberal opposition in Nose Hill. 0.56

00:03:00.440 Funny story, she had actually tweeted some pretty anti-Jewish stuff about our boss, Ezra Levant.

00:03:08.900 Like, telling him to go back to Israel. 0.52

00:03:10.820 And it was like, I'm pretty sure he was born here, by the way.

00:03:14.960 And so were his parents.

00:03:17.080 So, you know, I just dug that up.

00:03:19.460 And I was just retweeting things and dumping it onto my Twitter feed.

00:03:24.740 And this got picked up nationally.

00:03:27.960 She ended up having to be removed as a candidate. 0.99

00:03:31.720 And the Globe and Mail, I think, or McLean's, it doesn't really matter.

00:03:35.820 It's all the same.

00:03:36.640 But the mainstream media were running these stories about me as a large C researcher, as in I worked for the party.

00:03:45.640 And that wasn't the case.

00:03:46.800 It was just a citizen activist doing their job, they being the mainstream media.

00:03:51.380 And even in reporting on the things that I had been doing, they were still getting this story wrong because they didn't even bother to reach out to me to say, you know, are you doing this because you work for the party?

00:04:02.600 Are you doing this just for funsies?

00:04:04.200 Which I was.

00:04:05.080 So, you know, I think our boss sort of saw that, what I was doing and a couple other people were doing.

00:04:14.760 And he reached out to me when he started Rebel News.

00:04:20.600 And at the time, my littlest one wasn't in school full time.

00:04:25.680 So that wasn't the deal my family signed up for.

00:04:28.000 So I said, you know, I can't do it right now.

00:04:29.900 But when September rolled around and she did start school full time, my excuse and delays to go back to having a normal job and not being a stay-at-home mom, that sort of ran out.

00:04:43.220 And then Ezra contacted me again, and I didn't have a reason to say no.

00:04:47.780 And it's really, it's been a love affair since with the company.

00:04:51.200 And then Justin Trudeau gave you what you wanted, which was his, what would it be now, almost seven years of pure love and joy.

00:04:59.240 At least it's equal, Sheila.

00:05:00.840 At least it's, remember the It's 2015 line was such a mainstream media hit.

00:05:07.220 It's 2015, you guys.

00:05:09.060 Yeah.

00:05:09.340 Now, fast forward another year to 2016, which is, of course, when Trump caused people to break their brains and spill it all over the sidewalk.

00:05:18.520 It was a crazy time here as just a viewer.

00:05:22.980 I want to get inside your head of how it was to work here.

00:05:26.460 You had all these crazy personalities, of course.

00:05:28.720 You had the Tommy Robinsons, the McInneses, the Southerns, all these people, the Milos, all these people coming through.

00:05:37.040 Everybody's blowing up in terms of following, getting banned from everywhere.

00:05:41.480 What was it like to, you know, the company for it to explode so massively so quickly and everybody, including yourself, all of a sudden have this huge fan base internationally from UK to Australia to Canada to the US?

00:05:55.920 You know, it was weird.

00:05:57.260 I think we were in the right time at exactly the right place.

00:06:00.820 I like to think here at Rebel News, we're early adopters of good ideas.

00:06:05.620 And we just sat through an hour long staff meeting this morning where we have these big plans and big dreams.

00:06:12.000 And, you know, like we get this idea and we just do it and we'll figure out the details afterwards.

00:06:17.240 And that seems to be working for us so far.

00:06:20.080 And that's what 2016 was kind of like.

00:06:23.620 We, you know, like we, it was the Brexit was happening and Trump was getting elected.

00:06:29.600 And it was just a strange time to be in conservative politics and in conservative news.

00:06:37.820 And in Canada, we were really the only ones at the time.

00:06:41.820 Now we have, you know, True North and Postmillennial popped up.

00:06:44.640 But I still think we do something completely unique and different because we couple our news and journalism with activism.

00:06:51.580 So we do something where we come to tell the story.

00:06:56.140 But instead of just telling the story, which for me can feel kind of like we're exploiting the story, I'm proud that we do something different in that if we are able to offer help in a solution, we do that.

00:07:07.300 But we, again, going back to we were in the right time at the right place, doing the right thing, fighting the right battles.

00:07:13.420 If you look at the United States, they're very saturated with conservative news outlets, big and small, right?

00:07:20.540 The largest cable news channel is a conservative one.

00:07:23.560 It's Fox News.

00:07:24.660 But here in Canada, it was just us.

00:07:26.460 We were in a wasteland.

00:07:27.580 And because of that, because we had this unique Canadian perspective, but also we were so free speechy and we cared to fight the fights for free speech and tell the stories that the mainstream media were either scared to tell or didn't want the opposing narrative out there because we were willing to do those things.

00:07:47.820 We just sort of went huge.

00:07:50.220 It just blew up overnight.

00:07:51.440 We went from, you know, maybe a few tens of thousands of people who were interested in what we were having to say to, you know, approaching a million.

00:08:01.260 Did your life change at all in that time span?

00:08:03.520 Like I said, all these people, all these characters, yourself included, all of a sudden you've got 50,000 individual followers, a million people watching.

00:08:12.560 I remember there was a time where in my life where every single rebel news video that came out and I'm clearly wasn't alone in this.

00:08:20.280 We were just like, what, what were they going to do next?

00:08:22.680 What was the next, like legitimately edgy thing that was going to happen?

00:08:27.260 Because there, like you said, there was nobody else doing this stuff, especially not in Canada.

00:08:30.780 Did your life change?

00:08:32.100 Did you start getting more recognized on the streets?

00:08:35.220 What changed in your life?

00:08:36.620 Because there had to have been this huge influx of attention towards you, wasn't there?

00:08:42.560 There wasn't, there wasn't.

00:08:44.640 I don't know.

00:08:45.640 I think I'm kind of in a unique position because of where I live and my lifestyle and things like that.

00:08:53.920 While I'm the forward face of my family, my husband's kind of private.

00:08:58.220 Every day somebody at his work puts together the fact that we have the same last name and that we're married.

00:09:04.140 Like they're still discovering who he's married to and, you know, it's six and a little bit years later.

00:09:08.540 Um, in Alberta, yeah, I do get recognized, um, more often than not, it's at the grocery store, the farm supply store, naturally.

00:09:16.420 Um, it's, I guess my life changed, but not really because I'm, I'm still, you know, a farmer.

00:09:24.620 I'm still a farmer's wife.

00:09:25.960 My husband is still in the oil patch.

00:09:27.580 I try to keep work and life separate.

00:09:30.280 Um, but I guess maybe for some of the other talent who were doing these big international stories and I've done some of them for me, I always tried to use my platform.

00:09:42.080 And I think I still do this to, uh, advocate for the normals of the world.

00:09:46.380 You know, in 2016, for example, Rachel Notley brought in this crazy bill called bill six, and it basically put bankers hours are on Alberta family farms.

00:09:58.580 And for me, I saw the mainstream media coverage of this is like, oh yeah, you know, these poor exploited farm workers, the NDP are going to help them.

00:10:07.080 And I'm like, no, the poor exploited farm workers are literally my kids back off.

00:10:11.560 And, you know, I felt like for some of the stories that I covered because of where I am and how I live and my, the people who live in my family and the job that my husband has and the job that my dad had.

00:10:25.680 I felt like I have been uniquely, uh, equipped to tell Alberta stories in a way that you're not going to get from people who are in a cubicle in Calgary or Toronto or Vancouver sometimes who are reporting on Alberta news.

00:10:41.560 And so for me, that's sort of where my focus has been.

00:10:45.980 So those people like farmers, rig hands, they'll notice me, but like if I'm traveling in Toronto or whatever, nobody knows who I am.

00:10:53.120 Um, and also I think it has a lot to do with how I look and how I dress.

00:10:55.860 I look like everybody else's soccer mom.

00:10:58.000 So, I mean, there's some benefit to being ordinary.

00:11:03.560 Chevy Astrovan getting a big plug with you, I think.

00:11:06.680 I want to parlay that to a Canadian story that's been high on your radar.

00:11:12.380 You've reported a lot of it along with our Alberta and BC reporters.

00:11:16.000 It's the burn churches. 0.50

00:11:17.240 And the reason I bring this up is because it gets so little coverage, um, 65 relatively unspoken of church vandalisms or burnings across the country.

00:11:27.620 What does the lack of coverage here?

00:11:29.660 And this is me as a non-religious person saying this.

00:11:32.520 What does the lack of coverage say about our media in this country?

00:11:35.900 Uh, well, it says that they think the actual victims here are deserving of what's happening to them.

00:11:45.320 And it also speaks a lot to how, uh, I guess the secular ism in the mainstream media.

00:11:54.040 They really don't understand who uses these churches.

00:12:00.080 For example, Drea covered a Coptic church that was burned in the lower mainland.

00:12:07.120 And if anybody knows anything about Copts, they are some of the most persecuted people in Egypt.

00:12:13.780 Their churches are routinely burned during Holy Week.

00:12:16.960 So when you flee to Canada, you think that you're going to be, uh, safe from your churches being burned.

00:12:23.160 And yet they are because we have the, this spate of arsonist terrorism, uh, directed at Christian churches.

00:12:31.060 Um, you know, when you have the prime minister saying things like, I don't agree with it, but I understand why it's happening.

00:12:41.540 Um, and the mainstream media completely reporting that uncritically, like, no, you should have just stopped everything you said before, but was the right thing to say.

00:12:50.580 Um, you know, you're, you're putting blame on the innocent people who use these churches.

00:12:55.880 Adam Sose right now, I think literally as we're filming this, he's out at a church on Siksika land.

00:13:03.240 So that's no, sorry, not Siksika.

00:13:05.680 Tutsina, wrong reserve, just outside of Calgary.

00:13:08.560 He's helping put a roof back on the church.

00:13:11.340 So while the mainstream media is sort of cheering on or, uh, doing their best to understand the motives of the arsonist, much the way, you know, like we need to find out the root causes of terrorism.

00:13:25.120 That's another famous thing.

00:13:26.360 Justin Trudeau said, we're actually doing something to help these communities that are so often indigenous communities.

00:13:33.180 Um, and I think that's where the real disconnect is.

00:13:35.720 The mainstream media sees, um, religion as this colonial thing that is oppressing indigenous people when these are indigenous people of faith and their churches are being burned down.

00:13:50.680 And that's, I think the difference between what we do and what the mainstream media does, where we're actually going to talk to the people who use the churches instead of going to talk to the paid, uh, person who rings the alarm bell of colonialism every time they need somebody to do that on the CBC or on global news.

00:14:12.280 Yeah, I think it does, uh, uh, native people, uh, extreme disservice in the way this stuff is reported on and the way their whole history is presented in conjunction with, you know, subtler colonization history.

00:14:26.620 It almost cheapens the society that, that, that was created through colonization and through working with native tribes.

00:14:35.120 Um, you can even go as far as to talk about residential schools if you want.

00:14:39.420 There's never any two sides given to that story.

00:14:42.160 It's always sort of told through this, you know, it's, it's silly, almost silly to say, but it's literally through this communist, uh, purview where everything is just, uh, we're, we've come here to destroy this land.

00:14:55.100 To, to take everything from it when that couldn't be further from the case.

00:14:58.600 And it also presents, uh, a side of innocence on the, on the side of people who are here already.

00:15:03.880 And that's not the case.

00:15:04.920 There's two sides to both stories and I don't think it's presented properly.

00:15:08.760 I don't think there's a differentiation between, uh, different colonists and different tribes who act in completely different ways, uh, different subtler groups, different, uh, different native groups who may have been at war with one another or who may have worked with subtlers.

00:15:23.920 So it's all this literal white socialist communist whitewashing of it, where everything's just black and white and it's oppressors and the oppressed.

00:15:33.080 And that's the theme I think we see in pretty much every story that's told from that point of view.

00:15:37.540 Just my opinion there.

00:15:38.920 The next thing I want to talk to you about is something we get a lot of questions in myself personally, because we do cover the alternate, uh, parties.

00:15:46.700 I'll call them just because they pull or get a lot less votes.

00:15:49.500 Uh, rebel news, we cover them, the Mavericks, um, forgive me, the wild rose.

00:15:55.000 I'm not sure how much coverage, uh, they're getting the PPC, of course, and even the green party.

00:16:00.040 If they want to talk to us, we'll talk to them, even if they are a literal globalist party.

00:16:04.980 Um, what's your opinion on this?

00:16:06.860 I'm, I'm, you have a lot of influence in your province.

00:16:09.560 Do people come to you with this idea of why are you splitting the vote by covering this?

00:16:13.620 Or why are you splitting the vote by criticizing Erin O'Toole?

00:16:16.620 What's your response to that sort of point of view?

00:16:19.540 Well, the first thing I would say is, look, I don't work for your preferred politician of choice.

00:16:24.900 I work for the people.

00:16:26.180 Um, and I'm not, I'm not cheering for any particular politician.

00:16:31.360 I'm cheering for the people in, in this case, the people of Alberta.

00:16:35.520 So, um, for people who say, well, if, if you're critical of Erin O'Toole, you must support the PPC, or if you are critical of federalism, then you must support the Mavericks.

00:16:46.960 And why can't I say, actually, I'm in support of good ideas.

00:16:51.560 Um, and for me, somebody who has, you know, built a life out of mostly nothing, uh, and I think the best way for me to do that is through conservative principles.

00:17:02.120 Um, that's where, uh, that's where I am, um, with regard to my politics and, and that sort of stuff.

00:17:08.320 But yeah, we get a lot of people who say, well, if you support the PPC, you're splitting the vote.

00:17:14.800 When you drive people to the PPC, you're splitting the vote.

00:17:19.400 Um, it, it's really interesting to watch the, and this is one of the things that I brought up during the leaders debate last time.

00:17:28.420 It was my question to everybody, uh, that, you know, Andrew Scheer oversaw the splitting and eruption of the party into the two sort of factions of PPC and the conservatives.

00:17:44.460 And my question to the leader, prospective leadership candidates at the time was, what are you going to do to fix that?

00:17:51.660 Because when you talk to PPCers, they haven't changed.

00:17:55.960 They still hold those fundamental, fundamental conservative principles that they held when they were the conservative base.

00:18:05.180 These people were part of the conservative base, reliable donors, door knockers, activists, but they've been driven out of the party.

00:18:12.700 And for me, I said to them, what are you going to do to bring them back?

00:18:16.480 Because we know that Andrew Scheer hired a literal liberal mercenary to malign these people in the mainstream media, paint them as extremists, paint them as white supremacists.

00:18:28.700 When just a few short months earlier, they were within the party getting phone calls saying, give us money, reliable conservative donor. 0.98

00:18:38.380 And that was fine back then, but because they left the party, they were treated like garbage and I still see it.

00:18:44.640 So if there is a conservative vote split, that is squarely on the conservative party itself because they've had a lot of time to fix this problem. 0.91

00:18:54.460 But instead of being, for lack of a better term, ecumenical with them, to reach out across the table to say, you know what, I'm not Andrew Scheer.

00:19:03.140 Things are going to be different. 0.97

00:19:04.520 You see conservative partisans still treating the PPCers and the Mavericks and anybody else like a pile of garbage. 0.68

00:19:13.300 And it shouldn't be that way because you can't berate these people, lie about them, paint them as extremists, and then hold them accountable for your loss because they didn't vote for you. 0.92

00:19:25.520 And that's what I see happening.

00:19:27.040 Yeah, and my opinion on that is for people to vote for what they actually believe in, not to vote against somebody else, which I know is hard for people to conceptualize when they're so displeased with a Joe Biden or a Justin Trudeau or whomever it may be in your part of the world or region.

00:19:46.820 But I think it's best to vote based on your conscience and what you believe in, and then hopefully those ideas take a foothold and they grow and they grow and they grow.

00:19:56.300 And that's just my opinion.

00:19:57.620 Vote Andrew says.

00:19:58.120 Sorry, I just want to add to that because I think I have a unique perspective with that because I'm in Alberta.

00:20:06.540 So for us, it's far easier to vote for your conscience because basically the election is over by the time the 905 votes are counted.

00:20:17.340 So we can go completely blue, conservative, like we did last time, and it didn't matter.

00:20:23.440 We were just this big blue chunk of the country out here being treated like a colony of Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal.

00:20:31.680 And so when you realize that you, you know, like it doesn't matter, everything's decided for you before the 905 is counted, then vote for who you feel like.

00:20:44.140 Vote for the people who earned your vote because at least, you know what, if you're going to be governed by your colonial overlords, at least come by it honestly.

00:20:53.320 You know, go down swinging.

00:20:55.120 There's still time for you to vote Blanc-Quebec-Croix, Sheila.

00:20:58.620 I'm very sympathetic to them these days.

00:21:01.680 Oh, my father will be proud of you.

00:21:03.700 What I want to ask you is what do we do with our government moving forward through the whole lockdown, what era I'll call it?

00:21:11.980 We've seen, you know, politicians ignore the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, ignore freedom of speech, ignore freedom of movement.

00:21:19.760 Judges, as we've seen in some cases without being particular, just say, no, we don't want to hear that.

00:21:24.960 Much like what's happened in the election, for example, in the U.S.

00:21:28.120 We don't even want to see anything.

00:21:30.040 We don't want to hear anything.

00:21:31.300 It all gets thrown out.

00:21:32.660 Is there a way or a change that we can make moving forward that gets rid of what appears to be bias at the highest level, political bias?

00:21:41.320 Is there anything we can do to make the country system better?

00:21:44.660 Do you have any ideas or thoughts on that?

00:21:47.160 You know, for me, this starts a lot closer to home if we're worried about Charter rights.

00:21:51.680 I think, if anything, that conservatives should learn over the past two years, but maybe four years if we look at the culture war.

00:22:02.160 It's that we need and we have the greatest ability, especially as, again, I look at this through an Alberta lens because we're controlled by our colonial overlords in Laurentia.

00:22:12.020 If we really want to make change, I think it starts a lot closer to home.

00:22:18.020 If we are worried about our children being brainwashed to be future liberal NDP voters, whatever, then why aren't we involved in the school board?

00:22:27.880 Why aren't we making sure that conservatives are on the school board, people who believe in parental autonomy?

00:22:33.320 I think these battles start a lot sooner.

00:22:38.140 And I realize that, you know, it's going to be a long time to undo what's currently happening, but we have to start somewhere.

00:22:45.780 And the quickest way to make change is closer to home.

00:22:48.180 For example, all the mask mandates in Alberta right now, because the provincial government removed everything July 1st, we've been living free here.

00:22:56.220 But now the municipalities are bringing them back in.

00:23:00.120 Edmonton is considered, Edmonton has done it.

00:23:03.620 Calgary is considering it.

00:23:05.200 The municipality that I live in, they are bringing it back.

00:23:09.520 It's such an emergency.

00:23:10.580 They're bringing it in on September 10th, you see.

00:23:13.500 And so, you know, those are politicians that you can easily oust.

00:23:19.240 And they're the ones that you have the closest contact with.

00:23:21.800 So, I think for me, the best way to change what we've all lived through is that we cannot have walked off the field of municipal politics.

00:23:33.600 And we know that municipal politics is sort of this breeding ground of people who just have aspirations of greater power.

00:23:40.740 You start off on city council, and then you end up as an MLA or MPP.

00:23:46.000 And then eventually you end up in federal politics.

00:23:48.300 It's the farm team route, right?

00:23:50.700 So, you know, you have to fix the farm team before they get to be an MP and have vast control over your life.

00:23:58.580 For me, I think that's the one wake-up call that conservatives should have, is that we walked off the field of municipal politics a long time ago.

00:24:05.960 And we've seen the tyranny of municipal politics over the last bit of the pandemic.

00:24:11.600 So, we have to get involved and we have to make change.

00:24:13.800 And I know here in Alberta, October 2nd, no, yes, October 2nd, I think, is our municipal elections.

00:24:21.160 And so, I think it's time to hold some of the locker-downers on municipal councils responsible for the things they've done to people

00:24:29.000 and the civil liberties they've harmed over the last 18 months to years.

00:24:32.840 A lot of that advice can be used for the Edmonton Oilers as well, Sheila.

00:24:37.260 It's true.

00:24:37.980 Get your minor leagues and your front office in line.

00:24:41.360 Last question I want to ask you before we run out of time is about your haters.

00:24:45.640 Haters.

00:24:46.240 Haters.

00:24:46.640 We can call it that.

00:24:47.560 You haters.

00:24:48.060 Haters.

00:24:49.380 You know, I'm relatively new here.

00:24:53.040 My hatred is still just blind nothingness. 0.94

00:24:57.020 It's what I get is just you're a fascist or something like that.

00:25:00.900 It's never content-based.

00:25:02.140 Is there anything that keeps popping up from your haters that amuses you, that maybe they have a point?

00:25:09.120 Anything that's consistent across the type of criticisms that you get?

00:25:13.420 Or is it just all funny?

00:25:15.460 Well, it is all funny, but I think a lot of the criticism I get is very classist.

00:25:21.780 You know, what does somebody like me have to say about anything, right?

00:25:26.020 Like somebody like me who has a stay-at-home mom, farmer, wife of a rig hand, or at least he's in the oil patch.

00:25:33.360 You know, someone who drives a pickup, you know, has dirty fingernails. 1.00

00:25:39.220 A lot of it is classist.

00:25:40.880 Like, what would I have to say about what people who are poor, what they need to no longer be poor?

00:25:48.140 Or what would I have to say about, you know, how it is for women's rights, because I'm not some fancy person with a degree in feminist literature.

00:25:59.020 I think that's a lot of it, but I think that's a real problem with how the rest of the country also looks at Alberta.

00:26:07.920 It's like, look at those hillbillies with their money.

00:26:10.720 How dare you feed people and give them energy, Sheila Gunn-Wood? 0.60

00:26:14.100 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:14.420 Why do those people have any political power? 0.99

00:26:19.220 Two generations ago, they were dirt poor.

00:26:21.560 And so, you know, you get a lot of that classist looking down their nose.

00:26:24.620 For me, I get a lot of that, but I also enjoy how I irritate my haters.

00:26:31.620 I very rarely block them, but I do mute them, because I think it's important for them to see what I'm saying and scream into the ether while I pretend like they're dead to me.

00:26:42.300 That I enjoy, and I hope they know that.

00:26:44.780 This is where we show the footage, stock footage, of your daughter throwing rocks as if she's your slave or something.

00:26:50.900 We know she hates that.

00:26:52.240 Really quick before we go, Sheila, are you ever going to run for public office?

00:26:55.840 I know everyone always wants to know that.

00:26:58.580 Never.

00:26:59.300 Never.

00:27:00.160 I know that, you know, there's some pressure even internally for me to do something like that.

00:27:05.600 From me.

00:27:06.100 But, yeah, well, from you, from David, from higher up the supply chain.

00:27:10.440 But I think it's really important work that we do here at Rebel News to work from without the system, outside the system, to hold our, not just liberal politicians, but our conservative politicians to account.

00:27:25.800 Doug Ford's a great example of this.

00:27:27.320 So, all the forces are pulling our conservative politicians to the left.

00:27:32.280 You've got CBC, the mainstream media, lobbyists, internal power-hungry insider hacks, crony capitalists.

00:27:42.300 They're all pulling our conservative politicians to the left.

00:27:46.100 Who's pulling them back right?

00:27:47.440 I think it should be us and us as amplifiers of the voices of the people and the electorate.

00:27:55.500 So, I think the best way for me to influence politics is to make sure our conservative politicians stay a little bit more conservative.

00:28:04.720 Sheila Gunn-Reed will try again in a few years.

00:28:07.100 Sheila 2032 is what my shirt will say, just to give me some time in case the campaign does happen.

00:28:12.420 And thanks a lot for joining me.

00:28:13.740 It's a pleasure to work with you and speak with you always, even though, you know, you're crushing my political dreams for you.

00:28:20.220 Any last words, Sheila?

00:28:22.420 No, not really.

00:28:23.780 Just, I'm so, you know what, though?

00:28:25.960 Let me just say, we do have the best team in, I think, in all of news media.

00:28:32.380 There's not a single person on our team who ever says, that's not my job.

00:28:36.120 We just all pitch in, we work hard, and it's especially evident during this election campaign.

00:28:40.880 So, you know what, great work to everybody on the team.

00:28:43.860 Except Dave and Menzies, of course.

00:28:45.480 Thanks a lot.

00:28:46.240 I have to add that in there, producer Justin.

00:28:48.780 Thanks a lot, Sheila.

00:28:49.560 Have a great day.

00:28:50.400 We'll catch you guys next time.

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Rebel News Podcast - September 03, 2021

ANDREW CHAPADOS ｜ Sheila Gunn Reid on the Conservative Wasteland

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