Rebel News Podcast - AVI YEMINI ｜ Aussie PM's security flaws EXPOSED in Melbourne

00:00:00.200 In today's episode of the Yamini Report, I have invited my very own bodyguard,

00:00:05.440 who is making headlines across the country as the mainstream media attempt to paint him as some sort of violent extremist

00:00:12.300 for daring to express his opinion to a very, very powerful man in the lead-up to the election.

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00:01:05.720 What a week it has been on the campaign trail.

00:01:08.520 Again, the Prime Minister has been confronted by the daring voting public, this time in Melbourne.

00:01:15.460 Watch.

00:01:15.860 Mr Albanese, I have a question for you on behalf of hundreds of thousands of Australians around the country.

00:01:25.820 Hi.

00:01:27.240 There are hundreds of thousands of Australians around the country who are unable to afford housing.

00:01:32.840 And I have a question for you, Mr Albanese.

00:01:34.960 When are you going to put Australians first?

00:01:37.740 Albanese, when are you going to put Australians first?

00:01:39.840 That's enough.

00:01:40.460 Thanks, mate.

00:01:40.800 That's enough.

00:01:41.280 Thank you.

00:01:41.760 Thank you.

00:01:42.300 I'm here to ask Albanese a question.

00:01:49.300 Albo, how do you feel about the rise in immigration, mate?

00:01:53.060 Do you think it's fair?

00:01:55.020 Thank you, sir.

00:01:55.480 Do you think it's fair?

00:01:56.760 Thank you, sir.

00:01:57.280 No, you don't need to touch me.

00:01:58.280 I'm not touching anyone.

00:02:00.160 Thank you, sir.

00:02:00.800 Yep, that's all.

00:02:01.380 I'm not touching anyone.

00:02:02.260 Thank you.

00:02:02.740 That's right.

00:02:03.080 You're not also approaching...

00:02:04.880 Why not?

00:02:05.560 I vote.

00:02:06.500 That's fine.

00:02:06.920 I've got questions.

00:02:07.580 It doesn't mean you can approach him.

00:02:08.940 Yeah, we can approach him.

00:02:09.880 That's why we vote.

00:02:10.400 Otherwise, how can I have a chat about who I'm meant to be...

00:02:13.380 In public forums.

00:02:13.940 ...closing for staying in the hotel.

00:02:15.200 We don't get public forums.

00:02:16.700 Yeah.

00:02:16.840 He doesn't attend them.

00:02:18.160 What about Penny Wong when she comes to China?

00:02:20.120 They didn't let us in.

00:02:21.500 Unfortunately, you're not staying here, so you can leave.

00:02:23.780 That's all right.

00:02:24.320 I'm happy to do that.

00:02:25.160 Thank you.

00:02:25.660 Thanks.

00:02:26.020 See you later.

00:02:26.540 No worries.

00:02:27.020 You have a good day.

00:02:27.860 Thank you.

00:02:29.360 And one of the men you heard in that clip, many of you may know.

00:02:34.600 You may recognise his voice.

00:02:36.680 Yes, it is our very own security guard that we hire to protect me in some very sticky situations.

00:02:45.400 Probably the best security guard I know in Australia, Daniel Jones, and he joins us today

00:02:49.800 on the Yamini Report.

00:02:52.320 Daniel, welcome to the show.

00:02:55.200 Thank you.

00:02:55.840 Thank you for having me on.

00:02:57.080 Well, Daniel, listen, for the last few days, I've, my, I don't know if it's just me, but

00:03:05.280 I have Google alerts on my name just to hear when haters and friends and foe talk about

00:03:13.200 me.

00:03:13.480 I like to know before I'm hit with, you know, blindsided.

00:03:18.420 So I've been pinged a few times in the last few weeks, in the last few days, and I've got

00:03:23.680 to say thank you, Daniel, because it's all got to do with you.

00:03:27.080 The media is running hit piece after hit piece.

00:03:30.580 And for some reason, tying me into it, because it's no secret, you have done some bodyguarding

00:03:39.360 or security for Rebel News over the years.

00:03:42.480 I think it's probably been a good six years in which you've done security, and we've had

00:03:48.500 a good history.

00:03:49.020 We'll talk about that in a second.

00:03:50.920 But it's almost like, look, I didn't know that you guys, I didn't even know, and I'm

00:03:55.280 here to actually, unlike the mainstream media, I want to talk to you, you could tell us what

00:03:59.040 happened, why you did it, whatever.

00:04:00.440 But the bottom line is, surprise, surprise, you have your own political views, you're your

00:04:05.480 own man.

00:04:07.160 In fact, the work you do for Rebel News is very minor compared to the actual security

00:04:14.080 work you've done and self-defense work and all the other work that you do.

00:04:17.720 But it's a shock that you have your own political worldview, isn't it?

00:04:24.160 Yeah, it's like, obviously, when I work with Rebel, I don't say any, it's not my role.

00:04:31.020 I often say to people, we've got to understand who we are, what we do and what our roles are.

00:04:37.720 So obviously, while I work for Rebel, my job is security.

00:04:40.820 So when you're talking to people, like, I don't interject, well, hang on, I've got an

00:04:45.380 opinion here.

00:04:47.300 It's just not appropriate.

00:04:49.160 But the reality is, like everybody out there, I do have my own personal views that I think

00:04:58.200 about politics and the way of the world and whatnot.

00:05:00.820 And on this particular occasion, I decided in my capacity as an individual person, separate

00:05:10.620 of Rebel News and separate of anyone else, to express those political views and ask a

00:05:17.060 question of the sitting or current sitting Prime Minister.

00:05:21.560 Look, I'm not surprised people, including you, are angry at the direction of the country

00:05:27.460 and are worried about the upcoming election and want to see the Prime Minister answer the

00:05:35.320 questions that the average Australian wants answered, not the selected few media personalities

00:05:43.140 or outlets that he chooses.

00:05:46.620 And we know, look, I too have attended press conferences with the Prime Minister and he just

00:05:53.580 ran away.

00:05:54.240 In fact, there was one at the Jewish synagogue where he told, he told the staff that he just

00:06:02.000 doesn't want to talk specifically to me, doesn't want to have to answer questions from me.

00:06:06.600 And there's that very, you know, the viral footage in which he runs away out of the synagogue

00:06:14.140 and into his car.

00:06:15.600 So I'm not surprised and I'm not surprised by the mainstream media trying to character

00:06:26.280 assassinate you over the last few days for doing it.

00:06:30.680 I'm not necessarily saying it's the way I would have done it or whatever.

00:06:33.500 And I want to hear about how you did it and how it ended up that you were, you know, hitting

00:06:40.100 the Prime Minister with questions that he had no idea was coming and he was unprepared for

00:06:44.760 and I guess it looked like he ran away.

00:06:47.300 But that's no surprise.

00:06:49.380 But are you surprised by the media's attempt to, I guess, I don't know what they're trying

00:06:56.520 to do, probably go after your gun licenses again, like in the past or something along

00:07:00.840 those lines, your security license.

00:07:02.100 Are you surprised by the mainstream media's reaction to you, what do we call it, confronting

00:07:10.980 the Prime Minister with questions?

00:07:14.260 I honestly didn't think it would get that big.

00:07:18.440 You know, it's one of those things where you're asked a question, you don't expect it to sort

00:07:23.180 of go down that road.

00:07:25.120 But I'm not surprised at all by the mainstream media.

00:07:28.180 I mean, they've done it for years and years and years to many, many, many other people.

00:07:34.200 I had a feeling once everything really blew up, sorry, that it was highly likely to happen.

00:07:42.060 The thing is, politics attracts a lot of narcissists.

00:07:47.840 And I don't know whether the people in the media are narcissists or just enabling narcissists.

00:07:53.360 Narcissists love to keep the harem of enablers.

00:07:56.000 But when they can't control the person, and obviously I'm not easily controlled, asking

00:08:03.960 questions out of turn.

00:08:05.420 So when they can't control the person, they want to control the narrative and how people

00:08:11.240 view that person.

00:08:13.320 So it doesn't surprise me at all that since, you know, I've gone up and asked a question

00:08:18.320 and they're like, oh, well, we can't control him.

00:08:20.220 He's got to do this.

00:08:21.040 Or he has done this.

00:08:23.440 So let's control how everyone sees him.

00:08:27.220 Let's call up images.

00:08:29.540 And one of the images they put in, I think it was the age, was eight odd years old, at

00:08:38.440 least.

00:08:39.140 How long?

00:08:39.680 That's the age.

00:08:40.940 And he goes, Jesus, mate, you look a bit young in that photo.

00:08:45.620 And I went, yeah, they've done pretty far looking for some stuff.

00:08:49.180 How old did you say that was?

00:08:50.540 Eight years?

00:08:51.920 I reckon one of them, because I didn't have a beard.

00:08:56.160 That was at least eight odd years old, that image.

00:08:58.980 Look, they're working hard to, I think there's two levels here, or a few levels.

00:09:07.360 They're trying to paint a picture of those who are daring to confront the Prime Minister.

00:09:11.200 And it doesn't mean everyone that, or even, for that matter, the opposition leader.

00:09:17.440 But it doesn't, you know, it doesn't mean everyone that's confronting or asking questions

00:09:21.580 or crashing press conferences or whatever, that they are good people or whatever.

00:09:25.980 It doesn't matter if the questions, I think questions are valid from whoever, but they're

00:09:29.340 trying to paint a picture that they're big, nasty, dangerous people.

00:09:35.420 And I guess in Australia, it's very easy to paint someone that way if you show some images

00:09:41.580 of them with weapons, because Australia has got, even on the Conservative side, have got

00:09:48.760 a particular view, you know, widely held view about any sort of weapons.

00:09:56.740 We'll get into that in a second.

00:09:58.080 I want to go back to what actually happened on the day.

00:10:02.240 Tell us how the idea came about, how you found out where the Prime Minister is actually going

00:10:08.880 to be, how you got so close to him, because that's insane.

00:10:13.320 You know, I'm no particular fan of the Prime Minister, but the idea that random people,

00:10:20.740 and somebody, no offence, that looks as scary as you, could get so close to him, is concerning.

00:10:27.580 Where are the security agencies?

00:10:29.240 Where are the, where is that line of protection?

00:10:33.880 And I'm not talking about to protect him from questions.

00:10:35.700 But, you know, there are unhinged people out there that, no matter which side of politics,

00:10:41.620 especially in today's current political climate, that will want to hurt the leader of the country.

00:10:47.620 And it's no good for anyone if the leader of the country, whether he's Labour or Liberal,

00:10:52.900 is physically harmed.

00:10:55.660 It would be devastating to the country.

00:10:57.660 So, I don't understand how you got so close.

00:10:59.960 Tell us from the beginning where the idea came from, and how it was actually executed,

00:11:04.460 with, if the idea was to ask him questions from a close proximity, how you were so successful

00:11:11.340 in managing to do that.

00:11:15.480 Look, I don't really know where the idea came from.

00:11:20.620 All I'll say is, on the day I happened of my own accord to walk into a hotel,

00:11:26.880 and I don't want to say what hotel, so I understand with operational security and whatnot,

00:11:32.660 I don't want to give away too many details.

00:11:36.420 Can you tell us how you knew he was going to be there?

00:11:39.360 Was it publicly announced or something?

00:11:41.100 All I'll say on that is, I walked into this hotel lobby, well, wandering around for my own accord,

00:11:52.380 and thought I wouldn't mind a coffee.

00:11:55.480 Saw this hotel, I thought, they usually serve coffee in hotels.

00:11:59.120 So, I walked straight through the lobby doors.

00:12:02.480 Now, the fact that there was several very distinguished white BMWs that all look the same in a row in the lobby

00:12:14.300 should have been a giveaway that something interesting was in the lobby.

00:12:21.240 Walked in, though, and got a coffee, sat down, flicked through Facebook.

00:12:25.580 I think the thing that's upset a lot of people is where they've talked about beefed-up security.

00:12:32.520 I literally, and I'm sure the AFP will go through the CCTV, and I'll say I'm not lying.

00:12:38.380 I did literally just walk straight through the lobby, straight, 12 o'clock, straight ahead.

00:12:45.240 And you weren't alone.

00:12:46.340 There was someone else there with you because we heard a first voice,

00:12:48.540 and then your voice kicks in.

00:12:49.700 Is that right?

00:12:50.040 Yeah, see, I was sitting downstairs on my own, enjoying my coffee,

00:12:56.400 and that's where I heard a commotion upstairs,

00:13:02.100 and I was sort of locked, eyes down, looking at the phone.

00:13:05.380 I looked up and went, oh, what's happening up there?

00:13:09.440 And I, oh, hang on.

00:13:13.320 There's somebody important here in the R lobby.

00:13:17.100 I didn't realise that.

00:13:18.840 So, yeah, it was there after that person got removed.

00:13:26.760 I thought, oh, well, I might take my opportunity

00:13:29.600 and see if I can catch up with him and ask a question myself.

00:13:33.460 So, you're telling us that by fluke you happened to be in the lobby

00:13:40.040 and you watched or you overheard a commotion of a third person,

00:13:46.120 of another person, and when that happened, you go,

00:13:51.420 oh, wow, the Prime Minister's here.

00:13:52.620 I'm going to throw a couple of questions on my own.

00:13:54.600 That's what happened.

00:13:55.580 You had no idea he was there.

00:13:56.760 Essentially, yeah, that's what happened.

00:14:03.000 Okay.

00:14:03.760 So, how did security react when you, well, you, from the video,

00:14:14.120 because we can't see any of you.

00:14:15.400 We can only kind of see the Prime Minister

00:14:17.240 and some security personnel did, so what kind of happened?

00:14:22.600 So, he was getting dragged away and then you just stepped in,

00:14:25.140 and what did the security personnel do?

00:14:28.300 Well, he got dragged away, and I think it was about 10, 15 minutes later.

00:14:34.800 So, the way the video's put together, it sort of looked like it was.

00:14:37.360 Cut, they didn't actually happen together.

00:14:40.040 No, no, no.

00:14:41.220 So, what actually happened was I approached with questions

00:14:44.560 maybe 10, 15 minutes later, give or take.

00:14:48.660 So, you seen the guy get dragged away,

00:14:50.840 and then you waited around till you could spot him again.

00:14:56.000 Oh.

00:14:56.460 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:57.220 Well, I sort of went up and saw him sitting in a,

00:15:01.580 like a little outdoor courtyard with approved media

00:15:05.700 who were allowed to ask questions.

00:15:07.600 So, he was filming an interview out there,

00:15:10.200 and I saw him out there.

00:15:11.640 I thought, oh, look, I'm not going to go trash out

00:15:14.640 while he's doing that with the media interview and whatnot.

00:15:17.880 So, I waited till they wrapped up,

00:15:19.760 and he walked through the door back into the hotel lobby.

00:15:24.860 The security come around him, and that's where I thought,

00:15:27.100 oh, I might try to approach him and ask a question

00:15:30.700 and see what happens of it.

00:15:33.620 So, I've got two questions on that.

00:15:36.640 Firstly, did you know the first guy?

00:15:40.180 No.

00:15:40.700 No, I wasn't sure who it was.

00:15:42.400 Okay.

00:15:42.880 No, it's fascinating to me because that means

00:15:45.980 they already had what they would consider a security breach,

00:15:50.400 and you managed to be sitting around that entire 15 minutes,

00:15:56.780 and no one approached you in that time?

00:15:59.280 Not a person.

00:16:02.100 Not at all.

00:16:03.700 Daniel, you were...

00:16:04.700 I think there was, oh, look, I didn't count,

00:16:11.380 but maybe five other people-ish sitting around the coffee area.

00:16:17.720 Yeah, so, I mean, it's not like there was a big amount.

00:16:20.700 There was people, obviously, patrons of the hotel,

00:16:25.640 but there wasn't many people sort of coming and going,

00:16:28.740 and it does sort of surprise me that the security did seem

00:16:34.680 like the layers of security.

00:16:37.680 There was no-one checking coming in and out the lobby door,

00:16:41.900 like, listen, do you know anyone here?

00:16:44.600 Do you have a pass to stay here and whatnot?

00:16:47.020 It was all open to the public.

00:16:49.280 The Prime Minister standing out the front

00:16:51.320 had what appeared to be two CPP officers with him,

00:16:58.120 or close protection officers.

00:17:00.240 There was possibly a couple of other people

00:17:05.660 that seemed to be running perimeter or outer checks,

00:17:11.760 but no one, again, like I said, seemed to be,

00:17:14.020 but no one really approached.

00:17:16.520 They didn't really pay any attention to me sitting there, so...

00:17:21.060 To me, that's mind-boggling.

00:17:23.060 That's my...

00:17:23.680 Like, okay, so, for context, we've done a lot of...

00:17:28.060 You've done a lot of security for us over the years,

00:17:30.900 and one thing I know about you...

00:17:34.200 So, when we get into, you know, any event,

00:17:38.140 or whether it's a public protest or an actual private event

00:17:41.740 or go to a kind of sketchy place,

00:17:45.160 or even when we're out and about in a situation

00:17:53.360 which isn't particularly hostile or sketchy

00:17:56.700 or concerning of any sort,

00:18:00.040 you're always...

00:18:01.320 You're always looking for people,

00:18:04.500 and when there's somebody that you think

00:18:06.800 just doesn't fit in,

00:18:09.640 you immediately notify me to watch it.

00:18:12.560 Sometimes you...

00:18:13.360 If it's a place that I know,

00:18:15.000 you'll point him out and you go,

00:18:16.020 hey, do you know that guy?

00:18:18.600 You know...

00:18:19.520 Okay, so, in short,

00:18:21.880 if we went to a place

00:18:23.660 where I was talking or facing a group,

00:18:30.120 in this case, the media,

00:18:31.040 whatever he was doing,

00:18:32.140 in a lobby,

00:18:32.920 and there were five, under 10 people,

00:18:35.840 because we're talking about situations

00:18:37.260 where there's generally thousands

00:18:38.960 and you're picking them out,

00:18:40.180 but when there's five to 10 people

00:18:42.600 and you saw someone that looks like you

00:18:44.140 hanging around,

00:18:45.480 there is no way you would not have noticed it.

00:18:48.040 And so, I just don't understand

00:18:50.160 how no one came up to you in that time,

00:18:52.900 especially after he was confronted

00:18:54.900 by one person already,

00:18:58.620 you know, in that time.

00:19:02.260 That's a failure of security.

00:19:04.820 Yeah, it's...

00:19:05.440 Look, I mean,

00:19:06.140 one of the CPP officers

00:19:08.240 was standing further back

00:19:09.540 while he was out in the courtyard,

00:19:10.660 and in their defence,

00:19:13.240 his eyes were...

00:19:15.100 He was looking around.

00:19:17.580 I'm gathering

00:19:18.580 after the first time

00:19:21.880 he was approached

00:19:22.900 that being close

00:19:25.400 personal protection officers,

00:19:27.140 they probably were too willing

00:19:29.640 to engage every individual.

00:19:33.460 Daniel, I don't want to break this to you.

00:19:35.440 You're not every individual.

00:19:36.740 if the tables were turned

00:19:40.160 and you were the security guard,

00:19:41.820 or you were the close protection...

00:19:44.620 What is that?

00:19:46.400 Close protection officer.

00:19:48.540 Oh, is that what they call him?

00:19:50.220 Essentially a bodyguard.

00:19:51.140 If you were working for me

00:19:52.560 and you saw someone

00:19:53.340 that looks like you sitting there,

00:19:55.300 there is no way you would just be...

00:20:00.060 There was no way

00:20:01.580 you were going to allow you

00:20:03.000 to come get that close.

00:20:04.680 Like, fine, I get it.

00:20:06.140 Maybe they didn't want to engage

00:20:07.240 everyone there.

00:20:08.940 Mind you, I'd argue

00:20:10.000 when they look like you,

00:20:11.040 maybe, I reckon,

00:20:12.960 probably engage him.

00:20:14.440 Like, at least spark a conversation

00:20:16.160 to see what's going on.

00:20:18.400 And then don't...

00:20:19.640 Definitely don't let him get close.

00:20:21.480 But they did.

00:20:22.900 And with all the talk around...

00:20:24.860 With all the talk around

00:20:26.220 upping security around

00:20:28.640 both the Prime Minister

00:20:29.740 and the opposition leader,

00:20:31.720 it makes no sense

00:20:33.260 that you got that close.

00:20:36.140 Yeah, I mean,

00:20:36.860 I got relatively close.

00:20:39.240 It's...

00:20:39.880 To be honest,

00:20:40.840 I sort of blew it

00:20:41.880 when I sort of picked up

00:20:44.100 a little jog

00:20:44.860 to catch up behind him

00:20:46.140 and I yelled out a bit early.

00:20:48.240 Hey, hey, hey, hey,

00:20:49.080 bye, bye.

00:20:49.740 And I looked...

00:20:51.000 I looked back at that

00:20:52.480 and went,

00:20:52.780 oh, I had to just bit me tongue

00:20:54.300 for maybe a second more.

00:20:56.040 I probably would have got

00:20:56.800 a bit closer.

00:20:58.000 And what does that tell you?

00:20:59.260 Like, imagine you were there

00:21:00.580 not to...

00:21:01.760 And you were there

00:21:02.420 solely to ask questions.

00:21:04.760 Yeah.

00:21:05.480 But imagine you were there

00:21:07.320 with more nefarious...

00:21:10.320 For a more nefarious reason.

00:21:11.720 Like, you were there

00:21:12.200 to actually cause harm.

00:21:14.140 And, you know,

00:21:15.240 you just, at that point,

00:21:16.360 bolted and instead of talking at all,

00:21:17.960 just boom!

00:21:19.160 And did whatever it was.

00:21:21.000 You know, imagine,

00:21:22.460 God forbid,

00:21:22.960 you had a weapon or something.

00:21:23.840 Like, that was somebody

00:21:24.560 that was out to target

00:21:25.880 the Prime Minister.

00:21:27.500 Surely, that's...

00:21:30.100 Doesn't sit right with me.

00:21:32.180 And you as a security...

00:21:33.680 Somebody that worked

00:21:35.200 and trained so heavily

00:21:36.340 in this area of security.

00:21:38.360 Do you not see that

00:21:40.340 as a problem?

00:21:43.580 Oh, look, it was...

00:21:44.980 Personally,

00:21:46.120 if I was running the detail

00:21:48.460 for the Prime Minister,

00:21:50.440 who obviously has

00:21:51.300 a lot of resources,

00:21:52.640 I would have put

00:21:54.540 a bit more

00:21:56.480 of an outer perimeter

00:21:57.680 with a few more...

00:21:59.980 They don't have to be

00:22:01.360 identified security,

00:22:03.780 but plainclothes security

00:22:05.320 around the...

00:22:06.360 Sort of the perimeter.

00:22:08.340 So you've got

00:22:08.680 the close guys

00:22:09.700 near the Prime Minister

00:22:11.260 and a couple more

00:22:12.660 further out.

00:22:13.820 So ideally,

00:22:14.480 if someone picks up

00:22:15.540 a jog in that direction,

00:22:17.720 the outer perimeter

00:22:18.500 can bang

00:22:19.880 and close ranks

00:22:20.940 to stop that threat

00:22:22.440 while the people

00:22:23.060 closer to the Prime Minister

00:22:24.340 just grab him and go,

00:22:25.220 mate, we need to go.

00:22:26.100 We're merging.

00:22:27.400 As opposed to the...

00:22:30.780 And I'm not knocking

00:22:32.320 the security guys.

00:22:33.840 They've worked

00:22:34.440 with what they're given.

00:22:36.480 And they did do

00:22:37.420 a good job,

00:22:38.000 in all fairness.

00:22:38.820 But without that

00:22:40.560 outer perimeter,

00:22:41.860 when I did come,

00:22:43.240 they did quickly

00:22:43.960 close that rank

00:22:45.200 and sort of put

00:22:46.780 their hands up

00:22:47.520 and made sure

00:22:48.160 I couldn't get

00:22:49.420 any closer.

00:22:52.180 But I mean,

00:22:53.040 it's a bit of a...

00:22:54.680 I'd like to say

00:22:55.280 from a security

00:22:55.980 point of view,

00:22:56.740 if there was

00:22:57.940 nefarious intent

00:22:59.060 or something,

00:23:00.740 it's something

00:23:03.060 luckily we've not

00:23:05.020 had a great deal

00:23:06.380 of in Australia.

00:23:07.260 Like,

00:23:07.400 the worst we've had

00:23:08.200 really is

00:23:09.020 a few eggings

00:23:10.660 with a veggie

00:23:12.420 might sandwich.

00:23:13.240 Yeah,

00:23:13.520 but it's not that bad

00:23:14.280 till it happens.

00:23:15.340 You know,

00:23:15.800 there's always a first.

00:23:18.940 Yeah,

00:23:19.220 and you look around

00:23:20.380 the rest of the world,

00:23:21.300 I mean,

00:23:21.620 from assassinations

00:23:22.480 to the start of

00:23:23.120 World War...

00:23:24.200 Was it World War I?

00:23:26.420 Or two

00:23:27.020 with Frantz Fanard?

00:23:28.160 I forget which one.

00:23:30.220 And then you look

00:23:31.080 at presidential

00:23:31.860 assassinations

00:23:32.800 in America

00:23:33.600 and everything.

00:23:34.560 So, look...

00:23:36.560 You don't even have

00:23:37.440 to go back.

00:23:38.560 Just knowing

00:23:39.340 the current

00:23:40.140 political climate

00:23:41.000 where it is

00:23:42.360 so divided,

00:23:43.460 there are so many

00:23:44.380 lunatics out and about,

00:23:46.140 there are literally

00:23:46.740 people marching

00:23:47.460 in support of

00:23:48.180 terrorist groups,

00:23:49.340 you have the far left,

00:23:50.460 you have the Islamists,

00:23:51.360 you have the

00:23:51.820 neo-Nazi right,

00:23:53.060 like,

00:23:53.440 you have all these

00:23:54.740 groups that

00:23:55.940 are literally

00:23:57.960 promoting violence

00:23:59.420 at the moment.

00:24:00.520 The last thing

00:24:01.320 you would think

00:24:02.320 is that you could

00:24:02.820 get so close

00:24:03.880 to one of the people

00:24:05.060 in the country

00:24:05.700 that would be

00:24:07.880 a target

00:24:09.320 to at least

00:24:10.420 one or

00:24:11.240 a couple

00:24:11.760 of those

00:24:12.300 groups,

00:24:14.060 if not all

00:24:14.460 of those groups.

00:24:16.060 So, it's

00:24:17.060 crazy to me.

00:24:18.800 But I hear you

00:24:19.920 and it does make sense

00:24:21.540 they did the best

00:24:22.340 they can

00:24:22.720 with the resources

00:24:23.660 they're given.

00:24:24.140 I'm surprised

00:24:24.680 that they're not

00:24:25.380 given more resources.

00:24:27.560 So, having said...

00:24:28.140 To be honest,

00:24:28.640 I was surprised

00:24:30.300 with

00:24:30.520 how easy

00:24:32.500 everything

00:24:33.060 like,

00:24:33.500 just there

00:24:34.160 is like,

00:24:34.600 oh,

00:24:34.820 okay,

00:24:35.140 it's...

00:24:35.680 Wasn't really...

00:24:39.680 Where the media

00:24:41.700 were talking about

00:24:42.540 beefed up security

00:24:43.840 and you're expecting

00:24:45.040 this hard layer

00:24:46.820 or several

00:24:47.880 hard layers

00:24:48.680 and then

00:24:49.180 for having

00:24:50.220 two close

00:24:51.160 personal protection

00:24:52.280 officers,

00:24:53.720 I personally

00:24:55.320 wouldn't consider

00:24:56.060 that

00:24:56.440 beefed up.

00:24:57.920 I would just...

00:24:58.300 Exactly.

00:24:58.980 And that's my point here.

00:25:00.440 That's my point here

00:25:01.500 is that

00:25:02.220 you're not the first person

00:25:04.200 to have confronted

00:25:05.120 the Prime Minister.

00:25:05.740 It's been...

00:25:06.340 The last few weeks

00:25:07.520 it's dominated headlines.

00:25:09.180 Both the Prime Minister

00:25:10.020 and the opposition leader

00:25:10.980 have been confronted.

00:25:12.280 They've...

00:25:13.040 You know,

00:25:13.280 the headline has been

00:25:14.160 beefed up security.

00:25:15.060 The government is saying

00:25:15.760 they're beefing up.

00:25:16.480 But if this is beefed up security,

00:25:18.180 I would hate to see

00:25:19.180 what

00:25:20.380 lax security is

00:25:22.380 because it just seems

00:25:23.600 like you can get

00:25:24.240 way too close to it.

00:25:26.520 I think we've unpacked

00:25:27.620 that a lot.

00:25:29.280 I want to know

00:25:30.040 so

00:25:30.360 to...

00:25:31.520 Because I know

00:25:32.460 something that

00:25:33.320 I'm more...

00:25:35.360 I have more

00:25:36.780 expertise on,

00:25:38.900 let's say,

00:25:39.460 is

00:25:39.560 formulating

00:25:41.460 a line of questioning

00:25:42.760 and then

00:25:43.600 trying to execute

00:25:44.800 the questions.

00:25:45.380 And I know

00:25:45.740 you said

00:25:46.180 you felt like

00:25:47.060 you went too early

00:25:48.420 and

00:25:48.720 Daniel,

00:25:50.320 I'll tell you this,

00:25:51.200 you're the security guy

00:25:52.280 but I'm the guy

00:25:52.900 that generally asks

00:25:54.080 the questions.

00:25:54.660 I can tell you

00:25:55.140 so many times

00:25:55.680 I walk away

00:25:56.200 from a situation.

00:25:56.900 This was your first time

00:25:58.180 essentially.

00:25:59.300 So,

00:25:59.680 you know,

00:26:01.500 what tends to happen

00:26:03.040 is you get

00:26:03.720 that adrenaline dump

00:26:05.920 and sometimes

00:26:06.800 you end up

00:26:07.960 executing it

00:26:11.680 in a way

00:26:12.020 that you're not

00:26:12.620 particularly happy

00:26:14.200 because you either

00:26:15.580 start too early,

00:26:17.000 you can't spit

00:26:18.120 the question out

00:26:18.780 exactly in the way

00:26:19.660 that you want to,

00:26:20.660 the tone

00:26:21.380 or the words

00:26:22.280 or the four,

00:26:23.000 like it just

00:26:23.640 doesn't play out

00:26:24.420 and you're

00:26:25.600 contending

00:26:26.180 with the adrenaline

00:26:27.460 plus the reaction

00:26:28.700 of the person

00:26:29.260 plus the security

00:26:30.160 plus you know

00:26:30.780 everyone doesn't

00:26:31.360 want you there

00:26:31.720 plus trying to think.

00:26:33.060 Tell us

00:26:33.580 how you felt,

00:26:35.300 how it kind of

00:26:36.420 panned out

00:26:36.960 and why you went

00:26:37.980 that particular line

00:26:39.060 of questioning.

00:26:39.620 Obviously,

00:26:39.980 you say you had

00:26:40.580 10 to 15 minutes

00:26:43.220 between the first person

00:26:44.020 so I'm assuming

00:26:44.620 that's when you

00:26:45.220 formulated the angle

00:26:46.600 in your head.

00:26:48.460 Tell us how

00:26:48.840 that side of it

00:26:49.440 all played out.

00:26:49.840 I didn't think

00:26:52.620 too hard about it

00:26:53.980 to be honest.

00:26:55.560 I just went

00:26:56.320 with a question

00:26:56.920 that was on my mind

00:26:58.600 about things

00:26:59.740 where people

00:27:00.520 have been talking

00:27:01.380 about it.

00:27:03.500 Look,

00:27:03.900 I think I did

00:27:04.400 alright where

00:27:04.820 the security said

00:27:05.580 you're not going

00:27:06.200 to get near him.

00:27:06.940 I said look,

00:27:07.740 don't put your hands

00:27:09.100 on me,

00:27:09.360 I'm not touching anyone.

00:27:11.620 I mean that said,

00:27:12.620 you know,

00:27:12.840 you've got to go

00:27:13.300 through the routine

00:27:14.120 and the game.

00:27:14.740 They're always going

00:27:15.420 to put their hands

00:27:16.180 on you anyway

00:27:16.800 and I would have

00:27:17.320 done the same

00:27:18.020 so it doesn't

00:27:19.600 really.

00:27:19.960 You've done it

00:27:20.460 many times.

00:27:22.080 Then I sort of said

00:27:23.060 I was happy

00:27:24.000 with my response.

00:27:24.820 Yeah,

00:27:24.980 look,

00:27:25.360 I vote.

00:27:26.380 I said,

00:27:26.720 oh well,

00:27:26.920 yeah,

00:27:27.120 public forums

00:27:27.980 and it's about

00:27:28.620 there where

00:27:29.200 everything went

00:27:30.720 a bit haywire.

00:27:31.500 I'm like,

00:27:31.680 well,

00:27:31.780 he doesn't go

00:27:32.300 to public forums

00:27:33.220 and if he does

00:27:34.360 it's a bit like

00:27:35.080 Penny Wong

00:27:35.980 and what I was

00:27:36.900 trying to say

00:27:37.600 in that situation

00:27:38.400 where I said

00:27:38.780 something,

00:27:39.560 something in China

00:27:40.620 or didn't let us

00:27:41.360 in China

00:27:42.180 and what I was

00:27:44.340 trying to spit out

00:27:45.260 and what I was

00:27:46.040 alluding to

00:27:46.840 and meant

00:27:47.240 was,

00:27:48.260 you know,

00:27:48.440 they're talking

00:27:48.920 about public forums.

00:27:49.960 Well,

00:27:50.020 go talk to him

00:27:50.660 in a public forum.

00:27:51.680 It's like,

00:27:51.980 well,

00:27:52.920 what about Penny Wong

00:27:54.000 and was it

00:27:54.780 Box Hill Town Hall

00:27:56.060 or China Town Hall

00:27:58.660 as they named it?

00:28:00.620 It's like,

00:28:01.120 well,

00:28:02.160 you wouldn't let

00:28:03.040 a certain type

00:28:04.560 of person through

00:28:05.560 into the public forum

00:28:06.780 to ask questions

00:28:08.060 of the elected

00:28:08.720 officials anyway.

00:28:10.400 So how am I meant

00:28:11.260 to go to a public

00:28:12.180 forum with Labour

00:28:13.620 to ask Anthony Albanese

00:28:15.340 a question

00:28:15.920 when if I'm

00:28:17.420 the wrong race,

00:28:18.860 the wrong colour,

00:28:20.620 the wrong whatever

00:28:21.980 Labour have decided

00:28:23.120 is not the right person,

00:28:25.460 then as a voter,

00:28:27.840 we're going to get

00:28:28.340 to get in and ask it.

00:28:29.820 Unfortunately,

00:28:30.500 like you say,

00:28:31.120 the adrenaline,

00:28:31.800 the situation,

00:28:32.720 that didn't get spat out

00:28:34.260 terribly articulately

00:28:36.560 in the video,

00:28:37.640 but it is what it is.

00:28:39.340 But as somebody

00:28:41.740 that's experienced

00:28:42.560 that a lot,

00:28:44.040 I can tell you

00:28:44.860 it's quite normal,

00:28:45.880 it's very hard,

00:28:46.700 you know,

00:28:47.800 and I walk away

00:28:48.720 sometimes,

00:28:49.660 you know,

00:28:49.960 especially in places

00:28:50.560 like the World Economic

00:28:51.340 Forum in Davos

00:28:52.160 where you,

00:28:53.380 you know,

00:28:54.080 you come,

00:28:54.800 you end up coming

00:28:55.560 face to face

00:28:56.300 with somebody

00:28:56.940 you've been waiting

00:28:58.000 so long

00:28:59.300 to ask questions

00:29:00.400 and suddenly

00:29:01.040 I go blank.

00:29:02.820 Can't remember

00:29:03.380 what this person

00:29:04.580 does,

00:29:05.020 did what I wanted

00:29:05.880 to ask him.

00:29:08.440 But,

00:29:08.880 so,

00:29:09.700 from that perspective

00:29:10.900 I think you did

00:29:11.920 pretty well

00:29:12.800 and I think

00:29:13.200 everyone has a right

00:29:14.240 to ask the Prime Minister,

00:29:15.740 especially the voting public

00:29:17.060 and I think you're right.

00:29:18.500 I think

00:29:18.800 it's a cop out

00:29:19.920 to say,

00:29:21.080 you know,

00:29:21.500 wait for a

00:29:22.400 public forum

00:29:23.400 because

00:29:24.240 the Prime Minister

00:29:25.360 never lets

00:29:26.060 random Aussies

00:29:27.180 ask questions.

00:29:28.040 Any of those

00:29:28.440 public forums,

00:29:29.460 they're either targeted

00:29:30.260 for a specific minority

00:29:32.620 so like in the case

00:29:33.420 that you're referring

00:29:33.940 to in Box Hill

00:29:34.580 where it was targeted

00:29:35.780 only to the Chinese community

00:29:37.240 and anyone that

00:29:38.040 wasn't Chinese

00:29:38.720 was not allowed in

00:29:39.760 or it's to public forums

00:29:41.840 where they vet

00:29:42.640 every single person

00:29:43.840 they bring in

00:29:44.760 and so

00:29:45.940 in that case

00:29:46.940 somebody like you

00:29:47.960 especially because

00:29:49.020 if you just Google

00:29:49.660 your name

00:29:50.140 you're going to,

00:29:50.880 you know,

00:29:51.280 the media

00:29:51.840 has continually

00:29:53.240 tried to tie you

00:29:54.260 to me

00:29:54.680 you'll never get in

00:29:56.860 you'll never get a question

00:29:57.900 and I don't think

00:29:58.600 that that's

00:29:59.080 that's right.

00:30:01.480 I would have

00:30:02.300 way more respect

00:30:03.220 in those situations

00:30:04.460 where it's clear

00:30:05.120 that you're not there

00:30:05.660 to harm them.

00:30:06.880 I would have

00:30:07.260 way more respect

00:30:08.560 for any leader

00:30:09.400 and this goes for

00:30:10.020 the Prime Minister

00:30:11.020 also the opposition leader

00:30:12.600 if somebody came up

00:30:14.560 and hit you

00:30:16.760 or disturbed

00:30:17.380 your press conference

00:30:18.300 with questions

00:30:19.040 is to just

00:30:20.300 actually answer it

00:30:21.660 actually answer it

00:30:22.840 and you can say

00:30:23.300 mate,

00:30:24.200 you weren't invited here

00:30:25.200 but hey,

00:30:25.760 you have a right

00:30:26.260 to ask a question

00:30:26.840 I would say

00:30:28.020 and then answer the question

00:30:29.280 and then,

00:30:29.720 you know,

00:30:29.980 like if the person

00:30:30.800 continues beyond

00:30:31.760 what is reasonable

00:30:32.760 fine,

00:30:33.400 go look

00:30:33.820 I gave you

00:30:34.800 I answered your question

00:30:35.860 and now I'm going to walk

00:30:37.020 instead of cowardly

00:30:39.280 bolting

00:30:40.260 and getting

00:30:40.780 you know,

00:30:41.300 security to do their job

00:30:42.460 even though

00:30:42.940 I think

00:30:43.660 I don't

00:30:45.100 I think from a security perspective

00:30:46.480 you should never have been

00:30:47.560 allowed that close

00:30:48.580 because

00:30:49.020 not because of you

00:30:50.380 but rather

00:30:51.320 because of the current

00:30:52.760 climate

00:30:53.360 and the fact that

00:30:54.560 if you were there

00:30:56.020 to cause harms

00:30:57.460 to do him harm

00:30:58.400 well,

00:30:59.380 unfortunately

00:30:59.820 I think you were close enough

00:31:00.960 to do it

00:31:01.480 or at least

00:31:02.540 if you

00:31:02.900 the intent was there

00:31:03.980 you would have gone

00:31:04.880 harder and faster

00:31:05.700 and if you had

00:31:06.520 God forbid a weapon

00:31:07.460 it was no good

00:31:08.500 speaking of all that

00:31:09.700 you were there

00:31:11.700 just to ask questions

00:31:12.440 so they grabbed you

00:31:13.960 and moved you away

00:31:15.520 and the Prime Minister

00:31:16.220 got away

00:31:16.580 how did that all play out?

00:31:18.640 Well,

00:31:18.960 I don't think they even

00:31:19.640 grabbed me

00:31:20.180 to be honest

00:31:20.720 it was more just

00:31:21.680 like that

00:31:22.940 and pushing

00:31:23.460 and just hands up

00:31:24.940 and more

00:31:25.900 shepherding

00:31:27.200 and shielding

00:31:27.560 and the Prime Minister

00:31:28.260 the Prime Minister

00:31:29.120 was kind of moved on

00:31:31.480 he just sort of walked off

00:31:32.300 as they were

00:31:32.920 shepherding and shielding

00:31:34.140 to

00:31:34.700 did he have guards

00:31:35.400 with him?

00:31:36.520 Pardon?

00:31:37.800 Did he have guards

00:31:38.520 next to him?

00:31:39.880 I think both of them

00:31:40.880 slipped off

00:31:41.520 by memories

00:31:42.500 both of them

00:31:43.080 had slipped off

00:31:43.820 to contend with me

00:31:44.900 while he

00:31:45.420 headed towards

00:31:46.980 the elevator

00:31:47.720 So he was alone?

00:31:51.720 I'm pretty sure

00:31:52.980 not alone

00:31:54.020 he did have Fiona

00:31:54.860 with him at some stage

00:31:55.960 Not Fiona

00:31:56.320 I'm talking about

00:31:57.100 from personal security

00:31:58.720 personal protection

00:31:59.500 he had no personal

00:32:00.180 protection with him

00:32:00.900 when you

00:32:01.880 two close protection

00:32:04.980 officers

00:32:05.140 and by memory

00:32:06.760 both of them

00:32:07.360 appealed on to me

00:32:08.480 but that said

00:32:11.040 there was

00:32:11.440 where he was

00:32:12.220 there was

00:32:12.820 no other way

00:32:13.980 to approach him

00:32:14.800 either

00:32:15.020 because it had gone

00:32:15.780 into a dead end

00:32:16.620 area towards

00:32:17.940 the elevators

00:32:18.820 So that's

00:32:19.820 assuming that

00:32:20.300 they knew

00:32:20.660 was there

00:32:21.700 no one else

00:32:22.160 around there?

00:32:23.640 Nah

00:32:23.920 So he was in a corner

00:32:25.520 where the only way

00:32:26.620 that somebody

00:32:27.100 could get down

00:32:27.700 to him

00:32:28.140 was if they

00:32:28.580 were coming down

00:32:29.140 from the elevator?

00:32:30.640 Yes

00:32:30.920 Now let me put it

00:32:32.220 to you like this

00:32:32.960 again

00:32:33.300 the fear here

00:32:36.320 from a security

00:32:36.980 perspective

00:32:37.800 like

00:32:38.100 again

00:32:39.540 let's make it clear

00:32:40.400 you were not there

00:32:41.480 with any ill will

00:32:42.500 like any intention

00:32:43.360 to cause harm

00:32:44.540 but if you were

00:32:45.680 and if this was planned

00:32:46.900 and you were there

00:32:49.100 to distract

00:32:49.900 and somebody else

00:32:51.440 was coming from

00:32:52.100 the elevator

00:32:52.680 as a coordinated attack

00:32:54.740 this was in a hotel

00:32:56.840 so there surely

00:32:57.780 could be somebody

00:32:58.560 from the public

00:32:59.180 that came down

00:32:59.760 in the elevator

00:33:00.260 he was left

00:33:01.720 without security

00:33:03.260 Is that right?

00:33:05.180 Essentially

00:33:05.620 yeah

00:33:06.060 I mean

00:33:09.380 for that to happen

00:33:10.220 I guess

00:33:10.680 you would have

00:33:11.300 had to have planned

00:33:12.060 had someone

00:33:12.640 staying in the hotel

00:33:13.940 had a key

00:33:14.760 but they said

00:33:15.500 it's not

00:33:15.900 out of the realms

00:33:17.140 of possibility

00:33:17.960 Mate

00:33:18.760 to me

00:33:19.680 it's definitely

00:33:20.880 not out of the realms

00:33:22.220 of possibility

00:33:22.760 because in the fact

00:33:24.700 that you were able

00:33:25.400 to get so close

00:33:26.080 so easily

00:33:26.660 especially after

00:33:27.400 he was already

00:33:27.880 confronted once

00:33:28.500 and

00:33:29.200 I just think

00:33:30.380 it's dangerous

00:33:31.540 and I just

00:33:32.140 when they say

00:33:33.080 when they promise

00:33:33.660 they're beefing up security

00:33:35.180 I

00:33:35.880 I can't see a situation

00:33:38.320 where it makes sense

00:33:39.180 where

00:33:39.420 because

00:33:40.200 it just seems like

00:33:41.680 if it was an attack

00:33:42.640 you would be the person

00:33:43.840 the perfect distraction

00:33:45.380 somebody coming from

00:33:46.240 from below

00:33:47.360 asking questions

00:33:49.240 and security

00:33:50.600 coming in

00:33:51.260 and dealing with you

00:33:52.460 the personal protection

00:33:53.280 leaving him open

00:33:54.720 somebody comes from

00:33:55.760 the elevator

00:33:56.280 boom

00:33:56.840 they have

00:33:57.280 direct contact

00:33:58.500 with him

00:33:58.940 without any

00:33:59.860 without anyone

00:34:01.700 there to defend him

00:34:03.400 and

00:34:03.760 that just

00:34:05.240 it's our

00:34:06.040 it's the Australian

00:34:07.060 Prime Minister

00:34:07.680 well like I say

00:34:09.700 with security

00:34:11.060 and given

00:34:11.980 the resources

00:34:13.080 the Prime Minister's

00:34:14.100 office has

00:34:14.700 the taxpayer's

00:34:16.980 expense

00:34:17.460 which is

00:34:18.900 fine

00:34:19.520 but

00:34:19.780 I would have

00:34:21.300 expected

00:34:21.860 what he had

00:34:23.820 minimum

00:34:24.200 two close

00:34:25.040 protection

00:34:25.580 offices

00:34:26.280 minimum

00:34:27.240 but then

00:34:28.280 an outer layer

00:34:29.060 of security

00:34:29.640 that would sweep

00:34:30.620 in

00:34:30.940 to someone

00:34:31.500 like me

00:34:32.100 at no point

00:34:33.060 yeah

00:34:34.580 I don't

00:34:35.100 I don't think

00:34:35.720 at any point

00:34:36.780 there should be

00:34:38.360 a situation

00:34:39.300 where the Prime Minister

00:34:40.500 of Australia

00:34:41.140 especially on the

00:34:43.220 campaign trail

00:34:43.880 in such a

00:34:44.960 political climate

00:34:46.120 in such a divisive time

00:34:47.000 is left

00:34:48.080 alone

00:34:48.840 yeah

00:34:50.060 so

00:34:50.340 yeah

00:34:51.300 deal with

00:34:52.140 the guy asking

00:34:53.260 questions

00:34:53.960 and

00:34:57.140 then also

00:34:58.320 have somebody

00:34:59.780 still with him

00:35:00.540 and again

00:35:01.520 it's all like

00:35:02.060 there's two things

00:35:04.840 here

00:35:05.000 like I make the

00:35:05.540 argument that

00:35:06.000 from his

00:35:06.980 perspective

00:35:07.460 I think he

00:35:08.260 should have

00:35:08.540 engaged you

00:35:09.000 in the

00:35:09.200 questions

00:35:09.580 just to make

00:35:11.500 him look like

00:35:12.060 somebody that's

00:35:12.520 not afraid

00:35:12.960 of questions

00:35:13.420 but from a

00:35:14.260 security

00:35:14.640 perspective

00:35:15.100 so there's

00:35:15.540 two things

00:35:15.940 kind of

00:35:16.200 happening

00:35:16.440 at the

00:35:17.200 same time

00:35:17.540 you should

00:35:18.160 have never

00:35:18.500 been able

00:35:18.860 to get

00:35:19.080 so close

00:35:19.500 but if

00:35:20.120 you did

00:35:20.520 from his

00:35:21.140 perspective

00:35:21.460 he probably

00:35:22.040 should have

00:35:22.320 just engaged

00:35:22.800 in the

00:35:23.000 questions

00:35:23.280 same as

00:35:24.760 the other

00:35:25.000 people

00:35:25.280 in press

00:35:26.100 conferences

00:35:26.480 because it's

00:35:26.880 not about

00:35:27.320 you or

00:35:27.780 who you are

00:35:28.260 it's about

00:35:29.000 showing the

00:35:29.920 public that

00:35:30.460 you're not

00:35:30.940 afraid

00:35:31.420 of their

00:35:32.720 questions

00:35:33.260 and you

00:35:33.620 shouldn't

00:35:33.840 have to

00:35:34.200 be vetted

00:35:35.280 to question

00:35:36.280 and your

00:35:36.560 questions

00:35:36.980 shouldn't have

00:35:37.480 to be vetted

00:35:38.020 like you see

00:35:38.540 on you know

00:35:38.920 a lot of

00:35:39.180 these shows

00:35:39.580 like Q&A

00:35:40.160 and all that

00:35:40.620 which is

00:35:41.320 what I'm

00:35:41.860 assuming

00:35:42.100 they want

00:35:42.520 you to do

00:35:42.880 I think

00:35:45.460 I think we've

00:35:45.640 established

00:35:46.060 that this

00:35:46.460 was a

00:35:46.800 massive

00:35:47.140 security

00:35:48.060 failure

00:35:49.200 it's kind

00:35:51.120 of funny

00:35:51.500 too

00:35:51.780 like

00:35:52.080 the video

00:35:53.640 there

00:35:54.600 blew up

00:35:55.460 really blew

00:35:56.360 up

00:35:56.540 and the

00:35:56.780 funny thing

00:35:57.200 is

00:35:57.540 if he had

00:35:58.240 to turn

00:35:58.580 around

00:35:58.840 and said

00:35:59.060 all right

00:36:00.440 I'm going

00:36:00.680 to answer

00:36:01.040 your questions

00:36:01.740 I think

00:36:02.900 nothing

00:36:03.760 would have

00:36:04.420 come of

00:36:05.160 me in the

00:36:05.720 video

00:36:06.080 because it

00:36:06.640 would have

00:36:06.860 been

00:36:07.300 in case

00:36:08.540 he answered

00:36:09.020 a few

00:36:09.320 questions

00:36:09.900 I think

00:36:10.760 he would

00:36:10.960 have come

00:36:11.200 out on top

00:36:11.780 I think

00:36:13.200 people would

00:36:14.460 have respected

00:36:15.200 it

00:36:15.560 it would have

00:36:17.660 worked out

00:36:18.260 a lot better

00:36:19.300 for him

00:36:19.720 in my opinion

00:36:20.780 and I agree

00:36:23.420 with you

00:36:23.740 all the

00:36:24.160 security

00:36:24.660 it was

00:36:25.080 quite a

00:36:25.960 I mean

00:36:26.740 like you say

00:36:27.220 I don't

00:36:27.820 want to harm

00:36:28.340 anyone

00:36:28.620 I did a

00:36:29.060 big live

00:36:29.680 video about

00:36:30.380 it the next

00:36:31.060 morning

00:36:31.380 so I'm

00:36:31.660 like oh

00:36:32.080 yeah

00:36:32.240 this is

00:36:32.620 this is

00:36:33.160 blowing up

00:36:33.840 I'd better

00:36:34.400 put my

00:36:34.820 point of

00:36:35.220 view

00:36:35.380 across

00:36:35.860 obviously

00:36:37.960 I don't

00:36:38.560 want to

00:36:38.820 harm

00:36:39.080 anyone

00:36:39.400 and like

00:36:39.940 you say

00:36:40.280 in this

00:36:40.800 political

00:36:41.900 climate

00:36:42.380 there are

00:36:42.900 some very

00:36:43.720 crazy

00:36:44.300 people

00:36:44.780 out there

00:36:45.320 and I

00:36:45.700 don't want

00:36:46.000 to be

00:36:46.200 misconstrued

00:36:46.900 to say

00:36:47.440 this or

00:36:48.920 that

00:36:49.160 I don't

00:36:50.200 think anyone

00:36:50.800 should be

00:36:51.460 physically

00:36:51.980 attacked

00:36:52.420 or hurt

00:36:52.800 but what

00:36:53.140 I am

00:36:53.680 saying

00:36:54.300 is

00:36:55.580 the

00:36:56.240 possibilities

00:36:56.980 of that

00:36:57.400 happening

00:36:57.800 like what

00:36:59.700 I was

00:36:59.980 saying about

00:37:00.460 political

00:37:00.860 assassinations

00:37:01.700 and that

00:37:02.020 what I was

00:37:03.320 sort of

00:37:03.640 leading to

00:37:04.140 was just

00:37:04.800 because it

00:37:05.340 hasn't

00:37:06.000 happened

00:37:06.320 in

00:37:06.500 Australia

00:37:06.940 like you

00:37:07.800 said

00:37:08.000 this

00:37:08.520 climate

00:37:09.260 out there

00:37:09.700 with some

00:37:10.040 really

00:37:10.460 crazy

00:37:10.900 people

00:37:11.280 threatening

00:37:11.680 violence

00:37:12.260 it's

00:37:13.580 I don't

00:37:14.100 want to

00:37:14.300 be

00:37:14.420 misconstrued

00:37:15.180 here

00:37:15.440 but from

00:37:16.920 a security

00:37:17.440 point of

00:37:17.940 view

00:37:18.080 you've

00:37:18.380 got to

00:37:18.700 think

00:37:18.900 about

00:37:19.180 this

00:37:19.420 and you've

00:37:19.880 got to

00:37:20.380 say it

00:37:20.740 and you've

00:37:21.000 got to

00:37:21.260 consider it

00:37:21.880 that it's

00:37:22.460 not a

00:37:22.820 point of

00:37:23.420 if

00:37:24.560 something bad

00:37:25.940 is going

00:37:26.220 to happen

00:37:26.520 to the

00:37:26.840 Prime Minister

00:37:27.260 it's a

00:37:27.800 point of

00:37:28.360 when

00:37:29.460 is it

00:37:30.180 going to

00:37:30.440 happen

00:37:30.520 you can

00:37:33.200 prepare for

00:37:33.960 it and

00:37:34.320 you should

00:37:34.640 be well

00:37:35.140 prepared

00:37:35.620 so that

00:37:36.340 when it

00:37:37.740 happens

00:37:38.160 you've got

00:37:39.040 measures in

00:37:39.580 place to

00:37:40.080 stop it

00:37:40.620 from happening

00:37:41.140 and reducing

00:37:42.540 or completely

00:37:43.780 mitigating that

00:37:45.000 risk

00:37:45.440 their job

00:37:46.800 should be

00:37:47.280 mitigating it

00:37:47.940 and

00:37:48.260 you know

00:37:49.200 the personal

00:37:51.600 protection

00:37:52.060 must be

00:37:54.220 you know

00:37:54.940 it's

00:37:56.200 it's

00:37:56.640 the most

00:37:58.760 valuable

00:37:59.060 target

00:37:59.500 in the

00:37:59.940 country

00:38:00.280 there should

00:38:01.680 be no

00:38:02.800 question about

00:38:03.660 ensuring

00:38:05.260 people

00:38:05.900 cannot

00:38:06.660 harm him

00:38:07.480 and

00:38:08.040 in this

00:38:09.760 occasion

00:38:10.140 which shows

00:38:10.740 the broader

00:38:11.440 problem

00:38:11.780 they are

00:38:12.560 failing

00:38:12.960 to do

00:38:14.040 that

00:38:14.240 and I

00:38:14.720 fear

00:38:15.040 that

00:38:15.280 yeah

00:38:15.460 you're

00:38:15.720 right

00:38:15.960 like I

00:38:16.440 think

00:38:16.640 it's not

00:38:18.420 a question

00:38:18.700 about whether

00:38:19.100 people want

00:38:19.500 to hurt

00:38:19.680 him

00:38:19.760 there are

00:38:20.100 people

00:38:20.400 there are

00:38:20.820 unhinged

00:38:21.400 people

00:38:21.840 in our

00:38:22.420 society

00:38:22.940 from both

00:38:24.540 sides of

00:38:24.920 politics

00:38:25.360 that

00:38:26.280 are

00:38:27.860 targeting

00:38:28.380 political

00:38:29.060 leaders

00:38:29.640 and if

00:38:30.160 they get

00:38:30.580 the opportunity

00:38:31.140 they will

00:38:32.100 hurt him

00:38:32.540 and

00:38:33.320 so

00:38:34.300 the only

00:38:35.520 way that

00:38:36.120 he's

00:38:36.320 stopped

00:38:36.660 is

00:38:37.100 the only

00:38:37.720 way to

00:38:37.940 ensure

00:38:38.140 that never

00:38:38.620 happens

00:38:39.000 is if

00:38:39.640 his

00:38:40.500 personal

00:38:41.060 protection

00:38:41.580 and both

00:38:42.160 Dutton's

00:38:42.660 is of a

00:38:44.460 standard

00:38:44.820 of a level

00:38:45.360 that

00:38:46.100 cannot

00:38:46.940 easily

00:38:47.380 be breached

00:38:48.040 now

00:38:48.380 what we've

00:38:49.540 seen here

00:38:50.220 is

00:38:50.540 is nothing

00:38:51.640 even close

00:38:52.360 to that

00:38:52.560 because you

00:38:53.060 accidentally

00:38:53.920 got so

00:38:54.520 close

00:38:54.880 so I

00:38:55.800 would hate

00:38:56.120 to think

00:38:56.460 somebody

00:38:56.800 who planned

00:38:57.480 it out

00:38:57.840 but moving

00:39:00.200 on like the

00:39:00.620 media again

00:39:01.660 the media

00:39:03.960 on one hand

00:39:04.840 who have

00:39:05.300 been promoting

00:39:06.760 the narrative

00:39:08.020 that security

00:39:08.920 has been

00:39:09.300 beefed up

00:39:10.020 has then on

00:39:11.320 the other

00:39:11.620 hand tried

00:39:12.620 to paint

00:39:13.200 you as

00:39:13.980 somebody who

00:39:14.700 is one of

00:39:15.220 those unhinged

00:39:15.900 people that

00:39:16.360 are potentially

00:39:17.300 trying to

00:39:18.660 harm him

00:39:18.980 I know you

00:39:19.560 I know that

00:39:20.040 none of that

00:39:20.540 is true

00:39:21.240 but I'm

00:39:22.320 a far

00:39:22.640 right

00:39:22.920 terrorist

00:39:23.360 now

00:39:23.720 and I've

00:39:24.080 been

00:39:24.340 wanting

00:39:24.800 to learn

00:39:25.420 what is

00:39:26.400 the appropriate

00:39:27.200 Allahu Akbar

00:39:28.460 for ultra

00:39:29.900 right terrorism

00:39:30.720 because I'm

00:39:31.380 going to have

00:39:31.700 to learn

00:39:32.020 how to say

00:39:32.580 it according

00:39:33.140 to the

00:39:33.500 media

00:39:33.860 because

00:39:34.340 look

00:39:34.960 and the

00:39:35.300 media

00:39:35.580 is

00:39:35.980 disingenuous

00:39:38.160 in their

00:39:38.840 you know

00:39:40.120 reporting

00:39:42.820 of you

00:39:43.820 and picking

00:39:44.520 up

00:39:44.740 you know

00:39:45.260 I've skimmed

00:39:46.080 through a bunch

00:39:46.540 of the articles

00:39:47.080 it's the same

00:39:47.660 nonsense

00:39:48.040 they're looking

00:39:48.520 at your

00:39:48.960 live

00:39:49.220 I didn't

00:39:49.480 watch your

00:39:49.900 live

00:39:50.140 and they're

00:39:50.400 taking

00:39:50.660 words

00:39:51.360 things that

00:39:51.860 you say

00:39:52.260 out of

00:39:52.720 context

00:39:53.080 and they're

00:39:54.300 taking photos

00:39:55.320 of you

00:39:55.660 I know you

00:39:57.020 as somebody

00:39:57.600 that's been

00:39:58.260 very into

00:39:59.460 security

00:40:00.140 into self

00:40:01.700 defense

00:40:02.200 into close

00:40:02.840 protection

00:40:05.200 but also

00:40:05.720 personal protection

00:40:07.340 body guarding

00:40:08.020 that's why you've

00:40:08.640 worked with us

00:40:09.100 and I've seen

00:40:09.600 you operate

00:40:10.220 you've saved

00:40:11.360 me a bunch

00:40:12.000 of times

00:40:12.500 you've never

00:40:13.920 been violent

00:40:15.720 towards someone

00:40:16.900 you do

00:40:17.760 you do

00:40:18.400 say stuff

00:40:19.140 that intimidates

00:40:20.520 or raises

00:40:21.880 that is easy

00:40:23.640 to take out

00:40:24.200 of context

00:40:24.800 so straight

00:40:26.240 up

00:40:26.480 is your

00:40:27.780 intent

00:40:28.080 to ever

00:40:28.600 hurt

00:40:29.000 any political

00:40:30.080 figure in

00:40:30.540 our country

00:40:31.020 no no

00:40:33.000 it's um

00:40:33.600 I wouldn't

00:40:35.020 it's

00:40:35.500 like I said

00:40:36.620 in my life

00:40:37.220 if

00:40:37.480 the team

00:40:41.580 I don't

00:40:42.120 want wins

00:40:42.620 this election

00:40:43.320 stiff

00:40:44.600 you go

00:40:45.640 home

00:40:46.140 you lick

00:40:46.840 your wounds

00:40:47.560 you

00:40:48.180 reassess

00:40:49.320 what went

00:40:49.820 wrong

00:40:50.100 and you

00:40:50.420 plan for

00:40:51.000 the next

00:40:51.400 four years

00:40:52.020 to do

00:40:52.320 it again

00:40:52.760 and for

00:40:53.520 that four

00:40:54.020 years

00:40:54.400 you grit

00:40:55.060 your teeth

00:40:55.600 you bear

00:40:56.360 it and

00:40:56.680 that's the

00:40:57.220 will of the

00:40:57.660 people

00:40:57.960 that's how

00:40:58.400 democracy

00:40:58.960 works

00:40:59.580 other

00:41:01.040 I suppose

00:41:03.080 life choices

00:41:03.960 are you can

00:41:04.640 have totalitarianism

00:41:06.160 communism

00:41:06.800 where you just

00:41:08.720 shoot everyone

00:41:09.300 who disagrees

00:41:10.040 with you

00:41:10.440 and we've

00:41:12.540 seen in the

00:41:13.100 real world

00:41:13.580 that can

00:41:14.420 and has

00:41:14.960 and does

00:41:15.520 happen

00:41:15.900 it's

00:41:16.820 I'm happy

00:41:18.060 in a first

00:41:18.600 world country

00:41:19.260 not being

00:41:20.200 shot at

00:41:20.860 so all I'm

00:41:21.620 going to say

00:41:21.980 is I'm not

00:41:22.560 going to harm

00:41:23.260 political

00:41:23.780 opponents

00:41:24.780 because

00:41:25.080 that is

00:41:26.840 not the

00:41:27.400 kind of

00:41:27.820 society

00:41:28.420 or world

00:41:29.300 that I

00:41:29.880 want to

00:41:30.440 live in

00:41:30.820 I would

00:41:31.820 rather

00:41:32.300 lick my

00:41:33.060 wounds

00:41:33.360 for four

00:41:33.880 years

00:41:34.380 and go

00:41:35.600 well

00:41:36.000 I hope

00:41:36.780 my boy

00:41:37.240 gets in

00:41:37.700 next time

00:41:38.380 and we

00:41:38.940 get some

00:41:39.300 improvement

00:41:39.880 as opposed

00:41:41.480 to

00:41:42.120 violence

00:41:42.900 and chaos

00:41:43.840 because

00:41:44.880 obviously

00:41:46.340 you don't

00:41:47.180 want

00:41:47.520 loss of

00:41:48.300 life

00:41:48.640 or

00:41:48.860 unnecessary

00:41:49.500 loss of

00:41:50.260 life

00:41:50.480 you don't

00:41:50.940 want

00:41:51.180 violence

00:41:51.680 or

00:41:51.860 unnecessary

00:41:52.420 violence

00:41:53.180 because

00:41:53.520 nobody

00:41:54.040 prospers

00:41:54.600 from that

00:41:55.000 nobody

00:41:55.340 wins

00:41:55.920 people

00:41:56.280 get hurt

00:41:56.860 people die

00:41:57.640 families

00:41:58.120 get torn

00:41:58.720 apart

00:41:59.200 lives

00:42:00.220 get torn

00:42:00.780 apart

00:42:01.200 and

00:42:01.860 there is

00:42:02.860 no

00:42:03.380 particularly

00:42:04.260 positive

00:42:05.700 outcome

00:42:06.180 from any

00:42:06.620 of that

00:42:06.900 so

00:42:07.240 there's

00:42:08.000 no

00:42:08.560 reason

00:42:09.040 for me

00:42:09.560 to sit

00:42:09.940 there

00:42:10.120 and say

00:42:10.320 look

00:42:10.620 we should

00:42:12.180 be hurting

00:42:13.200 elected

00:42:14.020 officials

00:42:14.540 so

00:42:15.360 the media

00:42:16.540 is painting

00:42:17.620 you in a

00:42:18.080 very different

00:42:18.640 light

00:42:19.080 and

00:42:20.000 I've got

00:42:20.680 to say

00:42:21.020 with the

00:42:22.040 way you

00:42:22.360 look

00:42:22.700 and

00:42:23.220 some of

00:42:23.820 your interests

00:42:24.320 and hobbies

00:42:24.860 in Australia

00:42:25.640 it's very

00:42:26.080 easy

00:42:26.580 and some

00:42:27.000 of the

00:42:27.180 things

00:42:27.400 you say

00:42:27.960 you haven't

00:42:29.260 made it

00:42:29.660 particularly

00:42:30.160 hard for

00:42:30.880 them

00:42:31.020 do you

00:42:33.080 have you

00:42:35.420 had any

00:42:35.960 kind of

00:42:37.180 backlash

00:42:37.880 so far

00:42:38.260 have police

00:42:38.620 come to

00:42:39.080 speak to

00:42:39.660 you

00:42:39.820 have you

00:42:40.540 had any

00:42:41.120 you know

00:42:41.960 I know

00:42:42.460 in the

00:42:42.680 past

00:42:43.000 they've

00:42:43.780 managed

00:42:44.040 to get

00:42:44.340 your

00:42:44.460 security

00:42:44.820 license

00:42:45.160 your

00:42:45.380 guns

00:42:46.900 confiscated

00:42:48.840 for a

00:42:49.140 period

00:42:49.360 we helped

00:42:50.200 you fight

00:42:50.660 that

00:42:50.860 because

00:42:51.160 it was

00:42:51.480 again

00:42:51.740 it was

00:42:52.020 politically

00:42:52.460 motivated

00:42:53.100 has anything

00:42:54.620 come of it

00:42:55.200 yet

00:42:55.420 and are you

00:42:56.540 worried

00:42:57.080 that there's

00:42:57.480 something

00:42:57.700 coming

00:42:58.120 nothing's

00:43:00.320 happened

00:43:00.560 yet

00:43:00.800 I've

00:43:01.800 been

00:43:01.940 expecting

00:43:02.460 a knock

00:43:02.820 on the

00:43:03.080 door

00:43:03.340 for

00:43:03.560 like

00:43:03.880 listen

00:43:04.100 mate

00:43:04.360 we

00:43:04.500 want

00:43:04.700 to

00:43:04.800 talk

00:43:05.440 to

00:43:05.560 you

00:43:05.740 nah

00:43:06.800 no one's

00:43:07.480 knocked

00:43:07.760 yet

00:43:08.000 on the

00:43:09.140 day

00:43:09.340 did police

00:43:09.800 have a

00:43:10.040 conversation

00:43:10.380 with you

00:43:10.780 after

00:43:11.100 or

00:43:11.640 they

00:43:12.240 just

00:43:12.440 moved

00:43:12.800 you

00:43:12.960 and

00:43:13.200 that

00:43:13.360 was

00:43:13.540 it

00:43:13.900 nah

00:43:15.020 just

00:43:15.240 moved

00:43:15.520 me

00:43:15.660 and

00:43:15.760 that

00:43:15.900 was

00:43:16.040 it

00:43:16.220 or

00:43:17.320 sort

00:43:18.180 of

00:43:18.280 got

00:43:18.380 the

00:43:18.500 point

00:43:18.700 where

00:43:18.880 what's

00:43:19.220 her

00:43:19.360 name

00:43:19.620 Fiona

00:43:20.040 the

00:43:20.460 communications

00:43:21.260 minister

00:43:21.760 yeah

00:43:22.720 and that

00:43:23.240 was a

00:43:23.520 very

00:43:23.860 condrescending

00:43:24.920 smug

00:43:25.640 smirk

00:43:26.140 you're

00:43:28.580 not a

00:43:28.860 guest

00:43:29.100 here

00:43:29.440 and it

00:43:30.780 was about

00:43:31.120 that point

00:43:31.680 I went

00:43:31.920 look

00:43:32.160 there's

00:43:32.420 no point

00:43:32.940 persisting

00:43:33.540 and pushing

00:43:33.940 on

00:43:34.280 I'm just

00:43:35.120 going to

00:43:35.340 make

00:43:35.620 the security

00:43:36.440 do more

00:43:37.040 work than

00:43:37.480 they have

00:43:37.900 to do

00:43:38.200 I'm not

00:43:38.720 going to

00:43:38.940 get

00:43:39.180 a question

00:43:40.720 anyway

00:43:41.300 he's

00:43:41.660 moving

00:43:42.140 on

00:43:42.580 so it

00:43:43.300 was at

00:43:43.440 that point

00:43:43.840 I just

00:43:44.180 said

00:43:44.400 yeah look

00:43:45.300 I'm happy

00:43:45.720 to leave

00:43:46.300 and I

00:43:47.340 walked out

00:43:48.100 like nobody

00:43:48.700 pushed me

00:43:49.280 out I

00:43:49.540 walked out

00:43:50.040 of my

00:43:50.340 own accord

00:43:50.960 because the

00:43:52.280 moment was

00:43:52.840 over it

00:43:53.320 had passed

00:43:53.840 and I

00:43:55.120 didn't look

00:43:55.880 back

00:43:56.340 I assumed

00:43:57.620 the two

00:43:58.380 security

00:43:58.840 would have

00:43:59.260 got straight

00:44:00.060 back onto

00:44:00.560 elbow and

00:44:01.580 up the

00:44:02.280 elevator and

00:44:02.980 off to

00:44:03.300 safety

00:44:03.740 but um

00:44:05.560 yeah oh

00:44:06.860 that's one

00:44:07.260 point I did

00:44:07.900 want to make

00:44:08.420 with the

00:44:08.740 papers where

00:44:09.240 you say

00:44:09.660 um some

00:44:10.680 of the

00:44:10.900 stuff I've

00:44:11.400 said

00:44:11.660 uh because

00:44:12.680 my my

00:44:14.420 mother pulled

00:44:14.980 me up on

00:44:15.480 this one

00:44:16.140 uh she

00:44:18.100 goes oh

00:44:18.440 it was just

00:44:18.880 here in the

00:44:19.240 paper you

00:44:19.680 said something

00:44:20.060 about you

00:44:21.200 know easy

00:44:21.820 to kill

00:44:22.300 people

00:44:22.800 I went oh

00:44:24.220 god here

00:44:24.800 we go

00:44:25.300 um you

00:44:26.440 know because

00:44:27.200 I had uh

00:44:28.780 letters from

00:44:29.420 certain what

00:44:32.440 do you call

00:44:32.920 journalists sorry

00:44:33.700 certain journalists

00:44:34.560 from certain

00:44:35.480 outlets that

00:44:37.040 had outright said

00:44:38.440 to me listen

00:44:38.920 you know we've

00:44:39.880 got this evidence

00:44:40.480 against you

00:44:41.480 from the white

00:44:42.520 rose society

00:44:43.500 I thought

00:44:44.540 Jesus hang

00:44:45.260 on you're

00:44:45.940 labeling me a

00:44:46.860 far right

00:44:47.580 extremist

00:44:48.240 alt right

00:44:48.940 far right

00:44:49.480 and you're

00:44:50.340 getting your

00:44:50.980 information

00:44:52.980 from the

00:44:54.100 white rose

00:44:54.680 society

00:44:55.220 a group

00:44:56.080 well known

00:44:56.920 for being a

00:44:57.520 very far

00:44:58.500 left extremist

00:45:00.220 group that

00:45:01.100 quite often

00:45:01.860 misconstrues and

00:45:03.200 takes things out

00:45:04.140 of context and

00:45:04.960 then embellishes

00:45:05.740 things out of

00:45:06.540 context

00:45:06.860 they support

00:45:07.640 Hamas

00:45:08.180 enough said

00:45:09.080 this group

00:45:10.520 that is

00:45:10.940 and just so

00:45:12.700 people know the

00:45:13.400 white rose

00:45:13.860 society is

00:45:14.740 appropriating a

00:45:16.340 group that

00:45:16.980 fought uh

00:45:18.400 the nazis

00:45:19.420 in uh

00:45:20.940 in in

00:45:21.560 world war

00:45:22.100 ii on

00:45:22.880 behind you

00:45:23.320 know to

00:45:23.880 protect fighting

00:45:24.640 back to

00:45:25.540 protect the

00:45:26.120 jews and

00:45:27.460 they've spent

00:45:28.520 the better part

00:45:29.580 of the last

00:45:30.040 year and a

00:45:30.460 half targeting

00:45:31.580 jews for a

00:45:32.980 group that

00:45:33.360 shares the

00:45:33.840 same um

00:45:35.360 ideology as

00:45:36.920 the nazis

00:45:37.620 make it make

00:45:38.480 sense it's

00:45:38.920 these are the

00:45:39.520 these are the

00:45:40.220 worst people

00:45:40.980 in our society

00:45:42.880 who are

00:45:44.060 protected for

00:45:44.780 some reason

00:45:45.280 they'll label

00:45:45.900 you as a far

00:45:46.920 right but they

00:45:47.560 will not um

00:45:48.900 they will

00:45:49.840 not look

00:45:50.700 they will not

00:45:52.160 describe them

00:45:52.780 as far left

00:45:53.620 yeah and

00:45:55.580 what do

00:45:56.280 that that

00:45:56.760 dr kaz

00:45:57.940 rose and

00:45:58.460 they're like

00:45:58.900 uh and

00:46:00.020 dr kaz

00:46:00.980 rose from

00:46:01.560 the white

00:46:01.960 rose society

00:46:02.820 a you

00:46:04.460 know a

00:46:05.080 researcher

00:46:05.860 yeah he's

00:46:07.260 researched into

00:46:08.260 daniel and

00:46:09.460 one of the

00:46:10.400 things they

00:46:10.820 love to put

00:46:11.440 around is a

00:46:12.020 picture where

00:46:13.260 blair

00:46:14.080 cattrall was

00:46:14.660 speaking now

00:46:15.180 this again was

00:46:15.860 years ago

00:46:16.940 yeah and

00:46:18.260 this was before

00:46:19.400 they openly

00:46:20.280 became nazis

00:46:21.420 that's i

00:46:22.640 remember that

00:46:23.060 oh look i

00:46:24.860 think there was

00:46:25.360 a thing where

00:46:26.000 you know they

00:46:27.440 were sort of

00:46:27.880 known nazis but

00:46:29.020 i'm in the

00:46:30.480 photo in a

00:46:32.280 mirror in the

00:46:32.940 background and

00:46:33.980 the white rose

00:46:35.920 society has taken

00:46:36.820 this one photo

00:46:38.000 so you're talking

00:46:38.640 about one split

00:46:40.240 second in a

00:46:41.700 moment of time

00:46:42.640 where they and

00:46:43.380 they're like this

00:46:44.000 evidence he's a

00:46:44.820 nazi and the

00:46:46.820 reality of this

00:46:47.660 photo is i was

00:46:48.500 there i don't

00:46:49.160 deny it um it

00:46:50.880 was a secret

00:46:51.440 meeting that was

00:46:52.080 held at their

00:46:53.040 gym headquarters and

00:46:54.780 the meeting was

00:46:55.800 about the idea of

00:46:58.320 forming community

00:46:59.400 groups to patrol

00:47:00.580 the community to

00:47:02.140 help keep the

00:47:02.920 community safe from

00:47:04.740 rising crime that

00:47:06.380 was happening so

00:47:07.420 it was nothing to

00:47:08.220 do with neo

00:47:08.780 nazism uh it

00:47:10.680 was i only

00:47:11.440 attended because

00:47:12.160 the idea of

00:47:13.280 community safety

00:47:14.420 uh was

00:47:16.540 interesting to me

00:47:17.380 it still is so

00:47:18.680 i thought you

00:47:19.500 know what there

00:47:20.060 is no harm in

00:47:21.080 turning up one

00:47:22.220 time to get

00:47:24.080 their perspective

00:47:24.860 ideas and hear

00:47:26.560 what they've got

00:47:27.040 to say but i

00:47:27.400 remember at the

00:47:27.960 period at the

00:47:29.160 time at the

00:47:29.940 period of times i

00:47:30.740 know you say you

00:47:31.620 know that there

00:47:32.080 was that they

00:47:33.080 were called

00:47:33.700 nazis for a long

00:47:34.520 time but there

00:47:34.960 was a period of

00:47:35.500 time in which

00:47:36.640 people like

00:47:37.540 blake or trail

00:47:38.140 were claiming not

00:47:39.800 to be nazis and

00:47:41.800 it was it was

00:47:43.200 much more in

00:47:43.920 that time in

00:47:45.240 which that

00:47:45.640 meeting happened

00:47:46.380 yes there were

00:47:47.520 people on the

00:47:48.580 part of the

00:47:49.520 group you know

00:47:50.160 you had like

00:47:50.600 neil erickson at

00:47:51.540 that time who

00:47:52.540 had been part of

00:47:54.060 the nazis and

00:47:54.660 then claimed that

00:47:55.400 he was against the

00:47:56.160 nazis and doing

00:47:57.140 all these videos

00:47:57.800 the thing i would

00:47:59.380 say is in

00:48:00.420 response to that

00:48:01.280 and i love when

00:48:02.500 the white rose

00:48:03.400 society and the

00:48:05.420 mainstream media are

00:48:06.640 so worried about

00:48:07.320 people like you to

00:48:08.240 be a nazi when

00:48:09.460 um we're good

00:48:10.920 friends i'm a

00:48:12.220 proud jew the

00:48:13.600 nazis hate me

00:48:14.580 more than

00:48:14.940 anyone um you

00:48:16.800 you've been a

00:48:18.420 defender of the

00:48:19.300 jews in the last

00:48:20.160 few years i guess

00:48:21.060 when it comes to

00:48:22.380 actions speak

00:48:23.480 louder than

00:48:24.020 words your

00:48:25.280 actions over the

00:48:26.480 last couple of

00:48:27.200 years especially

00:48:27.780 since october 7

00:48:28.720 but i've known

00:48:29.200 you've worked with

00:48:30.040 me for a lot

00:48:30.580 longer than that

00:48:31.280 but since october

00:48:32.700 7 has shown that

00:48:34.540 if i have to if

00:48:35.460 any jew if any

00:48:37.140 jew has to put

00:48:38.340 your deeds next

00:48:39.800 to the deeds of

00:48:40.520 either the white

00:48:41.340 rose society or

00:48:42.280 much of the

00:48:42.920 mainstream media

00:48:43.640 including those

00:48:44.380 who are painting

00:48:44.800 you as a nazi

00:48:45.520 now um they

00:48:47.100 would say that

00:48:47.860 no you are a

00:48:49.140 defender of jews

00:48:50.120 while that group

00:48:51.540 the white rose

00:48:52.380 society plus many

00:48:53.800 in the mainstream

00:48:54.260 media well if we

00:48:55.220 have to decide

00:48:55.680 which one is uh

00:48:57.700 more of a neo

00:48:58.380 nazi or a nazi

00:48:59.880 sympathizer or a

00:49:00.960 jew hater or

00:49:01.560 whatever somebody

00:49:02.800 that supports

00:49:03.700 anybody that wants

00:49:04.700 to annihilate the

00:49:05.560 jewish people it

00:49:07.260 will be them not

00:49:08.140 you and it's

00:49:09.860 disgraceful that

00:49:10.740 they use that

00:49:12.020 they use they

00:49:13.140 try to paint you

00:49:14.080 because it's not

00:49:14.600 hard you're white

00:49:15.800 you've got a head

00:49:17.140 that's bald um

00:49:18.700 you could fit

00:49:19.420 baldness i can't

00:49:20.980 help it it's you

00:49:22.240 could fit the

00:49:22.900 profile from when

00:49:24.800 somebody looks at

00:49:26.040 you and if they

00:49:26.880 have one image in

00:49:28.160 which they can take

00:49:28.760 out of context and

00:49:30.080 paint you in that

00:49:30.700 way but it is they

00:49:32.720 know they're lying

00:49:33.800 they are no they

00:49:34.980 know they're lying

00:49:35.720 by by omission

00:49:37.280 well yeah even

00:49:39.280 that thing where

00:49:40.080 like i say the

00:49:40.900 context where i

00:49:42.160 said um you

00:49:43.760 know it should be

00:49:44.480 easy to kill the

00:49:45.780 actual thing i

00:49:48.120 know i stand by

00:49:49.020 what i said and

00:49:49.680 i'm going to say

00:49:50.140 it now because i

00:49:51.060 stand by what i

00:49:51.880 say is that you

00:49:52.520 should be hard to

00:49:53.840 kill didn't say

00:49:55.560 people should be

00:49:56.240 easy to kill what

00:49:57.560 i often say is you

00:49:59.180 should be hard to

00:50:00.040 kill like you

00:50:01.060 shouldn't be a

00:50:01.840 vulnerable target

00:50:02.780 you shouldn't be

00:50:03.420 an easy person

00:50:04.540 and you look at

00:50:06.180 what's happening in

00:50:06.840 melbourne you know

00:50:07.420 with the home

00:50:07.920 invasions where five

00:50:08.960 people come through

00:50:09.720 your door you got

00:50:10.580 your kids sleeping

00:50:11.840 in the room your

00:50:12.780 missus you should be

00:50:15.320 hard to kill

00:50:16.580 listen daniel when

00:50:17.840 i said someone they

00:50:18.500 can just walk in

00:50:19.240 and go oh and

00:50:20.780 now we're going to

00:50:21.360 do whatever we want

00:50:22.340 for your kids and

00:50:23.060 missus and i don't

00:50:24.380 want to go into how

00:50:25.180 bad they can get but

00:50:26.400 um it's just the way

00:50:27.980 they misquote and

00:50:29.520 again like french

00:50:30.380 it's ingenuous the

00:50:31.700 white rose society

00:50:32.640 dr kazroz they

00:50:34.220 know what i've

00:50:36.400 said and they

00:50:37.260 purposely even it

00:50:38.760 a little tweak so

00:50:40.180 that it sounds worse

00:50:41.140 than what it is and

00:50:41.860 then you put that

00:50:42.800 next to some of the

00:50:43.640 photos some of which

00:50:45.080 are five eight years

00:50:46.100 old um you know

00:50:47.980 look i've put silly

00:50:49.160 things up on the net

00:50:50.420 um it is what it is

00:50:52.320 sometimes i do a

00:50:54.280 different shit you

00:50:55.320 know i think it's

00:50:55.900 funny two things uh

00:50:57.740 you're we all have

00:50:59.040 flaws you definitely

00:51:00.180 have done some

00:51:01.200 things which i think

00:51:02.080 you walked away and

00:51:02.760 go oh i probably

00:51:03.880 shouldn't have done

00:51:04.320 that um but also i

00:51:06.660 i know that you're

00:51:08.040 you're you're somebody

00:51:09.120 that one either

00:51:10.560 enjoys shit posting

00:51:12.360 from time to time but

00:51:13.440 you also um you also

00:51:16.020 when it comes to

00:51:16.660 self-defense and

00:51:17.360 talking about you

00:51:19.180 know combating

00:51:19.840 violence with violence

00:51:20.800 i know you're a

00:51:21.900 direct person that

00:51:23.000 doesn't sugarcoat any

00:51:24.060 of the realities of

00:51:25.260 violence and when i

00:51:27.180 said earlier you

00:51:28.240 sometimes make it

00:51:28.940 easy for them it's

00:51:29.920 because you do run

00:51:31.200 that security thing

00:51:32.220 that tactical combat

00:51:33.340 uh combatives uh

00:51:34.820 page and security and

00:51:35.760 self-defense classes

00:51:36.480 and whatever so and

00:51:38.160 and you do that's how

00:51:39.520 you talk because you're

00:51:40.920 not you're not trying

00:51:41.960 to to make things um

00:51:44.200 less you're not meant

00:51:46.000 to you're not you're

00:51:46.760 never trying to paint

00:51:47.520 something less brutal

00:51:48.500 than it is you say the

00:51:49.700 brutal truth that you

00:51:50.700 believe um but you

00:51:52.020 never incite actual

00:51:53.460 violence uh and the

00:51:55.300 truth is you're a

00:51:56.260 self-defense guy

00:51:57.100 you you've you've

00:51:58.180 always promoted it

00:51:59.040 and you've acted in

00:52:00.100 that way and i think

00:52:01.920 even what you've

00:52:02.620 pointed out here in

00:52:04.040 this situation has

00:52:05.560 been to try help the

00:52:07.600 government ensure that

00:52:08.960 we protect um even if

00:52:11.360 they are our opposition

00:52:13.000 the leaders of this

00:52:14.320 country listen before i

00:52:15.640 let you go i want to

00:52:16.320 know are you worried

00:52:17.400 though because the

00:52:18.280 media is working over

00:52:20.020 time um to to to

00:52:22.940 take you out they

00:52:24.280 want you to they want

00:52:25.160 to scapegoat you are

00:52:26.500 you worried that

00:52:27.020 something's going to

00:52:27.560 happen from this or

00:52:28.380 you're not at all

00:52:29.240 i'm not particularly

00:52:31.160 worried it's um look

00:52:33.040 i've not done anything

00:52:34.000 illegal i'm not going

00:52:35.300 to point that out real

00:52:36.940 quick i'm not going to

00:52:38.020 do anything illegal

00:52:38.960 either um so i'm not

00:52:41.500 really worried it's not

00:52:43.260 my first rodeo i've

00:52:44.560 weathered a few storms

00:52:45.660 before it's i'll take it

00:52:47.820 as it comes it's to be

00:52:49.360 honest uh when i popped

00:52:50.920 up in the age and

00:52:51.840 everything i just had a

00:52:53.180 huge laugh about it

00:52:55.200 and i i went driving

00:52:56.460 around to make sure i

00:52:57.460 could pick up one of

00:52:58.200 the papers to put in my

00:52:59.280 collection of uh times

00:53:01.280 i've ended up in the

00:53:02.240 media and gone oh i

00:53:03.860 think this is my new

00:53:04.720 favorite one actually

00:53:06.000 um yeah i'm not too

00:53:08.080 concerned if the if i i'm

00:53:11.200 actually surprised i

00:53:12.160 haven't but if i got a

00:53:13.300 knock on the door from

00:53:15.280 the australian federal

00:53:16.420 police again i've done

00:53:17.940 nothing illegal i'm not

00:53:19.080 worried uh i'd be happy

00:53:20.580 to sit there and say

00:53:22.080 well listen i'm happy

00:53:23.340 to answer questions if

00:53:24.500 you got them you know

00:53:26.260 within reason i i i know

00:53:28.060 that about you but i also

00:53:29.240 do know the process is a

00:53:30.580 punishment and you should

00:53:31.480 know that because you've

00:53:32.380 been through that and um

00:53:34.340 that they often can open

00:53:35.860 an investigation and you

00:53:38.140 being somebody that relies

00:53:39.460 for your um income on you

00:53:42.300 know to survive on on a

00:53:44.360 security license and that's

00:53:45.800 something that's very easy

00:53:46.820 for them to take away at

00:53:48.020 least to suspend while

00:53:49.900 they're investigating um

00:53:51.980 but but if you're not

00:53:53.060 worried look um we we

00:53:54.720 know you've definitely

00:53:55.600 done nothing wrong um

00:53:57.580 and uh you know we know

00:54:00.100 that we can always rely on

00:54:01.820 you and call you um to to

00:54:04.720 to ensure our security so

00:54:06.180 um i i hope that there's

00:54:09.400 nothing i hope you're right

00:54:10.380 and uh i know there's not

00:54:12.180 many things that phase you

00:54:13.240 in life but um mate it

00:54:16.320 was good to have you on the

00:54:17.160 show as well thank you thank

00:54:19.900 you for having me on i

00:54:20.920 look god honest i think it's

00:54:22.560 just a good old um struggle

00:54:24.960 session the old communist

00:54:26.240 struggles this star session

00:54:27.640 like uh we can just

00:54:29.100 embarrass him and change the

00:54:31.720 narrative about how everyone

00:54:33.240 views him uh that should be

00:54:35.660 enough you know so i think

00:54:37.040 the punishment is in their

00:54:40.080 eyes that you know i'm meant

00:54:42.260 to feel ashamed and embarrassed

00:54:43.740 and i'll meant to be

00:54:45.200 ostracized from family and

00:54:47.300 friends because i've ended up

00:54:48.540 in the paper as this terrorist

00:54:50.020 and which is fine because um

00:54:52.740 that's not exactly how it went

00:54:55.520 but i think that probably will be

00:55:00.300 the end of it that they run that

00:55:02.120 through and that is the punishment

00:55:04.160 or the outcome they were hoping for

00:55:06.540 i don't know i uh personally have

00:55:10.140 i think the mainstream media

00:55:12.820 especially when it comes to

00:55:13.860 right-wingers not the extremists on

00:55:16.640 the left from the white race society

00:55:18.320 but when they go after the right

00:55:19.620 uh and yeah but i feel like they

00:55:24.720 they always have a ulterior motive

00:55:27.780 which is far more nefarious and it

00:55:30.900 is to publicly pressure the police to

00:55:34.300 do something whether the police go

00:55:36.640 and and follow up or not is is

00:55:39.180 another matter i hope they don't

00:55:40.880 but um mate either way uh you know

00:55:44.040 you have our absolute support

00:55:45.560 because uh we know we can always

00:55:48.240 rely on you and i know who you

00:55:49.600 really are and i you know and no

00:55:51.760 matter how they paint you i know

00:55:53.080 that you're a genuine um a genuine

00:55:56.700 person who believes in um protecting

00:56:00.360 what's ours and never inciting

00:56:03.400 violence never turning violent

00:56:05.140 never anything to do with that

00:56:07.000 because to be frank i wouldn't have

00:56:08.680 you around if you were like that

00:56:09.900 well here's the funny thing i mean

00:56:12.700 if they come up to me said daniel

00:56:15.500 will you protect anthony albanese

00:56:18.060 here's the conditions here's the play

00:56:21.280 here's what's happening

00:56:22.400 yeah i might consider taking the job

00:56:26.820 um because part of protecting people

00:56:29.120 and i had to do it where you protect

00:56:31.320 people you don't particularly agree

00:56:33.960 with as like it doesn't matter as a

00:56:37.420 security professional your opinion is

00:56:39.260 irrelevant your job is to keep someone

00:56:42.500 safe um and if you say yes to the job

00:56:45.320 that's exactly what you do for better

00:56:47.780 for worse for right or wrong that's what

00:56:49.760 you said you'd do that's what you do

00:56:51.360 um so if the afp knocked on my door

00:56:54.340 right now and said listen here's the

00:56:56.740 play and i've looked at it and went

00:56:58.380 you boys kidding that that's i mean i

00:57:02.340 would probably protect anthony albanese

00:57:04.840 and run a security detail because

00:57:06.880 um it's not like i've got anything

00:57:10.280 against the oh i don't know him

00:57:11.740 personally i've got nothing against him

00:57:13.300 personally uh i just don't like the

00:57:16.820 government's policies at the moment and

00:57:19.420 that that doesn't make people in the

00:57:22.080 government bad people it doesn't mean

00:57:23.880 they don't deserve protection or

00:57:26.360 security and it doesn't mean that i

00:57:28.680 wouldn't provide it for them um so

00:57:31.840 i like the note and this is what i think

00:57:35.400 we'll wrap up on

00:57:36.280 you're saying listen if the uh if albanese

00:57:40.520 that there was clear failures here in his

00:57:43.180 uh personal protection

00:57:45.720 if the government wants i am volunteering

00:57:51.140 uh not well well volunteering to take on

00:57:54.060 the job uh obviously pay job um to help

00:57:57.660 him fill in the gaps of where they failed

00:58:00.380 uh in your case and in some of the other

00:58:02.540 cases in this campaign is that what you're

00:58:04.660 saying you're happy to to join uh as his

00:58:08.060 his personal protection team wouldn't say yes

00:58:11.780 wouldn't say no i i would say

00:58:14.520 as with any job you look at the conditions

00:58:18.520 and let's say that that could be yes it

00:58:22.180 could be in the afp conditions are going to

00:58:24.500 be far better than anything you've worked

00:58:26.440 they're definitely going to be better than

00:58:27.580 the conditions you get at rebel news i've

00:58:29.640 got to say that they've got but i like

00:58:32.400 working at rebel news i i i know i know you

00:58:35.640 wouldn't you know we've hired through the

00:58:38.240 years multiple different security personnel

00:58:41.320 and i've got to say that you are definitely

00:58:43.400 the best we've ever had and i would hate to

00:58:45.580 lose you to the afp to be protecting albanese

00:58:48.020 but i dare say that their conditions uh because

00:58:52.920 they've got far deeper pockets than we do you

00:58:55.220 know the tax the taxpayer um is a lot greater

00:58:59.420 than the revenue that rebel pulls in from the

00:59:02.640 viewers watching this the conditions will be

00:59:05.040 right you would be happy to up when they say

00:59:09.000 beef up the government the the prime minister's

00:59:12.240 security personnel you would be happy to join

00:59:15.700 that team um and to ensure that he actually has

00:59:18.820 proper security

00:59:19.560 yeah yeah i probably would to be honest

00:59:23.560 there you go albanese the ball is in your

00:59:27.720 court thank you daniel for joining us um where

00:59:30.320 can people find you on i think you're on facebook and x and

00:59:34.460 where are you just before before i let you go

00:59:37.020 i'm not overly active on x i got another band the other day

00:59:41.940 um i'm very active on facebook.com slash tactical force combatives

00:59:47.980 and i have started a little t-shirt line where i took the photo from the

00:59:53.800 a or i didn't uh morgan did it for me

00:59:57.060 the photo from the age with the rocket launcher and it's got a

01:00:01.160 cardoon thing that says i stand with rocket launcher man

01:00:04.060 so yeah thought i'd make up a bit of merchandise as well

01:00:08.800 so you're embracing the names that they're giving you i love it

01:00:13.980 brother have it alone till next time take care stay safe and uh

01:00:19.560 i hope to see you there side by side with the prime minister

01:00:22.560 next week keeping him safe let's see thank you for having me

Rebel News Podcast - April 22, 2025

AVI YEMINI ｜ Aussie PM's security flaws EXPOSED in Melbourne

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