AVI YEMINI ｜ Exposing the HYPOCRISY of 'conservative' opportunists
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There has been a concerning shift on the right in the last year and a half. In tonight's episode, I catch up with Zach Bonfilio, known online as the "Misfit Patriot," a conservative commentator who has held firm to his principles while others in the online right-wing space have shifted their views.
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There has been a concerning shift on the right in the last year and a half or so.
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In tonight's episode, I catch up with Zach Bonfilio, known online as the Misfit Patriot,
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a conservative commentator who has held firm to his principles, while others in the online
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Well, in the crazy world of, I guess, online conservative commentating, we've seen a rather
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But some have stayed steady and true and consistent, and I guess I wonder why.
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So my next guest today, Zach, or the Misfit Patriot, somebody that I've been watching keenly,
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because unlike those who have moved, I guess, by crowd capture, this man seems strong even
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Let's start with people who don't know who, what, when, why.
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Yeah, well, it started, it's funny, I started like, you know, four or five years ago with
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this conservative commentary, and I was just, you know, basically talking about the same
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thing everybody else is talking about, you know, Trump and conservative politics, daily
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I think you're alluding more towards the October 7th type of stuff.
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It was, I didn't approach it from like a pro-Israel perspective.
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I approached it from an anti-terrorist perspective.
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You know, you're in Australia, but in America, if you're over the age of 35, you remember what
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And for some of us, me in particular, that stuck, you know, that whole slogan, never forget,
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And, you know, it gave me reminders of the, you know, the journalists that had their heads
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cut off from ISIS, and just the long history of, you know, radical Islamic terrorists doing
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But this time, they recorded it, they recorded it, they uploaded it, and they put it on Telegram.
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It was a blatant slap in the face, like, hey, this is what we're doing.
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And I was, I was taking a perspective that I thought was going to be very popular.
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I didn't think that there was any way that I was going to be the outcast in my own party.
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But as you were saying, there's, there's this movement of people that have, they've either
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gone to the isolationist America only, the extreme Christian fundamentalists who don't
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interpret the Bible properly, or these, even worse, basically just fucking Nazis, man.
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Like, I don't like using the term Nazi, because it sounds kind of like a liberal thing to do.
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But these people are, these people are straight up, like, they are, you got accounts on the
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internet, like, one of them that comes to mind, Myron Gaines.
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You know, they're, they're mostly just clout chasing.
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I don't think that they actually really in their heart of hearts believe this shit, but
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And how did I not get, uh, how did I not, you know, sort of fall in line with the rest
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I could either be popular and like Hitler, or I can get a lot of pushback and not.
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So the, um, the Jewish people saw me standing up to these types and, um, they started, you
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know, messaging me and, and you get to know the, the Jewish community.
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And then you obviously want to learn about what you're talking about.
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I started learning about history and I'm also a, a Catholic Christian who, um, you know,
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I, I wouldn't say I'm a, a, a biblical scholar, but you know, I was, I was confirmed when
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I'm, I've been on and off practicing since I was a little kid and, and it's states pretty
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Uh, I will bless thee that bless them and I will curse thee that curse them.
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So to answer your question, that long winded answer, 9, 11, never forget Genesis 12, one
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It's, it's a not, you, I'm, I'm not moving on those two things.
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So I guess, I guess the question for, for many of us would be, especially Jews, like what,
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Um, you know, I don't know Myron's history, but.
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You know, we look at somebody like Candace Owens and you look at Candace Owens, uh, uh,
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four years, five years ago, Candace Owens was saying the exact opposite as to what she was
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saying, what she says now, like the opposite makes the opposing argument.
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It's, it's not like, well, it's not like, you know, when somebody can, can make the argument
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that they were just misinformed, they didn't understand much.
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No, you're talking about people that were literally on the, on the front line of the
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You see Tucker Carlson, uh, he's moving that way.
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Well, you see Tucker Carlson, uh, old clips of him, even from 20 years ago, literally bagging
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So it's not like when somebody acts like they're misinformed, it's like, I, I never actually
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We're talking about people that say that whether in Tucker Carlson's case, 20 years ago, whether
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in Candace Owens, five years ago, where they knew the other side, they were taking down the
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And then they shifted over to this new populist position on the right, which is anti everything
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So as Islamic attacks happen now in Europe, suddenly you don't see people like Candace Owens
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And if they are, it's with a question, what, who does this serve as in like the Mossad is
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now creating these terrorist attacks, um, just to gain sympathy in Gaza or something like
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Um, first of all, a lot, it's, it's not just one thing, a lot, some of it's opportunism,
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So there's, uh, there's opportunities that expand when you take a contrarian point of view.
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Now I say all the time, Candace Owens is an actual antisemite because she's smart enough
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What you're saying is, um, the ignorance and the group think excuse is, is a valid one.
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There are people that are literally just ignorant.
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Um, and they don't believe what they're saying.
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They're not actually antisemite semites, but they, they think it's getting them views.
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She's smart enough, like you said, five years ago, she was, she's, she was in Jerusalem
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fricking, um, for the, I believe it was for the Golan Heights thing.
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Uh, I think it was, uh, it was, uh, Trump's, uh, um, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, moving
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She was at the official, you know, she was, she was one of the fangirls.
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And, um, you know, a few years before that she wasn't religious at all.
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You remember in 2018, she was on the Joe Rogan podcast saying she doesn't understand Christianity.
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So she became this, this new type of Christian that I'm not a big fan of the, these, uh, Christ
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for clicks people, I call them where they, they just started Christianity that Russell
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Just, I think last year or the year before it was like, I just started reading the Bible.
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How about you fucking wait a little bit before you start preaching?
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In fact, I didn't know that about, I didn't know that about Candace.
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Like I said, Candace Owens, Russell brand, Tucker Carlson, these big people.
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Um, I would argue that they're, they're intelligent enough to know that they should not be speaking
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on something this, um, deep if they aren't, you know, experts.
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Maybe with Tucker and Russell brand, they, they think, oh, I read it.
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Um, I believe, I really, truly believe this is paid off right there.
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I, I think that she is, um, being funded in some way or being compensated in some way
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for her views, because her view is I'm not antisemitic.
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You know, let's talk about the, but all these historic incidents that have nothing to do
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with Israel somehow lead to this group that I don't want to name.
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I give them all other, um, yeah, I know what you're talking about, but it's like, so the
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thing about Candace is, uh, today is a perfect example.
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There is, um, there's this, this, I don't know what you call it, a ceremony, uh, where
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there, where Hamas is parading around these Jewish dead babies and they're putting them
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And it's just this, this big spectacle and showing, and she should be coming out.
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Now, some people are like, she doesn't have to talk about every little thing.
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So wouldn't you at least attempt to be, uh, even or, uh, or objective and try to look like
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you're covering both sides, condemnation of at least the worst atrocities, but no, she's
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talking about Blake Lively and Bridget McCrone having a penis.
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So there is no, it, the silence was sometimes silence speaks louder than words.
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There's also, um, uh, sorry, Muslims in, I, I think it's the Congo, uh, came out today,
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Her page is all about, uh, the fact that the Bolsheviks slaughtered Christians and, and
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it's all about how she's this new good Christian.
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But when Muslims are slaughtering Christians, she's silent about that too.
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So I think that she's based off of that behavior.
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I think that her, she is focusing on an agenda and that agenda is, um, being a useful idiot
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Like I would say there's somebody paying her, somebody compensating her.
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but Qatari government, Andrew Tate is her friends with
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And I don't know the connections there, but there's something going on with her.
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And, uh, and, uh, to finalize this, uh, to answer your question, the, the, the general
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overall, I guess you could call it a movement with this Jew hate.
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I would summarize the rest of these people as groupthink, um, indoctrination.
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If, if somebody's not, uh, moving the right chess pieces around on the internet, some people
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If there isn't a psyop going on, useful idiots are only useful.
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If they're idiots, these people are mostly just idiots.
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Um, so when you talk about Candace, I want to, uh, I hear what you're saying about thinking
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I feel like she's, she self-radicalized during the COVID period.
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Um, and then there was a whole Kanye saga and she got a little taste of how much, uh, kind
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of that, um, that audience, that radical low IQ audience that get really hyped up.
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As soon as you talk about Jews, she noticed that then, um, then she broke up with Ben
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Opportun, opportunistic is, is definitely part of it.
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I just felt like, does anyone really need to pay her beyond, you know?
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She's making good, good bank on, on, on her website, on her, um, on YouTube.
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She's been monetized through this whole period.
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Um, so, and I've never said anything almost as, as hateful or as crazy as what she has.
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Um, so I don't know if she even needs other funding.
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I guess maybe somebody helped to set up her project, but I don't even think she needs funding.
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I think the funding is coming from that massive audience.
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She does have a huge audience because guess what?
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There are many groups that may disagree on a lot of stuff like the extreme right and the
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extreme left, but they agree on probably their most important issue of the last year and a
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The jihadis, the, the, um, the, you know, the groups within the West here.
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So, you know, popular names on what they call Dawah, which are, which are jihadis in the West
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that actually, again, agree on one, one main cause.
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And that's been, uh, Israel's Israel and the Jews.
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So there's this huge audience that she's captured by doing this.
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It's opportunistic, absolutely opportunistic, but does she need more than that?
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If she's not ideologically driven, if she's a chameleon who can go from being a far leftist
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back in, you know, 2012, 2004 to 2015, and then switch over to the moderate right where
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she sounded to me, like she was making a lot of sense and then sort of drain that well dry
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and then move to a completely different ideology of an unpopular right wing view, which is, um,
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anti Israel because the majority of people on the right are, they, they support Israel.
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Um, then if she's not ideologically driven, then she's opportunistic.
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So w what is the opportunity that she's looking for?
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And like I said, I think it's financial and maybe attention.
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She could very well just be a narcissist who takes every contrarian view when she sees the opportunity
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If she's like that, then this is, it's just, it's just what it is.
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And, and, and just wait and wait till it shifts back.
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I always said, I always said this about, about, um, with Trump getting in is that a lot of these
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voices, I don't know if necessarily her, but a lot of these voices, um, because with her specifically,
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you know, she used the fact that she was, oh, I can't be anti, I'm not anti Israel.
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Oh, I was actually there when he, when Trump DMs, I have a Jewish producer.
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It's like, but it's not, it's not even that it's like, yeah, you were there because you
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were grifting then because then you got in with the Trump administration at the time accepted
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So, so you were, you were in, in the club and they invited you and you thought, oh, cool.
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You went there because you truly love and believe in Israel.
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Yeah, no, that's well, and that's what I'm saying when I say she's antisemitic because
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she's smart, she's anti-Semitic because she's smart enough to be one.
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I don't mean that he necessarily is ideological.
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You, you have to figure out who's just hating the Jews because they follow Candace and it's
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Like there was one girl who just said she was divorcing her husband.
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She was divorcing her husband because he booed Taylor Swift at the, at the Superbowl.
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So Candace follower, not let, we don't have to use Candace, just the followers of these
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Um, I think that they're just, if tomorrow Candace was like, we like the Jews, they would
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So I, I think she would lose a lot because I think there are, she, she has a, uh, uh,
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I'd be interested in seeing her analytics because I believe that today, a lot of them will be,
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um, international, you know, she'll have a lot of he's on there.
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She'll have a lot of what I noticed about Candace.
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Like so many other people, what I noticed, and this is a rule that I give to everybody.
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If I'm agree, if, if your comment section and your supporters, right.
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The people that are agreeing with you are my, are people that I vehemently disagree with.
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Then I consider it meaning that I don't agree with you.
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So when Candace started jumping on this bandwagon at the very beginning,
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who were the people that were being the loudest?
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It was the radical left, the people that were doing the college protest,
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The, um, the, the, the Democrats, the, the, the, I stand with Ukraine people.
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And when I see a lot of those people in Candace's comment section, like, yay,
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And I'm like, I'm like, Hey, uh, something's up here.
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It's the hypocrisy behind these accounts, right?
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Like these accounts who are claiming to be based trad Christians who are essentially
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what they really are is radical right activists, anything.
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If you go far enough away from the middle in either direction, you're a radical.
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And you tend to end up in the same position at the end of the day.
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So, um, you know, the further and further radical she got, the less I,
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and you know, I'm seeing it with Tucker Carlson now.
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Cause I know, I know, I know I was probably in the same boat.
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In fact, I think I was in on her show during COVID when the first red flags were coming out.
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I, even then I felt a little bit uncomfortable.
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Because I question myself, I think, do I like people because of confirmation bias?
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Because they're just saying what I happened to agree with.
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And then I watched back some of the stuff that I got, oh my God, she was just as annoying and,
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and lacking any kind of, uh, um, real, you know, thought out position.
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There was no, she was, she was lacking original thought.
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I've, I talked to people that have been on her show in person.
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Um, and they said that she's very scripted and she's not a very smart person in, in person.
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I'm just telling you this, this has been perpetrated, but yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.
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Like when I look back at that, like even Tucker Carlson, I've watched back some of these.
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Once you pick up one of these things, once you get, once you get red pilled on, on anything,
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You start questioning how the fuck did I, how did I like Andrew Tate?
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I don't know how you feel about him and it's okay if you like him or what, but I, I,
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there are certain people that I used to support that now I see the, uh, the curtain open on.
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I went back and looked at Candace's, um, hearings in Congress where she was talking about how
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Hitler was a nationalist and this, that, and the other.
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Maybe these people that we are looking for confirmation bias, maybe some of the people
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that we're following and, and aligning with, we're subconsciously just agreeing with them.
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You know, there's probably viewers now looking at this guy and shit, I can't wait till I disagree
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with Avi and then realize he was actually, um, he, he, he was silly.
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I don't know why I followed that little midget.
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And, uh, and I, like I said, I mean, we've got two examples of me, um, being tricked and fooled.
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So, uh, I'm not gonna sit here and say it's never happened to me, but what I try to do,
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What I try to do is I try to look at somebody and say, do I believe that they believe what
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And it doesn't matter if they're right, left or center.
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Do I believe that he believes what he's saying?
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So I can, I can be a supporter of somebody if I believe that what they believe they're
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As long as it doesn't, you know, uh, if it's not, you know, let's kill babies up until birth.
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I believe he, I believe that he meant it the first time, but, um, it's, you just have to look
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at, is this person being honest or are they being fake?
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And I think if you apply that to Andrew Tate, it's actually a perfect example.
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Because you know, you know, that, um, before he reverted to Islam, um, you know, he used to
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I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm good friends with Tommy Robinson.
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I have been for years and I know him and Andrew Tate kind of grew up together in Luton and Andrew
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I mean, if, if you're a Muslim in Romania, you're, you're able to justify, let's say,
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I'm not saying this is what he did, but being a Muslim in Romania, and I don't know if you know
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about the Romanian law, about how, how fast and loose they are with, uh, looking the other way
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on certain crimes, especially like the ones that Andrew Tate, uh, is, uh, charged with.
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But being a Muslim in Romania is exactly where I would go.
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If I wanted to sex traffic, young girls, that's exactly what I would do.
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He was never think about when he, when he reverted,
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he reverted at his lowest when they, when they de-platformed him from everything.
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And you got to remember, he saw what they did to his friend, Tommy Robinson.
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And they actually successfully at the time, de-person Tommy Robinson.
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He was, he went from being like, I remember back in the days, you'd go on, um, Facebook
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And you could say whatever you want on any platform.
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Tommy Robinson would go live walking down the street, just go live, just talking to his phone.
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And there would be 20, 30, 40,000 people watching within minutes.
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That's how captivated people were by this personality.
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And I think a lot of that comes down to, and I haven't thought about it in the way you,
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you, you articulated it now is that I think people are attracted to genuine, like,
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do they believe he's saying, and, and about those issues.
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I've walked down the street with Tommy Robinson and I've seen, and I've seen from the inside,
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If you do not believe the core issues and people were attracted to it.
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And then overnight they took it away from him, like literally ended him.
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He's only come back since Elon Musk let him back.
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Um, and, and again, people are attracted to the realness of him.
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Well, he realized that crap, I need an audience that are not going to be swayed by
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that, that these big tech, uh, or the government can control.
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And the perfect, uh, group for that, uh, Muslims, because there's so many of them in the world
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that even if they kicked, because Andrew Tate thought his only position will be Rumble.
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So he needed an audience to come over to Rumble that, um, would idolize him.
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And he jumped onto Rumble and, and all these Muslims joined and he had this massive thing.
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And they were all like, they were all promoting him.
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And all these jihadi Muslims, like Muhammad Hijab in, in, in, in, in the UK.
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Like if you identify somebody that follows Soleimani, it just is so cringy because when
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you hear him talk, he can never actually, I spoke with him one time.
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And he sounds like he's been living in his grandmother's basement for too many years.
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Um, but, but he's not like, he's not an original thing.
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He's not a, yeah, he's not like, like there's Mara Nufall and then there's Soleimani.
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The fall of, the fall of Syria was probably the interesting, that's the only part where
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I started like really watching those guys because I, it was so, um, it was exciting to see how
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they were suddenly that they were fighting each other because you have all these big names
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that all agreed, even just within the Islamic world, all agreed on one thing.
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And then obviously you had the fall of Assad and half of them were Assadists.
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The other half were, uh, aligning themselves with this, uh, Al Qaeda guy.
00:27:43.420
And I'm just sitting on the side going, pass me the popcorn.
00:27:46.540
This is amazing because you guys actually don't stand for anything except for your hate for Israel.
00:27:51.020
Um, but I don't know how we got to where we are now.
00:27:57.180
I forgot too, but you know, to, to jump off of that one, one point, um, you know,
00:28:01.180
this is what I say all the time that Islam can't coexist with a peaceful society.
00:28:05.580
And sometimes people say it can't coexist with Western civilization.
00:28:08.940
No, it can't coexist with a peaceful society because if Israel isn't there to hate,
00:28:14.220
Just like you were saying, if there's, there's this, um, there's this weird practice, uh,
00:28:20.940
I don't know if you're familiar with it where they, uh, they basically use
00:28:25.500
in the modern interpretation of it, they use useful idiots and propaganda to confuse people
00:28:34.940
And in the Quran, it says you're allowed to lie if, you know, and they, they,
00:28:42.060
So the, in order to further Islam, you get useful idiots.
00:28:45.020
Like, and furthering Islam is also the conquest.
00:28:49.580
Well, it's a convert, it's a converter killed death cult, but also it's an expansionist
00:28:54.940
The, the, the Christianity is, I guess you could say expansionist where we're accepting,
00:29:03.340
And Judaism is exclusionary where they're not even trying to bring people in.
00:29:13.180
So, but you have one religion that is not a neutral religion like Christianity.
00:29:21.500
It's an, it's a con it's a, basically, if you look at the expansion of the Arab nations
00:29:26.940
in the middle east over the course of 80 years, it looks like cancer growing.
00:29:33.180
They're going from, you know, these, these places like Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and they're
00:29:37.340
moving all the way into Africa, wiping out the Christians in their way.
00:29:43.100
Listen, I have nothing against peaceful Muslims, but we were talking about this last night on,
00:29:48.060
on a, a space that I was in where if you, if you look at the, the more you adhere to a certain
00:29:58.540
If you adhere strictly to Christianity, you become an accepting, loving, tolerant, tolerant
00:30:04.220
If you, if you adhere strictly to Judaism, you become accepting, loving, tolerant person.
00:30:08.780
If you adhere strictly to Islam, you become a convert or kill radical Islamic terrorist.
00:30:16.300
So the peaceful Muslims that are out there, and there are many, there's 1.9 billion of them.
00:30:23.260
Those people have to ignore their own religion in order to be peaceful.
00:30:27.660
So I, I, I agree to, I'll tell you a little secret.
00:30:30.380
I've got, um, two Muslim stepkids, um, and they come from a family that is, that don't
00:30:37.260
And, uh, you know, I've also got some neighbors right here that, that, uh, um,
00:30:44.620
I mean, they just pray to God five times a day and they don't take the, they don't take
00:30:53.820
They can't be because it can't be contextualized.
00:30:55.980
So anyway, this phenomenon that we're seeing within the Christian world, because that's,
00:31:01.660
Um, there are, you know, one thing I've always found is true Christians and I'm obviously
00:31:08.780
judging it as somebody who I grew up in an ultra Orthodox Jewish family.
00:31:15.100
Like I said, I've got my, my, I'm, I'm so good at getting married.
00:31:23.420
My, my wife comes from, um, she's a white Christian, um, background, but so I, I don't,
00:31:32.460
I identify as Jewish more from the ethnic position rather than, you know, you're more agnostic.
00:31:38.220
Like, yeah, I, I probably don't care that much.
00:31:42.060
I, I, uh, like everyone I'm, I, I live and let live.
00:31:45.500
But one thing I've always noticed is, um, and I fight for people's right to practice and
00:31:50.620
believe in whatever, as long as you're not hurting me.
00:31:54.860
But one thing I've noticed like over the years, so genuine Christians are the ones that you
00:32:01.340
probably don't see online that much, to be honest, you don't see them.
00:32:04.460
They're not, they're not the loudest because they are really nice.
00:32:10.140
And, you know, they always preach to me about Jesus and, you know, but they do it in a really
00:32:16.620
Like they're always trying to bring me in a loving way where, as opposed to, for the example,
00:32:22.860
Islamists, when they try, so people that are radical Christians to me, and I know you use
00:32:28.220
that term when you were referring to the, I think that this new group of Christians from the,
00:32:36.620
They're people that have jumped on it and, and then they're like,
00:32:40.700
And they use it like, they weaponized Christ is king.
00:32:43.980
And then if you say anything back, oh, you don't believe Christ is king.
00:32:51.740
Whereas the real Christians that I've always met over time, um, come to me like,
00:32:56.620
oh, and, and they preach to me to, to join them.
00:32:59.340
And then like, I banter with them and they just, they, they go a lot.
00:33:09.340
I mean, Christianity, if you follow, so here's the, here's an issue with these, uh, Christ for
00:33:15.020
clicks, the people that we were talking about, I call them chat GPT Christians, right?
00:33:19.020
Where they're literally doing what you're doing, what you said.
00:33:21.420
They're weaponizing passages out of the Bible to use as talking points so that they can, uh,
00:33:27.100
have confirmation bias on their own ideology, not a religious ideology, just any ideology,
00:33:33.340
If they believe something, they're going to figure out how to make the Bible work so that
00:33:38.780
And anybody that disagrees with them, you're, yeah, like you said, you're a demon, you're,
00:33:45.340
There are good Christians that are online and they're, you're right.
00:33:47.820
There are not that many of them like Ali B. Stuckey and Johnny Root.
00:34:00.540
And they don't, the thing about Christianity, if you look at it from New Testament forward,
00:34:09.580
You have to include all of the Bible because it's all.
00:34:16.860
Judeo-Christian literally just means that it's a, it's a shared value system.
00:34:22.460
I just, I love how that term has now, they don't understand what it means.
00:34:29.260
That's the problem with Christ for clicks and chat GPT Christians.
00:34:34.700
Judeo-Christian doesn't mean I stand with Israel.
00:34:37.180
It means a, a shared value system between two religions that are connected and read the
00:34:43.340
same book and Judeo-Christian applies to America because of that system.
00:34:48.940
It, they don't seem to be freaking out about the term Greco-Roman, right?
00:34:56.140
It's not, it doesn't mean Greece and Rome or fucking it's, it's Greco-Roman.
00:35:02.460
So anyway, like I was saying, the, the Christians, um, that are following Christ, uh, they, your
00:35:16.300
So a lot of Christians fundamentalists are saying that, you know, homosexuality is a
00:35:22.380
And the ones that are true Christians will accept a homosexual person, but they won't
00:35:29.900
You'll never hear a true Christian saying what you are doing is right.
00:35:34.700
That's not a true Christian, but you'll also never hear a true Christian saying you're going
00:35:39.020
to burn in hell for what you're doing because that's not a true Christian.
00:35:45.180
All of the judgment and punishment in Christianity is reserved for one person and one person only,
00:35:52.780
So we're, so the soap box, fake chat GPT, Christ for clicks, Christ is King Christians,
00:35:59.580
like Candace Owens, who are constantly telling people that they're going to hell.
00:36:05.340
It's impossible for them to be Christians because they are, their behavior is antithetical
00:36:13.980
And so just about you, your background, I, I'm assuming you are a Christian.
00:36:21.340
I'm a Catholic Christian, you know, and I do go to a non-denominational church now,
00:36:25.660
but just because I, I went and saw, have you seen the movie Sound of Freedom?
00:36:29.420
Uh, no, but I have, I've been told a lot to go watch it.
00:36:33.740
The movie actually changed my life to be honest.
00:36:38.540
I was, um, a few years ago, I think it came out on the 4th of July weekend.
00:36:45.260
I went and saw that movie just because, you know, it looked like a good movie.
00:36:50.140
And I had one of these moments that you hear about from, you know, like all these, um,
00:36:54.780
reborn, reborn people, like, you know, uh, where I was like, I just felt something.
00:36:59.340
And I go, you got, you should go back to church.
00:37:01.660
And a friend of mine at the time was going to this non-denominational mega church.
00:37:05.340
And I, I just text her after the movie and I go, can I come with you to church on Sunday?
00:37:12.540
I walked across the threshold of this church and I'm not joking, bro.
00:37:17.580
The same thing happened to me years ago in the year 2000.
00:37:26.380
And, um, and I walked into St. Peter's Basilica and I had the same feeling.
00:37:32.620
It's like a, it's like a hug from something that you can't see.
00:37:36.060
So that was a couple of years ago and I, it was before October 7th.
00:37:43.180
I remember it was 2023 because this was a few months before October 27th or yeah.
00:37:51.420
So for me, I was a non-practice, I was a very heavily practicing
00:38:01.020
I went and saw the Pope in Italy and I've always sort of been a Christian, but I also
00:38:05.500
had my bad boy phase where I was, you know, living in Florida, doing lines of Coke off
00:38:09.740
of a fucking toilet seat and, and sleeping with every girl that would say hi to me.
00:38:14.780
And, and, uh, and then I grew up, you know, I started my own business and I, I started living
00:38:22.860
And, um, a couple of years ago, I just said, I said, yeah, fuck it.
00:38:27.900
And, uh, and here we are, you know, it's almost like, I believe, um, you know, that God has
00:38:34.380
a plan and, and my path was supposed to put me here to be a voice for these people that
00:38:45.580
If I'm not speaking out, if people like me aren't speaking out, then they won't be heard.
00:38:51.020
If, if, if it's Muslims and Christians against Jews, Jews lose.
00:38:57.580
And, and, and I'd argue Christians then we'll lose too.
00:39:04.140
It's so bizarre to me that, but it's so bizarre to me that these guys that I like the term,
00:39:14.940
Because, you know, you see that they do whatever mental gymnastics they can to avoid ever having to,
00:39:22.780
um, to call out, you know, jihadi attacks these days.
00:39:26.700
Um, and the thing is the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
00:39:31.020
Well, the thing is, as soon as you get the Jews out of the way,
00:39:38.540
Unlike the Jews, the Jews don't put up much resistance.
00:39:42.300
You think, you think they're in all these positions of power, but,
00:39:47.180
Heck, they've got a really bad rap for somebody that runs the media in the last two years.
00:39:51.820
So we, we can't even agree on the most basic things like Jews is like,
00:39:58.620
well, they're doing a bad job at everything that they accuse them of.
00:40:03.260
The Palestinian population has increased by 2%.
00:40:06.140
But, um, you know, to, to piggyback off of that, right.
00:40:10.540
It's if first they come for the Saturday people, then they come for the Sunday people.
00:40:15.980
If it's, if these, I know you're not American, but most of these accounts that I'm seeing are American.
00:40:21.660
The, these Americans that are using this tagline, America first, I don't fucking support the Jews
00:40:30.700
It's like you're America only you're talking about isolationism.
00:40:35.260
And the, if you want to look at it and take God out of it, take the religious part out of it,
00:40:41.020
Israel, the, the nation state of Israel, right?
00:40:46.380
The current nation state of Israel is an ally for these reasons.
00:40:51.100
They are fighting our enemies and we have a, we have a productive net positive financial
00:40:59.260
So if you're America first, you should be with standing with Israel from a, from a purely selfish
00:41:08.860
If Israel isn't there to stop these, um, these terrorists, right.
00:41:16.700
Do you think that they're not going to try to plan another nine 11?
00:41:19.660
We just had a fucking guy with a ISIS flag on the back of his truck drive into a crowd of people.
00:41:26.220
But what you're missing is they only do all of that because America helps the Jews.
00:41:34.540
I mean, it's really, this is the problem that I've found in the last couple of years.
00:41:38.060
Like there is zero point arguing with any of them because it just, it's just a big circle.
00:41:45.420
And the only way you can actually prove that they're a special sort of, uh, person is until
00:41:54.460
they're, until the terrorists are at their gate and after there are no Jews left, because you can't,
00:42:00.540
you can't actually prove to them that, that they're going to lose.
00:42:05.500
Like, I don't even think who, look, these people think they're so brave and, and I love
00:42:10.380
when they talk about, you know, when they post that, um, you know, who is the one group you can't
00:42:16.620
It's like, dude, that's literally all you do online is criticize.
00:42:22.540
I don't think you ever will defeat them because you're so dog shit dumb.
00:42:27.900
But if you ever did succeed in your mission, you are done.
00:42:32.780
You're next because the, the, the people in front of you are other, those Jews that you
00:42:39.020
hate so much that don't enforce anything on you.
00:42:56.620
It's like, the Jews are literally this tiny little country, the size of New Jersey fighting
00:43:01.980
an entire fucking, uh, this in their own region fighting radical Islamic terrorists.
00:43:08.540
So that there's this, they're just holding this door shut.
00:43:11.580
And you people are fucking trying to stab Hodor.
00:43:15.100
Let me ask you before you go, what, where do you think this is going?
00:43:18.460
So I think, cause everything that happens in America kind of follows suit here in Australia,
00:43:24.780
in the UK, across the West, where are you heading?
00:43:31.260
Are we going to see more people jump on that bandwagon or are they going to lose their, um,
00:43:43.180
Um, I get a good read on certain things that the, the, the anti-Jew crowd is going
00:43:48.700
to be flat earthers in about five years, right?
00:43:51.420
They're because the thing is what they're saying is ridiculous.
00:43:58.060
But what's happening right now is the same thing that happened with flat earthers, right?
00:44:02.140
When flat earthers were, were this movement in the nineties where they were like, you know,
00:44:05.980
just constantly talking about conspiracy theories, whatever people didn't care to even argue
00:44:12.620
They didn't even really give a shit because what they were saying was so ridiculous.
00:44:17.660
The initial past couple of years, a year and a half or so, right?
00:44:22.460
People haven't really understood how ridiculous they're saying what they're saying is because
00:44:28.780
But now that they're getting louder, it's a good thing.
00:44:34.380
There's a lot of people that think you should silence these people, right?
00:44:37.180
Like, oh, take Kanye, take Kanye off, take Kanye's account down.
00:44:44.060
Kanye right now is associating a mental disorder with antisemitism.
00:44:48.860
He is the biggest gift that you could possibly get right now.
00:44:51.980
It's like, you want them to keep speaking because the more they speak, the more people
00:44:56.860
And when they get big enough, when they get to flat earther level where people are actually
00:45:01.260
paying attention, the right people, they're going to hear what they're saying.
00:45:10.380
No, it's, it's not as big of a movement as people think it is a problem.
00:45:16.700
What I'm doing here is I, I don't know if you've really caught on to what my,
00:45:26.780
I grab these people up and whenever they say something ridiculous, I say something
00:45:30.380
that's educational and funny and people get, get levity out of it because that's how you
00:45:40.460
I think mocking them in Australia, passing all this new legislation and often in the Jewish
00:45:45.580
community's name, um, when ironically they haven't enforced the actual laws that we have
00:45:56.460
I will say one more thing real quick, cause it's, it's tied to that question.
00:45:59.260
I don't want to forget the move that Donald Trump is talking about with, um, moving these
00:46:03.740
people, the Palestinians out of Gaza and rebuilding it.
00:46:06.860
This is a 4d chess move that is going to potentially create a long lasting peace situation in that
00:46:16.780
Because I actually think it's a 4d chess move just because it's good negotiating strategy
00:46:26.140
If that does come to fruition, you get Saudi Arabia, you get Jordan, you get a bunch of
00:46:30.540
other surrounding nations to invest while Donald Trump sort of delegates this and put a bunch
00:46:34.940
of properties in the middle of a region that used to be occupied by people that wanted to
00:46:40.700
Now, if I ran or any other country decides, Hey, you know what?
00:46:52.780
But Donald Trump could be, I think he's doing this.
00:46:55.180
I think what he's trying to do is create a visual representation of the Abraham accords with
00:47:02.220
And if he does that, that is going to be a very damaging tool to the Ayatollah.
00:47:07.740
So my question to you is, do you think he's really means moving the 2 million people in
00:47:14.700
Gaza or he's looking for investment into something in the Gaza Strip where the Gazans will still
00:47:26.620
I just was on a podcast with the opposition leader to the King of Jordan last week, and he
00:47:31.980
was talking about how the Palestinians in Jordan and in Egypt would be very accepting
00:47:40.700
And those Palestinians that are there don't want to be there because Trump's right.
00:47:46.940
Israel bombed every fucking building over there, right?
00:47:51.420
Even if they want to stay there for an ideological reason, they don't want to stay there because
00:47:57.420
So moving them out, what he's going to do, what I believe he's going to do is Trump's
00:48:03.500
He's going to create settlements and he's going to make deals with Jordan and with Egypt.
00:48:08.540
He's going to make these little, I would say, trailer parks most likely, right?
00:48:13.740
And he's going to actually move out these 2 million people.
00:48:16.700
Then he's going to go in and he's going to rebuild, not, not America, by the way, he's
00:48:22.300
going to delegate the rebuilding of Gaza to anybody that wants to invest in it.
00:48:28.380
And once you get Saudi Arabia and other surrounding nations, it could be, it could be England.
00:48:35.980
If Australia puts a resort in the middle of Israel and Iran fires a rocket and it hits your resort,
00:48:43.180
don't you think that Australia would be a little bit pissed about it?
00:48:47.660
I look, I think out of everything you've said in, in this, uh, interesting conversation over
00:48:54.300
47 minutes, um, I, I just can't see it happening.
00:49:01.500
I feel like Trump is, is, is doing what he's done with the tariffs.
00:49:05.820
And he's, you know, he's, he's, and you see it worked immediately.
00:49:10.540
They went from saying they're not going to release any more hostages because Israel broke
00:49:15.100
the, the, the, uh, ceasefire to suddenly releasing hostages as normal again.
00:49:20.860
And you know, that's kind of what Trump has been doing.
00:49:23.500
He says some like crazy thing up here and it brings the person back to where they are.
00:49:29.740
Like we're going to rename the Gulf of Mexico and then he fucking did it.
00:49:32.940
So you can't think that Trump is always just bluffing.
00:49:36.460
He might actually, I think the reason why his strategy is so effective is because everybody
00:49:42.460
knows that if you push him, he might just do his crazy idea and that's what makes it.
00:49:48.140
So if somebody just bluffs crazy things all the time, then at a certain point, people are
00:49:59.660
Um, so I think that he, I think that the reason why it is so effective is because he, he will,
00:50:05.500
like, I, I, I do think Trump would do that if everyone mocks him about it.
00:50:13.820
And I'm not saying that it's a hundred percent going to happen.
00:50:16.540
What I'm saying is, I think it would a hundred percent happen if, if everybody laughs at him
00:50:22.140
about it, if everybody calls his bluff about it, I think he will force Egypt and Jordan
00:50:27.660
And anybody who thinks that he doesn't have the power to force Egypt and Jordan to take
00:50:30.780
it are delusional that that just shows how much they don't know.
00:50:34.540
I love all these experts in the, on middle, you know, people who couldn't point to Israel
00:50:38.860
or Gaza on a map before, you know, six months ago, suddenly telling me how Egypt and Jordan
00:50:45.420
are going to operate when Trump tells them what to do.
00:50:47.580
You saw Jordan capitulate straight away, talk tough to the, you got to understand the, the,
00:50:57.340
the, the mentality, but also you've got to understand the facts.
00:51:02.780
Jordan is a propped up government by the U S Egypt, same shit, but none of these people
00:51:10.220
The, the only group that could survive ironically in the Middle East without America, it will
00:51:17.020
And I think that they should work towards that is Israel.
00:51:21.500
I think right now there's going to be four great years for Israel.
00:51:26.140
So you have another four or eight years after that, but after that period, at some point,
00:51:34.780
Israel needs to step away from being so reliant on, on American aid.
00:51:46.060
Well, the thing is the, the relationship with Israel, the aid, the aid is often misquoted
00:51:53.420
So I know that, but I'm saying like, so that nobody can make it.
00:51:57.660
Israel does need the U S and the self-reliance factor of them having the technology and the
00:52:03.020
nuclear capability to fight off their enemies is a straightforward.
00:52:08.140
Um, but what America does is it keeps them from having to even go there.
00:52:15.500
Where it's like, but if they had to go there, I would take Israel in that fight, believe it
00:52:20.780
And people don't realize how powerful they really are.
00:52:23.580
Before I let you go again, I've said this, um, I'm having too much fun in this conversation.
00:52:27.340
The, there's so much, um, in, in the last, what has it been now?
00:52:32.940
What are we, uh, it's been a month, a bit over a month.
00:52:36.300
Like almost every day, every second day, there's something amazing.
00:52:41.820
I just, I wake up and in Australia, we wake up like it's, it's your evening.
00:52:46.860
So everything's happened while we've been asleep.
00:52:48.620
We wake up in the morning and holy crap, Trump's done this.
00:52:52.460
What has been your, um, your favorite action, uh, executive order thing Trump has done since
00:53:08.060
I like the, the thing that I think that most people are excited about is doge.
00:53:12.700
Um, the thing that was most necessary is the border.
00:53:15.740
But what, uh, what I've been noticing about this, uh, the, you want to judge how effective
00:53:21.740
Trump's moves are by the reaction to them from the, from the left.
00:53:25.500
And the thing that they have reacted to so negatively and so forcefully is doge.
00:53:31.340
Which is finding all of this money that has been wasted on bullshit, like Sesame street
00:53:39.100
Um, and he's, he's literally just being so transparent with it.
00:53:43.420
They have a fucking website where you can go and look.
00:53:46.700
And like now they're going to go in and they're going to audit the IRS.
00:53:48.940
They're going to get rid of the department of education.
00:53:50.460
They're going to go in and do this and do this and do this.
00:53:52.540
And what you, what they also did was if you go on us debt clock.org, you can see the amount
00:53:58.380
of trip, the amount of trillions of dollars that just keeps going up.
00:54:03.980
And right under it, he put a fucking doge clock.
00:54:07.660
So it's showing in real time how much money they've found.
00:54:18.460
Cause I, every day I can go on and I can type in us debt clock.
00:54:27.340
Like I am a fucking rain man with numbers and I'm going, okay.
00:54:37.980
And if it keeps going at this pace, it's going to be $1.7 trillion by next year.
00:54:45.180
If it continues at this pace, that is the coolest thing that I think anyone has ever done is
00:54:51.020
actually come in and say, we're going to show you where your fucking money is going.
00:54:56.940
That is no president, no congressman, nobody has ever wanted to do that for us before.
00:55:03.340
I've got to say, uh, yeah, I think he's for me, I'm watching it.
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And I think the way he manages to trigger all the right people from all the different parts of the,
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Um, Dan Bogino says rock'em sock'em robots, right?
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Where the, the little robots are constantly punching.
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The strategy is don't stop punching because the time they're up with,
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they're upset about the right cross that they just took.
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You're already throwing a jab at them with something else.
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And then he just goes, no more trans people in the military.
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And then they get mad about no more trans people in the military.
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And he goes, we're going to defund the Department of Education.
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And then Department of Education, he goes, we're going to make Canada the 51st state.
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Um, but I think that beyond that, on top of that, he's, he's managing to piss off.
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He's pissing off that, that, that, you know, right, woke, right.
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Which are, you know, they're trying to tread carefully because they also know,
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like they're going to be politically isolated in a minute because that if,
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if they go totally against Trump, like they did, you saw a bunch of them did in the,
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And then they realized when Trump won, they were politically isolated
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Somebody who, who literally led the charge of campaigning against Trump in the lead up to
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So he, and he wasn't, you know, nobody can say he's part of the Democrats.
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He's not the left, but then he saw at the end of it.
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And I predicted as he was doing it, when he, when they lost, uh, when Trump won so,
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by so, so much, it meant that by definition, Nick Fuentes and that campaign was so irrelevant
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And so Nick Fuentes had to crawl back, like pretending like this was all part of his thing,
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because if he dared to support Trump, they were going to make it like Trump is a Nazi,
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which is just so laughable because the left are ready.
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The left always reported as Nick Fuentes, as a Trumper anyways, it had zero effect.
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Um, and so, but I think broader than that, that entire, you knew what you like, uh, what
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The unity party of bringing in, bringing in RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, um, and, and bringing in
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these moderates and former Democrats, we are not Republicans anymore.
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MAGA, I don't think ever was, but you, you got these, you got, like I said, alt-right,
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They know that if they don't have MAGA, like this is why Andrew Tate, look at how these people hate
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And the one person they will not criticize for liking Israel is Donald Trump.
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Oh, I know, some of them do, but then they, like, and not even Trump, um, uh, RFK Jr.
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He, so he's a massive Israel supporter, like huge, you know, he goes way too far for me because
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he accepts Rabbi Shmuley and I don't accept Rabbi Shmuley.
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Like I'm, I'm, I'm willing to, I fought in, in the Israeli army.
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I was, most of my service was in the Gaza Strip.
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Rabbi Shmuley almost makes me want to join Hamas.
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But, but, um, but you see somebody like Ian Carroll, who's popped up out of nowhere,
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He's promoting, you know, it's all about RFK Jr.
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is the biggest, you know, biggest win for Trump, but he ignores the fact that RFK Jr.
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is the guy that will never fold because of what you said in the beginning.
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He believes in what he, he believes in what he can pass.
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So he truly believes in the state of Israel and the Jewish people.
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And this Ian Carroll that spends his entire day trying to point out how evil, how pretty
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much the most evil thing is the Jews and Israel, but the guy that he's promoting because-
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It's, it's funny how, uh, we're about to wrap up because this is exactly how you opened.
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You asked me how I was able to keep my principles.
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Um, and the diff, the difference between people like me and Ian Carroll is if I was Ian Carroll,
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If, because I have principles, I believe what I'm saying, right?
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If, if, if Trump tomorrow was anti-Israel, I have Trump tattooed on my fucking leg, bro.
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I got, no, I got the, I got the fight tattoo and it's part of, that's just my arm.
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I got the, the one where he, where, where he just got shot.
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I got the fight tattoo and I got the, I'm getting the statue of Liberty.
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But, but anyway, if Trump tomorrow was, was disagreeing, I said, Trump, I don't,
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I didn't agree with him on the bump stock ban, the e-cigarette thing.
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There's things that Trump have done and I have vehemently called him out, right?
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I'm a constitutionalist first and I'm a Trump supporter second.
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So Ian is a opportunist who knows he can't call out, uh, RFK, even though he wants to.
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And I'm the type of person where I don't give a fuck.
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I will call out anybody because I have this core belief system
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I I'll have to have you back because I feel like there's so much to talk about.
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I enjoyed this conversation and appreciate your time tonight.
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The short videos, you're kind of the counter to people like Ian Carroll.
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And I know that it's much harder to do what you do because you get ratioed a lot more than
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taking the popular position that every far leftist,
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every neo-Nazi and every Islamist wants to support.
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It's just, it's, it's just a fact I've done the studies,
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Uh, my, my podcast is Tuesdays through Thursday mornings at seven central,
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And then I'm also on Instagram and X under the misfit Patriot.