Rebel News Podcast - AVI YEMINI ｜ Round two： Nas Daily drops BOMBSHELL at reuinion with Avi Yemini

00:00:00.000 Back in May 2022, I confronted Nasdaily as he entered the World Economic Forum in Davos.

00:00:06.820 That led to a heated debate in Dubai on everything from climate change to COVID-19.

00:00:12.180 The public backlash seemed to rattle him, and at WEF 2023,

00:00:17.180 Nasaya interrupted my interview with Luxembourg's Prime Minister before turning on my boss.

00:00:23.660 Now, I thought that was it, until I noticed his political views shifting on X over the last 18

00:00:29.480 months. Curious, I invited him onto the Yamini Report for an unscripted, no-holds-barred talk

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00:01:42.640 Welcome to the show to a guest that I don't think many of my viewers need an introduction

00:01:54.500 to. Or like. Yeah, maybe not, but maybe after this they will. You know what? You've grown

00:02:02.680 on me and we're going to get to there in a minute. I'm scared. I'm scared to call you Nas or Nasaya

00:02:11.120 because I got into a lot of trouble in past interactions for miscalling. What do you call

00:02:19.800 yourself these days? Well, Nasaya is my first name. And the minute you're successful enough,

00:02:28.880 people call you by your last name. So, see, we have the Yemeni Report, so congratulations.

00:02:34.060 So, wait. Nas is your last name? No, no. Nas means people in Arabic. It's the company name.

00:02:39.760 And you know what? We had this conversation because you took, because remember in the

00:02:43.300 debate, you kept saying, no, I'm Nasaya. Use my real name. And it threw me. It threw me

00:02:48.440 all the time. And I was like, I'm sure I didn't make this up. I'm sure. Like, I thought, oh, maybe

00:02:53.800 I was just being lazy and I was reading his, because it's Nasdaily and everybody calls you

00:02:57.760 Nasdaily because that's the name that you go by online. And then I'm like, I went back and I looked

00:03:03.500 at some of your original videos and you're like, hi, it's Nasaya. I'm like, hold on, this guy.

00:03:09.820 Okay. Avi, do you think people are allowed to change?

00:03:14.640 No, they're allowed. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. No, a hundred percent. I'm

00:03:19.080 somebody that I pride myself in changing. But I just want to say, it wasn't so bad that I

00:03:24.400 got it wrong when I actually got it from you and not only from being lazy in reading.

00:03:30.400 That's fair. But let the record show, because this is all recorded, is that I told you to

00:03:36.140 call me Nasaya 20 times and you still called me. You did tell me a few times and I do have

00:03:43.820 these weird things with names and it wasn't personal. I wasn't saying it to annoy you.

00:03:47.840 I actually had this thing, like sometimes I struggle if I don't, it's not a name that

00:03:51.080 I'm used to. I struggle to pronounce it. And then I'm like, I get into my own head as

00:03:56.760 to, oh my God, this is going to sound so weird that I can't pronounce this guy's name.

00:04:00.400 So it wasn't, it wasn't a tactic to throw you. I felt like the tactic was to throw me

00:04:06.280 to keep correcting me. Anyways, I, this morning, can I, can I, can I mention something? You

00:04:12.680 and I right now look so crazy similar. The hair is curly. It's the same as yours, the same

00:04:18.400 facial hair. And we're using this space right here to send a message to the world. Mine is

00:04:24.020 about living life and yours is about rebel, uh, being a rebel. So it is very interesting how

00:04:29.380 we're both. Yeah. It's like, it's too, it's too similar. Anyway, keep going.

00:04:33.800 Is it, is it freaking you out?

00:04:36.120 It's a bit freaking me out.

00:04:37.380 It's concerning. It's concerning.

00:04:39.260 Well, the funny thing is this morning, I, I, in the morning meeting at Rebel, um, I said

00:04:45.160 to him, so for, um, for the podcast, I'm, I'm actually, I've got Naz Daily on for the

00:04:50.260 podcast and everybody cracked up live. You're like, what? How did, how did this happen?

00:04:54.840 Because nobody knows that we've been, you know, talking privately for the last, I don't

00:05:01.100 know. I, I've got to look back at it, but it's, it's been probably the last.

00:05:04.220 And we like each other's tweets, weirdly enough. What the hell happened to the world?

00:05:08.500 Well, there we go. So it started private and then it's moved into a public space, but I

00:05:13.300 don't, one that I don't think people necessarily have realized yet because I haven't really gotten

00:05:18.560 into trouble for liking anything of yours yet. This podcast might change things, but I guess

00:05:25.080 let's just go over the, the, you know, where we first met and how we got to a place that

00:05:30.360 I think now, I know in the past I've confused the way I've read our relationship, but I think

00:05:37.700 now, uh, we're one of mutual respect and understanding and, and agreeing to disagree on political issues,

00:05:44.280 but seeing that we're actually not each other's enemy and correct me if you think I'm wrong.

00:05:48.720 Accurate. That's accurate.

00:05:49.800 All right. So we first met in 2021. It was, I think the first WEF after, um, COVID. So it

00:05:58.440 actually was the one in the summer.

00:05:59.560 Yes. You were innocently walking down the street towards the Congress.

00:06:05.840 Minding my own business.

00:06:07.920 Minding your own business, but you were at the World Economic Forum. So you probably were minding

00:06:13.800 all of our businesses as well. And I, I did what I do. And I, tell us what, be more descriptive.

00:06:23.560 What did you do? What, what, my audience knows what I do. I walk up to people and I challenge

00:06:29.480 their ideas.

00:06:30.360 Uninvited. Got it.

00:06:33.480 Uninvited. Well, that's the definition of journalism. So doorstepping is, is a journalistic tactic that

00:06:39.400 often those that are, that are approached don't enjoy. I, I get that. Um, now we had a bit of a

00:06:46.520 thing. Uh, you put out one version of the video that I think that I felt was a little bit unfairly

00:06:52.200 cut to, I put one. Anyways. Um, I challenged you to a debate. You agreed. I was too much,

00:07:01.960 too much shock. You agreed, which I gave you credit for at the time. And I came to Dubai.

00:07:07.960 But you betrayed me. You betrayed me in that debate.

00:07:11.480 This is what I remember. You betrayed me.

00:07:13.640 We'll get, we'll get to it. We'll get to the bitch-o. Um, and I came to Dubai. We did the, 1.00

00:07:21.240 we did the debate. I won the debate. Um, is this the part you're disagreeing about?

00:07:29.720 I mean, it's like Biden saying, you know, he won the debate with Trump. It's like, yes,

00:07:34.760 he won the debate. I'm the Biden in this situation.

00:07:38.920 Yeah. I mean, I'm younger.

00:07:41.880 Yeah. Do you know what's funny is that back then, probably if we used that analogy of Biden

00:07:46.440 and Trump, you would have wanted to be the Biden and you would have been happy for me to be the

00:07:51.800 Trump. How things have changed. Um, but you know what? People can go watch. We, we actually do still,

00:07:57.480 you know, after we left all that and all came out, I actually, or Rebel bought the URL nasdebates.com

00:08:04.840 so that we can- Oh yes, you did.

00:08:06.600 We have the nasdebates.com, which is your shtick. And that's where people can actually go watch

00:08:12.600 either the little clips or the entire, I think it was like two hours. 1.00

00:08:15.880 My fucker. 0.99

00:08:17.560 Why do you think, why do you think, why do you say that I, what did you say? I, I, 1.00

00:08:26.600 what did I do to you?

00:08:27.480 That's, oh, well, okay. First of all, number one, that is insane that nasdebates goes to

00:08:33.480 rebel.news.com slash tag slash nasdaily. How nasdaily-

00:08:37.480 Does it come up? Does it come up? Does it come up? Wait, hold on. Does it,

00:08:40.600 it might've been not changed to the new website nasdebates.com. Does it actually show up? Because

00:08:47.080 if not, we'd better get this fixed. Oh, no, I don't, is that it?

00:08:52.680 Abhimany destroys nasdebates.com.

00:08:54.040 Oh, full debate, full debate. Yeah, yeah, you got it here. So, but there's one here where you can watch,

00:08:58.840 watch, no, uh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:09:03.560 Look, just, just promise me that-

00:09:05.080 Hold on, this is not okay. I'm going to make sure that when this goes up,

00:09:08.840 I'm going to make sure when this goes up, um, on Tuesday that the, that this is not right,

00:09:14.440 because they've changed the website since then. So it should have like the,

00:09:17.160 the full unedited debate should be there. No, no, no.

00:09:21.720 Got it. It's good. It's good.

00:09:23.320 Did you think I didn't put that up?

00:09:25.880 No, no, no. I, I just went to Nasdebates now. No, no, I think you put that up. No,

00:09:29.720 I'll tell you what happened. I mean, this is like-

00:09:32.120 What did you say? What did you say to me? You said that I, I, I can't remember what you said

00:09:36.440 a minute ago that I betrayed you. I betrayed you. I want to know how I betrayed you.

00:09:40.040 Well, no, it's just, uh, well, first of all, there's nothing to hide. Like it's,

00:09:48.120 it's completely fine. But, but, but you were like secretly recording 24 seven your time in Dubai.

00:09:55.480 And it's like, what the heck? Like, who does that? It was like, you walked into the studio

00:09:59.320 with like full five cameras, like all recording. It's like, bro, you're not entering a war zone.

00:10:04.600 And it's just like, so people were, people were seeing like my conversations with my team and

00:10:09.480 it's like, nothing to hide. It's fine. If there was some crazy shit, like I'd be canceled by now.

00:10:15.000 But it was like a really funny how like, it's imagine if I now have like five other cameras on me. 0.97

00:10:20.840 And, but it was like, wait, and then you started showcasing my interactions with my ex-girlfriend

00:10:26.440 back then. We're like, yeah, boyfriends and girlfriends, you know, they fight. That was like a six year

00:10:31.080 relationship. So I was like, wow, this is like completely unnecessary, but funny. That's classic,

00:10:36.760 classic rebel.

00:10:37.640 Okay. It's classic. Look, I, I, I hear what you're saying. Although I, I would argue my defense.

00:10:44.360 I don't remember clearly it is a few years ago now, but I, I do think that it was in the context

00:10:49.160 of the putting the whole two out. Cause she came in, in middle and there was a bit of a conversation 0.74

00:10:54.600 and she taught and then, so that was the context of it. But look, when this goes to live,

00:10:59.720 it will be on this page so people can watch it. I think it's, I, I, you know what?

00:11:04.360 It's funny. And it's funnier now in the context of we've come right around because what happened

00:11:10.120 after that, I thought we were okay. Uh, but this is why I think that, why I said that things,

00:11:16.440 uh, like, I guess I was a bit more delusional then because I think after it, I felt like,

00:11:21.240 look, I felt like I won the debate. I feel like the internet told me even on your videos,

00:11:25.320 when you published them that I won the debate. Um, but when I saw you the next year at the World

00:11:32.920 Economic Forum, you were not very happy to see me. I think the first time you engaged with me was

00:11:38.600 when I was, I was trying to, I was trying to talk to the prime minister of, um, of what's it? I think

00:11:45.320 it's a proud of Luxembourg. Luxembourg. They're one of the richest countries. I just did what you

00:11:51.080 did to me. I showed up uninterrupted, uninterrupted, whatever you were doing. And I was just like having

00:11:57.160 fun. So I did the same thing to you. You were definitely having fun, but you didn't do what

00:12:02.600 I do. Cause what I do is I interrupt and engage. You interrupted just to destroy. Can we admit that?

00:12:09.320 Of course, but I don't think you interrupted me to build up. I think you interrupted me also to

00:12:15.960 I didn't say to build, I didn't say to build, to engage. Like I'm come on with all the faults,

00:12:20.440 even back then that you could say with all the faults that you, you, me, you, you, you saw in me,

00:12:28.200 you can't say that I don't engage. I'm willing to engage. No, no, you engage for sure. For sure.

00:12:34.280 And look, I thought it was, what's really funny. First of all, I'm so proud of that moment. And I was so

00:12:38.920 shocked that your audience was like, Oh my God, that's so offensive. How can dare he interrupt

00:12:44.200 other people? But that's not what people were saying. Wait, that's the whole rebel news concept

00:12:50.200 interrupting people. I did what you do to others. So I was so shocked that that was not, it's like,

00:12:56.360 wait a minute, this is what you do to others. So somebody should do it to you. I was so proud of

00:13:00.520 that moment. I thought that was my peak in life. Oy vey, oy vey. I like, I hope it's not your peak in

00:13:05.560 life. And I feel, I feel like I've, I feel like I've witnessed some moments since then that I would

00:13:10.600 say rate a lot higher than, than that moment. And the reason why I don't think it's the same is

00:13:15.720 because you, you, you came in, you're disrupted. And then I go, okay, you know what? He wants to talk.

00:13:20.360 I'll go back to Naz. And I was like, still a bit trying to work out where we were because I couldn't,

00:13:24.440 I didn't realize that there was this whole thing that happened with you, that you didn't really like

00:13:28.760 me anymore. So I came to engage and then you ran back in and you wouldn't talk to me. And then you came back

00:13:33.000 out and you had to go at my, uh, at my boss, you know, your boss. Is he still your boss?

00:13:37.960 He's still my boss. Wow. That's great. Does he hate me?

00:13:42.200 No, he was laughing this morning in the meeting that we're doing this interview. He thought you

00:13:46.200 were unhinged at the time because it was like, what? Because like all the, all the allegations

00:13:51.960 you were throwing at him about my personal life. It's like, number one, it was never a secret. You like,

00:13:56.840 you would have known all that when I came to, they were just irrelevant and obvious, just personal

00:14:03.880 attacks to try. Um, I guess the reason why, why would you, well, why am I guessing? Why would

00:14:10.680 you say that to my boss? Okay. This turned from, this turned from like, Hey, let's,

00:14:15.800 I think we move on in a second. I just want to know. I'm not, it's not actually.

00:14:21.960 I'll tell you why. So I, it says, so here's, so something I do, but something I need to improve

00:14:27.640 on is I usually cannot separate the message from the messenger, which is like, almost like separating

00:14:33.320 the art from the artist. And it's like, okay, if somebody is living their life in a way I don't

00:14:37.240 agree with whatever message they say, I also don't agree with it. And so this is why I'm like, okay,

00:14:41.800 like, okay, this guy is trying to tell me how to live the world. Let me look at this guy's life.

00:14:45.800 Yeah. And also, especially it came after you were attacking me about how I was talking to

00:14:51.480 my ex-girlfriend back then, because it was in the secret recordings. I was like, wow,

00:14:54.920 this guy. I don't think, I don't think I attacked the way you talk to her. Maybe.

00:14:57.640 It was like his girlfriend coaches him on how to say things. I was like, wait, that's just like,

00:15:02.920 so I was like, oh, this person. But I don't think I was attacking like your relationship.

00:15:06.600 Anyways, it doesn't matter. All good. Yeah. But, but something I want to improve on is how to

00:15:11.320 separate the message from the messenger. So it doesn't matter what I think of.

00:15:15.400 The person. The people. It's like, yeah, the person like, let me look at the message. Do I

00:15:19.080 like it? Do I not like it? And so this is why I was very focused. That is hard to do. That's hard

00:15:24.920 to do on a, on a good day. Like I know I struggle with that sometimes, especially now because I look

00:15:29.960 at people where I, not, not, not about necessarily their personal lives. And, and in my one, in that

00:15:37.400 case, I feel like, I feel like it didn't, it was not that you didn't like my lifestyle. It was like,

00:15:43.160 you were picking points that are easy for people to jump on board in hating me because on the face of

00:15:51.160 it, it's very easy. Like, it's very easy. If you, if you, if, if, if you tell me like this guy and

00:15:57.240 you say some of the things that are, I've said about me and you, and you tell me, oh, this guy is

00:16:01.480 this, he's done that. Without any, any, any explanation, like it's really easy to go. I would

00:16:06.200 hate that guy. You know what I mean? Like it's, and, and, and it's, it's character assassination.

00:16:10.040 Like I get it all the time. You're like, I go to pro like, you want to know something?

00:16:13.960 That's part of the business you're in. You want to know something funny is I go, like I,

00:16:18.200 I've been covering protests for years, right? Rocking up to protests, some protests that,

00:16:23.720 you know, I'm sympathetic to the cause. So I'm generally welcomed. And then other protests where

00:16:29.720 I'm obviously not sympathetic to the cause. So whether it's like left-wing stuff or more lately,

00:16:35.560 pro-Palestinian stuff. So I rock up there and you will not believe how many people at these

00:16:43.640 protests in Australia that come to, that they have to go to every protest ready, because I don't go

00:16:49.560 to every protest. I just go to ones that kind of fit what, like suit me, time or whatever.

00:16:55.400 And, and because there's so many, you know, anti-Israel protests, I'm just not going to go.

00:16:59.960 They're just repetitive, right? But I'll go, I'll just rock up. I'll just rock up to one

00:17:05.400 randomly. And then you'll have five guys around me that have like chopping boards in their bag with

00:17:11.400 Avi is a wife basher, because like they're prepared. They're like prepared for it because 0.69

00:17:18.280 they know that this is the one thing, you know, before they had that, that story, that whatever,

00:17:23.160 like my audience knows the truth about it, but, or people that have read my book know the truth

00:17:27.640 about it. But before they had that, you know what they used to call me before they had that,

00:17:31.400 because that's, that was in 2000. I, I pled guilty to that in 2019. So you're talking about.

00:17:37.080 So do you feel like that is the one thing you cannot defend yourself against?

00:17:40.040 No, no, no, I think I can, I can, I can defend myself. That's why my book,

00:17:45.320 like when you read my actual story, I've never in my life hit a woman. I would never hit a woman.

00:17:51.000 That's just not true. I pled to a crime that I didn't commit because it was the only way. So

00:17:56.600 we're going off topic. The reason why is that you would know, but I think it's important.

00:18:01.000 And if you, I don't know, if you know the truth, it's like in Australia, so you can't get custody

00:18:06.520 back of your kids. If you have open domestic violence cases, it's kind of, it's a formula women 1.00

00:18:12.840 use here, not all women, but like a lot of women use that, um, when there's a relationship breakdown 1.00

00:18:17.960 and I'd been in a new relationship. And, um, so the, and the court can't do anything because

00:18:22.840 the court just goes, all right, you've got an open domestic violence case. They can't see any

00:18:27.400 of the details, whether it's a serious one, whether it's whatever they go, while you have

00:18:31.400 that, you can't, you know, we can't give you your, they're not going to give you your kids.

00:18:36.520 Right. Um, and I have to be careful what I say. So I'm not going to say that that was me,

00:18:40.760 but I'm just saying that's the formula that women use. So, um, you have a cat, 1.00

00:18:46.280 you have an option to plead guilty to. And in my case, it was a summary offense. It's the lowest

00:18:51.480 offense there is for throwing a chopping board, not even add her that hit her. Um, 1.00

00:18:58.680 and if I pled guilty to that, then that closes that case and I can get, I can go for my kids.

00:19:04.680 So that's like, I, so when you tell me somebody is a woman basher, to me, I hate that person because, 0.96

00:19:11.240 you know, there's, there's almost nothing worse than a woman basher. And it hurts because like, 1.00

00:19:16.120 it's, it's a very tough thing to have to just cop and cop and cop. Like I've gotten used to it since

00:19:22.440 2019, but before that, you know what they used to say to me, they used to call me a Nazi. And it was

00:19:27.320 funny because I would rock up to protest, just not, I'm not that like, I don't, not religious,

00:19:32.680 but I would wear a kippah just so I caught on camera, them chanting, get the Nazi out of here,

00:19:38.920 while I have a kippah on my head. Like the, the optics of it was funny.

00:19:44.040 And God, that's so interesting. So, well,

00:19:49.400 Hey, I, I look, I, I, it weird me saying this, but I, I believe everybody gets second chances.

00:19:58.040 And if marriages don't work out, you should be able to have a second marriage and a third marriage. 0.57

00:20:01.480 I have a great second marriage. Hopefully it's my last marriage.

00:20:05.960 Yes. And, and I, and I'm sorry, you, you, you had to go through what, 16 years of that,

00:20:11.800 there's nothing you can do to defend. I, I, I kind of relate to this at a much lower extent,

00:20:16.760 like with the Sam Bankman freed thing. It's like, it was impossible to know at the time

00:20:21.960 of making that video, it was impossible to know. So that, but you know,

00:20:25.240 that was a gift that you just gave to me. It's one of those things where like, wait,

00:20:33.240 given the information I have now, there's no other thing I could have done looking back at history.

00:20:37.960 So you're stuck with that label for years to come, but hopefully you can escape that label.

00:20:43.320 And, and, and, and, well, I think with the Sam Bankman Freeman, uh, uh, thing it was,

00:20:48.280 it's, it's, it's when you do your content, it feels like you're fully promoting and endorsing.

00:20:54.200 I build up people. Yeah. That's the thing, dude. I build up.

00:20:56.760 Have you changed that style since all that happened?

00:21:00.520 So I want to get your opinion on this. Okay. Like I'm seriously curious.

00:21:04.520 I 99% of non-stated videos is build up people. It's like, I never go.

00:21:09.640 The only time I just throw, I wanted to put down people was you.

00:21:13.480 It didn't work out.

00:21:14.440 Because it didn't work out. Look what, now I'm building you up.

00:21:17.080 Like, because I, what, I look at what is the point of, Hey, you deserve a second chance.

00:21:26.920 I hope my team is not listening to this. Um, so have you ever seen like that?

00:21:31.640 The point of Nasdaily is to fricking lift people up. So I don't make videos. I'm not rebel news.

00:21:36.920 So I felt like I was attacked for like going and building up somebody who on paper at the time

00:21:43.240 was actually impressive.

00:21:45.960 I know.

00:21:47.560 And that's, and that's, I guess what the criticism, let's put aside the fact that it was like a free

00:21:51.400 kick you gave me because it was right after, I think it was right as it happened, like right

00:21:56.360 after that, the publishing of the debate. And I was like, this dude, this is the guy telling me that

00:22:01.720 I'm dangerous. My words are dangerous because so many millions of people follow what you say

00:22:06.280 and would have invested in that. And so that's why I say, like, I understand, I get you, you,

00:22:11.800 your content has always been about, uh, forget about building people up. It's about positivity.

00:22:16.920 You're always trying to come from a positive, building bridges,

00:22:20.840 but when you're not even a person like a country, I mean, in fact, I saw a video recently of yours.

00:22:25.560 It was like, actually interesting to me. The one of, um, uh, the, uh, um, I know the country.

00:22:33.960 Is it Mauritius?

00:22:34.680 Mauritius.

00:22:35.720 Yeah. Cause I've got heaps of Mauritius friends here and I didn't know, there's a lot of Mauritius

00:22:40.040 people in Australia and they're cool people. And so, um, like, I didn't know that kind of stuff.

00:22:45.080 And so there's not, there's sort of like, when you say you do positive content, that's building

00:22:49.640 it up. Like it works in that situation because like, where could that possibly go wrong?

00:22:55.160 But when you're building up a specific person that has a brand, which is, which,

00:22:58.440 which involves investment, that's the danger, like the Bitcoin or whatever, whatever product

00:23:05.400 where people, when you have the power of so much money, look, I agree that.

00:23:10.040 And that's where I, that's where I think the danger was in doing that ever.

00:23:13.160 This is, this is why I felt, uh, this is very good feedback. This is where I felt very unfairly treated

00:23:18.120 because I specifically went there to not build up his FTX, his, his FTX thing. I only mentioned in one

00:23:24.600 second, I wanted to build up his philanthropy of him giving away all his fortune, right?

00:23:29.080 So 80% of the video is about that. This was unpaid collaboration. I was not sponsored by FTX at all.

00:23:34.760 So I was like, wait a minute, this is the only video about Sam that does not promote FTX. And yet

00:23:41.720 it's the one video people talk about.

00:23:43.160 I know, but like building, I get what you, I get what you're saying. The problem is building up a person

00:23:50.440 who's his entire branding was built around the way he sell that. And so then it built trust in him.

00:23:56.520 And if you trusted him, you were going to invest in that. And that's, that's like,

00:24:01.800 I think it's just a danger. Look, I don't think you're, I think all your content is related.

00:24:07.240 I want your advice. Should we, should we avoid everything finance related? Because like,

00:24:11.000 let's say now you have me on your show. Let's say you build me up for like 10 seconds and let's say

00:24:14.920 one year from now, I murder somebody and I'm in prison, right? Now, how would you have known?

00:24:19.560 Um, it's impossible for you to know right now.

00:24:22.360 I do have my suspicions. Um, no, uh, so, so it's, it's, it's different because no one's going

00:24:27.880 to go in and, and, and so if I walk away from this, let's say, and I say, I actually like Naz,

00:24:32.440 I don't agree with him politically on stuff that like, we're not going to.

00:24:34.600 No, sire for the 50th time.

00:24:37.080 I like Nassaya, especially when he corrects his name. I like Nassaya. And then in a year,

00:24:42.840 you go and kill somebody, right? Or, or, or, you know, it could be worse. You look at Epstein, 0.99

00:24:46.680 right? How many people took photos with Epstein while he was around in the circus? And we don't

00:24:49.960 know the depth in which, who had what involvement, right? Some people I'm sure was super nefarious.

00:24:55.960 And some people was just like, I even know there are people that come up and get photos with me.

00:24:59.320 I don't know. They could be like evil people, but I'm going to be polite and say yes to a photo.

00:25:04.760 So, but, but if I went out and said, I'll, you know, I think Nassaya is actually a good dude.

00:25:09.480 And then it turns out in a year, you actually end up like killing an innocent person in cold

00:25:14.520 blood. So I think one, it creates a situation where my instinct can be questioned. People go,

00:25:23.640 well, Avi, you went out of your way to say that you think he's a good dude. So you wouldn't have

00:25:31.160 known. It's not your fault. You didn't commit the murder, but I might question things you endorse.

00:25:37.880 And it's sort of the same with that, with you and Bankman. But the problem there is like

00:25:45.640 the consequences of it. Like what are the consequences for people who believe that you're

00:25:49.800 all right after this, as opposed to people that probably put money in because your brand was trust?

00:25:57.480 Yeah, that's fair. Again, I go back to the same point, which is the video promotes effective

00:26:04.440 philanthropy. It doesn't say invest in FTX. It doesn't even tag.

00:26:08.040 No, no, but the, but the, but the, but the consequence of it is, is that.

00:26:11.240 That was a cut, but you know, it's almost like it's really, there's no, look, I believe in

00:26:17.800 percentages. I mean, look, I have a fucking percentage right over my thing. I believe in percentages. 0.97

00:26:22.120 So it's like, what percent of the videos I made about people have turned out to be crazy,

00:26:28.040 like Sam Bankman free, like literally it's 2%, maybe 1%.

00:26:31.640 Who's the other one? Oh, there was another one. There was, there was an Asian guy.

00:26:37.080 Yeah. Another one.

00:26:38.040 And the Binance, but, but, but they, I don't honestly, but I don't think he did anything wrong.

00:26:43.480 CZ is, I, I go on the record, say Binance is awesome. And the guys,

00:26:48.280 I don't know enough. I just remember that there was a controversy and everyone was like,

00:26:51.480 every single time. Usually when they say every single time they mean the Jews, but in that case, 0.99

00:26:56.600 it was Messiah, but they were saying Nasdaily. I'm just, I'm quoting them. They were saying Nasdaily.

00:27:03.000 Yes. My, my, my miss rate to be clear for everybody to know is 1%. All right. I made 2000

00:27:10.600 videos about 2000 people, only like four or five were like fraud, 1% miss rate. That's it. Go ahead.

00:27:18.040 Yeah. So, so what you're saying is though, when somebody then judges your content,

00:27:22.520 that the way they should look at it is trust 99% of it. Trust 99% of what I said.

00:27:31.560 And 60% of what you said. Or 42%, depends. Cut, cut out the left wing nonsense. So we got about 49%

00:27:38.360 plus the 1%. Listen, but here we are, we're having this conversation. And I think again, as long as I'm

00:27:46.360 not delusional, like I was, I was like, but I think things are very different now.

00:27:49.000 I'm not going to interrupt you. Don't worry. And if I see you in the street.

00:27:52.120 Yeah. Well, you haven't been back to WEF since then. I don't know what happened.

00:27:57.000 What happened? I got invited.

00:28:01.880 When they invite you firstly, do they invite you as Nassaya or Nasdaily?

00:28:08.440 I think it wasn't even the WEF dude. It was like YouTube.

00:28:12.200 It was, it was YouTube or wasn't it the UAE?

00:28:16.920 Well, once I was with the UAE, but another time I was with YouTube. So it's, it's never

00:28:20.600 been directly like I'm a WEF speaker. So it's always been YouTube and UAE, which, you know,

00:28:26.840 two not bad brands. You love YouTube. YouTube is the reason you have a career.

00:28:30.520 Well, well, I'm, I'm, I'm hoping to get re-monetized. Do you have any friends there? They're,

00:28:34.760 they're, they're, they're currently under review. They said that we're getting monetized. Well,

00:28:39.000 they, they re-monetized Rebel in the, in the last few weeks. And then they said-

00:28:44.200 In the last few weeks. That is, that is all Trump administration stuff. That's crazy.

00:28:48.600 And then they said, so that, so the boss, they said basically on all our channels to put them

00:28:52.920 into review. So as we speak, hopefully by the time this airs, it's, it's re-monetized because it,

00:28:58.280 it does make- Well, hopefully you can make some money off of this.

00:29:00.360 Uh, that's the aim. Um, so, so, so, so since that you never went back because you never got invited,

00:29:09.000 you never got re-invited. Can I take credit?

00:29:11.160 Uh, okay. Just to be clear, I can go if I want to. It's not, I'm not disinvited. I'm still,

00:29:18.120 I still like the WEF. This can be our first thing that we disagree on. Yes, I know. I, I look, I, I just

00:29:24.120 think they're good people. Just like, I think you're a good person. I just think, you know, look, we just,

00:29:28.360 some of us do not know the impact of our action. Then maybe sometimes the left-wing actions were

00:29:32.520 too woke, too crazy, like Greta Thunberg stuff. Um, and sometimes the right can be too crazy. 0.76

00:29:38.840 So like, that's, that's my opinion. Did we get in our debate too, Greta?

00:29:43.400 And I don't want to like re-prosecute all this. People can go watch the nasdebates.com

00:29:47.800 that is owned by Rebel. Did we? I don't know. I don't remember. I vaguely remember, but, um.

00:29:52.920 Because your boss was, uh, harassing Greta and I was harassing him. That is my interaction.

00:29:59.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you, yeah. And you were in defense of her at that time.

00:30:04.520 I was never in love with her actually. No. I don't think I was.

00:30:07.560 I don't think I was. You could see the red flags.

00:30:11.560 I mean, it's just like, I think we humans like, like, makes, like, make something shiny and just,

00:30:19.960 you, like, it's like we use her for our own purposes.

00:30:23.560 Yeah. Well, they idolize her. The left also does that a lot. The right also does that. They idolize

00:30:28.360 certain people and, um. Yeah, the right idolizes me because I'm like, oh, Muslim, Arab, who likes

00:30:33.400 Israel. Oh my God. Let's. Depends where on the right. Depends where on the right. That's 1.00

00:30:39.480 nowadays. And that's where we're going to get to. Let's go. Because this is how, so after all that,

00:30:44.520 and you're welcome for not getting re-invited to the UEFI. You don't know it. I actually saved you.

00:30:49.640 But after that, October. Hey, hey, don't, don't make this the title of this interview. It's not

00:30:55.640 like I'm disinvited. I can still go if I want to. Don't make this Nas Daily disinvited from the

00:30:59.960 WEF. Now Rebel News favorite. Just to be clear. If, if you get, look, yeah, um, we're about, oh,

00:31:06.520 we're almost a year off. We were just there. So in, um, in 11 or in 10, in 11, no, 10 months,

00:31:14.600 in 10 months from now, if I see you in at the WEF, then we know that you were re-invited.

00:31:20.040 But again, I'll take credit because maybe people will think you're normal again. Who knows?

00:31:23.160 Um, but that was, that was, uh, that was 2022. So October, 2023 hit. And I remember,

00:31:31.160 um, in that, in those first few days, uh, the world reacted and reacted in a way that was

00:31:39.160 pleasantly surprising. I don't like all the virtue signaling. I think that was never helpful. And,

00:31:44.680 and, and I think it created more animosity, but you saw the flags going everywhere. And,

00:31:49.400 uh, you know, states were, were, were, were, uh, they do the lights, the, the, the Israeli colors on

00:31:57.720 all different buildings and whatever. That's what I mean. I don't, I'm not really into that because I

00:32:01.400 think that, that it actually, um, well, it never actually does anything besides for Hertz,

00:32:06.520 especially in this case, the Jews, but, um, anyway, if they put up the flags of Israel,

00:32:12.680 of Israel after October seven, in all capital, like all main capital cities around the West and

00:32:18.760 Europe, why do you think it hurts Israel or the Jews? Because it basically it did. You could see 0.97

00:32:24.120 straight after that because it's, it's, it's a virtue signal that everybody says, oh, look how great I am.

00:32:29.240 I care, but it's not actually doing anything. And what it did in the populations is going,

00:32:34.680 the government is supporting this straight away. So after COVID, especially there's been this,

00:32:40.840 there's been this shift in, in populations where people go, if the government's behind that,

00:32:45.800 I'm against it. And then on top of that, you have, you have massive Islamic communities across the 1.00

00:32:51.480 country, across the world, sorry, that turned around and their reaction was, how come there's

00:32:56.840 never been a Palestinian flag, uh, over 76 years of, of occupation. Right. So it immediately got the

00:33:04.520 conversation into a position, which was unhelpful, but, but you know what, I've got to say, as, uh,

00:33:11.400 you know, an Australian Israeli Jew, even seeing it. And even though I, I, um, I consciously, um,

00:33:19.480 recognize the problems with it, it felt nice to see it because it was like a, it was surprising to me

00:33:25.160 that the world reacted how they should to such an atrocity, to such a visual atrocity, one that was,

00:33:33.000 you know, broadcasted to the entire world. So it was weird how you, as, as an Israeli, you've got to go,

00:33:39.800 like, cause if it happened anywhere else, it wouldn't even be a question that that's what the world,

00:33:43.560 you know, when it happened in England or America or, um, in Europe, the, the world, that's how the

00:33:49.480 world reacts. But when it comes to Israel, it's always been this like, well, is there a reason 1.00

00:33:53.960 for this? And in this case there was, and that was when I saw your first post, um, which was in the

00:33:59.960 first few days, I, I recall, I might be off on my date. I think it was in that period, which was,

00:34:05.800 which I'm calling, which I'm calling like the left wing grace period where, where, and, and I said it at

00:34:12.040 the time, because I said, and I went to Israel straight away, I jumped straight on a flight, went to

00:34:15.960 Israel and stayed in Sderot for, in that period when they were still finding terror, like they pulled 0.73

00:34:21.240 guns on me at one point because they thought that, um, like, because you look Arab, that's right, 0.52

00:34:26.840 because you literally look Arab, and your last name. Look, I think it was just that I was in the place

00:34:33.400 that everybody had escaped and I was trying, I was literally driving, I was driving towards, as close

00:34:40.040 as I could get to, to Gaza, and I go on this road in the middle of the night, me, my cameraman, and

00:34:44.920 another guy, and we're driving on this road, and it was a Tesla, because at the time, Elon Musk gave

00:34:49.400 free, uh, power stations, uh, free recharge across Israel. Um, yeah, and I'm a Temani, and in Yemen,

00:34:58.280 when you hear free, you just forget everything else, and we took a Tesla, and then we're driving down

00:35:03.960 this road, and suddenly, like out of no, I'm, I'm starting to get worried that we're going to end

00:35:08.040 up somewhere in Khan Yunus or something, because like, there was no one stopping us, and I'm driving,

00:35:13.240 and I'm talking about like 10th or 10th of October, 11th of October, and I'm driving, and then suddenly

00:35:18.920 out of the dark, like guns blazing, and they're going, they're telling me in Hebrew to turn the

00:35:23.160 lights off, and I'm telling, and I'm screaming out, I don't know how to do it, it's a bloody Tesla! 0.95

00:35:30.760 I go, anyways, I go, if you want to shoot someone, shoot Elon Musk for this, they came over, they 0.99

00:35:35.400 checked everything. I mean, seriously, I mean, terrorists do not drive a Tesla, so that should 0.98

00:35:39.720 be signal number one. Listen, a lot of people would consider a Tesla a bomb, so I don't know.

00:35:46.200 But, so, in that period, you made a post, and heaps of people were sending it to me, you know, heaps of

00:35:52.440 people that, that, I think, probably from the Jewish community, um, that had seen our stuff,

00:36:00.360 and I, and I think you had a mixed, um, like, in the Jewish community before that, before October 7th,

00:36:06.760 there were people that loved you, people that, and I, because there were different instances

00:36:09.720 and videos that came out, and people were saying that he's this, and to be honest, I looked at it,

00:36:15.320 and I said to those, I said to people, I go, um, my bet, because I think in that post, and I'm,

00:36:22.040 I'm paraphrasing what I remember, you said something along the lines of, I've always identified

00:36:27.160 as, uh, Palestinian-Israeli, and, and today, like, now, after this, I identify as Israeli. I,

00:36:35.320 I could, something, yeah, is there something I'm right about the way I'm presenting?

00:36:38.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, more or less.

00:36:40.680 And so, I, I guess one of the things that always annoyed me about you, on a personal level, and,

00:36:47.400 and it, it, it, I don't think many people realize that it came out in the first video interaction

00:36:51.880 that we had, from what I knew of you, is like, do you remember I said to you, Am Yisraeli when you

00:36:56.520 left? Because I looked at it. Yes, I do remember that. And, and I was like shocked you said that.

00:37:00.920 I was like, bro, I'm, I'm one of you. Like, why, why did you say that to me?

00:37:04.680 It's because in, in, in the Jewish community, I think before, October 7, there have been different,

00:37:10.440 like, uh, conflicting things. And then, after all that, like, I, I said to myself,

00:37:14.680 well, this is nice. Nassaya. I said Nassaya to myself, okay, because I didn't want to disrespect.

00:37:19.960 Of course, sure. I said, I said, Nassaya, um, you know, he's gonna play it safe, and he wants to be

00:37:26.920 accepted in the left wing, you know, uh, position of the world. And right now, and so it both, so when you

00:37:33.800 played the, I'm Israeli policy, I'm like, of course, he's gonna sit on the fence. That's 0.54

00:37:37.560 gonna be Nassaya. Um, and then October 7, that post, I said to people, come back to me in a month,

00:37:45.640 when the entire world has turned against Israel, because of the, the retaliation. And then show me

00:37:53.160 Nasdaily's posts. And, uh, I, I guarantee you, I said, I said, I guarantee he's gonna go the other way.

00:38:01.240 And you never did. Yeah. You never did. In fact, I've watched you consistently.

00:38:06.680 I continuously that go to the other way that you thought I would.

00:38:10.040 I, I continue. So, I, I respected that. And over that period, I've, I've gained respect.

00:38:17.400 And, and it's not because I think you're on my side. I actually think, um, the whole conflict

00:38:24.920 of Israel-Palestine is a, for people that actually understand and know what's going on. I'm not

00:38:31.640 talking about your average person at home that's watching the news and getting TikToks and they're

00:38:35.400 being fed snippets and forming their world. But from people that know what is happening there,

00:38:42.680 it's a, it's a litmus test. It tells me where, where your moral compass is.

00:38:46.440 It's an IQ test. Yeah. It shows me where your moral compass is. If you, if, if, if, if you go a

00:38:54.360 specific way in the way that the, the mob has gone and you know, what's real, then I think you're

00:39:01.480 actually a bad person. So I, I grew respect for that. Can you tell us what happened for you then

00:39:08.200 and what that shift was? So look, we had so many differences, you and I in the last few years,

00:39:16.680 but there's one thing that I appreciate about you that I also see myself in, in myself, which is

00:39:23.640 you and I are on an individual pursuit to find our truth at all costs. Even if our truth is unpopular,

00:39:35.240 even if the whole world disagrees with it, but you and I are willing to go to great lengths

00:39:40.440 to stand by our truths. And at the WEF, when we first met, your truth was that the WEF is a globalist

00:39:46.280 agenda and we hate it. And that was your truth. And you went to great lengths to make it clear the

00:39:50.840 truth. And then my truth was very different, but for the first time ever is your truth and my truth

00:39:57.320 are actually what we believe is the truth. And so it doesn't matter if 99% of the world disagrees

00:40:04.200 with me. If I believe this is the truth, then I'm just going to stay. And so when it came to the

00:40:09.560 Israel and Palestine, I was so surprised at how little attention is given to the truth and how much 0.99

00:40:19.080 attention is given to feelings and fucking slogans. And even if it cost me my business, I don't give a 0.99

00:40:25.400 shit because eventually the truth finds itself. And so this is why I said what I said, and this is why 0.97

00:40:29.880 I continue to believe what I believe. The whole October 7th until now, I am just amazed at how

00:40:35.240 little people know and how little people care about the truth. That's it.

00:40:40.200 So from your perspective that after your first post and your continuation of it, was it that you were

00:40:48.280 getting more frustrated by seeing lies spread and the mob grow? Like what, what, what happened to you

00:40:56.360 internally? Because like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't imagine what it would be to be,

00:41:06.600 you know, I guess, racially, a Palestinian Israeli. And then in this time, like I do like, like my

00:41:15.560 officer in the army, he was, he was, as well, like an Arab.

00:41:20.120 Jews. No, he was, he was Christian, Christian, Arab.

00:41:23.560 Oh, Jews, Christian, Bedouin. Yeah. But Muslim, Arab? 0.78

00:41:26.760 Exactly. And, and Muslims like much harder because even Muslims across around the world,

00:41:33.320 they automatically, the default position is anti-Israel. And I, look, I,

00:41:39.240 I don't like that. This is my pet peeve. I don't like that. It's like, whatever you are born,

00:41:43.640 you believe. If I'm born in a, it's very, very extremely tribal. And so like, I think it takes

00:41:49.720 great courage. And you know, I have massive respect for like Jews that are anti-Zionist. 0.96

00:41:54.200 It's like, you know how much courage it takes to say, I'm going to go against the tribe. 0.99

00:41:58.760 You know why I have less respect for that? I'll explain to you why.

00:42:02.440 Yeah. Jews that are anti-Zionist. 0.86

00:42:05.560 Yeah. Well, firstly, you're joining the mob. So, so, so, so for a Muslim to be 1.00

00:42:11.560 anti, so for a Muslim to, to actually delve into it and to go, hold on, okay, I, this is the truth 0.99

00:42:18.680 here. And, and the truth might be even nuanced. In, in, in the Arab world, nuance is like going to get 0.78

00:42:24.520 you killed. Non-existent. Yeah. So, but, so, and, and with, in, in the Arab world, you're talking about 0.97

00:42:32.600 you're part of the, the, the vast majority. And it's not, and like Islamic communities, 1.00

00:42:38.520 unlike, um, Jewish communities are a lot more intense, a lot bigger, and a lot more dangerous 1.00

00:42:45.480 to speak. Yes. Your, the truth. Um, so, so when a Muslim comes out and, and, and takes a stand, 1.00

00:42:53.560 I have a lot more respect for it because he's not joining a mob. He's joining actually the underdog.

00:42:59.000 He's joining the unpopular position, at least on the street, the position that can get you hurt.

00:43:05.560 We're an anti-Zionist. I meet them all the time. They're coming from this radical, insane position, 1.00

00:43:12.040 but it's not even that it's not brave. You're not doing anything. Yeah. There's no consequences,

00:43:16.520 I guess. There's no consequences. You can literally walk through the Jewish community neighborhood

00:43:20.840 still after in, in your, which is crazy impressive. It's crazy impressive that you allow for this

00:43:27.560 debates and disagreeing at such a high level and you don't kill each other. But if you do it the other,

00:43:32.200 but if you do it the other way, if you find, if, if you, if you now, like you now known as making

00:43:38.600 your position, if you walked through some neighborhoods in Melbourne, Australia,

00:43:43.560 Oh God, you will not survive. Like, why do you think I'm not in Australia now?

00:43:47.960 Yeah. Uh, so what's, but it's not, I don't think it's just Australia, but what's your view on what's

00:43:53.480 happening in Australia as somebody that's, that's lived all sides of this conflict?

00:44:01.560 Ah, man. Look, I, um, I, I wish the world knew that it's, you can say,

00:44:11.560 sweet Palestine and I'm with Hamas and all that stuff in Australia, in the UK, in the US as of 0.88

00:44:17.960 recently. And you don't get in trouble. None of that. If you say that in Saudi Arabia, if you say

00:44:22.280 that in like UAE, like you're toast, like people don't understand.

00:44:26.680 There is a guy, there is a guy though. There is a guy in UAE that does

00:44:30.680 got in trouble. No, he, no, he, some guy lifted up the Palestinian flag.

00:44:35.320 Oh yeah, no, I saw that. The thing about these guys, I think it's, it's like one of those gym owners,

00:44:40.440 the one that converted or reverted Andrew Tate. He has a fight gym in UAE.

00:44:47.480 Oh, I can't. Oh, bro. I have a crazy story with that guy. I did a podcast with him just like this.

00:44:54.440 And I did this one before October 7th. And I didn't realize how crazy that guy was. And I,

00:44:58.280 there it was like, literally, this is funny. We had a podcast. We had a one hour debate about Israel.

00:45:03.240 I was like, you know, who the hell are you, Mr. Afghanistan? What do you know about Israel 0.98

00:45:06.680 and Palestine? Get the hell out of here. 1.00

00:45:07.480 He's Afghani. I didn't even know he was Afghani.

00:45:09.240 Yeah. He's Afghani or something. And then it was like, and then we had this one hour podcast and I was

00:45:13.880 literally fighting him in the podcast. And then at the end of it, they were like, maybe we shouldn't

00:45:18.280 release this because we live in Dubai. And it's like, okay, whatever. We're not going to release

00:45:21.720 this. But literally this is before October 7th. I was like defending my truth in front of that guy.

00:45:27.400 That guy knows nothing. I know. I know he knows nothing. But my question is, how does he,

00:45:33.080 is it because he seems to be also close to the, the, the, the Royal fan or parts of the role?

00:45:37.880 No, not close at all. Everybody there, bro, like buys a Bugatti and calls himself close

00:45:44.200 to Royal fan, buys a Rolex and things.

00:45:45.640 So how does he get away? So how does he get away with it? He straight up supports Hamas. 0.90

00:45:50.440 How does he do that?

00:45:51.160 I'll tell you, I think how he gets it because he's not, I think he's because he's not Arab. 1.00

00:45:56.040 He's not a threat. He's doing it in English for the English audience, blah, blah, blah.

00:45:59.720 He's not like saying I, as part of Dubai do this. Like if you're an Arab, it's a little bit 1.00

00:46:06.280 more, more difficult to go out. You, you don't get away with this. That's my, mind you, I don't,

00:46:12.040 mind you, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even arguing that they should whatever. I, I'm just, I'm just

00:46:16.600 asking why. No, I think that there should be free speech. I, one of the things that I really appreciated

00:46:21.560 in Dubai at the couple of times that I've been there is that I genuinely, I think it's one of the

00:46:28.600 places in the world that as a Jew, as proudly a Jew, I've always felt super safe, not only super safe,

00:46:35.240 like, um, respected. I feel like the peace, the Abraham Accords, and that is one thing

00:46:40.760 Trump does, never gets enough credit for. It is real peace. I've been to Jordan. I wouldn't go out

00:46:46.680 there and say I'm a Jew. Um, but, but, but in Dubai, in Dubai, it's like, I really feel when they

00:46:53.480 say aki, like they mean it. You're, you're, they, they, a mutual respect, which is the one thing that's

00:47:00.520 ever given me hope, um, for a future, actual real lasting peace in the Middle East between, 0.96

00:47:07.960 um, Israel and, and, and, uh, Islamic States because, um, it is possible. But yeah, people,

00:47:16.440 people think Arabs is like one type of Arab. It's like, people think Jews are like 16 million,

00:47:21.240 one opinion. Like in reality, there's like a Levantine Arab and there is like a Bedouin Arab and,

00:47:26.440 and, and there's like Christian Arab, right? And like a, like a Bedouin Arab, which is UEE,

00:47:30.680 Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, well, exclude Kuwait and Qatar. There's different topic. Bahrain, UEE,

00:47:37.080 Saudi Arabia, like awesome. They're like very tolerant and amazing. So I think, and they also

00:47:44.280 happen to be the most successful Arabs, the one with the actual skyscraper and the more educated ones.

00:47:49.080 So I, I think the big issue really is my Levantine Arabs, right? The ones in Jordan and Egypt and in 1.00

00:47:57.240 the West Bank, we need an insane re-education campaign, uh, for these to, because we have a, 0.91

00:48:05.400 they have a cold peace with Israel and there's like massive real anti-Semitism because they're

00:48:09.560 so close to it when all these events happen. It's like, oh, the war is right there. Jews are killing us. 0.97

00:48:14.120 So therefore we should kill Jews. Like that is literally what they think. Look, the way I think 1.00

00:48:18.120 of it is this, Avi, is those Arabs think they will be killed by Jews. That's why they hate Jews. And 1.00

00:48:25.560 Jews in Israel think they will be killed by those exact Arabs. So that's why they hate Israel. 1.00

00:48:30.440 When I feel like you're about to kill me, I want to kill you first. 0.99

00:48:33.560 But why, why here, um, and I'm not only talking about Arabs, but why here do the, um, uh, do, do 1.00

00:48:45.640 any Muslim their, their, their, their position, um, why is it immediately?

00:48:52.920 This I don't get. This I don't get. Uh, but that's why, like, I think it is scripture. It does go back

00:48:59.160 to that. Like, like, if you look at, um, Islam, uh, according to, because, because chronologically

00:49:04.440 you had, uh, Judaism, Christianity, and then Islam. And because there are disparaging, um,

00:49:13.160 texts in Islam. So it is so easy for, um, radicals to go, look, it says, oh, look,

00:49:20.520 it says on judgment day, Muhammad's going to call a Muslim. There's a Jew behind me, come and kill him. 1.00

00:49:25.240 So there's actually somebody to point at and go, he's our enemy. And Israel only solidifies it and 1.00

00:49:31.160 makes it gives you that reason. I, I, I, I agree with that. But, but something that I cannot square

00:49:36.200 off is in the same text in the Quran, it literally said, Jews are the sons of Israel, the people of

00:49:41.640 the book. And it says Israel in the Quran. So I know that's, that's a funny thing. That's a funny

00:49:46.120 thing I always ask. It's like, how many, how many times does it say Palestine in the Quran?

00:49:50.760 I don't get it. Zero times. Zero times. So, and it, I think it's 44 times it mentions Israel.

00:49:57.480 But you should see, there's this video about the, the ruling, uh, uh, uh, the ruler of Saudi Arabia

00:50:03.160 saying that we should be open to reinterpretation of the religion. And I think that's what the world

00:50:08.920 needs. And by the way, look at like Indonesia, Indonesia is going to make peace with Israel in 0.73

00:50:12.680 the next three, four, four years, for sure. I definitely recommend.

00:50:15.880 Israelis are going to ruin Bali. I mean, they already have a lot of them with a different 1.00

00:50:20.360 passport like me. I've never seen Israelis in Bali. Thailand.

00:50:29.480 Anybody who has a second passport goes there. I bought a second passport and I went to Bali and

00:50:33.800 I made a video called, is Bali the whitest island in Asia? And that pissed off so many people. You

00:50:41.160 should see it. You would be proud of that. But not Balinese. Balinese wouldn't have cared. It would 1.00

00:50:44.600 have been the, the, like the Indonesian mainlanders, the. No, the Indonesian mainlanders loved it. It's,

00:50:50.520 it's the, the white people in Bali said, how dare you call us white? How dare, this is gentrification.

00:50:54.520 Why are you celebrating gentrification? You know, like classic. Anyway.

00:50:58.680 Let me, let me ask you something. Your family, I think you're from the north. Yeah. North of Israel.

00:51:03.960 Yeah. Yeah. How does your family feel through all of this? Um, uh, so my family

00:51:15.640 is okay. It's okay. Look, I mean, their preference is that I, I, I keep my mouth shut, especially at

00:51:22.760 the beginning of the war. That's like every parent's preference. Just protect yourself, hide, 0.54

00:51:27.560 play it safe. But you know, that's not, that's not your DNA or mine. Um, but for now they're safe.

00:51:33.080 They're very supportive. And also honestly, my parents are like, guys, we only have Israel.

00:51:37.720 Like we have to protect the country that we have, that we live in. We know nothing else.

00:51:42.280 We don't want to be anywhere else. So what the fuck are we doing? 0.98

00:51:45.240 Yeah. Well, I think Arab villages in the north, especially, uh, in the beginning of the war, 0.99

00:51:51.160 when Hezbollah was firing, firing all those rockets, they were the real, they were the targets. 0.99

00:51:55.080 Essentially. They were the ones that are getting hit more than anyone.

00:51:57.560 Yeah. And I never understood why anyone, uh, well, I understand it. I can understand it.

00:52:04.440 That's why I say it's, it would be hard for me, uh, you know, if you have an identity

00:52:10.840 crisis, like if you can't square up your, um, Arab background to obviously, um, and I saw that in 0.99

00:52:18.360 Israel in my time there, you know, you had, you had young Arab men that clearly, proudly would

00:52:27.640 always identify as Palestinian, but would never take the chance to move to the West Bank, would

00:52:32.680 never, would never give up their Israeli powers because life in Israel is better than anywhere

00:52:38.920 else in the Middle East forum.

00:52:40.120 There's two qualities. I really, really don't like ungratefulness and hypocrisy. You must act

00:52:47.960 the way you talk. If you talk and say, I'm only Palestinian, then act like it and live as an only 0.99

00:52:53.640 Palestinian. Don't be using shekels and don't be taking the Israeli passport and traveling around 1.00

00:52:57.640 the world, having fun. Don't try to play in both worlds and try to win in both because those who

00:53:02.040 catch two rabbits, try to catch two rabbits, catch none. Number two is, uh, uh, that's hypocrisy. And, 0.78

00:53:07.880 and, and, and it's just like, I, I, I, I, I'm gratefulness. Like if I, if I, if I'm being very

00:53:13.720 serious about this and I'm being extremely uncomfortably honest, the only reason I am

00:53:19.400 masked daily today is because I lived under an Israeli government. If I lived under a Jordanian 0.99

00:53:26.200 government, opportunities are so much less. I do not want to live under a Jordanian or Palestinian 1.00

00:53:32.040 or fucking Egyptian government. Why is that sensitive to say, yes, the Israeli government 1.00

00:53:37.800 government is terrible and you know how terrible it is, but it is the best we have in the Middle 1.00

00:53:44.520 East. It can always be better, but we can't all be Denmark people. So we'll, I'll take Israel. 1.00

00:53:49.800 Is Denmark, is Denmark the baseline for good? I don't know. I don't know if many people agree with that.

00:53:55.160 Um, yeah. Yeah. So you said, so, so actually growing up, growing up in Israel as a Muslim,

00:54:02.520 um, Arab, when, when, when you hear people talking about apartheid around the world,

00:54:09.160 you know, your uni students talking about apartheid, um, what was there genuinely any,

00:54:15.640 like, was there any difference as a Muslim growing up in an Arab, Israeli village?

00:54:21.880 Using the word genocide or apartheid, I believe is intellectual laziness. It is lazy. So you, 0.84

00:54:28.520 you, you put everything in genocide, even in Syria now we're calling it genocide. I think that's lazy

00:54:33.320 to call things genocide, right? You have, there's something that has to really, there's gravity to the

00:54:38.040 word. So calling it apartheid is like everybody is trying to compare us to South Africa. Do you know my

00:54:42.920 least country, my least favorite country in the world? It is South Africa, because even though 1.00

00:54:47.160 quote unquote, it has, is beyond apartheid, the most apartheid I've seen in my life is in South Africa

00:54:52.360 today. So, um, uh, that's what they say, the pendulum swung the other way. They turned anti-racism laws

00:55:01.080 that ended up being the most racist laws. No, no, I was not, I only got mob, uh, robbed twice in my life

00:55:09.560 out of a hundred countries. And both of them happened in South Africa. Anyway, that's a

00:55:13.240 different conversation. Um, uh, look, I, we're not going to sugarcoat it. Um, I wanted to be an

00:55:19.080 astronaut when I was young. I looked at my race, I looked at my color, I looked at my religion,

00:55:24.120 and I said, Israel will never let me become an astronaut. You only can be Jewish from the army 1.00

00:55:29.880 to do anything successful in life. If you want to be a prime minister, you can never be that in Israel 0.94

00:55:34.600 if you're not Jewish. So the truth matters. There is a ceiling where there's a glass ceiling 0.96

00:55:39.320 or a concrete ceiling. It's funny you say that because, um, Yemenites would say the same thing

00:55:45.160 about prime minister. The same thing. Exactly. Black Ethiopian Jews definitely have a ceiling. 1.00

00:55:51.880 It's insanely low as well. But is it, yeah, look, I'm asking. That's the truth. But the thing is, 0.99

00:55:59.960 also the same truth is that the upper, the, the, the height of the ceiling is the highest in Israel.

00:56:06.920 So you mean in comparison to other Middle Eastern states. Exactly. So you're saying,

00:56:10.360 exactly. So you're, you genuinely don't think a, a, a, uh, an Arab could be an astronaut in Israel?

00:56:19.080 No, because you have to, because the first astronaut in Israel, uh, was a military F-16 commander.

00:56:26.440 Sure. Now, do you think Israel would trust a Muslim Israeli Arab with an F-16 private? 1.00

00:56:30.840 I don't know. I think in the woke world of 2020, uh, 2025, they would love one because they'd be

00:56:35.960 able to parade him around the world. So, but, but look, the way I view this is this. Yes.

00:56:41.400 I can't argue with how you felt. I'm just, I'm, I just question whether there really is a ceiling.

00:56:47.240 Like if, if, if, if, if, are there no, are there no, um, Muslim pilots in Israel? Are there none?

00:56:54.360 No, there isn't. No, there isn't. No. Um, but also there's no, like, there's no Muslim Arab. Um,

00:57:02.280 like, like if you look at the percentage of Arabs in the TV station, it's like, you know, we're 20%

00:57:08.200 of the country, but it's like 1% of the employees in TV stations. Like we have a lot less representation.

00:57:12.920 Now I'm not here to complain. I don't like complainers. I'm here to say we have work to

00:57:17.960 do in Israel, but the beginning is good compared to our region. Now, how can we make it better

00:57:25.240 together? That's all I'm saying. I'm looking at the glass half full. I'm not here to complain.

00:57:28.920 There is systematic problems in, uh, uh, in the Israeli government, but it's amazing opportunity.

00:57:36.760 So also I'll tell you, I'll tell you a big problem, Avi. Do you tell me if it's acceptable or not?

00:57:41.480 I spent 19 years in Israel. Do you know how many Jewish Israeli friends I have

00:57:45.480 from the first 19 years of my life? Zero.

00:57:47.240 Ah, but that's because, like people that don't understand, like you would have lived in a northern 1.00

00:57:52.120 town and surrounded by just Arabs in your Arab village. You probably went to other Arab villages.

00:57:59.000 Like that's, that's a lifestyle. But if you, if you moved into the city, you would have had.

00:58:03.400 Honestly, before I was Nasdaily, it was very difficult to make, uh, Israeli Jewish friends.

00:58:12.360 And, and that pains me to say that. I mean, going through the airport was not fine.

00:58:15.400 That's weird to me because like, when I served in the army there, like I made heaps of Arab friends

00:58:19.640 just walking around. Yeah. There's different Arabs, right? There's Christian Arabs,

00:58:22.840 there's Druze Arabs, there's Bedouin Arabs. Those are integrated Arabs. Muslim Arabs.

00:58:27.240 No, no. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm talking about Muslim Arabs from villages. So like I was in Kfal Sabah,

00:58:31.800 there's all the villages around. Yeah, yeah. And they would come in and work in Kfal Sabah.

00:58:36.520 And like, do you know? Yeah, yeah. Keyword is work, manual work. And it's like, why can't we,

00:58:43.320 we're not... I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of one specifically that I probably shouldn't mention,

00:58:47.800 but she was very beautiful. And, uh, she would do my haircuts and, and like, we hung out a fair bit.

00:58:55.320 Um, and... Did you hang out more than a fair bit?

00:58:58.520 Yeah. Listen, listen, I wouldn't go to her village and hold a hand. Let's just put it that way.

00:59:04.840 Yeah, that makes it smart. No, I got to run in like two minutes because I...

00:59:08.200 Yep. Quickly, before I let you go, and I appreciate it. I think this was a great conversation.

00:59:12.520 Um, it's funny that you say, uh, that you hate people with hypocrisy, which that's where we first

00:59:16.840 met and, and, and like, people will watch this and go, well, that's exactly what Naz had. But I agree with 0.88

00:59:21.400 the sentiment and I actually do agree with what you're saying. Um, but, uh, lastly,

00:59:26.680 what do you think about Syria? What's happening in Syria now? Do you think it's a good thing? 1.00

00:59:30.120 Do you think it's a bad thing? People love to point at Israel saying, oh, this works so well 1.00

00:59:33.160 for Israel. Although I, I'd argue, I don't know if Al Qaeda, Assad wasn't great for Israel, 0.54

00:59:37.880 but at least he was in control and giving minority sums. Like there was no, um, crazy thing,

00:59:42.840 but there was this, uh, Iran had the thing, but Al Qaeda on, on, on Israel's doorstep is not a great

00:59:49.720 thing. Look, if I look at what is the most dangerous thing in the Middle East and the least 0.99

00:59:54.360 dangerous thing in the Middle East, if you ask a Columbia university student, they would say 1.00

00:59:58.200 Zionist movement is the most dangerous thing in the Middle East, which is crazy. For me, 1.00

01:00:01.960 the most dangerous thing in the Middle East is radical Islamic extremism. And unfortunately,

01:00:06.760 Syria is becoming that, uh, anybody that says the name of a God and then kills somebody, 0.99

01:00:14.120 for me is dangerous. Period. So that's what's happening in Syria. Therefore it is dangerous. 1.00

01:00:21.960 And, and I agree with you. And I think that the, the most dangerous thing about Assad was the fact

01:00:27.240 that he was giving radical Shia Muslims a pathway to, to, to Lebanon. Like he was giving them the route, 0.99

01:00:34.520 the road. So it gave access. It was not about Assad himself. I think Assad himself was probably not so

01:00:41.720 bad for the Middle East. He was okay to the Christians, to the Alawites there. He wasn't 1.00

01:00:46.280 friendly with Israel, but who cares? He wasn't going to, he wasn't going to start a war with Israel.

01:00:50.840 The problem with him is he was allowing a sect of radical Islamists come to Israel from the other

01:00:57.240 side. So I actually totally agree with you, mate. Um, I've really enjoyed this conversation.

01:01:02.280 I hope you have as much as I have. No, no, we could do, we could do this for hours and you know,

01:01:06.840 we should, we should, we should do this again, uh, end of this year, next year, whatever. Uh, maybe

01:01:11.560 hopefully I'll see you at the WEF and maybe we can both harass people. If, if, if this episode makes

01:01:15.240 money, we'll do it again. That's. Hey, no comment. Thank you, brother. I hope you get re-monetized.

01:01:23.000 Thank you guys. And to every hater in the comment section where I'm sure there will be F you.

01:01:28.040 Okay. To every hater in the comment section. I agree with Nasiya on that one.

01:01:34.120 Bye, brother. Thank you guys. Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - March 18, 2025

AVI YEMINI ｜ Round two： Nas Daily drops BOMBSHELL at reuinion with Avi Yemini

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