Rebel News Podcast - AVI YEMINI ｜ Sean Plunket： The trans SCANDAL rocking NZ Parliament

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00:01:04.220 Welcome back to the Yamini Report, where we talk to people who are changing the world.

00:01:09.040 And we've been focusing on the Australian elections over the last couple of weeks.

00:01:13.640 And I think today I want to go across the ditch because I think we can take heed.

00:01:20.300 We can, there's a warning, there's a lesson to be learnt here, and part of the project

00:01:24.900 of what we're doing at Rebel News over the next few weeks in finding out this kind of stuff

00:01:30.180 before it's too late.

00:01:33.320 My guest is somebody that many of my viewers, many of you would know him.

00:01:37.520 We've done a few, I've done a few interviews, actually not on my show, on his show.

00:01:41.140 Sean Plunkett, welcome to the Yamini Report.

00:01:44.540 Nice to talk again, Arby.

00:01:46.140 Nice to be with you.

00:01:47.100 And it's exciting to see that you've actually joined me, and I don't have to wake up super

00:01:50.940 early just to...

00:01:52.300 That's right.

00:01:54.160 That's right.

00:01:55.380 So let's get straight into it.

00:01:57.060 Benjamin Doyle.

00:01:59.600 What's the story?

00:02:00.380 For people, the viewers here, most of them wouldn't have a clue about what we're talking

00:02:04.420 about.

00:02:04.660 Rebel's only done one story.

00:02:06.140 So start from the beginning.

00:02:07.740 Benjamin Doyle became an MP in October of last year.

00:02:11.260 The Green Party, which has six MPs, six or seven MPs in Parliament, kept on losing MPs

00:02:18.960 who were doing silly things and having to resign.

00:02:22.940 The last one before him, she was exploiting migrant workers. 0.99

00:02:27.600 So a bit of slavery, which wasn't really down with the Greens.

00:02:31.180 So she tried to hang on.

00:02:33.920 Her name was Darling Tana.

00:02:35.220 She went.

00:02:36.260 And next up on the list was a guy called Benjamin Doyle, who describes himself as a non-binary

00:02:45.040 Maori transsexual. 0.86

00:02:49.600 He's meant to be Maori.

00:02:53.020 Yeah.

00:02:53.660 He's Maori too.

00:02:54.900 He's whatever the hell he wants to be, Arby.

00:02:57.180 But is he Maori like he's not a man?

00:03:01.680 Yeah.

00:03:01.800 He's not a shield.

00:03:02.700 He says he's non-binary.

00:03:04.580 Yeah.

00:03:04.860 I call him him because he's clearly a bloke.

00:03:08.200 He's got to, you know.

00:03:09.340 Look, if somebody, if a man claims not to be a man, then I'm going to question their cultural 0.99

00:03:15.320 claims as well.

00:03:17.860 Anyways, go on.

00:03:19.200 So he becomes an MP in October.

00:03:21.600 But he, believe it or not, prior to that was the early childhood education spokesperson

00:03:26.220 for the Green Party.

00:03:28.160 And I've learned in the last two days that when his name came up, the leader of the Green

00:03:33.200 Party, Chloe Schwabrick, said he has main character syndrome, which is apparently a woke

00:03:40.700 term for being a narcissist, a self-obsessed narcissist.

00:03:44.400 Now, I've heard from two different sources that when they realized they were going to have

00:03:48.700 to put him into parliament because they kept losing MPs, they were a bit worried.

00:03:53.160 They also suggested to him that he scrub some Instagram and social media posts in which his

00:04:00.260 biography included a blue swirl, regarded by the FBI as being a kind of nod and a wink

00:04:07.220 between pedophiles who were wanting to talk online.

00:04:10.660 He also had a persona in this Instagram account. 0.73

00:04:17.920 He called himself Bible Belt Bussy. 0.99

00:04:22.480 I've lived a sheltered life, so I didn't know that bussy means, and excuse, you know, excuses 1.00

00:04:30.500 to your list, a boy's pussy. 1.00

00:04:32.600 Or in other words, the rear aperture of a boy in a sexual context. 1.00

00:04:42.080 So his alter ego online was Bussy. 0.97

00:04:46.220 He posted a picture on this of him with his seven or eight-year-old son on his knee that

00:04:55.400 said Bussy Galore. 0.98

00:04:56.740 The Green Party asked him to scrub that social media before he came an MP.

00:05:04.160 He didn't.

00:05:06.360 But he did take down 52 posts and left the ones that were then published up.

00:05:13.880 A group of people researched him, published these things, and Winston Peters came out and

00:05:20.020 said, what is this guy doing in parliament?

00:05:22.400 Even woke Chris Luxon said that's inappropriate, but the Greens and he have doubled down, and

00:05:32.320 he is staying in parliament.

00:05:34.420 Well, we'll get to that, because, so what I understand, I was kind of looking at the timeline

00:05:38.580 of the story, and that's why I wanted to bring you on, is because I think a few people were

00:05:43.180 writing about it, but it hadn't gained any traction until Winston Peters, who is the deputy

00:05:48.480 PM, was on your show, and condemned it.

00:05:52.740 And I watched that interview, which then kicked off a firestorm, but it didn't actually play

00:06:01.600 out the way that I reckon the average, at least Aussie, or any normal person would think, 0.91

00:06:08.060 whereas the media's reaction to it.

00:06:11.700 Can you tell us about that, or do I have it wrong?

00:06:13.280 Well, mainstream media, A, didn't want to cover the story, okay?

00:06:19.040 I was getting calls from mainstream journalists, oh, you're going to actually interview, you're

00:06:23.620 going to run this with Winston?

00:06:24.940 I said, yeah, I am.

00:06:25.800 It's a legitimate story about an elected MP.

00:06:28.960 So, then they used our interview with Winston, but, oh, they didn't say, this is dodgy, this

00:06:35.220 is questionable.

00:06:37.280 They said, oh, this is just a terrible right-wing conspiracy.

00:06:42.920 It's imported culture wars by bad faith actors. 1.00

00:06:46.700 People don't understand how the gay community makes light of sex with children and pedophilia. 1.00

00:07:00.380 They don't understand that this is all just a bit of banter in the gay community. 0.99

00:07:04.440 Now, the gay community came out, and they said, what a load of BS.

00:07:08.940 The Green Party's just thrown us under the bus.

00:07:11.340 But mainstream media continued to paint him as the victim and have asked no serious questions

00:07:18.320 about his conduct.

00:07:19.640 It is quite remarkable.

00:07:21.100 Well, I watched the press conference the day after your interview went to air, I believe

00:07:26.500 it was, and it's exactly as you described.

00:07:30.200 It was essentially them painting it as, and when I'm saying them, it's the Greens Party with

00:07:36.100 the cover of the mainstream media, painting it as a far-right conspiracy in which the PM

00:07:43.280 should be pulling his deputy in and stop that.

00:07:50.180 That should be who's condemned in this story, not the person who's potentially, I don't know,

00:07:57.840 like, I didn't know much of this stuff.

00:07:59.580 I didn't know what that term meant or what those emojis mean, and that's probably because

00:08:06.500 we're just not involved in that world.

00:08:10.360 Now that it's come to light, how are they taking that position?

00:08:14.600 How is that even possible?

00:08:16.440 And how are New Zealanders responding to that?

00:08:20.800 I think most New Zealanders are outraged, are outraged at what's happened, but we do

00:08:28.500 not have a mechanism to remove him.

00:08:31.320 He has not been charged with a crime.

00:08:33.500 Why not?

00:08:33.960 Why is he not being investigated?

00:08:35.900 Well, because no crime was apparent except for being a bit creepy. 0.87

00:08:40.900 Sorry, not a bit creepy, bloody creepy.

00:08:43.860 So he held a press conference a week later, said, I'm going to be my true self.

00:08:49.000 I probably should have taken down my website.

00:08:52.540 I was a bit naive, but I haven't done anything wrong.

00:08:58.500 And this is just people being prejudiced against people like me.

00:09:02.880 It was also revealed he is transing his child.

00:09:08.100 In my eyes, there's a crime in itself.

00:09:12.100 Well, that's not illegal in New Zealand.

00:09:14.120 It's illegal.

00:09:15.140 It's illegal to try and counsel a child away from being gay. 0.99

00:09:20.420 But if you want to, or your teacher or one of the taxpayer-funded trans radical groups

00:09:26.880 in our education system wants to transition you, they've got, you know, open slather.

00:09:33.600 So it really is a bizarre story, Arby.

00:09:36.740 I can't believe what I'm telling you when I think about the country I live in.

00:09:41.440 Do you think this is going to cost the Greens the fact that they are taking the position

00:09:45.740 that he's a victim?

00:09:47.060 The politics are interesting.

00:09:50.480 Even our not particularly agile, politically agile prime minister has distanced himself

00:09:58.060 from Mr. Doyle.

00:10:00.300 Said it's inappropriate.

00:10:02.320 Winston's still going hammer and tongs.

00:10:04.240 But the problem is the only way Labour can get in at the next election is with the support

00:10:11.500 of the Green Party. 0.83

00:10:13.640 And if the Green Party have a person who is, let's put it nicely, pedophile adjacent running

00:10:20.900 as a candidate, I think a lot of middle New Zealanders who might vote centre-left will

00:10:27.260 say, no way, I'm letting that guy into parliament.

00:10:30.140 So it has major political ramifications.

00:10:34.900 Labour, I know, behind the scenes are saying, why don't you dump him?

00:10:38.700 But the Greens have backed themselves into an ideological woke corner they can't get out of.

00:10:45.360 I think it's interesting because we're living that right now here in Australia.

00:10:49.520 We're obviously in the election.

00:10:50.400 And it looks like the only kind of likely outcome that Labour is to re-win the election is by forming

00:11:02.100 government with the Greens.

00:11:05.060 And we're seeing some interesting characters pop up.

00:11:07.760 In fact, we're starting like a team of researchers just to do, and somewhat inspired by this story,

00:11:14.700 to essentially go and, background, to vet these candidates from the Greens, but also new,

00:11:22.460 there's a couple of dodgy new Labour candidates that we don't know anything about until,

00:11:28.260 you know, how long ago was Doyle elected?

00:11:32.460 He was a candidate 18 months ago.

00:11:35.520 And he shouldn't, I mean, the problem with our Green Party is they're no longer about the

00:11:40.560 environment.

00:11:41.200 We all know that that particular piece of wokeness is falling apart at a rate of knots. 0.98

00:11:46.280 They're all about transing and identity politics and the ideology.

00:11:51.860 So they've completely lost their way.

00:11:54.200 And the people who founded the Green Party here would be spinning, or at least one of them

00:11:58.720 would be spinning in his grave at what the party's turned into.

00:12:02.000 But, Avi, can I ask you, is Dutton's campaign cry, let's get Australia back on track?

00:12:11.400 It's embarrassing to say that I'm pretty sure, but...

00:12:15.140 That is what it is.

00:12:16.800 That was Luxon's...

00:12:19.340 No, it was Luxon's campaign thing.

00:12:22.240 And gosh, you know, he'd stand out.

00:12:24.620 I know, I know.

00:12:26.300 And I was going to get onto that in a second once we finish unpacking this story.

00:12:30.660 So we'll come back to that because I really want to get my head around this and what we

00:12:36.280 can learn from it here in Australia, even from the perspective of somebody who's worried

00:12:40.800 about a Greens Labor government.

00:12:44.660 Because I think that's the most likely case for Labor coming back into power in a few more 0.74

00:12:52.240 weeks.

00:12:52.740 And it's only...

00:12:53.560 And that's going to be worse.

00:12:54.700 That's the worst possible outcome, a Labor minority government with the Greens, because

00:12:59.540 like you say, they're not about the environment anymore.

00:13:01.600 In Australia as well, they're literally about these kinds of issues.

00:13:05.760 But I find it even odd for them.

00:13:09.460 So I watched the Greens.

00:13:12.260 I've done a lot of watching this morning on this.

00:13:13.920 Well, the other thing the Greens do here, of course, here's one of the guys who puts the

00:13:17.280 tea towel on and chants from the river to the sea.

00:13:20.180 I did notice that.

00:13:21.260 The Greens are all over that, mate.

00:13:22.980 Yeah, I did notice that, which again is interesting.

00:13:25.320 You've just come back from Israel.

00:13:26.600 And how do you think Doyle would fare in Gaza?

00:13:33.420 Like he'd last five minutes.

00:13:36.480 You know, honestly.

00:13:38.240 And I think our government, I think Winston actually, might say New Zealand's with Israel. 0.89

00:13:46.860 I get the feeling that there are some in our government who's saying, bugger that, we're

00:13:50.460 not going to sit on the fence anymore.

00:13:52.380 Are they realising that Luxon's just weak on everything, including Israel? 0.87

00:13:57.220 He's kind of taken this position that seems like a Labour-lite position on everything?

00:14:02.260 At the moment, Luxon is having Trump derangement syndrome.

00:14:05.720 Now, if you were smart, you're a country the size of New Zealand, I don't know what's going

00:14:11.760 on in the White House, but I know that Trump doesn't give us stuff what we think, right?

00:14:16.740 Best thing we can do, make ourselves a small target, smile nicely, and answer the phone

00:14:22.400 if he rings.

00:14:23.700 Our Prime Minister since last Thursday has been running around ringing all the Prime Ministers

00:14:28.700 of Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, the European Union, saying, hey, we should form some sort

00:14:35.900 of free trade agreement and fight back against Trump.

00:14:40.120 Well, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:14:41.200 That's just stupid. 0.98

00:14:43.020 To the point where Winston Peters, his foreign minister, said, maybe the Prime Minister 1.00

00:14:47.880 should have called me before he launched this initiative.

00:14:50.780 And the other thing, he was in Hawaii and he said, there's quite a lot of hysterical knee-jerk

00:14:56.900 reaction going on.

00:14:58.400 And that is Winston Peters ticking off Luxon directly.

00:15:02.020 It is the most obvious sign of tension within our coalition government for the past year and

00:15:08.780 a half.

00:15:09.500 Why is Luxon?

00:15:10.980 Why is Luxon?

00:15:11.740 So I understand here in Australia and in Canada as well at the moment, because it's kind of

00:15:17.220 all this tariff situation has fallen out during an election period, which it seems like in

00:15:23.460 Australia and in Canada, it's hurting the Conservatives more than anything.

00:15:30.560 But not that Trump cares.

00:15:32.540 I don't think he's more focused on internal politics in America, as I don't blame him.

00:15:37.220 He should be, but I guess we're all collateral damage.

00:15:43.600 But what I don't understand is why in New Zealand, why would Luxon in New Zealand, who's

00:15:48.000 not currently campaigning for re-election, why is he taking that weird?

00:15:54.920 Because the weird position that I'm finding is both here and in Canada, I'm seeing the

00:16:00.060 Conservatives.

00:16:01.040 So you've got obviously Labour talking tough against Donald Trump.

00:16:04.900 That's their partisan position anyways, no matter whether they're running or not, that's

00:16:09.840 kind of a platform that they would run on.

00:16:12.540 But then what you're seeing is the Conservatives here and in Canada, they're kind of also talking

00:16:20.240 tough and trying to show, like, their position is, we're actually tougher than Labour against

00:16:26.420 Donald Trump.

00:16:26.940 Whereas I would think that they could walk in and go, look, we're Conservative.

00:16:30.760 The problem is Labour has been in power all this time and got us into this situation.

00:16:35.180 If we were in power, we would be able to negotiate a proper deal for our country and represent

00:16:39.680 ourselves as proper Conservatives in which Trump respects.

00:16:44.400 But they're not doing that.

00:16:45.480 Why?

00:16:45.900 And why is Luxon even playing this game?

00:16:48.640 Because Luxon's got nothing else to do.

00:16:50.660 He won't engage on issues around the Treaty of Waitani, sort of racial issues in New Zealand.

00:16:56.060 He doesn't want to get into the transgender issue.

00:16:59.700 He doesn't want to get into the culture wars.

00:17:02.420 So he sells himself as this deal-making businessman.

00:17:06.140 It's almost as if he thinks himself as a tiny little woke Donald Trump.

00:17:11.580 Right?

00:17:12.220 And the problem is he comes, as I imagine is now obvious in Australia, half the problem

00:17:18.740 with DEI and ideology has been driven by the corporate world, by companies with HR departments

00:17:26.720 that are just woke beyond belief.

00:17:30.180 And when he was head of Air New Zealand, his last major job, Chris Luxon applied the same

00:17:36.160 DEI philosophies to Air New Zealand.

00:17:40.100 And I think the truth of it underneath it all, he's as woke and as ideological as the Labour

00:17:46.460 Party is. And people who voted for national and voted for not just economic recovery and a change

00:17:54.100 in economic policy, people who voted for a change in culture are increasingly disappointed

00:18:01.460 at his refusal to invoke that change.

00:18:05.060 And Winston is saying, I'm going to deliver it to you.

00:18:08.560 And so are the ACT Party, the other party on the right.

00:18:11.360 So for people that aren't that familiar, including myself, with the New Zealand current

00:18:17.360 structure, when Winston says that he will, what does that mean?

00:18:24.060 Is he just trying to draw votes for what, though?

00:18:28.180 He can only form the government.

00:18:29.840 And he's literally used this, I'm going to war on woke.

00:18:33.780 Sure, but he's, he's, he's, he's, what's he called?

00:18:39.260 He's, uh, um, New Zealand First?

00:18:42.120 Yeah, New Zealand First.

00:18:43.200 New Zealand First, which is, which essentially makes government with the conservative National

00:18:49.460 Party.

00:18:50.400 So they're on the centre-left, they're a populist party.

00:18:54.000 Okay.

00:18:55.020 Um, and on the right of national, supposedly, is the ACT Party, who are economic rationalists

00:19:00.400 and libertarians, and they form the coalition.

00:19:04.300 I think for the first time in my lifetime, there's a possibility that National isn't the

00:19:09.300 biggest party on the right.

00:19:12.040 That ACT or Winston could supplant them as the biggest party in this three-way coalition.

00:19:19.220 So that would make, that would, that, that would translate.

00:19:22.180 Does that mean that he has a chance of becoming prime minister?

00:19:25.600 Yes.

00:19:26.080 It also means that we may not, we've got 18 months left to run on this government.

00:19:31.940 It may not last the distance.

00:19:34.440 Is that because Winston's, um, Winston, um, if Winston wages war on the part, on, on the

00:19:42.100 prime minister, then he has to call it an election early.

00:19:44.660 And if Winston grabs those votes that he's hoping to grab, then he becomes the major party.

00:19:49.540 He becomes the prime minister.

00:19:50.480 I like that play.

00:19:51.160 Yeah, well, look, it'd be, uh, uh, I'd have to have a few more drinks to, to convince me

00:19:59.400 that it's going to happen, but it is a possibility.

00:20:01.620 And we're seeing these tensions start to spill over.

00:20:06.100 On issues that the average New Zealander actually, as, as hard as the mainstream media is working

00:20:12.900 to, to, to make them fringe issues, but the, the average New Zealander is actually on board.

00:20:19.800 People get it.

00:20:20.460 And, you know, we've just had a, a survey, a major academic survey of trusted media in

00:20:26.840 New Zealand done every year.

00:20:29.400 They hate us because they're academics.

00:20:30.900 So they don't include the platform in the survey, even though our audience is massive, but it found,

00:20:36.840 well, the best they can say is, uh, distrusted mainstream media has leveled out one in three

00:20:44.520 people trust the mainstream media in New Zealand, which is about what it was last year.

00:20:49.960 And how, and how many people work in the public sector in New Zealand?

00:20:55.860 Oh God.

00:20:56.480 I think it's about nine or 10% of our population.

00:21:00.500 Nine or 10%.

00:21:01.340 So you've got to minus them off the one in three.

00:21:04.220 So it still leaves you about 20%.

00:21:06.920 That's just about 20% of the population who don't work in government that, that trust

00:21:10.580 the mainstream media.

00:21:12.080 And we've got a massive battle.

00:21:14.100 And they're proud of it.

00:21:15.920 We've got a massive battle for control of our biggest media company called NZ Me.

00:21:21.020 I was going to get into that.

00:21:23.840 Um, can you tell me, tell me.

00:21:26.480 About that.

00:21:27.300 Just before we go over to that, one thing I did notice in the press conference at the

00:21:30.860 Greens was doing on this Doyle story, which is like a mind blowing story to the, I think

00:21:36.360 to any normal person, if you see, if there's any question, any hint of pedophilia on any

00:21:43.020 level, you would go, okay, I'm going to stand down this person until we do a thorough

00:21:47.060 investigation, whether it's criminal or not.

00:21:49.080 It doesn't, it should not matter.

00:21:51.180 Like I think any, any, uh, a parent, especially any parent in New Zealand will look at that

00:21:58.600 and go, this is a concern.

00:22:02.800 And, you know, clearly we don't understand all the ins and outs and they're trying to

00:22:06.740 explain it away saying that it's just a, the, the, the way the rainbow community talks,

00:22:11.800 but you know, the average person would go to hold on.

00:22:14.680 If this is what the FBI, this is what the law enforcement is saying about what this means.

00:22:18.720 Let's actually get a proper understanding and let's not trust the perpetrators to do an

00:22:23.460 internal investigation and, and, and actually get to the bottom of it.

00:22:27.180 Um, but what I noticed in that press conference is the way that the Greens and then the media

00:22:32.140 ran up on it, that they, they kind of said it was a right wing debt and then they throw

00:22:36.460 in the destiny church, um, element to kind of, to make people, cause you know, obviously

00:22:42.900 I'm apparently part of the lynch mob, the great vast right wing conspiracy.

00:22:47.500 Well, you would have to, but that's, but that's my point is you would have to be really what

00:22:51.920 they're referring to because I think you're the one that elevated the story to the point

00:22:56.020 where it became a national discussion.

00:22:57.440 In fact, an international discussion, but, um, what, what's destiny's, what was destiny

00:23:03.180 church involvement in it?

00:23:04.600 Or was that just the Greens using a boogie man?

00:23:07.020 I actually haven't got into it except Brian saying that he believes that it's wrong, like

00:23:12.000 the vast number of New Zealanders, but they have taken a stand against drag queen 0.99

00:23:17.480 means reading stories to kids in public libraries, which I think most New Zealanders now that,

00:23:23.740 but New Zealanders haven't known what's been going on.

00:23:27.880 They don't know about this ideological push.

00:23:30.480 They don't know that millions of dollars of New Zealand taxpayer funding has gone into funding

00:23:37.080 groups that get into our schools and recruit kids to be trans.

00:23:43.340 Um, maybe more people now as a result of the Benjamin Bussey thing have got an idea that

00:23:52.380 it goes on, but our media has still been,

00:23:55.140 so the, the fact that they're drawing in destiny church as part of the conversation,

00:24:01.100 is that the media just grabbing the boogeyman one that they think.

00:24:04.480 Oh yeah, because, because they figure they can discredit anyone associated with.

00:24:07.840 By bringing in destiny church.

00:24:09.620 Yeah.

00:24:10.320 Yeah.

00:24:10.580 Do you think that it is having the effect they think, or do you think that that in,

00:24:15.620 in fact, is going to potentially have a counter, the opposite effect in people going,

00:24:19.940 hold on, destiny church seems to be on the right side of this conversation lately,

00:24:24.340 that it might actually attract more people to destiny church.

00:24:27.400 Um, I think it's possible.

00:24:30.020 I think Brian's doing okay. 0.98

00:24:31.400 He's not an idiot. 0.98

00:24:32.540 Um, and. 0.71

00:24:33.940 Listen, I personally love the guy, but I'm just, I, I, I, I understand talking to New Zealand.

00:24:38.240 History is judging him far less harshly on these cultural issues than our woke legacy media do.

00:24:46.620 And who's judging him?

00:24:48.000 Who, who did you say?

00:24:49.080 I think history is going to treat him somewhat more kindly than the headlines you read about.

00:24:55.500 And I'll give you an example.

00:24:56.800 I was talking to a friend who was suddenly aware when his people got arrested,

00:25:02.720 protesting a, a drag queen story time in LinkedIn, what's all this about?

00:25:08.900 And I said, his people were protesting guys dressed up as girls reading sexually provocative

00:25:15.120 stories to kids.

00:25:16.540 And this person said, what?

00:25:18.340 How long has that been going on?

00:25:19.580 I said, about three years.

00:25:21.440 How come I haven't read about it in the news?

00:25:23.360 I said, because you don't listen to the right use channels.

00:25:26.660 And this person said, well, that's sick and it shouldn't happen.

00:25:30.560 So maybe some parts of New Zealand are waking up to the, and you've picked it, the absolutely

00:25:38.440 weird stuff that is going on.

00:25:40.660 Well, anecdotally as well, I've noticed that talking to Kiwis I know that weren't particular

00:25:46.620 fans of Destiny.

00:25:48.040 They know that I am, but they never were.

00:25:51.060 In fact, whenever I talked about it and they, they kind of rolled their eyes to the back

00:25:55.260 of their heads, but then in suddenly I've seen, I have seen a shift and I don't know,

00:25:59.720 look, it's not, this is not a scientific thing.

00:26:01.940 This is like, not a broad thing, but I feel like there is a kind of this shift where he's

00:26:07.180 not considered that evil anymore.

00:26:09.200 And it's because of the, the, the, the stories in which his name keeps popping up now is things

00:26:15.720 that they actually go, yeah, that, that is crazy.

00:26:18.820 Yep.

00:26:19.720 I think that's right, Arby.

00:26:21.540 And we probably, since the change of government, don't have the climate of fear of cancellation

00:26:29.660 that was so strictly enforced and encouraged by the previous Labour government.

00:26:35.120 You stepped out of line and you were gone, your business was gone, your career was gone.

00:26:42.240 You know?

00:26:42.800 Now, one, we're going to, we're going to NZME in a second, but I wanted to understand because

00:26:48.380 I saw that the Doyle story, he, so he's actually married to a woman, but it was a, that was a

00:26:59.020 student of it.

00:26:59.980 Student, yep.

00:27:00.640 She's a teacher too, and they're transitioning their kid, but he's in, I am reliably informed,

00:27:08.040 a polyamorous relationship, which is, yeah, and he wanted to actually, last Greens Party

00:27:16.380 conference, he wanted to get polyamory adopted as a Green Party policy.

00:27:20.200 So, supposedly he's got a boyfriend, and he lives with the mother of his child, and they're

00:27:27.600 transitioning their kid.

00:27:29.920 Oh, look, I don't know if you're ready for this.

00:27:32.200 This is actually the bombshell you might not have picked up on.

00:27:36.560 Yeah.

00:27:36.980 It's really distasteful, but I'm going to tell you the truth.

00:27:40.420 So, he used to work for a thing called the Burnett Foundation, which was the AIDS Foundation,

00:27:44.960 and runs all these gay conversion, become trans things in our schools. 0.61

00:27:51.720 They scrubbed out an article that he wrote last year about the joys of eating feces as 0.99

00:28:02.040 part of your sexual relations. 0.80

00:28:03.660 I think it's called SCAT or something. 0.76

00:28:09.940 He wrote a whole article about how wonderful this was, and maybe your parents have done it. 1.00

00:28:16.420 You're making this shit up. 0.99

00:28:18.240 I'm not making that up. 0.99

00:28:21.200 And so, they scrubbed it last week.

00:28:23.640 Well, the Burnett Foundation took it down off their website.

00:28:26.780 It had already been...

00:28:28.420 What is the Burnett Foundation?

00:28:30.420 Is what?

00:28:31.120 Well, the AIDS Foundation, it's funded by the government, and supposedly it's about tolerance

00:28:36.160 and inclusion and getting kids to understand this.

00:28:38.800 And so, as part of that, they had him write an article about...

00:28:41.180 And eating each other's feces, Arby.

00:28:44.180 There are a number of outfits in the... 0.99

00:28:46.460 So, like, this is clearly somebody with mental health issues.

00:28:50.220 The fact that... 1.00

00:28:51.880 You intolerant, you intolerant, misogynist. 0.99

00:28:56.400 So, how... 0.99

00:28:58.400 When you say his wife was his student.

00:29:02.480 Well, she's not now.

00:29:03.520 She's a teacher now.

00:29:04.960 She was a student in...

00:29:07.140 So, like, was it a high school?

00:29:08.240 My husband, she was a student of his.

00:29:10.120 He was let go from a couple of his teaching roles, we understand, because of inappropriate friendliness with students.

00:29:16.880 And so, this is in a high school?

00:29:20.520 Yeah.

00:29:25.340 How many alarm...

00:29:26.480 How many red flags does somebody need?

00:29:28.260 I don't know.

00:29:30.060 I'm just a journalist.

00:29:31.140 So, he married her later, that had a kid, and then somehow this kid is suddenly born in the wrong body.

00:29:38.980 Why do you think that always happens?

00:29:40.320 What are the chances, Arby, that there'd be one of the nine million kids who actually is gender dysphoric?

00:29:49.820 Yeah.

00:29:50.080 So, what...

00:29:50.840 Because I find that interesting as well.

00:29:52.840 In Australia, we had the Animal Justice Party leader, I think he was.

00:29:58.540 A really nice guy.

00:29:59.600 He spent his parliamentary privilege one day to stand up and basically just keep calling me a Nazi.

00:30:07.920 But he wouldn't come outside and do it.

00:30:09.560 But this guy happened to have...

00:30:11.640 He had a son and daughter, and he still has a son and daughter, but they've switched over.

00:30:17.820 Like, he had two trans kids.

00:30:20.600 How is this possible?

00:30:21.680 Why does it keep happening?

00:30:23.460 Why does it always seem to keep happening to the ideological people?

00:30:28.100 And they're ideological before they have kids.

00:30:30.080 So, it's not like they've turned ideological.

00:30:32.340 This kid's just lucky.

00:30:33.700 Right.

00:30:34.380 It's gone.

00:30:35.340 It's divine providence.

00:30:36.940 So, they've got such tolerant, virtue-signalling parents.

00:30:41.980 It's bloody madness, and it should be criminal.

00:30:44.900 Sorry, I just...

00:30:45.500 Are you a Christian?

00:30:47.880 No.

00:30:48.460 No.

00:30:48.920 I don't have any faith, Arby.

00:30:50.980 No, no.

00:30:51.440 I thought...

00:30:52.020 I was going to say, you know, because if you're a believer, then it would have been, well, God...

00:30:57.500 Jewish people would call me a righteous man. 0.98

00:31:00.200 Just righteous.

00:31:01.880 Just righteous.

00:31:03.020 Well, you just came back from Israel, and I did want to hear about that.

00:31:06.540 Maybe we'll get to that after the NZME.

00:31:08.840 I think we've understood the Doyle situation.

00:31:13.240 It is kind of unbelievable.

00:31:15.580 Would you agree with me?

00:31:17.040 It's insane.

00:31:17.980 So, is this the end of it?

00:31:19.200 Is this just going to die now, this story?

00:31:21.320 Or is somebody going to push this?

00:31:21.960 I'm going to keep writing stories about it, and I'm sure independent research is another big order.

00:31:25.620 Has anyone reported it to police?

00:31:28.680 No.

00:31:29.200 Because what are you charging with, being inappropriate online?

00:31:32.540 Well, is there no laws?

00:31:35.580 If law enforcement in America is saying this is pedophilic...

00:31:42.800 Signalling.

00:31:43.720 Signalling.

00:31:44.820 Surely, that's grounds to open an investigation, which means, fine, they don't have anything to charge him with yet, but they can seize his electronics, and we know he's deleting stuff.

00:31:54.320 Surely, if he really is potentially going down that path, there's going to be something incriminating on his computers.

00:32:00.780 Don't they have grounds?

00:32:01.540 Yeah, well, that would require us to have a police force that hasn't been woke-ified by the last Labor government, wouldn't it?

00:32:06.820 What if it turns out, then, that they let this go, and then it comes out one day that, you know, they've let it, which is quite possible?

00:32:17.380 Well, I guess my conscience would be clear.

00:32:21.140 I'm not sure if other people's would be.

00:32:22.800 That is wild.

00:32:25.940 All right.

00:32:26.620 I guess it's almost better for him to stay in the Greens Party for New Zealand's politics, because it'll make...

00:32:32.360 I can see that...

00:32:33.940 Oh, yeah.

00:32:34.740 Yeah, it increases the right's chance of victory.

00:32:37.620 Exactly.

00:32:38.200 Winston, all Winston has to do...

00:32:39.900 Why don't you ask the Australian Green Party what their relationship is with the New Zealand Green Party?

00:32:44.740 That is a good point.

00:32:45.720 We might actually try that.

00:32:46.740 We might actually try that, but I think for New Zealand, for Winston, it's probably perfect, because he could run ads in the next election just solely on this guy.

00:32:57.620 A bit like what Trump did with his most popular ad in the election was, she's for they, them, I'm for you.

00:33:05.960 Did you see that ad?

00:33:06.700 That was his most popular ad.

00:33:09.000 Okay, NZME.

00:33:10.920 What's his story?

00:33:11.820 What's happening there?

00:33:12.640 Okay, so NZME, for those who don't know, largest privately held media company in New Zealand.

00:33:19.380 The newspaper of record, The Herald comes out of NZME, and the biggest talkback and radio network, they own about half the radio stations in the country, including Newstalk ZB, which is a centre-rightish talkback show, biggest audience in the country, and makes all the money for NZME.

00:33:37.120 But the print side and the digital side of that business is full of some of the most woke virtue-signalling journalists in the country, who are in line with all the other.

00:33:47.280 What's the print side?

00:33:48.020 What publication is the print side?

00:33:50.140 The Herald, the New Zealand.

00:33:51.480 Oh, okay.

00:33:53.200 Oh, yeah, that's the big, you know the one.

00:33:54.760 They're fans of mine.

00:33:56.240 And they're the guys who came after you and called you and asked you, and in fact intervened to get you banned from the country.

00:34:02.220 Exactly, and you know, the last time I was there, again, so that time when they got, when they intervened to get me banned, they didn't put, they didn't put any byline.

00:34:12.080 And then I came back, when I came back to film the documentary with Destiny, which is yet to come, that's, I think we're a few weeks off.

00:34:19.260 David Fisher?

00:34:19.780 No, so it wasn't David Fisher, so again, it was some girl from the New Zealand Herald, I got her name anyways, but my point was, so they didn't call me to ask me any questions.

00:34:32.380 They went to Destiny to get comment about me, and then they wrote this, you know, another hit piece on me.

00:34:38.660 And it was, again, without a byline, but I knew, because the Destiny guys gave me the name and number of the person, and I kept calling them, because I wanted to get on camera.

00:34:52.780 I was going to just, I had the best lineup of questioning, just like, how do you land here, and do you, I hear you, I hear you're looking to talk to me, here I am.

00:35:01.520 Do you want me to answer some of the questions in your story?

00:35:04.420 But they ran it again without a byline, anyways, it's not about me.

00:35:09.160 Your mate David Fisher, by the way, is transing his kid as well.

00:35:13.240 Oh, how shocking.

00:35:15.440 Is Fisher a Jew? 0.74

00:35:17.380 I don't know.

00:35:18.660 No.

00:35:19.880 I don't know why, I don't know why I'm just trying to feed the anti-Semites here. 0.88

00:35:24.740 Okay.

00:35:26.040 So NZ meat, biggest, you know, the 64,000 pound gorilla in the New Zealand media scene,

00:35:33.100 and a bunch of shareholders, I don't know if they got together, but a guy bought in, he spent $20 million buying into the company,

00:35:42.260 and I think he got about 12% or something, 9% to 12%, a guy called Jim Grennan.

00:35:47.820 And Jim is a Canadian, expat Canadian billionaire.

00:35:51.680 You may have come across Jim.

00:35:53.040 And Jim says, I reckon the Herald's a bit stuffed and it's a bit woke.

00:35:58.460 And what's also happened, and I did another story on today, the Herald has been picking and choosing who can advertise, given their political bent.

00:36:09.020 Which is crazy if they're not making any money.

00:36:11.140 Well, unions can pay $20,000 for a front page wraparound of the paper, but a group called Hobson's Pledge, which raises questions about the predominance of Māori rights in New Zealand,

00:36:25.740 they're not allowed to advertise.

00:36:27.860 Family First, which is a conservative group, they're not allowed to advertise.

00:36:33.420 They turned down advertising from the New Zealand Jewish Council, calling for tolerance after October the 7th, when they had run advertising from pro-Palestinian protesters, calling for boycotts on Israeli goods.

00:36:51.800 No.

00:36:53.680 So what has happened is about 37% of the shareholders, Jim Grennan said, I want the whole board of this company fired. 1.00

00:37:03.560 Because they're woke idiots. 1.00

00:37:04.960 The chairman of the board, by the way, is the patron of the Rainbow Tick movement in New Zealand. 1.00

00:37:09.940 So she is totally into the Benjamin Doyle stuff.

00:37:15.560 And he got the, there's a, Sephero group in Australia owned 16%.

00:37:20.600 They're, I think, the biggest single shareholder.

00:37:22.780 A couple of other New Zealanders.

00:37:25.280 And they've said, we're going to go to the AGM and we're going to vote to fire the entire board.

00:37:29.520 And then we're going to get this outfit back on track and stop it being so woke.

00:37:36.120 Well, the board, who were appointed by the shareholders, they said, oh, no.

00:37:42.460 Oh, no, you can't do that.

00:37:45.140 We're going to fight being fired by the people who own the company we work for.

00:37:49.300 And this would destroy democracy in New Zealand.

00:37:53.560 And we must be allowed to run our media company the way we think it should be run, not our shareholders.

00:38:02.060 Unions have gone on side with them and there is now a death match going on.

00:38:06.220 And the board are trying to get New Zealand business regulators to declare the move illegal.

00:38:12.300 I think they'll fail.

00:38:14.840 And an absolute war of words for control of our biggest media empire because it is so culturally influential.

00:38:24.240 I think it's a huge story.

00:38:25.660 I don't know how much you know about Jim, but I don't think he's going to give in on this.

00:38:34.060 And he's a, he's, I think he's a lawyer as well.

00:38:37.400 Or is it?

00:38:38.120 Yeah.

00:38:38.760 But he's been besmirched and besmeared.

00:38:41.160 All the other legacy media and TV and did say, oh, Jim Grennan, he's dodgy.

00:38:46.500 He once got accused of this.

00:38:48.120 And the very idea for these people that a billionaire should be allowed to exercise control over a business.

00:38:55.760 Presumably that's why Jim is a billionaire because he's quite good at business.

00:39:00.100 Yeah.

00:39:00.860 But they're saying, oh, no, you can't touch the woke news media.

00:39:06.220 It's a really important story.

00:39:09.680 Yeah.

00:39:09.860 Well, and I think it has implications around the world.

00:39:12.120 I think that if he succeeds, and maybe he's been inspired by what we already see, things like Twitter and some of the other publications, even in the wake of Trump's, who was it?

00:39:32.660 Was it the Washington, who refused to run a, because usually in every election they ran a, an editorial.

00:39:43.020 A Washington Post.

00:39:43.820 Was it Washington Post that refused to run at this time and it caused a shitstorm because basically he was hedging his bet.

00:39:49.060 He knew, he knew which way it was going to go and he didn't want to be, land on the bad side there.

00:39:53.080 But I, I, I, I dare say he's, he's probably being inspired by that.

00:39:57.700 So that, and, and that could, um, because I, I had no idea that he owned that much of it.

00:40:03.620 So he, you're saying though, he, so he owns.

00:40:05.920 He bought in for 20 mil.

00:40:07.300 He spent 20 mil.

00:40:08.660 And, and, and that was, that got him 9%.

00:40:11.060 Is that right?

00:40:12.000 9% and he puts it together with a bunch of other people.

00:40:14.880 And the accusation is that he has conspired with other people to make decisions that would be bad for the company and not in the interest of other.

00:40:25.060 Did he recently buy in or was this, he's had it for a while?

00:40:28.360 Recently, recently.

00:40:29.880 Yeah.

00:40:30.900 Yeah.

00:40:31.400 So, um, and at the moment they're all gagged from talking to each other about the deal or talking to their own staff about the deal.

00:40:41.480 Uh, for the first time in 30 years, our takeovers panel has invoked these ridiculous powers they have to say any conversation you have about this might be germane to our inquiry.

00:40:55.120 So what, so what, what are we waiting for now at this point?

00:40:58.180 We're waiting for a hearing, a secret hearing of the takeovers panel to decide whether or not this breaches company law in New Zealand.

00:41:05.520 Yeah.

00:41:05.960 And the board have delayed for two months, the AGM, where the vote to get rid of them would take place.

00:41:15.260 Yeah.

00:41:15.780 And they wouldn't have done that.

00:41:17.060 They're saying that they're waiting, they're saying they're waiting for the outcome of the investigation.

00:41:21.640 Yeah.

00:41:22.040 But they are now trying to chip away.

00:41:24.740 So they would win a vote at the AGM, a vote on getting rid of them.

00:41:30.240 Yeah.

00:41:30.720 I think they're whistling Dixie.

00:41:32.140 I think it's all over for them and they should, you know, wake up and smell the coffee.

00:41:35.840 Does that mean that if he succeeds, that means the Herald might actually come back to, because weren't they supposed to be like a centre-right publication?

00:41:45.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:45.880 But the insidious nature, you would have seen it in Australia, and it's worse in New Zealand, because we're a smaller market and we don't have Murdoch and we don't have you guys.

00:41:55.880 The insidious kind of colonisation of our mainstream news media by editors and journalists who are completely politically biased, and particularly young people who've been through the edge, you know, people under 30, who just have no idea of what journalism is.

00:42:18.460 They are there to fight the good fight for whatever cause they believe in, and our reality simply does not exist.

00:42:25.880 The problem here starts at the university, like, I know a bunch of people that have gone through the journalism degrees, and they, you know, they would reach out to me while they're doing it.

00:42:40.560 They're, you know, asking me for advice on, basically, they're making us write this thing, but I know if I write it the way I want to write it, I am passing.

00:42:50.080 So do I just play woke?

00:42:52.780 No, you leave and you get a job, you go and get on the road, that's what you do.

00:42:58.600 You have to play woke to be able to pass any of those degrees, and so the universities are just pumping out these new woke journals.

00:43:06.300 The publications are taking on the young ones because they can't afford the old school journals.

00:43:12.520 Like, for them, it's a business, they don't even care.

00:43:13.840 Like, that's the thing that makes me laugh when the left here go on about Murdoch's control.

00:43:18.720 It's like, do you actually understand how the newspaper operates?

00:43:23.000 Murdoch has very little say on what ends up in the Herald Sun.

00:43:28.100 What you're actually seeing in most of the newspapers, all the Murdoch, almost all the Murdoch ones, not all the Murdoch, I think the Australians got a bit more of a ideological strength in not hiring just outrageous number of wokeies. 0.94

00:43:45.960 But most state newspapers across the country, they're hiring just the newest journalists that are on the lowest rate, they're all woke, they're kicking out.

00:43:58.220 So the only people that have any sort of conservative or share worldview with Murdoch are some of the opinion writers like Andrew Bolt and these kinds of personalities, which are halfway out.

00:44:11.200 And so they're getting replaced by either AI or these woke journalists, which both of them, like even the AI that you're seeing, is all woke.

00:44:21.620 So it's scary.

00:44:27.000 But New Zealand was a bit of a shock.

00:44:28.860 Like, when I had my personal experience with that, I just couldn't believe how unaccountable they were.

00:44:39.780 Like, they were a rule, a law to themselves, they controlled government.

00:44:45.240 And it's easy in New Zealand, we're so small, you just need to get a few key people to bend the knee to you, and you've got control of the place.

00:44:55.020 Now, quickly, before I let you go, I know maybe New Zealand's forgotten about her, but the rest of the world hasn't.

00:45:02.100 Jacinta Ardern, she seems to be cracking on, copping gig after gig. 0.63

00:45:11.400 Notice she's not coming to New Zealand, this part of the book, too.

00:45:14.940 Funny that.

00:45:16.300 Why?

00:45:17.640 Well, I imagine because they couldn't guarantee her security if she did.

00:45:23.040 Is it really that bad?

00:45:24.440 Are people still that angry about Jacinta Ardern?

00:45:27.100 Jacinta Ardern, yep. 1.00

00:45:28.780 For what?

00:45:29.380 For what?

00:45:30.000 For what?

00:45:30.460 What are the things that people are angry about?

00:45:32.660 Look, I don't think all of it's fair.

00:45:35.160 And I don't think any politician or anyone should threaten violence against anyone else.

00:45:40.180 But a lot of the problems we're experiencing now, the problems we've just been discussing,

00:45:46.400 Avi, have been because she launched an ideological and a woke revolution in this country that she 0.82

00:45:52.480 never told people about.

00:45:54.580 She played favourites, she sandbagged the news media, she paid off the news media with tens 0.90

00:46:00.980 of millions of dollars.

00:46:02.680 And I think as a country and a culture, we are going to spend quite some time, if we ever

00:46:07.620 can, repairing that damage to our nation.

00:46:11.440 And I think people blame you for it.

00:46:13.820 And I would say in many ways, quite rightly.

00:46:17.780 Why do you think the rest of the world loves her so much?

00:46:19.900 When I talk about the rest of the world loving her, I'm talking about the woke left.

00:46:24.960 Oh, because the WF loves her and the UN loves her.

00:46:28.800 Why?

00:46:29.120 Because she's kind of super woke.

00:46:32.320 She was the, she was one of the, here Macron and the guys left Blackface. 0.61

00:46:37.740 What's his name?

00:46:38.240 Trudeau.

00:46:38.900 They were like the three, they were like the three cool kids, weren't they?

00:46:44.060 Of wokeness around the globe.

00:46:46.500 I actually do look at her as very much, and Trudeau, they like brother and sister.

00:46:51.460 Yeah, yeah, and they were the, they were the cool kids for a long time, all around the

00:46:57.560 world.

00:46:58.200 And he's probably just as hated in Canada now.

00:47:02.620 Yeah.

00:47:03.400 In fact, he was so toxic, it was so clear he was going to lose, and they swapped him with

00:47:09.040 Carney, who, by the way, I have met, I think he's way more dangerous.

00:47:14.220 Um, I think he's, he's worse than Trudeau for the fact that he is so charismatic.

00:47:21.080 Like, I met him a few times, and he, he could play, he could play the person so well.

00:47:25.980 He could talk to anyone.

00:47:28.700 He was, he, he was actually like, I met him three or four years in a row, and it was like

00:47:35.280 in those few minutes, like at first it was him running away, and him.

00:47:38.740 Well, guess who Luxon's been talking to on the phone in the last two days?

00:47:42.460 Carney.

00:47:43.300 Carney.

00:47:43.660 Oh, maybe we can form some wonderful new trade block, and I mean, that is, that is

00:47:51.940 a dangerous thought for, for New Zealand, if you get into bed with Carney, and, and

00:47:56.320 just, yeah, look, I don't understand what's happened to New Zealand.

00:47:59.160 I see from, you know, from this distance, the whole pro-Palestinian movement has really

00:48:04.920 taken off there.

00:48:06.060 I don't get why.

00:48:07.440 I sort of do.

00:48:08.820 I guess there's the whole, um, the Palestinian movement has, you know,

00:48:13.640 kind of co-opted the Maldi thing, it feels like, and so they've, um, so, and New Zealand,

00:48:19.620 that's not.

00:48:20.120 It's the same with Columbia University.

00:48:21.720 It's the same around the world.

00:48:23.580 It's a dream.

00:48:28.420 It's almost cool to be anti-Semitic, to be a, and I don't use that word anymore. 0.97

00:48:33.060 It's almost cool to hate Jews again. 1.00

00:48:35.700 Isn't that weird? 0.94

00:48:36.540 But you're seeing that around the world, right?

00:48:39.160 However, let's say here in Australia, at least in the Liberal Party, at least Dutton is, takes

00:48:46.960 a strong position on all of that to counter it.

00:48:50.760 I don't see that in New Zealand.

00:48:52.240 I don't see anyone doing that in New Zealand.

00:48:55.200 So I feel like in New Zealand, it's like, it's not even, it's, it's not even cool or accepted.

00:49:00.120 It's like standard.

00:49:01.340 The question is, how far, how much do you hate Israel?

00:49:04.520 And that kind of becomes the competition.

00:49:06.540 You know, the Greens will go full pro Hamas, but it's, it's, it's not cool to stand up or

00:49:13.540 defend.

00:49:14.080 It's, it's not even accepted to do that.

00:49:16.100 It seems in, in New Zealand.

00:49:17.280 And I just don't get why.

00:49:18.320 I think you might find that Winston could take a stand on this.

00:49:23.160 I think to me, the whole, the, the, the, the, the war on woke, that should be a part of 0.97

00:49:30.880 it.

00:49:31.600 That is absolutely a part of the situation.

00:49:34.000 Because if you look at everyone who's woke, everyone who argues all those same points,

00:49:39.480 they all make, they all make the same argument about Israel.

00:49:41.900 So if you don't see the correlation there, it's just, it's, and it's worse.

00:49:49.940 It's almost worse than all that because not, not the actual issue.

00:49:54.000 I think it's worse than it because it's so dangerous in the fact that you see the far

00:49:57.900 left.

00:49:58.300 So the woke left that, that, that believe in all these crazy ideas, they found an alliance

00:50:04.720 with the far right.

00:50:06.980 And they're in, and so it's, it's weird how they kind of excuse each other over this

00:50:12.920 one issue.

00:50:13.980 They look over and they, and you see that in Australia, you see that in America, you

00:50:16.640 see that, but then you have, at least in Australia, I feel like you have strong voices like Dutton,

00:50:21.860 whether you like anything else about him, at least on this issue, he's unwavering.

00:50:26.700 Trump, you see these people that have, that, you know, the mugger around the world, but 0.76

00:50:31.540 even in America, the crazy anti-Jew mugger, the fringe of the mugger that are like condemning 0.78

00:50:38.500 Trump now for being, um, to be honest, consistent. 0.93

00:50:42.920 And if you, if you watch Trump the whole time.

00:50:44.840 Standing for democracy and freedom.

00:50:46.620 Standing for democracy, freedom, unapologetically against the Jew haters.

00:50:50.440 Of the Islamic brotherhood, which seeks to wipe a whole race of people, not just out 1.00

00:50:55.080 of the Middle East, but off the face of the bloody earth. 0.98

00:50:57.300 And I'm sorry, there's no, you can't argue with that.

00:51:01.400 Douglas Murray was brilliant on Joe Rogan the other day.

00:51:04.040 Douglas Murray is always brilliant.

00:51:05.300 Although, like, I do love Douglas and I know him, I know him personally, but, uh, the,

00:51:10.400 the, like, I, I love him and he's just the, I wish I could talk as eloquently or half as

00:51:17.200 eloquently as him on any issue.

00:51:19.240 He makes everything seem so clever.

00:51:21.360 The only thing I wish on that, on that, um, podcast is that he didn't, they didn't focus 0.96

00:51:28.100 so much on the credentials and that shit, because that's what just like, if you look 0.52

00:51:32.620 at the internet after, so all the Dave Smith, um, you know, cult following, they, you never 0.97

00:51:41.020 seen, they didn't post any clips of his actual substantial arguments on Israel.

00:51:47.480 And if they did, they just cut one bit of Dave Smith having a rant, but they didn't,

00:51:50.940 they didn't put, um, Douglas Murray's responses.

00:51:54.020 They focused very much on the parts of Douglas Murray telling him, you know, you don't have

00:52:01.160 it.

00:52:01.500 Well, I'll put it this way.

00:52:02.240 Dave Smith spent an awful lot of time online since that trying to say, I won.

00:52:07.000 He won.

00:52:07.620 Douglas Murray hasn't had to worry about.

00:52:09.520 Douglas, no, but, but, but I, but I think that Douglas Murray speaks to a higher IQ of person.

00:52:14.680 And so if you can watch the nuance of the whole conversation, you go, okay, it's clear

00:52:19.400 that Douglas Murray, um, just made the argument about the issue much stronger.

00:52:25.640 Whereas Dave Smith relies on, oh, you can't tell me not to, and then pretends.

00:52:29.980 And I feel like that because I feel like that.

00:52:32.800 Well, you know, yeah, yeah.

00:52:35.620 So walking away from this conversation, three things, um, what are your, with, with this

00:52:41.540 Doyle situation, what do you think is going to happen here?

00:52:44.080 Do you think this is the end of it and the Greens are going to run?

00:52:46.540 I can't see the Greens having him as a candidate in the next election, just how they get rid

00:52:51.140 of him.

00:52:51.600 So you think they're going to backtrack out?

00:52:53.060 They're going to walk?

00:52:53.660 I think they have to, or it is guaranteed win for, for the centre-right of New Zealand

00:52:59.780 politics in the next election.

00:53:01.500 Well, they, I noticed they weren't really there at his press conference.

00:53:05.220 No, the people behind him was a academic researcher who believes in rebranding pedophilia as minor

00:53:13.520 attraction.

00:53:14.680 And the woman with the blue hair runs inside out, which is just had its funding cut because

00:53:20.320 they go into schools and tell kids they're trans.

00:53:22.380 So, so is that, am I reading too much into the fact that the Greens weren't there for his...

00:53:28.840 Well, no, the Green Party organised the press conference.

00:53:31.940 So he was officially sanctioned.

00:53:34.160 But the fact that neither, neither of the two co-leaders of the Greens were there, I think

00:53:40.580 is an indication that they probably asked him to resign or go.

00:53:44.900 And he didn't, but because they had this weird, hippy-dippy, well, kumbaya thing going, they 0.52

00:53:52.540 can't fire him.

00:53:53.480 They can't fire him because that'll be trans... 1.00

00:53:55.220 That would be too aggressive.

00:53:56.800 Yeah, it'll be a micro-aggression.

00:54:00.180 Micro-aggression or a macro-aggression.

00:54:01.720 A macro-aggression.

00:54:02.860 Okay, so you...

00:54:03.680 So I think that will take care of itself or the Greens and the next polls will be bloody

00:54:09.580 interesting.

00:54:10.020 Can, you know, can they, or are they going to be teetering around 5%?

00:54:17.740 I think they might be.

00:54:20.000 I think most people reacted like you do to this news.

00:54:24.080 And most people don't like pedophile adjacent people who promote eating feces as part of 0.92

00:54:30.460 your health and sexual relationships. 0.99

00:54:31.880 That's just f***ing weird. 0.94

00:54:33.880 All right.

00:54:34.880 So...

00:54:35.880 So that's your prediction there.

00:54:38.580 And I think the lesson for you here in Australia is let's find that stuff before, during the

00:54:43.980 campaign's a perfect time.

00:54:44.980 And let's figure out the Greens in Australia.

00:54:46.300 What their relationship with is the Greens in New Zealand?

00:54:48.880 Yep.

00:54:49.380 Yes.

00:54:50.380 Ask them if they'd have Benjamin Bussey Doyle in there, candidate.

00:54:54.760 Look, I do have like a long list of great questions for the Greens.

00:54:58.640 And I did, sorry, a few weeks ago, the leader of the Greens party was set to, they were holding

00:55:07.160 a launch campaign in Paran, so like very close to the Jewish community.

00:55:13.200 So a bunch of Jews quietly organized to go and essentially gather next to their gathering with a few signs.

00:55:23.500 So they were going to do like a silent protest right across from the Greens.

00:55:27.300 And what do you know, they canceled their event because the optics, I guess it doesn't look that good having a minority, 1.00

00:55:35.000 minority, standing there silently, respectfully, peacefully protesting you.

00:55:40.680 So I didn't get the chance to ask them, so I do, I'm definitely going to add that to the list of questions and I'm sure our paths will cross in this campaign.

00:55:51.920 So, secondly, with the New Zealand Herald and New Zealand Me, your prediction there, the outcome, what is it?

00:55:59.120 I think Grennan and the other right-thinking shareholders win eventually, but it will be a very bitter, bitter fight.

00:56:07.980 Do you think it might take down the company?

00:56:09.480 It will be a watershed moment in New Zealand's media landscape.

00:56:13.540 Okay, that is, we will follow that through.

00:56:18.680 And what was, so when it comes to Winston, so what do you think the prediction there and all these issues?

00:56:26.180 I think Winston, I think Winston is, he had his 80th birthday last Friday.

00:56:31.240 Wow, he doesn't look 80.

00:56:33.860 He doesn't act 80.

00:56:36.140 I think he's in his element.

00:56:37.620 I think he is going to hound and destabilize Chris Lutzen for being a wokester, 1.00

00:56:44.520 either until the coalition falls apart or the next election, Winston could out-poll the National Party.

00:56:53.320 Oh, you give me, I need one of those predictions.

00:56:57.340 Which one are you going with?

00:57:03.280 He up-polls the National Party at the next election.

00:57:05.440 Next election.

00:57:06.600 Okay, and just before you go, Israel, I know you just came back and there's probably so much, in summary.

00:57:12.860 There is nothing like going there, and I don't want to be saying that.

00:57:16.540 How many times have you been there?

00:57:18.380 I've never been before.

00:57:19.840 Oh, this was your first trip to Israel?

00:57:21.540 First time.

00:57:22.240 I've been to Egypt a few times.

00:57:24.260 I've been down to Sinai, to Sheikh O'Shaam, many years ago.

00:57:28.300 Yeah.

00:57:29.480 I had seven, eight days on the ground there, and we covered a lot of ground, and we talked to a hell of a lot of people,

00:57:37.300 Palestinians and Israelis and officials and people in civil society.

00:57:41.900 I'd already made a kind of moral decision.

00:57:47.180 If I was a reporter in Germany in 1938, I'd like to think I'd go there from a foreign country and say, 0.85

00:57:52.600 these buggers are bad. 0.99

00:57:54.440 Well, I think Hamas are bad. 1.00

00:57:56.100 I think all those.

00:57:57.640 But there are good Palestinians. 1.00

00:57:59.260 This is about Hamas, and this is about a country traumatized by the most horrific invasion. 0.84

00:58:05.320 And I've met again.

00:58:06.880 I saw the video again.

00:58:08.900 I met the relatives of hostages.

00:58:12.300 I met people who had fled from Nova.

00:58:15.880 I went to Nova.

00:58:16.880 I went to one of the kibbutzes that lost 100 people. 1.00

00:58:20.540 And you don't do that and not have it profoundly change your view on the world.

00:58:27.400 I know what's happening in Gaza.

00:58:29.100 Part of that is a humanitarian bloody disaster, too.

00:58:32.060 And I know that the Israeli people I spoke to, and I'm not going to say Jewish,

00:58:37.720 the Israeli people I spoke to are acutely aware of the tragedy on both sides of this.

00:58:44.860 But Israel's got a right. 0.88

00:58:48.100 I think not only Israel, but they have a moral.

00:58:50.640 And you know what?

00:58:52.360 Jewish people have got a bloody right, too. 1.00

00:58:54.180 And I'd hate to live in a world where we see 1938, 1939, and a rise of semitism again. 1.00

00:59:03.300 And as a journalist, I'm not going to let, not on my bloody watch, if I can help it.

00:59:07.440 Well, I appreciate it.

00:59:08.600 And it actually takes me back to the one line.

00:59:11.660 You know, at some points in that Joe Rogan episode with Dave Smith, I was like,

00:59:15.840 thinking about some of the things that he would say.

00:59:19.520 And at one point, Douglas Murray turns to Dave Smith and realizes that he's never actually

00:59:24.420 even been to Israel or even the region.

00:59:27.120 And he was genuinely shocked.

00:59:30.080 He goes, why wouldn't you go there?

00:59:32.540 And Dave Smith goes, I've never been to you.

00:59:36.000 Have you ever been to Nazi Germany?

00:59:37.380 No, but you can visit Auschwitz.

00:59:40.340 And that should have been Douglas's government.

00:59:41.660 No, but you can go and see the concentration camps, buddy.

00:59:44.860 That's true.

00:59:46.880 That's actually a different, because Dave Smith kept going, Douglas never managed, never really

00:59:52.920 got back to that point.

00:59:54.060 So he could have made that point.

00:59:55.520 He could have also said, if this was the 1930s and I made my whole career over talking about

01:00:04.700 Nazi Germany and there was an opportunity to go and look at it for myself, of course I 0.71

01:00:08.900 would go.

01:00:09.440 I would try to go.

01:00:11.660 But here you have the opportunity.

01:00:13.520 So he kind of did that.

01:00:14.480 He says, well, I don't have a time machine.

01:00:16.940 But I felt like he should have made the point stronger as in, if this is what you're creating

01:00:22.420 your entire persona over, then go and look at it.

01:00:26.920 At least go and look at it.

01:00:27.920 And if you still believe what you believe at the end of it, then I'd argue you're either

01:00:34.100 full of that.

01:00:34.720 The juxtaposition of the people I see on television screens and in the streets of New Zealand,

01:00:42.380 young students, and I've had them chanting in my face, blood on your hands, river to the

01:00:47.320 sea.

01:00:47.580 I look at those waste of frickin' space and oxygen, and I see the young people, I don't 1.00

01:00:55.080 know, at a fast food joint in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem or up north or down south.

01:01:02.580 And, you know, lovely girls, 19 years old with long hair, and they've got an AR-15 rifle

01:01:09.500 strapped across their back.

01:01:10.620 And they are putting their lives on the line for their nation and their families.

01:01:17.900 And I talk to a lot of them who feel conflicted by it, but Jesus, what admirable young people

01:01:23.520 compared to the dropkits who put a tea towel on their head and think they're changing the

01:01:28.240 world in the West.

01:01:30.540 On that note, mate, thanks so much for your time today.

01:01:33.420 That was a great conversation, as I was expecting.

01:01:36.780 Good on you, mate.

01:01:37.640 We'll catch up soon, Arby.

01:01:38.820 So I'll be wanting to check in with you on how the Aussie election's going, too.

01:01:44.520 So it's that time of the week again where we go through your comments as Rebel News Plus

01:01:48.540 subscribers.

01:01:49.580 I encourage you to get involved in the conversations on my stories through the week.

01:01:53.680 So you can go to rebelnews.com.au and check out the stories each day or via the emails and

01:01:59.560 have your say.

01:02:00.440 And I'll probably read out your comment and maybe answer it here live on the Yamini Report

01:02:05.640 each week.

01:02:06.660 All right, so the first story that I want to touch on was this insane story where a 75-year-old

01:02:15.660 grandma, Jewish grandmother, was violently tackled and choked by police. 0.95

01:02:22.680 She was a sweetheart.

01:02:23.580 You've got to watch that video if you haven't watched it.

01:02:25.080 She was just so sweet, harmless.

01:02:27.260 She'd put her umbrella in front of her and the police took her down. 0.82

01:02:32.740 The brave big cops took her down, you know, while ignoring every single one of those anti-Israel,

01:02:40.980 pro-Palestinian thugs that have taken over our streets and done crimes like you saw the

01:02:46.420 week before. 0.98

01:02:47.780 Threatened to kill in front of police.

01:02:49.640 They got no treatment.

01:02:52.340 They were not arrested.

01:02:54.400 But this old lady they took down. 1.00

01:02:56.680 Anyway, so some of your comments here.

01:02:58.640 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:59.040 Jamie, what's wrong with these morons who call themselves police? 1.00

01:03:03.420 Like, seriously, do they have no education, no common sense? 1.00

01:03:07.100 Who is training them?

01:03:08.600 Totally agree. 1.00

01:03:10.140 What's going through their dumb heads? 1.00

01:03:11.980 They manhandle a 75-year-old woman when clearly the other protesters are the threat. 1.00

01:03:17.400 These are all the points I've made.

01:03:18.480 Police are supposed to be there to handle danger, not the least dangerous.

01:03:31.840 It's not just Australia.

01:03:33.840 Many, if not all our Western countries now look like this.

01:03:37.620 Our leaders are just throwing our countries in the trash cans.

01:03:42.420 And that's true.

01:03:43.140 You do see this same story happening globally.

01:03:45.640 And it's generations after us that will have to live in these countries once these terrorists 0.90

01:03:53.360 take over and start running them.

01:03:55.560 They have already started.

01:03:57.180 They're in our police forces, our politics.

01:03:59.800 At least twice now, we have had a Muslim politician here in Ontario, Canada, try to bring Sharia 1.00

01:04:06.020 law to Canada.

01:04:07.500 It was voted down for now.

01:04:09.200 And it's a good point.

01:04:10.220 Here in Australia, right now, we're in an election.

01:04:12.160 And you have this new group called Muslim Votes, which are endorsing independent Islamist

01:04:19.580 candidates, essentially what they're doing.

01:04:21.880 And you're right.

01:04:23.260 If they're not successful in this election, it's just for now.

01:04:28.140 This is a trend that's happening.

01:04:29.960 And we brought it on ourselves because we've imported this.

01:04:32.960 We've allowed our governments to import this hatred.

01:04:35.740 And now when they're acting up, they're doing nothing.

01:04:39.820 They're targeting the victims.

01:04:41.160 And they're saying that they're targeting these people for their own safety, don't they?

01:04:45.160 I'm sure I asked Elza, that lovely 75-year-old lady, if she feels safer now that the police

01:04:51.920 are treating her like the criminal.

01:04:54.560 And yes, you can watch that interview to see how much safer she feels thanks to them.

01:04:59.000 It's a bit like COVID, when they tackled the old women, what was it, they pepper sprayed 0.98

01:05:04.000 that old woman in the face on the ground. 0.57

01:05:07.040 Yes.

01:05:07.660 And they were doing that all back then.

01:05:09.040 They were saying, for our own safety, for that old lady's safety.

01:05:13.020 Bruce says, I wish more Gentiles would stand with these Jewish protesters.

01:05:17.460 It's the size of the mob that matters. 0.98

01:05:19.600 So if peace-loving Gentiles joined the Jews, it would give the cowardly cops pause. 0.99

01:05:26.600 And Western governments must arrest and prosecute the leaders of this anti-Semite mob. 0.95

01:05:32.500 That's how we can reclaim our lands from this miscredience.

01:05:36.880 So I think you're right, Bruce.

01:05:39.700 The fact is, it's a double problem here.

01:05:42.440 Firstly, there are a few non-Jews, a few Christians, and you can see their flags.

01:05:48.280 I think they're Samoan Christians who go and stand with the Jews.

01:05:52.600 But the numbers are tiny, and that's why.

01:05:55.080 The police, I think many of the cops on the beat on the front line,

01:05:59.120 actually, probably if they had to pick a side, they would not stand with the Islamist mob.

01:06:07.820 Although, lately, who knows, they've been infiltrated by both Islamists and far left.

01:06:13.560 But, generally, I think most cops understand because one side actually does support law enforcement

01:06:20.480 and is anti-terrorism, which is all part of that same thing.

01:06:25.740 And the other side isn't.

01:06:27.900 But, you know, so Jews don't like to go out and protest. 0.75

01:06:32.400 A lot of them are scared to do it, or they're living happily in their community in Caulford,

01:06:37.660 which is about half an hour from the city, and they don't want to waste their days protesting.

01:06:42.860 But, also, I think it's a conservative thing.

01:06:44.240 Like, the real genuine conservatives, whether they're Christian conservatives or secular conservatives,

01:06:50.440 they just don't traditionally protest.

01:06:52.900 It is a left-wing thing.

01:06:54.700 And so, that's why you see the loud minority, the cooker left,

01:07:00.400 the pink and blue-haired trans, you know, like the one we've been talking about in this whole episode.

01:07:07.360 They rally here in Australia.

01:07:08.860 They always have.

01:07:09.960 And they get their numbers.

01:07:11.000 And now they're, on top of that, you add a big portion of the Islamic community

01:07:17.680 that is going to stand up to rally against the Jews.

01:07:23.160 So, you've got this unholy alliance, which gives them the numbers,

01:07:26.300 which I just don't think you're going to match on the other side.

01:07:29.100 Because the alliance between the conservative and the Jews is from two groups that don't protest. 0.84

01:07:35.220 Like, Elza was saying herself, in her entire 75 years, she's never really protested.

01:07:40.260 This was her first time.

01:07:40.980 She's just had enough.

01:07:41.780 She's like, I've escaped communist Poland,

01:07:45.600 and I don't want to see this country that I love so much, Australia, 0.99

01:07:50.440 I don't want to see it go to shit, and I'm going to stand up. 0.99

01:07:55.780 And that's what's playing out here. 0.99

01:07:59.000 So, you're not going to see the big numbers.

01:08:01.280 And how do we reclaim it is by forcing, I think, the police to actually do their jobs.

01:08:05.980 And even when there are small numbers of brave Jews or Christians, 1.00

01:08:12.220 whoever, that are standing up against a mob, 0.92

01:08:14.180 the police need to do their freaking jobs and protect them, 0.70

01:08:17.360 uphold their right to counter-protest this mob. 0.95

01:08:22.360 But will we see it?

01:08:23.380 I don't know.

01:08:23.680 It really comes down to public outrage.

01:08:26.380 If the public get angry enough, even from home,

01:08:29.940 at the police for not doing their job,

01:08:31.940 then something will hopefully change.

01:08:34.700 Heather says,

01:08:35.760 Melbourne, London, Toronto,

01:08:37.640 the West needs to reclaim their cities from this ruination.

01:08:41.980 I think that just confirms what we just said a moment ago.

01:08:46.120 I absolutely agree.

01:08:48.100 Will we?

01:08:50.780 I think Toronto and Melbourne probably have this upcoming elections for both of us

01:08:57.200 is going to be the answer between whether it's possible or not.

01:09:04.720 I think if the left win in Canada,

01:09:07.860 so if Carney wins in Canada and Labour or Labour Greens wins in Australia,

01:09:13.520 I think it's going to be too late.

01:09:15.960 Joanne says,

01:09:17.440 Jesus, if God,

01:09:19.940 I'm assuming Jesus is God.

01:09:21.880 I'm not a particularly religious person,

01:09:26.240 so I'm not going to have a strong stance on that one,

01:09:27.960 but happy for you to comment.

01:09:31.760 So then we have this story of an unhinged rant 1.00

01:09:34.700 called for white people to be exterminated. 0.99

01:09:40.200 Recognition Victoria standing by its co-chair 1.00

01:09:42.720 despite a deleted social media post

01:09:45.020 calling for non-indigenous Australians 0.99

01:09:47.080 to leave the country or face extermination. 0.94

01:09:50.860 Wow, look at this lovely person.

01:09:56.320 And the interesting thing is,

01:09:58.060 you know,

01:09:58.260 they're also attacking essentially all immigrants,

01:10:01.880 which is all new immigrants.

01:10:03.520 So it's weird.

01:10:05.200 The left have this confusing stance

01:10:07.940 because everything is,

01:10:09.260 it's the First Nations people's thing

01:10:11.940 and everyone else,

01:10:13.640 everyone else,

01:10:15.080 and when they say everyone else,

01:10:16.140 they're talking about white colonizers 1.00

01:10:17.840 must be destroyed and exterminated, 1.00

01:10:21.120 as this person would say. 1.00

01:10:22.120 But all the immigrants in the middle 1.00

01:10:25.160 that this woke left love to bring in,

01:10:29.300 they don't mention them,

01:10:30.460 even though often,

01:10:31.960 more often than not,

01:10:32.840 they're the ones actually destroying

01:10:34.020 this great country.

01:10:35.220 Bruce says, 0.99

01:10:35.800 what an evil, ungodly man. 0.98

01:10:37.700 Today's Australians aren't responsible 0.97

01:10:40.520 for what happened in the past.

01:10:41.480 A non-Christian invading force 1.00

01:10:43.500 would have exterminated or subjugated

01:10:45.920 the First Peoples.

01:10:47.460 History shows that stronger people groups

01:10:50.600 defeat weak ones,

01:10:52.140 but the Christian ethos of the English

01:10:55.600 caused them to tolerate the natives 1.00

01:10:58.000 and like Devo saying,

01:11:01.660 give the past the slip.

01:11:03.640 Look,

01:11:03.800 Australia's history,

01:11:06.580 like most of the world's history,

01:11:07.780 has dark periods

01:11:09.400 and things that we should definitely not forget.

01:11:14.920 But,

01:11:15.860 as Bruce points out,

01:11:18.140 firstly,

01:11:19.900 if anyone else had come here,

01:11:21.840 you know,

01:11:22.260 let's say the Chinese had come here, 0.99

01:11:24.060 it wouldn't have been a great ending.

01:11:25.400 It would have been arguably worse

01:11:27.800 for the local Aboriginal people.

01:11:31.660 What happened to them,

01:11:33.800 in many situations,

01:11:35.960 was wrong,

01:11:37.880 but that is history.

01:11:39.140 History is full of

01:11:41.020 many wrongs to many peoples.

01:11:44.300 Come on,

01:11:44.560 I come from a culture of

01:11:45.640 people that have been

01:11:48.880 driven out of many lands,

01:11:56.080 but it's not about,

01:11:57.380 we need to remember the past.

01:11:58.660 It's about the current

01:11:59.280 and the thing is,

01:12:00.360 we live in the best country in the world

01:12:01.440 where everyone has equal opportunity,

01:12:03.280 including the First Nations,

01:12:04.680 the Indigenous people,

01:12:06.060 and

01:12:06.920 we should be happy,

01:12:09.340 we should celebrate that

01:12:10.880 as one community,

01:12:12.780 one Australia,

01:12:13.540 because,

01:12:15.100 well,

01:12:16.800 on one side,

01:12:17.500 you can look at it and say,

01:12:19.400 and realise that

01:12:20.400 if anyone else had taken this country,

01:12:22.580 you wouldn't have,

01:12:23.780 so imagine the Chinese did take it,

01:12:26.340 it would be like China, 0.96

01:12:27.840 which China in itself 0.93

01:12:29.320 is an actual racist society, 0.82

01:12:34.400 a country that doesn't tolerate

01:12:36.420 diversity.

01:12:40.220 Go look at,

01:12:40.860 ask the Uyghurs 1.00

01:12:41.800 how they feel about

01:12:42.660 Chinese diversity.

01:12:44.760 So,

01:12:45.200 we do live in the greatest country,

01:12:46.540 we do have a

01:12:47.260 dark history at points,

01:12:49.580 but we have

01:12:50.740 progressed to

01:12:53.380 the greatest country in the world

01:12:56.060 with the best opportunity,

01:12:57.800 or one of the best opportunities

01:12:58.900 in the world

01:12:59.800 for everyone that lives here.

01:13:02.120 Now,

01:13:02.380 we need to stop it,

01:13:03.560 we need to stop

01:13:04.440 before,

01:13:06.800 and in often,

01:13:07.780 in many situations,

01:13:08.540 I feel like the pendulum

01:13:09.220 has swung too far

01:13:10.400 where we are destroying

01:13:12.300 this great country,

01:13:13.560 because we're listening 1.00

01:13:14.360 to idiots 1.00

01:13:15.520 and racists 1.00

01:13:17.160 like the person

01:13:17.960 in this story.

01:13:22.060 Warren says,

01:13:23.160 excellent reconciliation skills,

01:13:25.980 this man,

01:13:26.720 this man of God

01:13:28.160 clearly has

01:13:29.060 much to teach us all.

01:13:31.580 And look,

01:13:32.600 I've learnt in my life

01:13:33.980 these men of God

01:13:35.420 are often

01:13:36.140 not men of God 0.67

01:13:39.060 at all.

01:13:39.820 I'm actually interested,

01:13:40.800 is that a video?

01:13:42.300 Oh,

01:13:42.920 it's in exile.

01:13:44.060 No,

01:13:44.260 let's not open that now.

01:13:45.460 I was interested to

01:13:46.300 see,

01:13:47.900 but,

01:13:48.180 yeah,

01:13:48.980 just because somebody

01:13:50.060 wears a cloth

01:13:50.580 doesn't mean

01:13:51.120 they're a man of God.

01:13:51.880 Just because somebody

01:13:52.460 wears a skull cap

01:13:53.740 doesn't mean

01:13:54.080 they're a pious Jew.

01:13:56.100 Anyone can

01:13:56.940 cosplay anything.

01:13:58.720 One thing I've noticed

01:13:59.540 is genuine

01:14:00.780 Christians and Jews,

01:14:03.120 they are,

01:14:06.260 when I talk to them,

01:14:07.600 they are full of love,

01:14:08.500 not hate.

01:14:10.020 And so this bloke,

01:14:11.000 I would not consider

01:14:12.180 him a real Christian.

01:14:15.040 This was my video

01:14:16.000 from last week as well

01:14:18.120 when I was walking

01:14:18.700 the streets

01:14:19.120 and I met this one

01:14:20.240 Aussie

01:14:21.000 that just broke my heart

01:14:22.640 to be honest

01:14:23.180 because

01:14:23.640 not necessarily about him,

01:14:26.580 it says about,

01:14:27.440 it kind of

01:14:28.320 exposed

01:14:29.680 the broader issue

01:14:30.800 we have in society today,

01:14:31.720 like somebody

01:14:32.600 who is happy

01:14:34.180 to think

01:14:34.860 and

01:14:35.160 who's open

01:14:40.160 to

01:14:40.960 what was

01:14:42.300 a kind discussion

01:14:43.460 but just so blatantly

01:14:44.960 full of

01:14:45.720 blind hate.

01:14:47.300 Anyways,

01:14:47.960 it was sad

01:14:48.860 because I realised

01:14:49.680 that the problems

01:14:50.580 that I've been seeing

01:14:51.500 happen over the last

01:14:52.620 progression,

01:14:53.620 progressing over the last

01:14:54.500 18 months

01:14:55.440 has,

01:14:56.740 it's not only

01:14:57.560 the crazy fringe left 0.96

01:14:59.140 or the crazy 1.00

01:14:59.940 Islamist 1.00

01:15:01.160 or Muslim,

01:15:01.920 you know,

01:15:02.360 a big faction

01:15:03.160 of the Muslim community,

01:15:04.400 it is literally

01:15:05.100 seeped into

01:15:05.940 your everyday Aussie.

01:15:08.380 Bruce says,

01:15:09.100 this is why people

01:15:09.700 must meet folks

01:15:10.900 outside their small

01:15:11.880 circle of friends.

01:15:13.180 They'll come away

01:15:14.240 with a different

01:15:14.680 point of view.

01:15:15.460 Of course,

01:15:15.940 some people

01:15:16.460 are stuck

01:15:17.180 on their own opinions.

01:15:18.100 Like,

01:15:19.420 reading that

01:15:20.480 particular guy,

01:15:21.780 I feel like

01:15:22.740 he's,

01:15:24.560 it's the internet

01:15:27.480 and it's what

01:15:28.200 he's seeing

01:15:28.640 every day.

01:15:29.340 He thinks the

01:15:29.860 mainstream media

01:15:30.580 is the one

01:15:31.220 pushing the

01:15:31.720 pro-Israel agenda.

01:15:33.300 I argue that he

01:15:34.380 obviously is not

01:15:35.240 watching the same

01:15:35.940 TV I have on

01:15:37.580 because none

01:15:38.680 of the mainstream

01:15:39.160 media is pushing

01:15:40.140 the pro-Israel

01:15:42.160 position.

01:15:42.920 Like,

01:15:43.060 I guess you can

01:15:43.880 argue Sky News.

01:15:45.360 Sky News is the

01:15:46.020 only one,

01:15:46.240 but they're not

01:15:46.980 really mainstream.

01:15:47.780 They're not on

01:15:48.140 free to air.

01:15:49.680 So he's not

01:15:50.600 watching the same

01:15:51.920 mainstream media

01:15:52.420 and he probably

01:15:53.860 it might not

01:15:55.440 even be

01:15:55.860 Friendship Circle.

01:15:57.580 It's the

01:15:58.260 dark place

01:15:58.940 on the internet

01:15:59.380 where he's

01:15:59.900 probably stuck

01:16:00.660 and being fed.

01:16:02.720 And when I say

01:16:03.140 dark place,

01:16:03.740 it can be as

01:16:04.980 simple as

01:16:06.260 TikTok.

01:16:06.860 The algorithms

01:16:07.460 on most social

01:16:08.300 media at the

01:16:08.920 moment are

01:16:09.480 feeding just

01:16:12.300 anti-Israel, 0.87

01:16:13.640 anti-Jewish

01:16:14.300 conspiracies.

01:16:15.660 And it's sad

01:16:16.120 because this

01:16:17.160 guy is probably

01:16:18.100 probably all right.

01:16:20.080 I would have

01:16:20.460 is the kind of

01:16:21.680 guy that I

01:16:22.060 probably would

01:16:22.480 have gone for

01:16:22.920 a beer with.

01:16:23.860 Before October 7th

01:16:25.080 but what he's

01:16:26.620 being fed

01:16:27.520 and he doesn't

01:16:28.140 even realise it

01:16:29.380 because

01:16:29.640 and the real

01:16:30.480 how I know

01:16:32.960 he doesn't realise

01:16:33.560 it is that

01:16:34.240 he could not

01:16:35.060 actually

01:16:35.460 he just had

01:16:36.140 these talking

01:16:36.820 points but

01:16:37.680 nothing

01:16:38.320 nothing

01:16:39.220 turned back.

01:16:40.780 Anyways,

01:16:41.280 thank you for

01:16:41.600 joining me

01:16:41.980 tonight.

01:16:42.480 I hope you

01:16:42.700 enjoyed the

01:16:43.120 interview,

01:16:44.180 the discussion

01:16:44.640 with Sean

01:16:45.360 Plunkett.

01:16:47.780 Let me know

01:16:48.520 in the comments

01:16:49.320 or in the feedback

01:16:50.320 what you thought

01:16:51.460 of this episode.

01:16:52.320 Until next week.

01:16:53.860 peace out.

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Rebel News Podcast - April 15, 2025

AVI YEMINI ｜ Sean Plunket： The trans SCANDAL rocking NZ Parliament

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