AVI YEMINI | Sean Plunket: The trans SCANDAL rocking NZ Parliament
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In today's episode of The Yamini Report, I have invited veteran journalist Sean Plunkett to unpack the wild story unfolding in New Zealand that I believe we can learn from this election. In this episode, Sean talks about the shocking revelation that a non-binary Maori transsexual has been voted into parliament by the Green Party.
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In today's episode of the Yamini Report, I have invited veteran journalist Sean Plunkett
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Welcome back to the Yamini Report, where we talk to people who are changing the world.
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And we've been focusing on the Australian elections over the last couple of weeks.
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And I think today I want to go across the ditch because I think we can take heed.
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We can, there's a warning, there's a lesson to be learnt here, and part of the project
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of what we're doing at Rebel News over the next few weeks in finding out this kind of stuff
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My guest is somebody that many of my viewers, many of you would know him.
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We've done a few, I've done a few interviews, actually not on my show, on his show.
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And it's exciting to see that you've actually joined me, and I don't have to wake up super
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For people, the viewers here, most of them wouldn't have a clue about what we're talking
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Benjamin Doyle became an MP in October of last year.
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The Green Party, which has six MPs, six or seven MPs in Parliament, kept on losing MPs
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who were doing silly things and having to resign.
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The last one before him, she was exploiting migrant workers.
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So a bit of slavery, which wasn't really down with the Greens.
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And next up on the list was a guy called Benjamin Doyle, who describes himself as a non-binary
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Look, if somebody, if a man claims not to be a man, then I'm going to question their cultural
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But he, believe it or not, prior to that was the early childhood education spokesperson
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And I've learned in the last two days that when his name came up, the leader of the Green
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Party, Chloe Schwabrick, said he has main character syndrome, which is apparently a woke
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term for being a narcissist, a self-obsessed narcissist.
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Now, I've heard from two different sources that when they realized they were going to have
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to put him into parliament because they kept losing MPs, they were a bit worried.
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They also suggested to him that he scrub some Instagram and social media posts in which his
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biography included a blue swirl, regarded by the FBI as being a kind of nod and a wink
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between pedophiles who were wanting to talk online.
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He also had a persona in this Instagram account.
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I've lived a sheltered life, so I didn't know that bussy means, and excuse, you know, excuses
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Or in other words, the rear aperture of a boy in a sexual context.
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He posted a picture on this of him with his seven or eight-year-old son on his knee that
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The Green Party asked him to scrub that social media before he came an MP.
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But he did take down 52 posts and left the ones that were then published up.
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A group of people researched him, published these things, and Winston Peters came out and
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Even woke Chris Luxon said that's inappropriate, but the Greens and he have doubled down, and
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Well, we'll get to that, because, so what I understand, I was kind of looking at the timeline
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of the story, and that's why I wanted to bring you on, is because I think a few people were
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writing about it, but it hadn't gained any traction until Winston Peters, who is the deputy
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And I watched that interview, which then kicked off a firestorm, but it didn't actually play
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out the way that I reckon the average, at least Aussie, or any normal person would think,
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Can you tell us about that, or do I have it wrong?
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Well, mainstream media, A, didn't want to cover the story, okay?
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I was getting calls from mainstream journalists, oh, you're going to actually interview, you're
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So, then they used our interview with Winston, but, oh, they didn't say, this is dodgy, this
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They said, oh, this is just a terrible right-wing conspiracy.
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It's imported culture wars by bad faith actors.
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People don't understand how the gay community makes light of sex with children and pedophilia.
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They don't understand that this is all just a bit of banter in the gay community.
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Now, the gay community came out, and they said, what a load of BS.
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The Green Party's just thrown us under the bus.
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But mainstream media continued to paint him as the victim and have asked no serious questions
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Well, I watched the press conference the day after your interview went to air, I believe
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It was essentially them painting it as, and when I'm saying them, it's the Greens Party with
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the cover of the mainstream media, painting it as a far-right conspiracy in which the PM
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That should be who's condemned in this story, not the person who's potentially, I don't know,
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I didn't know what that term meant or what those emojis mean, and that's probably because
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Now that it's come to light, how are they taking that position?
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I think most New Zealanders are outraged, are outraged at what's happened, but we do
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Well, because no crime was apparent except for being a bit creepy.
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So he held a press conference a week later, said, I'm going to be my true self.
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I was a bit naive, but I haven't done anything wrong.
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And this is just people being prejudiced against people like me.
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It's illegal to try and counsel a child away from being gay.
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But if you want to, or your teacher or one of the taxpayer-funded trans radical groups
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in our education system wants to transition you, they've got, you know, open slather.
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I can't believe what I'm telling you when I think about the country I live in.
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Do you think this is going to cost the Greens the fact that they are taking the position
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Even our not particularly agile, politically agile prime minister has distanced himself
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But the problem is the only way Labour can get in at the next election is with the support
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And if the Green Party have a person who is, let's put it nicely, pedophile adjacent running
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as a candidate, I think a lot of middle New Zealanders who might vote centre-left will
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say, no way, I'm letting that guy into parliament.
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Labour, I know, behind the scenes are saying, why don't you dump him?
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But the Greens have backed themselves into an ideological woke corner they can't get out of.
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I think it's interesting because we're living that right now here in Australia.
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And it looks like the only kind of likely outcome that Labour is to re-win the election is by forming
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And we're seeing some interesting characters pop up.
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In fact, we're starting like a team of researchers just to do, and somewhat inspired by this story,
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to essentially go and, background, to vet these candidates from the Greens, but also new,
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there's a couple of dodgy new Labour candidates that we don't know anything about until,
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And he shouldn't, I mean, the problem with our Green Party is they're no longer about the
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We all know that that particular piece of wokeness is falling apart at a rate of knots.
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They're all about transing and identity politics and the ideology.
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And the people who founded the Green Party here would be spinning, or at least one of them
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would be spinning in his grave at what the party's turned into.
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But, Avi, can I ask you, is Dutton's campaign cry, let's get Australia back on track?
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It's embarrassing to say that I'm pretty sure, but...
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And I was going to get onto that in a second once we finish unpacking this story.
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So we'll come back to that because I really want to get my head around this and what we
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can learn from it here in Australia, even from the perspective of somebody who's worried
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Because I think that's the most likely case for Labor coming back into power in a few more
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That's the worst possible outcome, a Labor minority government with the Greens, because
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like you say, they're not about the environment anymore.
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In Australia as well, they're literally about these kinds of issues.
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I've done a lot of watching this morning on this.
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Well, the other thing the Greens do here, of course, here's one of the guys who puts the
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tea towel on and chants from the river to the sea.
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Yeah, I did notice that, which again is interesting.
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And I think our government, I think Winston actually, might say New Zealand's with Israel.
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I get the feeling that there are some in our government who's saying, bugger that, we're
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Are they realising that Luxon's just weak on everything, including Israel?
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He's kind of taken this position that seems like a Labour-lite position on everything?
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At the moment, Luxon is having Trump derangement syndrome.
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Now, if you were smart, you're a country the size of New Zealand, I don't know what's going
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on in the White House, but I know that Trump doesn't give us stuff what we think, right?
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Best thing we can do, make ourselves a small target, smile nicely, and answer the phone
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Our Prime Minister since last Thursday has been running around ringing all the Prime Ministers
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of Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, the European Union, saying, hey, we should form some sort
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of free trade agreement and fight back against Trump.
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To the point where Winston Peters, his foreign minister, said, maybe the Prime Minister
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should have called me before he launched this initiative.
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And the other thing, he was in Hawaii and he said, there's quite a lot of hysterical knee-jerk
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And that is Winston Peters ticking off Luxon directly.
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It is the most obvious sign of tension within our coalition government for the past year and
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So I understand here in Australia and in Canada as well at the moment, because it's kind of
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all this tariff situation has fallen out during an election period, which it seems like in
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Australia and in Canada, it's hurting the Conservatives more than anything.
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I don't think he's more focused on internal politics in America, as I don't blame him.
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He should be, but I guess we're all collateral damage.
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But what I don't understand is why in New Zealand, why would Luxon in New Zealand, who's
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not currently campaigning for re-election, why is he taking that weird?
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Because the weird position that I'm finding is both here and in Canada, I'm seeing the
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So you've got obviously Labour talking tough against Donald Trump.
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That's their partisan position anyways, no matter whether they're running or not, that's
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But then what you're seeing is the Conservatives here and in Canada, they're kind of also talking
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tough and trying to show, like, their position is, we're actually tougher than Labour against
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Whereas I would think that they could walk in and go, look, we're Conservative.
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The problem is Labour has been in power all this time and got us into this situation.
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If we were in power, we would be able to negotiate a proper deal for our country and represent
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ourselves as proper Conservatives in which Trump respects.
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He won't engage on issues around the Treaty of Waitani, sort of racial issues in New Zealand.
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He doesn't want to get into the transgender issue.
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So he sells himself as this deal-making businessman.
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It's almost as if he thinks himself as a tiny little woke Donald Trump.
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And the problem is he comes, as I imagine is now obvious in Australia, half the problem
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with DEI and ideology has been driven by the corporate world, by companies with HR departments
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And when he was head of Air New Zealand, his last major job, Chris Luxon applied the same
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And I think the truth of it underneath it all, he's as woke and as ideological as the Labour
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Party is. And people who voted for national and voted for not just economic recovery and a change
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in economic policy, people who voted for a change in culture are increasingly disappointed
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And Winston is saying, I'm going to deliver it to you.
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And so are the ACT Party, the other party on the right.
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So for people that aren't that familiar, including myself, with the New Zealand current
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structure, when Winston says that he will, what does that mean?
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Is he just trying to draw votes for what, though?
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And he's literally used this, I'm going to war on woke.
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Sure, but he's, he's, he's, he's, what's he called?
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New Zealand First, which is, which essentially makes government with the conservative National
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So they're on the centre-left, they're a populist party.
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Um, and on the right of national, supposedly, is the ACT Party, who are economic rationalists
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I think for the first time in my lifetime, there's a possibility that National isn't the
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That ACT or Winston could supplant them as the biggest party in this three-way coalition.
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So that would make, that would, that, that would translate.
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Does that mean that he has a chance of becoming prime minister?
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It also means that we may not, we've got 18 months left to run on this government.
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Is that because Winston's, um, Winston, um, if Winston wages war on the part, on, on the
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prime minister, then he has to call it an election early.
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And if Winston grabs those votes that he's hoping to grab, then he becomes the major party.
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Yeah, well, look, it'd be, uh, uh, I'd have to have a few more drinks to, to convince me
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that it's going to happen, but it is a possibility.
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And we're seeing these tensions start to spill over.
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On issues that the average New Zealander actually, as, as hard as the mainstream media is working
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to, to, to make them fringe issues, but the, the average New Zealander is actually on board.
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And, you know, we've just had a, a survey, a major academic survey of trusted media in
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So they don't include the platform in the survey, even though our audience is massive, but it found,
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well, the best they can say is, uh, distrusted mainstream media has leveled out one in three
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people trust the mainstream media in New Zealand, which is about what it was last year.
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And how, and how many people work in the public sector in New Zealand?
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I think it's about nine or 10% of our population.
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So you've got to minus them off the one in three.
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That's just about 20% of the population who don't work in government that, that trust
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We've got a massive battle for control of our biggest media company called NZ Me.
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Just before we go over to that, one thing I did notice in the press conference at the
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Greens was doing on this Doyle story, which is like a mind blowing story to the, I think
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to any normal person, if you see, if there's any question, any hint of pedophilia on any
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level, you would go, okay, I'm going to stand down this person until we do a thorough
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Like I think any, any, uh, a parent, especially any parent in New Zealand will look at that
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And, you know, clearly we don't understand all the ins and outs and they're trying to
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explain it away saying that it's just a, the, the, the way the rainbow community talks,
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but you know, the average person would go to hold on.
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If this is what the FBI, this is what the law enforcement is saying about what this means.
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Let's actually get a proper understanding and let's not trust the perpetrators to do an
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internal investigation and, and, and actually get to the bottom of it.
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Um, but what I noticed in that press conference is the way that the Greens and then the media
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ran up on it, that they, they kind of said it was a right wing debt and then they throw
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in the destiny church, um, element to kind of, to make people, cause you know, obviously
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I'm apparently part of the lynch mob, the great vast right wing conspiracy.
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Well, you would have to, but that's, but that's my point is you would have to be really what
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they're referring to because I think you're the one that elevated the story to the point
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In fact, an international discussion, but, um, what, what's destiny's, what was destiny
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Or was that just the Greens using a boogie man?
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I actually haven't got into it except Brian saying that he believes that it's wrong, like
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the vast number of New Zealanders, but they have taken a stand against drag queen
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means reading stories to kids in public libraries, which I think most New Zealanders now that,
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but New Zealanders haven't known what's been going on.
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They don't know that millions of dollars of New Zealand taxpayer funding has gone into funding
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groups that get into our schools and recruit kids to be trans.
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Um, maybe more people now as a result of the Benjamin Bussey thing have got an idea that
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so the, the fact that they're drawing in destiny church as part of the conversation,
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is that the media just grabbing the boogeyman one that they think.
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Oh yeah, because, because they figure they can discredit anyone associated with.
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Do you think that it is having the effect they think, or do you think that that in,
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in fact, is going to potentially have a counter, the opposite effect in people going,
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hold on, destiny church seems to be on the right side of this conversation lately,
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that it might actually attract more people to destiny church.
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Listen, I personally love the guy, but I'm just, I, I, I, I understand talking to New Zealand.
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History is judging him far less harshly on these cultural issues than our woke legacy media do.
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I think history is going to treat him somewhat more kindly than the headlines you read about.
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I was talking to a friend who was suddenly aware when his people got arrested,
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protesting a, a drag queen story time in LinkedIn, what's all this about?
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And I said, his people were protesting guys dressed up as girls reading sexually provocative
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I said, because you don't listen to the right use channels.
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And this person said, well, that's sick and it shouldn't happen.
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So maybe some parts of New Zealand are waking up to the, and you've picked it, the absolutely
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Well, anecdotally as well, I've noticed that talking to Kiwis I know that weren't particular
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In fact, whenever I talked about it and they, they kind of rolled their eyes to the back
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of their heads, but then in suddenly I've seen, I have seen a shift and I don't know,
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look, it's not, this is not a scientific thing.
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This is like, not a broad thing, but I feel like there is a kind of this shift where he's
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And it's because of the, the, the, the stories in which his name keeps popping up now is things
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that they actually go, yeah, that, that is crazy.
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And we probably, since the change of government, don't have the climate of fear of cancellation
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that was so strictly enforced and encouraged by the previous Labour government.
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You stepped out of line and you were gone, your business was gone, your career was gone.
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Now, one, we're going to, we're going to NZME in a second, but I wanted to understand because
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I saw that the Doyle story, he, so he's actually married to a woman, but it was a, that was a
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She's a teacher too, and they're transitioning their kid, but he's in, I am reliably informed,
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a polyamorous relationship, which is, yeah, and he wanted to actually, last Greens Party
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conference, he wanted to get polyamory adopted as a Green Party policy.
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So, supposedly he's got a boyfriend, and he lives with the mother of his child, and they're
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Oh, look, I don't know if you're ready for this.
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This is actually the bombshell you might not have picked up on.
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It's really distasteful, but I'm going to tell you the truth.
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So, he used to work for a thing called the Burnett Foundation, which was the AIDS Foundation,
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and runs all these gay conversion, become trans things in our schools.
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They scrubbed out an article that he wrote last year about the joys of eating feces as
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He wrote a whole article about how wonderful this was, and maybe your parents have done it.
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Well, the Burnett Foundation took it down off their website.
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Well, the AIDS Foundation, it's funded by the government, and supposedly it's about tolerance
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and inclusion and getting kids to understand this.
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And so, as part of that, they had him write an article about...
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So, like, this is clearly somebody with mental health issues.
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He was let go from a couple of his teaching roles, we understand, because of inappropriate friendliness with students.
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So, he married her later, that had a kid, and then somehow this kid is suddenly born in the wrong body.
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What are the chances, Arby, that there'd be one of the nine million kids who actually is gender dysphoric?
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In Australia, we had the Animal Justice Party leader, I think he was.
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He spent his parliamentary privilege one day to stand up and basically just keep calling me a Nazi.
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He had a son and daughter, and he still has a son and daughter, but they've switched over.
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Why does it always seem to keep happening to the ideological people?
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So, they've got such tolerant, virtue-signalling parents.
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It's bloody madness, and it should be criminal.
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I was going to say, you know, because if you're a believer, then it would have been, well, God...
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Well, you just came back from Israel, and I did want to hear about that.
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I'm going to keep writing stories about it, and I'm sure independent research is another big order.
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Because what are you charging with, being inappropriate online?
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If law enforcement in America is saying this is pedophilic...
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Surely, that's grounds to open an investigation, which means, fine, they don't have anything to charge him with yet, but they can seize his electronics, and we know he's deleting stuff.
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Surely, if he really is potentially going down that path, there's going to be something incriminating on his computers.
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Yeah, well, that would require us to have a police force that hasn't been woke-ified by the last Labor government, wouldn't it?
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What if it turns out, then, that they let this go, and then it comes out one day that, you know, they've let it, which is quite possible?
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I guess it's almost better for him to stay in the Greens Party for New Zealand's politics, because it'll make...
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Yeah, it increases the right's chance of victory.
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Why don't you ask the Australian Green Party what their relationship is with the New Zealand Green Party?
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We might actually try that, but I think for New Zealand, for Winston, it's probably perfect, because he could run ads in the next election just solely on this guy.
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A bit like what Trump did with his most popular ad in the election was, she's for they, them, I'm for you.
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Okay, so NZME, for those who don't know, largest privately held media company in New Zealand.
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The newspaper of record, The Herald comes out of NZME, and the biggest talkback and radio network, they own about half the radio stations in the country, including Newstalk ZB, which is a centre-rightish talkback show, biggest audience in the country, and makes all the money for NZME.
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But the print side and the digital side of that business is full of some of the most woke virtue-signalling journalists in the country, who are in line with all the other.
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And they're the guys who came after you and called you and asked you, and in fact intervened to get you banned from the country.
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Exactly, and you know, the last time I was there, again, so that time when they got, when they intervened to get me banned, they didn't put, they didn't put any byline.
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And then I came back, when I came back to film the documentary with Destiny, which is yet to come, that's, I think we're a few weeks off.
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No, so it wasn't David Fisher, so again, it was some girl from the New Zealand Herald, I got her name anyways, but my point was, so they didn't call me to ask me any questions.
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They went to Destiny to get comment about me, and then they wrote this, you know, another hit piece on me.
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And it was, again, without a byline, but I knew, because the Destiny guys gave me the name and number of the person, and I kept calling them, because I wanted to get on camera.
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I was going to just, I had the best lineup of questioning, just like, how do you land here, and do you, I hear you, I hear you're looking to talk to me, here I am.
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Do you want me to answer some of the questions in your story?
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But they ran it again without a byline, anyways, it's not about me.
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Your mate David Fisher, by the way, is transing his kid as well.
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I don't know why, I don't know why I'm just trying to feed the anti-Semites here.
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So NZ meat, biggest, you know, the 64,000 pound gorilla in the New Zealand media scene,
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and a bunch of shareholders, I don't know if they got together, but a guy bought in, he spent $20 million buying into the company,
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and I think he got about 12% or something, 9% to 12%, a guy called Jim Grennan.
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And Jim is a Canadian, expat Canadian billionaire.
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And Jim says, I reckon the Herald's a bit stuffed and it's a bit woke.
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And what's also happened, and I did another story on today, the Herald has been picking and choosing who can advertise, given their political bent.
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Which is crazy if they're not making any money.
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Well, unions can pay $20,000 for a front page wraparound of the paper, but a group called Hobson's Pledge, which raises questions about the predominance of Māori rights in New Zealand,
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Family First, which is a conservative group, they're not allowed to advertise.
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They turned down advertising from the New Zealand Jewish Council, calling for tolerance after October the 7th, when they had run advertising from pro-Palestinian protesters, calling for boycotts on Israeli goods.
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So what has happened is about 37% of the shareholders, Jim Grennan said, I want the whole board of this company fired.
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The chairman of the board, by the way, is the patron of the Rainbow Tick movement in New Zealand.
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So she is totally into the Benjamin Doyle stuff.
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And he got the, there's a, Sephero group in Australia owned 16%.
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They're, I think, the biggest single shareholder.
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And they've said, we're going to go to the AGM and we're going to vote to fire the entire board.
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And then we're going to get this outfit back on track and stop it being so woke.
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Well, the board, who were appointed by the shareholders, they said, oh, no.
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We're going to fight being fired by the people who own the company we work for.
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And this would destroy democracy in New Zealand.
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And we must be allowed to run our media company the way we think it should be run, not our shareholders.
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Unions have gone on side with them and there is now a death match going on.
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And the board are trying to get New Zealand business regulators to declare the move illegal.
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And an absolute war of words for control of our biggest media empire because it is so culturally influential.
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I don't know how much you know about Jim, but I don't think he's going to give in on this.
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And he's a, he's, I think he's a lawyer as well.
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All the other legacy media and TV and did say, oh, Jim Grennan, he's dodgy.
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And the very idea for these people that a billionaire should be allowed to exercise control over a business.
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Presumably that's why Jim is a billionaire because he's quite good at business.
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But they're saying, oh, no, you can't touch the woke news media.
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Well, and I think it has implications around the world.
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I think that if he succeeds, and maybe he's been inspired by what we already see, things like Twitter and some of the other publications, even in the wake of Trump's, who was it?
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Was it the Washington, who refused to run a, because usually in every election they ran a, an editorial.
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Was it Washington Post that refused to run at this time and it caused a shitstorm because basically he was hedging his bet.
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He knew, he knew which way it was going to go and he didn't want to be, land on the bad side there.
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But I, I, I, I dare say he's, he's probably being inspired by that.
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So that, and, and that could, um, because I, I had no idea that he owned that much of it.
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9% and he puts it together with a bunch of other people.
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And the accusation is that he has conspired with other people to make decisions that would be bad for the company and not in the interest of other.
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Did he recently buy in or was this, he's had it for a while?
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So, um, and at the moment they're all gagged from talking to each other about the deal or talking to their own staff about the deal.
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Uh, for the first time in 30 years, our takeovers panel has invoked these ridiculous powers they have to say any conversation you have about this might be germane to our inquiry.
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So what, so what, what are we waiting for now at this point?
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We're waiting for a hearing, a secret hearing of the takeovers panel to decide whether or not this breaches company law in New Zealand.
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And the board have delayed for two months, the AGM, where the vote to get rid of them would take place.
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They're saying that they're waiting, they're saying they're waiting for the outcome of the investigation.
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So they would win a vote at the AGM, a vote on getting rid of them.
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I think it's all over for them and they should, you know, wake up and smell the coffee.
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Does that mean that if he succeeds, that means the Herald might actually come back to, because weren't they supposed to be like a centre-right publication?
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But the insidious nature, you would have seen it in Australia, and it's worse in New Zealand, because we're a smaller market and we don't have Murdoch and we don't have you guys.
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The insidious kind of colonisation of our mainstream news media by editors and journalists who are completely politically biased, and particularly young people who've been through the edge, you know, people under 30, who just have no idea of what journalism is.
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They are there to fight the good fight for whatever cause they believe in, and our reality simply does not exist.
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The problem here starts at the university, like, I know a bunch of people that have gone through the journalism degrees, and they, you know, they would reach out to me while they're doing it.
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They're, you know, asking me for advice on, basically, they're making us write this thing, but I know if I write it the way I want to write it, I am passing.
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No, you leave and you get a job, you go and get on the road, that's what you do.
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You have to play woke to be able to pass any of those degrees, and so the universities are just pumping out these new woke journals.
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The publications are taking on the young ones because they can't afford the old school journals.
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Like, for them, it's a business, they don't even care.
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Like, that's the thing that makes me laugh when the left here go on about Murdoch's control.
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It's like, do you actually understand how the newspaper operates?
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Murdoch has very little say on what ends up in the Herald Sun.
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What you're actually seeing in most of the newspapers, all the Murdoch, almost all the Murdoch ones, not all the Murdoch, I think the Australians got a bit more of a ideological strength in not hiring just outrageous number of wokeies.
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But most state newspapers across the country, they're hiring just the newest journalists that are on the lowest rate, they're all woke, they're kicking out.
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So the only people that have any sort of conservative or share worldview with Murdoch are some of the opinion writers like Andrew Bolt and these kinds of personalities, which are halfway out.
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And so they're getting replaced by either AI or these woke journalists, which both of them, like even the AI that you're seeing, is all woke.
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Like, when I had my personal experience with that, I just couldn't believe how unaccountable they were.
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Like, they were a rule, a law to themselves, they controlled government.
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And it's easy in New Zealand, we're so small, you just need to get a few key people to bend the knee to you, and you've got control of the place.
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Now, quickly, before I let you go, I know maybe New Zealand's forgotten about her, but the rest of the world hasn't.
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Jacinta Ardern, she seems to be cracking on, copping gig after gig.
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Notice she's not coming to New Zealand, this part of the book, too.
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Well, I imagine because they couldn't guarantee her security if she did.
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Are people still that angry about Jacinta Ardern?
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What are the things that people are angry about?
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And I don't think any politician or anyone should threaten violence against anyone else.
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But a lot of the problems we're experiencing now, the problems we've just been discussing,
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Avi, have been because she launched an ideological and a woke revolution in this country that she
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She played favourites, she sandbagged the news media, she paid off the news media with tens
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And I think as a country and a culture, we are going to spend quite some time, if we ever
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Why do you think the rest of the world loves her so much?
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When I talk about the rest of the world loving her, I'm talking about the woke left.
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Oh, because the WF loves her and the UN loves her.
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She was the, she was one of the, here Macron and the guys left Blackface.
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They were like the three, they were like the three cool kids, weren't they?
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I actually do look at her as very much, and Trudeau, they like brother and sister.
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Yeah, yeah, and they were the, they were the cool kids for a long time, all around the
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In fact, he was so toxic, it was so clear he was going to lose, and they swapped him with
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Carney, who, by the way, I have met, I think he's way more dangerous.
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Um, I think he's, he's worse than Trudeau for the fact that he is so charismatic.
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Like, I met him a few times, and he, he could play, he could play the person so well.
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He was, he, he was actually like, I met him three or four years in a row, and it was like
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in those few minutes, like at first it was him running away, and him.
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Well, guess who Luxon's been talking to on the phone in the last two days?
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Oh, maybe we can form some wonderful new trade block, and I mean, that is, that is
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a dangerous thought for, for New Zealand, if you get into bed with Carney, and, and
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just, yeah, look, I don't understand what's happened to New Zealand.
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I see from, you know, from this distance, the whole pro-Palestinian movement has really
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I guess there's the whole, um, the Palestinian movement has, you know,
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kind of co-opted the Maldi thing, it feels like, and so they've, um, so, and New Zealand,
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It's almost cool to be anti-Semitic, to be a, and I don't use that word anymore.
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But you're seeing that around the world, right?
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However, let's say here in Australia, at least in the Liberal Party, at least Dutton is, takes
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a strong position on all of that to counter it.
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So I feel like in New Zealand, it's like, it's not even, it's, it's not even cool or accepted.
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The question is, how far, how much do you hate Israel?
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You know, the Greens will go full pro Hamas, but it's, it's, it's not cool to stand up or
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I think you might find that Winston could take a stand on this.
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I think to me, the whole, the, the, the, the, the war on woke, that should be a part of
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Because if you look at everyone who's woke, everyone who argues all those same points,
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they all make, they all make the same argument about Israel.
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So if you don't see the correlation there, it's just, it's, and it's worse.
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It's almost worse than all that because not, not the actual issue.
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I think it's worse than it because it's so dangerous in the fact that you see the far
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So the woke left that, that, that believe in all these crazy ideas, they found an alliance
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And they're in, and so it's, it's weird how they kind of excuse each other over this
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They look over and they, and you see that in Australia, you see that in America, you
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see that, but then you have, at least in Australia, I feel like you have strong voices like Dutton,
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whether you like anything else about him, at least on this issue, he's unwavering.
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Trump, you see these people that have, that, you know, the mugger around the world, but
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even in America, the crazy anti-Jew mugger, the fringe of the mugger that are like condemning
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Trump now for being, um, to be honest, consistent.
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Standing for democracy, freedom, unapologetically against the Jew haters.
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Of the Islamic brotherhood, which seeks to wipe a whole race of people, not just out
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of the Middle East, but off the face of the bloody earth.
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And I'm sorry, there's no, you can't argue with that.
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Douglas Murray was brilliant on Joe Rogan the other day.
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Although, like, I do love Douglas and I know him, I know him personally, but, uh, the,
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the, like, I, I love him and he's just the, I wish I could talk as eloquently or half as
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The only thing I wish on that, on that, um, podcast is that he didn't, they didn't focus
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so much on the credentials and that shit, because that's what just like, if you look
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at the internet after, so all the Dave Smith, um, you know, cult following, they, you never
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seen, they didn't post any clips of his actual substantial arguments on Israel.
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And if they did, they just cut one bit of Dave Smith having a rant, but they didn't,
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they didn't put, um, Douglas Murray's responses.
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They focused very much on the parts of Douglas Murray telling him, you know, you don't have
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Dave Smith spent an awful lot of time online since that trying to say, I won.
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Douglas, no, but, but, but I, but I think that Douglas Murray speaks to a higher IQ of person.
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And so if you can watch the nuance of the whole conversation, you go, okay, it's clear
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that Douglas Murray, um, just made the argument about the issue much stronger.
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Whereas Dave Smith relies on, oh, you can't tell me not to, and then pretends.
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So walking away from this conversation, three things, um, what are your, with, with this
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Doyle situation, what do you think is going to happen here?
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Do you think this is the end of it and the Greens are going to run?
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I can't see the Greens having him as a candidate in the next election, just how they get rid
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I think they have to, or it is guaranteed win for, for the centre-right of New Zealand
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Well, they, I noticed they weren't really there at his press conference.
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No, the people behind him was a academic researcher who believes in rebranding pedophilia as minor
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And the woman with the blue hair runs inside out, which is just had its funding cut because
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they go into schools and tell kids they're trans.
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So, so is that, am I reading too much into the fact that the Greens weren't there for his...
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Well, no, the Green Party organised the press conference.
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But the fact that neither, neither of the two co-leaders of the Greens were there, I think
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is an indication that they probably asked him to resign or go.
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And he didn't, but because they had this weird, hippy-dippy, well, kumbaya thing going, they
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They can't fire him because that'll be trans...
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So I think that will take care of itself or the Greens and the next polls will be bloody
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Can, you know, can they, or are they going to be teetering around 5%?
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I think most people reacted like you do to this news.
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And most people don't like pedophile adjacent people who promote eating feces as part of
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And I think the lesson for you here in Australia is let's find that stuff before, during the
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What their relationship with is the Greens in New Zealand?
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Ask them if they'd have Benjamin Bussey Doyle in there, candidate.
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Look, I do have like a long list of great questions for the Greens.
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And I did, sorry, a few weeks ago, the leader of the Greens party was set to, they were holding
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a launch campaign in Paran, so like very close to the Jewish community.
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So a bunch of Jews quietly organized to go and essentially gather next to their gathering with a few signs.
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So they were going to do like a silent protest right across from the Greens.
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And what do you know, they canceled their event because the optics, I guess it doesn't look that good having a minority,
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minority, standing there silently, respectfully, peacefully protesting you.
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So I didn't get the chance to ask them, so I do, I'm definitely going to add that to the list of questions and I'm sure our paths will cross in this campaign.
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So, secondly, with the New Zealand Herald and New Zealand Me, your prediction there, the outcome, what is it?
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I think Grennan and the other right-thinking shareholders win eventually, but it will be a very bitter, bitter fight.
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It will be a watershed moment in New Zealand's media landscape.
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And what was, so when it comes to Winston, so what do you think the prediction there and all these issues?
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I think Winston, I think Winston is, he had his 80th birthday last Friday.
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I think he is going to hound and destabilize Chris Lutzen for being a wokester,
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either until the coalition falls apart or the next election, Winston could out-poll the National Party.
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Oh, you give me, I need one of those predictions.
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He up-polls the National Party at the next election.
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Okay, and just before you go, Israel, I know you just came back and there's probably so much, in summary.
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There is nothing like going there, and I don't want to be saying that.
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I've been down to Sinai, to Sheikh O'Shaam, many years ago.
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I had seven, eight days on the ground there, and we covered a lot of ground, and we talked to a hell of a lot of people,
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Palestinians and Israelis and officials and people in civil society.
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If I was a reporter in Germany in 1938, I'd like to think I'd go there from a foreign country and say,
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This is about Hamas, and this is about a country traumatized by the most horrific invasion.
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I went to one of the kibbutzes that lost 100 people.
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And you don't do that and not have it profoundly change your view on the world.
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Part of that is a humanitarian bloody disaster, too.
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And I know that the Israeli people I spoke to, and I'm not going to say Jewish,
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the Israeli people I spoke to are acutely aware of the tragedy on both sides of this.
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I think not only Israel, but they have a moral.
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And I'd hate to live in a world where we see 1938, 1939, and a rise of semitism again.
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And as a journalist, I'm not going to let, not on my bloody watch, if I can help it.
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You know, at some points in that Joe Rogan episode with Dave Smith, I was like,
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thinking about some of the things that he would say.
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And at one point, Douglas Murray turns to Dave Smith and realizes that he's never actually
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And that should have been Douglas's government.
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No, but you can go and see the concentration camps, buddy.
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That's actually a different, because Dave Smith kept going, Douglas never managed, never really
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He could have also said, if this was the 1930s and I made my whole career over talking about
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Nazi Germany and there was an opportunity to go and look at it for myself, of course I
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But I felt like he should have made the point stronger as in, if this is what you're creating
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your entire persona over, then go and look at it.
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And if you still believe what you believe at the end of it, then I'd argue you're either
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The juxtaposition of the people I see on television screens and in the streets of New Zealand,
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young students, and I've had them chanting in my face, blood on your hands, river to the
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I look at those waste of frickin' space and oxygen, and I see the young people, I don't
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know, at a fast food joint in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem or up north or down south.
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And, you know, lovely girls, 19 years old with long hair, and they've got an AR-15 rifle
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And they are putting their lives on the line for their nation and their families.
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And I talk to a lot of them who feel conflicted by it, but Jesus, what admirable young people
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compared to the dropkits who put a tea towel on their head and think they're changing the
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On that note, mate, thanks so much for your time today.
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That was a great conversation, as I was expecting.
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So I'll be wanting to check in with you on how the Aussie election's going, too.
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So it's that time of the week again where we go through your comments as Rebel News Plus
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I encourage you to get involved in the conversations on my stories through the week.
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So you can go to rebelnews.com.au and check out the stories each day or via the emails and
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And I'll probably read out your comment and maybe answer it here live on the Yamini Report
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All right, so the first story that I want to touch on was this insane story where a 75-year-old
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grandma, Jewish grandmother, was violently tackled and choked by police.
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You've got to watch that video if you haven't watched it.
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She'd put her umbrella in front of her and the police took her down.
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The brave big cops took her down, you know, while ignoring every single one of those anti-Israel,
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pro-Palestinian thugs that have taken over our streets and done crimes like you saw the
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Jamie, what's wrong with these morons who call themselves police?
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Like, seriously, do they have no education, no common sense?
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They manhandle a 75-year-old woman when clearly the other protesters are the threat.
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Police are supposed to be there to handle danger, not the least dangerous.
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Many, if not all our Western countries now look like this.
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Our leaders are just throwing our countries in the trash cans.
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And it's generations after us that will have to live in these countries once these terrorists
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At least twice now, we have had a Muslim politician here in Ontario, Canada, try to bring Sharia
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Here in Australia, right now, we're in an election.
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And you have this new group called Muslim Votes, which are endorsing independent Islamist
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If they're not successful in this election, it's just for now.
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And we brought it on ourselves because we've imported this.
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We've allowed our governments to import this hatred.
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And now when they're acting up, they're doing nothing.
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And they're saying that they're targeting these people for their own safety, don't they?
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I'm sure I asked Elza, that lovely 75-year-old lady, if she feels safer now that the police
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And yes, you can watch that interview to see how much safer she feels thanks to them.
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It's a bit like COVID, when they tackled the old women, what was it, they pepper sprayed
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They were saying, for our own safety, for that old lady's safety.
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Bruce says, I wish more Gentiles would stand with these Jewish protesters.
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So if peace-loving Gentiles joined the Jews, it would give the cowardly cops pause.
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And Western governments must arrest and prosecute the leaders of this anti-Semite mob.
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That's how we can reclaim our lands from this miscredience.
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Firstly, there are a few non-Jews, a few Christians, and you can see their flags.
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I think they're Samoan Christians who go and stand with the Jews.
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The police, I think many of the cops on the beat on the front line,
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actually, probably if they had to pick a side, they would not stand with the Islamist mob.
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Although, lately, who knows, they've been infiltrated by both Islamists and far left.
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But, generally, I think most cops understand because one side actually does support law enforcement
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and is anti-terrorism, which is all part of that same thing.
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But, you know, so Jews don't like to go out and protest.
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A lot of them are scared to do it, or they're living happily in their community in Caulford,
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which is about half an hour from the city, and they don't want to waste their days protesting.
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Like, the real genuine conservatives, whether they're Christian conservatives or secular conservatives,
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And so, that's why you see the loud minority, the cooker left,
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the pink and blue-haired trans, you know, like the one we've been talking about in this whole episode.
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And now they're, on top of that, you add a big portion of the Islamic community
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that is going to stand up to rally against the Jews.
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So, you've got this unholy alliance, which gives them the numbers,
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which I just don't think you're going to match on the other side.
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Because the alliance between the conservative and the Jews is from two groups that don't protest.
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Like, Elza was saying herself, in her entire 75 years, she's never really protested.
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and I don't want to see this country that I love so much, Australia,
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I don't want to see it go to shit, and I'm going to stand up.
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And how do we reclaim it is by forcing, I think, the police to actually do their jobs.
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And even when there are small numbers of brave Jews or Christians,
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the police need to do their freaking jobs and protect them,
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uphold their right to counter-protest this mob.
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If the public get angry enough, even from home,
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the West needs to reclaim their cities from this ruination.
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I think that just confirms what we just said a moment ago.
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I think Toronto and Melbourne probably have this upcoming elections for both of us
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is going to be the answer between whether it's possible or not.
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so if Carney wins in Canada and Labour or Labour Greens wins in Australia,
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so I'm not going to have a strong stance on that one,
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they're also attacking essentially all immigrants,
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and things that we should definitely not forget.