Tommy Robinson remains in solitary confinement for releasing his banned documentary, Silence, as the system ramps up efforts to suppress his voice. Yet, beyond the prison walls, a groundswell of support is building. Tonight, we speak to one of the key figures spearheading the campaign to secure his freedom.
00:08:51.520So you'll remember the period where he had like Facebook, where he would go on, he would go live on Facebook and there'd be, he'd be walking down the street and just go live like five times a fricking day.
00:09:04.660And, and then, and 30, 40, 50,000 people would just watch him live because the way he communicated was so real, so raw.
00:09:14.460And the bonus was often shit just happened with this guy just walking down the street.
00:09:20.800Like he was the most entertaining person.
00:09:22.920And so this was in that period, it was at the end, like right before they banned him off Facebook.
00:09:28.560So it, it probably, it must've been 2017, 2018.
00:09:32.680It was right before they, they kicked him off.
00:09:34.240And I remember security dragged us out and, and basically left those three guys upstairs.
00:09:41.120And he goes, listen, lads, you didn't see what happened.
00:09:44.120Go into the, go look at the security cameras, look at exactly what happened.
00:09:48.280I did not start these, these lads put it on me.
00:09:53.620He goes, if you don't, he goes, I don't care if they stay, you can let them stay.
00:09:58.320But if you, if you kick us out for them trying to start a fight with me, I'm going to have 10,000 people out here at a protest tomorrow.
00:10:06.680You know, we're on the piss a bit, but, but they knew he wasn't joking.
00:10:11.820And they went and checked, they went and checked the security cameras and they go, boys, boys, come come.
00:10:16.080And they let us back in and, and I think they, I think they kicked the other guys out at the end, but I don't know why I got into that story.
00:10:46.360And he's, and he also comes from a certain culture that even I don't like particularly get, you know, the whole football hooligan culture is a bit wild when you think of it.
00:10:55.220And like when I first got there and he was explaining to me about how it works, you know, he goes, dude, that, that, he goes, I love that stuff.
00:11:01.380You know, going to the, going to the games, it was hooligans.
00:11:05.100It was basically organized fights between consenting adults.
00:11:09.540He goes, what's the difference between that and, and, and a boxing match.
00:11:13.340He goes, if one lad would hit somebody that's not part of the firms, both firms, his own firm would turn on him.
00:11:24.260It's like, it's, it is, it's a culture.
00:11:25.820Now I don't get it because I do everything in my life to avoid getting punched in the face, but that's, that's not, but that is what built the guy.
00:11:34.320That's what created a man that walks around fearless.
00:11:37.740And he is genuinely like, as far as fearless you can go, Tommy Robertson is that.
00:11:45.500And I know that because like, I, I know just the amount of hate that I get.
00:12:07.840Most people would quit at the first sign of, of, of, you know, trouble where, where you're, you're threatened or you're anything like, but he, he's been, he's been hit.
00:12:33.240That he has with, with people individually in that fighting spirit.
00:12:37.880That's what takes Tommy through his activism and the way he's willing to fight the government and risk his freedom and safety and security and, and, and everything.
00:12:45.700You know, that's who Tommy Robinson is down to his core.
00:12:48.320And the fact, the fact that he never, um, and, and this is a, an important one these days, because I think since in the last year and a half, whatever it is, we've seen a lot of people, uh, captured by their audience.
00:13:03.300A lot of people, especially on the right people that I used to follow, just suddenly there was this shift and they're all following their audience instead of leading.
00:13:12.420And Tommy is one of those guys that never falls for that.
00:13:25.980In fact, it's crazy that they ever called him a Nazi or whatever, because he's like one of the only guys.
00:13:32.500In fact, he's probably the only guy in the world that I know that got done for actually punching a Nazi that refused to leave his protest.
00:13:40.980It's like, you're talking about, and, and, and then the media uses that exact story against him to say that he's a, you know, like he's a violent, he attacked a protester.
00:13:54.140You mean he punched a Nazi that refused to leave his protest.
00:13:57.740Now, you may not agree with, with dealing with matters in matters like that, but you're the media that you call him a Nazi all day, but you leave out the fact that he's actually the one that hates Nazis.
00:14:11.900And when so many, um, you know, so many, so much of his fan base, like there would, there would be a, it would be a lot easier for Tommy Robinson.
00:14:22.340I often ask him this, it would be a lot easier for Tommy Robinson in 2024, you know, before he got locked up to have turned against Jews, to turned against Israel turn.
00:14:48.840Um, but, but the, the thing is, it would have been so much easier for him because it's not like the Jewish establishment, the, the Jewish community establishment, they haven't been good to him.
00:15:12.140Uh, he, that, that, that kind of blew up for him as well.
00:15:15.220Um, and his own base, so many in his own base that follow other people and kind of got caught in that rabbit hole, uh, you know, after October 7th.
00:15:25.840Uh, he could have done what everyone else did, which is easier.
00:15:29.780And we, we've seen some of the big names in America do it.
00:15:33.280Um, and, and they flip flop on issues.
00:15:35.340Like, somebody like Alex Jones, I think flip flops on those issues really based on what the viewer, what he knows his fan base wants.
00:16:04.120And he's explained it to me, not in these words.
00:16:06.360He goes, you can get short term, uh, success by turning against the Jews.
00:16:10.040But the fact is, if you look at those that are doing that, you look at someone like Candace Owens that has started doing that, suddenly she's excusing all the Islamists.
00:16:20.160She actually blames the Jews for the hate against the Muslims and pretending like there's nothing actually, you know, systemically wrong with the ideology.
00:16:29.100Um, what is it, what is it that first attracted you to, to following Tommy?
00:16:42.160We talked about that, but, uh, seeing him on the, on the streets when he was by himself, maybe there were one or two guys with him or something.
00:16:48.240But these Muslim guys would come up to him in the street and he would just talk smack to them and didn't care.
00:17:05.040But, you know, I tell people ask me that question a lot.
00:17:07.540How did you, an American, a country boy from South Georgia, get hooked up with this guy from Britain?
00:17:12.780And, uh, you know, it's just something about him that I've always liked.
00:17:16.440And I kind of, in Australia, you guys have like a Ned Kelly or I think Edward Dunlop, one of your big, big heroes there.
00:17:24.060If you could, if somebody brought you a time machine and said, Hey, you, you can take this time machine, but you can only go back and see Ned Kelly or Edward Dunlop.
00:17:31.180Would you, you'd like to go do that, hang out with him, right?
00:17:33.740But we don't really have the option of going back and hanging out with the heroes.
00:17:36.860You know, we'd love to hang out with and just see what it was like.
00:17:39.220But, you know, I tell people Tommy's alive today and I see him as that type of folk hero.
00:17:43.500And I think in the future, history is going to remember him that way.
00:17:46.820And so if I have a chance to hang out with somebody like that, like Tommy, who has that passion, then I'm going to do it.
00:17:54.380And, you know, because he instills, he inspires me to be passionate that way.
00:17:58.860He inspires me to be passionate for his country.
00:23:55.480He literally put him up in a house with his family because the government wouldn't protect the family.
00:24:00.600So this kid, they destroyed his life because they made it like he was this big evil bully picking on this Syrian refugee, and they...
00:24:11.800Well, Piers Morgan said he deserves severe retribution, and it was after, sometime after that, and Bailey tried to commit suicide.
00:24:19.600That was another reason Tommy took him in, was kind of take him under his wing and help him because he was having so many problems at school.
00:24:23.980But, of course, the media took that story and ran with it, and, I mean, people, like, at such a high level of media, as Piers Morgan, a grown man, think about being a man in your 50s, saying that a 15-year-old boy on national television should suffer severe retribution.
00:24:40.460I think we've come to learn that Piers Morgan will say anything for clicks.
00:24:44.100Anything for clicks, but it's really despicable.
00:24:46.380So, basically, the reason Tommy's in there is because the whole thing went to court, because Tommy did an investigation where everybody was castigating young Bailey and blaming him for what happened.
00:24:57.700They said he waterboarded the refugee.
00:25:01.880Well, it turns out, after Tommy's investigation, the Syrian refugee had threatened to rape Bailey's young sisters earlier.
00:25:09.460So, Bailey was taking up for his sisters and giving them a little bit of what for, you know, saying,
00:25:14.060Don't talk about my sister. Don't say that to my sister. You're not going to say that.
00:25:16.980So, he's just defending it. It wasn't waterboarding him at all.
00:25:21.360And then more of the investigation revealed that the, I believe it was the Kirkley's Council paid $250,000 to the staff of that school there to keep them from talking about anything.
00:25:37.120They made them all sign NDAs. They could not discuss anything they knew about this Syrian refugee, who, it turns out, had several instances at the school where they had been found with a knife.
00:25:47.340He had stabbed a boy with a protractor or a compass, I think they called it, at school.
00:25:51.920He had been in detention. He would call grown women bitches at school.
00:25:54.820So, this kid, this Syrian refugee that had threatened to rape Bailey's sister, had all of these altercations at school that the media never reported.
00:26:04.020The media never, Pierce Morgan didn't send anybody out to investigate that.
00:26:07.840They just went with the headline because it suits their narrative that all the refugees are good and, you know, white man bad narrative.
00:26:14.920That's what the media wanted to portray.
00:26:16.640Well, it turns out, it was actually the refugee who was not, who was, who had really provoked Bailey by threatening his sisters.
00:26:23.940And all of these goings on, but the media chose to bully young Bailey.
00:26:27.360And so, after all that was discovered, the case goes to court.
00:26:33.100And after the trial, or during the trial, towards the end of the trial, you know, after Tommy brings in five witnesses who all attested to what I just told you about this Syrian refugee.
00:26:44.460The young Syrian refugee had nobody as witnesses, right?
00:26:49.100The judge in the case said that all five witnesses were lying, and the only one telling the truth was a Syrian refugee.
00:26:55.380And so, he awarded Tommy, because it was a civil suit against Tommy, because of Tommy's reporting.
00:27:01.180They awarded whatever the month, I believe it was 100,000 pounds is what the kid was awarded in damages.
00:27:08.020And they said Tommy cannot play his film silence.
00:27:10.320And I think there was also, I think it might have been 100,000, but then it was also the costs were like way over that.
00:28:27.500The idea that so many of these commentators, like Piers Morgan, who refuse to say that it's a political persecution, that, you know, they sit on the technicalities of it.
00:29:38.540Why would the Kirkley's council pay $250,000 for all the staff to sign NDAs and not talk about what they knew about this boy if they were all telling the truth?
00:29:48.080To me, that's kind of the nail in the coffin.
00:29:49.500If you're paying people to be quiet, then you're guilty.
00:29:54.060Yeah, you're paying to be quiet and it's insane to me that the mainstream media, the two reasons why they went so hard in order to protect the boy and ignore any evidence saying anything else.
00:30:12.700So the evidence being footage of people that were there, people that know the boy, people that witnessed what the boy did.
00:30:20.480People not on the stand, people in their natural place telling you actually like it's pretty crazy what really happened.
00:30:27.040And the reason why they didn't stand up for Bailey and they stood up for the refugees, firstly, the identity politics of it.
00:30:34.900The Syrian refugee is always going to be innocent.
00:30:38.640The white British, I don't know, they don't call them colonizers there, do they?
00:30:44.680Because it's the only place they didn't colonize.
00:31:23.580He was in shock by what had happened, as in how he was being portrayed as the big evil bully,
00:31:32.480when really he had come to the defense of not only his family, but also there was a long history in the school that he was saying that of this one Syrian kid.
00:31:46.140So Tommy got 18 months and he has to serve nine.
00:50:20.840And Elon doubled down and Elon made some fantastic points besides the fact that it is a political – it was political persecution and they were clearly going for him.
00:50:31.180And that in what world is contempt of court justification for locking somebody up in isolation for, you know, nine months?
00:50:43.300We saw what isolation did to Tommy Larson.
00:50:45.000But in what world does that make any sense for a video, for posting a video that people can make up their own minds about with evidence that the court just didn't want to get out?
00:50:55.740It's an insane story, the whole thing.
00:50:59.780And you saw the – I don't know if you saw this most recent report from Tommy's team where the clinical psychologist did an evaluation of Tommy.
00:52:41.560But she has to sign off or somebody from her department has to sign off on that so that they can keep extending him into this solitary confinement.
00:52:48.800Ever so many, how often it is they have to sign off of because they're breaking so many – it's a violation of his human rights, first off.
00:53:01.680But yet, apparently, human rights don't apply to Tommy Robinson.
00:53:04.540They continue to violate his human rights.
00:53:06.560So – and there's been so many, you know, psychologists and psychiatrists who've done these different investigations and evaluations and assessments of what solitary confinement does to a human being.
00:53:19.000And all of what this clinical psychologist has diagnosed with is evidence of that in Tommy.
00:53:25.940And they continue to torture this man.
00:53:27.580And they're not only torturing him with the solitary confinement, but they're just – they're twisting the knife, you know, by taking visitations away from his friends, the phone from his son.
00:53:42.180I know his ex-wife, they took some of her privileges for a while, too, other friends.
00:53:46.760So they're just doing whatever they can to torture the guy.
00:53:50.040And, you know, and now they've got him coming up on these terrorism charges this month.
00:53:54.380As a matter of fact, he has the answer for those under this ridiculous terrorism act, which is a lot like our Patriot Act that was supposed to be to protect us from terrorism.
00:54:04.560But they actually used it to go against the citizens.
00:54:06.740I'm sure you guys have something similar.
00:54:08.580They all came about around the time of 9-11.
00:54:11.200I actually think the U.K. came out before 9-11 and that whole terrorism thing.
00:54:15.740I mean, they know Tommy's not a terrorist, but because of this terrorism act, if you come in in any port of entry, whether it be trains, planes, tunnels, anywhere across the border, ports of entry, they can stop you.
00:54:29.040And in this terrorism act, it says, I can stop you and ask you for your phone.
00:54:34.240It doesn't matter if you're a journalist.
00:54:40.440So what we have here is two conflicting laws.
00:54:42.540And I guess what we have to ask is which one of these are going to play out.
00:54:45.860Because with this terrorism act, they can say, you have to give me your phone and you have to give me the passcode to that phone.
00:54:51.840And if you don't, we can charge you under the terrorism act.
00:54:54.580And so what did Tommy do, being the type of person that he is, with the sources he has on his phone, you think about who his sources may be and all the young girls who are victims of Muslims, Muslims heavily inundated in the justice system in the U.K.
00:55:12.160He gives up these girls' sources, their locations, their phone numbers.
00:55:15.200And so all these people have access to them to get retribution for these young girls that have turned in all these people who have, you know, these rape gang, heads of these rape gangs and people in these rape gangs who committed these atrocities against them.
00:55:28.460If Tommy gives over his phone to these authorities, he's risking these girls' lives.
00:55:33.140And that's what these people asked him to do.