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Bill Gates gets divorced. Is he really who he told us he was？


Summary

Bill Gates is getting divorced, but is he really who he told us he was? Ezra LeVant explains why, and why he thinks there are deep problems with Bill Gates, and goes through some of them on today's show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, Bill Gates is getting divorced. Good news, ladies. He's on the market
00:00:04.440 again. But actually, I think we know very little about Bill Gates. And what we do know is
00:00:11.480 probably not true. I think his sort of all shucks look is a clever cultivation, like Warren Buffett,
00:00:19.320 to make you think he's not the one to worry about. Worry about that flashy Jeff Bezos or worry about
00:00:24.800 someone else. Now, I think there's deep problems with Bill Gates, and I'll go through some of them
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00:00:59.260 Tonight, Bill Gates gets divorced. But is he really who he told us he was?
00:01:18.020 It's May 4th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:22.980 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:26.540 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:30.620 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:36.460 Bill Gates is getting divorced. He was once the world's richest man, and he's still up there, top five kind of thing.
00:01:48.020 I've seen estimates that he's worth $130 billion U.S. dollars, which is pretty close to $200 billion Canadian.
00:01:55.540 Hard to even imagine that. He follows in the footsteps of the world's richest man, also a tech guy, Jeff Bezos of Amazon,
00:02:04.000 who recently announced his divorce for cheating on his wife.
00:02:08.080 I'm so glad she took half his money.
00:02:10.480 But then again, he's worth $200 billion U.S., which is, I don't know, a quarter of a trillion dollars Canadian,
00:02:16.900 or as Justin Trudeau would call it, the cost of his promises in the upcoming election.
00:02:21.600 But I understand the Bezos divorce. He was cheating, and it was revealed in a humiliating way, believe it or not,
00:02:29.020 by the brother of Bezos' mistress.
00:02:32.900 Who knows why Bill Gates is breaking up? He's 65 years old. He's been married for 27 years. He has three kids.
00:02:40.380 Normally, I'd say these questions are none of my business. It's private. People's lives are private.
00:02:47.260 Just because he's rich doesn't mean I have an interest in his private life.
00:02:50.320 But Bill Gates published a statement about it. Let me read that to you.
00:02:56.140 After a great deal of thought and a lot of work on our relationship,
00:02:59.700 we have made the decision to end our marriage.
00:03:01.660 Over the last 27 years, we have raised three incredible children
00:03:04.040 and built a foundation that works all over the world to enable all people to lead healthy, productive lives.
00:03:09.220 We continue to share a belief in that mission, and we'll continue our work together at the foundation,
00:03:14.060 but we no longer believe we can grow together as a couple in this next phase of our lives.
00:03:19.820 We ask for space and privacy for our family as we begin to navigate this new life.
00:03:25.740 Fair enough.
00:03:26.960 Except that I think that some facts about Bill Gates are actually in the public interest
00:03:31.780 because he is a public person who seeks to have great authority over our lives,
00:03:36.900 especially in the time of the pandemic, he wants to rule us in a way,
00:03:42.200 even though he's never put himself to the democratic test of an election.
00:03:45.900 He's not a doctor either.
00:03:47.520 He has no medical degree or public health degree,
00:03:49.900 but because of his staggering wealth, he can buy a form of credential.
00:03:55.140 He can buy attention and influence and media coverage,
00:03:57.880 and it is clear that like other staggeringly wealthy men,
00:04:01.640 he starts to think of himself as godlike,
00:04:05.080 and that his true mission, now that he's made more money than can ever be spent,
00:04:09.020 is to tell other people how to live in his image.
00:04:13.260 I don't know.
00:04:13.900 We might all have that instinct.
00:04:15.180 I suppose I like to tell people how I think the world should be arranged every day on this show,
00:04:19.560 but you can ignore me if you like.
00:04:21.540 I have no real power, maybe just some influence a little bit.
00:04:24.200 But Bill Gates uses his money and power to influence decision makers
00:04:28.760 and to push his solutions on people, and it's working.
00:04:32.700 I find it a bit creepy and a bit cavalier.
00:04:35.880 I mean, just listen to this.
00:04:36.980 Just think of this.
00:04:38.460 Here, we clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range
00:04:43.780 because they're most at risk of that.
00:04:47.100 And doing that so that you amp it up so it works in older people,
00:04:50.980 and yet you don't have side effects.
00:04:54.180 If we have 1 in 10,000 side effects, that's way more, 700,000 people who will suffer from that.
00:05:05.580 So really understanding the safety at gigantic scale across all age ranges,
00:05:12.040 pregnant, male, female, undernourished, existing comorbidities,
00:05:17.860 it's very, very hard.
00:05:19.560 And that actual decision of, okay, let's go and give this vaccine to the entire world,
00:05:25.160 governments will have to be involved because there will be some risk and indemnification needed
00:05:31.320 before that can be decided on.
00:05:34.560 Oh, yeah.
00:05:35.440 You know, just I want to use the world as a giant experiment.
00:05:40.200 And, you know, 700,000 people get in trouble just indemnify the global plan.
00:05:46.500 And I don't know, I thought that was creepy.
00:05:48.400 But it's actually the least creepy thing about them.
00:05:51.900 Like this.
00:05:53.900 I drank water made from human feces.
00:05:57.220 Here's an update on the machine that produced that water.
00:05:59.760 Oh, my God.
00:06:01.140 That's a real tweet.
00:06:03.120 Yeah, no thanks, mate.
00:06:04.100 I think I'll skip that one.
00:06:05.840 He wants us all to drink poop water and eat synthetic beef.
00:06:09.260 What?
00:06:09.960 You think he does?
00:06:10.740 He also just wrote a book or had someone write a book for him about global warming
00:06:15.880 and how he's totally against global warming and how he thinks we should radically change our lives.
00:06:22.400 And this is his house.
00:06:24.600 One of the largest in the world.
00:06:26.500 And literally at the same time as he was launching his book, he just bought into a private jet company.
00:06:37.260 So that's how much he cares about global warming.
00:06:39.840 But nothing beats this.
00:06:43.100 A Bill Gates venture aims to spray dust into the atmosphere to block the sun.
00:06:49.540 What could go wrong?
00:06:51.020 Let me read the first sentence.
00:06:52.520 Microsoft's billionaire founder, Bill Gates, is financially backing the development of sun-dimming technology
00:06:59.180 that would potentially reflect sunlight out of Earth's atmosphere, triggering a global cooling effect.
00:07:04.300 All right.
00:07:04.920 Yeah, there's no risk there.
00:07:06.160 That couldn't go wrong in any way, could it?
00:07:08.860 So you want to block out the sun.
00:07:11.440 Now, no one ever elected you to anything.
00:07:13.420 You're a computer nerd.
00:07:15.780 This is you and your mates at Microsoft and your element.
00:07:20.480 Just let that video roll for a bit.
00:07:24.120 This is you and your team.
00:07:25.860 Now, I'm glad you invented Microsoft and that you helped computerize the world.
00:07:30.500 I think that's a good thing.
00:07:31.760 It's great.
00:07:32.880 But now you want to tell us how to live and how to die and you want to black out the sun
00:07:37.220 and you want us to drink poop water.
00:07:39.460 And because you have $140 billion or $130 billion, people listen to you about things like blacking out the sun.
00:07:48.220 Don't block out the sun.
00:07:50.100 That's not yours.
00:07:53.420 So, yeah, he's an acute interest in my life and telling me how to live and blocking out the sun for me, too.
00:07:58.900 Not just for him.
00:07:59.900 He should just put on some sunscreen if he hates the sun so much.
00:08:03.200 Don't wreck it for the rest of us, you laughingstock bond villain.
00:08:07.180 I think he cultivates that nerdy thing.
00:08:10.000 I think he's actually the cleverest bond villain who appears to be a nerd to hide his true nature.
00:08:17.160 I digress.
00:08:18.120 I don't think any of the above is why he's divorcing his wife.
00:08:21.440 She seems to agree with him on his big ideas and it sounds like they're still going to manage his lobby groups together.
00:08:27.660 I don't think she suddenly got bored of his money or his kooky schemes if she's sticking around for that part.
00:08:35.680 Maybe it was, as he phrased it, how to grow together as a couple in this next phase of our lives.
00:08:40.480 What does that mean?
00:08:41.980 It sounds personal.
00:08:43.000 It sounds cryptic.
00:08:44.480 I don't know.
00:08:44.840 Maybe it's this.
00:08:45.540 How Bill Gates spent long weekends at the beach alone with his venture capitalist ex-girlfriend Anne Winblad every year
00:08:55.300 and even sought her approval to marry Melinda in a bizarre decades-long arrangement with his wife.
00:09:03.620 What?
00:09:04.200 I thought that was weird.
00:09:06.140 Would your wife approve of you having a long weekend beach getaway with your former lover every year?
00:09:16.060 This actually was not a secret.
00:09:17.780 The Daily Mail, as you can see, really went to town on it.
00:09:20.360 But Time Magazine sort of blurted this out in their fawning story about Bill Gates back in 1997.
00:09:27.260 That's almost 25 years ago.
00:09:29.020 Really, he was newly married to Melinda.
00:09:31.920 But let me read the biography of Bill Gates.
00:09:34.880 Yeah, they mentioned Melinda, but boy, they sure talked about Bill Gates' ex-girlfriend.
00:09:38.480 Let me read this.
00:09:40.800 Another of Gates' vacation companions is Anne Winblad, the software entrepreneur and venture capitalist he dated during the 1980s.
00:09:49.660 They met in 1984 at a Ben Rose and Esther Dyson computer conference and started going on virtual dates
00:09:55.360 by driving to the same movie at the same time in different cities and discussing it on their cell phones.
00:10:00.960 For a few years, she even persuaded him to stop eating meat, an experiment he has since resolutely abandoned.
00:10:08.460 Oh, because he's telling us to abandon.
00:10:10.820 They were kindred minds as well as spirits.
00:10:14.400 On a vacation to Brazil, I won't continue reading that.
00:10:17.240 Seriously, it's a biography on Bill Gates who was just married for a couple years now.
00:10:23.900 But it goes on and on and on about all the wonderful things Bill Gates was doing with his ex-girlfriend.
00:10:32.580 Gates was married to his wife Melinda by now, but that's all in his authorized interview after they're married.
00:10:37.920 In Time magazine, I think you can read a little more.
00:10:39.760 Even now, Gates has an arrangement with his wife that he and Winblad can keep one vacation tradition alive.
00:10:48.680 Every spring, as they have for more than a decade, Gates spends a long weekend with Winblad at her beach cottage on the outer banks of North Carolina
00:10:56.660 where they ride dune buggies, hang glide, and walk on the beach.
00:11:02.100 We can play putt-putt while discussing biotechnology, Gates says.
00:11:06.520 As Winblad puts it more grandly, we share our thoughts about the world and ourselves, she says.
00:11:13.000 And we marvel about how, as two young overachievers, we began a great adventure on the fringes of a little-known industry
00:11:18.820 that landed us in the center of an amazing universe.
00:11:22.460 Ah.
00:11:24.160 Yeah.
00:11:25.420 Yeah.
00:11:26.720 Okay.
00:11:28.780 Let me tell you that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are good friends.
00:11:33.200 You probably know that.
00:11:34.100 They've been friends, allies, business partners for decades.
00:11:39.400 Warren Buffett gets a lot of ink in that old-time magazine biography.
00:11:43.380 You know he's so homespun, isn't he, Warren Buffett?
00:11:46.320 He looks regular.
00:11:48.080 He lives in Omaha, Nebraska.
00:11:50.160 He drives a regular car.
00:11:52.800 But, you know, he has two wives also.
00:11:55.620 Did you know that about Warren Buffett?
00:11:57.080 Let me read this.
00:11:57.840 Warren Buffett's unconventional, open marriage, which allowed him to live with one woman while staying married to another.
00:12:05.000 That's not a gossip tabloid story.
00:12:06.920 It's just a fact.
00:12:08.360 Let me read.
00:12:10.120 Warren Buffett started dating his second wife, Astrid Manx, while he was still married to his first wife, and neither of them minded.
00:12:16.560 The Oracle of Omaha spent years in an unconventional marriage until his first wife, Susan, died in 2004.
00:12:23.960 Family members said the unusual arrangement worked for all those involved.
00:12:28.040 The trio would even send out Christmas cards together, signed Warren, Susan, and Astrid.
00:12:34.420 You know, Ted Turner's the same way, too.
00:12:36.360 He has different wives all the time.
00:12:38.360 You know, the rich, they're different from us.
00:12:44.180 They have money.
00:12:46.180 But when you're that rich, I mean, Ted Turner rich, Warren Buffett rich, Bill Gates rich, Jeff Bezos rich, you don't just have money.
00:12:54.240 You have total power over everything and everyone around you.
00:12:58.600 No one can say no to you.
00:12:59.980 No one dares to say no to you.
00:13:01.380 No one would ever criticize you.
00:13:02.720 You could truly start to believe that you are a god because every problem falls away.
00:13:08.420 People just do what they think you want them to do without even asking.
00:13:13.380 Unless these ultra-billionaires are, I suppose, religious, unless they voluntarily submit themselves to a higher power,
00:13:22.340 they are the higher power wherever they go.
00:13:25.320 They are treated like gods.
00:13:27.260 And they start to act a little bit like gods, especially the Greek gods.
00:13:33.520 To whom women and men were just things, chattels, toys, playthings, whatever.
00:13:39.740 I mean, imagine wanting to blot out the sun.
00:13:45.640 Back to Bill Gates.
00:13:47.040 What was he doing hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, the pedophile extortionist?
00:13:53.980 Why did Bill Gates keep hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, even after Epstein was revealed to be a child sex predator?
00:14:04.160 What was it that kept Bill Gates coming back?
00:14:08.820 Hmm.
00:14:09.020 Are all these things a coincidence?
00:14:13.080 Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Jeffrey Epstein, that all these people know each other, these globalist billionaires.
00:14:21.140 Who knew about this stuff?
00:14:23.460 Well, this one reporter knew about Epstein.
00:14:25.260 And as she said on a hot mic moment when she thought the cameras weren't rolling, she wasn't allowed to talk about it.
00:14:31.880 I've had the story for three years.
00:14:33.360 I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts.
00:14:35.260 We would not put it on the air.
00:14:37.240 First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein?
00:14:39.080 No one knows who that is.
00:14:40.060 This is a stupid story.
00:14:41.080 Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways.
00:14:50.800 We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will that that also quashed the story.
00:14:58.060 And then Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in it because of the planes.
00:15:02.660 She told me everything.
00:15:04.240 She had pictures.
00:15:05.240 She had everything.
00:15:06.120 She was in hiding for 12 years.
00:15:07.360 We convinced her to come out.
00:15:08.660 We convinced her to talk to us.
00:15:09.940 It was unbelievable what we had.
00:15:12.700 Clinton.
00:15:13.440 We had everything.
00:15:16.260 I tried for three years to get it on to no avail.
00:15:19.640 And now it's all coming out.
00:15:21.000 And it's like these new revelations.
00:15:23.000 And I freaking had all of it.
00:15:25.020 I was so pissed right now.
00:15:27.320 Like every day I get more and more pissed because I'm just like, oh, my God.
00:15:31.380 We it was what we had was unreal.
00:15:34.760 Yeah.
00:15:35.060 You know, there are conspiracy theories out there, especially on the Internet.
00:15:38.300 I see them every day.
00:15:39.180 And I keep saying to our people here, don't be a conspiracy theorist.
00:15:42.860 No need to speculate on how bad the world is.
00:15:45.720 No need to make things up.
00:15:47.440 What we know and can see and can prove is bad enough.
00:15:51.320 Don't go looking to gin up controversies.
00:15:53.580 What people are really doing is news enough.
00:15:56.300 How about let's cover that first?
00:15:58.960 But the thing is, so many conspiracy theories about billionaire pedophiles and bigamists and cover-ups,
00:16:06.740 just the kooky far-out stuff.
00:16:08.840 Well, didn't Epstein prove half of it true?
00:16:13.800 And the allegations of children in Hollywood being devoured by millionaire or billionaire pedophiles.
00:16:21.220 Here's a terrifying picture of a young child actress named Emma Watson.
00:16:25.220 And she was actually in those Harry Potter movies.
00:16:28.500 Being gripped and held and dominated by Harvey Weinstein in public.
00:16:34.260 Look at that look on her face.
00:16:35.440 He's the great filmmaker, the great Democrat Party fundraiser, the great male feminist.
00:16:41.760 Didn't they all know?
00:16:43.440 Of course they all knew.
00:16:44.660 I think Tom Cruise tried to talk about it a bit in a movie he made called Eyes Wide Shut.
00:16:51.080 Here's another Hollywood type, Courtney Love, a musician and widow of the musician Kurt Cobain from Nirvana.
00:16:58.720 Here she is talking about it years and years ago.
00:17:01.900 Look at this clip.
00:17:03.080 Hi, Comic Central.
00:17:04.140 Do you have any advice for a young girl moving to Hollywood?
00:17:08.580 Um, I'll get live with that.
00:17:12.200 Harvey Weinstein invites you to a Friday party.
00:17:14.140 Oh, they all knew.
00:17:16.600 It wasn't a conspiracy theory.
00:17:17.960 It was just a conspiracy.
00:17:21.320 What does any of this mean?
00:17:22.820 What does it have to do with Bill Gates?
00:17:24.240 I'm not sure.
00:17:25.340 I don't really understand it all.
00:17:26.800 Remember when Alex Jones, the Texas journalist, got his big scoop 20 years ago?
00:17:32.740 He sneaked in to a private conclave in California, like a summer camp for billionaire insiders, politicians, tycoons, called Bohemian Grove.
00:17:43.780 Have you heard of that?
00:17:45.120 He sneaked into this elite getaway with a camera and he filmed this bizarre ritual.
00:17:54.240 With a ripple of water, song of birds, such music as inspires the sinking soul, do we invite you in a midsummer's joy.
00:18:07.120 Sky above his knees, the soul of the stars.
00:18:10.780 Sky above his knees, the forest floor is deep with a fragrant grin.
00:18:17.620 The evening's cool kiss is yours.
00:18:21.120 The campfire is blown.
00:18:23.440 The earth of Ossie King is gone.
00:18:25.280 Shake off your sorrows with the city's dust and cast the winds and the cares of life.
00:18:33.800 What's that all about?
00:18:35.820 I don't know.
00:18:37.960 I think it's sort of a camp for billionaires who think they're gods or want to be gods, go to meet each other.
00:18:46.100 It's a real Republican Party hangout, or at least it used to be.
00:18:48.780 I think Stephen Harper went one year.
00:18:51.780 I think people who think they are gods are dangerous because really they worship themselves.
00:18:57.200 They think they're above us and above the law, above the rules, above morality.
00:19:02.060 And in many meaningful ways, they sort of are.
00:19:04.960 How did Jeffrey Epstein walk free for so long?
00:19:07.460 How did Harvey Weinstein go free for so long?
00:19:10.380 What did Bill Gates do so many times with Epstein?
00:19:14.220 How could these people be reined in?
00:19:17.040 Would you want to be a beat cop investigating them?
00:19:20.680 You're investigating a billionaire.
00:19:23.000 How long until you were reassigned, disciplined, fired, transferred, told by the chief to, you know, do something else with your time?
00:19:32.720 Bill Gates is getting divorced.
00:19:33.800 Sorry for the kids, but they're actually adults now.
00:19:36.380 But it's just a reminder.
00:19:37.460 We know nothing about these demigods that's actually true about them.
00:19:41.840 Nothing that they don't want us to know about them.
00:19:45.300 And even that small glimpse is troubling enough.
00:19:49.280 Stay with us for a moment.
00:20:01.540 Well, you'll remember Pastor James Coates.
00:20:03.880 He was the pastor of the Grace Life Church in Parkland County, just outside of Edmonton.
00:20:08.780 And he would not bend the knee to the government of Alberta that restricted his ability to have a church in real life as opposed to people watching via Zoom.
00:20:19.840 So week after week, the police came to the church, but alas, he would not allow them in.
00:20:23.860 So one morning before the church was even open, the police came by the dozen, erected a fence around the property and have occupied it around the clock 24-7 ever since, turning it into an armed military garrison, paramilitary, heavily armed RCMP.
00:20:41.420 They've set up their latrines in their perimeter.
00:20:43.420 It's like a little army base in Afghanistan, expropriating the church and not giving it back.
00:20:49.660 Well, while the church is expropriated by the government, something that I must say is more affiliated in my mind with communist China or the Ayatollahs of Iran,
00:21:00.020 the pastor himself is back on trial for refusing to bend the knee.
00:21:04.960 I say he should simply just call his church a Costco or a Walmart or a liquor store, and then it would be open.
00:21:12.340 Joining us now is Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter who has been following the trial of James Coates.
00:21:19.740 And she's on a very quick break right now from the trial.
00:21:22.360 Sheila, thanks for joining us.
00:21:24.840 Hey, Ezra.
00:21:25.320 Thanks for having me on the show.
00:21:26.580 Well, of course.
00:21:27.180 So you're participating in this trial, but it's not a normal trial.
00:21:31.540 For example, trials are conducted by Zoom or a version of Zoom all the time.
00:21:36.180 But this, weirdly, you can only participate or watch it by telephone, and they're keeping the identity of the prosecutor secret.
00:21:46.580 I think that's why they're only allowing people to listen instead of to watch.
00:21:50.280 That's so bizarre.
00:21:51.900 I've never heard of that before.
00:21:53.180 Can you confirm for me that they're keeping the identity of the prosecutor a secret?
00:21:57.900 Is that true?
00:21:59.380 They are.
00:22:00.500 It's my understanding that it is the same prosecutor that kept her identity secret during the bail appeal hearings.
00:22:08.140 What's her name again?
00:22:09.740 Karen Thorsrud.
00:22:11.120 Karen Thorsrud.
00:22:11.660 And back then, she argued that Pastor James was such a threat to the community at large that he should face bail conditions that violated his charter rights, as in his freedom of religion.
00:22:27.540 Those were her bail conditions.
00:22:29.320 In the meantime, the very same facility that housed Pastor Coates, the Maximum Security Edmonton Remand Centre, it's never been easier to get bail there if you are willing to just stand up and lie to a judge and say you're going to be a good guy.
00:22:44.540 They released hundreds of prisoners from that same facility under Karen Thorsrud's watch because apparently the coronavirus was too deadly for them to be exposed to there.
00:22:56.180 Now, and I should note, Pastor James Coates, his church has operated at capacity for 37 straight weeks without a single instance of coronavirus until the province seized control of the property and took it from them.
00:23:13.040 Now, that hasn't stopped them from meeting, but that was the only way that the government thought that they could crack down on this church.
00:23:19.920 They locked up their pastor.
00:23:21.760 That didn't work.
00:23:23.140 So then they stole the facility from them and the church continues to meet, I'll swear, underground, a secret church in the Western world.
00:23:31.100 Now, I point out the fact that this prosecutor, Karen Thorsrud, is trying to do this in secret, that they're having this bizarre system where the public can listen with their ears but not see.
00:23:43.040 I think this is what they would call a stitch-up, which is, obviously, I mean, I've met the church members.
00:23:51.500 I've attended that church one weekend.
00:23:53.800 They are as gentle as lambs, and they are not confrontational.
00:23:59.680 Of course, the pastor literally turned himself in to the police department on his own volition.
00:24:04.780 And Pastor Arthur Pawlowski in Calgary is a little louder and more bellicose.
00:24:10.440 Pastor James Coates couldn't be more submissive to authority.
00:24:14.040 He willingly took the 35-day prison sentence.
00:24:17.080 It was as if they gave him the keys.
00:24:18.580 He could leave any time as long as he just promised to shut down his church.
00:24:21.020 So my point of reciting how gentle he is is that this whole drama queen move by Karen Thorsrud,
00:24:28.280 Oh, my God, Your Honor, you know, I prosecuted the mafia, I prosecuted murderers, I prosecuted terrorists, but nothing like this.
00:24:35.840 Please, Your Honor, don't say my name, Karen Thorsrud.
00:24:39.500 Let me be secret, and don't let anyone see me.
00:24:42.180 I'm worried about these Christian terrorists.
00:24:44.880 That's really what this is.
00:24:46.280 This is a dramatic effect to try and poison the well against the gentlest pastor around by a prosecution that is motivated by anti-Christian bigotry.
00:24:58.020 That's how I see it.
00:24:59.280 What do you think?
00:25:01.140 The prosecutor is not the only one succumbing to this victimhood as virtue philosophy that's perpetrating itself in our justice system.
00:25:11.060 The Alberta Health Services inspector, who routinely harassed and interrupted church services through her own admission, she submitted evidence of her own crime, I guess, at trial, a video that she took during Grace Life Church Services when she was inside the building surveilling them, and also a picture that she took.
00:25:37.100 Her name is Janine Hanrahan, and she admitted when she was being cross-examined by Leighton Gray, one of Pastor James Coates' attorneys or lawyers, that she started bringing police with her to the church, because initially she didn't do that.
00:26:00.620 But she started bringing police with her to the church because of the media attention that was being directed at the church once Alberta Health Services got involved.
00:26:10.760 Not that she felt threatened by anybody who went to the church at all.
00:26:14.180 Huh. So, was it to impress the media, or to send a narrative to the media, or the media wanted it? Like, I don't understand the media.
00:26:24.720 So, you bring police if you want to protect yourself, and she says she felt no fear.
00:26:31.420 You bring police if you want to intimidate someone, that's certainly evident.
00:26:35.720 And you bring police if you want to put on a drama queen show.
00:26:39.460 Is that last one, like when you say because of the media, what does that mean?
00:26:43.560 Because they told her to, or because they wanted a spectacle?
00:26:47.360 I think because she was putting on a spectacle.
00:26:50.060 Now, she wasn't entirely clear.
00:26:52.440 And I'm probably inferring a bit here.
00:26:55.160 But she testified that when Leighton Gray asked her what changed, why did you start bringing the police?
00:27:02.700 She said the media attention changed.
00:27:05.760 Was it political theater for the media?
00:27:09.200 I mean, what else am I supposed to infer?
00:27:12.620 You know, the rule of law means no one is above the law, and no one is below the law.
00:27:16.340 And they, you've told me several things already that tells me that Grace Life Church is below the law here.
00:27:21.660 That they interrupt the church in violation of Section 176.2 of the criminal code.
00:27:26.160 That they harass the church, they harass the church, and they admit the church doesn't harass them back.
00:27:30.840 But, for shock and awe, she brings cops to delight the media.
00:27:34.280 And finally, that they're keeping the identity of the prosecutor's secret.
00:27:37.880 We don't have secret prosecutors in Canada.
00:27:40.660 If you're suing, if you're prosecuting the mafia or the terrorists, if you need protection, you get protection.
00:27:45.740 You don't get to be anonymous.
00:27:46.760 I think it's a sign that this prosecutor knows what she is doing is shameful.
00:27:51.660 And for the court to go along with it is shameful.
00:27:54.700 They should be ashamed, because they, and here's the crazy thing.
00:27:58.840 Pastor Coates is on trial again today, second day.
00:28:01.980 I think they're going to arrest Pastor Pavlovsky, Arthur Pavlovsky in Calgary.
00:28:06.020 And Alberta, my home province, motto, Fort Hissabert, strong and free,
00:28:11.440 will be the place of not one, but two pastors in jail.
00:28:14.860 I don't know of any other jurisdiction in a free democracy anywhere, in Europe, in America, in Australia.
00:28:22.280 I don't know any democracy in the world that in this lockdown has jailed one pastor, let alone two.
00:28:30.520 And to have secret trials and secret affidavits, as has been done to Pastor Pavlovsky, is such a disgrace.
00:28:39.040 I'm so angry about it.
00:28:40.420 You're live tweeting this.
00:28:41.780 Where can we catch your updates for folks who haven't been following you on Twitter?
00:28:45.620 You can find it at freepastorjames.com.
00:28:49.880 And you just touched on something there, and I've got a couple minutes before I have to get it back into court.
00:28:55.700 They laid out the timeline today, Pastor Coates' lawyers, about when the enforcement happened to Pastor James.
00:29:03.800 December 20th, directly after a sermon that was critical of the government.
00:29:09.580 February 16th, directly after a February 14th sermon that was directly critical of the government.
00:29:18.220 It would seem as though the only time public health was an absolute emergency that health officials had to crack down on that church
00:29:25.960 was every time immediately after the church held a sermon critical of the government.
00:29:31.820 Huh.
00:29:32.540 I'm not surprised.
00:29:34.040 I am disgusted.
00:29:35.160 Alberta, once the freest province, is rapidly becoming the least free.
00:29:40.680 I see the premier there talking about bringing in curfews, scolding people.
00:29:45.640 We have a fight the fines project, and I think that Alberta is going to soon become the largest source of customers
00:29:52.240 because it has the most abusive enforcement.
00:29:56.840 Pastor Coates has the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms helping him in court.
00:30:01.040 We're representing Pastor Arthur Pavlovsky in Calgary.
00:30:06.120 And in both cases, you've got to wonder, where's the civil liberties groups?
00:30:10.500 Where's the law professors?
00:30:12.200 Where's other church and other religious leaders?
00:30:14.920 Where's the rabbis, the imams, the temple leaders?
00:30:18.220 Where's the other religions?
00:30:19.400 In fact, I've even seen some Christian churches denouncing these Christian pastors.
00:30:24.860 I saw Knox United Church put out a disgraceful condemnation.
00:30:28.320 Sheila, I'm glad you're in there.
00:30:29.040 I've got to let you go because I know you're just on a short break.
00:30:32.200 We'll keep looking at your tweets on Twitter at SheilaGunnReed and at FreepastorJames.com.
00:30:37.540 Thanks for doing this.
00:30:39.020 Thanks, Ezra.
00:30:39.720 All right, there you have it.
00:30:40.440 Our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:30:43.520 I just don't trust a word that the media party has to say about Pastor Coates.
00:30:47.300 I just don't trust one word.
00:30:48.300 The only person I trust is the church themselves and, of course, Sheila's reporting.
00:30:53.220 Stay with us more.
00:30:59.040 Hey, welcome back on my show last night.
00:31:07.640 Someone with a nickname, Alberta Patriot, writes,
00:31:10.960 They aren't conservatives.
00:31:12.080 They're all in on this together.
00:31:13.360 They get raises while people suffer and lose everything.
00:31:15.680 I think you're talking about my monologue last night,
00:31:17.560 where I showed the conservative critic on heritage departments or free speech stuff
00:31:22.620 was actually calling for the liberals to go harder and harder until just a moment ago.
00:31:27.120 They are in on it together because they're all in the political establishment.
00:31:31.800 And they did all get massive raises two years in a row on April 1st, April Fool's Day.
00:31:38.560 They gave themselves raises two years in a row.
00:31:41.100 Do you think they earned that raise?
00:31:43.860 Svern writes,
00:31:44.400 That's conservative in name only.
00:31:45.620 I regret there's truth to that.
00:31:46.940 Riz writes,
00:31:48.180 They are coming for him, Pastor Arthur, because they can.
00:31:50.920 Kenny is mad because there was a stampede in Bowdoin outside.
00:31:55.260 Hinshaw is running the show.
00:31:57.840 That's the thing.
00:31:58.900 Like Bill Gates, no one voted for these public health bureaucrats.
00:32:02.960 It's just no one did.
00:32:04.060 But they seem to be commanding our country.
00:32:06.300 I keep looking south to places like Florida to see that normalcy can return.
00:32:11.340 We're making a political choice in Canada not to return to normalcy.
00:32:15.680 And the worst part of it is it's the conservatives who are holding the line in Alberta, Ontario, places like that, Manitoba.
00:32:23.400 Every conservative party in Canada, both in power and in opposition, is deeply into the lockdowns.
00:32:29.220 And I think it's a disgrace.
00:32:30.760 That's our show for today.
00:32:31.740 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:32:35.980 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:32:36.840 We'll be right back.