Rebel News Podcast - October 25, 2018


Bill targeting returning ISIS fighters a win for Ford PCs — even if it never becomes law


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If an Ontario bill becomes law, terrorists returning to Ontario will lose all their provincial benefits, including free health care. What a welcome change from the federal government, which welcomes them back with open arms and pays them millions of dollars in compensation.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, if an Ontario private member's bill becomes law,
00:00:04.580 terrorists returning to Ontario will lose all their provincial benefits,
00:00:09.500 including free health care.
00:00:11.900 It's October 24th, I'm David Menzies, and this is The Ezra Levent Show.
00:00:22.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:26.200 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:30.240 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:33.660 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:00:37.180 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:44.360 Just call it the Common Sense Revolution 2.0.
00:00:48.240 The Doug Ford Ontario PCs continue to hit him out of the ballpark
00:00:52.160 and the latest issue that will surely resonate with Ontarians,
00:00:56.720 and for that matter, all Canadians,
00:00:58.800 is the bill formerly known as the Terrorist Activity Sanctions Act.
00:01:04.120 And although this private member's bill will enrage the usual suspects
00:01:07.920 on the progressive side, morally, ethically, and politically,
00:01:12.640 this bill is a winner.
00:01:14.180 So, talk about two vivid contrasts when it comes to those ruling federally in Ottawa
00:01:21.000 and those ruling Ontarians at Queen's Park.
00:01:25.180 More reports are emerging of ISIS fighters returning to Canada
00:01:28.960 and potentially scot-free because evidently there are no laws on the books
00:01:34.820 to charge Canadians going abroad to commit murder and mayhem
00:01:38.560 in the name of the Islamic State.
00:01:40.800 On the flip side, as a law-abiding citizen,
00:01:44.180 don't you dare forget to claim that cheap bottle of hooch
00:01:47.400 you picked up in Buffalo during a day trip when crossing back into Canada
00:01:51.560 because if you do, you will feel the wrath of the state big time if you're found out.
00:01:59.100 In any event, it's absolutely outrageous and inexplicable
00:02:03.460 that the RCMP are wringing their hands as they figure out
00:02:07.600 what sort of charges they could or should lay
00:02:10.860 regarding those returning ISIS fighters.
00:02:14.380 Now paging Dudley Do-Right, how about treason?
00:02:18.520 How about sedition?
00:02:20.660 And I bet if you really drill deep down into the criminal code,
00:02:24.340 there must be some other crimes too.
00:02:27.060 But in the case of PCMP Dave Smith,
00:02:30.380 the author of the Private Members Bill,
00:02:32.480 Well, the thinking here is that there is more than one way
00:02:35.820 to skin an Islamist poll cat. 0.65
00:02:39.000 So while the federal government welcomes back terrorists
00:02:42.100 and in some cases gives them multi-million dollar payouts
00:02:46.740 for hurt feelings,
00:02:49.460 Smith's bill seeks to permanently remove those convicted
00:02:53.200 of a terrorist offence from obtaining any services
00:02:57.060 that are provided by the province.
00:02:59.200 That would include, for example,
00:03:01.820 no more free health care for jihadi jackass and his elk. 0.95
00:03:05.860 Feeling sick from that rabid camel that bit you in Syria, Ahmed?
00:03:09.980 Oh, too bad, so sad.
00:03:11.900 Take two aspirins and don't call us in the morning.
00:03:15.480 Also gone would be the right to receive an Ontario driver's license,
00:03:19.480 so welcome to the wonderful world of Uber, guys.
00:03:23.120 Oh, and no more subsidized housing for you thugs either.
00:03:26.760 Best you find an abandoned refrigerator box
00:03:30.080 and stake out a claim under some overpass of the Gardner Expressway.
00:03:35.920 In fact, these ex-jihadis wouldn't even be entitled to a fishing license.
00:03:41.620 Got a problem with that, Aquilad?
00:03:43.380 So sorry.
00:03:44.560 Go fish.
00:03:46.200 What a welcome response to Islamic terrorists 1.00
00:03:49.280 compared to the hug-a-thug initiatives 0.65
00:03:51.760 the federal government is embracing.
00:03:54.680 After all, in the world of Justin Trudeau,
00:03:57.680 these terrorists going abroad for their rape and pillage vacations,
00:04:02.240 they're not criminals.
00:04:03.740 They're no different from our Great Dominion's law-abiding citizens.
00:04:08.640 A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.
00:04:12.400 Really?
00:04:12.860 So even if Mohammed bin Mohammed, fist-in-your-face Mohammed, 0.95
00:04:17.860 has rejected Western values and is carrying out mayhem and murder
00:04:21.580 in the hopes of establishing an Islamic caliphate, 0.91
00:04:25.820 he's a true blue Canuck?
00:04:28.320 Yeah, I guess terrorism is as Canadian as hockey and maple syrup
00:04:32.480 and stomping Tom Connor songs.
00:04:34.800 Speaking of merry melodies,
00:04:37.120 just consider Trudeau's solution for returning ISIS fighters.
00:04:41.440 Oh, not to strip them of their benefits,
00:04:43.480 but rather to have them rehabilitated
00:04:46.580 by sending them to poetry classes?
00:04:50.540 Wow, wouldn't you just love to attend
00:04:53.100 one of those whiz-bang poetry sessions?
00:04:55.500 Oh, Miss Muffet sat on a tuffer. 1.00
00:05:01.160 Eating occurred some way.
00:05:04.420 Lone came a spidey, sat down beside her,
00:05:07.460 said, hey, what's in the bowl, b****? 0.86
00:05:10.720 Oh! 0.60
00:05:12.340 Oh! 0.60
00:05:13.780 Indeed, but through the diversity-is-our-strength lens of our PM,
00:05:18.680 not only is it offside to penalize returning ISIS thugs,
00:05:23.720 we can't even criticize them.
00:05:25.920 We can't even ask questions about them.
00:05:29.300 Remember what happened when Conservative leader Andrew Scheer
00:05:32.280 raised this issue in the House last year?
00:05:35.120 It was Conservatives who amended the criminal code
00:05:37.620 to make it an offence to leave Canada to fight for ISIS.
00:05:40.440 It was Conservatives who were focused on giving our law enforcement
00:05:43.200 new tools to prosecute ISIS fighters.
00:05:46.520 This Prime Minister is using a broad spectrum
00:05:49.440 that includes poetry and podcasts
00:05:52.100 and all kinds of counselling and group hug sessions, Mr. Speaker.
00:05:55.020 When will the Prime Minister take the security of Canadians seriously
00:05:58.200 and look for ways to put these ISIS fighters in jail?
00:06:01.680 Mr. Speaker, the Conservative Party learned nothing from the last election
00:06:09.620 and the lessons Canadians taught them.
00:06:11.340 They ran an election on snitch lines against Muslims.
00:06:15.460 They ran an election on Islamophobia and division.
00:06:19.560 And still, they play the same games trying to scare Canadians. 0.50
00:06:24.800 The fact is, we always focus on the security of Canadians
00:06:29.220 and we always will.
00:06:31.120 And they play politics of fear and Canadians reject that.
00:06:35.320 Only one word comes to mind, and that word is despicable.
00:06:40.980 In fact, I don't know who I have more contempt for, folks.
00:06:44.320 Is it the returning ISIS fighters?
00:06:46.340 Or is it the Trudeau liberals who serve as the enablers of ISIS fighters?
00:06:52.260 In the meantime, Smith's sanctioning bill has a long way to go
00:06:55.920 before it is proclaimed law.
00:06:57.180 But even if it does become law, already the chattering classes 1.00
00:07:00.860 are poo-pooing this initiative, noting that it would likely be deemed
00:07:05.400 unconstitutional if put to the test.
00:07:08.600 A recent Global News report quoted Charisma Mathen,
00:07:12.560 a professor of constitutional law at the University of Ottawa,
00:07:17.040 as saying the bill could be in violation of Section 7
00:07:20.380 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,
00:07:22.500 which protects a person's right to life,
00:07:25.160 even if that person's hobby is ending the lives of others.
00:07:29.500 Said Mathen, quote,
00:07:30.860 even people in prison are entitled to medical treatment,
00:07:34.960 so the idea that once someone, if paroled,
00:07:37.680 you can just kick them off health care is not going to fly.
00:07:41.920 She also said the proposed legislation is outside the mandate
00:07:45.260 of the Ontario government,
00:07:47.400 as violations of the Canadian Criminal Code
00:07:50.760 are a federal responsibility.
00:07:53.680 And you know what?
00:07:54.960 Maybe Mathen is correct on both counts. 0.98
00:07:57.700 But here's the rub.
00:07:58.620 Even if Smith's bill is deemed unconstitutional,
00:08:02.220 this is still a big political win for the Ford PCs
00:08:06.120 and indeed the federal conservatives.
00:08:08.440 Because with less than a year to go before the next federal election,
00:08:12.220 would even Justin Trudeau dare go to bat for his jihadi pals 1.00
00:08:17.520 by denouncing this bill or by invoking the notwithstanding clause to dismiss it.
00:08:23.600 After all, we know how Justin has a soft spot in his heart for Islamist causes. 1.00
00:08:29.040 But we also know the vast majority of Canadians reject such toxic ideology.
00:08:34.440 So will Justin take yet another high-profile virtue-signalling public stand
00:08:40.200 for Canada's returning homegrown jihadis
00:08:43.280 at the risk of alienating real Canadians?
00:08:47.080 Or will he divert his eyes and hold his nose when Smith's bill is passed?
00:08:53.040 Oh, what a fascinating year awaits.
00:08:55.940 Well, how do you like them, apples folks,
00:09:23.800 for a change, Justin Trudeau was being refreshingly honest
00:09:27.560 regarding carbon emissions.
00:09:29.640 Yet why is it when the federal election campaign
00:09:32.860 unofficially kicked off yesterday in Ontario,
00:09:36.140 first and foremost,
00:09:37.640 a carbon tax was part of the Liberals' election campaign promising.
00:09:43.060 And what's more, the promise was if you endorse a carbon tax,
00:09:48.720 this is going to be a financial boon to Canadians,
00:09:52.940 not a boondoggle.
00:09:55.160 Is anyone buying that?
00:09:57.740 Well, joining me right now is Catherine Swift with Working Canadians. 0.99
00:10:02.820 And Catherine, once I heard those figures being bandied around 0.96
00:10:07.740 by Trudeau and the bureaucrats that were explaining
00:10:12.300 the technical process to the journalists.
00:10:15.120 Don't know about you, my friend,
00:10:16.420 but the needle in my BS detector was veering sharply into the red zone.
00:10:22.220 What say you?
00:10:23.640 Yeah, I'm just quite flabbergasted by this whole process.
00:10:30.600 First of all, the clip you played, of course,
00:10:32.580 it always kills me.
00:10:33.580 Trudeau has a habit of saying one thing in French
00:10:36.340 and another in English.
00:10:37.800 And he really must think we're morons,
00:10:39.800 that A, lots of us speak both languages.
00:10:43.080 And in this day and age, does he really,
00:10:45.060 I mean, maybe 100 years ago,
00:10:46.240 it wouldn't have gotten out to the rest of the country.
00:10:48.020 But that just amazes me no end,
00:10:50.080 because that clip basically said
00:10:52.080 it won't make any difference anyway.
00:10:54.320 So yeah, that having taken place, however,
00:10:58.180 I mean, I've spent a long time in advocacy
00:11:01.380 for mostly small business and taxpayers in general.
00:11:04.180 And I have never heard of this magical tax
00:11:07.300 that you pay X and you get back more than X.
00:11:11.120 This is truly a new thing, I think, in the realm of taxation.
00:11:15.700 But seriously, how in the world does he think
00:11:19.960 any rational Canadian is going to buy this?
00:11:23.540 And in the announcement, there was just so,
00:11:25.160 I mean, we could talk about this probably for hours,
00:11:27.920 but first of all, he calls it a pan-Canadian plan.
00:11:31.640 Well, of course, it's nothing of the sort.
00:11:33.540 It's a patchwork quilt.
00:11:35.080 Every jurisdiction has their own version of this
00:11:38.080 or some version of it.
00:11:39.900 And that kind of thing for,
00:11:41.480 to try to do business among the provinces
00:11:43.540 when you're dealing with every single jurisdiction
00:11:46.240 has something different going on,
00:11:47.980 just makes it horribly, horribly difficult
00:11:50.260 for businesses in particular,
00:11:52.040 and of course, consumers too.
00:11:53.320 So there's no doubt.
00:11:55.700 When we drill down to the nitty-gritty,
00:11:57.920 he's saying that for an average
00:12:00.780 Ontarian family of four,
00:12:02.600 you could expect a $244 check
00:12:06.940 to offset the carbon tax.
00:12:09.000 But when you look at how everything is going to increase,
00:12:13.040 I came across one estimate
00:12:14.360 that that same family would be paying
00:12:17.820 more than $7,000
00:12:19.220 in regard to the increase in the cost of goods.
00:12:23.380 So the math does not add up.
00:12:26.860 No, no, the math doesn't add up at all.
00:12:28.900 And a lot of people, I mean,
00:12:29.920 we finally, I guess,
00:12:31.220 saw the nitty-gritty such as it is yesterday.
00:12:34.160 And of course, anything like this
00:12:35.740 is based on a whole pile of assumptions.
00:12:39.400 They have to make assumptions
00:12:40.400 as to what an average family is going to consume.
00:12:42.660 How is this going to bump up gas prices?
00:12:44.440 How is it, I mean, there's just,
00:12:46.800 there's, you know,
00:12:47.740 there's a possibility of failure
00:12:49.880 at every single step in this process of estimation.
00:12:52.980 So I'm sure now that the announcement's fairly recent,
00:12:55.220 it was just yesterday.
00:12:56.200 So I'm sure a lot of economists and others
00:12:57.900 will be, you know,
00:12:59.120 examining all the gory details here
00:13:02.220 and disproving the fact that this,
00:13:05.220 again, this magical tax
00:13:06.360 is going to give you back more than what you pay.
00:13:08.940 For businesses, as you alluded to, David,
00:13:11.560 you know, they're all going to have to raise their prices.
00:13:15.500 And what kills me is these strong proponents
00:13:18.120 of environmental, you know,
00:13:19.780 measures such as this is supposed to be,
00:13:21.920 and there's a lot of doubt about that,
00:13:23.540 but they exempt all these businesses
00:13:26.260 who export to other countries
00:13:28.260 because they know it makes them uncompetitive.
00:13:31.200 So they're exempting big companies,
00:13:33.920 many of which are big polluters.
00:13:36.080 And of course, they're including
00:13:37.400 the vast majority of small businesses
00:13:38.880 who typically do business more locally within Canada.
00:13:42.740 But every business is going to have to factor this
00:13:44.940 into their cost structure.
00:13:46.440 Prices are going to increase.
00:13:48.060 And how anyone can estimate
00:13:50.000 that your average family is going to get,
00:13:51.580 you know, going to get this money back
00:13:53.680 and only pay and pay less than that
00:13:55.460 is beyond me.
00:13:57.220 It just, it does not compute.
00:13:59.640 And again, if people buy this,
00:14:02.040 they really are delusional.
00:14:04.840 And Catherine, 0.98
00:14:05.300 when we look at the environmental argument,
00:14:07.560 too, that you've brought up,
00:14:09.260 I mean, we got to face reality here.
00:14:11.820 Canada is a huge country.
00:14:14.400 It's sparsely populated.
00:14:16.980 It's a cold country for most of the year.
00:14:19.740 You know, we need to be,
00:14:23.280 I guess, carbon emitters
00:14:24.720 just to have a reasonable lifestyle.
00:14:27.760 And yet on the flip side,
00:14:29.240 you see coal burning factories in China
00:14:32.660 going up on a frequent basis.
00:14:34.820 You see India adding to their pollution. 1.00
00:14:38.060 I mean, you know,
00:14:39.660 I'm not buying this argument
00:14:41.460 that we have to freeze in the dark,
00:14:44.520 if you will,
00:14:45.360 so that we can save the planet.
00:14:47.680 Because in the grand scheme of things,
00:14:50.100 we're not a major contributor
00:14:51.580 to the problem in the first place.
00:14:53.520 No, no, we're not.
00:14:54.260 We're about 1.6%,
00:14:56.040 as has been cited many a time.
00:14:58.560 And the whole,
00:14:59.300 even if you want to go back
00:15:00.160 to the carbon tax,
00:15:01.140 there's all manner of ways
00:15:03.180 in which this government,
00:15:04.160 which is proposing measures like this,
00:15:06.800 is breaking,
00:15:08.940 even if you believe in it,
00:15:10.360 the way to impose such a thing
00:15:12.740 is just to impose a carbon tax,
00:15:14.780 not have a plethora of other measures
00:15:17.260 that do things like limit emissions,
00:15:19.980 that subsidize people
00:15:21.900 for buying an electric car,
00:15:23.720 that subsidize wind
00:15:25.360 and solar energy production,
00:15:27.420 and on and on and on.
00:15:28.140 So even if you were a believer,
00:15:30.400 and I think there's a lot
00:15:31.100 of very justified skepticism out there,
00:15:33.180 but even if you were a believer,
00:15:34.860 they're going about it
00:15:36.020 all the wrong way.
00:15:36.940 And as you mentioned,
00:15:37.780 we're a cold country,
00:15:38.800 we're a big country
00:15:39.680 where people have to travel.
00:15:42.460 And again,
00:15:43.760 the principle of a carbon tax
00:15:44.940 is that you have the ability
00:15:46.740 to move away
00:15:47.980 from carbon-consuming activities
00:15:49.980 into something else.
00:15:51.320 So it gives you that incentive
00:15:53.100 to consume less.
00:15:54.740 But what option
00:15:55.620 do we have in Canada?
00:15:56.600 Do we want to be freezing in the dark?
00:15:59.640 Are we not going to go to work
00:16:01.000 where most of us
00:16:01.940 don't have the luxury
00:16:02.940 of a decent transit system?
00:16:05.220 So we have to drive cars
00:16:06.720 and so on and so forth.
00:16:07.740 So this whole principle
00:16:08.600 behind the carbon tax
00:16:09.600 that is you have the ability
00:16:11.040 to substitute in Canada.
00:16:12.900 We have a very limited ability
00:16:14.780 to make substitutions
00:16:16.380 away from, you know,
00:16:18.160 carbon-consuming activities.
00:16:19.760 So it's inappropriate for Canada
00:16:21.920 in many ways to start with.
00:16:23.320 And yes,
00:16:23.920 what exactly what Trudeau said
00:16:25.340 in that French quote was,
00:16:26.980 we are such a small player,
00:16:28.680 we won't make a difference anyway.
00:16:31.000 And you know, Catherine,
00:16:32.120 I mean, we've talked about
00:16:33.020 the financial
00:16:33.660 and the environmental implications
00:16:35.280 of the carbon tax.
00:16:36.680 But politically speaking,
00:16:38.120 as I said in my preamble,
00:16:39.760 what we saw yesterday
00:16:40.900 was really the unofficial kickoff
00:16:42.800 of the election campaign
00:16:44.920 by the Liberals.
00:16:45.940 And Catherine, 0.98
00:16:46.360 I just cannot connect the dots here
00:16:48.760 how the Trudeau Liberals
00:16:50.440 think that bringing in
00:16:52.880 a carbon tax
00:16:54.320 is a political win,
00:16:55.860 especially when you have
00:16:57.040 right now four provinces
00:16:59.080 representing 70% of the population
00:17:01.680 that are up against it.
00:17:04.100 Yeah, exactly.
00:17:05.660 And one thing Trudeau said
00:17:07.420 in the press conference yesterday
00:17:08.660 was that he got elected
00:17:10.440 on the promise of a carbon tax.
00:17:12.020 Well, first of all,
00:17:12.920 that stretches it.
00:17:14.160 He mentioned the whole notion
00:17:16.020 of putting a price on carbon.
00:17:17.340 And mind you, that's pollution now.
00:17:18.820 They've changed their wording
00:17:19.680 because clearly putting a price
00:17:21.220 on carbon isn't flying
00:17:22.440 with people anymore.
00:17:23.360 So they've had to change
00:17:24.380 their their baffle gab.
00:17:26.920 But subsequent to him
00:17:29.180 getting elected
00:17:29.680 when Canadians might have thought,
00:17:31.040 well, yeah,
00:17:31.840 I want to do something good
00:17:33.000 for the environment.
00:17:33.900 And, you know,
00:17:34.420 I maybe want to kick
00:17:35.180 the tires on this.
00:17:35.900 Now, a lot of Canadians
00:17:37.900 have seen what it actually means
00:17:40.100 that it's costing them big time
00:17:42.920 here in Ontario where I live.
00:17:44.880 We know that a lot of people
00:17:46.360 because of green policies
00:17:49.560 that were pursued
00:17:50.240 by the McGinty
00:17:50.980 and then Wynne governments,
00:17:52.280 people had to choose
00:17:53.060 between heating and eating
00:17:54.360 in some instances
00:17:55.560 and situations like that.
00:17:57.600 So now that people
00:17:58.780 have had a little bit of a taste
00:18:00.160 and they ain't seen nothing yet
00:18:01.360 if this proceeds,
00:18:02.160 but now they had a little bit
00:18:03.520 of a taste
00:18:03.980 of what a carbon tax means.
00:18:05.880 They're doing things
00:18:06.660 like electing Ford in Ontario
00:18:08.800 who, you know,
00:18:10.340 campaigned very explicitly
00:18:11.640 against the cap and trade.
00:18:14.100 In other words,
00:18:14.780 another way of taxing carbon.
00:18:16.760 We see Jason Kenney
00:18:17.940 probably poised to win in Alberta
00:18:19.660 where they haven't had
00:18:21.260 an established carbon tax
00:18:22.500 for a while.
00:18:23.240 So people are seeing the reality,
00:18:24.880 not the theory,
00:18:25.640 and they're not liking it.
00:18:27.220 No, and you know,
00:18:27.960 the thing is, Catherine,
00:18:29.020 what I resent
00:18:29.740 is people like you and I
00:18:31.340 will be labeled deniers,
00:18:33.800 which is really a loaded word
00:18:36.080 if you look at the history
00:18:37.740 of what that really means
00:18:39.120 because it's all about
00:18:41.900 saving the planet.
00:18:43.140 And yet when you look
00:18:43.900 at the facts,
00:18:45.000 I mean, I'm not saying
00:18:45.680 there's not climate change.
00:18:47.120 I'm saying that the idea
00:18:48.760 of there being definitive
00:18:50.840 man-made climate change,
00:18:52.460 that is very much up for debate.
00:18:54.320 And the fact of the matter is
00:18:55.480 we've had five mass extinctions,
00:18:58.440 all of which occurred
00:18:59.660 long before Homo sapiens
00:19:02.280 was on the planet
00:19:03.240 without our coal-burning plants
00:19:05.240 and our SUVs
00:19:06.180 and our snowmobiles
00:19:07.320 emitting exhaust and carbon.
00:19:09.720 And so, you know,
00:19:11.100 when I hear things like,
00:19:12.640 for example,
00:19:14.020 the United Nations saying,
00:19:15.740 we have 12 years
00:19:16.760 to get this right
00:19:17.720 or come 2030, that's it.
00:19:19.880 It's the beginning
00:19:20.440 of the end of the world.
00:19:21.840 I'm not buying it at all.
00:19:23.260 Are you, Catherine?
00:19:24.620 Well, I mean,
00:19:25.300 I'm old enough to remember
00:19:26.660 in the 1970s,
00:19:28.180 we all got our knickers in a knot
00:19:30.920 over the next ice age.
00:19:32.260 I remember that.
00:19:33.000 So, you know,
00:19:34.020 these, you must be old too
00:19:35.080 then, David.
00:19:35.740 But anyway,
00:19:36.360 the science,
00:19:39.080 the people say
00:19:39.520 the science is settled.
00:19:40.700 It's not.
00:19:41.280 Of course, again,
00:19:42.460 to be a so-called denier,
00:19:43.780 which is a ridiculously loaded term
00:19:45.940 and meant to squelch debate,
00:19:47.980 let's not fool ourselves.
00:19:49.120 It's meant to shut people up
00:19:50.240 when debate is what we really,
00:19:51.780 informed debate
00:19:52.440 is what we really need
00:19:53.380 on these kinds of issues.
00:19:54.560 There's a ton of very learned scientists
00:19:56.660 with many, many more letters
00:19:57.960 after their name than I have
00:19:59.080 who question things
00:20:01.260 and on very legitimate
00:20:02.720 scientific grounds.
00:20:03.800 And I think, too,
00:20:04.980 you're not a denier
00:20:06.420 if you say,
00:20:07.120 yes,
00:20:07.500 we have some climate issues
00:20:08.880 we should totally look at.
00:20:10.240 How can we best,
00:20:11.200 you know,
00:20:11.400 how can we best deal with them?
00:20:12.960 And yet,
00:20:13.780 also say
00:20:15.200 the carbon tax isn't it.
00:20:17.660 Impoverishing people,
00:20:19.060 trashing the economy.
00:20:20.140 And the latest UN,
00:20:21.200 you know,
00:20:21.560 climate change panel report
00:20:23.440 basically said
00:20:24.740 we would need
00:20:25.840 the kind of,
00:20:27.620 the kind of,
00:20:28.280 in their view,
00:20:29.380 which they've been wrong before,
00:20:30.400 we know,
00:20:30.880 but, you know,
00:20:31.460 in their view,
00:20:32.320 they say we would need
00:20:33.620 carbon taxes,
00:20:35.260 many multiples higher
00:20:36.600 than what Trudeau
00:20:37.840 is proposing
00:20:38.940 to introduce
00:20:40.240 if we're going
00:20:40.980 to make a dent. 0.74
00:20:42.020 So, again,
00:20:42.800 is impoverishing people,
00:20:44.720 destroying jobs,
00:20:46.660 destroying the economy,
00:20:48.240 is that the right thing?
00:20:49.440 And I think that's
00:20:50.020 the valid question here.
00:20:51.240 Is that the way
00:20:52.080 we deal with this?
00:20:53.260 Or are there,
00:20:54.180 as Brad Wall
00:20:54.840 and now Scott Moe
00:20:55.700 in Saskatchewan
00:20:56.400 said for years,
00:20:57.320 are there other ways
00:20:58.260 of doing it?
00:20:59.200 You know,
00:20:59.440 other ways of cleaning
00:21:00.460 the pollution
00:21:01.540 that might come
00:21:02.260 out of certain industries,
00:21:03.380 for example.
00:21:04.340 You know,
00:21:04.580 other ways of dealing
00:21:05.640 with things.
00:21:06.540 Innovation deals
00:21:07.640 with a lot of these issues
00:21:09.120 and in the history
00:21:09.980 of mankind,
00:21:10.740 we've,
00:21:11.200 or people kind,
00:21:11.860 I guess I should say,
00:21:12.980 we have,
00:21:13.820 we have,
00:21:15.060 you know,
00:21:16.300 had issues.
00:21:17.360 I remember reading books
00:21:18.400 back in the turn
00:21:19.020 of the century.
00:21:19.780 The big pollution problem
00:21:20.820 was horse manure
00:21:21.540 all over the streets
00:21:22.600 because there was
00:21:23.720 no such thing as cars.
00:21:25.400 So, you know,
00:21:25.940 times change.
00:21:26.900 How can we best deal
00:21:27.780 with it?
00:21:28.140 Is a carbon tax
00:21:29.540 which hurts people,
00:21:31.000 hurts families,
00:21:32.120 hurts businesses,
00:21:32.980 which kills jobs,
00:21:34.060 is that the way
00:21:34.740 we want to be going
00:21:35.400 about it?
00:21:35.760 And don't forget,
00:21:36.720 a number of countries
00:21:37.480 around the world
00:21:38.160 that had carbon taxes
00:21:39.520 for a few years,
00:21:40.620 every single one of them
00:21:42.020 has abandoned it
00:21:43.320 because it was so harmful
00:21:45.200 to average people.
00:21:46.560 No, you're quite right.
00:21:47.360 And also,
00:21:48.060 we have to consider
00:21:48.980 if this revenue
00:21:51.140 would even go towards
00:21:52.960 fighting climate change.
00:21:54.420 I say this, Catherine,
00:21:55.460 because as you well know,
00:21:56.380 if you look at the multitude
00:21:58.200 of taxes and fees
00:22:00.680 and revenue tools
00:22:01.720 that are attached
00:22:02.420 to a liter of gasoline,
00:22:04.320 the whole idea,
00:22:05.280 the ostensible policy reason
00:22:06.720 was to maintain existing roads
00:22:09.140 and build new ones.
00:22:10.140 But we both know
00:22:11.120 all of that went
00:22:12.320 into general revenues, right?
00:22:14.400 We know a century ago,
00:22:16.380 income tax,
00:22:17.140 that was just a temporary measure
00:22:18.420 for a couple of years
00:22:19.200 to pay for World War I.
00:22:20.780 Well, guess what?
00:22:21.940 That's quite a temporary measure.
00:22:23.260 So I'm not even certain
00:22:25.740 that the money they'd raise
00:22:27.400 for saving the planet,
00:22:30.040 so to speak,
00:22:30.780 would even go towards that
00:22:32.320 in the first place.
00:22:33.700 Well, yeah,
00:22:34.120 and history would suggest
00:22:35.440 that you should not ever
00:22:37.160 be certain
00:22:37.740 that that would happen.
00:22:40.080 Governments have never,
00:22:41.120 and British Columbia
00:22:41.860 was held up
00:22:42.420 as the shining example
00:22:43.380 for a little while there
00:22:44.300 because they had
00:22:44.920 the so-called
00:22:45.540 revenue-neutral carbon tax.
00:22:47.340 But as we've subsequently learned,
00:22:48.960 no government can resist
00:22:50.200 significant amounts
00:22:51.900 of money coming in
00:22:52.880 to do what they want
00:22:54.500 with it.
00:22:55.300 And we've seen time and again
00:22:56.420 in Ontario,
00:22:57.220 we know darn well,
00:22:57.980 it was just a tax grab,
00:23:00.120 the whole cap-and-trade thing,
00:23:01.540 and the government
00:23:02.720 even sort of
00:23:03.940 inadvertently admitted it
00:23:05.520 under the previous
00:23:06.840 Liberal government
00:23:07.460 a few times.
00:23:08.440 And yes,
00:23:09.040 there is zero reason.
00:23:10.240 I mean,
00:23:10.400 it reminds me of Charlie Brown
00:23:11.640 and Lucy and the football,
00:23:12.820 you know?
00:23:13.220 Why should we trust
00:23:14.620 this Lucy government
00:23:15.880 to not pull the football
00:23:18.140 out from under us?
00:23:19.540 They have on every
00:23:20.940 single other occasion.
00:23:22.560 Look at,
00:23:22.880 I mean,
00:23:23.040 when I think of the Trudeau gang,
00:23:24.680 the only commitment
00:23:25.360 they've actually fulfilled
00:23:27.140 is pot.
00:23:28.120 And I don't think
00:23:28.800 that's a particularly,
00:23:29.780 you know,
00:23:30.340 stellar reputation to have,
00:23:31.960 although I don't have
00:23:32.380 a problem with legalizing pot.
00:23:34.260 All of the promises
00:23:35.180 they made on spending,
00:23:36.900 on fiscal,
00:23:37.520 on taxes,
00:23:38.260 on helping the middle class,
00:23:39.780 well,
00:23:39.900 you ask any middle class
00:23:41.000 person in Canada today,
00:23:42.120 they don't feel better off.
00:23:43.120 They feel worse off.
00:23:45.000 And so,
00:23:45.560 no,
00:23:45.960 you know,
00:23:46.520 again,
00:23:46.860 barring all the other issues
00:23:48.200 around carbon tax,
00:23:49.380 even if you agreed with it,
00:23:50.860 why for a nanosecond
00:23:52.160 should we trust these guys
00:23:53.960 to not pull the football
00:23:55.500 out from under us again?
00:23:58.040 Indeed.
00:23:58.820 And,
00:23:59.100 you know,
00:23:59.320 Catherine,
00:23:59.560 we're going to have
00:24:00.040 to wrap it there.
00:24:01.280 And besides,
00:24:02.120 according to the United Nations,
00:24:03.640 we've only got till 2030.
00:24:06.000 I don't know about you,
00:24:06.860 I have a huge bucket list.
00:24:08.480 I need more than 12 years
00:24:09.700 to fulfill all my dreams
00:24:11.420 and ambitions and goals.
00:24:12.700 So,
00:24:13.200 I think I'll just put in
00:24:14.880 my resignation tomorrow
00:24:16.100 because the world's
00:24:17.500 going to end soon anyways,
00:24:18.600 no matter what we do,
00:24:19.860 apparently.
00:24:21.060 People have been predicting
00:24:22.280 the world was going to end
00:24:23.220 for centuries
00:24:23.880 and the UN panels,
00:24:25.800 they have said things,
00:24:26.940 none of which have come to pass.
00:24:28.220 So,
00:24:28.400 again,
00:24:28.740 it's not to say
00:24:29.340 there aren't issues here.
00:24:30.160 There are.
00:24:30.780 But what's the sensible way
00:24:31.960 to deal with it
00:24:32.620 and what is the non-ideological
00:24:35.100 way to deal with it?
00:24:36.400 Something that is truly
00:24:37.420 science-based
00:24:38.240 and practical
00:24:38.960 and right
00:24:39.560 for average people.
00:24:40.880 You got it.
00:24:41.680 Catherine,
00:24:41.980 thank you so much
00:24:42.840 for joining me today.
00:24:44.220 Thank you,
00:24:44.620 David.
00:24:45.400 And that was Catherine Swift
00:24:46.700 with Working Canadians
00:24:48.180 and folks,
00:24:48.820 keep it here.
00:24:49.340 More of the Ezra Levin show
00:24:50.400 to come right after this.
00:25:03.280 Well,
00:25:03.820 folks,
00:25:04.140 lots of feedback
00:25:04.940 regarding my commentary
00:25:06.200 about the mainstream media
00:25:08.000 pursuing the narrative
00:25:09.140 that a fire
00:25:10.580 at a Toronto hotel
00:25:11.840 housing refugees
00:25:12.860 was caused
00:25:13.940 by a white supremacist
00:25:15.740 even though
00:25:16.700 there was absolutely
00:25:17.960 no evidence
00:25:18.940 to support this theory.
00:25:20.920 As well,
00:25:21.620 I wanted to investigate
00:25:22.800 the property firsthand
00:25:24.060 so I booked a room
00:25:25.720 yet after checking in
00:25:27.700 the manager
00:25:28.220 pulled me aside
00:25:29.120 and told me
00:25:29.840 he knew who I was
00:25:31.060 and what I was up to
00:25:32.080 and if I didn't leave
00:25:33.360 the property immediately
00:25:34.340 he would call the police
00:25:36.060 and have me charged
00:25:36.980 with trespassing
00:25:37.980 even though
00:25:39.280 I was a registered guest
00:25:40.720 who had just
00:25:41.720 shelled out
00:25:42.300 more than $200
00:25:43.320 for a stayover.
00:25:45.740 Incredible.
00:25:47.580 Ron Joseph writes,
00:25:48.940 Menzoid,
00:25:49.560 you should have kept
00:25:50.340 the burka costume
00:25:51.480 that you voted with.
00:25:53.100 The hotel management
00:25:54.120 would have been
00:25:54.820 terrified
00:25:55.660 to refuse you accommodation.
00:25:57.940 Well,
00:25:58.200 you know what,
00:25:58.700 Ron,
00:25:58.980 whether it is voting
00:26:00.060 or buying booze
00:26:01.340 at an LCBO liquor store
00:26:02.920 or whizzing through
00:26:04.060 airport security,
00:26:05.700 being clad in a burka 0.55
00:26:07.080 is your guarantee
00:26:08.300 of receiving
00:26:09.160 excellent customer service
00:26:11.040 and not being asked
00:26:12.800 any impolite questions.
00:26:14.900 People are so terrified
00:26:16.460 of being labeled
00:26:17.460 Islamophobic
00:26:18.740 when it comes to those
00:26:20.180 wearing the Islamic 0.94
00:26:21.680 fabric coffins
00:26:22.900 that they'll turn a blind eye
00:26:24.440 to the rules
00:26:25.220 and the procedures
00:26:26.320 and even the law
00:26:27.880 of the land
00:26:28.420 even at the expense
00:26:29.680 of public safety.
00:26:31.380 Maybe I will show up again
00:26:33.020 at the Radisson
00:26:33.940 clad in a burka
00:26:34.920 instead of booting me
00:26:36.600 off the property,
00:26:37.600 I'll probably get upgraded
00:26:39.200 to the presidential suite.
00:26:42.220 And Alberta Maga writes,
00:26:43.900 so funny how the media
00:26:45.500 know the motivation
00:26:46.780 in this case,
00:26:48.020 but in other cases
00:26:49.060 where the motivation
00:26:50.020 is out in the open,
00:26:51.680 they claim ignorance.
00:26:53.660 Well,
00:26:54.000 actually,
00:26:54.500 Alberta,
00:26:55.000 they don't so much
00:26:56.380 as claim ignorance
00:26:57.600 as opposed to
00:26:59.020 publishing propaganda
00:27:00.280 to play down
00:27:01.300 any linkage
00:27:02.180 to,
00:27:03.060 say,
00:27:03.640 radical Islam.
00:27:04.920 It's so sad.
00:27:06.400 How are we to fight
00:27:07.440 this blight
00:27:08.200 if we can't even have
00:27:10.060 an honest discussion
00:27:11.120 about it
00:27:11.780 due to political correctness?
00:27:14.520 And finally,
00:27:15.520 David Ball writes,
00:27:16.920 how would the Ontario
00:27:18.100 Human Rights Commission
00:27:19.500 look upon your denial
00:27:20.920 of accommodation
00:27:21.740 given the circumstances?
00:27:23.840 Oh,
00:27:24.380 David,
00:27:25.020 is there any doubt
00:27:26.460 how the human rights
00:27:27.680 hucksters would rule
00:27:28.920 given that I am
00:27:29.920 A.
00:27:30.640 white,
00:27:31.400 B.
00:27:32.040 male,
00:27:33.160 C.
00:27:33.700 heterosexual? 0.51
00:27:34.340 In other words,
00:27:35.580 in their view,
00:27:36.580 these are three
00:27:37.740 big strikes against me.
00:27:40.140 Translation,
00:27:41.300 my case wouldn't
00:27:42.220 even receive a hearing.
00:27:44.000 Well,
00:27:44.560 that wraps up
00:27:45.240 another edition
00:27:45.800 of the Ezreal Event Show.
00:27:47.200 Thanks so much
00:27:47.900 for tolerating me.
00:27:49.240 The big boss man
00:27:50.220 will be back
00:27:51.000 here tomorrow.
00:27:52.300 Have a great evening
00:27:53.200 and never forget,
00:27:54.080 folks,
00:27:54.640 without risk,
00:27:55.620 there can be no glory.
00:27:57.340 Good night.
00:27:57.820 Good night.
00:28:00.560 Good night.
00:28:09.440 Good night.
00:28:12.180 Good night.
00:28:13.660 Good night.
00:28:14.580 Good night.
00:28:15.380 Good night.
00:28:15.820 Good night.