Rebel News Podcast - Bill targeting returning ISIS fighters a win for Ford PCs — even if it never becomes law

00:00:00.000 Tonight, if an Ontario private member's bill becomes law,

00:00:04.580 terrorists returning to Ontario will lose all their provincial benefits,

00:00:09.500 including free health care.

00:00:11.900 It's October 24th, I'm David Menzies, and this is The Ezra Levent Show.

00:00:22.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:26.200 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:30.240 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:33.660 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:00:37.180 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:44.360 Just call it the Common Sense Revolution 2.0.

00:00:48.240 The Doug Ford Ontario PCs continue to hit him out of the ballpark

00:00:52.160 and the latest issue that will surely resonate with Ontarians,

00:00:56.720 and for that matter, all Canadians,

00:00:58.800 is the bill formerly known as the Terrorist Activity Sanctions Act.

00:01:04.120 And although this private member's bill will enrage the usual suspects

00:01:07.920 on the progressive side, morally, ethically, and politically,

00:01:12.640 this bill is a winner.

00:01:14.180 So, talk about two vivid contrasts when it comes to those ruling federally in Ottawa

00:01:21.000 and those ruling Ontarians at Queen's Park.

00:01:25.180 More reports are emerging of ISIS fighters returning to Canada

00:01:28.960 and potentially scot-free because evidently there are no laws on the books

00:01:34.820 to charge Canadians going abroad to commit murder and mayhem

00:01:38.560 in the name of the Islamic State.

00:01:40.800 On the flip side, as a law-abiding citizen,

00:01:44.180 don't you dare forget to claim that cheap bottle of hooch

00:01:47.400 you picked up in Buffalo during a day trip when crossing back into Canada

00:01:51.560 because if you do, you will feel the wrath of the state big time if you're found out.

00:01:59.100 In any event, it's absolutely outrageous and inexplicable

00:02:03.460 that the RCMP are wringing their hands as they figure out

00:02:07.600 what sort of charges they could or should lay

00:02:10.860 regarding those returning ISIS fighters.

00:02:14.380 Now paging Dudley Do-Right, how about treason?

00:02:18.520 How about sedition?

00:02:20.660 And I bet if you really drill deep down into the criminal code,

00:02:24.340 there must be some other crimes too.

00:02:27.060 But in the case of PCMP Dave Smith,

00:02:30.380 the author of the Private Members Bill,

00:02:32.480 Well, the thinking here is that there is more than one way

00:02:35.820 to skin an Islamist poll cat. 0.87

00:02:39.000 So while the federal government welcomes back terrorists

00:02:42.100 and in some cases gives them multi-million dollar payouts

00:02:46.740 for hurt feelings,

00:02:49.460 Smith's bill seeks to permanently remove those convicted

00:02:53.200 of a terrorist offence from obtaining any services

00:02:57.060 that are provided by the province.

00:02:59.200 That would include, for example, 0.97

00:03:01.820 no more free health care for jihadi jackass and his elk. 0.99

00:03:05.860 Feeling sick from that rabid camel that bit you in Syria, Ahmed? 1.00

00:03:09.980 Oh, too bad, so sad.

00:03:11.900 Take two aspirins and don't call us in the morning.

00:03:15.480 Also gone would be the right to receive an Ontario driver's license,

00:03:19.480 so welcome to the wonderful world of Uber, guys. 0.63

00:03:23.120 Oh, and no more subsidized housing for you thugs either. 0.58

00:03:26.760 Best you find an abandoned refrigerator box 0.72

00:03:30.080 and stake out a claim under some overpass of the Gardner Expressway.

00:03:35.920 In fact, these ex-jihadis wouldn't even be entitled to a fishing license.

00:03:41.620 Got a problem with that, Aquilad?

00:03:43.380 So sorry.

00:03:44.560 Go fish. 0.99

00:03:46.200 What a welcome response to Islamic terrorists 1.00

00:03:49.280 compared to the hug-a-thug initiatives 0.65

00:03:51.760 the federal government is embracing.

00:03:54.680 After all, in the world of Justin Trudeau,

00:03:57.680 these terrorists going abroad for their rape and pillage vacations,

00:04:02.240 they're not criminals.

00:04:03.740 They're no different from our Great Dominion's law-abiding citizens.

00:04:08.640 A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.

00:04:12.400 Really?

00:04:12.860 So even if Mohammed bin Mohammed, fist-in-your-face Mohammed, 0.95

00:04:17.860 has rejected Western values and is carrying out mayhem and murder

00:04:21.580 in the hopes of establishing an Islamic caliphate, 0.91

00:04:25.820 he's a true blue Canuck?

00:04:28.320 Yeah, I guess terrorism is as Canadian as hockey and maple syrup

00:04:32.480 and stomping Tom Connor songs.

00:04:34.800 Speaking of merry melodies,

00:04:37.120 just consider Trudeau's solution for returning ISIS fighters.

00:04:41.440 Oh, not to strip them of their benefits,

00:04:43.480 but rather to have them rehabilitated

00:04:46.580 by sending them to poetry classes?

00:04:50.540 Wow, wouldn't you just love to attend

00:04:53.100 one of those whiz-bang poetry sessions?

00:04:55.500 Oh, Miss Muffet sat on a tuffer. 1.00

00:05:01.160 Eating occurred some way.

00:05:04.420 Lone came a spidey, sat down beside her, 0.80

00:05:07.460 said, hey, what's in the bowl, b****? 0.98

00:05:10.720 Oh! 0.95

00:05:12.340 Oh! 0.60

00:05:13.780 Indeed, but through the diversity-is-our-strength lens of our PM,

00:05:18.680 not only is it offside to penalize returning ISIS thugs,

00:05:23.720 we can't even criticize them.

00:05:25.920 We can't even ask questions about them.

00:05:29.300 Remember what happened when Conservative leader Andrew Scheer

00:05:32.280 raised this issue in the House last year?

00:05:35.120 It was Conservatives who amended the criminal code

00:05:37.620 to make it an offence to leave Canada to fight for ISIS.

00:05:40.440 It was Conservatives who were focused on giving our law enforcement

00:05:43.200 new tools to prosecute ISIS fighters.

00:05:46.520 This Prime Minister is using a broad spectrum

00:05:49.440 that includes poetry and podcasts

00:05:52.100 and all kinds of counselling and group hug sessions, Mr. Speaker.

00:05:55.020 When will the Prime Minister take the security of Canadians seriously

00:05:58.200 and look for ways to put these ISIS fighters in jail?

00:06:01.680 Mr. Speaker, the Conservative Party learned nothing from the last election

00:06:09.620 and the lessons Canadians taught them.

00:06:11.340 They ran an election on snitch lines against Muslims.

00:06:15.460 They ran an election on Islamophobia and division.

00:06:19.560 And still, they play the same games trying to scare Canadians. 0.50

00:06:24.800 The fact is, we always focus on the security of Canadians

00:06:29.220 and we always will.

00:06:31.120 And they play politics of fear and Canadians reject that.

00:06:35.320 Only one word comes to mind, and that word is despicable.

00:06:40.980 In fact, I don't know who I have more contempt for, folks.

00:06:44.320 Is it the returning ISIS fighters?

00:06:46.340 Or is it the Trudeau liberals who serve as the enablers of ISIS fighters?

00:06:52.260 In the meantime, Smith's sanctioning bill has a long way to go

00:06:55.920 before it is proclaimed law.

00:06:57.180 But even if it does become law, already the chattering classes 1.00

00:07:00.860 are poo-pooing this initiative, noting that it would likely be deemed

00:07:05.400 unconstitutional if put to the test.

00:07:08.600 A recent Global News report quoted Charisma Mathen,

00:07:12.560 a professor of constitutional law at the University of Ottawa,

00:07:17.040 as saying the bill could be in violation of Section 7

00:07:20.380 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,

00:07:22.500 which protects a person's right to life,

00:07:25.160 even if that person's hobby is ending the lives of others.

00:07:29.500 Said Mathen, quote,

00:07:30.860 even people in prison are entitled to medical treatment,

00:07:34.960 so the idea that once someone, if paroled,

00:07:37.680 you can just kick them off health care is not going to fly.

00:07:41.920 She also said the proposed legislation is outside the mandate

00:07:45.260 of the Ontario government,

00:07:47.400 as violations of the Canadian Criminal Code

00:07:50.760 are a federal responsibility.

00:07:53.680 And you know what?

00:07:54.960 Maybe Mathen is correct on both counts. 0.98

00:07:57.700 But here's the rub.

00:07:58.620 Even if Smith's bill is deemed unconstitutional,

00:08:02.220 this is still a big political win for the Ford PCs

00:08:06.120 and indeed the federal conservatives.

00:08:08.440 Because with less than a year to go before the next federal election,

00:08:12.220 would even Justin Trudeau dare go to bat for his jihadi pals 1.00

00:08:17.520 by denouncing this bill or by invoking the notwithstanding clause to dismiss it.

00:08:23.600 After all, we know how Justin has a soft spot in his heart for Islamist causes. 1.00

00:08:29.040 But we also know the vast majority of Canadians reject such toxic ideology.

00:08:34.440 So will Justin take yet another high-profile virtue-signalling public stand

00:08:40.200 for Canada's returning homegrown jihadis

00:08:43.280 at the risk of alienating real Canadians?

00:08:47.080 Or will he divert his eyes and hold his nose when Smith's bill is passed?

00:08:53.040 Oh, what a fascinating year awaits.

00:08:55.940 Well, how do you like them, apples folks,

00:09:23.800 for a change, Justin Trudeau was being refreshingly honest

00:09:27.560 regarding carbon emissions.

00:09:29.640 Yet why is it when the federal election campaign

00:09:32.860 unofficially kicked off yesterday in Ontario,

00:09:36.140 first and foremost,

00:09:37.640 a carbon tax was part of the Liberals' election campaign promising.

00:09:43.060 And what's more, the promise was if you endorse a carbon tax,

00:09:48.720 this is going to be a financial boon to Canadians,

00:09:52.940 not a boondoggle.

00:09:55.160 Is anyone buying that?

00:09:57.740 Well, joining me right now is Catherine Swift with Working Canadians. 0.99

00:10:02.820 And Catherine, once I heard those figures being bandied around 0.96

00:10:07.740 by Trudeau and the bureaucrats that were explaining

00:10:12.300 the technical process to the journalists.

00:10:15.120 Don't know about you, my friend,

00:10:16.420 but the needle in my BS detector was veering sharply into the red zone.

00:10:22.220 What say you?

00:10:23.640 Yeah, I'm just quite flabbergasted by this whole process.

00:10:30.600 First of all, the clip you played, of course,

00:10:32.580 it always kills me.

00:10:33.580 Trudeau has a habit of saying one thing in French

00:10:36.340 and another in English. 1.00

00:10:37.800 And he really must think we're morons, 0.99

00:10:39.800 that A, lots of us speak both languages. 0.98

00:10:43.080 And in this day and age, does he really,

00:10:45.060 I mean, maybe 100 years ago,

00:10:46.240 it wouldn't have gotten out to the rest of the country.

00:10:48.020 But that just amazes me no end,

00:10:50.080 because that clip basically said

00:10:52.080 it won't make any difference anyway.

00:10:54.320 So yeah, that having taken place, however,

00:10:58.180 I mean, I've spent a long time in advocacy

00:11:01.380 for mostly small business and taxpayers in general.

00:11:04.180 And I have never heard of this magical tax

00:11:07.300 that you pay X and you get back more than X.

00:11:11.120 This is truly a new thing, I think, in the realm of taxation.

00:11:15.700 But seriously, how in the world does he think

00:11:19.960 any rational Canadian is going to buy this?

00:11:23.540 And in the announcement, there was just so,

00:11:25.160 I mean, we could talk about this probably for hours,

00:11:27.920 but first of all, he calls it a pan-Canadian plan.

00:11:31.640 Well, of course, it's nothing of the sort.

00:11:33.540 It's a patchwork quilt.

00:11:35.080 Every jurisdiction has their own version of this

00:11:38.080 or some version of it.

00:11:39.900 And that kind of thing for,

00:11:41.480 to try to do business among the provinces

00:11:43.540 when you're dealing with every single jurisdiction

00:11:46.240 has something different going on,

00:11:47.980 just makes it horribly, horribly difficult

00:11:50.260 for businesses in particular,

00:11:52.040 and of course, consumers too.

00:11:53.320 So there's no doubt.

00:11:55.700 When we drill down to the nitty-gritty,

00:11:57.920 he's saying that for an average

00:12:00.780 Ontarian family of four,

00:12:02.600 you could expect a $244 check

00:12:06.940 to offset the carbon tax.

00:12:09.000 But when you look at how everything is going to increase,

00:12:13.040 I came across one estimate

00:12:14.360 that that same family would be paying

00:12:17.820 more than $7,000

00:12:19.220 in regard to the increase in the cost of goods.

00:12:23.380 So the math does not add up.

00:12:26.860 No, no, the math doesn't add up at all.

00:12:28.900 And a lot of people, I mean,

00:12:29.920 we finally, I guess,

00:12:31.220 saw the nitty-gritty such as it is yesterday.

00:12:34.160 And of course, anything like this

00:12:35.740 is based on a whole pile of assumptions.

00:12:39.400 They have to make assumptions

00:12:40.400 as to what an average family is going to consume.

00:12:42.660 How is this going to bump up gas prices?

00:12:44.440 How is it, I mean, there's just,

00:12:46.800 there's, you know,

00:12:47.740 there's a possibility of failure

00:12:49.880 at every single step in this process of estimation.

00:12:52.980 So I'm sure now that the announcement's fairly recent,

00:12:55.220 it was just yesterday.

00:12:56.200 So I'm sure a lot of economists and others

00:12:57.900 will be, you know,

00:12:59.120 examining all the gory details here

00:13:02.220 and disproving the fact that this,

00:13:05.220 again, this magical tax

00:13:06.360 is going to give you back more than what you pay.

00:13:08.940 For businesses, as you alluded to, David,

00:13:11.560 you know, they're all going to have to raise their prices.

00:13:15.500 And what kills me is these strong proponents

00:13:18.120 of environmental, you know,

00:13:19.780 measures such as this is supposed to be,

00:13:21.920 and there's a lot of doubt about that,

00:13:23.540 but they exempt all these businesses

00:13:26.260 who export to other countries

00:13:28.260 because they know it makes them uncompetitive.

00:13:31.200 So they're exempting big companies,

00:13:33.920 many of which are big polluters.

00:13:36.080 And of course, they're including

00:13:37.400 the vast majority of small businesses

00:13:38.880 who typically do business more locally within Canada.

00:13:42.740 But every business is going to have to factor this

00:13:44.940 into their cost structure.

00:13:46.440 Prices are going to increase.

00:13:48.060 And how anyone can estimate

00:13:50.000 that your average family is going to get,

00:13:51.580 you know, going to get this money back

00:13:53.680 and only pay and pay less than that

00:13:55.460 is beyond me.

00:13:57.220 It just, it does not compute.

00:13:59.640 And again, if people buy this,

00:14:02.040 they really are delusional.

00:14:04.840 And Catherine, 0.98

00:14:05.300 when we look at the environmental argument,

00:14:07.560 too, that you've brought up,

00:14:09.260 I mean, we got to face reality here.

00:14:11.820 Canada is a huge country.

00:14:14.400 It's sparsely populated.

00:14:16.980 It's a cold country for most of the year.

00:14:19.740 You know, we need to be,

00:14:23.280 I guess, carbon emitters

00:14:24.720 just to have a reasonable lifestyle.

00:14:27.760 And yet on the flip side,

00:14:29.240 you see coal burning factories in China

00:14:32.660 going up on a frequent basis.

00:14:34.820 You see India adding to their pollution. 1.00

00:14:38.060 I mean, you know,

00:14:39.660 I'm not buying this argument

00:14:41.460 that we have to freeze in the dark,

00:14:44.520 if you will,

00:14:45.360 so that we can save the planet.

00:14:47.680 Because in the grand scheme of things,

00:14:50.100 we're not a major contributor

00:14:51.580 to the problem in the first place.

00:14:53.520 No, no, we're not.

00:14:54.260 We're about 1.6%,

00:14:56.040 as has been cited many a time.

00:14:58.560 And the whole,

00:14:59.300 even if you want to go back

00:15:00.160 to the carbon tax,

00:15:01.140 there's all manner of ways

00:15:03.180 in which this government,

00:15:04.160 which is proposing measures like this,

00:15:06.800 is breaking,

00:15:08.940 even if you believe in it,

00:15:10.360 the way to impose such a thing

00:15:12.740 is just to impose a carbon tax,

00:15:14.780 not have a plethora of other measures

00:15:17.260 that do things like limit emissions,

00:15:19.980 that subsidize people

00:15:21.900 for buying an electric car,

00:15:23.720 that subsidize wind

00:15:25.360 and solar energy production,

00:15:27.420 and on and on and on.

00:15:28.140 So even if you were a believer,

00:15:30.400 and I think there's a lot

00:15:31.100 of very justified skepticism out there,

00:15:33.180 but even if you were a believer,

00:15:34.860 they're going about it

00:15:36.020 all the wrong way.

00:15:36.940 And as you mentioned,

00:15:37.780 we're a cold country,

00:15:38.800 we're a big country

00:15:39.680 where people have to travel.

00:15:42.460 And again,

00:15:43.760 the principle of a carbon tax

00:15:44.940 is that you have the ability

00:15:46.740 to move away

00:15:47.980 from carbon-consuming activities

00:15:49.980 into something else.

00:15:51.320 So it gives you that incentive

00:15:53.100 to consume less.

00:15:54.740 But what option

00:15:55.620 do we have in Canada?

00:15:56.600 Do we want to be freezing in the dark?

00:15:59.640 Are we not going to go to work

00:16:01.000 where most of us

00:16:01.940 don't have the luxury

00:16:02.940 of a decent transit system?

00:16:05.220 So we have to drive cars

00:16:06.720 and so on and so forth.

00:16:07.740 So this whole principle

00:16:08.600 behind the carbon tax

00:16:09.600 that is you have the ability

00:16:11.040 to substitute in Canada.

00:16:12.900 We have a very limited ability

00:16:14.780 to make substitutions

00:16:16.380 away from, you know,

00:16:18.160 carbon-consuming activities.

00:16:19.760 So it's inappropriate for Canada

00:16:21.920 in many ways to start with.

00:16:23.320 And yes,

00:16:23.920 what exactly what Trudeau said

00:16:25.340 in that French quote was,

00:16:26.980 we are such a small player,

00:16:28.680 we won't make a difference anyway.

00:16:31.000 And you know, Catherine,

00:16:32.120 I mean, we've talked about

00:16:33.020 the financial

00:16:33.660 and the environmental implications

00:16:35.280 of the carbon tax.

00:16:36.680 But politically speaking,

00:16:38.120 as I said in my preamble,

00:16:39.760 what we saw yesterday

00:16:40.900 was really the unofficial kickoff

00:16:42.800 of the election campaign

00:16:44.920 by the Liberals.

00:16:45.940 And Catherine, 0.98

00:16:46.360 I just cannot connect the dots here

00:16:48.760 how the Trudeau Liberals

00:16:50.440 think that bringing in

00:16:52.880 a carbon tax

00:16:54.320 is a political win,

00:16:55.860 especially when you have

00:16:57.040 right now four provinces

00:16:59.080 representing 70% of the population

00:17:01.680 that are up against it.

00:17:04.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:05.660 And one thing Trudeau said

00:17:07.420 in the press conference yesterday

00:17:08.660 was that he got elected

00:17:10.440 on the promise of a carbon tax.

00:17:12.020 Well, first of all,

00:17:12.920 that stretches it.

00:17:14.160 He mentioned the whole notion

00:17:16.020 of putting a price on carbon.

00:17:17.340 And mind you, that's pollution now.

00:17:18.820 They've changed their wording

00:17:19.680 because clearly putting a price

00:17:21.220 on carbon isn't flying

00:17:22.440 with people anymore.

00:17:23.360 So they've had to change

00:17:24.380 their their baffle gab.

00:17:26.920 But subsequent to him

00:17:29.180 getting elected

00:17:29.680 when Canadians might have thought,

00:17:31.040 well, yeah,

00:17:31.840 I want to do something good

00:17:33.000 for the environment.

00:17:33.900 And, you know, 0.75

00:17:34.420 I maybe want to kick

00:17:35.180 the tires on this.

00:17:35.900 Now, a lot of Canadians

00:17:37.900 have seen what it actually means

00:17:40.100 that it's costing them big time

00:17:42.920 here in Ontario where I live.

00:17:44.880 We know that a lot of people

00:17:46.360 because of green policies

00:17:49.560 that were pursued

00:17:50.240 by the McGinty

00:17:50.980 and then Wynne governments,

00:17:52.280 people had to choose

00:17:53.060 between heating and eating

00:17:54.360 in some instances

00:17:55.560 and situations like that.

00:17:57.600 So now that people

00:17:58.780 have had a little bit of a taste

00:18:00.160 and they ain't seen nothing yet

00:18:01.360 if this proceeds,

00:18:02.160 but now they had a little bit

00:18:03.520 of a taste

00:18:03.980 of what a carbon tax means.

00:18:05.880 They're doing things

00:18:06.660 like electing Ford in Ontario

00:18:08.800 who, you know,

00:18:10.340 campaigned very explicitly

00:18:11.640 against the cap and trade.

00:18:14.100 In other words,

00:18:14.780 another way of taxing carbon.

00:18:16.760 We see Jason Kenney

00:18:17.940 probably poised to win in Alberta

00:18:19.660 where they haven't had

00:18:21.260 an established carbon tax

00:18:22.500 for a while.

00:18:23.240 So people are seeing the reality,

00:18:24.880 not the theory,

00:18:25.640 and they're not liking it.

00:18:27.220 No, and you know,

00:18:27.960 the thing is, Catherine,

00:18:29.020 what I resent

00:18:29.740 is people like you and I

00:18:31.340 will be labeled deniers,

00:18:33.800 which is really a loaded word

00:18:36.080 if you look at the history

00:18:37.740 of what that really means

00:18:39.120 because it's all about

00:18:41.900 saving the planet.

00:18:43.140 And yet when you look

00:18:43.900 at the facts,

00:18:45.000 I mean, I'm not saying

00:18:45.680 there's not climate change.

00:18:47.120 I'm saying that the idea

00:18:48.760 of there being definitive

00:18:50.840 man-made climate change,

00:18:52.460 that is very much up for debate.

00:18:54.320 And the fact of the matter is

00:18:55.480 we've had five mass extinctions,

00:18:58.440 all of which occurred

00:18:59.660 long before Homo sapiens

00:19:02.280 was on the planet

00:19:03.240 without our coal-burning plants

00:19:05.240 and our SUVs

00:19:06.180 and our snowmobiles

00:19:07.320 emitting exhaust and carbon.

00:19:09.720 And so, you know,

00:19:11.100 when I hear things like,

00:19:12.640 for example,

00:19:14.020 the United Nations saying,

00:19:15.740 we have 12 years

00:19:16.760 to get this right

00:19:17.720 or come 2030, that's it.

00:19:19.880 It's the beginning

00:19:20.440 of the end of the world.

00:19:21.840 I'm not buying it at all.

00:19:23.260 Are you, Catherine?

00:19:24.620 Well, I mean,

00:19:25.300 I'm old enough to remember

00:19:26.660 in the 1970s,

00:19:28.180 we all got our knickers in a knot

00:19:30.920 over the next ice age.

00:19:32.260 I remember that.

00:19:33.000 So, you know,

00:19:34.020 these, you must be old too

00:19:35.080 then, David.

00:19:35.740 But anyway,

00:19:36.360 the science,

00:19:39.080 the people say

00:19:39.520 the science is settled.

00:19:40.700 It's not.

00:19:41.280 Of course, again,

00:19:42.460 to be a so-called denier,

00:19:43.780 which is a ridiculously loaded term

00:19:45.940 and meant to squelch debate,

00:19:47.980 let's not fool ourselves.

00:19:49.120 It's meant to shut people up

00:19:50.240 when debate is what we really,

00:19:51.780 informed debate

00:19:52.440 is what we really need

00:19:53.380 on these kinds of issues.

00:19:54.560 There's a ton of very learned scientists

00:19:56.660 with many, many more letters

00:19:57.960 after their name than I have

00:19:59.080 who question things

00:20:01.260 and on very legitimate

00:20:02.720 scientific grounds.

00:20:03.800 And I think, too,

00:20:04.980 you're not a denier

00:20:06.420 if you say,

00:20:07.120 yes,

00:20:07.500 we have some climate issues

00:20:08.880 we should totally look at.

00:20:10.240 How can we best,

00:20:11.200 you know,

00:20:11.400 how can we best deal with them?

00:20:12.960 And yet,

00:20:13.780 also say

00:20:15.200 the carbon tax isn't it.

00:20:17.660 Impoverishing people,

00:20:19.060 trashing the economy.

00:20:20.140 And the latest UN,

00:20:21.200 you know,

00:20:21.560 climate change panel report

00:20:23.440 basically said

00:20:24.740 we would need

00:20:25.840 the kind of,

00:20:27.620 the kind of,

00:20:28.280 in their view,

00:20:29.380 which they've been wrong before,

00:20:30.400 we know,

00:20:30.880 but, you know,

00:20:31.460 in their view,

00:20:32.320 they say we would need

00:20:33.620 carbon taxes,

00:20:35.260 many multiples higher

00:20:36.600 than what Trudeau

00:20:37.840 is proposing

00:20:38.940 to introduce

00:20:40.240 if we're going

00:20:40.980 to make a dent. 0.74

00:20:42.020 So, again,

00:20:42.800 is impoverishing people,

00:20:44.720 destroying jobs,

00:20:46.660 destroying the economy,

00:20:48.240 is that the right thing?

00:20:49.440 And I think that's

00:20:50.020 the valid question here.

00:20:51.240 Is that the way

00:20:52.080 we deal with this?

00:20:53.260 Or are there,

00:20:54.180 as Brad Wall

00:20:54.840 and now Scott Moe

00:20:55.700 in Saskatchewan

00:20:56.400 said for years,

00:20:57.320 are there other ways

00:20:58.260 of doing it?

00:20:59.200 You know,

00:20:59.440 other ways of cleaning

00:21:00.460 the pollution

00:21:01.540 that might come

00:21:02.260 out of certain industries,

00:21:03.380 for example.

00:21:04.340 You know,

00:21:04.580 other ways of dealing

00:21:05.640 with things.

00:21:06.540 Innovation deals

00:21:07.640 with a lot of these issues

00:21:09.120 and in the history

00:21:09.980 of mankind,

00:21:10.740 we've,

00:21:11.200 or people kind,

00:21:11.860 I guess I should say,

00:21:12.980 we have,

00:21:13.820 we have,

00:21:15.060 you know,

00:21:16.300 had issues.

00:21:17.360 I remember reading books

00:21:18.400 back in the turn

00:21:19.020 of the century.

00:21:19.780 The big pollution problem

00:21:20.820 was horse manure

00:21:21.540 all over the streets

00:21:22.600 because there was

00:21:23.720 no such thing as cars.

00:21:25.400 So, you know,

00:21:25.940 times change.

00:21:26.900 How can we best deal

00:21:27.780 with it?

00:21:28.140 Is a carbon tax

00:21:29.540 which hurts people,

00:21:31.000 hurts families,

00:21:32.120 hurts businesses,

00:21:32.980 which kills jobs,

00:21:34.060 is that the way

00:21:34.740 we want to be going

00:21:35.400 about it?

00:21:35.760 And don't forget,

00:21:36.720 a number of countries

00:21:37.480 around the world

00:21:38.160 that had carbon taxes

00:21:39.520 for a few years,

00:21:40.620 every single one of them

00:21:42.020 has abandoned it

00:21:43.320 because it was so harmful

00:21:45.200 to average people.

00:21:46.560 No, you're quite right.

00:21:47.360 And also,

00:21:48.060 we have to consider

00:21:48.980 if this revenue

00:21:51.140 would even go towards

00:21:52.960 fighting climate change.

00:21:54.420 I say this, Catherine,

00:21:55.460 because as you well know,

00:21:56.380 if you look at the multitude

00:21:58.200 of taxes and fees

00:22:00.680 and revenue tools

00:22:01.720 that are attached

00:22:02.420 to a liter of gasoline,

00:22:04.320 the whole idea,

00:22:05.280 the ostensible policy reason

00:22:06.720 was to maintain existing roads

00:22:09.140 and build new ones.

00:22:10.140 But we both know

00:22:11.120 all of that went

00:22:12.320 into general revenues, right?

00:22:14.400 We know a century ago,

00:22:16.380 income tax,

00:22:17.140 that was just a temporary measure

00:22:18.420 for a couple of years

00:22:19.200 to pay for World War I.

00:22:20.780 Well, guess what?

00:22:21.940 That's quite a temporary measure.

00:22:23.260 So I'm not even certain

00:22:25.740 that the money they'd raise

00:22:27.400 for saving the planet,

00:22:30.040 so to speak,

00:22:30.780 would even go towards that

00:22:32.320 in the first place.

00:22:33.700 Well, yeah,

00:22:34.120 and history would suggest

00:22:35.440 that you should not ever

00:22:37.160 be certain

00:22:37.740 that that would happen.

00:22:40.080 Governments have never,

00:22:41.120 and British Columbia

00:22:41.860 was held up

00:22:42.420 as the shining example

00:22:43.380 for a little while there

00:22:44.300 because they had

00:22:44.920 the so-called

00:22:45.540 revenue-neutral carbon tax.

00:22:47.340 But as we've subsequently learned,

00:22:48.960 no government can resist

00:22:50.200 significant amounts

00:22:51.900 of money coming in

00:22:52.880 to do what they want

00:22:54.500 with it.

00:22:55.300 And we've seen time and again

00:22:56.420 in Ontario,

00:22:57.220 we know darn well,

00:22:57.980 it was just a tax grab,

00:23:00.120 the whole cap-and-trade thing,

00:23:01.540 and the government

00:23:02.720 even sort of

00:23:03.940 inadvertently admitted it

00:23:05.520 under the previous

00:23:06.840 Liberal government

00:23:07.460 a few times.

00:23:08.440 And yes,

00:23:09.040 there is zero reason.

00:23:10.240 I mean,

00:23:10.400 it reminds me of Charlie Brown

00:23:11.640 and Lucy and the football,

00:23:12.820 you know?

00:23:13.220 Why should we trust

00:23:14.620 this Lucy government

00:23:15.880 to not pull the football

00:23:18.140 out from under us?

00:23:19.540 They have on every

00:23:20.940 single other occasion.

00:23:22.560 Look at,

00:23:22.880 I mean,

00:23:23.040 when I think of the Trudeau gang,

00:23:24.680 the only commitment

00:23:25.360 they've actually fulfilled

00:23:27.140 is pot.

00:23:28.120 And I don't think

00:23:28.800 that's a particularly,

00:23:29.780 you know,

00:23:30.340 stellar reputation to have,

00:23:31.960 although I don't have

00:23:32.380 a problem with legalizing pot.

00:23:34.260 All of the promises

00:23:35.180 they made on spending,

00:23:36.900 on fiscal,

00:23:37.520 on taxes,

00:23:38.260 on helping the middle class,

00:23:39.780 well,

00:23:39.900 you ask any middle class

00:23:41.000 person in Canada today,

00:23:42.120 they don't feel better off.

00:23:43.120 They feel worse off.

00:23:45.000 And so,

00:23:45.560 no,

00:23:45.960 you know,

00:23:46.520 again,

00:23:46.860 barring all the other issues

00:23:48.200 around carbon tax,

00:23:49.380 even if you agreed with it,

00:23:50.860 why for a nanosecond

00:23:52.160 should we trust these guys

00:23:53.960 to not pull the football

00:23:55.500 out from under us again?

00:23:58.040 Indeed.

00:23:58.820 And,

00:23:59.100 you know,

00:23:59.320 Catherine,

00:23:59.560 we're going to have

00:24:00.040 to wrap it there.

00:24:01.280 And besides,

00:24:02.120 according to the United Nations,

00:24:03.640 we've only got till 2030.

00:24:06.000 I don't know about you,

00:24:06.860 I have a huge bucket list.

00:24:08.480 I need more than 12 years

00:24:09.700 to fulfill all my dreams

00:24:11.420 and ambitions and goals.

00:24:12.700 So,

00:24:13.200 I think I'll just put in

00:24:14.880 my resignation tomorrow

00:24:16.100 because the world's

00:24:17.500 going to end soon anyways,

00:24:18.600 no matter what we do,

00:24:19.860 apparently.

00:24:21.060 People have been predicting

00:24:22.280 the world was going to end

00:24:23.220 for centuries

00:24:23.880 and the UN panels,

00:24:25.800 they have said things,

00:24:26.940 none of which have come to pass.

00:24:28.220 So,

00:24:28.400 again,

00:24:28.740 it's not to say

00:24:29.340 there aren't issues here.

00:24:30.160 There are.

00:24:30.780 But what's the sensible way

00:24:31.960 to deal with it

00:24:32.620 and what is the non-ideological

00:24:35.100 way to deal with it?

00:24:36.400 Something that is truly

00:24:37.420 science-based

00:24:38.240 and practical

00:24:38.960 and right

00:24:39.560 for average people.

00:24:40.880 You got it.

00:24:41.680 Catherine,

00:24:41.980 thank you so much

00:24:42.840 for joining me today.

00:24:44.220 Thank you,

00:24:44.620 David.

00:24:45.400 And that was Catherine Swift

00:24:46.700 with Working Canadians

00:24:48.180 and folks,

00:24:48.820 keep it here.

00:24:49.340 More of the Ezra Levin show

00:24:50.400 to come right after this.

00:25:03.280 Well,

00:25:03.820 folks,

00:25:04.140 lots of feedback

00:25:04.940 regarding my commentary

00:25:06.200 about the mainstream media

00:25:08.000 pursuing the narrative

00:25:09.140 that a fire

00:25:10.580 at a Toronto hotel

00:25:11.840 housing refugees

00:25:12.860 was caused 0.94

00:25:13.940 by a white supremacist 0.93

00:25:15.740 even though

00:25:16.700 there was absolutely

00:25:17.960 no evidence

00:25:18.940 to support this theory.

00:25:20.920 As well,

00:25:21.620 I wanted to investigate

00:25:22.800 the property firsthand

00:25:24.060 so I booked a room

00:25:25.720 yet after checking in

00:25:27.700 the manager

00:25:28.220 pulled me aside

00:25:29.120 and told me

00:25:29.840 he knew who I was

00:25:31.060 and what I was up to

00:25:32.080 and if I didn't leave

00:25:33.360 the property immediately

00:25:34.340 he would call the police

00:25:36.060 and have me charged

00:25:36.980 with trespassing

00:25:37.980 even though

00:25:39.280 I was a registered guest

00:25:40.720 who had just

00:25:41.720 shelled out

00:25:42.300 more than $200

00:25:43.320 for a stayover.

00:25:45.740 Incredible.

00:25:47.580 Ron Joseph writes,

00:25:48.940 Menzoid,

00:25:49.560 you should have kept

00:25:50.340 the burka costume

00:25:51.480 that you voted with.

00:25:53.100 The hotel management

00:25:54.120 would have been

00:25:54.820 terrified

00:25:55.660 to refuse you accommodation.

00:25:57.940 Well,

00:25:58.200 you know what,

00:25:58.700 Ron,

00:25:58.980 whether it is voting

00:26:00.060 or buying booze

00:26:01.340 at an LCBO liquor store

00:26:02.920 or whizzing through

00:26:04.060 airport security,

00:26:05.700 being clad in a burka 0.55

00:26:07.080 is your guarantee

00:26:08.300 of receiving

00:26:09.160 excellent customer service

00:26:11.040 and not being asked

00:26:12.800 any impolite questions.

00:26:14.900 People are so terrified

00:26:16.460 of being labeled

00:26:17.460 Islamophobic

00:26:18.740 when it comes to those

00:26:20.180 wearing the Islamic 0.94

00:26:21.680 fabric coffins

00:26:22.900 that they'll turn a blind eye

00:26:24.440 to the rules

00:26:25.220 and the procedures

00:26:26.320 and even the law

00:26:27.880 of the land

00:26:28.420 even at the expense

00:26:29.680 of public safety.

00:26:31.380 Maybe I will show up again

00:26:33.020 at the Radisson

00:26:33.940 clad in a burka

00:26:34.920 instead of booting me

00:26:36.600 off the property,

00:26:37.600 I'll probably get upgraded

00:26:39.200 to the presidential suite.

00:26:42.220 And Alberta Maga writes,

00:26:43.900 so funny how the media

00:26:45.500 know the motivation

00:26:46.780 in this case,

00:26:48.020 but in other cases

00:26:49.060 where the motivation

00:26:50.020 is out in the open,

00:26:51.680 they claim ignorance.

00:26:53.660 Well,

00:26:54.000 actually,

00:26:54.500 Alberta,

00:26:55.000 they don't so much

00:26:56.380 as claim ignorance

00:26:57.600 as opposed to

00:26:59.020 publishing propaganda

00:27:00.280 to play down

00:27:01.300 any linkage

00:27:02.180 to,

00:27:03.060 say,

00:27:03.640 radical Islam. 0.68

00:27:04.920 It's so sad.

00:27:06.400 How are we to fight

00:27:07.440 this blight

00:27:08.200 if we can't even have

00:27:10.060 an honest discussion

00:27:11.120 about it

00:27:11.780 due to political correctness?

00:27:14.520 And finally,

00:27:15.520 David Ball writes,

00:27:16.920 how would the Ontario

00:27:18.100 Human Rights Commission

00:27:19.500 look upon your denial

00:27:20.920 of accommodation

00:27:21.740 given the circumstances?

00:27:23.840 Oh,

00:27:24.380 David,

00:27:25.020 is there any doubt

00:27:26.460 how the human rights

00:27:27.680 hucksters would rule

00:27:28.920 given that I am

00:27:29.920 A.

00:27:30.640 white,

00:27:31.400 B.

00:27:32.040 male,

00:27:33.160 C.

00:27:33.700 heterosexual? 0.51

00:27:34.340 In other words,

00:27:35.580 in their view,

00:27:36.580 these are three

00:27:37.740 big strikes against me.

00:27:40.140 Translation,

00:27:41.300 my case wouldn't

00:27:42.220 even receive a hearing.

00:27:44.000 Well,

00:27:44.560 that wraps up

00:27:45.240 another edition

00:27:45.800 of the Ezreal Event Show.

00:27:47.200 Thanks so much

00:27:47.900 for tolerating me.

00:27:49.240 The big boss man

00:27:50.220 will be back

00:27:51.000 here tomorrow.

00:27:52.300 Have a great evening

00:27:53.200 and never forget,

00:27:54.080 folks,

00:27:54.640 without risk,

00:27:55.620 there can be no glory.

00:27:57.340 Good night.

00:27:57.820 Good night.

00:28:00.560 Good night.

00:28:09.440 Good night.

00:28:12.180 Good night.

00:28:13.660 Good night.

00:28:14.580 Good night.

00:28:15.380 Good night.

00:28:15.820 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - October 25, 2018

Bill targeting returning ISIS fighters a win for Ford PCs — even if it never becomes law

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