Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN! Day 5 of Trucker Commission ｜ Ft. Tom Marazzo

00:00:00.000 hey sydney hey there how are you i'm good you i'm doing all right uh did you want to kick this

00:00:12.860 one off how's everything going and i see we've got a guest as well do you want to introduce

00:00:16.020 yeah sure well tom i think i think you've been regular regular guests on the on the live

00:00:20.400 i'm good i'm good i'm good good yeah so sydney sydney you've been watching the streaming a

00:00:25.540 little bit more than meat stay because i was out in front of prom and to ask paul there's

00:00:28.960 some questions so you'll have to perhaps get us going well i i'm still trying to absorb as much

00:00:35.480 information as i can as well right i think uh even that's an issue for the commission itself

00:00:39.600 uh the extreme timelines for which all of this information is coming out so

00:00:43.520 uh my brain's a little dead as well uh just going on uh what five six hours of the live stream and

00:00:48.620 then you know nine plus every day so uh there is really an extreme amount of information coming

00:00:53.140 out there um is uh is there anything you wanted to add or anything uh specifically that you noted

00:00:58.220 from today well you know i guess i guess we'll add tom tom uh what's the main takeaway from today

00:01:04.360 well i for the most part i saw a lot of the testimony from diane deans she's the former

00:01:11.080 um president of the police services board for the the uh city of ottawa and um pretty interesting

00:01:19.380 testimony i have to say in in if ever you wanted to see a um a textbook example of uh uh waning loyalties

00:01:30.300 that's what you saw today um you know there was there was a lot of uh you know support for

00:01:39.260 peter slowly on her part and then at some point she transitioned to basically throwing him under a bus

00:01:44.560 uh and then back to support and i mean these are these are the kinds of things that we were seeing

00:01:49.740 and that's been a consistent um uh sort of theme throughout this whole thing with a few exceptions

00:01:57.220 um and and i want to sort of say that those exceptions are interesting because they're coming

00:02:03.880 from people that are not politicians where every time the politicians get get in this seat you start to

00:02:11.760 see them uh showing all of their infighting right because these people are the ones who make the

00:02:16.880 decisions the final decisions the staff their their role and their goal is to put them into a position

00:02:23.060 that they can make sound decisions um and so you can see the the efforts of the staff to try to

00:02:29.660 put the politicians into those decisions but yet uh when they fumble the ball um on the one yard line

00:02:36.720 quite regularly they they they start attacking each other so that was kind of a reinforcement of

00:02:42.920 that same theme that we've seen throughout yeah the politicians are always trying to save save their

00:02:46.940 career i think we truly saw the difference with uh jim watson yesterday and the people testifying the

00:02:52.320 day before and and let's never forget every time a politician is in front of a camera they're

00:02:57.240 campaigning no 100 always 100 so can can you talk to us a little bit more about the two witnesses

00:03:03.080 that testified in front of the test in front of the committee today yeah so the um i i think he's

00:03:08.880 the chief of uh intelligence pat um uh he's currently on there he's on a break right now he's been

00:03:15.620 testifying the opp um i think he's a superintendent for the opp uh pat morrison i think is his name

00:03:23.020 and i was listening to his testimony this afternoon but they they spent quite a significant amount of time

00:03:28.500 with uh diane dean's today and so i i wasn't able to kind of get the full picture with him but i did

00:03:35.260 manage to get some and um you know from my experience with the military i understood the his demeanor i

00:03:42.280 understood sort of the uh the thought processes that he was going through that when he was making

00:03:47.420 advice or kind of integrating with the ottawa police and other agencies so that was kind of an

00:03:52.760 interesting thing and again like he's not he's not a political creature right um so when he's up

00:03:58.880 there he's actually able to get up there and spell out the facts as as what they knew at the time and

00:04:05.560 so that's a different dynamic hearing his testimony than for example seeing one of the decision makers

00:04:11.640 uh who's a politician somebody somebody like diane dean's yeah and diane dean's can you so from what i

00:04:18.120 understand she used to work with uh chief slowly before before he was replaced by a by chief yeah

00:04:23.820 so so under the police services act there's um you know you the way that's kind of governed the the

00:04:30.180 in a sense you could say that at one point diane dean's was the boss of peter slowly right it is the

00:04:37.200 police services board that uh hires and and uh suspends or fires ultimately the chief of police and maybe

00:04:44.460 the executive level uh officers within a police department they work for for the police services

00:04:49.980 board however it is actually forbidden for the police services board to ever get involved in

00:04:58.080 directing police operations so diane dean never had any authority or any any um police services board

00:05:05.500 member does not have the authority to direct police operations so it was interesting to see the level of

00:05:13.100 integration and discussion between diane dean's and peter slowly yeah yeah and it's an interesting

00:05:22.080 dynamic right because there's no doubt in my mind that even though that that separation has to legally

00:05:28.300 happen between police operations and the police services board uh listening to the testimony i think

00:05:35.300 in this what they would have considered and i mean it's fair to say this is an extraordinary situation

00:05:40.340 i think a lot of that uh that normal um professionalism between the two was probably

00:05:46.980 relaxed quite a bit uh to to put it you know in a in a respectful way i suppose um so you got a sense that

00:05:57.060 um you know there was some interference or or there were some uh mainstream media impacts to peter slowly's

00:06:06.900 career uh with the ottawa police services uh there was um and i can't remember which uh news agency was

00:06:15.280 writing a story about peter slowly and it was going to be damning for for him uh in terms of way you

00:06:21.460 know his his history of or his uh command uh presence or command style was becoming a liability to diane

00:06:29.960 dean's and i think that eventually kind of led to her uh supporting his removal coincidentally we heard

00:06:37.820 from her that at the time the uh police services board and the council were looking to remove

00:06:44.000 police uh peter slowly they were also talking about getting rid of her at the same time right and yeah

00:06:50.120 we've talked we talked a little bit about dying dean but for the viewers the viewers at home that don't

00:06:54.460 know who died and dean is olivia is it possible to throw to one of the clips from her testifying

00:07:00.320 today perfect well let's let's take a look

00:07:07.340 oh okay yeah that that works as well let's just show let's just show the viewers who

00:07:17.000 who diane dean is i mean i was just i was just aghast this weekend that you know there's a bouncy

00:07:23.360 castle and and there's a hot tub david i wanted to go up there and poke that hot tub 0.96

00:07:28.400 um myself and let the water flow out of it and unplug that damn bouncy castle because it's just a 0.57

00:07:35.100 symbol of the frustration that's gone on for 19 days in the capital so yes we are making changes 0.74

00:07:40.700 to do everything that we can do to end this illegal occupation of our city i mean i was just

00:07:47.340 can i add one thing to that yeah what'd you make to that honestly and listening uh to the commission

00:07:54.220 it seems like most of the frustrations that these people talk about it wasn't because of the convoy

00:07:59.360 sure the convoy had its uh set of logistical issues to deal with but this is all stuff that

00:08:04.920 they neither planned for nor could they communicate uh about with each other because there's just so

00:08:10.500 much breakdown within the communication within the government officials and a lot of that blame

00:08:15.300 unfortunately seems to have been cast on the uh the freedom organizers and then uh you look at the uh

00:08:20.500 the phone call that was put into evidence this morning uh between the mayor uh and diane well

00:08:25.580 did you guys hear that conversation i did not hear that conversation oh fair enough i'll uh i'll leave it

00:08:32.760 for the time being but it's uh it does speak to what you were mentioning about the uh the tensions and

00:08:37.200 the butting heads between these uh different political factions and at one point she she basically 0.84

00:08:41.700 alluded to uh this clique that the mayor had and if they did want to uh vote out the uh the police

00:08:48.080 chief i believe correct me if i'm wrong uh that group would have been involved they would have had

00:08:52.680 to have the mayor's consent basically to move and to act on these changes uh but just communication

00:08:58.400 breakdown all around is what it seems like yeah i picked up on that as well when when she had

00:09:03.720 you know diane dean doesn't really have a a dog in the fight anymore right she was removed as the 1.00

00:09:10.920 the chair of the police services board um and so you know we saw this um this this division or this

00:09:19.620 crack or this the revealing of this relationship between herself and the mayor and and so she probably

00:09:25.940 felt uh more free to describe the relationship that the mayor himself has with the entire council and

00:09:33.500 she basically said look if he wants something nobody's gonna stop him um so he's he's running

00:09:41.440 that as a very tight ship and i think we have a clip of that actually just uh some of these

00:09:46.980 conversations that were happening uh maybe we can pull that one up now right if i can take a moment

00:09:52.520 to explain the sort of culture that exists at city hall the mayor has a group of councillors that

00:10:00.120 are very supportive of his agenda and generally speaking will deliver to him any vote on any issue

00:10:09.340 at any time and so um and that's a reality and i know that no motion of that magnitude would ever see

00:10:20.120 its way onto the floor of council without the mayor's consent and so when i got wind that this was being

00:10:27.280 contemplated i started asking the mayor's staff if this motion was coming because i was very concerned

00:10:35.360 about it i didn't share it with chief slowly i thought he had enough stress frankly and if it was

00:10:41.560 never going to see the light of day on the council floor i wasn't going to tell him about it because

00:10:45.920 he didn't yeah yeah that's the clip that i was referring to yeah the the communication breakdowns

00:10:54.340 there's just left right and center everywhere it could be found it was found uh which is unfortunate

00:10:59.320 to say this pardon me to say the least especially for the locals of ottawa who they could have been

00:11:05.340 uh getting proper assistance there could have been issues that were alleviated but instead it was just

00:11:09.920 all back and forth arguing behind the uh behind closed doors yeah yeah that's like a transparency for

00:11:16.000 you for the city council yeah i mean we we you know we made certain assumptions um collectively we

00:11:24.160 you know had lots of discussions of of you know during the time of the convoy we made many

00:11:28.680 assumptions and what's really interesting to see is um you know when we're listening to this testimony

00:11:36.500 uh a lot of our assumptions were actually extremely accurate um and and that's not because you know

00:11:44.540 everybody here has this crystal ball or i think it's just that it was all painfully obvious

00:11:48.640 um that that what we were sensing in in various different ways of of what was going on behind

00:11:56.960 the scenes i mean i gotta say it's it's it's not entirely um you know i'm not gratified by it but i

00:12:05.060 mean at least it's good to see that our objective was to always be safe and responsible and now we're

00:12:12.220 kind of getting an affirmation of of why we were getting the resistance that we were constantly getting

00:12:18.360 um and and that's a little bit disheartening i have to say because and frustrating because we

00:12:24.520 were trying really hard to get these lines of communications opened up with the the the city

00:12:30.360 and you know i want to say something i i do find it humorous like we didn't have a lot of discussions

00:12:37.300 where we actually wanted to talk to jim watson there was there was no value for us to talk to jim

00:12:42.780 watson the value for us was always to talk to a member of the federal government that's why we

00:12:48.440 because the the mandates were from the federal yes they were from the federal government that's who

00:12:52.120 we wanted to talk to so i viewed it um having to talk to the mayor as kind of a big waste of time

00:13:00.040 um but i was i was alone in that in that assumption there were many other people in these discussions

00:13:06.840 right and you know i would have i was perfectly happy to talk to um somebody above the rank of

00:13:15.940 sergeant at least and i mean i'm not saying that to be disrespectful to the uh police liaison sergeants

00:13:20.300 that we we spoke to i mean they worked really hard at what they were trying to accomplish but

00:13:24.680 we all knew in in talking to the the police liaison officers that they were getting it basically from

00:13:31.740 from both ends i mean they weren't in a in a position where um they could they had decision

00:13:38.380 making authority on on anything i mean it's it's it's similar to dealing with a brand new car salesman

00:13:45.360 right um they're not really the ones that can make the final decision on the deal right so this is what

00:13:52.680 we were doing and you know i was trying to make an effort to get somebody of a higher rank that could

00:13:57.860 that i could get in the room with and then start opening up those lines with the right people

00:14:02.320 and you know a very stated clear objective goal was always to be safe and responsible

00:14:07.960 but at some point we recognized that the clock was running out we needed to get a line of

00:14:15.440 communication with the federal government going and we were getting stonewalled at every turn

00:14:19.500 and that was always at a political level that was never done and and when i and i and i was

00:14:25.400 you know tweeting this today while i was watching that uh and i've said it again this is probably

00:14:30.540 the third day that i'll probably say this on the show is that um and and i want to reinforce it today

00:14:36.920 because every day i go in there and i listen to this testimony the the same idea gets reinforced

00:14:43.960 and for me every day there was never that i heard i have not heard any testimony whatsoever

00:14:50.860 where any member of the any government actually even contemplated talking to us ever what they did

00:15:00.600 is they they from day one started to pre-position giving themselves extraordinary powers and their

00:15:09.980 main effort their objectives were to remove us by force and they realized that maybe they didn't have

00:15:17.100 the justification maybe they didn't have the the authorities to do it but their entire strategy

00:15:24.320 was always focused on or central to giving themselves more policing resources more policing powers

00:15:33.180 uh or more authorities to to break our will to be there by force and only that the ways they were

00:15:41.360 avoiding talking to you and the way the way they were able to get all those police forces was by

00:15:45.760 vilifying you was by getting the mainstream media to write false narrative about the convoy and then

00:15:50.680 rebutted afterwards but all the people already heard it once yes and and it's just in the media

00:15:56.040 they use the media they they play the the mainstream media like a fiddle right and and they're perfectly

00:16:01.640 willing to go along with it to uh say whatever rhetoric that they're demonizing even though those

00:16:06.520 messages were retracted oh yeah they were all retracted i mean and we heard jim watson yesterday going on

00:16:11.500 there in in exaggerating the mainstream media talking points for them from nine months ago and so

00:16:18.160 you know it it's it's it's very surreal to sit there and listen to and get confirmation that your

00:16:24.660 assumptions nine and ten months ago were actually pretty darn accurate yeah um and again i and i have

00:16:31.040 to say this where was the effort to ever talk to us in a meaningful way and i and i can tell you from my

00:16:37.640 my experiences and other people's experience dealing with the police liaison teams they weren't interested

00:16:43.500 in in a back and forth exchange the police liaison officers for the most part were interested in what

00:16:52.040 are you going to do for me that was always their demeanor that was their posture i want you to do

00:16:57.420 something for me it's like okay well you know what i'd like for you to do i'd like to for you to issue

00:17:03.140 those permits for the porta potties that we rented and put up on wellington and once you're done issuing

00:17:08.320 the permits you know what i'd like you do i'd like you open up the street so we could get the uh the

00:17:13.540 truck to come in and clean the porta potties now right and it was never it was never like we were they

00:17:19.880 they never allowed us to be in a position where it could be a give and take it was always a take take

00:17:25.760 on their part right and uh you know we we can talk a little bit about it shortly but diane dean

00:17:34.720 is a central figure in in the day that we decided to uh when we recognized that the situation had

00:17:43.920 fundamentally changed um for the the the entire convoy and so what we had chosen to do was form a

00:17:52.500 strategy based around uh quite frankly the unhinged rhetoric that was coming out of diane dean during

00:17:59.320 the police services board meeting that we all watched yeah it was it was recorded and we watched

00:18:04.460 it and we were we we were uh shocked dismayed frustrated and uh quite frankly we realized that

00:18:13.020 the situation had just fundamentally changed and we would need to do something to change that dynamic

00:18:18.580 yeah you know you know what let's let's go let's go to a little ad break and then we'll go back to

00:18:23.080 talking about that and deans right after thursday thursday in ottawa the public order emergencies

00:18:30.180 commission kicked off it's an inquiry into the actions of the government or at least it's supposed

00:18:35.120 to be the inquiry is allegedly meant to examine whether or not the government was justified in invoking

00:18:41.840 an anti-terrorism law called the emergencies act to euthanize peaceful anti-covid mandate protests

00:18:47.380 taking place in the nation's capital but also in other locations across the country

00:18:51.820 now the convoy to ottawa spent nearly four weeks completely peacefully demonstrating against

00:19:01.760 lockdowns and vaccine passports it evolved into a nearly month-long street party replete with bouncy

00:19:07.520 castles hot tubs street hockey concerts and community outreach efforts like soup kitchens and food

00:19:13.680 for the homeless rebel news as we were for the convoy to ottawa will be there on the ground in ottawa to

00:19:19.980 cover the commission from the beginning to the end because you just cannot trust the mainstream media

00:19:25.140 and in fact that's what today's report is about we've rented an airbnb in ottawa where we're sending

00:19:31.920 a rotating cast of journalists to report on the public order emergency inquiry now you can help support

00:19:37.840 our efforts there at trucker commission.com the mainstream media's reporting about the alleged

00:19:43.840 foreign nature of the convoy funding was cited as a reason the liberals invoked the emergencies act

00:19:49.080 to arrest detain and seize the property bank accounts and assets of anti-trudeau demonstrators

00:19:55.240 all right yeah back to you sid what were you going to say about uh dandies oh um uh well i lost off

00:20:04.700 the top of my head but we had a clip actually about it and the uh the no loss of life uh that she was

00:20:09.120 talking about and to the extent that they were freaking out about this situation well at the end

00:20:13.360 of the day she says there was no loss of life uh it's a quick clip that we have uh hopefully we can pull

00:20:18.700 that up in a moment um but it's uh it's very interesting to see that even though there was so much chaos

00:20:23.680 so much uh breaking down within ottawa uh the protesters it is almost like an act of god that

00:20:29.680 they were the ones keeping the ship afloat uh when the city itself was crumbling uh but maybe that's a

00:20:34.660 stretch to say but i i did uh want to bring up one thing and that is uh for the last couple of days

00:20:38.940 there's been the talks about um uh the deal that was struck between the protesters uh and uh the city

00:20:45.060 i believe and then the police um uh they they meddled in that affair i guess you could say as the

00:20:50.080 emergencies act was uh uh being invoked uh i was actually in coots when this was happening i don't

00:20:55.280 know specifically what went down in the timeline i'm just picking up the pieces as they're being

00:20:59.600 talked about uh maybe you guys would be able to to fill that gap and explain to the viewers what was

00:21:04.240 this uh this blocking roads debacle as an agreement was being put forward yeah so there was a there

00:21:11.080 was a couple of uh scenarios um myself and eva chip you uh chris barber had been up onto the corner

00:21:19.760 i mean we're really talking about rito and um uh in front of the hotel there right sort of the

00:21:25.540 chateau laurier yeah the chateau laurier sorry and um you know all of us were up there and we were all

00:21:31.940 trying to formulate a plan uh to talk to the truckers that were there and an important thing that people

00:21:37.480 have to understand is each trucker is an individual owner operator of their vehicle

00:21:42.860 so we don't have delegated legal command authority over anybody right people are there on their own

00:21:49.540 they're volunteering to be there and so that particular uh there was many different groups

00:21:56.240 within that particular intersection and and the police asked us if we would be willing to start

00:22:03.240 moving trucks starting at that intersection and so we said you know we'll work with you we'll see if

00:22:09.940 we can make that a possibility but we have to again i i remember communicating this to the police liaison

00:22:15.040 team to say look we're going to do the best we can to uh to to make the case talk about what the

00:22:23.220 strategy is why we think that this is an important thing for all of us um but we have to let them make

00:22:28.340 an individual decision uh that turned out to be an incredibly difficult um you know many different

00:22:36.180 conversations that we had with the members that were on that intersection but you know we got uh

00:22:42.280 you know eva chipiuk and i we spent over two hours in a truck with one of the guys and um you know at

00:22:48.700 times it got heated but not heated in a in a in a violent way but heated because there was a lot of

00:22:55.800 compassion in those conversations right and i remember having these lengthy discussions with

00:23:04.160 everybody on that corner various different individuals and then we finally got to the point

00:23:08.600 where where the the the truckers came together they had their own little sort of meeting without me

00:23:16.400 there without ever anyone and they said okay let's pick two representatives to go and speak to the

00:23:21.300 police liaison team we got that all worked out we were there for hours and then we walked over to

00:23:26.800 that we had the two representatives from that corner to go talk to the police liaison teams

00:23:31.180 and the sergeant's phone rang and i knew right there and then that that was not going to be good news

00:23:38.160 and he got off he walked away he came back and he says yep there's no deal here yeah and they they

00:23:44.100 scuttled the deal uh the police were the ones that came back and scuttled that deal that night

00:23:48.880 we and i mean they were on us all day long trying to to get that but at the end of the day i mean it

00:23:54.660 was after dark by the time that happened and the police came back and said yeah uh there's there's no

00:24:00.120 deal here yeah and you know i think i think i'm probably going to repeat this in every live stream but

00:24:03.940 it's it's so important because that's what everyone's saying the truckers had a willingness to negotiate

00:24:08.880 they had a willingness to engage with the city peacefully and you know jim watson justifies his

00:24:15.100 lack of negotiation or or his own unwillingness to negotiate by saying that the truckers were yahoos

00:24:21.780 that they were extremists that they were irrational and what he bases itself upon himself upon to make

00:24:28.660 those claims are reports from mainstream media that were then retracted and we saw he never ever

00:24:36.300 witnessed any act of violence by himself olivia can we show the viewers once again what he said

00:24:41.680 yesterday in his testimony with alan hana mayor watson let me just ask you um you told us earlier today

00:24:49.260 this is great um where evidence came out that um these these protesters they were they were nasty

00:24:56.100 um they were hateful and they were they were vulgar is that right yes and you said that you saw um

00:25:04.820 where you said that they had um ripped masks off of people yes did you actually see that

00:25:11.920 no i saw it reported in the media okay and i think you also said that certain people were attacked

00:25:19.580 is that right uh i didn't say that no i i said that i had death threats but i wasn't physically attacked

00:25:27.600 no i didn't say that you were attacked but you said that these protesters were attacking people

00:25:32.700 did you not say that no they were disrupting people's lives that's for sure and uh they refused on

00:25:40.240 at least three occasions that i'm aware of that they refused to adhere to the provincial mandate

00:25:46.300 of wearing a mask when going into a shop or a restaurant so you're not aware of any incidents of

00:25:52.900 physical violence from the protesters well you'd have to ask the police i know they arrested a

00:25:58.660 couple hundred people and charged a couple hundred people i don't know what the charges were so

00:26:02.740 i'm not privy to that information according to your knowledge

00:26:09.620 you don't know of any so i don't know any of any physical attacks uh not to my own personal

00:26:16.900 knowledge no all right thank you those are my questions yeah what do you guys what do you guys

00:26:24.580 make of that how how violent was this at the end of the day i mean you know you've you're seeing

00:26:29.940 testimony from the um superintendent of intelligence for the opp today and he's getting his sources of

00:26:36.900 intelligence from the mainstream media yeah who we know got this all along yeah go ahead can i ask one

00:26:44.640 question do you guys think that this is a matter of too many cooks in the kitchen or is this a matter

00:26:50.320 of some unbeknownst active malevolence uh on part of our government officials i have to say that it is

00:26:59.120 uh gross incompetence uh and very egocentric and and i'll tell you why i'll say this uh we heard from 0.80

00:27:06.880 um counselor flurry the other day i think it was friday when he testified and and william and i did the

00:27:13.920 the quick math on this afterwards and um he had 99 protests per year you know almost two a week

00:27:21.840 and he'd been a counselor for 12 years so that puts him roughly at about 1200 protests that's

00:27:27.120 how much experience he has and as a city counselor and knowing all the individuals

00:27:33.280 it's interesting because he's one of the counselors in the in the words that are effective and he stated

00:27:37.280 that while protests are taking place the rest of the community is not supposed to be served by the

00:27:40.960 police because they don't have enough resources and that's what he said is during a protest all

00:27:44.560 police resources go to the protest and the city is left largely uh unprotected or uncovered which is

00:27:50.640 an exaggeration i think i don't think the police are that careless but the interesting thing is you've

00:27:55.920 got that type of that level of experience and even the opp said today that the um the level of

00:28:01.520 experience with protests um and with this police department is extremely high but yet you've got all of

00:28:08.320 these integration uh mechanisms you you you know we we've had terrorist attacks or domestic terrorist

00:28:14.320 attacks when um you know the the the man was running around with a gun and he killed the soldier at the um

00:28:20.240 at the national war memorial and made his way into parliament right you know and and we we this is the

00:28:26.320 nation's capital you you have a a you have plans for this i'm i'm don't i will never be convinced

00:28:33.600 yes i mean you're always under um an alert for some sort of a threat to your your nation's capital

00:28:40.400 and to your government so you know i'll tell you an interesting story before i make my final point

00:28:46.880 um 2010 i was uh i was a captain i was posted to uh toronto at the uh the headquarters for the army

00:28:56.720 commander for for um the the div that's here in ontario and we you know i participated as a night

00:29:07.200 shift low-level duty officer in the the headquarters that we had it was an integrated headquarters with

00:29:13.760 the police and we were in barry ontario at the secret headquarters that everybody in town knew

00:29:18.320 was there by the way and on the first day we walked in and i remember this lieutenant colonel

00:29:24.480 that we had there who said look i've been working on this profile for this portfolio for a year and a

00:29:29.200 half and he said um just because the police wear a uniform and they carry a weapon that is where the

00:29:37.440 similarities end he said they will not work with us they will not train with us they are so political

00:29:44.320 they cannot train with us because they cannot fail in front of each other in training because

00:29:49.840 they could lose their careers and so we saw you know the ghg20 summit headed by uh bill blair at the

00:29:57.840 time he was the chief of police of of toronto right and you know we saw what happened and those

00:30:03.200 lawsuits are still going on 12 years later on on what the police were led to do and so you know

00:30:09.920 when we come back to this this experience here in ottawa you don't see that they've learned a whole lot

00:30:16.320 you know and the city of ottawa has not learned how to integrate and properly assimilate these police

00:30:21.600 forces into one another share intelligence you know from my perspective you know what i'm starting to

00:30:28.160 observe and learn i think that peter slowly was right he said this may not be a policing solution

00:30:34.080 the politicians made it a policing solution and they refused to engage with the peaceful

00:30:40.480 protesters over there yeah and and so he was trying in the early days to say this is probably not a a

00:30:46.640 policing solution but they pushed and pushed and pushed and here we are today right the politicians invoked

00:30:52.800 the emergency act not the police and we heard testimony of that already in in the other commission

00:30:57.920 that's ongoing the police no jurisdiction of police in this country asked for the emergency act this was

00:31:03.920 all done politically and so you know when you look at this overall um there's been no integration no

00:31:13.440 coordination and and all of the interference kept coming really from the politicians um because and then

00:31:19.680 that interference on the political side i believe had an impact on the interference at the police

00:31:25.760 leadership side so this to me is is just really a level of systemic incompetence um integrating you

00:31:34.320 know as one sort of unified government but all they had to do is come and talk to us and i think you would

00:31:40.000 have had a vastly different outcome yeah well of course when you don't use your words and when you

00:31:45.040 don't use negotiation you're forced to go ahead and move with force yes that's what took place with the

00:31:51.280 emergencies like that's what took place with the police well at the end of the day this all kind

00:31:56.320 of does come down to one individual and you know over the days we've been hearing those uh representatives

00:32:01.280 from ottawa saying you know they were on numerous occasions requesting federal assistance and you know

00:32:07.200 some of them even saying like look ottawa didn't set in place the federal mandates the federal government

00:32:11.520 did but of course they're situated in ottawa so if there's a mass number of protesters who are here

00:32:17.520 specifically for that uh for the federal government then we need the federal government to have some

00:32:22.640 play in the game but it seems like uh for most of it they were just waiting in the shadows waiting

00:32:26.960 for things to come to collapse i guess you could say so that they could be the white knight uh and

00:32:31.040 bring in the guns so to speak yeah yeah and talking about partition we should throw to an ad but

00:32:35.680 then when we come back we'll talk about justin trudeau and the arrive can up and what took place

00:32:40.240 inside of the house of commons earlier today hey folks from october 13th to november 25th we are here

00:32:49.680 in ottawa for the emergencies act inquiry organized by the public order emergency commission but why

00:32:55.280 why the emergencies act inquiry well because during the freedom convoy back in february justin trudeau used

00:33:00.640 a never invoked before emergencies act to basically seize protesters bank accounts seize protesters money

00:33:07.200 seize their assets trampled their civil liberties so we're here this month for the next month and

00:33:11.840 a half to figure out if the way the government acted was lawful and was appropriate so we are

00:33:16.800 here to hold the government accountable but we need your help we are here to cover it for you because

00:33:20.480 everyone else here is mainstream media so if you want to help us cover it if you want to help us

00:33:24.320 bring you the other side of the story factual actual news go to truckercommission.com and consider making a donation

00:33:31.280 well i hope you guys do make some of those donations hopefully i'll be able to make it out

00:33:38.640 there for a couple days as well uh ottawa of course right now is where all the action is happening and

00:33:43.200 being there there's actually some uh uh non-virtual engagements that you've committed to could you mind

00:33:48.880 just uh telling us about that um non-virtual engagements i'm sorry william uh in parliament and

00:33:57.440 okay sorry sorry non-virtual oh yeah are you talking about the people that i was able to

00:34:03.120 encounter earlier today yes my apologies sorry yeah so earlier today as i always do i went in front of

00:34:09.920 parliament with our videographer isabel revoche here at rebel news and i spoke to some of the

00:34:16.080 ministers over there i was able to catch marco mendicino omar al-jabra defense minister anita anand

00:34:21.920 and i asked al-jabra and miss anand if if it is found that justin trudeau invoked the emergencies

00:34:28.800 act wrongly and unjustifiably will they be asking for his resignation and i didn't get any answers

00:34:35.440 answer unsurprisingly as it's always the case with those with those ministers yeah uh and as well i

00:34:42.000 think you were going to bring up something uh that happened earlier today uh either trudeau or christia

00:34:45.760 freeland uh did you want to bring that to our attention yes we should take a look olivia are you able to

00:34:50.640 to to put the clip of the politicians talking about arrive can in the house of commons earlier

00:34:59.680 perfect sure so yeah so basically the arrive can have the arrive can that that that prevented

00:35:05.680 canadians from traveling across the country and leaving the country now what are your thoughts on

00:35:11.040 the right now well i mean i i fundamentally disagree with its very existence for one um it's it to me was

00:35:19.760 just one more step to work closer to digital id and tracking as citizens with you know records that

00:35:26.400 nobody has a business having any access to anyway um and in the arrive can app is is absolutely a flawed

00:35:35.440 software that was rushed into production uh probably with little little testing and you know i i was a

00:35:42.720 software teacher before i lost uh my job at georgian college in berrien uh and i taught making ios apps

00:35:50.080 and android apps um so i kind of thought it was hilarious when originally justin trudeau dedicated 10

00:35:57.200 no a billion dollars to the provinces to develop their own covet 19 vax uh passes and i and i thought it was hilarious

00:36:06.560 like he was dedicating a billion dollars for for apps i'm like listen i'll do it for a cool 10 million

00:36:12.720 okay uh in fact you know the level of sophistication for that kind of an app would probably been something

00:36:19.280 i would have given to my students as a term project in as a group work um so it's not overly sophisticated

00:36:27.200 stuff and i i could never comprehend where they were getting you know this this number of 10 billion

00:36:33.200 dollars and then we see arrive can was 54 million come on yeah yeah i'll do it for 10. yeah look at

00:36:39.440 what what trudeau had to say uh today it's good to know but no surprise that the prime minister thinks

00:36:44.960 that 54 million dollars is just a petty matter according to one programmer demonstrated that the

00:36:51.680 arrive can app could have been designed in a single weekend for less than a quarter million dollars

00:36:57.680 instead this prime minister paid 54 million dollars 10 000 people were sent by that app wrongly into

00:37:04.480 quarantine when they shouldn't have been someone designed an app that didn't work that sent 10 000

00:37:10.800 people wrongly into quarantine that had addresses home addresses as the headquarters of the companies

00:37:19.280 that received the money many of the subcontractors are still secret if the prime minister will not tell

00:37:25.200 us the identity of those companies then maybe he can tell us who was the genius with with the genius

00:37:31.280 who spent that 54 million dollars on an app that could be designed in a weekend please design stand up now

00:37:38.480 the great honorable prime minister

00:37:48.560 is justin trudeau's beautiful smug face at the end what do you make of it of this uh listen i i you

00:37:54.640 know no matter what you think about pierre polyev you know i i haven't fully decided on the guy

00:38:01.360 you can't help but want to get the popcorn when he gets on a roll when he starts taking you know tearing

00:38:06.000 into the liberal government i mean it's it's a fun thing to watch i'm not gonna lie um but you know

00:38:12.640 he's right he's right like i mean these are you know a quarter million dollars i mean i i'm i'm i'm

00:38:20.160 even shocked by that number to to design this this app and i mean what's frightening is what he clearly

00:38:25.520 identified was um you know violations of pita which is something software developers are aware of in

00:38:33.440 terms of internet security um he's violated you know if if they're giving out wrong addresses or

00:38:40.640 app addresses are showing out i mean that's a clear uh breach i mean i wouldn't be surprised if this

00:38:46.400 thing could be hacked with something as simple as an sql injection which is like an old way of hacking

00:38:51.600 um but it's it's really bizarre to me to see and and then you've i did hear the stories about ten

00:38:57.680 thousand um or i didn't know the number at the time but all these people that were wrongly forced

00:39:02.800 into quarantine because of fatal flaws in the software itself and i and i can tell you as a

00:39:08.000 as a former software developer um you know coding is only 10 of what you do it 90 of what you do is

00:39:16.400 debugging and it doesn't sound to me like they had enough time to get through any of the debugging

00:39:22.400 yeah and you know how much did he spend on the app 54 million 54 million dollars so we see a pattern

00:39:27.440 of the liberal party of canada the liberal party that doesn't evaluate the success of one of their

00:39:34.080 programs of one of their spending programs by the by how effective it was they don't evaluate it by

00:39:39.760 looking at how effective arrive can was as how helpful arrive can arrive can was they look at how much

00:39:46.560 money they spent on the app when they talk about a housing crisis in the house of commons they always

00:39:52.160 mention how much you are willing to invest when they talk about the dental care when they talk about

00:39:56.720 health care about child care they say we are going to spend a hundred million billions dollars

00:40:02.640 but they never mentioned how effective their programs are and that's what we see right here

00:40:07.200 the arrive can app was a pure failure and a pure joke that restricted elderly canadians and unvaccinated 1.00

00:40:14.400 canadians from entering their country either because they did not have a cell phone or because they were

00:40:19.120 not vaccinated which is absolutely disgusting to see yet they don't evaluate the success of their program

00:40:24.560 by looking at these terrible things that occurred they evaluated by saying we spent 54 million dollars

00:40:32.000 on that program that's twice as more as conservatives has spent on x program it is absolutely unbelievable

00:40:38.320 but it's not surprising for the liberal party what do you think is it we're proud that we were able to

00:40:43.680 waste more of your money than the other guy i mean that's honestly what i'm hearing right and it is really

00:40:49.040 sad because it is almost a history of this and i kind of asked the same question before with regards

00:40:53.680 to auto officials but are they just like do they know that they're making these mistakes are they

00:40:59.360 able to uh visualize their own faults uh or are they doing this on purpose which is the the dangerous

00:41:05.760 question or the dangerous answer that question is yes and that's something i guess is in speculation

00:41:10.160 at the moment but the track record of failure is now unparalleled i think it's fair to say

00:41:16.320 and even though he still does have a lot of support and he has that that ear to ear grin of his that

00:41:21.520 everybody just hates um even though many love i think his love is is rapidly declining i think

00:41:27.920 people are waking up the convo was one a great example of that where people across the country are

00:41:32.800 being like oh i'm not alone i'm not the crazy one in the room they are literally doing this to

00:41:38.240 thousands if not millions of canadians and it's just a matter of time when are they going to come pay

00:41:42.960 the bill or are they going to try and uh dine and dash yeah i think we have another clip from

00:41:49.040 the house of commons christian philand talking about the uh current ongoing emergency act inquiry

00:41:54.880 and by the way christian philand will be testifying at the inquiry alongside justin trudeau david lamedi

00:42:00.960 anita anad of marcom and the chido and omar algebra in the last week of the inquiry and i believe

00:42:06.640 christian philand is the exact last witness to be testifying on the list yeah exactly on the list

00:42:12.880 let's show what she had to say today about the inquiry i think the fact that we acted

00:42:20.560 that we understood the magnitude of the challenge and we rose to that challenge that should be

00:42:30.240 reassuring to canada's customers and to people investing in canada i am grateful for the question

00:42:40.480 because i was really worried uh i was worried about precisely the issue greg that you've touched on

00:42:51.040 i was worried about the losses that canada was facing every day but even more i was worried about

00:42:59.440 the potential damage those blockades could do to canada's reputation as a reliable trading partner

00:43:09.600 as a reliable place to invest and frankly i was worried about the way that had the blockades not

00:43:19.440 been stopped they could have contributed to the arguments of protectionists south of our border

00:43:28.160 and that is one of the reasons that as finance minister i was firmly of the view that the government

00:43:40.080 needed to act that it was a national security threat to canada um a threat to you know the economic lifeblood

00:43:52.240 of our country for that to go on and i do think the fact that we acted decisively that our action worked

00:44:05.440 shows to our trading partners that you can rely on canada now i can't we're not a perfect country

00:44:13.120 we're a pretty amazing country but we're not perfect i think what our government showed then and it was

00:44:18.720 a serious serious serious decision but what we showed then is when we understood the seriousness of

00:44:28.560 the challenge and we took the strongest possible action to end it no i just i just want to start

00:44:38.000 off by apologizing for making all of our of our viewers having to listen to this person once again

00:44:44.480 on the live stream but krisha the reason why people wouldn't trust canada to invest is because your

00:44:50.720 government is so authoritarian that it felt it had the right to shut down the economy for as much as

00:44:57.440 as long as they want because they have the power if there's one reason why people would be afraid to

00:45:02.320 move to canada or people would be afraid to have trust in canada or invest in canada invest in canada

00:45:07.680 as economy is because they never know at what point your authoritarian government is going to shut

00:45:13.520 down as you just did with during the time of covet 19 and we saw florida flourish and it wasn't shut

00:45:20.160 down as much as canada but now here we have different signs in florida you know there's so many i i

00:45:27.360 got to start making notes when you guys run the clips of yeah there are so many things there's just so

00:45:32.960 many things i could i could pull out of that and the first thing i want to say is this the first i would

00:45:36.960 say 30 seconds of what she just said she strung together nothing but catchphrases and slogans

00:45:44.240 and and somehow masterfully pulled out an entire paragraph of of it was a paragraph like a seinfeld

00:45:51.840 paragraph of paragraph of nothing um and that's the that's the important thing to to about the first

00:45:57.920 sort of what she said but you know like william what what he's saying is i i absolutely agree with

00:46:03.440 because you know she said they wanted to sort of send a signal or to demonstrate to our trading

00:46:09.680 partners that we are absolutely willing to stomp our own citizens in order to in order for you to

00:46:17.280 feel confident in our ability to control our people um by force um by the strongest means necessary uh and

00:46:24.720 uh you know exactly by force um so that you feel confident that you'll trade with us but here's

00:46:31.200 the problem it backfired because you know when they started to freeze the financial assets um and i'm

00:46:38.480 getting a lot of feedback from wealthy uh individuals um that have ties both in canada and to the united

00:46:45.280 states that said they actually achieved the exact opposite they they destabilized the confidence in the

00:46:51.920 canadian government and people started pulling their money and don't forget our charter banks now

00:46:57.040 are uh international banks they're not just you know td bank doesn't just operate in canadian soil

00:47:02.560 right it's an international bank and if you remember when they started to seize the bank accounts

00:47:07.440 uh td bank had a run on their accounts and they on their banks they shut down their atms

00:47:13.840 and the americans were uh getting very nervous about this as well right and and so they

00:47:19.600 they unfortunately she'll she'll sell that to the to the mainstream media consumers the digesters and 1.00

00:47:27.760 they'll believe what she's saying as though it's actually that that christia freeland and justin trudeau

00:47:32.720 did good things for canada when in reality um it's a it's a snow job is all it is it's it's completely

00:47:39.920 false what she just said um is just spin doctoring that's all she's about 100 she says that she loves

00:47:46.720 canada and we're in perfect country well perhaps it's time for you to show how much you think

00:47:52.400 canada's green instead of vilifying in house of commons instead of saying that we have a problem

00:47:56.400 with systemic racism that we have all of these woke leftist issues maybe it's time to show some

00:48:02.640 appreciation for the country yeah yeah i uh likewise with you guys i'd love to go through that entire

00:48:08.320 segment of first word for word um but speaking as uh one of the individuals who is at the coots

00:48:14.240 blockade uh and i've recently done an interview with chad williamson uh one of the uh legal

00:48:19.280 representatives for some of the individuals down there uh he he attests to the fact that and this

00:48:23.680 is the same thing that uh the government of alberta i believe is now attested to and the protesters

00:48:28.560 said as much when i was there in talking to them that the emergencies act literally had nothing to do

00:48:33.680 with the alberta blockade uh it wasn't a reason for the protesters to have left it wasn't something

00:48:38.800 that law enforcement was asking for or ever mentioned uh and it was something that the one of the

00:48:43.040 the lawyers that was involved there was saying it there's absolutely no tie-in to the coots blockade

00:48:47.360 and the emergencies act even though it was dealt with before the invocation of the emergencies act

00:48:52.640 it wasn't dealt with the protesters went home they decided to leave it wasn't dismantled by anybody

00:48:58.080 uh a bit of a different situation than what we saw in windsor uh and i can't speak to all the

00:49:02.720 blockades of course that happened but uh any allegation of you know the blockade and coots you know and

00:49:08.080 these you know charges of whatnot none of this uh none of the events that happened in coots have

00:49:13.600 anything to do with the emergencies act other than it's uh um what would you call it uh not a bargaining

00:49:19.200 chip but it's like a card to play it's like oh look at that blockade over there maybe that's a

00:49:23.600 justification we can uh source for the time being but at the end of the day it didn't have anything to

00:49:28.640 do with it yeah it's false correlations yes and and even the uh the blockade or let's say that you

00:49:34.880 know the the interruption on the bridge in windsor uh i know from a very good friend of mine who was

00:49:42.320 there and who was arrested and did face criminal charges he had stated to me he's a fellow veteran

00:49:47.840 he stated to me he says look i i'll put my hand on my heart and i'm telling you right now we kept a

00:49:53.600 safety or we kept a lane open it was slowed the progress was slowed over the bridge because you've

00:49:59.360 reduced it down to one lane um but let's let's keep something else in mind i don't believe that

00:50:04.880 that was just canadian truckers right like i think that was a a canada u.s uh trucker um

00:50:12.560 you know partnership in a sense too it wasn't just us doing all that stuff i could be wrong about

00:50:17.680 that but i don't think i am um but the other the other issue is we know for you know from

00:50:24.160 discussing this specifically with my friend who was there he said we kept one lane open

00:50:32.080 the entire time and i believe that said you were in the coups blockade right

00:50:36.720 you can talk a little bit more about that 16 days but actually i want to mention uh uh one other

00:50:42.640 thing is that and as you mentioned you know there were americans uh that were joining in in these

00:50:46.480 protests as well is uh the the sentiment that was shared by these protesters was quite

00:50:51.040 literally international uh you've got you know the dutch uh the large dutch protests that were taking

00:50:56.160 place with the tractors even months after there were still protests i mean they've been protesting for

00:51:00.960 a long time the european uh but even months after the convoy and the blockades there was a mimicking of

00:51:07.360 those behaviors across the world and if that doesn't tell you how many people were fed up with uh

00:51:13.360 people and policies like those of trudeau well i don't know what will yeah my understanding was 27

00:51:19.680 convoys that happened around the world 27. so i think that is a um the the exact opposite of a fringe

00:51:28.240 minority across the planet um but i would certainly say that that is a substantial um collective of

00:51:36.800 people across the world that are telling all of their elected officials the same exact messages

00:51:43.360 is that listen you people work for us you're only in their job because we went to election

00:51:47.920 polls we put you there to occupy that position now you're not doing what we want fine we you know we

00:51:54.960 will continue to protest we will try to have dialogue i posted today i went on the house of commons uh

00:52:00.640 website and uh posted a picture of really what the terms of service is to be a member of parliament in

00:52:07.280 here in this country and it basically one of the lines it says you know you you're supposed to talk

00:52:13.040 to your constituents and whether you agree or not and i posted on my twitter so you can go check it out

00:52:19.200 or you know for yourself but this is their job like their job is to talk to people and what we saw

00:52:26.880 again for the fifth day is this absolute um determination not to have any dialogue with us

00:52:35.840 unless it's to your advantage to do so right and i don't mean that in it yeah there it is um

00:52:42.560 you know if you click on that it'll open up yeah um yeah it says get the member represents

00:52:50.480 of constituents and examine how the government uses or abuses abuses the power

00:52:57.040 exercises on behalf of the people of canada right there in the bottom two rows right this is their

00:53:03.200 job literally literally at the highest level of government and make no mistake justin trudeau is

00:53:09.760 the member of parliament yeah yeah and instead of doing that well and instead of doing that they were

00:53:15.920 it was uh accusations of terrorism of extremism it was literally everything you know fill fill the uh

00:53:21.680 fill the blank it was there uh but and perhaps just to reiterate slightly you know that that uh

00:53:27.680 27 convoys or blockades or whatnot that that uh grew or developed internationally out of the convoys

00:53:34.160 and blockades that were happening in canada well what was the message they were spreading was it burn

00:53:38.080 down the buildings shoot the guns no it was we're gonna sit here make a peaceful statement in a way that

00:53:43.920 may financially hinder you and maybe that's you know uh any action might inevitably result in that

00:53:50.240 uh but we're gonna do this peacefully we're gonna make a peaceful statement that we've had enough with

00:53:54.480 your uh your baloney yeah yeah and you know you know about financial difficulties if you compare the

00:54:01.680 two years of difficulties that trudeau made sure businesses would suffer through would go through

00:54:08.960 due to the covet 19 pandemic if you compare that to a business that actually decided to stay open

00:54:14.560 because they saw there was no violence that took place in in ottawa these businesses tim hortons made

00:54:21.280 an enormous amount of profit the businesses that say that stayed open downtown made so much profit but

00:54:26.960 just to go back on justin trudeau is it possible to pull out the clip of what he stated in regards to

00:54:32.080 the inquiry today once again in this house of comments um we're gonna keep hearing lots of

00:54:40.240 information coming out over the coming weeks on what happened day by day with uh the emergencies act

00:54:46.240 with the illegal protests here in ottawa and elsewhere across the country i think uh one of the most

00:54:50.880 important things however is that uh the province and the federal government stood together doug

00:54:56.400 ford invoked his emergencies act we invoked our emergencies act uh we put the citizens

00:55:02.000 of ontario the well-being of families the well-being of our economy ahead of the interests of illegal

00:55:08.800 protesters uh and we were glad to stand together on that and as you saw on monday we continue to stand

00:55:14.240 together on this uh even as we're making important economic announcements i think we continue to see

00:55:26.240 how important it was for everyone to work together and of course there was moments

00:55:30.800 during the unfolding of of this convoy where there was uh times where uh different organizations

00:55:36.560 different orders of government weren't working as uh tightly as uh would have been ideal but

00:55:41.360 the important thing is that we all stood together and put ontarians and canadians first and we

00:55:47.360 resolved the situation did i did reporters uh yell at him yeah you know when i yell at him i'm being

00:55:55.040 told that i'm harassing the politicians but um anyways yeah once again i apologize for making

00:55:59.840 you go through a clip of justin trudeau what are we gonna say yes the province and the federal

00:56:06.000 government that's how he opens what about the municipal government is that this not part of

00:56:09.440 the conversation didn't it take a week before there was any dialogue properly i i i don't know exactly i

00:56:14.560 wasn't there the whole time but the one thing i take extreme exception to is his use of the terms uh illegal

00:56:21.040 illegal protest okay i i'd like to understand you know if i could ask one question uh i actually if

00:56:29.120 i could ask two questions and in my second question that i'm going to state is is directly from keith

00:56:33.840 wilson it's not my question but it's a brilliant question um my my my question really would be at what

00:56:43.120 point did we become an illegal protest because according to justice mclean who ruled on the

00:56:50.880 injunction for the horns he actually said we had a legal right to be here and to do this protest

00:56:57.840 okay so at what point did did justice mclean get overruled by the executive branch of the government not

00:57:07.200 the judicial branch at what point was there an overruling of an actual uh judge in in this city

00:57:15.280 that made that an illegal protest and i'll admit i mean i did a on the final day that i announced that

00:57:21.840 we would peacefully withdraw from the city uh this this um troll who works for one of the online

00:57:29.840 magazines is a horrible human being as far as i'm concerned was was just harassing me it was the first 0.90

00:57:35.120 question it was ridiculous and i looked at him and i said well what laws did we break and his jaw just

00:57:42.240 kind of dropped what laws did we and i asked him again i said what laws did we break and he had no 0.53

00:57:47.600 answer and i said parking infractions these are parking and violations that was the illegal act that

00:57:55.120 allowed you to have your uh your paramilitary units of all of your police departments to attack

00:58:02.160 your citizens because of parking violations and bouncy castles you know thank god diane

00:58:08.320 dean was not actually in charge of a tactical unit uh because then it would this this idea of the a

00:58:14.720 miracle that nobody was injured would have been a complete falsehood so the second question is and

00:58:20.320 keith wilson put this to um i believe it was andrew lawton uh he asked the question too and he said

00:58:26.320 you know andrew said if there was a question you could ask justin trudeau and keith said

00:58:32.160 the question i would ask justin trudeau is what made you think you would get away with it

00:58:39.360 right well perhaps he's perhaps he's i think he's at seven years now perhaps seven years in powers

00:58:44.640 despite yeah we charity essence about like growing a reporter despite all his scandals i think he had

00:58:50.800 yeah i think it was right on to be on the island i mean he said he's been found guilty of ethics

00:58:57.920 violations in the past but yet this this alliance with the ndp is is a vanguard that protects him um

00:59:05.600 and gives him this this this basically this alliance has created a uh this coalition government has

00:59:13.840 created a an unelected majority for justin trudeau right and and it's funny because we were vilified

00:59:20.160 because we were talking about coalition governments during the thing and everyone said you were trying

00:59:25.840 to overthrow the government as an unelected official and form a coalition which is a lie it is not what

00:59:31.680 we we were we were talking about doing but we're being criticized for talking about other government

00:59:37.840 parties coming together and forming a coalition meanwhile justin trudeau and the ndp had already done

00:59:44.880 and formed an unofficial coalition government but they failed to to notify the public of this

00:59:51.760 right and and they're vilifying us and you got bill blair saying that uh we're trying to form an

00:59:56.240 unelected government through a coalition no but you just formed an unelected majority government yeah

01:00:03.760 through a coalition with the ndp yeah it's just hypocrisy 100 you know we are running out of time

01:00:09.520 a little bit any last thoughts uh sydney uh sure i'll just end on a quick thing you know what did

01:00:14.800 they say i believe it was earlier how uh the criminal code there's bylaws uh municipal bylaw

01:00:19.600 infractions these things they they didn't account for the uh extraordinary nature of what the freedom

01:00:25.200 convoy was and so it seems maybe because they didn't have laws that said it was illegal um they

01:00:31.600 kind of made that assumption it's like it is without or it is um outside of the domain of the

01:00:36.640 laws in which we can enforce and so it must be illegal because it's not in the book that maybe

01:00:41.760 that was the end of the day analysis but i know we're running short on time and uh i'm all full

01:00:46.000 of speculation so yeah so there was there was two times where justin trudeau had met with previous

01:00:51.280 protests i think one was a pipeline one was involving indigenous people and the blm too yeah and and blm he

01:00:57.600 took a knee and he also i'll i'll stay away from that one but there's just too many but it was our

01:01:03.360 actual sincere belief that he would send at least an envoy to come and talk to us so we had no reason

01:01:08.160 to believe that he wouldn't talk to us and when he refused to talk to us um you know after all that

01:01:14.320 time and instead his natural default was to use violence against his own citizens um no it's an

01:01:22.480 incredible thing you know that you're not living in uh in in the real world anymore yeah it definitely

01:01:27.680 says a lot about justin trudeau i think there's way too much is a phrase that you can use with justin

01:01:33.040 trudeau a lot of times well thank you so much for joining us today sit from from alberto right

01:01:41.360 well yeah i'm from alberto uh originally toronto uh but yeah oh so you're yes you're like you move

01:01:47.920 from toronto to to alberta yeah yeah yeah and the great province of alberta thank you for coming

01:01:53.040 again yeah thank you we'll definitely have you on at some point as well okay good keep having

01:01:57.840 you all the time i really look forward to seeing your testimony by the way i can't wait it's happening

01:02:01.520 in week four right uh probably week four it's hard to say uh it's kind of a shifting thing and and the

01:02:07.200 witness list may be modified somewhat but i'm the sooner the better yeah and thank you for everyone

01:02:11.840 for joining us tonight as well the service later however highlighted the need for additional legal

01:02:18.800 supports in both the short and medium term requesting assistance to find uh uncharted legal

01:02:25.680 territory the service referenced the criminal code as being archaic and both the provincial highway

01:02:30.880 traffic act and city of ottawa bylaws is being limited in that they've all failed to consider events

01:02:37.200 such as the trucker convoy do you recall who said this i believe it was chief slowly and what did you

01:02:44.960 understand this to be to mean um well just that we didn't have the tools that we needed in terms of

01:03:00.800 this specific convoy with large 18-wheel vehicles to be able to effectively address legal issues around

01:03:10.880 that because this had not perhaps ever being considered in terms of criminal code or even our

01:03:17.120 own ottawa bylaws in the past did you understand it to be saying that they needed a new enforcement

01:03:25.440 authority to effectively end this these events

01:03:31.120 authority to be able to address legal issues i don't know that i would say i understood it

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Rebel News Podcast - October 20, 2022

BREAKDOWN! Day 5 of Trucker Commission ｜ Ft. Tom Marazzo

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