The Freedom Convoy has arrived in Ottawa, Canada, to attend the Emergency Act inquiry. On the eve of the hearings, we have heard from Freedom Counselor Keith Wilson, Tom Murato, Chris Barber, and others who testified in front of the commission. We also hear from Celine Gallas, a Rebel News reporter from Alberta, on her first day in Ottawa.
00:00:00.000Freedom in 2022 is certainly about being able to make free choices for ourselves and for our family, who we believe are the best.
00:00:09.000We have seen so much suffering over the last two years.
00:00:13.240People who die alone in terrible conditions, people losing dream jobs, polarized families, and a society that insult and yell at each other for making a different medical choice.
00:00:26.140But people have risen, and it will be true to them that the future will have an important meaning for all of you, but especially for the next generation.
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00:01:24.500Well, hello, everyone. Good evening, everyone. Good afternoon.
00:01:49.060I am joined here by Celine Gallas, a Rebel News reporter from Alberta.
00:01:55.140I'm doing really fantastic. I left this morning in a blizzard, and I came to Ottawa, and it's like plus 15 degrees, so it's one good thing in Ottawa right now.
00:02:02.880The great corrupt liberal city of Ottawa. You know, the architecture is beautiful here, but the people, not quite the same.
00:02:08.300If you want to let us know your thoughts throughout the live stream, you can always go on Rumble or Odyssey, send us paid chats, and we will do our best to read it on air at the end of the live stream.
00:02:17.620Later on, we will have Freedom Convoy volunteer, not quite organizer, participant, public persona, Tom Murato coming on.
00:02:26.460And we will also have leader of the Ontario Party here in Ontario, Derek Sloan, come on as well to discuss the emergency act inquiry and everything that has happened today.
00:02:36.240Also, just so that you guys know, on November 19th and November 25th, we will have Rebel News Live events in both Toronto and Calgary.
00:02:47.160And in the Toronto event, I believe that we will have Tamara Leash participate as a speaker, so you will be able to hear from the great Tamara Leash Convoy organizer Tamara Leash as well.
00:03:00.920So, Celine, this was your first day in Ottawa. What was your main takeaway from today?
00:03:06.240Well, again, besides the weather, it's just really interesting to see. There's some protesters that have started to show up outside of where the emergency commission is being held here in Ottawa.
00:03:16.740I can only imagine that where there are one, there will be many more to follow, so that'll be interesting.
00:03:21.440I really thought that it was very interesting what Tom Murato screamed for all the people in the back, what we're thinking for the last three years, but when he actually refused to talk to mainstream media, that was really interesting.
00:03:34.760I believe we have one of those clips as well. But again, that's something that a lot of people have been saying, and it's nice to have people publicly refuting or refusing to speak with mainstream media.
00:03:45.620Yeah, I think we've heard both Chris Barber, one of the organizers of the Freedom Convoy, and Tom Murato as well in both of their testimony discuss the way that they see mainstream media has manipulated the narrative, has vilified the Freedom Convoy.
00:04:00.500I think that's the reason why people were so upset on mainstream media, because they weren't giving them a fair share.
00:04:06.640Well, exactly. We're vilifying the people participating in the Freedom Convoy. We can see on the screen right here, Tom Murato refusing to take a question from one of the mainstream media reporters earlier today.
00:04:17.160So today, just a reminder, we had Freedom Convoy lawyer Keith Wilson testify in front of the commission.
00:04:23.820We also had Freedom Convoyer Tom Murato testify as well. And we had Pat King who ended the day.
00:04:29.700I think he might still be giving his testimony, King, at the moment. That is very possible.
00:04:35.220Cool. So, Celine, you've been following also, I think that you've been following the, not the convoy, the emergency second inquiry for the past weeks as well, for the past three weeks.
00:04:44.100I've been along in three weeks. We always talk about what we're seeing throughout the inquiry. We also talk about our takeaway from the inquiry. What was your takeaway from the past three weeks?
00:04:54.700Well, as some of you might know, I was actually there when the convoy first arrived in Ottawa.
00:04:59.880I showed up the night, the same, the same night that the truck started to pile in around the parliament building and down Wellington.
00:05:05.560And from that point onward until the police came and crashed it, it was peaceful.
00:05:10.940So my main takeaway from the Emergencies Act inquiry is that, again, there's a lot of discussion around even what they're calling the protesters.
00:05:19.800If they're protesters, you know, if they're, if they're racist, if they're misogynist, if they're sexist, then the narratives just keeps on changing.
00:05:27.420And when you see so many inconsistencies with stuff like this, I think it's fairly obvious that it's, it's a coverup that's going on.
00:05:35.180That's my opinion, at least, that I believe that it's a coverup.
00:05:37.640And there's no way that you can actually, with all of the proof, all the videos from the very beginning, since those trucks got there to the very end, no one can tell me that they were anything except peaceful.
00:05:49.560100%. You were also part of the Freedom Convoy.
00:05:51.860And you, we heard, as you just mentioned, Paul Champ, a lawyer that's, that keeps arguing about how non-peaceful, about how threatening the Freedom Convoy people were.
00:06:03.140We heard Zexy Lee say that the people, the people that were part of the Freedom Convoy were harassing citizens, even though we learned that the whole, the own citizens of Ottawa who were opposing the Freedom Convoy were throwing eggs.
00:06:18.100Is what you're hearing right now from the testimonies of these anti-convoy people, what you, the same thing as you've witnessed as a journalist in Ottawa?
00:06:34.000I left before things, before the police started to really, like, pile in there and, like, crack down on the peaceful protesters.
00:06:42.080So, I just saw the very beginning where everyone was still in, very much in a state of awe.
00:06:48.040And it was the first time that you saw so many people smiling together, laughing, being married, cheering.
00:06:53.820That was kind of, that was the norm that people were looking for.
00:06:57.180So, when you have people like Zexy Lee, who are testifying and trying to validate throwing eggs at trucks and at protesters because there was honking or, like, microaggressions and people were being offended.
00:07:16.960And we've seen there's, there's a single counter-protester.
00:07:19.400Well, a protester, actually, that's been here for the past, for the past few days in front of the commission building that's been calling the truckers, the Freedom Convoy people, terrorists, that's been calling them racist, that's been calling them far-right lunatics.
00:07:33.180We see her right here, and not a single supporter of the Freedom Convoy has laid a finger on her.
00:07:41.040Something like that would have happened.
00:07:43.300And we have yet to see any violence that's been inflicted, that's been put on this woman for protesting, Tamara Leach, protesting Tom Maratso, protesting the Freedom Convoy people.
00:07:53.120Well, especially, like, think about how Antifa was brought into this as well, right?
00:07:56.760So you had aggressors in the crowd that were trying to pretend that they were part of the freedom movement as these peaceful protesters.
00:08:04.240And you could see, even I remember being there when so many people would take interviews from Mocha and myself or Alexa LaVoie or Lincoln Jay, anyone from Rebel or actual independent media.
00:08:16.040But you had people with huge cameras going and standing behind, like, police lines, casting this very ominous shadow over this crowd, making it look very dangerous.
00:08:25.060And that is not a part of the narrative that the people there, like, actually saw, listened to.
00:08:31.620That's not what they're portrayed as, because the mainstream media is very, very good at taking those angles and making sure that the truth is smooth.
00:08:40.840Well, I think that's one of the reasons why Tom Maratso refused to answer questions from mainstream media.
00:08:48.320No, we've got some great guests that are about to come on in a few minutes.
00:08:52.040So just tell us a bit more, one last thing.
00:08:54.180Tell us a bit more about what you're going to do here in Ottawa, what you plan on doing for the next three weeks.
00:08:58.540Yeah, so I'm going to be here to live tweet the court proceedings, just as you've seen many of the Rebel journalists have been doing.
00:09:04.520And beyond that, I'll be here to scrum some of the people that are testifying as well, alongside William here.
00:09:11.540I know he's really got a hold on that, but I definitely want a piece of the action.
00:09:16.160And also grant a little bit of a Western perspective, because someone obviously born and raised in the West and from so many people of the, like, seeing so many members of the freedom movement, the convoy, come up from the West Coast all the way to the East to be a part of this.
00:09:30.780I think that's a really interesting perspective to hold those comparisons.
00:09:42.180All right, let's take a short break, and then when we come on, we will have Tom Morazzo join us to talk about his testimony.
00:09:51.580Freedom in 2022 is not sitting idly by while health diktats with no skin in the game make up all the rules.
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00:12:31.680I did participate in the convoy in January and February.
00:12:35.140And I was summonsed or subpoenaed to come here and testify at the Public Order Emergency Commission, which is where I've been for the last couple of weeks since it started.
00:12:47.260We're on, I think, day 15 of all the testimony.
00:12:51.860And I'm just here with the lawyers and some of the other witnesses, Tamara Leach and Chris Barber.
00:12:58.320And we're just assisting the legal team with a lot of the fine detail for when other people testify.
00:13:07.000We can fill in a lot of the blanks that maybe our lawyers don't have.
00:13:11.860And then my part-time gig is I come on here most nights.
00:13:17.340Usually I'm the one that's better dressed between both of us, but say you're the one who's overdressing.
00:13:21.640I would have been upset if you didn't mention at least the tie with a proper shirt.
00:13:35.100So, you know, the clip that we saw earlier, the first clip that we looked at right before you came on, was a clip from the scrum that you did after the commission, right after the commission, after your testimony with the media.
00:14:09.920I noticed things that I never before believed that I would see in Canada related to the way the police and bylaw and the government were going after Canadians.
00:14:23.980And for the first time in my life, I was, you know, actually afraid of police.
00:14:28.820And I have several friends that are police officers.
00:14:31.680And I had a phone call with Randy Hillier one day.
00:15:02.200And I think for me, that kind of flipped a switch where I was like, I went from thinking, I'm afraid to get arrested or beaten by the police or getting an $880 fine to, you know what, now I want the fine.
00:15:20.080I'm not going to hide from these people anymore.
00:15:24.000And so that started to mentally transition the way I thought.
00:15:27.120And then we came to a point where I thought, well, at some point, the lawyers are going to step in and intervene and start protecting the public.
00:15:37.700Then when the COVID, the vaccine came out, I thought, well, the medical community is going to stand up and put a stop to this because of informed consent.
00:17:02.540And the horror stories that I heard over and over and over while campaigning were very reflective of the things that I was seeing.
00:17:11.740In fact, I was watching Rebel Media long before I was involved in the Convoy.
00:17:18.860My actual source of good, unedited information was coming from Rebel and a few other alternative media sources.
00:17:28.160I knew I couldn't trust the mainstream media, but what I was seeing was how I was feeling.
00:17:36.020And, you know, it just, it's really heartbreaking to acknowledge that that is the reality in this country.
00:17:46.520And that is all thanks to both the legacy media and the government of Canada and every political party, every level of government in this country.
00:17:57.040As someone who's serving the army, is that something that you were expecting to see from your government, I don't think?
00:18:55.040And I think that when the veterans or the police take a stand of this magnitude or this importance,
00:19:05.200I think it is a – I think the public takes special notice of that.
00:19:11.780It is the role of a soldier to fight if called.
00:19:18.540And there's something called informed consent where – or sorry, not informed consent, unlimited liability that is exclusive to being a military soldier.
00:19:32.140And when you live by unlimited liability, that means that you could be ordered to your certain death in combat.
00:19:43.540So when the people that are willing to lay down their lives, literally, are stepping out of the norms and speaking up,
00:19:51.720I think the public should take notice of that.
00:19:53.500But unfortunately, because of the mainstream media, what we often get called is traitors and insurrectionists.
00:21:09.000You know, and that's something that, as a soldier, you accept the fact that people will have the right to say certain disgusting things right to your face no matter what.
00:21:18.660That's the foundation of Western civilization.
00:21:20.860Another interesting thing that you also touched on during your testimony, and we can see this on that clip 10, was your personal experience in regards to government freezing bank accounts of Canadians.
00:21:36.920And were you given any information, either from the bank or from the police, as to how your bank accounts could be reopened?
00:21:50.720I was never notified that my bank accounts had been frozen, and I was never notified that they would be, and I was never notified that they were reinstated at no time.
00:22:03.520So did you just find out that they were frozen because you could no longer use your cards?
00:22:08.980Could no longer access any of our financial assets at all.
00:22:16.120And I think in addition to this clip, there's also part of your testimony when you talk about your family having their bank account frozen deeper in length.
00:22:38.500That we now live in a society where if you step in line with what the federal government believes, they will just shut you off.
00:22:49.460You know, and Derek Sloan and I, and, you know, when we were campaigning, actually, and I'm bringing this up because I know Derek is on after and he can speak to this as well.
00:23:01.520But we were adamantly against the digital ID and a cashless society for exactly these reasons.
00:23:11.880Because when my bank accounts were frozen, my credit card that was on file with my son's drugstore, we could not get his heart medication, right?
00:23:22.020What did my son do that now put his life in jeopardy?
00:23:28.780And the government of Canada, without any consideration to the second and third order effects of people's lives, you know, we heard other testimony, I think, from Bridget, that she struggled.
00:23:40.820She couldn't get her husband's diabetes medication, if I'm remembering that correctly.
00:23:47.060So, you know, they didn't give any consideration to the second, third order effects of what they were doing.
00:23:56.160And then you see Chrystia Freeland just giggling away like Philip the Goat from Diaglon, you know, when she's talking about how she's freezing financial assets.
00:25:07.740I mean, this is – it got brought up in my testimony as well today because it was brought up in the House of Commons during the invocation when they were debating.
00:25:17.200The liberals were actually debating and saying that this was a terrorist organization and that it was correct to use the Emergency Act because of Diaglon, a meme, a social media meme, a joke.
00:25:30.860This is the world we live in under Justin Trudeau right now.
00:25:37.120Let's go to a quick ad break and then when we come back and talk about your views of mainstream media and what you said about mainstream media, both in the inquiry and then afterwards during the quick scrum that we're able to have with you.
00:25:48.960Freedom in 2022 is certainly about being able to make free choices for ourselves and for our family, who we believe are the best.
00:26:01.280We have seen so much suffering over the last two years, people who die alone in terrible condition, people losing dream jobs, polarized families and a society that insult and yell at each other for making a different medical choice.
00:26:18.420But people have risen and it will be true to them that the future will have an important meaning for all of you, but especially for the next generation.
00:26:29.700Rebend News has been present at every step of this great challenge, but so many other pioneers whom you could meet and hear at our great conference about freedom for our beautiful country, which is Canada.
00:26:45.760This conference, which will be held in Calgary and Toronto, will show you the faces of the influence of freedom that you have seen over the past two years.
00:27:39.080No, before we start, why don't we throw it to one of your clips, clip number eight, where we can see you in the inquiry talk about your views in regards to intermedia.
00:27:53.340Did you take any steps to clarify what you meant with the media outlets who were reporting that the protesters wanted to form a coalition government?
00:28:03.080No, I was not in charge of direct contact.
00:28:10.760I had no direct contact with the media.
00:28:12.560And as far as I was concerned, my belief was if they actually started to do their job and report fairly, we would reward them with contact or I would or whatever, not necessarily me.
00:28:24.320But if they continued down the path of constantly vilifying and lying about us, I didn't see the point really of talking to them at all.
00:28:33.360We were effective, highly effective at getting out everything we wanted to get out to the public through alternative and social media.
00:28:41.560So you didn't make any efforts to go to the reporters who had reported a different interpretation and say, that's wrong, can you please fix it?
00:28:57.440And they never reached out to talk to me from my knowledge either.
00:29:02.680You know, I can assure you from someone who was in the video room while you were saying it, the vibe wasn't the same as it was right before that.
00:29:13.860They lie and they have been doing nothing but lie since the pandemic began.
00:29:20.680And I think they probably were part of the lie before the first lockdowns started.
00:29:25.820And they just continue to perpetuate all of Justin Trudeau's lies.
00:29:32.080They do not report in a balanced, transparent manner.
00:29:36.840They don't go and get stories of even the doctors or even lawyers or nurses that had a counter-opinion to the official government or ministry of truth beliefs.
00:29:52.320And so I just, after all this time, I am not going to ever give them a soundbite.
00:29:59.360And I had an issue, too, when James Topp, myself, and Paul Alexander, Dr. Alexander, met with – you were there.
00:30:19.920And they chopped it up and created their own little narrative around soundbites.
00:30:27.180And so I just don't want to give them any soundbites whatsoever that they're going to chop up.
00:30:32.140And I have no doubt now that they'll take even my little passing comment when I walked by and said they're liars.
00:30:37.540They'll chop that up into something disgusting like they typically do.
00:30:41.520So as far as I'm concerned, they're just doing – they're the biggest megaphone for Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh and all these people that are perpetuating lies.
00:33:43.460Can you elaborate on what exactly you meant by that?
00:33:45.740Yeah, and I talked about it in the testimony today where, you know, they vilified people or vilified the comments that I made for basically saying that I wanted to form a government to be part of a government.
00:33:59.900That was not the intent of those comments.
00:34:02.320They never retracted it after we did the updated statement saying we wanted nothing to do with the internal workings of the government.
00:34:19.580So you weren't an organizer at the beginning, but you were also only a spokesperson, as you said, for two days.
00:34:24.680So why were you testifying on the stand today in the inquiry?
00:34:29.260I was summoned to be here, like all the other witnesses.
00:34:32.700And last question for me, do you think there's ever a way that our country can recover from the damage that was done from the politicians and the police in the past two years?
00:34:48.680They have no power because of the legacy media constantly lies and misrepresents everything that has been going on for two years.
00:34:59.040And I think the media is when the media decides to be on the side of the people, then I think you'll get some change.
00:35:06.580But right now, they're on the side of the government who constantly lies.
00:35:11.020If Justin Trudeau or representatives of the federal government had met with you, what would your response have been or those of your colleagues?
00:35:18.200I would have clearly articulated why these mandates we believed were unjustified, immoral, illegal,
00:35:25.660and that Canadians had spoken and sent us to Ottawa to deliver that message and come up with a way to remove the mandates and then plot a way forward.
00:35:39.100If they heard that message but didn't change policy, would that be enough for the protests to have said mission accomplished and go home in your view?
00:35:47.640No, the objective was to get rid of all federal mandates.
00:35:50.920And leadership starts at the top, so if Justin Trudeau had decided to do the right thing, the right moral thing,
00:35:57.040and to listen to the wishes of Canadians, then maybe the premiers would have found their moral courage as well
00:36:05.240and started listening to people in this country.
00:36:08.620Because two and a half or two years prior to the convoy, Canadians were protesting all over this country
00:36:15.520and not one single politician heard those concerns.
00:36:18.020Can you talk about the relationship with the police services on the ground?
00:36:35.960You know, in a certain way, I feel like that was a liberal politician moment.
00:36:39.060That's why we're being told all the time, we're done to work.
00:36:41.360Who are you with? Rebel News, ah, that's not enough.
00:36:43.340Those people aren't used to being told no.
00:36:45.980Yeah, and there's a big part of me that felt a little, you know, a moment of satisfaction walking away.
00:36:57.500Because, you know, they want to take the soundbite, chop it up, and make it into something ugly.
00:37:03.920And I just don't want to play that game with them.
00:37:06.460For as long as alternative media is allowed to continue and allowed to keep telling the truth, that is, you know, that's going to be a direct threat to the government in the competition.
00:37:23.260I think that's the genesis of Bill C-11.
00:37:25.680It's not about keeping the internet safe from hate.
00:37:29.540It's about keeping absolute dominant control over what Canadian citizens get to digest and consume, really, from the media.
00:37:40.040The message is going to be controlled directly from the government of Canada, the Ministry of Truth.
00:37:45.340It is not going to be, you're not going to have the ability to do research.
00:37:50.680I mean, I would, if I was people, I'd be out there running, getting stocks and VPN companies right now.
00:38:03.540You seem to have this little competition, this little clash, little hatred towards mainstream media right now.
00:38:08.020Do you think it's ever going to be resolved?
00:38:09.320No, I think we need to defund the CBC and every media outlet that gets money from the government.
00:38:20.280And, you know, the CRTC has a lot of explaining to do to the public because really the CRTC was put into place because there was limited airwaves for the legacy media to get different portions of it.
00:38:35.540That's not the case with the internet anymore.
00:38:37.300And so CRTC has become irrelevant, but they've had to reinvent themselves as, you know, the gatekeepers of the internet now.
00:38:49.740And I just don't think that we need it.
00:38:52.680And I think the market is going to punish legacy media with their behavior anyway.
00:38:59.260So that's a bit of a risk to us because as they get less viewership, the government's going to get more creative in making sure that we find a way to consume their garbage.
00:39:41.160Freedom in 2022 is not sitting idly by while health diktats with no skin in the game make up all the rules.
00:39:53.000If you're like me and want to play an active role in upholding civil liberties and freedoms for all Canadians, for our children, and eventually our grandchildren, then come out to our Rebel Live event and get to know us in person.
00:40:07.580We'll hearing from some of the most influential leaders in the freedom movement.
00:40:14.300We have events in Toronto on November the 19th and in Calgary on Saturday, November 26th.
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00:41:16.180Well, obviously, I've been watching it through the news and in other ways.
00:41:19.600But today, a very good friend of mine, Tom Marazzo, was testifying.
00:41:23.700I wanted to be here to support Tom in person and obviously, you know, say hi to the other people who were there, along with, you know, Tamara Litch and Chris Barber and people like that.
00:41:35.820So, it was a good day and some interesting testimony.
00:41:57.480I mean, I believe my goal is to rejuvenate politics in Canada at every level.
00:42:03.960And I may not be able to, you know, be a participant in every way in Canada in that, but I like to support people who are trying to make a change.
00:42:59.300I would say from my impression that the inquiry is being run in a fairly fair manner in the sense that it feels like they're letting everybody say their piece.
00:43:09.880And a lot of very, you know, really bombshell information is coming out.
00:43:14.480And it's really painting the liberals in a bad light.
00:43:17.800It's painting the whole invocation of the Emergencies Act, you know, again, as unnecessary.
00:44:01.480Some great stuff came out of that testimony.
00:44:03.260So basically, you know, again, I didn't, so I read news, a news summary about what he said.
00:44:10.520But what I understand he did in part was to basically blame the media for sensationalizing the news that was coming out about the truckers convo.
00:44:18.820And he basically said, listen, there wasn't any real evidence of any, you know, extremism or violence.
00:44:24.160And the media had a part to play in, you know, blowing this way out of proportion.
00:44:29.180And I think that that's, you know, something that we, you know, we all would have known that before.
00:44:34.300But it's great to have somebody on the record testifying to that.
00:44:41.120So for our viewers at home that haven't really been following the commission, I think it would be great to show one of the clips from Keith Wilson, clip number two, talk about the truckers that arrived in Ottawa and their intent when arriving in the capital of the country.
00:44:58.940Not, was never just to move up to Wellington.
00:45:02.100It was always recognized that probably only 25% of the vehicles could go to Wellington.
00:45:07.100The more dominant theme of the plan was for the vehicles to move to the remote locations at Embrom, Exit 88 and Armprior and to have expand the shuttle buses that were already running.
00:45:24.020And there was also, this is a very important point, and I don't know that it's come out yet, is a lot of people who were there, the truckers, never planned to stay that long.
00:45:34.660But the Canadians they met along the way, and the stories and the heartache that they heard, and the trust and plea that they heard from those people.
00:45:49.120Many of the truckers I talked to felt this obligation to stay as long as they could, but they also needed a way to leave gracefully and respectfully.
00:45:57.760And one of the things we recognized was that if 75% of the vehicles were going to be given an opportunity to leave and go either to Embrom or Armprior, that some would actually use it as an opportunity to go home and do so respectfully.
00:46:14.980So that was an important part of the plan.
00:46:16.460Is that what you've been able to notice during your time here in Ottawa, during the Freedom Convoy?
00:46:23.600Oh, just that it was a respectful protest and things like this?
00:46:26.580Well, that was respectful. People weren't planning on staying for a long run.
00:46:28.940However, they did decide to stay for a long run after seeing the issues that were at stake and the civil liberties that were basically fighting for.
00:46:35.140Yeah. So my impression of the trucker convoy is that it was, again, a very organic movement that really materialized, not because of the leadership of any one person or group of people, but just because of Canadians sort of having enough and being fed up with what was going on in the government.
00:46:50.760I think that when the convoy started taking on a life of its own from the beginning in terms of adding more and more trucks to the convoy as it was coming from different areas of the country.
00:47:03.260And I think when people got here, I mean, one thing I noted when I was here is that the atmosphere was just so peaceful, even though it was almost 30 degrees below zero.
00:47:15.280It was almost like it was a mixture between like a family reunion and like a festival.
00:47:22.040And I think people just really were so proud to see so many people like them across the country.
00:47:27.700They were so glad to see, you know, Canadians rallying together that it just continued to evolve into what it became.
00:47:37.440Yeah. And, you know, while we're seeing it on the screen, I want to give you some time to address it in your view.
00:47:43.220We saw a few pictures only of a Swastika flag being flown the whole time.
00:48:13.640I mean, I remember one headline in the Toronto Star saying something along the lines of, you know, the trucker rally is white supremacism in all its glory.
00:48:39.460You know, this particular flag that was shown in the media, which I believe was taken in some corridor beside the Hotel, the Chateau Laurier.
00:48:53.160I believe that that, again, I mean, that's not where the major, that's not where, you know, the majority of people were.
00:49:02.940Maybe, you know, maybe somebody was there just to discredit the movement, right?
00:49:06.600I mean, you know, nothing's to stop anyone who's opposed to the truckers movement from coming and doing things that are discreditable.
00:49:14.340And we've seen that in other situations where you have, you know, left-wing groups or other kind of groups that come in and try to discredit legitimate protests.
00:49:22.580So it could very well have been that, and it probably was.
00:49:24.860Yeah, I think I agree with you because one of the things that Andrew Lawson touched on when he came on the live stream a few days ago,
00:49:30.360he touched on the fact that he learned that the cameraman who was following those two guys holding Sustika and Nazi flight was Justin Trudeau's cameraman.
00:50:42.960I think in my experience, almost, you know, anybody who has an Eastern European background
00:50:47.960or any experience with living in the Eastern Bloc has really, you know, the light bulb has sort of come on during COVID.
00:50:54.400And a lot of these people see similarities with sort of what the government has done during COVID-19,
00:50:59.380especially, you know, how they responded to their freedom convoy and other things as being exactly the types of things that they saw and experienced under communism.
00:51:08.360So I think these are lessons that we all need to consider.
00:51:12.120And it's good to see that so many people are waking up.
00:51:27.720I mean, it's an interesting legal argument they're using.
00:51:29.820I mean, the political reason why is they don't want to lose face for what happened behind the scenes.
00:51:36.300I mean, it's very clear that Doug Ford and his brother, Rob Ford, when he was alive, they were, you know, behind the blue collar guy.
00:51:44.420They were into, you know, truckers and that kind of thing.
00:51:46.680And Doug Ford threw them under the bus.
00:51:48.880And I don't think he is proud of that moment in his life.
00:51:52.620And I don't think he wants whatever deliberations went back and forth between himself and Justin Trudeau and others to be brought out into the light of day.
00:52:01.580And so regardless of the legal arguments that they're making, I hope that he is compelled to testify.
00:52:07.160And I hope that the truth of this comes out.
00:52:10.160Do you think he's running under the name of his brother?
00:52:13.020You know, he uses four-nation a lot, which is a term that his brother used.
00:53:48.480You know, they're they're certainly paid better than many other places around the world.
00:53:52.800And they always they always want more.
00:53:54.860So, you know, whether they should have gone this route or whether it could have been, you know, dealt with in another way, I don't know.
00:54:03.320But listen, kids need to go to school.
00:54:06.020The fact that they're trying to walk out right now, you know, they're asking for I forget it was at 11 percent to pay increase or something like that.
00:54:16.000And frankly, you know, we live in an environment right now where everybody is needing, you know, the cost of living is going up for everybody.
00:54:23.020Not many people are getting massive raises right now.
00:54:26.860And I think the public service needs to needs to needs to remember that.
00:54:30.820I mean, they're they're free to, you know, start their own business or take another career if it pays more.
00:54:36.640But we can't be expecting the government to up the ante all the time when it comes to things like this.
00:54:41.600Yeah. One of the things I find pretty funny is here's Stephen Leach, the minister, well, the minister for for education.
00:54:48.480Talk about the need for children to go back to school.
00:54:51.260We need to send our children back to school.
00:54:59.940I mean, it appears to one degree or another that, you know, the PCs have grown a pair or at least are doing some things that are a little bit.
00:55:09.640But, you know, we have to remember, you know, the government that we're talking about here, you know, legislate, you know, making sure that the schools stay open.
00:56:26.900And and we'll see what we'll see what they can draw.
00:56:30.880I mean, it's clear that the government's approach is to try and tie this memorandum of understanding to an actual attempt to overthrow the government.
00:56:40.280They're also trying to, you know, connect this particular group to racism.
00:56:45.540And they're doing a pretty poor job of that.
00:56:47.460I mean, the memorandum of understanding is very clearly, you know, whimsical document drawn up by people who, you know, don't really maybe understand exactly how things work here.
00:56:56.920But it was not in any way a legitimate attempt to have, you know, some kind of a violent overthrow of the Canadian government.
00:57:05.100Yeah, I think that's what we're seeing right now.
00:57:06.460I think that's what the inquiry is revealing.
00:57:10.120You know, I have a couple of friends that were opposed to the convoy while they were here in Ottawa that were in favor of the emergency's act of the emergency's act.
00:57:17.280And then after listening to the inquiry, they're starting to switch their position because they're seeing that there was no such thing as an emergency during the convoy.
00:57:26.180There was no need to trample the civil liberties of protesters.
00:57:29.640There was no need to have an authoritarian never seen before act and vote on peaceful protesters.
00:57:34.980I think people are actually seeing it.
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