Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 15 ｜ Ft. Tom Marazzo & Derek Sloan

00:00:00.000 Freedom in 2022 is certainly about being able to make free choices for ourselves and for our family, who we believe are the best.

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00:01:24.500 Well, hello, everyone. Good evening, everyone. Good afternoon.

00:01:49.060 I am joined here by Celine Gallas, a Rebel News reporter from Alberta.

00:01:53.900 Celine, how are you doing?

00:01:55.140 I'm doing really fantastic. I left this morning in a blizzard, and I came to Ottawa, and it's like plus 15 degrees, so it's one good thing in Ottawa right now.

00:02:02.880 The great corrupt liberal city of Ottawa. You know, the architecture is beautiful here, but the people, not quite the same.

00:02:08.300 If you want to let us know your thoughts throughout the live stream, you can always go on Rumble or Odyssey, send us paid chats, and we will do our best to read it on air at the end of the live stream.

00:02:17.620 Later on, we will have Freedom Convoy volunteer, not quite organizer, participant, public persona, Tom Murato coming on.

00:02:26.460 And we will also have leader of the Ontario Party here in Ontario, Derek Sloan, come on as well to discuss the emergency act inquiry and everything that has happened today.

00:02:36.240 Also, just so that you guys know, on November 19th and November 25th, we will have Rebel News Live events in both Toronto and Calgary.

00:02:47.160 And in the Toronto event, I believe that we will have Tamara Leash participate as a speaker, so you will be able to hear from the great Tamara Leash Convoy organizer Tamara Leash as well.

00:03:00.920 So, Celine, this was your first day in Ottawa. What was your main takeaway from today?

00:03:06.240 Well, again, besides the weather, it's just really interesting to see. There's some protesters that have started to show up outside of where the emergency commission is being held here in Ottawa.

00:03:16.740 I can only imagine that where there are one, there will be many more to follow, so that'll be interesting.

00:03:21.440 I really thought that it was very interesting what Tom Murato screamed for all the people in the back, what we're thinking for the last three years, but when he actually refused to talk to mainstream media, that was really interesting.

00:03:34.760 I believe we have one of those clips as well. But again, that's something that a lot of people have been saying, and it's nice to have people publicly refuting or refusing to speak with mainstream media.

00:03:45.620 Yeah, I think we've heard both Chris Barber, one of the organizers of the Freedom Convoy, and Tom Murato as well in both of their testimony discuss the way that they see mainstream media has manipulated the narrative, has vilified the Freedom Convoy.

00:04:00.500 I think that's the reason why people were so upset on mainstream media, because they weren't giving them a fair share.

00:04:05.700 They weren't portrayed correctly.

00:04:06.640 Well, exactly. We're vilifying the people participating in the Freedom Convoy. We can see on the screen right here, Tom Murato refusing to take a question from one of the mainstream media reporters earlier today.

00:04:17.160 So today, just a reminder, we had Freedom Convoy lawyer Keith Wilson testify in front of the commission.

00:04:23.820 We also had Freedom Convoyer Tom Murato testify as well. And we had Pat King who ended the day.

00:04:29.700 I think he might still be giving his testimony, King, at the moment. That is very possible.

00:04:35.220 Cool. So, Celine, you've been following also, I think that you've been following the, not the convoy, the emergency second inquiry for the past weeks as well, for the past three weeks.

00:04:43.480 Yeah, I agree. That's right.

00:04:44.100 I've been along in three weeks. We always talk about what we're seeing throughout the inquiry. We also talk about our takeaway from the inquiry. What was your takeaway from the past three weeks?

00:04:54.700 Well, as some of you might know, I was actually there when the convoy first arrived in Ottawa.

00:04:59.880 I showed up the night, the same, the same night that the truck started to pile in around the parliament building and down Wellington.

00:05:05.560 And from that point onward until the police came and crashed it, it was peaceful.

00:05:10.940 So my main takeaway from the Emergencies Act inquiry is that, again, there's a lot of discussion around even what they're calling the protesters.

00:05:19.800 If they're protesters, you know, if they're, if they're racist, if they're misogynist, if they're sexist, then the narratives just keeps on changing.

00:05:27.420 And when you see so many inconsistencies with stuff like this, I think it's fairly obvious that it's, it's a coverup that's going on.

00:05:35.180 That's my opinion, at least, that I believe that it's a coverup.

00:05:37.640 And there's no way that you can actually, with all of the proof, all the videos from the very beginning, since those trucks got there to the very end, no one can tell me that they were anything except peaceful.

00:05:49.560 100%. You were also part of the Freedom Convoy.

00:05:51.860 And you, we heard, as you just mentioned, Paul Champ, a lawyer that's, that keeps arguing about how non-peaceful, about how threatening the Freedom Convoy people were.

00:06:03.140 We heard Zexy Lee say that the people, the people that were part of the Freedom Convoy were harassing citizens, even though we learned that the whole, the own citizens of Ottawa who were opposing the Freedom Convoy were throwing eggs.

00:06:15.360 Eggs, they're egging them, exactly.

00:06:16.760 Yeah.

00:06:16.860 We're egging the protesters.

00:06:18.100 Is what you're hearing right now from the testimonies of these anti-convoy people, what you, the same thing as you've witnessed as a journalist in Ottawa?

00:06:30.120 No, like, absolutely not.

00:06:34.000 I left before things, before the police started to really, like, pile in there and, like, crack down on the peaceful protesters.

00:06:42.080 So, I just saw the very beginning where everyone was still in, very much in a state of awe.

00:06:48.040 And it was the first time that you saw so many people smiling together, laughing, being married, cheering.

00:06:53.820 That was kind of, that was the norm that people were looking for.

00:06:57.180 So, when you have people like Zexy Lee, who are testifying and trying to validate throwing eggs at trucks and at protesters because there was honking or, like, microaggressions and people were being offended.

00:07:10.360 Um, it's very interesting.

00:07:13.060 Like, how can you validate something like that?

00:07:14.860 What do you think?

00:07:15.580 Yeah, well, it's so crazy.

00:07:16.960 And we've seen there's, there's a single counter-protester.

00:07:19.400 Well, a protester, actually, that's been here for the past, for the past few days in front of the commission building that's been calling the truckers, the Freedom Convoy people, terrorists, that's been calling them racist, that's been calling them far-right lunatics.

00:07:33.180 We see her right here, and not a single supporter of the Freedom Convoy has laid a finger on her.

00:07:39.040 I think they were re-terrorists.

00:07:41.040 Something like that would have happened.

00:07:43.300 And we have yet to see any violence that's been inflicted, that's been put on this woman for protesting, Tamara Leach, protesting Tom Maratso, protesting the Freedom Convoy people.

00:07:52.740 Yeah.

00:07:53.120 Well, especially, like, think about how Antifa was brought into this as well, right?

00:07:56.760 So you had aggressors in the crowd that were trying to pretend that they were part of the freedom movement as these peaceful protesters.

00:08:04.240 And you could see, even I remember being there when so many people would take interviews from Mocha and myself or Alexa LaVoie or Lincoln Jay, anyone from Rebel or actual independent media.

00:08:16.040 But you had people with huge cameras going and standing behind, like, police lines, casting this very ominous shadow over this crowd, making it look very dangerous.

00:08:25.060 And that is not a part of the narrative that the people there, like, actually saw, listened to.

00:08:31.620 That's not what they're portrayed as, because the mainstream media is very, very good at taking those angles and making sure that the truth is smooth.

00:08:40.840 Well, I think that's one of the reasons why Tom Maratso refused to answer questions from mainstream media.

00:08:46.360 I think that's the reason why.

00:08:47.500 I would think so.

00:08:48.320 No, we've got some great guests that are about to come on in a few minutes.

00:08:52.040 So just tell us a bit more, one last thing.

00:08:54.180 Tell us a bit more about what you're going to do here in Ottawa, what you plan on doing for the next three weeks.

00:08:58.540 Yeah, so I'm going to be here to live tweet the court proceedings, just as you've seen many of the Rebel journalists have been doing.

00:09:04.520 And beyond that, I'll be here to scrum some of the people that are testifying as well, alongside William here.

00:09:11.540 I know he's really got a hold on that, but I definitely want a piece of the action.

00:09:16.160 And also grant a little bit of a Western perspective, because someone obviously born and raised in the West and from so many people of the, like, seeing so many members of the freedom movement, the convoy, come up from the West Coast all the way to the East to be a part of this.

00:09:30.780 I think that's a really interesting perspective to hold those comparisons.

00:09:35.020 Yeah.

00:09:35.520 Yeah, it was definitely a big movement.

00:09:36.900 Well, thanks for coming on, and I truly look forward to working with you in the next few days, next few weeks.

00:09:41.480 Absolutely.

00:09:42.180 All right, let's take a short break, and then when we come on, we will have Tom Morazzo join us to talk about his testimony.

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00:10:42.240 Oh, Tom, we heard from a fringe number of witnesses from the past few weeks that they saw a very good job.

00:11:12.220 There was a lot of violence throughout the convoy.

00:11:14.200 Did you see that yourself?

00:11:15.380 Do you think that represents the essence of the movement?

00:11:17.780 I saw a lot of violence on the 18th and 19th of February, and it was all from the police.

00:11:23.740 That's all.

00:11:24.720 What are your thoughts on Jeremy McKenzie?

00:11:26.420 You spoke about him a little bit earlier.

00:11:27.880 Can you elaborate on what you think of his views?

00:11:29.860 Jeremy has got a lot of controversial things that he says.

00:11:34.340 Some things are great.

00:11:35.320 Some things I disagree with fundamentally.

00:11:38.560 But he's an entertainer.

00:11:40.900 Like it or not, he says things that are controversial.

00:11:45.720 And that's what entertainment is about.

00:11:47.760 You can tune in or turn it off if you want to.

00:11:51.540 You also said the media wrongfully represented your position during the convoy, wrongfully represented frame convoy.

00:11:58.080 Can you elaborate on what exactly?

00:12:02.320 Well, it was great to have you on, Tom.

00:12:04.620 How are you doing?

00:12:05.540 I'm good.

00:12:06.080 I feel like I've just written my final exams for the school year.

00:12:10.820 So Tom Rosso was one of the witnesses to testify earlier during the commission.

00:12:15.180 And I think it's been probably five live streams since we didn't have you on.

00:12:19.600 So can you explain who you are?

00:12:21.620 Can we tell our viewers a little bit about your background, who you are, what you're doing here in Ottawa?

00:12:26.660 Well, I only have 40 minutes.

00:12:28.760 So I've been here.

00:12:31.680 I did participate in the convoy in January and February.

00:12:35.140 And I was summonsed or subpoenaed to come here and testify at the Public Order Emergency Commission, which is where I've been for the last couple of weeks since it started.

00:12:47.260 We're on, I think, day 15 of all the testimony.

00:12:51.860 And I'm just here with the lawyers and some of the other witnesses, Tamara Leach and Chris Barber.

00:12:58.320 And we're just assisting the legal team with a lot of the fine detail for when other people testify.

00:13:07.000 We can fill in a lot of the blanks that maybe our lawyers don't have.

00:13:11.860 And then my part-time gig is I come on here most nights.

00:13:17.340 Usually I'm the one that's better dressed between both of us, but say you're the one who's overdressing.

00:13:21.640 I would have been upset if you didn't mention at least the tie with a proper shirt.

00:13:25.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:26.160 You don't have the puppy, though, but you have a tie, you have a suit.

00:13:28.540 I've been telling you for a few weeks now.

00:13:30.840 Wear a tie, wear a tie.

00:13:32.180 First time you wear a tie.

00:13:33.340 I'm not even wearing it myself.

00:13:35.100 So, you know, the clip that we saw earlier, the first clip that we looked at right before you came on, was a clip from the scrum that you did after the commission, right after the commission, after your testimony with the media.

00:13:46.380 Not every media, as we see.

00:13:48.300 We're going to get to that a little bit later, but there's so much to unpack from your testimony, Keith's testimony, what we saw today.

00:13:54.780 Let's throw one of the clips from Tom's testimony from today.

00:14:05.240 I guess I'll take just a second.

00:14:07.880 Sure.

00:14:08.380 We can take a look at the first one.

00:14:09.920 I noticed things that I never before believed that I would see in Canada related to the way the police and bylaw and the government were going after Canadians.

00:14:23.980 And for the first time in my life, I was, you know, actually afraid of police.

00:14:28.820 And I have several friends that are police officers.

00:14:31.680 And I had a phone call with Randy Hillier one day.

00:14:34.840 And Randy didn't know who I was.

00:14:36.380 This was, I sent an email to him and Roman Babber and other people.

00:14:39.760 And months later, his office had returned the call.

00:14:42.180 And Randy doesn't even recall the conversation.

00:14:45.120 And they said, you know, I spent 25 years of my life in the military.

00:14:49.180 And for the first time, I'm actually afraid in my own country.

00:14:53.820 And he said, you know, never be afraid.

00:14:56.940 Like, you can't be afraid of the police or the government.

00:15:00.660 They're here to serve us.

00:15:02.200 And I think for me, that kind of flipped a switch where I was like, I went from thinking, I'm afraid to get arrested or beaten by the police or getting an $880 fine to, you know what, now I want the fine.

00:15:18.740 I'm done.

00:15:20.080 I'm not going to hide from these people anymore.

00:15:24.000 And so that started to mentally transition the way I thought.

00:15:27.120 And then we came to a point where I thought, well, at some point, the lawyers are going to step in and intervene and start protecting the public.

00:15:34.780 And they didn't, except for a few.

00:15:37.700 Then when the COVID, the vaccine came out, I thought, well, the medical community is going to stand up and put a stop to this because of informed consent.

00:15:46.500 And they didn't, except for a few.

00:15:49.600 And it was the truckers that gave me an opportunity to actually get into, you know, fighting for my kids' rights.

00:15:59.780 Thank you, Keith.

00:16:29.780 I became involved with the Freedom Convoy.

00:16:31.520 I think that's how a lot of Canadians are feeling.

00:16:33.580 What did you think of that?

00:16:35.520 Yeah, I learned a lot about how Canadians felt when I was campaigning with the Ontario Party.

00:16:42.880 Every day we would go to an event and we would talk to ordinary Canadians.

00:16:47.540 And the level of fear and anxiety that people felt in this country, you know, like you saw in the video,

00:16:53.580 there are things that I never, ever thought that I would experience in Canada.

00:17:00.420 And unfortunately, we did.

00:17:02.540 And the horror stories that I heard over and over and over while campaigning were very reflective of the things that I was seeing.

00:17:11.740 In fact, I was watching Rebel Media long before I was involved in the Convoy.

00:17:18.860 My actual source of good, unedited information was coming from Rebel and a few other alternative media sources.

00:17:28.160 I knew I couldn't trust the mainstream media, but what I was seeing was how I was feeling.

00:17:36.020 And, you know, it just, it's really heartbreaking to acknowledge that that is the reality in this country.

00:17:46.520 And that is all thanks to both the legacy media and the government of Canada and every political party, every level of government in this country.

00:17:57.040 As someone who's serving the army, is that something that you were expecting to see from your government, I don't think?

00:18:02.920 No, absolutely not.

00:18:05.280 If you actually, a lot of people bring up the oath all the time, you know, you're forgetting your oath.

00:18:09.340 If you actually look at the oath for, there are a couple of different ones that police give,

00:18:13.540 but for the military, you don't swear an oath to the people of Canada or the Constitution.

00:18:19.020 You actually swear an oath at the time to the Queen of England, her heirs and successors.

00:18:25.780 And so, you know, you have to be clear on why you're joining the military, obviously.

00:18:31.340 I know what was in my heart when I joined the military, and it had nothing to do with upholding a tyrannical regime.

00:18:40.620 And as far as I was concerned, I still am concerned.

00:18:44.860 That's what we have right now in this country.

00:18:47.740 Yeah.

00:18:47.820 Is that one of the reasons why you decided to join Jane Stopp and to group Veterans for Freedom and work alongside all these people?

00:18:54.640 Yeah.

00:18:55.040 And I think that when the veterans or the police take a stand of this magnitude or this importance,

00:19:05.200 I think it is a – I think the public takes special notice of that.

00:19:11.780 It is the role of a soldier to fight if called.

00:19:18.540 And there's something called informed consent where – or sorry, not informed consent, unlimited liability that is exclusive to being a military soldier.

00:19:32.140 And when you live by unlimited liability, that means that you could be ordered to your certain death in combat.

00:19:43.540 So when the people that are willing to lay down their lives, literally, are stepping out of the norms and speaking up,

00:19:51.720 I think the public should take notice of that.

00:19:53.500 But unfortunately, because of the mainstream media, what we often get called is traitors and insurrectionists.

00:20:00.840 And I think it's unfair.

00:20:01.900 I think it doesn't show a lot of evolved thinking on the part of the Canadian public overall.

00:20:07.500 But when the police and the military both stand up and say, hey, there's a problem here,

00:20:13.020 I think the public should take note of that and stop listening to the anchorman.

00:20:17.080 And, you know, you're 100% right.

00:20:20.280 Yeah, you know, we've heard a lot of people call James Stop a traitor, call yourself a traitor.

00:20:25.040 I got called the traitor on the way walking here.

00:20:27.100 Oh, yeah?

00:20:27.500 Oh, yeah.

00:20:28.100 Was it by the same lady who's been here?

00:20:29.800 The same lady in front of the commission.

00:20:31.180 You know, I always find it so incomprehensible how someone who can stand up to the rights of Canadians, 1.00

00:20:37.400 which is literally his job in a certain way, which is what he has to do as a true Canadian, as an army man.

00:20:45.520 Well, the irony is that he called the traitor.

00:20:47.320 Yeah, the irony is this, is that every soldier knows that they could end up sacrificing their life on behalf of people that hate them.

00:20:57.260 Yeah.

00:20:57.600 You know, I could have been killed in combat so that she had the right to go out there, that lady there with the… 1.00

00:21:04.580 And call you a terrorist. 0.92

00:21:05.880 Yeah, and call me a terrorist. 1.00

00:21:06.920 And scream vile things at me. 0.94

00:21:09.000 You know, and that's something that, as a soldier, you accept the fact that people will have the right to say certain disgusting things right to your face no matter what.

00:21:17.300 Well, that's freedom of speech.

00:21:18.660 That's the foundation of Western civilization.

00:21:20.860 Another interesting thing that you also touched on during your testimony, and we can see this on that clip 10, was your personal experience in regards to government freezing bank accounts of Canadians.

00:21:33.020 Can we show that clip?

00:21:34.040 It's the 10th clip in the list.

00:21:36.920 And were you given any information, either from the bank or from the police, as to how your bank accounts could be reopened?

00:21:50.720 I was never notified that my bank accounts had been frozen, and I was never notified that they would be, and I was never notified that they were reinstated at no time.

00:22:03.520 So did you just find out that they were frozen because you could no longer use your cards?

00:22:08.980 Could no longer access any of our financial assets at all.

00:22:16.120 And I think in addition to this clip, there's also part of your testimony when you talk about your family having their bank account frozen deeper in length.

00:22:26.900 Let me tell us a little bit more.

00:22:28.120 Yeah.

00:22:28.340 I mean, I think the lesson here for everybody is, what's the phrase?

00:22:34.780 Cash is king.

00:22:36.460 Oh, credit cards.

00:22:37.880 Yeah.

00:22:38.300 Yeah.

00:22:38.500 That we now live in a society where if you step in line with what the federal government believes, they will just shut you off.

00:22:49.460 You know, and Derek Sloan and I, and, you know, when we were campaigning, actually, and I'm bringing this up because I know Derek is on after and he can speak to this as well.

00:23:01.520 But we were adamantly against the digital ID and a cashless society for exactly these reasons.

00:23:11.880 Because when my bank accounts were frozen, my credit card that was on file with my son's drugstore, we could not get his heart medication, right?

00:23:22.020 What did my son do that now put his life in jeopardy?

00:23:27.080 He didn't do anything.

00:23:28.780 And the government of Canada, without any consideration to the second and third order effects of people's lives, you know, we heard other testimony, I think, from Bridget, that she struggled.

00:23:40.820 She couldn't get her husband's diabetes medication, if I'm remembering that correctly.

00:23:47.060 So, you know, they didn't give any consideration to the second, third order effects of what they were doing.

00:23:52.940 They just did it because they could.

00:23:56.160 And then you see Chrystia Freeland just giggling away like Philip the Goat from Diaglon, you know, when she's talking about how she's freezing financial assets. 0.51

00:24:07.900 She thought it was funny.

00:24:08.840 And, yeah, you know, Diaglon, that's another thing that I want to talk about.

00:24:12.060 I don't think we have a clip ready for that.

00:24:13.900 But can you talk to us a little bit more about Jeremy McKenzie's fate country called the Diaglon?

00:24:20.080 Yeah.

00:24:20.500 And I couldn't remember the vice president of Diaglon's name.

00:24:25.240 It is, in fact, Philip.

00:24:27.000 Oh, right.

00:24:27.640 Is there a quote as well?

00:24:28.420 Philip is the time-traveling, coke-addicted goat who is the vice president of the fictitious country or state of Diaglon. 0.83

00:24:39.340 Diaglon is a – if you draw a line from Alaska across Alberta down to Texas, it creates a diagonal line.

00:24:48.560 And that's the states and provinces that actually don't have mask mandates at the time when he created it.

00:24:53.960 And their arch enemy are the states and provinces around that are – that's called Circolon. 0.97

00:25:02.080 That's their arch enemy.

00:25:03.380 Diagonal and circle.

00:25:04.480 Sounds super real.

00:25:07.160 Yeah.

00:25:07.740 I mean, this is – it got brought up in my testimony as well today because it was brought up in the House of Commons during the invocation when they were debating.

00:25:17.200 The liberals were actually debating and saying that this was a terrorist organization and that it was correct to use the Emergency Act because of Diaglon, a meme, a social media meme, a joke.

00:25:30.860 This is the world we live in under Justin Trudeau right now.

00:25:35.920 Oh, that's right.

00:25:37.120 Let's go to a quick ad break and then when we come back and talk about your views of mainstream media and what you said about mainstream media, both in the inquiry and then afterwards during the quick scrum that we're able to have with you.

00:25:48.800 Sure.

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00:27:11.540 It's time to drop these masks and let the truth shine.

00:27:16.780 All right.

00:27:33.640 Mainstream media.

00:27:34.680 That was one of the main parts of your tech movie as well.

00:27:37.480 We heard you talk a lot about them.

00:27:39.080 No, before we start, why don't we throw it to one of your clips, clip number eight, where we can see you in the inquiry talk about your views in regards to intermedia.

00:27:49.900 Sure.

00:27:52.080 Take a look.

00:27:53.340 Did you take any steps to clarify what you meant with the media outlets who were reporting that the protesters wanted to form a coalition government?

00:28:03.080 No, I was not in charge of direct contact.

00:28:10.760 I had no direct contact with the media.

00:28:12.560 And as far as I was concerned, my belief was if they actually started to do their job and report fairly, we would reward them with contact or I would or whatever, not necessarily me.

00:28:24.320 But if they continued down the path of constantly vilifying and lying about us, I didn't see the point really of talking to them at all.

00:28:33.360 We were effective, highly effective at getting out everything we wanted to get out to the public through alternative and social media.

00:28:41.560 So you didn't make any efforts to go to the reporters who had reported a different interpretation and say, that's wrong, can you please fix it?

00:28:49.720 No.

00:28:50.440 And so you don't know whether or not they would have issued a correction or issued, maybe not a correction, a follow-up story.

00:28:55.980 You just don't know.

00:28:56.800 I don't know.

00:28:57.440 And they never reached out to talk to me from my knowledge either.

00:29:02.680 You know, I can assure you from someone who was in the video room while you were saying it, the vibe wasn't the same as it was right before that.

00:29:12.580 What's your issue with Mention Media?

00:29:13.860 They lie and they have been doing nothing but lie since the pandemic began.

00:29:20.680 And I think they probably were part of the lie before the first lockdowns started.

00:29:25.820 And they just continue to perpetuate all of Justin Trudeau's lies.

00:29:32.080 They do not report in a balanced, transparent manner.

00:29:36.840 They don't go and get stories of even the doctors or even lawyers or nurses that had a counter-opinion to the official government or ministry of truth beliefs.

00:29:52.320 And so I just, after all this time, I am not going to ever give them a soundbite.

00:29:59.360 And I had an issue, too, when James Topp, myself, and Paul Alexander, Dr. Alexander, met with – you were there.

00:30:06.400 You covered that.

00:30:07.200 Yeah, I was there as well.

00:30:08.080 In fact, I took the video that you posted up on YouTube and I reposted that because you're the only one who actually didn't edit.

00:30:16.180 You captured the truth of what the conversation was.

00:30:18.660 The whole thing.

00:30:19.240 The whole thing.

00:30:19.920 And they chopped it up and created their own little narrative around soundbites.

00:30:27.180 And so I just don't want to give them any soundbites whatsoever that they're going to chop up.

00:30:32.140 And I have no doubt now that they'll take even my little passing comment when I walked by and said they're liars. 0.96

00:30:37.540 They'll chop that up into something disgusting like they typically do. 1.00

00:30:41.520 So as far as I'm concerned, they're just doing – they're the biggest megaphone for Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh and all these people that are perpetuating lies.

00:30:55.380 We all know they get paid.

00:30:57.440 I mean, it's almost self-abusive because we, as taxpayers, fund –

00:31:02.240 Yeah, we're paying for that.

00:31:03.200 We're paying to be lied and victimized by the mainstream media.

00:31:07.200 So I refuse to participate in any of their games.

00:31:12.120 So I walked right by.

00:31:13.740 I saw you and I only – I spoke to you and I spoke to Andrew Lawton.

00:31:19.020 Yeah.

00:31:19.780 Because I just refuse to reward them in any way possible.

00:31:25.440 Because even if they tell you that they're good, they're going to find a way to make you look bad.

00:31:30.640 Oh, for sure.

00:31:31.400 And, you know, it's funny that you mentioned megaphone because that's what I was thinking of.

00:31:34.480 There's a picture that I saw recently online.

00:31:37.540 It's journalism in the 1970s where you see the politicians speaking.

00:31:41.500 You see the people on one side.

00:31:43.100 And you see the reporter with a megaphone shouting at the politician, being the voice of the people.

00:31:48.440 Now, once 2022, you see the exact same thing, the politicians there, the people here.

00:31:53.460 But you see the journalist pointing the megaphone at the people, basically regurgitating everything the politicians saying.

00:32:00.120 Is this what you're saying?

00:32:01.100 Well, that's exactly it, you know.

00:32:03.360 And I've told this story a few times in various events that in 1933, when Hitler became the Chancellor of Germany,

00:32:13.020 the first thing he did was actually issue free radios into the homes of every German family.

00:32:19.780 And he was also in control of the content that those homes were receiving.

00:32:25.800 This is how governments historically get their message out to the people that they want the people.

00:32:31.040 And now look at us at Bill C-C11.

00:32:33.620 Last I was tracking it, it passed its second reading in the Senate.

00:32:37.580 We're inches away from the government having full dominance of the internet.

00:32:45.760 And that puts all of us at risk of being an informed society if the government is going to dictate what we can and cannot consume.

00:32:55.760 No, Bill C-11 is an absolutely terrible bill.

00:32:58.720 It's an online censorship bill, Soviet Union-style censorship bill.

00:33:02.540 So it's absolutely terrible.

00:33:03.780 And if it passes, third reading in the Senate.

00:33:05.920 And it will.

00:33:07.220 Yeah, I have some hopes that it won't pass.

00:33:10.180 But I think there's a large chance, I think, it will be terrible for the future of Canadian society.

00:33:15.380 Listen, we had you on for only a few minutes.

00:33:17.440 Now, I really want to get to one specific clip.

00:33:19.480 As we mentioned earlier, after your testimony, you stepped out of the room and you did a three-minute scrum with us.

00:33:27.120 I think it will be worth it to show the full scrum that we did together.

00:33:31.020 So let's take a look at that and then we can talk a little bit and then I'll let you go.

00:33:35.080 Sure.

00:33:38.480 Fully represented your position during the convoy.

00:33:41.600 Roughly represented free convoy.

00:33:43.460 Can you elaborate on what exactly you meant by that?

00:33:45.740 Yeah, and I talked about it in the testimony today where, you know, they vilified people or vilified the comments that I made for basically saying that I wanted to form a government to be part of a government.

00:33:59.900 That was not the intent of those comments.

00:34:02.320 They never retracted it after we did the updated statement saying we wanted nothing to do with the internal workings of the government.

00:34:10.220 But the media never corrected that.

00:34:13.520 They just continued on the vicious attacks and the narrative that they wanted all along.

00:34:18.040 Can you also explain?

00:34:19.580 So you weren't an organizer at the beginning, but you were also only a spokesperson, as you said, for two days.

00:34:24.680 So why were you testifying on the stand today in the inquiry?

00:34:29.260 I was summoned to be here, like all the other witnesses.

00:34:32.700 And last question for me, do you think there's ever a way that our country can recover from the damage that was done from the politicians and the police in the past two years?

00:34:40.480 The people of Canada have no voice.

00:34:48.680 They have no power because of the legacy media constantly lies and misrepresents everything that has been going on for two years.

00:34:59.040 And I think the media is when the media decides to be on the side of the people, then I think you'll get some change.

00:35:06.580 But right now, they're on the side of the government who constantly lies.

00:35:11.020 If Justin Trudeau or representatives of the federal government had met with you, what would your response have been or those of your colleagues?

00:35:18.200 I would have clearly articulated why these mandates we believed were unjustified, immoral, illegal,

00:35:25.660 and that Canadians had spoken and sent us to Ottawa to deliver that message and come up with a way to remove the mandates and then plot a way forward.

00:35:39.100 If they heard that message but didn't change policy, would that be enough for the protests to have said mission accomplished and go home in your view?

00:35:47.640 No, the objective was to get rid of all federal mandates.

00:35:50.920 And leadership starts at the top, so if Justin Trudeau had decided to do the right thing, the right moral thing,

00:35:57.040 and to listen to the wishes of Canadians, then maybe the premiers would have found their moral courage as well

00:36:05.240 and started listening to people in this country.

00:36:08.620 Because two and a half or two years prior to the convoy, Canadians were protesting all over this country

00:36:15.520 and not one single politician heard those concerns.

00:36:18.020 Can you talk about the relationship with the police services on the ground?

00:36:22.160 Who are you with?

00:36:23.000 I'm a reporter, a local reporter for Le Droit.

00:36:26.040 Can you talk about the relationship with the police?

00:36:32.800 Did you get everyone?

00:36:35.960 You know, in a certain way, I feel like that was a liberal politician moment.

00:36:39.060 That's why we're being told all the time, we're done to work.

00:36:41.360 Who are you with? Rebel News, ah, that's not enough.

00:36:43.340 Those people aren't used to being told no.

00:36:45.980 Yeah, and there's a big part of me that felt a little, you know, a moment of satisfaction walking away.

00:36:57.500 Because, you know, they want to take the soundbite, chop it up, and make it into something ugly.

00:37:03.920 And I just don't want to play that game with them.

00:37:06.460 For as long as alternative media is allowed to continue and allowed to keep telling the truth, that is, you know, that's going to be a direct threat to the government in the competition.

00:37:23.260 I think that's the genesis of Bill C-11.

00:37:25.680 It's not about keeping the internet safe from hate.

00:37:29.540 It's about keeping absolute dominant control over what Canadian citizens get to digest and consume, really, from the media.

00:37:40.040 The message is going to be controlled directly from the government of Canada, the Ministry of Truth.

00:37:45.340 It is not going to be, you're not going to have the ability to do research.

00:37:50.680 I mean, I would, if I was people, I'd be out there running, getting stocks and VPN companies right now.

00:37:56.220 That's what I'd be doing.

00:37:56.920 For sure, I'm sure you're going to do a lot of profits in the next few months if Bill C-11 is actually a 19-20 law.

00:38:02.760 And just one last thing.

00:38:03.540 You seem to have this little competition, this little clash, little hatred towards mainstream media right now.

00:38:08.020 Do you think it's ever going to be resolved?

00:38:09.320 No, I think we need to defund the CBC and every media outlet that gets money from the government.

00:38:20.280 And, you know, the CRTC has a lot of explaining to do to the public because really the CRTC was put into place because there was limited airwaves for the legacy media to get different portions of it.

00:38:35.540 That's not the case with the internet anymore.

00:38:37.300 And so CRTC has become irrelevant, but they've had to reinvent themselves as, you know, the gatekeepers of the internet now.

00:38:46.200 And it's completely unnecessary.

00:38:48.460 It's unnatural.

00:38:49.740 And I just don't think that we need it.

00:38:52.680 And I think the market is going to punish legacy media with their behavior anyway. 0.81

00:38:59.260 So that's a bit of a risk to us because as they get less viewership, the government's going to get more creative in making sure that we find a way to consume their garbage. 0.92

00:39:11.320 That's right.

00:39:11.680 Well, that's what we're seeing with Bill C-11.

00:39:14.380 C-11, yeah.

00:39:15.360 Yeah.

00:39:15.700 Well, thanks so much for coming on, Samtze.

00:39:17.940 I'll see you very soon in the next few days.

00:39:20.700 Next time, wear a tie.

00:39:22.040 You know, I've been the one who's been telling you that for the past few weeks and you're finally wearing one.

00:39:27.860 I'm glad you wear one.

00:39:29.120 Yeah.

00:39:29.400 I can promise I will wear one next time that you come on the show.

00:39:32.700 You'll be less well-dressed than me next time.

00:39:35.000 I absolutely will.

00:39:35.380 All right, guys, stay on with us.

00:39:37.040 We'll be able to have Derek Sloan come on right after this short break.

00:39:40.900 All right.

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00:40:58.300 Leader, yeah.

00:40:59.300 Sorry, guys, for the technical difficulty I have.

00:41:01.680 I have currently with me Derek Sloan, leader of the Ontario Party in Ontario, it says in the name.

00:41:07.380 How are you doing, Derek?

00:41:08.280 Hey, I'm doing really well.

00:41:09.300 Thanks for having me here.

00:41:10.120 So, Derek, you are at the Inquiry today for the first time since the past three weeks.

00:41:14.140 What motivated you to come to Ottawa?

00:41:16.180 Well, obviously, I've been watching it through the news and in other ways.

00:41:19.600 But today, a very good friend of mine, Tom Marazzo, was testifying.

00:41:23.700 I wanted to be here to support Tom in person and obviously, you know, say hi to the other people who were there, along with, you know, Tamara Litch and Chris Barber and people like that.

00:41:35.820 So, it was a good day and some interesting testimony.

00:41:39.240 That's right.

00:41:39.580 You know, I think Tom's testimony really spoke to the people of Ontario, to the people of Canada.

00:41:43.040 I think, as I mentioned with Tom earlier, that's how a lot of Canadians are feeling.

00:41:46.620 They're feeling let down by the police.

00:41:47.980 They're feeling let down by the government, by mainstream media.

00:41:52.000 Is that one of the reasons why you're motivated to run for the Ontario Party in the last elections?

00:41:56.740 Yeah, absolutely.

00:41:57.480 I mean, I believe my goal is to rejuvenate politics in Canada at every level.

00:42:03.960 And I may not be able to, you know, be a participant in every way in Canada in that, but I like to support people who are trying to make a change.

00:42:11.300 I see.

00:42:11.540 And so, that's why I ran against Doug Ford in Ontario.

00:42:17.560 And, you know, again, I believe that he's an example of the kind of leader that we need to see less of here in Canada.

00:42:23.240 So, absolutely, you know, that's why I was involved.

00:42:26.220 I know why Tom was involved as well.

00:42:28.200 And it's great to be surrounded by so many great people.

00:42:31.300 And what were your thoughts from the inquiries?

00:42:33.380 That was the first time that you actually went in person.

00:42:35.380 How are you feeling being in the room in person?

00:42:37.660 Well, it's very interesting.

00:42:38.700 In some senses, it's surprising sort of that the room is not packed.

00:42:43.500 I know there's a lot of people watching online and so forth and reading about it in the news.

00:42:48.040 But it's not a packed room.

00:42:49.760 There's not really that many people there outside of the people who are set to testify and the various lawyers that are there.

00:42:55.960 So, there's lots of room.

00:42:58.040 Very interesting.

00:42:59.300 I would say from my impression that the inquiry is being run in a fairly fair manner in the sense that it feels like they're letting everybody say their piece.

00:43:09.880 And a lot of very, you know, really bombshell information is coming out.

00:43:14.480 And it's really painting the liberals in a bad light.

00:43:17.800 It's painting the whole invocation of the Emergencies Act, you know, again, as unnecessary.

00:43:22.820 And it's exciting to see, frankly.

00:43:24.720 And how closely have you been following the inquiry for the past, since the beginning?

00:43:29.980 Yeah, fairly closely.

00:43:30.940 I mean, I haven't been watching every minute, of course, on TV.

00:43:33.780 But anything that's, you know, spoken about in the news and so on, I've seen that.

00:43:38.440 And which testimony surprised you the most or really caught your attention the most out of everyone that's passed?

00:43:44.140 You know, we had Jim Watson.

00:43:45.380 Yes.

00:43:45.660 We had failed Ottawa Mayoral candidate, Catherine McKinney.

00:43:48.300 Yes.

00:43:48.660 We had Zach Zeeley and now your good friend Tom Morato.

00:43:50.760 Yes, yes.

00:43:52.040 Yeah.

00:43:52.280 So for me, I think some of the most important information, really the OPP intelligence chief, I believe.

00:43:58.980 That's right.

00:43:59.360 Yeah.

00:43:59.500 You know, that individual.

00:44:01.480 Some great stuff came out of that testimony.

00:44:03.260 So basically, you know, again, I didn't, so I read news, a news summary about what he said.

00:44:10.520 But what I understand he did in part was to basically blame the media for sensationalizing the news that was coming out about the truckers convo.

00:44:18.820 And he basically said, listen, there wasn't any real evidence of any, you know, extremism or violence.

00:44:24.160 And the media had a part to play in, you know, blowing this way out of proportion.

00:44:29.180 And I think that that's, you know, something that we, you know, we all would have known that before.

00:44:34.300 But it's great to have somebody on the record testifying to that.

00:44:37.600 Yeah.

00:44:37.700 And were you in Ottawa during the Freedom Convoi?

00:44:39.620 Yes, I was.

00:44:40.500 I was.

00:44:40.980 Yeah.

00:44:41.120 So for our viewers at home that haven't really been following the commission, I think it would be great to show one of the clips from Keith Wilson, clip number two, talk about the truckers that arrived in Ottawa and their intent when arriving in the capital of the country.

00:44:54.440 Let's take a look at that clip.

00:44:58.940 Not, was never just to move up to Wellington.

00:45:02.100 It was always recognized that probably only 25% of the vehicles could go to Wellington.

00:45:07.100 The more dominant theme of the plan was for the vehicles to move to the remote locations at Embrom, Exit 88 and Armprior and to have expand the shuttle buses that were already running.

00:45:24.020 And there was also, this is a very important point, and I don't know that it's come out yet, is a lot of people who were there, the truckers, never planned to stay that long.

00:45:34.660 But the Canadians they met along the way, and the stories and the heartache that they heard, and the trust and plea that they heard from those people.

00:45:49.120 Many of the truckers I talked to felt this obligation to stay as long as they could, but they also needed a way to leave gracefully and respectfully.

00:45:57.760 And one of the things we recognized was that if 75% of the vehicles were going to be given an opportunity to leave and go either to Embrom or Armprior, that some would actually use it as an opportunity to go home and do so respectfully.

00:46:14.980 So that was an important part of the plan.

00:46:16.460 Is that what you've been able to notice during your time here in Ottawa, during the Freedom Convoy?

00:46:23.600 Oh, just that it was a respectful protest and things like this?

00:46:26.580 Well, that was respectful. People weren't planning on staying for a long run.

00:46:28.940 However, they did decide to stay for a long run after seeing the issues that were at stake and the civil liberties that were basically fighting for.

00:46:35.140 Yeah. So my impression of the trucker convoy is that it was, again, a very organic movement that really materialized, not because of the leadership of any one person or group of people, but just because of Canadians sort of having enough and being fed up with what was going on in the government.

00:46:50.760 I think that when the convoy started taking on a life of its own from the beginning in terms of adding more and more trucks to the convoy as it was coming from different areas of the country.

00:47:03.260 And I think when people got here, I mean, one thing I noted when I was here is that the atmosphere was just so peaceful, even though it was almost 30 degrees below zero.

00:47:15.280 It was almost like it was a mixture between like a family reunion and like a festival.

00:47:22.040 And I think people just really were so proud to see so many people like them across the country.

00:47:27.700 They were so glad to see, you know, Canadians rallying together that it just continued to evolve into what it became.

00:47:37.440 Yeah. And, you know, while we're seeing it on the screen, I want to give you some time to address it in your view.

00:47:43.220 We saw a few pictures only of a Swastika flag being flown the whole time.

00:47:48.320 We saw a Nazi flag being flown.

00:47:50.100 And I feel the mainstream media blew all of this out of proportion.

00:47:53.660 Yes.

00:47:54.000 Is that the general sense you had?

00:47:55.700 You talk about how peaceful it was that did you feel it was a Nazi process with a large neo-Nazi Swastika racist presence in Ottawa?

00:48:03.920 So, so I believe the media deliberately tried to portray the trucker rally as something that it wasn't from the beginning.

00:48:12.140 I think that's very clear.

00:48:13.640 I mean, I remember one headline in the Toronto Star saying something along the lines of, you know, the trucker rally is white supremacism in all its glory.

00:48:21.720 No, absolutely not.

00:48:24.360 When I was there, I saw all different kinds of people, all different kinds of skin colors.

00:48:28.500 There was a significant contingent of, you know, natives there.

00:48:33.520 There's a lot of French people.

00:48:34.840 There was a lot of people of all different backgrounds.

00:48:38.160 There was none of that there.

00:48:39.460 You know, this particular flag that was shown in the media, which I believe was taken in some corridor beside the Hotel, the Chateau Laurier.

00:48:53.160 I believe that that, again, I mean, that's not where the major, that's not where, you know, the majority of people were.

00:49:00.060 But again, who's to say who that was?

00:49:02.940 Maybe, you know, maybe somebody was there just to discredit the movement, right?

00:49:06.600 I mean, you know, nothing's to stop anyone who's opposed to the truckers movement from coming and doing things that are discreditable.

00:49:14.340 And we've seen that in other situations where you have, you know, left-wing groups or other kind of groups that come in and try to discredit legitimate protests.

00:49:22.580 So it could very well have been that, and it probably was.

00:49:24.860 Yeah, I think I agree with you because one of the things that Andrew Lawson touched on when he came on the live stream a few days ago,

00:49:30.360 he touched on the fact that he learned that the cameraman who was following those two guys holding Sustika and Nazi flight was Justin Trudeau's cameraman.

00:49:38.860 He was Justin Trudeau's photographer.

00:49:40.500 Sure.

00:49:41.060 I think it might have been staged.

00:49:42.460 It's possible.

00:49:43.280 I think there's a possibility that was the case.

00:49:45.580 There's another interesting point that you touched on.

00:49:47.700 I believe it was either Keith Wilson or Tom Morato that spoke about this during the testimony.

00:49:52.920 There were a lot of Eastern European protesters at the Freedom Convoy.

00:49:58.800 And there's a clear reason for that.

00:50:00.260 You know, in Eastern Europe, that's Soviet Union.

00:50:02.540 That's Russia. 0.84

00:50:03.800 And these people, these older gentlemen that are living in Eastern Europe, remember how it was like during the Soviet Union.

00:50:10.740 Correct.

00:50:11.040 Or they have parents or grandparents that were living through a Soviet Union regime.

00:50:16.400 And I think if those people are so attracted to the convoy because they see there's an important message there,

00:50:22.940 I think Canadians should take a listen to that because it means that those people who know what an actual authoritarian communist regime,

00:50:30.900 dictatorship, basically a dictatorship, that type of regime, they know how it is.

00:50:36.180 And I think the reason why they were so attracted to the convoys is because they saw Canada slowly moving towards that direction.

00:50:42.020 I think you're right.

00:50:42.960 I think in my experience, almost, you know, anybody who has an Eastern European background

00:50:47.960 or any experience with living in the Eastern Bloc has really, you know, the light bulb has sort of come on during COVID.

00:50:54.400 And a lot of these people see similarities with sort of what the government has done during COVID-19,

00:50:59.380 especially, you know, how they responded to their freedom convoy and other things as being exactly the types of things that they saw and experienced under communism.

00:51:08.360 So I think these are lessons that we all need to consider.

00:51:12.120 And it's good to see that so many people are waking up.

00:51:15.040 No, it's definitely great to see.

00:51:16.140 And another thing that I also want to touch on is Doug Ford.

00:51:18.880 You ran against Doug Ford and we know that Doug Ford was summons, testified during the inquiry.

00:51:22.920 However, he's trying to fight it in court right now.

00:51:24.760 Correct.

00:51:25.220 What do you make of that?

00:51:26.740 Well, it's interesting.

00:51:27.720 I mean, it's an interesting legal argument they're using.

00:51:29.820 I mean, the political reason why is they don't want to lose face for what happened behind the scenes.

00:51:36.300 I mean, it's very clear that Doug Ford and his brother, Rob Ford, when he was alive, they were, you know, behind the blue collar guy.

00:51:44.420 They were into, you know, truckers and that kind of thing.

00:51:46.680 And Doug Ford threw them under the bus.

00:51:48.880 And I don't think he is proud of that moment in his life.

00:51:52.620 And I don't think he wants whatever deliberations went back and forth between himself and Justin Trudeau and others to be brought out into the light of day.

00:52:01.580 And so regardless of the legal arguments that they're making, I hope that he is compelled to testify.

00:52:07.160 And I hope that the truth of this comes out.

00:52:10.160 Do you think he's running under the name of his brother?

00:52:13.020 You know, he uses four-nation a lot, which is a term that his brother used.

00:52:17.200 Do you think that's a strategy?

00:52:19.020 I mean, of course, right?

00:52:20.080 I mean, you know, the Ford brand politically in this day and age is largely through his brother.

00:52:27.660 And I mean, Ford Nation kind of, you know, it refers to sort of, you know, like the work hard, get it done, blue collar types.

00:52:35.280 That's an association that, you know, they've always reached out to.

00:52:39.740 And frankly, he threw those types under the bus when he was in favor of this emergency act.

00:52:43.720 So he should testify.

00:52:45.800 And I hope he has to.

00:52:47.640 And while we have you on here, moving away a little bit from the trucker inquiry, because I'm curious to see your thoughts on that.

00:52:56.460 Recently, Doug Ford decided to invoke the notwithstanding clause against the union professor.

00:53:05.280 Do you agree with Ford's decision to do that?

00:53:07.000 I believe that we need to take strong action to keep the schools open.

00:53:18.220 You know, as to the specifics of this negotiation, you know, frankly, I mean, could it have been accomplished without?

00:53:26.760 I don't know.

00:53:27.360 I do know that, you know, what the what the what the the union is asking for is a pretty significant increase.

00:53:34.980 And frankly, my opinion over the years is that, you know.

00:53:39.520 My opinion over the years is that, you know, this particular union and the teachers union can be hard to deal with.

00:53:47.060 I mean, that's that's clear.

00:53:48.480 You know, they're they're certainly paid better than many other places around the world.

00:53:52.800 And they always they always want more.

00:53:54.860 So, you know, whether they should have gone this route or whether it could have been, you know, dealt with in another way, I don't know.

00:54:03.320 But listen, kids need to go to school.

00:54:06.020 The fact that they're trying to walk out right now, you know, they're asking for I forget it was at 11 percent to pay increase or something like that.

00:54:12.880 It's extremely high.

00:54:13.360 It's very high, very high, exact percentage.

00:54:15.300 That's a lot.

00:54:16.000 And frankly, you know, we live in an environment right now where everybody is needing, you know, the cost of living is going up for everybody.

00:54:23.020 Not many people are getting massive raises right now.

00:54:26.860 And I think the public service needs to needs to needs to remember that.

00:54:30.820 I mean, they're they're free to, you know, start their own business or take another career if it pays more.

00:54:36.640 But we can't be expecting the government to up the ante all the time when it comes to things like this.

00:54:41.600 Yeah. One of the things I find pretty funny is here's Stephen Leach, the minister, well, the minister for for education.

00:54:48.480 Talk about the need for children to go back to school.

00:54:51.260 We need to send our children back to school.

00:54:52.640 Yeah.

00:54:52.960 When you're the exact government that locks them up for two years in Ontario.

00:54:56.760 Yes. 0.92

00:54:57.060 And then don't you find it a little bit hypocritical? 0.97

00:54:59.060 Yeah, it is bizarre.

00:54:59.940 I mean, it appears to one degree or another that, you know, the PCs have grown a pair or at least are doing some things that are a little bit.

00:55:07.280 To a certain extent.

00:55:08.140 You know, a little bit braver.

00:55:09.380 Right.

00:55:09.640 But, you know, we have to remember, you know, the government that we're talking about here, you know, legislate, you know, making sure that the schools stay open.

00:55:17.400 That's the right thing to do.

00:55:18.320 You know, not giving into, you know, you know, unfair union demands.

00:55:24.640 That's the right thing to do as well.

00:55:26.180 So we'll see what happens.

00:55:27.800 Are you going to be staying here in Ottawa for the next few days during the commission?

00:55:31.000 It's going to be an exciting week and we're going to be here for the next couple of days.

00:55:34.120 Well, that's very exciting.

00:55:35.020 I look forward to seeing you at the commission.

00:55:36.420 Yeah.

00:55:36.800 Do we have any chats, Olivia or Efron, for today?

00:55:43.440 Sure.

00:55:43.880 Well, we'll take a look.

00:55:45.060 So you're going to be staying here in Ottawa for the next three days?

00:55:48.800 The next, yeah, the next for sure tomorrow, possibly Friday.

00:55:51.560 But there's definitely some exciting testimony.

00:55:54.520 We have Tamara Lech coming up. 1.00

00:55:55.540 We have one of the infamous founders of the group that shall not be named is coming on Friday.

00:56:02.480 And then there's also there's there's others.

00:56:06.300 Oh, there's Danny Bulford that is testifying on Friday.

00:56:10.880 So it's a packed week.

00:56:12.760 And I mean, you know, in some sense, I mean, obviously, there's there's so many witnesses that are key witnesses.

00:56:19.460 But I think Tamara's testimony is going to be one of the highlights of this of this this whole affair.

00:56:25.100 So that will be interesting to see.

00:56:26.900 And and we'll see what we'll see what they can draw.

00:56:30.880 I mean, it's clear that the government's approach is to try and tie this memorandum of understanding to an actual attempt to overthrow the government.

00:56:39.920 Yeah.

00:56:40.280 They're also trying to, you know, connect this particular group to racism.

00:56:45.540 And they're doing a pretty poor job of that.

00:56:47.460 I mean, the memorandum of understanding is very clearly, you know, whimsical document drawn up by people who, you know, don't really maybe understand exactly how things work here.

00:56:56.920 But it was not in any way a legitimate attempt to have, you know, some kind of a violent overthrow of the Canadian government.

00:57:05.100 Yeah, I think that's what we're seeing right now.

00:57:06.460 I think that's what the inquiry is revealing.

00:57:08.500 People that were against the convoy.

00:57:10.120 You know, I have a couple of friends that were opposed to the convoy while they were here in Ottawa that were in favor of the emergency's act of the emergency's act.

00:57:17.280 And then after listening to the inquiry, they're starting to switch their position because they're seeing that there was no such thing as an emergency during the convoy.

00:57:26.180 There was no need to trample the civil liberties of protesters.

00:57:29.640 There was no need to have an authoritarian never seen before act and vote on peaceful protesters.

00:57:34.980 I think people are actually seeing it.

00:57:37.180 Yes, I think.

00:57:37.740 I mean, I think you're right.

00:57:38.640 I think the public impression of the inquiry is that really the emergency act shouldn't have been invoked.

00:57:43.620 I think that's the takeaway.

00:57:45.100 Of course.

00:57:46.160 100%.

00:57:46.520 All right, let's look at some of the chats that we have.

00:57:49.960 So the first one from Judah Bursay.

00:57:52.600 And those names, I'm so terrible at reading them.

00:57:55.760 Great job, Tom and Rebel Journalists.

00:57:57.840 Well, thank you so much.

00:57:58.880 Tom isn't the one sitting next to me, but I'm sure he didn't hear it in the background from our RBNP.

00:58:03.340 Thank you, Tom, for coming on today.

00:58:05.140 Is that the only one that we have?

00:58:08.040 Perfect.

00:58:08.560 Well, thank you so much for joining us, Derek.

00:58:11.040 Derek's own leader of the Ontario Party here in Ontario.

00:58:14.680 Thank you so much for tuning in, everyone at home today.

00:58:18.360 Stay tuned for the rest of the weekend for the next few weeks as well.

00:58:22.240 We will have to merely testify at the commission in the next few days.

00:58:25.580 We will also have a couple of other Freedom Convoy organizers that will be testifying.

00:58:29.600 So it will definitely be interesting to watch.

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Rebel News Podcast - November 03, 2022

BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 15 ｜ Ft. Tom Marazzo & Derek Sloan

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