Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 16 ｜ Tamara Lich testifies

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00:01:01.940 Oh good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to the rebel news daily live stream something we're

00:01:30.760 calling breakdown wherein we analyze the day's testimony heard at the public order emergency

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00:01:56.160 Celine Gallus Celine how's it going today was your first full day covering the trucker commission what did you think

00:02:04.500 it was a lot there was a lot there were so many testimonies and so many periods of cross-examination it was

00:02:13.320 very very very interesting I know right now we just had the first half of Tamara Leach's testimony that will

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00:04:52.920 now moving on to the testimony today I think we should start with I think what who everybody has

00:05:02.900 been waiting for and that's Tamara Leach and she is the diminutive and I cannot use that word strongly 0.55

00:05:10.560 enough tiny little Métis grandma from southern Alberta who is a lead convoy organizer and she spent 1.00

00:05:20.420 49 days in jail for relatively my actually not relatively minor absolutely minor mischief charges

00:05:31.260 stuff that she would never see the inside of a jail cell if she were convicted of everything but she was

00:05:37.520 held at the hands of a vindictive and out of control prosecutor and she was politically persecuted

00:05:44.400 they needed to make somebody pay for the inconvenience and traffic snarl happening in downtown Ottawa when

00:05:50.440 thousands of truckers and their supporters converged on the city to protest COVID-19 mandates and lockdowns

00:05:57.440 and they made her pay she was basically a political prisoner they didn't want to let her go I mean

00:06:03.860 the testimony today if anybody who was ever on the fence about Tamara I think even if you hated the

00:06:12.900 convoy you have to look at that woman and say she's no terrorist she's no criminal she shouldn't 0.98

00:06:17.660 have spent a day in jail I absolutely agree with that 100 percent um it was it was tough it was tough

00:06:27.880 because I met her in Ottawa um when we were there in the first couple days before we went back to cover

00:06:34.340 coots and uh that was my impression of her then and that is my impression of her now more than ever her

00:06:40.320 testimony the beginning of it um I think the the media room that I was in uh covering live tweeting all day

00:06:47.320 today it went silent for maybe the first time today it was but I hope so her testimony yeah so while others were

00:06:54.440 being slandered for their emotional outburst today in the media room Tamara Leach was not one of them

00:06:59.100 because it had me on the edge of my seat um paying attention closer than ever all day today it was just

00:07:05.060 Tamara Leach's testimony you know she I've met her a few times um we talk back and forth now and then

00:07:12.760 and uh she's thoughtful she's calm

00:07:18.160 and you know the first time I saw her get emotional I think it was on a Facebook live or she was just

00:07:26.140 calling for peace and for calm but she doesn't have a vindictive bone in her body I would be 1.00

00:07:34.500 so bitter and so angry and so full of righteous indignation and quite possibly vengeance she doesn't

00:07:43.420 have any of that and you know there are a lot of people out there who are saying she's seditious

00:07:49.240 she's treasonous she's a terrorist she's like four foot ten like she's just tiny and calm and 0.98

00:07:58.880 in spite of everything that was done to her she she isn't angry in fact one of the things that 0.74

00:08:08.660 she I found very compelling was um even when she realized that she would it would be best if she 0.97

00:08:15.560 turned herself in instead of being like Pastor Archer in a high profile El Chapo style takedown on the

00:08:23.080 street one of the reasons that she turned herself in was because she didn't want her family 1.00

00:08:28.740 and the people around her to see her taken into custody you know and I thought even right at the

00:08:35.460 end turning herself in knowing that they're probably going to make an example of her and she's absolutely

00:08:40.120 absolutely right she thought um I don't want anybody's wife to see this I don't want anybody's

00:08:45.900 husband to see what they're about to do to me and she recounted going and looking for the police 0.62

00:08:53.180 so that she and I think that's uh Chris Barber went out looking to turn themselves in they went they

00:09:01.700 warmed up and then they got in their car and they went looking for the cops and I thought you know

00:09:06.540 some terrorist some public enemy number one that she didn't even want to inconvenience the people

00:09:12.420 around her as she turned herself in for the long haul yeah no I was I was just watching that little

00:09:19.020 clip that uh that was put up on the screen I can't imagine being in her shoes and having to to think

00:09:24.720 from a perspective of how is my family going to deal with this how is my husband beside me going to deal

00:09:30.680 with this if I'm arrested if there's a potentiality for him to be arrested the guilty by association

00:09:35.620 narrative um I would be distraught so the fact that she could gather her thoughts enough and her emotions

00:09:42.280 to put herself in an even more vulnerable and exposed position by seeking the police that had been

00:09:49.240 brutal towards the convoy at that time is um definitely does not sound like a terrorist to me

00:09:58.300 Sheila yeah um let's uh throw I think it's the last clip in the slack thread put there by Efron

00:10:06.760 Olivia it doesn't have a number so I don't I can't call to the number but it is Tamara Leach

00:10:12.200 remembering the night after the emergencies act was invoked so she knows now um she's public enemy

00:10:20.720 number one and like a good terrorist she went and found the cops to turn herself in 1.00

00:10:26.540 can you tell the commission uh what it was like to be arrested

00:10:32.740 well it was again kind of ironic because I went down to the war memorial that day to

00:10:41.440 attend the service that the vets were having there every day I spent my afternoon walking

00:10:47.080 the streets with um a veteran as and my husband and Miranda one of the road captains um just

00:10:54.280 talking to people and um I was aware the night before I'm sure you saw the video that it was

00:11:02.960 most likely coming um or that there was a chance that I could be arrested

00:11:11.480 and we went back to the hotel and within 15 minutes everybody's phones started blowing up and that Mr.

00:11:20.200 Barber had been arrested um Mr.

00:11:27.240 Bulford and I were at the Swiss Hotel with um Mr.

00:11:31.160 Skubik and Mr.

00:11:32.040 Tyson and we discussed what we should do what our next step should be and we were concerned that if they

00:11:44.520 were starting to arrest the organizers that they would come to the hotel

00:11:51.320 and my husband was there and Mr. Bulford's wife was there

00:11:58.280 and obviously that was the last thing that I would ever want my husband to see was to me be arrested

00:12:03.720 um we definitely didn't want that sort of activity occurring at the hotel with a woman who had been so 1.00

00:12:17.960 kind to us actually who was about to lose her business until we showed up

00:12:22.920 but like I said in my video I wasn't afraid I

00:12:32.760 believe and still believe that we did an excellent job

00:12:40.440 remaining peaceful advocating for the police

00:12:43.880 further to that testimony she's she talks about going out onto the street and actively looking for a

00:12:53.560 police officer so that she could turn herself in and she tried to turn herself in once and it was

00:13:00.120 unsuccessful and then they came back and picked her up um quite a seditionist criminal we all saw there 0.93

00:13:07.880 I hope there's a lot of people um who are realizing just how absolutely ridiculous they were every 0.90

00:13:15.480 time they said something cruel or unkind about this woman she had just had enough in fact there's she said 0.60

00:13:23.080 because she used to be involved in the maverick party which is 0.79

00:13:26.440 I don't want to call it a western separatist party but a western independence party whatever that might look like

00:13:32.280 and she said that going to Ottawa on the convoy changed her heart about Canada that

00:13:43.000 she wanted to fight for Canada instead of build up a firewall like people like me in Alberta want to do 0.96

00:13:52.040 she said she's learning French now because she sees this as a unifying thing even in spite of her arrest

00:14:01.560 and in spite of the fact that she's being called names by our prime minister

00:14:05.400 she feels herself to be more of a patriot than a western separatist

00:14:12.120 it's really hard um it's just very hard to imagine um that so many people would have such a false

00:14:18.520 narrative about this woman and the fact that it's ongoing like like there's for instance a great

00:14:25.160 instance actually there's been a singular protester outside of where these proceedings are being held

00:14:33.080 she got there literally seconds before William and I did actually and she was there when I left to come

00:14:39.160 back here and she yelled and screamed and said that everybody who passed her was a terrorist a sexist

00:14:45.800 and a misogynist and a misogynist and when Tamara Leach came out earlier to just take a little breather 1.00

00:14:53.000 I'm sure just go she didn't even go and talk to anybody in particular she just she just kind of took

00:14:58.520 her space that woman immediately started screaming in her direction calling her a terrorist calling her 1.00

00:15:04.920 a racist it was enough so you can tell people like that despite the fact that there's so much effort

00:15:11.400 going into destroying the image of someone someone like Tamara Leach like there's just there's no

00:15:17.800 point there's no point why why I don't understand it it just if someone is going to say that she's

00:15:25.480 dangerous and that she's a terrorist and and there there's people out there that will just yell and

00:15:30.600 scream at the top of their lungs for hours on end she she did not leave once I think that's 0.78

00:15:36.920 that's a lot worse than anything that I I think Tamara could be called I mean it's it's right there

00:15:42.200 it's right in the open you know I suggested to William to go ask that lady why what makes her 0.79

00:15:47.640 protest valid but not the truckers the scale I guess the support um if she's allowed to protest 0.87

00:15:55.400 and scream and yell and speak her mind on a street corner so is everybody else just so happens the 0.90

00:16:01.400 truckers are a little bit better at it than that uh wild-eyed lunatic on too much CBC you know there's

00:16:07.560 a reason why there are people who come and abduct cult members out of a cult and take them out of it

00:16:14.680 and isolate them uh and I think if that woman were in a cult and she just might be she would be one of

00:16:22.040 those people that you would need to abduct out of it and they would be angry at the abductor for a

00:16:26.440 long time until the deprogramming comes out she's one of those people because everything she knows 0.57

00:16:33.800 none of it matters because she has this belief system that the truckers are racist misogynist 0.93

00:16:39.960 sexist sexist homophobic whatever and her cult leader Justin Trudeau told her so it's okay 0.51

00:16:46.840 no the cognitive dissonance does go so far that it's like uh individuals that present the same 0.98

00:16:52.840 uniting front as her it's like they're having like like it doesn't compete like they just literally

00:16:59.000 break down yeah so I went up and I asked her um what her definition of a terrorist was

00:17:07.400 and she just yelled and screamed over me and didn't acknowledge my presence except for when I was 1.00

00:17:12.280 leaving to go and um have lunch like a normal person and um that was it that was about the

00:17:19.000 interaction it was great yeah I've actually have a great deal of pity for that woman but I'm reliably 0.99

00:17:24.520 informed by the busy bodies in Ottawa that they don't like disruption on their street so someone

00:17:30.920 should go and seize that crazy person's bank account um let's go to let's go to uh clip two um 0.63

00:17:41.240 I think this is Tamara Leach explaining the impetus for her involvement in the convoy because it was 0.84

00:17:48.280 deeply personal for her it wasn't just you know I want to tag along with this movement we heard some

00:17:56.360 of that over the last couple of days people who just wanted to make a name for themselves um that

00:18:03.400 wasn't her uh impetus at all it was very personal uh had to do with her family and she just didn't know

00:18:10.040 what else to do yeah because I was seeing families torn apart

00:18:22.280 the suicides in my hometown were so numerous that they stopped reporting them

00:18:30.600 um elderly people were dying by themselves in long-term care facilities

00:18:36.200 and saying goodbye over ipads my grandma is 94 years old and she was locked in her little apartment 0.85

00:18:48.760 by herself for two years my father is a very social man he is the coffee row saskatchewan

00:18:58.520 father and I remember him telling me one day that he went down to the local restaurant that he went to

00:19:06.760 every single day and these are small towns where everybody knows everybody and he was asked to leave

00:19:13.560 and I didn't want my children and my grandchildren to live in a world like that

00:19:18.200 it's hard to capture a moment like that when it's so raw and the reality of it is is so it's so unshakable

00:19:31.640 you know she's she's talking and she's going over those things and I'm sitting there recollecting all

00:19:35.640 the ways that I saw people treated in the same manner that my family that myself my friends were treated in the

00:19:40.680 same manner yeah I know it my mom died alone in a hospital room because they could only let one of

00:19:50.600 us in and it wasn't me my brother was there first uh my kids were not able to go to her funeral because 0.79

00:19:55.880 of the stupid restrictions on our catholic church that seats 800 but we could only have 10 people 0.86

00:20:02.760 in for her funeral mass we had to draw lots to see who could be in that 0.99

00:20:08.440 enormous church where my kids were baptized where my family was married where every important thing

00:20:16.600 that ever happened in our life we couldn't be a part of saying goodbye to my mom so I understand why

00:20:23.640 Tamara got mad enough to go she didn't want this world for her kids or her grandkids or her parents 1.00

00:20:30.040 or her grandparents she did something when all of us well not all of us but a lot of people

00:20:36.840 just stood around and complained she actually did something um and actually that should bring me to

00:20:42.440 clip one because uh Tamara she talks about how she wasn't even sure that she would achieve anything 0.76

00:20:50.200 she wasn't even sure that they would even get to odd one after I listened to some testimony of some of

00:20:55.800 the other convoy involved people I'm like yeah it was kind of a miracle you people got there

00:21:00.520 with your like angry feuding factions of the convoy but um she wasn't sure but again instead of just

00:21:10.200 complaining she actually did something um and I think as the convoy rolled through the country

00:21:19.400 you could see the mandates were falling Saskatchewan convoy hit Saskatchewan Saskatchewan's like no we don't

00:21:24.920 have a vaccine passport anymore don't convoy me bro exactly so uh so you know it was quite effective

00:21:31.800 um let's go to clip one thanks how did you get involved in the freedom convoy a friend of mine

00:21:38.920 sent me mr barber's tiktok video uh where he was calling for a shutdown on the 23rd of january um

00:21:46.680 she sent me that video and I I watched it and I texted her back right away and I said well what do

00:21:51.960 you think about possibly another convoy to ottawa and she kind of laughed and said well it you know

00:21:56.520 it didn't really accomplish much I mean it was great to see the crowds come together but could

00:22:01.000 they just slow down a bit please sorry yes later yes sir uh and um and then I'd reached out to another

00:22:08.840 friend and I asked him the same thing and uh we just sort of came to the same conclusion that we weren't

00:22:14.920 sure if that was an idea that was that would be successful uh a friend of mine or an acquaintance

00:22:23.080 of mine from red deer that was involved in the united re-roll gave me mr barber's phone number

00:22:28.120 and I contacted him on january the 13th and we discussed I can't really remember the details of

00:22:34.680 the conversation I do remember um that I said I'm here to help you in any way I can my background is

00:22:42.920 logistics and organization and administration and you are going to need social media and you're going

00:22:48.920 to need some funding and if I can help you at all I'd be happy to do that

00:22:58.600 freedom in 2022 is not sitting idly by while health diktats with no skin in the game make up all the

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00:23:58.200 i changed my mind maybe my favorite speaker is going to be david menzies as long as he leaves the 0.71

00:24:05.080 fake boobs in the box 1.00

00:24:11.240 hi william how's it going i know it's been a very long day for you um covering the trucker commission 0.94

00:24:17.800 what did you think about tamara leach's testimony today i thought it was heartfelt i thought that the

00:24:22.280 commission lawyer because that's who she's examined by she starts cross-examination i think tomorrow

00:24:28.440 um what did you think about how the commission lawyer approached her uh we saw commission lawyers

00:24:35.880 be pretty testy um with the likes of james bowder but i think he was very like i think you realize you

00:24:44.440 can't push a tiny woman and save face like that yeah no for sure well first of all good evening 1.00

00:24:50.200 sheila good evening uh selene it's nice to see you guys i still you know i just came back from the

00:24:53.960 commission i still have my my accreditation badge on um definitely a very emotional testimony

00:25:01.800 by tamara leach i was in the room while she was giving her testimony me and kian we left the

00:25:07.000 media room and went to the public room to see her in person and yeah the crowd was definitely emotional

00:25:13.960 uh it was emotional to to hear everything that she went through simply for freedom her daughter

00:25:21.480 she didn't want her daughter to be associated with her imagine i know that you're a mother imagine how

00:25:25.480 it must feel to want to not want your daughter to be associated with you to be afraid teenagers they

00:25:33.080 don't want anything to do with i got teenagers they don't really want anything to do with

00:25:36.680 to see to see to see your your daughter you know to be afraid for for your daughters be afraid for

00:25:43.960 yourself hearing her talk about the way she was arrested in ottawa by the police it was it was such

00:25:51.080 an emotional an emotional moment it must have been really hard for her to give all that recollection i

00:25:56.440 think we saw that she she felt she she started crying in the stands um i think it was a good testimony

00:26:01.800 but i think it was a heartfelt deep felt one and not only that i do recall

00:26:06.600 sorry can we just i just want to point something out do you see how tiny she is 1.00

00:26:11.240 keith wilson's an average size guy maybe he's like six feet tall look how small she is

00:26:16.280 yeah she's not even up to his shoulder eva chippyuk and i are probably the same size 0.76

00:26:21.480 look how tiny tamara is she's the woman that scared justin trudeau so much that he hit the nuclear

00:26:30.680 button of the terrorism law the emergencies act what a delicate fragile fragile man justin trudeau is

00:26:39.080 yeah no one hundred percent i mean everything was peaceful we keep seeing that for the past weeks

00:26:45.480 the whole freedom conway was peaceful not once was the right act invoked which means that it wasn't an

00:26:51.160 illegal protest we keep seeing recollection from the police from the opp from everyone saying that it was a

00:26:56.520 peaceful protest not a single actual act of violence being presented in front of the commission we said

00:27:02.440 it was peaceful and justin trudeau still decided to invoke the emergency act to get that grandmother

00:27:08.680 from alberta arrested because she dared to defy his authoritarian leadership

00:27:17.480 go ahead selena i'm sure you have something to say

00:27:19.400 uh no i just i honestly just want to laugh a little bit because yeah he must be very afraid of

00:27:25.560 five four grandmas that go and want to help people and bring people together in the name of unity and

00:27:32.200 peace and love and be able to provide to these people by being responsible about the donations that

00:27:37.720 were provided through the gofundme and the other one through all the cryptos as well all those campaigns

00:27:43.640 i mean to take the responsibility to go and make sure that all your ducks in a row dealing with

00:27:48.920 like thousands of people and millions of dollars she covered her bases if you ask me but no he's

00:27:54.520 gonna sit there and he's gonna he's gonna call foul play and he's gonna call in a counter-terrorist act

00:28:00.280 in order to put a stop to a bunch of people in hot tubs and bouncy castles 0.97

00:28:05.800 do you know what that's a great uh segue into clip three because justin trudeau is fragile so fragile that

00:28:12.840 he would call people he never bothered to speak to names apropos of literally nothing um so why don't

00:28:20.520 we should throw to clip three this is tamara talking about what she felt as her prime minister is calling

00:28:29.320 her a racist sexist yeah i was becoming increasingly alarmed listening to my prime minister call me a racist

00:28:46.360 and say that i shouldn't be tolerated 0.93

00:28:51.560 i found his rhetoric to be incredibly divisive and i'm i'm a believer that if you're a leader of a country

00:28:58.200 you have to lead all of your people even if you don't agree with them and i i just saw so much

00:29:09.640 coming across canada every day i heard stories people at least three people would tell me they

00:29:14.360 were planning their suicides until we started the convoy or stories of people that we were too late

00:29:20.840 i heard from families that were living in their vehicles because they lost their jobs i heard from

00:29:31.960 people that had lost their jobs and lost everything

00:29:35.640 i have the tears of thousands of canadians on my shoulder

00:29:42.440 who every day told me that we were bringing them hope

00:29:45.000 i saw little old ladies praying on their knees on the side of the road and i saw little children

00:29:53.880 holding signs saying thank you for giving me back my future

00:30:01.160 you know i look at her and the way she talks about carrying the weight of all these people on her

00:30:07.480 shoulders reminds me of jordan peterson when he gets emotional when he's talking about helping young

00:30:12.520 men and he gets emotional because he's just taking on this burden he knows he has to help people he

00:30:19.320 doesn't know if he can but how do you say no and i think that's sort of the situation that she felt that

00:30:25.560 she was in you know every day they got closer to ottawa the crowds got bigger she heard more stories

00:30:32.360 and uh she still carries that weight obviously i think her coming out of the commission building 1.00

00:30:38.680 today symbolize basically what you're talking about right now and what we've been seeing the past

00:30:44.200 months there was probably a crowd of 50 people 50 plus people outside the commission waiting for her

00:30:49.640 clapping for her as she was coming out encouraging her showing her love and then on the other side

00:30:55.080 of the road you had this one lady who's always there yelling at her yelling at her lawyers yelling at 1.00

00:31:01.640 chris barber yelling at danny balfour saying that they are terrorists calling them names i think it's

00:31:07.640 i think it reminds me of the convoy you have justin trudeau the one person calling them names

00:31:12.920 calling them that they're terrorists telling them that they shouldn't be they shouldn't be accepted

00:31:17.560 they should be dealt with and then on the other side you have the whole people who are participating

00:31:22.760 the freedom convoy showing them love um i think the clip that we just saw was one of the many

00:31:28.040 emotional clips of the night where it's merrily she spoke from her heart and really was honest and i

00:31:34.360 i think it felt good for her finally being able to talk about all of this because her bail conditions

00:31:39.640 don't allow her to talk that way unfortunately that's that's the kind that we're living in right now 0.99

00:31:45.880 absolutely a hundred percent and like especially for me the fact that the entire time through this

00:31:52.760 entire commission the the narrative is that they tried so hard to have anybody from the government

00:32:00.360 pay attention and speak with them and now she finally has the opportunity to have not just them

00:32:06.280 listening but everybody else as well and it's impressive to me that she's been able to hold

00:32:11.560 back for so long with bail conditions such as the ones that she has isn't it fascinating that justin

00:32:18.120 trudeau fancies himself to be a male feminist which is always um i use that phrase interchangeably with

00:32:25.320 future molester but um isn't it funny how he fancies himself to be this supporter of women's rights and

00:32:33.240 strong powerful women and every single woman who stands up to him he smashes back down he did it to 1.00

00:32:42.600 our former ag he did it to selena chavez boy i forget her name she doesn't like us but i don't care i 0.83

00:32:53.640 don't take anything personally um from bc yes that's right rose knight from bc and now tamara leach the

00:33:02.440 woman who inspired a nation but not just inspired a nation inspired a movement around the world

00:33:10.920 convoys were happening in holland the united states australia and what did he do he used the

00:33:18.680 most powerful tool of the government to put her back in her place and good for her she refuses to 1.00

00:33:26.120 capitulate she's holding strong she she just won't back down good for her and he he tried to divide the

00:33:33.960 country as well you know he he used divisive terms he used divisive pejorative language and that's that's

00:33:40.040 one thing that also came up to mind when i was hearing tamara leach testify you know before she would 0.70

00:33:44.600 work with an independence party in alberta right she would work with i believe the mob the maverick

00:33:49.800 party or maybe the wexit maverick yeah we talked about it before you were back we talked about

00:33:53.960 you back yeah so so she worked with the maverick party and then she decided not to work with them

00:33:58.280 because she saw that quebecers were not quite different from alberta and just to put that as an

00:34:04.840 just to show the comparison instead of wanting a divided canada she wanted to she wanted a united canada

00:34:12.280 and to the contrary the prime minister who's supposed to represent every single canadian from

00:34:17.560 coast to coast to coast wants to divide canadians and this grandmother who's not in politics whatsoever 0.99

00:34:25.480 wants to unite the country yep now uh that would let's move to ben dichter and the only reason i'm

00:34:34.840 moving to ben dichter and away from tamara leach is just something that he said um i realized that there's

00:34:40.920 been a falling out with several people within the convoy they sort of yeah they sort of went into

00:34:48.520 their own corners after first lawyers get involved um and i'm not saying that was a bad thing they

00:34:55.400 definitely needed legal advice but they also needed to practice a little bit of political and social

00:34:59.880 hygiene they needed to get rid of some of the people who just couldn't control their mouths pat king

00:35:05.560 um and uh james bowder who wrote that crazy crazy mou about i guess subverting parliament and having

00:35:17.160 some sort of panel of canadians i don't know who would choose them um maybe james i don't know and

00:35:24.040 going around parliament and dealing with the senate so unelected people here and elected people over

00:35:29.480 there we're gonna call it democracy i don't know but anyways he was he published that you know they

00:35:35.880 wanted to distance themselves away from i guess somebody who is advocating for i'm not saying an

00:35:42.120 overthrow of the government but just a complete and total rewrite of our constitutional democracy

00:35:47.320 um but anyways um so they're they were sort of distancing themselves you see falling out with

00:35:53.320 one of the other convoy early convoy organizers uh bridget belton um and he i think they've

00:36:00.840 completely fallen out with ben dichter um i i saw yesterday that keith wilson tamir's lawyer has said

00:36:07.800 we need an accounting of the crypto we don't know what happened to it and and ben's never produced

00:36:12.760 that at least according to keith i don't know um if ben would talk to us i'd love to ask him um but

00:36:19.400 even he said that she's not extreme she's just a practical grandma so why don't we i think that's

00:36:26.840 uh clip six learn about misleachist politics what was she trying to do what was she hoping to achieve 1.00

00:36:33.880 what was her interest you know what i don't know it's really interesting because she's she's really

00:36:38.040 practical and um i wouldn't call her extreme to any side i would say she's i don't like the labels

00:36:46.200 it's the problem uh so the political spectrum thing i would call her maybe very center right 1.00

00:36:53.640 if we're going to use that antiquated um definition which i don't think is accurate but she's very very

00:37:00.600 pro you know she's no i know i'm very libertarian on social issues and she's the same way so we we

00:37:06.200 crossed over a lot of that stuff

00:37:09.960 so even in spite of their big falling out which i don't know why they feel i there's a lot of palace

00:37:15.400 intrigue and like i said the more i listen to some of the convoy factions talk the more i'm

00:37:20.280 surprised they ever got to ottawa although they are less disorganized than the ops i'll give them

00:37:26.920 i'll give them that um but even he said you know like she's just practical she's not radical she's 0.99

00:37:31.720 completely normal she's um a libertarian on social issues and you know like she's not 1.00

00:37:38.440 that which the federal government said she is

00:37:43.640 a hundred percent um i think it's very apparent that there's been a falling out and i don't think

00:37:48.440 i realized how much there's been a falling out until i've seen i'm i'm pretty sure this is true

00:37:54.440 all the freedom uh convoy organizers have answered a question from you is that right up until today

00:38:00.280 no because there are some that juts through bail conditions they're not allowed to well

00:38:05.000 there's not a lot to answer questions ben dicter as well well ben dicter doesn't have

00:38:09.400 bail conditions he just refused to to answer my question today not ben dicter sorry chris yeah

00:38:14.040 that's what happens when you spend a whole day at the inquiry and you take two coffee

00:38:19.960 but yeah chris barber is not allowed to because he does he has bail conditions but i was able to speak

00:38:24.040 with some of us but of course otherwise i believe that these individuals would definitely answer some

00:38:28.360 question from some independent media such as us such as rebel and um ben dicter that was really

00:38:35.560 interesting to watch there was such an undertone of sarcasm in his testimony that i could yeah hostile yes

00:38:43.480 yeah no and i just i didn't i don't i don't have an account of seeing that from any of the other um

00:38:51.320 freedom convoy uh testimonies thus far yeah and i think you know i was able to speak with jim jim

00:38:56.840 carol halios after ben dicter's uh testimony and i was able to have a quick interview which is by the

00:39:03.320 his lawyer right yeah also jim carol halios yeah he he's the the co-founder with melinda carol halios

00:39:09.640 and the leader of the new blue party he also studied law i believe at the university of ottawa which is

00:39:14.280 right right next to here and he's a lawyer so he was the counsel for ben victor during ben

00:39:19.960 dicter's testimony but he wasn't given standing so he's not allowed to cross-examine the other

00:39:24.120 witnesses he's not allowed to be present throughout the whole inquiry room but in any

00:39:28.280 regard i was able to get a quick interview with him which is going to come out tomorrow and yeah

00:39:33.640 honestly both tom keith and ben dicter the two sides give two different versions of the story i think they

00:39:43.640 they don't seem to recall the events the exact same way and i think ego definitely played a part

00:39:49.720 in this division yes and i wonder how much of it is palace intrigue i know that they started to

00:39:56.600 distance themselves from certain convoy organizers and i know for a time ben was doing comms and

00:40:01.640 i'm only speculating here but maybe they quit communicating with ben because they didn't think

00:40:06.520 he was doing a good job of comms and i might suggest that that is true considering he went on rt

00:40:11.880 which is russian state television to troll cbc and i'm not sure that's a great comms strategy when

00:40:22.440 cbc is already accusing you of being kremlin backed so i i i don't know i don't know again i don't know

00:40:29.400 what happened there i'd love to ask uh ben but he won't take a question from us um and we would love to

00:40:36.600 yeah i mean we we talked to tom marazzo we talked to keith wilson who's doing a lot of speaking on

00:40:42.600 behalf of tamara leach and the other convoy organizers who can't we want everybody to be

00:40:47.560 able to have their say we want the p the public to sort it out um and so again uh let me extend

00:40:55.400 this offer right now to ben dichter if he's watching just take some questions from our guys we

00:41:00.920 won't edit it we won't chop it that's not what we do we just want to ask you some questions the

00:41:05.240 same way we do everybody else yeah well i think in all fairness so i was able to get an interview

00:41:09.480 with jim and he was able to tell me uh ben's jim's great it would be great yeah it would be great to

00:41:14.280 have ben's ben's own accounts of what his view of the convoy what his view of the organization and

00:41:20.920 tom marazzo and keith wilson is yeah and we like jim carahelios jim's great i like belinda i like jim i

00:41:29.000 like kind of how prickly they are they don't like being told what to do um i like how feisty they are

00:41:34.920 um so i mean obviously they have a feisty client um but yeah i mean we just we just want to ask

00:41:40.840 questions and uh the good news is i don't take anything personally um why don't we go to clip

00:41:46.760 nine because um i alluded to this person before it's james bowder he's with canada unity he was

00:41:54.040 an early convoy organizer he's the guy who is responsible for the crazy mou that the media then 0.69

00:42:01.720 took and used to paint the entirety of the convoy is oh you're all trying to overthrow the government

00:42:06.920 and said tamara and tom were like what um but anyway um he was on the stand today and it was a

00:42:13.160 little bit more like a therapy session and again it's because these people have been silenced for so

00:42:19.320 long that and they've never been able to speak and they can speak in this commission without having

00:42:25.800 their words used against them um and there was a point at which i noticed the government lawyers

00:42:32.600 were sort of probing him on his um political ideology which that's not what this is about

00:42:38.600 they were sort of asking him like do you believe nine do you believe 9 11 is an inside job why are

00:42:43.240 you sharing q and on blah blah blah blah i'm thinking but this is not a thought crime commission

00:42:49.400 uh comrade this is about justin trudeau and you're allowed to hold crazy ideas ask me about aliens it's

00:42:57.560 not illegal in this country to have crazy viewpoints it's when your crazy viewpoints turn violent then

00:43:03.960 we've got a problem but they didn't even break a window there so um i just thought that was peculiar

00:43:10.040 that they were trying to discredit james bowder because i don't know maybe he's into q anon i don't

00:43:15.080 care i know that obviously he's into homemade lawyering that's what i learned about james

00:43:19.240 bowder today um but uh let's go to clip nine because regardless again deeply emotional um

00:43:27.320 whatever his motivations are he could not stand idly by why while people were discriminated against and

00:43:33.080 maybe his viewpoint of our uh you know our constitutional monarchy is a little bit skewed but

00:43:39.800 again not illegal not terrorism uh let's go to clip nine let's just stay calm please i'm no i know

00:43:47.480 you're you're emotional and that and that's understandable but if you try and just keep it

00:43:53.000 down no i don't apologize i don't have to apologize i will just i will calm down just just this is

00:43:57.800 emotional when we see our government completely violating all the laws i understand there's where do

00:44:04.280 we turn to the senate is our last hope and that's what's in their paychecks and their job descriptions

00:44:15.320 there are plenty of times where he was it was bizarre right guys he was calling for his own

00:44:20.360 evidence like usually you just the other witnesses sit there and then they show them evidence and then

00:44:25.160 they ask him question about the evidence and he's like got like got his list of evidence that he wants

00:44:30.200 to talk about it was really weird what was it like being in the room yeah well i think as you stated

00:44:36.120 earlier you know having different political beliefs is not a reason to invoke the emergency

00:44:39.640 i can work here you know the name of the inquiry is the emergencies act inquiry we're here to figure

00:44:45.960 out whether or not the use of the emergency act was justified and hence necessary and someone's

00:44:52.840 political belief whether or not someone believes in 9-11 whether or not someone believes in ghosts or

00:44:58.600 or wearing shoes as a matter of fact it has nothing to do with the commission the commission is to

00:45:04.680 figure out so paul champ asking him questions about his political beliefs i think i think to a certain

00:45:11.320 degree he was trying to paint him as someone who is not choice worthy he was trying to do character

00:45:17.320 assassination and i think that was his goal because otherwise why on earth would you ask someone

00:45:24.200 whether or not he believes in 9-11 when your goal is to figure out whether or not the protest was

00:45:28.200 peaceful 100 percent agreed he literally said yes to going back and doing another period of

00:45:34.280 examination just to tear james bowder apart some more i was like who like who gave the okay well

00:45:41.960 i know the commissioner gave the okay but like it just it goes without signs like i thought it was

00:45:45.960 quite apparent what was happening it's paul chang yeah yeah yeah there you go that's didn't it didn't he

00:45:53.480 didn't you ever run in with him the first couple days yeah yeah yeah paul champ of tax tax the rich

00:46:02.280 sticker on his laptop i'm like god you're a ottawa lawyer you're the rich like you're the guy like

00:46:09.960 you're the guy you're fighting but you're in court or the commission cross-examining blue-collar

00:46:16.280 people you want blue-collar people to pay for all of this when they rose up against the rich elites

00:46:22.440 isn't that weird um yeah like the james bowder's testimony i i mean he's he's wrong sincere passionate

00:46:31.880 wrong like wrong about how canada works but again being wrong is not a crime being a little bit out

00:46:40.280 there is not a crime like encrypted not a crime i'm throw me in jail but i mean he he was it was really

00:46:49.960 weird though because the judge to his credit i thought was very patient with him let him go off

00:46:58.120 on his little tangents let him call for his own evidence which was weird um and was very patient

00:47:05.960 with him when he got emotional because he did get emotional a few times um like when he tried to take

00:47:11.720 credit for convoys across the world and he was he said thank you or something um it was strange but

00:47:19.160 i got to give credit to justice rouleau and i was not convinced that he would be fair and even-handed

00:47:24.040 but he is really respectful of how sincere these people are yeah i think judge rule is a fair judge

00:47:32.120 i think we've seen this throughout the commission in the beginning some people did have

00:47:35.080 doubts about him because yeah because he's someone who had in a certain way ties with the liberal party

00:47:42.680 we saw that come up even throughout the commission but i think once again as i mentioned when we're

00:47:47.800 talking about peter slowly your political beliefs and your personal beliefs don't necessarily impact

00:47:53.960 the way you do your job and i think we're seeing that with judge rule i think he's able to be extremely

00:47:58.680 fair he's able to be extremely impartial and i'm honestly extremely glad to see that happening

00:48:03.400 i have nothing to add i agree with exactly what you just said regarding rouleau yeah i i think it's

00:48:10.040 i think it's tough to deal with people that are like really deep into their emotions and

00:48:13.880 to be honest from my perspective i think that when um bowder was was thanking them you know or

00:48:20.120 taking credit so to speak for you know the inspiration that we saw across the world i think it also

00:48:25.240 just points to the enormity of the burden that some of these organizers felt that rested on their

00:48:30.120 shoulders yeah rightly or wrongly they took credit for things they didn't do um let's uh let's uh go back

00:48:41.400 to ben dichter for a second um because he's not charged with anything though he was um i i don't know if

00:48:53.080 he's an organizer but he was part of the communications team of the convoy and not just a protester he had

00:49:00.520 sort of an official capacity as anybody can have an official capacity in a completely organic movement

00:49:05.000 where just people came together and then now i guess they've all come apart again um but uh

00:49:11.160 he wanted to stay it sounded like so when which i found odd because the people who were obviously

00:49:19.320 negotiating an end to the occupation um and there's a paper trail to reflect that um

00:49:27.720 those are the ones that got charged with mischief which is weird but ben dichter didn't get charged

00:49:31.800 with anything and it sounds like he wanted to stay because he was sort of upset that they were

00:49:36.760 negotiating um or when he found out that they were sort of negotiating an end to the occupation

00:49:43.480 but then all of a sudden the police got violent and he's like we got to get out of here i think it's clip

00:49:48.120 seven

00:49:48.600 we could help influence people more but that's not a guarantee and that actually came up on the 18th

00:49:58.680 when the road captains came into my hotel after a trucker had guns drawn out him as they smashed his

00:50:06.520 windows the police pulled guns on him arrested him in the snow uh tamara had been arrested chris had

00:50:12.280 been arrested the road captains came into my uh room there seemed to be i don't know if a lack of

00:50:17.800 leadership but maybe a lack of decision making or they needed just another head to bounce ideas off of

00:50:23.320 and they told me the story and i said okay well i'll support what you guys want to do

00:50:31.320 but if you're asking me if the police are getting violent maybe it's time to leave and to my surprise

00:50:39.000 the first person to pipe up was bridget and she said we can't let people get hurt we need to leave

00:50:44.520 and then joe did the same thing and all the other road captains that were sitting on my bed and

00:50:48.200 standing up and johnny

00:50:53.320 it's weird sounds like he was a decision maker so i wonder why he didn't get charged

00:50:58.760 i also believe that at this time he was in a wheelchair due to that car accident so i can't

00:51:04.920 imagine anyone would really want to stay for a prolonged duration in such cold weather like such cold

00:51:12.200 weather and the extreme circumstances that they were under while in a wheelchair i'm i'm confused

00:51:17.880 right that responsibility fell on his shoulders yeah no i think there's a lot of confusion throughout

00:51:24.360 i agree with what selene said she's truly expert in what exactly happened today she was the one like

00:51:29.960 tweeting doing all the hard words they following everything super closely uh yeah that was an excellent

00:51:35.400 job many coffees many coffees um and let's just before we go um if someone could if we have any

00:51:46.120 chats that we need to do could you put them in the thread please thank you olivia or efron or whoever's

00:51:51.960 doing that let's just go to the one last thing because um there's a lot of talk about well what happens

00:51:59.800 to what happened to the money um and uh they were not able to disperse it and tamara addresses that

00:52:09.000 in um i i don't know what uh what uh clip it is but uh i'm sure you you can find it olivia

00:52:17.960 in that same report i won't turn it up but uh it indicates that uh most of the one million dollars was

00:52:24.440 was frozen and you weren't able to withdraw it from the account is that correct that's correct

00:52:28.520 do you recall how much you were able to withdraw uh i believe it was 26 000 so ten thousand dollars

00:52:35.480 of that uh if you would like me to break it down for you you're anticipating my question so yes please

00:52:40.680 go ahead uh ten thousand dollars of that was wired to a bulk fuel supplier uh three thousand dollars was

00:52:47.720 e-transferred to another fuel provider uh chris and i had gone down sorry mr barber and i had gone

00:52:53.880 down to the td and we uh withdrew three thousand in cash from one account and ten thousand in cash

00:53:02.040 from um or sorry one branch and then went to the next branch and then um and i remember being very

00:53:10.360 nervous about it because i was very conscious that we needed receipts when we needed to be accountable

00:53:14.840 and uh um and they were the the road captains that went out and bought whatever supplies fuel uh they i

00:53:21.560 believe some of that went to fuel um and they were when they brought the receipts back there was

00:53:26.360 actually extra money uh in the in the kitty so

00:53:34.120 all along people accuse her of taking off with the money no the only person who tried to take off

00:53:39.320 with the money by the way was doug ford when he got an injunction to try to seize all their um crowd

00:53:45.720 funding uh he tried to enrich himself through this but she's very careful she realized that there would

00:53:52.200 be extreme scrutiny on her with the handling of the money and uh i forget who testified earlier this week

00:53:58.920 that they did have an accountant who was brought in to help them but they never really got any access

00:54:05.480 to the money so uh as paul champ would would ask is the accountant jew that's what yeah what a weirdo

00:54:14.040 such a non-racist such a non-racist person right um no i think i really can't believe we can see that

00:54:20.680 it is extremely they're super meticulous is that the word i'm tired is that the word meticulous meticulous

00:54:27.080 yes right yeah they were more organized in the than the ops in my opinion and i think tamara

00:54:33.000 seeing her testimony about the money about the accountability that she had that she had shows

00:54:39.640 how much of the how much of the convoy actually relied on her shoulder and how much of the pressure 0.95

00:54:46.120 she felt yeah she must have felt every day yeah and even though she didn't proclaim herself as the

00:54:51.160 the leader people did paint her as such and so that's really important that despite how she thought

00:54:55.880 about herself she did go out of her way to address their concerns and be responsible on behalf of how much

00:55:01.080 money was actually donated yeah you know just a quick side note she had to prove she was matey

00:55:09.000 to those psychotic people on the internet they said she was just i forget what they call it pretendian

00:55:16.120 or whatever that she was just faking it so that she would have uh you know this cloak of invisibility

00:55:22.520 because of social justice and she had to like literally produce her heritage to stop the 1.00

00:55:32.040 allegations that she didn't look native enough or indigenous enough and so she couldn't possibly

00:55:38.440 be matey like just disgusting i thought you could self-identify as anything you wanted these days by the 0.76

00:55:43.480 the way anyway but yeah no she literally proved it well let's think imagine if a leftist person 0.97

00:55:49.400 i was actually told hey are you sure you are meti are you sure that that's really what you are

00:55:55.560 how much of an outrage would have caused within the cbc ctv global news david atkin would probably go yeah

00:56:01.880 that person but since it was smarily since she is freedom oriented she since she is sent to ride as

00:56:08.920 the dictator was saying it was totally fine to question her origins um olivia informs me last

00:56:16.520 minute edition from efron before we get to the chats and we'll sign off because you guys have been

00:56:21.960 working um 12 hours i think we're headed on to for you guys um it's a snarky yeah you got by the way

00:56:30.440 this snarky quip is about alberta and you guys are working like alberta kids so uh good for you guys

00:56:36.040 william welcome to western work ethic um the great province of alberta

00:56:43.080 no we're we're we're being we're being what's the word i keep forgetting my words because i'm so

00:56:48.440 tired didn't you say you're being overtaken by alberta yeah we're being over the colonized

00:56:53.480 we're being colonized now you're gonna have sheila who's gonna come at the rbnb we have saline 1.00

00:56:57.320 we've got tian we're being colonized by alberta at the moment you'll never know when i come i'm

00:57:03.000 just gonna pop in like i do to my son's house to make sure everything's clean and tidy i'll just

00:57:07.960 show up one day um anyways we've got a snarky clip about alberta from commissioner rollo

00:57:17.800 our friends from the ottawa police service who had raised the issue and uh with some of your

00:57:22.200 commission yeah i think it's lawyers have to be aware of the rule it's basically the same rule as

00:57:29.720 applies to in courts and you can't speak about the cross-examination on the evidence you can prepare

00:57:39.960 but that's a different matter and the line obviously we rely on lawyers to respect that

00:57:46.120 obviously i'm sure it's the same in alberta

00:57:48.680 kind of yes sir yes oh we're all one country

00:57:58.280 thanks for love for that yeah thank you we are all one country thanks reminder you guys aren't

00:58:03.880 separated yet i think he needs to watch um ungovernable i think uh yeah made by rebels

00:58:09.160 keen simoni yeah i think that'd be a good start you know that's uh they were the exchange there was

00:58:14.840 because tamara is staying in an airbnb it sounds like with uh brendan miller and some of the other 0.99

00:58:22.440 lawyers and since she's still testifying she's still under oath and they just wanted to make sure

00:58:27.160 that they're not going to get in trouble for talking to her now they're not supposed to talk

00:58:32.600 about her testimony upcoming or what happened today um but they just wanted to make sure because

00:58:38.920 people call and tattle on tamara all the time for everything she said she was outside and somebody 0.99

00:58:45.240 called the cops because she was having a smoke um obviously somebody called the cops when she got her

00:58:51.240 picture taken and then she was taken back to jail um even though there were lawyers around so they just

00:58:56.920 wanted to be ultra careful that nobody calls the cops and she's breached on her conditions or she's

00:59:02.360 accused of breaking the rules of the commission and then big big trouble so um just just a quick

00:59:08.280 cutie clip i think i believe i'm 99 sure they are allowed to talk about the upcoming testimony

00:59:15.640 they're just not allowed to talk about what she said what she said now yeah okay thanks stickler

00:59:24.200 take a look at the chats now yeah you're tired but you're still a stickler um okay we've got

00:59:30.760 one from annalisa 1964 gives us 10 bucks uh no love here for the stickler uh hello

00:59:38.200 you awesome ladies today precious tamara made me cry a lot of people a lot of people uh i think 0.68

00:59:44.360 she moved to tears my heart is so broken for her i admire her strength i don't know how she's not

00:59:49.240 bitter and evil and just looking for vengeance and blood because i would be she's a better woman than 0.99

00:59:54.840 me that's for sure you and me both yeah better christian than me that's for sure you know vengeance is

01:00:03.240 mine say it's the lord but i'd like a little piece too you know i don't i don't appreciate

01:00:08.920 being misgendered annalisa i my pronouns are i would please ask you to respect my pronouns

01:00:15.320 otherwise bill c16 might be in vote on you um no tamara alicia's testimony was definitely heartbreaking

01:00:22.680 i was in the crowd once again while she was giving her testimony uh i might have just been tiredness but i

01:00:28.920 i know i i felt my my eyes filled with water a little bit and i know some people in the crowd

01:00:33.640 were crying i was walking back with chris barber as we're exiting the the commission he spoke to me

01:00:40.040 about you know the emotion that he felt and the emotion he felt in the crowd was definitely a

01:00:46.200 heartbreaking testimony everything that this strong brave woman went through it's it's astonishing i never

01:00:51.720 thought i would live in a country where this is the case yeah my natural default to to avoid being

01:00:57.080 emotional like that is to get mad so that's where i'll just stay so that i don't have runny mascara

01:01:03.000 i'll just stay angry i'm gonna take that and i'm gonna keep that in mind yeah don't be angry like me be

01:01:12.360 a nice person um and we've got one from uh it sounds like it's from our re-stream so people are leaving

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01:01:25.080 if you want to do that you don't have to stick around to the end um feel free to just leave a

01:01:29.720 chat whenever you're watching and we'll do our best to round them up and read them at the end of

01:01:32.920 the day so this one 71 bucks holy heck says stop machine voting i think okay um we stand on guard

01:01:40.680 trudeau useless leader no meetings no peace talks honking heroes thank you canadian government beat

01:01:45.640 peaceful protesters outrageous and that's from alice bb well alice thanks so much um and again if you 0.92

01:01:54.680 want to be like alice and just leave a chat as you're watching we'll be happy to take it you don't

01:01:59.320 have to wait till the end of the day i think that's everything guys just thank you so much for watching

01:02:03.640 the stream by the way uh alice thank you for your generous donation uh yeah people stay peaceful

01:02:09.400 that's what we've seen throughout the convoy everything was peaceful and everything is still

01:02:13.160 peaceful with the supporters that are outside the commission building peace peace peacefulness

01:02:19.560 the william recap ladies and gentlemen yes uh okay i think that's it you guys are tired probably

01:02:26.440 hungry i know you didn't eat because you guys have just raced over from the commission to jump on the

01:02:31.080 stream and yeah it's like 20 to 9 for you guys uh guys great work today you guys are back at it

01:02:37.560 tomorrow so don't stay up too late um get something to eat go to bed um we'll be back here tomorrow uh

01:02:45.480 tamara leach's testimony should wrap up maybe by noon and then we'll have some other people testifying 0.99

01:02:53.320 um should be an exciting day tomorrow i'm not sure who's going to be on the stream tomorrow

01:02:57.640 definitely you too maybe not me um and as david menzies always says stay sane

01:03:07.240 um my my reference to i don't care about his past is that i'm i had to believe

01:03:18.200 that everybody that was involved was getting involved for the right reasons and um as i said when i

01:03:27.960 spoke with mr barber that and i found out that they were involved i was aware of his reputation and um

01:03:35.720 i just felt that i didn't want to start this off

01:03:40.200 um criticizing other people again because i just felt like i had to believe that people that were

01:03:50.280 joining this movement were joining it with the best of intentions regardless of of their past

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01:04:23.320 constant attack by justin trudeau through his censorship bills his attacks on gun rights his

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Rebel News Podcast - November 04, 2022

BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 16 ｜ Tamara Lich testifies

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