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00:00:20.240 It's my name. I'm the Rebel Commander here at rebelnews.com. What a pleasure to be with you.

00:00:24.560 You know, we have been covering this trucker commission since the very beginning.

00:00:27.900 Not just covering it, covering it like green on broccoli. We are all over it.

00:00:33.700 Not only do we live stream the proceedings raw all day, but we have a dedicated team in Ottawa.

00:00:39.360 We rented an Airbnb right next to the Commission of Inquiry. It's such a short walk, it's wonderful.

00:00:45.200 Four bedrooms there for our journalists to stay. We've turned the kitchen into a studio where we're interviewing guests every night.

00:00:51.520 And we're rotating reporters through. The other day, Sidney Fazzard from our Alberta office was there.

00:00:55.740 Mocha Bersergum was there. I even did a tour of Drew there for one day.

00:01:00.400 This past week, we've had a Celine Glass from our Calgary office.

00:01:05.280 And of course, we have a full-time reporter in Ottawa.

00:01:08.040 His name is William Diaz Bertheon. He's just been doing a great job.

00:01:12.300 And besides cutting clips, interesting video clips all day,

00:01:16.920 we live-tweet the proceedings, and then at night, we have this summary live stream that you are watching now.

00:01:26.080 Now, normally, we have William and Celine and sometimes Sheila and others on the live stream,

00:01:31.580 but you know what they're doing right now?

00:01:34.160 They are scrumming Brenda Luckey.

00:01:37.880 The RCMP chief commissioner, hand-picked by Justin True, and you can see why.

00:01:43.760 You know, Shakespeare said, what's in a name?

00:01:47.060 A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

00:01:52.800 Brenda Luckey is lucky.

00:01:56.700 She's lucky she was appointed because she lacks the ethical integrity

00:02:01.540 or the experience to be a chief commissioner on her own.

00:02:04.020 She lacks the charisma to command the RCMP.

00:02:09.520 She's lucky in that her skill set matches Justin Trudeau's needs,

00:02:16.140 and he's lucky that he found someone who matches his needs.

00:02:23.240 The need for a compliant, complicit, and corrupt police chief

00:02:26.960 who will turn the other way when he blindly and brazenly commits crimes.

00:02:31.640 And I don't say that as a wild insult.

00:02:35.420 We know, for example, that when Justin Trudeau illegally accepted a $100,000 secret vacation

00:02:44.660 on Billionaire Island in the Bahamas, courtesy of the Aga Khan,

00:02:49.220 we know that the RCMP went through what Trudeau did,

00:02:54.120 had a flow chart, and said he broke the law.

00:02:58.020 But for political reasons, the RCMP refused to lay charges.

00:03:04.140 Lucky indeed.

00:03:07.080 Hey, let me show you this video from Canada Day.

00:03:10.260 I think it was back in 2015.

00:03:14.080 Justin Trudeau has this sexist, gropey,

00:03:17.200 Me Too, Weinstein, Epstein move that he does.

00:03:20.880 When women are near him,

00:03:22.740 he likes to dominate them in this sexual, physical way.

00:03:26.120 And he does it in public so they can't squirm away or object.

00:03:32.080 He loves doing it at cabinet swearing's in.

00:03:35.060 He loves doing it when all the cameras are on him and a woman next to him,

00:03:38.840 and he grabs her inappropriately and gropes her.

00:03:41.560 Because in that split second, the woman, if it was in a private setting,

00:03:45.000 would recoil or pull away.

00:03:46.440 So get your hands off her, would shove them away.

00:03:48.460 But because it's usually a moment of her famousness or her excitement,

00:03:51.980 she says, well, I don't want to make a scene because everyone's looking at me.

00:03:56.040 And so she accepts the groping.

00:03:58.940 I don't know if you can call up some of those images, Ephraim,

00:04:02.840 but we've shown them before,

00:04:05.000 of Trudeau getting inappropriately close right in the physical space

00:04:10.380 of every woman who works for him.

00:04:13.560 It's like you must allow yourself to be touched and hugged.

00:04:17.880 And I'm talking a chest-to-chest hug.

00:04:20.560 Yeah, that's a picture right there.

00:04:22.400 That's just one example right there.

00:04:24.220 Who's that?

00:04:27.600 That's Anita Anand.

00:04:30.460 Would you, in a work environment,

00:04:34.040 touch your subordinate like that,

00:04:36.900 if you're a man and that's a woman?

00:04:38.520 And that's not even the most intimate.

00:04:40.940 Show me some more of them.

00:04:41.880 He did it with Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:04:44.320 He did it with the past governor general.

00:04:46.620 He literally put his hand on the bum

00:04:48.360 of the previous governor general.

00:04:52.060 He does it with every woman in his cabinet.

00:04:57.200 Yeah, just put that whole search results.

00:04:59.820 You don't have to, just put the whole thing up there.

00:05:02.880 If you Google Trudeau hugging and boost it a bit,

00:05:06.000 who hugs a woman who works for him chest-to-chest?

00:05:17.480 Well, Trudeau does.

00:05:18.620 It's really gross.

00:05:25.100 It's a me-too moment.

00:05:28.520 And he does it to assert dominance

00:05:30.460 over the women around him.

00:05:32.180 And he knows because if they blink in that moment,

00:05:34.900 they embarrass themselves.

00:05:36.540 And I say this because look at how he treats

00:05:43.100 the chief commissioner of the RCMP.

00:05:46.620 Can you call it that video clip?

00:05:48.020 It's just a five-second-long clip.

00:05:50.600 So she's dressed in her full regalia.

00:05:53.500 This is when there's criminal investigations

00:05:55.560 or, yeah, criminal investigations into his misconduct.

00:05:58.840 And he goes right up to her in public, cameras on.

00:06:04.120 And that's the key part.

00:06:05.360 He would never do it in private.

00:06:07.260 He has to do it in public.

00:06:09.520 And he goes up to her, hugs her, and kisses her

00:06:12.300 while she's investigating him on the SNC-Lavalin matter.

00:06:20.700 Why is he doing that?

00:06:22.060 Is that a normal way to greet

00:06:23.820 the chief commissioner of the RCMP?

00:06:26.760 It is not.

00:06:28.840 Is that the normal way to greet someone

00:06:31.120 who works for you if they're subordinate to you

00:06:33.520 and a woman?

00:06:34.040 No, it is not.

00:06:35.220 Are they truly that close?

00:06:36.480 No, they are not.

00:06:38.380 It's like a dog peeing on something.

00:06:40.840 I'm dominant.

00:06:41.580 This is my turn.

00:06:43.320 I will, you are the chief commissioner of the RCMP.

00:06:46.260 I should be scared of you

00:06:47.420 because I, on the face of it, committed a crime.

00:06:50.400 Your own officer said so.

00:06:54.560 And you're investigating me.

00:06:56.160 But I want to show you who's boss.

00:06:59.320 I'm going to come up to you,

00:07:00.400 the officer who's investigating me.

00:07:03.420 No one less than the chief commissioner of the RCMP,

00:07:05.880 the highest office in the RCMP.

00:07:09.500 You are investigating me,

00:07:11.180 but I am not scared of you.

00:07:12.500 You should be scared of me

00:07:13.680 because I am dominant.

00:07:15.080 I am going to now hug you.

00:07:16.620 We don't know each other.

00:07:18.180 But I know your place,

00:07:19.700 and your place is beneath me.

00:07:21.000 I'm going to hug you and embrace you

00:07:22.980 and kiss you cheek to cheek.

00:07:24.660 And I'm not going to do it in private

00:07:25.860 because that would be weird.

00:07:28.040 And you would recoil.

00:07:28.920 I'm going to do it in public

00:07:29.800 so you cannot recoil.

00:07:31.380 It would make a scene if you did.

00:07:34.080 Because I want to let you know who's boss.

00:07:36.160 And Brenda Luckey is so lucky

00:07:38.360 because she's willing to go along with it.

00:07:40.640 She will literally do anything

00:07:42.300 to get that affirmative action appointment.

00:07:46.560 Brenda Luckey

00:07:47.140 is not qualified to be

00:07:49.720 the chief commissioner of the RCMP

00:07:50.960 except in one regard.

00:07:54.020 She will literally do anything

00:07:55.460 Justin Trudeau tells her to do.

00:08:01.140 Now, I tell you this

00:08:02.180 because she was testifying today

00:08:03.700 in front of the

00:08:05.420 Trucker Commission of Inquiry.

00:08:09.360 And she was asked some questions.

00:08:11.740 I think we've got some clips here.

00:08:13.000 And I'm going to show you these clips.

00:08:14.520 The reason that I'm alone

00:08:15.720 on this live stream right now

00:08:17.200 but I'll be joined shortly

00:08:18.040 by my colleagues

00:08:18.740 is because

00:08:21.520 William Diaz Berthiom

00:08:23.820 and Celine Glass

00:08:24.660 were out scrumming

00:08:26.720 Brenda Luckey.

00:08:29.220 And I understand

00:08:29.800 that they got a question to her.

00:08:31.040 We'll be very interested in that.

00:08:32.300 We'll process that

00:08:33.600 and upload it as soon as we can.

00:08:35.960 So,

00:08:37.300 Celine and William

00:08:38.020 were covering

00:08:38.580 the Trucker Commission

00:08:39.360 inquiry today.

00:08:40.940 Brenda Luckey's

00:08:41.780 testimony ran late.

00:08:43.160 Benchy was scrummed

00:08:45.900 and our people were there.

00:08:47.600 So, that's why

00:08:48.020 they're not here.

00:08:48.660 But before I hear

00:08:49.340 William and Celine

00:08:50.640 it sounds like they're

00:08:51.260 returning to the Airbnb

00:08:52.180 but I think we can play

00:08:53.780 a clip

00:08:54.920 in the meantime.

00:08:58.320 Can you play for me

00:09:00.120 clip number three

00:09:02.320 of an RCMP

00:09:05.900 endorsed plan

00:09:07.000 that would not

00:09:08.000 need the

00:09:08.600 Emergencies Act

00:09:09.740 but this was not

00:09:12.140 sent

00:09:12.660 to the Liberal

00:09:14.480 government

00:09:15.400 because the Liberal

00:09:16.300 government

00:09:16.700 wanted to invoke

00:09:18.100 martial law.

00:09:18.960 Play the clip.

00:09:19.900 Clip number three

00:09:20.800 if you could be so kind.

00:09:24.600 But I want you

00:09:25.940 to concentrate

00:09:26.760 on that scenario

00:09:28.080 then.

00:09:28.460 Cabinet

00:09:31.000 is on the verge

00:09:32.120 of invoking

00:09:33.060 the Emergencies Act.

00:09:35.340 You are their

00:09:36.160 window on law

00:09:37.060 enforcement.

00:09:37.820 You told us this

00:09:38.480 earlier.

00:09:39.660 Your update

00:09:40.460 to Cabinet

00:09:41.060 as it is deciding

00:09:42.380 whether to invoke

00:09:43.340 the Emergencies Act

00:09:44.560 is that the police

00:09:46.040 now have a plan

00:09:47.080 they've pulled it

00:09:48.760 together

00:09:49.120 and that you

00:09:50.720 as the

00:09:52.080 Commissioner

00:09:52.740 of the RCMP

00:09:53.620 consider that

00:09:55.920 plan to be workable

00:09:56.920 without the authorities

00:09:57.880 of the Emergencies Act

00:09:59.160 and that doesn't

00:10:02.460 get delivered.

00:10:03.900 Your messages

00:10:04.500 don't get delivered

00:10:06.020 to Cabinet

00:10:06.600 when they then

00:10:07.240 deliberate on the

00:10:08.020 invocation of the Act.

00:10:09.680 Do you appreciate

00:10:10.280 the significance

00:10:10.880 of that scenario?

00:10:13.820 Yes and no

00:10:14.860 because we had

00:10:16.180 spoken about

00:10:16.880 the fact that

00:10:17.760 we had an

00:10:18.240 integrated planning cell

00:10:19.300 that we were

00:10:19.760 bringing together

00:10:20.640 a plan

00:10:21.260 an enforcement plan

00:10:22.640 to go forward

00:10:23.380 so there was

00:10:24.440 talk about a plan

00:10:26.100 and that a plan

00:10:27.220 was in progress

00:10:28.100 I reported on that

00:10:29.500 I believe

00:10:30.000 in my previous

00:10:31.380 IRG

00:10:32.000 so it wasn't

00:10:33.200 a brand new

00:10:34.080 concept

00:10:34.700 but yes

00:10:36.880 in fact

00:10:37.260 the fact that

00:10:38.000 we now had a plan

00:10:39.280 I'm not sure

00:10:40.620 if it was signed off

00:10:41.700 either

00:10:42.040 as of that point

00:10:44.100 because we were

00:10:44.620 having difficulty

00:10:45.300 getting it signed off

00:10:46.280 we didn't realize

00:10:47.040 it needed to be

00:10:47.740 signed off.

00:10:48.320 Like I say

00:10:51.380 she's not the leader

00:10:52.160 of the RCMP

00:10:52.780 she's not actually

00:10:53.780 the boss

00:10:54.520 my plan had to be

00:10:56.440 signed off

00:10:57.060 signed off

00:10:58.000 who's your boss

00:10:59.940 who would sign off

00:11:00.780 on your plan

00:11:01.220 you speak for the RCMP

00:11:02.500 you're allegedly

00:11:03.220 the chief commissioner

00:11:04.060 you have a plan

00:11:06.380 for Cabinet

00:11:07.240 that shows you

00:11:09.080 can police this matter

00:11:09.960 without invoking

00:11:10.620 the Emergencies Act

00:11:11.540 but you come up

00:11:12.580 with an excuse

00:11:13.100 for not passing it on

00:11:14.400 to Cabinet

00:11:15.300 when they are

00:11:16.080 deliberating

00:11:16.720 whether or not

00:11:17.920 to invoke martial law

00:11:19.220 and your excuse is

00:11:20.760 it didn't have

00:11:21.660 sign off

00:11:22.340 we didn't have

00:11:23.140 it wasn't

00:11:23.720 signed off

00:11:24.760 by whom

00:11:25.520 if the chief commissioner

00:11:27.520 of the RCMP

00:11:28.340 will not

00:11:28.880 cannot sign off

00:11:29.820 on it

00:11:30.100 so who

00:11:30.840 who's managing her

00:11:32.440 who's her handler

00:11:33.640 she certainly seemed

00:11:37.760 out of the loop

00:11:38.320 you would think

00:11:38.720 this would be

00:11:39.060 the number one thing

00:11:39.680 on her mind

00:11:40.480 but she didn't really

00:11:43.960 make too many inquiries

00:11:45.640 she's learned

00:11:46.280 her lesson

00:11:46.840 she's smarter

00:11:47.720 than to ask

00:11:48.700 too many questions

00:11:49.560 when Justin Trudeau

00:11:50.480 wants something

00:11:51.140 what Justin Trudeau

00:11:52.280 wants

00:11:52.560 Justin Trudeau gets

00:11:53.540 look at clip

00:11:54.320 number five

00:11:55.180 do you think

00:11:58.100 that maybe

00:11:58.560 the head of the RCMP

00:11:59.580 would talk to

00:12:00.220 the spy agency

00:12:02.420 CSIS

00:12:03.140 which is all about

00:12:04.680 intelligence

00:12:05.680 do you think

00:12:06.300 that maybe

00:12:06.820 they would talk

00:12:07.480 about what's going on

00:12:08.460 or would that

00:12:09.780 again get in the way

00:12:11.080 of Trudeau's plans

00:12:11.840 look at clip number five

00:12:12.900 right

00:12:14.360 and the minister

00:12:15.040 never asked you

00:12:15.740 what your opinion

00:12:16.360 was with respect

00:12:17.420 to whether or not

00:12:18.180 there was a section

00:12:18.860 two

00:12:19.260 CSIS Act security threat

00:12:20.940 is that correct

00:12:21.520 in respect to

00:12:23.540 whether or not

00:12:24.300 there was a threat

00:12:25.020 under section two

00:12:25.940 as defined

00:12:26.800 in the CSIS Act

00:12:27.880 if there was a threat

00:12:28.740 to the security

00:12:29.380 of Canada

00:12:30.060 no he would have

00:12:30.900 to ask CSIS

00:12:31.660 right

00:12:32.140 and CSIS

00:12:32.940 you're aware

00:12:33.420 told him

00:12:33.880 that there wasn't

00:12:34.580 that's what

00:12:35.940 I've been told

00:12:36.460 so if

00:12:37.140 thank you

00:12:38.260 those are my questions

00:12:38.920 you know

00:12:41.560 she's just not

00:12:42.180 really aware

00:12:42.680 but you know

00:12:43.180 she has other

00:12:43.660 things to do

00:12:44.500 like shutting down

00:12:45.980 investigations

00:12:46.720 into Trudeau's

00:12:48.320 tampering

00:12:49.000 in the SNC

00:12:50.500 Lavalin trial

00:12:51.300 now I hear in the

00:12:52.240 background

00:12:52.600 that our team

00:12:53.440 in the Airbnb

00:12:54.700 studio

00:12:55.300 is getting ready

00:12:56.000 in fact I can see

00:12:56.720 them on a preview

00:12:57.340 screen

00:12:57.780 they're almost ready

00:12:59.540 but we'll play

00:13:00.060 one more clip

00:13:00.640 in the meantime

00:13:01.060 again it's

00:13:02.040 Brendan Miller

00:13:02.900 a lawyer for

00:13:03.580 the Freedom Convoy

00:13:04.380 sponsored by

00:13:05.040 the Justice Center

00:13:05.740 for Constitutional

00:13:06.400 Freedom

00:13:06.600 who presses

00:13:07.680 Brenda Luckey

00:13:08.500 about her past

00:13:10.760 political

00:13:11.540 interference

00:13:13.040 I don't know

00:13:13.560 if you remember

00:13:14.080 this but

00:13:14.600 there was a

00:13:15.320 mass shooting

00:13:16.160 in Nova Scotia

00:13:17.280 and Brenda Luckey

00:13:19.320 called up the

00:13:20.060 local cops

00:13:20.640 and said we need

00:13:21.540 you to make

00:13:22.000 certain public

00:13:23.000 statements

00:13:23.680 that work with

00:13:25.080 Justin Trudeau's

00:13:26.180 campaign platform

00:13:27.460 to ban guns

00:13:28.500 so can you say

00:13:29.740 these things

00:13:30.420 and release

00:13:31.020 certain things

00:13:31.780 it's got nothing

00:13:32.700 to do with

00:13:33.160 policing

00:13:33.580 but we really

00:13:35.480 need a favor

00:13:36.180 from Trudeau

00:13:36.980 and I'm telling

00:13:37.620 you to do

00:13:38.120 this here

00:13:38.500 take a look

00:13:39.240 at clip

00:13:39.680 number four

00:13:40.840 Brenda Luckey

00:13:42.040 oh what's that

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00:16:25.480 in large

00:16:26.340 numbers

00:16:27.080 it's time

00:16:28.460 to drop

00:16:29.000 these masks

00:16:30.040 and let

00:16:30.840 the truth

00:16:31.580 shine

00:16:32.340 I like

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00:16:42.960 Alexa

00:16:43.500 Lavoie's

00:16:44.140 approach

00:16:44.720 to things

00:16:45.720 joining me

00:16:46.800 now via

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00:16:48.460 from our

00:16:49.240 Airbnb

00:16:49.760 studio

00:16:50.320 in Ottawa

00:16:51.080 is

00:16:52.080 Celine

00:16:52.420 Glass

00:16:52.840 and

00:16:53.260 William

00:16:53.540 Diaz

00:16:53.820 Berthium

00:16:54.120 how are you

00:16:54.400 doing

00:16:54.800 we just

00:16:57.020 did a

00:16:57.280 scrub

00:16:57.540 with

00:16:57.820 Brenda

00:16:58.320 Lucky

00:16:58.700 in Ottawa

00:16:59.120 so that

00:16:59.440 was

00:16:59.600 interesting

00:16:59.980 I know

00:17:00.740 I was

00:17:01.040 killing

00:17:01.300 time

00:17:01.680 I was

00:17:01.920 dancing

00:17:02.340 and singing

00:17:02.680 on stage

00:17:03.180 here

00:17:03.340 just to

00:17:03.700 keep

00:17:03.860 people

00:17:04.080 entertained

00:17:04.460 until you

00:17:04.820 came back

00:17:05.200 and I

00:17:05.740 understand

00:17:06.120 that in

00:17:06.620 the

00:17:06.800 Airbnb

00:17:07.260 studio

00:17:07.840 we have

00:17:09.020 Ava

00:17:09.480 Chipiuk

00:17:09.940 one of the

00:17:10.340 lawyers for

00:17:10.780 the truckers

00:17:11.200 is that right

00:17:11.740 that's right

00:17:13.020 absolutely

00:17:13.560 yep

00:17:13.900 she's

00:17:14.420 twirl up

00:17:14.800 currently

00:17:15.200 well Ava

00:17:16.360 I'm sure

00:17:16.740 you're there

00:17:16.960 I don't see

00:17:17.300 you on camera

00:17:17.720 right now

00:17:18.040 but it's a

00:17:18.360 pleasure

00:17:18.500 to have

00:17:18.740 you on

00:17:18.900 the show

00:17:19.160 now

00:17:19.860 I was

00:17:20.840 trying to

00:17:21.140 give people

00:17:21.440 a little

00:17:21.720 bit of

00:17:21.940 background

00:17:22.260 hi

00:17:22.520 how you

00:17:23.060 doing

00:17:23.240 nice to

00:17:23.660 see you

00:17:24.000 hello

00:17:24.240 how are

00:17:24.600 you

00:17:24.740 I'm

00:17:25.140 pretty

00:17:25.340 good

00:17:32.340 I understand

00:17:32.700 that no

00:17:32.960 one else

00:17:33.300 was wearing

00:17:33.620 a mask

00:17:33.960 not the

00:17:34.340 other cop

00:17:35.120 right next

00:17:35.600 to her

00:17:35.820 not the

00:17:36.160 judge

00:17:36.520 not the

00:17:36.880 reporters

00:17:37.340 not anybody

00:17:38.040 not I

00:17:38.760 think she

00:17:39.440 was wearing

00:17:39.840 a mask

00:17:40.180 I'm just

00:17:40.440 going out

00:17:40.740 on a

00:17:41.060 limb here

00:17:42.340 I think

00:17:42.720 she's going

00:17:43.080 on a mask

00:17:43.540 because she

00:17:44.000 wanted to

00:17:44.520 cover her

00:17:45.600 face

00:17:46.080 because she's

00:17:47.000 testifying

00:17:47.800 and one of the

00:17:48.960 ways we

00:17:49.520 assess if

00:17:50.580 someone is

00:17:50.980 telling the

00:17:51.300 truth or

00:17:51.680 lying or

00:17:52.320 if they're

00:17:52.580 under some

00:17:52.920 stress or

00:17:53.420 they're fibbing

00:17:53.940 is nonverbal

00:17:55.740 cues

00:17:56.280 some people

00:17:57.940 have a

00:17:58.280 tell

00:17:58.600 in poker

00:17:59.920 what's your

00:18:00.680 poker tell

00:18:01.240 when you're

00:18:01.600 bluffing

00:18:02.080 it's one of

00:18:03.340 the reasons

00:18:03.760 why judges

00:18:04.580 believe in

00:18:05.580 in-person

00:18:06.240 testimony

00:18:06.800 you have

00:18:07.320 to and

00:18:07.860 we use

00:18:08.220 the phrase

00:18:08.600 look your

00:18:08.960 accuser

00:18:09.700 in the

00:18:10.000 eye

00:18:10.420 so if

00:18:11.280 you're

00:18:11.420 giving

00:18:11.660 testimony

00:18:12.200 that is

00:18:12.660 politically

00:18:13.080 curved

00:18:14.400 and if

00:18:15.760 you're

00:18:15.920 maybe

00:18:16.100 trimming

00:18:16.600 and

00:18:16.840 embroidering

00:18:17.520 the truth

00:18:18.040 as needed

00:18:18.820 you probably

00:18:20.840 want to wear

00:18:21.500 a mask

00:18:21.880 in fact

00:18:22.260 you'd probably

00:18:22.680 wear sunglasses

00:18:23.540 too if you

00:18:24.120 could get

00:18:24.440 away with

00:18:24.880 it

00:18:25.000 that's my

00:18:25.860 theory about

00:18:26.580 why she was

00:18:27.220 wearing a

00:18:27.600 mask today

00:18:28.040 she looks

00:18:28.500 like a

00:18:28.800 blooming fool

00:18:29.480 yeah well I

00:18:33.180 mean it was

00:18:33.520 the first

00:18:33.900 witness that

00:18:34.440 we saw I

00:18:34.980 believe since

00:18:35.420 the beginning

00:18:35.760 of the

00:18:36.000 inquiry that

00:18:36.520 was wearing

00:18:36.860 a mask

00:18:37.320 pretty sure

00:18:38.600 Matthew

00:18:38.920 Fleury was

00:18:39.480 wearing one

00:18:40.060 as he was

00:18:40.560 walking outside

00:18:41.260 you know the

00:18:41.600 best friend of

00:18:42.240 Catherine

00:18:42.660 McKennedy

00:18:43.100 failed

00:18:43.700 Ottawa

00:18:44.500 mayoral

00:18:44.940 candidate

00:18:45.400 who's not

00:18:45.980 the mayor

00:18:46.280 of Ottawa

00:18:46.560 thankfully

00:18:47.020 so both of

00:18:48.260 them were

00:18:48.520 wearing a

00:18:48.840 mask but

00:18:49.160 you're right

00:18:49.920 it's the

00:18:50.200 first time

00:18:50.660 that she

00:18:50.960 was on

00:18:51.480 the stand

00:18:51.900 some people

00:18:53.160 on Twitter

00:18:53.520 were speculating

00:18:54.320 saying that

00:18:54.960 it was

00:18:55.220 because she

00:18:56.200 didn't want

00:18:56.920 people to

00:18:57.440 hear her

00:18:57.900 whisper as

00:18:59.520 Catherine

00:18:59.900 McKinney

00:19:00.300 did I

00:19:00.640 don't think

00:19:00.920 that's a

00:19:01.280 very good

00:19:01.920 theory but

00:19:02.960 yeah no it

00:19:04.040 was surprising

00:19:04.600 to see

00:19:05.360 I think it

00:19:06.100 was also

00:19:06.580 sorry go ahead

00:19:07.800 Ezra

00:19:08.040 no I just

00:19:08.940 think it was

00:19:09.800 also kind of

00:19:10.420 symbolic of

00:19:11.260 just being

00:19:11.980 muzzled

00:19:12.300 silenced

00:19:12.800 because she

00:19:13.360 didn't have

00:19:13.860 a lot to

00:19:14.220 say about

00:19:14.540 anything

00:19:14.900 she really

00:19:16.520 did a lot

00:19:17.440 to actually

00:19:18.080 deflect and

00:19:19.460 to make up

00:19:20.460 every excuse

00:19:21.260 as to not

00:19:21.840 be able to

00:19:22.300 recall very

00:19:23.160 relevant general

00:19:24.060 information

00:19:24.660 that is a

00:19:25.420 part of her

00:19:25.840 job to

00:19:26.280 recall so

00:19:26.920 I think just

00:19:27.920 in the spirit

00:19:28.460 of symbolism

00:19:29.100 that was really

00:19:29.840 just all people

00:19:30.500 needed to see

00:19:31.140 is she would

00:19:31.840 not say

00:19:32.220 anything she

00:19:32.940 silenced

00:19:33.380 herself

00:19:33.800 you know that's

00:19:34.540 very poetic

00:19:35.040 and that's

00:19:35.420 very true I

00:19:36.020 think of a

00:19:36.440 mask in a

00:19:37.260 number of

00:19:37.560 ways to

00:19:37.960 conceal but

00:19:38.700 as a

00:19:39.560 muzzle that's

00:19:40.200 so obviously

00:19:40.740 the case here

00:19:41.480 she's very

00:19:42.580 useful to

00:19:43.220 Justin Trudeau

00:19:44.080 there's nothing

00:19:44.920 he can do

00:19:45.640 that would

00:19:46.080 raise her

00:19:46.800 ire he can

00:19:47.600 tamper with

00:19:48.400 the SNC

00:19:48.960 Lavaline

00:19:49.340 prosecution

00:19:49.840 no problem

00:19:50.640 he can accept

00:19:51.900 a bribe from

00:19:52.800 the Aga

00:19:54.020 Khan

00:19:54.360 that the

00:19:56.120 conflict of

00:19:56.780 ethics commissioner

00:19:57.480 says breaks

00:19:58.060 the law but

00:19:58.520 Brenda Lucky

00:19:59.040 has nothing to

00:19:59.660 say about it

00:20:00.200 so she's

00:20:01.280 muzzled and

00:20:02.700 she's a perfect

00:20:04.580 fit for Trudeau

00:20:05.460 now let's

00:20:06.160 stop the

00:20:06.660 preamble and

00:20:07.200 get straight to

00:20:07.800 the news

00:20:08.160 you guys

00:20:08.820 went to

00:20:10.180 scrum her

00:20:10.900 you followed

00:20:11.800 her to a

00:20:12.640 press event

00:20:13.320 I think we

00:20:14.500 have the

00:20:14.800 footage coming

00:20:15.400 in shortly

00:20:15.980 but tell me

00:20:16.780 what was it

00:20:18.420 like I

00:20:19.000 assume there

00:20:19.680 were a lot

00:20:19.960 of reporters

00:20:20.460 there where

00:20:21.120 was it

00:20:21.800 and did

00:20:22.280 you guys

00:20:22.680 get a

00:20:22.960 question

00:20:23.280 and tell

00:20:23.600 me what

00:20:23.840 you just

00:20:24.160 did

00:20:24.460 yeah so

00:20:26.420 basically

00:20:26.920 as she was

00:20:28.200 coming out

00:20:28.580 Brenda Lucky

00:20:29.080 took about

00:20:29.620 10 to 15

00:20:30.320 minutes just

00:20:31.060 by herself

00:20:31.680 to rely

00:20:32.140 I mean she's

00:20:32.760 been testifying

00:20:33.240 for nine

00:20:33.640 hours

00:20:34.100 it's very

00:20:35.740 understandable

00:20:36.260 so right

00:20:37.160 after she

00:20:37.560 came out

00:20:38.040 after that

00:20:38.760 little short

00:20:39.620 break

00:20:40.040 we were all

00:20:41.040 the journalists

00:20:41.640 behind the

00:20:43.360 line and we

00:20:44.080 asked her a lot

00:20:44.920 of questions

00:20:45.540 there was one

00:20:46.720 full credit

00:20:48.400 one mainstream

00:20:49.400 media reporter

00:20:50.060 she was

00:20:50.420 rangy purple

00:20:51.200 purple shirt

00:20:52.740 she asked

00:20:53.980 most of the

00:20:54.540 questions that I

00:20:55.260 wanted to ask

00:20:55.920 like she was

00:20:56.400 really going

00:20:57.100 off on

00:20:58.260 Brenda Lucky

00:20:58.920 she was asking

00:20:59.640 her don't you

00:21:01.480 think that your

00:21:01.920 testimony will

00:21:02.760 make you look

00:21:03.520 more or less

00:21:04.260 credible to the

00:21:05.440 eyes of the

00:21:05.840 population why

00:21:06.600 were you saying

00:21:07.220 something in an

00:21:08.040 email and then

00:21:09.120 testifying to a

00:21:09.960 different thing in

00:21:11.000 front of the

00:21:11.340 commission she was

00:21:11.920 really going all

00:21:12.620 out on her so

00:21:13.220 she stole a few

00:21:14.260 of my questions

00:21:14.720 but that's totally

00:21:15.240 fine I asked

00:21:17.660 her so

00:21:18.380 one of the

00:21:19.040 first questions

00:21:19.520 that I asked

00:21:20.000 her was as

00:21:21.220 the RCMP

00:21:22.180 commissioner as

00:21:23.160 a commissioner

00:21:23.800 someone that's

00:21:24.320 pretty high level

00:21:25.120 you testified

00:21:26.140 that the

00:21:27.320 emergencies act

00:21:28.120 allowed the

00:21:28.900 police officers

00:21:29.540 to move to

00:21:30.340 Ottawa more

00:21:30.920 safely and in

00:21:32.980 a manner that

00:21:33.680 they could never

00:21:34.400 have done without

00:21:35.240 the emergencies act

00:21:35.920 which I mean

00:21:36.280 that's normal

00:21:36.880 you're granted

00:21:37.860 extraordinary powers

00:21:38.920 you can't do

00:21:39.580 that without

00:21:40.460 the emergencies act

00:21:41.320 but you didn't

00:21:42.420 say that it was

00:21:42.980 necessary so in

00:21:44.900 your professional

00:21:45.400 opinion looking at

00:21:46.400 section 2 of the

00:21:47.000 CCS Act that

00:21:47.620 says that it has

00:21:48.420 to be a threat

00:21:48.920 to national

00:21:49.340 security and that

00:21:50.640 says that it has

00:21:51.520 to be fully

00:21:52.100 necessary do you

00:21:53.700 think that the

00:21:54.360 invocation of the

00:21:55.140 emergency act was

00:21:55.980 necessary because I

00:21:56.760 wanted a yes or no

00:21:58.160 answer since she

00:21:59.400 didn't give any

00:22:00.240 understanding and

00:22:01.200 what did she say

00:22:01.900 she said it was

00:22:03.200 useful she did not

00:22:04.860 say it was necessary

00:22:05.600 she did not give a

00:22:06.300 yes or no answer

00:22:07.220 where have you heard

00:22:07.720 that before

00:22:09.140 it sounds familiar

00:22:10.260 from everyone else

00:22:11.260 from every other

00:22:11.940 witness they always

00:22:13.520 say that it's useful

00:22:14.420 but never necessary

00:22:15.520 and the second of

00:22:16.740 all the three

00:22:17.280 questions that I

00:22:18.000 asked her I

00:22:18.700 failed to remember

00:22:19.400 the third one but

00:22:20.520 I believe that the

00:22:21.300 second one that I

00:22:22.020 asked was yeah as

00:22:24.820 an RCMP

00:22:25.380 commissioner how did

00:22:26.320 she not know that

00:22:27.300 it was necessary to

00:22:28.380 have a court order

00:22:29.300 in order to freeze

00:22:30.700 bank accounts and

00:22:31.920 freeze assets

00:22:32.760 that was shocking to

00:22:33.580 hear yeah and she

00:22:34.400 told me that she

00:22:34.960 knew about the

00:22:35.520 assets that she

00:22:36.160 wasn't too sure

00:22:37.040 about the bank

00:22:38.380 accounts so no I

00:22:39.000 think that we saw

00:22:39.740 that this woman is

00:22:40.460 totally unfit for

00:22:41.340 the job and I

00:22:42.260 truly doubt that

00:22:43.400 she will stay

00:22:44.000 commissioner for a

00:22:44.920 long time

00:22:45.520 you know I think

00:22:47.140 the reason that

00:22:48.480 she is in the job

00:22:49.880 is precisely because

00:22:51.760 she never holds

00:22:53.460 Justin Trudeau or

00:22:54.320 the Liberal

00:22:54.600 government to

00:22:55.100 account she

00:22:56.420 forgets things

00:22:57.340 she's not sure

00:22:58.280 of things she's

00:22:59.000 not consulted in

00:22:59.940 things she doesn't

00:23:00.580 write them down

00:23:01.180 she doesn't remember

00:23:02.020 them she writes a

00:23:03.200 report on behalf of

00:23:04.180 the RCMP but no

00:23:05.520 one signed off on

00:23:06.640 it so she didn't

00:23:07.260 give it to cabinet

00:23:07.780 I don't know who

00:23:08.360 would sign off on

00:23:09.100 it if it not for

00:23:10.440 the chief commissioner

00:23:11.100 so in many ways

00:23:12.460 she's the perfect

00:23:14.760 RCMP commissioner

00:23:15.720 for Trudeau there

00:23:16.400 is nothing he can

00:23:17.260 do that will make

00:23:17.840 her stop to make

00:23:19.840 her stop him

00:23:20.400 there is nothing

00:23:21.680 he can do that's

00:23:23.040 too much for her

00:23:23.820 and I think it's

00:23:25.000 deeply embarrassing

00:23:26.340 to the country but

00:23:27.280 it's delightful for

00:23:28.440 Trudeau

00:23:28.840 of course well we've

00:23:31.100 been seeing that all

00:23:32.060 day in her testimony

00:23:32.880 I mean she couldn't

00:23:34.040 recall anything that

00:23:35.580 happened she couldn't

00:23:36.280 recall any meeting

00:23:37.100 I did not know I

00:23:38.680 did not see anything

00:23:39.600 I did not hear

00:23:40.400 anything she couldn't

00:23:41.300 remember anything

00:23:41.900 until the lawyer for

00:23:43.440 the government of

00:23:43.980 Canada arrived and

00:23:45.080 asked her question

00:23:46.040 that I guess she was

00:23:46.740 prepared for but I

00:23:48.140 found it surprising

00:23:48.900 when she was asked

00:23:50.180 more difficult

00:23:51.200 question and she

00:23:52.520 said I don't

00:23:53.220 remember this is

00:23:54.040 probably one of the

00:23:54.740 biggest instance of

00:23:57.060 police force of the

00:23:58.560 police using

00:23:59.200 extraordinary force in

00:24:00.800 the past decade and

00:24:02.120 probably in one of

00:24:03.740 the biggest in the

00:24:04.340 history of our

00:24:04.800 country and she

00:24:05.960 did not remember

00:24:06.840 what happened in

00:24:08.460 the meetings that

00:24:09.420 she had I mean I

00:24:09.980 don't know what

00:24:10.300 you think but I

00:24:10.860 think that's just

00:24:11.400 ridiculous well do

00:24:12.460 you recall that the

00:24:13.120 longest period of time

00:24:13.980 that we did watch her

00:24:14.780 speak for was in

00:24:15.580 regards to how she

00:24:16.540 believes that Canada

00:24:17.980 is inherently a

00:24:18.740 systemic racist

00:24:19.500 country and how the

00:24:20.780 RCMP is doing all

00:24:22.340 of these things and

00:24:23.240 putting all these

00:24:23.820 improvisions into

00:24:24.620 place to prevent

00:24:26.040 systemic racism in

00:24:27.240 country when this

00:24:28.260 country when I

00:24:29.260 believe this is one of

00:24:30.040 the most vastly

00:24:31.120 diverse melting

00:24:32.200 pots that we that

00:24:33.440 we could see like

00:24:34.280 from anywhere else in

00:24:35.380 the world in

00:24:35.820 comparison to Canada

00:24:36.960 so that was the

00:24:38.640 only time that she

00:24:39.300 actually went off

00:24:40.260 that was the longest

00:24:40.400 point she spoke on

00:24:41.860 this is a trucker

00:24:42.600 commission inquiry into

00:24:43.840 Trudeau's invocation

00:24:44.960 of martial law she

00:24:46.100 doesn't remember

00:24:46.680 anything about

00:24:47.280 Trudeau's invocation

00:24:48.100 of martial law she

00:24:49.160 doesn't know anything

00:24:50.420 that the RCMP did or

00:24:51.600 the cabinet did or

00:24:52.360 CSIS did but boy

00:24:53.580 she's got a lot to

00:24:54.300 say about Canada being

00:24:55.200 racist how did that

00:24:57.200 come up today it was

00:24:59.500 it was the so there's

00:25:01.300 a council I'm not

00:25:02.120 exactly sure what's

00:25:03.100 the name of the

00:25:03.600 of the council for

00:25:05.060 the for the the

00:25:06.620 Native American

00:25:07.260 territories and chief

00:25:08.720 associations of

00:25:09.500 British Columbia

00:25:10.080 that's like the

00:25:11.260 proximity the premise

00:25:12.280 of her title and she

00:25:13.600 asked her if she's

00:25:14.300 aware of some of the

00:25:14.980 systemic racism in

00:25:16.500 this country and how

00:25:17.240 that may or may not

00:25:18.080 affect the way that

00:25:18.920 RCMP handle certain

00:25:20.240 arrests detainments

00:25:21.500 etc yeah it wasn't

00:25:23.900 related we also had

00:25:25.100 that dialogue between

00:25:26.040 us we were sitting

00:25:26.660 beside each other

00:25:27.340 while this was

00:25:27.800 occurring but that

00:25:28.780 was out of anything

00:25:30.180 a totally unrelated

00:25:31.400 topic and it shows

00:25:32.420 you how much she

00:25:33.600 didn't care she very

00:25:34.520 much could speak on

00:25:35.700 that yeah let's take

00:25:36.760 a look we got the

00:25:37.420 clip right here

00:25:38.040 actually let's roll

00:25:38.980 that clip and are

00:25:41.460 you aware of dynamics

00:25:43.460 of systemic racism

00:25:44.600 and specifically

00:25:45.460 anti-indigenous

00:25:46.820 discrimination in

00:25:47.880 policing and

00:25:48.960 responding to public

00:25:50.020 order or emergency

00:25:51.020 events as a result

00:25:55.120 of the upper wash in

00:25:56.180 regards to the upper

00:25:57.000 wash report no just

00:25:59.580 just broadly within the

00:26:00.960 RCMP are you aware of

00:26:02.580 dynamics of systemic

00:26:03.560 racism and policing of

00:26:05.300 indigenous peoples we are

00:26:06.900 doing a lot of

00:26:08.120 initiatives within the

00:26:09.140 RCMP in regards to

00:26:10.640 systemic racism we've

00:26:12.640 introduced some new

00:26:13.880 courses that we've

00:26:14.700 actually made available to

00:26:15.720 all police agencies

00:26:16.800 uniting against racism

00:26:19.420 cultural awareness and

00:26:21.460 humility courses providing

00:26:23.820 we're updating our

00:26:25.400 curriculums at our

00:26:26.680 training academy we've

00:26:28.240 also have the blanket

00:26:29.720 exercise that is is at

00:26:32.860 our training academy and

00:26:33.900 that is available for all

00:26:35.480 employees of the RCMP and

00:26:37.340 it's all about and we've

00:26:38.860 reviewed our whole

00:26:39.600 recruiting process to make

00:26:40.920 sure there's no systemic

00:26:42.520 barriers to prevent

00:26:44.780 indigenous people but also

00:26:47.040 the BIPOC community and

00:26:48.280 into entering into the

00:26:49.540 RCMP in our recruiting

00:26:51.480 we're trying to be more

00:26:52.640 progressive in our

00:26:54.360 proactive recruiters so

00:26:55.840 that we would be able to

00:26:57.080 have more indigenous

00:26:59.680 people in the RCMP because

00:27:01.300 it's more representative of

00:27:02.960 the communities we serve and

00:27:04.620 I think it would make our

00:27:05.860 would strengthen our

00:27:06.820 organization

00:27:07.200 I'm literally losing IQ

00:27:08.700 points as I as I listen to

00:27:10.140 this answer completely off

00:27:11.760 topic absolutely nothing to

00:27:13.140 do with the commission of

00:27:14.060 inquiry but a blessed

00:27:15.840 relief for her she doesn't

00:27:16.880 have to answer an

00:27:17.460 accountability question I was

00:27:18.260 I was getting dumber

00:27:19.400 listening to that answer I

00:27:21.760 want to bring in Ava

00:27:22.300 Chipiak Ava as a lawyer for

00:27:24.860 the truckers with the

00:27:25.720 Justice Center for

00:27:26.360 Constitutional Freedom so I

00:27:27.300 understand William just

00:27:28.700 said Ava that Brenda

00:27:30.680 Luckey testified for nine

00:27:32.960 hours today it is a very

00:27:35.200 difficult thing to say nine

00:27:37.100 hours worth of nothing that

00:27:39.400 is a skill she should be a

00:27:42.480 podcaster was there anything

00:27:45.760 that Brenda Luckey said that

00:27:48.400 had substance to it that had

00:27:51.660 meaning to it other than just

00:27:53.900 her vague can't remember

00:27:55.180 something that happened just a

00:27:56.360 few months ago the most

00:27:57.160 important policing civil

00:27:59.380 liberties moment of our era she

00:28:02.780 can't remember it because you

00:28:04.060 know it's a lot of other

00:28:05.160 things going on was there

00:28:07.500 anything out of those nine

00:28:08.360 hours that was meaningful or

00:28:10.100 useful Ava yeah there

00:28:12.380 definitely were a few things

00:28:13.920 that are worth noting so one

00:28:16.480 of them was with commission

00:28:17.640 council she was having a

00:28:18.960 discussion about how

00:28:20.300 incredibly important it is to

00:28:22.020 use all the tools in the

00:28:23.160 toolbox and especially

00:28:24.420 de-escalation and as we I think

00:28:28.200 all know there was zero

00:28:29.900 discussion with protesters and

00:28:32.160 she kind of nonchalantly threw

00:28:34.380 that out well yeah we could

00:28:35.700 have talked to the protesters

00:28:36.840 and so that was just a very

00:28:39.500 strange conversation she was

00:28:42.740 having with the commissioner

00:28:44.240 lawyers so she was talking all

00:28:45.940 about the tools all about you

00:28:48.620 know on paper the things you

00:28:50.740 could do as the RCMP agency and I

00:28:54.500 suspect there's a protocol and

00:28:56.220 things like that but it looks like

00:28:57.700 as we know none of that was

00:29:00.060 implemented so that was pretty

00:29:02.100 interesting to see and how

00:29:04.320 I think we've got a video clip

00:29:05.140 of that Ava I don't mean to

00:29:06.180 interrupt you other than I think

00:29:07.080 we've got that as clip number

00:29:08.280 two let's just show people where

00:29:10.760 she sort of obliquely

00:29:12.360 accidentally admits that yeah

00:29:13.920 they did not do everything they

00:29:15.340 could like how about just talk to

00:29:16.860 the truckers take a look at clip

00:29:18.020 number two

00:29:18.620 these are your notes and

00:29:23.480 presumably what you said to the

00:29:26.140 IRG and cabinet on the relevant

00:29:28.680 occasions that said I am of the

00:29:32.480 view that we have not yet

00:29:33.640 exhausted all available tools that

00:29:35.580 are already available through the

00:29:37.040 existing legislation there are

00:29:39.900 instances where charges could be

00:29:41.500 laid under existing authorities for

00:29:43.180 various criminal code offenses

00:29:44.760 occurring right now in the context of

00:29:46.480 the protest Ontario Provincial

00:29:48.920 Emergencies Act just enacted will

00:29:51.580 also help in providing additional

00:29:53.340 deterrent tools to our existing

00:29:55.420 toolbox and then the bullet below

00:29:58.480 that these existing tools are

00:30:00.780 considered in our existing plans and

00:30:02.940 will be used in due course as

00:30:04.820 necessary had you had these

00:30:08.160 discussions about your views on

00:30:09.920 existing authorities with any of the

00:30:11.540 officials before the circulation of

00:30:13.600 these notes yeah I think we would have

00:30:15.040 been exchanging verbally like Deputy

00:30:18.440 Commissioner Duem said it happened so

00:30:20.440 fast there was deputy minister was

00:30:24.040 working on this we weren't in the

00:30:25.680 working group we were just brought in

00:30:27.640 as subject matter experts on on various

00:30:31.000 authorities that potential

00:30:33.140 authorities but we weren't in the

00:30:35.580 drafting of any of this that wasn't our

00:30:37.580 role so this would have been provided

00:30:42.880 probably verbally we would have spoken

00:30:46.040 about it and then obviously because I was

00:30:47.880 asked in an email it was provided in

00:30:49.920 writing

00:30:50.220 you know what that's I feel like the fog

00:30:55.880 the bureaucratic fog emanating there

00:30:57.840 hey but you know I see a note from our

00:31:00.680 studio there here we now have the footage

00:31:03.840 of the scrum with Brenda Lackey and I

00:31:06.840 would I don't know if you that were

00:31:07.800 you there Brenda sorry were they even

00:31:09.240 watching the scrum or I missed it so

00:31:11.940 I'd be happy to watch it I wasn't there

00:31:14.140 either that's the reason why Celine and

00:31:16.240 William were away from the mic when we

00:31:18.080 started the broadcast let's see our team

00:31:20.140 in action go ahead studio and roll the

00:31:23.000 scrum so that the emergency act was the

00:31:26.900 safest option that she couldn't have

00:31:28.760 done what she did without it but you

00:31:30.600 didn't say it was necessary though is

00:31:32.140 there a reason why you didn't say what's

00:31:33.260 necessary it's not up to me to decide

00:31:34.960 if it's necessary or if it meets the

00:31:36.660 threshold it's about will it be useful to

00:31:38.960 law enforcement is there any gaps or any

00:31:41.760 problems if we were trying to enforce

00:31:43.840 it that's what the parliamentarians would

00:31:46.800 look at if they're if it's another agency

00:31:48.840 that's going to do something with the

00:31:51.160 regulation they should be asking that

00:31:53.320 that that agency but if you look at the

00:31:56.060 EA if you look at section to the CCSAC

00:31:58.160 it needs to be necessary needs to be a

00:31:59.820 threat to national security so as the

00:32:02.260 head as a commissioner of the RCMP did

00:32:05.000 you consider that it was necessary I

00:32:07.560 thought it was useful I thought it was

00:32:09.320 needed now obviously I have the benefit of

00:32:12.520 hindsight we wouldn't have been able to

00:32:15.260 do the enforcement actions as safe as we

00:32:17.260 did we wouldn't have been able to keep

00:32:18.920 the people in on in at that protest as

00:32:21.680 safe as they were and it wouldn't have

00:32:23.420 been concluded in the short time frame

00:32:25.080 it was if it wasn't for the emergency

00:32:27.260 but just to confirm that you're safe

00:32:29.920 without the emergency act it was very

00:32:34.480 difficult to do the enforcement of what we

00:32:39.920 let me hop back in I paid close attention

00:32:55.580 William to her answer and she said you

00:32:58.960 use the word necessary let me hop in there

00:33:00.980 for a second William you said was it

00:33:03.360 necessary and she said it was needed it

00:33:09.200 was needed that's a synonym for necessary

00:33:12.860 and now her explanations were BS she was

00:33:16.200 saying it made it safer for the

00:33:18.720 protesters really the riot police

00:33:20.820 charging on them that was safer what does

00:33:23.640 that mean safer it was safer for the

00:33:25.540 protesters to have martial law what lack

00:33:28.080 of safety was there that became safer she's

00:33:30.780 a wicked liar we know that about her but I

00:33:33.560 would say that she by saying it was

00:33:36.120 needed she went further than any other

00:33:38.120 cop we've heard from so far the

00:33:39.840 commission all of them said sure it was

00:33:41.680 useful yeah I mean if you give me a

00:33:43.680 blowtorch it'd be useful you gave me

00:33:45.580 ultimate tyrannical power as a czar it

00:33:48.520 would be useful too was it necessary no

00:33:50.480 every cop so far has said it was not

00:33:53.260 necessary in fact most of the cops sort

00:33:55.440 of said why are you even asking that we

00:33:57.140 cleared the Windsor Bridge before the

00:33:59.020 emergencies act we cleared the coots

00:34:00.680 blockade before the emergencies act how

00:34:02.660 can you even ask if it was necessary

00:34:04.100 when we resolve those problems even

00:34:05.680 before the emergency act come in Brenda

00:34:07.600 lucky has gone further than any other

00:34:09.340 cop that I have seen reported you guys

00:34:10.980 correct me if I'm wrong because you're

00:34:12.020 watching every day she knows who her

00:34:14.800 loyalty is other cops swear their loyalty

00:34:17.500 to the crowns well their loyalty to the

00:34:20.340 Constitution Brenda lucky swears her

00:34:22.660 loyalty only to a man Justin Trudeau she

00:34:25.860 does literally whatever he says and

00:34:27.740 never contradicts him and so when asked

00:34:30.240 by William Diaz Barthioma rebel news

00:34:32.240 was it necessary under the ceases act

00:34:35.120 she says it was needed she's a wicked

00:34:37.340 liar who serves one man yeah well I think

00:34:41.020 another difference the other cops do that

00:34:42.560 the other cops when they said that it was

00:34:44.320 it was helpful but not necessary they were

00:34:46.460 under oath and she was talking to me

00:34:49.220 outside of the commission so she wasn't

00:34:51.400 she wasn't under oath anymore and just by

00:34:54.260 the way there's a third question that I

00:34:55.540 asked I think that our clip was was cut a

00:34:57.540 little bit weird because we saw the

00:34:59.040 French question but there's also another

00:35:00.580 question afterwards that I did ask her at

00:35:02.720 the end but anyway yes well let's go to

00:35:04.180 that one and I didn't mean to interrupt

00:35:05.920 other than it was in French and I just

00:35:07.960 wanted to say something quickly about the

00:35:10.000 use of the word needed let's go and watch

00:35:11.680 your second question and then if I can ask

00:35:13.240 our friends if they can find the reporter

00:35:15.640 in purple that William mentioned who asked

00:35:17.800 good questions well I would be delighted to

00:35:19.860 see those but let's ask let's see William's

00:35:21.460 second question let's take a look

00:35:24.500 yeah but on February 13th your advice to the

00:35:30.740 government was that the proper decision and

00:35:34.440 just to put a finer point on it you are aware

00:35:36.980 that there were certain people designated

00:35:48.260 under this group in this case there was

00:35:51.620 six you weren't aware that you needed a

00:35:55.340 court order to do that rewind just a

00:35:57.860 little bit looks like we got a question

00:35:59.160 there go back 20 seconds six or seven

00:36:02.080 leaders so it made it a bit more

00:36:04.140 problematic thank you you said during your

00:36:07.380 testimony as you didn't know if you

00:36:08.580 needed a court order to seize the bank

00:36:10.680 accounts as freeze assets is there a

00:36:13.920 reason why you weren't aware that you

00:36:15.640 needed a court order to do that no the

00:36:17.340 seizing I knew that you needed a court

00:36:19.140 order I wasn't sure on the freezing

00:36:20.700 because we've never done the freezing

00:36:22.580 of accounts we obviously when we seize

00:36:24.420 accounts that's a different aspect but

00:36:26.200 the freezing was pretty new to me and I

00:36:28.160 haven't looked at it any further

00:36:32.280 can you imagine the head of the RCMP

00:36:34.820 thinking that you could just freeze

00:36:37.160 someone's bank account without a court

00:36:38.720 order in without the emergencies act how

00:36:42.220 do you not know that does she does she did

00:36:46.200 she think you could just poof you're

00:36:48.600 frozen like a magic wand what I just

00:36:53.040 incredible incredibly embarrassing to the

00:36:56.000 country that that is the chief

00:36:58.760 commissioner of the RCMP I'm sort of

00:37:00.360 stunned by it but I guess you can never

00:37:02.500 be surprised yeah well it really showed I

00:37:05.820 mean during her testimony she was joking

00:37:07.620 about losing her job she was joking about

00:37:09.840 about having welcoming a new replacement

00:37:12.600 replacement soon but yeah the the purple

00:37:17.120 lady is between those but I'm not sure we

00:37:19.040 that we cut it but no it was it was an

00:37:21.520 interesting testimony and her responses to

00:37:23.100 my questions were interesting I think we

00:37:24.540 have Eva I could probably talk a little bit

00:37:26.300 more as to whether or not it was actually

00:37:28.580 her role or not to know that you're supposed

00:37:31.140 to have a court order in order to freeze

00:37:32.880 freeze assets or freeze bank accounts well

00:37:35.580 just before we get into that I'd like to

00:37:37.520 actually just mention it's it's part also of

00:37:39.960 the questions that we're not going to see that

00:37:41.440 were asked by the lady in purple but she did

00:37:43.640 get a chance to ask Commissioner Lucky what

00:37:45.760 she thought about her reputation after the

00:37:47.880 way that she displayed herself today oh wow and

00:37:50.240 she no joke she was so eloquent probably one of the

00:37:55.200 most eloquent moments today she stood there in

00:37:57.760 front of everyone at that scrum and she said

00:37:59.620 that she's not going to be replaced and that

00:38:01.720 she'll retain her position as Commissioner so I

00:38:04.140 think that just shows you how deep Trudeau has

00:38:06.860 his hooks in her it's perfect it really is it

00:38:10.180 that's why she was joking that's why when you

00:38:11.700 brought that up I was like it makes sense of

00:38:13.500 course she's gonna joke on the stand because she

00:38:15.140 knows that her position is solidified because

00:38:17.640 she sat up there and she lied through her teeth it

00:38:21.460 was ridiculous it was crazy you know I look in

00:38:24.940 the United States Janet Reno one of the worst

00:38:28.120 attorneys general in history responsible for the

00:38:30.140 massacre at Waco you would think that you massacre

00:38:33.880 men women and children you just might be replaced as

00:38:38.280 attorney general no no no no no because now you're you

00:38:42.960 would literally do anything for the president if he

00:38:45.280 keeps you on and so Janet Reno blocked and

00:38:48.140 protected Bill Clinton no matter what he did because

00:38:52.160 Janet Reno did something worse she killed

00:38:54.680 children that's that's not an exaggeration that's

00:38:58.480 not hyperbole that is what she did and Eric Holder had

00:39:02.580 the same role for Barack Obama when you have an

00:39:05.200 absolute obedient submissive like I'm talking BDSM

00:39:11.020 submissive do literally anything of course she's in fact the

00:39:17.960 worse she was the safer she would be her very weakness and

00:39:25.100 impotence and ignorance and folly and muffled

00:39:28.080 masked mouth mumbles is why she is the perfect Trudeau

00:39:34.060 justice I mean could you find a perfect Trudeau RCMP

00:39:37.780 chief commissioner can you find a better contrast between

00:39:41.540 Jody Wilson-Raybould educated intelligent active

00:39:45.500 principled ethical versus the masked mumbler Brenda

00:39:51.860 Luckey Jody Wilson-Raybould Brenda Luckey couldn't have two more

00:39:55.640 different people one was fired by Trudeau because she dared to say whoa

00:40:00.420 don't meddle with a criminal trial the other Brenda Luckey saying

00:40:03.160 master what can I do to serve you today

00:40:06.640 just unbelievable Ava what do you think am I wrong I don't think she's going to be

00:40:14.180 replaced I think she did exactly what her boss wanted and needed her to do and

00:40:20.780 that is why she will continue what do you think

00:40:23.040 well I have to say ignorance is not a defense for law and

00:40:28.420 it's really a shame to see the top commissioner for all of Canada being ignorant of the law if

00:40:37.840 anybody should be educated about the law it is definitely her hearing that response to

00:40:44.200 William's question about freezing bank accounts not knowing that's not an excuse that's not

00:40:50.060 acceptable it should not be accepted in Canada she didn't even know the name of the emergencies

00:40:56.300 act she thought and she says this jokingly nonchalantly like it has no consequences

00:41:02.880 the I thought it was the emergency measures act this is not somebody that should be ignorant of

00:41:09.560 any of these things she's talking about because the consequences are way too severe and that's what

00:41:15.720 we're going to see in Canada it's just like every clip we've been watching it's very hard to watch

00:41:21.120 I couldn't even watch the rest of the evidence today it was mumbo jumbo half the time so it was

00:41:27.760 really hard to watch so I don't know how and why this is acceptable in Canada

00:41:34.960 unbelievable well I think that as long as people keep re-electing Trudeau and his little buddy

00:41:43.440 Jagmeet Singh you're going to keep getting this and I and I just think that I wonder if people are

00:41:49.320 just tuned out they're numb to it it's all gobbledygook it's all boring just lawyers and

00:41:55.960 police droning on and maybe only people like you and me and rebel news viewers and the truckers who

00:42:02.920 have their knobs turned up to 10 maybe we're the only people care about freedom and everyone else

00:42:07.260 well you know what's the price of gas today and what's the price of my home today and you know I

00:42:13.660 got you're just living day-to-day real-life stuff I think that the very fact that this is a fog machine

00:42:20.160 is why Trudeau's going to skate now I'm sort of optimistic that the judge is going to say there

00:42:26.780 was no evidence justifying the individual like I just don't know how any honest judge faced with the

00:42:33.620 evidence of 23 days that every not a single person of authority and frankly even the the odd

00:42:41.660 flotsam and jetsam that testified to even they didn't say yes we needed martial law I don't I

00:42:48.560 don't even think a single person that said that you paying closer attention to me ever has a single

00:42:53.300 witness in 23 days said actually we need we needed martial law did a single person say that

00:43:01.220 so not that I've heard and I did hear a lot of it was helpful but that's not even the test to

00:43:06.600 justify invoking the emergencies act and that's one thing I wanted to say under cross-examination

00:43:11.880 with Brendan Miller right at the end she was asked so who told you or how did you think that this would

00:43:19.120 have been justified and she said well that's not for the RCMP to decide that's for CSIS to decide

00:43:25.120 whether or not it there's a justified national threat to security of Canada under section two of the act

00:43:31.300 and he said or he asked so was that the case and she kind of said I believe that's what they said

00:43:39.100 that there was no threat so she confirmed the RCMP is not the body that would be the one giving the

00:43:46.020 advice or the evidence for a national security threat she confirmed that it's CSIS's role to do so

00:43:52.520 and there we have it zero justification from the CSIS zero justification because it's not their job

00:44:00.200 from the RCMP so whether or not she thought maybe she might need it or it was helpful really doesn't

00:44:06.440 figure into whether or not it was justified yeah you know this I just think that the judge will have

00:44:13.260 no other alternative but to do the right thing here I think that I think that I don't care who

00:44:19.360 appointed this judge I don't care what his political stripe was when he was a lawyer I think

00:44:23.800 any honest judge who is not crooked would have to say there is no justification under the emergencies

00:44:30.220 act for the invocation of martial law and by the way I think the liberal senate knew that too when they

00:44:34.820 threatened to vote against it when Justin Trudeau was forced to blink wasn't the media that forced

00:44:40.160 him to blink it wasn't law professors wasn't the official opposition it wasn't civil liberties groups it

00:44:46.200 wasn't anything it was liberal senators to say you know what boss we're not going all the way down

00:44:51.200 with you here and I think the judge will come to the same conclusion we still haven't heard from Trudeau

00:44:56.960 himself but I I don't know what he could possibly say as as if he's in the the details of these things and he

00:45:04.060 I don't I I think that this is an excellent commission of inquiry in terms of providing the facts of it

00:45:12.420 I think the judge will do the right thing what I'm less certain of is that Canadians who have put up

00:45:18.320 with the blackface groper who takes hundred thousand dollar free holidays if they would put up with all

00:45:24.460 that why wouldn't they put up with some cops knocking some heads around like why would this be more

00:45:30.580 offensive to them I don't know I'm maybe I'm sounding very black pill right now

00:45:35.060 well you know I'm hoping that this is the straw that broke the camel's back at some point we have

00:45:41.660 to say this is enough this is I've said it many times on social media today this is an embarrassment

00:45:48.960 to our country what happened today the display from the RCMP commissioner when you juxtapose that to

00:45:55.800 alongside the OPP commissioner and the professionalism displayed by the OPP officers the superintendent of

00:46:04.480 intelligence you could really like that's somebody I trust my life with or this country with what

00:46:10.380 what was on display for from commissioner lucky I think all Canadians should be outraged embarrassed

00:46:17.240 and demanding more hey Ava we've got a couple of super chats if I'm reading this right and I just

00:46:23.700 want to read a couple of them Cheryl Dawn V chips in five smackers and says Ezra please tell us your

00:46:30.400 opinion if this inquiry finds that there was no reason to enact the emergency act what are the actual

00:46:34.460 ramifications will anybody be responsible like our PM well I can tell you that nothing will

00:46:40.480 happen just like when he was convicted under the conflict of interest act I think a few journalists

00:46:44.460 will tut tut like the global mail will say oh well a lesson learned and Trudeau will say well this was

00:46:50.120 a learning moment for all of us and we all have to do better and by that I mean you and and I think

00:46:56.700 that some of the media that the regime media like global news and the CBC will you know blamestorm a

00:47:04.880 little bit for put the blame on the truckers and nothing will change now do you think Jagmeet Singh is

00:47:10.320 going to pull away support from Justin Trudeau no chance Orisia gave a restream paid chat and said

00:47:18.900 I can't help thinking it's a great opportunity of out with the old old ways in time for a new vision

00:47:23.500 of Canada landmass well out with the old in with the new depends what the new vision is I um

00:47:31.460 I think that there are some eternal values you don't have to always come up with a novelty

00:47:36.820 freedom limited government personal responsibility judging people on the content of their character

00:47:42.160 not the color of their skin those are my traditional values and I wonder Orisia if that's the same with

00:47:48.540 you hey Ava thanks for standing by there I want I want to check with our studio team if there are more

00:47:56.540 interesting clips from that scrum William said that he thought the lady in purple who I'm very

00:48:03.580 we got to have a Kijiji ad you were the lady in purple at the scrum on Tuesday night I was William Diaz

00:48:11.600 Berthiom an 18 year old reporter for rebel news you ask great questions I was amazed you took the

00:48:17.980 words right out of my house we might we must meet again I see like a personal ad or something who is

00:48:24.080 this mystery woman in purple can we can we find a clip of that well I think I think we might be able

00:48:31.580 to find at some point there's one thing that I want to make sure we touch on before we end this

00:48:35.540 live stream because that's pretty relevant about what happens I'm not sure if you saw it but Brandon

00:48:39.860 Miller during his cross-examination almost him he like like he ran out of time so I know everyone

00:48:44.900 received a bunch of documents by the government of Canada by the Department of Justice an enormous

00:48:50.720 amount of document and I think it was pretty hard for all the parties to go through all the documents

00:48:55.340 and we saw you know Brandon Miller who was interrupted multiple times by the government of

00:48:59.260 Canada Council and as I said almost him he ran out of time so can you walk us through what went on

00:49:05.720 during Brendan Miller's cross-examination why it seemed to be a little bit different than other

00:49:10.160 times so last night Brendan brought a notice to the Commission just saying that the Department of

00:49:18.560 Justice in the last week or so put on the database over a thousand documents and some of the documents are a

00:49:26.840 thousand pages than a document so we're talking about tens of thousands of pages of documents so he made that

00:49:34.640 known to the Commissioner because I don't think he actually knows that the Commission lawyers are

00:49:39.440 doing a really good job of keeping all of the procedural stuff away from the Commissioner until

00:49:44.960 it's something of note and he said that look there's lots of really important documents coming out

00:49:50.900 we haven't had time to look at it and so today when he was under cross or doing his cross-examination

00:49:58.700 he was asking for more time because these are relevant documents relevant to these witnesses that

00:50:05.740 were just dumped on all the parties in the last two three days and even with that he did get a bit

00:50:14.660 of leeway with time but the Commissioner was really keeping a tight timeline on him as well

00:50:20.100 yeah that's fascinating William I'm so glad you raised that you know there's two ways to handle a

00:50:25.820 demand for transparency and disclosure one is to stonewall and say we're giving you nothing

00:50:31.660 that's usually what the government does we've had some access to information requests that they've

00:50:36.720 delayed for seven years the other approach is oh you want a needle in a haystack here's 100,000

00:50:43.780 pages you've got 48 hours good luck finding it haha suckers sucks to be you both are atrocious

00:50:51.880 both are tactics of the liberals dumping 100,000 pages to obscure the damning documents and doing

00:50:59.720 it now they knew this Commission of Inquiry was coming since February it's embedded in the Emergencies

00:51:04.920 Act they knew what they just discovered these files three days ago they're wicked liars and if the

00:51:13.240 documents you referred to William come from the RCMP it shows the corruption in that organization which I said

00:51:17.880 is now par for the course Brenda lucky is a disgrace I don't know if we can go to it hey Olivia and Efron can

00:51:25.720 you go to the story from black locks how the RCMP's trust is being frittered away under Brenda lucky the RCMP such a

00:51:35.640 symbol of Canada beloved symbol there even was a hit TV show I think it was called due north it was about a

00:51:43.880 uh who was uh who was out of place and out of sorts and it's just such a beloved symbol of Canada the trusty

00:51:50.520 Dudley do right Mountie look at this story in black locks reporter one of the few independent media left in this

00:51:58.040 country approval rating falls to 51 percent the RCMP

00:52:05.000 RCMP only has half of its reputation left when you put a crooked and I'm using the word crooked

00:52:14.120 on purpose we know for a fact that RCMP officers said we have enough to charge Justin Trudeau

00:52:21.560 for undue influence from the Aga Khan and Brenda lucky said no we're just not going to there you have

00:52:31.320 it she's frittering away the respect of this key institution hey I hear in my ear that we have the

00:52:39.160 clip of the lady in purple the mystery woman okay let's take a let's take a look at that

00:52:46.520 you concluded that it was useful and needed after the fact but on February 13th your advice to the

00:52:52.600 government was that you had the existing authorities to proceed to end the blockades um there was uh the

00:53:02.680 draft of the we knew what some of the authorities were going to be um of course uh we were asked if

00:53:10.520 those were such authorities would they be useful uh to law enforcement um I said that they would be useful

00:53:17.800 um but I also cautioned that there are other authorities because if I don't give the full picture

00:53:23.160 then they can't make a proper decision and just to put a finer point on it

00:53:30.280 and people in the public who question your ability as a commissioner can you just clarify today how

00:53:35.240 you view your conduct your your um leadership a reference this is her and whether you are staying on

00:53:42.600 I'm absolutely staying on as commissioner of the RCMP and and how would you describe your

00:53:46.920 leadership of the RCMP all right yeah well that's that was part of that was part of her question

00:53:51.800 but we also had another longer part before it's going to come out in the video in the next few days

00:53:56.200 we're going to see exactly what she had to say but that's one of the question you know your credibility

00:54:00.840 has taken a hit by testifying here at the inquiry would you stay on as commissioner in the future

00:54:06.200 and she said absolutely I would stay on as commissioner you know what she would stay on that's a decision

00:54:12.680 about her will but when she says she will stay on that's a bit presumptuous it either says that she

00:54:17.960 is the decider or that she already has an understanding with justin trudeau if she protects him he'll

00:54:24.760 protect her that's my analogy with janet reno the butcher of waco and eric holder there was no errand

00:54:31.640 too dirty for eric holder to do for barack obama conservatives don't act that way conservatives have

00:54:36.760 some sort of a deep respect for attorneys general and justice ministers they treat the rule of law

00:54:42.680 like a sacred thing whereas those on the radical left take it see it as merely a tool to be used

00:54:49.800 and brenda lucky is a disgrace to the uniform that's not my opinion alone as i showed you in

00:54:55.160 that black lock story under her watch canadians have turned against the rcmp what a shame more than a

00:55:03.400 century to build up that reputation and it's frittered away um well let's see my clock says

00:55:12.520 it's 7 56 do you guys normally run an hour or do you go a little longer what's your style for these

00:55:17.800 live streams well it's it's usually about an hour depends how much our guests uh have to say i know

00:55:23.320 as eva always has some insightful things to say same thing for keith wilson and uh pretend lawyer tom

00:55:29.320 morazzo who's a freedom convoy intern who said that he was a lawyer the last time he came on but

00:55:34.040 yeah it depends depends what happened throughout the day but i think eva one of the most important

00:55:38.680 thing that i wanted to touch on was what happened with brendan miller with the cross-examination and

00:55:43.000 everything um and i think eva explained it very well no eva if there's anything else that came out of

00:55:48.520 the testimony i should like to touch on uh thanks for putting me on the spot i did have three things

00:55:54.920 and i know we went through two um well one thing we could just let the audience know is that one thing

00:56:01.720 um again it was just interesting to see how uh our dear friend brenda would throw out certain things

00:56:09.320 and i'm just gonna put it out there an email was shown with a time stamp and she said that's odd

00:56:18.040 normally i go to bed by 10 o'clock that's right so there was an issue with the time zone on the

00:56:25.080 time stamp there but you know we're talking about a national security crisis which they

00:56:30.520 in turn called a national security event uh they just changed the wording and to make it

00:56:38.840 i don't know more palatable but you know if we're talking about this kind of

00:56:44.760 issue in our nation's capital where the emergencies act is being invoked the top

00:56:50.680 rcmp commissioner is still going to bed at 10 o'clock i think we've got some issues yeah i mean she

00:56:57.720 she needs her beauty sleep and and uh i'm sure she gets up early but um if you're in the middle of

00:57:04.360 the worst policing danger like the csis test that we're talking about we're talking about this what

00:57:10.520 do we mean by the csis is the spy agency but it's in the act that the standard for emergency is outlined

00:57:16.280 if it is a danger to canadians or a danger to the sovereignty of the country that cannot be dealt with

00:57:23.800 with with another law only and if and only if that then you can bring in martial law so it is literally

00:57:31.720 the worst crisis canada has faced in 50 years and she's going to bed by 10 because she needs her beauty

00:57:39.080 sleep correct the fact that she was so comfortable saying well i don't know how that makes sense i go to

00:57:46.840 bed by 10 p.m and it was just just strange to hear something like that and that goes to you know her

00:57:55.160 evidence of well i don't remember this or i don't remember that even on the pivotal days february 13th

00:58:02.760 february 14th what was your discussion with this group what was your discussion to the cabinet

00:58:08.920 i don't really remember yeah i had other things going on game of thrones had a new series out i was

00:58:15.080 watching that and you know um yeah i was just finishing up some sudoku and uh you know i just

00:58:22.840 caught up on my go to bed by 10 yeah and i like to go to bed by 10 because i really you know i have

00:58:28.200 such a stressful job could you imagine that well ava it's great to see you again thanks very much and

00:58:34.360 thanks for your excellent advocacy on behalf of the trucker convoy i'm so pleased with how the justice

00:58:38.760 center has done you guys have seven lawyers i think and you really are making the commission

00:58:45.160 your project i'm brendan especially is doing such a great job up there i think he is the mvp

00:58:51.320 he's the player of the game yeah well can i just say one thing he's the one asking questions about

00:58:57.320 the emergencies act it seems like the other players are trying to cover their bum for for what happened

00:59:04.200 to cover their departments and he is the one asking questions about the security threats he is

00:59:09.400 the one asking about the emergencies act but it's my pleasure love to be on the show thanks for having

00:59:14.680 me well it's great to see again and really i think that he is the strongest lawyer the one most dedicated

00:59:20.280 to the mandate of the emergencies act and i think that if he were not there this would be a very

00:59:26.200 different commission i'm so glad that jccf received standing by the way so did the democracy fund

00:59:31.480 um a charity that we're fans of here celine and william you guys are doing a great job i'm glad

00:59:36.680 you got to the scrum and i'm glad you got your questions in and although i am not satisfied with

00:59:41.720 the commissioner's answers she did answer you and it's excellent the rebel news was there and shout

00:59:47.880 out to the lady in purple a mystery woman that maybe one day we'll learn her identity but good for

00:59:53.880 her last words to you guys well i think today was super interesting and there's a few things that

01:00:00.120 i think would still be relevant to touch on but we can definitely talk about it in tomorrow's

01:00:03.240 live stream so if you want to know more about what went on today some details about the evidence that

01:00:07.480 was presented or you can join us tomorrow at the same time we'll we'll also be joined by some lawyers

01:00:12.440 and we'll definitely talk about them i think brenda lucky it shows why people are losing trust in the

01:00:17.720 rcmp i think her testimony shows that she she lost all credibility that people you know people people

01:00:24.840 don't trust our our policing institutions anymore and her testimony is why yeah well yeah no exactly

01:00:31.480 and it's not like we didn't have every intelligence agency in canada saying the exact same thing but

01:00:36.520 they went ahead and they did it anyway so this hot potato now lies in the lapse of the liberal cabinet

01:00:41.960 ministers that will be going and providing their testimonies next week so i don't know who else

01:00:47.480 they're going to put the blame on it it can't be lucky anymore because her hands are clean she served

01:00:52.200 her masters so now we move on to the bigger fish next week but yeah today was terrible totally

01:00:57.480 unbearable can say it yeah well thanks again you guys are doing a great job out there i'm so pleased

01:01:02.840 with our rebel pop-up studio in the heart of ottawa and hopefully i'll have a chance to visit it again

01:01:08.600 before the commission is out um i'd like to thank our live stream staff here in our world headquarters in

01:01:14.520 toronto olivia bruni and efrain oswaldo flores monsanto and i'd like to thank all our viewers at home

01:01:22.040 including our super chatters live chatters and um i want to invite you our dear viewers to meet

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01:01:46.360 weekend in toronto this saturday did you guys know that tamara leach the joan of arc of truckers

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BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 23 ｜ Brenda Lucki testifies ｜ Ft. Eva Chipiuk

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