Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 6 ｜ Ft. Eva Chipiuk

00:00:00.000 hey shia oh oh hey how's it going i was uh sort of taken away by that new like 1.00

00:00:21.520 trucker commission graphic that we had there i i don't know if it was there yesterday because

00:00:26.060 i was busy yesterday with our uh movie premiere but i hadn't seen that before but it's cute good

00:00:30.720 job guys um i'm sheila gunreed i'm sheila gunreed that's my co-host uh william diaz and we are here

00:00:39.240 to bring you the daily live stream recap of the comings and goings of what we call the trucker

00:00:44.140 commission that's the public order emergencies commission wherein an allegedly independent

00:00:50.060 body and so far so good is investigating justin trudeau's invocation of a never before used

00:00:55.840 anti-terrorism law it's a rewrite of the war measures act and he invoked it on peaceful

00:01:02.120 anti-covid mandate anti-discrimination really protesters in the nation's capital who

00:01:09.440 did the horrifying thing of well first of all having the wrong protest

00:01:14.160 they had the wrong opinions and then they uh had hot tubs but eva chipiak the lawyer for the 1.00

00:01:20.820 convoy says i never saw any hot tubs um which is too bad let me just introduce you right here

00:01:26.980 eva is going to be joining us in a few if you minutes i just saw her entering our our little 1.00

00:01:32.640 studio here in ottawa so she'll be able to join us so shortly oh great she's so fun and she has

00:01:38.140 such an interesting take a lawyer's take on it but a common sense lawyer because sometimes lawyers

00:01:43.340 can get kind of nerdy and heady um but she's not she sees right through it which makes her the 0.99

00:01:47.720 perfect convoy lawyer by the way um very interesting day uh the last witness of the day just wrapped up

00:01:55.320 superintendent his first name escapes me abrams um and for the opp and he testified to just the chaos

00:02:05.440 and disarray coming out of the ops and as i said to ezra it's like that spider-man meme where they're

00:02:13.140 all just stand like multiple spider-mans pointing at each other blaming each other that's all i see

00:02:17.940 with uh the levels of government who are just blaming everybody else um and this last superintendent

00:02:26.820 i think eva will be um good to talk to you about this he said that there was a plan hatched very early

00:02:35.260 in february by chief slowly of the ops and he wanted the opp to participate in this of what

00:02:44.540 abrams described as snatch and grabs they were going to target convoy organizers and influencers

00:02:55.340 whatever that means just high level participants people with large social media followings that's a

00:03:00.460 crime now um snatch and grab them arrest them and he said in no way is the opp police liaison team

00:03:08.320 participating in this whatsoever he was going to wait until he got some legal advice on this because

00:03:14.880 he didn't want to open up the opp to any criminal or civil liability and he especially said i don't want

00:03:20.580 my people participating in illegal arrests which is what he thought it would be at the time right

00:03:26.580 yeah and it became legal due to justin trudeau's measures and the measures installed by the police

00:03:32.640 yeah yeah he actually said he was proud of the what he left on the note saying i'm proud of the work the

00:03:39.460 opp did to get everybody into the city safely probably much to the chagrin of the ops but he said you know

00:03:48.480 that there was no criminality getting him into the city they did their best to keep a lane of traffic

00:03:53.200 open getting them into the city yeah and they didn't damage the highway and he said there were

00:04:00.260 some people who were maybe standing a little too close to the highway as big trucks were coming by

00:04:03.720 but that's not on the convoy that's on the people who did that you know like how could you expect the

00:04:07.840 convoy to control that but he said there was no criminality and again that seems to be the thing

00:04:12.000 we continually hear there was no criminality no guns no violence no anything and the mass arrests

00:04:19.560 happened after the invocation of the act yeah 100 the only violence we saw was on black and white

00:04:27.080 pages from mainstream media mainstream media newspaper yeah by the way i see i see eva preparing in the 0.82

00:04:33.240 back so i guess we could throw to a quick ad and we'll be able to welcome her on our set before we 1.00

00:04:37.360 before we go to the ad i should uh do a little housekeeping so for those of you who normally expect a

00:04:43.580 noon or 10 a.m uh out here in alberta live stream we've shuffled our live stream to the end of the

00:04:49.180 day at that news live stream we normally talk about the news of the day sometimes quirky sometimes

00:04:54.120 important in an unscripted way and that's fun it gets you know it's good for us to interact with each

00:05:00.180 other because we work remotely but also with our people but i think there's no more important news

00:05:05.480 in the country right now than what's happening in ottawa at this commission and so we've shifted our

00:05:13.100 live stream to uh 4 p.m alberta time 6 p.m uh eastern time over there in the center of the universe

00:05:20.480 um where we spend an hour digesting sometimes eight sometimes 10 hours of testimony uh we sit there and

00:05:29.100 watch it i i sit here and watch it you should see what my desk looks like like like i need a trucker to

00:05:35.020 come in here and organize my desk the way they organize the streets of ottawa it's a nightmare

00:05:39.580 yeah but i'm gonna need a convoy block captain to come in here and zhuzh everything up i'm sure

00:05:46.100 i'm sure it's better organized than the ottawa police services

00:05:49.240 yes okay but if people want to uh get involved uh have their say might i suggest something uh what we

00:06:01.560 call a paid chat um on rumble it's called a rumble rant on odyssey it's called a hyper chat youtube

00:06:07.720 won't let you leave us a paid chat because they're a censorship platform but there's i don't know

00:06:11.740 there's 1.6 million of you over there so we don't want to stop using youtube we just want to tell you

00:06:17.520 there are other options for you out there and so if you want to leave us a paid chat because unlike

00:06:21.940 the mainstream media who seem to not be reporting the things from this commission that are damaging to

00:06:28.380 them uh we're not in the pocket of justin trudeau we're fiercely independent nobody owns us uh we are

00:06:34.280 only accountable to our viewers and so if you want to leave a paid chat there's those two ways to do it

00:06:39.540 and if it's over five bucks and we have time at the end we'll do our best to address your question

00:06:44.680 query or comment on air but i should let you know we we have a airbnb in ottawa we've got a rotating cast of

00:06:52.300 characters going through their um journalists and video producers and chase producers um and so we're

00:07:00.000 going to be there for the full duration so if you want to support us in another way you can go to

00:07:04.600 trucker commission.com you can see all of our reports william is just as i say in every staff

00:07:09.260 meeting ripping it up in ottawa um you can see all of his work there at trucker commission.com

00:07:14.640 and you can support our work there too so with all that being said let's go to the ad so we can get

00:07:20.380 evil on set thursday in ottawa the public order emergencies commission kicked off it's an inquiry

00:07:29.060 into the actions of the government or at least it's supposed to be the inquiry is allegedly meant

00:07:34.560 to examine whether or not the government was justified in invoking an anti-terrorism law called

00:07:39.880 the emergencies act to euthanize peaceful anti-covid mandate protests taking place in the nation's

00:07:45.600 capital but also in other locations across the country my body my choice now the convoy to ottawa

00:07:54.000 spent nearly four weeks completely peacefully demonstrating against lockdowns and vaccine

00:07:59.400 passports it evolved into a nearly month-long street party replete with bouncy castles hot tubs 0.56

00:08:05.120 street hockey concerts and community outreach efforts like soup kitchens and food for the homeless

00:08:10.940 rebel news as we were for the convoy to ottawa will be there on the ground in ottawa to cover the

00:08:16.900 commission from the beginning to the end because you just cannot trust the mainstream media and in

00:08:22.280 fact that's what today's report is about we've rented an airbnb in ottawa where we're sending a rotating

00:08:29.100 cast of journalists to report on the public order emergency inquiry now you can help support our

00:08:34.600 efforts there at trucker commission.com the mainstream media is reporting about the

00:08:39.920 alleged foreign nature of the convoy funding was cited as a reason the liberals invoked the

00:08:44.760 emergencies act to arrest detain and seize the property bank accounts and assets of anti-trudeau

00:08:51.100 demonstrators we are back we're back and we have eva and hopefully we can talk to eva without any sort

00:08:58.980 of technical difficulties as we did last time but eva is such a good sport uh eva thanks for joining us

00:09:04.560 uh for those of you who don't know eva go ahead i was just saying my pleasure no no go ahead tell me

00:09:11.160 how good tell me how please introduce me i'd love to hear it tell me how great i am eva is the is one

00:09:18.680 of the lawyers working for the trucker convoy specifically tamera leach um and that's why she's 0.96

00:09:25.320 in all my pictures that i have with tamera leach there's eva's smiling mug right in the background so

00:09:30.460 that she makes sure that her client doesn't go back to jail she won't go back to prison uh eva i'm

00:09:37.560 so glad you're on the show because i heard some crazy things at the end there uh just the absolute

00:09:42.540 disarray in the police service um and the opp seemed genuinely concerned that they were being asked to do

00:09:51.940 things by ops that were illegal particularly these like snatch and grabs nicaraguan nicaraguan style

00:10:00.240 abductions of peaceful protesters on the street it was crazy yeah you probably noticed my smile went away

00:10:08.200 like listening to that evidence today you know i was on the ground i saw some of the things happening

00:10:15.280 and it is actually reassuring to see that the opp was looking to make sure that things were done

00:10:23.600 correctly and legally uh we saw some of that footage you know uh well our clients were there on the

00:10:29.880 ground some of them in coventry and just giving us accounts of what was going on and one of our

00:10:34.840 clients got some like a recording about how it is they're even taking stealing fuel we were a little

00:10:43.240 bit confused about that um so yeah it was good to hear the evidence again of the opp department and

00:10:51.580 the officers it's very different to what we hear from the ops yeah that is very true um

00:10:58.220 the superintendent today abrams he testified to the actions of the ops causing a complete and total

00:11:07.300 breakdown breakdown in early february with the protesters they had their police liaison team who

00:11:13.720 were working with the protesters towards a peaceful i mean it was obviously peaceful but a resolution to

00:11:20.040 everything and then the ops just moved in and started arresting everybody um at coventry for bringing fuel

00:11:27.360 in and the plt unit the police liaison unit they wanted to quit they just wanted to go home they said

00:11:33.940 what's the point here the quote was all is lost and i think it's a credit to your clients that it was

00:11:40.240 not lost because it could have been but they continued negotiating even after those arrests

00:11:45.840 that's right uh loss of trust is what i heard today a lot of and 100 percent and you know we had

00:11:55.220 truckers and protesters saying well you know the police keep lying to us they keep telling us one thing

00:12:02.280 and doing something else why would we trust them and like you said they maintained resolve they didn't

00:12:08.500 stoop down to any level of disturbance and criminality which after some time you know so much credit to

00:12:18.060 them for staying above and and be acting the way they were in really freezing conditions too and a shout

00:12:27.200 out to to um ottawa residents because a lot of ottawa residents saw that as well and they came to as they

00:12:33.680 did before but then they really came out in full force when these heard and saw fuel was being taken

00:12:38.760 away and there was a possibility that people would be you know freezing in their in their cars you know

00:12:45.920 that was one of the things they tried to do to them from the very beginning um councillors flurry and

00:12:51.560 mckinney uh testified to their lobbying of the city council to lower the temperature limit wherein

00:13:00.220 they allow people to idle their vehicles in the street because what they wanted to do was

00:13:04.660 disincentivize people from idling their trucks when it was like minus 20 minus 30 they wanted the city to go

00:13:12.880 around ticketing people for not freezing to death uh i thought i thought it was just atrocious and then

00:13:18.840 these are you know simultaneously the same people who say you know like we got to do more for the

00:13:22.780 homeless because they're going to freeze to death so um it's the wrong kind of people freezing to

00:13:27.360 death and then the right kind of people freezing to death they actually don't care about people uh

00:13:32.500 they just want to see themselves as some sort of saviors or enforcers on the other hand yeah well

00:13:38.740 very good point and and we heard that time and time again it was we want businesses or businesses

00:13:44.320 are suffering but not business from the protesters um there was also uh the situation of well if

00:13:51.300 there's a car parked illegally we want to make sure that it's not an ottawa resident that we're towing 0.99

00:13:57.080 away if it's parked illegally you get a ticket and you tow it away regardless of who you are like

00:14:02.340 it seems that you know there's just so much of this conflicting information and uh you know we see it

00:14:10.180 more and more every day surprisingly it was again surprising to hear how little the police actually

00:14:20.940 even like how little they needed the ea i don't think they needed it at all but even they couldn't

00:14:27.380 come up with strong reasons for why they needed it um for example i think it was uh assistant or deputy

00:14:36.080 chief ferguson uh who said um we liked having the threats of seizing assets seizing bank accounts we

00:14:45.440 liked those threats but what was important to us was the ability to compel tow truck drivers

00:14:51.460 and the uh ability to not have to go through the motions of swearing in officers and then she admits

00:15:00.040 we already had tow truck drivers on the way just from outside of ottawa i guess you don't want to

00:15:05.940 damage your reputation within um ottawa and she i think it was uh brennan miller maybe it was no

00:15:14.060 maybe it was rob kittredge from jccf who forced her to admit it would only save maybe a handful of

00:15:20.980 hours to skip going through the motions of having to swear in these outside officers so it was astounding

00:15:27.920 to me to hear a police officer somebody who's in police management testify that you are willing to

00:15:33.560 engage in snatch and grab arrests bank account seizures unconstitutional arrests holding people

00:15:42.420 um ticketing them for having their kids with them just so that you can skip some of the paperwork

00:15:49.080 to swear in new officers i mean that's that was what was the benefit for her i thought it was atrocious

00:15:54.940 yeah i honestly almost have nothing more to add because it's like i said it's shocking really like

00:16:04.000 here we came in thinking that we you know have so much evidence evidence gathering to um to do and

00:16:11.980 the evidence is just pouring out about uh the in the lack of planning and misinformation and um lack of

00:16:23.020 any kind of reasonableness that we actually sought more from protesters so going back to the last time

00:16:31.900 we chatted you know we there was a very short period of time that they there was actually engagement with

00:16:38.800 the protesters and a resolution so a plan as some kind of an agreement just thinking about the

00:16:47.700 background of what was going on there you know maybe having a couple protesters at the table would

00:16:54.280 help resolve a lot of these planning issues a lot earlier yeah it's funny um somebody joked on the

00:17:01.460 internet today because i one of these people expressed sort of horror and dismay that they had the truckers

00:17:08.460 had supply chains and they were able to get food into inside the protest and fuel and firewood inside of

00:17:14.820 the protest and i thought you know you soft-handed city people of course the truckers are good at

00:17:19.300 logistics and then somebody else said maybe they should be running the passport office

00:17:23.000 that's what i was trying to say but you'll put it a much better um you know let's throw to this clip

00:17:32.380 uh olivia of a lot of things late in the day yesterday just blew apart the government's narrative

00:17:39.140 but the media's narrative too about who and what the convoy protesters were and are to this day um

00:17:46.580 and again credit to the opp they seem to be the most reasonable people in all of this the opp and senior

00:17:52.380 bureaucrats within the city of ottawa the non-political types they seem to be as i said the other day the only

00:17:59.560 grown-ups in the room but we've got um the head of intelligence for the opp superintendent pat morris

00:18:07.880 giving his very honest assessment of the convoy and the in the extremism allegations within the convoy

00:18:17.000 if you wouldn't mind olivia we produced no intelligence to indicate that these individuals

00:18:23.980 would be armed and there has been a lot of hyperbole about that um that was something we wish to

00:18:31.860 in the when people think about what happened in january 6th of 2020 that is presence of mind

00:18:40.920 but we produced no intelligence to indicate that that would be the case

00:18:44.760 and i think uh the uh arrests for firearms after the fact played that out as in there were none

00:18:53.720 correct i i so much enjoyed opp superintendent um morris time after time you know questions were being

00:19:03.980 asked it's like some and i think it was mostly the government federal government lawyer almost

00:19:09.920 fishing for you know information and he kind of just straight to the point no credible information

00:19:17.400 no credible information sometimes i saw reports in the media but there was no credible information that

00:19:25.160 that's what we should be looking at here police reports actual facts not fiction you know um and he

00:19:34.260 went on to talk about um the disinformation that the media caught like the the concerns and the

00:19:41.480 problems the disinformation the media caused on um helping them contain and take control of the situation so

00:19:49.640 in fact they were extending the problems and complicating the the police in acting out what they needed to do

00:19:57.800 just terrifying yeah i think we have that clip where uh superintendent morris talks about just how much

00:20:06.100 of his time was wasted by people who were whipped into hysterics by media reports and what uh pat morris

00:20:13.400 calls politicization of the convoy because you know these people in ottawa were told for two weeks that

00:20:20.900 the kkk was coming and so and so when the so-called kkk finally arrived all they did was call the cops and

00:20:28.160 report people for mean signs and he had to go and investigate them all or at least his people had to go and

00:20:33.000 investigate them all and then he's got to deal with the intelligence reports related to that so i think

00:20:37.200 we have um it's a kind of a longer minute and plus uh clip but he lays it all down about how damaging

00:20:45.620 to his ability to work the constant rhetoric from politicians was um and as you say it probably

00:20:54.340 prolonged anything that happened in ottawa there seems to be a um a causal linkage in somebody's in

00:21:04.000 some people's minds between certain things that are not illegal or criminal um they just may not be

00:21:11.240 in line with and a nexus to somehow an intelligence threat i can give you an example i have had instances

00:21:18.100 where people have approached me uh professionally because there were bumper stickers um that had to

00:21:23.920 do with um entities that they disagreed with so therefore those people shouldn't be police officers

00:21:29.540 they shouldn't be parked in policing um uh sorry parking lots and i heard terminology um that person

00:21:38.600 is right wing so and then therefore an assumption i used to hear all that all the time about left wing

00:21:44.200 and i was very concerned about it uh because i worked in anti-terrorism at the time of um the 9 11

00:21:49.860 attacks and i saw what these knee-jerk reactions do where we get information from the public on any

00:21:55.860 number of issues related to what they perceive to be threats from wahhabism or salafism or sunni

00:22:02.060 extremism and there always seems to be an overreach that comes with this politicization and i've had many

00:22:09.000 instances where i've been asked to go through these intelligence checks without the

00:22:14.100 reasonable grounds to suspect or believe that there is a threat posed there is merely the presence

00:22:21.580 of something or someone that someone doesn't like i think this says a lot because you know and it's

00:22:30.040 actually true nowadays i see a lot of people seeing people from the other side of the political aisle

00:22:34.540 you know left-wing people looking at right-wing people and just because they are conservatives they're

00:22:39.180 going to think that they are a threat to them i think it says a lot about you know the the level

00:22:45.200 of violence that was actually behind the convoy well this whole i think the whole reason for the ea

00:22:51.960 and i i think we actually have a clip of a liberal saying this as much in the house of commons today

00:22:57.100 it's that people have criminalized inconvenience and i don't think you have a right to be comfortable

00:23:02.560 in this country and yeah yeah horn honking yeah sure it's annoying but it's not an act of war like

00:23:11.240 it's not a 9-11 level event but that's how they treated horn honking and traffic snarls and people

00:23:18.860 with disagreeable opinions in the nation's capital yeah you know i guess we have a lawyer right here so

00:23:24.760 is a right-wing person inherently violence that's being right-wing that's your that's your violence

00:23:29.860 i guess it depends who you ask nowadays yeah opp superintendent um morris said no but you know

00:23:37.660 that's what the narrative has been and uh thankfully now i think it's being it's coming to light that

00:23:45.180 you know you can't this is not a criminal activity and i um brendan miller did ask him

00:23:50.340 because in his evidence he said something to the effect of i don't like using the word

00:23:55.900 extremist and so brendan went into that and asked him to provide some more context to that

00:24:03.000 and and he said something very similar to what we heard is that now that name that label is being

00:24:10.460 thrown out to somebody that just doesn't agree with you that doesn't mean it's criminal that doesn't

00:24:14.700 mean that it's wrong and actually going back i think it was to diane deeds who was up earlier and

00:24:20.160 as we know and heard there was a lot of politicking there um and she said that political discourse

00:24:27.320 and opposing views not only uh should be encouraged but it's healthy to have so here we are you know

00:24:35.160 uh the city politicking um here we have kind of you know working class politicking against the federal

00:24:43.160 government uh but again that's not the kind of politicking we want uh that's not the kind of

00:24:49.040 protesting or opinions that we that are allowed in the city um so it's just really good to turn the

00:24:54.700 table around because you you see that it just depends on who it is that the that conversation

00:24:59.680 is okay for yeah someone noted to me the other day that there's a serious classist element in all of

00:25:06.300 this where the white collar ottawa bureaucrats who i i describe them as the pajamas and laptop class

00:25:13.940 where they can work from home they work from home till the day they die if they work in the 0.74

00:25:17.120 passport office they're still working from home um they really didn't like these icky blue collar 0.97

00:25:24.780 useful people coming to their city you know like you see how upset they were that they couldn't get

00:25:30.580 their uber eats and they were so offended that people who were concerned about not being able to

00:25:36.100 feed their kids drove their icky trucks into their city and made some noise and they are crying about uber

00:25:43.720 eats and i just thought you know there's such a disconnect between you know the the ivory tower

00:25:50.120 bureaucratic class versus the entire rest of the country and and uh i guess that's why albertans are

00:25:57.880 so alienated probably yeah well and you know the uber eats we people were using uber eats i know

00:26:06.580 so then that that doesn't even fly um i like your description what i've been using is the starbucks

00:26:12.700 versus the tim hortons um group because when uh the protesters were in downtown ottawa all accounts

00:26:20.660 that i've heard from tim hortons is it was their best um revenue in three weeks compared to the last

00:26:26.300 three years so that's that's the class difference too just in terms of coffee if you want to put it that

00:26:32.580 way yeah for sure would you made a money eva i drink gas station coffee i drink anything i'm a lawyer

00:26:39.940 any coffee we we have long days as you can see yeah it's good it is it's keeping me going um we've

00:26:49.080 got actually a clip of uh liberal pam damoff she's insisting that invoking the emergencies act was 0.95

00:26:58.180 the right thing to do because people were hurting everywhere i guess just hurt feelings terrorism law

00:27:05.800 no biggie terrorism got it uh maybe i'd love to ask if she was if she's been watching any of the

00:27:11.220 evidence coming out in this inquiry which is the whole point of it is to justify the the invocation

00:27:17.020 of the emergencies act do you know what william let's find her and ask her please yeah yeah i've

00:27:23.680 been trying you know i i got i got mark home in the chino i got defense minister anita anand

00:27:28.040 i got her favorite minister who i have to censor myself omar al-jabra as well that i was able to see

00:27:35.040 so i have an in-house nickname for him i'm trying my best i'm trying my best to get her

00:27:40.380 uh olivia let's throw to that clip of uh pam saying uh heard feelings terrorism if the prime minister

00:27:47.860 really believed that uh the situation was so bad that his house needed to be protective

00:27:52.720 did he not also feel that it would have been justified to protect all the population of ottawa

00:27:57.280 the honorable parliamentary secretary

00:28:06.320 mr speaker and i thank the honorable member for his question during the illegal occupation last winter

00:28:12.500 people across the country were hurting not just in ottawa but across the entire country and canadians

00:28:18.680 freedoms to feel safe in their homes were threatened and that's why we invoked the emergency act because

00:28:24.240 it was the right thing to do and it worked to end this illegal occupation in ottawa and across the

00:28:30.460 country thank you mr speaker no no if the prime minister you know you know the reason why people

00:28:36.000 couldn't feel safe in their home because of situations like what happened with archer uh archer

00:28:41.460 provlosky in uh in alberta occurred during the convoy because we saw a video of police entering the house

00:28:47.480 of people that were having what quebecers called illegal gathering during the lockdowns during the

00:28:55.200 pandemic that's why people didn't feel safe in their house it wasn't because of the peaceful

00:28:59.220 truckers that were protesting for the freedom of everyone it's such a hypocritical and false statement just

00:29:05.060 overall well not only that is that's not the requirements under the law in the emergencies

00:29:09.860 right like let's start there uh if that's what the government is now saying is the reason they invoke

00:29:15.680 the act well again we could pack up and let's go home like this case closed yeah uh that is not

00:29:21.880 justification for invoking the emergencies act it's actually really disturbing to see members of parliament

00:29:29.540 parliament suggests that yeah i mean i don't think that somebody else's agoraphobia or anxiety disorder

00:29:38.040 is reason to invoke the war measures act on the entire country a war measures act that i don't

00:29:44.560 understand it wasn't been used it wasn't been used by the way on september 11 the the emergency

00:29:49.280 act was sorry i was just gonna say i think we actually have justin trudeau responding

00:29:53.720 to uh some questions in the house of commons today yeah let's show that um he's somebody asked him

00:30:01.340 about uh why he invoked the emergencies act and uh he said it was for the well-being of democracy

00:30:07.480 interesting not the reason to invoke it under the law so yeah i don't i don't think the act

00:30:15.040 serves to to respect democracy that's quite a pretzel too uh we're gonna squash peaceful expression

00:30:22.720 the right to assemble the right to protest your own government we're gonna squash that in the name

00:30:29.360 of democracy i'm like i'm not sure you know what that means let's show this clip

00:30:33.440 we invoke the emergency measures act in a responsible way in a wary way and in a limited

00:30:42.260 a time-limited way in a way that fully respected the fundamental rights and freedoms of canadians we have

00:30:47.960 done this because the situation required it i'm very happy that now there is a public inquiry that's

00:30:54.500 happening that will allow all canadians to see what we saw at the time this was an illegal occupation

00:31:01.960 it was a real problem not only for the residents of ottawa and throughout the country but also for our

00:31:07.160 economy and for the well-being of our democracy we did what we had to do in a responsible way

00:31:13.140 at least i always see people complaining when we show clips of justin true because they said they

00:31:19.740 they don't like to hear his voice at least here was an interpreter or translator so

00:31:23.540 what's better for them i find the translators just as annoying but but uh it's it's funny how they take

00:31:33.000 credit for revoking the act before they had to produce proof for needing it oh we did it in a measured way

00:31:40.140 no you revoked it before you had to produce proof for ever needing it i have to say one thing too it

00:31:46.860 was both uh the prime minister and the mp they both used the words illegal occupation and we have yet to

00:31:54.080 find out or have anybody tell us what was illegal and when it was illegal what is is it they're talking

00:32:02.020 about they keep using that rhetoric and it has no basis there's no fact to it um and in fact

00:32:10.120 uh one of the clips that i did like from matthew flurry the counselor is he kept asking um the

00:32:16.560 police authorities what's illegal and they said we don't know so why are we continuing to maintain

00:32:24.440 that narrative of illegal occupation i would really love to know what it is as a lawyer because nobody's

00:32:31.540 been able to explain that to me either it's illegal to disagree with justin trudeau that's why he wants

00:32:37.860 to control the internet that's why he wants to control the internet uh because uh there are some

00:32:42.920 disagreeable folks on the internet that he can't control through the crtc and so he's just going to

00:32:48.040 extend that um he can't pollute certain people with subsidies so he's got to do something to get around

00:32:53.620 that and then um peaceful protests you cannot disagree with the government or you are a terrorist 0.94

00:32:59.760 sexist misogynist homophobic uh nightmare invader to the city that's another thing that really 0.98

00:33:05.280 bothers me about all this and again i think it goes to classism these are your fellow canadians 0.98

00:33:11.520 yeah they're not foreign invaders they came to their nation's capital where the seat of the government

00:33:20.480 is to protest the things the government is doing to them where else are they supposed to protest but

00:33:27.260 they're not foreign invaders they're canadians and if they want to protest in the nation's capital

00:33:32.980 they damn sure have a right to do it that's just how it is but they're treated like they are these

00:33:38.820 foreign infestation from some far-flung ill-behaved place they're just your fellow canadians 1.00

00:33:46.920 who see things a different way it really bothers me to see how they're talked about

00:33:51.440 yeah yeah you know i just want to go back on a point that you talked about in terms of democracy what

00:33:55.900 what's the definition of democracy according to justin trudeau and i think we found it

00:34:00.340 it's not disagreeing with justin trudeau you you are not allowed to disagree with the prime minister

00:34:04.700 in justin trudeau's democracy because apart from a slight disagreement in political beliefs and you

00:34:11.480 know inconvenience the truckers were peaceful there was it was a peaceful protest the the arson attempt

00:34:18.820 wasn't related to the truckers none of the big assault that the mainstream media was talking about

00:34:24.140 were related to the truckers so in terms of what the the protesters did wrong it was disagreeing with

00:34:30.800 justin trudeau and being inconvenient and i think that's that's what justin trudeau sees as a democracy

00:34:36.320 you're not allowed to disagree with him and you're not allowed to be slightly inconvenient well and i'd like

00:34:40.640 to take it a step further too is that these are like these are canadian citizens and they came to their

00:34:46.960 their elected mps their constituents and that discussion about having photos with these

00:34:54.120 protesters these are your constituents you are a public servant that that kind kind of line and

00:35:01.160 rhetoric really gets to me because who else are you serving if not the people and they felt unheard for

00:35:07.260 two years they raised concerns and then they finally thought maybe if we come to the nation's capital

00:35:14.000 we come in a large group they will listen to us our voices will finally be heard after three years

00:35:21.420 two years of this and yet it was i could say even worse uh degraded uh disrespected uh rather than

00:35:32.200 come this is your job as an mp to talk to your constituents and that how does that not happen i don't

00:35:40.960 understand and you know i think the reason why they don't feel the needs because they don't feel

00:35:44.120 the need that they are accountable they don't feel they don't feel accountable to the to the public

00:35:48.680 and actually i think we could show a clip of my scrums that i did with some of the mps yesterday when

00:35:53.180 i asked them if it is found that justin trudeau used this authoritarian law never seen before

00:35:59.140 unjustifiably and unnecessarily will you push for his resignation and i think the liberals answers

00:36:05.000 spoke volume can we show that clip olivia yeah oh there he is a little god if it's found by

00:36:11.480 jimmy she's like in fire yeah justin trudeau invoked jimmy she's like unjustified in an unjustified

00:36:18.140 manner and unnecessarily will you push for his resignation

00:36:21.700 will you have a nice day

00:36:29.560 will you push for justin trudeau's resignation if it is found that he used the emergencies act

00:36:35.900 unnecessarily

00:36:37.420 will you push for his resignation

00:36:42.940 mr garrettson why did you spend more time on twitter than working for your constituents

00:36:59.540 if you think that's the case you're spending too much time on twitter

00:37:03.680 i'd like to commit take a moment to commend william because i've watched some of these clips before i

00:37:12.000 came here and thank you for doing what you're doing because it is like i said shocking to me that

00:37:19.040 these mps are not speaking to canadians like you said they don't feel they're accountable and i think

00:37:26.040 this is wrong it's so wrong and this is why we ended up here so why were people here in ottawa

00:37:31.800 have you not learned your lesson yet yeah well and the thing is too you don't see anybody

00:37:39.500 in all the journalists infesting ottawa you don't see a single one of them buttonholing these politicians

00:37:46.240 on the street you only see william doing it and that is a complete and total failing of the

00:37:53.040 mainstream media this enormous once in a lifetime of accountability event is unfolding in their city

00:37:59.620 you've got liberal mps just free roaming the streets and only one person is asking them questions

00:38:07.600 and it's william and i think their silence speaks volumes i love william that you just leave it awkward

00:38:13.680 because it shows that they don't have a clue and i know they probably feel like barfing they're like

00:38:19.780 oh get this kid away and you just hold the microphone there it's the best um you know it's

00:38:24.780 hard and and this the sad thing about the fact about you know mainstream media reporters not

00:38:29.740 answering not answering not asking questions sorry is the fact that we are poor forced to pay them

00:38:34.920 through our taxes we are paying cbc reporters who are not asking any questions we are paying glenn mcgregor

00:38:42.280 by the way i saw in the in the commission building well i told him hey and he looked at me very

00:38:48.280 weirdly and wouldn't even say hi back but yeah i saw him earlier no none of them are asking

00:38:53.940 questions from a freedom oriented perspective glenn mcgregor prefers to you know push and get henzie

00:39:00.340 with some tamara lee supporters instead that guy's out of control i'm happy to see omar al-jabra got a

00:39:07.400 haircut though i think that's good for country um but he dressed better but just just come back to the

00:39:13.480 original point you know their silence speaks volume they don't feel they're accountable they don't feel

00:39:18.000 even if canadians like them they do not feel they will ever get away from power and that's why they

00:39:23.640 are doing such reckless law such reckless policy and taking so such authoritarian undemocratic decisions

00:39:31.020 the way that they are doing it right now is because they don't feel accountable to the canadian

00:39:34.680 population i think it goes back to our point that of the residents of ottawa not seeing the

00:39:40.680 convoyers as their fellow canadians you can tell these liberals they don't feel like they have to

00:39:46.460 be the government for all canadians even the canadians they disagree with they feel like they

00:39:52.280 only have to serve the people they agree with and that's not why they're paid to be there they're

00:39:57.800 supposed to be the government for all of canada and not everywhere up until winnipeg 100 yeah

00:40:05.180 yeah i had a thought that's why i'm constantly scribbling yeah that's why i'm constantly scribbling

00:40:14.660 that's a good idea they leave and i have to write them down i think we can throw to an ad here though

00:40:20.560 and eva i think you have to go right i'll come back again okay um so we're gonna let you go now then

00:40:28.840 you'll shuffle off you've had a long day but thank you so much thank you so much for coming on the show

00:40:33.640 and sharing your thoughts and doing your best to butt in when william and i are talking too much

00:40:38.920 and you're welcome back anytime thanks eva it's happy to come again great thank you let's throw

00:40:47.480 to that and let eva leave gracefully 1.00

00:40:49.260 hey folks from october 13th to november 25th we are here in ottawa for the emergencies act inquiry

00:40:59.120 organized by the public order emergency commission but why why the emergencies act inquiry well because

00:41:04.760 during the freedom convoy back in february justin trudeau used a never invoked before emergencies act

00:41:10.620 to basically seize protesters bank accounts seize protesters money seize their assets trampled their

00:41:16.080 civil liberties so we're here this month for the next month and a half to figure out if the way the

00:41:20.580 government acted was lawful and was appropriate so we are here to hold the government accountable but we

00:41:25.400 need your help we are here to cover it for you because everyone else here is mainstream media

00:41:28.860 so if you want to help us cover it if you want to help us bring you the other side of the story

00:41:33.160 factual actual news go to truckercommission.com and consider making a donation if you haven't checked

00:41:39.580 that's great let's put that on a t-shirt i thought that was great um

00:41:46.720 william can you hear me okay yeah right now i can hear i couldn't hear the first

00:41:51.560 first five seconds and i can hear oh i was complimenting you on your um turn a turn a

00:41:57.440 phrase of factual actual um let's go to this let's go to the next clip because there's some things going

00:42:04.920 on behind the scenes in the ops that i can first of all i don't think there's any good guys there

00:42:10.440 at first i thought uh chief slowly might be a good guy he didn't want to crack heads but now i see in

00:42:16.700 his communications with the opp they're saying whoa you're asking us to do things that we think

00:42:22.820 are illegal uh and we're not going to do them until we get legal advice and he had a fit it sounds like

00:42:31.840 with um superintendent abrams of the opp yeah i think the reason why i think the reason why you

00:42:39.420 thought he was one of the good guys that as soon as nowadays as soon as we see someone who's not

00:42:43.240 super radicalized in terms of his response to him convoy we think that they are moderate that

00:42:48.900 are actually on the right side right all things are relative i guess you put him up you put him

00:42:55.140 up to steve bell and you're like oh yeah he's a total total freedom lover but then when you put

00:42:59.720 him beside somebody like abrams who's like i'm not having my guys do illegal things no more uh abducting

00:43:07.360 peaceful protesters off the street thank you very much which is what they wanted to do they called it

00:43:12.800 snatch and grabs um you know when when you are the guy saying let's do some snatch and grabs

00:43:20.900 of beautiful protesters in the nation's capital you're probably not a good guy you're probably

00:43:26.720 not the good guy here and there was some serious serious internal turmoil because it sounds like the

00:43:35.700 opp were giving their intelligence reports to steve bell who is deputy chief and in charge of

00:43:44.800 intelligence at ops they were giving those to him although we'll hear more about this when he

00:43:50.600 testifies but this is sort of what i was able to put together it sounds like they were giving the

00:43:55.580 intelligence reports to him and either he wasn't giving them or digesting them and then giving him the

00:44:02.600 you know the briefing the chief on those of course it was but they weren't accurate and i'm not sure

00:44:08.560 what's going on there but there was a real problem with intel getting to chief slowly which i think is

00:44:15.340 my conspiratorial side says i think they sabotaged chief slowly because the guy who wasn't giving the intel

00:44:23.100 reports is now the chief fancy how that works um yeah go ahead no i think i think i think there's a

00:44:30.220 little bit of there's a little bit of what you say 100 percent um i think also there's a lack of organization

00:44:35.360 like we touched on in the very beginning i i can't believe how disorganized the ops the oppd

00:44:42.840 rcnp were all were none of them seem to be able to organize themselves and prepare themselves for a

00:44:48.700 protest that would actually last more than two days during the weekend even though all the protesters

00:44:54.280 all the truckers say said they were coming here for a long time until the mandates are lifted everyone

00:45:00.980 would say if yet the city and the police would only be able to prepare themselves for for the first

00:45:07.240 weekend i think they lacked a lot of organizational skills there yeah and it looked like chief slowly

00:45:13.340 had a tantrum and then complained to the minister abrin says he testified to an argument that he had with

00:45:18.780 chief slowly i'm just reading from my own twitter feed abrin's tried to convince slowly to pump the

00:45:24.160 brakes and allow them to mobilize 400 opp and rcmp officers into ottawa over the course of a week

00:45:31.460 because that's a huge deployment and they have to swear them all in apparently that takes hours

00:45:35.820 and then uh uh slowly threatened to go to the minister if he didn't do it immediately so he was trying

00:45:42.840 to bully up the chain of command and the rcmp um there's one thing uh there was one thing that was

00:45:52.240 very very um interesting here when they talked about um abrams told the commission that they had no assault

00:46:03.140 yeah and he also told the commission in his previous interview like his first intake interview as a

00:46:09.840 commission witness way back in the spring he said that the ops were in crisis mode they were cursing

00:46:17.580 and swearing and that they were yelling orders at each other and their partner agencies like it was

00:46:23.960 just complete and total chaos at the ops um nobody was in control chief slowly was trying to hang on to

00:46:32.420 control it sounds like because we have a clip of ferguson saying he didn't want to relinquish control

00:46:37.240 he clearly didn't have control of his own officers here and maybe we can throw to that clip of uh

00:46:44.060 deputy chief ferguson so she was in charge of sort of not intel but sort of the implementation of a lot

00:46:50.640 of the policing on the ground like community policing um and she said that slowly didn't want to relinquish

00:46:56.800 control to the opp which is fair it's his city um but he what things were spiraling out of control

00:47:04.400 and uh the only people who really seemed to have a handle on the situation was the opp

00:47:10.220 and even then it wasn't the best but at least they're honest i don't trust anybody else maybe

00:47:17.240 we can throw to that clip but the police services act sets out very specific circumstances where

00:47:24.080 the opp may take over command of a certain incident or area yes and one of those would be if a formal

00:47:32.880 request would be made from the ops chief to the opp commissioner correct i think that's how it

00:47:40.280 works yes although no such request was made in this case correct i would have been surprised if it was

00:47:47.060 i don't know though for sure so i didn't hear you i i don't know if it was made or not but did you say

00:47:52.660 it would you'd be surprised i would have been surprised if the request was made why would you

00:47:56.640 have been surprised because i don't think that that's what um former chief slowly was wanted why

00:48:02.080 i think you'd have to ask him it was clear to me that he was pushing back on on that oh i'm asking

00:48:10.920 you though because you have a lot you've had a lot of dealings with chief slowly so why in your

00:48:16.040 opinion and in your experience do you believe chief slowly uh would have refused to consider or would

00:48:22.020 would not have entertained the possibility of asking for formal assistance in that way i don't

00:48:26.680 believe he wanted to give up control i think he felt that this he was the chief in the in the police

00:48:31.500 of jurisdiction and he wanted that to be maintained there was a lot of things that she said in her

00:48:39.340 testimony today that we really should go back and clip um when you look at just exactly what she was

00:48:46.880 willing to invoke the emergencies act for i think that woman is tyrannical i don't think she should be in a 1.00

00:48:51.760 position of police leadership she seems sort of like i don't know blah blah i'm just here to do my 0.75

00:48:56.680 job i don't want to be involved in the politics but some of the stuff that she said was absolutely

00:49:03.820 crazy and you and i always call the emergencies act an anti-terrorism law or a counter-terrorism law

00:49:10.820 because that's what it's purpose yeah exactly that's what it's for it's for a foreign invasion or an

00:49:16.740 internal terrorist attack where you need to immediately stop funding to the terrorists if

00:49:22.780 you can and round them up real fast before they kill anybody else um it's used for 9-11 level events

00:49:31.380 it's used for pearl harbor level events um so one of those is an internal attack or launched internally

00:49:37.920 one of them is an external attack that's what it's for it's not so that you can as she said grease the

00:49:45.360 wheels to clear out the protest so it made things happen a little faster this thing that uh ottawa 0.94

00:49:54.340 found inconvenient no my phone's eavesdropping on me um she also said it allowed them to move ahead

00:50:01.220 with the plan with further confidence oh okay anti-terrorism law that's fine as long as the as the

00:50:07.980 police can move ahead with confidence this is not about giving police confidence yeah exactly that's

00:50:14.200 on the point of the ea right no i just thought uh what the problem i really have with all of this

00:50:25.500 depending on the outcome is if the government is not found to be uh overstepping by invoking this

00:50:34.720 thing we've just drastically lowered the bar for what counts as a terrorist act in canada yeah what

00:50:41.900 can they do in the future that's not i mean if they found that it was used justifiably and necessarily

00:50:48.740 yeah i mean we did this for horn honking bouncy castles traffic snarls and the wrong opinions

00:50:56.700 um what happens when you maybe want to have a referendum on separation in alberta wouldn't

00:51:05.220 breaking apart the country be an act of terrorism it depends on who you ask doesn't it um it's uh

00:51:12.380 it's really something else to see um these people what they are willing to stomp all over the rights of

00:51:20.060 their fellow canadians the how small of a thing they're willing to do that for yeah i think i think

00:51:27.700 the emergency act inquiry has exposed how radical some of the some of the witnesses are you know we

00:51:34.700 saw yesterday diane deans you know this is the same woman that says she wanted to basically pierce 0.99

00:51:40.820 through a bouncy castle yeah go around stabbing things with a knife who's the violent one you want

00:51:46.220 you want to stab a bouncy castle then you heard the bizarre lunatic testimony of catherine mckinney 0.54

00:51:53.520 when she was testifying we saw the testimony of zexy lee who was proud and who laughed as she was

00:52:00.960 saying that they were throwing eggs to protesters and throwing eggs on the truck now we have this

00:52:06.460 woman i think we see how radical some of those peoples are yeah yeah how little they care about freedom

00:52:14.220 or respect the freedom of other people and it was refreshing to hear superintendent abrams say

00:52:20.040 um i don't want to do illegal things we i don't want my not just i don't want to do it i don't want

00:52:27.500 my officers to be even remotely involved in any of this i don't even want the opp police liaison team

00:52:34.940 involved in any of this if you are going to be snatching and grabbing people we're not any part of

00:52:41.840 this and slowly was saying all of the officers that are coming to ottawa and this is in the readout of

00:52:50.080 their um back and forth said all of the officers who are coming to ottawa have to be willing to engage

00:53:01.440 in arrests for aiding mischief which was what they described bringing the fuel and food into the convoy

00:53:09.400 they said that's you know accomplice to mischief and they said if you're coming that's right i forgot

00:53:16.780 about that they must be willing to arrest people for bringing food and fuel in for stopping people

00:53:22.960 from freezing yeah yeah you know that's that that's unbelievable seeing that jerry cans became a symbol

00:53:29.140 of terrorism yeah i remember i wasn't i wasn't working with rebel news back then but when i saw that on

00:53:34.020 the news i just it was astonishing to hear that yeah we've got a few chats thank you very much

00:53:41.300 everybody let's read those and then sign off you and i have had a very long day we're back at it again

00:53:46.480 tomorrow and for the next i don't know five weeks six weeks um let's get to these so um yeah i think we

00:53:54.840 can go back a little actually because i don't think we read the one on oh maybe we did um on monday

00:54:00.620 i'm not sure if we read that one um it's anyways i'll just breeze through it it's adam ottawa because

00:54:04.760 it's five bucks i'll say that the city manager had a lot of credibility the most so far he answered 0.68

00:54:08.420 factually corrected himself didn't misspeak no emotions unlike those two elected clowns from last

00:54:13.040 friday that is true i notice also that jim watson he said that someone was coming from the maritimes i

00:54:21.640 forget which maritime province don't come at me maritimers it was either new brunswick or nova scotia

00:54:26.380 i won't get mad at you if you confuse alberta and saskatchewan um and he said that those people

00:54:31.580 i think you would i might a little bit um so anyways uh he said that somebody was arrested

00:54:38.860 for coming from i think it was new brunswick i'm gonna get a letter either way um and coming from

00:54:46.360 new brunswick to shoot him with a gun yeah and that somebody was arrested and i think somebody asked

00:54:52.440 for receipts as the kids say right somebody said uh i'm not when when did this happen i don't see

00:54:58.720 anything in the police charge records and then he said oh i misspoke that's a hell of a thing to

00:55:03.320 misspeak about don't you think that's not like uh i used new brunswick instead of nova scotia

00:55:07.820 or i said saskatchewan when i meant fort saskatchewan alberta um that's not a misspeak that is a complete

00:55:15.980 make-em-up and if someone were coming from another province to shoot me i might get the details right

00:55:21.780 you know i think jim watson now he he's leaving mayoral politics he might go with the liberal

00:55:27.280 party he might go as an ambassador i think he'd also have a good shot for working for the cbc

00:55:32.020 because that reminds me of the cbc's tactics you know they see uh the convoy is russianly funded

00:55:38.000 right there were guns in the convoy and then yeah yeah it was just we were just mistaking about that

00:55:44.060 it's not it's not a mistake you just make by accident it's a mistake you make on purpose and

00:55:48.260 that's not a mistake that's a lie it's a lie that's not a mistake that's a lie like you really 0.82

00:55:53.240 have to sit down and imagine that went up um i don't know how you could be mistaken that someone

00:55:59.700 was arrested for coming to kill you from halfway across the country like that's just these people 1.00

00:56:04.500 i keep saying it they are like stars in their own movie this is like they're they're they're

00:56:09.640 starlets it's right and when when he's called out for lying he said no just forget about it forget

00:56:14.920 about it never happened i misspoke yeah exactly just don't remember that it's all right let's 0.99

00:56:19.920 move on and that's jim watson is hoping that people are that stupid to the point they will forget 0.99

00:56:25.640 all the lies he said during his testimony yep uh we've got a super chat from salty shit i'll say it 1.00

00:56:34.300 because you're a young man you're a young person i don't want you swearing uh for five bucks says 0.99

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00:57:01.460 watch us as opposed to the mandatory carriage of being pumped into your home every single day whether

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00:57:23.300 we're living in yeah uh another one from salty shit gives us five bucks the person running this 0.95

00:57:29.480 committee is awesome let's keep it to the questions that she can answer yeah that's true uh judge 0.98

00:57:36.580 trillo i think he's he's doing okay he's doing okay right no yeah i think he's fair you can see

00:57:43.420 that he's engaging with the witnesses i don't think you know people had some doubts about him about about

00:57:48.320 his integrity about how how impartial the process would be honestly i lost some of those those doubts as

00:57:55.540 as the longer i see him work in the committee yeah well and that's the thing i don't really care about

00:58:02.260 is politics i really don't can he be impartial and it's good for me to know that someone who might

00:58:08.960 lean left can still be impartial that they can still keep their opinions out of things uh it's good

00:58:15.600 for me it's good for my mind to know that that side of the aisle is not completely fallen yeah there's

00:58:21.700 still some good people i mean yeah uh adam ottawa gives us five bucks says my impression of today's

00:58:27.100 ops deputy is that she is either wasn't being very forthcoming i think you might be right for

00:58:32.560 political reasons or she was kept out of the loop i'm leaning towards a bit of both but more to the

00:58:38.980 latter you think she was kept out of the loop i don't know i think she was uh purposefully obfuscating

00:58:44.700 in places where um i think it was a jccf lawyer might have been who said um but basically tried to pin her

00:58:56.700 or no maybe it was brendan miller no i think it was jccf rob kittred

00:59:01.540 brendan is great by the way i've got i've got to put it off here brendan is amazing

00:59:05.460 he he does such great cross examinations yeah they're all good they're the reason i continue to

00:59:13.160 pay attention because i know they're going to get there sometime um but i think it was rob

00:59:18.420 kittredge who pointed out look there were only 13 arrests in lead up to the invocation of the

00:59:25.020 emergencies act and then she sort of said back yeah but there were 400 in total well that means

00:59:30.260 the majority of them came after the extraordinary powers of arrest came along so under normal times

00:59:37.180 with normal laws and respect for charter rights you guys could only on the best of times with

00:59:43.440 additional cops roaming the city like stormtroopers come up with 13 charges and then after the fact

00:59:49.980 they came up with 400 um and she said well i don't know you're gonna have to ask chief slowly or

00:59:56.620 steve bell about that stuff she was the one in charge of actual policing so she would know but she 0.95

01:00:04.480 just thought no i'll just pass the fuck let somebody else testify to the facts i don't know she was pinned 0.99

01:00:09.840 down on you know i think he asked her you know by cutting off their bank accounts 0.98

01:00:16.640 where people actually stranded downtown now because you wouldn't let fuel in and they didn't have

01:00:23.220 money to fuel up and leave and she said oh i don't know i don't know what do you think lady 0.97

01:00:28.920 you know like it's just so stupid yeah no i think i think she does know it's just well 0.98

01:00:35.500 for ignorance happens a lot in the liberal liberal side of the aisle yeah uh and last one goes to 1.00

01:00:42.160 university five bucks according to trudeau it was only a fringe minority that was coming to ottawa 0.97

01:00:47.140 what a hypocrite yeah i remember that it was such a fresh minority they had to invoke the emergencies 0.91

01:00:52.000 act that that's how small the amount of people that were there was you know no firearms no violence 0.99

01:00:58.060 and it was so small that he had to invoke an anti-terrorism law yeah just a little street party

01:01:04.380 just a tiny little get together you know and it's funny because i'm old enough to remember and

01:01:09.820 william i know you aren't um i don't know if you guys remember when theresa spence i'm sure the

01:01:14.880 audience might know some of the people who've been around in politics the last 10 years

01:01:18.820 theresa spence was the chief of atewapiskat reserve and there was serious financial mismanagement

01:01:25.560 there in fact i think her boyfriend was charged i'm not sure if he went to jail but he was charged

01:01:32.440 with he was the financial manager of the town and he was charged with just basically

01:01:37.740 financial misappropriation of funds she's rolling around and escalating everybody else's house is 1.00

01:01:43.760 falling down and so the harper government said we're giving you guys money where's it all going

01:01:48.040 we're going to do an audit and she protested the audit by going to ottawa and sleeping and i say that

01:01:55.880 with heavy air quotes sleeping in a teepee in a park there she wasn't sleeping in the teepee she was

01:02:02.900 in the teepee during the day she was going to a four-star hotel at night and she was also oh yeah

01:02:08.200 that's right that's true i remember that yeah yeah ezra called her chief chicken noodle because

01:02:12.880 then she said she's going on a hunger strike and then um that's true she said she was eating moose 0.84

01:02:19.100 broth or something but she's the only hunger striker i ever know knew who put on weight you know 1.00

01:02:24.020 what i mean yeah justin shoulda went down there into her teepee when her family's involved in the

01:02:31.380 financial misappropriation of this impoverished indigenous community and basically sits shoulder

01:02:37.660 to shoulder with her he met with her but he couldn't met meet with a single one of these thousand

01:02:45.880 there's chief chicken noodle and justin trudeau i think holding an eagle feather yeah i imagine he's

01:02:52.220 he couldn't meet with a single protester yeah at the freedom in the meantime her boyfriend's 0.72

01:02:58.340 backing out of wapiskat cleaning the place out and uh i wonder if he showed her his buckskin jacket and

01:03:04.360 his uh a dream catcher tattoo or whatever the hell it is um but uh yeah he met with her but he

01:03:11.660 wouldn't meet with tamara leach because wrong politics right yeah because she didn't agree with him 0.99

01:03:18.480 yeah anyway i i think that's the show for tonight william thanks for doing such great work in

01:03:24.520 ottawa and working so hard all day not only are you paying attention to not only are you paying

01:03:29.900 attention to the commission you are uh door stopping those liberal mps on the streets and you are getting

01:03:37.120 the conservative mps reaction to and you're interviewing commission participants as they come

01:03:43.200 and go i don't know how you're doing it all um you must be close to the commission building

01:03:48.400 logistically speaking i think you are yeah we are pretty close to commission building we got a great

01:03:53.600 team behind here we got mauricio who's here and we've got isabel who's been helping me doing the

01:03:58.620 scrums of the mps as well running after them which is not easy by the way no it's not and it is uh it can

01:04:05.560 be a little nerve-wracking you're speaking truth to power like these are they think of themselves as

01:04:10.060 important people and so in your mind like maybe they're important but then you realize no omar

01:04:15.720 al-jabra is not an important individual at all he's not a shallow man as soon as you meet omar wants

01:04:25.660 you it's not hard to to talk to him afterwards it doesn't take a lot of courage to talk to a small man

01:04:31.120 who isn't able to answer a simple question or as soon as he starts talking he just gets spicy and 0.97

01:04:36.560 makes himself look like an idiot i love that he's probably scared to go outside in ottawa because 0.86

01:04:44.020 he might run into you anyway i should wrap the show up yeah let's try you probably need to go 0.99

01:04:48.500 eat you probably need to go eat because i'm going to get off on a tangent and i'm going to use that

01:04:52.380 nickname that i shouldn't i made it no we're not committed not to use the nickname yeah we've got to

01:04:57.360 be careful now everybody will be back we'll be back here same time tomorrow it's probably going to

01:05:04.300 be me it's probably going to be william and we'll be digesting the day's news from the convoy because

01:05:08.160 i am a go lewd to my computer and my chair all day live tweeting so that's another thing too you can

01:05:16.000 follow the trucker commission on my twitter account at sheila gunrood it's the exactly spelled how you

01:05:21.440 think it would be uh if you don't have time to pay attention to the commission well i got paid to do

01:05:26.520 it for you so anyway we'll be back here tomorrow will you william thanks so much thanks to the guys

01:05:32.960 behind the scenes there for all their hard work and uh support of william and as david menzies

01:05:38.760 always says although i'm not sure he follows through himself

01:05:41.520 thank you

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Rebel News Podcast - October 21, 2022

BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 6 ｜ Ft. Eva Chipiuk

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