Canada's future？ Showdown between gay rights vs. Muslim rights in UK. Guess who wins？
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In a city where there are 140,000 Muslim men praying in a park on the Muslim holiday of Eid, a gay teacher at a primary school in Birmingham, England, is under fire for teaching gay students about sex ed in class.
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Hello, my rebels. Today is Friday, and I have a story for you from Birmingham, United Kingdom.
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It is the second largest city in the UK, and it's a very Islamified city. In fact,
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I'm going to show you some footage now. If you're listening to my podcast, you won't see it,
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so you'll have to take my word for it, of 140,000 Muslim men praying in a park in Birmingham. I know
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it's a staggering thing to say and to hear, but that is Birmingham. How do you think that impacts
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LGBT sex ed? Well, it's obvious, but less obvious is how do you think left-wing activists like the
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Guardian newspaper react to the reaction? That's, I think, even more interesting. So that's what
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herewith is today's episode of the Ezra LeVance Show.
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You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast. Tonight, a story from 10 minutes into our future,
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the final showdown between gay rights and Muslim rights. Guess who wins? It's March 8th,
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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I saw this story out of the corner of my eye a couple of months ago. It was a short video
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segment online. It's from a meeting of concerned parents at a school. Now, the school is in Birmingham,
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the one in the United Kingdom, not in Alabama. Birmingham is the second largest city in the UK.
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What an ancient city. Here's its legal charter, almost 900 years old. Here's a picture of it
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drawn on the eve of the Industrial Revolution in 1732. Here's an early factory from the mid-18th
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century. Birmingham was hit in the Battle of Britain. It was bloodied but unbowed, of course.
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Look at how lovely it is today. Isn't that pretty? Just gorgeous. Birmingham. Look at that.
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Yeah, but Birmingham's a bit different these days, though. I know I mentioned to you I'd show you a
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school meeting, and I will in a moment, but I showed you that lovely green field. Let me show you a park
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in Birmingham called Small Heath Park. It's actually pretty big. See for yourself.
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According to the Daily Mail, there were 140,000 Muslim men there, men only, of course, praying for the Muslim holiday of Eid.
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Even if it was half that number, it was staggering.
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It's from a Muslim media outlet called Five Pillars.
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Parents come out and say that this is not acceptable.
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I think it's better if you control the placards and control the messages.
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It's a program that's been developed at Parkfield School over the last four years by a gay teacher called Mr. Moffat.
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And basically, Mr. Moffat's premise is that if you do not believe in homosexuality, you must be homophobic.
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And on that basis, it's designed this program called No Outsiders.
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And it's like proselytizing a homosexual way of life through it to young kids in primary school.
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We want the No Outsiders program to be withdrawn.
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And we want the school to be investigated as to why this took place.
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Because a lot of parents were objectionable about it.
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And it was done in a very surreptitious manner.
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And we're going to try and get our voice out there and tell people that we're not homophobic.
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We simply don't want our children's belief changed.
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Now, I want to pause for a moment and note a particular turn of phrase.
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He complains that people say if you don't support homosexuality, you're labeled as homophobic.
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I couldn't help but think if you don't support the religion of Islam, you're called Islamophobic.
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He doesn't want Muslim kids learning about homosexuality.
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And more than that, he actually wants an investigation into the teacher who was teaching it.
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And I noted it because I thought, you know, if that guy were Christian, he'd be, one, made world famous as a bigot.
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Three, every gay rights group would come down on him like a ton of bricks.
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And four, he'd be the one being investigated and possibly prosecuted for a hate crime.
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He wouldn't be calling for an investigation of a gay teacher.
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I mean, we all heard about the Christian bakery or the pizza parlor that was commanded to bake a gay wedding cake.
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No Muslim bakeries are subject to that rough justice.
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Anyways, back to Birmingham, the UK's second city.
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I say again, what I just showed you was from a Muslim TV outlet.
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So obviously, they're not going to call that Muslim man a bigot.
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But what about the mainstream media, which is currently on a transgender jihad, to borrow a phrase?
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In the last five years, trans went from an unknown concept to the center of the culture.
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Absolutely destroying women's sports along the way, of course.
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And creeping into everything from public bathrooms to prisons.
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Muslim mums protest outside school for promoting homosexuality to their kids.
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It's a pretty friendly headline, don't you think?
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A group of angry mums have launched a protest and petition against their school for introducing a curriculum supporting homosexuality.
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Andrew Moffitt, MBE, assistant head teacher at Parkfield Community School in Saltley,
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has been criticized by parents for piloting No Outsiders,
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a program run alongside sex and relationship education lessons.
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Its ethos promotes LGBT equality and challenges homophobia in primary schools.
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Books now being read by pupils at Parkfield Community School include
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stories about same-sex relationships and marriages.
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But Mr. Moffitt and the No Outsiders program have come under fire
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from some Muslim parents who condemn such teachings
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as homosexuality is strictly forbidden in Islam.
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I know it felt like I read the whole thing new.
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It goes into detail about Muslim views on gays.
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It does give some space to Mr. Moffitt, the gay teacher, for sure.
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Never once are these women condemned or judged.
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And funny enough, there's no gay lobby group quoted condemning them.
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I mean, just for example, we saw Kevin Hart, a pretty funny comedian, I think,
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because he made a dumb gay joke on Twitter back in 2011.
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99% of the students at the school in question are Muslim.
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Counselor backs Muslim mums who accuse school of promoting homosexuality
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Alum Rock counselor Mohammed Idris has said being open about LGBT in the classroom
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The actor, Hugh Jackman, has actually done a video about him being a great teacher.
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But they live in fancy parts of London and send their kids to elite schools,
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we're out of here, Hugh Jackman isn't enough to convince them.
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This story has been gurgling around for months.
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Well, take a look at this protest outside the school this week.
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This program, it's not just about telling people that other families and other types of lifestyles exist.
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It's actually aggressively promoting them, giving it a positive spin and telling people that it is okay for you to be Muslim and for you to be gay.
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Mr. Moffat, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
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Mr. Moffat, I did not want to make this possible.
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But Mr. Moffat has decided upon his own self to reinterpret our religious scriptures.
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And I don't know, I don't know where he gets his religious education from and when he became Mufti Moffat.
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but our religious beliefs are not here to be changed we don't send our children to school
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to be indoctrinated that's the word that our these parents have been saying again and again
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and again this is an aggressive indoctrination that is going on that we are speaking against
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if there was no aggressive promotion then you would not have had all these parents come out on
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the street and as i've said to you this program is very toxic not only do we we are aiming to have
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it abolished in this school but we're gonna have it abolished in every school in Birmingham every
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school in the country and that's gonna happen with the grassroots movement of parents coming out on
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the streets that's what that is what is needed parents coming out and fighting their corner
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and fighting for their children's rights what do you think of that homemade preacher mobile
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holy cow i get the feeling he uses that every day half the kids at the school are outside the school
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laughing and mocking that gay teacher mr moffat and would you look at this would you look at this
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birmingham school stops lgbt lessons after parents protest hundreds of children withdrawn from parkfield
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community school for the day apparently 600 children were taken out of class by their parents
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they've been having that protest in different form for weeks how did you think this was going to end
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yeah so this story is from the guardian this capitulation story it's a perfectly left-wing newspaper we don't
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have anything as left-wing of that in canada it's a caricature of left-wingedness and i read the story
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very carefully no gay rights groups were quoted no one was called a homophobe in fact the only time
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that the word homophobe was used was quoting a muslim mom saying she's not a homophobe can i ask where
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all the gay rights activists went i mean even at the guardian i mean of course they're not going to be
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in that muslim video channel but how about the guardian why are they so silent here can i show you
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a news clip from rt that stands for russia today it's a state broadcaster uh for for vladimir putin
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but i thought it was interesting um i'm going to run it for for more in a minute here uh because i think
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the media coverage is just as big a story here as the story itself take a look a primary school in
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birmingham has caved into pressure and temporarily pulled the plug on its lessons on lgbt rights that's
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after hundreds of parents reportedly kept their children at home in protest rt's polly bojka gives
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us the details well the cause of this row is a educational diversity program called no outsiders and
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it aims to teach kids about the different types of families that they might encounter and talking to
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them about things like the idea of having two mums or two dads and reading books to kids as young as four
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about the concept of uh same-sex families the program was devised by the deputy head of the school at the center of this
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row his name is andrew moffat and actually he's been uh nominated for the world's best teacher award
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take a look at him talking about the program mummy lula hugged her and now they were sick on both of
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them mummy nina got some tissues and wiped them both now our size is about teaching children that
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you are different but you can still be friends with anybody there's a huge rise in hate crime in the last
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year as schools we have to find ways to teach children to talk to counter that really but the
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majority of the parents at this school are unhappy with andrew moffat's teaching methods um it's a
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predominantly muslim school and parents fundamentally disagree with the idea of teaching kids about
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homosexuality and lgbt issues um some of our viewers might know that islam in islam homosexuality
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is forbidden so up until now the school had really held firm and said that they would continue this
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what they see as a very necessary diversity program
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just saying without comment that islam is anti-gay
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because that's pretty much true and it's something that people normally don't like to talk about we
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we see the six gender sex ed that kathleen wynn introduced in ontario we see gay straight alliance
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laws that david eggin is introducing in alberta but that's not happening in muslim schools
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and no one is suing or condemning them in fact the former premier of ontario kathleen wynn who
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was an out of the closet lesbian activist frankly well look at that picture of her there
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she's wearing a hijab and she's sitting at the back of a mosque all by herself submissive
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pretty sure that's the polar opposite of how she is in any other setting
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she's submitting there i mean she's gone now as premier but she was submitting
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rachel notley is submissive too to the religion of peace here she is wearing a
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hijab for some reason even though she wasn't in a mosque at least kathleen wynn had the excuse of
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being in a mosque this is rachel not wearing a hijab at her office
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well there's a good reason for this well i don't know maybe you'd call it a bad reason
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let me show you a massive poll done of british muslims by the impeccable firm called icm it was
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done for channel 4 an impeccably liberal british broadcaster and the story was led by trevor phillips
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the black man who used to head up their human rights commission in the uk he himself actually
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popularized the phrase islamophobia now i've done a larger video on this poll a couple years ago and
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i recommend you dig it up this was a meticulous poll they actually sent people in to do person
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face-to-face interviews in muslim areas of the uk sending muslims in to have heart-to-heart
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conversations this wasn't just an online poll or a phone call poll frankly this was the most
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comprehensive public opinion poll i have ever heard of in my life and the poll
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the poll shows that the overwhelming number of british muslims want to criminalize homosexuality
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52 percent want it criminalized 18 percent don't the question you could see homosexuality should be legal
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in britain 18 percent um say it should be legal 52 percent say it should be illegal to be homosexual
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when asked if gays should be allowed to be teachers 28 percent say yeah and 47 percent say no
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huge sample size 1081 that's the united kingdom that's birmingham that's parents and kids standing
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outside mr moffat's office laughing at him he'll be gone from that school soon enough sorry you can't have
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a handful of white liberals running the place when 600 kids and their parents are outside screaming at you
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or i don't know 140 000 as the case may be like i say it's a snapshot of our own place
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of our own country about 10 minutes into the future myself i think sex ed goes too far as in
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i think it starts too young i think it starts too young i don't think you need to sexualize
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children of tender years in ontario the the extreme sex ed starts at the tender age of six
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at least under kathleen wynn's sex ed program but that's not the debate i'm having here today
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that's not my point here i think sex ed does go too far frankly there's probably a few things i
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agree with these muslim moms about but my point is here leftists liberals gay rights activists social
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justice warriors i don't think they mean any of it i just don't even at the guardian not at the guardian
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not in the schools not anywhere not even the gay rights organizations not when it's
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it's islam they're up against hey folks it's a simple choice a liberal society or open immigration
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choose one you can't have both people stay with us for more
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uh well uh time will tell but i have a feeling that
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our relationship with north korea kim jong-un and myself chairman kim i think it's a very good one
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i think it remains good i would be uh surprised in a negative way if he did anything that was
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not per our understanding but we'll see what happens look when i came in
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under the obama administration north korea was a disaster you were going to war folks whether you
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know it or not you were going to where there was no talking there was testing we didn't have our people
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back we didn't have our great hostages back now we're getting the remains we're doing a lot of things
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now uh this was a disaster i inherited a mess in many ways i in the middle east i inherited a mess
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and it's straightening out a lot we're doing very well there i inherited a mess i inherited wait wait
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i inherited a mess with north korea and right now you have no testing you have no nothing let's see
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what happens but i would be very disappointed if i saw testing there you have it president donald trump
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doing a scrum at the white house before departing for alabama talking about his recent summit in
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vietnam with kim jong-un the leader of north korea well what to make of it no deal was done trump
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sounding a little bit defensive but pointing out some progress was made nonetheless well there's one
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man i know who's an expert on this subject and his name is gordon chang he's the author of the book
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nuclear showdown north korea takes on the world and the forthcoming monograph
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called losing south korea that will be published by encounter books gordon great to see you again
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thank you very much for joining us today thank you so much ezra well gordon i have a question for you
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um was it wise for donald trump to walk away from a bad deal or would any deal have been preferable to
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no deal oh i think it was a great thing that president trump walked away from hanoi what he was
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saying to the north koreans was that they just couldn't serve up any slop and that we would
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accept it which is what i think kim jong-un sort of felt that they felt that they had trump in a
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corner that trump felt he had to make a deal and and our president said look i'm just not going to be
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bullied but this is also important because it's a message to the chinese you know we've got these
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trade negotiations i think the chinese were getting again a little bit too confident that they
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could push the us around and right now in beijing i'm sure they're in a little bit of a panic because
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they realize they need an agreement with america and they just might not get it now i've seen some
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criticism from pundits that donald trump's rhetoric is very friendly towards kim jong-un now my instinct is
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when you're my analogy is it's like a hostage negotiation with a hostage taker you say things
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to flatter them to make to put them at ease because until they put down the gun you'll almost do
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anything until they have that power away in this case the gun is nuclear weapons so my own instinct
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is that when trump says chairman kim when he's deferential when he when he praises him that that's
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probably not what trump truly feels but it's it's what you do when you're trying to negotiate with a
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paranoid tyrant dictator and you don't want to push the button that's my own amateur instinct what's your
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thoughts as a long-time observer um i'm a little bit concerned about the friendliness of the tone
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and there's a reason here this is legitimization of the north korean regime this is something that kim
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really wants and when trump actually talks about him in terms of chairman um what kim is it's music
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to his ears now i can understand your point um you know and this is the way we have dealt with the north
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koreans over the course of decades unfortunately it quite has not worked and i think you know trump
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was extremely successful before june of last year when he had his maximum pressure campaign when he was
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vigorously enforcing sanctions the north koreans were making all the concessions he was making none
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of them that's the textbook definition of successful diplomacy since then when he said he's giving kim
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this one-time shot to do the right thing trump has been generous and kim has not really been reciprocating
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so i think what trump is doing is he's saying okay i'm going to give you this chance but i'm going to go
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back to the more effective coercive tactics later if you don't come around and kim unfortunately right now
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is not coming around now you mentioned china um i have a this sense and i i think you agree tell me
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if you don't that that china in many ways controls north korea and of course um kim jong-un takes these
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armored train visits to china to get his instructions it feels very very uh stalinist taking an armored train
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maybe he's paranoid about being shot down in a plane or something um can can you you mentioned
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china and they might be nervous can you try and tie this together for us how uh does this fit in with
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trump's negotiations with china over trade is it is it is it both sides trying to use north korea as a
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weapon against the other like a negotiation tactic help us figure it out a bit
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yeah ezra your instincts are right china does control north korea although the chinese say that
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they don't and of course the north koreans don't say that either but kim jong-un has made four straight
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trips to chinese soil xi jinping the chinese ruler has made none to north korea that's a real indication
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of a vassal relationship on the part of the north koreans so um i think that xi jinping is absolutely
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trying to use north korea as a bargaining chip in trade talks with the us and that was i thought
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pretty clear about maybe three weeks ago when chinese state media suggested that trump go to
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chinese soil to meet xi jinping at hanan an island um immediately after trump was going to meet kim uh in
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hanoi um now trump decided not to do that that's a very good move on the part of our president um but
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the chinese are trying to um put the two together and i think what trump is trying to do um is sort
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of avoid that and figure out how to deal with the chinese on a more effective basis now i don't want
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you to give away the surprise i know it's coming out soon your new monograph losing south korea can
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you give our viewers a little bit of a teaser of what you'll say there because of course we love south
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korea um a free democratic economic success an ally um they obviously have deep familial ties ethnic
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ties historic ties to the north what do you mean by losing south korea who's losing it and who are we
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losing it to um we're losing it to north korea you know for most north americans you know you think that
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how could a destitute north korea take over a larger prosperous stronger south korea but i think that
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that's much more probable than the other way around and what's going on right now is moon jae in the
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south korean president is deeply anti-american he's pro north korean he's undermining democracy in his
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own society he tried to take the concept of freedom out of the south korean constitution he failed but
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nonetheless he did take it out of the textbooks last year and right now he's taking control of
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broadcasters he's jailing journalists he's muzzling north korean defectors in south korea he's taking down
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defenses of south korea to a north korean attack he's whitewashing the north koreans you know if
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he were a traitor in fact if he were trying to help north korea to take over south korea he would be
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doing exactly what he's doing now now i can't speak to what he thinks deep inside only he knows that
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but we've got to be very concerned that we could lose south korea as a free society because of the
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subversion of its president most south koreans are not in favor of moon's policies on this regard
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but nonetheless moon is the one who is sitting in the blue house so not them wow that is shocking i
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am unaware of this i'm very glad to learn of it from you and i can hardly wait for your uh new
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monograph to come out from encounter books when it is we'll hopefully be able to have you on to talk
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about it and we'll send an email link to our people so they can get it hopefully it'll be on amazon
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gordon you're very generous with your time you are my number one favorite expert on these matters
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would you please permit me to ask you one question about an unrelated matter and that is the huawei case
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where a very senior executive of huawei in fact the daughter of the founder was arrested in vancouver
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and is in the process of an extradition fight to to go to the the states for various uh white collar
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crimes uh that she's accused of this has created a crisis between china and canada a couple of
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hostages three hostages i think still being held can you shine any light on this can you give us some
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perspective uh give our viewers one thing that they might not know about how china might be using this
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or seeing this battle well the communist party uses huawei which is employee owned as an instrumentality
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to accomplish chinese purposes so for instance um you know right now the world is deciding whose
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equipment to use on 5g huawei or american equipment and right and right now we got to remember that the
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chinese donated the headquarters of the african union um and from 2012 to 2017 five-year period
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every night the chinese were surreptitiously downloading information off the servers of
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the african union headquarters in addos ababa and they were using huawei equipment to accomplish that
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so while huawei says it would never spy on others at the behest of the communist party of china that's
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exactly what it's doing and just one other small detail which has escaped people's attention but in
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hong kong huawei smartphones because huawei is a big provider of smartphones around the world you can't
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download twitter or content from mozilla firefox now if you're a smartphone provider and you want to sell
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smartphones you would not do that but of course you would do that if you had to because the communist
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party wants to censor um the conversations in hong kong so it is an instrumentality of the communist
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party and you know people say look you know canada is in the middle of this fight no it's not um canada
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is this big stake in making sure that the world stays free and so this is i think an existential struggle
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when you look at 5g ai all of it huawei huawei is in the middle of the communist party's attempts to
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dominate the world wow that's amazing i i knew about the african union headquarters i did not know
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that you could literally not download various communications apps on the phones in hong kong
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that is shocking to me gordon i learned so much from you i'm so grateful for your time i understand
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you were a big hit at cpac this year we'll have to be there next year to catch you on the big stage
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there thank you for all the work you do we learn so much and we're always grateful for your time
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oh i'm so grateful to be on your air ezra so thank you well that's that's nice of you to say
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you're welcome anytime my friend well there you have it gordon chang a very important author and
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thinker in these matters and we'll be sure to try and get him back on when his monograph losing
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south korea is published stay with us more ahead on the rebel
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hey welcome back your letters to me paul writes this is far from over they won't be able to sell
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the job spin to anyone but their most die-hard supporters paul's talking about the snc lavalan
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excuse there's so many reasons why that jobs excuse doesn't work first of all um snc lavalan
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is going to be on the hook for this prosecution whether they're based in montreal or based anywhere
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else they're going to be on the hook whether or not those jobs i mean it's it's just irrelevant to
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whether they're being prosecuted irrelevant to where they're located they just signed a huge new lease
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i think a 20-year lease in montreal did huge renovations they're not going anywhere and i
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mean there's there's about 10 little technical reasons why it's a bs excuse but of course the
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biggest one is i don't actually think that uh justin trudeau and gerald butts deeply care about
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jobs you can't say that after killing 100 billion dollars worth of shovel ready projects in the oil
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patch you can't you can't have unemployment in calgary once again being the highest in the country
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you can't have 200 000 people unemployed in oil and gas and say no no we did this for the jobs you
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just don't have the right to say that don writes not enough attention is being paid to the fact that
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katie telford said that she could arrange for several favorable op-ed pieces if jody wilson raybold
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would change her mind well i think you're exactly right on that because of course to mention that
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would be to acknowledge that the industry is in fact corrupted i think we've always known that the
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cbc was corrupted they literally get paid by justin trudeau i think we've always sensed that the other
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big broadcasters are corrupted too because although they may not all take money from the government they
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are heavily regulated by the crtc not just ctv and the radio stations but of course if you're a company
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that has a tv station and also a cell phone company you're doubly regulated so even if you don't get
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cash directly from the government if you're a big tv or radio station you are hyper regulated by the
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government so you do what they say and let's say you're just a newspaper that has no connection to
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government regulation well that's where the bailout comes in the 595 million dollar bailout so yeah
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i think the reason why we don't have more investigation as to who those katie telford
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journalists is is because well because it's all of them on listening to the podcast version of the
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show robert writes i'm a premium member and like the podcast more than the tv version because i can listen
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from my phone during my daily walks or driving robert that is a great idea and i guess i am i
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haven't done that myself i'm not a big podcast guy and so i keep thinking well gee whiz why don't people
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watch the video side of it too well obviously if you're driving most people don't watch a video while
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driving i won't say all people because i happen to know someone who does and um of course when you're
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like on the bus or something generally it's just easier to listen or like you say walking i i suppose
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those are some things i never do like going to the gym or whatever on janice atkinson working for the
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rebel joan writes what great videos coming in from europe janice really sheds a pure unfiltered light
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on the migrant situation i was born in the uk and used to love to return for visits not anymore
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it's not the same place great job janice janice is doing a good job and if you don't know what i'm
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talking about you should go to rebelfrance.com janice spent a few days in calais which is
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the jumping off point for a lot of these migrants to get into the uk and wistram which is another
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place she was even on the beaches of normandy you know the very beaches that's juno beach
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sword you know where the allies on d-day canada had the juno beach of course the where we liberated
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europe those same patches of beach are where the reverse invasion is coming from that's where
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the migrants hop on the dinghies to cross the english channel to the uk isn't that interesting
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if you don't know what i'm talking about go to rebelfrance.com and you can see janice doing it
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well folks that's the show for today and for the week until monday on behalf of all of us here at
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rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom