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Canada's future? Showdown between gay rights vs. Muslim rights in UK. Guess who wins?


Summary

In a city where there are 140,000 Muslim men praying in a park on the Muslim holiday of Eid, a gay teacher at a primary school in Birmingham, England, is under fire for teaching gay students about sex ed in class.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today is Friday, and I have a story for you from Birmingham, United Kingdom.
00:00:07.400 It is the second largest city in the UK, and it's a very Islamified city. In fact,
00:00:14.520 I'm going to show you some footage now. If you're listening to my podcast, you won't see it,
00:00:17.920 so you'll have to take my word for it, of 140,000 Muslim men praying in a park in Birmingham. I know
00:00:28.940 it's a staggering thing to say and to hear, but that is Birmingham. How do you think that impacts
00:00:36.080 LGBT sex ed? Well, it's obvious, but less obvious is how do you think left-wing activists like the
00:00:47.620 Guardian newspaper react to the reaction? That's, I think, even more interesting. So that's what
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00:01:36.920 herewith is today's episode of the Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:41.160 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast. Tonight, a story from 10 minutes into our future,
00:01:48.740 the final showdown between gay rights and Muslim rights. Guess who wins? It's March 8th,
00:01:54.660 and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:58.000 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:02:01.640 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:02:05.960 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:02:10.840 right to do so.
00:02:17.240 I saw this story out of the corner of my eye a couple of months ago. It was a short video
00:02:22.400 segment online. It's from a meeting of concerned parents at a school. Now, the school is in Birmingham,
00:02:27.620 the one in the United Kingdom, not in Alabama. Birmingham is the second largest city in the UK.
00:02:35.560 What an ancient city. Here's its legal charter, almost 900 years old. Here's a picture of it
00:02:44.860 drawn on the eve of the Industrial Revolution in 1732. Here's an early factory from the mid-18th
00:02:53.120 century. Birmingham was hit in the Battle of Britain. It was bloodied but unbowed, of course.
00:02:59.860 Look at how lovely it is today. Isn't that pretty? Just gorgeous. Birmingham. Look at that.
00:03:08.860 Yeah, but Birmingham's a bit different these days, though. I know I mentioned to you I'd show you a
00:03:13.320 school meeting, and I will in a moment, but I showed you that lovely green field. Let me show you a park
00:03:19.140 in Birmingham called Small Heath Park. It's actually pretty big. See for yourself.
00:03:24.700 All right.
00:03:45.360 That's Small Heath Park in Birmingham.
00:04:15.360 According to the Daily Mail, there were 140,000 Muslim men there, men only, of course, praying for the Muslim holiday of Eid.
00:04:24.120 Even if it was half that number, it was staggering.
00:04:26.760 So now you know Birmingham a bit.
00:04:29.860 Let's watch that school video after all.
00:04:31.620 It's from a Muslim media outlet called Five Pillars.
00:04:34.700 Take a look.
00:04:35.700 Parents come out and say that this is not acceptable.
00:04:39.520 It's against the Equalities Act.
00:04:42.360 We are on the side of the law.
00:04:43.740 They are outside the law of the school.
00:04:46.280 I, in fact, think that they have actually...
00:04:48.120 I think it's better if you control the placards and control the messages.
00:04:51.740 As long as we're not...
00:04:52.980 We held this meeting.
00:05:02.280 It's to do with no outsiders in our school.
00:05:04.220 It's a program that's been developed at Parkfield School over the last four years by a gay teacher called Mr. Moffat.
00:05:11.820 And basically, Mr. Moffat's premise is that if you do not believe in homosexuality, you must be homophobic.
00:05:19.440 And on that basis, it's designed this program called No Outsiders.
00:05:27.300 And it's like proselytizing a homosexual way of life through it to young kids in primary school.
00:05:35.760 Now, that's changing our children's belief.
00:05:39.460 We want the No Outsiders program to be withdrawn.
00:05:42.600 We want an apology from the school.
00:05:46.820 And we want the school to be investigated as to why this took place.
00:05:52.820 Because a lot of parents were objectionable about it.
00:05:57.240 A lot of parents weren't consulted.
00:05:59.260 And it was done in a very surreptitious manner.
00:06:02.180 We're going to protest.
00:06:04.140 And we're going to try and get our voice out there and tell people that we're not homophobic.
00:06:09.840 We simply don't want our children's belief changed.
00:06:12.020 And we want our community ethos respected.
00:06:15.580 Now, I want to pause for a moment and note a particular turn of phrase.
00:06:19.000 He complains that people say if you don't support homosexuality, you're labeled as homophobic.
00:06:24.680 I couldn't help but think if you don't support the religion of Islam, you're called Islamophobic.
00:06:30.660 That's the first thing I thought of there.
00:06:32.240 But the rest of what he says was pretty plain.
00:06:35.020 He doesn't want Muslim kids learning about homosexuality.
00:06:38.560 And more than that, he actually wants an investigation into the teacher who was teaching it.
00:06:43.940 So that video was back in February.
00:06:46.100 And I noted it because I thought, you know, if that guy were Christian, he'd be, one, made world famous as a bigot.
00:06:54.580 Two, fired from his job by some Twitter mob.
00:06:59.560 Three, every gay rights group would come down on him like a ton of bricks.
00:07:03.560 And four, he'd be the one being investigated and possibly prosecuted for a hate crime.
00:07:09.660 He wouldn't be calling for an investigation of a gay teacher.
00:07:13.160 That's just a fact.
00:07:14.120 I mean, we all heard about the Christian bakery or the pizza parlor that was commanded to bake a gay wedding cake.
00:07:24.680 They're all Christian bakers, of course.
00:07:26.700 No Muslim bakeries are subject to that rough justice.
00:07:29.960 Anyways, back to Birmingham, the UK's second city.
00:07:34.160 I say again, what I just showed you was from a Muslim TV outlet.
00:07:37.700 So obviously, they're not going to call that Muslim man a bigot.
00:07:41.380 But what about the mainstream media, which is currently on a transgender jihad, to borrow a phrase?
00:07:48.580 I mean, holy cow.
00:07:49.680 In the last five years, trans went from an unknown concept to the center of the culture.
00:07:55.320 Absolutely destroying women's sports along the way, of course.
00:07:58.820 And creeping into everything from public bathrooms to prisons.
00:08:03.500 So where's the LGBT lobby here in Birmingham?
00:08:09.320 Well, thanks for asking.
00:08:10.860 It is hiding.
00:08:12.960 Here's a story in the Birmingham Mail.
00:08:15.680 Muslim mums protest outside school for promoting homosexuality to their kids.
00:08:20.220 It's a pretty friendly headline, don't you think?
00:08:23.380 Let me read some of the story.
00:08:26.220 A group of angry mums have launched a protest and petition against their school for introducing a curriculum supporting homosexuality.
00:08:34.080 Andrew Moffitt, MBE, assistant head teacher at Parkfield Community School in Saltley,
00:08:39.980 has been criticized by parents for piloting No Outsiders,
00:08:43.380 a program run alongside sex and relationship education lessons.
00:08:47.440 Its ethos promotes LGBT equality and challenges homophobia in primary schools.
00:08:56.320 Books now being read by pupils at Parkfield Community School include
00:08:59.420 Mommy, Mama, and Me, and King and King,
00:09:03.960 stories about same-sex relationships and marriages.
00:09:07.260 But Mr. Moffitt and the No Outsiders program have come under fire
00:09:10.300 from some Muslim parents who condemn such teachings
00:09:12.740 as homosexuality is strictly forbidden in Islam.
00:09:16.480 Now, it is an extremely long article.
00:09:20.740 I know it felt like I read the whole thing new.
00:09:23.420 It goes on and on and on and on.
00:09:26.780 It quotes Muslim mums at great length.
00:09:29.240 It goes into detail about Muslim views on gays.
00:09:32.300 It does give some space to Mr. Moffitt, the gay teacher, for sure.
00:09:35.980 But let me end the suspense.
00:09:38.460 Never once are these women condemned or judged.
00:09:40.680 Never once are they called bigots.
00:09:42.160 And funny enough, there's no gay lobby group quoted condemning them.
00:09:49.240 Why is that?
00:09:50.840 I mean, just for example, we saw Kevin Hart, a pretty funny comedian, I think,
00:09:55.720 be canceled as the host for this year's Oscars
00:09:58.300 because he made a dumb gay joke on Twitter back in 2011.
00:10:04.380 Let he delete it.
00:10:06.900 That's how hair-trigger things are.
00:10:09.100 But not in Birmingham?
00:10:13.140 Oh, right.
00:10:19.640 That's why.
00:10:21.580 99% of the students at the school in question are Muslim.
00:10:25.040 And it won't surprise you.
00:10:26.420 So is the local politician.
00:10:27.660 He can count.
00:10:30.040 He's Muslim himself, actually.
00:10:33.040 Counselor backs Muslim mums who accuse school of promoting homosexuality
00:10:38.420 is another headline in the Birmingham paper.
00:10:42.780 Alum Rock counselor Mohammed Idris has said being open about LGBT in the classroom
00:10:48.700 is, quote, not a good idea.
00:10:51.120 Oh, it's settled then, I guess.
00:10:53.580 Well, the school dug in a bit.
00:10:55.120 I mean, Mr. Moffitt is a bit of a celebrity.
00:10:56.820 He's been on all the talk shows.
00:10:59.320 The actor, Hugh Jackman, has actually done a video about him being a great teacher.
00:11:04.840 So the fancy people were not giving up.
00:11:07.660 But they live in fancy parts of London and send their kids to elite schools,
00:11:12.100 not schools like this one.
00:11:14.580 They don't live in Birmingham.
00:11:17.280 Did I say Birmingham?
00:11:19.320 Birmingham.
00:11:21.480 I mean, when your entire parent body says,
00:11:23.620 we're out of here, Hugh Jackman isn't enough to convince them.
00:11:28.440 So how did it all end?
00:11:33.160 This story has been gurgling around for months.
00:11:35.200 Well, take a look at this protest outside the school this week.
00:11:39.380 But we need to make one thing very clear.
00:11:43.200 This program, it's not just about telling people that other families and other types of lifestyles exist.
00:11:51.960 It's actually aggressively promoting them, giving it a positive spin and telling people that it is okay for you to be Muslim and for you to be gay.
00:12:04.380 Mr. Moffat, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
00:12:11.520 Mr. Moffat, I did not want to make this possible.
00:12:16.840 But Mr. Moffat has decided upon his own self to reinterpret our religious scriptures.
00:12:23.900 And I don't know, I don't know where he gets his religious education from and when he became Mufti Moffat.
00:12:31.900 but our religious beliefs are not here to be changed we don't send our children to school
00:12:42.420 to be indoctrinated that's the word that our these parents have been saying again and again
00:12:50.000 and again this is an aggressive indoctrination that is going on that we are speaking against
00:12:57.480 if there was no aggressive promotion then you would not have had all these parents come out on
00:13:03.480 the street and as i've said to you this program is very toxic not only do we we are aiming to have
00:13:10.980 it abolished in this school but we're gonna have it abolished in every school in Birmingham every
00:13:17.180 school in the country and that's gonna happen with the grassroots movement of parents coming out on
00:13:24.420 the streets that's what that is what is needed parents coming out and fighting their corner
00:13:30.780 and fighting for their children's rights what do you think of that homemade preacher mobile
00:13:35.520 holy cow i get the feeling he uses that every day half the kids at the school are outside the school
00:13:44.000 laughing and mocking that gay teacher mr moffat and would you look at this would you look at this
00:13:50.560 birmingham school stops lgbt lessons after parents protest hundreds of children withdrawn from parkfield
00:13:58.680 community school for the day apparently 600 children were taken out of class by their parents
00:14:05.960 they've been having that protest in different form for weeks how did you think this was going to end
00:14:13.740 yeah so this story is from the guardian this capitulation story it's a perfectly left-wing newspaper we don't
00:14:27.720 have anything as left-wing of that in canada it's a caricature of left-wingedness and i read the story
00:14:34.460 very carefully no gay rights groups were quoted no one was called a homophobe in fact the only time
00:14:44.700 that the word homophobe was used was quoting a muslim mom saying she's not a homophobe can i ask where
00:14:54.460 all the gay rights activists went i mean even at the guardian i mean of course they're not going to be
00:15:01.060 in that muslim video channel but how about the guardian why are they so silent here can i show you
00:15:11.660 a news clip from rt that stands for russia today it's a state broadcaster uh for for vladimir putin
00:15:18.240 but i thought it was interesting um i'm going to run it for for more in a minute here uh because i think
00:15:25.620 the media coverage is just as big a story here as the story itself take a look a primary school in
00:15:33.880 birmingham has caved into pressure and temporarily pulled the plug on its lessons on lgbt rights that's
00:15:40.440 after hundreds of parents reportedly kept their children at home in protest rt's polly bojka gives
00:15:45.620 us the details well the cause of this row is a educational diversity program called no outsiders and
00:15:55.020 it aims to teach kids about the different types of families that they might encounter and talking to
00:16:00.920 them about things like the idea of having two mums or two dads and reading books to kids as young as four
00:16:08.500 about the concept of uh same-sex families the program was devised by the deputy head of the school at the center of this
00:16:17.840 row his name is andrew moffat and actually he's been uh nominated for the world's best teacher award
00:16:25.180 take a look at him talking about the program mummy lula hugged her and now they were sick on both of
00:16:31.880 them mummy nina got some tissues and wiped them both now our size is about teaching children that
00:16:39.300 you are different but you can still be friends with anybody there's a huge rise in hate crime in the last
00:16:45.200 year as schools we have to find ways to teach children to talk to counter that really but the
00:16:50.880 majority of the parents at this school are unhappy with andrew moffat's teaching methods um it's a
00:16:57.080 predominantly muslim school and parents fundamentally disagree with the idea of teaching kids about
00:17:03.740 homosexuality and lgbt issues um some of our viewers might know that islam in islam homosexuality
00:17:11.220 is forbidden so up until now the school had really held firm and said that they would continue this
00:17:17.820 what they see as a very necessary diversity program
00:17:21.700 just saying without comment that islam is anti-gay
00:17:27.240 because that's pretty much true and it's something that people normally don't like to talk about we
00:17:36.300 we see the six gender sex ed that kathleen wynn introduced in ontario we see gay straight alliance
00:17:42.940 laws that david eggin is introducing in alberta but that's not happening in muslim schools
00:17:49.500 and no one is suing or condemning them in fact the former premier of ontario kathleen wynn who
00:17:58.560 was an out of the closet lesbian activist frankly well look at that picture of her there
00:18:04.380 she's wearing a hijab and she's sitting at the back of a mosque all by herself submissive
00:18:15.180 pretty sure that's the polar opposite of how she is in any other setting
00:18:22.940 she's submitting there i mean she's gone now as premier but she was submitting
00:18:28.780 rachel notley is submissive too to the religion of peace here she is wearing a
00:18:37.100 hijab for some reason even though she wasn't in a mosque at least kathleen wynn had the excuse of
00:18:41.500 being in a mosque this is rachel not wearing a hijab at her office
00:18:47.420 well there's a good reason for this well i don't know maybe you'd call it a bad reason
00:18:51.900 let me show you a massive poll done of british muslims by the impeccable firm called icm it was
00:19:00.620 done for channel 4 an impeccably liberal british broadcaster and the story was led by trevor phillips
00:19:08.140 the black man who used to head up their human rights commission in the uk he himself actually
00:19:14.220 popularized the phrase islamophobia now i've done a larger video on this poll a couple years ago and
00:19:20.460 i recommend you dig it up this was a meticulous poll they actually sent people in to do person
00:19:27.820 face-to-face interviews in muslim areas of the uk sending muslims in to have heart-to-heart
00:19:34.860 conversations this wasn't just an online poll or a phone call poll frankly this was the most
00:19:40.380 comprehensive public opinion poll i have ever heard of in my life and the poll
00:19:46.540 the poll shows that the overwhelming number of british muslims want to criminalize homosexuality
00:19:55.500 52 percent want it criminalized 18 percent don't the question you could see homosexuality should be legal
00:20:05.020 in britain 18 percent um say it should be legal 52 percent say it should be illegal to be homosexual
00:20:14.860 when asked if gays should be allowed to be teachers 28 percent say yeah and 47 percent say no
00:20:27.180 huge sample size 1081 that's the united kingdom that's birmingham that's parents and kids standing
00:20:38.220 outside mr moffat's office laughing at him he'll be gone from that school soon enough sorry you can't have
00:20:44.860 a handful of white liberals running the place when 600 kids and their parents are outside screaming at you
00:20:54.220 or i don't know 140 000 as the case may be like i say it's a snapshot of our own place
00:21:03.740 of our own country about 10 minutes into the future myself i think sex ed goes too far as in
00:21:11.660 i think it starts too young i think it starts too young i don't think you need to sexualize
00:21:15.180 children of tender years in ontario the the extreme sex ed starts at the tender age of six
00:21:23.900 at least under kathleen wynn's sex ed program but that's not the debate i'm having here today
00:21:29.580 that's not my point here i think sex ed does go too far frankly there's probably a few things i
00:21:34.620 agree with these muslim moms about but my point is here leftists liberals gay rights activists social
00:21:44.140 justice warriors i don't think they mean any of it i just don't even at the guardian not at the guardian
00:21:54.460 not in the schools not anywhere not even the gay rights organizations not when it's
00:21:59.580 it's islam they're up against hey folks it's a simple choice a liberal society or open immigration
00:22:10.620 choose one you can't have both people stay with us for more
00:22:29.580 uh well uh time will tell but i have a feeling that
00:22:34.540 our relationship with north korea kim jong-un and myself chairman kim i think it's a very good one
00:22:41.180 i think it remains good i would be uh surprised in a negative way if he did anything that was
00:22:49.100 not per our understanding but we'll see what happens look when i came in
00:22:54.140 under the obama administration north korea was a disaster you were going to war folks whether you
00:23:00.700 know it or not you were going to where there was no talking there was testing we didn't have our people
00:23:06.300 back we didn't have our great hostages back now we're getting the remains we're doing a lot of things
00:23:11.740 now uh this was a disaster i inherited a mess in many ways i in the middle east i inherited a mess
00:23:19.660 and it's straightening out a lot we're doing very well there i inherited a mess i inherited wait wait
00:23:27.180 i inherited a mess with north korea and right now you have no testing you have no nothing let's see
00:23:33.340 what happens but i would be very disappointed if i saw testing there you have it president donald trump
00:23:40.380 doing a scrum at the white house before departing for alabama talking about his recent summit in
00:23:46.780 vietnam with kim jong-un the leader of north korea well what to make of it no deal was done trump
00:23:54.220 sounding a little bit defensive but pointing out some progress was made nonetheless well there's one
00:23:59.420 man i know who's an expert on this subject and his name is gordon chang he's the author of the book
00:24:05.100 nuclear showdown north korea takes on the world and the forthcoming monograph
00:24:09.420 called losing south korea that will be published by encounter books gordon great to see you again
00:24:14.220 thank you very much for joining us today thank you so much ezra well gordon i have a question for you
00:24:20.460 um was it wise for donald trump to walk away from a bad deal or would any deal have been preferable to
00:24:29.660 no deal oh i think it was a great thing that president trump walked away from hanoi what he was
00:24:35.900 saying to the north koreans was that they just couldn't serve up any slop and that we would
00:24:40.220 accept it which is what i think kim jong-un sort of felt that they felt that they had trump in a
00:24:45.420 corner that trump felt he had to make a deal and and our president said look i'm just not going to be
00:24:51.340 bullied but this is also important because it's a message to the chinese you know we've got these
00:24:56.620 trade negotiations i think the chinese were getting again a little bit too confident that they
00:25:02.620 could push the us around and right now in beijing i'm sure they're in a little bit of a panic because
00:25:08.540 they realize they need an agreement with america and they just might not get it now i've seen some
00:25:15.900 criticism from pundits that donald trump's rhetoric is very friendly towards kim jong-un now my instinct is
00:25:24.220 when you're my analogy is it's like a hostage negotiation with a hostage taker you say things
00:25:31.980 to flatter them to make to put them at ease because until they put down the gun you'll almost do
00:25:38.300 anything until they have that power away in this case the gun is nuclear weapons so my own instinct
00:25:45.420 is that when trump says chairman kim when he's deferential when he when he praises him that that's
00:25:51.740 probably not what trump truly feels but it's it's what you do when you're trying to negotiate with a
00:25:56.780 paranoid tyrant dictator and you don't want to push the button that's my own amateur instinct what's your
00:26:04.060 thoughts as a long-time observer um i'm a little bit concerned about the friendliness of the tone
00:26:12.220 and there's a reason here this is legitimization of the north korean regime this is something that kim
00:26:17.100 really wants and when trump actually talks about him in terms of chairman um what kim is it's music
00:26:24.220 to his ears now i can understand your point um you know and this is the way we have dealt with the north
00:26:30.060 koreans over the course of decades unfortunately it quite has not worked and i think you know trump
00:26:36.220 was extremely successful before june of last year when he had his maximum pressure campaign when he was
00:26:42.140 vigorously enforcing sanctions the north koreans were making all the concessions he was making none
00:26:47.100 of them that's the textbook definition of successful diplomacy since then when he said he's giving kim
00:26:53.100 this one-time shot to do the right thing trump has been generous and kim has not really been reciprocating
00:26:59.340 so i think what trump is doing is he's saying okay i'm going to give you this chance but i'm going to go
00:27:04.780 back to the more effective coercive tactics later if you don't come around and kim unfortunately right now
00:27:11.820 is not coming around now you mentioned china um i have a this sense and i i think you agree tell me
00:27:18.860 if you don't that that china in many ways controls north korea and of course um kim jong-un takes these
00:27:27.820 armored train visits to china to get his instructions it feels very very uh stalinist taking an armored train
00:27:36.140 maybe he's paranoid about being shot down in a plane or something um can can you you mentioned
00:27:41.820 china and they might be nervous can you try and tie this together for us how uh does this fit in with
00:27:49.500 trump's negotiations with china over trade is it is it is it both sides trying to use north korea as a
00:27:57.980 weapon against the other like a negotiation tactic help us figure it out a bit
00:28:01.980 yeah ezra your instincts are right china does control north korea although the chinese say that
00:28:08.380 they don't and of course the north koreans don't say that either but kim jong-un has made four straight
00:28:13.260 trips to chinese soil xi jinping the chinese ruler has made none to north korea that's a real indication
00:28:20.060 of a vassal relationship on the part of the north koreans so um i think that xi jinping is absolutely
00:28:26.940 trying to use north korea as a bargaining chip in trade talks with the us and that was i thought
00:28:33.340 pretty clear about maybe three weeks ago when chinese state media suggested that trump go to
00:28:39.340 chinese soil to meet xi jinping at hanan an island um immediately after trump was going to meet kim uh in
00:28:48.140 hanoi um now trump decided not to do that that's a very good move on the part of our president um but
00:28:55.020 the chinese are trying to um put the two together and i think what trump is trying to do um is sort
00:29:01.900 of avoid that and figure out how to deal with the chinese on a more effective basis now i don't want
00:29:08.380 you to give away the surprise i know it's coming out soon your new monograph losing south korea can
00:29:13.980 you give our viewers a little bit of a teaser of what you'll say there because of course we love south
00:29:19.180 korea um a free democratic economic success an ally um they obviously have deep familial ties ethnic
00:29:28.140 ties historic ties to the north what do you mean by losing south korea who's losing it and who are we
00:29:33.660 losing it to um we're losing it to north korea you know for most north americans you know you think that
00:29:41.500 how could a destitute north korea take over a larger prosperous stronger south korea but i think that
00:29:48.780 that's much more probable than the other way around and what's going on right now is moon jae in the
00:29:54.140 south korean president is deeply anti-american he's pro north korean he's undermining democracy in his
00:30:00.380 own society he tried to take the concept of freedom out of the south korean constitution he failed but
00:30:06.060 nonetheless he did take it out of the textbooks last year and right now he's taking control of
00:30:11.660 broadcasters he's jailing journalists he's muzzling north korean defectors in south korea he's taking down
00:30:17.820 defenses of south korea to a north korean attack he's whitewashing the north koreans you know if
00:30:24.460 he were a traitor in fact if he were trying to help north korea to take over south korea he would be
00:30:30.220 doing exactly what he's doing now now i can't speak to what he thinks deep inside only he knows that
00:30:37.260 but we've got to be very concerned that we could lose south korea as a free society because of the
00:30:42.380 subversion of its president most south koreans are not in favor of moon's policies on this regard
00:30:48.540 but nonetheless moon is the one who is sitting in the blue house so not them wow that is shocking i
00:30:55.260 am unaware of this i'm very glad to learn of it from you and i can hardly wait for your uh new
00:31:01.260 monograph to come out from encounter books when it is we'll hopefully be able to have you on to talk
00:31:05.900 about it and we'll send an email link to our people so they can get it hopefully it'll be on amazon
00:31:11.180 gordon you're very generous with your time you are my number one favorite expert on these matters
00:31:15.980 would you please permit me to ask you one question about an unrelated matter and that is the huawei case
00:31:24.220 where a very senior executive of huawei in fact the daughter of the founder was arrested in vancouver
00:31:31.020 and is in the process of an extradition fight to to go to the the states for various uh white collar
00:31:38.220 crimes uh that she's accused of this has created a crisis between china and canada a couple of
00:31:43.580 hostages three hostages i think still being held can you shine any light on this can you give us some
00:31:48.700 perspective uh give our viewers one thing that they might not know about how china might be using this
00:31:56.860 or seeing this battle well the communist party uses huawei which is employee owned as an instrumentality
00:32:04.940 to accomplish chinese purposes so for instance um you know right now the world is deciding whose
00:32:11.180 equipment to use on 5g huawei or american equipment and right and right now we got to remember that the
00:32:19.180 chinese donated the headquarters of the african union um and from 2012 to 2017 five-year period
00:32:28.540 every night the chinese were surreptitiously downloading information off the servers of
00:32:33.580 the african union headquarters in addos ababa and they were using huawei equipment to accomplish that
00:32:40.060 so while huawei says it would never spy on others at the behest of the communist party of china that's
00:32:46.940 exactly what it's doing and just one other small detail which has escaped people's attention but in
00:32:53.180 hong kong huawei smartphones because huawei is a big provider of smartphones around the world you can't
00:32:58.860 download twitter or content from mozilla firefox now if you're a smartphone provider and you want to sell
00:33:04.940 smartphones you would not do that but of course you would do that if you had to because the communist
00:33:11.420 party wants to censor um the conversations in hong kong so it is an instrumentality of the communist
00:33:17.500 party and you know people say look you know canada is in the middle of this fight no it's not um canada
00:33:23.820 is this big stake in making sure that the world stays free and so this is i think an existential struggle
00:33:30.620 when you look at 5g ai all of it huawei huawei is in the middle of the communist party's attempts to
00:33:38.620 dominate the world wow that's amazing i i knew about the african union headquarters i did not know
00:33:44.460 that you could literally not download various communications apps on the phones in hong kong
00:33:49.260 that is shocking to me gordon i learned so much from you i'm so grateful for your time i understand
00:33:53.740 you were a big hit at cpac this year we'll have to be there next year to catch you on the big stage
00:33:59.340 there thank you for all the work you do we learn so much and we're always grateful for your time
00:34:03.900 oh i'm so grateful to be on your air ezra so thank you well that's that's nice of you to say
00:34:09.580 you're welcome anytime my friend well there you have it gordon chang a very important author and
00:34:14.140 thinker in these matters and we'll be sure to try and get him back on when his monograph losing
00:34:19.020 south korea is published stay with us more ahead on the rebel
00:34:34.460 hey welcome back your letters to me paul writes this is far from over they won't be able to sell
00:34:40.220 the job spin to anyone but their most die-hard supporters paul's talking about the snc lavalan
00:34:46.300 excuse there's so many reasons why that jobs excuse doesn't work first of all um snc lavalan
00:34:53.820 is going to be on the hook for this prosecution whether they're based in montreal or based anywhere
00:35:00.460 else they're going to be on the hook whether or not those jobs i mean it's it's just irrelevant to
00:35:06.060 whether they're being prosecuted irrelevant to where they're located they just signed a huge new lease
00:35:11.900 i think a 20-year lease in montreal did huge renovations they're not going anywhere and i
00:35:17.580 mean there's there's about 10 little technical reasons why it's a bs excuse but of course the
00:35:22.540 biggest one is i don't actually think that uh justin trudeau and gerald butts deeply care about
00:35:29.260 jobs you can't say that after killing 100 billion dollars worth of shovel ready projects in the oil
00:35:36.380 patch you can't you can't have unemployment in calgary once again being the highest in the country
00:35:43.420 you can't have 200 000 people unemployed in oil and gas and say no no we did this for the jobs you
00:35:49.260 just don't have the right to say that don writes not enough attention is being paid to the fact that
00:35:55.340 katie telford said that she could arrange for several favorable op-ed pieces if jody wilson raybold
00:36:00.540 would change her mind well i think you're exactly right on that because of course to mention that
00:36:06.780 would be to acknowledge that the industry is in fact corrupted i think we've always known that the
00:36:13.180 cbc was corrupted they literally get paid by justin trudeau i think we've always sensed that the other
00:36:19.100 big broadcasters are corrupted too because although they may not all take money from the government they
00:36:24.140 are heavily regulated by the crtc not just ctv and the radio stations but of course if you're a company
00:36:32.300 that has a tv station and also a cell phone company you're doubly regulated so even if you don't get
00:36:39.260 cash directly from the government if you're a big tv or radio station you are hyper regulated by the
00:36:44.940 government so you do what they say and let's say you're just a newspaper that has no connection to
00:36:52.780 government regulation well that's where the bailout comes in the 595 million dollar bailout so yeah
00:36:59.340 i think the reason why we don't have more investigation as to who those katie telford
00:37:03.500 journalists is is because well because it's all of them on listening to the podcast version of the
00:37:10.300 show robert writes i'm a premium member and like the podcast more than the tv version because i can listen
00:37:16.380 from my phone during my daily walks or driving robert that is a great idea and i guess i am i
00:37:23.660 haven't done that myself i'm not a big podcast guy and so i keep thinking well gee whiz why don't people
00:37:28.860 watch the video side of it too well obviously if you're driving most people don't watch a video while
00:37:34.940 driving i won't say all people because i happen to know someone who does and um of course when you're
00:37:40.300 like on the bus or something generally it's just easier to listen or like you say walking i i suppose
00:37:46.220 those are some things i never do like going to the gym or whatever on janice atkinson working for the
00:37:51.980 rebel joan writes what great videos coming in from europe janice really sheds a pure unfiltered light
00:37:58.060 on the migrant situation i was born in the uk and used to love to return for visits not anymore
00:38:02.380 it's not the same place great job janice janice is doing a good job and if you don't know what i'm
00:38:08.780 talking about you should go to rebelfrance.com janice spent a few days in calais which is
00:38:15.340 the jumping off point for a lot of these migrants to get into the uk and wistram which is another
00:38:21.020 place she was even on the beaches of normandy you know the very beaches that's juno beach
00:38:26.060 sword you know where the allies on d-day canada had the juno beach of course the where we liberated
00:38:32.060 europe those same patches of beach are where the reverse invasion is coming from that's where
00:38:38.140 the migrants hop on the dinghies to cross the english channel to the uk isn't that interesting
00:38:44.060 if you don't know what i'm talking about go to rebelfrance.com and you can see janice doing it
00:38:49.820 well folks that's the show for today and for the week until monday on behalf of all of us here at
00:38:56.060 rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom