Rebel News Podcast - January 29, 2019


Canada’s international relations have never been this chaotic. Did anybody do a background check on Chrystia Freeland before she was given the job？


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

164.90454

Word Count

6,452

Sentence Count

308

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

Did anybody bother to do a background check on Chrystia Freeland before she was given the job as Canada's new foreign affairs minister? And why is it that Canada's international relations have never been this chaotic in recent memory?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Canada's international relations have never been this chaotic.
00:00:04.200 Did anybody bother to do a background check on Chrystia Freeland before she was given the job?
00:00:09.620 It's January 28th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:14.420 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:18.220 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:22.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:30.000 It really is the worst time in history for Canada's international relations.
00:00:38.260 I know that sounds crazy to say but even during the Cold War when we were at odds with the Soviet bloc
00:00:43.340 and the two world wars when we were at odds with various national alliances.
00:00:49.240 We even fought against them militarily but we were respected by friends and respected by enemies too
00:00:54.580 and we were reliable as both weren't we?
00:00:57.540 And Justin Trudeau, well he promised he would bring back such diplomatic panache to our foreign affairs
00:01:05.300 and all the permanent career diplomats seem to agree with him.
00:01:09.660 So that's the contrast here of how bad things are to what he said would happen.
00:01:13.940 I mean remember when the non-partisan civil servants in the Pearson building, that's the foreign affairs headquarters,
00:01:21.200 remember they literally cheered Justin Trudeau upon his arrival at their office.
00:01:26.520 Mr. Trudeau, Mr. Trudeau, Mr. Trudeau, can you talk about the phone call?
00:01:41.980 Yeah, that's your non-partisan, absolutely professional civil service folks.
00:01:46.760 Well, look, it wasn't that Harper was reckless or unprofessional.
00:01:52.540 The cheering for Trudeau there wasn't because finally a smooth operator was in charge.
00:01:56.740 It was that they disagreed with Harper on substantive policy.
00:02:01.140 They disagreed with his position on Israel.
00:02:03.860 He was more supportive of Israel than the bureaucrats.
00:02:06.840 They disagreed with him on Palestine.
00:02:08.860 He called out Islamic terrorists.
00:02:10.680 On China, Harper was wary of them on everything from human rights to spying, to buying up our strategic assets.
00:02:17.160 To the UN, Harper believed in national sovereignty, non-global schemes run by foreigners.
00:02:21.240 The fancy people, the official people, the folks cheering for Trudeau there,
00:02:25.240 they mocked Harper and blamed him when Canada was not elected to the UN Security Council in 2010.
00:02:31.260 It's obvious why he wasn't and why Canada wasn't.
00:02:34.280 That Security Council election is where every country at the UN gets one vote
00:02:39.280 who gets to be a temporary member of the Security Council along with the five permanent members.
00:02:44.880 And Harper, because he was pro-American, pro-Israel, pro-NATO, etc.,
00:02:48.880 he obviously lost the votes of all the third world dictatorships, obviously.
00:02:52.560 And that's a good thing.
00:02:55.260 Justin Trudeau has been campaigning furiously to get the votes of those third world countries to win that seat in 2021.
00:03:01.960 That's why he's dumping foreign aid on every tyrant in the world.
00:03:05.740 That's why he's sending our military men and women to places like Mali,
00:03:09.580 for which there is no Canadian national interest.
00:03:11.660 It's so weird.
00:03:12.400 It's such a fake achievement being on the Security Council.
00:03:15.700 It's a bragging right unmoored from what matters.
00:03:18.540 It's just for show, which is exactly why Trudeau likes it.
00:03:21.920 But my point is, look, the fancy people who love jetting to Davos and other fancy get-togethers,
00:03:26.840 is they think Harper was a failure in foreign affairs,
00:03:31.940 and they promised that Trudeau would do better in foreign affairs.
00:03:36.320 But three and a half years into Trudeau's term,
00:03:38.720 is there a single thing that Trudeau hasn't made worse?
00:03:42.380 And I say this because I was jolted with the most shocking headline,
00:03:46.200 the most shocking report I've seen from a foreign country talking about Canada.
00:03:49.780 Something that was never said about Harper by anyone,
00:03:53.680 even Vladimir Putin, who Harper famously challenged at his G20 meeting once,
00:03:58.340 or even by the PLO, who Harper famously challenged.
00:04:01.560 I mean, recall that even Barack Obama,
00:04:03.380 although he and Harper were at odds over so many matters,
00:04:07.700 Obama still respected Harper enough that he would not actually kill
00:04:10.660 the Keystone XL pipeline during Harper's term.
00:04:13.660 Maybe he was worried what Harper would do in reaction,
00:04:16.500 or maybe he actually valued Harper's relationship and help enough.
00:04:20.900 But one of the first things Obama did after Trudeau was elected
00:04:23.040 was to give us that bad news that he was ripping up the Keystone XL pipeline.
00:04:26.420 I think that's a sign that people around the world know
00:04:29.280 that Trudeau can be pushed around,
00:04:30.440 that he's just the guy with fancy socks and takes selfies.
00:04:33.720 There's not a lot of there there.
00:04:35.800 He doesn't read his briefing notes, obviously.
00:04:37.600 He's more a mascot than a leader.
00:04:40.140 Now, I say all this because of the mockery that Harper faced
00:04:42.700 for his foreign affairs,
00:04:43.900 when arguably it was very successful.
00:04:46.240 Now, compare that to these days.
00:04:49.300 So let me read to you this line from this Chinese propaganda magazine
00:04:52.220 that I read today.
00:04:53.300 It's called Global Times, like all media in China.
00:04:55.780 It's controlled by the Communist Party.
00:04:57.540 Global Times has been their megaphone
00:04:58.940 during this whole spat between China and Canada
00:05:01.380 about Meng Wanzhou, you know, the CFO of that Chinese company
00:05:04.740 called Huawei, who was arrested in Vancouver
00:05:08.660 and is trying to extradite it to the States.
00:05:10.980 Global Times is where the Communist Party of China
00:05:14.580 speaks a bit more frankly than it does to its foreign affairs diplomats.
00:05:19.200 So look at the headline.
00:05:21.160 Resignation reveals political interference.
00:05:23.200 And let me read a couple sentences, just a couple.
00:05:25.920 As the Chinese folk saying goes,
00:05:27.460 you cannot live the life of a whore
00:05:28.960 and expect a monument to your chastity.
00:05:31.260 Canada is a country worthy of respect,
00:05:32.800 but some Canadians must be reminded
00:05:34.520 that they are now refusing to face up to the moral predicament.
00:05:37.040 They are against moral righteousness
00:05:39.140 while deceiving themselves to believe
00:05:40.760 they can be honoured as moral models.
00:05:45.280 Meng's case seems to be protracted.
00:05:48.080 If Canada insists on wrong practice,
00:05:50.460 it must pay for it.
00:05:52.060 Okay.
00:05:53.540 And they're arresting Canadians
00:05:54.880 and threatening to execute one.
00:05:56.840 Now, obviously, I do not support China's government.
00:05:59.580 They are a dictatorship.
00:06:00.720 They have illegally seized Canadian hostages.
00:06:02.880 They do not believe in the rule of law
00:06:04.140 for Chinese people, let alone for foreigners.
00:06:05.660 I believe that Huawei is a security threat.
00:06:08.000 I believe China is by far the largest
00:06:09.820 non-terrorist threat to Canada.
00:06:12.520 That is, they're a military threat
00:06:13.980 and an espionage threat, especially industrial espionage.
00:06:16.940 But I will acknowledge the obvious.
00:06:18.360 Canada's relationship with China
00:06:19.500 is the worst it's ever been.
00:06:21.020 And I don't mean that we are the most hostile to China
00:06:23.160 we've ever been.
00:06:23.700 The opposite.
00:06:24.200 We suck up to China much more
00:06:26.000 than we did under Stephen Harper.
00:06:27.440 We ignore security and human rights concerns
00:06:30.000 much more than we did under Harper.
00:06:31.460 Harper was tougher on them,
00:06:32.540 but the relationship was better.
00:06:33.600 So I'm not equating disagreements
00:06:35.120 with diplomatic chaos and rage.
00:06:38.200 I mean, no one is tougher on China than Donald Trump,
00:06:40.940 but they literally rolled out the red carpet
00:06:43.260 and treated him like a king when he went to Beijing.
00:06:46.700 Remember this video we showed before?
00:06:48.800 They call him Donald the Strong
00:06:51.200 or Uncle Donald, according to the New York Times.
00:06:54.060 That's what they call him.
00:06:55.420 I don't need to remind you
00:06:56.700 what they said about our guy, Trudeau.
00:06:59.140 And this was before we got into this latest fight.
00:07:03.160 Remember this?
00:07:04.140 We're quite proud.
00:07:05.580 The prime minister has been given a fond nickname in China.
00:07:10.140 He is called Pudou,
00:07:12.400 which I believe means potato.
00:07:15.000 And he is, I can't say the Chinese word,
00:07:16.660 it's young, Pudou, little potato,
00:07:19.740 because his father, Pierre Elliott,
00:07:22.200 Pudou, was senior potato.
00:07:24.800 So we feel we are off to a great start.
00:07:29.700 How could Chrystia Freeland not have known
00:07:32.280 that was an insult?
00:07:34.060 How could she think that was wonderful?
00:07:37.800 Well, remember who Chrystia Freeland is.
00:07:39.440 She's the cabinet minister who,
00:07:41.280 in a tough trade negotiation with Belgium,
00:07:44.760 broke down into tears on camera.
00:07:48.640 Belgium made her cry.
00:07:51.020 Belgium, that's like the nerdy kid in school
00:07:55.620 that the bullies always used to steal his lunch money.
00:07:59.900 That nerdy kid, Belgium,
00:08:02.920 made our cabinet minister cry.
00:08:07.020 Canada has worked really hard.
00:08:09.020 And I personally, I've worked very hard.
00:08:10.980 But it seems evident for me, for Canada,
00:08:20.960 that the European Union is not able,
00:08:23.880 now, to have an international agreement,
00:08:29.580 even with a country that has such European values
00:08:35.940 like Canada.
00:08:37.080 Hey, can I ask you a question?
00:08:42.640 I mean, I'm sorry to ask it,
00:08:43.840 but no one else will, so let me.
00:08:45.980 How on earth does such a disaster retain her job,
00:08:48.960 let alone be voted best diplomat in the world
00:08:52.020 by some think tank in Washington?
00:08:54.660 How?
00:08:55.220 How, how, how?
00:08:56.400 Well, it's the same way that Barack Obama
00:08:58.320 was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
00:09:00.920 weeks after his election.
00:09:04.960 So it wasn't for anything he did.
00:09:07.080 It's what he stood for.
00:09:09.420 They were a bit disappointed in Barack Obama,
00:09:12.940 the Nobel Prize secretary.
00:09:15.200 I mean, he started a whole bunch of wars.
00:09:17.380 He lit the Arab world on fire.
00:09:20.120 But they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize
00:09:22.220 for having the right feelings.
00:09:24.680 And that's why Freeland won those plaudits.
00:09:27.280 She hates Donald Trump.
00:09:28.300 That's all the foreign policy establishment cares about.
00:09:30.580 She literally attended a panel discussion in Toronto
00:09:33.220 that called Trump a tyrant.
00:09:35.120 It was really an anti-Trump rally.
00:09:37.580 And she did this right in the middle of the NAFTA renegotiations.
00:09:40.760 And remember, she showed up in Washington
00:09:42.280 with this weird homemade t-shirt with messages
00:09:45.400 about the negotiations.
00:09:47.320 While those negotiations were ongoing,
00:09:49.840 why isn't anyone saying,
00:09:51.040 we're going to stop this woman from wrecking things?
00:09:53.340 Where are the grown-ups here?
00:09:54.520 I mean, whoever had the ability to fire John McCallum,
00:09:57.640 I don't know who that was,
00:09:59.120 can that person please relieve Freeland of her position too?
00:10:03.640 Obviously, Trudeau won't fire himself,
00:10:05.780 but can we please put Chrystia Freeland
00:10:07.740 into a job more suited to her talents,
00:10:10.620 whatever those undiscovered talents may be?
00:10:14.320 Chrystia Freeland's job before becoming an MP
00:10:16.700 he was as a star journalist.
00:10:18.880 Everyone says that about her,
00:10:20.280 just like they call her a star diplomat.
00:10:22.740 I want to tell you about the last thing she touched
00:10:24.960 as a journalist.
00:10:27.100 This was reported at the time,
00:10:28.400 but it wasn't emphasized.
00:10:29.340 See, Chrystia Freeland lived outside of Canada
00:10:31.520 for many years.
00:10:32.840 She lived in New York with her family.
00:10:34.300 She worked in New York with her family.
00:10:35.980 That's where she lived.
00:10:36.840 She came back to Toronto at the last moment,
00:10:38.680 like Michael Ignatieff did,
00:10:39.720 to rule over us.
00:10:42.080 She didn't live here.
00:10:43.380 She didn't even have a home here.
00:10:45.280 She worked for Thomson Reuters,
00:10:46.540 one of the biggest news companies in the world,
00:10:48.360 and they were starting a new venture
00:10:49.980 called Reuters Next,
00:10:52.880 which sounds amazing!
00:10:56.020 And that's really what Chrystia Freeland is good at,
00:10:57.980 dropping lots of buzzwords,
00:10:59.800 jargon,
00:11:01.760 phrases that sound good at a TED Talk or something,
00:11:04.460 but afterwards you say,
00:11:05.520 what did she say again?
00:11:06.700 Is there anything of substance?
00:11:07.960 She still does the pundits circuit
00:11:10.540 and the speaking circuit for some weird reason.
00:11:12.640 The other day,
00:11:13.440 I think I mentioned this,
00:11:14.300 when Venezuela was undergoing a street revolution,
00:11:16.480 the best day in Venezuela in a generation,
00:11:19.360 she was unable to make a statement about it for hours
00:11:21.720 because she was busy,
00:11:23.180 as her own Twitter feed showed,
00:11:25.560 doing a pundits panel at a speaking gig
00:11:27.940 at the Davos Forum in Switzerland.
00:11:31.560 Why?
00:11:33.280 I mean, I know she would do that
00:11:34.920 when she was a journalist
00:11:36.080 before she became a foreign minister,
00:11:37.520 but isn't a foreign minister's job
00:11:39.560 to do things about foreign affairs,
00:11:42.180 you know, do diplomacy,
00:11:43.300 not just talk about others who do them
00:11:45.340 like a pundit does?
00:11:47.520 The fact that really no one in the world cared
00:11:50.200 that Chrystia Freeland was on a pundits panel
00:11:52.780 instead of dealing with the miraculous crisis
00:11:55.340 on the streets of Venezuela
00:11:56.980 shows that no one in the world
00:11:59.300 who makes actual decisions
00:12:01.460 waited to hear what Freeland has to say.
00:12:04.120 Why would they care what she said?
00:12:06.540 But back to her journalism at Reuters Next.
00:12:09.320 It was a big deal.
00:12:10.660 Reuters burnt $20 million on it.
00:12:14.520 They put 150 staff on it.
00:12:16.560 It's a major project,
00:12:17.640 not as major as running a government department,
00:12:20.280 but a good test of,
00:12:21.580 does she have the ability to do things?
00:12:23.520 So how did it all work out?
00:12:24.600 I mean, isn't it a good predictor
00:12:26.400 as to whether she could get anything done,
00:12:28.720 whether she could work with others,
00:12:30.140 manage others, manage herself?
00:12:32.820 How is she in her one big job,
00:12:34.880 the one big opportunity to do things?
00:12:38.280 Can she do things or just chatter?
00:12:42.340 Well, let's look back.
00:12:43.480 Here's a story from just over five years ago.
00:12:46.900 It's from Politico.
00:12:48.040 What really happened to Reuters Next?
00:12:50.640 Let me read a bit.
00:12:51.460 On Wednesday, Thomson Reuters' new CEO,
00:12:54.840 Andrew Rashbass,
00:12:56.620 announced the company was canceling
00:12:57.880 the ambitious new digital news project,
00:13:00.020 Reuters Next.
00:13:01.560 Oh, really?
00:13:02.600 Yeah.
00:13:03.500 Now, this was a very sympathetic story
00:13:05.420 written in defense of Freeland.
00:13:08.060 Let me quote what Reuters Next was supposed to be.
00:13:12.100 Reuters wanted to take its massive pool
00:13:14.040 of resources and journalists from across the world
00:13:16.080 and turn their wire services
00:13:17.540 into a digital product
00:13:19.560 with seamless multimedia integration,
00:13:23.360 a stream of information.
00:13:26.520 People familiar with the project had high hopes,
00:13:28.680 and initial media reports gave it rave reviews.
00:13:31.500 It wasn't just a redesign.
00:13:33.040 They said it was supposed to
00:13:34.060 totally change Reuters' digital product
00:13:36.440 and make it the number one news organization
00:13:38.380 in the world.
00:13:38.760 It sounds like how Christia Freeland talks, actually.
00:13:43.660 In fact, I bet she was the anonymous source
00:13:45.420 in this story, praising herself.
00:13:48.080 But my point is how jargony
00:13:49.840 and buzzwordy that was.
00:13:52.440 What does any of it actually mean in real life?
00:13:54.600 High hopes, rave reviews,
00:13:56.400 seamless multimedia integration,
00:13:58.680 a stream of information.
00:14:00.300 What does that mean?
00:14:01.240 I work in the media,
00:14:02.000 but I don't even know what that means.
00:14:03.020 If someone were to say
00:14:03.740 they were going to do that for me,
00:14:05.080 I'd say, okay, can you tell me
00:14:05.840 what you're going to actually do?
00:14:08.340 Would you spend $20 million
00:14:10.380 on someone who just kept saying
00:14:12.160 cool phrases like that over and over again
00:14:14.480 and say the word tipping point?
00:14:15.680 We're at a tipping point.
00:14:16.440 We're at a tipping point.
00:14:17.180 That's her favorite phrase.
00:14:18.760 That story sounds exactly like
00:14:21.340 any Christia Freeland foreign policy speech.
00:14:24.260 Just word salad.
00:14:25.980 Random combinations of things
00:14:27.480 that sound really futuristic and with it.
00:14:31.400 Seamless integration, multilateral.
00:14:33.660 Like just, do you ever say anything?
00:14:36.840 I'll never get tired of this image
00:14:38.420 of Christia Freeland
00:14:39.180 and her NAFTA renegotiation team.
00:14:41.800 Oh, what a laugh.
00:14:43.000 Look at them.
00:14:44.240 Oh, it's gorgeous.
00:14:46.080 The thing about foreign affairs
00:14:47.060 is that, I hate to say it to you,
00:14:49.040 it's an old person's game.
00:14:50.720 And what I really mean
00:14:51.380 is an old man's game.
00:14:52.240 I'm sorry that's whose game it is.
00:14:53.480 Because you have to know
00:14:54.660 details, history, culture, events, incidents.
00:14:58.480 You need a corporate memory.
00:14:59.680 You need to have been around
00:15:00.680 in the last war,
00:15:02.080 in the war before that.
00:15:02.800 You need to know
00:15:03.440 how things were
00:15:04.200 in the last administration.
00:15:05.600 And what were things
00:15:06.600 like under Nixon?
00:15:07.480 And what did Pierre Trudeau try?
00:15:08.960 What was tried
00:15:09.520 and what didn't work?
00:15:10.140 You need to be old.
00:15:11.720 You need to be old.
00:15:14.660 Having some super hip kids
00:15:16.140 who are up to date
00:15:16.920 with the latest Twitter
00:15:17.800 or Instagram
00:15:18.620 or TikTok
00:15:19.620 really doesn't help you
00:15:21.320 negotiate with China
00:15:22.480 or with Trump's trade negotiator,
00:15:24.300 does it?
00:15:25.460 That team of millennials
00:15:26.720 looks exactly like,
00:15:28.580 I imagine,
00:15:29.480 Freeland's team at Reuters next
00:15:30.980 would have looked.
00:15:32.160 At least in Reuters,
00:15:33.000 they only burnt through
00:15:33.760 $20 million of private money.
00:15:35.860 They didn't cause Canadians
00:15:36.840 to be kidnapped
00:15:37.560 by the Chinese dictators,
00:15:39.120 for example.
00:15:40.020 Here's how Reuters,
00:15:40.980 sorry,
00:15:41.280 here's how Forbes
00:15:42.000 covered the shutdown
00:15:43.080 of Christian Freeland's project.
00:15:45.240 Reuters next.
00:15:46.180 Anatomy of a multi-million dollar misfire.
00:15:48.980 Let me read the opening lines.
00:15:50.380 And you tell me
00:15:51.000 if this couldn't be said
00:15:51.960 word for word
00:15:52.820 about Freeland's track record
00:15:54.100 as foreign minister.
00:15:56.380 What kind of company
00:15:57.460 spends millions of dollars
00:15:58.520 developing a product
00:15:59.380 it's not sure it wants
00:16:00.640 or needs?
00:16:01.760 Thomson Reuters,
00:16:02.660 apparently.
00:16:04.460 The backstory behind
00:16:05.460 its decision to scrap
00:16:06.500 two years of development work
00:16:07.700 on a new version
00:16:08.560 of its consumer-facing website
00:16:10.760 is a classic one
00:16:12.120 of corporate dysfunction,
00:16:14.380 neglect,
00:16:15.040 and diffusion
00:16:15.880 of responsibility,
00:16:17.020 according to several insiders
00:16:18.120 who were close
00:16:18.640 to the project.
00:16:19.900 Here's how the CBC
00:16:20.860 reported it.
00:16:22.400 They said,
00:16:23.900 Liberal hopeful
00:16:24.420 Christian Freeland
00:16:25.120 oversaw loss
00:16:25.980 of media jobs,
00:16:27.540 campaigning on platform
00:16:28.440 of restoring middle class.
00:16:29.380 Freeland oversaw
00:16:29.980 a decision to move
00:16:30.660 jobs to India.
00:16:32.040 That's a little more interesting,
00:16:33.560 but as usual,
00:16:34.400 journalists are obsessed
00:16:35.300 with journalists.
00:16:36.820 But, you know,
00:16:37.320 this is interesting.
00:16:38.280 The December 2011 move
00:16:39.580 put about 25 Toronto staff
00:16:41.180 under Freeland's supervision
00:16:42.160 out of work,
00:16:43.100 including 17 permanent
00:16:44.320 and five temporary
00:16:45.320 unionized employees.
00:16:46.860 Now, I don't care that much.
00:16:48.980 I don't care as much
00:16:50.380 about that as the CBC does
00:16:51.560 because they just love journalists.
00:16:52.660 But it does go
00:16:53.980 to the globalism
00:16:54.860 of Freeland and Trudeau
00:16:56.540 outsourcing jobs
00:16:57.420 to foreign countries.
00:16:58.440 Importing cheap domestic,
00:17:00.300 cheap foreign labor
00:17:01.180 at home.
00:17:03.500 But let me tell you
00:17:05.020 what BuzzFeed report,
00:17:06.680 I showed you Forbes,
00:17:07.620 I showed you Politico,
00:17:11.420 because although BuzzFeed
00:17:12.480 is partisan and leftist
00:17:13.700 and has anti-Trump
00:17:14.660 derangement syndrome,
00:17:15.840 and I'm skeptical of them,
00:17:16.860 this report on Freeland
00:17:18.180 has been unchallenged by her.
00:17:21.660 How Chrystia Freeland
00:17:22.940 hastened Reuters'
00:17:24.440 next demise.
00:17:26.720 There's a lot of
00:17:27.180 interesting things here.
00:17:27.880 I'm going to read it to you.
00:17:28.700 Ready?
00:17:29.680 The dynamo who left Reuters
00:17:30.960 to run for a seat
00:17:31.660 in Canada's parliament
00:17:32.320 was both the motivating force
00:17:33.600 behind the wire service's
00:17:34.840 ambitious digital revamp
00:17:36.360 and one of the primary reasons
00:17:38.540 it was killed,
00:17:39.840 current and former employees
00:17:40.840 tell BuzzFeed.
00:17:42.000 Oh, is there anything
00:17:43.720 we might learn,
00:17:44.880 we might glean from this,
00:17:47.020 about how she operates
00:17:48.340 as foreign minister?
00:17:50.580 It is exactly the same thing.
00:17:52.760 Let me read it.
00:17:53.260 Freeland basically tried
00:17:54.420 to build this thing
00:17:55.320 outside of the entire operation,
00:17:57.160 says a former Reuters employee.
00:17:58.980 She had very little contact
00:18:00.120 with the newsroom itself.
00:18:02.380 So Freeland started as a journalist
00:18:04.000 and then she just hired
00:18:05.180 all her friends.
00:18:06.220 Let me quote.
00:18:07.160 She quickly set about
00:18:08.060 remaking it in her own image.
00:18:09.860 She promoted Jim Ledbetter,
00:18:11.420 then editor of Reuters.com,
00:18:12.580 to edit the section,
00:18:13.520 appointed longtime Reuters veteran
00:18:14.920 Ken Lee to replace Ledbetter,
00:18:16.500 and brought on Ryan McCarthy
00:18:17.880 from the Huffington Post
00:18:18.700 to be her deputy.
00:18:19.580 For her deputy,
00:18:20.680 she hired Jim Impoco,
00:18:21.960 who had edited
00:18:22.620 the New York Times
00:18:23.240 Sunday business section
00:18:24.140 and was an enterprise reporter
00:18:25.640 at Reuters.
00:18:26.580 Freeland next went on
00:18:27.340 a hiring spree,
00:18:28.920 bringing in big names
00:18:29.760 with big contracts
00:18:30.840 to write for this section,
00:18:32.000 such as former
00:18:32.500 New York Times reporters
00:18:33.400 David Cray Johnston,
00:18:36.420 Larry Summers,
00:18:37.160 and slight media critic
00:18:38.020 Jack Schaefer.
00:18:38.820 Okay, now I know
00:18:39.400 this sounds like
00:18:40.060 a lot of gossip,
00:18:42.060 but how you operate
00:18:43.680 in an organization,
00:18:44.620 how you listen to others,
00:18:45.740 how you learn
00:18:46.480 from other people
00:18:47.060 who might know more
00:18:47.720 than you,
00:18:48.160 how you hire and fire,
00:18:49.260 I think it's relevant
00:18:50.060 to anything,
00:18:52.320 including how to run
00:18:53.060 a department.
00:18:53.480 Let me quote some more.
00:18:54.600 After Freeland committed
00:18:55.940 to Reuters next,
00:18:57.040 she set about clearing out
00:18:58.340 many existing
00:18:59.180 Thompson Reuters employees
00:19:00.200 to make room
00:19:00.760 for her own people.
00:19:02.000 Between Reuters.com employees
00:19:03.360 and people brought on
00:19:04.460 to Reuters next,
00:19:05.280 around 60 people
00:19:06.280 were working under Freeland,
00:19:07.520 and that's not including
00:19:08.200 the consultants she hired.
00:19:11.440 People who actually run things,
00:19:14.000 I'm not talking about
00:19:14.540 journalists now,
00:19:15.280 I'm talking about managers,
00:19:16.280 businessmen,
00:19:16.680 people who know
00:19:17.700 how to do things,
00:19:19.200 they were all shot out
00:19:20.580 because she knew better.
00:19:22.940 Here, let me read this.
00:19:25.380 Activate,
00:19:26.480 the media consulting firm
00:19:28.060 run by former McKinsey
00:19:29.220 and MTV executive
00:19:30.600 Michael Wolff,
00:19:31.600 was hired to work
00:19:32.780 on Reuters next in 2011
00:19:34.020 and started working
00:19:35.020 with vendors in January
00:19:36.020 when the Reuters next
00:19:37.160 onto the eighth floor
00:19:39.940 of the lavish
00:19:40.760 Thompson Reuters headquarters
00:19:42.040 in Times Square
00:19:43.020 and October 2012
00:19:44.420 launch date
00:19:44.960 for Reuters next
00:19:45.580 was sent.
00:19:46.720 The project decided
00:19:47.600 against using
00:19:48.200 any internal resources.
00:19:50.200 The belief was
00:19:50.800 that they were mired
00:19:51.540 in bureaucracy
00:19:52.060 and they were not
00:19:52.980 the team to build
00:19:53.520 a new vision for editorial.
00:19:55.700 The current Reuters employee
00:19:56.940 said,
00:19:58.660 you know,
00:19:58.900 I think that's exactly
00:19:59.900 what Freeland
00:20:01.400 and Trudeau did
00:20:02.320 at Foreign Affairs.
00:20:03.300 You saw how happy
00:20:04.160 they were to meet Trudeau.
00:20:06.320 I think that Freeland
00:20:07.400 and Trudeau
00:20:08.460 and Gerald Butts
00:20:09.100 think that they're so smart
00:20:10.980 they don't need to ask
00:20:12.200 lifelong career diplomats
00:20:13.260 who do things.
00:20:14.100 Instead,
00:20:14.680 they have their own circles
00:20:16.780 and I'll show you
00:20:17.280 this website in a second.
00:20:18.620 I mean,
00:20:19.040 how do you negotiate
00:20:19.840 trade deals,
00:20:21.020 for example?
00:20:22.820 Maybe you talk to the experts
00:20:23.880 who have done it before.
00:20:24.500 I mean, Freeland herself
00:20:25.160 was the lead negotiator.
00:20:27.200 We had a grown woman
00:20:28.060 who had to have her dad
00:20:29.440 co-sign her mortgage
00:20:30.320 when she moved back
00:20:31.420 to Toronto from New York.
00:20:32.720 I'm not making fun of that.
00:20:33.920 A lot of people
00:20:34.340 can't afford a mortgage
00:20:35.120 on their own
00:20:35.520 but maybe she's not exactly
00:20:36.980 the absolutely best person
00:20:37.960 in the country
00:20:38.340 to negotiate
00:20:38.800 the most important trade deal
00:20:39.820 in our country
00:20:40.680 with her dream team
00:20:41.700 of hip kids.
00:20:42.600 Now,
00:20:43.000 at Reuters,
00:20:43.660 all they burned up
00:20:44.360 was money
00:20:44.900 and I don't care
00:20:45.740 because I don't care
00:20:46.420 about Reuters
00:20:46.780 but imagine this woman
00:20:47.960 working with tax dollars.
00:20:49.180 Let me quote a bit
00:20:49.780 but throw that website
00:20:50.760 back up for a second.
00:20:52.060 The last one there.
00:20:53.900 Canada 2020
00:20:54.660 was the in
00:20:55.660 this one here.
00:20:57.040 This is the private
00:20:58.020 think tank
00:20:58.640 of Trudeau
00:20:59.540 and Gerald Butts.
00:21:00.260 It's called
00:21:00.500 Canada 2020
00:21:01.240 and it's
00:21:02.060 they even boast
00:21:03.300 it's where all
00:21:04.280 the real policy
00:21:05.340 in Canada
00:21:05.880 are made.
00:21:06.680 I put it to you
00:21:07.540 that Christia Freeland
00:21:08.420 and Justin Trudeau
00:21:09.740 and Gerald Butts
00:21:10.480 have their own friends
00:21:12.180 and pals
00:21:13.200 and experts
00:21:14.240 making the decisions
00:21:15.720 and all those happy
00:21:16.480 clappers
00:21:17.000 at foreign affairs
00:21:17.880 were shut out
00:21:18.820 and they are saying
00:21:19.780 what are you doing?
00:21:21.440 That's my theory.
00:21:22.620 Okay,
00:21:22.740 let me quote a little bit
00:21:23.360 more from BuzzFeed.
00:21:24.040 Ready?
00:21:25.920 Costs steadily rose
00:21:27.640 with new hires
00:21:28.940 and payments
00:21:29.440 to vendors
00:21:29.880 and consultants
00:21:30.600 as the project
00:21:31.720 dragged on
00:21:32.420 and the launch date
00:21:33.240 was continually postponed.
00:21:35.080 While earlier articles
00:21:36.140 estimated the cost
00:21:36.980 at around $5 million
00:21:37.960 sources close
00:21:39.160 to the project
00:21:39.600 said that actual figure
00:21:40.640 was three to four times
00:21:42.040 that amount
00:21:42.560 or between 15
00:21:43.460 and 20 million dollars.
00:21:44.840 Moreover,
00:21:45.160 the first former
00:21:45.740 Reuters employee
00:21:46.460 said that Activate
00:21:47.660 itself was paid
00:21:48.460 $300,000 a month.
00:21:51.500 Okay,
00:21:52.400 now here,
00:21:52.980 read all this
00:21:53.700 and instead of managers
00:21:54.840 replace it with
00:21:55.980 people who actually
00:21:57.120 know something
00:21:57.600 about China,
00:21:58.160 India,
00:21:58.460 Saudi Arabia,
00:21:59.680 trade negotiations
00:22:00.340 with Trump
00:22:00.820 or anyone else.
00:22:01.820 Ready?
00:22:02.060 Listen to this.
00:22:03.880 Further,
00:22:04.560 of the new employees
00:22:05.260 brought in
00:22:05.760 on the editorial
00:22:06.660 and technical side,
00:22:07.860 none had been
00:22:08.480 at Reuters long enough
00:22:09.600 to know what the experience
00:22:10.700 of being a Reuters journalist
00:22:11.580 was like.
00:22:12.560 They had all quit
00:22:13.180 or gotten fired
00:22:14.020 so it's said.
00:22:15.100 Okay,
00:22:15.300 now I've read too much
00:22:16.080 but let me just
00:22:16.660 close with this.
00:22:18.840 When the preview
00:22:19.840 and beta
00:22:20.540 of Reuters next
00:22:21.440 launched earlier
00:22:22.100 this year
00:22:22.500 after multiple delays,
00:22:23.860 the front end
00:22:24.340 was admirably slick
00:22:25.800 delivering on the promise
00:22:27.240 of a stream of content
00:22:28.560 based around one story
00:22:29.720 that brings a material
00:22:30.480 from all of Reuters
00:22:31.760 and outside sources.
00:22:32.880 It impressed
00:22:33.580 the Reuters board
00:22:34.320 and outside critics
00:22:35.380 like Neiman Lab
00:22:36.140 but the improvements
00:22:37.340 were a little more
00:22:38.260 than a digital mirage.
00:22:40.280 Behind the scenes,
00:22:41.620 none of it worked.
00:22:44.380 We ended up
00:22:45.360 working on a system
00:22:46.440 that was even worse
00:22:47.420 than the legacy system
00:22:48.580 the Reuters insider said
00:22:49.920 adding that to the board
00:22:51.280 and the rest of the world
00:22:52.100 it looked like
00:22:53.060 a functioning website.
00:22:56.640 Why am I telling you
00:22:57.520 about that?
00:22:59.740 Because Christia Freeland
00:23:00.800 doesn't actually know
00:23:01.780 how to do anything.
00:23:03.560 How to run anything.
00:23:05.080 How to fix anything.
00:23:06.340 How to listen to people
00:23:07.460 who know more than her.
00:23:08.540 How to work with a team.
00:23:10.220 How to tap into expertise.
00:23:12.080 Christia Freeland
00:23:13.140 doesn't know
00:23:14.560 how to do anything
00:23:16.280 except be at Chatterbox.
00:23:19.700 Go on pundits panels
00:23:20.700 on TV
00:23:21.120 preen for the cameras.
00:23:22.200 She loves going
00:23:22.780 on TV talk shows.
00:23:24.140 She even still
00:23:24.740 goes on some of them.
00:23:25.960 Now that she's a foreign minister
00:23:27.180 like this show
00:23:30.080 that she did.
00:23:30.660 She was already
00:23:31.100 a liberal
00:23:31.580 back in Canada
00:23:33.040 as she was about
00:23:33.500 to run for office.
00:23:34.020 This is a quick clip.
00:23:35.320 I mean,
00:23:35.680 here's your foreign minister
00:23:36.780 really showing
00:23:38.180 that diplomatic edge.
00:23:39.240 Take a look.
00:23:39.560 Okay, so the problem
00:23:41.120 with Islam is
00:23:42.180 most of your show
00:23:43.620 pointing out
00:23:44.400 the dumbness
00:23:45.120 of Americans.
00:23:47.480 Yeah.
00:23:48.060 Not very diplomatic.
00:23:49.120 Not very grown up.
00:23:49.920 But hey,
00:23:50.240 she's got pep and spunk
00:23:51.560 and she's a feminist.
00:23:52.840 Well, you know what?
00:23:54.300 Reuters Next
00:23:54.900 was a $20 million
00:23:57.320 disaster.
00:23:59.860 Hundreds of people
00:24:01.220 lost their jobs
00:24:02.340 because of her.
00:24:04.500 A company's
00:24:05.260 strategic plan
00:24:06.140 was cratered.
00:24:07.880 It was a blunder.
00:24:10.560 Normally an executive
00:24:11.680 responsible for such
00:24:12.540 a meltdown
00:24:13.040 would go into
00:24:13.840 the wilderness
00:24:14.340 for a bit.
00:24:15.220 Maybe do some reflecting.
00:24:17.200 Maybe just go away
00:24:18.940 like Kim Campbell
00:24:20.320 did for a while.
00:24:22.120 Not Christy Freeland.
00:24:23.540 She failed upward
00:24:24.700 the Trudeau way.
00:24:26.580 Justin Trudeau
00:24:27.100 liked the cut
00:24:27.660 of her jib
00:24:28.280 and put her in charge
00:24:30.420 of one of the most
00:24:30.900 important files
00:24:31.520 in our country.
00:24:32.460 And she has gone
00:24:33.240 about wrecking
00:24:34.320 everything.
00:24:35.640 One country at a time.
00:24:36.980 Just like at Reuters.
00:24:38.140 Except at Reuters
00:24:38.940 they had a stop loss.
00:24:41.700 $20 million
00:24:42.380 into it
00:24:43.020 someone stepped in
00:24:44.460 and said
00:24:44.700 enough.
00:24:45.920 We're not throwing
00:24:46.660 good money
00:24:47.260 after bad.
00:24:48.440 Here we are
00:24:49.640 with China
00:24:52.180 taking our citizens
00:24:53.680 hostage.
00:24:54.920 Trudeau
00:24:55.340 unwelcome
00:24:56.060 in India.
00:24:57.220 Saudi Arabia
00:24:57.860 on the war path.
00:24:59.140 Donald Trump
00:24:59.640 eating our lunch
00:25:00.420 with tariffs
00:25:01.180 and trade restrictions.
00:25:02.660 Trudeau
00:25:03.060 alienating
00:25:03.900 the new president
00:25:04.620 of Brazil
00:25:05.260 Jair Bolsonaro
00:25:06.000 refusing to even
00:25:07.460 congratulate him
00:25:08.380 on his historic win.
00:25:09.540 Country after country
00:25:10.580 and you have to ask
00:25:11.940 just how far
00:25:14.260 will she be allowed
00:25:15.320 to wreck
00:25:16.080 our foreign relations
00:25:17.880 before we fire her?
00:25:20.780 Is there any limit?
00:25:23.940 Stay with us
00:25:24.600 for more on this
00:25:25.460 with Lillian Gunter.
00:25:26.500 I think
00:25:40.900 she has quite
00:25:42.180 good arguments
00:25:43.020 on her side.
00:25:44.700 One
00:25:45.260 political involvement
00:25:46.820 by comments
00:25:48.220 from Donald Trump
00:25:49.220 in her case.
00:25:50.860 Two
00:25:51.360 there's an
00:25:52.080 extraterritorial
00:25:53.400 aspect to her
00:25:54.560 case.
00:25:58.420 And three
00:25:59.160 there's the
00:26:00.060 issue of
00:26:00.860 Iran sanctions
00:26:01.860 which are involved
00:26:02.860 in her case
00:26:03.680 and Canada
00:26:04.740 does not
00:26:05.460 sign on
00:26:06.800 to these
00:26:07.240 Iran sanctions.
00:26:08.360 So I think
00:26:08.920 she has some
00:26:09.640 strong arguments
00:26:10.480 that she can make
00:26:12.000 before a judge.
00:26:13.500 That is John McCallum
00:26:15.060 until a few days ago
00:26:16.260 Canada's ambassador
00:26:17.580 to China
00:26:18.780 at a very special
00:26:20.280 Chinese media
00:26:21.180 only press conference
00:26:22.700 last week.
00:26:23.160 a 40 minute
00:26:23.780 press conference
00:26:24.440 and only
00:26:25.840 mainland Chinese
00:26:27.260 media
00:26:27.760 and Canadian
00:26:28.800 Chinese media
00:26:29.620 were invited.
00:26:30.200 He spoke
00:26:30.520 for 40 minutes
00:26:31.300 making the case
00:26:32.760 against Canada
00:26:34.080 and certainly
00:26:34.920 the case
00:26:35.420 against America
00:26:36.500 very clearly.
00:26:38.500 He later
00:26:39.100 said he
00:26:39.520 misspoke
00:26:40.240 as apparently
00:26:41.500 one does
00:26:42.140 for 40 minutes
00:26:43.080 and then he
00:26:43.920 misspoke again
00:26:44.560 and Trudeau
00:26:44.940 finally sacked him.
00:26:47.220 What is the state
00:26:47.980 of Canada
00:26:48.640 Chinese relations?
00:26:50.480 China
00:26:50.740 the country
00:26:51.120 that Justin Trudeau
00:26:51.780 once said
00:26:52.140 was his favorite
00:26:53.020 regime.
00:26:55.240 Well let me
00:26:55.600 read to you
00:26:55.980 from Global Times
00:26:56.980 an official
00:26:57.720 mouthpiece
00:26:58.240 of the Chinese
00:26:58.840 Communist Party.
00:27:00.060 Here's their
00:27:00.580 very undiplomatic
00:27:01.580 language
00:27:01.960 and you're going
00:27:02.340 to be shocked
00:27:02.780 by this
00:27:03.140 but I want
00:27:03.460 to tell you
00:27:03.820 how far
00:27:04.160 things have
00:27:05.240 sunk.
00:27:06.040 This is in
00:27:06.460 yesterday's
00:27:06.900 Global Times
00:27:07.360 they said
00:27:07.720 they said
00:27:07.740 as the Chinese
00:27:08.400 folk saying
00:27:08.900 goes
00:27:09.160 you cannot
00:27:09.920 live the
00:27:10.320 life of
00:27:10.640 a whore
00:27:11.180 and expect
00:27:11.960 a monument
00:27:12.560 to your
00:27:12.980 chastity.
00:27:13.940 Just incredible
00:27:14.920 the diplomatic
00:27:16.160 incident here
00:27:17.240 as Charles
00:27:17.720 Burton
00:27:17.940 former diplomat
00:27:18.680 says
00:27:19.020 the lowest
00:27:19.940 point in
00:27:20.400 Canada
00:27:20.740 Chinese
00:27:21.220 relations
00:27:21.820 ever.
00:27:23.740 And joining
00:27:23.980 us now
00:27:24.400 to talk
00:27:24.820 about the
00:27:25.180 disaster
00:27:25.620 is our
00:27:26.380 friend
00:27:26.540 Lauren
00:27:26.700 Gunter
00:27:27.000 senior
00:27:27.320 columnist
00:27:27.800 with the
00:27:28.120 Edmonton Sun
00:27:28.660 great to see
00:27:29.100 you again
00:27:29.340 Lauren.
00:27:30.100 Good to see
00:27:30.660 you.
00:27:30.920 I wish
00:27:31.180 I could get
00:27:31.640 away with
00:27:32.000 lines like
00:27:32.600 that in
00:27:33.000 my column.
00:27:34.560 Oh yeah
00:27:35.400 I mean
00:27:35.960 and Global
00:27:36.720 Times
00:27:37.200 really has
00:27:38.160 been the
00:27:38.500 official
00:27:38.840 mouthpiece
00:27:39.320 for the
00:27:39.600 Communist
00:27:39.900 Party
00:27:40.200 so this
00:27:40.580 isn't just
00:27:41.040 some op-ed
00:27:42.000 writer
00:27:42.340 and who
00:27:42.740 cares
00:27:42.980 this is
00:27:43.540 really
00:27:43.760 China
00:27:44.140 speaking
00:27:44.540 bluntly
00:27:44.960 to us.
00:27:45.700 And there
00:27:46.820 was another
00:27:47.420 semi-official
00:27:48.860 Chinese
00:27:50.060 outlet
00:27:50.460 this past
00:27:51.560 week
00:27:51.800 that said
00:27:52.300 this
00:27:53.720 incident
00:27:54.580 had caused
00:27:55.180 Canadians
00:27:55.640 to be
00:27:56.060 in revolt
00:27:57.060 against
00:27:57.500 their stupid
00:27:58.280 government.
00:27:59.400 I only
00:28:00.200 wish that
00:28:00.720 were true
00:28:01.260 but they
00:28:02.500 are obviously
00:28:03.380 very enraged
00:28:04.800 about all
00:28:05.320 of this
00:28:05.660 and McCallum's
00:28:07.300 ill-advised
00:28:10.500 use of
00:28:11.240 all of
00:28:13.100 these
00:28:13.440 statements
00:28:14.200 has only
00:28:15.160 made things
00:28:15.660 worse.
00:28:16.300 I mean
00:28:16.500 Trudeau did
00:28:17.400 have to
00:28:17.900 let him
00:28:18.300 go.
00:28:19.460 Whether or
00:28:20.300 not you
00:28:20.640 think John
00:28:21.220 McCallum's
00:28:21.820 right that
00:28:22.800 Ming Wan
00:28:23.920 Jiu has
00:28:24.620 a good
00:28:25.380 case against
00:28:26.900 the expedition
00:28:27.360 to the United
00:28:27.740 States I
00:28:28.060 don't think
00:28:28.320 she does.
00:28:28.960 But say
00:28:30.260 you agree
00:28:30.700 with him.
00:28:31.460 Even that
00:28:32.200 he still
00:28:33.000 had to
00:28:33.320 be let
00:28:33.620 go because
00:28:34.160 he clearly
00:28:35.280 had compromised
00:28:36.220 his usefulness
00:28:38.240 as Canada's
00:28:39.780 representative
00:28:40.440 to China
00:28:41.200 and he
00:28:41.840 was looking
00:28:42.300 far more
00:28:42.980 like China's
00:28:43.900 representative
00:28:44.500 to Canada.
00:28:46.080 In the clip
00:28:47.580 that you
00:28:48.100 showed there
00:28:48.640 from the
00:28:49.100 40 minute
00:28:49.780 Chinese
00:28:51.360 language only
00:28:52.640 press conference
00:28:53.480 he also
00:28:54.220 refers to
00:28:54.920 himself
00:28:55.400 by his
00:28:56.780 Chinese name.
00:28:58.700 His wife
00:28:59.160 is Chinese
00:28:59.980 and that
00:29:01.620 immaterial
00:29:02.460 to this
00:29:03.160 except that
00:29:04.320 it's very
00:29:04.960 clear I
00:29:05.700 think that
00:29:06.380 McCallum
00:29:07.040 adopting a
00:29:08.180 Chinese name
00:29:08.920 saying that
00:29:09.580 he's proud
00:29:10.580 that he's
00:29:10.960 visited nearly
00:29:11.600 every province
00:29:12.440 of China
00:29:12.960 he's nearly
00:29:13.540 fluent now
00:29:14.380 in Mandarin
00:29:15.040 I think
00:29:17.200 there were
00:29:17.680 these cases
00:29:18.300 back in
00:29:18.920 the 19th
00:29:19.980 century where
00:29:20.620 the British
00:29:21.380 would send
00:29:21.940 out some
00:29:22.640 earl's second
00:29:23.580 son to
00:29:25.160 be the
00:29:25.640 governor of
00:29:26.700 territory in
00:29:28.260 the empire
00:29:28.800 that no one
00:29:29.360 really cared
00:29:29.940 about and
00:29:30.780 they'd be there
00:29:31.300 for years
00:29:31.840 without much
00:29:32.420 contact with
00:29:33.420 the foreign
00:29:34.280 office in
00:29:35.000 London or
00:29:35.520 with the
00:29:35.880 Royal Navy
00:29:36.560 or anything
00:29:36.880 like that
00:29:37.200 and when
00:29:37.820 someone would
00:29:38.300 finally show
00:29:38.840 up they'd
00:29:39.540 send back a
00:29:40.140 dispatch that
00:29:40.880 so and so
00:29:42.340 had gone
00:29:42.840 native
00:29:43.180 and I
00:29:44.220 think that
00:29:44.960 John McCallum
00:29:46.060 had gone
00:29:46.400 native
00:29:46.660 he's far
00:29:47.500 more interested
00:29:48.780 in China's
00:29:49.540 argument than
00:29:50.320 the American
00:29:50.860 argument or
00:29:51.400 the Canadian
00:29:52.000 argument and
00:29:53.200 as a result
00:29:54.100 I don't see
00:29:55.060 where Trudeau
00:29:55.440 had any
00:29:56.100 option but
00:29:56.840 to let him
00:29:57.240 go
00:29:57.480 yeah you
00:29:58.360 know there's
00:29:58.720 a tradition
00:29:59.200 amongst
00:29:59.640 modern diplomatic
00:30:01.240 corps to
00:30:01.840 rotate people
00:30:03.060 through offices
00:30:03.740 precisely to
00:30:05.120 avoid that
00:30:05.720 going native
00:30:06.280 because diplomats
00:30:07.800 are humans
00:30:08.520 too and they
00:30:09.060 want to be
00:30:09.560 loved and
00:30:10.320 they want
00:30:10.780 to be
00:30:11.320 respected
00:30:12.020 and well
00:30:12.500 received
00:30:12.880 and so you
00:30:13.660 start to
00:30:14.060 take the
00:30:14.480 side of
00:30:16.000 the local
00:30:16.340 population
00:30:16.980 and that
00:30:17.520 you want
00:30:17.880 to be
00:30:18.100 friendly but
00:30:18.620 at the
00:30:18.860 end of
00:30:19.080 the day
00:30:19.480 you are
00:30:20.320 the agent
00:30:21.120 for Canada
00:30:22.380 there you're
00:30:23.260 the lawyer
00:30:23.860 for Canada
00:30:25.240 so to speak
00:30:25.860 you can't
00:30:26.380 start to say
00:30:26.860 well I see
00:30:27.460 the other
00:30:27.760 side of the
00:30:28.200 story that's
00:30:28.860 the time to
00:30:29.240 rotate you
00:30:29.720 Lauren I've
00:30:31.160 got nothing
00:30:31.540 against the
00:30:32.020 guy who's
00:30:32.480 really trying
00:30:33.120 to ingratiate
00:30:34.140 but that
00:30:35.780 ingratiation has
00:30:36.700 to be to
00:30:37.220 promote Canada's
00:30:38.700 interest let me
00:30:39.300 show you a clip
00:30:39.780 I've shown this
00:30:40.600 before this
00:30:41.940 is when
00:30:44.300 McCallum
00:30:44.780 appeared before
00:30:45.340 a parliamentary
00:30:45.820 committee and
00:30:46.400 this was about
00:30:46.920 this was before
00:30:47.820 these troubled
00:30:48.380 times when
00:30:49.560 Trudeau and
00:30:50.080 McCallum were
00:30:50.600 trying to start
00:30:51.140 negotiating a
00:30:52.020 trade deal
00:30:53.060 and basically
00:30:54.320 McCallum was
00:30:54.980 asked what is
00:30:55.460 your negotiating
00:30:56.080 position and
00:30:57.840 this is what he
00:30:59.620 said here take a
00:31:00.300 quick look at
00:31:00.740 this
00:31:01.060 within 24 hours
00:31:02.840 of arriving in
00:31:03.660 China I was
00:31:04.460 invited to
00:31:05.180 present my
00:31:06.420 credentials to
00:31:07.820 President Xi
00:31:08.720 Jinping and I
00:31:10.280 conveyed to him
00:31:11.040 a message from
00:31:11.740 our Prime
00:31:12.200 Minister that
00:31:13.340 can be summarized
00:31:14.260 in three words
00:31:15.180 more more more
00:31:17.020 or in Mandarin
00:31:18.540 and congrats
00:31:19.280 and congrats
00:31:19.880 and congrats
00:31:20.700 yeah you know
00:31:23.120 the Chinese have
00:31:23.740 been negotiating
00:31:24.400 for 5,000 years
00:31:26.240 they are masters
00:31:27.620 of diplomacy
00:31:28.480 and I'm guessing
00:31:29.660 Lauren I mean I'm
00:31:30.400 not the master of
00:31:31.740 the art of the deal
00:31:32.300 but I'm guessing
00:31:32.980 starting out by
00:31:34.180 saying to your
00:31:36.040 negotiating opponent
00:31:37.360 whatever you want
00:31:38.600 the answer is yes
00:31:39.500 and more
00:31:40.180 I'm guessing
00:31:41.340 that's not going to
00:31:43.000 work against folks
00:31:43.960 who have been
00:31:44.220 negotiating since the
00:31:45.640 time of Sun Tzu
00:31:46.700 well and you know
00:31:48.200 I don't doubt
00:31:49.240 that we were
00:31:50.260 sending signals
00:31:51.640 to Beijing
00:31:52.680 that we were
00:31:54.420 happy to
00:31:55.440 help them
00:31:57.920 handle the
00:31:58.700 troubles they
00:31:59.500 were having
00:32:00.040 with the White
00:32:00.960 House for
00:32:01.580 instance and
00:32:02.520 now all of a
00:32:03.220 sudden the
00:32:04.040 Justice Department
00:32:05.140 asks us to
00:32:06.300 arrest this
00:32:07.040 Chinese executive
00:32:08.200 on suspicion
00:32:09.960 of fraud and
00:32:11.000 trying to get
00:32:11.580 around America's
00:32:13.160 sanctions against
00:32:13.980 Iran and Iran's
00:32:15.280 nuclear program
00:32:16.220 and they're
00:32:17.440 suddenly incensed
00:32:18.420 they think that
00:32:19.140 their little sock
00:32:20.780 puppet in Ottawa
00:32:22.900 is rebelling
00:32:24.540 and so they're
00:32:25.920 very angry about
00:32:26.820 that
00:32:27.060 it's a really
00:32:29.440 puzzling thing
00:32:30.480 though for me
00:32:31.160 because I think
00:32:31.980 this gets at a
00:32:33.860 broader issue
00:32:34.700 with the Trudeau
00:32:35.400 government
00:32:35.700 you remember
00:32:36.140 when right after
00:32:38.240 I think within
00:32:39.560 the first five
00:32:40.820 days of Trudeau
00:32:42.480 being elected
00:32:43.240 in 2015
00:32:44.020 he announced
00:32:45.600 to the world
00:32:46.640 that Canada
00:32:47.760 was back
00:32:48.520 and we were
00:32:49.640 going to engage
00:32:50.780 again as the
00:32:51.580 honest broker
00:32:52.440 and we weren't
00:32:53.040 going to be
00:32:53.540 like Harper
00:32:54.240 and be
00:32:55.360 the Americans
00:32:56.360 toady
00:32:57.100 and we weren't
00:32:58.000 going to engage
00:32:58.880 in wars
00:32:59.600 around the way
00:33:00.300 Canada was
00:33:01.260 going to be
00:33:01.880 what it had
00:33:02.360 always been
00:33:02.980 well what it
00:33:04.200 had been
00:33:04.500 since his
00:33:04.920 father
00:33:05.320 and that was
00:33:07.440 the Blue
00:33:07.900 Beret and
00:33:08.800 the aid group
00:33:10.200 and the NGO
00:33:10.980 and Canada
00:33:11.980 was back
00:33:12.280 I can't name
00:33:13.920 a single country
00:33:14.860 that we have
00:33:16.360 relations with
00:33:17.240 where the
00:33:18.400 relations are
00:33:18.960 better now
00:33:19.500 than they were
00:33:20.020 when Trudeau
00:33:20.520 took over
00:33:21.060 he's messed
00:33:22.180 up China
00:33:22.720 he's messed
00:33:23.300 up the United
00:33:23.800 States
00:33:24.100 he's messed
00:33:24.540 up Saudi
00:33:25.040 Arabia
00:33:25.580 he's messed
00:33:27.300 up everything
00:33:28.100 with Brazil
00:33:28.940 oh yeah
00:33:29.660 it just goes
00:33:30.380 on and on
00:33:31.200 and on
00:33:31.660 on the foreign
00:33:33.420 policy side
00:33:34.040 you remember
00:33:34.400 during the
00:33:35.560 North America
00:33:37.380 free trade
00:33:37.980 agreement
00:33:38.400 negotiations
00:33:39.540 last fall
00:33:40.680 most of
00:33:42.560 the media
00:33:43.200 fell all over
00:33:44.240 Chrystia Freeland
00:33:44.960 oh my goodness
00:33:45.980 she brings us
00:33:47.060 popsicles when
00:33:47.960 it's hot
00:33:48.500 and we're in
00:33:49.540 Washington
00:33:50.020 and she's so
00:33:51.060 smart and she's
00:33:51.960 so witty
00:33:52.440 and she's
00:33:52.820 I think
00:33:53.960 we got taken
00:33:55.280 and I don't
00:33:56.640 think that
00:33:57.100 Freeland is all
00:33:57.960 that good
00:33:59.060 as a foreign
00:34:00.460 affairs minister
00:34:01.200 and for sure
00:34:02.260 Justin Trudeau
00:34:03.340 is not very good
00:34:04.340 on foreign
00:34:05.120 relations
00:34:05.620 yeah
00:34:06.000 you know
00:34:07.020 you're right
00:34:07.400 and let me
00:34:07.760 throw in
00:34:08.280 India
00:34:08.900 into the mix
00:34:09.840 I mean so
00:34:10.240 China
00:34:10.600 most populous
00:34:11.920 country in the
00:34:12.440 world
00:34:12.660 soon to be
00:34:13.540 the biggest
00:34:13.880 economy in the
00:34:14.540 world if it's
00:34:14.940 not already
00:34:15.380 India
00:34:15.940 most big
00:34:16.960 biggest democracy
00:34:18.380 probably soon to
00:34:19.860 overtake China
00:34:20.640 in that regard
00:34:21.140 and it's part of
00:34:21.840 the British
00:34:22.200 Commonwealth
00:34:22.940 and there's a
00:34:23.860 lot of China
00:34:24.420 India
00:34:25.360 expats
00:34:27.080 here
00:34:27.240 I mean people
00:34:27.640 have moved
00:34:27.960 here
00:34:28.220 America
00:34:29.020 Brazil
00:34:29.640 Trudeau
00:34:30.840 wouldn't even
00:34:31.360 send out a
00:34:31.920 congratulations letter
00:34:33.040 to Jair Bolsonaro
00:34:33.860 mentioning him
00:34:34.600 by name
00:34:35.080 when he was
00:34:35.880 just elected
00:34:36.820 as president
00:34:37.300 recently
00:34:37.740 Trudeau would
00:34:38.480 not even say
00:34:39.060 his name
00:34:39.460 because he so
00:34:39.980 hates him
00:34:40.640 it's so weird
00:34:42.900 that these
00:34:43.300 and listen
00:34:44.440 the fact that
00:34:45.120 Chrystia Freeland
00:34:45.760 is banned
00:34:46.460 from traveling
00:34:47.400 to Russia
00:34:47.960 I'm not blaming
00:34:49.380 her for that
00:34:50.120 I would blame
00:34:51.000 Putin for that
00:34:51.680 but that goes
00:34:52.360 to the point
00:34:52.860 where's this
00:34:53.620 Canada's back
00:34:54.500 business
00:34:54.920 we're at the
00:34:56.020 back
00:34:56.340 Canada's at
00:34:57.120 the back
00:34:57.640 I can't
00:34:58.460 you're so right
00:34:59.380 on and
00:34:59.880 I don't know
00:35:01.140 anyone
00:35:01.440 even North Korea
00:35:02.900 I would joke
00:35:04.540 that at least
00:35:05.400 you know
00:35:06.680 Cuba
00:35:07.020 North Korea
00:35:07.740 Iran
00:35:08.340 but even
00:35:09.000 they
00:35:09.400 are not
00:35:10.300 doing anything
00:35:11.560 for us
00:35:12.260 given
00:35:12.620 Trudeau's
00:35:14.000 subservience
00:35:14.600 give you an
00:35:15.740 example of why
00:35:16.520 this is
00:35:16.920 practically
00:35:17.660 a problem
00:35:18.420 why this is
00:35:18.860 a problem
00:35:19.940 in a practical
00:35:20.640 thing
00:35:20.980 so we have
00:35:22.260 a Canadian
00:35:23.300 businessman
00:35:24.220 and a Canadian
00:35:25.020 diplomat
00:35:25.920 on leave
00:35:26.700 both of whom
00:35:28.500 were taken
00:35:30.060 by the Chinese
00:35:30.800 after we
00:35:31.500 arrested
00:35:31.860 Meng
00:35:32.300 and we
00:35:34.840 arrested Meng
00:35:35.600 on behalf
00:35:36.140 of the United
00:35:36.560 States
00:35:36.880 our relations
00:35:38.460 with the
00:35:38.800 Americans
00:35:39.120 are so bad
00:35:39.820 we have to
00:35:40.660 go big
00:35:41.200 around the
00:35:41.940 world
00:35:42.300 for other
00:35:43.080 countries
00:35:43.500 to come
00:35:43.920 to the
00:35:44.320 defense
00:35:44.620 of our
00:35:45.400 citizens
00:35:45.960 who have
00:35:46.420 been taken
00:35:46.880 in China
00:35:47.400 that's how
00:35:48.160 isolated
00:35:48.960 and remote
00:35:49.780 we are
00:35:50.400 in the
00:35:50.960 diplomatic
00:35:51.400 community
00:35:51.880 that's an
00:35:53.020 outstanding
00:35:53.320 point
00:35:53.620 and as
00:35:54.080 Lauren
00:35:54.280 mentioned
00:35:54.620 to me
00:35:54.880 a moment
00:35:55.160 ago
00:35:55.520 it's ironic
00:35:56.500 that we
00:35:56.940 have to
00:35:57.540 ask
00:35:58.320 every
00:35:58.740 country
00:35:59.180 around
00:35:59.520 the
00:35:59.720 world
00:35:59.960 to go
00:36:00.320 to bat
00:36:00.820 for us
00:36:01.360 with China
00:36:02.320 we can't
00:36:02.860 do it
00:36:03.140 ourselves
00:36:03.560 and for
00:36:04.260 some reason
00:36:04.680 other countries
00:36:05.340 don't feel
00:36:05.920 that compelled
00:36:06.820 to help
00:36:07.720 us out
00:36:08.060 and by us
00:36:08.600 out I mean
00:36:09.180 Justin Trudeau
00:36:10.460 well that's
00:36:10.800 our friend
00:36:11.080 Lauren
00:36:11.320 Gunter
00:36:11.680 from the
00:36:12.760 Edmonton
00:36:13.220 Sun
00:36:13.560 a great
00:36:14.380 advisor to
00:36:14.940 us on
00:36:15.240 so many
00:36:15.600 issues
00:36:15.980 stay with
00:36:16.700 us
00:36:17.020 more
00:36:17.720 ahead
00:36:17.880 on the
00:36:18.100 rebel
00:36:26.500 hey
00:36:29.540 welcome
00:36:29.720 back
00:36:29.940 on my
00:36:30.120 monologue
00:36:30.460 Friday
00:36:30.820 about the
00:36:31.160 Kingston
00:36:31.580 youth
00:36:31.960 that was
00:36:32.180 charged
00:36:32.440 with
00:36:32.580 terrorism
00:36:32.980 Paul
00:36:33.360 writes
00:36:33.820 no no
00:36:34.840 no no
00:36:35.100 no it
00:36:35.320 wasn't
00:36:35.620 terrorism
00:36:35.980 related
00:36:36.280 it was
00:36:36.600 clearly
00:36:36.920 toxic
00:36:37.800 masculinity
00:36:38.540 yeah I
00:36:39.420 don't know
00:36:39.660 what's going
00:36:40.000 on there
00:36:40.440 I mean
00:36:40.680 is there a
00:36:41.180 charge
00:36:41.560 or not
00:36:41.980 or it's
00:36:42.560 weird
00:36:43.100 released
00:36:43.740 I do
00:36:44.840 know one
00:36:45.200 thing
00:36:45.380 the RCMP
00:36:45.940 said 300
00:36:46.660 different
00:36:47.380 people were
00:36:48.200 involved in
00:36:48.680 the investigation
00:36:49.300 they had a
00:36:50.120 plane flying
00:36:50.820 overhead
00:36:51.200 for months
00:36:52.380 yeah I
00:36:54.320 think there's
00:36:54.680 a little bit
00:36:55.040 more there
00:36:55.500 than our
00:36:55.960 liberal bosses
00:36:56.660 will tell
00:36:57.680 us
00:36:58.240 Robert says
00:36:59.720 I'm surprised
00:37:00.820 the Bounties
00:37:01.280 found enough
00:37:01.700 time to
00:37:02.120 arrest this
00:37:02.560 guy
00:37:02.800 seeing how
00:37:03.420 they spend
00:37:03.720 so much
00:37:04.040 of their
00:37:04.220 time
00:37:04.500 as border
00:37:05.260 bellhops
00:37:06.060 yeah
00:37:06.740 yeah I
00:37:08.680 think that's
00:37:09.680 the thing
00:37:10.080 you will need
00:37:11.360 a wall of
00:37:12.200 some sort
00:37:12.720 you will need
00:37:13.140 a lock
00:37:13.600 on a door
00:37:14.280 somewhere
00:37:15.300 you'll need
00:37:16.280 bars
00:37:16.740 somewhere
00:37:17.300 either you
00:37:17.720 have it
00:37:18.120 surrounding
00:37:18.980 your country
00:37:19.700 and within
00:37:20.220 it is
00:37:20.800 safety
00:37:21.220 or you'll
00:37:22.000 need it
00:37:22.260 around
00:37:22.480 your house
00:37:22.960 your school
00:37:23.680 your office
00:37:24.680 but you can
00:37:25.480 never be
00:37:25.940 totally safe
00:37:26.660 if you don't
00:37:27.080 have
00:37:27.320 if you have
00:37:28.920 a country
00:37:29.320 without borders
00:37:30.060 I think
00:37:30.760 that's a
00:37:31.080 very
00:37:31.460 very
00:37:32.880 keen
00:37:34.440 observation
00:37:35.080 my interview
00:37:36.760 with Joe Pollack
00:37:37.380 about the
00:37:37.700 arrest of Roger Stone
00:37:38.460 Bruce writes
00:37:39.080 I agree with you
00:37:40.520 Ezra about Roger Stone
00:37:41.480 being arrested
00:37:41.960 with such theatrics
00:37:42.900 that's the sort
00:37:43.820 of third world
00:37:44.320 thing third world
00:37:45.500 dictatorships do
00:37:46.220 look citizens
00:37:47.000 this could be you
00:37:47.640 if you don't
00:37:48.040 be good boys
00:37:48.740 and girls
00:37:49.440 yeah Roger Stone
00:37:51.160 is a real character
00:37:52.320 and he I think
00:37:54.380 reveled in the attention
00:37:55.420 and he did sort of
00:37:56.200 his Nixon
00:37:56.760 I am not a crook
00:37:58.340 like he really
00:37:59.160 hammed it up
00:37:59.700 remember Roger Stone
00:38:00.900 is such an interesting
00:38:01.840 and strange character
00:38:02.740 he's got a huge
00:38:03.180 tattoo of Nixon
00:38:03.920 on his back
00:38:04.440 I think he loves
00:38:06.420 being the center
00:38:06.860 of attention
00:38:07.360 he's a very unusual
00:38:09.180 man that way
00:38:10.120 but for the rest
00:38:11.400 of us
00:38:11.900 I think we should
00:38:12.780 be terrified
00:38:13.800 I don't think we
00:38:14.420 have that kind of
00:38:15.000 spectacular
00:38:15.780 SWAT style
00:38:17.280 paramilitary style
00:38:18.520 policing in Canada
00:38:19.620 that frequently
00:38:21.300 I think it's only
00:38:22.960 a matter of time
00:38:23.700 especially as
00:38:24.600 Rachel Notley
00:38:25.340 and Justin Trudeau
00:38:26.400 decide to weaponize
00:38:28.280 their hatred
00:38:28.840 for their opponents
00:38:29.660 too
00:38:29.960 God forbid
00:38:30.680 well that's our show
00:38:31.980 for today
00:38:32.480 thanks for watching
00:38:33.260 until tomorrow
00:38:34.080 on behalf of all of us
00:38:35.280 here at Rebel World
00:38:35.900 Headquarters
00:38:36.380 good night
00:38:36.760 and keep fighting
00:38:38.080 for freedom
00:38:38.540 good night
00:38:45.720 peace
00:38:47.640 us
00:38:49.280 we'll see you
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