Rebel News Podcast - Canada’s international relations have never been this chaotic. Did anybody do a background check on Chrystia Freeland before she was given the job？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Canada's international relations have never been this chaotic.

00:00:04.200 Did anybody bother to do a background check on Chrystia Freeland before she was given the job? 1.00

00:00:09.620 It's January 28th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:14.420 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:18.220 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.300 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:30.000 It really is the worst time in history for Canada's international relations.

00:00:38.260 I know that sounds crazy to say but even during the Cold War when we were at odds with the Soviet bloc

00:00:43.340 and the two world wars when we were at odds with various national alliances.

00:00:49.240 We even fought against them militarily but we were respected by friends and respected by enemies too

00:00:54.580 and we were reliable as both weren't we?

00:00:57.540 And Justin Trudeau, well he promised he would bring back such diplomatic panache to our foreign affairs

00:01:05.300 and all the permanent career diplomats seem to agree with him.

00:01:09.660 So that's the contrast here of how bad things are to what he said would happen.

00:01:13.940 I mean remember when the non-partisan civil servants in the Pearson building, that's the foreign affairs headquarters,

00:01:21.200 remember they literally cheered Justin Trudeau upon his arrival at their office.

00:01:26.520 Mr. Trudeau, Mr. Trudeau, Mr. Trudeau, can you talk about the phone call?

00:01:41.980 Yeah, that's your non-partisan, absolutely professional civil service folks.

00:01:46.760 Well, look, it wasn't that Harper was reckless or unprofessional.

00:01:52.540 The cheering for Trudeau there wasn't because finally a smooth operator was in charge.

00:01:56.740 It was that they disagreed with Harper on substantive policy.

00:02:01.140 They disagreed with his position on Israel.

00:02:03.860 He was more supportive of Israel than the bureaucrats.

00:02:06.840 They disagreed with him on Palestine.

00:02:08.860 He called out Islamic terrorists.

00:02:10.680 On China, Harper was wary of them on everything from human rights to spying, to buying up our strategic assets.

00:02:17.160 To the UN, Harper believed in national sovereignty, non-global schemes run by foreigners.

00:02:21.240 The fancy people, the official people, the folks cheering for Trudeau there,

00:02:25.240 they mocked Harper and blamed him when Canada was not elected to the UN Security Council in 2010.

00:02:31.260 It's obvious why he wasn't and why Canada wasn't.

00:02:34.280 That Security Council election is where every country at the UN gets one vote

00:02:39.280 who gets to be a temporary member of the Security Council along with the five permanent members.

00:02:44.880 And Harper, because he was pro-American, pro-Israel, pro-NATO, etc.,

00:02:48.880 he obviously lost the votes of all the third world dictatorships, obviously.

00:02:52.560 And that's a good thing.

00:02:55.260 Justin Trudeau has been campaigning furiously to get the votes of those third world countries to win that seat in 2021.

00:03:01.960 That's why he's dumping foreign aid on every tyrant in the world.

00:03:05.740 That's why he's sending our military men and women to places like Mali,

00:03:09.580 for which there is no Canadian national interest.

00:03:11.660 It's so weird.

00:03:12.400 It's such a fake achievement being on the Security Council.

00:03:15.700 It's a bragging right unmoored from what matters.

00:03:18.540 It's just for show, which is exactly why Trudeau likes it.

00:03:21.920 But my point is, look, the fancy people who love jetting to Davos and other fancy get-togethers,

00:03:26.840 is they think Harper was a failure in foreign affairs,

00:03:31.940 and they promised that Trudeau would do better in foreign affairs.

00:03:36.320 But three and a half years into Trudeau's term,

00:03:38.720 is there a single thing that Trudeau hasn't made worse?

00:03:42.380 And I say this because I was jolted with the most shocking headline,

00:03:46.200 the most shocking report I've seen from a foreign country talking about Canada. 0.99

00:03:49.780 Something that was never said about Harper by anyone,

00:03:53.680 even Vladimir Putin, who Harper famously challenged at his G20 meeting once,

00:03:58.340 or even by the PLO, who Harper famously challenged.

00:04:01.560 I mean, recall that even Barack Obama,

00:04:03.380 although he and Harper were at odds over so many matters,

00:04:07.700 Obama still respected Harper enough that he would not actually kill

00:04:10.660 the Keystone XL pipeline during Harper's term.

00:04:13.660 Maybe he was worried what Harper would do in reaction,

00:04:16.500 or maybe he actually valued Harper's relationship and help enough.

00:04:20.900 But one of the first things Obama did after Trudeau was elected

00:04:23.040 was to give us that bad news that he was ripping up the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:04:26.420 I think that's a sign that people around the world know

00:04:29.280 that Trudeau can be pushed around,

00:04:30.440 that he's just the guy with fancy socks and takes selfies.

00:04:33.720 There's not a lot of there there.

00:04:35.800 He doesn't read his briefing notes, obviously.

00:04:37.600 He's more a mascot than a leader.

00:04:40.140 Now, I say all this because of the mockery that Harper faced 0.99

00:04:42.700 for his foreign affairs,

00:04:43.900 when arguably it was very successful.

00:04:46.240 Now, compare that to these days.

00:04:49.300 So let me read to you this line from this Chinese propaganda magazine

00:04:52.220 that I read today.

00:04:53.300 It's called Global Times, like all media in China.

00:04:55.780 It's controlled by the Communist Party.

00:04:57.540 Global Times has been their megaphone

00:04:58.940 during this whole spat between China and Canada

00:05:01.380 about Meng Wanzhou, you know, the CFO of that Chinese company

00:05:04.740 called Huawei, who was arrested in Vancouver

00:05:08.660 and is trying to extradite it to the States.

00:05:10.980 Global Times is where the Communist Party of China

00:05:14.580 speaks a bit more frankly than it does to its foreign affairs diplomats.

00:05:19.200 So look at the headline.

00:05:21.160 Resignation reveals political interference.

00:05:23.200 And let me read a couple sentences, just a couple.

00:05:25.920 As the Chinese folk saying goes,

00:05:27.460 you cannot live the life of a whore 1.00

00:05:28.960 and expect a monument to your chastity.

00:05:31.260 Canada is a country worthy of respect,

00:05:32.800 but some Canadians must be reminded

00:05:34.520 that they are now refusing to face up to the moral predicament.

00:05:37.040 They are against moral righteousness

00:05:39.140 while deceiving themselves to believe

00:05:40.760 they can be honoured as moral models.

00:05:45.280 Meng's case seems to be protracted.

00:05:48.080 If Canada insists on wrong practice,

00:05:50.460 it must pay for it.

00:05:52.060 Okay.

00:05:53.540 And they're arresting Canadians

00:05:54.880 and threatening to execute one.

00:05:56.840 Now, obviously, I do not support China's government.

00:05:59.580 They are a dictatorship.

00:06:00.720 They have illegally seized Canadian hostages.

00:06:02.880 They do not believe in the rule of law

00:06:04.140 for Chinese people, let alone for foreigners.

00:06:05.660 I believe that Huawei is a security threat.

00:06:08.000 I believe China is by far the largest

00:06:09.820 non-terrorist threat to Canada.

00:06:12.520 That is, they're a military threat

00:06:13.980 and an espionage threat, especially industrial espionage.

00:06:16.940 But I will acknowledge the obvious.

00:06:18.360 Canada's relationship with China

00:06:19.500 is the worst it's ever been.

00:06:21.020 And I don't mean that we are the most hostile to China

00:06:23.160 we've ever been.

00:06:23.700 The opposite.

00:06:24.200 We suck up to China much more 0.94

00:06:26.000 than we did under Stephen Harper.

00:06:27.440 We ignore security and human rights concerns 0.76

00:06:30.000 much more than we did under Harper.

00:06:31.460 Harper was tougher on them,

00:06:32.540 but the relationship was better.

00:06:33.600 So I'm not equating disagreements

00:06:35.120 with diplomatic chaos and rage.

00:06:38.200 I mean, no one is tougher on China than Donald Trump,

00:06:40.940 but they literally rolled out the red carpet

00:06:43.260 and treated him like a king when he went to Beijing.

00:06:46.700 Remember this video we showed before?

00:06:48.800 They call him Donald the Strong

00:06:51.200 or Uncle Donald, according to the New York Times.

00:06:54.060 That's what they call him.

00:06:55.420 I don't need to remind you

00:06:56.700 what they said about our guy, Trudeau.

00:06:59.140 And this was before we got into this latest fight.

00:07:03.160 Remember this?

00:07:04.140 We're quite proud.

00:07:05.580 The prime minister has been given a fond nickname in China.

00:07:10.140 He is called Pudou,

00:07:12.400 which I believe means potato.

00:07:15.000 And he is, I can't say the Chinese word,

00:07:16.660 it's young, Pudou, little potato,

00:07:19.740 because his father, Pierre Elliott,

00:07:22.200 Pudou, was senior potato.

00:07:24.800 So we feel we are off to a great start.

00:07:29.700 How could Chrystia Freeland not have known

00:07:32.280 that was an insult?

00:07:34.060 How could she think that was wonderful?

00:07:37.800 Well, remember who Chrystia Freeland is.

00:07:39.440 She's the cabinet minister who, 0.96

00:07:41.280 in a tough trade negotiation with Belgium,

00:07:44.760 broke down into tears on camera.

00:07:48.640 Belgium made her cry. 1.00

00:07:51.020 Belgium, that's like the nerdy kid in school 1.00

00:07:55.620 that the bullies always used to steal his lunch money.

00:07:59.900 That nerdy kid, Belgium,

00:08:02.920 made our cabinet minister cry.

00:08:07.020 Canada has worked really hard.

00:08:09.020 And I personally, I've worked very hard.

00:08:10.980 But it seems evident for me, for Canada,

00:08:20.960 that the European Union is not able,

00:08:23.880 now, to have an international agreement,

00:08:29.580 even with a country that has such European values

00:08:35.940 like Canada.

00:08:37.080 Hey, can I ask you a question?

00:08:42.640 I mean, I'm sorry to ask it,

00:08:43.840 but no one else will, so let me.

00:08:45.980 How on earth does such a disaster retain her job,

00:08:48.960 let alone be voted best diplomat in the world

00:08:52.020 by some think tank in Washington?

00:08:54.660 How?

00:08:55.220 How, how, how?

00:08:56.400 Well, it's the same way that Barack Obama

00:08:58.320 was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize

00:09:00.920 weeks after his election.

00:09:04.960 So it wasn't for anything he did.

00:09:07.080 It's what he stood for.

00:09:09.420 They were a bit disappointed in Barack Obama,

00:09:12.940 the Nobel Prize secretary.

00:09:15.200 I mean, he started a whole bunch of wars.

00:09:17.380 He lit the Arab world on fire. 1.00

00:09:20.120 But they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize

00:09:22.220 for having the right feelings.

00:09:24.680 And that's why Freeland won those plaudits.

00:09:27.280 She hates Donald Trump.

00:09:28.300 That's all the foreign policy establishment cares about.

00:09:30.580 She literally attended a panel discussion in Toronto

00:09:33.220 that called Trump a tyrant.

00:09:35.120 It was really an anti-Trump rally.

00:09:37.580 And she did this right in the middle of the NAFTA renegotiations.

00:09:40.760 And remember, she showed up in Washington

00:09:42.280 with this weird homemade t-shirt with messages

00:09:45.400 about the negotiations.

00:09:47.320 While those negotiations were ongoing,

00:09:49.840 why isn't anyone saying,

00:09:51.040 we're going to stop this woman from wrecking things? 1.00

00:09:53.340 Where are the grown-ups here?

00:09:54.520 I mean, whoever had the ability to fire John McCallum,

00:09:57.640 I don't know who that was,

00:09:59.120 can that person please relieve Freeland of her position too?

00:10:03.640 Obviously, Trudeau won't fire himself,

00:10:05.780 but can we please put Chrystia Freeland 1.00

00:10:07.740 into a job more suited to her talents,

00:10:10.620 whatever those undiscovered talents may be?

00:10:14.320 Chrystia Freeland's job before becoming an MP

00:10:16.700 he was as a star journalist.

00:10:18.880 Everyone says that about her,

00:10:20.280 just like they call her a star diplomat.

00:10:22.740 I want to tell you about the last thing she touched

00:10:24.960 as a journalist.

00:10:27.100 This was reported at the time,

00:10:28.400 but it wasn't emphasized.

00:10:29.340 See, Chrystia Freeland lived outside of Canada

00:10:31.520 for many years.

00:10:32.840 She lived in New York with her family.

00:10:34.300 She worked in New York with her family.

00:10:35.980 That's where she lived.

00:10:36.840 She came back to Toronto at the last moment,

00:10:38.680 like Michael Ignatieff did,

00:10:39.720 to rule over us.

00:10:42.080 She didn't live here.

00:10:43.380 She didn't even have a home here.

00:10:45.280 She worked for Thomson Reuters,

00:10:46.540 one of the biggest news companies in the world,

00:10:48.360 and they were starting a new venture

00:10:49.980 called Reuters Next,

00:10:52.880 which sounds amazing!

00:10:56.020 And that's really what Chrystia Freeland is good at, 0.67

00:10:57.980 dropping lots of buzzwords,

00:10:59.800 jargon,

00:11:01.760 phrases that sound good at a TED Talk or something,

00:11:04.460 but afterwards you say,

00:11:05.520 what did she say again?

00:11:06.700 Is there anything of substance?

00:11:07.960 She still does the pundits circuit

00:11:10.540 and the speaking circuit for some weird reason.

00:11:12.640 The other day,

00:11:13.440 I think I mentioned this,

00:11:14.300 when Venezuela was undergoing a street revolution,

00:11:16.480 the best day in Venezuela in a generation,

00:11:19.360 she was unable to make a statement about it for hours

00:11:21.720 because she was busy,

00:11:23.180 as her own Twitter feed showed,

00:11:25.560 doing a pundits panel at a speaking gig

00:11:27.940 at the Davos Forum in Switzerland.

00:11:31.560 Why?

00:11:33.280 I mean, I know she would do that

00:11:34.920 when she was a journalist

00:11:36.080 before she became a foreign minister,

00:11:37.520 but isn't a foreign minister's job

00:11:39.560 to do things about foreign affairs,

00:11:42.180 you know, do diplomacy,

00:11:43.300 not just talk about others who do them

00:11:45.340 like a pundit does?

00:11:47.520 The fact that really no one in the world cared

00:11:50.200 that Chrystia Freeland was on a pundits panel

00:11:52.780 instead of dealing with the miraculous crisis

00:11:55.340 on the streets of Venezuela

00:11:56.980 shows that no one in the world

00:11:59.300 who makes actual decisions

00:12:01.460 waited to hear what Freeland has to say.

00:12:04.120 Why would they care what she said?

00:12:06.540 But back to her journalism at Reuters Next.

00:12:09.320 It was a big deal.

00:12:10.660 Reuters burnt $20 million on it.

00:12:14.520 They put 150 staff on it.

00:12:16.560 It's a major project,

00:12:17.640 not as major as running a government department,

00:12:20.280 but a good test of,

00:12:21.580 does she have the ability to do things? 1.00

00:12:23.520 So how did it all work out?

00:12:24.600 I mean, isn't it a good predictor

00:12:26.400 as to whether she could get anything done,

00:12:28.720 whether she could work with others,

00:12:30.140 manage others, manage herself? 0.94

00:12:32.820 How is she in her one big job,

00:12:34.880 the one big opportunity to do things?

00:12:38.280 Can she do things or just chatter? 1.00

00:12:42.340 Well, let's look back.

00:12:43.480 Here's a story from just over five years ago.

00:12:46.900 It's from Politico.

00:12:48.040 What really happened to Reuters Next?

00:12:50.640 Let me read a bit.

00:12:51.460 On Wednesday, Thomson Reuters' new CEO,

00:12:54.840 Andrew Rashbass,

00:12:56.620 announced the company was canceling

00:12:57.880 the ambitious new digital news project,

00:13:00.020 Reuters Next.

00:13:01.560 Oh, really?

00:13:02.600 Yeah.

00:13:03.500 Now, this was a very sympathetic story

00:13:05.420 written in defense of Freeland.

00:13:08.060 Let me quote what Reuters Next was supposed to be.

00:13:12.100 Reuters wanted to take its massive pool

00:13:14.040 of resources and journalists from across the world

00:13:16.080 and turn their wire services

00:13:17.540 into a digital product

00:13:19.560 with seamless multimedia integration,

00:13:23.360 a stream of information.

00:13:26.520 People familiar with the project had high hopes,

00:13:28.680 and initial media reports gave it rave reviews.

00:13:31.500 It wasn't just a redesign.

00:13:33.040 They said it was supposed to

00:13:34.060 totally change Reuters' digital product

00:13:36.440 and make it the number one news organization

00:13:38.380 in the world.

00:13:38.760 It sounds like how Christia Freeland talks, actually.

00:13:43.660 In fact, I bet she was the anonymous source

00:13:45.420 in this story, praising herself.

00:13:48.080 But my point is how jargony

00:13:49.840 and buzzwordy that was.

00:13:52.440 What does any of it actually mean in real life?

00:13:54.600 High hopes, rave reviews,

00:13:56.400 seamless multimedia integration,

00:13:58.680 a stream of information.

00:14:00.300 What does that mean?

00:14:01.240 I work in the media,

00:14:02.000 but I don't even know what that means.

00:14:03.020 If someone were to say

00:14:03.740 they were going to do that for me,

00:14:05.080 I'd say, okay, can you tell me

00:14:05.840 what you're going to actually do?

00:14:08.340 Would you spend $20 million

00:14:10.380 on someone who just kept saying

00:14:12.160 cool phrases like that over and over again

00:14:14.480 and say the word tipping point?

00:14:15.680 We're at a tipping point.

00:14:16.440 We're at a tipping point.

00:14:17.180 That's her favorite phrase.

00:14:18.760 That story sounds exactly like

00:14:21.340 any Christia Freeland foreign policy speech.

00:14:24.260 Just word salad.

00:14:25.980 Random combinations of things

00:14:27.480 that sound really futuristic and with it.

00:14:31.400 Seamless integration, multilateral.

00:14:33.660 Like just, do you ever say anything?

00:14:36.840 I'll never get tired of this image

00:14:38.420 of Christia Freeland

00:14:39.180 and her NAFTA renegotiation team.

00:14:41.800 Oh, what a laugh.

00:14:43.000 Look at them.

00:14:44.240 Oh, it's gorgeous.

00:14:46.080 The thing about foreign affairs

00:14:47.060 is that, I hate to say it to you,

00:14:49.040 it's an old person's game.

00:14:50.720 And what I really mean

00:14:51.380 is an old man's game.

00:14:52.240 I'm sorry that's whose game it is.

00:14:53.480 Because you have to know

00:14:54.660 details, history, culture, events, incidents.

00:14:58.480 You need a corporate memory.

00:14:59.680 You need to have been around

00:15:00.680 in the last war,

00:15:02.080 in the war before that.

00:15:02.800 You need to know

00:15:03.440 how things were

00:15:04.200 in the last administration.

00:15:05.600 And what were things

00:15:06.600 like under Nixon?

00:15:07.480 And what did Pierre Trudeau try?

00:15:08.960 What was tried

00:15:09.520 and what didn't work?

00:15:10.140 You need to be old.

00:15:11.720 You need to be old.

00:15:14.660 Having some super hip kids

00:15:16.140 who are up to date

00:15:16.920 with the latest Twitter

00:15:17.800 or Instagram

00:15:18.620 or TikTok

00:15:19.620 really doesn't help you

00:15:21.320 negotiate with China

00:15:22.480 or with Trump's trade negotiator,

00:15:24.300 does it?

00:15:25.460 That team of millennials

00:15:26.720 looks exactly like,

00:15:28.580 I imagine,

00:15:29.480 Freeland's team at Reuters next

00:15:30.980 would have looked.

00:15:32.160 At least in Reuters,

00:15:33.000 they only burnt through

00:15:33.760 $20 million of private money.

00:15:35.860 They didn't cause Canadians 1.00

00:15:36.840 to be kidnapped

00:15:37.560 by the Chinese dictators,

00:15:39.120 for example.

00:15:40.020 Here's how Reuters,

00:15:40.980 sorry,

00:15:41.280 here's how Forbes

00:15:42.000 covered the shutdown

00:15:43.080 of Christian Freeland's project.

00:15:45.240 Reuters next.

00:15:46.180 Anatomy of a multi-million dollar misfire.

00:15:48.980 Let me read the opening lines.

00:15:50.380 And you tell me

00:15:51.000 if this couldn't be said

00:15:51.960 word for word

00:15:52.820 about Freeland's track record

00:15:54.100 as foreign minister.

00:15:56.380 What kind of company

00:15:57.460 spends millions of dollars

00:15:58.520 developing a product

00:15:59.380 it's not sure it wants

00:16:00.640 or needs?

00:16:01.760 Thomson Reuters,

00:16:02.660 apparently.

00:16:04.460 The backstory behind

00:16:05.460 its decision to scrap

00:16:06.500 two years of development work

00:16:07.700 on a new version

00:16:08.560 of its consumer-facing website

00:16:10.760 is a classic one

00:16:12.120 of corporate dysfunction,

00:16:14.380 neglect,

00:16:15.040 and diffusion

00:16:15.880 of responsibility,

00:16:17.020 according to several insiders

00:16:18.120 who were close

00:16:18.640 to the project.

00:16:19.900 Here's how the CBC

00:16:20.860 reported it.

00:16:22.400 They said,

00:16:23.900 Liberal hopeful

00:16:24.420 Christian Freeland

00:16:25.120 oversaw loss

00:16:25.980 of media jobs,

00:16:27.540 campaigning on platform

00:16:28.440 of restoring middle class.

00:16:29.380 Freeland oversaw

00:16:29.980 a decision to move

00:16:30.660 jobs to India.

00:16:32.040 That's a little more interesting,

00:16:33.560 but as usual,

00:16:34.400 journalists are obsessed

00:16:35.300 with journalists.

00:16:36.820 But, you know,

00:16:37.320 this is interesting.

00:16:38.280 The December 2011 move

00:16:39.580 put about 25 Toronto staff

00:16:41.180 under Freeland's supervision

00:16:42.160 out of work,

00:16:43.100 including 17 permanent

00:16:44.320 and five temporary

00:16:45.320 unionized employees.

00:16:46.860 Now, I don't care that much.

00:16:48.980 I don't care as much

00:16:50.380 about that as the CBC does

00:16:51.560 because they just love journalists.

00:16:52.660 But it does go

00:16:53.980 to the globalism

00:16:54.860 of Freeland and Trudeau

00:16:56.540 outsourcing jobs

00:16:57.420 to foreign countries.

00:16:58.440 Importing cheap domestic,

00:17:00.300 cheap foreign labor

00:17:01.180 at home.

00:17:03.500 But let me tell you

00:17:05.020 what BuzzFeed report,

00:17:06.680 I showed you Forbes,

00:17:07.620 I showed you Politico,

00:17:11.420 because although BuzzFeed

00:17:12.480 is partisan and leftist

00:17:13.700 and has anti-Trump

00:17:14.660 derangement syndrome,

00:17:15.840 and I'm skeptical of them,

00:17:16.860 this report on Freeland

00:17:18.180 has been unchallenged by her.

00:17:21.660 How Chrystia Freeland

00:17:22.940 hastened Reuters'

00:17:24.440 next demise.

00:17:26.720 There's a lot of

00:17:27.180 interesting things here.

00:17:27.880 I'm going to read it to you.

00:17:28.700 Ready?

00:17:29.680 The dynamo who left Reuters

00:17:30.960 to run for a seat

00:17:31.660 in Canada's parliament

00:17:32.320 was both the motivating force

00:17:33.600 behind the wire service's

00:17:34.840 ambitious digital revamp

00:17:36.360 and one of the primary reasons

00:17:38.540 it was killed,

00:17:39.840 current and former employees

00:17:40.840 tell BuzzFeed.

00:17:42.000 Oh, is there anything

00:17:43.720 we might learn,

00:17:44.880 we might glean from this,

00:17:47.020 about how she operates

00:17:48.340 as foreign minister?

00:17:50.580 It is exactly the same thing.

00:17:52.760 Let me read it.

00:17:53.260 Freeland basically tried

00:17:54.420 to build this thing

00:17:55.320 outside of the entire operation,

00:17:57.160 says a former Reuters employee.

00:17:58.980 She had very little contact

00:18:00.120 with the newsroom itself.

00:18:02.380 So Freeland started as a journalist

00:18:04.000 and then she just hired 0.99

00:18:05.180 all her friends.

00:18:06.220 Let me quote.

00:18:07.160 She quickly set about

00:18:08.060 remaking it in her own image.

00:18:09.860 She promoted Jim Ledbetter,

00:18:11.420 then editor of Reuters.com,

00:18:12.580 to edit the section,

00:18:13.520 appointed longtime Reuters veteran

00:18:14.920 Ken Lee to replace Ledbetter,

00:18:16.500 and brought on Ryan McCarthy

00:18:17.880 from the Huffington Post

00:18:18.700 to be her deputy.

00:18:19.580 For her deputy,

00:18:20.680 she hired Jim Impoco,

00:18:21.960 who had edited

00:18:22.620 the New York Times

00:18:23.240 Sunday business section

00:18:24.140 and was an enterprise reporter

00:18:25.640 at Reuters.

00:18:26.580 Freeland next went on

00:18:27.340 a hiring spree,

00:18:28.920 bringing in big names

00:18:29.760 with big contracts

00:18:30.840 to write for this section,

00:18:32.000 such as former

00:18:32.500 New York Times reporters

00:18:33.400 David Cray Johnston,

00:18:36.420 Larry Summers,

00:18:37.160 and slight media critic

00:18:38.020 Jack Schaefer.

00:18:38.820 Okay, now I know

00:18:39.400 this sounds like

00:18:40.060 a lot of gossip,

00:18:42.060 but how you operate

00:18:43.680 in an organization,

00:18:44.620 how you listen to others,

00:18:45.740 how you learn

00:18:46.480 from other people

00:18:47.060 who might know more

00:18:47.720 than you,

00:18:48.160 how you hire and fire,

00:18:49.260 I think it's relevant

00:18:50.060 to anything,

00:18:52.320 including how to run

00:18:53.060 a department.

00:18:53.480 Let me quote some more.

00:18:54.600 After Freeland committed

00:18:55.940 to Reuters next,

00:18:57.040 she set about clearing out

00:18:58.340 many existing

00:18:59.180 Thompson Reuters employees

00:19:00.200 to make room

00:19:00.760 for her own people.

00:19:02.000 Between Reuters.com employees

00:19:03.360 and people brought on

00:19:04.460 to Reuters next,

00:19:05.280 around 60 people

00:19:06.280 were working under Freeland,

00:19:07.520 and that's not including

00:19:08.200 the consultants she hired.

00:19:11.440 People who actually run things,

00:19:14.000 I'm not talking about

00:19:14.540 journalists now,

00:19:15.280 I'm talking about managers,

00:19:16.280 businessmen,

00:19:16.680 people who know

00:19:17.700 how to do things,

00:19:19.200 they were all shot out

00:19:20.580 because she knew better.

00:19:22.940 Here, let me read this.

00:19:25.380 Activate,

00:19:26.480 the media consulting firm

00:19:28.060 run by former McKinsey

00:19:29.220 and MTV executive

00:19:30.600 Michael Wolff,

00:19:31.600 was hired to work

00:19:32.780 on Reuters next in 2011

00:19:34.020 and started working

00:19:35.020 with vendors in January

00:19:36.020 when the Reuters next

00:19:37.160 onto the eighth floor

00:19:39.940 of the lavish

00:19:40.760 Thompson Reuters headquarters

00:19:42.040 in Times Square

00:19:43.020 and October 2012

00:19:44.420 launch date

00:19:44.960 for Reuters next

00:19:45.580 was sent.

00:19:46.720 The project decided

00:19:47.600 against using

00:19:48.200 any internal resources.

00:19:50.200 The belief was

00:19:50.800 that they were mired

00:19:51.540 in bureaucracy

00:19:52.060 and they were not

00:19:52.980 the team to build

00:19:53.520 a new vision for editorial.

00:19:55.700 The current Reuters employee

00:19:56.940 said,

00:19:58.660 you know,

00:19:58.900 I think that's exactly

00:19:59.900 what Freeland

00:20:01.400 and Trudeau did

00:20:02.320 at Foreign Affairs.

00:20:03.300 You saw how happy

00:20:04.160 they were to meet Trudeau.

00:20:06.320 I think that Freeland

00:20:07.400 and Trudeau

00:20:08.460 and Gerald Butts

00:20:09.100 think that they're so smart

00:20:10.980 they don't need to ask

00:20:12.200 lifelong career diplomats

00:20:13.260 who do things.

00:20:14.100 Instead,

00:20:14.680 they have their own circles

00:20:16.780 and I'll show you

00:20:17.280 this website in a second.

00:20:18.620 I mean,

00:20:19.040 how do you negotiate

00:20:19.840 trade deals,

00:20:21.020 for example?

00:20:22.820 Maybe you talk to the experts

00:20:23.880 who have done it before.

00:20:24.500 I mean, Freeland herself

00:20:25.160 was the lead negotiator.

00:20:27.200 We had a grown woman

00:20:28.060 who had to have her dad 0.99

00:20:29.440 co-sign her mortgage

00:20:30.320 when she moved back

00:20:31.420 to Toronto from New York.

00:20:32.720 I'm not making fun of that.

00:20:33.920 A lot of people

00:20:34.340 can't afford a mortgage

00:20:35.120 on their own

00:20:35.520 but maybe she's not exactly

00:20:36.980 the absolutely best person

00:20:37.960 in the country

00:20:38.340 to negotiate

00:20:38.800 the most important trade deal

00:20:39.820 in our country

00:20:40.680 with her dream team

00:20:41.700 of hip kids.

00:20:42.600 Now,

00:20:43.000 at Reuters,

00:20:43.660 all they burned up

00:20:44.360 was money

00:20:44.900 and I don't care

00:20:45.740 because I don't care

00:20:46.420 about Reuters

00:20:46.780 but imagine this woman 0.91

00:20:47.960 working with tax dollars.

00:20:49.180 Let me quote a bit

00:20:49.780 but throw that website

00:20:50.760 back up for a second.

00:20:52.060 The last one there.

00:20:53.900 Canada 2020

00:20:54.660 was the in

00:20:55.660 this one here.

00:20:57.040 This is the private

00:20:58.020 think tank

00:20:58.640 of Trudeau

00:20:59.540 and Gerald Butts.

00:21:00.260 It's called

00:21:00.500 Canada 2020

00:21:01.240 and it's

00:21:02.060 they even boast

00:21:03.300 it's where all

00:21:04.280 the real policy

00:21:05.340 in Canada

00:21:05.880 are made.

00:21:06.680 I put it to you

00:21:07.540 that Christia Freeland

00:21:08.420 and Justin Trudeau

00:21:09.740 and Gerald Butts

00:21:10.480 have their own friends

00:21:12.180 and pals

00:21:13.200 and experts

00:21:14.240 making the decisions

00:21:15.720 and all those happy

00:21:16.480 clappers

00:21:17.000 at foreign affairs

00:21:17.880 were shut out

00:21:18.820 and they are saying

00:21:19.780 what are you doing?

00:21:21.440 That's my theory.

00:21:22.620 Okay,

00:21:22.740 let me quote a little bit

00:21:23.360 more from BuzzFeed.

00:21:24.040 Ready?

00:21:25.920 Costs steadily rose

00:21:27.640 with new hires

00:21:28.940 and payments

00:21:29.440 to vendors

00:21:29.880 and consultants

00:21:30.600 as the project

00:21:31.720 dragged on

00:21:32.420 and the launch date

00:21:33.240 was continually postponed.

00:21:35.080 While earlier articles

00:21:36.140 estimated the cost

00:21:36.980 at around $5 million

00:21:37.960 sources close

00:21:39.160 to the project

00:21:39.600 said that actual figure

00:21:40.640 was three to four times

00:21:42.040 that amount

00:21:42.560 or between 15

00:21:43.460 and 20 million dollars.

00:21:44.840 Moreover,

00:21:45.160 the first former

00:21:45.740 Reuters employee

00:21:46.460 said that Activate

00:21:47.660 itself was paid

00:21:48.460 $300,000 a month.

00:21:51.500 Okay,

00:21:52.400 now here,

00:21:52.980 read all this

00:21:53.700 and instead of managers

00:21:54.840 replace it with

00:21:55.980 people who actually

00:21:57.120 know something

00:21:57.600 about China,

00:21:58.160 India,

00:21:58.460 Saudi Arabia,

00:21:59.680 trade negotiations

00:22:00.340 with Trump

00:22:00.820 or anyone else.

00:22:01.820 Ready?

00:22:02.060 Listen to this.

00:22:03.880 Further,

00:22:04.560 of the new employees

00:22:05.260 brought in

00:22:05.760 on the editorial

00:22:06.660 and technical side,

00:22:07.860 none had been

00:22:08.480 at Reuters long enough

00:22:09.600 to know what the experience

00:22:10.700 of being a Reuters journalist

00:22:11.580 was like.

00:22:12.560 They had all quit

00:22:13.180 or gotten fired

00:22:14.020 so it's said.

00:22:15.100 Okay,

00:22:15.300 now I've read too much

00:22:16.080 but let me just

00:22:16.660 close with this.

00:22:18.840 When the preview

00:22:19.840 and beta

00:22:20.540 of Reuters next

00:22:21.440 launched earlier

00:22:22.100 this year

00:22:22.500 after multiple delays,

00:22:23.860 the front end

00:22:24.340 was admirably slick

00:22:25.800 delivering on the promise

00:22:27.240 of a stream of content

00:22:28.560 based around one story

00:22:29.720 that brings a material

00:22:30.480 from all of Reuters

00:22:31.760 and outside sources.

00:22:32.880 It impressed

00:22:33.580 the Reuters board

00:22:34.320 and outside critics

00:22:35.380 like Neiman Lab

00:22:36.140 but the improvements

00:22:37.340 were a little more

00:22:38.260 than a digital mirage.

00:22:40.280 Behind the scenes,

00:22:41.620 none of it worked.

00:22:44.380 We ended up

00:22:45.360 working on a system

00:22:46.440 that was even worse

00:22:47.420 than the legacy system

00:22:48.580 the Reuters insider said

00:22:49.920 adding that to the board

00:22:51.280 and the rest of the world

00:22:52.100 it looked like

00:22:53.060 a functioning website.

00:22:56.640 Why am I telling you

00:22:57.520 about that?

00:22:59.740 Because Christia Freeland

00:23:00.800 doesn't actually know

00:23:01.780 how to do anything.

00:23:03.560 How to run anything.

00:23:05.080 How to fix anything.

00:23:06.340 How to listen to people

00:23:07.460 who know more than her.

00:23:08.540 How to work with a team.

00:23:10.220 How to tap into expertise.

00:23:12.080 Christia Freeland

00:23:13.140 doesn't know

00:23:14.560 how to do anything

00:23:16.280 except be at Chatterbox.

00:23:19.700 Go on pundits panels

00:23:20.700 on TV

00:23:21.120 preen for the cameras.

00:23:22.200 She loves going

00:23:22.780 on TV talk shows.

00:23:24.140 She even still

00:23:24.740 goes on some of them.

00:23:25.960 Now that she's a foreign minister

00:23:27.180 like this show

00:23:30.080 that she did.

00:23:30.660 She was already 0.80

00:23:31.100 a liberal

00:23:31.580 back in Canada

00:23:33.040 as she was about

00:23:33.500 to run for office.

00:23:34.020 This is a quick clip.

00:23:35.320 I mean,

00:23:35.680 here's your foreign minister

00:23:36.780 really showing

00:23:38.180 that diplomatic edge.

00:23:39.240 Take a look.

00:23:39.560 Okay, so the problem

00:23:41.120 with Islam is

00:23:42.180 most of your show

00:23:43.620 pointing out

00:23:44.400 the dumbness

00:23:45.120 of Americans.

00:23:47.480 Yeah.

00:23:48.060 Not very diplomatic.

00:23:49.120 Not very grown up.

00:23:49.920 But hey,

00:23:50.240 she's got pep and spunk 1.00

00:23:51.560 and she's a feminist. 1.00

00:23:52.840 Well, you know what?

00:23:54.300 Reuters Next

00:23:54.900 was a $20 million

00:23:57.320 disaster.

00:23:59.860 Hundreds of people

00:24:01.220 lost their jobs

00:24:02.340 because of her.

00:24:04.500 A company's

00:24:05.260 strategic plan

00:24:06.140 was cratered.

00:24:07.880 It was a blunder.

00:24:10.560 Normally an executive

00:24:11.680 responsible for such

00:24:12.540 a meltdown

00:24:13.040 would go into

00:24:13.840 the wilderness

00:24:14.340 for a bit.

00:24:15.220 Maybe do some reflecting.

00:24:17.200 Maybe just go away

00:24:18.940 like Kim Campbell

00:24:20.320 did for a while.

00:24:22.120 Not Christy Freeland.

00:24:23.540 She failed upward

00:24:24.700 the Trudeau way.

00:24:26.580 Justin Trudeau

00:24:27.100 liked the cut

00:24:27.660 of her jib

00:24:28.280 and put her in charge

00:24:30.420 of one of the most

00:24:30.900 important files

00:24:31.520 in our country.

00:24:32.460 And she has gone

00:24:33.240 about wrecking

00:24:34.320 everything.

00:24:35.640 One country at a time.

00:24:36.980 Just like at Reuters.

00:24:38.140 Except at Reuters

00:24:38.940 they had a stop loss.

00:24:41.700 $20 million

00:24:42.380 into it

00:24:43.020 someone stepped in

00:24:44.460 and said

00:24:44.700 enough.

00:24:45.920 We're not throwing

00:24:46.660 good money

00:24:47.260 after bad.

00:24:48.440 Here we are

00:24:49.640 with China

00:24:52.180 taking our citizens

00:24:53.680 hostage.

00:24:54.920 Trudeau

00:24:55.340 unwelcome

00:24:56.060 in India.

00:24:57.220 Saudi Arabia

00:24:57.860 on the war path.

00:24:59.140 Donald Trump

00:24:59.640 eating our lunch

00:25:00.420 with tariffs

00:25:01.180 and trade restrictions.

00:25:02.660 Trudeau

00:25:03.060 alienating

00:25:03.900 the new president

00:25:04.620 of Brazil

00:25:05.260 Jair Bolsonaro

00:25:06.000 refusing to even

00:25:07.460 congratulate him

00:25:08.380 on his historic win.

00:25:09.540 Country after country

00:25:10.580 and you have to ask

00:25:11.940 just how far

00:25:14.260 will she be allowed

00:25:15.320 to wreck

00:25:16.080 our foreign relations

00:25:17.880 before we fire her? 1.00

00:25:20.780 Is there any limit?

00:25:23.940 Stay with us

00:25:24.600 for more on this

00:25:25.460 with Lillian Gunter.

00:25:26.500 I think

00:25:40.900 she has quite

00:25:42.180 good arguments

00:25:43.020 on her side.

00:25:44.700 One

00:25:45.260 political involvement

00:25:46.820 by comments

00:25:48.220 from Donald Trump

00:25:49.220 in her case.

00:25:50.860 Two

00:25:51.360 there's an

00:25:52.080 extraterritorial

00:25:53.400 aspect to her

00:25:54.560 case.

00:25:58.420 And three

00:25:59.160 there's the

00:26:00.060 issue of

00:26:00.860 Iran sanctions

00:26:01.860 which are involved

00:26:02.860 in her case

00:26:03.680 and Canada

00:26:04.740 does not

00:26:05.460 sign on

00:26:06.800 to these

00:26:07.240 Iran sanctions.

00:26:08.360 So I think

00:26:08.920 she has some

00:26:09.640 strong arguments

00:26:10.480 that she can make

00:26:12.000 before a judge.

00:26:13.500 That is John McCallum

00:26:15.060 until a few days ago

00:26:16.260 Canada's ambassador

00:26:17.580 to China

00:26:18.780 at a very special

00:26:20.280 Chinese media

00:26:21.180 only press conference

00:26:22.700 last week.

00:26:23.160 a 40 minute

00:26:23.780 press conference

00:26:24.440 and only

00:26:25.840 mainland Chinese

00:26:27.260 media

00:26:27.760 and Canadian

00:26:28.800 Chinese media

00:26:29.620 were invited.

00:26:30.200 He spoke

00:26:30.520 for 40 minutes

00:26:31.300 making the case

00:26:32.760 against Canada

00:26:34.080 and certainly

00:26:34.920 the case

00:26:35.420 against America

00:26:36.500 very clearly.

00:26:38.500 He later

00:26:39.100 said he

00:26:39.520 misspoke

00:26:40.240 as apparently

00:26:41.500 one does

00:26:42.140 for 40 minutes

00:26:43.080 and then he

00:26:43.920 misspoke again

00:26:44.560 and Trudeau

00:26:44.940 finally sacked him.

00:26:47.220 What is the state

00:26:47.980 of Canada

00:26:48.640 Chinese relations?

00:26:50.480 China

00:26:50.740 the country

00:26:51.120 that Justin Trudeau

00:26:51.780 once said

00:26:52.140 was his favorite

00:26:53.020 regime.

00:26:55.240 Well let me

00:26:55.600 read to you

00:26:55.980 from Global Times

00:26:56.980 an official

00:26:57.720 mouthpiece

00:26:58.240 of the Chinese

00:26:58.840 Communist Party.

00:27:00.060 Here's their

00:27:00.580 very undiplomatic

00:27:01.580 language

00:27:01.960 and you're going

00:27:02.340 to be shocked

00:27:02.780 by this

00:27:03.140 but I want

00:27:03.460 to tell you

00:27:03.820 how far

00:27:04.160 things have

00:27:05.240 sunk.

00:27:06.040 This is in

00:27:06.460 yesterday's

00:27:06.900 Global Times

00:27:07.360 they said

00:27:07.720 they said

00:27:07.740 as the Chinese

00:27:08.400 folk saying

00:27:08.900 goes

00:27:09.160 you cannot

00:27:09.920 live the

00:27:10.320 life of

00:27:10.640 a whore 1.00

00:27:11.180 and expect

00:27:11.960 a monument

00:27:12.560 to your

00:27:12.980 chastity. 0.99

00:27:13.940 Just incredible

00:27:14.920 the diplomatic

00:27:16.160 incident here

00:27:17.240 as Charles

00:27:17.720 Burton

00:27:17.940 former diplomat

00:27:18.680 says

00:27:19.020 the lowest

00:27:19.940 point in

00:27:20.400 Canada

00:27:20.740 Chinese

00:27:21.220 relations

00:27:21.820 ever.

00:27:23.740 And joining

00:27:23.980 us now

00:27:24.400 to talk

00:27:24.820 about the

00:27:25.180 disaster

00:27:25.620 is our

00:27:26.380 friend

00:27:26.540 Lauren

00:27:26.700 Gunter

00:27:27.000 senior

00:27:27.320 columnist

00:27:27.800 with the

00:27:28.120 Edmonton Sun

00:27:28.660 great to see

00:27:29.100 you again

00:27:29.340 Lauren.

00:27:30.100 Good to see

00:27:30.660 you.

00:27:30.920 I wish

00:27:31.180 I could get

00:27:31.640 away with

00:27:32.000 lines like

00:27:32.600 that in

00:27:33.000 my column.

00:27:34.560 Oh yeah

00:27:35.400 I mean

00:27:35.960 and Global

00:27:36.720 Times

00:27:37.200 really has

00:27:38.160 been the

00:27:38.500 official

00:27:38.840 mouthpiece

00:27:39.320 for the

00:27:39.600 Communist

00:27:39.900 Party

00:27:40.200 so this

00:27:40.580 isn't just

00:27:41.040 some op-ed

00:27:42.000 writer

00:27:42.340 and who

00:27:42.740 cares

00:27:42.980 this is

00:27:43.540 really

00:27:43.760 China

00:27:44.140 speaking

00:27:44.540 bluntly

00:27:44.960 to us.

00:27:45.700 And there

00:27:46.820 was another

00:27:47.420 semi-official

00:27:48.860 Chinese

00:27:50.060 outlet

00:27:50.460 this past

00:27:51.560 week

00:27:51.800 that said

00:27:52.300 this

00:27:53.720 incident

00:27:54.580 had caused

00:27:55.180 Canadians

00:27:55.640 to be

00:27:56.060 in revolt

00:27:57.060 against

00:27:57.500 their stupid

00:27:58.280 government.

00:27:59.400 I only

00:28:00.200 wish that

00:28:00.720 were true

00:28:01.260 but they

00:28:02.500 are obviously

00:28:03.380 very enraged

00:28:04.800 about all

00:28:05.320 of this

00:28:05.660 and McCallum's

00:28:07.300 ill-advised

00:28:10.500 use of

00:28:11.240 all of

00:28:13.100 these

00:28:13.440 statements

00:28:14.200 has only

00:28:15.160 made things

00:28:15.660 worse.

00:28:16.300 I mean

00:28:16.500 Trudeau did

00:28:17.400 have to

00:28:17.900 let him

00:28:18.300 go.

00:28:19.460 Whether or

00:28:20.300 not you

00:28:20.640 think John

00:28:21.220 McCallum's

00:28:21.820 right that

00:28:22.800 Ming Wan

00:28:23.920 Jiu has 0.87

00:28:24.620 a good

00:28:25.380 case against

00:28:26.900 the expedition

00:28:27.360 to the United

00:28:27.740 States I

00:28:28.060 don't think

00:28:28.320 she does.

00:28:28.960 But say

00:28:30.260 you agree

00:28:30.700 with him.

00:28:31.460 Even that

00:28:32.200 he still

00:28:33.000 had to

00:28:33.320 be let

00:28:33.620 go because

00:28:34.160 he clearly

00:28:35.280 had compromised

00:28:36.220 his usefulness

00:28:38.240 as Canada's

00:28:39.780 representative

00:28:40.440 to China

00:28:41.200 and he

00:28:41.840 was looking

00:28:42.300 far more

00:28:42.980 like China's 0.99

00:28:43.900 representative

00:28:44.500 to Canada.

00:28:46.080 In the clip

00:28:47.580 that you

00:28:48.100 showed there

00:28:48.640 from the

00:28:49.100 40 minute

00:28:49.780 Chinese

00:28:51.360 language only

00:28:52.640 press conference

00:28:53.480 he also

00:28:54.220 refers to

00:28:54.920 himself

00:28:55.400 by his

00:28:56.780 Chinese name.

00:28:58.700 His wife

00:28:59.160 is Chinese

00:28:59.980 and that

00:29:01.620 immaterial

00:29:02.460 to this

00:29:03.160 except that

00:29:04.320 it's very

00:29:04.960 clear I

00:29:05.700 think that

00:29:06.380 McCallum

00:29:07.040 adopting a

00:29:08.180 Chinese name

00:29:08.920 saying that

00:29:09.580 he's proud

00:29:10.580 that he's

00:29:10.960 visited nearly

00:29:11.600 every province

00:29:12.440 of China

00:29:12.960 he's nearly

00:29:13.540 fluent now

00:29:14.380 in Mandarin

00:29:15.040 I think

00:29:17.200 there were

00:29:17.680 these cases

00:29:18.300 back in

00:29:18.920 the 19th

00:29:19.980 century where

00:29:20.620 the British

00:29:21.380 would send

00:29:21.940 out some

00:29:22.640 earl's second

00:29:23.580 son to

00:29:25.160 be the

00:29:25.640 governor of

00:29:26.700 territory in

00:29:28.260 the empire

00:29:28.800 that no one

00:29:29.360 really cared

00:29:29.940 about and

00:29:30.780 they'd be there

00:29:31.300 for years

00:29:31.840 without much

00:29:32.420 contact with

00:29:33.420 the foreign 0.60

00:29:34.280 office in

00:29:35.000 London or

00:29:35.520 with the

00:29:35.880 Royal Navy

00:29:36.560 or anything

00:29:36.880 like that

00:29:37.200 and when

00:29:37.820 someone would

00:29:38.300 finally show

00:29:38.840 up they'd

00:29:39.540 send back a

00:29:40.140 dispatch that

00:29:40.880 so and so

00:29:42.340 had gone

00:29:42.840 native

00:29:43.180 and I

00:29:44.220 think that

00:29:44.960 John McCallum

00:29:46.060 had gone

00:29:46.400 native

00:29:46.660 he's far

00:29:47.500 more interested

00:29:48.780 in China's

00:29:49.540 argument than

00:29:50.320 the American

00:29:50.860 argument or

00:29:51.400 the Canadian

00:29:52.000 argument and

00:29:53.200 as a result

00:29:54.100 I don't see

00:29:55.060 where Trudeau

00:29:55.440 had any

00:29:56.100 option but

00:29:56.840 to let him

00:29:57.240 go

00:29:57.480 yeah you

00:29:58.360 know there's

00:29:58.720 a tradition

00:29:59.200 amongst

00:29:59.640 modern diplomatic

00:30:01.240 corps to

00:30:01.840 rotate people

00:30:03.060 through offices

00:30:03.740 precisely to

00:30:05.120 avoid that

00:30:05.720 going native

00:30:06.280 because diplomats

00:30:07.800 are humans

00:30:08.520 too and they

00:30:09.060 want to be

00:30:09.560 loved and

00:30:10.320 they want

00:30:10.780 to be

00:30:11.320 respected

00:30:12.020 and well

00:30:12.500 received

00:30:12.880 and so you

00:30:13.660 start to

00:30:14.060 take the

00:30:14.480 side of

00:30:16.000 the local

00:30:16.340 population

00:30:16.980 and that

00:30:17.520 you want

00:30:17.880 to be

00:30:18.100 friendly but

00:30:18.620 at the

00:30:18.860 end of

00:30:19.080 the day

00:30:19.480 you are

00:30:20.320 the agent

00:30:21.120 for Canada

00:30:22.380 there you're

00:30:23.260 the lawyer

00:30:23.860 for Canada

00:30:25.240 so to speak

00:30:25.860 you can't

00:30:26.380 start to say

00:30:26.860 well I see

00:30:27.460 the other

00:30:27.760 side of the

00:30:28.200 story that's

00:30:28.860 the time to

00:30:29.240 rotate you

00:30:29.720 Lauren I've

00:30:31.160 got nothing

00:30:31.540 against the

00:30:32.020 guy who's

00:30:32.480 really trying

00:30:33.120 to ingratiate

00:30:34.140 but that

00:30:35.780 ingratiation has

00:30:36.700 to be to

00:30:37.220 promote Canada's 0.58

00:30:38.700 interest let me

00:30:39.300 show you a clip

00:30:39.780 I've shown this

00:30:40.600 before this

00:30:41.940 is when

00:30:44.300 McCallum

00:30:44.780 appeared before

00:30:45.340 a parliamentary

00:30:45.820 committee and

00:30:46.400 this was about

00:30:46.920 this was before

00:30:47.820 these troubled

00:30:48.380 times when

00:30:49.560 Trudeau and

00:30:50.080 McCallum were

00:30:50.600 trying to start

00:30:51.140 negotiating a

00:30:52.020 trade deal

00:30:53.060 and basically

00:30:54.320 McCallum was

00:30:54.980 asked what is

00:30:55.460 your negotiating

00:30:56.080 position and

00:30:57.840 this is what he

00:30:59.620 said here take a

00:31:00.300 quick look at

00:31:00.740 this

00:31:01.060 within 24 hours

00:31:02.840 of arriving in

00:31:03.660 China I was

00:31:04.460 invited to

00:31:05.180 present my

00:31:06.420 credentials to

00:31:07.820 President Xi

00:31:08.720 Jinping and I

00:31:10.280 conveyed to him

00:31:11.040 a message from

00:31:11.740 our Prime

00:31:12.200 Minister that

00:31:13.340 can be summarized

00:31:14.260 in three words

00:31:15.180 more more more

00:31:17.020 or in Mandarin

00:31:18.540 and congrats

00:31:19.280 and congrats

00:31:19.880 and congrats

00:31:20.700 yeah you know

00:31:23.120 the Chinese have 1.00

00:31:23.740 been negotiating

00:31:24.400 for 5,000 years

00:31:26.240 they are masters

00:31:27.620 of diplomacy

00:31:28.480 and I'm guessing

00:31:29.660 Lauren I mean I'm

00:31:30.400 not the master of

00:31:31.740 the art of the deal

00:31:32.300 but I'm guessing

00:31:32.980 starting out by

00:31:34.180 saying to your

00:31:36.040 negotiating opponent

00:31:37.360 whatever you want

00:31:38.600 the answer is yes

00:31:39.500 and more

00:31:40.180 I'm guessing

00:31:41.340 that's not going to

00:31:43.000 work against folks

00:31:43.960 who have been

00:31:44.220 negotiating since the

00:31:45.640 time of Sun Tzu

00:31:46.700 well and you know

00:31:48.200 I don't doubt

00:31:49.240 that we were

00:31:50.260 sending signals

00:31:51.640 to Beijing

00:31:52.680 that we were

00:31:54.420 happy to

00:31:55.440 help them

00:31:57.920 handle the

00:31:58.700 troubles they

00:31:59.500 were having

00:32:00.040 with the White

00:32:00.960 House for

00:32:01.580 instance and

00:32:02.520 now all of a

00:32:03.220 sudden the

00:32:04.040 Justice Department

00:32:05.140 asks us to

00:32:06.300 arrest this

00:32:07.040 Chinese executive

00:32:08.200 on suspicion

00:32:09.960 of fraud and

00:32:11.000 trying to get

00:32:11.580 around America's

00:32:13.160 sanctions against

00:32:13.980 Iran and Iran's 0.99

00:32:15.280 nuclear program

00:32:16.220 and they're

00:32:17.440 suddenly incensed

00:32:18.420 they think that

00:32:19.140 their little sock

00:32:20.780 puppet in Ottawa

00:32:22.900 is rebelling

00:32:24.540 and so they're

00:32:25.920 very angry about

00:32:26.820 that

00:32:27.060 it's a really

00:32:29.440 puzzling thing

00:32:30.480 though for me

00:32:31.160 because I think

00:32:31.980 this gets at a

00:32:33.860 broader issue

00:32:34.700 with the Trudeau

00:32:35.400 government

00:32:35.700 you remember

00:32:36.140 when right after

00:32:38.240 I think within

00:32:39.560 the first five

00:32:40.820 days of Trudeau

00:32:42.480 being elected

00:32:43.240 in 2015

00:32:44.020 he announced

00:32:45.600 to the world

00:32:46.640 that Canada

00:32:47.760 was back

00:32:48.520 and we were

00:32:49.640 going to engage

00:32:50.780 again as the

00:32:51.580 honest broker

00:32:52.440 and we weren't

00:32:53.040 going to be

00:32:53.540 like Harper

00:32:54.240 and be

00:32:55.360 the Americans

00:32:56.360 toady

00:32:57.100 and we weren't

00:32:58.000 going to engage

00:32:58.880 in wars

00:32:59.600 around the way

00:33:00.300 Canada was 0.81

00:33:01.260 going to be

00:33:01.880 what it had

00:33:02.360 always been

00:33:02.980 well what it

00:33:04.200 had been

00:33:04.500 since his

00:33:04.920 father

00:33:05.320 and that was

00:33:07.440 the Blue

00:33:07.900 Beret and

00:33:08.800 the aid group

00:33:10.200 and the NGO

00:33:10.980 and Canada

00:33:11.980 was back

00:33:12.280 I can't name

00:33:13.920 a single country

00:33:14.860 that we have

00:33:16.360 relations with

00:33:17.240 where the

00:33:18.400 relations are

00:33:18.960 better now

00:33:19.500 than they were

00:33:20.020 when Trudeau

00:33:20.520 took over

00:33:21.060 he's messed

00:33:22.180 up China

00:33:22.720 he's messed

00:33:23.300 up the United

00:33:23.800 States

00:33:24.100 he's messed

00:33:24.540 up Saudi

00:33:25.040 Arabia

00:33:25.580 he's messed

00:33:27.300 up everything

00:33:28.100 with Brazil

00:33:28.940 oh yeah

00:33:29.660 it just goes

00:33:30.380 on and on

00:33:31.200 and on

00:33:31.660 on the foreign

00:33:33.420 policy side

00:33:34.040 you remember

00:33:34.400 during the

00:33:35.560 North America

00:33:37.380 free trade

00:33:37.980 agreement

00:33:38.400 negotiations

00:33:39.540 last fall

00:33:40.680 most of

00:33:42.560 the media

00:33:43.200 fell all over

00:33:44.240 Chrystia Freeland

00:33:44.960 oh my goodness

00:33:45.980 she brings us

00:33:47.060 popsicles when

00:33:47.960 it's hot

00:33:48.500 and we're in

00:33:49.540 Washington

00:33:50.020 and she's so

00:33:51.060 smart and she's 0.72

00:33:51.960 so witty

00:33:52.440 and she's

00:33:52.820 I think

00:33:53.960 we got taken

00:33:55.280 and I don't

00:33:56.640 think that

00:33:57.100 Freeland is all

00:33:57.960 that good

00:33:59.060 as a foreign

00:34:00.460 affairs minister

00:34:01.200 and for sure

00:34:02.260 Justin Trudeau

00:34:03.340 is not very good

00:34:04.340 on foreign

00:34:05.120 relations

00:34:05.620 yeah

00:34:06.000 you know

00:34:07.020 you're right

00:34:07.400 and let me

00:34:07.760 throw in

00:34:08.280 India

00:34:08.900 into the mix

00:34:09.840 I mean so

00:34:10.240 China

00:34:10.600 most populous

00:34:11.920 country in the

00:34:12.440 world

00:34:12.660 soon to be

00:34:13.540 the biggest

00:34:13.880 economy in the

00:34:14.540 world if it's

00:34:14.940 not already

00:34:15.380 India

00:34:15.940 most big

00:34:16.960 biggest democracy

00:34:18.380 probably soon to

00:34:19.860 overtake China 0.94

00:34:20.640 in that regard

00:34:21.140 and it's part of

00:34:21.840 the British

00:34:22.200 Commonwealth

00:34:22.940 and there's a

00:34:23.860 lot of China

00:34:24.420 India

00:34:25.360 expats

00:34:27.080 here

00:34:27.240 I mean people

00:34:27.640 have moved

00:34:27.960 here

00:34:28.220 America

00:34:29.020 Brazil

00:34:29.640 Trudeau

00:34:30.840 wouldn't even

00:34:31.360 send out a

00:34:31.920 congratulations letter

00:34:33.040 to Jair Bolsonaro

00:34:33.860 mentioning him

00:34:34.600 by name

00:34:35.080 when he was

00:34:35.880 just elected

00:34:36.820 as president

00:34:37.300 recently

00:34:37.740 Trudeau would

00:34:38.480 not even say

00:34:39.060 his name

00:34:39.460 because he so

00:34:39.980 hates him

00:34:40.640 it's so weird

00:34:42.900 that these

00:34:43.300 and listen

00:34:44.440 the fact that

00:34:45.120 Chrystia Freeland

00:34:45.760 is banned

00:34:46.460 from traveling

00:34:47.400 to Russia

00:34:47.960 I'm not blaming

00:34:49.380 her for that

00:34:50.120 I would blame

00:34:51.000 Putin for that

00:34:51.680 but that goes

00:34:52.360 to the point

00:34:52.860 where's this

00:34:53.620 Canada's back 0.91

00:34:54.500 business

00:34:54.920 we're at the

00:34:56.020 back

00:34:56.340 Canada's at 0.73

00:34:57.120 the back

00:34:57.640 I can't

00:34:58.460 you're so right

00:34:59.380 on and

00:34:59.880 I don't know

00:35:01.140 anyone

00:35:01.440 even North Korea

00:35:02.900 I would joke

00:35:04.540 that at least

00:35:05.400 you know

00:35:06.680 Cuba

00:35:07.020 North Korea

00:35:07.740 Iran

00:35:08.340 but even

00:35:09.000 they

00:35:09.400 are not

00:35:10.300 doing anything

00:35:11.560 for us

00:35:12.260 given

00:35:12.620 Trudeau's

00:35:14.000 subservience

00:35:14.600 give you an

00:35:15.740 example of why

00:35:16.520 this is

00:35:16.920 practically

00:35:17.660 a problem

00:35:18.420 why this is

00:35:18.860 a problem

00:35:19.940 in a practical

00:35:20.640 thing

00:35:20.980 so we have

00:35:22.260 a Canadian

00:35:23.300 businessman

00:35:24.220 and a Canadian

00:35:25.020 diplomat

00:35:25.920 on leave

00:35:26.700 both of whom

00:35:28.500 were taken

00:35:30.060 by the Chinese

00:35:30.800 after we

00:35:31.500 arrested

00:35:31.860 Meng

00:35:32.300 and we

00:35:34.840 arrested Meng

00:35:35.600 on behalf

00:35:36.140 of the United

00:35:36.560 States

00:35:36.880 our relations

00:35:38.460 with the

00:35:38.800 Americans

00:35:39.120 are so bad

00:35:39.820 we have to

00:35:40.660 go big

00:35:41.200 around the

00:35:41.940 world

00:35:42.300 for other

00:35:43.080 countries

00:35:43.500 to come

00:35:43.920 to the

00:35:44.320 defense

00:35:44.620 of our

00:35:45.400 citizens

00:35:45.960 who have

00:35:46.420 been taken

00:35:46.880 in China

00:35:47.400 that's how

00:35:48.160 isolated

00:35:48.960 and remote

00:35:49.780 we are

00:35:50.400 in the

00:35:50.960 diplomatic

00:35:51.400 community

00:35:51.880 that's an

00:35:53.020 outstanding

00:35:53.320 point

00:35:53.620 and as

00:35:54.080 Lauren

00:35:54.280 mentioned

00:35:54.620 to me

00:35:54.880 a moment

00:35:55.160 ago

00:35:55.520 it's ironic

00:35:56.500 that we

00:35:56.940 have to

00:35:57.540 ask

00:35:58.320 every

00:35:58.740 country

00:35:59.180 around

00:35:59.520 the

00:35:59.720 world

00:35:59.960 to go

00:36:00.320 to bat

00:36:00.820 for us

00:36:01.360 with China

00:36:02.320 we can't

00:36:02.860 do it

00:36:03.140 ourselves

00:36:03.560 and for

00:36:04.260 some reason

00:36:04.680 other countries

00:36:05.340 don't feel

00:36:05.920 that compelled

00:36:06.820 to help

00:36:07.720 us out

00:36:08.060 and by us

00:36:08.600 out I mean

00:36:09.180 Justin Trudeau

00:36:10.460 well that's

00:36:10.800 our friend

00:36:11.080 Lauren

00:36:11.320 Gunter

00:36:11.680 from the

00:36:12.760 Edmonton

00:36:13.220 Sun

00:36:13.560 a great

00:36:14.380 advisor to

00:36:14.940 us on

00:36:15.240 so many

00:36:15.600 issues

00:36:15.980 stay with

00:36:16.700 us

00:36:17.020 more

00:36:17.720 ahead

00:36:17.880 on the

00:36:18.100 rebel

00:36:26.500 hey

00:36:29.540 welcome

00:36:29.720 back

00:36:29.940 on my

00:36:30.120 monologue

00:36:30.460 Friday

00:36:30.820 about the

00:36:31.160 Kingston

00:36:31.580 youth

00:36:31.960 that was

00:36:32.180 charged

00:36:32.440 with

00:36:32.580 terrorism

00:36:32.980 Paul

00:36:33.360 writes

00:36:33.820 no no

00:36:34.840 no no

00:36:35.100 no it

00:36:35.320 wasn't

00:36:35.620 terrorism

00:36:35.980 related

00:36:36.280 it was

00:36:36.600 clearly

00:36:36.920 toxic

00:36:37.800 masculinity

00:36:38.540 yeah I

00:36:39.420 don't know

00:36:39.660 what's going

00:36:40.000 on there

00:36:40.440 I mean

00:36:40.680 is there a

00:36:41.180 charge

00:36:41.560 or not

00:36:41.980 or it's

00:36:42.560 weird

00:36:43.100 released

00:36:43.740 I do

00:36:44.840 know one

00:36:45.200 thing

00:36:45.380 the RCMP

00:36:45.940 said 300

00:36:46.660 different

00:36:47.380 people were

00:36:48.200 involved in

00:36:48.680 the investigation

00:36:49.300 they had a

00:36:50.120 plane flying

00:36:50.820 overhead

00:36:51.200 for months

00:36:52.380 yeah I

00:36:54.320 think there's

00:36:54.680 a little bit

00:36:55.040 more there

00:36:55.500 than our

00:36:55.960 liberal bosses

00:36:56.660 will tell

00:36:57.680 us

00:36:58.240 Robert says

00:36:59.720 I'm surprised

00:37:00.820 the Bounties

00:37:01.280 found enough

00:37:01.700 time to

00:37:02.120 arrest this

00:37:02.560 guy

00:37:02.800 seeing how

00:37:03.420 they spend

00:37:03.720 so much

00:37:04.040 of their

00:37:04.220 time

00:37:04.500 as border

00:37:05.260 bellhops

00:37:06.060 yeah

00:37:06.740 yeah I

00:37:08.680 think that's

00:37:09.680 the thing

00:37:10.080 you will need

00:37:11.360 a wall of

00:37:12.200 some sort

00:37:12.720 you will need

00:37:13.140 a lock

00:37:13.600 on a door

00:37:14.280 somewhere

00:37:15.300 you'll need

00:37:16.280 bars

00:37:16.740 somewhere

00:37:17.300 either you

00:37:17.720 have it

00:37:18.120 surrounding

00:37:18.980 your country

00:37:19.700 and within

00:37:20.220 it is

00:37:20.800 safety

00:37:21.220 or you'll

00:37:22.000 need it

00:37:22.260 around

00:37:22.480 your house

00:37:22.960 your school

00:37:23.680 your office

00:37:24.680 but you can

00:37:25.480 never be

00:37:25.940 totally safe

00:37:26.660 if you don't

00:37:27.080 have

00:37:27.320 if you have

00:37:28.920 a country

00:37:29.320 without borders

00:37:30.060 I think

00:37:30.760 that's a

00:37:31.080 very

00:37:31.460 very

00:37:32.880 keen

00:37:34.440 observation

00:37:35.080 my interview

00:37:36.760 with Joe Pollack

00:37:37.380 about the

00:37:37.700 arrest of Roger Stone

00:37:38.460 Bruce writes

00:37:39.080 I agree with you

00:37:40.520 Ezra about Roger Stone

00:37:41.480 being arrested

00:37:41.960 with such theatrics

00:37:42.900 that's the sort

00:37:43.820 of third world

00:37:44.320 thing third world

00:37:45.500 dictatorships do

00:37:46.220 look citizens

00:37:47.000 this could be you

00:37:47.640 if you don't

00:37:48.040 be good boys

00:37:48.740 and girls

00:37:49.440 yeah Roger Stone

00:37:51.160 is a real character

00:37:52.320 and he I think

00:37:54.380 reveled in the attention

00:37:55.420 and he did sort of

00:37:56.200 his Nixon

00:37:56.760 I am not a crook

00:37:58.340 like he really

00:37:59.160 hammed it up

00:37:59.700 remember Roger Stone

00:38:00.900 is such an interesting

00:38:01.840 and strange character

00:38:02.740 he's got a huge

00:38:03.180 tattoo of Nixon

00:38:03.920 on his back

00:38:04.440 I think he loves

00:38:06.420 being the center

00:38:06.860 of attention

00:38:07.360 he's a very unusual

00:38:09.180 man that way

00:38:10.120 but for the rest

00:38:11.400 of us

00:38:11.900 I think we should

00:38:12.780 be terrified

00:38:13.800 I don't think we

00:38:14.420 have that kind of

00:38:15.000 spectacular

00:38:15.780 SWAT style

00:38:17.280 paramilitary style

00:38:18.520 policing in Canada

00:38:19.620 that frequently

00:38:21.300 I think it's only

00:38:22.960 a matter of time

00:38:23.700 especially as

00:38:24.600 Rachel Notley

00:38:25.340 and Justin Trudeau

00:38:26.400 decide to weaponize

00:38:28.280 their hatred

00:38:28.840 for their opponents

00:38:29.660 too

00:38:29.960 God forbid

00:38:30.680 well that's our show

00:38:31.980 for today

00:38:32.480 thanks for watching

00:38:33.260 until tomorrow

00:38:34.080 on behalf of all of us

00:38:35.280 here at Rebel World

00:38:35.900 Headquarters

00:38:36.380 good night

00:38:36.760 and keep fighting

00:38:38.080 for freedom

00:38:38.540 good night

00:38:45.720 peace

00:38:47.640 us

00:38:49.280 we'll see you

00:38:58.280 one

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Rebel News Podcast - January 29, 2019

Canada’s international relations have never been this chaotic. Did anybody do a background check on Chrystia Freeland before she was given the job？

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