Rebel News Podcast - Canadian Association of Journalists take aim at Kenney's Energy Center

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00:01:12.180 The Canadian Association of Journalists is mad at the Alberta government's efforts

00:01:32.540 to uncover the foreign-funded Green Network attacking Canadian oil and gas.

00:01:37.200 And Friends of Science is digging down into the financial benefits the Green Movement reaps 0.97

00:01:43.200 by abusing the charity tax structure here in Canada.

00:01:48.000 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:07.200 You may have missed it because not a lot of people care what they have to say, myself included,

00:02:15.200 and I'm a journalist.

00:02:16.680 But the CAJ, the Canadian Association of Journalists, have given the Alberta government

00:02:21.960 a special award for not being transparent enough.

00:02:25.940 The left-wing activists at the CAJ don't like how the Alberta government has structured

00:02:31.980 the Canadian Energy Centre to keep the War Room from being subject to freedom of information requests.

00:02:39.200 Now, the so-called War Room is currently running down leads on the foreign-funded Green Movement

00:02:46.180 attacking Canadian oil and gas.

00:02:48.580 And if I had to guess, the CAJ is angry that their Friends in the Green Movement

00:02:53.500 can't get an advanced warning about whether or not there is an investigation into their activities.

00:03:00.500 Now, I'm obviously pro-access to information.

00:03:04.140 It's almost my whole entire job.

00:03:06.700 And that's why I know the CAJ is completely insincere in their criticism.

00:03:11.460 I have access to information investigations into the federal government that are older

00:03:16.360 than the entire Energy Centre.

00:03:19.300 I get hammered with huge fees to get federal government documents that I'm legally entitled to.

00:03:24.740 And it was the very same with Rachel Notley.

00:03:27.160 Sometimes I had to wait years for files to come back to me.

00:03:30.980 Yet, the CAJ, well, back then they were quiet as church mice.

00:03:35.680 My guest tonight is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.

00:03:38.960 And Friends of Science, too, have been investigating the abuse of the charity system by the Green Left.

00:03:46.100 They've been doing it for years.

00:03:47.760 Michelle joins me to talk about the CAJ, how green money matters,

00:03:51.920 Michael Moore's new documentary that I obviously can't get enough of,

00:03:55.560 and so much more.

00:04:08.960 Joining me now from her home in Calgary is my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.

00:04:18.480 Michelle, I wanted to have you on today because the environmental movement never stops.

00:04:26.240 They never miss an opportunity to jump on a crisis to push their bad ideas.

00:04:30.840 But first, let's talk about the thing that everybody's talking about right now.

00:04:36.100 Michael Moore's new documentary, Planet of the Humans.

00:04:38.540 It's making all the right people mad on the left,

00:04:43.520 and they're so offended that one of their own is telling them these harsh truths,

00:04:49.440 these inconvenient truths, if you will.

00:04:51.340 Yes, well, it's quite funny to see Elizabeth May tweeting with the hashtag,

00:04:57.020 why did Michael Moore?

00:04:58.560 It's kind of like, well, you know, he is a fairly intelligent person,

00:05:02.580 and finally probably opened that Pandora's box and said,

00:05:07.200 wow, renewables run on fossil fuels.

00:05:09.560 How about that?

00:05:10.480 We've been lied to.

00:05:11.680 Maybe people should know.

00:05:12.720 So, it's quite funny to see people desperately grasping,

00:05:18.660 trying to make up any old excuse as to why the movie is horrible,

00:05:23.080 like they're saying things, well, this is really out of date.

00:05:25.760 It was made back, well, that Aussie Jenner stuff was made in 2012.

00:05:30.360 Things have really changed.

00:05:32.020 Well, they haven't, you know, as I think Michael Schellenberger explained,

00:05:37.500 solar efficiency has increased by perhaps 8%,

00:05:41.040 but it was so small to begin with, you know, that's almost nothing.

00:05:46.320 And the fact remains, all of these alternative forms of energy require fossil fuels,

00:05:51.800 and they require them to run on the grid.

00:05:53.720 So, it's just really wasteful duplication to incorporate wind and solar in most cases on the grid.

00:06:00.960 There are probably a few places like maybe California or a few spots in Africa

00:06:05.640 or remote locations where it might be useful as off-grid help,

00:06:10.400 but honestly, the industrial farms, no, just a waste of taxpayer money.

00:06:18.200 Yeah, it's funny to see the left, who have for so long been Michael Moore fans,

00:06:26.960 now calling for his censorship.

00:06:29.680 Like, they're saying that this movie needs to be taken down because one time in his life he's saying something they disagree with

00:06:39.360 and just shows how intolerant they are of one of their own for just, I guess, leaving the reservation.

00:06:48.580 Yeah, I guess you could put it that way.

00:06:52.080 Yeah, well, it's sad to see that that's their first reaction, too,

00:06:56.080 rather than saying, well, let's have a discussion about this,

00:06:58.500 or, you know, I have this example here of my solar farm that works perfectly well,

00:07:02.920 or my fabulous wind farm,

00:07:04.860 and argue the evidence.

00:07:08.040 You know, that's the thing that we usually try to get people to do is,

00:07:10.520 okay, make an argument, you want to dispute something, but argue the evidence.

00:07:14.440 Don't start calling people names and calling for them to be censored and denied public access.

00:07:21.360 And that is really sad to see that that's the first thing they jump to.

00:07:26.240 And also, you know, it's funny that people,

00:07:30.100 there's a big article in Rolling Stone by Bill McKibben,

00:07:33.200 and I mean, so he was exposed in that film as not being a grassroots guy from 350.org.

00:07:38.500 He's been funded for millions of dollars by all these big foundations.

00:07:42.720 Many of them are tar sands, campaign foundations as well.

00:07:46.980 And, you know, so he's not been a grassroots guy.

00:07:51.080 So when you get a million dollars from the Oak Foundation to run off fossil fuels,

00:07:58.080 that's not grassroots.

00:07:59.760 That seems to be some kind of either corporate or foundational effort to change public policy

00:08:05.860 using the presumed grassroots front man as a, you know, a lightning rod for the people who follow him.

00:08:15.380 And yet, you know, he can't even gracefully acknowledge that, yeah, okay, sheepishly, yes, of course,

00:08:21.400 I have been funded by these guys.

00:08:23.640 You know, it's really sad to see.

00:08:25.860 And sad to see the outrage against Michael Moore.

00:08:30.980 And nice also in this movie that Moore didn't feel the need to present his personality.

00:08:37.720 You know, he's a very strong character.

00:08:39.760 And he just let these two people, Jeff Gibbs and Ozzie Zenner,

00:08:44.820 pretty much carry the whole movie with their, you know, open, questioning,

00:08:49.140 rather naive and very humble approach to, wow, so these solar panels are running the stage show.

00:08:56.940 No?

00:08:57.760 You mean that, oh, it's plugged into the diesel generator.

00:09:01.440 Okay.

00:09:02.440 You know, those moments of enlightenment are just beautiful.

00:09:06.140 Yeah, it reminded me of a documentary that someone we both know, Mariah Pools, 0.97

00:09:11.520 made where he approached green energy with an open mind.

00:09:16.400 He said he's from the left, and he kind of embraced it.

00:09:19.940 And then the more he researched with an open mind,

00:09:23.700 the more he came to understand how he had been misled.

00:09:28.380 And I think it's very strange how the left are so pro-censorship on this,

00:09:34.300 when on the right, I want everybody to see an inconvenient truth by Al Gore.

00:09:41.540 I want everybody to see it, because I want everybody to see how wrong now,

00:09:46.780 with hindsight being 20-20, those predictions were,

00:09:50.300 and how wrong current predictions continue to be.

00:09:53.640 I think, especially people on the left, especially people in the environmentalist movement,

00:09:58.840 please go watch that movie now, and tell me how right your side has been.

00:10:03.540 Right.

00:10:04.320 Yeah.

00:10:04.780 No, very true.

00:10:05.440 We just had, what, the 50th Earth Day, and none of the predictions have come true.

00:10:09.780 So, you know, that's a pretty bad record.

00:10:12.880 Not that we would want them to come true, they're all catastrophic,

00:10:15.600 but instead of people celebrating Earth Day and saying,

00:10:18.860 wow, this is fantastic, 50 years ago, we thought we'd all be done by now.

00:10:23.220 And instead, we have a fabulous society, we have wonderful inventions,

00:10:28.480 we've gone to the moon and back, and all these other wonderful things.

00:10:32.060 You know, nobody's celebrating the fact that bad things did not happen.

00:10:35.900 So, that's pretty weird.

00:10:39.040 Yeah, you know, we should be celebrating the fact that we're not all dead,

00:10:42.300 instead of lamenting the fact that we aren't dead.

00:10:46.220 We still might be.

00:10:46.940 We still only have 12 years.

00:10:48.640 You know, that's what the IPCC said in 1989.

00:10:52.840 Now, you sent me an article by Ron Klutz, and I thought it was a really great article.

00:11:03.980 It's called Woke Capitalists High on ESG.

00:11:07.700 Why don't you take us through it?

00:11:10.600 Well, Woke Capitalists High on ESG is about how the environmental or climate movement

00:11:18.920 has now come up with a new barrier for any corporation to leap over

00:11:23.680 before they can get substantial institutional investment funding.

00:11:28.080 And that's environment, social, and governance.

00:11:31.960 And the problem is, somebody like Pembina Institute comes up with all these kinds of questions

00:11:37.320 of a company that are judged and evaluated rather subjectively by some other body.

00:11:43.960 And based on that assessment, then an institutional investor decides to invest or not.

00:11:49.300 Now, it used to be that people would look at a company and say,

00:11:52.700 is this a good investment or not?

00:11:54.280 Will people buy the product?

00:11:55.700 Will it make money?

00:11:56.640 Is it a profitable operation?

00:11:58.640 Do the people running it have integrity?

00:12:00.280 And what is the long-term view in the marketplace?

00:12:04.140 And now they evaluate their investments on all kinds of ridiculous things like ESG.

00:12:09.920 And really, you just have to look at the UNPRI, where the ESG guru is Al Gore.

00:12:18.660 So that should tell you pretty much everything there.

00:12:21.380 And then you can look at Alberta and find that the Pembina Institute is now a body that certifies ESG qualifications.

00:12:30.440 And we have that in one of our recent videos, the one that's about tides asking people to shift

00:12:35.340 their pension fund investments to green.

00:12:39.380 So you have to see that these people are contriving the market now.

00:12:45.020 They're making it impossible to get investment funds without jumping through all kinds of ridiculous hoops.

00:12:51.380 That really do nothing for the bottom line for the company, but they do a lot for tying the company up with impossible barriers and things that can't really be appealed.

00:13:05.460 You know, like what happens if your board doesn't have the right mix of diversity that these ESG people want?

00:13:11.900 Well, what is the right mix?

00:13:14.160 You know, can you have one person who happens to be of a certain religion, a certain gender, a certain color, and with a certain technical qualification?

00:13:23.640 Will that one person be a diverse, enough, a diverse person?

00:13:29.720 Or do you have to have four separate individuals with each of those characters to create your board diversity?

00:13:34.980 And do those board members actually have the skill to help the company?

00:13:40.460 That's the whole idea of having a board is that you bring people in who have some diverse skill set in business to offer insight and helpful suggestions for how to make the company run better and be more profitable.

00:13:53.480 Yeah, it's strange how companies used to be beholden to their shareholders, the people they were responsible for making profit for.

00:14:04.880 And now they're responsible to these lobby groups who want diversity quotas, ethical investing quotas, which so often means green energy.

00:14:17.280 And the people who are paying for it all are the shareholders who are not seeing return on their investment.

00:14:25.320 Well, it's interesting as a big chunk of the shareholder base now is what we call activist investors.

00:14:31.120 And Peter Drucker, the management guru of the 70s, foresaw this back in the 70s that within the next 20 years or so, pension fund socialism would come to North America, meaning that pension funds would become the primary owners of corporations.

00:14:51.660 And that has happened.

00:14:53.140 But that would be probably just fine, except the UNPRI has turned them all into activist investors.

00:15:00.160 And the UNPRI requires these institutional investors to sign on to agreements that are voluntary to begin with.

00:15:09.920 But if you volunteer and sign on, then you have to comply or explain.

00:15:15.220 So now you have this group think and group pressure to invest in things that are green and sustainable.

00:15:21.740 And, you know, those definitions are pretty crazy, as we saw in Michael Moore's film.

00:15:28.300 You know, people claiming, oh, we're investing in sustainable biomass, all these wood pellets.

00:15:33.540 Sure you are.

00:15:34.300 You know, they're being processed by coal.

00:15:36.520 They're being shipped around the world.

00:15:39.820 They're making more pollution than ever.

00:15:41.720 And the front man for it is funded by a green billionaire in the back to push his policy to make his investment richer.

00:15:48.480 So, you know, it's really getting very difficult for companies to just do business for business sake.

00:15:57.000 Yeah, they end up entangled in all these other issues that, like you say, are generally not good for business and good for the bottom line.

00:16:05.960 Now, on the topic of money, last time you were on the show, we never got around to talking about it.

00:16:12.960 Robert Lyman's report published at Friends of Science called Money Matters, the ENGO Political Advantage.

00:16:22.760 Walk us through that one.

00:16:24.780 Well, basically, Robert Lyman went through the CRA records of all of the 40 top ENGOs in Canada.

00:16:34.100 And he found that between 2000 and 2018, they had 18 times the revenues of all the political parties in Canada and 27 times the revenues of the free market think tanks, places like the Fraser Institute and Frontier and groups like that.

00:16:52.820 So the purpose of the exercise was to show that these groups are political bee moths now.

00:16:59.480 We have additional reports showing that many times they're getting tax subsidies because most of them are federally registered charities.

00:17:11.000 So that money is not going into the tax pool.

00:17:13.880 Then they get grants from the government.

00:17:16.020 And then they often grant back to a political party some of the money that they have, which that money would, you know, actually came from taxpayers.

00:17:26.920 So they're diverting public funds in a way to causes that are not charitable.

00:17:35.500 And these have very, very serious complications for Canadian society because, you know, again, if you look at these big ENGOs, they also usually have extremely large social media networks.

00:17:50.560 So they're able to mobilize large groups of the population, whether it be voting, whether it be point and click email campaigns, but the ordinary citizen doesn't have that.

00:18:02.320 And the taxpayers are actually funding these guys to do projects that are against all taxpayers' interests.

00:18:08.720 And we've seen that with another report that Robert did, Prosperity Forgone, where in two years, Canada has sloughed off $100 billion in investment and many more billions before that, of course, with the Tar Sands campaign.

00:18:25.140 But that $100 billion, you know, couldn't we have used that right now in the COVID-19 crisis?

00:18:32.680 Now we're racking up bills that we can't pay for.

00:18:36.140 And all of these policies that sent those industries packing came from these ENGOs. 0.96

00:18:43.120 It sounds a lot like a money laundering racket, don't you think?

00:18:49.680 Yes, I would say probably in some circumstances it is exactly that.

00:18:54.740 Yeah.

00:18:55.780 Now, you just brought up COVID-19.

00:18:57.980 What a great segue.

00:18:58.980 Um, I sent you an article, um, earlier today, uh, it's published by Reuters, like an actual newswire service.

00:19:08.800 Um, they've published an opinion piece by Sappora Berman, um, who was an employee of the NDP government for a while here in Alberta.

00:19:17.600 And she, her article makes the case for seizing upon the opportunity of the COVID-19 crisis and the catastrophe in the economy to use this moment in time to basically phase out oil and gas, phase out fossil fuels altogether, and direct bailout dollars to green energy and basically make that the future of the Canadian economy. 0.99

00:19:41.540 Well, let's be blunt, Sappora Berman is an idiot. 1.00

00:19:46.060 Everything, everything that is made in this world is made with fossil fuels. 1.00

00:19:50.700 If you want to make a wind turbine, you need, um, thousands of tons of coal and natural gas and oil to make and install a wind turbine.

00:20:03.940 To run a wind or solar farm, you need to have a natural gas plant backing it up 100% of the time.

00:20:11.100 Um, and maybe not if you're in Norway or Sweden or France where you have nuclear or hydro, but certainly any other part of the world, definitely Canada, that's what you need.

00:20:22.400 And, um, you know, Thomas Reuters is also a very, uh, how shall we call it, climateer organization.

00:20:29.240 They run climate change seminars for journalists in the summer, but it's not actually about learning about science.

00:20:35.520 It's just learning about the propaganda of climate catastrophe.

00:20:39.340 So, Sappora Berman is somebody who should be taken to task by the media and by officials who should ask her to come and explain exactly how society would operate. 0.96

00:20:49.420 Because as we saw again with Michael Moore's film, he shows that every form of alternative energy runs off fossil fuels and is made by lots of fossil fuels.

00:20:59.560 Instead of listening to Sappora Berman, we should be listening to Professor Emeritus Václav Smil of the University of Winnipeg, who has done 40 books or more on energy.

00:21:11.460 He's very clear about the fact that you cannot run a city on solar panels, even if they're all over your house, because you just need, you know, nighttime to fall and you have no power.

00:21:23.760 And, um, you know, the power grid itself is very complex.

00:21:27.500 People don't quite understand how it works.

00:21:29.520 And, like, Elizabeth May is saying, oh, you know, in her rebuttal to Michael Moore, oh, well, we can store the power that's made from the wind on the grid.

00:21:39.160 Well, no, you can't.

00:21:40.140 It's a live system.

00:21:41.700 It's running all the time.

00:21:42.880 If there's not enough room on the grid, you have to spill it into another province or territory, which is what happens in Ontario all the time.

00:21:50.240 And Ontario taxpayers pay hundreds of millions of dollars every year for energy from wind that they're not using, that they have to spill over the border and give away to people in the United States.

00:22:02.680 Yes. So, um, I think that Sipporah Berman should really be called to task.

00:22:08.680 And I wish that people like the Canadian Association of Journalists would call her out and ask her, explain to us how this is going to work and explain it in technical detail and give us a cost benefit analysis.

00:22:21.660 We want this due diligence.

00:22:23.760 We don't want any more of these lip-flapping ENGOs bandwagoning green energy when it doesn't work, period.

00:22:32.480 Well, and just to point out how ridiculous Berman is, she says it's time for a fossil fuel non-proliferation treaty.

00:22:43.280 She wants fossil fuels, life-saving fossil fuels, the kind that are currently reliably running ventilators in New York City right now.

00:22:54.860 She wants them treated as though they are nuclear missiles, something that could destroy the earth, really.

00:23:04.360 That's how she wants fossil fuels treated. 1.00

00:23:06.340 That's how crazy she is. 1.00

00:23:08.880 Well, yes, she began this at COP25, actually.

00:23:13.340 That was where she began her campaign for the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty.

00:23:18.120 And as you say, it is ridiculous because everything in the world runs on fossil fuels.

00:23:23.200 Robert Lyman is actually just completing another report.

00:23:26.060 We should have it out this week, where he shows that, I don't know, something like 80% of the world runs on fossil fuels,

00:23:33.860 10% or 20% on nuclear, 10% on hydro, you know, and then whatever.

00:23:42.080 Very, very small percentage.

00:23:43.900 4% of the world's energy is generated by renewables.

00:23:49.260 And if you're going to make more renewables, you're going to need way more fossil fuels.

00:23:53.980 Way, way more fossil fuels. 0.93

00:23:55.600 So it's a ridiculous statement that she's making.

00:23:57.940 Now, you brought up the Canadian Association of Journalists, and I'm glad you did. 0.79

00:24:04.060 Because they have just, I guess on April 28th, nobody noticed because nobody cares what the Canadian Association of Journalists does.

00:24:13.740 I know I don't.

00:24:14.640 Every time I needed an advocacy group behind me when I'm fighting for freedom, these people are just, there's a cloud of dust where they were standing.

00:24:23.360 They've given the Government of Alberta, the 2019 recipient of the Code of Silence Award for Outstanding Achievement in Government Secrecy in the Provincial category.

00:24:35.140 That's weird because I didn't hear from these guys when Rachel Notley used an armed sheriff to kick me out of a press conference, but I'll continue.

00:24:42.960 The award is given annually by the Canadian Association of Journalists, Centre for Free Expression at Ryerson, Ryerson of all places.

00:24:51.080 News Media Canada and Canadian journalists for free expression to call public attention to governments, government departments and agencies that put extra effort into denying public access to government information to which the public has a right under access to information.

00:25:07.040 And they said that the Alberta government created the Canadian Energy Centre and made all of its internal operations exempt from freedom of information legislation, ensuring there would be no transparency or public right to know what it is doing.

00:25:22.500 Look, fine.

00:25:24.240 I think the Canadian Energy Centre should have been subject to FOIP legislation.

00:25:28.880 But is this the worst thing that a government in Canada is doing to attack journalistic freedom or to create a cone of silence?

00:25:39.440 Absolutely not.

00:25:40.420 But these journalist organizations only punch left or sorry, only punch right.

00:25:45.740 They never punch left and they seem to always be attacking anything to do with fossil fuels all the time.

00:25:53.220 Even these free expression organizations.

00:25:56.020 It's very bizarre.

00:25:57.540 Well, that's, you know, the whole press release from them was also very strange because they claim that the Tar Sands campaign, which is one of their big issues there, that, you know, the Tar Sands campaign information could not be FOIPed.

00:26:13.240 They claim that they claim that it's a conspiracy theory anyway, when, you know, any person can go online to corporate ethics website and under Michael Mark's bio, you can see that he ran the Tar Sands campaign and he ran about, he strategized about a hundred different groups around the world, Canada, U.S., EU.

00:26:36.640 That sounds like a campaign against a particular industry, doesn't it?

00:26:43.020 There's the international funders of indigenous people where he gives a talk about how he is coordinating all the ENGOs and First Nations people to block Keystone XL with the intention of shutting down the oil sands.

00:26:58.680 That sounds like a green trade war.

00:27:01.280 I'm not sure that you want every Tom, Dick and Harry FOIPing the information that an investigation, which effectively might end up as a criminal investigation.

00:27:10.820 I don't know.

00:27:11.500 Should that be FOIPed or should it be, you know, brought to court at some point or some other kind of action?

00:27:17.360 I don't know what the government might have in mind.

00:27:19.780 But obviously these people can't use Google, you know, they're journalists.

00:27:25.580 These are journalists who for the past over a decade could have been covering this story and exposing it as it went along.

00:27:33.400 Where were they?

00:27:34.520 You know, because Vivian Krauss found the information.

00:27:37.400 I found the information.

00:27:38.760 Ezra found the information.

00:27:40.600 CFACT found the information.

00:27:43.400 Counterpoint found the information.

00:27:44.960 Lots of people out there have found the Tar Sands campaign.

00:27:49.360 But this whole group of Canadian Association of Journalists were unable to use Google and find out if it's a real thing or not.

00:27:57.260 Yeah, and I'm to believe these people are going to look at the information they may find through an unbiased lens.

00:28:07.460 Like, look, I'm conservative.

00:28:09.240 I'm pro-fossil fuel.

00:28:10.560 Everybody knows that about me.

00:28:11.680 I'm not pretending to be otherwise.

00:28:13.000 But these guys, they say that they are unbiased, straight journalists.

00:28:18.460 And yet they wrote this.

00:28:20.300 In June 2019, Kenny followed through on a campaign promise to create an energy war room to counter what the government claims is a conspiracy by foreign-funded interests to attack the province's energy industry.

00:28:33.280 But critics say the theory behind that conspiracy has been debunked.

00:28:38.260 Instead, they say the war room, which has a $30 million annual budget.

00:28:42.320 I think that's been substantially cut, by the way.

00:28:44.480 Is an attempt to silence those who would tell the truth about Alberta's oil patch and its contribution to the existential threat of global climate change.

00:28:58.380 Oh, we're not done being crazy because there's more.

00:29:01.780 In response to these developments, Amnesty International has expressed, quote, deep concern that the war room will, quote, undermine and violate a range of Albertans, sorry, Alberta's human rights obligations.

00:29:19.300 As well as create a, quote, climate of hostility towards environmental human rights defenders, exposing them to intimidation and threats, including threats of violence.

00:29:31.060 Oh, my gosh.

00:29:32.440 Well, you know, there are some people who I won't tweet anymore because I'm afraid that they're associated with Extinction Rebellion and they might just go and glue themselves to someone's door, right?

00:29:43.860 So, speaking of threats, but what are they saying here?

00:29:48.940 Amnesty International has been funded by the Climate Works associate.

00:29:54.120 Climate Works is behind a very large global campaign called Design to Win, where they funded ENGOs around the world to push for their policies of carbon pricing, renewables and cap and trade.

00:30:07.420 And one of those partners and a partner in the Tar Sands campaign is the Oak Foundation, which gave Amnesty International something like $3.5 million.

00:30:18.780 The Oak Foundation gave Climate Works $75 million.

00:30:22.340 They gave 350 Org at least a million dollars.

00:30:29.400 They gave the Pemina Institute half a million dollars.

00:30:32.720 They gave them actually more than that, but that's the one I can remember off the top of my head, $442,000 something or other.

00:30:39.020 Anyway, the point being that there's lots and lots of big money rolling around and falling in the pockets of these people who claim to be advocates for human rights.

00:30:48.920 What about the human rights of the oil and gas and oil sands workers in Alberta, of the coal workers in Alberta?

00:30:55.420 What about the rights of these people whose jobs have been destroyed, their communities have been destroyed?

00:31:01.080 Many times they've lost their homes, they're at the food bank.

00:31:04.520 These are hardworking people.

00:31:05.920 They're decent people.

00:31:07.200 And they are being ruined by these ENGOs who are self-righteous, virtue-signaling, foreign-funded saboteurs.

00:31:17.880 So somebody should look into that. 0.61

00:31:20.320 And I hope that the War Room is successful in finding whatever they can find on it, because the things I found are pretty disgusting.

00:31:27.760 You know, Greenpeace, and I think it was 2009, got a grant from the Oak Foundation, and the mandate of that grant was that they would turn members of Parliament against the oil sands and drive investors out of the oil sands by 2012.

00:31:46.980 And they pretty much succeeded by 2014.

00:31:49.200 So this is a very serious issue.

00:31:54.300 This is the economy of the country of Canada and the economy of the province of Alberta and the lives of hundreds of thousands of people.

00:32:04.000 So what about those human rights, Amnesty?

00:32:06.820 What about them?

00:32:08.260 Well, and we saw how Albertans deal with environmentalists hijacking our economy.

00:32:15.860 When those good old Alberta boys took down a rail blockade west of Edmonton a couple of months ago, they did it peacefully.

00:32:26.980 They did it, you know what, quite frankly, a lot more good natured than I would have done it.

00:32:31.980 They dealt with abuse.

00:32:33.400 One of them was even assaulted.

00:32:35.820 They were being called names.

00:32:37.760 They were happy warriors.

00:32:40.060 Those are apparently the human rights violators who are creating a climate of hostility.

00:32:45.860 Towards environmental human rights defenders here in Alberta.

00:32:50.760 Those guys out west of Edmonton taking down a rail blockade with a smile on their faces.

00:32:56.180 How dare Amnesty say those things about Albertans?

00:33:00.580 Well, you know, they're living in another cloud and they get their money from rich foundations and we have to work for it.

00:33:09.520 So, you know, I have to say I'm always in favor of rule of law, but it's pretty surprising that the police couldn't do anything about those blockades.

00:33:18.780 And one has to wonder, you know, when you look at the international funders of Indigenous people, that report that I just mentioned, the conference that they had,

00:33:27.440 when there's clearly a stated open campaign to tie environmental groups and activists and First Nations activists together for a specific purpose to destroy the economy,

00:33:42.600 somebody should be looking into that in terms of civil and criminal issues.

00:33:48.600 I think the fact that the environmental movement is so scared of the Alberta government digging into them that they've elicited help from Amnesty International tells me there's something there there, if you know what I mean.

00:34:14.660 And so I hope the Alberta government keeps digging and I hope everybody else does, too, because a lot of work has been done by citizen journalists like yourself on this issue.

00:34:25.640 Michelle, I know that you have a scratchy throat and you've been talking for a half an hour.

00:34:31.580 I want to give people a chance to know where to find you and know how they can support the work that you do at Friends of Science to sort of digest these bigger issues into layman's terms.

00:34:42.680 Speaking of scratchy throat, I just have COVID-19, just before we do that, I would like to bring up a fact, you know, a lot of people are unaware that the IMF.

00:34:54.400 Yes, please. Sorry. Go ahead.

00:34:56.180 The IMF, the International Monetary Fund and Mark Carney and all these big banksters who years ago and insurance companies, years ago they had pandemic as number one on the list of potential risks in the world.

00:35:13.600 That was in 2008. By 2019, climate change had become the number one issue on the list.

00:35:23.340 OK, so these people failed us. If you were in a job and you made that big of a miss, you would be kicked out on the street.

00:35:32.080 You'd never get a job again. But no, all these people have suddenly been reincarnated as green activists.

00:35:38.740 This is how we're going to recover from the pandemic that we forgot to keep on our list.

00:35:44.260 We're going to use climate change as a green recovery tool.

00:35:47.940 So, you know, unfortunately, these people have lots of money and power and they're going to try and tie climate to every aspect of recovery from COVID-19,

00:35:58.980 which will, in fact, hinder recovery and will be as damaging as everything that we've seen so far,

00:36:05.680 where wind and solar and carbon taxes send people into a spiral of debt and poverty, heat or eat poverty.

00:36:13.520 And in fact, the head of the IMF, I believe, I can't remember her name, was saying that, you know, how will governments pay for this?

00:36:22.140 And she said, well, you know, the good thing is there's a carbon tax.

00:36:25.160 And if you have a carbon tax, then you can pay for recovery.

00:36:28.680 So just as Bloomberg published a couple of years ago that perhaps carbon taxes could be between $20 to $27,000 a tonne.

00:36:38.200 You know, watch for that.

00:36:39.800 This is one reason why we must not have a carbon tax and certainly not a global carbon tax law.

00:36:47.280 These people, they never miss an opportunity, do they?

00:36:50.200 They see every crisis, every catastrophe as some kind of opportunity to shove their bad ideas down the throats of the public.

00:36:59.880 Now, getting back to how people support you, how they find you.

00:37:04.960 People can go online to friendsofscience.org.

00:37:09.380 That's our main website.

00:37:10.880 There's a membership and donate button up in the corner.

00:37:13.220 And if you join as a member, then you'll get our updates on Friends of Science Extracts, which is a roundup of news from around the world on the climate-related scene, usually on policy.

00:37:26.060 And also CLI-Sci, which is a roundup of recent peer-reviewed and academic publications on climate.

00:37:31.740 And all of our reports and our press releases as well.

00:37:36.400 We have a blog.

00:37:37.780 We also are on Facebook.

00:37:39.820 We're on Twitter and our YouTube channel, where we have many popular videos.

00:37:45.300 And also our Instagram page, which is kind of new, but it's there.

00:37:49.900 And LinkedIn.

00:37:51.260 So, you know, join in the conversation.

00:37:53.880 We don't expect you to agree.

00:37:55.760 We don't mind if you disagree.

00:37:57.040 Let's talk.

00:37:58.600 Yeah.

00:37:59.300 You know what?

00:37:59.800 I cannot recommend your YouTube channel enough.

00:38:02.040 For someone who wants complicated subjects broken down into digestible parts and in a way that you can understand that would apply to your everyday life, your YouTube channel does that beautifully.

00:38:19.220 And you've got some videos that have gone pretty viral over there.

00:38:22.840 So I think that's great.

00:38:24.080 Michelle, thanks for coming on the show.

00:38:25.640 So we'll talk again very, very soon.

00:38:29.200 I can't wait for us all to get haircuts when this is all over.

00:38:35.300 Okay.

00:38:35.880 Well, thank you so much, Sheila.

00:38:37.240 And keep up the good work.

00:38:39.120 We will.

00:38:39.540 You too.

00:38:40.140 Thanks, Michelle.

00:38:40.640 Okay.

00:38:41.120 Thank you.

00:38:41.840 Bye-bye.

00:38:49.140 The Green Movement is scared.

00:38:51.560 The jig is up.

00:38:52.380 People are catching on to not only the scam that green energy is, but the scam of green charities abusing the tax credit they receive here in Canada to then turn around and attack Canadian industries.

00:39:04.980 That's why they're so desperate to censor anybody who speaks out and speaks the truth about them.

00:39:12.380 They want to censor Michael Moore now.

00:39:14.580 They'd love to censor Michelle Sterling. 1.00

00:39:16.900 They would absolutely love to censor me, but they'd also love to censor you at home.

00:39:22.420 They'd love to control the internet so that you can never have access to information that debunks these green lies. 0.98

00:39:31.340 And that's why we have to stand up against calls for censorship wherever we find them.

00:39:35.500 Because these calls for censorship, they're pernicious and they spread to all aspects of your life.

00:39:41.340 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:39:43.140 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:39:44.940 Stay healthy.

00:39:45.480 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:39:49.120 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:40:15.480 Thank you.

00:40:16.140 Thank you.

00:40:16.740 Thank you.

00:40:16.780 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - May 07, 2020

Canadian Association of Journalists take aim at Kenney's Energy Center

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