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Cancel culture comes for Dr. Seuss (I wish I were kidding)


Summary

A Canadian MP bravely stood in support of Dr. Seuss for two minutes, and Ezra Levant is here to tell you why you should do the same. Subscribe to Rebel News Plus to get immediate access to all new episodes of The Ezra Levant Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today, I talk about Dr. Seuss, and I don't even engage in any rhymes.
00:00:05.040 I'm not going to rhyme about it. I'm going to talk about the fact that his descendants
00:00:08.620 have decided to ban six of his books from publication. And I want to tell you about
00:00:14.020 a Canadian MP who bravely stood in support of Dr. Seuss for two minutes. I'll show you the clock.
00:00:23.720 Hey, before I get to that, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.
00:00:28.180 That's the video version of the show. And today it's great because we've got four excerpts from
00:00:32.860 a Dr. Seuss old video about the Sneetches. Remember them? And I'd love to show that to you. Yeah,
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00:01:27.200 Tonight, cancel culture comes for Dr. Seuss. I wish I were kidding. It's March 3rd and this is
00:01:42.220 The Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:49.140 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the
00:01:54.760 government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:02:04.040 If you've ever had kids, you know Dr. Seuss because he makes the best kids books. Before him,
00:02:10.500 books about learning to read were pretty boring. But then he decided to make them funny and
00:02:15.400 ridiculous and hilarious and rhyme. The cat in the hat was the big breakthrough for him.
00:02:21.100 Others followed green eggs and ham, fox in socks. One of the things you'll know about Dr. Seuss
00:02:27.200 is that most of the people in his stories aren't actually people. They're critters or creatures of
00:02:33.060 his bizarre and goofy imagination. I think it was about imagination and silliness and learning to
00:02:41.000 read without thinking about learning to read because you're thinking about all the silly rhymes
00:02:46.340 and silly pictures. That's what makes it work. The kids learn how to read because they're not
00:02:51.020 thinking about the boring parts. They're having fun. They don't realize they're learning. Sometimes
00:02:55.420 there was some subtle politics, I suppose. In Horton Hears a Who, which was turned into a movie,
00:03:02.560 a huge elephant hears tiny voices and it's a whole tiny world he saves. No one else believes it even
00:03:08.720 exists. The catchphrase, a person's a person no matter how small, has been interpreted as being
00:03:15.020 pro-life. All right, it is. So what? In 1974, Dr. Seuss gave permission to his friend Art Buchwald
00:03:22.980 to rewrite one of his poems into an anti-Nixon poem. This was the Watergate era. I don't think
00:03:32.520 that was a particularly radical point of view, but, you know, so the man wasn't a political
00:03:37.240 blank slate, so what? And I'm sure that by today's exquisite standards, he did draw things sometimes or
00:03:44.140 say things sometimes that wouldn't be up to our woke standards. Pretty much anything written for
00:03:49.340 five minutes ago fails that test. But the shocking news, real news, is that Dr. Seuss's own estate
00:03:57.260 has announced that they simply will stop printing six of his books. I thought this was just like a
00:04:04.200 satirical rumor, but it is true. Take a look at this. Statement from Dr. Seuss Enterprises, March 2nd,
00:04:12.040 2021. Today on Dr. Seuss's birthday, Dr. Seuss Enterprises celebrates reading and also
00:04:17.660 our mission of supporting all children and families with messages of hope, inspiration,
00:04:22.340 inclusion, and friendship. We are committed to action. To that end, Dr. Seuss Enterprises,
00:04:27.520 working with a panel of experts, including educators, reviewed our catalog of titles and
00:04:32.300 made the decision last year to cease publication and licensing of the following titles. And to think
00:04:38.020 that I saw it on Mulberry Street, If I Ran the Zoo, McElligot's Pool, on Beyond Zebra, Scrambled Eggs
00:04:45.920 Super, and The Cat's Quizzer, these books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong.
00:04:53.200 Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr.
00:04:57.940 Seuss Enterprises' catalog represents and supports all communities and families. That is so gross.
00:05:03.900 They are erasing, unpersoning, destroying their own guy. They're canceling themselves or their grandpa.
00:05:15.100 I know that book Mulberry Street, by the way. It's such a fun book. You have to find strange things like
00:05:21.460 an upside-down tree or a car without a wheel or whatever. No real person would find that book
00:05:29.180 offensive. Imagine just declaring you're going to stop people from reading a book your grandpa wrote
00:05:35.740 that has been loved by a hundred million people because you, the ingrate, woke heir to his fortune,
00:05:45.680 found something to grouse about so you could be important for a minute too. No one believes that
00:05:51.720 Dr. Seuss is bad. No one. Not even his royal wokeness, Barack Obama. Listen to this.
00:05:59.180 Pretty much all the stuff you need to know is in Dr. Seuss. It's like, you know, the star-bellied
00:06:08.860 sneeches, you know. We're all the same. So why would we treat somebody differently just because
00:06:20.140 they don't have a star on their belly? You know, if I think about responsibility, I think about, you know,
00:06:27.820 Horton's sitting on the egg up in the tree while Lazy Macy's flying up and doing whatever she wants.
00:06:35.820 You know what I mean? I mean, all I'm saying is that as you get older, what you will find is that the
00:06:45.500 homespun basic virtues that your mom or your dad, you know, folks you care about or admire,
00:06:53.740 taught you about hard work, being responsible, being time, giving something back, being useful,
00:07:02.140 working as a team. It turns out, it's all true.
00:07:07.340 He's right, actually. That was just a few years ago. And yet Dr. Seuss is canceled. Do you know
00:07:20.220 that story about the sneeches that Obama was referring to? I think it's probably the most
00:07:25.900 successful anti-racism story for kids in history ever written. It's an allegory. It's not white people
00:07:34.060 and black people. It's not people at all. It's sneeches. They don't exist. There's only one human
00:07:39.500 in the whole story, a race huckster, a hustler. Here, let me show you a few minutes of a cartoon
00:07:45.260 movie made out of it probably 40 years ago. Take a look at this. Now, the star-bellied
00:07:50.540 sneeches had bellies with stars. But the plain-bellied sneeches had none upon ours. No stars on their
00:08:00.460 bellies. No stars upon ours. Now, those stars weren't so big. They were really quite small. You would
00:08:07.740 think such a thing wouldn't matter at all. But because they had stars, all the star-bellied
00:08:13.180 sneeches would brag. We're the best kind of sneech on the beaches.
00:08:23.660 With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort. They'd have nothing to do with their
00:08:28.620 plain-bellied sword. Ronald, remember, when you are out walking, you walk past a sneech of that type
00:08:36.780 without talking. So those are sneeches and the ones who didn't have the star wanted a star because the
00:08:44.300 star was assigned a status. So enter the huckster. My prices are low and I work with great speed and my
00:08:52.220 work is 100% guaranteed. By my new patent process of polar potoxys of the inner subnuclear noose bomb
00:09:00.140 no-goxys, you'll get a star like the star-bellied sneech for the mere paltry payment of, uh, three
00:09:06.380 dollars each. Naturally, the hustler saw another market, a star-off machine. Belly stars, my dear
00:09:13.660 friends, are no longer in style. And I'll have yours off in a very short while in my wondrous machine which
00:09:19.820 eradicates stars. Then you won't look like sneeches who have them on bars. Eradicates these? Eradicates
00:09:28.220 these with the greatest of ease, uh, provided you pay your 10 bucks, if you please. And on it went,
00:09:34.940 star on, star off, until no one could remember who was who, uh, once all their money was gone,
00:09:39.980 the huckster left. But McBean was quite wrong. I am happy to say that the sneeches got really quite
00:09:46.300 smart on that day. That day they decided that sneeches are sneeches and no kind of sneetch is
00:09:52.940 the best on the beaches. That day all the sneeches forgot about stars and whether they had one or not
00:10:02.380 upon thars. It's a great story. I bet that story did more to stop racism in America than any other book
00:10:08.780 ever written except the Bible and Uncle Tom's Cabin. But sure, go ahead and call Dr. Seuss a bigot
00:10:15.420 and ban his books. You can buy Hitler's Mein Kampf, by the way, on Amazon. That, that's not banned.
00:10:22.940 So you might say, well, that, that's just some wacky woke Dr. Seuss heirs. Just like John D.
00:10:28.620 Rockefeller's great grandchildren are communists that the old man would probably despise and probably have
00:10:34.460 had shot if he knew about them. Uh, he'd probably have not left them a dime. Same with Dr. Seuss and his
00:10:42.380 ungrateful descendants, but it's not just the wacky grandkids. It's the president of the United
00:10:49.420 States, Barack Obama's VP. Look at this. Uh, Biden erases Dr. Seuss from read across America
00:10:57.020 proclamation as progressives seek to cancel beloved author because of course there, there aren't enough,
00:11:02.860 I don't know, trans people in his books or trans sneeches or whatever. So it's not just the family.
00:11:09.420 This is spreading. Now there was a glimmer of hope out there for a moment on this ridiculous issue.
00:11:17.740 A new Democrat MP named Charlie Angus, who once in a while shows flashes of common sense. He's the guy
00:11:25.980 who, uh, along with Pierre Polyev went after Trudeau on the WE charity stuff. Charlie Angus,
00:11:31.820 see, I got my beefs with him, but once in a while he, he shows some value. He tweeted this.
00:11:38.620 Dr. Seuss created a wonderful, messy, and subversive world of images and possibilities.
00:11:44.860 My childhood imagination was enthralled by and to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street.
00:11:50.940 Such a tragedy to watch them take a political eraser to his legacy.
00:11:54.860 Wow. I agree with every word of that. And me too. But as you can see, that is not a Twitter page
00:12:03.740 we're showing you. That's an automatic archive of Twitter called Politoops. I don't know how to
00:12:10.620 pronounce it. It's basically a robot that automatically takes a screenshot of any tweet
00:12:16.140 that a politician deletes. So you can see that Charlie Angus bravely stood against cancel culture
00:12:22.620 and against taking an eraser to history for two full minutes. You can see that at the bottom there.
00:12:29.500 That tweet was deleted in two minutes when he himself took an eraser to his own history.
00:12:37.980 Who made you do that, Charlie? Was it your boss, Jagmeet Singh? Who did that to you?
00:12:44.540 I know that Charlie Angus has deleted 1,294 other tweets. I'm all for politicians deleting their tweets.
00:12:53.580 They should delete a lot of what they say and do. They should just say and do less, I think.
00:12:58.620 But I wonder how much of that was Charlie Angus being censored again and again and again.
00:13:06.380 Or in this case, being censored about being censored. Needless to say, that two minutes of courage
00:13:13.820 that Charlie Angus did show, that was two minutes longer than the conservative party leader showed.
00:13:21.580 I know that Dr. Seuss isn't exactly top of the agenda for Canadian conservatives, but that canceling
00:13:28.460 of him is a symbol. It's a symbol of cancel culture, of wokeness, of political correctness. O'Toole claimed he
00:13:34.700 was against that, but he wasn't really. He isn't. He's scared too, isn't he? He's a canceler too.
00:13:45.980 Stay with us for more.
00:13:46.940 Welcome back. Well, we have covered what we call the diner rebellion. Small town diners in the
00:14:05.820 prairies simply saying we're not going to shut down. The big cities might be paranoid about this
00:14:11.020 pandemic, but our town is virus-free. We know everyone. We trust everyone. We're just not
00:14:15.900 going to live like we're under house arrest. Sheila Gunn-Reed told you the story about the
00:14:21.260 Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror, Alberta, and other cafes like the Noble Fox in Bashaw. I think those are
00:14:29.500 important because small businesses, those are a livelihood for so many Canadians, and why should
00:14:35.820 they be closed, whereas the big box stores like Costco and Walmart remain open? I just don't get
00:14:43.660 it. Well, we've also focused on churches, and churches have been particularly punished by these
00:14:51.900 lockdowns. I have my suspicions of why. In my view, anyone who believes in something other than
00:14:58.620 lockdownism, anyone who believes that there's a higher authority than just some politician or a
00:15:03.820 bureaucrat, well, they're going to be a real pain in the neck to the lockdowns because they simply
00:15:08.940 won't live in fear and won't follow ridiculous and capricious rules. And some of those rules,
00:15:14.540 such as in Montreal, for example, allow the reopening of movie theaters for well over 100 people,
00:15:22.540 but massive cathedrals can only have 10 people. Well, what's the difference? We're taking some cases of
00:15:30.540 some churches, but I am delighted to say that our friends at the Justice Center for Constitutional
00:15:36.460 Freedom are doing the really heavy lifting on church freedom, obviously would apply to synagogues
00:15:42.860 and temples and mosques too. And what a pleasure it is now to connect with the boss of the Justice Center
00:15:48.940 for Constitutional Freedom, my own friend and a friend to our viewers, John Carpe, who joins us now via
00:15:54.780 Skype. Well, John, I got to tell you, you are lifting a heavy load out there. You're in a three-day
00:16:00.220 hearing in Vancouver for church rights. You've got the very next day a hearing in Edmonton for Pastor
00:16:07.580 James Coates, who's been in prison for, I think, more than two weeks now. I think you're doing more
00:16:13.820 religious liberty litigation in Canada than any of the so-called civil liberties groups who've gone
00:16:19.660 silent. And I want to thank you for that on behalf of our rebel viewers.
00:16:25.500 It's important work and it's got to get done. We've got currently nine full-time lawyers working
00:16:31.740 on cases across Canada, and we're looking to hire another three or four lawyers as soon as possible.
00:16:37.580 So if any of your viewers, if you're a lawyer or if you know a lawyer that loves liberty, that has some
00:16:42.460 litigation experience, we want to hire another three or four full-time staff lawyers as soon as
00:16:47.820 possible because the amount of work is astronomical. The charter rights and freedoms are being
00:16:54.860 heavily, severely, unjustifiably violated all across Canada.
00:16:59.100 Yeah. Oh, I agree with you. On the screen right now, you can see police with guns in their holsters
00:17:09.180 walking right into a church in Calgary. I think you guys are actually representing this church.
00:17:14.220 I was so infuriated by that act of intimidation, John. These churches are the most peaceful
00:17:20.940 places imaginable. These aren't Hell's Angels biker clubs where cops need to go in SWAT team style.
00:17:28.620 The only possible reason for those armed police to walk into a church is for an intimidation factor. And
00:17:36.860 I'm not asking you to speak about that particular church in Calgary because I understand you have a
00:17:41.740 legal process afoot there. But I think that goes to the mindset of these public health tyrants. I don't
00:17:50.060 think it's appropriate that police run their errands for them. I think that's probably constitutionally
00:17:55.500 suspect. But it gives us an insight into the mind of all these public health bosses who are unaccountable,
00:18:04.540 who have dictator-like power and are taking on the trappings of a police state. Like, it's bizarre to
00:18:11.100 me that in the name of public health, you send in someone with a gun in a holster to a church.
00:18:16.620 That gives away the whole game to me, John.
00:18:19.900 Well, it's terribly sad because there are lots of Canadians that they are pro-police. They want to be
00:18:26.060 pro-police. They don't want to see the police defunded. They want to see the police enforcing,
00:18:31.580 you know, the criminal code prohibitions against things like murder and rape and assault and all
00:18:37.500 kinds of other fraud, all kinds of crime. And unfortunately, our politicians have turned the
00:18:45.420 police against the people by passing unjust laws in the name of health orders. And you mentioned
00:18:52.300 the lack of accountability. One of the legal arguments that we are bringing forward in our
00:18:56.940 court actions in Alberta and Manitoba and other provinces where we are now challenging the
00:19:02.300 lockdowns in court is that this is a blatant violation of the constitution, not just the
00:19:08.300 Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but also the non-charter parts of our constitution that require
00:19:14.940 that laws be passed by the elected members of a democratically elected legislative assembly.
00:19:22.540 And this is a core component of Canada's constitution, that you don't have unelected,
00:19:29.580 unaccountable, politically appointed people that are passing general laws that apply to all citizens
00:19:37.660 and just passing new laws every week, every month, on a whim, with no democratic accountability.
00:19:44.780 None of these health orders which violate our rights and freedoms have been considered,
00:19:50.780 debated, voted on or approved by the elected members of the legislative assembly or the elected
00:19:57.980 or federally, you know, by the federal parliament. So this is another issue that we're putting before
00:20:04.060 the courts in addition to the charter violations. You know, I'm so glad to hear that. One of the
00:20:09.420 things I find infuriating is when our reporters interact with police, which regrettably we do
00:20:14.940 almost every day, is the police have no clue. You know, in the past, in the before times,
00:20:23.340 police would study the criminal code or they might know a couple of bylaws here and there.
00:20:28.380 And the laws would basically be the same every week, every month, every year. If there was a big
00:20:32.540 innovation, they would hear about it. They would be briefed about it by their police departments. But
00:20:37.660 these lockdown rules or guidances or suggestions, some of them are just press conferences,
00:20:45.180 nobody knows what the rules are. The politicians don't know what the rules are. And these cops
00:20:50.700 clearly don't know either. And so they're either guessing or going with their own personal opinion,
00:20:57.660 or just they don't like the cut of someone's jib. So, I mean, it couldn't be clear when it comes to
00:21:02.940 protests, for example. Black Lives Matter protests during the pandemic,
00:21:06.700 you literally see cops taking a knee. But anti-lockdown protests, you see cops throwing
00:21:12.540 people in the back of paddy wagons. And there's no consistency in the application of the laws.
00:21:19.340 I don't think the police understand the laws. And I have some sympathy for them because the laws change.
00:21:24.860 Like, do you think the cops really know the difference between a code red and a code gray and
00:21:29.420 a code orange? I don't think that even the bureaucrats who wrote those understand it.
00:21:36.300 And yet, I don't see any judges saying, whoa, it's been a year, no more excuses.
00:21:42.380 When this was all ramshackle, hustle bustle, we could let you have some leeway. But it's been
00:21:47.900 a year now, and it's just getting worse. Where are the judges?
00:21:52.620 We're gonna find out where they are. But, you know, I really hope that they're going to fulfill
00:21:59.100 their role of upholding rights and freedoms. That's what the courts are there for. You know,
00:22:04.860 since 1982, since we've had the charter, the way it's supposed to work is that when politicians,
00:22:11.740 you know, perhaps with good intentions, but also perhaps acting out of fear and panic and without
00:22:17.100 facts, when politicians violate our rights and freedoms, and perhaps have strong public support
00:22:23.580 for doing so, the courts are supposed to be there to say, wait a minute, no, there's no justification
00:22:30.460 or there isn't adequate justification for these health orders that violate our freedoms to, you know,
00:22:36.540 move, travel, worship, assemble peacefully, associate, and so on. The opening line of the charter,
00:22:44.220 the preamble of the charter says that Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of
00:22:49.820 God and the rule of law. And part of the rule of law, and as you know, as we're your lawyer as well,
00:22:57.660 several dimensions to the rule of law, one of them is clarity in the law. And yet we get these health
00:23:03.020 orders that say, you know, we should, you know, or it would be best if, as opposed to clear legal language
00:23:10.860 that says must or shall. Yeah. And you've got you've got laws promulgated by way of press conferences.
00:23:16.540 I mean, it's a complete disregard for Canada's constitution. And so I'm hoping that judges will
00:23:23.340 not shy away from what might prove to be an unpopular task of upholding rights and freedoms.
00:23:30.060 I mean, I know a few judges, they are at the highest heights of society, all their friends are in the
00:23:35.340 elites, whether it's law professors, lawyers, bankers, they live in fancy neighborhoods, they are in the highest
00:23:44.140 circles. And I can only imagine the peer pressure at that high heights to conform to the lockdownism.
00:23:51.660 It's the working classes who have lost their jobs. You know, we see the news that there's
00:23:57.020 a judge in Ontario who's hearing cases from Barbados. You know what, no one in the judiciary
00:24:03.660 has lost a day's pay. In fact, they're having a great staycation. So you've got the lockdown class
00:24:09.020 that's loving it, time of their lives. And they don't want this gravy train to end. And it's just the
00:24:14.140 little people. And I don't know, I hope that there's a judge who understands that no matter what the
00:24:20.940 peer pressure is, no matter what his friends at the country clubs say down in Barbados,
00:24:27.580 did the little people have the rule of law too, including those in church? I want to talk just for a
00:24:31.260 minute about Pastor James Coates. And we've had a petition called Free Pastor James. And I know
00:24:38.300 you've done a lot of interviews. I think you were, you were doing some interviews in the U.S.
00:24:42.300 And we did, I mean, ironically and predictably, the imprisonment of Pastor James Coates has had more
00:24:50.940 news coverage in America than it has in Canada. Would you agree with me on that?
00:24:54.940 That's definitely the way it appears. Yes.
00:24:57.020 And that's a shame right there. That shows you this lockdownism is the state religion in Canada.
00:25:04.380 He's in what? He's been in prison for two weeks now. Is that right?
00:25:09.180 He went into jail on February the 20th, sorry, February the 16th. So it's already been, I think,
00:25:17.420 more than two weeks now that he's behind bars for basically refusing to comply with
00:25:23.180 unscientific and unconstitutional health orders that have been, you know, promulgated by way of
00:25:32.780 chief medical officer news conferences rather than the legislative assembly of Alberta.
00:25:39.340 So if my math is right, he's now in his 16th day. He's now starting his 16th day in,
00:25:46.300 is he still in the maximum security Edmonton Remand Center?
00:25:48.940 He's in the Edmonton Remand Center and he was supposed to have one cellmate for the first 14 days.
00:25:58.700 I don't know if he's been transferred into a different cell in the past day or two with the
00:26:05.500 14 days being up. And there's another example of how inconsistently these rules are applied.
00:26:11.980 You know, he's supposed to be quarantined for 14 days, you know, because of COVID,
00:26:17.900 and yet he's put in with a cellmate. I don't think he minded being put in with a cellmate.
00:26:22.540 Yeah.
00:26:23.020 But, you know, it's just...
00:26:24.700 It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense. And that very same prison, I'm somewhat familiar
00:26:30.700 with that prison. They let out 400 convicts or people being held on bail for violent offenses in the
00:26:37.420 name of the virus. So they let out 400 real or suspected criminals, but they put the pastor in
00:26:44.140 for 15 days. And yeah, I didn't understand that, how it could be quarantined, but he's in there with
00:26:51.980 the criminal in the same cell. None of it makes sense other than, same thing as those cops going
00:26:57.900 into that church in Calgary. It's about, you know, as they say,
00:27:01.340 pour encourager les autres, to threaten the others, to make an example out of them. If you want cops with
00:27:08.700 guns in your church, if you don't want your pastor thrown in prison with an accused violent criminal
00:27:14.460 or whatever, then you better comply. It's a unique guy who doesn't bend the knee 16 days running in
00:27:23.340 prison. That's a rare person to have that kind of strength. Like, that's a diamond of strength.
00:27:31.900 And something tells me, now his hearing's tomorrow, right? He ain't gonna... If he's in prison 16 days,
00:27:38.060 he's suddenly not gonna lose his faith. He's not suddenly gonna bend the knee to Caesar. What's
00:27:43.740 gonna happen? Well, we're hopeful that on Thursday, March the 4th, we're hopeful to get
00:27:51.100 a ruling same day to release him from prison. If that fails, then he could be behind bars for
00:27:59.500 another eight weeks. And this is in a context where, you know, the norm in Canada is that
00:28:07.020 unless you've been charged with murder or rape or serious assault, the normal course of action is that
00:28:14.380 you are released until your time of trial. And Pastor Coates certainly has no intention of avoiding
00:28:22.460 the trial dates now scheduled for May 3rd, 4th, and 5th. He has no intention of leaving the country or
00:28:29.340 not showing up for trial. So there's no valid reason for him to be in prison. And, you know,
00:28:35.900 hopefully we get them released on Thursday, March, March the 4th.
00:28:40.140 You know, I know you got to run, but I'm just doing the math here. When I was a law student
00:28:43.660 in Edmonton, and the very first time I went to docket court as a student, I sat and watched and I saw
00:28:52.140 a man convicted of sexual assault. And he was sentenced to 30 days in jail, sexual assault 30 days, which
00:29:00.300 means he would have been out in 10 days, possibly five. This pastor, if you say, if what you say
00:29:09.500 happens, if he's been in there for 16 days and has another eight weeks, that's like 10 weeks. And in
00:29:17.260 that hard time, in that maximum security, it's like 20 weeks. That is an actual sentence that someone who
00:29:25.100 commits second degree murder would serve, or at least a violent assault. He is being, the amount
00:29:33.340 of hard time he's serving, I'm saying, John, maybe my numbers are off by a little bit. But when you
00:29:38.620 have parole in this country, full parole, day parole, statutory release, no one ever serves their full
00:29:43.420 time. For a pastor to actually sit in prison 10 weeks in a hard facility like that, that is tantamount
00:29:51.420 to what a violent gun shooting robber would get. Am I wrong on that? Are my numbers off
00:29:57.500 by a lot there? Or is that more or less right?
00:30:01.580 You know, obviously, the sentence imposed on violent criminals will vary on, you know,
00:30:08.620 based on the circumstances. And the criminals, you know, got a long track record of committing
00:30:16.380 crimes and a bunch of other factors. But the central point that Pastor, I agree entirely with
00:30:23.340 the central point that Pastor, Pastor Coates is serving more hard time than a lot of criminals are.
00:30:32.060 And I think as well that the fact that these health orders have been challenged in court by the Justice
00:30:39.180 Centre in another court action should also be taken into account by the judge. This is not some law
00:30:49.260 that people accept as constitutional or as being properly enacted by the legislature. This is a law that
00:30:58.540 is before the courts under challenge as well. And I think that should be taken into account.
00:31:07.420 So it's pretty bad. I mean, we've really regressed in the past 11, 12 months. We're very rapidly moving
00:31:16.380 in the direction of being something like, you know, a country like China or Russia or Cuba or North Korea.
00:31:23.980 We're not quite there. But that's a direction that we're moving in very, very quickly when you've got
00:31:29.420 pastors in jail simply for exercising their constitutional freedoms in the face of very
00:31:35.980 very evidence-free, science-free public health orders.
00:31:40.220 Yeah. It meets the definition of a political prisoner. Absolutely it does.
00:31:46.620 John, I'd like to encourage our viewers, and we do this all the time, I'd like to encourage our viewers
00:31:52.220 to visit your website at jccf.ca. Is that right?
00:31:56.300 That's correct. Yep.
00:31:57.980 You're a registered charity. So if folks want to chip in to help your good work, not only will they
00:32:03.420 have the moral satisfaction, but they'll also get a receipt for the CRA purposes. So that's at jccf.ca.
00:32:12.140 Keep it up. We'll keep reporting on it. Someone's got to, because the CBC ain't.
00:32:18.140 So we'll keep at it. You keep at it, okay?
00:32:21.180 Thanks, Ezra. Have a great day.
00:32:23.100 You too. There you have it. John Carpe, he's the boss of the Justice Center for Constitutional
00:32:26.380 Freedoms. I'm going to save their website one more time, jccf.ca. Boy, is he busy. Three days
00:32:32.380 in court in Vancouver, fighting for religious freedom there. Then up to Edmonton, fighting for
00:32:37.740 religious freedom for Pastor James Coates. I predict that James Coates, the pastor, will remain
00:32:44.620 in prison for the eight shocking weeks that John has predicted. And in doing so,
00:32:52.060 he will serve more time than many violent criminals. Stay with us more ahead.
00:33:07.420 Hey, welcome back on my show last night. MJ writes, 99.5% survival rate. And for this,
00:33:12.700 children are being tortured. Yeah, you know, I saw a clip out of the United Kingdom today.
00:33:17.420 Their schools department made an official announcement that no kids should wear masks.
00:33:22.300 It's just too damaging to their psychology. Here, let me play a quick clip for me. This
00:33:25.980 is from the UK. How come their science says take the masks off kids and ours says force it on them?
00:33:30.940 Take a look. School children have the lower amount of infection,
00:33:33.980 especially primary school children. And in looking at it, we've talked to educationalists,
00:33:38.620 public health and clinical specialists. And the consensus view is very strongly to not
00:33:44.300 advise school children at primary school age to wear face coverings. This for two reasons. One is
00:33:49.980 that they can have difficulties wearing them and keeping them on all day. And the second part of
00:33:54.300 that is that it's really important that they can see facial expressions in order to develop their
00:33:58.940 communications and language skills. Schools have delivered a lot of measures to reduce the risk in
00:34:05.340 schools. And additional plans to test families of primary school children will also be in place as
00:34:11.180 schools go back. And therefore, the strong recommendation is for primary school children
00:34:15.500 not to wear masks. Yeah, it's it. Look, it's all politics, people. Laurel writes, leaving a young
00:34:21.740 child alone in a closed room to fend for themselves, stating the obvious is beyond negligent.
00:34:26.620 $5,000 fine. Wouldn't family services normally be involved for child abuse and neglect?
00:34:31.500 If this were reported to the police, oh, you're exactly right. Every bloody one of these health
00:34:36.060 officers is a child abuser in the way that we're describing here, forcing children to go under
00:34:42.060 psychological and physical treatment that is unacceptable, unscientific and unhealthy.
00:34:49.260 Jer writes, the picture of the breakfast served at the COVID jail spoke a thousand words about this
00:34:54.060 government. Yeah, Keen kept showing me that picture of his breakfast, one Eggo and a little crepe or
00:34:59.660 something. And it did look meager. And looking at me, you know that I wouldn't have lasted an hour
00:35:05.820 in that jail from a food point of view. But the bigger problem is, I mean, let's say they had a
00:35:10.540 lovely breakfast. Let's say they had a wonderful breakfast with steak and eggs and fresh fruit and
00:35:16.700 orange juice and coffee and just, or even the full English, as they say. It still wouldn't be
00:35:23.020 acceptable because it's the violation of our basic liberties. It's incarcerating us,
00:35:29.020 even though we committed no crime. It's treating us as if we're sick, even though we're healthy,
00:35:34.300 treating us like criminals, even though we're innocent and stopping us from coming home to our
00:35:38.220 own country. That's why it's wrong. The food is insult to injury, but the injury is the incarceration.
00:35:45.580 Well, we'll fight for these things. I promise you that.
00:35:47.900 That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:35:52.140 to you at home, good night. And keep fighting for freedom.