Rebel News Podcast - Cancel culture： The world has gone mad — and no-one is crazier than the Media Party

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through some of the madness that's going on in our

00:00:03.400 cancel culture, including the case of a St. Louis family who defended their house with firearms

00:00:09.160 and how the media reported it. But what really happened, I hope you enjoy it. And you know what?

00:00:14.120 This is one of those podcasts where you really need to see it, to see the family, to see the

00:00:19.080 house, to see the mob. I encourage you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. It's eight bucks

00:00:24.500 a month or 80 bucks for a year. And you get the video version of this podcast. I want you to see

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00:00:34.620 That's all at Rebel News Plus. All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:52.060 Tonight, we're through the looking glass now, folks. The world has gone mad and no one is

00:00:57.060 crazier than the media party. It's June 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:03.500 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:07.120 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:11.180 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's

00:01:15.580 my bloody right to do so.

00:01:17.020 Hey, did you see this headline the other day? Maybe you saw it on social media. It's from 0.64

00:01:27.280 the Washington Post. Trump keeps claiming that the most dangerous cities in America are all

00:01:32.100 run by Democrats. They aren't. Oh, okay. It's written by the fabulously named Philip Bump.

00:01:38.860 We've talked about him before. But it's the Washington Post, so you know it's true, right?

00:01:42.960 Except look at the chart in their own newspaper, in their own article. Same chart. The headline,

00:01:49.500 which is all 90% of people will read, certainly on social media, is that Trump was lying when he

00:01:55.520 said the most dangerous cities are Democrat-run. They're not. But yeah, they are actually. Here's

00:02:01.440 the chart from the Washington Post. The same story. Only one Republican city is in the top 20 most

00:02:09.120 violent cities in America by raw numbers of crimes. And there are no Republican cities in the top 20

00:02:15.440 violent cities per capita, as in per population. It's just a fact. They admit the fact, but that

00:02:22.920 headline, why? Why the lies? And from a fact checker from Philip Bump, no less. Hey, also from the

00:02:30.640 Washington Post. Look at this. Did you see this? St. Louis couple point guns at peaceful crowd of

00:02:38.460 protesters calling for mayor to resign. Wow, that couple sounds awful. Sounds really mean. And that

00:02:44.260 peaceful crowd sounds so peaceful. I know whose side I'm on after reading the Washington Post

00:02:49.160 until I read these facts buried in a news story. This is from the Chicago Tribune. Mark McCloskey told

00:02:57.380 KMOV-TV that a mob rushed toward the home as the family was having dinner and put us in fear of our

00:03:05.000 lives. This is all private property. There are no public sidewalks or public streets. We were told

00:03:10.100 that we would be killed. Our home burned and our dog killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob,

00:03:18.760 McCloskey said. Oh, I thought it was peaceful protesters. And hang on. Was it a public sidewalk or private?

00:03:30.980 Was it in fact a private community that they all broke into? Why, yes, you can see the mob pouring through

00:03:38.160 a gate here and seeing that magnificent house and accosting the homeowners, the McCloskeys. Is that a public road? 0.98

00:03:45.980 Actually, no. The whole area was private property. A sign on the gate door said so that they all

00:03:53.660 passed through. Can you believe a word people say anymore? And by people, I mean the media,

00:03:59.780 the fact checker, Mr. Bump, and every other media. Of course, you cannot believe a word they say.

00:04:08.000 It's part of cancel culture out there. It's part of the madness out there. If you're not perfect your

00:04:12.620 entire life, you will be denounced as an evil enemy and thrown out by the mob. A mob that is

00:04:17.520 literally using a guillotine as its symbol these days. You know, there's this funny gal on YouTube, 0.98

00:04:25.020 Jenna Marbles is his name. Silly, goofy, made famous by her self-deprecating humor. Her big video was a 0.99

00:04:30.740 mockery of herself. That's the funniest source of humor, isn't it? Making fun of yourself all the time.

00:04:35.020 She called it how to trick people into thinking you're good looking. That's so funny. A silly gal 1.00

00:04:41.320 making silly gags. Billions of views. All of them jokes, really. Not really being too mean to anybody, 1.00

00:04:48.260 but just jabbing everything a little bit. But now she's just quitting. After first denouncing 1.00

00:04:54.820 herself for making some videos that are problematic. What? That's every video about everything or

00:05:01.140 anything. But no, she knows she has to accuse herself before somebody else does. Maybe they'll

00:05:06.480 go easier on her that way. All right. So I get it. I feel like we're at a time where we are purging

00:05:16.160 ourselves of anything and everything toxic. And I'm being requested that I address things that I've done

00:05:27.720 in my past. I also get a lot of tweets from people that are saying like, we love you, you unproblematic

00:05:35.060 queen. Which always makes me uncomfortable because I'm a person. Those of you that are familiar with how

00:05:42.800 long I've been on the internet know that that's not true. That I've definitely done things in the past

00:05:48.560 that weren't great. And I'm not completely unproblematic. Is there any work of art that can

00:05:55.540 withstand the perfectly woke mob? If a work of art isn't itself problematic, then an artist surely

00:06:02.680 is. Real or imagine nothing from the Renaissance could possibly survive this test. No sculpture,

00:06:08.020 no painting. It's all patriarchal and violent and misogynistic. And don't get me started on trans 1.00

00:06:12.980 rights. I mean, Leonardo da Vinci, where was he on trans rights? Everything, anything must be denounced, 1.00

00:06:20.300 except it seems that the denouncers have the dirtiest hands. Gerald Butts, Trudeau's denouncer

00:06:26.520 in chief. Well, he tweeted a bizarre infographic mocking blacks and aboriginals the other day saying

00:06:32.220 Alaska is rape central, calling parts of America white Congo. What does he mean by that part? Is he 0.93

00:06:38.800 using Congo as an insult? In what way is he saying that part of America is white people acting like

00:06:45.640 black people? Is that what he meant? He lied when he was asked about it, claiming he never even

00:06:51.660 looked at it, what he tweeted. And he's just as mortified as you are. But he's lying about that too.

00:06:57.320 He looked at it and he laughed at it and he went through it with his boss and they all laughed at

00:07:01.260 it together. So he's the accuser? He's the judge of whether you're racist? He's Trudeau's blackface 0.77

00:07:08.360 right-hand man, excusologist. How many people did Wendy Mensley denounce as racist? Us included. 0.94

00:07:14.600 She was the one dropping n-bombs at work. Here's a great tweet by James Woods, the Hollywood actor,

00:07:19.440 one of the few conservatives. The wokest liberals all seem to have done blackface. How does that

00:07:24.340 happen? I don't know anyone who's done blackface and I travel around. I don't know anyone. Is that

00:07:29.780 why they all accuse others first to distract from their own misconduct? It's like Trudeau the Groper

00:07:34.420 saying he's a feminist. You know, Harvey Weinstein said he was a feminist too. He's a serial rapist.

00:07:41.160 So who's going to stand up to this madness? It is a madness. It's hard to stand up to madness when 1.00

00:07:46.000 it's the madness of crowds. Peer pressure is so incredibly powerful. Here's one young girl

00:07:52.360 trying to be herself, not part of the mob. I pity what they will do to her. We live in an age of

00:08:00.460 terror, not just violent terrorism, of which there is still plenty, but the terror of the mob,

00:08:05.400 the terror of cancel culture, the terror of being accused of something, anything, and having no

00:08:09.280 defense because the charges are indefensible. There are no defenses. That is the age we're in.

00:08:14.320 We're doing our best here at Rebel News to stand up to it. Our next guest, well, he's a victim of it.

00:08:20.800 Listen to this.

00:08:22.220 Hey, I want to show you a video clip from the United States that I think sums up some of the absurdity

00:08:38.860 of the recent mania in regards to cancel culture, accusations of racism. It's a white girl shouting 0.83

00:08:48.680 that a black cop is racist. You've got to see it to believe it. Take a look at this. 0.99

00:08:55.240 That way, that's impressive. It's just like a little drawing.

00:08:59.260 Was that intimidating? It's just like, you're trying to have a conversation. You have a point

00:09:02.920 you're not behind. There's no point to have that conversation.

00:09:05.220 Amazing. Everyone moved that way.

00:09:06.300 You have to be able to be open for both of our stories.

00:09:08.980 Amazing, sir. Amazing. Everyone moved over. Impressive. They didn't even handle it.

00:09:13.060 You can't have a conversation.

00:09:13.680 They couldn't handle it, sir. I wasn't talking to you, sir. I'm talking to white people. 0.93

00:09:17.480 Yeah. Oh, because I can't be racist, right?

00:09:21.120 No, sir. I was talking to him.

00:09:22.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:23.520 Systemically. Systemically, no, sir. Systemically, racism can only be white. Systemically, sir.

00:09:31.240 Individually, it can be a different color, but systemically, it can only be white.

00:09:35.420 She goes on to criticize a white officer who's married to a black woman, saying, despite that, 0.86

00:09:40.460 he is racist. It was quite an exchange. And it reminded me of a recent fiasco 0.87

00:09:47.340 in Alberta where the disgraced NDP leader, Rachel Notley, who is so white she's pink. And by

00:09:54.420 the way, I've got nothing against white people myself. I am white. She denounced as racist,

00:10:02.400 and I think she even implied he was anti-Semitic, an Aboriginal man, a status Indian, who is on

00:10:10.020 various high-ranking judicial committees in the province. He's a Queen's Counsel, which

00:10:17.800 is a very senior rank for a lawyer. He himself is a status Indian who works out of Cold Lake,

00:10:24.240 Alberta. Not only is he ethnically First Nations, but he does charitable works in the First Nations

00:10:33.180 community. He founded the Lakeland Sports and Learning Academy, a non-profit for Aboriginal kids

00:10:40.020 in that area. He is a champion of Aboriginals within the law. And Rachel Notley accused him of bias,

00:10:51.120 and had him drummed out of legal offices because of some conservative Facebook posts. Unacceptable.

00:11:00.400 Unacceptable. Incredible. My friend Sheila Gunn-Reed had an excellent video on the subject,

00:11:05.000 but we reached out to the lawyer in question. Leighton Gray is his name. He joins us now via Skype

00:11:11.400 from Cold Lake, Alberta. Mr. Gray, what a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for taking the time to come on

00:11:15.660 our show. It's my pleasure. At least I could do after what Sheila Gunn-Reed did for me and coming out

00:11:22.720 supporting me and pointing out really the hypocrisy of the BBC piece that was done about me. Well,

00:11:30.760 about me, but really more about conservatives everywhere, I think. Well, I've seen this before.

00:11:36.720 I mean, anytime someone doesn't fit the mold of a conservative, and you don't even have to be very

00:11:41.560 conservative. If you are black, if you are aboriginal, if you are gay, if you're anyone

00:11:48.900 who is not supposed to be conservative, you get defamed brutally. And we saw that bizarre street 0.98

00:11:57.100 incident where the liberal white girl was shouting at black cops that they were racist. That's what 1.00

00:12:01.920 this felt like. In this case, it wasn't just Rachel Notley. It felt like the CBC itself was leading the

00:12:09.780 mob against you. Tell us a little bit about what happened from your point of view. Well, I think

00:12:17.360 the genesis of what happened to me actually started with a group of a lawyer's group called the

00:12:23.700 Indian Trial Lawyers Association of Alberta. And a gentleman, a lawyer who was mentioned in the CBC

00:12:30.560 piece named Tom Engel. Towards the end of May, CBC ran a piece that was written by the Indian Rachel

00:12:39.740 Ward that had nothing to do with my appointment to the Provincial Court Nomination Committee. But she 0.77

00:12:47.320 strung it together. And she contacted my office. And she wanted to ask me about the connection between

00:12:55.120 this other story, which was about a Native man named Clayton Bruchet, and my appointment to the

00:13:01.120 board. And I didn't respond. She ran the piece anyway. And even though the Clayton Bruchet story had

00:13:07.560 nothing to do with me, it was all connected to me and the Provincial Court Nomination Committee. I thought

00:13:14.560 and hope that was the end of it. But it turns out, based upon some lists or emails about someone that

00:13:20.340 were originally out of the Criminal Trial Lawyers Association, that there was something in the works that

00:13:27.740 grew in successive weeks, where there was coordination between the CBC or at least Mr. Engel, the NDP, and the

00:13:35.560 CDC. And so about 10 days ago, Rachel Ward contacted my office. She contacted me by email. I didn't respond. She

00:13:53.280 contacted me again, this time in a very threatening way, indicating that if I didn't respond, she was going to

00:14:00.560 publish all kinds of unsavory things about me, that I was a racist, that I was anti-Semitic, and so on.

00:14:08.560 I sought legal advice. And the advice was that I probably should not respond until I saw the piece. She emailed

00:14:18.560 my office at least three times. The most concerning thing, however, was when she couldn't get hold of me, or when I

00:14:24.560 would respond by email, she actually called my reception at my office and spoke to my receptionist, and

00:14:32.560 indicated to me that, or to her, that I was a racist. And that lady was very distraught. She's worked for me for

00:14:42.560 many years, a wonderful lady, a great employee, and she was very upset. I found out subsequently that, I'm not a

00:14:48.560 defamation expert, but I received some advice that the reason for that is that CBC can avoid liability

00:14:56.560 for defamation if they show that they've given notice to the person they're about to throw under

00:15:02.560 the bus. So what happened at that point was the story was published on the Friday, going back about

00:15:12.560 10 days. And it was a salacious piece. Those who saw it, I mean, unfortunate in a sense, I guess, because

00:15:22.560 based on a recent survey, only about 3% of Canadians paying attention to the CBC, even though we funded

00:15:28.560 100%. But there certainly was sufficient notoriety that I was contacted by the Ministry, and they

00:15:40.560 indicated to me that they were going to be making a change based on the publicity. And this is all based

00:15:48.560 upon some social media posts that Sheila Gunn-Reed really elaborated upon quite well. But the crux of it

00:15:58.560 was based on a smooth interpretation of some social media posts. They presented this picture of me as

00:16:06.560 as someone who was unsuitable or unfit. That was the way Mr. Engel described.

00:16:12.560 So let me pause there, because you've raised so many interesting things. I want to get into them a little bit

00:16:18.560 before we move on to other subjects. So the first thing is you believe, and you have some evidence based on

00:16:24.560 the emails and who was talking to whom, that Tom Engel, who's an anti-police lawyer, sort of a radical leftist

00:16:30.560 lawyer in Edmonton, the CBC, that they were coordinating with each other to basically whip up a campaign

00:16:40.560 against you? Is that what you're saying, that the CBC was working with this left-wing advocacy group,

00:16:46.560 the Criminal Trial Lawyers Association, to get you kicked off of this judicial appointment committee?

00:16:52.560 Are you accurately stating what you've observed?

00:16:54.560 Right. I'm not a member of the TTLA, but my partner in our office, Mr. Hart Spencer, is.

00:17:02.560 And so he saw these emails. And of course, at one point, Mr. Engel realizes in the listserv that I'm

00:17:12.560 probably seeing emails. But when you go back through the emails, it's very clear that Mr. Engel was

00:17:18.560 coordinating with, talking to the CBC. And of course, throughout this time, the NDP was attacking the

00:17:25.560 minister, Mr. Schweitzer, in the House, and using my name specifically, and saying that this person is

00:17:31.560 unfit and shouldn't be on the board because of mine.

00:17:34.560 So what were the actual tweets or Facebook comments, I think they were, that got the NDP so incensed here?

00:17:42.560 So, I mean, you've got the NDP, the CBC, the Trial Lawyers Association, all working hand in glove.

00:17:48.560 What was it that got under their skin? Was there a particular phrase or did you like something you

00:17:55.560 weren't supposed to like? Were you too conservative for them?

00:17:59.560 Yeah, well, I think one of them was a Black Lives Matter post that depicted two black men. And the

00:18:06.560 crux of it was all lives matter. And that's what they were saying. And I simply reposted

00:18:12.560 that because I thought it was a very positive message. But that was interpreted as, you know,

00:18:19.560 I don't know if I was some sort of heretical advocate against Black Lives Matter.

00:18:23.560 So literally saying all lives matter, and by the way, you're a status ending, you're an Aboriginal man,

00:18:28.560 you could, you know, I think Aboriginal lives matter, Indigenous lives matter. You yourself have a deep

00:18:37.560 stake in that. We could talk about this a little bit later. You're a lawyer for plaintiffs seeking

00:18:43.560 compensation for treatment, that they mistreatment under residential schools. So you show in your daily

00:18:50.560 life that all lives matter to you. But saying that was somehow disqualifying in the eyes of the NDP,

00:18:57.560 the CBC, and this activist lawyer, Tom Engel.

00:19:02.560 Right. And it's a great example, really, of how the left and the whole cancer culture works.

00:19:09.560 It doesn't really matter who you are, or what your background is, if you're saying the wrong things. For

00:19:16.560 example, in 2019, I received a very prestigious award from the Alberta Sahel Trials Association,

00:19:24.560 Gary J. Big Humanitarian Justice Award. I received that award for my work over the past 20 years on behalf of Indigenous litigants.

00:19:34.560 But in the cancer culture, that doesn't seem to matter. The only people who get a free pass seem to be the

00:19:41.560 ones who are clearly on the left, useful to the left. The most obvious example is our Prime Minister seems to be

00:19:48.560 capable of saying anything to anyone at any time. And he's given a pass. Whereas people who say things or

00:19:57.560 express views that might be considered conservative, they will expose themselves to this type of cancel culture.

00:20:07.560 And I can tell you, as someone who's lived it, it is quite horrifying. In my line of work, your reputation is your life, it is your business.

00:20:18.560 And I've spent more than 30 years developing it, growing it, nurturing it, serving my clients to the best of my ability.

00:20:26.560 And then, in a moment, some people who want to use you in order to serve a certain purpose that's useful to the left,

00:20:38.560 in this case, the MVP, they're able to destroy that reputation or attempt to destroy it.

00:20:46.560 In hindsight, I don't believe that's true. However, it has impacted me professionally.

00:20:53.560 I have received a tremendous outpouring of support from Rebel News and other people in the profession,

00:21:00.560 in the community. I'm grateful for that. But there are also a few hate speakers. There's a lady who contacted my office

00:21:06.560 and left a message describing me as a horrible racist. And, you know, for example, the anti-Semite claim,

00:21:15.560 that one's really interesting because only in April, I published regularly on a blog,

00:21:21.560 in April, I wrote a paper about a wonderful man named Martin Hoover, who is a Jewish theologian.

00:21:29.560 At the 20th century, I described in my paper as one of the most brilliant religious papers of the 20th century.

00:21:38.560 So that's really odd speech from someone who is supposedly anti-Semitic. But it's a good example of how, 0.99

00:21:45.560 in this sort of lack of discourse, how the left will ignore the parts of your reputation that you are

00:21:53.560 that don't serve a particular narrative, and they'll focus on and twist certain things that are said

00:21:59.560 that will focus, that will heighten and exacerbate a certain narrative that is useful to them.

00:22:05.560 And I use myself as a pawn in this particular game.

00:22:09.560 So you're a status Indian, indigenous man yourself. You're a follower, and I guess I would say a student,

00:22:16.560 of the Jewish thinker Martin Hoover. I understand that you've recently hired various minority lawyers,

00:22:23.560 Muslim lawyers included. I mean, frankly, the left, if you were a man of the left,

00:22:29.560 would call you the greatest hero and they would be nominating you for the Supreme Court of Canada.

00:22:34.560 Because you tick all of their identity boxes, you know, pro-Jewish, pro-Muslim, status Indian, lawyer, charitable,

00:22:43.560 you know, you're in Cold Lake, like seriously, fast track to the Supreme Court for you.

00:22:49.560 But because you're a conservative, and by the way, saying all lives matter isn't even a conservative point of view.

00:22:54.560 It's just saying, I'm not, I'm going to treat everyone equally.

00:22:59.560 Because of that, you were canceled. But you said that, I think I heard you say that as a reaction to this media manufactured storm,

00:23:08.560 I think I heard you say that the minister, the Department of Justice called you up to kick you off the Judicial Advisory Committee.

00:23:16.560 Just for our viewers who don't know, that's the group that helps vet and suggest people who should become lawyers.

00:23:24.560 So it's, it's like a consultation with experts. And your role, I would imagine, is not just to provide legal scrutiny,

00:23:32.560 but to say, hey, well, there's this, maybe there's this bright Aboriginal lawyer over here that we should put on the provincial court.

00:23:38.560 So like, so, so frankly, not only are you there for your legal smarts, but you know Aboriginal law.

00:23:45.560 So you're on this Judicial Appointment Committee Advisory Committee.

00:23:50.560 Did you say that you got a call from the department asking you to step down?

00:23:57.560 Well, they didn't put it in those terms. They made it clear to me that because of the pressure, because of the pressure that was coming,

00:24:05.560 and because of some of the content of the CBC piece, that they were going to be going into another direction.

00:24:11.560 And they gave me the choice of whether or not to resign or to be removed. And I thought it would be more appropriate.

00:24:21.560 I mean, it's important to remember that I was given the appointment by the provincial government.

00:24:28.560 And so I felt some degree of responsibility to them.

00:24:32.560 I didn't want to do anything else that might cause them to be embarrassed.

00:24:39.560 And so that was why I did that.

00:24:42.560 Well, the reason I ask you that, Mr. Gray, is because Doug Schweitzer, the justice minister,

00:24:49.560 he publicly said, no, no, no, we didn't fire him. He resigned.

00:24:54.560 But what I'm learning from you here is you got a phone call that said, yeah, we're going in a different direction.

00:25:01.560 Basically, would you please resign to save us from the additional insult and injury of us firing you, that they called you up?

00:25:11.560 But you didn't go to them and voluntarily resign.

00:25:14.560 They called you and let you know, told you the writing was on the wall.

00:25:18.560 And then later, Doug Schweitzer said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't do that. He resigned.

00:25:22.560 I think he's telling a porky because he let it be known that it was you who decided. 0.98

00:25:30.560 But in fact, it sounds like they stimulated your resignation with that call that obviously had that in mind.

00:25:37.560 Am I wrong in that?

00:25:39.560 I think I want to say a couple of things about Mr. Schweitzer.

00:25:42.560 First of all, he did defend me in the House quite vigorously, and I'm grateful for that.

00:25:49.560 I didn't see his comment after the fact. I think the best way to put it is I was presented with a dilemma.

00:25:55.560 And for me, the least worst option was to resign.

00:25:58.560 But it was made pretty clear to me that I was going to be removed whether I resigned or not.

00:26:04.560 You know, I'm very disappointed in that because the thing is, when you give in to the mob, it strengthens the mob.

00:26:14.560 The appetite grows. Its appetite grows the more it eats.

00:26:19.560 And if it can take you out, a status Indian, indigenous man on a judicial advisory committee, well, then maybe it can even take out a judge. 0.91

00:26:29.560 Maybe it can take out a cabinet minister. 0.99

00:26:31.560 And all for slurs and exaggerations and, I mean, seriously, saying all lives matter is grounds to take out a queen's council. 0.52

00:26:44.560 I think that this is a very bad turn of events.

00:26:47.560 And I'm not here to give you legal advice.

00:26:50.560 You're the lawyer, not me. You're the QC.

00:26:52.560 But I got to tell you, they smeared you as a racist.

00:26:56.560 And Rachel Notley did so outside the house and she just went on a real tear against you. 0.96

00:27:00.560 I got to tell you, I mean, you have your own you have your own responsibilities and your own priorities.

00:27:09.560 But I if it were me, I mean, maybe I'm more conflict oriented than you.

00:27:15.560 But I would I would take her to court and I would say, you prove all those things.

00:27:19.560 You prove I'm a racist. You prove I'm an anti-Semite.

00:27:21.560 And look at the damage you've done. You pushed me off the judicial advisory committee.

00:27:25.560 You blackened my name in the community 30 years and you did it all for partisan gang.

00:27:29.560 And flush out her secret collusion with the CBC and Tom Engel and his group.

00:27:36.560 I don't know. I don't mean to. It's not my place to give you advice.

00:27:39.560 But if I didn't say this to you, I wish I would wish I would.

00:27:44.560 And I don't even know if you're time limited because I think her statements are still out on the Internet.

00:27:48.560 I think the CBC smeared you. But I know for a fact that Rachel Notley went even further than what the CBC said.

00:27:55.560 And I I don't think you should sit at the side of the road as roadkill.

00:27:59.560 I think you should fight back.

00:28:01.560 Well, I I'm not your equal in terms of conflict-oriented Ezra. You're the champion.

00:28:07.560 But I am a litigation lawyer. And I will tell you that this is something that is being seriously considered in my camp.

00:28:18.560 I think that I think where I stepped in it in terms of the political correctness.

00:28:24.560 And that's almost an archaic term that we're well beyond political correctness.

00:28:28.560 But I posted on social media that, and Sheila Gangwee brought this out in her piece, that I was not going to be governed by biases.

00:28:40.560 Things like inclusion, diversity, which to the left are words that do not mean what they should mean in the Oxford English District.

00:28:49.560 And so my what I said and what got me in trouble was that in terms of selecting special candidates, I was going to support people who are the best, most qualified candidates for the job.

00:29:02.560 And when you're talking about selected judges, these are people who have enormous power, great discretion, and seriously impact not only individual lives, corporate lives,

00:29:14.560 but the scope and the movement of our society.

00:29:19.560 When you're talking about such an important position, in my view, and I said this publicly, and again, I realize this is a conservative view, not an alt-right view, that we have to have the very best people for the job.

00:29:33.560 So that if, for example, we're looking at six candidates, and they were all, and the best, we're picking six people, and the six best were all women, I would vote for those six women.

00:29:44.560 If they're all black, I would vote for all the black. 1.00

00:29:47.560 If they were Jews, I'd vote for all the Jews. 1.00

00:29:49.560 I wouldn't care.

00:29:50.560 That was a mistake I made, because I said I was going to be oblivious to those things.

00:29:55.560 Not that I wouldn't consider them in the total mix, but I just, I indicated very strongly that we have to have, we're picking something that important.

00:30:05.560 You have to have the best people for the job.

00:30:08.560 And that, I saw that as my responsibility.

00:30:11.560 That's what got me into trouble.

00:30:13.560 And again, it's very ironic.

00:30:15.560 We're talking about inclusion and diversity.

00:30:18.560 And if I'm being added to a board like this on the basis of checking boxes like inclusion and diversity, I think it's very ironic that I'm being excluded because I would be there in order to add a diversity of views.

00:30:34.560 And this is why I say the left doesn't, when I talk about inclusion and diversity, it's not really talking about those things.

00:30:40.560 There's no diversity of views if you disagree with the left.

00:30:43.560 That's what I found out.

00:30:45.560 Well, I am deeply saddened by this entire situation.

00:30:51.560 It does not surprise me.

00:30:53.560 I've seen it 20 times.

00:30:54.560 And these days, I see it every day.

00:30:57.560 I hope this isn't the end of it.

00:30:59.560 You yourself will have to weigh whether you want to take legal action.

00:31:04.560 I mean, obviously, you've been thinking about that.

00:31:07.560 And I am probably more conflict-oriented than most.

00:31:11.560 But I think you ought to have another chapter.

00:31:15.560 Because just talking to you for these last 15 minutes, the things you're saying are things that the country needs, not just for a strong judicial system, but in terms of uniting people of different backgrounds.

00:31:29.560 And whether you're Jewish or Muslim or indigenous or white or whatever, to have that common ideal of unity and meritocracy.

00:31:39.560 I feel that by casting you aside, we've set back racial harmony and unity.

00:31:47.560 And we've added poison to the system.

00:31:49.560 And that may suit Tom Engel or Rachel Notley or the CBC.

00:31:53.560 But I think Alberta has been disserved by your ouster.

00:31:59.560 And I hope that in the course of events, you will not only return to the kind of public service that you had on the Judicial Advisory Committee.

00:32:07.560 And I understand the Law Society of Alberta also summarily fired you without even any notice.

00:32:13.560 I think you should sue them, too, by the way.

00:32:15.560 It is my hope that you return.

00:32:17.560 And you know what?

00:32:19.560 I think you should be appointed to the provincial court yourself.

00:32:22.560 And I think that that would be a level of moral restitution that would bring things into balance.

00:32:30.560 Because what I've heard from you about your experience, your service...

00:32:34.560 I didn't go through your legal and scholarly biography in your introduction.

00:32:39.560 But if anything, you need to come back bigger and stronger.

00:32:44.560 And I think the way to reset the equilibrium is to put you on the court.

00:32:52.560 That's my own view.

00:32:53.560 Not that the Justice Minister listens to me.

00:32:55.560 Leighton Gray, last word to you.

00:32:57.560 Tell me something positive.

00:32:58.560 Tell me what you're working on.

00:33:00.560 Tell me about the community organization, the hockey.

00:33:02.560 Give me something hopeful to leave on here.

00:33:05.560 Well, I remain a conservative.

00:33:09.560 I still believe that, you know, quoting John Stuart Mill, that the right of someone else's fist ends where my nose begins.

00:33:21.560 The left has tried to take off my head and my nose at the same time.

00:33:26.560 But, you know, to quote the Marvel movie, they should have gone for the head.

00:33:31.560 Because I'm still going to fight for what I believe is right.

00:33:37.560 I'm still working on behalf of our clients.

00:33:40.560 We have a class action involving Indigenous peoples here in Alberta.

00:33:45.560 And I'm very grateful, as I said, to support the FC.

00:33:49.560 I'm very grateful for the Rebel News to you and Sheila Gunry.

00:33:53.560 And I just want to encourage everyone out there who believes the same things that I believe,

00:34:02.560 and that I believe many conservatives stand for.

00:34:07.560 That this is the essence of our country.

00:34:09.560 And we all need to stand up.

00:34:12.560 We have to rise.

00:34:13.560 The left is our goals.

00:34:15.560 But that is their weakness.

00:34:19.560 No one is immune from the treatment that I received.

00:34:22.560 But that is not a good reason to stand in the shadow and be overrun by this group.

00:34:27.560 Now more than ever, we have to stand, we have to rise, and we have to say,

00:34:32.560 no, this is wrong.

00:34:33.560 This is what we believe in.

00:34:35.560 And we're not going to be governed by people who want to induce chaos on the basis of these sectarian views,

00:34:43.560 based upon, you know, category.

00:34:46.560 Douglas Murray talked about this in a wonderful book called The Baddest of the Crowd,

00:34:50.560 which I want anybody to read.

00:34:52.560 But based on things like race, or transgender, or being homosexual, or anything of that nature.

00:35:01.560 Those things really shouldn't divide us.

00:35:03.560 This is Canada.

00:35:04.560 There's room for everybody.

00:35:06.560 But there has to be a society where everyone's integrity, everyone's values, everyone's individual value is important and respected.

00:35:16.560 And the people who support the left need to understand, that's not where they're coming from.

00:35:21.560 When they talk about equality, that's not really what they're talking about.

00:35:27.560 When they talk about equity, they're not talking about family.

00:35:30.560 They're talking about, they're using these words in order to gather power, to gather a storm that's really designed to oppress people.

00:35:38.560 And I think the key thing here, the thing that I would say, is that I got in trouble because I thought I was living in a country

00:35:47.560 where freedom of expression is valued.

00:35:50.560 That's still protected in our Constitution.

00:35:53.560 I would encourage everyone to look at what happened to me.

00:35:57.560 And rather than be discouraged from coming forward, be encouraged.

00:36:01.560 And be brave.

00:36:02.560 And not be afraid to stand up and express your views.

00:36:05.560 Being conservative is not alright.

00:36:09.560 It's not hatred.

00:36:11.560 It's expressing, in my respect of you, a love of our country.

00:36:15.560 A love of Canada.

00:36:17.560 Well, that's very well said.

00:36:19.560 And right there, I think you proved my case, that you belong on the court.

00:36:24.560 And if my old friend Jason Kenney is watching, I think he should make a special inquiry.

00:36:30.560 Not a formal judicial inquiry.

00:36:32.560 I'm not talking, he should just make personal inquiries into how this went down.

00:36:36.560 And how this was a stitch up with the NDP, the CBC, and a left-wing trial lawyers association to derail a good man who was obviously on a good track.

00:36:47.560 And I think the way that the balance can be brought back is with a judicial appointment.

00:36:53.560 Leighton, great pleasure to talk with you.

00:36:54.560 We wish you all good things.

00:36:56.560 And it's nice to finally meet you.

00:36:58.560 Thank you very much, Ezra.

00:36:59.560 I appreciate it very much.

00:37:00.560 It's our pleasure.

00:37:01.560 All right.

00:37:02.560 Stay with us.

00:37:03.560 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:37:15.560 Welcome back on my show Friday on our encounter at Nathan Phillips Square outside the Toronto City Hall.

00:37:20.560 Sarah writes,

00:37:21.560 Wow.

00:37:22.560 Just wow.

00:37:23.560 Nice to see some truth revealed.

00:37:24.560 Thank you, Ezra and team.

00:37:25.560 Well, I appreciate you saying that.

00:37:26.560 It was a real team effort.

00:37:28.560 Besides the seven bodyguards, our lawyer Aaron was there.

00:37:31.560 You probably recognize them from our free speech battles.

00:37:33.560 And we brought five cameramen there to get at all the different angles.

00:37:37.560 And we have the folks back here at headquarters.

00:37:39.560 It really was a team effort.

00:37:40.560 I was very proud of our team.

00:37:42.560 And I think they really, I think that day we lived up to our ideals.

00:37:45.560 Don't you think?

00:37:46.560 I was very proud of everybody.

00:37:48.560 And no one on our team got scared and ran away.

00:37:51.560 Some of the security said, oh, we don't want to go back in.

00:37:53.560 But every one of our people went back in.

00:37:55.560 Lauren writes,

00:37:57.560 Thank you.

00:37:58.560 I am so sorry that you are risking your safety right in the center of the capital city of Ontario.

00:38:02.560 This is exceptional journalism.

00:38:04.560 Hey, thanks for saying that.

00:38:05.560 I was, I didn't feel at risk when I had the security around me.

00:38:10.560 I felt momentarily, I thought, yikes, when I'm walking back in, I sure hope the cops come,

00:38:14.560 because they would have roughed me up pretty bad, the protesters.

00:38:17.560 But the cops did come.

00:38:19.560 Steven writes,

00:38:20.560 I've subscribed for the year for this episode.

00:38:22.560 Thank you for all your work, Rebel.

00:38:25.560 Hey, thanks for saying that.

00:38:26.560 You know, we uploaded, we tweaked the version.

00:38:28.560 The version we gave you on Friday night was excellent.

00:38:30.560 But we tweaked it, added a few improvements and put that up on YouTube this morning.

00:38:35.560 And in just a few hours, it hit 100,000 views.

00:38:38.560 So it's certainly catching the imagination of a lot of Canadians and even people in other countries

00:38:42.560 who said, hey, maybe we can stand up to the mob.

00:38:45.560 I hope it's a template, a precedent, an inspiration for others.

00:38:49.560 Well, that's our show.

00:38:50.560 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:38:53.560 to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:38:56.560 Thank you for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - June 30, 2020

Cancel culture： The world has gone mad — and no-one is crazier than the Media Party

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