Rebel News Podcast - Catherine McKenna’s terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad week

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels, I've got a funny, shouty, tragic, weepy, drunk, story-free today, and

00:00:08.960 you know that I could only be told, when I say the word drunk, you're thinking, well,

00:00:12.880 that's Seamus O'Regan.

00:00:13.720 No, I'm talking about Catherine McKenna, the environment minister who has had a terrible

00:00:19.880 week.

00:00:21.200 She was in a Newfoundland bar drinking, and she thought she would do some drunk tweeting.

00:00:25.660 Don't do that.

00:00:26.580 If you're drunk, don't do that.

00:00:28.100 Don't drunk dial an X.

00:00:30.000 Don't do it.

00:00:30.960 Don't do it.

00:00:32.080 You may be lonely.

00:00:33.100 Don't do it.

00:00:34.840 And don't drunk tweet from a bar.

00:00:36.480 Don't do it.

00:00:37.960 She did it.

00:00:39.380 But she topped that. 0.98

00:00:40.820 She went further.

00:00:43.440 That's what my show's about today.

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00:01:23.960 Tonight, Catherine McKenna's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week.

00:01:28.700 It's May 31st, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:33.980 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:37.700 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:41.760 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:47.620 It's been a tough go lately for Catherine McKenna, Canada's shouty minister of, and this makes me laugh,

00:01:59.180 she's the minister of environment and climate change.

00:02:01.980 Or, as she says with a straight face, she's the minister in charge of the weather.

00:02:08.900 This is what she tweeted once.

00:02:10.440 It's starting to snow just in time for the parade.

00:02:13.600 As the minister responsible for weather, I'm either a hero or a zero.

00:02:19.240 Depends how you feel about winter.

00:02:22.960 Imagine the vanity, the narcissism, the detachment from reality.

00:02:26.940 Imagine the enablers around her. 0.97

00:02:29.260 Imagine her echo chamber.

00:02:30.600 Imagine the bizarre world in which she lives.

00:02:32.520 If she actually believes that she's in charge of the weather, that she's responsible for the weather,

00:02:41.640 and that people treat her as they should based on what they think of the weather,

00:02:45.960 because she's the one who, you know, ministered it.

00:02:50.280 So, she's responsible for it.

00:02:53.340 Imagine thinking that.

00:02:55.020 Imagine saying that.

00:02:56.520 Imagine having a staff of 21, 24 people, excuse me, who work on her Twitter communications, 24. 0.99

00:03:03.860 And not one of them said,

00:03:05.140 Boss, sorry to, you know, be a fly in the ointment, but that tweet's a little bit off.

00:03:11.460 It's a little bit self-centered.

00:03:12.520 It's a little bit, how do we say it?

00:03:14.080 A little bit unscientist.

00:03:15.280 A little bit, you know, crazy.

00:03:19.500 Not one of them said that.

00:03:20.860 This is a picture of the equally hapless gender quota cabinet minister Christia Freeland

00:03:27.100 with her crack team of Christia's angels 0.99

00:03:29.940 who got absolutely taken to the cleaners in the NAFTA negotiations with Trump.

00:03:36.400 Look at them.

00:03:37.220 Not one of them has even negotiated a house purchase in their life,

00:03:40.820 let alone negotiating the largest trade deal in our history.

00:03:43.540 They got smoked.

00:03:44.960 Now, I haven't seen a picture of McKenna's team of know-nothings. 0.88

00:03:48.180 I'm sure they look like that.

00:03:50.000 But with a little bit more hemp and open-toed sandals and lots of soy milk

00:03:54.280 and just sort of bongs and stuff.

00:03:57.740 Just a quick note about Freeland before I get back to McKenna.

00:04:01.840 Did you hear what U.S. Vice President Mike Pence said when he visited Canada yesterday?

00:04:06.240 Here, take a listen.

00:04:07.680 As talks progressed, and we talked in Lima, Peru,

00:04:11.080 during the Summit of the Americas last year,

00:04:13.560 I saw your determination.

00:04:15.660 Your determination to drive a hard bargain for Canada,

00:04:19.680 just as President Trump was driving a hard bargain for the United States of America.

00:04:23.360 Yeah.

00:04:26.840 You know, that's what the winner of any negotiation says to a loser.

00:04:30.680 It's the winner of any, you know, the winner of any game says to the loser.

00:04:35.060 You sure played well.

00:04:37.160 I mean, not well enough to beat me.

00:04:39.160 That's what you say to make someone feel better.

00:04:40.600 You know, when I was a student, I was just thinking of this.

00:04:42.700 I was, you know, 25 years ago, I was flipping through the TV channels.

00:04:45.500 And for a moment, I just stopped on a little documentary on Oprah Winfrey.

00:04:49.640 And for some reason, a part of it always stuck with me.

00:04:51.760 I don't really care about Oprah, but this part.

00:04:53.580 She was telling the story of how it was time to renew her contract.

00:04:56.700 She was just an employee of some media company.

00:04:58.740 And she said that she was visiting the company office.

00:05:01.660 And three different people in the same visit

00:05:03.600 complimented her on how good her lawyer was.

00:05:08.820 As in, the people she was negotiating against, the people she was supposed to be, you know,

00:05:15.820 taken to the cleaners, they all told her how much they liked her lawyer.

00:05:22.520 How much they liked her agent.

00:05:25.260 So she knew she had to fire her agent.

00:05:27.280 Because if someone is complimenting your agent, that's a way of saying,

00:05:30.960 you're being taken for a ride.

00:05:32.400 That's what Mike Pence just did to Canada.

00:05:34.480 Hey, guys, you know, Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland and her crack team of Chrystia's Angels,

00:05:41.660 they're very, very good negotiators.

00:05:45.060 Boy, did you guys ever take Donald Trump, the lifelong property developer and financier

00:05:52.100 in Manhattan, perhaps the most vicious industry in America.

00:05:55.240 Boy, did your team of millennials ever tune him.

00:05:59.340 You guys don't ever switch away from Trudeau and Freeland.

00:06:03.660 No, no, you guys, you Canadians want to keep them. 1.00

00:06:05.860 Take it from me and Donald Trump.

00:06:08.900 Yeah, McKenna is the same way, but on the global warming file.

00:06:11.620 If you listen to her rationale of why we need a carbon tax,

00:06:14.880 if you actually listen to it, and unfortunately I do,

00:06:17.200 she often says it's not going to achieve anything other than to set an example

00:06:21.880 for other countries.

00:06:24.400 An example.

00:06:24.960 As in, maybe if we tax our own people enough and shut down our own industries and make Canada 0.91

00:06:31.300 uncompetitive, that maybe Donald Trump's America or Xi Jinping's China will say,

00:06:37.740 hey, those Canadians are being such good sports, pricing themselves out of the markets, 0.58

00:06:42.340 shutting down their industries.

00:06:43.420 Let's do the same. 1.00

00:06:44.700 My God, we're run by a group of suckers, aren't we? 0.99

00:06:48.560 Anyway, back to McKenna and her terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week. 0.98

00:06:52.720 She's had a tough COVID lately, as voters in province after province have kicked out governments

00:06:57.960 that supported Trudeau's carbon tax and have voted in governments that vigorously

00:07:02.320 oppose that carbon tax.

00:07:03.900 The latest, of course, being Jason Kenney in Alberta, but Doug Ford before that in a big one.

00:07:08.480 And even the Atlantic provinces, they hate carbon taxes so much that they break out of

00:07:13.600 their eternal liberal rut to vote conservative, which they rarely do.

00:07:18.840 I think you can see the stress of it in McKenna.

00:07:22.200 A couple months ago, when the carbon tax court battle started heating up,

00:07:26.740 the lawsuits by the provinces were piling up, 0.70

00:07:29.120 and Trudeau's own mask slipped, revealing himself to be a user and abuser of women,

00:07:35.160 especially aboriginal women, like Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:07:38.240 And the whole Sunnyways mask slipped.

00:07:41.940 Trudeau himself had a desperate manic, like, this is manic, rally to show the troops.

00:07:49.680 He was still in command.

00:07:50.500 Trudeau himself looked unhinged.

00:07:54.140 Remember this?

00:07:55.620 Great to see you all!

00:07:59.120 How are you all doing today?

00:08:02.920 Are there any liberals in the house?

00:08:07.780 Let's hear it first off for two amazing leaders in our caucus,

00:08:12.400 Julie DeBrucid and Catherine McKenna.

00:08:17.160 Holy cow. 0.89

00:08:18.500 I think that's what cocaine looks like.

00:08:20.800 Is that ever uncomfortable?

00:08:22.280 Well, at that same manic rally, as you know, Catherine McKenna just cracked.

00:08:30.400 Remember this?

00:08:32.380 So let's talk about climate change for a second.

00:08:35.200 Who believes it's real?

00:08:38.080 Who believes in science?

00:08:39.720 We got a report last year that said we have 12 years to take serious climate action.

00:08:48.640 We are all in this together.

00:08:50.820 We need to act.

00:08:51.980 And just remember last year.

00:08:54.000 Who remembers last summer?

00:08:55.400 Who remembers the extreme heat that we felt last summer?

00:09:01.140 Who remembers that people literally died of extreme heat?

00:09:05.600 I've called people, I've called mothers in British Columbia where there were forest fires.

00:09:12.200 Remember those forest fires?

00:09:13.760 And guess what?

00:09:14.780 They were scared for their kids to go outside because the air quality was so bad.

00:09:20.460 She was claiming that naturally occurring fires and fires started by arson were because of the global warming ferry.

00:09:32.640 Yeah, no, but it's her safe place.

00:09:34.740 Just like Trudeau goes to his safe place, his message track, when he's stressed out.

00:09:40.060 Who here is a liberal?

00:09:41.920 I'm at a liberal rally.

00:09:44.660 Are there any?

00:09:45.320 Like that grin.

00:09:46.920 Are there any liberals here at the liberal rally?

00:09:50.460 Yeah, boss, we're actually all liberals here at the liberal rally.

00:09:55.540 He just said, that's not even a grin.

00:09:58.680 That's like, am I smiling naturally?

00:10:02.480 I'm fine.

00:10:04.320 That's what he looked like.

00:10:06.360 Can we play that clip one more time?

00:10:08.420 That was so insane.

00:10:11.720 That, is anyone here a liberal?

00:10:14.740 Great to see you all.

00:10:19.660 How are you all doing today?

00:10:23.460 Are there any liberals in the house?

00:10:28.340 Let's hear it first off for two amazing leaders in our caucus.

00:10:32.300 Julie DeBrucite and Catherine McKenna.

00:10:34.640 You know what?

00:10:38.860 I mean, just get that guy a tranquilizer. 0.97

00:10:40.700 Bring him down. 0.93

00:10:41.240 He's just flying too high.

00:10:44.260 But he goes to a safe place.

00:10:45.660 He just says goofy things when he's under extreme stress.

00:10:49.660 Like, remember those aboriginal protesters from Grassy Narrows? 1.00

00:10:52.020 When they crashed a fancy, like $1,600-a-head cocktail reception he had in Toronto?

00:10:57.720 He just put on that same rictus grin, that fake grin.

00:11:01.260 I'm really smiling, you guys.

00:11:04.220 And he went to his happy place.

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00:11:09.840 That's just, he started saying it.

00:11:11.060 Remember that?

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00:11:56.880 Thank you, sir.

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00:12:11.300 Now, at least Trudeau was not screaming there.

00:12:13.400 He managed to bring himself under control a bit more.

00:12:15.600 But not McKenna.

00:12:17.020 She still shouts in question period. 0.74

00:12:19.980 I think she just went nuts the other day. 0.98

00:12:21.780 Remember this?

00:12:22.240 Speaker, if you're like the party opposite, you're worried about debt.

00:12:26.360 You're worried about cost.

00:12:27.500 You should be worried about the cost that we are passing on to our kids,

00:12:30.200 the cost of climate change.

00:12:31.620 We have got an emergency here,

00:12:33.800 and the party opposite is not telling the truth to Canadians.

00:12:37.440 We are paying.

00:12:38.560 We've gone from $400 billion a year to over $2 billion,

00:12:42.140 to $400 million to $2 billion because of the cost of climate change.

00:12:45.240 Why don't they step up? 0.50

00:12:46.480 Why don't they step up for climate action?

00:12:48.340 Why don't they step up for the economy of the future

00:12:50.120 and stop misleading Canadians?

00:12:52.000 Can I show you something?

00:12:56.260 Can I show you that same clip now?

00:13:00.120 The same answer, but with the sound off?

00:13:01.760 No sound.

00:13:03.040 Just look at the scowl.

00:13:04.560 Look at the rage.

00:13:05.560 Look at the stress.

00:13:07.080 Look at the finger pointing.

00:13:08.560 Look at the haranguing.

00:13:11.540 Without the sound.

00:13:12.440 That's what the world sees.

00:13:14.260 Angry, shrill, nagging, shouting.

00:13:18.180 The opposite of sunny ways.

00:13:19.900 A little bit manic.

00:13:21.100 A little bit desperate.

00:13:22.240 A little bit stressed.

00:13:23.040 The opposite of the word appealing.

00:13:28.840 The liberals are behind in the polls.

00:13:32.160 Her party's going to lose office if this keeps up. 1.00

00:13:35.920 Donald Trump laughs at the whole global warming nonsense.

00:13:39.480 He's drilling and pumping and mining energy, even coal.

00:13:42.420 He loves saying fossil fuels.

00:13:44.520 He's got placards that say Trump digs coal, for heaven's sakes.

00:13:47.920 He mocks the UN.

00:13:48.820 It's great.

00:13:49.780 So no one is hanging out with Catherine McKenna and Trudeau

00:13:52.420 and their global warming delusions,

00:13:54.440 except other exceedingly unpopular globalists,

00:13:57.500 like Emmanuel Macron at France,

00:13:59.380 who is at about 23% of the polls,

00:14:01.380 and he has street riots against the carbon tax,

00:14:03.920 called the yellow vests.

00:14:05.900 Everything's going wrong for Catherine McKenna.

00:14:09.320 Maybe that's when you slow down a bit.

00:14:11.540 You have fewer cycles.

00:14:12.700 You just do less, and you calm down,

00:14:15.540 and you step away from the Twitter machine a bit.

00:14:20.040 But nope.

00:14:22.540 Did you see this?

00:14:23.320 We showed you this the other day.

00:14:25.740 She went to a bar, 0.62

00:14:27.740 and she got drunk,

00:14:29.180 and she started shouting, 0.94

00:14:31.560 and she admitted she just shouts and repeats things

00:14:34.860 because she thinks people will believe her

00:14:37.100 if she shouts and repeats things enough.

00:14:41.460 So here I am at Christian's Pub in St. John's,

00:14:57.220 and you won't believe who I have here.

00:14:59.020 Mark Critch here,

00:15:00.100 and I've got Chef Mookie,

00:15:02.760 and I got screeched in.

00:15:04.340 So it was really amazing.

00:15:05.500 But the funny thing is,

00:15:06.740 so you think, like, it's amazing.

00:15:08.440 You get screeched in,

00:15:09.180 and you hear all these facts about Newfoundland,

00:15:11.020 and what the hell are they doing now?

00:15:12.580 They're fighting about the facts about Newfoundland,

00:15:14.920 and do they really get them right?

00:15:16.820 So what's the discussion now, boys?

00:15:19.200 What we were talking about is St. John's

00:15:21.640 the oldest city in North America,

00:15:23.880 and there's some debate about that.

00:15:25.960 He was saying that it could be Missouri,

00:15:28.100 but we firmly believe it is

00:15:30.100 because there's nobody from Missouri here.

00:15:32.320 But, you know,

00:15:32.880 I actually gave them some real advice.

00:15:35.160 I said that if you actually say it louder,

00:15:37.200 we've learned in the House of Commons,

00:15:38.480 if you repeat it,

00:15:39.440 if you say it louder,

00:15:40.340 if that is your talking point,

00:15:41.820 people will totally believe it.

00:15:45.200 Yeah, that's pretty bad.

00:15:46.920 You're not a 19-year-old sorority girl anymore.

00:15:50.020 I mean, the drunk part alone,

00:15:51.820 don't do that.

00:15:53.860 I mean, you're closing in on 50.

00:15:57.240 Go to a bar, sure, have a drink.

00:15:59.840 I mean, sure, get a little tipsy, whatever,

00:16:01.740 as long as someone's there

00:16:02.580 to make sure you get home okay.

00:16:03.760 But to have a video team with you,

00:16:08.320 to have your videographer there,

00:16:11.200 to film you getting drunk,

00:16:13.540 to edit the video

00:16:14.880 and make it a public broadcast on purpose,

00:16:18.720 and to leave in the obvious drunkenness

00:16:21.440 and that weird confession

00:16:22.720 about how she just yells fake news

00:16:25.060 till people buy it.

00:16:26.640 That is weird.

00:16:28.100 And again,

00:16:30.000 no one in her 24-person communication staff

00:16:32.480 had the courage to say,

00:16:34.440 um, don't.

00:16:36.680 Well, that video was trounced online.

00:16:39.460 Oh, my God.

00:16:41.280 Editorials were written about it

00:16:42.600 in paper newspapers.

00:16:43.900 That's how bad it was.

00:16:45.020 It was proof,

00:16:46.260 that little confession there,

00:16:48.000 that the government's not only unserious

00:16:50.120 and that McKenna is unserious,

00:16:52.500 but that even they don't believe

00:16:54.440 their own lines.

00:16:55.480 They just shout it till other people do.

00:16:57.640 It's showing that there's no there there.

00:17:00.060 They know it's fake,

00:17:01.360 that we all knew it's fake.

00:17:02.600 Anyone who jet sets around the world full time

00:17:04.960 obviously doesn't believe energy use is a problem.

00:17:07.460 They're just saying,

00:17:08.200 they're just saying it's a problem

00:17:09.640 for reasons like taxing people

00:17:11.600 or destroying an entire industry

00:17:13.180 in the conservative part of the country or whatever.

00:17:15.760 So she deleted that video.

00:17:18.940 I noticed that she recorded it with Mark Critch,

00:17:21.580 the top liberal at the CBC government comedy show

00:17:24.240 called 22 Minutes.

00:17:25.080 You could sort of see him cringe

00:17:27.000 when she was all shouty and sweary.

00:17:29.900 He took the energy down,

00:17:31.060 tried to really calm things down,

00:17:32.360 didn't help.

00:17:33.020 Anyways, CBC obviously helped make this problem

00:17:35.940 by going and taking her out to drink.

00:17:38.100 So the CBC sort of helped fix it, I guess,

00:17:41.920 but it was really bad judgment,

00:17:44.500 really weird.

00:17:45.680 So the CBC, they helped fix this meltdown.

00:17:48.560 They ran another interview with McKenna,

00:17:51.000 but in French for some reason,

00:17:54.560 on French CBC,

00:17:56.060 to help her mop up that mess 0.98

00:17:57.620 that she made in English,

00:17:58.980 I don't even get that.

00:18:00.240 Anyways, watch this

00:18:01.260 that appeared on CBC French.

00:18:04.720 La ministre de l'Environnement

00:18:06.100 est une cible de choix ces jours-ci.

00:18:08.100 I recommend pulling one plastic bag 0.96

00:18:11.780 of your head 1.00

00:18:13.400 and tying it around your neck. 0.92

00:18:15.560 Couldn't put a value on that.

00:18:19.260 Mais alors c'est horrible.

00:18:21.100 C'est pas seulement horrible pour moi,

00:18:23.340 parce que moi j'ai des enfants,

00:18:24.720 j'ai trois enfants.

00:18:26.080 Si ils voyaient ça...

00:18:27.100 Les militants de la droite

00:18:30.900 l'avaient déjà surnommée

00:18:32.200 la Barbie du climat.

00:18:36.540 Les attaques se sont intensifiées

00:18:38.540 en plein débat

00:18:39.440 sur la tarification du carbone.

00:18:41.560 Il y a des gens qui détestent

00:18:42.580 vraiment l'action

00:18:43.640 sur les changements climatiques,

00:18:45.500 mais aussi ils détestent les femmes. 1.00

00:18:46.960 Alors ça vient,

00:18:47.880 c'est vraiment étrange,

00:18:49.340 mais il y a une connexion.

00:18:50.800 So in case you didn't understand that,

00:18:53.720 Manic McKenna

00:18:54.940 was replaced by

00:18:56.040 almost crying,

00:18:59.100 depressed McKenna.

00:19:00.900 Because she found a tweet

00:19:02.380 somewhere on the internet

00:19:03.300 that was mean to her.

00:19:04.480 I mean, there must be

00:19:05.260 millions of tweets and comments

00:19:07.100 about every Canadian politician.

00:19:09.020 The key is to,

00:19:10.220 you know,

00:19:10.740 be a grown-up and ignore them.

00:19:12.080 Or if you really want to,

00:19:12.940 rebut them.

00:19:13.520 Or, you know,

00:19:14.140 how about just do some real work

00:19:15.460 instead of being on Twitter?

00:19:16.860 But she went on the CBC

00:19:18.780 to tearfully say

00:19:20.160 it's hate

00:19:21.540 and it's a threat to her.

00:19:23.500 She loves being a tough woman

00:19:25.320 who can compete with the guys.

00:19:27.080 But when it actually gets tough,

00:19:30.260 she plays the

00:19:31.040 I'm a little girl card.

00:19:32.280 Stop being mean to me.

00:19:34.220 I mean,

00:19:34.560 you wouldn't be mean to a girl,

00:19:36.720 would you?

00:19:37.260 You're just a girl. 0.81

00:19:41.260 Margaret Thatcher

00:19:42.000 and Dira Gandhi

00:19:42.780 Golda Meir,

00:19:45.740 they would never do

00:19:47.060 Benazir,

00:19:47.920 Buto,

00:19:49.480 Corazon,

00:19:50.160 Aquino,

00:19:50.680 think of the great women leaders

00:19:52.320 in really tough places.

00:19:55.340 They would never do that.

00:19:57.860 But McKenna does. 1.00

00:20:00.520 That fake crime.

00:20:02.220 And saying that her own

00:20:02.980 Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:20:03.600 you recognize Sheila there,

00:20:04.700 must be

00:20:05.340 sexist. 0.58

00:20:07.100 Yeah, 0.68

00:20:07.400 because Sheila came up 0.51

00:20:08.740 with the nickname

00:20:09.220 Climate Barbie. 0.96

00:20:10.600 So pitiful and lame. 0.95

00:20:12.360 So that's

00:20:12.880 been the really,

00:20:14.360 really bad week

00:20:14.760 for Catherine McKenna.

00:20:15.500 But the week,

00:20:16.140 well,

00:20:16.360 it's not quite over,

00:20:17.120 is it?

00:20:17.340 It's still Friday,

00:20:18.620 still Friday night,

00:20:19.740 right?

00:20:20.020 So technically,

00:20:20.820 the week's not over yet.

00:20:22.500 So how,

00:20:23.200 how would the master

00:20:25.100 communicator,

00:20:26.500 Catherine McKenna,

00:20:27.100 how would the master

00:20:27.760 strategist

00:20:28.540 top all that?

00:20:30.080 How do you top

00:20:31.600 a drunk sorority video 1.00

00:20:34.520 in a pub?

00:20:35.080 How do you top

00:20:35.780 that rant about

00:20:37.180 shouting fake news

00:20:38.220 until people believe it?

00:20:39.000 How do you top

00:20:39.540 the stop being mean to me

00:20:41.540 because I'm just a girl

00:20:42.640 video?

00:20:43.440 How do you top that?

00:20:46.800 Well,

00:20:47.180 you got to bring in

00:20:47.600 the big guns.

00:20:48.160 You need maybe even

00:20:48.860 some help from a foreign

00:20:49.640 country.

00:20:50.040 How about the Philippines?

00:20:51.300 Some background.

00:20:52.180 Canada's recycling

00:20:53.020 is mainly fake.

00:20:53.860 Of course,

00:20:54.220 most recycling

00:20:55.160 is just dumped

00:20:56.260 in the landfill

00:20:56.940 or burned.

00:20:57.620 It's just busy work

00:20:58.880 for virtue signalers

00:21:00.800 and to keep

00:21:01.500 government workers busy.

00:21:03.580 Only metal

00:21:04.580 makes sense

00:21:05.440 to recycle

00:21:06.020 from a net energy use

00:21:07.340 or a net resources

00:21:08.520 point of view.

00:21:09.140 It's more harmful

00:21:09.900 to the environment

00:21:10.780 from a resources

00:21:12.000 or energy point of view

00:21:12.840 to try to recycle

00:21:13.500 plastic or paper

00:21:14.880 than it is just

00:21:15.380 to throw it out.

00:21:16.080 As in,

00:21:16.440 it takes more resources,

00:21:17.920 it takes more energy

00:21:18.600 to recycle those things

00:21:20.280 than just to make new ones.

00:21:21.520 So it's actually bad

00:21:22.480 for the environment

00:21:23.080 if you care about

00:21:23.760 those sorts of things.

00:21:24.540 That's why Canada

00:21:25.200 doesn't actually recycle,

00:21:27.000 for example,

00:21:27.500 our plastic.

00:21:28.320 We just ship it

00:21:29.360 to China,

00:21:30.460 which pretends

00:21:31.620 to recycle it,

00:21:32.380 but they just bury it

00:21:33.540 or dump it in the sea.

00:21:35.660 I mean,

00:21:35.900 do you really think

00:21:36.760 that when you sort

00:21:37.460 your garbage

00:21:38.020 into three, 1.00

00:21:38.920 four,

00:21:39.300 five bins,

00:21:40.200 I swear I've seen

00:21:41.040 five bin garbage cans.

00:21:43.380 Do you really think

00:21:44.300 that they're not just

00:21:45.760 all mixed together

00:21:46.500 and buried?

00:21:48.120 I mean,

00:21:48.380 seriously,

00:21:49.000 do you really think that?

00:21:51.100 Anyways,

00:21:51.580 for some reason,

00:21:52.480 dozens of huge

00:21:54.140 cargo containers

00:21:55.860 containers of Canadian 1.00

00:21:56.860 garbage 1.00

00:21:57.600 of the grossest 0.99

00:21:59.600 variety,

00:22:01.180 I don't want to

00:22:01.800 gross you out,

00:22:02.400 but including like

00:22:03.160 used adult diapers,

00:22:06.480 sorry to say it,

00:22:07.640 for some reason,

00:22:09.760 in the name of recycling,

00:22:13.120 that was shipped

00:22:13.820 to the Philippines.

00:22:14.960 Why?

00:22:15.200 Do we hate them

00:22:15.780 or something?

00:22:16.240 They're great people.

00:22:16.880 Why are we being mean

00:22:17.500 to them?

00:22:19.440 And something went wrong.

00:22:20.420 I won't get into it,

00:22:21.440 it's not even important,

00:22:22.240 but they didn't want 0.95

00:22:23.240 our trash.

00:22:24.340 They just didn't want 1.00

00:22:25.240 our super gross trash. 0.98

00:22:27.120 And it became a really, 0.99

00:22:28.760 really,

00:22:29.240 I mean,

00:22:29.500 imagine the fermentation.

00:22:31.060 You imagine,

00:22:31.520 whoo,

00:22:31.920 whoa,

00:22:32.600 Petri dish.

00:22:33.440 But there's 69

00:22:34.460 of those huge containers.

00:22:36.800 This became a toxic

00:22:38.660 international diplomatic

00:22:41.440 incident.

00:22:42.020 Here,

00:22:42.460 watch the president

00:22:43.660 of the Philippines,

00:22:44.660 Rodrigo Duterte,

00:22:46.580 express his frustration

00:22:48.080 at great length.

00:22:51.680 Yung basura ng,

00:22:53.040 yung basura ng Canada.

00:22:56.340 I want a boat prepared.

00:23:00.360 I'll give a warning

00:23:02.460 to Canada,

00:23:03.340 maybe next week,

00:23:05.520 that they better

00:23:06.400 pull that thing out

00:23:08.180 or I will set sail

00:23:10.780 doon sa Canada.

00:23:12.420 I buhos ko yung basura nila doon.

00:23:14.540 Pagalawang po,

00:23:18.220 Mr. President,

00:23:19.440 ay ang field help.

00:23:21.800 Why not in Canada?

00:23:23.660 We'll declare war against them.

00:23:25.160 Kaya man natin nila sila.

00:23:27.760 Iisa uli ko talaga.

00:23:29.680 Tingnan mo.

00:23:31.420 Ikarga mo yan doon 0.85

00:23:32.640 sa barco,

00:23:35.020 load it,

00:23:35.860 the containers

00:23:36.640 to a ship

00:23:37.560 and advise Canada.

00:23:39.620 I will advise Canada 1.00

00:23:41.000 that your garbage 1.00

00:23:42.760 is on the way. 1.00

00:23:46.640 Prepare a grand reception.

00:23:49.260 Eat it

00:23:50.080 if you want to.

00:23:51.760 65 years,

00:23:53.500 18 earthquakes,

00:23:56.280 so...

00:23:56.800 Na ba payag. 0.58

00:23:59.800 Kaya

00:24:00.120 ikarga natin

00:24:01.960 ulian pabalik.

00:24:02.960 Sika nila.

00:24:04.900 Minko, prepare your...

00:24:07.000 and celebrate 1.00

00:24:09.900 because your garbage 1.00

00:24:12.020 is coming home. 1.00

00:24:16.620 Now the headlines were funny.

00:24:18.760 Duterte,

00:24:19.220 you heard the word.

00:24:20.280 He said, 0.99

00:24:21.520 he's declaring a garbage war. 0.99

00:24:23.180 He used the word war. 1.00

00:24:25.080 He's declaring a garbage war 0.99

00:24:26.280 in Canada. 0.99

00:24:26.720 Now the guy next to him

00:24:27.440 was sort of smiling

00:24:28.380 because he's sort of

00:24:29.180 Trump-like that way.

00:24:30.120 But look,

00:24:30.820 from his point of view, 0.99

00:24:32.960 we started the garbage war. 0.55

00:24:34.840 We shipped 0.90

00:24:35.580 our garbage to them.

00:24:37.680 Who does that? 0.99

00:24:38.460 Well, we do

00:24:40.080 because we like to pretend

00:24:40.920 that we're super-duper

00:24:42.060 clean and environmental

00:24:42.820 when really we're just 0.97

00:24:43.720 outsourcing our worst garbage 1.00

00:24:45.280 to the poorest countries 1.00

00:24:46.580 of the world.

00:24:47.060 But out of sight,

00:24:47.820 out of mind, right?

00:24:48.940 That Duterte,

00:24:49.800 he's a little bit grumpy 0.57

00:24:50.500 and a little bit Trumpy.

00:24:52.320 And there was some banter there,

00:24:53.580 but I think he meant it.

00:24:55.140 He really wanted that 0.99

00:24:56.140 stinking, rotting 1.00

00:24:57.780 garbage out of his country. 1.00

00:24:59.960 And he wanted Trudeau 1.00

00:25:00.600 to take it back.

00:25:01.200 And he was frustrated

00:25:01.760 he wasn't coming back.

00:25:02.640 And yes,

00:25:03.100 it's hard to believe.

00:25:04.540 I know you can't even believe it,

00:25:05.980 but Freeland's Angels,

00:25:07.400 Chrystia's Angel,

00:25:08.400 bungled that one too.

00:25:10.000 What's the list now?

00:25:11.380 What are the countries

00:25:12.220 that don't even talk to us anymore?

00:25:14.020 China, India,

00:25:15.700 Saudi Arabia,

00:25:16.680 Philippines, Australia.

00:25:17.980 I mean,

00:25:18.280 has he not screwed anything up?

00:25:20.820 How can the Philippines 0.99

00:25:21.940 declare garbage war on you? 0.99

00:25:24.360 That takes some skill. 0.98

00:25:25.240 So finally today, 0.99

00:25:29.560 the garbage,

00:25:31.180 69 huge containers of it,

00:25:34.700 was loaded on a ship

00:25:36.920 to be sent back to Canada.

00:25:40.220 I mean,

00:25:40.500 talk about environmentalism. 0.99

00:25:41.860 Ship your garbage 0.99

00:25:42.740 to a depot by truck,

00:25:44.400 then ship it to Vancouver

00:25:45.660 by train,

00:25:46.620 then put it on a freighter

00:25:48.260 and sail it to the Philippines,

00:25:50.280 store it for a few months

00:25:51.680 just so it,

00:25:52.500 just ripe.

00:25:53.400 And now do the whole thing again

00:25:55.680 in reverse.

00:25:56.580 Put it back on a ship,

00:25:58.200 sail to Vancouver.

00:26:00.320 I mean, 0.99

00:26:00.540 that is some well-traveled garbage. 0.99

00:26:04.200 That's your modern 0.99

00:26:05.160 environmental movement

00:26:05.920 right there.

00:26:07.880 So the Philippines,

00:26:08.940 you could say 0.99

00:26:09.220 they won that garbage war, 1.00

00:26:10.600 didn't they? 0.99

00:26:11.680 Now their foreign minister,

00:26:13.480 Teddy Lockson Jr.,

00:26:14.940 and you got it,

00:26:15.740 look at his Twitter account,

00:26:17.000 Teddy Boy Lockson.

00:26:18.000 I like the guy already,

00:26:18.900 just from his name.

00:26:19.980 He was laughing

00:26:21.100 and mocking us all day.

00:26:24.420 Tweeting,

00:26:25.140 look at that,

00:26:25.920 bye-bye,

00:26:26.780 as we say it.

00:26:27.980 He just,

00:26:28.940 I mean,

00:26:29.780 he's a little bit better

00:26:30.540 at Twitter

00:26:31.240 than Catherine McKenna,

00:26:32.660 and he doesn't do

00:26:33.360 drunk sorority girl. 1.00

00:26:35.140 I love you, man.

00:26:36.100 I really love you guys.

00:26:37.600 He doesn't do that on Twitter.

00:26:38.600 He doesn't get drunk on Twitter.

00:26:39.920 And you saw Duterte.

00:26:40.900 He was saying

00:26:41.460 that we Canadians 0.98

00:26:43.100 can eat the garbage 0.95

00:26:46.880 for all he cares. 0.88

00:26:49.040 We can welcome it

00:26:50.180 in a celebration,

00:26:51.320 he says.

00:26:52.580 He has disdain for us,

00:26:54.180 not for you and me,

00:26:55.640 but for Trudeau

00:26:56.640 and Christia Freeland

00:26:57.440 and Christia's angels.

00:27:00.000 So he said,

00:27:01.480 prepare your celebration, 1.00

00:27:02.420 your garbage coming back. 1.00

00:27:03.360 What idiot would want 1.00

00:27:04.500 that garbage, right? 1.00

00:27:05.440 I mean, 1.00

00:27:05.720 what idiot would celebrate 1.00

00:27:07.920 the arrival of the garbage 1.00

00:27:09.380 like Duterte said? 1.00

00:27:10.400 Well,

00:27:12.780 I think I know 1.00

00:27:14.000 just the kind of idiot 1.00

00:27:15.800 who would. 1.00

00:27:18.520 Look at this tweet.

00:27:20.500 This is real.

00:27:21.280 This is real, people.

00:27:23.220 Anchors away! 0.98

00:27:24.820 Hey, guys.

00:27:27.540 The containers of garbage

00:27:28.980 have departed the Philippines

00:27:31.300 and will arrive in Canada

00:27:33.680 in four weeks

00:27:34.560 where the waste

00:27:36.100 will be turned into energy

00:27:37.420 that will power homes

00:27:38.780 in British Columbia.

00:27:40.400 Oh, my God!

00:27:42.920 She's excited?

00:27:47.420 She's happy?

00:27:50.300 She's boasting? 0.96

00:27:53.640 So burning adult diapers

00:27:56.120 is going to power

00:27:57.840 our homes in Canada, will it? 0.99

00:27:59.720 We're going to turn garbage 0.95

00:28:02.580 into energy.

00:28:05.320 Is that really

00:28:06.100 what's going to happen?

00:28:06.920 This weirdo,

00:28:09.120 by the way,

00:28:09.660 is banning ships

00:28:11.160 that would export ethical oil

00:28:12.480 from Canada to Asia,

00:28:13.760 but she is giddy

00:28:15.300 about welcoming ships 0.99

00:28:16.700 bringing toxic garbage 1.00

00:28:17.920 back to Canada. 1.00

00:28:18.880 She's excited.

00:28:20.160 She is what Duterte

00:28:21.320 mocked us for being.

00:28:22.940 He meant it as an insult.

00:28:24.800 She is that person.

00:28:28.380 It reminds me of when

00:28:30.200 Christy Freeland

00:28:30.740 thought that China

00:28:32.340 mocking Justin Trudeau

00:28:34.000 was like a sign of

00:28:35.780 of praise.

00:28:37.960 Remember that?

00:28:39.480 We're quite proud

00:28:40.720 the Prime Minister

00:28:41.540 has been given

00:28:42.500 a fond nickname

00:28:44.060 in China.

00:28:45.480 He is called

00:28:46.360 Pudou,

00:28:47.760 which I believe

00:28:48.920 means potato.

00:28:50.340 And he is,

00:28:50.780 I can't say the Chinese word

00:28:51.880 little potato

00:28:54.700 because his father,

00:28:56.460 Pierre Elliott,

00:28:57.540 was senior potato.

00:29:00.420 So we feel

00:29:01.240 we are off

00:29:02.400 to a great start.

00:29:07.040 We feel we're off

00:29:08.440 to a great start.

00:29:10.600 No, no, sister,

00:29:11.900 that wasn't a compliment.

00:29:13.080 I think someone

00:29:16.220 had better just

00:29:16.900 send a memo

00:29:17.460 to Catherine McKinnon

00:29:18.200 that when Duterte

00:29:19.840 said you can eat

00:29:20.820 the garbage,

00:29:21.540 he didn't really 0.99

00:29:23.220 mean it.

00:29:27.620 Catherine McKinnon

00:29:28.460 is the most

00:29:28.900 gap-prone cabinet

00:29:29.640 minister in Ottawa

00:29:30.380 and my favorite

00:29:33.120 part of it is

00:29:34.140 she just won't stop. 0.95

00:29:39.200 Stay with us

00:29:40.080 for more

00:29:40.520 on This Lovely Lady.

00:29:43.080 What is it

00:29:56.280 that Canadians

00:29:57.020 or these premiers

00:29:57.980 are not hearing here?

00:30:00.280 Because it seems

00:30:01.840 to me that,

00:30:02.700 you know,

00:30:03.080 it's not that difficult

00:30:04.360 to all be on the same page

00:30:05.980 about climate.

00:30:07.160 Is it just your methods?

00:30:09.460 Is it your strategy?

00:30:11.040 Is it the way

00:30:11.600 you communicate it?

00:30:12.660 What do you figure

00:30:13.500 it is?

00:30:14.440 I think it's

00:30:15.120 conservative politicians

00:30:16.140 don't understand

00:30:16.940 the science

00:30:17.580 behind climate change

00:30:18.700 which shows

00:30:19.220 that we need

00:30:19.720 to do more.

00:30:21.400 Nor do they understand

00:30:22.420 the huge economic

00:30:23.240 opportunity.

00:30:24.260 If you take the case

00:30:25.080 of Alberta,

00:30:26.060 I mean,

00:30:26.400 it's interesting

00:30:27.080 because you have here

00:30:28.160 Jason Kenney

00:30:29.060 saying free to pollute,

00:30:30.320 but at the same time,

00:30:31.440 the same energy companies

00:30:32.560 that he says

00:30:33.260 he wants to defend

00:30:34.280 are saying put a price

00:30:35.200 on pollution

00:30:35.720 because they recognize

00:30:37.120 in Alberta

00:30:37.660 they need to have

00:30:38.760 a serious climate plan

00:30:39.920 if they're going to get

00:30:40.580 the resources to market.

00:30:42.780 And the economy of the future

00:30:44.040 doesn't look like

00:30:44.820 the economy of the past,

00:30:45.900 but you've got

00:30:46.460 Jason Kenney,

00:30:48.320 you've got Doug Ford,

00:30:49.320 and you've got Andrew Scheer

00:30:50.560 who want to take us back

00:30:52.020 to the time of Stephen Harper.

00:30:53.680 They don't seem to think

00:30:54.520 climate change

00:30:55.300 is a serious threat.

00:30:56.860 And meanwhile,

00:30:57.520 we have forest fires

00:30:58.300 already in Alberta

00:30:59.240 that are, you know,

00:31:00.860 a major concern

00:31:01.940 to people's livelihood,

00:31:03.440 to their lives.

00:31:04.240 Well, that's Catherine McKenna

00:31:06.720 with a tapestry

00:31:09.700 of all of her talking points

00:31:11.960 together in one mishmash

00:31:13.300 like that.

00:31:13.680 That's quite something.

00:31:14.960 But to me,

00:31:15.740 the favorite point was,

00:31:17.260 hey, CTV,

00:31:18.580 there's forest fires already

00:31:20.100 and Jason Kenney

00:31:21.040 hasn't even repealed

00:31:22.300 the carbon tax yet.

00:31:23.340 It's going to happen

00:31:23.900 in a few hours.

00:31:24.840 The forest fairies are mad.

00:31:26.840 They're lashing out.

00:31:28.660 And to say that

00:31:30.340 she is the party of science,

00:31:32.880 oh my God.

00:31:35.400 Catherine McKenna

00:31:36.020 is the gift

00:31:36.460 that keeps on giving.

00:31:37.340 Joining us now

00:31:37.760 from Edmonton to talk about it

00:31:38.800 is our friend Lauren Gunters,

00:31:40.460 senior columnist

00:31:41.440 with the Edmonton Sun.

00:31:42.780 Now, I don't know,

00:31:43.440 maybe I misheard

00:31:44.400 or misinterpreted

00:31:46.020 what she was saying,

00:31:47.160 but I felt like

00:31:48.300 she was blaming

00:31:49.180 the annual wildfires

00:31:51.460 of Alberta,

00:31:52.020 which have been going on

00:31:52.860 since time immemorial.

00:31:54.280 I felt like she was

00:31:55.020 blaming them

00:31:55.780 and especially their timing

00:31:57.800 on the fact that

00:31:59.040 Jason Kenney was elected

00:32:00.040 like this is some,

00:32:00.840 you know,

00:32:02.360 Tolkien forest

00:32:03.680 where the forests

00:32:04.700 are,

00:32:05.360 where the trees are saying

00:32:06.260 we must rise up against,

00:32:08.400 you know,

00:32:09.100 it felt so pagan

00:32:11.000 and yet she's the one

00:32:12.660 invoking science.

00:32:13.880 Well, I mean,

00:32:14.520 I won't say you're wrong

00:32:15.360 about that.

00:32:16.180 I think probably

00:32:18.060 what she's doing 0.81

00:32:18.640 is simply regurgitating

00:32:19.740 the point that

00:32:22.580 politicized climate scientists

00:32:25.660 make that the forest fire season

00:32:29.000 is getting earlier

00:32:30.220 and earlier every year

00:32:31.420 because of climate change.

00:32:32.920 It doesn't matter.

00:32:33.940 Both of them are,

00:32:35.080 are unscientific,

00:32:36.920 whether she's,

00:32:37.700 she thinks that,

00:32:38.380 that mother forest

00:32:39.920 is angry with us

00:32:40.960 because we've gotten rid

00:32:41.940 of the carbon tax

00:32:43.440 or,

00:32:43.880 or,

00:32:44.520 you know,

00:32:45.020 that this is

00:32:45.860 incontrovertible proof

00:32:47.280 yet again

00:32:48.040 of climate change.

00:32:49.740 There's two or three things

00:32:51.000 she said in there 0.92

00:32:51.480 that,

00:32:51.720 that just make my eyes roll.

00:32:53.560 One is,

00:32:54.100 well,

00:32:54.220 I don't think conservative

00:32:55.060 politicians understand the science.

00:32:56.880 I think they understand it

00:32:57.820 better than she does

00:32:58.460 because she,

00:32:59.660 it's easy to regurgitate

00:33:00.840 the,

00:33:01.420 the,

00:33:01.620 the mainstream scientific idea

00:33:03.820 that climate change

00:33:05.140 is already upon us.

00:33:06.340 It's man-made.

00:33:07.740 It's,

00:33:08.220 it's irreversible.

00:33:09.540 It's going to be horrible

00:33:10.460 and damaging.

00:33:11.120 It's another thing

00:33:12.020 to try and understand,

00:33:13.020 to,

00:33:13.140 to,

00:33:13.400 to take out

00:33:14.000 the natural shift

00:33:15.500 in client,

00:33:16.480 in climate

00:33:17.060 from,

00:33:17.900 from what might be

00:33:19.380 or might not be man-made

00:33:20.980 and how serious is it

00:33:22.420 and what are the things

00:33:23.460 we need.

00:33:23.780 That's,

00:33:24.240 that's much better.

00:33:24.840 And I think more conservative politicians

00:33:26.460 understand that

00:33:27.320 because it's not easy

00:33:29.420 to go to a cocktail party

00:33:31.320 and stand there,

00:33:32.460 you know,

00:33:33.040 swirling your,

00:33:33.740 your Prosecco

00:33:34.480 and say,

00:33:35.960 well,

00:33:36.140 I don't really believe

00:33:37.240 that the climate is,

00:33:39.220 you know,

00:33:39.340 that,

00:33:39.660 so you have to be able

00:33:40.480 to defend that.

00:33:41.320 I think they understand that better.

00:33:42.660 The other thing that,

00:33:43.580 that,

00:33:43.900 you know,

00:33:44.120 that she said is,

00:33:45.240 well,

00:33:46.180 Jason Kenney has to understand

00:33:47.740 that he needs a climate plan

00:33:50.500 if he's going to get

00:33:51.600 his goods to market.

00:33:52.820 Yeah,

00:33:53.040 what have we been doing

00:33:53.660 the last four years

00:33:54.620 under Rachel Notley

00:33:55.700 and,

00:33:55.920 and Justin Trudeau

00:33:57.000 and how is that working out?

00:33:58.260 Like,

00:33:58.660 you know,

00:33:59.000 we got the,

00:33:59.420 we got the carbon tax,

00:34:00.920 we got the coal shutdown.

00:34:02.480 We have all sorts

00:34:03.620 of new regulations

00:34:04.680 on the environment

00:34:05.660 in Alberta

00:34:06.200 and every time

00:34:07.860 we conceded,

00:34:08.800 every time we caved in

00:34:09.860 something

00:34:10.260 to the environmentalists,

00:34:12.140 they just upped the stakes.

00:34:13.600 They moved the goalposts.

00:34:14.760 They changed what they was,

00:34:16.660 they claimed

00:34:17.380 would satisfy them.

00:34:18.760 So,

00:34:19.140 this is just

00:34:20.160 horse hockey.

00:34:21.740 if you,

00:34:22.620 if you want.

00:34:23.660 That,

00:34:24.020 that we,

00:34:24.760 we just continue

00:34:26.020 following the same 0.91

00:34:27.280 useless path 0.52

00:34:28.360 we've followed

00:34:28.920 for four years

00:34:29.740 and somehow

00:34:30.460 it's all going to work out.

00:34:31.760 Yeah.

00:34:32.060 Can I,

00:34:32.760 you just made me think

00:34:33.800 of something

00:34:34.160 because I,

00:34:35.280 I just went through

00:34:37.160 what I,

00:34:37.760 a bit of a rehearsing

00:34:39.500 or reminding our viewers

00:34:40.900 of how Catherine McKenna

00:34:42.340 has gotten more

00:34:43.000 and more shouty

00:34:43.940 and strident

00:34:45.020 really in the last

00:34:46.160 three months.

00:34:46.680 I think she's just

00:34:48.160 going back to those

00:34:48.800 same talking points

00:34:49.600 and as she,

00:34:50.800 I don't know

00:34:51.420 if it was jokingly

00:34:52.380 or drunkenly said

00:34:53.420 in the bar

00:34:53.880 in St. John's,

00:34:54.820 just keep saying it

00:34:56.100 louder and louder

00:34:56.860 and they'll finally

00:34:57.860 believe you.

00:34:58.480 I thought that was a,

00:34:59.800 you know,

00:35:00.440 a revealed truth

00:35:02.940 that she wasn't

00:35:04.280 supposed to say.

00:35:06.320 Let me,

00:35:06.960 let me tell you

00:35:07.540 something that I remember

00:35:08.440 because it was so stark

00:35:09.660 to me.

00:35:10.360 And Lauren,

00:35:10.840 you tell me

00:35:11.200 if you remember this too.

00:35:12.060 when Patrick Brown

00:35:14.240 was defenestrated

00:35:16.460 from the Ontario

00:35:17.760 PC party

00:35:18.980 and Doug Ford

00:35:21.200 ran with a very 0.80

00:35:22.920 heavy duty

00:35:23.540 anti-carbon tax

00:35:24.880 campaign platform

00:35:26.480 and the other

00:35:27.600 candidates sort of

00:35:28.460 felt obliged

00:35:29.060 to match him

00:35:29.940 on that.

00:35:31.220 And so all of a sudden

00:35:32.360 the unanimity

00:35:33.760 on the issue

00:35:35.100 was gone.

00:35:36.980 I,

00:35:37.580 I was shocked

00:35:38.520 and not sure,

00:35:39.600 I was surprised

00:35:40.220 and fascinated

00:35:41.140 by how upset

00:35:43.060 Gerald Butts,

00:35:45.400 Justin Trudeau's

00:35:46.260 former right-hand

00:35:47.080 man was

00:35:47.680 at that.

00:35:48.860 He was very upset

00:35:50.280 that the Ontario

00:35:51.740 PCs were no longer

00:35:53.200 a party of the

00:35:54.520 carbon tax

00:35:55.160 and I thought to

00:35:56.360 myself,

00:35:56.740 well hang on,

00:35:57.720 if you really think

00:35:58.740 that you're right

00:36:00.440 and they are now

00:36:01.220 wrong,

00:36:01.680 you should delight

00:36:02.440 in this.

00:36:02.860 If you really think

00:36:03.640 that the carbon tax

00:36:04.840 is popular,

00:36:06.080 you should delight

00:36:06.940 in this.

00:36:07.420 He was protesting

00:36:08.680 and here's why

00:36:10.740 and let me put

00:36:11.200 this theory to you

00:36:11.940 and I'd like

00:36:12.340 your response

00:36:12.820 to it.

00:36:13.840 When every

00:36:14.920 single fancy

00:36:15.900 person says,

00:36:16.920 oh yes,

00:36:17.380 of course the

00:36:18.100 carbon tax

00:36:18.800 and there's no

00:36:20.280 reasonable

00:36:21.660 alternative politician

00:36:22.980 or journalistic

00:36:24.040 outpost saying,

00:36:24.980 no, no,

00:36:25.120 the carbon tax

00:36:25.620 is terrible,

00:36:26.620 people who

00:36:27.240 in their bones

00:36:28.040 know it's wrong

00:36:28.820 feel, well,

00:36:29.840 I guess I have

00:36:30.440 to resign myself

00:36:31.160 that it's going

00:36:31.560 to happen because

00:36:32.240 I guess I'm

00:36:33.020 the only one

00:36:33.400 who thinks this

00:36:33.960 way.

00:36:34.140 But in the last

00:36:35.280 6-12 months,

00:36:36.920 province after

00:36:37.640 province has

00:36:38.560 come out against it.

00:36:39.640 Jason Kenney

00:36:40.860 is now repealing

00:36:41.700 it.

00:36:42.340 Australia's

00:36:42.860 federal election

00:36:43.660 turned in part

00:36:45.160 over the carbon

00:36:45.920 tax.

00:36:46.280 The anti-carbon

00:36:46.960 tax guys won.

00:36:48.360 And that's what

00:36:49.340 Gerald Butts

00:36:49.820 was afraid of,

00:36:50.740 is that these 0.99

00:36:51.700 ridiculous, 1.00

00:36:52.560 childish, 1.00

00:36:53.200 shallow talking

00:36:53.900 points by

00:36:54.340 Catherine McKenna,

00:36:55.580 they're enough

00:36:56.240 when there's no

00:36:57.180 dissent.

00:36:57.920 But when people

00:36:58.480 say, yeah,

00:36:59.040 I don't believe

00:36:59.840 that BS either,

00:37:01.580 she just has to

00:37:02.580 shout louder.

00:37:03.160 It doesn't work.

00:37:03.620 That's why it's

00:37:05.600 so important to

00:37:06.720 the other side

00:37:07.420 on climate

00:37:07.900 change that

00:37:08.840 the science

00:37:09.700 is settled.

00:37:10.960 Oh, because

00:37:11.840 no one,

00:37:12.840 no one

00:37:13.280 intelligent would

00:37:14.280 ever possibly

00:37:15.340 disagree.

00:37:15.860 There's no

00:37:16.400 settled science.

00:37:17.520 Science is

00:37:18.160 never settled.

00:37:19.740 And it's

00:37:20.860 certainly not

00:37:21.320 on this issue.

00:37:21.940 I mean,

00:37:22.080 the number

00:37:22.700 one climate

00:37:23.980 change site

00:37:25.640 on the internet

00:37:26.780 in the entire

00:37:27.540 world is called

00:37:28.420 Watts,

00:37:28.980 W-A-T-T-S, 1.00

00:37:31.160 Watts up with

00:37:32.020 that.

00:37:32.300 It's run by

00:37:33.240 a guy named

00:37:33.740 Andrew Watts

00:37:34.560 and it has

00:37:36.000 attracted all

00:37:38.540 sorts of

00:37:39.900 terrific

00:37:41.120 scientists

00:37:41.980 who don't

00:37:43.040 agree and

00:37:44.300 who discuss

00:37:45.140 all the new

00:37:46.020 climate news

00:37:47.220 that comes out.

00:37:47.920 It's well worth

00:37:48.660 finding it on

00:37:50.320 the internet.

00:37:51.820 And it will

00:37:52.580 instantly,

00:37:53.460 you spend an

00:37:54.160 hour on that

00:37:54.820 site and you'll

00:37:56.240 understand that

00:37:57.180 there isn't

00:37:57.660 settled science

00:37:58.340 on this,

00:37:58.900 that the people

00:37:59.300 who say there's

00:37:59.900 settled science

00:38:00.440 have a political

00:38:01.660 objective,

00:38:02.740 not a scientific

00:38:03.600 objective,

00:38:04.180 but a political

00:38:04.920 objective.

00:38:05.660 And that's

00:38:06.040 exactly what

00:38:06.600 you're talking

00:38:07.040 about.

00:38:07.500 You know,

00:38:07.680 if we can

00:38:08.600 convince the

00:38:09.360 public that

00:38:10.460 the science

00:38:11.000 is settled,

00:38:12.160 our political

00:38:13.080 side wins

00:38:14.120 if you are

00:38:15.100 a climate

00:38:16.100 change alarmist.

00:38:17.380 And so that's

00:38:18.040 why they say

00:38:18.820 over and over

00:38:20.080 and over again

00:38:21.020 that the science

00:38:21.720 is settled

00:38:22.220 and it's not

00:38:22.920 settled.

00:38:23.400 And so it

00:38:24.060 is important

00:38:24.860 that premiers

00:38:26.380 stand up

00:38:27.220 who disagree

00:38:28.340 with the

00:38:28.740 carbon tax

00:38:30.140 and say

00:38:31.280 they disagree

00:38:31.900 with it,

00:38:32.320 even if they

00:38:33.040 do believe

00:38:33.800 largely that

00:38:34.560 climate change

00:38:35.740 is man-made

00:38:36.500 and it's

00:38:36.840 coming and

00:38:37.280 it's dangerous,

00:38:38.540 they may think

00:38:39.180 that the carbon

00:38:39.760 tax is not

00:38:40.300 the way to

00:38:40.700 deal with it.

00:38:41.380 So it's very

00:38:42.000 important that

00:38:42.600 they say that.

00:38:43.340 I actually

00:38:44.400 take great

00:38:45.180 comfort from

00:38:45.940 the fact that

00:38:46.640 in poll after

00:38:47.760 poll after

00:38:48.440 poll,

00:38:49.560 slightly under

00:38:50.560 half of

00:38:51.500 North Americans

00:38:52.480 are convinced

00:38:53.860 that climate

00:38:54.300 change isn't

00:38:55.060 really a serious

00:38:55.980 problem.

00:38:56.920 And after

00:38:58.020 25 years

00:38:59.140 of continuous

00:39:00.380 propaganda

00:39:01.080 being bashed

00:39:02.140 over the head

00:39:02.720 with this,

00:39:03.720 it still doesn't

00:39:05.600 jive with what

00:39:06.280 they feel

00:39:07.540 in their bones

00:39:08.340 or what they

00:39:08.780 understand from

00:39:09.600 their own

00:39:10.680 personal experience.

00:39:12.060 And so I do

00:39:13.080 think that you're

00:39:13.920 quite right.

00:39:14.400 People like Butts 1.00

00:39:15.180 want very much

00:39:16.420 to keep this

00:39:17.000 tight lid on

00:39:17.860 because they

00:39:18.520 understand that

00:39:19.240 there's an awful

00:39:19.720 lot of people

00:39:20.260 out there who

00:39:20.700 are quite skeptical.

00:39:22.040 And if they

00:39:22.660 let the lid off,

00:39:24.260 then their whole

00:39:25.180 consensus,

00:39:25.720 their whole

00:39:26.160 political plan

00:39:27.140 falls down.

00:39:28.000 You see this

00:39:28.900 on a bunch

00:39:29.300 of issues.

00:39:29.580 This is why

00:39:30.100 populism is a

00:39:31.880 rising force

00:39:32.900 in Western

00:39:33.980 politics,

00:39:34.580 in North America

00:39:35.360 and in Western

00:39:36.020 Europe,

00:39:36.520 because the

00:39:37.640 elites have

00:39:38.320 for too long

00:39:39.120 insisted on

00:39:40.020 certain

00:39:40.360 consensuses

00:39:41.440 which are

00:39:43.280 starting to

00:39:43.720 fall apart.

00:39:44.280 In England,

00:39:45.740 it's Brexit.

00:39:46.900 In Western

00:39:47.800 Europe,

00:39:48.320 it's immigration.

00:39:49.160 Oh, no, no,

00:39:50.040 no, no matter

00:39:50.740 how many

00:39:51.880 refugees pour

00:39:52.920 in, flood

00:39:53.480 in, it's

00:39:54.240 just all

00:39:54.940 positive.

00:39:55.420 And if you

00:39:56.940 say it's

00:39:57.440 not positive,

00:39:58.340 you must 0.99

00:39:58.860 be a racist. 0.86

00:40:00.080 And no,

00:40:00.520 there's no

00:40:01.160 Islamic

00:40:01.900 extremism.

00:40:03.020 If you

00:40:03.320 say so,

00:40:03.860 you're an

00:40:04.200 Islamophobe.

00:40:05.440 If you

00:40:05.980 think that

00:40:06.860 there isn't

00:40:07.300 climate change,

00:40:07.980 oh, then

00:40:08.540 you're a

00:40:08.900 denier.

00:40:09.620 On and on

00:40:10.340 and on.

00:40:10.640 There are

00:40:10.920 all of

00:40:11.320 these elite

00:40:11.900 consensuses

00:40:13.360 that are

00:40:14.380 slowly

00:40:15.740 starting to

00:40:16.640 irritate

00:40:17.240 ordinary people.

00:40:18.200 Free trade

00:40:18.740 is all

00:40:20.440 good for

00:40:21.100 working people.

00:40:22.660 There's

00:40:23.060 an interesting

00:40:23.640 part in

00:40:24.140 Stephen Harper's

00:40:24.960 new book

00:40:25.300 on populism

00:40:26.000 where he

00:40:26.300 talks about

00:40:26.960 free trade.

00:40:28.900 We on

00:40:29.520 the right

00:40:29.880 said free

00:40:30.580 trade was

00:40:31.160 perfect good.

00:40:33.400 And it is

00:40:34.900 in theory.

00:40:35.900 But he said

00:40:36.520 what Trump

00:40:37.100 understood that

00:40:37.960 most conservative

00:40:38.960 politicians did 0.80

00:40:39.920 not was it

00:40:40.560 displaced an

00:40:41.420 awful lot of

00:40:42.160 ordinary voters.

00:40:43.140 And those

00:40:44.180 people were

00:40:45.040 never properly

00:40:46.020 dealt with

00:40:46.760 by the

00:40:47.960 people,

00:40:48.660 the proponents

00:40:49.980 of free trade.

00:40:50.900 So it's all

00:40:51.560 of these things.

00:40:52.180 It's climate

00:40:52.540 change.

00:40:52.940 It's free

00:40:53.200 trade.

00:40:53.680 It's immigration 0.93

00:40:55.720 and a whole

00:40:56.480 bunch of other

00:40:57.040 issues where

00:40:57.900 there's these,

00:40:58.740 as you say,

00:40:59.820 people like 0.98

00:41:00.360 butts who want 1.00

00:41:00.840 to keep the 0.99

00:41:01.240 lid on things

00:41:01.920 because if they

00:41:02.580 let the lid

00:41:03.220 off, if they

00:41:04.140 acknowledge that

00:41:04.820 they might not

00:41:05.380 be 100% right,

00:41:06.620 then they lose

00:41:07.540 the political

00:41:08.100 agenda.

00:41:09.220 You know,

00:41:09.440 you remind me

00:41:10.120 of a story we

00:41:10.780 covered the other

00:41:11.200 day.

00:41:11.700 I don't know if

00:41:12.040 you caught it.

00:41:12.500 It was a leak

00:41:13.400 of the Ontario

00:41:14.840 Caucus of the

00:41:16.200 Federal Liberals

00:41:17.160 to the CBC.

00:41:18.520 Now, normally

00:41:19.020 when the Liberal

00:41:19.580 Party leaks

00:41:20.580 something to the

00:41:21.380 CBC, they want

00:41:22.680 it to get out.

00:41:23.260 But this felt

00:41:23.860 like a real leak

00:41:24.500 and I say that,

00:41:25.180 Lauren, because 0.78

00:41:26.040 of what was in it.

00:41:26.820 This was a lengthy

00:41:27.920 survey of Ontario

00:41:29.140 Liberal MPs and

00:41:30.860 they said,

00:41:32.080 hey, can we

00:41:33.100 stop talking

00:41:33.860 about how great

00:41:34.580 this carbon tax

00:41:35.400 is?

00:41:36.380 And they said

00:41:37.740 that for them

00:41:38.360 it wasn't even

00:41:39.040 in the top list

00:41:40.720 of issues to

00:41:41.360 campaign on.

00:41:42.040 I think it

00:41:42.520 was number

00:41:42.780 seven.

00:41:43.240 I'm going

00:41:43.320 from memory.

00:41:43.780 Climate change

00:41:44.140 numbers.

00:41:46.200 Yeah, it was

00:41:46.780 low down.

00:41:47.200 And they said

00:41:47.860 the number one

00:41:48.400 issue that people

00:41:49.100 would spontaneously

00:41:50.220 raise with them

00:41:51.120 was actually

00:41:51.600 immigration.

00:41:52.380 So that goes

00:41:52.820 to your point

00:41:53.420 is that if we

00:41:54.280 all, if we're

00:41:55.140 all constantly

00:41:55.900 told 97% of

00:41:57.660 people, scientists

00:41:58.300 agree, everyone

00:41:59.300 agrees, there's no

00:42:00.320 debate.

00:42:00.860 Oh, well, I guess

00:42:01.540 I better go along

00:42:02.260 with it.

00:42:02.500 But as soon as

00:42:03.260 people say, oh,

00:42:04.180 someone else

00:42:04.720 doesn't agree and

00:42:05.440 there's someone

00:42:05.840 else and a whole

00:42:06.640 election and a

00:42:07.300 premier, then we

00:42:08.820 can start to say,

00:42:09.660 yeah, the emperor

00:42:10.200 has no clothes.

00:42:10.800 We're very social

00:42:12.600 creatures.

00:42:13.660 There's the madness

00:42:14.420 of crowds.

00:42:15.220 Everybody's going

00:42:15.860 this way.

00:42:16.220 I better go with

00:42:16.900 them.

00:42:17.500 If dissent breaks

00:42:19.080 out, there's no

00:42:19.700 telling where it'll

00:42:20.480 lead.

00:42:21.220 And there still

00:42:22.460 is an inherent

00:42:24.560 respect for

00:42:25.820 institutions.

00:42:27.640 I've been a

00:42:28.440 skeptic so long

00:42:29.520 that I don't have 0.84

00:42:29.960 much respect left

00:42:31.100 for right, left,

00:42:32.480 center, doesn't

00:42:32.980 matter what it is.

00:42:33.620 I'm always dubious

00:42:34.620 of whatever people

00:42:36.820 who are in charge

00:42:39.000 try and tell me.

00:42:40.300 But there are still

00:42:40.880 a lot of people

00:42:41.340 who say, well, you

00:42:41.760 know, if scientists

00:42:42.740 think that this is a

00:42:44.160 real problem, maybe

00:42:45.000 we should listen.

00:42:46.080 I don't have time to

00:42:47.680 investigate it on my

00:42:48.640 own.

00:42:49.220 So, well, I best

00:42:50.580 trust the people who

00:42:51.840 make a living out of

00:42:52.580 doing this.

00:42:53.460 And that's how it

00:42:55.920 happens.

00:42:56.620 It certainly has some

00:42:58.080 herd mentality involved

00:42:59.240 in it.

00:42:59.860 There's the safety in

00:43:01.180 numbers thing as well.

00:43:02.280 But there's also this

00:43:03.300 idea, well, you

00:43:04.000 know, I'm working so

00:43:05.280 hard, I'm trying to

00:43:05.920 take care of the

00:43:06.440 kids, we're keeping

00:43:07.420 the house going, we're

00:43:08.640 planning our holiday,

00:43:09.760 we've got soccer to

00:43:10.600 get to, got to get

00:43:11.660 dinner on the table.

00:43:12.880 If the people who

00:43:13.940 make a living or

00:43:14.780 spend their lives

00:43:15.740 examining this say

00:43:17.000 that there's a

00:43:17.600 problem with the

00:43:18.280 climate, geez, I

00:43:19.060 better believe them.

00:43:19.980 Yeah, yeah, you're

00:43:21.080 right.

00:43:21.660 And that's why it's

00:43:22.560 disappointing sometimes

00:43:23.540 when leaders,

00:43:24.640 political leaders who

00:43:25.660 do know better, who

00:43:27.340 have the time to

00:43:28.220 investigate, say, well,

00:43:29.520 I'm worried about

00:43:30.640 being name-called, I'm

00:43:31.920 worried about being

00:43:32.700 put on the uncool

00:43:34.040 list, I'm worried

00:43:35.260 about being marginalized

00:43:35.900 so I will, so I will

00:43:37.820 knowingly go along with

00:43:40.280 it just to avoid the

00:43:41.540 hassle of it.

00:43:42.720 That, that's a

00:43:43.360 different, like, if a

00:43:44.240 severely normal person

00:43:45.200 who has to trust

00:43:46.400 someone because they're

00:43:47.180 a real person, I get

00:43:48.360 it, but if you're

00:43:49.100 supposed to be a

00:43:50.420 public policy expert,

00:43:51.540 a researcher, a

00:43:52.200 political leader, there's

00:43:53.240 no excuse for you 0.97

00:43:54.080 other than cowardice.

00:43:55.040 Now, maybe discretion's

00:43:56.540 the better part of

00:43:57.140 valor, but these days,

00:43:58.640 we need, especially in

00:43:59.540 Alberta, which has

00:44:00.280 suffered so much from

00:44:01.540 this mania, we need

00:44:04.080 people to stand up.

00:44:05.060 Now, Jason Kenney, you

00:44:06.760 know, repeal the carbon

00:44:07.620 tax, I don't care what

00:44:08.440 your rationale is, that's

00:44:09.380 happening, but I do

00:44:10.720 think that we need

00:44:11.780 conservatives to

00:44:12.560 challenge the science.

00:44:13.980 It's hard to do, but I

00:44:15.260 think once one person

00:44:16.160 does it, others will

00:44:16.940 follow.

00:44:18.000 Last word to you,

00:44:18.780 Lorne, do you think,

00:44:19.920 do you think that the

00:44:20.940 carbon tax will be

00:44:22.060 repealed in Canada the

00:44:23.300 same way it actually was

00:44:24.360 repealed a few years

00:44:25.200 back in Australia?

00:44:25.980 I think if the

00:44:28.440 conservatives win, it'll

00:44:29.380 be repealed.

00:44:30.980 I am not yet so

00:44:33.280 confident of Andrew

00:44:34.980 Scheer as a master

00:44:36.000 campaigner that I think

00:44:39.000 he's going to defeat

00:44:39.920 Justin Trudeau in

00:44:40.740 October, but if he

00:44:42.520 wins and if he pushes

00:44:43.460 hard enough on this, he

00:44:45.000 could win.

00:44:46.540 The Australian Liberal

00:44:48.100 National Coalition,

00:44:49.480 which is their right of

00:44:50.340 center party, wasn't

00:44:51.960 expected to win.

00:44:52.880 Nobody predicted them to

00:44:54.220 win.

00:44:54.360 And the talking heads

00:44:55.420 and the pollsters all

00:44:56.460 had labor winning.

00:44:57.840 And they had as their

00:44:58.940 number one issue the

00:45:00.060 prevention of the return

00:45:02.060 of the carbon tax, and

00:45:03.480 they won.

00:45:04.080 So I think Scheer can

00:45:05.580 just hammer on that and

00:45:06.580 hammer on that and

00:45:07.340 hammer on a couple of

00:45:08.120 other things, and he

00:45:09.140 might win.

00:45:10.300 A surprising victory.

00:45:12.540 But you're right to be

00:45:13.920 nervous about him, either

00:45:14.940 his campaigning skills and

00:45:16.200 also because he was

00:45:17.400 Speaker of the House for

00:45:18.220 almost 10 years.

00:45:19.320 He's a compromiser by

00:45:20.400 nature, a fight avoider by

00:45:22.940 nature.

00:45:23.260 I'm nervous about it, but

00:45:24.480 although I have my

00:45:25.320 disagreements with him, he

00:45:26.420 would be a vast improvement

00:45:27.740 over Trudeau, and I think

00:45:28.780 it's incredibly important

00:45:30.300 that he wins.

00:45:31.160 He's a nice guy.

00:45:32.020 He's a smart guy.

00:45:33.420 I'm not sure he's got the

00:45:34.320 royal jelly.

00:45:35.220 That's my concern.

00:45:36.520 Well, at this point, anyone

00:45:37.960 but Trudeau.

00:45:38.660 Well, I don't want to say

00:45:39.380 anyone because then you have

00:45:40.220 Jaggi Singer, Elizabeth

00:45:41.140 Manning.

00:45:41.160 Actually, remote-controlled

00:45:41.920 traffic cone.

00:45:43.880 Lauren, great to see you

00:45:44.880 again.

00:45:45.160 Thanks very much.

00:45:46.440 Okay, you bet.

00:45:47.080 Okay, there you go.

00:45:48.260 Our friend Lauren Gunter,

00:45:49.680 senior columnist at the

00:45:50.780 Edmonton Sun.

00:45:51.360 He's got some great columns

00:45:52.620 going on these days.

00:45:53.440 He's got one on this very

00:45:54.240 subject, and Catherine

00:45:55.380 McKenna, and he also has one

00:45:57.040 on the Philippines garbage

00:45:59.200 fiasco. 0.92

00:46:00.520 Stay with us.

00:46:01.540 My final comments are next.

00:46:03.160 Hey, welcome back on my

00:46:15.320 interview with Phelan McAleer.

00:46:16.600 Peter writes,

00:46:17.820 I have the God's Nail DVD,

00:46:19.960 and I love it.

00:46:21.040 I'm on the edge of tears

00:46:22.000 all the way through because

00:46:22.800 I know the story and how it

00:46:23.980 ends.

00:46:24.660 God bless you, Phelan.

00:46:25.660 You are a force for good.

00:46:26.920 In an age of deception,

00:46:27.880 truth becomes revolutionary.

00:46:29.540 I really like Phelan because

00:46:31.080 he doesn't recoil from

00:46:32.680 controversy.

00:46:33.620 He runs to it.

00:46:35.180 And I think if we all did

00:46:36.560 that, we'd be a lot more

00:46:37.600 successful.

00:46:38.460 I think the left is used to

00:46:40.540 people cowering and caving in.

00:46:42.340 They don't really know what

00:46:42.920 to do about a guy like Phelan

00:46:44.240 who not only fights back but

00:46:45.920 tries to turn their attacks

00:46:48.180 on him into an opportunity.

00:46:49.720 I think if he does it right,

00:46:50.860 and he's done it right in the

00:46:51.680 past, he can turn this

00:46:53.100 censorship by this theater

00:46:54.920 into more PR.

00:46:56.780 I mean, nothing sells a play

00:46:58.660 like the fact that it's

00:46:59.460 being banned.

00:47:00.520 We're going to send our

00:47:01.240 reporter, Kian Bextie,

00:47:02.120 down there, so we'll show

00:47:03.280 you what it's like.

00:47:05.040 Nathan writes,

00:47:06.400 You might find that the

00:47:07.240 doctrine of repeal, all

00:47:09.200 acts of a legislature, is

00:47:11.500 actually precedented in more

00:47:12.720 modern times than the

00:47:13.520 ancient Romans, the

00:47:14.780 Recissory Act of 1661.

00:47:17.340 I believe that this is what

00:47:18.400 Kenny should do.

00:47:19.020 Also, there should be a

00:47:20.060 referendum as to whether

00:47:20.820 Notley gets a premier's

00:47:21.860 portrait as well.

00:47:23.420 You know what, Nathan?

00:47:24.260 I did not know about the

00:47:26.220 Recissory Act.

00:47:27.180 I just, I didn't go deep

00:47:28.400 into it, but I looked on

00:47:29.520 Wikipedia, and you're

00:47:30.840 right.

00:47:31.060 I didn't know that, that in

00:47:32.560 Scotland, a new parliament

00:47:34.560 came and said, those last

00:47:35.840 eight years, that was all

00:47:38.100 illegal.

00:47:39.160 They were drunk, I think,

00:47:41.000 was the allegation.

00:47:42.560 They were pretenders.

00:47:44.220 They were illegitimate.

00:47:45.160 So they just rescinded

00:47:47.140 everything for eight years.

00:47:49.540 I'm going from memory.

00:47:50.560 So I did not know that.

00:47:52.700 So the Roman concept of

00:47:56.020 damnatio memoriae, of

00:47:58.720 literally destroying every

00:48:00.120 statue, scraping off every

00:48:02.100 painting, undoing every

00:48:03.340 law, well, the 1660s, that's

00:48:05.940 a lot more recent, isn't

00:48:06.660 it?

00:48:08.500 On my monologue yesterday

00:48:09.420 about, oh, let me just say

00:48:10.560 before I go on the next

00:48:11.380 one, I disagree with you on

00:48:13.560 the portrait.

00:48:15.060 Her portrait should be on

00:48:15.880 the wall because you don't

00:48:17.200 want to forget.

00:48:18.720 People forgot what the NDP is

00:48:20.200 like.

00:48:20.400 That's why they voted for

00:48:21.160 them.

00:48:21.340 You need a picture of

00:48:22.240 Rachel Notley and every

00:48:23.680 school child who walks by

00:48:24.940 it must be told the story.

00:48:27.620 On my monologue yesterday

00:48:28.460 about Freedom Gas, Phil

00:48:29.380 writes,

00:48:31.820 Spasiva for the 0.72

00:48:33.120 Russischi lessons and the

00:48:35.120 many laps last night.

00:48:39.100 My friends, James,

00:48:42.660 writes, from a comedic

00:48:43.680 point of view, they're

00:48:45.300 right.

00:48:46.080 Molecular Duals of Freedom,

00:48:47.060 Freedom Gas, it's

00:48:47.620 absurdly funny.

00:48:48.760 Fight the left on

00:48:49.300 something else.

00:48:50.660 They're right about this

00:48:51.320 one.

00:48:53.580 Well, I mean, look,

00:48:55.220 freedom molecules, it

00:48:57.560 doesn't come off the tongue

00:49:00.000 easily.

00:49:00.860 I remember when France was

00:49:02.620 doing something and some

00:49:03.660 American congressman wanted

00:49:04.700 to rename French fries

00:49:06.080 Freedom Fries.

00:49:07.500 It feels forced.

00:49:09.840 But, you know, I wrote a

00:49:10.900 book on this ten years ago

00:49:12.280 called Ethical Oil.

00:49:13.620 To me, that doesn't feel

00:49:16.020 forced.

00:49:17.600 Ethical energy. 0.88

00:49:19.920 It doesn't feel forced.

00:49:20.900 In fact, it's got a sort of

00:49:21.720 a sonorousness to it.

00:49:24.120 Freedom molecules,

00:49:26.140 molecules.

00:49:26.820 No one uses the word

00:49:27.980 molecule other than like a

00:49:29.880 chemist.

00:49:30.880 But ethical oil,

00:49:32.480 ethical gas, ethical,

00:49:33.960 I like ethical because it

00:49:35.780 says more than just freedom.

00:49:38.260 Give me a second on this.

00:49:40.040 My ethical oil thesis was

00:49:41.620 that Canadian oil, and this

00:49:42.640 would apply to American oil

00:49:43.420 too, is better in four ways.

00:49:46.660 And it's not just about

00:49:47.580 freedom.

00:49:47.820 Here's how I say it.

00:49:48.860 Number one, it's

00:49:49.420 environmentally responsible.

00:49:52.040 Number two, it's

00:49:53.440 economic justice.

00:49:56.040 We actually pay people

00:49:57.460 appropriately.

00:49:58.680 It's conflict free.

00:50:00.820 We don't have terrorism or

00:50:02.120 wars over it.

00:50:02.740 And number one, it respects,

00:50:04.220 number four, it respects

00:50:05.200 human rights, civil rights.

00:50:06.480 We don't throw religious 0.85

00:50:08.680 minorities in prison. 0.79

00:50:09.700 We don't throw gays in prison 0.97

00:50:11.540 like they do in OPEC 0.85

00:50:12.940 countries.

00:50:13.280 So I disagree with freedom

00:50:15.600 molecules because it sounds

00:50:16.820 goofy.

00:50:18.760 And also freedom doesn't

00:50:20.340 properly encompass

00:50:21.720 environmental responsibility,

00:50:22.900 peace, the treatment of

00:50:24.060 workers, and human rights.

00:50:25.460 But I think rebranding energy

00:50:27.860 with those four positive

00:50:29.000 attributes, or just call it

00:50:30.740 ethical, I think that is a

00:50:32.420 good idea.

00:50:33.140 I'm glad Trump's doing it.

00:50:34.220 And the fact that Russia 0.74

00:50:35.360 hates it is proof we're

00:50:37.660 doing the right thing.

00:50:39.240 All right, folks, that's all

00:50:40.380 we have for this week.

00:50:42.020 I had a great week with you.

00:50:43.640 Thank you for being with us.

00:50:45.340 Looking forward to the next

00:50:46.160 week.

00:50:46.260 There's so much news these

00:50:47.040 days, isn't there?

00:50:48.180 Until next time, on behalf of

00:50:49.740 all of us here at Rebel World

00:50:50.820 Headquarters, good night, and

00:50:53.540 keep fighting for freedom.

00:50:54.320 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - June 01, 2019

Catherine McKenna’s terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad week

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