China just threatened Canada. Will Trudeau do anything about it？
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China just threatened Canada again. Will Justin Trudeau do anything about it this time? Ezra takes a look at the latest warning from China's ambassador to Canada, and explains why we need to be prepared for retaliation. Plus, a new report from the U.S. State Department on Canadian spying on China.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take a look at a remarkable threat made to Canada by the Chinese
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ambassador. He was pretty frank. He said, we're going to keep punishing you. It's going to get
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a lot worse. We're going to retaliate. Retaliate? Retaliate for what? We're the ones who need to
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retaliate to him. Oh, my God. I take you through his comments in the Toronto Star today. It's just
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nuts. Anyways, I'll let you get to that in one second. But first, let me invite you to become
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Tonight, China just threatened Canada again. Will Trudeau do anything about it this time?
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It's July 8th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's
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Look at this. I mean, just look at it. China's ambassador warns Canadians to get ready for retaliation.
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Just stop for a second before we even read the story. So this is a diplomat whose job is to be
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diplomatic. And he's making threats like some high school bully. He's a thug. I'm sorry. That's what
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he is. He's telling us what he's going to do to us because we aren't bending the knee enough for him,
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which is incredible given how obedient and submissive Trudeau actually is towards China.
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And this is normal enough, normal enough that there isn't an emergency cabinet meeting to deal with the China threat,
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that we aren't immediately responding diplomatically, such as by rescinding credentials and sending back Chinese diplomats,
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cancelling our foreign aid to China. Yes, incredibly. Canada actually still gives China foreign aid.
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We're still giving them huge grants like that $800,000 grant Trudeau just gave to the Wuhan Institute of
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Virology. Seriously, that one. Or the bizarre contract Trudeau just signed to pay the Chinese
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military to test its virus on Canadians, his virus vaccine. We're not cancelling those. We're not
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sending home the children of pampered Communist Party elites who are in Canada attending our finest
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universities and actually receiving Trudeau's emergency payment of $500 a week, even though
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they're foreign millionaires. Is there nothing China can do to make Trudeau stop loving them? This is what
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used to be called battered wife syndrome. The more they beat him, the more he loves them.
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It's like what Margaret Trudeau told reporters after Pierre Trudeau beat her so badly she got a black
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eye. She told reporters it just showed how passionate Trudeau was, that he really cared and he was very
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macho. She said that. That's Justin Trudeau. He's taking the beating and he just won't stop loving
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the Communist Party of China. Okay, let me actually read the story now because it gets worse than the
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headline if you can believe it. China's ambassador to Canada said Canadians should prepare for retaliation
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after Ottawa protested the Asian nation's security crackdown in Hong Kong. Oh, Canadians should prepare
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for retaliation. Not Canada as a political structure or our government or our diplomats, but ordinary
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Canadians. What? Is China going to maybe start spying on us through their apps like TikTok? Yeah,
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they already do that. If you have TikTok on your phone, it automatically scrapes data like it grabs
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whatever's on your phone's memory clipboard, it's called, and it just sends it back to China because
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why not? I mean, you clicked agree to those terms of service you never read when you downloaded it.
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What are they going to do? Ban our agriculture exports? Yeah, they already did that. What are they
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going to do? Hack our leading tech company and steal all their secrets? Yeah, been there, done that.
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That's how Huawei got its start by killing Nortel. It just stole everything that Canadian scientists and
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entrepreneurs had spent years building. Oh, I don't know. Maybe they mean they're going to kidnap
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individual Canadians. Who knows? With bullies, you never really know what they're going to do.
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Let me read more. In an exclusive interview with the star, Ambassador Kong Pei Wu accused the liberal
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government of interfering in China's internal affairs by suspending the Canada-Hong Kong extradition
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treaty and stopping military and dual-use exports to the city. It's actually amazing that Canada did
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suspend the extradition treaty to Hong Kong. I mean, of course, Canada should. It would be used
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by China to harass and legally kidnap any democracy activists here in Canada. China's new security law
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is designed to prosecute people around the world for any political crime. They're arresting people in
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Hong Kong for carrying the wrong flags now. They're arresting people for singing the wrong songs now.
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So, yeah, you bet we're not going to let people extradite, be extradited from Canada to China.
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I'm just saying it's a bit of a miracle that Trudeau found the stones to actually do anything about it.
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So, baby steps. Give credit where it's due. Here's more from the star.
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Kong was reiterating and reinforcing the official line from Beijing. On Monday, a spokesperson for
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China's foreign ministry condemned the Canadian response, reserved the right to further react,
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and warned Canada would bear the consequences. I'd like to suggest you just wait and see,
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Kong said when asked what specific consequences Beijing was contemplated. As I have told you,
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we are resolute in safeguarding our national security and sovereignty. We will not just sit idly by.
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What does that mean? Are they actually saying we're violating Chinese sovereignty because we refuse to
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ship people from Canada, our sovereignty, to them for some sham trial? That's not violating
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anything of theirs. That's just saying we're not going to treat China and its legal requests for
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extradition anymore. We're not going to treat them like a real country with a real court system
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that we would treat, say, Belgium or New Zealand or Peru. We used to be that way with Hong Kong because
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Hong Kong had real courts. But now they're just a dictatorship like Beijing. They've replaced
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Hong Kong's British-style rule of law with the counterfeit Chinese variety. It's not violating
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anything of theirs. It's protecting something of ours. Only a bully talks the way they're talking.
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Here's the most surprising part of the interview. The number two China lover in Canada's Liberal
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Cabinet, number one will always be Trudeau himself, the number two China lover says he's
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maybe rethinking his love affair with the Communist Party. I'm talking about the foreign minister who,
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until about a week ago, had a $1.2 million personal bank loan from the Bank of China. He's so deep into
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China. His name is Francois-Philippe Champagne, and he said, Champagne told the Star in an interview
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Friday that Ottawa is working on a new framework for Canada-China relations based on clear rules and
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standards, Canadian interests, and values and principles, including human rights. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
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The Star gives the last word to the bully to lay out the terms of surrender by which they would beat
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us. When asked if Canadians should take that to mean releasing Hmong, that's the CFO of Huawei,
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would put an end to China's retaliatory actions, Kong said, if Canada takes the measures to remove
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the main obstacle, the Hmong case, it helps our relationship to be back on track. And that's
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conducive to the great potential of our cooperation. So if we Canadians violate our rule of love,
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we Canadians spring a prisoner from jail for political reasons, she's in the middle of a
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trial, Hmong Lanzo. If we break out laws, if we break our own laws to suit the dictatorship,
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maybe, possibly, they'll stop taking our people hostage. They think that will work on us. Now,
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I know it won't work on Canadian citizens who tell pollsters that they regard China as an enemy
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now, the government, not the people. But I'm still not convinced these threats won't work on the
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coward himself. Justin Trudeau. Stay with us for more.
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Well, I tell you, between the pandemic and then the Black Lives Matter riots and Antifa riots,
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the usual complainers on the left have been fighting for some ink and air time. I think of
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Greta Thunberg, who first tried to reinvent herself as a coronavirus expert. It was enough to fool,
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I think it was CNN that had her on a panel. And then she's tried to reinvent herself as a black
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rights activist. I don't think there is anyone whiter than Greta Thunberg. I got nothing against
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white people at all. I am a white person myself. It's just a bit odd for her to be an expert in
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whatever it takes. Come on, can I get the cameras back, please? I think it's something that a lot of
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climate hysterics have faced is that people just don't care about their fake crises when they're
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dealing with more real crises. And I think one of the legacies of the pandemic is that people are now
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extra skeptical of studies and models and anything that the UN says will true, will come true.
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We were all told about the disastrous public health models. Thankfully, none of them did come true.
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Well, will disastrous climate models come true? So many things that have set back the climate case.
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But one bizarre example comes from a place you wouldn't expect. NASA's Goddard Institute for Space
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Studies. Typically, that's a place not for uneducated activists like Greta, but rather scholars and
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scientists. Well, it's become a hotbed of, well, just weirdness. Joining us now to explain how weird
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it's getting over there with climate activists is our friend Mark Morano. He's the boss of
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ClimateDepot.com. Mark, great to see you again. Welcome back to the show.
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Thank you, Ezra. Yes, NASA has gone woke, to use that phrase.
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Now, I mean, black holes and red dwarfs, these are phrases that regard astronomy. They're not
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racial comments. There really couldn't be anything less racial than the planets and the solar system
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and the cosmos. Race is something that happens only on Earth. So how does NASA manage to get
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itself saying things like this? And I'm quoting here. Climate justice and racial justice are the
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same thing and will never head off climate catastrophe without dismantling white supremacy.
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That was from Dr. Kate Marvel, who is an associate research scientist at NASA. That was a tweet from her.
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Well, what's happened here is identity politics has invaded the climate debate. I gave a talk up in Canada
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last November in Western Canada, and I laid out all of the identity politics which had invaded. And now
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with the recent riots, you can imagine the climate activists and scientists are just doubling on. Dr. Kate
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Marvel, NASA with Goddard Space Institute, Goddard Institute of Climate Studies, has come out now full
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wokeness. And she's derailing white supremacy. She's joining her other NASA colleague, Dr. Peter
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Kalmas, who says that race justice and climate justice are one and the same. And he says that
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essentially that plutocracies are colonizing and killing black people are the same ones that
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colonized and killed our planets. So if you go by what he's saying here, they're basically, this is a war
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by NASA scientists against the last 150 years of the Industrial Revolution. If they're going after
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colonization and the whole idea of building a modern civilization, they're really turning NASA into
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social justice warriors. It's so strange. Now, I don't know the structure of NASA. I know that
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it stands for National Aeronautic and Space Administration, I think. It's an agency of the U.S.
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government. So I would assume that civil servants are generally nonpartisan. I guess if this is
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someone speaking on their own time, on their own dime, on their own Twitter feed, I mean, that's fine,
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I presume. I don't know what the rules are for a nonpartisan civil service at a place like NASA.
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But it just seems off topic more than anything. I mean, climate. Well, to their world, they're saying
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that essentially the use of fossil fuels is essentially pillaging and raping people of color
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and that any kind of mining or fossil fuel extraction is bad for the climate and bad for
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civilization, therefore. So in their mind, it's a war with many facets. And this whole identity war,
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the identity politics concept fits right into that. And by the way, NASA,
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NASA GIS, which is where Kate Marvel's from, that is where the current head is Dr. Gavin Schmidt. He
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is openly advocating calls for carbon taxes. He's very political. Prior to him, we had James Hansen
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who was arrested half a dozen times protesting global warming as the head of the NASA temperature.
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So you see how unbiased, allegedly, it is. And he also, James Hansen, the former head of this
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division at NASA, also endorsed a book suggesting ridding the world of industrial civilization was
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the way to go. Hansen said the book has it exactly right. We have to turn off the greenhouse gas
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machine. So it's been a hotbed of radicals in the climate division of NASA. Now, it's so bad that the
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NASA division that put people on the moon and put us in outer space formed a coalition called The
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Right Stuff. And they're condemning this NASA division at NASA for basically smearing and besmirching
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the good science that NASA has done. Yeah, you know, I was recently in Washington, D.C.,
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recently, right before the pandemic shut everything down. And I went to the amazing
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Air and Space Museum there. It's partly under renovations right now. But there's wonderful
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things there. You learn so much about rockets and space. And there's a wonderful IMAX movie. I think
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you can find it on YouTube. It's about the Apollo project to put a man on the moon. And it was
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thrilling and exciting. And I'd never seen the footage. It felt like it had found footage just
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beautifully done. But one of the things I was left with was just how much effort and energy it took
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to get those people into space to the moon, off the moon and back to planet Earth again.
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And I would say I don't have any proof on me, but I would say that was probably the most carbon
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intensive act that humanity has ever done. I mean, if you look at the size of the rockets and the amount
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of like it was fire, they were burning it. And to in this huge like they sent a skyscraper into space
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called a rocket. And they went so many hundreds of thousands of kilometers around the world to the
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moon and back. I can't think of any other human endeavor where so much carbon was released for,
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you know, to get two people on the moon. I think that's how many. And for these people coming out
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against carbon, shut down NASA. If you're against carbon, you better shut down the rocket program.
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And believe me, I don't think they would probably be far behind that. I mean,
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you're right. If NASA's scientists who are speaking out now essentially against modern
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civilization and what they call white supremacy, by the way, white supremacy is the new phrase for
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racism. They love that phrase now and white privilege. But white supremacy is what NASA's
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scientists seem to be using now. You know, they would have to denounce the legacy of NASA. In other
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words, if you can't have George Washington because he was a slave owner and you cannot certainly be
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work at NASA and get a paycheck from someone who spewed carbon dioxide pollution and their words
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into the atmosphere and a quest to get us in a mad quest to get us into space. So it is absurd. But
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this the rules of identity politics don't necessarily have to make an ounce of scientific sense. In fact,
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it's gotten so bad, Ezra, that there was a scientist in Africa where the hurricanes recently
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hit. And they're actually talking about the headline was white people are blamed for causing
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a cyclone in Africa. And here's the quote, even the white man's own science corroborates what we
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blacks know. And they're going on. They're actually now climate, I'm sorry, racial activists
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talking about the quote, white man's science, unquote. And this is who NASA is aligning themselves
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with. So the question you have to ask is, is climate science part of the white man's science
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or is it part of the enlightenment science? I don't know the answer.
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You know, I like to think that science is objective. Experiments can be replicated, whether
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you're black, white, green, brown, yellow, pink, whatever. Yeah, it's it really is the most
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merit based place. You know, two plus two equals four, no matter the color of the person who does
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the math. And I find it disappointing that even the hard sciences, hard sciences are falling to this
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wokeness. But I think maybe I mean, I'm looking at a picture of Kate Marvel here. She's pretty white.
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And I think maybe it's just fear that she'll be named and shamed for something. So she's it's like
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those male feminists like Justin Trudeau coming out as super woke because they think, I hope no one
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will get mad at me for all the groping I've done in my career. I mean, Justin Trudeau, of course,
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grew up that reporter in Creston, B.C. and said, whoops, I thought you were a nobody.
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Maybe she's preemptively coming out against the mob. Maybe she's saying if I denounce astronomy
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as racist, maybe the the mob won't come for me first, they'll pass my house and go after someone
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else. Just like a few years back, I don't know if you remember, there was a brilliant astrophysicist
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who happened to be wearing a sort of a gaudy Hawaiian shirt that had a lady in a bikini on it.
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And this guy had just, you know, did an amazing, amazing feat of science. But because he wore a Hawaiian
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shirt that was considered sexist, that's the whole news of his amazing space. He was drummed out of
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the place. It was just, you know, he was named and shamed. I don't know. I think that NASA is one of
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the greatest achievements, not only in American history, but in the history of humanity. And I
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think it's super gross that these people are selling out their own heritage. And by heritage,
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I mean, their intellectual, academic, and, you know, adventurous heritage, just for some
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momentary buzz in some political fashion, I find it very sad. Last word to you, Mark.
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Well, yes, this is essentially nothing short of the corruption of science and certainly what was left
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of climate scientists. In the case of Dr. Marvel and NASA herself, she popped on Twitter, made these
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comments, and then I highlighted them. And I did a mail out. I got a lot of publicity. And then she
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promptly blocked me on Twitter. And as far as I could see, hasn't been active since she did this
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tweet. So maybe she's gotten some blowback inside of NASA because she went really over the line.
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Although she's been an activist in the past promoting things like the Green New Deal.
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And she comes from this long history of this narrow band of NASA scientists willing to just go
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political. And it's really a shame because I'm going to leave you with this phrase, Ezra.
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It's science in support of policy. And we're seeing that with COVID. We're seeing it with NASA
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science. In other words, they will produce the science necessary for the desired policies.
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And the desired policies are carbon taxes, Green New Deal. Same thing, by the way, on COVID.
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Masks. Every study prior to COVID was how masks are not effective outside of medical establishment.
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This was Chicago's School of Public Health, the New England Journal of Medicine, the CDC,
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the World Health. Suddenly, politicians want to have masks because they want the public to be
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involved in fighting COVID. Now we have all these modeling studies being cranked out the last six
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weeks claiming masks work in defiance of all the previous studies. So it's science in support of
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policy. That is what NASA is engaging in when it comes to climate science. It's what the National
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Academy of Science is engaging in. It's what NOAA is engaging in. It's how they fast track studies
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before U.N. climate centers. It's how they do the national climate assessments in the U.S.
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That's what the IPCC is all about. And this is the new era of science, science in support of policy.
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And this is the ultimate policy is the, you know, the being woke. So now NASA is going to go full
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woke. I'm assuming, you know, Gavin Smith hasn't reprimanded Kate Marvel for these comments,
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and he's the head of the NASA climate division.
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Mark, it's great to catch up with you. As always, thanks for your time today.
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All right. That's Mark Moreno. He is the boss of ClimateDepot.com. I should note that I know from
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observation that NASA has astronauts of every racial and religious background,
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and this is a slander against their own organization. Stay with us. More ahead.
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Hey, welcome back to my monologue. Last night, Corey writes,
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I think the cancel mentality must be deep-seated in human nature as it keeps popping up in different
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cultures at different periods in history. We need to think of an effective way to counteract
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this unfortunate human trait. You know what? One of the people who signed that letter yesterday
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today renounced the letter because someone else she didn't like signed it also. Oh, my God.
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Yeah, I don't think she really meant to sign it in the first place, do you?
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Paul writes, you must have to be clinically stupid to be a liberal elite. Where did they think censorship
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was going to lead? Well, you know what they say. If you feed the tiger, maybe he'll eat you last.
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On my interview with Candace Malcolm on the Independent Press Gallery, Bruce writes,
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we need a free voice to tell the other side of the story. Government media are always biased
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towards their masters. Let's hope and pray this new gallery will shake up the officials.
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Well, I don't know if it's going to shake up the officials, but if it can provide some strength in
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numbers and do some things that the establishment always used to do, have a parallel track for free
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journalists. I think that's going to be progress in itself. Well, that's the show for today.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,