Rebel News Podcast - Conservatives Are Not Happy with their Representation ｜ Fog City Midge (Maggie VandenBerghe)

00:00:00.000 Maggie Vandenberg is a reporter, host, and filmmaker. 1.00

00:00:24.340 You've seen her on countless news stations,

00:00:25.960 the radio show War Room with Steve Bannon,

00:00:28.080 and you can find her on Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube at FogCityMidge.

00:00:32.300 And when I say she's heavily censored, I do not say that with any hyperbole.

00:00:36.760 Midge, Maggie, how are you doing today?

00:00:39.360 I'm great. Thank you for having me on the show.

00:00:41.680 No problem. Let's jump right into it.

00:00:44.180 I've been tracking the posts you've been making about Joe Biden,

00:00:48.180 his first press conference in, what, two months since he's been president,

00:00:52.140 obviously going at an unheard of pace.

00:00:55.840 So speedy.

00:00:56.760 It was a very sad event, Midge.

00:00:58.620 I don't know about you, but you did pull some great clips from there.

00:01:01.980 And I really want to show a couple of them and get your reaction.

00:01:05.980 The first one was where he only really called on a few reporters.

00:01:09.240 Now, there's been some photos coming out where he's got these,

00:01:12.900 he's got pictures of all the reporters, which number,

00:01:15.320 whether that's the order where they're sitting, I don't know.

00:01:18.040 But I want to get your reaction to some of the,

00:01:20.820 I want to say funny, but it's almost sad.

00:01:23.260 So let's play this first clip, Justin.

00:01:24.980 Okay. How about Yamiche?

00:01:29.020 Okay. Hang on.

00:01:34.120 Sorry.

00:01:35.400 Oh, let me get here.

00:01:38.280 Okay.

00:01:38.580 Um, Cecilia Vega.

00:01:43.620 Okay. Hang on a second here.

00:01:45.680 Kristen, uh, Nancy, CBS.

00:01:48.200 Okay. Um, where am I here?

00:01:51.540 Let me see.

00:01:52.160 Caitlin, and, uh, I think that, uh, I got one more question here.

00:01:59.420 And, uh, Janet, uh, from Univision.

00:02:02.360 But folks, I'm going.

00:02:04.300 Thank you very, very much.

00:02:05.460 I appreciate it.

00:02:06.620 Folks, I'm going.

00:02:07.580 The President of the United States, everybody.

00:02:09.240 What's your overall takeaway from that riveting press conference, Maggie?

00:02:12.880 Well, that was the best part there at the end when he walked off.

00:02:17.420 I just got to say, yeah, that was so painful.

00:02:20.380 The entire press conference was an utter disaster.

00:02:23.020 I mean, honestly, it's, it's bizarre, but I think it's so crazy to me because this whole

00:02:28.280 press conference was set up to kind of put people's minds at ease that Joe Biden, you

00:02:32.520 know, can handle it, that he's not hiding from the media, that he doesn't have a, you

00:02:37.020 know, some kind of cognitive decline, but this press conference actually did the opposite.

00:02:41.780 It confirmed for so many people that this guy needs help.

00:02:44.900 He's sitting there.

00:02:45.480 He's got notes.

00:02:46.860 He's got a list of reporters with the name circled, the people he's supposed to call on

00:02:51.780 and the people that he's not supposed to call on.

00:02:54.320 And I also saw a report claiming that the White House actually had pre-approved the questions.

00:02:59.380 So they knew who they were going to take questions from and they knew the questions in advance

00:03:03.580 and Joe Biden had his answers prepared.

00:03:05.480 So, I mean, if this doesn't confirm that this guy is not up for the task, I don't know what's

00:03:11.760 going to convince you.

00:03:13.100 I mean, what I took away is that a lot of the reactions from the reporters, if this was

00:03:19.300 Trump, it'd be completely different.

00:03:20.560 I mean, one example is Caitlin Collins from CNN, where she just let him, shot her down

00:03:25.840 completely without any pushback.

00:03:27.600 Whereas we know for a fact, if that was Trump, she'd be like, Mr. President, Mr. President, 0.96

00:03:32.100 you're killing people. 0.94

00:03:33.260 And then was Jim Acosta even there? 0.90

00:03:34.900 I'm not even sure.

00:03:36.540 No, I don't think he was.

00:03:38.280 And it would be interesting if he were.

00:03:40.180 I don't know.

00:03:40.720 I didn't see him there, though.

00:03:41.600 I don't believe he was there.

00:03:43.120 Now, there was at least one decent question I saw, which is another thing you posted.

00:03:48.560 Kamala says she doesn't know when she's going to the border, but at least Joe Biden was willing

00:03:52.480 to give an answer.

00:03:53.680 He didn't give any specifics either, but he was asked about it.

00:03:56.400 So kudos to that reporter. 0.87

00:03:57.860 Let's show that clip just so everybody knows what we're talking about also.

00:04:00.520 Will you commit to allowing journalists to have access to the facilities that are overcrowded

00:04:07.320 moving forward?

00:04:08.900 I will commit when my plan very shortly is underway.

00:04:14.280 Okay.

00:04:14.580 Just to be clear, how soon will that be, Mr. President?

00:04:17.480 I don't know.

00:04:19.240 To be clear.

00:04:19.960 To be clear, he doesn't.

00:04:22.060 At least he's clear.

00:04:23.740 At least he's clear.

00:04:24.620 When?

00:04:25.640 Shortly.

00:04:26.300 How soon?

00:04:26.980 I don't know.

00:04:27.940 So what exactly are we hoping is going to happen here?

00:04:31.260 We wouldn't get those border photos if it wasn't for Project Veritas.

00:04:35.680 We could play some of those as B-roll here, Justin, just so we can react to those.

00:04:40.260 There's no AOC going to the border midge to cry while she looks off into the distance.

00:04:48.040 He even blamed Trump the other day for the current border policies.

00:04:51.700 What exactly is going on here?

00:04:53.300 Did you see them blaming all this stuff on Trump?

00:04:57.220 Yeah.

00:04:57.780 And it's utterly shameful.

00:04:59.360 It's unbelievable because they're sitting here blaming Trump for this situation, whereas

00:05:03.520 Trump was actually the one that cleaned up so much of this.

00:05:06.040 And one of the first things Joe Biden did was reverse a lot of President Trump's executive

00:05:10.800 orders surrounding how this crisis at the border is meant to be handled.

00:05:16.280 And it's so funny because if the media had images like this, I mean, they would be utterly

00:05:20.900 attacking Trump.

00:05:21.840 They try to pretend like it's somehow better.

00:05:23.720 Oh, it's not kids in cages.

00:05:25.800 Look, it's the same thing.

00:05:27.020 It's just they've now got-

00:05:27.880 It's plexiglass now.

00:05:28.620 Now they've got plexiglass, right?

00:05:30.400 No, this is horrific.

00:05:32.360 I mean, I think anyone who sees images like this is just appalled.

00:05:35.660 And I don't, it's not going to stop.

00:05:37.520 You know, Joe Biden's policies are just encouraging a tremendous number of people to come across

00:05:42.920 our southern border this year.

00:05:44.040 I think they're anticipating 2.5 million people.

00:05:47.160 And so many of these are unaccompanied minors who now are, you know, we don't know whether

00:05:51.600 these kids are being trafficked, where they're headed, where they're coming from.

00:05:54.760 So, I mean, it's really disturbing all around.

00:05:58.580 And it's shameful that the media is not taking this seriously and treating it, you know, with

00:06:02.940 the same, I don't know, with the same consideration that they treated, you know, the situation

00:06:08.880 under Trump.

00:06:09.820 But I have to say, yeah.

00:06:11.260 I mean, I kind of have another point around that, but maybe we'll get to that later.

00:06:15.400 Well, I wanted to ask you your opinion on what Biden mentioned the other day, I believe,

00:06:20.480 was Trump ending the charity of $700 million, I think it's to El Salvador.

00:06:27.800 And he's saying that the better way to deal with this is by doing everything in their own

00:06:32.820 country, which is true to an extent.

00:06:34.360 But obviously, before Trump, the payments that we're making to these Central American

00:06:38.760 companies weren't stopping people from coming over.

00:06:41.480 And obviously, Trump got these countries, Honduras, El Salvador, even more than that,

00:06:48.280 obviously, Mexico, to stop allowing people to just cross through on their way to America.

00:06:52.760 And now he's saying, let's just go back to the thing that wasn't working.

00:06:56.000 What's your opinion on that?

00:06:57.200 Should there be no funding for these countries?

00:06:59.640 Should there be some?

00:07:00.600 Or should there be almost a billion dollars like there was before?

00:07:04.880 Well, it seems like Trump's policy helped, right?

00:07:08.200 If we don't pay these countries and ask them to help us out, then it seemed like it was

00:07:16.700 working, right?

00:07:17.480 What Trump had done before, I believe, is he was withholding money if they refused to

00:07:21.740 take back people that were supposed to be deported back to that country.

00:07:25.500 And now, Joe Biden wants to undo that and think that it's not going to affect things?

00:07:30.340 I don't know.

00:07:31.060 It's just a big, hot mess down at our southern border, and it's really frightening to just

00:07:36.560 see what's happening.

00:07:37.520 Because we have people coming over, not just from South and Central America, but people

00:07:41.520 coming over from Haiti, people coming over from the Middle East.

00:07:44.420 And yeah, we don't know who these people are, and I think it's going to open up a world of

00:07:48.220 problems.

00:07:49.000 That's why I'm rocking my Finish the Wall hat.

00:07:51.080 You know, it's crazy.

00:07:52.120 I think we could finish the wall in a couple months, but they stopped funding for it.

00:07:55.540 And so this is what they actually want.

00:07:57.280 This is, and this is what open borders looks like.

00:08:00.200 So, you know, Americans, they don't want these policies.

00:08:03.040 They voted for President Trump, but, you know, this is what we get under Joe Biden.

00:08:07.280 I think what we're seeing here, Midge, is that the plan was obviously, like, stop what

00:08:13.760 Trump's doing, stop his policies, let it overflow a little bit, and then we'll show you how much

00:08:21.380 better we are, how much more humane we are and everything.

00:08:24.020 And it just seems like it's not working.

00:08:25.900 Their plan for people to not know the difference or not have paid attention, which to be honest

00:08:30.380 is what it was pretty much before Trump, I would say probably like half the amount of

00:08:35.000 people paid attention back then until everything got blown up into everything being political

00:08:39.380 and everything being watched, which of course is good in its own sense in certain ways.

00:08:44.460 But I think their plan of nobody's going to realize what the difference is kind of backfired.

00:08:49.600 And you can kind of see that in their unwillingness to let people actually see the border.

00:08:55.180 Now, in terms of Trump's policy, you had a really good video, I thought, where you were

00:09:00.060 on War Room with Uncle Steve Bannon, as they call them, and you're talking about how people

00:09:05.960 are sort of losing faith in the GOP.

00:09:09.240 They're kind of upset with how Trump's speech went a couple of months ago, or maybe just less

00:09:15.060 than a month ago.

00:09:16.920 So I wanted to play that for everybody, because it really reflects on what I think is a global

00:09:21.760 movement here of people sort of realizing that the honesty or the representation that

00:09:28.120 they thought might have been in the party that was representing them before isn't actually

00:09:32.060 there when you take a closer look at it.

00:09:33.800 So I want to play a part of this and get you to expand on it.

00:09:37.720 And now, audience, please don't light me up.

00:09:39.560 Don't shoot the messenger, because I am just reporting what both, you know, I feel, but also

00:09:44.520 what I'm hearing a lot of other people saying.

00:09:46.700 So it's not just me.

00:09:48.100 But there are so many people that have lost faith in Donald Trump and who love Trumpism.

00:09:54.940 They do love Trump, but they want to move forward and ahead in a new way.

00:09:59.420 They're now, they were not happy at CPAC.

00:10:02.260 They did not love President Trump's speech.

00:10:04.380 What did they like about the speech?

00:10:05.920 Look.

00:10:06.560 Speech.

00:10:06.860 I thought the speech came back and had, and a thing that was grievance heavy and policy

00:10:11.600 light.

00:10:12.080 President Trump came in, I thought, and really took a time.

00:10:14.400 It was a speech with gravitas.

00:10:15.900 All right.

00:10:15.940 I have a list.

00:10:17.220 I have a list.

00:10:17.880 And this is from a social media post.

00:10:19.980 I'm not going to manspeak.

00:10:20.740 All right.

00:10:20.920 Let's go.

00:10:21.460 Okay.

00:10:22.100 Complaining about election integrity, but not doing anything for four years.

00:10:25.480 Demanding big tech be dealt with.

00:10:27.020 Again, nothing was done.

00:10:28.300 Pushing the COVID vaccine really hard.

00:10:31.400 This is a crowd that is very vaccine skeptical, especially of a vaccine that was rushed.

00:10:36.300 And Trump previously had said, you know, if people want it, they can get it.

00:10:39.160 Now he's telling everyone to go out and take it.

00:10:41.340 You know, talking about the economy, but not talking about the millions of Americans, you

00:10:46.760 know, middle-class Americans who lost everything last year, who lost their businesses.

00:10:51.220 But yet he's sitting there talking about how great the economy is doing.

00:10:53.780 Yes, because of COVID, but also because President Trump was one of the ones who started the

00:10:58.060 15 days to stop the spread.

00:11:00.000 So, you know, the speech to many felt tired.

00:11:02.520 They didn't like the 15 days to stop the spread?

00:11:04.260 People didn't.

00:11:04.840 They look back now and they realize it was all a scam.

00:11:07.140 And now it's a year since then.

00:11:08.900 And so many states are still shut down.

00:11:10.460 First of all, shout out to Steve Bannon's hair.

00:11:12.300 He's rocking these days.

00:11:13.420 It's looking good.

00:11:14.460 But no, I agree with 99% of that entire video.

00:11:18.060 It's hard for me to pick up, pick out something that I don't agree with.

00:11:20.980 People should go watch the full thing on Maggie's Instagram. 0.58

00:11:23.960 Now, did you get any blowback?

00:11:25.380 Have you been getting blowback from any, let's say, establishment GOP types or maybe some

00:11:30.300 people that don't like you saying this because you do have a very large platform?

00:11:35.340 Yeah, I mean, I've gotten a bit of pushback.

00:11:37.460 Certainly, I think there are so many people within the MAGA movement who they see Donald

00:11:42.060 Trump as like, he's our guy.

00:11:44.480 He's the guy that came in and really, you know, changed the Republican Party and he's

00:11:49.880 really our leader.

00:11:50.760 So there's a lot of people that they don't like any kind of criticism of Trump.

00:11:54.220 And so obviously with that, you're going to get some hate.

00:11:56.640 But what's crazy is that video struck a chord with so many people.

00:12:00.500 You know, that's a five minute video that I posted on my Instagram.

00:12:03.440 Normally a five minute video is not going to get 100,000 views, but it's at almost

00:12:07.220 100,000 views now and people, the comments are out of control and they're mostly positive.

00:12:12.360 They're mostly in agreement.

00:12:13.900 And I think so many people have this feeling and they had that kind of gut reaction about

00:12:19.000 the speech and it just felt tired.

00:12:22.520 It felt, I mean, there was a lot to it that, I don't know, just didn't really sit right

00:12:28.840 with people.

00:12:29.280 I think they wanted Trump to come out and say something new, but we're going back to kind

00:12:32.840 of like the same old that we've been doing for the past four years.

00:12:35.620 And people are disappointed and they feel, they feel disenfranchised because they are

00:12:40.280 and they feel like they want strong leadership from their Republican representatives and they're

00:12:45.080 not getting it.

00:12:46.180 So, you know, it's funny because I actually expected to get a lot more pushback than I

00:12:49.920 did from that video.

00:12:50.940 And it was actually overwhelmingly positive or at least a lot of people in agreement or a

00:12:56.740 lot of people that are just saying, hey, this is a conversation we need to have within

00:12:59.940 the conservative movement here in America.

00:13:01.460 It certainly is.

00:13:03.020 And we're seeing a lot of the same stuff up here.

00:13:04.960 I feel like, Maggie, people are losing faith in the conservative party.

00:13:09.180 It seems like they don't do anything.

00:13:10.760 They're silent on big issues.

00:13:13.140 Tech censorship is one of them.

00:13:15.060 Immigration is another one. 1.00

00:13:16.300 Even though across the board up here, a majority of Canadians want less immigration, but no party

00:13:22.120 is willing to touch that on a large level.

00:13:24.620 Any successful party even.

00:13:26.020 Is it the same feeling down there that people thought that it was going to be really a progression

00:13:31.640 of Trumpism in the Republican Party and they're not exactly seeing that?

00:13:35.160 Besides, of course, the same people that we would see earlier, the Gavin Newsom's and people

00:13:40.360 like that.

00:13:40.680 Is it the same feeling down there that you're seeing?

00:13:44.380 Well, look, I think just part of the problem is that, you know, Trump was different than other

00:13:51.180 Republicans, right?

00:13:52.020 He kind of took common sense stuff that we've been wanting to get done in this country for

00:13:56.180 a long time, and he made that the new platform.

00:13:58.600 Whether it was a left or right issue, he kind of brought it to the forefront.

00:14:02.380 And there were so many people that hated him for it.

00:14:04.600 They hated him because he was anti-establishment and he was actually able to get things done

00:14:08.620 that, you know, if you campaign on something four years out, hey, I'm going to fix this problem,

00:14:13.900 then you don't fix the problem.

00:14:15.560 Then you have something to still continue to campaign on.

00:14:17.680 But Trump came in and he actually fixed a lot of problems.

00:14:19.960 And, you know, there are these sort of Trump Republicans within the movement that people

00:14:25.000 love.

00:14:25.580 And then there's the regular Republicans and then there's the rhinos, right? 0.59

00:14:28.960 And I think the average Republican is kind of weak, is kind of probably been there a long

00:14:34.940 time, just wants to keep their seat, doesn't want to make waves.

00:14:37.660 They don't want to be known as being, you know, someone that's going to rock the boat or mess

00:14:41.280 up things for their, you know, big donors that want, you know, cheap immigration and cheap 0.79

00:14:45.860 labor.

00:14:46.160 And so, yeah, they just continue to carry on with the status quo.

00:14:51.160 And I think that's why so many people within the Republican Party were happy to throw Trump

00:14:56.260 under the bus on the 6th.

00:14:57.820 And I think that felt like a big betrayal to so many voters and so many supporters of

00:15:02.680 President Trump in the conservative movement, because we wanted to see our leadership stand

00:15:06.860 up for us, stand up for what we voted for and our values.

00:15:11.020 And instead, they kicked our leader to the curb.

00:15:14.100 So I think a lot of people feel left behind and a lot of people feel very angry and betrayed

00:15:19.160 by the GOP because, you know, there's so many tough people out there.

00:15:23.300 There's so many tough Americans who are out there.

00:15:25.360 They fought.

00:15:26.320 They helped campaign for these candidates.

00:15:28.440 And yeah, they want to see their Republican conservative values represented.

00:15:32.360 And they're not being represented and they're not being fought for.

00:15:35.040 And look what happened.

00:15:36.120 We handed over the election.

00:15:37.320 We allowed Joe Biden and the Democrats to, you know, basically take this from us, right?

00:15:45.160 And hold on.

00:15:46.340 And it's 100 bajillion votes.

00:15:48.600 He's the best, most popular president of all time.

00:15:52.100 Way more popular than Barack Obama.

00:15:54.200 80 million votes.

00:15:55.400 I know.

00:15:55.920 And of course, you know, for YouTube out there and everyone.

00:15:58.340 Yes, of course.

00:15:59.240 Yes, he's the unquestionable ruler of this universe.

00:16:02.780 Now, you got so beloved.

00:16:04.660 So beloved.

00:16:05.240 And this is a lot of what you're saying in that the extension, the extended version,

00:16:10.100 we'll call it, of that post that people should go watch.

00:16:12.400 And what I got from the speech is sort of the same thing.

00:16:15.640 You know, I tried to watch it.

00:16:17.040 I couldn't get through the whole thing, to be completely honest, because after the first

00:16:20.420 two minutes, after the, what's the word, the honeymoon feeling left, I was like, this

00:16:26.120 is just sort of like a campaign speech that we've seen a hundred times before.

00:16:30.020 You're right.

00:16:30.500 There was not really anything new.

00:16:31.900 Um, he didn't even really drop any surprises.

00:16:34.960 He just said, oh, maybe I'll run again, essentially.

00:16:37.340 So I think that's the reason you're speaking to is that it didn't seem like anything progressed.

00:16:42.940 It's just like, basically, if he was running right now, it'd be like, vote for me for the

00:16:46.840 same reasons, even though it doesn't seem like nothing's going to change.

00:16:49.800 Now, something I wanted to ask you about that we didn't show, and I asked you if it was

00:16:54.840 okay to talk about this so people don't hate me out there.

00:16:57.100 You mentioned in that video that you lost a marriage over this.

00:17:00.200 Do you want to, do you want to talk about that a little bit?

00:17:01.920 Because I think that's very interesting.

00:17:04.340 Yeah.

00:17:04.740 I mean, I don't think it's that interesting, but I'll expand a little bit.

00:17:08.140 You know, what I was getting, the point I was getting at in that video isn't to say,

00:17:12.020 woe is me or anything, but to say like, there's a lot of people who came out of the closet,

00:17:15.980 politically, so to speak, and who fought for Trump and who put their values on the line

00:17:19.760 and who lost a lot.

00:17:20.740 They lost friends, they lost family, they lost business, you know, myself included.

00:17:24.760 And, you know, I even lost my marriage.

00:17:26.900 And, you know, things, basically what happened in my own personal life is that, you know,

00:17:32.160 I was very politically outspoken.

00:17:33.900 I started to really question the media, question the establishment.

00:17:37.880 And my, you know, my ex-husband was, you know, he was politically not involved.

00:17:42.940 He wasn't interested.

00:17:43.840 He had actually never voted in his entire life.

00:17:46.740 And, you know, basically, if you have issues with someone and you don't respect their politics,

00:17:53.140 it's going to cause your relationship to fracture.

00:17:55.740 And it doesn't even have to be politics.

00:17:57.180 It can be anything.

00:17:58.140 If you lose respect for the person that you are, you know, committed to,

00:18:02.680 then you're not going to be loyal to them.

00:18:04.640 You're not going to be faithful to them.

00:18:05.760 You're not going to be a good partner to them.

00:18:07.600 And it's really crazy to me that someone who, you know, I have had a lot of respect for

00:18:12.740 and who is, you know, just, I thought he was politically open-minded, if not maybe conservative-leaning.

00:18:19.400 But he read the New York Times every day, and he was convinced that Trump was a monster because the New York Times is,

00:18:25.580 you know, according to him, the best, you know, most reputable newspaper on the planet.

00:18:30.400 And it's unfortunate because I think that that sort of brainwashing happened to a lot of people

00:18:35.740 where they sort of had their trusted institutions and they carried on trusting for them,

00:18:40.420 not realizing that they had become complete propaganda outlets for the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:18:45.160 And so, you know, if you're convinced that Donald Trump is a monster and he's an idiot and he's never going to win 1.00

00:18:51.000 and anyone who supports him is a complete idiot, you know, where does that leave you in your personal life? 1.00

00:18:56.400 And I think a lot of people can relate if there are, you know, partnerships or friendships 1.00

00:19:00.820 that have been sort of fractured and damaged because of political differences,

00:19:04.720 because it really comes down to how could you respect the person you're with

00:19:08.400 if you truly believe that Donald Trump is Hitler?

00:19:11.360 Like, if you truly believed that, then there's no way you can have respect for someone who votes for them.

00:19:17.260 And I think that's sort of that all falls back to just how despicable the media in this country is

00:19:24.340 and what they've done to people and what they've done.

00:19:26.560 They've torn families apart and it's completely evil.

00:19:29.780 And so when Donald Trump used to say things like, you know, the media is the enemy of the of the American people,

00:19:35.100 I tend to agree with that.

00:19:37.160 I mean, because we see now the way that they handle Biden, the way that they've covered the election,

00:19:42.160 the way that they, you know, cover Democrat scandals like Hunter Biden's laptop versus, you know,

00:19:47.800 things that happen to conservative politicians or scandals that may arise.

00:19:51.720 It's completely different.

00:19:53.320 And, you know, it's sort of like, where does this leave us as a country?

00:19:57.300 We're so divided.

00:19:58.140 So, you know, it's really not a surprise what ended up happening with my marriage

00:20:03.780 and when I know with a lot of friendships and other, you know, families that have been divided over politics.

00:20:08.180 But it's just sad to see.

00:20:10.860 For sure.

00:20:11.860 And in case you're wondering, I'll be starting my Dr. Phil like program a week from now.

00:20:17.700 I think we should.

00:20:18.880 I think we should start it.

00:20:20.040 Political therapy?

00:20:21.420 Let's have political therapy. 0.86

00:20:22.960 We could have couples to come together.

00:20:24.460 I actually think it would be a great show if somebody did something like that.

00:20:27.260 Of course, you never see anything real on these talk shows, but that would be something amazing.

00:20:31.120 Have a couple come in and sit down and actually hash out their political arguments. 0.84

00:20:35.180 Get someone like Jordan Peterson to do it.

00:20:37.020 He could sit in and moderate and actually probably, you know, shed a lot of light on these issues for people

00:20:41.780 because I think so many people are dealing with this.

00:20:44.140 I call it the TV told me so syndrome.

00:20:46.600 What do you see and do experience?

00:20:48.700 And I think you're right, it happens a lot.

00:20:51.120 Now, I want to transition to, I mentioned off the top, your censorship.

00:20:55.340 The censorship of you, I should say.

00:20:57.520 You might be the most censored out of anyone I know, anyone I follow, and it's probably

00:21:02.600 because you don't have a huge company like Fox or something like that behind you or like

00:21:06.800 Steven Crowder with Blaze where they can just say, expose this and say, hey, a lot of people

00:21:11.920 are going to come after you online, your fans and such, if you don't correct this.

00:21:17.720 Now, I want to pull up the screenshot that I made, Justin.

00:21:20.180 Now, I highlighted a few of the numbers there.

00:21:22.220 This is from your Instagram reels, and you have a lot of followers there.

00:21:25.600 You can see the first ones.

00:21:27.020 There's two there that are about 150,000, like 137 and 148.

00:21:31.180 And then the one on the furthest to the left goes down to 700, which to me is-

00:21:37.220 Wait, you got to scroll down.

00:21:38.340 I can't see it.

00:21:39.320 Oh, you can't see it?

00:21:40.180 Okay.

00:21:40.600 Well, it's-

00:21:41.520 The producer got to scroll down.

00:21:42.400 Well, we can articulate what it is.

00:21:43.780 It's a screenshot.

00:21:44.700 You can't scroll.

00:21:45.420 Jeez, Mitch.

00:21:45.960 Okay.

00:21:46.620 Oh my gosh.

00:21:47.420 Sorry.

00:21:47.660 But yeah, so basically on the screenshot, yeah, there were like reels, and some of them

00:21:52.360 had, you know, tens of thousands of views.

00:21:54.320 Like, I think one had a couple hundred thousand views, and then one had like four views.

00:21:59.080 One's got 700 compared to the ones that are almost 150,000, which to me tells me that they

00:22:05.040 actually literally hid it from people, not just they shadow banned it, literally did not

00:22:10.540 display it to people.

00:22:12.260 Because statistically speaking, people are bound to just, oh, scroll by it, person I

00:22:17.620 follow clicked on something.

00:22:18.760 That's completely insane.

00:22:20.140 And assuming you made a story about it, I think I talked about this on another podcast,

00:22:23.680 assuming you at least made one story about it, or one person shared it, at least a couple

00:22:28.780 thousand people are going to see it, and they completely, completely hid it.

00:22:32.540 Did you ever seek an explanation?

00:22:34.360 Did you even bother?

00:22:36.180 You know, it's wild, and I kind of have deduced a lot of these things that Instagram does,

00:22:41.560 and they're always changing the rules, the algorithms, sort of the censorship of the day.

00:22:46.580 But you can test it for yourself.

00:22:48.060 It's crazy.

00:22:48.860 Like, you can do, you can look up a hashtag like, you know, Black Lives Matter, and you'll

00:22:53.660 see hundreds of thousands of, you know, videos tagged, posts tagged on Instagram.

00:22:59.140 But if you look up something like, like, All Lives Matter, you see how many you see with

00:23:02.840 that.

00:23:03.080 And sometimes they straight up just, like, silence them, where you type in, like, I heard, I

00:23:07.820 think if you type in, like, White Lives Matter, you don't see anything.

00:23:10.560 So it's like, why are certain posts being shadow banned?

00:23:14.780 And they did this throughout the election as well.

00:23:16.940 They would, like, censor what you could and couldn't search for, especially with coronavirus,

00:23:21.620 you know, like, alternative treatments for it, you know, not just, like, the prescribed

00:23:26.440 Dr. Fauci recommended stuff.

00:23:28.540 So, you know, the censorship is really wild.

00:23:31.320 It's fascinating.

00:23:32.480 And it's crazy to just see how, you know, I remember right now there's been kind of,

00:23:37.320 like, a lift of the shadow ban.

00:23:38.760 But it's two weeks prior to the election.

00:23:41.340 They put a giant, massive shadow ban on basically all conservative political accounts.

00:23:46.680 And they wanted to silence everyone.

00:23:48.280 And then it just was lifted recently.

00:23:50.100 And it was wild because everyone I know, for the most part, saw a large drop in their

00:23:55.360 engagement.

00:23:55.740 And I actually measured mine.

00:23:57.260 And I saw a drop, I think, in 96% of my engagement, which is crazy.

00:24:01.220 So if your account's used to getting about, you know, a million views or impressions per

00:24:05.560 week, and all of a sudden you're down to, like, you know, like, a few thousand, I mean,

00:24:10.760 it's crazy.

00:24:11.600 So all of a sudden you're just like, what am I supposed to do with this?

00:24:14.300 What am I going to do with this account?

00:24:16.080 You know, do I even continue posting?

00:24:17.880 And that's basically what I think they wanted to see happen.

00:24:20.820 They want to ensure that conservatives are, you know, can't make a living off of their

00:24:26.300 content, that they aren't reaching people, that no one's seeing it because they don't

00:24:30.220 want the truth to get out there.

00:24:31.620 I think it's along the lines of wanting people to think, maybe in the generic public, to think

00:24:37.900 that these views are so fringe that they barely even exist.

00:24:41.240 So when they're criticizing them, they can see, like, oh, nobody talks about this.

00:24:44.800 You can see they're not all, they're really not on these platforms.

00:24:48.340 Luckily, there are a lot more platforms popping up.

00:24:51.480 It's just a term of them getting popular over here.

00:24:53.980 Rebel News having been demonetized now, which is a club that I know.

00:24:58.360 I heard about that.

00:24:59.660 I know we're both in that club.

00:25:02.260 We're moving towards Rumble and things seem to be hopefully picking up there as well as

00:25:07.260 I wish Parler didn't go down for that month or so went down because I don't think they've

00:25:12.940 gotten the traffic back that they had before that.

00:25:15.700 You're an insider, Midge.

00:25:17.340 Do you know anything about Trump's social media platform?

00:25:21.560 I don't know anything, but he did say it's supposed to launch within the next few months.

00:25:25.420 And I guarantee as soon as that happens, I just hope they're ready for a lot of traffic

00:25:29.020 because I can, my guess is, is that they're going to have millions of people getting off

00:25:33.860 of these other platforms and wanting to go there as soon as it's available because

00:25:37.260 so many people are like, well, I'm going to keep my Facebook.

00:25:39.720 I'm going to keep my Twitter for now.

00:25:41.440 I haven't been banned yet.

00:25:42.620 It's still a good way of reaching people, but they kind of do so reluctantly.

00:25:46.080 Like I have my, you know, I have my other accounts that haven't been suspended yet and

00:25:50.100 I'm going to carry on posting there just because it is still the best way to reach a wide audience.

00:25:54.920 But, you know, there's really not a great alternative that exists at this point.

00:25:59.160 Like I love Gab.

00:26:00.100 I love Parler, you know, when it had sort of its traction, but it's, it's just really hard

00:26:05.600 to sort of build up and get the same amount of eyeballs that you have on these other

00:26:08.580 platforms. And also I kind of like that.

00:26:11.500 I get to reach people on the left, in the middle, on the right, on these other platforms,

00:26:16.260 like on Twitter and on Facebook.

00:26:18.020 So it's kind of like, I don't want to live in an echo chamber, but at the same time,

00:26:22.360 I also want to feel like I can say what I really believe and not have a fear about being demonetized

00:26:27.980 or being silenced or censored.

00:26:30.500 I'm sure just like me, you remember the feeling of when you were first starting out

00:26:34.060 and having people see your stuff and your audience grow and you're like, oh, this is

00:26:38.340 so wonderful.

00:26:39.060 People actually see it.

00:26:40.180 And then I don't think people understand how easy it is to see a difference when your things,

00:26:44.880 when your content is demonetized or shadow banned, because when you're a person who that's

00:26:50.020 sort of their life creating content, you, you notice these little differences when you're

00:26:54.800 checking it all the time.

00:26:55.680 But I just wanted to write down here, make sure to get Midge banned on remaining social media.

00:27:00.660 OK, OK, now that I got that, that's going to be the end of our YouTube segment on a

00:27:05.180 very high note, of course.

00:27:06.760 So if you guys want to see the rest of the interview, go to rebelnewsplus.com or rebelnews.com

00:27:11.280 slash Andrew underscore says $8 a month Canadian made.

00:27:14.700 So that's like three cents for you.

00:27:16.360 And you can get the rest of the interview and the rest of the shows.

00:27:19.380 And what are we going to be talking about?

00:27:20.520 We're going to talk about the state of Washington, D.C.

00:27:23.180 It's still under some sort of crazy military lockdown.

00:27:25.940 And we're going to ask Midge who she's going to vote for and who she likes in politics

00:27:30.260 right now.

00:27:30.820 So rebelnewsplus.com for just $8 a month, you guys.

00:27:33.760 And now we've moved to magical image behind the paywall, the sanctity and the safety of

00:27:58.320 Rebel News Plus.

00:27:59.280 And we can ask you anything we want.

00:28:00.640 We can ask you about Flat Earth.

00:28:01.880 We can ask you about the fake moon, the supercomputer of Saturn and all that stuff.

00:28:06.860 But what I want to ask you about is the state of D.C.

00:28:10.200 And recently you posted a YouTube video from Washington showing all the fencing that's still

00:28:16.200 there.

00:28:16.640 Of course, it's allowed even though walls are evil.

00:28:19.560 A concertina wired razor sharp and it's still the military presence is still there.

00:28:24.860 Let's go ahead and play a clip from that video, Justin.

00:28:27.460 I don't think a lot of people are showing what it still looks like in D.C.

00:28:32.640 This is Maggie Vandenberg and today I am in Washington, D.C.

00:28:37.020 It's about two months from the occupation here with the military presence, as well as the

00:28:44.140 added additional security, fencing and razor wire surrounding the Capitol.

00:28:49.360 Over here you can see the Supreme Court.

00:28:51.440 Just so much razor wire and additional security and not just one layer of fencing.

00:28:57.160 There's actually multiple layers of fencing which congressmen and staff members are required

00:29:01.760 to go through various checkpoints in order to enter the Capitol and the buildings surrounding

00:29:07.480 the Capitol.

00:29:08.540 It's disturbing.

00:29:09.500 It's bizarre.

00:29:10.380 It does not feel American and it needs to come down.

00:29:14.000 This fence needs to come down.

00:29:16.060 We need to have liberty.

00:29:18.060 Why don't we live in a police state?

00:29:20.100 So, Mitch, I love that guy.

00:29:22.500 That guy was out there for two days and he just came up by himself.

00:29:26.340 He's like, I'm out here just protesting.

00:29:28.180 This is wrong.

00:29:29.020 Why is this up?

00:29:30.580 And it's sad because actually I talked to him.

00:29:33.360 I said, why aren't there more people out here?

00:29:34.740 But so many people are afraid, you know, after the arrest following what happened on January

00:29:39.420 6th.

00:29:40.200 I think so many people are afraid to go to their Capitol and air their grievances and

00:29:44.400 say, look, this is wrong.

00:29:45.760 Why is this fencing up?

00:29:46.900 You know, we don't live in a in a militarized police state.

00:29:50.760 And even just the residents of Washington, D.C., most of whom are Democrats, they're very

00:29:55.460 against the fencing in the military presence as well.

00:29:57.920 They want to get back to, you know, living their life.

00:30:00.320 And there's no there's no discernible threat.

00:30:03.040 And, you know, Nancy Pelosi received a, you know, a brief of, you know, what they were

00:30:08.600 expecting or what the actual intel was that was sort of, you know, driving this this presence

00:30:14.740 of the military.

00:30:15.360 And my understanding is there's really nothing in that report because they they won't show

00:30:19.860 it to anyone.

00:30:20.680 So, you know, there's really not a reason for that to be up.

00:30:24.900 You know, it's it's wild because the actual military, the National Guard who are there do

00:30:30.360 not have any ammunition in their in their guns and their weaponry.

00:30:33.860 So it just sort of begs the question, like, how are you actually defending this space?

00:30:38.700 It appears to me it's all just theater.

00:30:41.320 It's all just, you know, optics to send a particular narrative that we need to protect

00:30:47.120 the space from these, you know, armed terrorist insurrectionists, you know, those horrible 0.95

00:30:52.520 Trump supporters. 0.92

00:30:54.680 But in reality, they're not really doing much out there.

00:30:57.860 It's just a show.

00:30:58.640 Yeah, and I'd like to point out that when there is a church being set on fire, the president's

00:31:04.780 church, there was the Secret Service tower set on fire, nightly riots, no fencing, no

00:31:12.740 heavy military presence.

00:31:14.180 I could be wrong that there was a there were some National Guard there.

00:31:16.760 I don't recall.

00:31:17.580 There's obviously SWAT and everything, but it wasn't a national tragedy requiring the razor

00:31:25.280 wire to be up for what we're almost we're more than two months past now.

00:31:30.240 So there's maybe they're just somebody that they want to be paying.

00:31:33.500 They want the we call the reservists here.

00:31:36.080 I know their National Guard there.

00:31:37.260 Maybe they just want to want to make them feel like they're doing some good.

00:31:40.920 You mentioned in one of your videos that you're getting a lot of feedback from people who are

00:31:45.420 saying, and I alluded to this earlier, that they won't vote for the Republican Party

00:31:49.380 again.

00:31:50.460 Can I ask you now, does that include you, Maggie?

00:31:55.060 No, no.

00:31:56.380 I'm certainly going to carry on voting Republican because I'm not about to vote third party or

00:32:01.560 vote for a Democrat anytime soon.

00:32:04.000 No Green Party?

00:32:04.760 Come on.

00:32:06.000 Yeah.

00:32:06.340 Oh, yeah.

00:32:06.680 Those guys.

00:32:07.400 What a great use of your vote.

00:32:09.060 You know, but for all the Democrats out there, please carry on voting for the Green Party.

00:32:12.520 It's really going to help.

00:32:13.620 So just keep doing that.

00:32:14.800 But no, you know, it's funny, sort of my argument and a lot of what I've been trying to get people

00:32:20.720 to understand is that what we have in Washington, D.C. really isn't a true second party.

00:32:27.300 We don't really have a second party with like, you know, Republican, Democrat option.

00:32:31.140 What you really have is a uni party.

00:32:32.600 And you've got these people who have been in office for 30, 40 years, and they all work

00:32:36.040 together.

00:32:36.560 And you see people like Mitch McConnell, who's supposed to be the leader of the Republican

00:32:40.580 Party, right?

00:32:41.660 When under Trump he was.

00:32:42.960 And so you've got this guy who's the leader, but yet he's out there going to church with

00:32:48.680 Joe Biden and saying like, oh, yeah, we need to get together and work on things.

00:32:53.500 So you just kind of look at this.

00:32:55.140 It's all very swampy.

00:32:56.280 It's all very disturbing.

00:32:57.880 And I think at the local level, you still have wonderful people who are still true,

00:33:02.640 you know, Republican conservatives.

00:33:04.920 But at the national level, you've just got so many swamp creatures.

00:33:07.980 And don't get me wrong.

00:33:08.620 There are great people within the Republican Party.

00:33:10.740 Yeah, I want to ask, who do you like?

00:33:12.880 I love Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:33:14.420 I think she's awesome.

00:33:15.400 If anyone, I feel like she's kind of the future of the party.

00:33:18.180 You've got great people like Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert.

00:33:20.480 You've got the Jim Jordans out there.

00:33:22.060 But there are so many swamp creatures.

00:33:23.440 And even people that, you know, I fell for that I was like, oh, they're doing great stuff.

00:33:28.480 You know, people like Lindsey Graham, who, you know, at the end of the day, he's swamp as

00:33:31.480 well.

00:33:32.480 So it's really shameful.

00:33:34.540 It is.

00:33:35.260 It's really sad.

00:33:36.400 And, you know, when Trump came out initially and said that he was going to create a new

00:33:40.280 party, I felt like, yes, boom, this is the revolution that we need.

00:33:44.380 President Trump is an amazing builder.

00:33:46.200 He can build, he built a movement.

00:33:47.880 He's built, you know, these incredible, you know, complexes and buildings and skyscrapers.

00:33:53.860 And for him, I feel like he's actually could build something incredible, whereas normally

00:33:57.520 you can't really get a third party off the ground, although I don't even like the term

00:34:00.920 third party.

00:34:01.600 I try to think of it like a new party, an alternative to the uni party in D.C.

00:34:06.100 And if he did something like this, I think he would get, I would think millions of people

00:34:09.580 from the MAGA movement would come over.

00:34:11.140 I think we'd pick up some independents.

00:34:12.340 I think we'd pick up some, you know, populist Bernie bros.

00:34:16.000 And certainly all the great people within the Republican Party, I think, would go over to

00:34:19.400 that new party.

00:34:20.040 But instead, I think that was also what I was kind of bummed out about with, you know,

00:34:24.360 President Trump's speech at CPAC, is we see him instead come out and say like, hey, I

00:34:28.640 feel like we should all just get behind the Republicans and I'm just going to campaign

00:34:32.080 for them and we're going to primary out with a few bad people. 0.96

00:34:34.700 It's not just a few rhinos who are awful.

00:34:37.140 It's like, it's all the people that certified a fraudulent election, in my opinion.

00:34:41.420 And that was a lot of people.

00:34:43.500 So, yeah, that's kind of, that's my beef with the GOP.

00:34:48.080 And I mean, I'm still going to vote GOP.

00:34:50.420 And I also have to clarify for people, I'm active in my local Republican Party.

00:34:56.000 And I think that other people need to be as well.

00:34:58.300 You need to become a precinct committee man or woman and you need to serve locally.

00:35:03.040 You need to ensure that you are responsible for the nomination of really MAGA conservative

00:35:09.260 candidates and not just establishment and not just rhinos.

00:35:12.400 So I feel like the more great people that are in this sort of patriot populist uprising

00:35:20.820 in America, we need to be involved at the grassroots level because that's the only way we're going

00:35:25.640 to ensure that we are, you know, electing great candidates and not just carrying on with the

00:35:29.700 establishment forever.

00:35:31.400 I think the easiest times to tell when it's a uniparty, as you say, which, by the way, 0.95

00:35:38.620 completely feels like that up here as well.

00:35:41.160 There hasn't been any talk about the lockdowns from the conservatives, nothing about civil rights,

00:35:45.760 nothing about censorship, like I mentioned.

00:35:47.320 But the best way to see in the United States politics of who is who is when we start talking

00:35:51.900 about wars and Lindsey Graham.

00:35:54.480 Unfortunately, all the time I like what he says.

00:35:56.320 But when it comes to dropping bombs, he's certainly on on that side, the perpetual war

00:36:01.820 side.

00:36:02.280 Now, my last question to you, Mitch, is tell the people what's going on, what's coming

00:36:07.900 up in the future for you, where they should find you right now.

00:36:11.740 Well, I would say to your audience, please make sure you're following me on YouTube and

00:36:16.100 also go follow me on Rumble as well.

00:36:17.960 It's so hard to build up a following on Rumble.

00:36:20.820 I think it's just so new and you don't have that massive eyeballs that we have and that we

00:36:24.820 can rely upon on a larger platform.

00:36:27.220 So if any of these platforms are going to take off, we're going to need people to make

00:36:30.280 sure that they're going out and they're following on these alternative platforms.

00:36:33.260 I'm on Gab and Parler, too, at Fog City Midge.

00:36:36.200 So you can find me everywhere and also continue following me on all the regular places as well.

00:36:40.640 But, you know, I'm just doing my best right now to try to stay afloat and continue to bring

00:36:45.100 people to truth and try to cover these stories that no one's really covering, like what's

00:36:48.600 happening at our border, what's happening in Washington, D.C.

00:36:51.180 with the military occupation and what's happening within the MAGA movement itself and trying

00:36:55.780 to make sure that, you know, that Republican leadership is actually listening to people

00:37:00.840 and not just assuming that they're going to get our vote no matter what.

00:37:04.680 They actually have to represent us and making sure that people stay honest about that.

00:37:09.480 Well, it's always good to talk to you, Midge.

00:37:11.020 I support you.

00:37:12.140 I'm glad we got to have this conversation.

00:37:14.380 I think the videos you do are very important.

00:37:17.320 I love the clips.

00:37:18.140 I think it's a very good way to absorb a lot of the stuff that happens and the way you

00:37:22.700 present them is really good, too.

00:37:24.320 Last words, anything you want?

00:37:27.480 No, just follow me.

00:37:28.840 Oh, and if they liked any of the clips that you played, those full videos are great.

00:37:32.180 So I recommend people go look them up because, yeah, the full board, the, excuse me, the full

00:37:37.200 video from the Capitol and also the longer interview with Steve Bannon were both excellent videos.

00:37:42.460 So, yeah, just check them out.

00:37:43.940 They're on all my social media and my YouTube and Rumble.

00:37:47.120 Yeah, I think some people might get a little bit of a different opinion of Steve Bannon when

00:37:52.520 they watch some of this stuff.

00:37:53.460 So, again, thank you and I'll talk to you soon, okay?

00:37:56.580 Thank you so much for having me.

00:37:57.880 Okay.

00:37:58.300 All right.

00:38:05.620 Bye.

00:38:06.560 Thank you.

00:38:07.380 Bye.

00:38:07.960 Bye.

00:38:08.340 Bye.

00:38:08.480 Bye.

00:38:08.840 Bye.

00:38:09.820 Bye.

00:38:10.100 Bye.

00:38:10.720 Bye.

00:38:11.740 Bye.

00:38:12.120 Bye.

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Rebel News Podcast - April 02, 2021

Conservatives Are Not Happy with their Representation ｜ Fog City Midge (Maggie VandenBerghe)

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