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00:00:00.000 Well, you heard it right there.

00:00:23.640 We're warning you about censorship on YouTube, at least, and elsewhere in life.

00:00:28.980 If you say the wrong thing, you will be censored.

00:00:32.460 I think in some ways it's much worse than government censorship.

00:00:35.800 My experience with government censorship is they at least follow some procedure.

00:00:42.300 They give you some sort of notice that there was some complaint.

00:00:45.980 There's some sort of hearing, maybe some sort of an appeal.

00:00:50.580 And there's some transparency.

00:00:55.760 Whereas corporate censorship, none of those things happen.

00:00:58.560 You're just suspended or deleted.

00:01:01.380 There's no way to reply or appeal or interact.

00:01:06.120 Laws don't apply because it's some Facebook Supreme Court, which is a fake thing.

00:01:10.620 It's just whatever they want.

00:01:12.360 And it's very opaque.

00:01:14.680 And, of course, the more thoughtful and creative censors in government see that and say, hmm, if I try and censor people through government, there's going to be a big fuss.

00:01:28.100 There's going to be a trial.

00:01:29.120 Well, I'm in the hands of a nominally independent judge who might not like it.

00:01:33.400 And if this could be a very extended matter, what if I just contract out my censorship to Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Google, LinkedIn, Pinterest, Apple, Android?

00:01:48.000 And I said, what if I contract it out?

00:01:50.580 In fact, what if we do censorship just very under the table, very in a whisper, maybe a phone call saying, hey, can you keep an eye on this?

00:02:01.580 And we've seen that before.

00:02:02.660 We've interviewed someone who worked as a censor at Facebook, basically in a factory in Arizona.

00:02:08.120 There were hundreds of them who would just review hundreds and hundreds of offensive Facebook posts.

00:02:15.860 And they had a rule book.

00:02:17.720 And the most terrifying thing about that interview, we'll have to have that Facebook censor back on another day.

00:02:23.400 First of all, they targeted the Canadian election.

00:02:25.440 That was interesting.

00:02:26.340 There were censors in Facebook in Arizona who were given a briefing book on how to censor the Canadian election.

00:02:34.060 Isn't that creepy?

00:02:34.820 But the most terrifying thing, I think his name is Ryan Hartwig, I'm going from memory, said is that you had hundreds of censors working around the clock.

00:02:45.580 I think he said they had three shifts a day, if I'm not mistaken, is that they were training the AI.

00:02:54.260 They were training the artificial intelligence.

00:02:56.940 So if you've got hundreds of censors making thousands of decisions a day.

00:03:02.180 In fact, I did the math at the time.

00:03:05.340 This one censorship factory that Facebook had in Arizona was like censoring 100,000 posts a day or something.

00:03:13.100 When you have 100,000 decisions a day and the AI is watching them, okay, this word bad, this word good, this word combination gray area.

00:03:24.100 You know, if you have 10 a day, maybe you don't, it's not clear if you have 100 a day, if you have 1,000, if you have 100,000 decisions a day or a week or a month.

00:03:36.040 You could see how smart computer programmers, and there's plenty of those in these tech companies, can teach a machine to censor.

00:03:46.860 So it's not even a human anymore.

00:03:49.580 In fact, I think that Facebook has closed down a number of their censorship factories because now it's all the AI.

00:03:56.360 And, you know, they say it's an old phrase, computer programming, garbage in, garbage out.

00:04:01.200 Have you ever heard that? 0.98

00:04:05.860 What if the rules your AI is following are garbage? 0.83

00:04:11.060 What if they're biased to begin with? 0.96

00:04:12.740 Which they sure they are.

00:04:13.540 Of course they are.

00:04:14.080 So, um, I am much more worried about corporate censorship, tech censorship, than I am about government censorship.

00:04:23.480 And I know that sounds contrary to what I've been saying these past months about the looming censorship bills by Stephen Gilboa and Justin Trudeau.

00:04:30.600 C10 that would regulate the internet.

00:04:32.380 C36 that would provide censorship of hate speech.

00:04:37.180 But at least there's a human element there.

00:04:39.800 At least there are judges or commissioners there.

00:04:42.260 At least there is some sort of a procedure there.

00:04:44.360 At least the Charter of Rights still exists there.

00:04:46.540 At least there's some court of appeal there.

00:04:48.840 At least there's some notice there.

00:04:50.780 None of the things I've just listed exist in big tech censorship.

00:04:55.060 And, um, King Zuckerberg and King Jack Dorsey, the Mad King, they're the ultimate bosses.

00:05:03.080 It scares me more.

00:05:04.120 So that's why we run that warning at the beginning of our YouTube.

00:05:08.880 Because just to let you know that we are censored by YouTube.

00:05:14.700 Speaking of which, Donald Trump announced he's suing big tech.

00:05:18.840 Do we have a clip of that?

00:05:19.860 I think we do.

00:05:23.460 Um, yeah, let's play it.

00:05:29.740 Yeah, Justin's saying, uh, is it okay to put that on YouTube?

00:05:32.820 And look at that.

00:05:33.600 Is, I mean, we're also on Rumble, SuperU.net, and Odyssey.

00:05:38.260 I love those three platforms.

00:05:40.700 But Justin just asked me in my ear, are we okay to put that on YouTube?

00:05:44.040 Isn't that crazy?

00:05:44.800 Because YouTube has so many anti-Trump rules.

00:05:47.780 And by the way, we were suspended for a week because we showed an old video that Donald

00:05:52.860 Trump did as president.

00:05:54.960 Like in, in January, I did a little video called, if big tech can censor Trump, they can censor

00:06:00.620 anyone.

00:06:01.040 That was literally the title of the video.

00:06:02.880 And as if to show me I was right, they said that was the reason they were taking our entire

00:06:11.580 channel off the air for a week.

00:06:13.040 Um, I think their excuse was because he said something about, um, the election being stolen.

00:06:23.760 So, uh, go ahead and play the clip.

00:06:26.160 Let's take a look.

00:06:26.900 Let's roll the dice.

00:06:28.020 Thank you very much, Brooke.

00:06:29.300 I appreciate that.

00:06:30.460 Thank you, everybody.

00:06:33.040 I just want to say that I stand before you this morning.

00:06:37.480 Well, I don't know if that's nature or if that's the AI or if that's YouTube saying you

00:06:51.660 won't play this clip.

00:06:53.040 We'll try and get that going.

00:06:54.500 Let's try again.

00:06:57.580 I just want to say that I stand before you this morning to announce a very important and

00:07:05.920 very beautiful, I think, development for our freedom and our freedom of speech, and that

00:07:12.100 goes to all Americans.

00:07:14.340 Today, in conjunction with the America First Policy Institute, I'm filing as the lead class

00:07:23.440 representative a major class action lawsuit against the big tech giants, including Facebook,

00:07:30.220 Google, and Twitter, as well as their CEOs, Mark Zuckerberg.

00:07:36.640 Sundar Pache and Jack Dorsey.

00:07:40.820 Three real nice guys.

00:07:44.940 We're asking the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate

00:07:51.000 halt to social media companies, illegal, shameful censorship of the American people, and that's

00:07:59.520 exactly what they are doing.

00:08:01.840 We're demanding...

00:08:01.920 You know what?

00:08:03.380 I look forward to reading the lawsuit.

00:08:05.140 I haven't had a chance to read it yet.

00:08:06.540 This announcement is very the reason I have to chuckle.

00:08:10.340 He's met Sundar Pache, the president of Google.

00:08:15.580 But that, Sundar Pache, that just made me laugh.

00:08:18.580 I don't know if he does that on purpose.

00:08:19.920 Sometimes Trump does things like that on purpose, just so they become memes, so they become memorable,

00:08:26.640 so you have a chuckle to irritate Sundar Pache.

00:08:30.640 Pache.

00:08:31.640 You see, Francais, Sundar Pache.

00:08:34.480 I have a complaint against you, Mr. Pache.

00:08:38.500 He just makes me chuckle.

00:08:40.140 I miss him.

00:08:41.420 But if you think I miss Donald Trump, there's no...

00:08:43.400 I have no lack of things to talk about, let me assure you.

00:08:47.000 You know that because they don't stop talking.

00:08:48.920 But if you think I miss talking about Donald Trump, holy mackerel, do the CNNs and the MSNBCs miss Trump?

00:08:58.700 Do they ever miss Trump?

00:09:00.120 What can they talk about now?

00:09:01.660 Because there is a lot to talk about now.

00:09:05.540 Biden, Harris, the price of gasoline in America, China, big tech issues, the pandemic, lockdowns, Fauci.

00:09:15.360 I can tell you a hundred things to think about China's moves on Taiwan.

00:09:18.920 You know, the Middle East and setbacks there.

00:09:23.860 But check this out.

00:09:24.700 CNN ratings are dramatically down since Trump left office.

00:09:28.900 The network lost nearly 50% of its target audience during primetime hours.

00:09:33.900 And that's from March.

00:09:36.280 I tell you it's fallen further.

00:09:38.640 You know who tracks this closely?

00:09:40.720 I don't know if you know how to search on Twitter.

00:09:43.700 From Colin Gregg, Glenn Greenwald, is that his last name?

00:09:48.920 The former guy with The Intercept and MSNBC, he tracks them nightly.

00:09:55.580 Greenwald, right?

00:09:56.400 Glenn Greenwald, you know who I'm talking about?

00:09:58.240 And if you just do that from Colin, Glenn Greenwald, MSNBC, and then sort by latest.

00:10:05.100 So you just showed an article, Justin.

00:10:09.160 That was a great article, very fast, showing that their ratings had fallen 50% in just two months, right?

00:10:14.640 Trump was done his presidency in January.

00:10:17.900 By March, they had fallen by 50%.

00:10:20.480 Yeah, Glenn Greenwald.

00:10:23.040 Scroll down, scroll down.

00:10:27.260 Is this sorted by?

00:10:29.360 Yeah, keep scrolling a bit, a little bit.

00:10:35.680 Keep scrolling, we'll find it soon, because he gets into their rate.

00:10:38.340 Here we go.

00:10:40.100 So just up a little bit.

00:10:41.480 Just scroll up a tiny bit.

00:10:42.420 However shockingly tiny and minuscule you think MSN and CNN's audience size is, it's way smaller than even that.

00:10:55.340 MSNBC barely has an audience on the weekends.

00:10:59.180 I'm concerned their ratings are going to fall into negatives, which shouldn't be possible.

00:11:04.740 So can you click on that graphic there?

00:11:06.400 Let's just take a close look at that.

00:11:07.780 So this is cable news ratings, Sunday, May 23rd.

00:11:12.040 Okay, so it's still a month old.

00:11:14.600 25 to 50-year-old demographic viewers, and then total viewers.

00:11:19.100 So the number on the left is what they call the demo.

00:11:23.020 That's what advertisers want.

00:11:25.280 Advertisers, frankly, are not that interested in people in their 70s,

00:11:28.940 because they're not buying cars, they're not buying homes, they're not buying fancy vacations,

00:11:34.040 they're not buying kids' stuff, they're not buying.

00:11:35.740 Advertisers want buyers, so they call 25 to 54 the demo.

00:11:43.060 So they're highlighting, so the number on the left is the demo,

00:11:47.900 the number on the right is total viewers, which basically means seniors.

00:11:53.300 So MSNBC, that's the yellow highlighted in the middle,

00:11:57.920 the number of viewers, like take for example, prime time, 8 p.m., that's prime time.

00:12:04.780 You got less than 50,000 people in the demo watching.

00:12:09.780 A national American network.

00:12:12.000 Now you got 412,000 watching altogether.

00:12:14.540 That tells you they're seniors, which is fine.

00:12:16.980 I'm going to be a senior soon enough.

00:12:18.740 But the demo, 49,000.

00:12:21.300 Compare that to Fox, 124,000.

00:12:24.520 CNN, 78,000, quite low.

00:12:26.640 So, you know, I've stopped paying close attention to our YouTube, I think, to our YouTube stats

00:12:35.580 because we're really moving on to other platforms like Rumble, Super U, and Odyssey.

00:12:40.660 But we, just in case you're wondering, we get more viewers than that.

00:12:46.480 We're, we started in my living room six years ago.

00:12:50.100 We're in like some industrial park in outer Toronto.

00:12:55.880 You know, we're pretty homemade.

00:12:57.540 We're getting more viewers than MSNBC.

00:13:03.380 And how's that even possible?

00:13:05.560 Well, it's because, well, here's the thing.

00:13:08.800 I'm going to give away a little trade secret here.

00:13:10.740 If I was trying to give MSNBC advice on how to get viewers,

00:13:14.600 how about have the same accountability journalism, scrutiny journalism, skepticism journalism

00:13:19.460 that you deployed against Donald Trump, how about deploy that to Kamala Harris and Joe Biden?

00:13:27.480 Fact check them in the same way.

00:13:29.520 Scrutinize them in the same way.

00:13:31.080 Can you give me that, type in the Twitter, Joe Biden ice cream?

00:13:35.620 Like Joe Biden went out for ice cream.

00:13:37.100 And hey, you know, as you can tell just by looking at me, I've done that once or twice.

00:13:41.140 Is that news?

00:13:42.080 Well, you might have a photo of it to illustrate a story because it's fun.

00:13:45.180 Watching people eat ice cream for some reason is always a fun photo compared to the normal.

00:13:49.460 But you've got the president and you've got, you can put questions to him for a second.

00:13:54.760 And you're going to say, hey, man, let's talk about the ice cream.

00:13:58.380 I mean, his presidency, by many measures, is in crisis.

00:14:02.600 But you're just doing stories on how many scoops of ice cream he had.

00:14:05.360 They did stories on Donald Trump ice cream, too, if you recall.

00:14:09.520 It was a scandal that he always ordered two scoops of ice cream at dinner.

00:14:13.580 So this was not only a scandal, it was newsworthy in a negative way.

00:14:18.020 So they did do Trump ice cream series.

00:14:19.840 Do we have any Biden ice cream?

00:14:21.960 Let's just take a look.

00:14:23.560 Come on, senators.

00:14:25.660 Welcome to Movers.

00:14:26.780 How are you?

00:14:27.560 We're well.

00:14:28.040 How are you?

00:14:28.860 OK.

00:14:29.640 Do you know what you like?

00:14:30.400 Oh, my gosh.

00:14:31.240 I don't.

00:14:31.620 Do you know what you want?

00:14:32.320 I just.

00:14:32.960 We're in the cherry capital of the world.

00:14:34.800 I know that, but I'm a chocolate chip guy.

00:14:36.560 Chocolate chip.

00:14:37.500 I want a double dip waffle cone with chocolate, vanilla chocolate chip.

00:14:41.260 Vanilla chocolate chip.

00:14:42.020 We can do that.

00:14:42.540 I got two scoops.

00:14:43.760 You got two scoops and a waffle cone with a plate chocolate chip.

00:14:47.200 OK.

00:14:48.560 14.

00:14:49.760 14.58.

00:14:50.860 I'm 20.

00:14:52.160 Are you buying, Mr. President?

00:14:53.520 I am.

00:14:54.100 Last of the big spending.

00:14:55.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:14:55.740 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:14:56.540 Thank you.

00:14:57.100 I did it.

00:14:58.200 Very good.

00:14:58.940 You can't come to Traverse City without coming here.

00:15:04.760 Traverse City.

00:15:05.300 We sent a team down there in Michigan for one of Trump's last rallies of the election.

00:15:12.120 Now, I don't mind that.

00:15:13.220 That's just rolling the camera on what was said.

00:15:15.680 That was actually not really journalism.

00:15:17.420 That was just showing Trump, Biden buying ice cream.

00:15:20.480 But the news coverage.

00:15:22.580 Thank you for showing that.

00:15:23.400 That's exactly what it went.

00:15:24.060 But the news coverage flowing from that.

00:15:26.760 And there were a couple of questions that he brushed off.

00:15:30.080 If a guy goes out to get ice cream, turn the camera on and show it.

00:15:33.240 That is real journalism.

00:15:34.360 I don't have a beef with the way, I think that was NBC or CBS show that.

00:15:38.600 I don't have a beef with that.

00:15:39.680 But it was then they're commented, they're reported, they're editorialized journalism

00:15:43.240 flowing from that that was not accountability journalism.

00:15:46.960 It was just gushing about the fact that Biden bought ice cream.

00:15:51.720 He's done so few press availabilities since becoming president.

00:15:56.160 I don't know if you remember this.

00:15:57.620 It's so long ago now.

00:16:00.040 Like it's six months ago.

00:16:01.360 Trump used to have press conferences pretty much every day.

00:16:06.020 And it was not unusual for them to be an hour long.

00:16:11.840 And he was the one usually who called the reporters.

00:16:15.420 And do you remember, Justin?

00:16:16.860 He specifically called on his haters every day.

00:16:22.480 Journalists, there was a symbiosis to use a biological term.

00:16:27.340 He would call on Jim Acosta, Jim Acosta would fight with him.

00:16:32.460 They both loved it, obviously.

00:16:34.120 They both loved it.

00:16:35.760 When was the last time Joe Biden called on a hostile or challenging reporter?

00:16:39.540 And it is fair to call Jim Acosta hostile.

00:16:41.620 Yeah.

00:16:42.120 Give me some volume.

00:16:42.820 Here we go.

00:16:45.040 Well, if you don't mind, Mr. President, that this caravan was an invasion.

00:16:49.580 I consider it to be an invasion.

00:16:51.040 As you know, Mr. President, the caravan was not an invasion.

00:16:53.280 It's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with the U.S.

00:16:59.080 Thank you for telling me that I appreciate it.

00:17:00.640 Why did you characterize it as such?

00:17:04.680 Because I consider it an invasion.

00:17:06.640 You and I have a difference of opinion.

00:17:08.060 But do you think that you demonized immigrants in this election to try to keep—

00:17:12.420 I want them to come into the country, but they have to come in legally. 1.00

00:17:15.480 You know, they have to come in, Jim, through a process.

00:17:17.700 I want it to be a process.

00:17:19.360 And I want people to come in.

00:17:20.740 And we need the people.

00:17:21.600 Your campaign—

00:17:22.320 Wait, wait.

00:17:23.580 You know why we need the people, don't you?

00:17:25.340 Because we have hundreds of companies moving in.

00:17:27.720 We need the people.

00:17:28.580 But your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls and so on.

00:17:33.120 Well, that's true.

00:17:33.840 But they weren't actors.

00:17:34.840 They're not going to be doing that.

00:17:35.680 They weren't actors.

00:17:36.700 Well, no, it's true.

00:17:37.620 Do you think they were actors?

00:17:38.920 They weren't actors.

00:17:39.740 They didn't come from Hollywood.

00:17:41.500 These were people—this was an actual—you know, it happened a few days ago.

00:17:47.780 And—

00:17:48.180 They're hundreds of miles away, though.

00:17:49.540 They're hundreds and hundreds of miles away.

00:17:51.480 That's not an invasion.

00:17:52.580 Honestly, I think you should let me run the country.

00:17:55.240 You run CNN.

00:17:56.400 All right.

00:17:56.580 And if you did it well, your ratings—

00:17:58.340 Let me ask you, if I may ask one of the questions.

00:18:00.380 Mr. President, if I may ask one of the questions.

00:18:02.940 You know, I miss all of that.

00:18:07.560 How many times did it cost to come back?

00:18:09.940 I didn't count.

00:18:11.160 But it was close to ten, you know?

00:18:13.760 Like, that wasn't a question and then one short follow-up.

00:18:17.300 That was a banter.

00:18:18.980 That was a ping-pong match.

00:18:20.600 That was a back-and-forth.

00:18:22.020 That wasn't a conversation.

00:18:23.480 That was an argument, right?

00:18:25.380 Like, how many times did Acosta come back at Trump?

00:18:29.460 I didn't count.

00:18:30.680 Close to ten.

00:18:32.480 And who chose the questions?

00:18:34.820 You saw the journalists putting up there.

00:18:36.220 Trump chose the question.

00:18:37.960 Trump could have ignored Acosta his entire term.

00:18:42.580 He didn't.

00:18:43.980 Because how do you think Trump did?

00:18:45.580 Trump was freaking loving it.

00:18:48.200 I don't know if he loved it just because that's his sparring nature.

00:18:52.160 If he liked it because it was mental exercise for him.

00:18:56.520 Like, a man of power is surrounded often by yes-men or courtiers who would say,

00:19:02.520 oh, emperor, your new clothes look fascinating.

00:19:05.240 Like, maybe he just liked the combativeness of a hostile person, kept him sharp.

00:19:11.940 Wasn't he sharp, though?

00:19:13.140 Well, he had his answers quick.

00:19:16.680 He was not waiting.

00:19:20.320 He didn't have to pull out cue cards like Joe Biden.

00:19:26.920 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:19:28.060 Sorry, go ahead, Justin.

00:19:29.260 Play that clip.

00:19:29.820 Justin reminds me.

00:19:30.880 Here's how Biden rolls.

00:19:32.400 I'm happy to take questions if you have them.

00:19:34.420 He gave me a list of how to recognize.

00:19:40.320 Is Alex AP out there?

00:19:44.120 So Biden has given a list of the names of reporters he should call on.

00:19:50.400 If he were like Trump, he would call on Fox News, One American Network, Newsmax.

00:19:56.700 He would call on Breitbart.com.

00:19:59.680 He would call on rambunctious conservatives.

00:20:01.260 Not solely, but he would do that every time to be sharp.

00:20:06.100 And it's such a reminder of how focused and alert Trump was.

00:20:10.640 It's hard to believe.

00:20:13.060 I think, what's Trump?

00:20:14.380 74 and what's Biden?

00:20:15.520 78, if I'm going from memory here.

00:20:18.920 Biden looks so much older, doesn't he?

00:20:21.240 Trump looks young, vigorous, combative.

00:20:23.700 Trump would hold court for an hour.

00:20:26.880 75 and 78 are their ages.

00:20:31.960 So, yeah.

00:20:34.680 Just the frequency of press conferences with Trump, it was almost daily, if not daily.

00:20:39.680 The duration of press conferences with Trump, it was often an hour or more.

00:20:43.980 And most importantly, the quality of those press conferences.

00:20:46.680 Trump calling from his most hostile antagonists.

00:20:50.280 And letting him go 10 rounds.

00:20:55.020 Like, Jim Acosta there went again and again.

00:20:59.820 And Jim Acosta would say that was a huge win.

00:21:03.400 He held Donald Trump to greater account, more directly, than any Democrat.

00:21:08.660 Of course, Acosta is a Democrat, working for Democrats.

00:21:11.080 And Trump obviously felt like he had some reason for doing it, too.

00:21:15.680 Either just a duty to talk to the press, or he thought his base loved to see him spar with Acosta,

00:21:22.520 or for whatever reason, maybe just because he could.

00:21:25.340 We don't have that kind of accountability journalism anymore.

00:21:28.900 You can see why that made for ratings, right?

00:21:32.360 That was bloody exciting to watch, wasn't it?

00:21:35.500 That was, who wouldn't tune in?

00:21:37.560 You're an Acosta fan, you're tuning in.

00:21:39.720 You're a Trump fan, it's like an MMA fight.

00:21:42.840 It's like a big battle.

00:21:44.860 Both sides want to see a fight.

00:21:47.840 It's each side thinking they've got the better guy.

00:21:53.180 Yeah, I'd watch TV news if that was on every day.

00:21:56.780 In fact, I did watch TV news.

00:21:58.440 Would you watch Joe Biden calling on pre-scripted questions

00:22:03.380 and then answering from a cue card in his pocket?

00:22:06.840 That's why the ratings are so low.

00:22:08.820 All right, I'm going to read some chats, and then we've got some other stuff I want to get to.

00:22:16.140 On Super U, Bishop says, Donald Trump just declared war on big tech.

00:22:20.620 Yeah, you know what, though?

00:22:21.620 We're talking about the lawsuit filed.

00:22:25.240 He had four years as president where he didn't have to sue in a civil suit.

00:22:29.700 He could have passed laws, executive orders, had the Department of Justice make moves.

00:22:33.760 Why didn't he do that for four years?

00:22:35.700 I like what he's doing now, but it's hard not to think,

00:22:38.920 why did you not act for four years when you had all the levers in your hand?

00:22:45.360 Rumbles.

00:22:45.960 Frog soup.

00:22:47.620 MSM is dying with cable.

00:22:49.100 Well, I mean, what even is cable versus YouTube versus the Internet versus...

00:22:56.160 I mean, a lot of people are watching the Internet on their TVs, you know, casting or streaming or whatever.

00:23:02.820 There's a big blur between them.

00:23:05.520 Hyperchat on Odyssey from Juice Moose, parent company of CNN that's trying to sell the building in Atlanta they are housed in.

00:23:10.760 Okay, that could be for real estate reasons.

00:23:13.680 I know post-media, for a while their most valuable assets was the real estate.

00:23:18.640 Newspapers used to be in the heart of cities, prestigious buildings, when newspapers themselves were prestigious.

00:23:26.620 So it wouldn't shock me if the most valuable asset of any media company that's dying is their premium offices.

00:23:35.280 Super U, Hammerskroll, 88, MSM doesn't seem to care about ratings anymore.

00:23:44.160 Some truth to that, because they're on an ideological mission as much as any financial mission.

00:23:49.860 But they do care about ratings in the end.

00:23:54.820 Even if it's, again, not for financial reasons, because you're on a mission.

00:23:57.960 If you're on a mission, you want people to hear what you have to say.

00:24:00.800 If you're on a financial mission, you want people to hear what you have to say, because that's how you get paid.

00:24:04.360 If you're on an ideological mission, you want people to hear what you have to say, because you're trying to convert hearts and minds.

00:24:11.620 All right.

00:24:13.140 Trump suing big tech.

00:24:14.700 Check.

00:24:15.780 Sundar Poucher.

00:24:17.140 Check.

00:24:24.320 I'm just looking at my notes here.

00:24:27.080 I want to talk a little bit about the church burnings in Canada.

00:24:30.480 I don't know how many have been burned now.

00:24:35.860 I think there's a lot of vandalism.

00:24:38.500 Burning a church is harder to do.

00:24:40.360 I've never tried, obviously, but I've tried to start campfires.

00:24:43.120 It's hard.

00:24:44.440 You know?

00:24:45.320 Now, if you're in absolutely bone-dry heat waves, like rural BC,

00:24:50.720 and it's a wooden church and it's old, I can imagine that that would go up in flames pretty quick.

00:24:56.720 But if you're, like, I just think it's harder to start a fire than to throw paint on something.

00:25:04.080 But we have both hate crimes in Canada right now.

00:25:08.160 We have lots of vandalized churches.

00:25:10.500 And we have burnt churches, including some in the city.

00:25:18.420 Our own Adam Sos interviewed Father Long, whose church was attacked.

00:25:26.480 Let's take a quick look at that.

00:25:27.640 This is a used to be a rectory for the priest to live.

00:25:34.180 And this building is for the convent, for the sisters.

00:25:40.600 They had, they was in this building for many, many years.

00:25:45.700 Still smell smoke in here.

00:25:47.880 Yeah, it certainly does.

00:25:48.760 Oh, and there you can see it over there.

00:25:50.620 That's what it said.

00:25:51.180 So did they break the glass and then set a fire or the glass broke?

00:25:54.680 Yeah, so the damage there, it wouldn't cost much to fix it.

00:26:01.660 Probably the community or even some people can fix that in the future.

00:26:07.920 It was very lucky.

00:26:10.380 But after that, I spent all day on Monday to clean up the church.

00:26:16.900 Because it was all soot and black and smoke.

00:26:18.900 Yeah, because the fire crews used the fire extinguisher.

00:26:24.680 They used the fire extinguisher to flow in.

00:26:25.620 So, yeah, these are the older, for the native, the skin is important for them.

00:26:33.660 It is, the skin is a symbol of life, strength.

00:26:39.320 So, they put it there.

00:26:41.180 So, it seems that in a very real way, through this process of reconciliation, the church is not an enemy,

00:26:50.220 but it's the place where the community gathers to heal together and get through this?

00:26:55.000 Exactly.

00:26:56.020 Yeah.

00:26:56.820 Yeah.

00:26:58.080 So, who are the victims?

00:26:59.800 Again, the analogy couldn't be clearer. 0.96

00:27:01.740 It's like when Black Lives Matter riots burnt down black-owned businesses in black neighborhoods in America. 0.74

00:27:12.020 Who are you getting even with? 0.94

00:27:14.340 Who are you wreaking your vengeance on? 0.99

00:27:18.400 So, you're in a black community where black people live and you burn down a black-owned business, 1.00

00:27:24.460 punishing that black-owned businessman and depriving the black community of a business. 0.97

00:27:30.200 How is that promoting anything? 0.98

00:27:33.400 And here we have arsonists of unknown nature, torching churches.

00:27:42.620 Some churches that are aboriginal congregants, churches that minister to and cater to the aboriginal.

00:27:52.960 I mean, how are you helping anybody? 1.00

00:27:57.620 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:27:59.780 But it's not just stupid. 1.00

00:28:01.180 It's a crime. 0.99

00:28:01.640 So, in that case, it looks like there was both vandalism and attempted arsonists.

00:28:05.220 It was arson, rather.

00:28:07.420 It just didn't burn the whole thing down.

00:28:08.940 But it was arson.

00:28:12.080 If there was a hate crime wave like this, an arson wave across Canada, targeting mosques,

00:28:17.560 you would not have any place to hide from the news coverage and the political statements

00:28:24.560 and the vigils and the days of mourning and days of action and days of rage

00:28:28.600 and flags at half-mast and counter-terrorism squads and hate crime charges and somber speeches

00:28:35.400 in parliament, you would just have no end of it. 0.80

00:28:38.800 But these are Christian churches and Trudeau really doesn't give a damn.

00:28:41.620 In fact, the most shocking thing, and I did a video about this the other day.

00:28:48.660 The head of the Civil Liberties Union in British Columbia, one of the largest in the country,

00:28:52.360 actually, who's supposed to be defending freedom of religion.

00:28:58.880 Freedom of religion is actually, can you call it the Charter of Rights for a second?

00:29:03.320 It actually comes ahead of freedom of speech.

00:29:08.240 If you look at the order in Canada's Constitution, Section 2 is where our fundamental freedoms are.

00:29:14.620 So these are the ones that are most important.

00:29:17.660 That's why they're called fundamental freedoms.

00:29:19.180 They're the big ones.

00:29:20.580 They're the ones that other freedoms depend on.

00:29:23.340 And we've done this before, but let's just take two minutes to do it again.

00:29:26.860 They're in order.

00:29:29.480 They're in a logical order.

00:29:31.040 What do I mean by that?

00:29:31.780 You can't have a meaningful freedom to vote if you don't have a freedom to speak, right, in a campaign.

00:29:41.320 And you can't have a freedom to speak if you don't have a freedom to think, right?

00:29:48.300 So they're in a logical order.

00:29:51.340 And if you were the head of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association and your job is to defend fundamental freedoms,

00:29:57.800 the most important freedoms are freedom of conscience, freedom of belief, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of faith.

00:30:06.260 Then comes your freedom of speech and expression.

00:30:09.360 Then comes your freedom of association.

00:30:13.220 Then comes your freedom, that means who you hang out with.

00:30:18.000 Yeah.

00:30:18.180 So look at the order.

00:30:19.760 Do you see the order there?

00:30:23.020 Two.

00:30:23.660 Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms.

00:30:25.280 A. Freedom of conscience and religion.

00:30:29.420 B. Freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication.

00:30:35.820 So it goes in order.

00:30:37.540 Your conscience.

00:30:39.140 Your conscience allows you to have a religion.

00:30:43.380 Your religion lets you think and believe and then have an opinion and then express the opinion

00:30:49.400 and express the opinion through the press and other media.

00:30:51.840 Do you see the order?

00:30:52.640 Like, it's growing, right?

00:30:54.280 Do you see the arrow here?

00:30:56.340 Then C. Freedom of peaceful assembly.

00:30:58.320 So you can get together at a church, on a street, and freedom of association,

00:31:03.620 hang out with a political party.

00:31:05.000 You can't have a public meeting.

00:31:06.220 You can't have thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including the media.

00:31:10.600 So the reason why you put your fundamental freedoms first is because your democratic rights mean nothing without them.

00:31:16.600 They have votes in Cuba.

00:31:20.840 They have Section 3, every citizen in Canada has the right to vote in an election.

00:31:26.360 Yeah, they got that in Cuba.

00:31:27.540 They got their elections.

00:31:28.500 What are you talking about?

00:31:29.040 They got their elections.

00:31:29.720 They just don't have meaningful elections because they don't have Section 2, A, B, C, and D.

00:31:33.360 Scroll down a bit.

00:31:36.420 Let me refresh.

00:31:37.140 I'm trying to remember what number 5 is.

00:31:40.060 Okay, they'll be sitting in Parliament once every year.

00:31:42.460 Okay, yeah.

00:31:43.140 I mean, again, that's meaning mobility rights.

00:31:44.860 This is what has come under attack during the lockdowns.

00:31:47.280 Every citizen has the right to enter, remain, and leave Canada.

00:31:50.520 And to move and take up residence in every province and pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.

00:31:57.220 Again, this has been violated by interprovincial lockdowns, right?

00:32:00.600 Legal rights.

00:32:01.360 Let's scroll down here.

00:32:03.200 Life, liberty, security of the person.

00:32:04.720 The right not to be deprived of the right, accepted in accordance with principles of fundamental justice.

00:32:08.360 That means you can't just spring.

00:32:11.380 Everyone has the right to be secured against unreasonable search and seizure.

00:32:13.980 So when a cop says, show me your vaccine exemption, your mask exemption, yeah, you and what army, boss?

00:32:25.140 Because my legal rights said you need a warrant.

00:32:29.120 Number 9, everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.

00:32:32.460 Well, that was violated, too, in these COVID hotels, wasn't it?

00:32:34.900 These COVID jails at airports.

00:32:37.440 You're arbitrarily thrown in jail for three days, plus you have to pay for it.

00:32:40.780 Number 10, the right to be promptly informed of the reasons for being arrested, to have a case that's just habeas corpus, really.

00:32:50.500 Number 11, informed without a reasonable delay of the offense, tried within a reasonable time.

00:32:57.180 11B, we've got fight the fines cases that are coming up on 18 months old, and they have not been tried yet.

00:33:04.000 That's why I believe they'll be thrown out on mass.

00:33:05.700 Keep scrolling.

00:33:06.420 It's always good to read these.

00:33:07.880 I've read this 100 times.

00:33:10.780 The right to not be denied reasonable bail without just cause.

00:33:14.920 That applies to the Christian pastors, including James Coates, who was in prison for 35 days.

00:33:19.620 Really?

00:33:20.300 Really?

00:33:21.520 Is that reasonable?

00:33:24.760 Scroll down.

00:33:25.960 Number 12, the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment.

00:33:30.200 Well, we saw that in that clip I showed you on Monday of a judge saying, hey, criminal, I'm going to have you under a five-year probation unless you agree to be injected with this experimental vaccine, in which case I'll let you go after one year.

00:33:44.000 We saw that in action, didn't we?

00:33:45.500 And I'll stop there.

00:33:51.380 So that's your job description.

00:33:52.960 If you're wondering what the boss of a civil liberties association does, that's the answer, isn't it?

00:33:59.560 That's your job description.

00:34:01.340 If you didn't know what to do, you'd read this charter of rights, or just read section two, really, to ABC and D.

00:34:09.900 And now go and fight for those.

00:34:13.860 And freedom of religion is in section 2A.

00:34:18.320 Right?

00:34:19.400 Conscience, thought, belief, religion, I think that was all 2A.

00:34:25.440 Now look at what Harsha Walia actually said.

00:34:28.840 She was responding to Vice saying, two more Catholic churches have been torched.

00:34:34.360 And she says, burn it all down. 0.98

00:34:36.900 Burn it all down.

00:34:39.900 That's the state of civil liberties in Canada in 2021.

00:34:46.100 She is supposed to be defending churches.

00:34:51.840 Now you defend any church or mosque or temple or whatever, regardless of ethnicity.

00:34:57.040 But in this case, you've got indigenous churches that serve Indian people. 0.97

00:35:03.660 And she's cheering for them to be burnt down. 0.67

00:35:06.100 And why shouldn't she? 0.97

00:35:11.300 Because look at what Gerald Butts said.

00:35:14.380 Gerald Butts, as you know, Justin Trudeau's right-hand man.

00:35:18.360 Since college, those two communist globalists, since college have been buddies.

00:35:25.800 And again, this was on Twitter.

00:35:28.060 Some journalist was talking about torching churches.

00:35:31.100 And Gerald Butts, do you have that?

00:35:33.260 Gerald Butts chimes in.

00:35:36.380 Someone said, well, it's a terrible thing.

00:35:40.160 Two wrongs don't make it right.

00:35:42.900 Stop burning down churches.

00:35:44.480 So you see Terry Glavin says.

00:35:45.860 Terry says, add some Da Vinci Code vibe, humanoid, reptilian, etc.

00:35:58.800 It's just some BS and you got yourself.

00:36:00.800 It's just really weird.

00:36:02.100 So forget that first tweet.

00:36:04.140 And then Jerry Butts says, or a post-media column.

00:36:06.320 And Terry says, so Jerry, defending the burning churches is cool crowd?

00:36:12.300 And Gerald Butts says, no, Terry, it is not.

00:36:16.480 Though it may be understandable.

00:36:19.960 Hey, guys.

00:36:21.460 It's not cool to burn churches.

00:36:24.900 But it's understandable.

00:36:26.920 Really.

00:36:28.900 So you can see where Justin Trudeau gets it from.

00:36:33.660 There's no one more privileged in Canada than Gerald Butts, other than Justin Trudeau.

00:36:38.080 So they're going to say, guys, come on.

00:36:42.680 It's not cool, but it's understandable.

00:36:45.040 Could you imagine if a mosque was attacked in the same way?

00:36:52.700 And someone said, I agree, but I also understand how people could believe otherwise.

00:37:01.080 I take it that kind of behavior is common in white Congo. 1.00

00:37:04.400 Yes, Jerry.

00:37:05.140 And like, it's just like Gerald Butts just doesn't care.

00:37:07.680 Why would he care?

00:37:08.540 Let's go down a bit more.

00:37:11.320 Look, buddy.

00:37:13.500 I'm not going to break the Crash Davis rule and will ignore the personal insult.

00:37:18.440 But I was an altar boy in a small Atlantic Canadian parish in the early 1980s.

00:37:22.960 I can understand why someone would want to burn down a church, though I do not condone it.

00:37:28.000 This guy just won't stop.

00:37:30.300 He's just, and why should he?

00:37:32.280 Because there's never been any penalty to pay for anti-Christian, anti-Catholic bigotry in Canada.

00:37:38.920 Could you imagine him saying those exact same things about a mosque?

00:37:44.960 Look, I don't condone burning down the mosque, but I understand it. 1.00

00:37:48.920 It is a mosque.

00:37:50.600 Look, it's not cool.

00:37:53.820 Guys, and no one's more cool than Gerald Butts. 0.98

00:37:57.700 Guys, it's not cool to burn down a Muslim mosque. 0.98

00:38:02.300 Okay. 0.98

00:38:03.380 It's not cool, guys.

00:38:05.240 Not cool.

00:38:06.560 But it is understandable.

00:38:07.980 Can you imagine him saying that about a Muslim mosque being torched or vandalized?

00:38:13.040 And not just one.

00:38:16.500 I'm talking about 20.

00:38:19.340 Guys, it's understandable.

00:38:21.000 I understand it.

00:38:22.360 What?

00:38:22.620 What's wrong with you? 1.00

00:38:23.280 You're too stupid to understand it? 1.00

00:38:25.220 I mean, it's not cool. 1.00

00:38:27.660 And by the way, I have the right to say this because 40 years ago, I did something as an altar boy,

00:38:34.200 and I hate it.

00:38:35.560 So it's understandable. 0.95

00:38:37.360 Burn it all down.

00:38:38.780 Listen, if the right-hand man to Justin Trudeau can say it, why can't the Civil Liberties boss in B.C. say it?

00:38:46.600 This is the state we're in.

00:38:47.900 Well, let's talk to an actual Aboriginal person who actually goes to an Aboriginal church.

00:38:53.400 So not the settlers, Harsha Walia or Gerald Butts, but let's talk to an Indigenous woman

00:38:58.500 who happens to go to church, an Indigenous church, and here's what she has to say.

00:39:05.240 My name is Jessie Allen.

00:39:06.560 I'm a Sixty Scoop survivor and the daughter of a residential school survivor.

00:39:10.660 We're here basically to ask people to basically quit burning down churches.

00:39:15.260 We're concerned about the burning and defacing of churches, bringing more strife, depression,

00:39:19.500 and anxiety to those already in pain and mourning.

00:39:22.600 Former survivors of Canada's residential schools are triggered by the sight of burning

00:39:26.820 and defaced churches.

00:39:28.520 It also brings up former traumatic feelings of violence and threats to their lives.

00:39:32.320 This is also putting further division between Canada's Indigenous people and the rest of Canadian society.

00:39:37.840 Some residential school survivors have remained Catholic and now have lost their place of worship and comfort.

00:39:44.280 These hostile acts are spreading into the Anglin church.

00:39:47.320 Figures of the explorers are being destroyed, as well as street ministers in the downtown east side

00:39:51.660 have been verbally attacked, almost assaulted because they're Christians.

00:39:54.820 This is not our native way.

00:39:57.080 We do not hate people.

00:39:58.640 We do not spread hate.

00:40:00.780 We love people.

00:40:01.640 We do not destroy other people's places of religion.

00:40:05.180 We're asking for people who are setting these fires to stop now.

00:40:08.400 We understand some people believe that they're standing in solidarity with us Indigenous people

00:40:12.540 as we find more graves across Canada.

00:40:15.800 Burning down churches is not in solidarity with us Indigenous people.

00:40:18.960 As I said, we do not destroy people's places of worship.

00:40:22.940 If you want to stand in solidarity with us, greet us and mourn with us.

00:40:27.840 Stand and mourn with us in our grief as our children's bodies are being recovered.

00:40:32.480 We ask for Canada for their support during this time.

00:40:36.700 Violence begets violence.

00:40:38.600 So we're asking people who are laying churches on fires to stop.

00:40:41.800 Not every denomination in Canada was involved with the residential schools.

00:40:45.980 And so these fires are now spreading into other churches, such as, well, right now the Angolan

00:40:52.460 Church is actually being firebombed.

00:40:54.140 And yes, they were involved with the residential schools, but they also apologized.

00:40:58.920 We can see this getting much worse and worse.

00:41:01.800 And what's going to happen is if this keeps up, whoever is doing this, you're going to

00:41:07.200 wake up a very ugly, evil spirit in this country.

00:41:10.000 And it's going to spread across this country.

00:41:12.180 And it's going to destroy it.

00:41:13.560 So right now, once again, we ask people to stop burning down churches.

00:41:20.400 Who are you?

00:41:22.020 You're just some Aboriginal woman, daughter of residential school survivors. 0.94

00:41:29.360 Who are you to tell Gerald Butts that he's not understandable, that he shouldn't be so

00:41:33.980 understanding of arson?

00:41:36.080 Who are you?

00:41:37.740 What's your standing?

00:41:39.040 How dare you try and talk back to Harsha Walia, who says, burn it all down? 0.88

00:41:46.720 Who are you other than someone who actually goes to church there?

00:41:50.840 That would be like in the analogy we talked about 45 minutes ago, a black-owned business 0.90

00:41:56.600 in a black part of town saying, hey, please stop burning my shop.

00:42:00.580 And some white liberal saying, it's understandable, though. 0.97

00:42:05.240 You know, it's not cool.

00:42:06.640 But guys, I understand it.

00:42:12.080 Yeah.

00:42:13.580 Pretty bad.

00:42:14.380 I want to, we only have about 15 minutes left.

00:42:20.400 I want to talk a couple of things about lockdowns.

00:42:24.560 Can you go to Google and just type in Alice Springs?

00:42:29.920 It's a town in Australia.

00:42:31.120 Just show me where it is.

00:42:32.400 I think it's in the middle of the country.

00:42:34.660 I've never been there.

00:42:35.600 I've been to Australia before, but I haven't been to Alice Springs.

00:42:37.840 I think it's pretty much right in the middle of the country, in the outback.

00:42:44.020 That's my guess.

00:42:46.820 And then really pull out.

00:42:48.580 Like, I just want to see where this is in the country.

00:42:51.200 Am I right when I say it's in the middle of the country?

00:42:56.260 It's like dead center in the country.

00:42:58.160 I was right.

00:42:59.760 That's Alice Springs.

00:43:02.120 It's almost, maybe it is geometrically in the middle of the country.

00:43:05.740 You can't get more center than that.

00:43:08.640 That's the outback.

00:43:10.420 It's, I think it's bigger than the Sahara Desert.

00:43:13.520 I don't know if it's bigger, but it's, like, it is huge.

00:43:17.960 And I don't know if it's because it's sort of isolated.

00:43:22.440 There's not a ton of, like, like, people live on the coast there.

00:43:25.340 You got your Sydney on the coast.

00:43:27.680 You got, like, right in the heart of the country.

00:43:30.720 It's not very populated.

00:43:32.400 Not a lot of people from Sydney are going to go to Alice Springs.

00:43:35.600 It would be like Inovic in Canada.

00:43:38.340 And I think probably to do with the climate there also, I, if I'm not mistaken, there has not been a single case of coronavirus in Alice Springs.

00:43:53.200 I think there, I think there hasn't been one case.

00:43:56.740 Can you believe that?

00:43:57.940 Like, not even a case.

00:43:58.820 I'm not talking about a death or a hospitalization.

00:44:01.340 I just think no one there ever got it.

00:44:03.040 Or if they got it, they didn't even know.

00:44:05.040 Because a lot of people who get coronavirus, it's not serious.

00:44:12.560 Sometimes they don't even know.

00:44:13.500 Remember that PGA guy?

00:44:15.180 That golfer who was winning a game.

00:44:17.780 And they came up to him, tap, tap, tap.

00:44:19.280 Hey, boss, you got the Rona.

00:44:20.680 You got to get off the course now.

00:44:23.180 So I want to show you a little bit of Avi Amini's video.

00:44:26.500 So there's this guy in Alice Springs.

00:44:32.200 And he's drinking a to-go cup of coffee, right?

00:44:36.360 So you can't drink coffee with a mask on, right?

00:44:40.420 And literally there is no place in the world where you have to wear a mask when you're drinking coffee, right?

00:44:46.600 Like, you know that, right?

00:44:49.540 Apparently the cops in Alice Springs don't know that.

00:44:52.380 Take a look at this.

00:44:56.500 So, I'm just drinking my coffee.

00:45:00.940 And these officers have started following me.

00:45:07.480 And harassing me.

00:45:16.820 What's your name and badge, mate?

00:45:19.620 Aboriginal Community Police Officer Liam Presley.

00:45:22.200 Yep.

00:45:22.760 7415.

00:45:24.220 What's your name?

00:45:25.380 Which one?

00:45:25.760 What's your name and badge number?

00:45:27.080 What's your name?

00:45:28.140 I don't have to-

00:45:28.860 You're a peace officer.

00:45:30.620 You're a servant of the people.

00:45:33.740 I'm not being rude here.

00:45:35.180 I'm not risking anything.

00:45:36.660 Okay, listen.

00:45:37.480 I need you to listen to me.

00:45:38.540 Okay.

00:45:39.000 Okay, so there's a pandemic going on.

00:45:42.300 This is a very vulnerable community.

00:45:44.320 There's lots of sick people.

00:45:45.780 I need you to provide your name and you will reason for it.

00:45:48.420 I do not have to provide my name because I have not committed a defense.

00:45:54.380 So, so you are committing an offense.

00:45:56.160 I have not committed a defense.

00:45:57.740 I need you to wear a mask.

00:46:00.000 I'm drinking a coffee.

00:46:02.680 I do not have to wear a mask while I'm drinking a coffee.

00:46:05.640 Okay, listen.

00:46:06.980 Thank you.

00:46:07.520 Okay, if you do not provide your name and a mask, you will be arrested, all right?

00:46:15.300 You're threatening me.

00:46:17.840 Oh, don't be arrested.

00:46:18.580 I'm being assaulted by three officers.

00:46:39.360 I was drinking a coffee.

00:46:42.740 I'm allowed to drink a coffee.

00:46:45.320 I'm being assaulted by three officers.

00:46:47.980 What's your name?

00:46:49.380 My name's Hayden Williams.

00:46:51.040 Thanks, Hayden.

00:46:51.460 And I was basically pushed into the back of the paddy wagon and they drove me to the watch

00:46:56.460 house and locked me up.

00:46:57.660 How long were you locked up for?

00:47:00.020 About 20, 25 minutes.

00:47:01.960 And you were released, but you were released with a fine.

00:47:07.380 Is that right?

00:47:08.920 Yes, I was.

00:47:09.820 Yeah, it was a $5,000 fine for not wearing a mask during a lockdown.

00:47:15.000 They just gave me a piece of card and just wrote a number on it and $5,050.

00:47:22.280 Can you afford that $5,000 charge?

00:47:25.200 Absolutely not.

00:47:26.100 I'm a freelance artist and my work was shut down due to lockdown.

00:47:32.340 So yeah, basically I've got no income and plus they're trying to fine me $5,000.

00:47:38.520 Well, mate, don't worry about it.

00:47:40.860 You don't have to pay that $5,000 right now.

00:47:43.540 We're not going to pay it either.

00:47:44.920 We're going to crowdfund and fight it.

00:47:46.580 The community is going to get behind you.

00:47:48.000 People are going to donate at fightthefines.com.au.

00:47:50.200 I'm going to pay for the lawyers that are already on the case.

00:47:52.260 Over the weekend, we started the process.

00:47:55.240 You're actually going up bush today.

00:47:57.920 So they'll be working while you're away to either have this matter dropped or we're going

00:48:05.460 to fight this all the way with the help of the community around Australia and around the

00:48:10.460 world.

00:48:11.900 What would you like to say to everyone that's going to donate to help make sure that this

00:48:16.420 is corrected sooner rather than later?

00:48:20.100 Yeah, I just wanted to say, yeah, I really appreciate your help.

00:48:23.820 I'm grateful for your support.

00:48:26.540 And let's stand up together.

00:48:29.080 Let's stand up against the tyranny that's taking place.

00:48:32.580 He was issued an over $5,000 fine for what is clear.

00:48:38.640 You can see the video.

00:48:39.740 Everyone's seen the video now.

00:48:41.200 He's drinking coffee.

00:48:42.440 The implications to me is far reaching.

00:48:45.280 That means that if you're outside and you're having a sip of your water, you can be slapped

00:48:51.340 with a, well, taken down, arrested, and then slapped with a $5,000 fine.

00:48:58.880 It's crazy.

00:49:00.200 It certainly is.

00:49:01.240 I mean, the implication is that it's not a reasonable excuse for you to be drinking anything

00:49:04.680 outside at the moment under these lockdown conditions.

00:49:07.140 Even if you were in the course of essential exercise or shopping or anything like that,

00:49:11.600 potentially you could be slapped with a fine of $5,056 under the Northern Territory directions

00:49:17.760 for these sort of Public Health Act violations.

00:49:22.520 Now, if that's the implication, it means that you couldn't drink water, you can't drink coffee,

00:49:26.160 you can't drink juice, you can't drink anything else.

00:49:28.020 The police could come and just snatch you off the street for that purpose, give you a fine,

00:49:31.980 and then direct you to go straight back home.

00:49:34.740 Now, the absurdity of that is obviously inherent.

00:49:38.220 It doesn't make a great deal of sense.

00:49:41.100 You know, there's not a, I can't see any scientific reason why they would be doing that.

00:49:46.680 And legally, it's just a waste of police resources.

00:49:49.540 Why are they snatching people who are drinking coffees,

00:49:52.120 who are actually doing a service to the community by going out and supporting their local businesses

00:49:56.780 at a time of lockdown?

00:49:58.740 You know, why would the police be going and snatching those people?

00:50:01.180 It's just another absurdity of lockdown.

00:50:03.700 Well, we know we have you guys on the case, and so quickly, so Hayden is in good hands.

00:50:09.360 We want to thank you on behalf of everyone that's going to contribute to paying these legal fees.

00:50:13.500 Thank you so much, again, for everything you do, and in this case,

00:50:17.520 specifically for fighting for Hayden, and for all those around the country

00:50:21.740 who dare drink coffee during lockdown.

00:50:25.200 You know, we're taking Hayden's instructions.

00:50:27.500 We're hoping to have this matter taken care of very quickly by the Northern Territory Police.

00:50:32.120 We believe this is a very straightforward matter.

00:50:35.120 We don't think that this should be too problematic.

00:50:37.280 We think that they've overstepped it on this one and that they've been too overzealous.

00:50:40.880 Our hope is that we can get this sorted out for Hayden very quickly,

00:50:43.440 and we're really grateful, obviously, for the fight-to-find sort of community

00:50:47.980 helping us to be able to actually do this for people like Hayden,

00:50:51.440 who are being victimised in a very senseless manner in these sorts of times.

00:50:56.440 We agree with you.

00:50:57.460 We hope it is turned around really quickly and justice is served immediately.

00:51:03.320 But even if it isn't, just like all the fight-to-find cases that we have,

00:51:06.880 I know that the fight-to-find community that you speak of will be happy to ensure

00:51:13.300 that this is seen all the way through.

00:51:15.060 So thank you again, Cameron.

00:51:16.900 It's my pleasure as always, Avi.

00:51:21.660 A lot to say about that.

00:51:23.060 First of all, those are pretty...

00:51:26.060 How many cops were there, four or five?

00:51:28.120 And they seemed like they were ready to take on a gang or something.

00:51:31.640 I think they were wearing bulletproof vests.

00:51:33.700 Like, I wouldn't say they were armed like SWAT,

00:51:35.800 but that was some heavy policing there.

00:51:38.240 And Hayden was just like, I don't think he was doing anything.

00:51:41.480 Like, it looked like they were stalking him for a while.

00:51:43.420 I think, right?

00:51:45.640 Like, they were following him around.

00:51:47.960 And, I mean, sometimes the people we see,

00:51:51.360 they're provocateurs, you know, they're protesters.

00:51:55.660 They're pushy or whatever.

00:51:58.620 This guy, I think this guy was just walking with his coffee. 1.00

00:52:01.640 And I just think this is so stupid. 1.00

00:52:10.100 Now, you're right, Justin. 1.00

00:52:12.000 Justin mentioned in my ear that there have been a few cases

00:52:14.980 in the Northern Territory, which is this vast area.

00:52:18.600 But it's absurd.

00:52:21.000 And there's nothing scientific about it.

00:52:22.780 And I've seen that Cameron lawyer before.

00:52:28.640 He was the lawyer for that Australian woman who was on the train,

00:52:32.540 having exemption.

00:52:33.620 The cops didn't know what to do.

00:52:34.660 They panicked, grabbed her bag, took her bag off the train,

00:52:38.060 which forced the woman to get, like, just crazy. 1.00

00:52:40.280 Same lawyer.

00:52:41.020 He knows his stuff.

00:52:41.840 I would just say to our Australian viewers,

00:52:45.140 what Cameron said in the last video is,

00:52:47.800 if a cop asks you your name,

00:52:49.340 you actually have to tell him your name.

00:52:52.660 That's a rule in Australia, apparently.

00:52:54.460 Now, they have to warn you that not saying the name is an offense.

00:52:57.660 But that's what I learned from Cameron last time.

00:53:00.900 But that, so if a cop says, what's your name?

00:53:04.620 You don't have to immediately say it.

00:53:06.660 But if it's an offense not to answer, you do have to say your name.

00:53:10.640 You don't have to show an ID.

00:53:11.680 You have to say your name and address.

00:53:13.100 And that's just an Australian rule from what Cameron says.

00:53:16.420 But that doesn't excuse anything that the cops did before and after him,

00:53:19.720 including that lady cop not saying her name. 0.67

00:53:22.680 And the absurd arrest.

00:53:24.100 And I don't think, that card, what's that?

00:53:25.980 Like, it looked like a little, you know, gift certificate for,

00:53:28.900 oh, sorry, we were out of muffins today.

00:53:31.040 Come back for a free muffin or something.

00:53:32.720 Like, that little card, it's just like, it's so goofy.

00:53:37.740 I am certain that we're going to win that case.

00:53:40.380 Avi is so good at these cases.

00:53:44.500 And that law firm, Cameron and his partner, Manny, they are so good.

00:53:50.540 I mean, we have a lot of great lawyers.

00:53:52.100 But in Australia, I think we have a perfect record down there.

00:53:56.160 They're just doing such a great job. 1.00

00:53:58.580 Anyways, I'm just very pleased that we're helping that guy because it's so stupid. 0.98

00:54:05.040 And when that video was playing, I was just Googling the Northern Territory. 0.97

00:54:08.720 It's a huge area.

00:54:09.980 It's like, well, I think in some ways it's comparable to our Northwest Territories.

00:54:15.380 It's just so large and such a small population.

00:54:19.440 Yeah.

00:54:21.840 You know, it's a very big country.

00:54:24.920 I flew from Sydney to Melbourne.

00:54:28.940 Like, that's not a, like, it's, and by the way, sometimes people think,

00:54:33.300 oh, Australia, New Zealand, super close.

00:54:35.280 That's hours of flying.

00:54:36.920 Like, zoom out for a bit.

00:54:38.820 Like, it is such, like, that is, like, you think, okay, Australia, New Zealand's right there.

00:54:43.580 It's not right there.

00:54:45.700 It's like that.

00:54:46.780 It, it looks that way because there's nothing else.

00:54:50.280 But flying from Sydney, which is on the East Coast, to New Zealand.

00:54:56.500 I'm just Googling that right now.

00:55:01.300 How long is the flight from Sydney to New Zealand?

00:55:03.780 It's three hours.

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