Rebel News Podcast - DAILY ｜ Judge reveals Deena Hinshaw's secrets; Pro-life⧸pro-choice protesters face off in Alberta

00:00:00.000 oh good afternoon good morning everybody and welcome to the rebel news daily live stream

00:00:19.320 i'm your host today sheila gunreed i host on mondays with my friend based in calgary adam

00:00:24.720 so adam how's it going it's going wonderful how are you oh i'm doing great i'm not sure if it's

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00:02:34.040 so we appreciate that and thank you very much um adam what's the first thing we want to talk about

00:02:40.520 do we want to get into this dina hinshaw thing right off the bat i think that's a pretty big story

00:02:45.240 i think it's a huge story so a little while back i was actually live tweeting this court case um

00:02:53.720 alberta's medical officer of health chief medical officer of health dina hinshaw she's our chief

00:02:59.000 necromancer she uses the dead to control the living that's why i call them necromancers um

00:03:05.060 a while back i was watching a court case it's the ingram court case for those of you who always hear

00:03:11.760 like oh we're not going to make a decision on this court case until the uh decision is made on the

00:03:16.620 ingram court case this is it so it was um in a in a court case i'll just read this for you from

00:03:25.740 cbc unfortunately i see a calgary judge has made public alberta's chief medical officer of health

00:03:34.240 dina hinshaw's responses to three questions she answered in a private hearing about a confidential

00:03:40.260 cabinet discussion so the questions are for a case started by a group of albertans who launched a

00:03:46.080 court challenge seeking to have covet 19 public health orders ruled unconstitutional court of

00:03:51.180 queen's bench justice barbara romaine issued a decision at the end of april stating the public

00:03:57.300 interest in disclosing dr hinshaw's answers to the questions posed by the court outweighs the public

00:04:03.040 interest in keeping the evidence confidential so lawyers for the alberta government had objected and

00:04:08.760 produced a document from sonia savage then the justice minister stating discussions between

00:04:14.500 hinshaw and cabinet must be kept confidential ultimately it was decided that hinshaw would answer

00:04:20.600 three questions in a private hearing so the judge could decide whether to make the answers to those

00:04:26.440 questions public and part of the hearing evidence so they the lawyers posed the questions then they

00:04:32.640 argued about whether or not these things are captured under advice to cabinet because these discussions are

00:04:38.280 normally private um and the judge said okay well i'll take you to chambers we're going to ask you

00:04:46.460 these questions and then i'll decide but let's get the the answers from you so the questions were

00:04:52.120 did the premier and cabinet ever direct you to impose severe restrictions more severe restrictions in

00:05:01.600 your orders than you had recommended to them so basically were the premier and cabinet members

00:05:08.740 asking for harsher things than what were being ordered by dr hinshaw did cabinet ever direct you to impose

00:05:17.700 more severe restrictions on particular groups such as churches gyms schools small businesses than you had

00:05:26.840 recommended to them did you ever recommend to cabinet that restrictions should be lifted or loosened at any

00:05:34.900 period of time and that recommendation was refused or ignored by cabinet on friday romaine confirmed that

00:05:42.500 hinshaw's answer to all three questions was no so at the end of the day this doesn't really let the

00:05:50.440 government off the hook because hinshaw works for the government so basically this says that the province

00:05:58.420 didn't ask for harsher restrictions fine but they adopted the harsh restrictions that hinshaw asked for

00:06:06.900 that so they can't really pass the buck here the i think they the idea is to try to pass the buck but

00:06:13.980 they didn't have to do anything that hinshaw told them to do they could have said yeah we appreciate that

00:06:18.980 but we do have these things called charter rights that we can't do all these other things that you want us to

00:06:23.560 do she gave them recommendations and they just adopted them and so while she didn't say uh be

00:06:32.820 harder on the churches i don't know how she could have been harsher on the churches except if she had

00:06:37.440 closed them completely all together and we know she did that in some cases yeah well the other thing that

00:06:42.920 would have been incredibly interesting i wish very much there would have been a fourth question about

00:06:45.980 whether the government had in any way shaped or form sort of petitioned or engaged in dialogue the

00:06:52.180 other way on behalf of small businesses on behalf of these people yeah yeah was there any pushback

00:06:57.140 what was that conversation like because very much i think the reason we're getting these questions

00:07:01.120 publicly is they think that it makes it seem as though the government was just following orders

00:07:06.060 um while the government was implementing the orders not following uh the orders and these are very

00:07:10.960 much recommendations but i think that is the core question um that's very much at the crux of this this

00:07:16.260 um it doesn't mean as much as it should i think there were more important questions to be asked

00:07:20.540 it's unfortunate that those questions weren't asked maybe they were and they weren't made public

00:07:24.580 um but uh yeah or they will yeah now after watching this at least um but yeah hopefully like maybe there

00:07:31.820 are more questions to be asked now that we know these answers because these prompt now additional

00:07:37.680 answer additional questions like you say did the government push back when you recommended

00:07:42.780 this did the government just adopt it as a blanket or did they actually push back um i think those are

00:07:51.340 the next questions and the other question here is like okay sure so uh the the cabinet ever direct

00:07:57.420 you to impose more severe restrictions on particular groups so then that that alleviates it doesn't but

00:08:04.000 let's say it alleviates in their mindset the government's responsibility for hammering down pastors and

00:08:08.560 leaving everyone on small businesses leaving everyone else alone well then who in alberta

00:08:13.560 health services is it just dina hinshaw who was selectively enforcing against these people

00:08:17.660 because ultimately whether it was an overt instruction from the top down or they're just

00:08:22.640 underlying all of alberta health services they're underlying bigots against christians and target them

00:08:27.560 on some subconscious level what what is the there has to be some source for the fact that

00:08:32.920 there's an overwhelming statistical anomaly here where only certain groups were targeted

00:08:38.340 only certain groups received enforcement um where is that coming from this doesn't alleviate that

00:08:44.180 uh maybe the government the cabinet is breathing easy because they feel it alleviates them but then

00:08:49.540 what's going on with alberta health services who within that structure is directing this i asked

00:08:53.840 tyler shandra himself if he had directed this and he made clear now i'm i'm just repeating his words

00:08:59.240 i'm not saying that i believe them necessarily but he stipulated very clearly that at no point did he

00:09:04.120 or the government's direct um targeted sort of enforcement against these communities so where

00:09:09.420 did that come from yeah and so what so the premier and the health minister can just sort of wash their

00:09:17.060 hands of it the way doug ford says well i'm just a politician i'm listening to the doctors well no you're

00:09:23.540 just a politician you're supposed to listen to the people who elected you and sort of balance that

00:09:27.400 against public safety um go ahead and just on on the sort of competence spectrum um to on behalf of

00:09:36.940 the necromancers like dina hinshaw her job was pretty much to um and i mean i i think she failed

00:09:43.000 in considering the sort of mental health implications which would fall under her purview broadly speaking

00:09:47.940 but her her job to an extent was to suggest the most um extensive measures by which we could reduce the

00:09:56.200 risk of spread and save lives and then the government should take those considerations into account and

00:10:01.020 say oh well this thing is devastating to the economy and there's broader spending implications i think

00:10:05.960 that's what was missed because i think in a fear of accountability and i feel a fear of culpability

00:10:11.260 should this have been worse than it was um they just jumped on everything they didn't want to

00:10:16.500 take other considerations into effect and we've seen uh the impacts of these other considerations

00:10:21.720 um whether that be inflation whether that be mental health whether that be the laundry list goes on of

00:10:27.780 the negative outcomes um even job like shortages because of some of these uh things that were

00:10:32.680 implemented there all these companies are cutting uh services um we're seeing like deliveries not

00:10:38.740 being made and allegedly it's because of staff shortages all of these problems stemming from these

00:10:43.680 sort of metrics that were brought in by the government uh whether dina hinshaw recommended them or not

00:10:48.220 ultimately she's not the elected official they are so they're accountable well and sorry i i'm probably

00:10:55.600 putting olivia on the spot here but i think you can find it in ctv calgary i'm trying to cut and paste

00:11:01.820 it but my computer's not cooperating um alberta did see significant increases in excess deaths during

00:11:08.100 the pandemic especially amongst young people um the report was published in the international journal

00:11:14.380 of infectious diseases and compared the period of january 2020 to may 2021 to previous years to

00:11:20.940 determine excess mortality and the report found that deaths in alberta increased by 11 during the 17

00:11:27.800 months that were studied and it's significantly higher in the younger age group so these are not

00:11:37.020 people who were dying of covid or affected by covid whatsoever these are opioid deaths these are suicides

00:11:42.560 these are deaths of despair these are uh the these are the lockdown deaths these are not the covid deaths

00:11:50.300 these are the response to the covid deaths and that should have been a consideration for the alberta

00:11:57.660 government and i'm not sure it was except insofar that they thought that watching the bachelor would

00:12:02.160 cheer us all up yeah yeah no well i guess there's that article as well there was another one so that

00:12:09.140 article talked about uh their overall increased death rate and even within that like a significant

00:12:14.860 percentage was not covid19 related there wasn't covid19 contribution there was a slight uptick in the last

00:12:21.200 year as a result of that compared to the norm um but there was another article as well that just got

00:12:26.060 into those additional causes um beyond the excess rate caused by um uh sort of additional factors but

00:12:32.980 yeah we've seen mental health problems we've seen this and there's like an unwillingness to

00:12:36.660 acknowledge or address it um and it's extremely unfortunate um in order to make sort of evidence

00:12:41.620 based policy and evidence based decision you need to be willing to look at the facts not just the facts

00:12:46.480 that align with your lockdown decisions or whatever it may be so um certainly i think the ball was missed

00:12:52.420 on that broader sort of uh consideration of people's well-being the sort of holistic approach that

00:12:58.060 that a government should take in these uh in these times not jumping to the most extreme measure

00:13:02.740 without consideration for anything else um the sad thing is is very much the there was a almost a

00:13:07.560 delayed response um in in addressing this in some of these extremely vulnerable communities

00:13:12.320 um which would have saved far more lives um and then there was a sort of over uh abundant or

00:13:18.580 overbearing response as a consequence afterwards um based on the sort of shortcomings of the the

00:13:24.580 earlier incident so we're kind of tiptoeing around it here but uh yeah very very interesting uh it one

00:13:29.900 thing that is encouraging with this though um and it goes along with some of the things that we've

00:13:34.980 been seeing lately um first off i'd suggest lots of this started um with pastor arthur pawlowski being

00:13:41.160 the the appeal process on bail being granted bail um and some sort of waxing on conditions for him

00:13:47.860 and then the charges against pastor tim stevens dropped uh pastor derrick reimer was arrested

00:13:52.680 immediately released um and we're seeing judges now saying in the interest of transparency we need to

00:13:58.060 reveal this to the public um i think the courts are maybe like oh maybe because i think even within

00:14:03.560 the courts even talking to sort of mainstream uh lawyers um judges who are their acquaintances um

00:14:09.900 there was sort of a sentiment broadly that these people really were the bad guys i think the courts

00:14:15.420 are sort of having that sober second thought and slowing down and saying oh hold on a second our job is

00:14:20.940 actually to apply the law here um and then and then obviously the uh injunction challenge victory

00:14:26.160 that we had as well protest lawsuit.com check that out um and then obviously most recently and i'm

00:14:32.060 going to be talking to an exceptional lawyer from the justice center for constitutional freedoms today

00:14:36.380 we also saw that uh the the important court ruling from the alberta courts that uh the cmoh health

00:14:43.360 order from december 2020 to january 2021 did not apply to protests that could be precedent setting for

00:14:50.900 the broader conversation on whether these uh any tickets handed out underneath these orders for

00:14:57.440 protests were valid so the the courts seem to be flipping uh pretty significantly on a number of

00:15:03.960 these issues lots of this could be the optics of it takes a long time for courts to actually get out

00:15:08.760 there but we did see some pretty egregious stuff with compelled speech mandates ticketing

00:15:13.620 incarcerations um now it seems that hopefully the tide is turning anyways so happy to see some judges

00:15:20.000 uh operating by the rule of law and in the name of transparency for a change sorry can you tell me

00:15:26.400 what were the dates that the that injunction applied to uh so that it was the the health order issued

00:15:35.160 um i don't have the dates off the top of my head but it was december 2020 i don't have the date in

00:15:41.180 december until january 2021 so it's a two-month window um and the language within that it says i believe

00:15:49.740 the language the the point of contention was private social gathering um and the judge said

00:15:54.780 well clearly a protest is not a private social gathering so this doesn't apply um i'll confirm

00:16:00.460 today with hatim i think it's hatim from the justice center for constitutional freedoms um the details

00:16:04.660 but sarah miller was saying that potentially uh further iterations of that order so not necessarily

00:16:11.200 the one within that window but if they include those same terms the private social gatherings

00:16:15.840 um so for example someone who had a party at their house they'd still be subject to their ticket or a

00:16:21.540 gathering at their house or whatever but someone clearly having an organized protest there is a

00:16:25.720 potential that we see quite a few tickets being thrown out after the fact and for many of these

00:16:30.820 um gatherings for which uh some of these pastors were ticketed um it'll be interesting to see how

00:16:36.560 that applies um if the same argument for uh pro freedom to protest will apply to religious

00:16:43.840 freedoms because a church gathering is not a social gathering that's not a reasonable it's not a

00:16:47.740 private social gathering it's a faith or a worship gathering so a lot of sort of interesting

00:16:52.160 conversations are going to be generated by that decision certainly um maybe not binding precedent but

00:16:58.140 precedent that judges will be looking back to um because it's kind of the first ruling that addresses

00:17:02.760 that directly very much looking forward to that conversation today and uh the exceptional work the

00:17:07.220 just center for constitutional freedoms is doing um very much along uh lines with the democracy fund

00:17:12.040 fighting these fights when many of the civil liberties organizations have simply uh uh taken a

00:17:17.100 break even they're getting on board though we know uh the civil liberties association uh

00:17:21.440 has actually got finally they've gotten they've gotten on board on some of the chris scott pastor

00:17:26.060 ardupovleski compelled speech stuff um so they're starting to get on board but uh lots of people i'm

00:17:31.820 talking to are saying they're they're they're guarded after two years of what we've been through but

00:17:35.900 they're optimistic that uh hopefully there's some uh some transparency and uh some justice being

00:17:42.800 dished out by judges for a change yeah it's very curious because i'd like to see what this means for

00:17:48.500 somebody like chris scott who was arrested for having a protest albeit in may of 2021 spent quite a

00:17:56.800 few days in jail three days in jail and then serious sanctions after the fact um going back to that

00:18:02.360 thing about the excess deaths i was poking down in the in the study and it says that

00:18:07.280 drug poisoning deaths yeah attributed to 18 of the increase in mortality with people between the ages of

00:18:15.340 25 and 60 and they also say deferral of care is likely a significant factor in any increase in deaths

00:18:25.440 beyond what has already been reported as visits to health care providers dropped sharply especially during

00:18:30.860 the pandemic including family physicians and emergency departments this happened in my own family

00:18:35.320 um couldn't get in to see a doctor your minor surgery that got canceled because they wanted to

00:18:42.220 keep the hospitals empty all of a sudden turns into a fatal complication and uh that i mean that's what

00:18:50.560 happened that's dina hinshaw and jason kenney's lockdowns that's what happened to albertans

00:18:56.640 okie doke let's keep moving along what else is what's in the headline of the youtube description

00:19:03.980 here i would like to get those out of the way because i get emails um a pro-life face-off yes this

00:19:13.860 is um once again you i i don't know are we going to cover your pro-life video from the weekend yeah i mean

00:19:22.600 it's it's it's coming out soon so i don't know what we've got from it but we can uh talk about it

00:19:27.800 so thursday i mean we we had people all across the country on different days for march for life

00:19:32.400 i think cat and nat were out dave menzies was out uh i don't know i think did drea go out as well

00:19:37.620 um yes we had we had people at all the march for life so i think they were on different days right

00:19:42.160 some were saturday friday all over the place um i was in edmonton we were in uh edmonton obviously for

00:19:47.220 the leadership debates which we've talked about at length but uh a bit of a flop there certainly

00:19:51.840 um but then on thursday we had i was out with sid and saline um we uh we were in edmonton so we

00:19:57.040 figured heck we'll uh swing by check out the march for life uh speak to some people there um get the

00:20:02.220 vibe see if there's any counter protests obviously with the leaked document the united states supreme

00:20:07.180 court uh majority opinion uh basically that potentially was leaked that was leaked and potentially

00:20:13.040 would overturn roe v wade and effectively for those who don't know that wouldn't ban or abolish

00:20:18.720 abortion in the united states it would effectively allow uh legislation to return to elected representatives

00:20:23.460 on a state by state level so if a state was overwhelmingly pro-life you know a democracy

00:20:29.300 the state could have pro-life laws shocking that that may be um so that that sort of stirred up and

00:20:36.200 riled up uh some conversation even though it isn't binding here in canada i think most people say

00:20:40.480 roe v wade don't really know what it is um we thought there might be a pretty significant turnout

00:20:44.920 um so on thursday we were at march for life in edmonton and i want to talk about the sort of

00:20:49.100 pro-life uh pro abortion whatever that conversation would be in a second but one thing that i noticed

00:20:54.620 here and it we're just because we're talking about some of the implications of this covet 19 thing

00:20:58.800 um it is it was the smallest march for life i've ever seen um it was hundreds of people normally it

00:21:05.320 is thousands um it was the one little subsection up at the front in front of legislature only one of the

00:21:12.280 little sort of corridors was open um here we see some of the counter protesters one thing that i

00:21:17.800 find absolutely shocking and i think this is probably the cause i was trying to muse over why

00:21:22.040 is there so small you and i yeah have been to these things together just both as journalists but also as

00:21:30.680 uh pro-life albertans um and i know why and it's really sad okay it's really sad so the majority of

00:21:40.460 churches catholic as we can attest to and otherwise uh when covet 19 rolled out they pretty much

00:21:46.880 completely went along with everything after that people when they needed their church the group most

00:21:53.120 when they need their youth group the most when they needed their community the most uh the community

00:21:57.260 said well this doesn't really matter um we're shutting down we we've seen the other churches the

00:22:02.220 church of pastor tim stevens pastor arthur paulowski everything quadruple they're all getting new

00:22:05.560 buildings they can't fit their people in because they're like no we believe in to cite pastor

00:22:09.820 tim stevens and the primacy of christ um so the churches this event was massively catholic

00:22:15.260 traditionally um people would come out in droves my original thought when i got there was oh people

00:22:20.600 are protested out there's been a lot of protests going on i really don't think it's that i think it's

00:22:25.040 that these people have not got back in the pews since covet 19 and i'm gonna put my minister hat

00:22:30.360 i'm gonna put on my minister hat for a second here um not that i'm a minister but um this is what the

00:22:36.580 globalists want don't do it they literally shut down your churches and and push the officials in

00:22:43.600 charge of the churches to make you believe that church doesn't matter to make you believe that this

00:22:49.480 is secondary or you can just pray at home or you don't actually have to gather they undermined what

00:22:55.960 church was and and church officials allowed it to happen people have not returned back and we saw that

00:23:01.480 this was representative like more than from what i'm hearing it's like half the people never went

00:23:05.960 back to church afterwards pews are empty uh places are cutting worship cutting mass cutting service

00:23:10.760 whatever it may be um march for life on thursday was a reflection of the successful campaign to sort

00:23:17.400 of undermine and it's as much a successful campaign as it is a failing on the part of church leaders

00:23:22.580 to advocate for their people to be there for their people and in a time where we saw mental health

00:23:27.660 crises we saw um loss to covet 19 as well but to other illnesses whatever it may be um the church

00:23:34.660 was not there for people they didn't fight for people to be able to have decent funerals while

00:23:39.040 people were packed into airplanes like cart sardine cans um they weren't there they weren't going to bat

00:23:44.160 they kind of felt faded um so the people that were there very much were those people who are going

00:23:49.180 to be there the advocates the fighters the the people who who are in this and here to stay um

00:23:55.580 radzinger sort of talked about the time where the church becomes very small and solidified well

00:24:02.180 those people whatever their sort of denominations not necessarily to say they're christian but

00:24:06.140 whatever their faith backgrounds they were out there were still 300 400 people maybe something like

00:24:11.540 that um somewhere in that range we kind of guessed it was it was kind of hectic um but yeah it was

00:24:16.880 it was definitely sad to see because like normally it's buses are showing up and there's thousands

00:24:21.480 of people um but we we got a couple hundred people instead so but uh but still the the mood was very

00:24:27.500 positive very happy um the footage we're seeing now is from the calgary pro-abortion protest um that

00:24:33.260 happened on sunday as well but uh there were quite a few actually counter protesters there as well

00:24:38.980 um again i it's interesting we talked to a whole bunch of people and you'll see this in the video

00:24:44.360 from the pro-life side and we actually said well do you think there's more important there's more

00:24:49.600 effective ways that the pro-abortion people could engage in dialogue or conversation um do you think

00:24:54.760 them playing weird music is maybe not appropriate given that there's children around it was incredible

00:24:59.460 just how freedom loving these people were they said no no i think it's their right to do that

00:25:04.200 like literally no one was even like they could be more respectful like we were giving them an

00:25:08.060 opportunity to say i don't think that's very nice they're like no no it's their right it's like

00:25:11.600 the universal sentiment we got from people um uh very interesting as well to see some of the

00:25:16.420 politicians present this extends to calgary as well but uh there was a little bit of a heated conflict

00:25:21.740 and some a little bit of bumping here and there but it it dissipated pretty quickly they were

00:25:27.120 chanting their slogans they were dancing playing music really loud trying to drown out the pro-life

00:25:32.020 message um the pro-lifers largely ignored them and sort of did their thing as well one thing that

00:25:36.580 was incredibly interesting um other than one journalist from western standard and ourselves there's virtually

00:25:41.580 no media coverage that we saw whatsoever if there was another independent journalist there i

00:25:45.220 apologize we saw no one conversely jump to the pro-abortion pro-choice whatever you want to call

00:25:50.400 it rally in calgary on sunday we saw like every major mainstream media outlet there as well uh there's

00:25:59.000 also a concerted effort by the organizers they were very polite like everyone was being cordial

00:26:03.120 but if anyone was willing to speak to us they'd come over and tell them not to speak with us sort of

00:26:07.300 thing um so we tried speaking to about 15 people and then we're just like okay we're not gonna be able

00:26:10.900 to talk to anybody at all but uh very interesting to see the politicians um who uh show up um we we saw

00:26:17.060 in uh edmonton janice erwin who we weirdly run into quite a few times she attended interestingly enough

00:26:23.740 though and much to her credit when some of the counter protesters kind of started getting shovey and a bit

00:26:28.540 much she immediately moved away from them and didn't want to be associated with that we we tried to get

00:26:32.980 an interview with her obviously to discuss bill 17 um wasn't wasn't willing to do that but that's all

00:26:38.640 right um and then uh we did have a chance though which will be in the video to talk to uh dan

00:26:42.380 williams uh mla for peace river and then uh joseph scow mla for cardston six six so we did get those

00:26:48.320 perspectives uh in calgary uh joe t gondek and john carlo uh showed up of course um and then we also saw

00:26:55.820 uh ganley uh the nd the ndp mla for uh rock mountain view um i think that's kathleen i don't know sorry

00:27:01.660 um but uh kathleen ganley okay good um so they were there they gave speeches as well so uh quite the

00:27:09.280 scene but uh it was so interesting to see all these media outlets for the maybe 100 people that showed up

00:27:15.540 for this pro-abortion thing even march really being small it was three four times the size um there's

00:27:21.240 action there's counter protests no media there to cover it whatsoever so uh yeah something to see

00:27:27.380 certainly you know adam i think i agree with your assessment of why the march for life was so small

00:27:33.460 and it is that so many people they were told by the government and by their own churches by the

00:27:41.820 churches going along with the government the church was unnecessary and that you can get everything

00:27:47.080 you need on facebook live church um and so if i am told that i can receive communion on facebook live

00:27:55.540 which i can't but if i'm told that then why do i necessarily have to be out in the streets advocating

00:28:01.800 for the rights of the unborn why can't i just do it on facebook live right like why can't i why

00:28:07.960 why can't i just share a meme that's as good as actually being present um and yeah people feel

00:28:15.660 other there are other people maybe i'm one of them that feels betrayed by their church and how

00:28:22.060 quickly the church capitulated to the government but i also remember that uh the church is uh populated

00:28:30.360 by human beings and human beings are flawed and we have actually a a built-in sacrament to deal with how

00:28:38.700 just how flawed human beings are and how they get them wrong it's called reconciliation so i have that

00:28:44.020 constant reminder that yeah people who are running the church are going to get it wrong but it is god's

00:28:49.960 church so i can't let the betrayal of the men get in between me and my relationship with god um but

00:28:55.940 yeah when you go to mass these days it's all just people who can't figure out how to use youtube

00:29:00.580 like it's all it's it's not the same way it used to be there or the diehards yeah or yeah exactly the

00:29:08.040 diehards um but it's not a place where you can just pop into anymore even it was it was difficult

00:29:15.200 to me because sometimes i would be like okay well i'm just going to pop into the church i'm going to

00:29:19.040 say a quick decade of the rosary and then carry on my day i couldn't do that anymore there was no like

00:29:24.900 spontaneity in i've got 10 minutes i'm just gonna quickly run into church as i'm waiting on a kid to

00:29:32.180 finish something i couldn't do that anymore i had to you know check in contact trace it was just

00:29:37.420 just a real pain to do it and it just drives people away and it changes how they their involvement in

00:29:46.440 the church as a building it becomes weird and and confrontational all the time and explanatory all

00:29:52.900 the time it's not easy um now you know like we're christians it's not supposed to be easy but

00:29:57.900 um it just it it just drove a wedge in between people and the church and i i can see why that is

00:30:04.620 hurting now the causes that flow from the church um yeah and we really the church really only has

00:30:10.980 itself to blame here and you know one of the interesting things the juxtaposition for me from

00:30:16.340 all of this covering a pro-life event and then a pro-abortion pro-choice event um if i say one people

00:30:22.460 will be mad either way so i'll say both um was sort of the counter-protest effort so it's kind of

00:30:27.420 lewd music and dancing and sort of trying to override the message it was really interesting

00:30:32.780 at the pro-abortion rally um in the distance it kind of looked like a crowd was gathering

00:30:37.020 and there was music starting which was of course larry heather singing because larry heather always

00:30:42.180 sings um in the background a frequent calgary mayoral candidates and a politician and all that

00:30:48.060 um and so the people at this pro-abortion rally they started sort of talking uh about them i think

00:30:54.940 they thought they were counter-protesters sort of gathering and making a fuss so that's where they

00:30:59.640 were reacting so i don't begrudge them for reacting but in reality what was happening was street church

00:31:04.280 pastor archer paulowski's street ministry was gathering um and so we went over there to check

00:31:09.660 it out and at a certain point towards the end some of the people went over to hold their signs up

00:31:14.220 and they left so quickly because like a hundred roughly uh unhoused people were in line to be fed

00:31:21.900 and this church was playing music and feeding them the message we heard all day from this pro-abortion

00:31:28.020 rally was though they're saying those christians over there they only care about stopping your rights

00:31:32.980 they don't care about you once you're born they don't take care of you once you're born yeah and

00:31:38.260 literally they're they're saying that about an outdoor kitchen that's feeding hundreds of people

00:31:42.600 one of my favorite conversations from the day um i was walking along and something about this

00:31:47.800 gentleman just struck me um i'm walking along saline's got the camera i've got the microphone

00:31:52.040 um and this uh this uh unha clearly unhoused man who was sort of waiting uh to go there says hey he

00:31:58.520 kind of gets my attention and he's like i'm not donald trump but i'd like to do an interview i'll answer

00:32:03.280 any question that you have um so i sat down with this guy um african-american guy black guy i think it's

00:32:09.880 okay to say that these days but uh um he he so very much um someone who they'd say the the proverbs

00:32:17.060 would say these people exclude and don't care about very much uh meeting many of those i don't

00:32:21.680 put people in boxes but marginalized categories unhoused a minority all that um i said what is

00:32:29.020 your perspective on what's happening here at street church with with this and he said you know what i

00:32:34.540 society here everyone's entitled to their opinion but i can tell you these people are going to feed

00:32:41.280 me these people look me in the eye this is the best meal i'm going to get this week those people

00:32:48.120 are entitled to their opinion but if anyone says anything bad about these people i don't really

00:32:52.580 care because they're feeding me um so it was really interesting just this guy sort of pulled me

00:32:56.620 aside and wanted to have that conversation but it was just such a staunch sort of juxtaposition

00:33:01.800 um the the counter protesters against march for life weren't there with like information pamphlets

00:33:07.400 and advocating for like oh well three month limits or whatever no it was very much a spectacle with rude

00:33:13.840 music and crude music and we'll do whatever we want um it wasn't a sort of calm formulated thing

00:33:19.540 meanwhile the perceived counter protest which wasn't a pro counter protest at all was actually a

00:33:24.560 kitchen feeding people on the streets um judge a tree by its fruits well and you know i having

00:33:31.580 part of my job is to watch all these videos before they go to broadcast i can tell you that it is

00:33:37.800 consistent across all the march for life marches for life march for lives march march marches for life

00:33:47.660 yeah kat and nat have the same experience they're literally talking to students on the street

00:33:53.180 um who are saying like pro-life students saying we're just here for uh peaceful discourse and the other

00:34:00.260 side is like f you nuns um and it's consistent dave david menzi same experience you had the same

00:34:07.180 experience um i could not find the old white men that keep they keep telling me have handcuffs for my

00:34:14.260 fallopian tubes i can't find them all i see are young people families uh nuns women minorities i'm

00:34:26.400 having a real tough time finding i mean there's larry heather but other than that all the old

00:34:32.360 white men trying to control everybody's life and it's right that you point out you know like they

00:34:37.080 say oh you know like they only care about you while you're carrying the baby they don't care about you

00:34:41.000 after that well there's catholic schools catholic or uh orphanages catholic hospitals catholic foster

00:34:46.380 care catholic homeless shelters catholic women shelters you know like there's there's all these things

00:34:51.380 where the where the pro-lifers take care of you after the fact too um i'm not seeing a lot of that

00:34:57.280 on the other side though no yeah certainly not and i mean there is this whole like you're free to make

00:35:02.580 your choice and we're pro-choice but i mean realistically there's there's one thing they're

00:35:06.160 sort of campaigning advocating for there's one thing that all the signs reference um the other thing

00:35:10.580 that's so interesting is just how caught up um this sort of movement the pro-abortion movement has

00:35:16.580 become in the very sort of woke conversational ideology yeah like i'm i'm pretty with it i mean

00:35:23.320 you'll see the footage for yourself when you review it on sunday i am not i i'm and there was times where

00:35:29.820 i was like is this english like and i mean don't get me some sometimes it wasn't sometimes it was

00:35:35.300 indigenous community speaking or whatever but i mean parts where they were speaking in english um you

00:35:39.940 legitimately couldn't sort of keep up because they were so not wanting to say anything we heard

00:35:46.500 all of the one of the speakers was saying that she knows that it's a soul and a life and she's

00:35:51.480 had six abortions and she's going to meet them in the afterlife but it wasn't their time now

00:35:55.340 um and then people screaming about you guys might be in different spots afterwards yeah and then people

00:36:02.720 screaming about men can get pregnant and that whole conversation about if you don't have ovaries but you

00:36:07.800 identify as a woman can you have a conversation um we always talk about this but there's this

00:36:12.700 the self-consuming snake where they're they're contradicting themselves they talked about how

00:36:17.980 terrible it was in in some of the residential schools that women would become pregnant and

00:36:22.380 sometimes there are cases where they were pregnant by priests or religious people um and they would

00:36:26.760 abort the baby and how terrible that was um and the forced sterilization but then how good abortion

00:36:32.020 is now it's it's just sort of like this uh there's not really like a coherent grounding it's kind of

00:36:38.300 it's grounded in whatever the woman wants at any given time which isn't like a solid metric from which

00:36:43.780 to to run one's life or to gauge a society yeah it hardly seems like science you know that your

00:36:53.020 feelings can change at a moment's notice and change whether or not this is valuable and a human being or

00:37:00.180 not at all just something else um but as we know feelings uh are the main dictator now with regard

00:37:08.520 to biological sex so why would this really be any different um we should move on because we have

00:37:14.420 other things that we should talk about although i could talk about this all day because i've actually

00:37:18.700 been there the the other side of this worst case scenario um so we should talk about the federal public

00:37:26.300 servants yeah we should uh because you know your family's getting hammered with inflation carbon tax

00:37:34.520 has gone up gas price at the pump out of control uh if you want to buy a house in one of the major

00:37:40.780 housing markets like vancouver and toronto forget it you're gonna have to win the lottery however

00:37:48.220 insulated from reality our friends in the public sector federal public service servants were paid

00:37:54.260 171 million dollars in bonuses from 2019 and 2020 despite departments leading meeting less than half

00:38:02.120 of performance objectives 89 of executives got bonuses paid on them failing over 50 of the time

00:38:10.100 to reach their targets conservative mp kelly mccauley said um imagine imagine being that good that good at

00:38:18.780 being bad at your job and getting a bonus like if that happened in our company like if we had someone

00:38:24.700 on the management team who was that bad we would just shuffle them out of the company but if you are

00:38:31.200 in the federal government you're getting a raise like a big huge fat raise yeah like imagine i don't know

00:38:40.140 if we've ever maybe we've scrapped one out of the hundreds and hundreds of reports i've done i don't even know

00:38:44.540 if that imagine if like half of every story i did we couldn't use and then you're like we're going to

00:38:50.180 give you a million dollar bonus like this is not how the world operates this is just how the government

00:38:55.420 operates and it's so and we're going to talk about john uh horgan in a second too here but there's this

00:39:00.880 promise perpetually from politicians that we're going to bring in these cost saving measures you're

00:39:06.860 the ones driving up the costs it this is the problem when you spend money and you get nothing

00:39:13.180 you devalue the money so when you're handing out bonuses to politicians who are doing nothing and

00:39:18.400 failing metrics and when you're spending fortunes on carbon taxes which accomplish nothing uh when you

00:39:23.840 just dump money into nothing projects when you have billions of dollars going missing on

00:39:27.340 infrastructure projects not to mention billions of dollars going missing in this in the cbc and by

00:39:32.300 missing i mean the content they produce but yeah billions of dollars just evaporating that devalues

00:39:38.380 money serb devalued money just printing money and producing money on a fundamental level devalues money

00:39:45.180 and that's why the average house price in canada has doubled since justin trudeau has been in because

00:39:49.000 they spend money on nothing which makes money worthless the ten dollars that you had in your pocket

00:39:53.920 if you're trying to buy a house 10 years ago 12 years ago is worth five bucks now

00:39:59.140 this is what these people are doing to society and they're getting so rich printing this money and

00:40:05.060 spending it that they don't care because they don't care if they go from having 10 million dollars to

00:40:08.960 five million dollars but you or i if we're trying to put fuel in our car and we go from 10 bucks to

00:40:14.160 five bucks that's a different story all together that means we're getting half as far maybe we can't

00:40:18.440 get to work um this is a sort of elitism from this ruling class that is so out of touch and john

00:40:23.920 we're going to talk about him soon um but that this unbelievable dump of funds into nothing uh and

00:40:31.240 this sort of it's literally on the level of like sort of uh che gavera castro and buddies just they're

00:40:38.260 all living in castles and paying themselves out the wazoo like unbelievable sums of money while

00:40:44.120 everyone else suffers and that's the sunny ways that they've promised us it's unreal and not to

00:40:49.560 mention this is another thing we're going to talk about soon but uh what we're seeing um among some

00:40:53.620 indigenous communities like this money could be providing clean drinking water and instead

00:40:57.860 it's going to bonuses for people who are failing to provide clean drinking water yeah yeah i'll just

00:41:04.580 say one thing about this and we'll move on because we've got a lot of stuff to talk about

00:41:09.060 kelly mccauley who's really good actually i really like kelly i'm going to talk to him about this

00:41:13.200 actually you should uh he said it's pay for failure and he said uh in the documents the treasury board

00:41:22.660 noted that bonuses were doled out to 89 of the public sectors is public sectors executives or 7232 people

00:41:33.160 in 2020 2021 this only prompts one question from me how awful were those other 11

00:41:42.260 like how bad do you have to be to not get a bonus at this point in the federal government yeah because

00:41:50.380 they're not going to fire you but how bad do you have to be when you can actually fail 50 of the time

00:41:55.940 and still get a substantial bonus a bonus for your good work how bad are those other 11 they had to

00:42:02.840 find like even one good thing it was like a lot even one good thing um and they couldn't find the one

00:42:09.380 good thing so they instead of being uh scorched uh they they they got uh no bonus now moving on to

00:42:15.980 people who are completely out of touch um john horgan bc's terrible terrible premier he's just awful

00:42:23.500 um but again because they have all their population base in toronto or in vancouver where everybody votes

00:42:31.560 green or ndp this is what you get right they this idiocy controls the rest of the province john horgan is

00:42:39.280 encouraging people to think before you hop in the car amid record record breaking gas prices

00:42:45.460 this joins like the why don't you just get a tesla yeah what are you he should have thought before

00:42:51.280 hopping into politics because he doesn't know what he's doing he should think before he opens his yap

00:42:56.080 does he think that people are just going out for a sunday drive these days that i'm just you know

00:43:01.760 what i thought before i jumped on the live stream here i would fire up the jeep and just let it idle for

00:43:05.740 an hour and 15 minutes i got nothing better to do i should have thought before i did it but you know

00:43:10.840 what while i'm here wasting gas and burning up cash i just thought you know what just let her run

00:43:14.800 what does he think that people are like driving unnecessarily it's too expensive to drive

00:43:22.980 unnecessarily they're you're cutting into their family's savings uh their grocery bills their future

00:43:31.280 because of these ridiculous gas taxes carbon tax that he's a big fan of he doesn't want supply

00:43:38.000 increase down there because he doesn't want the trans mountain pipeline belt so um i guess you just

00:43:43.920 have to think i hope they do think i hope they think that's the last time we elect an ndp government

00:43:49.320 every time they put the nozzle in their gas tank that's what they should be thinking well and the thing

00:43:54.440 that absolutely drives me nuts about this and it's the same junk with justin trudeau it's this oh well

00:43:59.360 we're gonna have sort of incentives and breaks to bring down costs so we're gonna hire new people

00:44:03.920 and make these new departments the cost is because of your carbon tax the cost is your tax don't tax me

00:44:10.880 and then create a department to give me a break on my bills elsewhere because canada is just spending

00:44:16.960 billions of dollars making a carbon tax that the government isn't using to really help the

00:44:21.880 environment but to take more money in and then creating departments to give me a break on taxes

00:44:26.820 because i can't afford just cut our taxes like he's like well we're not going to interject at the

00:44:31.020 pump we're not going to cut taxes at the pump we're not going to help people actually do their jobs and

00:44:35.180 get to work um but we're gonna we're gonna come up with something else once it's too late i will create

00:44:40.020 a new department of cost cutting um and then we'll tax you for that too we'll add that we'll tax we'll have

00:44:45.420 a cost cutting tax um on your taxes we'll add that so that we can cut costs uh it is so the the level

00:44:53.320 of mary antoinette let them eat cake miss of politicians on the progressive left they're the

00:44:59.600 elite of the elite they're out of touch with normal people they don't care about the working class very

00:45:04.660 often they don't care um about sort of uh working class immigrants maybe not the very posh immigrants

00:45:09.560 who come over and they're in very good financial shape but the working class immigrants who are trying

00:45:13.160 to make them make something of themselves all the people that these radical elite liberal leftists

00:45:19.520 this they they preach about or they pretend to care about they don't do anything for them um they're

00:45:25.180 just concentrating more money and then giving themselves 171 million dollars in bonuses it's

00:45:31.200 repugnant like it's i there used to be this notion of getting into politics out of out of a sense of

00:45:36.680 service um i i think it's hard pressed to argue that you may be among the very best politicians sure

00:45:42.940 but overall the the whole institution it's almost like what you've seen with uh police with this

00:45:48.600 with the the arrests of pastors like the the institutions of society that we're supposed to

00:45:54.100 trust like our politicians which i mean i don't know how much you trust them the police all these

00:45:58.620 service departments our health care system um they've been the the paramount examples of corruption

00:46:03.780 entitlement um and what's gone wrong in society under justin trudeau i just don't know how these people

00:46:10.460 don't understand how this affects their own life like i think politicians buy groceries i think maybe

00:46:18.580 they put fuel in their car right like they but maybe they make so much more money than everybody else

00:46:24.920 and the taxpayer picks up a lot of those expenses too so they really don't understand how the the

00:46:29.120 everything comes together um for example he says he's more worried about the inflationary impacts on

00:46:36.360 things like food prices than he is about the cost of gas at the pump the same thing they're all

00:46:42.620 they're exactly it's all interconnected you're paying more for groceries because fuel costs more

00:46:48.020 and fuel costs more because you're taxing the daylights out of it so if you're worried about food prices

00:46:52.740 well then you have to worry about the tax that you're putting on the thing that gets the food to

00:46:57.360 the grocery store but also all the inputs for the farmer for natural gas and inputs on fertilizers

00:47:04.240 because it's all the same right um this is the crazy thing though but right now i encourage people

00:47:11.360 to think before you hop in the car do you need to make that trip again the laptop class is telling the

00:47:18.260 makers that you maybe you don't need to go to work uh today and he says can you do it with a neighbor

00:47:24.380 or someone just going by just run up knock on the neighbor neighbor's door and say can you give me a

00:47:31.440 lift to work because the government made driving my car too expensive and that's the government's

00:47:36.160 solution we're not going to cut the carbon tax but would you mind just asking bumming a ride off

00:47:42.840 your neighbor good job problem solver government good job and i think to your point that i think it is

00:47:49.360 they make so much money they're getting these bonuses um an apple going from whatever 80 cents to

00:47:54.760 about 20 whatever i don't know what it is in vancouver but it's ridiculous um that to them is kind of

00:48:00.100 whatever but i literally think they're of the mentality well if gas is expensive i'll just have

00:48:05.140 the chauffeur come get me like they're that dissociated from the fact that the chauffeur has

00:48:10.760 to pay for gas too or hey just get a tesla everyone can afford an 80 120 000 vehicle whatever it may be

00:48:16.900 they're completely disconnected with the reality that the vast majority of canadians live in and you

00:48:21.900 see that with the popularity of justin trudeau he's on the decline some of these ideas are on the

00:48:26.980 decline unfortunately there are still people who are just like i'm never going to vote for

00:48:31.020 conservatives or i'm never going to vote for ppc or whoever it may be but at a certain point you have

00:48:36.300 to realize that that what's happening in this country when there was massive recessions like

00:48:40.760 harper or not he had good fiscal policy in place and canada was able to ride it out far more smoothly

00:48:46.060 we're sort of in one of the most extreme bumps and it's because of this bad government flat out

00:48:51.220 and hopefully people realize that yep uh maybe we'll talk about this one last thing while olivia

00:48:58.180 rounds up the uh chats for us if we have any hopefully we do um talk about disconnected and

00:49:07.200 out of touch they are going to i don't know fix a problem without actually fixing the root causes and

00:49:15.620 i hate to use that phrase because that's such a liberal lefty phrase but in this case i think there

00:49:19.960 it might actually apply ottawa is going to implement legislation to to decrease indigenous

00:49:27.380 incarceration says canada's justice minister and as i was poking around on this story

00:49:31.340 nearly half of all federally incarcerated women are indigenous

00:49:34.920 and instead of dealing with the root causes that forces people to feel as though they have no other

00:49:44.680 choice except criminality or the social decay problems that are happening on uh indigenous

00:49:51.020 reserves because of generational poverty quit blocking energy development so that people can

00:49:58.760 actually have jobs in their own communities because i cannot think of a more indigenous job

00:50:04.220 in indigenous communities than resource development but you know instead of dealing with the issues that

00:50:10.480 cause the problem where indigenous people end up often in a life of crime and all just the things that

00:50:20.540 are caused by social decay um instead of dealing with that where it starts we're just going to cut

00:50:26.320 everyone a pass after the fact and i don't think that's right no well and i i think it is actually

00:50:32.960 actively racist um it literally it literally implies that that indigenous people are somehow lesser and

00:50:41.500 somehow can't adhere to reasonable standards sort of set out by society which is ridiculous and

00:50:46.980 unfortunately once you set up that standard well there's not going to be consequences the laws don't

00:50:51.640 apply to you that is sort of unit viewed as a tacit endorsement um i worked in social work personally

00:50:57.620 and you saw very often different category criteria where uh certain behaviors say uh in an indigenous

00:51:04.200 community um would see you never have access to your kids again um in uh in a in calgary um so

00:51:13.000 certain certain sort of conduct that was just abhorrent that would see you permanently removed from

00:51:17.660 your children um they would not really enforce or implement any sort of restrictions or measures

00:51:22.060 and that feeds to that social decay um there's just like an acceptance of things that are

00:51:26.920 unacceptable which is fundamentally racist and it implies that they're not capable of maintaining

00:51:32.960 certain standards of maintaining uh laws it's which is just so fundamentally racist but i think

00:51:38.780 what this is on a fundamental level is just more vapid virtue signaling about how we're not going to

00:51:45.580 oppress these people and we're not going to you know what i all of that sure whatever let's give them

00:51:51.320 clean drinking water let's take care of some of these freaking excuse my french basics

00:51:56.900 um to help these people out instead of just posturing and doing this there's like this massive

00:52:03.260 glaring elephant in the room i think it's one of the most critical issues facing canada period that

00:52:09.680 some canadians can't turn on their tap and drink the water some canadians can't give their kids baths

00:52:14.360 that fundamentally destroys the the purity of the water is certainly reflected within society that

00:52:20.920 destroys the community it destroys the culture a mom not being able to give her kid a bath

00:52:26.460 destroys the family in a way they want to provide that care they want to nurture um it's so just

00:52:32.980 fundamentally undermining to their society and it's the same thing that you see in like communist

00:52:39.440 countries where people are suffering criminality is rampant you can't turn on the tap and trust the

00:52:45.400 water there's no basic standards there's no enforcement or quality of life there's arbitrary

00:52:50.800 structures within those communities implemented very often through illicit means and corruption

00:52:56.700 where most of the money going in ends up getting caught in government contracts or going to bonuses

00:53:01.280 or whatever else it may be but we can brush all of that aside we can there's complications there's

00:53:07.660 nuance you have to deal with cultural sensitivities all that stuff sure we can actually put that aside

00:53:13.420 for a minute and just let them turn their taps on and use the water let's get that done all the truth and

00:53:18.940 reconciliation stuff some of it very important some of it i don't agree with but whatever those things

00:53:24.620 are sure keep working on those but we can put all that aside we can steer clear of the politics we can

00:53:29.920 steer clear of anything else and we can just get them clean drinking water now you make a really great

00:53:36.820 point because i i say you know what the problems facing indigenous communities are so much the same as

00:53:44.180 problems facing everybody um you need jobs uh you need drug treatment not uh harm reduction as they call

00:53:53.960 when the government just keeps people in active addiction instead of uh getting treatment for

00:54:00.180 substance abuse clean water pro-family policies because one of the number one things that contributes

00:54:06.840 to criminality later on down the road is whether or not you come from an intact family

00:54:11.720 um and those are things that everybody needs these are but for some reason the paternalistic nature of

00:54:20.400 the canadian government says uh you know what we'll get around to you eventually um instead of

00:54:27.760 empowering people this is one of the things pierre polyev talks about all the time is saying we got to

00:54:32.620 get the gatekeepers of ottawa out of the way we have to unlock the human potential here um just like

00:54:38.300 every other community and you know it's fun you know people say you know like clean drinking water

00:54:42.680 what does that got to do with criminality if you feel like the world doesn't care enough about you

00:54:50.460 to give you the thing that everybody else has when they turn on the tap yeah then why do you care

00:54:57.740 about yourself and why do you care about the other people if you approach the world with that attitude

00:55:03.120 it's a recipe for disaster and the thing for me is people out there who might think they're on the

00:55:09.380 absolute opposite end of the spectrum they may say terrible things to us when they see us in public

00:55:15.020 whatever it may be i mean i think this is something we can agree on uh we will why are being so caught

00:55:23.580 up in like a few people despite 20 bands along the wet sweat and sort of coast all agreeing to a pipeline

00:55:30.220 protesting that and being so caught up on that is because of global sort of interest groups it's not

00:55:35.460 because of concern for the indigenous communities when there's these other massive glaring issues

00:55:40.040 that we should be working together on to address there's there's so much sort of whether it be and

00:55:46.960 it's so funny because it's i mean to use another term of the left how colonial is it that they just use

00:55:52.360 the indigenous space as a sort of risk table play place for contracts and getting each other rich

00:55:59.500 and attacking canadian oil under the guise of this being the interest of the indigenous communities

00:56:04.660 when the majority of bands for example 20 voted for the trans or coastal and gas pipeline why are we

00:56:11.320 focused on that it's because activists and lobbyists are directing our attention towards that

00:56:16.620 what we should all i don't care where you are on the spectrum what you and i if you're on the extreme

00:56:21.020 left extreme right whatever what you and i should be concerned about if we care about human people and

00:56:25.660 care about human decency in any way shape or form we shouldn't be focused on that we should be focused

00:56:30.380 on these massive contracts going to people who just year after year refuse to provide clean drinking

00:56:35.600 water we have the technology jocelyn bergek and a number of other people have confirmed the funds are

00:56:40.440 there we have the technology basically it's greed and corruption keeping us from resolving this issue

00:56:45.000 within the decade this is completely doable um so if someone is out there by all means we would love

00:56:50.640 to be involved in bringing more attention to this story if you're someone maybe interested in providing

00:56:56.200 water for indigenous communities um you haven't had a chance to get your story out you you don't

00:57:00.980 think in a million years you'd ever talk to rebel news send me an email let's do something because

00:57:04.860 this is one of the sort of i think the critical crux points in canadian society that we sort of have

00:57:11.060 to be judged as a society on i think there are others uh pro-life issues being one of them we talked

00:57:16.540 about that earlier but this is an issue that universally we can agree on and we should all

00:57:20.640 be working together and sadly we should all be working against the government to get this done

00:57:24.700 yeah you know my friend robbie picard he's metis um oil sands advocate um up in fort mcmurray and

00:57:33.620 you know i share his sentiment when he says he's got such disdain for the environmental movement

00:57:39.180 because they don't care who they leave in poverty and poverty destroys culture it just destroys it

00:57:46.520 they don't care what sort of poverty they damn these indigenous communities to as long as they

00:57:52.760 block that pipeline because they were paid to block that pipeline and uh as you say it's all it's

00:57:59.560 always these foreign globalist interests um and the people are just pawns along the way and they

00:58:06.560 really don't care what happens to them as long as their mission is accomplished yeah okay let's uh we've

00:58:13.980 got a few chats here we're almost at uh the top of the hour so we've got five libraries from cuba bound

00:58:18.700 why are people listening to people who won't be held accountable well because sometimes they'll put

00:58:23.380 you in jail that's what happened with dina hinshaw you know that lock up your church i'll put you in

00:58:28.680 jail that's a big fear factor there um this was not a pandemic case in point changing definitions to

00:58:34.620 their narratives they've also they you know they've changed the definition of vaccine and i'm just sort

00:58:38.820 of dancing around this but i think that's a fact that they've changed how they define a vaccine

00:58:44.600 these days as opposed to what we used to think of as a vaccine you know the the marxists knew

00:58:52.820 the value in changing the language and how we communicate with each other you know well even

00:58:58.740 looking at that term and i'm not talking about cova 19 i'm talking about broadly i was having a

00:59:02.460 conversation with someone about vaccines and they were saying vaccines work and it's like well

00:59:06.840 actually the the vast majority this is how it works like you test drugs you try and see if they're

00:59:11.420 effective the majority of medications don't work and they don't become popularized and they don't

00:59:15.860 become used broadly by society and the the rare successful ones it's the same with vaccines

00:59:20.820 medicines whatever it is it's actually the rare ones that do work very successfully and become

00:59:25.840 sort of widespread and success stories that's why there's there's probably tons of vaccines developed

00:59:31.300 throughout history and we know polio or mmr there's certain ones that that are extremely successful

00:59:36.080 and become widespread and used so that even that sentiment around the language of uh that vaccines

00:59:42.300 work period well approved sort of tested vaccines work but the sentiment that every vaccine that's

00:59:47.540 ever been developed worked works that's not scientific no uh holly wong gives us two bucks paying a carbon

00:59:55.020 tax to fight warming in a country where the biggest complaint is it's too damn cold out should be left to

01:00:00.300 monty python yeah i mean a longer growing season doesn't seem like a bad idea here i mean we had to

01:00:07.500 develop canola in canada to deal with a short growing season and that it you know it ripens after its swath

01:00:15.120 exposed to the cold because that was the way to deal with the shorter growing seasons here and uh you know if

01:00:24.320 they threaten me with a warmer weather i don't know am i supposed to be mad about that am i am i supposed

01:00:32.520 to pay taxes for that by the way there's no how adam think about this and i talk about this all the time

01:00:38.240 but it's once you start thinking about it you're like yeah of course how do you measure

01:00:44.140 the global temperature first of all how do you measure that and how do you measure the increase

01:00:53.280 globally you can't even accurately measure the temperature in your backyard you cannot the only

01:00:59.720 time you get a temperature reading is at that point at that minute where that thermometer is there's no

01:01:05.700 actual way if you even put a thermometer in your backyard in three different spots you're gonna get

01:01:10.100 three different ratings yeah so how do you how do they tell me that a tax is going to stop us from

01:01:15.020 achieving going over 1.5 degrees celsius or whatever it is how is that possible it's not

01:01:20.520 yeah no i think i think it's dennis miller or something he has a stand-up bit about this he talks

01:01:26.500 about climate change at length he's like ah there's something to it but i don't know if i believe all of

01:01:30.440 it and he references some of the numbers back in the day from like you literally had like these like

01:01:34.940 pioneer farmers digging like a hole and measuring core temperatures in a hole like i don't know yeah

01:01:42.180 yeah there's certainly questions and this is the thing is whether you believe it or not i mean

01:01:46.320 it becomes religious once you're not willing to have a conversation about it or not willing to discuss

01:01:52.260 or engage in it i think that that's important because i think if you have that conversation about

01:01:56.480 how does giving tax to the government alleviate climate change yeah um but i think we have

01:02:04.860 one last chat left before we go and wow we're keeping the show pretty tight today but i want to let

01:02:10.180 everybody know that tonight we have a live stream with i think it's myself and ezra uh and it is the

01:02:18.500 ontario leaders debate uh it's happening tonight in toronto um sounds as though we've got two

01:02:27.940 journalists tamari ugolini and lincoln j accredited to be inside the building with the cabal they call

01:02:34.080 it the consortium but it's the cabal of mainstream media journalists and we're going to be hosting the

01:02:38.740 live stream and we'll be skyping in some special guests and answering your questions and giving your

01:02:42.880 reactions which i'm sure i'm going to have so many um even though i'm in albertana you know

01:02:47.800 ontario fancies itself to be the center of the universe and uh the country is run that way so

01:02:53.120 we have to pay very close attention to these people um so that's tonight uh olivia what time is that

01:02:58.260 starting so 5 30 eastern time which is 3 30 mountain for me so it's gonna be a long night for me so um

01:03:13.440 that is uh later on today hopefully you'll tune in um and yes we are going live at 5 30 eastern and

01:03:20.640 3 30 my time i gotta get some snacks in here because that seems like it's gonna be right

01:03:25.020 across the dinner hour for me um so let's just get to this one last one and then we'll sign off

01:03:29.600 so world's worst gamer i don't think you're that could you be that terrible i'm not great although i'm

01:03:36.360 good at mario cart um gives us a bucket says don't agree with all you say but appreciate you better

01:03:42.000 than mainstream media hey that's all open civil discourse that's all we want you know check it

01:03:47.920 all out form your own opinion exactly you get to hear two people share a conversation and you guys

01:03:55.020 can have a conversation going in the comments on the live stream or wherever um that's all we want

01:04:00.880 you know this idea that people can look at an issue and have a different viewpoint and that's

01:04:07.620 fine it's not harmful it's actually better it's better it's a more lively vibrant society with the

01:04:13.380 ability to solve problems to that point it's so interesting this weekend they kept talking about

01:04:17.220 intersectionality and i was just thinking there used to be a word for this it was called discourse

01:04:20.920 um and dialogue um people coming together different perspectives sharing that without all the

01:04:27.780 overbearing sort of political tones and political correctness it's wherever you're coming from

01:04:32.280 wherever i'm coming from we can have a conversation come to some common ground and i think that's what

01:04:36.340 so much of the stream is about share some news get a different perspective out there and share the

01:04:40.960 other side of the story yeah no that's why we have different hosts throughout the week too besides the

01:04:45.680 fact that we're all kind of busy but we all have a different viewpoint i am a boring old marm out of

01:04:51.040 touch with pop culture and some of the younger people here take a sort of a conservative view

01:04:56.740 of pop culture adam you're somewhere in the middle you're a dad but you're a social conservative

01:05:01.480 and you're far more hip than me david menzies he's um well he's a boomer right so so uh you know

01:05:08.640 there's different viewpoints we all approach things differently and we're in different styles but that's

01:05:12.740 what i love about rebel news is that there's a conservative for you in amongst the mix you'll find

01:05:18.780 your favorite if you just keep watching um i should uh sign off uh everybody thank you so much for

01:05:25.240 watching adam thanks so much for being my co-host olivia and the gang in the office including the

01:05:31.640 web team and the people who provide the links so that you can click on them so that you can see us

01:05:35.740 thank you um for all the work that you guys do behind the scenes to put the show together thank you to

01:05:40.180 everybody who pitched in like i said off the top of the show i know there are plenty of places where

01:05:43.660 you could spend your money you don't have to give it to us but you make a choice to support us and we do

01:05:47.520 appreciate that and as david menzies always says stay sane so you you would have had your what your

01:05:56.400 two you would have two you'd have two uh vaccinations and then two booster shots is that right that's

01:06:01.940 right and you know for people over you know 50 or 60 uh they'll probably have to be boosted every

01:06:09.060 six months until we get even better vaccines so i've been trying to figure this out for myself

01:06:14.460 i assume you know the answer to this so i'll just ask you um when do you get boosted again i mean

01:06:20.760 now that you've had it you know i've had around the same time i've only gotten three shots total

01:06:25.220 only been boosted once i i guess we have immunity for a little while or but when do you decide to get

01:06:32.220 boosted again uh yeah so an infection where you'll get a high viral load would be like vaccination uh

01:06:41.460 but you know to be safe every six months you're probably going to be vaccinated as we get more

01:06:46.640 data they might even make that shorter for people who are or you know say 60 or over 70 where the

01:06:53.520 duration seems to be a bit lower um so we're in for ongoing vaccination to stay absolutely safe

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Rebel News Podcast - May 16, 2022

DAILY ｜ Judge reveals Deena Hinshaw's secrets; Pro-life⧸pro-choice protesters face off in Alberta

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