Rebel News Podcast - DAVID MENZIES ｜ Ontario teachers' union votes to tackle 'anti-Palestinian racism' while Jewish students face skyrocketing harassment

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00:00:30.000 Tonight, it's official.

00:00:42.800 The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario now officially supports anti-Semitism.

00:00:49.660 I shall explain all.

00:00:51.260 It's Wednesday, August 13th, 2025.

00:00:54.840 I'm David Menzies, and this is The Ezra Levent Show.

00:01:00.000 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:13.760 Well, folks, it's pretty much official.

00:01:16.400 Anti-Semitism is moving from the streets and back alleys and is now being embraced in the classroom.

00:01:23.420 Even elementary classrooms, I shall explain.

00:01:28.160 The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario is currently having its annual general meeting in Toronto.

00:01:34.380 Now, noting that teachers' unions in Canada are leftist, uber-woke cabals is about as newsworthy as remarking that there's saltwater in the Pacific Ocean.

00:01:47.020 However, there is no teachers' union in our great dominion that is so ridiculously woke as the E-T-F-O. 0.81

00:01:57.420 By way of example, do you remember when these nutbars garnered international attention in 2018 for all the wrong reasons? 1.00

00:02:06.420 That's when the union decided that the four-letter initialism, LGBT, was not nearly inclusive enough.

00:02:16.480 So they cooked up a new and not-so-improved 15-letter initialism.

00:02:22.420 Yes, 15 letters.

00:02:24.500 Here goes.

00:02:25.060 L-G-G-B-D-T-T-T-I-Q-Q-A-A-P-P. 1.00

00:02:34.480 Gee, I think they forgot to include W-T-F.

00:02:38.940 This lunacy caught the attention of Tucker Carlson, who was with Fox News at the time.

00:02:44.180 And Tucker invited onto his show Stephen LeDrew, the former president of the Liberal Party of Canada, to discuss this claptrap.

00:02:55.040 Spoiler alert, didn't go all that well for LeDrew.

00:02:58.700 Teachers in Durham, Ontario, had to attend an inclusiveness training course for the deep breath here.

00:03:05.440 L-G-G-B-D-T-T-T-I-Q-Q-A-A-P-P community, which is apparently a community. 1.00

00:03:14.460 That 15-letter acronym intended to encompass all sexual minorities.

00:03:17.440 It may soon be required at schools.

00:03:20.520 Stephen LeDrew is the former president of Canada's Liberal Party, and he joins us tonight.

00:03:24.100 Stephen, thanks for coming on.

00:03:25.640 Hi, Tucker.

00:03:26.460 So what does this acronym mean specifically?

00:03:28.560 What are the categories?

00:03:30.540 Well, I mean, it's generally shortened to LGBTQ, which is the communities, and there's a few extra ones they've added in there.

00:03:37.020 But no one goes by that.

00:03:39.700 Maybe that's to teach kids the alphabet or not.

00:03:42.100 But generally, it's referred to, the prime minister referred to it yesterday in the House of Commons during his apology, as LGBTQ.

00:03:48.820 And some people don't even know what it means.

00:03:51.980 But they just know that it means inclusiveness.

00:03:54.140 It's a good thing.

00:03:55.200 It's a question of tolerance.

00:03:56.920 Yeah, so nobody knows what it means, even though I thought kids go to school to get an education

00:04:04.300 so that they can, you know, get to know the meaning of things.

00:04:09.640 But because this initialism is inclusive, that means it's good.

00:04:15.760 By the way, in an unbelievable twist of irony, there was very, very little inclusion for Stephen LeDrew's opinions.

00:04:24.140 You see, LeDrew was fired by Bell Media after this interview aired.

00:04:29.680 Here is the question and the answer that made Bell hang up on LeDrew, as in permanently.

00:04:37.060 What's two-spirit?

00:04:39.240 Well, two-spirit sounds like there's someone they don't know whether they're, you know, fish or fowl.

00:04:43.500 They don't know whether they're frick or frack.

00:04:45.280 So they're clearly confused.

00:04:47.020 And, you know, again, if you're confused, what better place to go than to be at school?

00:04:51.440 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, Stephen LeDrew.

00:04:53.280 How dare you call confused people confused?

00:04:59.060 And so it was that a 20-year career with Bell Media was terminated

00:05:03.520 when the unhinged members of the Rainbow Mafia reacted with predictable outrage.

00:05:10.360 Oh, P.S. LeDrew's focus on the show that night was making the case

00:05:15.860 that Canada is a bastion of free speech.

00:05:20.740 Unbelievable.

00:05:21.380 But that was seven years ago.

00:05:24.240 So what does the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario do for an encore in 2025?

00:05:31.620 Well, they've gone from ignoring anti-Semitism to, well, actually embracing anti-Semitism,

00:05:39.160 something that is very fashionable in certain circles these days,

00:05:43.640 including the Prime Minister's office.

00:05:45.860 In any event, check out this motion that was tabled the other day at the Union's conference.

00:05:53.460 It's quote that ETFO create a resource on best practices to support Palestinian students

00:06:02.060 and distribute this response to all members.

00:06:05.520 The resources scope should include anti-Palestinian racism, affirming Palestinian identity,

00:06:13.980 and teaching about Palestinian history, end quote.

00:06:19.120 That's right.

00:06:20.140 It is unsafe to be openly Jewish in certain neighborhoods in Ontario, and for that matter, in Canada.

00:06:28.780 And the response by the ETFO is to focus on so-called anti-Palestinian racism.

00:06:39.600 It makes you wonder who were the terrorists and who were the victims on October 7, 2023,

00:06:46.080 you know, when almost 1,200 people were massacred in Israel and some 250 were kidnapped by Hamas.

00:06:53.560 In the meantime, anti-Semitism, including violent anti-Semitism, has emerged as a very ugly stain on Canada.

00:07:04.460 On a weekly basis, the Hamasos gather in Jewish neighborhoods to chant genocide, 0.97

00:07:10.020 display swastikas, and even cosplay as the terrorist mastermind, Sinwar. 0.55

00:07:16.280 As well, Jews are being physically assaulted in broad daylight.

00:07:21.420 Synagogues are being vandalized.

00:07:23.560 One private Jewish girl's school in Toronto has been shot up three times so far.

00:07:30.640 And the response from law enforcement?

00:07:32.640 Well, they deliver the hooligans coffee and donuts while arresting peaceful counter-demonstrators

00:07:39.500 and members of the independent media who might, you know, further incite the violent mob.

00:07:45.640 Nice.

00:07:47.140 And the response from the media?

00:07:49.060 Yeah, well, pretty much radio silence.

00:07:52.440 The mainstream media, that is.

00:07:54.760 And the response from our elected officials?

00:07:57.540 Oh, you guessed it.

00:07:58.460 Zip, zilch, nada.

00:07:59.560 Oh, sure.

00:08:00.340 They'll say, hate has no home here.

00:08:03.660 And then they'll roll out the red carpet to hatred by doing nothing to stop the haters.

00:08:11.860 Indeed, it used to be that the massive walk with Israel event would attract a who's who

00:08:16.460 of those in the political class.

00:08:18.520 But this year, the prime minister, the premier of Ontario, the mayor of Toronto, they were

00:08:24.220 all noticeably AWOL.

00:08:25.940 Hey, then again, maybe in the case of Mark Carney, there was no appetite to attend as people at

00:08:31.680 this solidarity march tend to keep their clothes on, thereby depriving Carney the opportunity

00:08:37.900 of hugging men in thongs like he did at the Vancouver Pride Parade.

00:08:43.380 But I digress.

00:08:44.680 The point is, with all this repugnant anti-Semitism raging, Ontario's Elementary Teachers Union is

00:08:54.220 obsessed with anti-Palestinian racism? 0.92

00:08:57.720 Hate to be a nitpicker here, but when it comes to anti-Palestinian racism, I defer to Romulan 0.99

00:09:06.600 Centre Wrenak. 0.61

00:09:08.940 It's a fake.

00:09:10.480 That's right.

00:09:11.080 It's fictional.

00:09:11.980 It does not exist.

00:09:13.160 It's a nothing burger with cheese.

00:09:15.500 Oh, and don't take my word for it, folks.

00:09:17.140 Just consider the Toronto District School Board, which, much like the Elementary Teachers

00:09:22.840 Federation of Ontario, is absolutely obsessed with anti-Palestinian racism, while turning

00:09:30.060 a blind eye and a deaf ear to anti-Semitism in its classrooms.

00:09:36.080 This, despite a huge outcry from Jewish students, parents, and their allies, hundreds of whom

00:09:43.100 gathered at TDSB headquarters last June to stage a demonstration.

00:09:48.740 Extra clear.

00:09:50.020 We've seen firsthand what's been happening at these schools, and it's not acceptable.

00:10:05.240 I'm an employee of this board, and I'm a little sick of the nonsense. 0.75

00:10:11.840 I'll just leave it at that, the nonsense.

00:10:13.180 The TDSB needs to gain control of the situation, and understand the widespread suffering that

00:10:19.100 they have allowed to persist.

00:10:22.900 Students miss school because they're afraid of being targeted for being Jewish, and even

00:10:27.900 teachers have missed school because they're afraid that their students will target them.

00:10:31.720 I do hope we can make a difference.

00:10:34.020 I think we will, because Jewish students, parents, staff, everybody needs to feel safe and supported

00:10:40.560 in the place of education, and it's time that we stepped up and made those changes.

00:10:44.720 And let's examine the facts of the matter, shall we?

00:10:48.860 I point to a recent study, anti-Semitism, in Ontario's K-12 schools by University of Toronto

00:10:57.240 sociology professor Robert Brime.

00:11:00.440 Brime was commissioned to study this issue by Deborah Lyons, Canada's special envoy, on combating

00:11:08.000 anti-Semitism, before she resigned last month.

00:11:12.400 Here's the skinny.

00:11:13.080 Brime surveyed 599 Jewish parents who had reported 781 anti-Semitic incidents in Ontario's education

00:11:25.120 system from October 2023 until January of this year.

00:11:30.380 Overall, Brime reported nearly one in six anti-medic incidents were initiated or approved by a teacher

00:11:41.720 or involved a school-sanctioned activity.

00:11:47.100 In six out of ten reported cases of anti-Semitism, the school involved either didn't investigate,

00:11:53.580 denied it was anti-Semitism, or punished the victims by recommending they take remote classes

00:12:01.540 or switch schools rather than the perpetrators.

00:12:05.580 Some of the stories Brime uncovered are truly disturbing, such as a six-year-old girl being told

00:12:12.100 by her teacher that she was only half human because one of her parents is Jewish.

00:12:17.380 Another teacher told a different six-year-old girl, who was wearing a necklace with a pendant

00:12:24.100 in the shape of a map of Israel, that this was actually a map of Palestine and that her Hebrew 0.95

00:12:30.900 school teachers are liars. 0.95

00:12:33.840 Remember, these are the teachers acting in such a gross and egregious way, not the anti-Jew 1.00

00:12:41.900 bullies in the classroom who routinely get a free pass when it comes to anti-Jew hatred.

00:12:49.580 Keep in mind that Statistics Canada notes that while Jews make up 1% of Canada's population,

00:12:57.160 70% of all religiously motivated hate crimes today are aimed at Jews.

00:13:05.160 And what's being done to address off-the-charts anti-Semitism in this province?

00:13:11.900 Oh yeah, that's right.

00:13:13.200 The educrats are pushing anti-Palestinian racism that doesn't exist.

00:13:18.980 You know, isn't this akin to the city of New York post-9-11 commissioning a report on

00:13:24.120 Al-Qaeda bigotry in the Big Apple?

00:13:27.640 Incredible.

00:13:28.920 Well, I can tell you that many in the Jewish community are saying enough is enough.

00:13:34.780 On Monday, Mir Weinstein of Israel Now went down to the Sheridan Hotel in downtown Toronto

00:13:42.320 that was hosting the Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario conference.

00:13:48.540 He was there with others to take a stand against that ludicrous motion.

00:13:53.880 And the result?

00:13:55.080 Well, the educators first called security and then the police.

00:14:00.400 Mayor, I kind of felt like I was walking into the movie at the halfway point.

00:14:05.460 I saw this big commotion.

00:14:07.460 You have your allies here.

00:14:09.380 They were displaying signs.

00:14:11.280 Nothing, absolutely nothing hateful on those signs.

00:14:14.520 But it looked like the people here at the Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario

00:14:20.100 did not like your mere presence here.

00:14:24.120 And here we are, kicked to the curb.

00:14:26.000 Um, Mayor, first of all, their annual general meeting is taking place here.

00:14:32.160 For you and your friends here, what is the point of contention with the elementary school teachers?

00:14:38.340 The problem is that there is an element, a significant element, within the teachers' associations

00:14:44.900 who are here.

00:14:45.600 They want to present a motion that's vile, it's anti-Semitic, it's discriminatory against

00:14:53.980 Jewish teachers and Jewish students from the elementary schools.

00:14:58.620 It's unbelievable, from little, tiny kids.

00:15:01.260 And what is the nature of that motion, Mayor?

00:15:03.480 The motion is calling for the introduction of anti, they call it anti-Palestinian racism

00:15:09.620 to be adopted across the board in all Ontario elementary schools.

00:15:15.160 And in that mode, in that definition of anti-Palestinian racism, it says any, any element of support

00:15:23.800 for Israel, be it if you're wearing a Star of David, if you have a Israeli flag, anything

00:15:30.400 for Israel that a Jewish teacher has or a non-Jewish teacher has with them or a student has with

00:15:38.480 them, they have to be discriminated against because under that definition of anti-Palestinian 0.90

00:15:43.540 racism, they are the most racist people in all of Ontario. 0.75

00:15:49.220 This is incredible. 0.95

00:15:50.720 You're telling me that a Jewish teacher or perhaps even a Jewish student displaying a symbol

00:15:58.300 proclaiming their Jewishness, this would be verboten? 1.00

00:16:02.480 You'd have to say, in your example, you gave me, remove the Star of David?

00:16:06.840 That's what they want.

00:16:08.740 That's exactly what they want.

00:16:09.860 So what they're trying to introduce here is Hamas talking points. 0.64

00:16:13.980 And unfortunately, in the majority of Islamic countries, there's widespread discrimination

00:16:21.580 against Jews. 0.89

00:16:22.380 There's hardly any presence of Jewish communities in those Islamic or Arab countries because of

00:16:27.980 such vile anti-Semitism.

00:16:29.640 They want to bring it here into our Ontario schools.

00:16:32.980 So what was the result, you ask?

00:16:35.760 Well, I'm ashamed to say that the motion passed 480 to 193.

00:16:43.620 Yep, anti-Semitism is nothing, but anti-Palestinian racism, well, that's everything.

00:16:50.940 And as Meyer mentioned, how will anti-Palestinian racism measures be enacted?

00:16:58.700 Perhaps ordering a Jewish student to remove a Star of David pendant?

00:17:03.280 Telling a student to remove a shirt that has Israel written on it?

00:17:08.680 Well, we shall see.

00:17:10.580 Oh, and here is the really, really inconvenient truth regarding anti-Palestinian racism.

00:17:17.520 Like I said earlier, it simply does not exist.

00:17:22.020 Don't take my word for it, folks.

00:17:24.100 The Jewish Educators and Families Association recently filed an FOI request with the Toronto

00:17:32.460 District School Board.

00:17:34.540 JEFA was most curious about how many anti-Palestinian racism incidents occurred at TDSB schools.

00:17:45.160 And here is the answer they finally received in writing from Canada's biggest school board, quote,

00:17:55.360 There are no responsive records pertaining to reported incidents of anti-Palestinian racism

00:18:04.760 within TDSB, end quote.

00:18:08.240 Got that?

00:18:11.080 Zero point zero.

00:18:14.080 You know, I wonder what other anti-racism vanity projects, school boards, and teachers

00:18:20.320 unions will be pursuing in the future.

00:18:22.700 How about anti-Klingon racism?

00:18:25.720 How about anti-Asgardian bigotry?

00:18:29.540 And you know, I hear we have a big problem on our hands these days regarding discrimination

00:18:34.160 against hobbits visiting from Middle Earth.

00:18:37.560 But get this, the teachers at the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario general meeting

00:18:45.740 wouldn't accept their own data.

00:18:49.020 Check out this surreal discussion with a teacher that I had.

00:18:54.440 Don't know her name, but she had the pronouns she, her embroidered on her shirt. 0.98

00:19:00.140 So, yeah, I think that tells you all you need to know about her.

00:19:04.320 Why are there anti-Semitic motions on the table here at the...

00:19:08.380 What is the motion that you're feeling concerned about?

00:19:10.820 Well, why do you think these people are here with the Jewish community?

00:19:13.760 I'm asking you.

00:19:14.600 What is the motion that you are feeling concerned about?

00:19:17.500 We've heard that there are sanctions that want to be put in place regarding Jewish teachers

00:19:23.120 and Jewish students.

00:19:24.300 I don't think that's correct information.

00:19:26.020 So, I think you should get some informed about what you're protesting.

00:19:29.920 Okay.

00:19:30.160 What is the contentious motion then?

00:19:31.860 I'm not sure.

00:19:32.160 That's why I'm asking you.

00:19:33.440 You're an elementary teacher, right?

00:19:34.740 I am.

00:19:35.140 Okay.

00:19:35.620 Are you a she, her? 0.99

00:19:36.840 I am.

00:19:37.740 Oh, okay.

00:19:38.780 You never know these days.

00:19:40.460 So, wait a minute.

00:19:41.140 Ma'am, how many incidents of anti-Palestinian racism have been recorded?

00:19:45.800 I don't have the data for that.

00:19:47.700 The TDSB says zero, precisely zero.

00:19:50.300 Okay.

00:19:51.060 Okay.

00:19:51.560 Yeah.

00:19:51.720 How many incidents of anti-Semitism?

00:19:54.040 I've also said there in my space.

00:19:55.060 I don't mean to interrupt anything, right?

00:19:56.680 I just, a little bit to love folks.

00:19:57.760 That's it.

00:19:58.160 Just for us.

00:19:59.240 Why are you obsessed with anti-Palestinian racism?

00:20:03.440 So, it's not an obsession.

00:20:05.140 We are educators who are protecting all students in the system.

00:20:08.920 There's education that protects queer and trans students.

00:20:13.000 Education and curriculum it supports and protects black and racialized families.

00:20:18.440 By the way, how do queer and trans people do in Gaza?

00:20:23.120 I can't answer that question.

00:20:26.200 I'm not informed.

00:20:27.460 Oh, really?

00:20:27.840 Okay.

00:20:28.160 They're actually killed.

00:20:29.500 They are thrown from a rooftop.

00:20:31.200 Okay.

00:20:31.840 Okay.

00:20:33.780 So, it's important to protect students who are coming from these places.

00:20:39.640 Which places?

00:20:40.280 I mean, any places where harm and violence is happening, right?

00:20:44.580 Okay, then.

00:20:45.620 But you're concerned about so-called anti-Palestinian racism.

00:20:49.540 We find no record of that existing.

00:20:51.360 So, do you really believe that people who are Palestinian aren't experiencing racism? 1.00

00:20:57.000 Well, that's what the stats say.

00:20:58.220 No, but do you believe that in your heart?

00:21:00.060 I see every Sunday morning, ma'am, chants for genocide, the display of swastikas, people

00:21:07.260 cosplaying as sinwar.

00:21:09.160 That's anti-Semitism.

00:21:10.980 But do you really believe that?

00:21:12.180 And who's doing it?

00:21:12.980 I have no idea.

00:21:14.400 Really?

00:21:14.840 You should go to Shepherd and Bathurst at 11 a.m. every Sunday.

00:21:17.740 Do you believe that Palestinian folks are not experiencing racism? 1.00

00:21:22.600 I have not seen that recorded.

00:21:23.980 You could argue that this demonstration is an example.

00:21:26.940 I mean, it's intimidating.

00:21:28.440 It's intense.

00:21:29.460 Oh, so this is an anti-Palestinian demonstration?

00:21:32.140 It feels like it, yeah.

00:21:33.460 Oh, how so?

00:21:34.340 It definitely feels misinformed.

00:21:35.800 You know, aren't these teachers and educrats utterly amazing?

00:21:39.620 On one hand, they dismiss their own data.

00:21:42.240 On the other hand, they come up with solutions to problems that don't exist.

00:21:49.140 And by the way, it's not just the teachers unions and the school boards.

00:21:54.260 Other institutions are joining the dogpile.

00:21:58.280 Recently, Blacklock's reporter acquired a 2023 letter from George Ackie, the CBC's director

00:22:07.020 of journalism standards.

00:22:08.800 In the memo, George explains why it is verboten for the state broadcaster to call Hamas terrorists.

00:22:16.760 Terrorists?

00:22:17.660 His reason?

00:22:19.320 Well, the T word is too highly politicized and reflects a certain narrative.

00:22:26.760 You know, isn't that akin to not calling Paul Bernardo a serial killer?

00:22:31.940 We wouldn't want to reflect a certain narrative about that guy, would we?

00:22:37.240 Certainly, the public broadcaster is in line with their sugar daddy, Prime Minister Mark Carney,

00:22:43.700 who announced two weeks ago that Canada would indeed recognize Palestinian statehood, thereby

00:22:50.060 rewarding bloodthirsty terrorists.

00:22:53.500 Oh, and get this.

00:22:54.880 The Toronto International Film Festival just announced this week that it had cancelled its

00:23:00.980 invitation to screen a documentary about the October 7th, 2023 Hamas attacks.

00:23:09.240 Oh, it's not freedom of speech, folks.

00:23:11.140 No, nothing like that.

00:23:12.220 You see, it's a copyright issue.

00:23:15.100 The filmmaker did not receive permission from the Hamas terrorists whose clips are featured

00:23:21.920 in the film.

00:23:22.820 And no, I'm not making this up.

00:23:24.700 And just think about this.

00:23:25.760 If we had a World War II documentary and it showed Auschwitz, would we need to reach out

00:23:32.460 to the Nazis to get their permission to show concentration camp victims?

00:23:38.700 Utterly disgraceful. 0.98

00:23:40.260 What a coward that runs the Toronto International Film Festival. 0.94

00:23:44.900 And it's even more shameful for the fact, folks, that it is propped up by taxpayer dollars. 0.99

00:23:51.240 Disgusting. 0.61

00:23:52.500 Bottom line, slowly, ever so slowly, the line moves. 0.99

00:24:00.680 Canada is no longer a completely safe haven for Jews anymore, as various institutions, from

00:24:07.840 schools, to teachers' unions, to the federal government, to film festivals, bend the knee

00:24:15.220 to the violence-prone Hamasos.

00:24:18.980 You know, I wasn't around in Germany in the 1930s.

00:24:23.080 But was this how it all began in the early days of what would become the Holocaust?

00:24:29.840 Is this what German Jews experienced in Frankfurt and Berlin and Cologne, as one by one, their

00:24:37.800 rights were curtailed until they were eventually deemed subhuman and then loaded upon cattle

00:24:46.020 cars?

00:24:47.360 It sure seems that way to me.

00:24:55.880 Hey, folks, I know how it is these days.

00:24:58.060 Even in the summertime, our lives are so busy.

00:25:00.960 And that means a lot of you don't get the opportunity to tune into the live stream that

00:25:07.040 happens every day at one o'clock Eastern Standard Time.

00:25:11.240 And today, well, we had a real humdinger of a panel discussion co-hosted by my beloved

00:25:16.960 colleagues.

00:25:17.560 That would be Sheila Gunn-Reed and Lise Merle.

00:25:21.260 And they had on their show as guests, convoy lawyer Keith Wilson and political commentator

00:25:28.180 Michael Kouros.

00:25:30.260 Enjoy.

00:25:30.860 Enjoy.

00:25:31.040 Let's get into the canola tariffs.

00:25:39.500 So it was announced that China, on top of their 100% tariffs on Canadian canola, are now

00:25:49.100 adding an anti-dumping tariff on top of that.

00:25:54.520 You can call it whatever you want, but it's just another tariff on top of a tariff.

00:25:57.800 And all of this is in response to the insane protectionist policies of the Trudeau government,

00:26:05.300 now the Carney government, continuing it on by tariffing inbound electric vehicles from

00:26:12.220 China to protect the highly subsidized electric vehicle manufacturing industry in Ontario and

00:26:18.020 Quebec.

00:26:18.520 And here it is, Canadian farmers in the West paying the price for these policies.

00:26:23.340 But we saw Scott Moe yesterday come out and make a statement.

00:26:30.300 And he calls it what it is.

00:26:32.320 You know, he pins the blame on the protectionist policies on these electric vehicles that absolutely

00:26:39.300 nobody wants.

00:26:40.440 So let's listen to Scott Moe and then we'll get some reaction from the gentleman and Lise.

00:26:44.620 I'm extremely disappointed with respect to the decision that the country of China has

00:26:51.440 made in further increasing their temporary tariffs on our canola seeds, which will add

00:26:57.500 to the existing tariffs on canola oil and oil.

00:27:00.380 This is a response to the government's tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, largely.

00:27:04.580 And China's decision to impose preliminary anti-dumping duties or what we would call temporary tariffs

00:27:11.440 is set at 75.8%.

00:27:14.300 That's on Canadian canola seed as of August the 14th, this Thursday.

00:27:18.820 And that will have a devastating impact on the price points for Saskatchewan's canola industry

00:27:24.100 and I would say ultimately Saskatchewan's egg producers.

00:27:27.560 So let me be clear that this hit will stop a significant amount of trade that is flowing

00:27:35.220 into China today.

00:27:37.200 This comes on top of the decision that China made in March this year to impose 100% tariffs

00:27:42.880 on Canadian canola oil, canola meal, as well as the imports and add to that some pork and

00:27:48.440 seafood exports as well.

00:27:50.520 Beijing has also announced an anti-dumping probe for Canadian imports of pea starch, of which

00:27:55.160 they will be working on in the weeks and months into the future.

00:27:59.120 That is another potential impact for Western Canadian egg producers that we just simply

00:28:05.120 can't withstand at this moment.

00:28:06.980 This announcement, and I would say that the timing of this announcement, is in particularly

00:28:10.620 hard on our egg producers in this province and across Canada, as they are hard at work

00:28:15.380 starting their harvest procedures and getting their harvest underway.

00:28:20.460 We've estimated about 12 million acres of canola seeded in Saskatchewan just this year.

00:28:25.160 And the Canadian canola industry is about $43 to $45 billion each and every year.

00:28:31.320 That is responsible, that industry, for over 200,000 jobs, Canadian jobs.

00:28:36.560 And with China accounting for about a third of our exports, the United States of America

00:28:42.220 would be about 40% of said exports.

00:28:45.460 They total about $5 billion.

00:28:47.960 China's exports total about $5 billion annually.

00:28:51.100 Much of that coming from our province of Saskatchewan.

00:28:53.320 To put this in context, this $43 to $45 billion canola industry, Canadian canola industry that

00:29:01.060 we have employing just over 200,000 people, that is significantly larger than the steel

00:29:07.080 industry, the aluminum industry, and the car manufacturing industry combined.

00:29:11.620 It's about the same size as the Canadian forestry industry, of which we saw significant supports

00:29:16.600 for just this past week.

00:29:19.540 Each of those industries, the steel, the aluminum, and the EV industry, have also been hit hard

00:29:23.900 by U.S. tariffs, as has our forestry industry been hit hard by U.S. tariffs.

00:29:28.700 But canola producers hit with these, Chinese tariffs, I would say that they deserve the same attention

00:29:34.580 by our federal government and our prime minister, as we're seeing in other industries.

00:29:38.700 And we are asking that this be dealt with immediately.

00:29:41.460 And I've reached out to the prime minister this morning, and I expect I'll be speaking

00:29:44.680 with him at some point later today.

00:29:46.900 As has our agriculture minister reached out to his common part, and our trade minister

00:29:50.440 talking to his common part, we've been asking our federal government, and Prime Minister

00:29:56.680 Carney, to engage at the highest level since the federal election.

00:29:59.860 And for over a year now, we've been asking, or about a year, we've been asking the federal

00:30:03.680 government to engage with China and start the advancement of those conversations to find

00:30:09.420 our way to a solid and secure trade environment moving forward.

00:30:14.680 The prime minister, in fairness, has started those conversations, meeting with the prime minister

00:30:19.220 of China, and I would say, most certainly now, that the next step is for the prime minister

00:30:24.960 to meet with the president of China, and I'll be expressing the urgency and the need for

00:30:30.880 that meeting to happen when we talk at the next opportunity.

00:30:35.040 We need immediate action on this file.

00:30:37.020 This is a significant Canadian industry, as I say, about comparable in size to the Canadian

00:30:41.620 forestry industry, and much larger than the steel, aluminum, and EV industry combined.

00:30:46.620 We are engaging with every opportunity that we have.

00:30:51.460 We are engaging at all levels, with ministers engaging with their counterparts, not only in

00:30:56.880 the federal government, but in provinces across Canada.

00:31:01.080 We have meetings planned with Chinese representatives for later this week, and we've been actively

00:31:06.060 engaged on this issue since before even these tariffs were announced, and even prior to the

00:31:11.780 tariffs on canola oil and oil, which were announced this spring.

00:31:15.940 I would say this.

00:31:19.280 We are faced not only in Saskatchewan, but in Canada and many countries around the world

00:31:23.520 in an ever-changing geopolitical environment.

00:31:26.640 Our trade relationships around the world are very, very fluid, and they're changing by the

00:31:33.700 day in some cases.

00:31:35.100 And so collectively, I would say that we as Canadians, we need to very much focus on taking care

00:31:40.260 of Canadians at every level of government.

00:31:43.600 We as Canadians also, and I would say that our federal government cannot sacrifice a $43 billion

00:31:50.160 cannola industry, 200,000 jobs in that industry, that is largely based in France and Western

00:31:56.360 Canada, to protect a pledging electric vehicle industry, largely based in Eastern Canada.

00:32:03.220 I will go to Michael first.

00:32:09.100 Michael, I'm very grateful that Scott Mo pointed out the treatment of the steel industry and the

00:32:19.140 automakers and even the forestry industry in comparison to the federal government's reaction

00:32:24.980 to 200,000 jobs and a $43 to $45 billion made-in-Canada industry.

00:32:33.740 It's really clear that they just don't care about the West as much as they do the East.

00:32:38.640 Well, here's where I would take issue with that, because yesterday, the Emergency Management

00:32:44.900 Minister, Eleanor Alczewski, came to Saskatoon and announced $4.2 million in funding directed

00:32:57.800 to the Prairie Economic Development of Canada, and that'll create 30 jobs.

00:33:02.220 Oh, okay.

00:33:02.820 So you can't see what I'm doing.

00:33:04.280 That's cash money.

00:33:05.820 That's cash.

00:33:06.260 That's $4.2 million.

00:33:06.940 Now, mind you, the canola is $43 billion, but it's a good start.

00:33:15.440 Oh, for Pete's sakes.

00:33:16.660 They actually came into Saskatchewan and announced this yesterday, $4.2 million to our agricultural

00:33:23.000 sector.

00:33:24.780 Unfortunately, here's what I think about the liberals that are in charge of this.

00:33:29.340 Besides the fact that basically, if they were smart at all, not smart at all, but I can see

00:33:35.900 an announcement coming from them that basically they would actually get Chinese-operated combines

00:33:40.220 that would be electric, and then basically the Chinese would take the canola tariffs off

00:33:45.020 if we could actually get that set up.

00:33:46.880 Huh.

00:33:48.000 Yeah, that would not work.

00:33:49.920 Interesting.

00:33:50.240 But the reality is, my fear is either the feds don't know what they're doing, or they know

00:33:55.900 exactly what they're doing.

00:33:57.400 And at this point, I don't know which one it is.

00:33:59.680 Now, Keith, this is the sort of thing that just fuels Western separation sentiments.

00:34:07.260 It just causes it to boil. 0.57

00:34:09.220 This makes separatists every single day.

00:34:11.940 And let me be clear, as a farmer and someone who has been a canola farmer in the past, you

00:34:21.960 know, with tariffs and Justin Trudeau prancing through India that sort of put a damper on

00:34:27.580 my desire to be a canola farmer.

00:34:29.660 But even people who are, you know, identify themselves as Canadians, they see this and they

00:34:36.580 say, this is inarguable.

00:34:38.480 Um, they just don't care about the West and they're willing to punish the West so that 0.69

00:34:45.360 they can help out, uh, Eastern industries that are failing.

00:34:50.860 Well, first of all, you know, giving, uh, $4.2 million from government doesn't create jobs.

00:34:58.520 It doesn't create markets.

00:34:59.880 No.

00:35:00.360 Uh, it's insulting.

00:35:02.520 Um, I'm sure the folks in Ontario and the Liberal government don't understand that a new

00:35:07.240 combine costs $1.2 million.

00:35:10.500 Right.

00:35:10.840 So this is like absolute peanuts.

00:35:12.860 This doesn't even begin to shadow the operating costs for one farm in Alberta or Saskatchewan

00:35:19.860 that's planting canola. 0.96

00:35:20.980 This is just pure nonsense.

00:35:22.480 But more importantly, it just reminds us of what, um, the Liberals in Ottawa and in particularly

00:35:31.340 Central and Eastern Canada that keep the voters that keep putting them in power, they're absolutely

00:35:37.540 clear on what the role is of Albertans and Saskatchewan.

00:35:43.500 And that is we are to work hard and provide them with the fruits of our labor through equalization

00:35:50.700 payments and sending all kinds of money to Ottawa so they can sprinkle it in other places

00:35:55.560 and around the world on, on crazy ideas.

00:35:59.100 And, um, if an industry has to take a hit, uh, because of, uh, global affairs and world

00:36:06.800 trade dynamics, then it's obvious.

00:36:09.120 It's not the industries, the cherished automotive industry in Central Canada that's going to

00:36:13.920 take a hit.

00:36:14.480 It's not the steel and aluminum industries, not even the forestry industry.

00:36:18.200 It's going to be those pesky farmers out on the prairies that will just, there are mop, 0.97

00:36:24.780 we'll use them to mop up.

00:36:26.360 So this is just yet another, imagine on the positive side, the trade deal that an independent 1.00

00:36:32.860 country of Alberta or an independent country of Saskatchewan could be negotiating with China

00:36:36.940 right now, instead of us being victimized and economically harmed by the ideological extremists

00:36:43.100 in Ottawa.

00:36:44.400 Yeah.

00:36:44.880 And when we look at, you know, I'm glad you brought up trade deals because the liberals

00:36:50.020 seem hell bent on destroying the relationship with the Americans over supply management to

00:36:57.300 protect Quebec farmers and Ontario farmers, but Western farmers, we are just sacrifices on 0.71

00:37:03.620 the altar of whatever green reset they have planned with these unusable electric cars.

00:37:11.080 Lise?

00:37:11.240 No, I'm so happy we're talking about this, this topic today.

00:37:16.160 Mike might remember that the only time I ever cried, actually cried on the radio was over

00:37:22.500 canola exports.

00:37:24.140 Mike, it was about 10 years ago.

00:37:26.160 We were talking about this exact same issue, Chinese tariffs being imposed on our canola producers

00:37:32.600 in Western Canada.

00:37:33.420 And I cried.

00:37:34.700 And then my phone blew up with 75 people asking me if I was okay.

00:37:39.000 And I said, I'm fine, but it's just so overwhelming.

00:37:41.660 But all of this to say that we've been at this for 10 solid years.

00:37:47.080 The farmers of Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Alberta, and in some places, BC, have been under the

00:37:52.820 thumb of an unreliable, we'll say trade partner.

00:37:57.440 A relationship that has been absolutely fumbled by the federal government.

00:38:02.620 In 10 years, the federal government couldn't solve this problem.

00:38:05.980 So, Keith, I like something that you said.

00:38:07.720 Could you imagine where Saskatchewan and Alberta would be if we were negotiating our own trade

00:38:12.920 contracts with China?

00:38:14.720 Well, isn't it funny?

00:38:17.060 Carla Beck, the leader of the NDP, just yesterday said, Scott Moe, why aren't you on a plane

00:38:21.780 going to China to negotiate trade contracts?

00:38:25.000 And I say, yes, Carla, this is the energy that we want.

00:38:29.480 Yes, we should be negotiating our own trade agreements with countries that the federal government

00:38:38.180 just can't keep a handle on.

00:38:39.840 Yes, we should.

00:38:40.440 Uh, let's go, I'm glad you brought up the NDP.

00:38:43.220 Let's go to, uh, Manitoba's NDP Premier, Wabkanu, who, while I disagree with him on a

00:38:49.800 great many things, like a great many things, he seems to be the least crazy of all the NDP.

00:38:55.740 Now that, I mean, the bar is quite low there.

00:38:58.620 Um, but he does put a number on what vaporized from the canola industry, uh, in just one day.

00:39:06.260 And let's continue to point out that these are retaliatory tariffs from China to Justin Trudeau

00:39:14.700 and now Mark Carney's tariffs on their electric vehicles.

00:39:20.320 Chinese tariffs on canola cost Western Canada a billion dollars today, and it could cost us more

00:39:27.640 later this week.

00:39:28.940 These 75% tariffs on our canola from China are causing damage at this important time of year.

00:39:36.820 We've been standing up for farmers.

00:39:38.860 Now we need to see the federal government offer that same sort of support that they've shown

00:39:43.100 for steel and auto and lumber.

00:39:46.780 Let's help our farmers. 0.96

00:39:48.360 Let's help Canada.

00:39:49.180 Okay, my concern is, though, that that came out of the mouth of an NDP-er, Michael, which

00:39:55.220 means when they say support, they don't mean going to China, sorting this out and stopping

00:39:59.860 the tariffs on electric vehicles.

00:40:01.820 They mean handouts.

00:40:03.420 And farmers don't want handouts. 0.88

00:40:05.300 We want the federal government out of the way.

00:40:07.560 Yeah, you nailed that.

00:40:08.380 The reality is this support, support to left-wing politicians is new ways of finding welfare.

00:40:14.760 Well, basically, some of the most independent people in the world are basically Saskatchewan,

00:40:19.560 Alberta, Western Canadian farmers.

00:40:21.220 They don't want handouts.

00:40:22.400 They want somebody to go and fix the problem so they can do the work.

00:40:26.380 And that's not happening here.

00:40:27.860 And that's sort of the ethos of basically the East.

00:40:31.080 You know, we'll just, it will make you happy.

00:40:32.820 We'll placate you.

00:40:33.540 We'll throw some more government money at you, and that'll make you happy.

00:40:36.860 Well, that doesn't make anybody happy.

00:40:38.320 And by the way, Mark Carney is basically, he's got a kind of a week schedule this week.

00:40:44.340 Um, there's one world leader he's speaking to, and that's Zelensky.

00:40:49.940 He's not even talking to anybody, basically, in China.

00:40:53.620 He's talking to Zelensky because Trump and Putin are actually trying to get this Ukrainian,

00:40:59.740 basically, this war over.

00:41:02.040 And Carney's got to be in there because that's what the big, that's what will give him some

00:41:07.020 street cred amongst politicals in the world.

00:41:09.980 That he's got to be in there.

00:41:11.200 He has nothing to offer, nothing at all to offer.

00:41:13.440 Right?

00:41:14.600 So basically, why isn't he working with President Xi in China to make sure that this thing happens?

00:41:19.960 He doesn't, he's pointed in the wrong direction.

00:41:22.820 Yeah.

00:41:23.660 Yeah.

00:41:24.720 Keith, you know, my concern is they're just going to say, oh, Western Canadian farmers,

00:41:30.520 here's a bunch of money to change the headers on your combines.

00:41:33.100 Go do something else.

00:41:34.480 And, you know, you know, this is, and we pointed out yesterday on the show, there's no more,

00:41:40.060 uh, Western Canadian or a Canadian produce than canola.

00:41:45.440 It was developed here to grow here in our climate.

00:41:48.600 Um, it is so much so that it has to be swathed to ripen because of our short growing seasons.

00:41:54.380 It's made for our soil conditions.

00:41:56.220 And yet all the elbows up by Canadian people, they're missing an action on this. 0.87

00:42:01.820 They don't care whatsoever.

00:42:03.300 They don't care.

00:42:04.780 Yeah.

00:42:05.220 Well, what, what a lot of people may not understand outside of agriculture is that

00:42:09.600 for most farms that produce grains, um, canola is their most profitable crop.

00:42:16.200 Yep.

00:42:16.480 And like an order of magnitude, it's way more profitable than wheat and barley, um, and other

00:42:22.560 commonly produced crops so much so that farmers produce it in a crop rotation as tight as possible

00:42:28.140 to maximize the revenue to stay viable.

00:42:31.540 But, you know, I think what we're seeing here is a domino effect, you know, and, and it comes

00:42:37.100 right back to the ideological extremist of the Trudeau liberals.

00:42:42.140 And now we see the Kearney liberals, which is there is no sacrifice too great, particularly

00:42:49.220 for Saskatchewan and Alberta to endure, to promote their obsession with climate alarmism.

00:42:57.780 And what they see is their opportunity to reshape us away from a free market economy, you know,

00:43:04.640 based on individualism, rights, markets, and so on to one of state control because we have

00:43:11.220 an emergency, um, the reason this canola situation is now upon us is directly related as we've

00:43:19.560 been talking about to the EV mandate, which is a direct result of their obsession over,

00:43:26.380 um, uh, their creation of a climate crisis.

00:43:30.500 So, um, you know, we're not, things aren't getting better.

00:43:34.920 I wasn't sure when Kearney was campaigning as to, he was trying to portray himself as a

00:43:38.740 pragmatist and I thought maybe he's changed.

00:43:41.560 Maybe he's not the Kearney of the book of values because it's pretty clear what that's

00:43:46.360 about.

00:43:46.780 It's an environmental socialism, but, uh, we're now it's becoming increasingly clear and

00:43:52.460 you know, I'm not convinced, uh, I'm increasingly suspicious that his antagonism of the United

00:44:01.700 States, our closest and largest trading partner.

00:44:05.300 People don't understand I've done work with the agricultural industry, trying to create

00:44:09.180 access, get access to foreign markets.

00:44:11.320 And one of the huge liabilities we have is distance shipping costs.

00:44:14.640 The margins are so small that you can't compete once you get land, your product.

00:44:19.300 So to have this massive market right beside us is so valuable.

00:44:24.580 I'm wondering if he's doing the Venezuelan trick, Kearney is, of using antagonizing the relationship 0.97

00:44:32.840 with the United States and to some extent others so that it can mask and he can camouflage

00:44:38.600 his economic failures say, you know, Oh, we would be doing great if it wasn't for orange

00:44:43.980 man, bad.

00:44:45.180 You know what?

00:44:45.940 We saw that during the campaign, the liberals couldn't campaign on their own record.

00:44:50.460 Mark Carney couldn't campaign on his own record because the liberals record was his.

00:44:54.200 Um, and so they relied on privy council research that they only had access to, by the way, to

00:45:01.920 craft a campaign of anti-Americanism.

00:45:04.300 The whole elbows up thing was based on privy council research that only the liberals had

00:45:08.700 access to.

00:45:10.140 Um, and I think we're just seeing a continuation of that because, um, we're in a housing crisis,

00:45:16.940 we're in a healthcare crisis, we're in an inflation crisis, we're in a debt crisis, we're in a crime

00:45:22.040 crisis, and the only thing the liberals can point to is the Americans because, you know,

00:45:28.960 I, I hope the liberals find who's been in charge for the last 10 years that created all

00:45:32.700 these problems.

00:45:33.720 Lise?

00:45:34.860 No, um, going back to, going back to Wob Canoe standing in a canola field, wasn't it Coulter

00:45:40.980 Wall that said the devil wears a suit and tie?

00:45:43.980 I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure that that's, uh, Wob Canoe was who he was referring to in

00:45:49.320 that moment because in terms of trustworthiness, would you trust a man in a suit and tie in

00:45:54.460 the middle of a canola field talking to you?

00:45:56.300 I would not.

00:45:57.640 Wob Canoe, I would not.

00:45:59.160 But, um, further, further to how this is impacting some of these green or sustainable or net zero

00:46:06.960 initiatives are going to, are going to impact our, uh, ag industry in Canada is that even

00:46:13.380 though the, the consumer carbon tax has been sort of suspended for the moment, that doesn't

00:46:18.780 apply to industry.

00:46:20.340 And in Western Canada, this means the ag industry.

00:46:25.920 And, and we must not underestimate the naked contempt that Ottawa or Eastern elites have

00:46:34.180 for our Western farmers.

00:46:36.700 Okay.

00:46:36.900 They don't care.

00:46:38.060 They've shown us over and over again that they don't care.

00:46:42.040 And, um, and there is no, there is no price too big to pay for them.

00:46:46.980 They, it's true.

00:46:48.440 It's absolutely true.

00:46:49.700 So unless the feds immediately, uh, stand up for our Western ag producers, like they are

00:46:57.440 for, um, for potential uranium development, like, let me see that same energy that's going

00:47:03.240 into excitement by the feds on uranium development in Saskatchewan for our ag producers.

00:47:09.180 And then, and then I'll start taking them seriously, but no, it looks like we're on our

00:47:13.360 own in Western Canada.

00:47:14.620 We're on our own.

00:47:15.760 Yeah.

00:47:16.460 And further to, um, you know, Wab Canu pointing out that it's a billion dollars in one day,

00:47:21.460 just vaporized from the industry.

00:47:23.040 And nobody seems to have any sort of sense of urgency on it.

00:47:27.200 Uh, Daniel Smith points out that China is Canada's second largest agricultural export

00:47:33.240 market worth 2.4 billion last year.

00:47:36.040 And they take in nearly 70% of Alberta's canola.

00:47:39.540 So this is particularly devastating for Alberta's farmers, just as they're about to swath.

00:47:46.620 Um, she, and she points out where the, where, who's responsible for this mess. 0.99

00:47:51.580 Uh, these tariffs are in response to the federal government's imposition of a hundred percent

00:47:55.960 tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles and 25% on steel and aluminum.

00:48:00.240 So again, Alberta farmers are paying the price for protectionist policies, uh, to save Ontario

00:48:06.360 jobs and nobody seems to care.

00:48:08.940 Um, and.

00:48:10.340 So Sheila, so Sheila, I'll have a comment on that.

00:48:12.800 Please.

00:48:13.560 The responsibility is, is basically the provincial governments here as well.

00:48:17.020 And I'll tell you why.

00:48:18.300 Okay.

00:48:18.500 I make it a rule in my client files, never to have a client that exceeds a certain percentage

00:48:25.300 of revenue per year.

00:48:26.900 Yeah.

00:48:27.540 If we've got 70% of our canola going to China, we have not done a great job.

00:48:33.640 At diversifying.

00:48:35.100 Right.

00:48:35.660 At diversifying.

00:48:36.640 Because we're dealing with people that are potentially very dangerous and crazy.

00:48:41.220 Right.

00:48:41.800 Right.

00:48:42.080 Now, same could be said about the U S but the thing is, the U S is a capitalist economy

00:48:47.280 still, and it will remain that way.

00:48:50.100 But if we're actually doing 70% of our trade with China, the problem is that we haven't

00:48:55.020 diversified enough to other countries or other jurisdictions to get our product so that when

00:48:59.200 they do something inevitably crazy and they will, we say, yep, that's going to hurt.

00:49:03.800 But our product are going to other places as well.

00:49:06.940 So I, that lies on the provincial government.

00:49:10.940 It lies also in the feds and everything that you've said about the feds.

00:49:14.160 And then Keith, I think you're absolutely right on this idea that Carney does not know how

00:49:20.340 to deal with Trump.

00:49:22.480 And as long as he can make Trump orange man bad, that basically that's his, that's his 0.71

00:49:27.880 entire political posturing.

00:49:30.300 That's, that's what it is.

00:49:33.000 Unfortunately, things are going pretty well for the people in the States right now.

00:49:35.860 And when will it be that Canadians actually catch on to the fact that they're doing okay

00:49:40.300 there right now, right?

00:49:42.520 So unless you're, unless you're there illegally, if you're there illegally, it's not that bad

00:49:47.340 in the U S.

00:49:48.680 So I think that part of, part of the blame lines that there hasn't been foresight in

00:49:53.540 governments that diversify economy enough with enough players.

00:49:57.080 And of course, the biggest, the majority of the blame lies with Carney, who doesn't seem

00:50:02.300 like he's interested in fixing this at all.

00:50:04.600 Yeah.

00:50:04.980 Keith, go ahead.

00:50:05.860 Sure.

00:50:07.640 I mean, that's easier said than done.

00:50:09.120 And I take your point.

00:50:11.000 But for example, in the European union, they've put restrictions on what you're allowed to

00:50:18.900 import in terms of canola and other grain products that are really not restrictions based

00:50:25.280 on any substantive ground, but ones to prevent the method of production here in Alberta or

00:50:30.540 in Canada from having access.

00:50:32.520 So it's, it's very difficult to get access to markets.

00:50:35.460 Um, it's, it's a, it's a decades long process.

00:50:38.700 Uh, that's why when Carney talks about, we're just going to create new trading partners,

00:50:42.540 like what is the, is the, if we're going to, if we're going to sell more soap to, to Belgium

00:50:49.060 or all the companies going to say, Oh, geez, you guys want in?

00:50:51.980 We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll take some product off the shelves for you. 0.70

00:50:55.200 No, it's just ridiculously naive.

00:50:58.680 It's dangerous.

00:50:59.860 And everything this guy keeps doing, I've said to a few people recently that I think

00:51:05.700 independence is going to actually happen.

00:51:08.600 And there's going to be a really clear explanation as to why Alberta and Saskatchewan will become

00:51:14.900 independent.

00:51:15.380 And the answer will be Mark Carney.

00:51:17.740 He is going to deliver independence.

00:51:20.560 And I understand, I understand what you're saying about this taking decades, decades.

00:51:24.380 The Saskatchewan party has been in power in Saskatchewan for 17 years.

00:51:29.620 Right.

00:51:30.200 For the most parts, the conservatives, right.

00:51:33.060 Or the basically whatever the conservatives are in the, in Alberta right now, I've been

00:51:38.200 in power for the majority of the last 70 years.

00:51:41.600 So the thing is, yep, you're right.

00:51:44.300 You know, it's the old oak tree thing.

00:51:46.120 You cut down an oak tree.

00:51:46.940 The best time is to do it 25 years ago.

00:51:48.840 The next best time is now you're right.

00:51:51.120 These trade partnerships are very complex, but not nearly as complex as a trade partner

00:51:55.200 saying you're cut off.

00:51:56.980 You know, we're not buying anything more or putting a big trade.

00:51:59.740 So no matter what you do, it's going to be hard.

00:52:01.980 But the lack of foresight of these governments not doing this 10, 20 years ago is why we're

00:52:08.640 suffering today.

00:52:09.920 Yeah.

00:52:10.120 And I guess, I guess the same could be said about failing to get a pipeline to Tidewater,

00:52:16.300 like an actual pipeline to Tidewater.

00:52:19.500 One last topic on our Western panel before we hit an ad break.

00:52:24.020 I know we're up against the middle of the hour already, but I want to get to this one.

00:52:27.600 Video from Pierre Polyev.

00:52:29.220 I think doing his best to lean into the separatist sentiment, but I think he is, he's already

00:52:39.360 missed the boat on that.

00:52:40.380 I think that parade is marching and he's not in front of it, but he's introducing the Canadian

00:52:46.460 Sovereignty Act.

00:52:48.000 So let's hear what that entails.

00:52:51.320 The Sovereignty Act will legalize pipeline and other major projects by repealing the

00:53:05.980 anti-development law C-69.

00:53:08.280 It will legalize shipping Canadian energy off the northwest coast of BC by repealing C-48.

00:53:14.440 It will axe the industrial carbon tax, something the Europeans are doing, and given that our

00:53:20.640 competitors in America have no industrial carbon tax, it is untenable to force our people and

00:53:26.700 our industries to pay this tax.

00:53:28.780 We will get rid of the oil and gas cap that kills jobs.

00:53:32.000 We will get rid of the ban on plastics, the petrochemical industry that produces our plastics.

00:53:37.820 The plastics themselves are essential, and so are the jobs that go along with it.

00:53:42.380 This, by the way, this plastics ban is not about, you know, it's just saving your straw.

00:53:47.340 It's about saving you about $400 or $500 a year in food that would otherwise go bad because

00:53:53.440 it would not have plastic to preserve it.

00:53:55.960 And we have a wonderful Alberta-based petrochemical sector that contributes to plastics that we need

00:54:01.240 to protect.

00:54:01.840 We'll get rid of liberal censorship laws that prevent our energy companies from talking about

00:54:06.140 their incredible achievements and their environmental stewardship.

00:54:10.360 We will legalize into the future your right to drive a gas or diesel-powered truck or car

00:54:15.880 by repealing the liberal EV mandate.

00:54:19.980 All of this will be in one bill.

00:54:22.100 Next, we're going to reward those who build.

00:54:24.360 We'll get rid of the capital gains tax when you reinvest your proceeds here in Canada.

00:54:29.120 This will cause a boom in Canadian investment.

00:54:32.560 Here in Canada, we get about half the investment per worker, as they do in the United States

00:54:37.580 of America.

00:54:38.640 We get about $14,000, $15,000 of investment per worker in Canada.

00:54:42.460 In the States, it's $28,000, both measured in U.S. dollars.

00:54:46.460 No wonder that the American economy is leaving us behind.

00:54:49.240 We need to reward investment by letting people who sell one asset and reinvest the money in

00:54:54.240 Canada do so without capital gains tax.

00:54:57.320 We will give free trade bonuses to the provinces, paying them the economic benefit that results

00:55:03.040 from them opening their markets to fellow Canadians.

00:55:05.520 We'll protect innovation by requiring in this law that the minister do a review and present

00:55:10.840 a plan to stop the mass sell-off of Canadian inventions, discoveries, and innovations.

00:55:17.620 We pay for all these incredible technological breakthroughs in Canada, often with tax dollars that subsidize

00:55:23.280 it at university research and elsewhere, and then it's sold off to the Americans.

00:55:29.500 And we become dependent on them for the technology that we ourselves invented.

00:55:34.820 Finally, outside of the bill, we are making a call to action.

00:55:39.020 Today, Conservatives are calling on Prime Minister Carty to have pipeline construction underway

00:55:44.540 for at least two projects and to have at least one new natural gas liquefaction project and

00:55:52.960 a road to the ring of fire in Ontario under construction by the first anniversary of him taking office.

00:56:01.140 The Prime Minister can and must do this, and he can do it by consulting First Nations as required

00:56:06.780 under Section 35 of the Constitution.

00:56:09.840 Okay, I'm going to go to Keith first here.

00:56:13.940 It sounds to me like the Canadian Sovereignty Act is just the Conservative Party platform

00:56:17.920 put into law, and it was rejected by the people who decided the election outcome in Ontario once already.

00:56:27.880 But then he ends with, you know, we need to have pipeline projects underway.

00:56:33.140 Here's the problem.

00:56:34.740 No company wants to build them.

00:56:36.180 There are no proposed pipeline projects, West East pipeline projects right now, because

00:56:41.300 the Liberals are in power and these pipeline companies are not going to invest millions

00:56:47.040 and billions of dollars into something that will die on the vine like Energy East, like

00:56:53.000 Northern Gateway, and in no small part, just the saga of Keystone XL.

00:57:00.120 Well, I think they want to build them, but they don't want to go on a fool's errand.

00:57:06.260 Right.

00:57:07.180 And they know that, and I know that you meant, Sheila, I'm not trying to be unfair.

00:57:10.900 No, no, no.

00:57:11.600 Is that, you know, I feel sorry for Pierre Polyev.

00:57:16.800 Me too.

00:57:17.620 Because the reality is Canada's done.

00:57:21.340 And the reason I say that, and I am so resolved to it, is it's not just structural, the imbalance in how electoral power functions.

00:57:34.260 It's cultural.

00:57:35.900 It's the ethos of the people.

00:57:37.500 And if he says things to be responsive to conservatives by small c conservatives, so somebody who is politically conservative, as opposed to a political party in Alberta and Saskatchewan or Western Canada, he's going to lose votes in Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia.

00:58:01.980 And if he says things to be responsive to their perspectives and needs and ethos of the world around them, he's going to lose votes on the prairies.

00:58:12.580 And it's because we're fundamentally different people.

00:58:15.260 And it's become increasingly clear that we see the world through a different lens, that Albertans and people from Saskatchewan want less government in their lives.

00:58:26.240 They want government to get out of their way.

00:58:28.220 They're okay not being totally safe.

00:58:30.740 They want a little risk, actually.

00:58:33.540 So to live a good life, you've got to have some risk.

00:58:36.720 And they don't, frankly, think government's capable of keeping them safe anyway.

00:58:40.720 And, you know, then we got, don't go for a walk in the woods in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, because you might break your leg or start a fire.

00:58:48.180 So I really feel sorry for him.

00:58:50.560 I think it's a reflection that Canada's doomed, that it's become increasingly clear that we have different goals and we have different prospects.

00:58:59.420 You know, one of the scariest things, tables I have come across.

00:59:04.480 It's a table that it's about equalization.

00:59:07.800 And it doesn't show the raw, it shows the raw numbers, but it shows the percentage of the revenue to the province that comes from equalization payments.

00:59:16.700 And Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and a few others, it's 20% or more.

00:59:22.960 So 20% of their provincial revenue to deliver education, healthcare, infrastructure, social programs, etc.

00:59:30.020 to run their jails and their court system come from Alberta and Saskatchewan, but primarily Alberta.

00:59:38.140 So it's a dysfunction.

00:59:41.240 I just, what Pierre's announced, and just on the C5 stuff, you know.

00:59:47.440 So the reason Carney said, we're going to designate national projects, we're going to shovel ready, we're going to build, we're going to, all these slogans together is a sentence.

00:59:57.820 Here's the problem.

01:00:00.120 Well, why did he have to bring in Bill C5?

01:00:02.040 It's because he has acknowledged that the Bill C-69, which is the Environmental Assessment Act, the tanker ban, the EV mandate, the net zero mandate, the emissions cap, all of these things combined, are creating a disincentive to investment.

01:00:20.120 Investment dollars have choices that are going to other countries, creating wealth and jobs in those other countries instead of Canada.

01:00:25.160 So he says, okay, I'm going to create a bypass.

01:00:27.320 And the cabinet's going to approve certain projects.

01:00:29.380 And then he says, well, yeah, but only those projects that every premier consents to.

01:00:36.020 So now a pipeline to tidewater on the West Coast can be vetoed by the premier of Nova Scotia?

01:00:42.500 What the heck?

01:00:43.500 That's not even the current condition of the dysfunctional system.

01:00:46.280 And then he added last week that First Nations effectively get a veto.

01:00:50.180 So now the bypass is actually more problematic and more clogged and more uncertain than the problematic legislative policy framework that it was designed to overcome.

01:01:01.860 Canada's in a bad spot.

01:01:03.600 Yeah.

01:01:04.300 Remember the National Energy Board, the NEB?

01:01:07.640 Yeah.

01:01:08.140 How it was just non-political.

01:01:10.740 It only cared about technical stuff.

01:01:12.640 Wow.

01:01:12.960 What a time to be alive.

01:01:14.060 Michael, I saw you nodding along with Keith when he said that the West is culturally different.

01:01:22.060 I would dare say culturally incompatible with the rest of the country.

01:01:26.000 And so when I hear Pierre Polyev saying these things, I think, yeah, it hits my ear nicely.

01:01:31.340 But people in Toronto, they may be clutching their chests in disagreement.

01:01:35.420 You know, it's amazing.

01:01:37.620 There are different types of conservatives in this country.

01:01:39.820 You have the conservatives, the Western conservatives, which we're all familiar with.

01:01:43.460 But then you have Eastern conservatives that will ban you for $25,000 for walking in the woods.

01:01:48.100 Right.

01:01:48.560 That's a conservative premier, right?

01:01:50.500 Right.

01:01:51.720 We are more kindred.

01:01:53.660 I think we have to face this.

01:01:55.620 The thing is, quite frankly, you know, I mean, people call them anti-Canada because of saying this.

01:01:59.100 But the reality is, our kindred spirits are not East to West, they're North-South.

01:02:04.760 BC basically is California.

01:02:07.480 We have more in common with people in Texas, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Wisconsin.

01:02:13.280 The East, they have more in common with people in New York and Maine and that sort of thing, New Hampshire.

01:02:19.020 Right.

01:02:19.380 We're North-South, not East-West.

01:02:21.980 And the thing is, the reason why we'll lose is because there's just more of them there.

01:02:27.460 There's more people in the East.

01:02:28.560 And we will continue to lose.

01:02:30.620 Here it's speaking to basically people that understand it.

01:02:33.960 But you're absolutely right.

01:02:34.960 That was the platform of the conservatives, and we lost in that.

01:02:38.460 So, you know, as much as I'd like this, I don't know why I want Canada to sort of remain an independent country other than basically this is what I've grown up with for the last 60 years.

01:02:51.800 But the reality is I have relatives who live in the U.S.

01:02:54.820 And they're enjoying their time down there way, way better than we're enjoying our time here in Canada.

01:03:01.840 They're really enjoying their time there.

01:03:04.080 And you ask them, is there any regrets?

01:03:07.620 And the only response I get from them is, yes, I wish I would have done it sooner.

01:03:11.520 And because Canada is an exceptionally hard and complex place to live aside from the natural, you know, the cold and the harshness of the climate.

01:03:25.940 But it's just hard to live here.

01:03:29.180 Taxation, multiculturalism, which nobody sees eye to eye on anything. 0.99

01:03:35.380 Immigration, the depth of social structures in this country.

01:03:41.820 It's just harder to live here than it is in the U.S.

01:03:45.080 Now, that's not in all cases, because I think some places in the U.S. are hard to live with, particularly in poor areas and crime and that sort of thing.

01:03:52.860 So it's not all roses.

01:03:54.940 But if you are a person that wants to make something themselves, wants to work, make money, live in a nice area, I think they've got a pretty much better life than we do out here, or up here, rather.

01:04:07.200 Yeah, Lise, last word goes to you before we wrap up the panel.

01:04:11.860 Yeah, just going back to Pierre Polyev's piece there.

01:04:15.280 Yeah, that was nothing new under the sun.

01:04:17.160 Anybody that saw him in the federal election campaign heard all of those things before.

01:04:23.080 But what I thought when I was watching him is that Pierre Polyev right now is experiencing Alberta immersion.

01:04:31.460 Okay, Alberta immersion.

01:04:32.480 Because for years and years and years, Pierre Polyev had his safe seat in Carleton, okay?

01:04:38.600 He was Ontario-centric, Ottawa-centric.

01:04:41.360 He was surrounded by kind of woke Eastern conservatives that were in his sphere of influence and actively influencing him.

01:04:50.580 And now that he's got a little bit of distance between himself and the woke Eastern conservatives,

01:04:56.600 he is going to be hearing a lot of very Alberta opinions.

01:05:02.040 And we can only hope, we can only hope that that influence wears off on him real fast.

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