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DAVID MENZIES ｜ Rebel vs. Elections Commissioner, David Suzuki's threats and teachers bullied into vaccines


Summary

Rebel News was reprimanded for putting up a message calling on Alberta s premier, Rachel Notley, to fire her own education minister, David Egan. Now, a judicial review has upheld a reprimand issued against Rebel News for the billboard.


Transcript

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00:01:14.420 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,
00:01:32.560 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite Rebels.
00:01:37.740 I'm your host, David Menzies.
00:01:39.660 Well, who would have thought that a billboard message about a failed Albertan education minister
00:01:45.600 would cause such turmoil?
00:01:48.740 But our Fire Egan saga continues.
00:01:52.180 Sheila Gunn-Reed has the latest details in our fight for freedom of expression.
00:01:58.240 So how much does David Suzuki hate pipelines?
00:02:01.600 Well, he'd like to see them blowed up real good, to quote SCTV's Big Jim McBob.
00:02:07.320 Alas, there's absolutely nothing funny about acts of eco-terrorism.
00:02:12.660 Adam Seuss has all the details.
00:02:15.400 And letters, we get your letters.
00:02:16.900 We get them every minute of every day.
00:02:18.940 And you had plenty to say regarding my report on the Toronto District School Board
00:02:23.660 actually bullying its teachers and other staffers to get jabbed or else lose their jobs.
00:02:30.700 Say, whatever happened to zero tolerance for bullying?
00:02:34.080 Whatever happened to reasonable accommodation?
00:02:38.160 And say, where the hell are the various teachers unions when the rank and file really, really need them?
00:02:46.360 Those are your Rebels.
00:02:47.700 Now let's round them up.
00:02:48.860 I'm very sorry to have to report to you that a three-judge panel has upheld a lower provincial court decision,
00:03:00.840 a judicial review, that upheld a reprimand issued against us at Rebel News
00:03:06.660 for putting up a billboard way back in late 2018.
00:03:10.820 Now for those of you who have not been following this story closely, it's wild.
00:03:17.400 It's a story of government overreach, political censorship, and a complete and total lack of due process.
00:03:23.660 It's been a fight for editorial freedom and fair treatment under the law,
00:03:27.600 while an out-of-control elections bureaucrat used elections finance laws
00:03:33.300 to try to censor journalists for being vocal critics of the government of the day.
00:03:39.420 Now, like I said, the story, it goes back a couple of years.
00:03:43.120 It's two years and then some in the making.
00:03:44.960 I'll give you a short version, but you can see all of our reporting,
00:03:48.660 our legal filings, and our communications,
00:03:51.160 and you can also support our legal fight at rebeltrial.com.
00:03:56.140 It's all there for you to see.
00:03:58.200 The whole thing started way back in late November 2018,
00:04:01.100 when we put up a billboard calling on then-premier Rachel Notley
00:04:05.060 to fire her own education minister, David Egan,
00:04:08.560 because Egan had failed Alberta students.
00:04:11.220 Forty percent of grade nine kids were failing in math.
00:04:15.160 Now, in mid-December of the same year,
00:04:17.400 we received a letter from the elections commissioner in Alberta,
00:04:21.180 who, like Rachel Notley, was subsequently fired by the United Conservative Party.
00:04:26.140 That letter said we were being investigated
00:04:27.820 because our billboard allegedly broke elections finance laws
00:04:31.760 and that we should have registered as a third-party political advertiser
00:04:36.060 before putting it up.
00:04:37.380 We were not in an election, and we are not advertisers.
00:04:41.520 We are journalists expressing our opinions the same way
00:04:44.620 you might see on any given day on the editorial pages of a failing newspaper.
00:04:49.580 We just express our editorial opinions in a more interesting and compelling way.
00:04:53.960 So we lawyered up and sent a letter back.
00:04:57.360 January 9th, our lawyers told the elections cops
00:05:00.280 it was our intention to fight back, and we would be presenting evidence.
00:05:06.180 Just five days later, on January 14th, we received yet another letter,
00:05:11.280 a notice of adverse finding, a conviction from the elections commissioner,
00:05:16.560 telling us they had already convicted us
00:05:18.720 and that they wanted to talk to us about the size of the fines
00:05:22.440 they were going to issue us.
00:05:24.860 That was the only conversation they wanted to have.
00:05:27.420 No trial, no evidence.
00:05:29.240 And unlike a real court,
00:05:31.220 the elections commissioner plays every role
00:05:33.740 in the quasi-judicial theater of elections crimes.
00:05:37.320 He's the cop,
00:05:38.580 he's the judge,
00:05:40.180 he's the jury,
00:05:41.860 and he's the executioner.
00:05:43.380 The whole thing is insane.
00:05:45.580 It's our right as journalists to be critical of the government
00:05:47.980 without having to register
00:05:49.520 our objections with the government
00:05:53.220 as a third-party advertiser.
00:05:56.420 And we absolutely have a right to defend ourselves
00:05:59.620 against any allegations that we broke the law
00:06:01.860 in a real court,
00:06:03.780 not some quasi-kangaroo charade
00:06:06.800 where one guy who doesn't like you for political reasons
00:06:09.760 accuses you of wrongdoing
00:06:11.020 and then also appoints himself the decider of the case too.
00:06:14.920 So, we growled back at the government
00:06:17.120 and they backed down,
00:06:19.080 but only sort of.
00:06:21.180 They told us we wouldn't be getting any fines for our wrongdoing,
00:06:24.400 we'd be getting a reprimand.
00:06:26.120 But for what?
00:06:27.480 We don't take reprimands from elections cops
00:06:29.720 for speaking our minds.
00:06:31.920 Even witches were able to face their accusers
00:06:35.240 at a show trial.
00:06:36.400 We, at Rebel News,
00:06:37.580 we didn't even get that much.
00:06:39.800 Holy Halloween.
00:06:41.140 Imagine that, folks.
00:06:42.600 Accused witches back in Salem in the 1600s
00:06:46.180 actually had more rights
00:06:48.460 than we have in Alberta of 21st century.
00:06:53.880 How can this be?
00:06:55.460 And where do we go from here
00:06:57.600 in terms of, oh, I don't know,
00:07:00.120 standing up for freedom?
00:07:01.540 How is it that a billboard is so triggering
00:07:06.480 to certain bureaucrats?
00:07:09.280 And joining me now with more on this story
00:07:11.420 is our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:07:14.360 How are you doing there, Sheila?
00:07:16.000 I'm great, David.
00:07:17.060 Thanks for having me on the show.
00:07:18.880 You know, Sheila, it's a pleasure as always,
00:07:21.480 but this story boils my blood.
00:07:24.360 How is it that this billboard
00:07:28.240 is so egregious
00:07:30.660 in the eyes of the bureaucracy in Alberta?
00:07:34.440 Why is this thing even a thing?
00:07:37.840 Well, and that really is the thing, David,
00:07:40.980 because we were tried like witches
00:07:44.880 behind our backs,
00:07:46.420 never even allowed to participate in the process
00:07:48.560 for breaking elections finance laws,
00:07:53.540 engaging in third-party political advertising.
00:07:56.960 But we were not in an election
00:07:59.180 and we are not third-party political advertisers.
00:08:02.340 We are journalists
00:08:03.160 and we publish an opinion on a billboard,
00:08:05.480 which is exactly what the failing mainstream media
00:08:08.300 does every day in the pages
00:08:09.980 of the editorial section.
00:08:12.180 We just did it on a billboard
00:08:13.320 where people will actually see it
00:08:15.100 because nobody reads terrestrial newspapers anymore.
00:08:17.820 And our billboard was simple.
00:08:20.260 It called on Rachel Notley
00:08:21.760 to fire her own education minister
00:08:24.820 for failing Alberta students.
00:08:27.100 We weren't advocating for a political party.
00:08:30.300 We were calling for accountability
00:08:31.780 from the existing party of the day.
00:08:33.740 And because of that,
00:08:35.120 we were found guilty, really,
00:08:38.860 behind our backs by the elections commissioner,
00:08:42.140 a position that actually doesn't exist anymore.
00:08:44.260 It was killed by Jason Kenney.
00:08:47.820 What they did was they sent us a notice of adverse finding,
00:08:55.820 a notice of adverse finding,
00:08:57.500 which means they were notifying us
00:08:59.500 that they had an adverse finding against us,
00:09:01.880 which is a conviction.
00:09:03.260 And the only thing they wanted to talk about with us
00:09:05.740 was fines.
00:09:07.040 And when I compared this to a witch trial,
00:09:09.380 are they going to dunk us in the river
00:09:10.680 and see if we float?
00:09:11.600 Or are they going to burn us at the stake?
00:09:13.620 But either way,
00:09:14.420 they had found us guilty behind our back.
00:09:16.480 And we said,
00:09:17.960 oh, no, that's not going to fly.
00:09:21.180 We need a chance to present our evidence.
00:09:24.500 And that's when they backed off
00:09:27.380 and issued us a reprimand.
00:09:29.780 And that brings us to today,
00:09:32.200 because we don't accept a reprimand.
00:09:34.080 We don't think we should ever have to register our opinions
00:09:38.680 as journalists with the government
00:09:40.520 before we express them in a way that we see fit,
00:09:44.160 not the government.
00:09:45.500 And we are appealing the reprimand
00:09:47.320 because it was given to us without due process.
00:09:50.040 There was like four or five days
00:09:52.200 between when we said to them,
00:09:55.460 basically,
00:09:57.160 we are willing to participate in your investigation
00:09:59.940 and the time they found us guilty.
00:10:02.240 So we appealed.
00:10:04.640 We brought it to a judicial review.
00:10:08.120 And the judicial review found against us.
00:10:11.280 So we appealed that.
00:10:12.860 They found against us again.
00:10:14.440 So now we're seeking leave to appeal this decision
00:10:16.740 all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:10:18.600 And who knows if they will accept our attempted appeal.
00:10:22.420 But all we can do is try
00:10:23.720 because free speech itself
00:10:25.160 and due process for all people depend on it.
00:10:28.740 You know, and this is the thing.
00:10:29.820 I don't understand why we've lost
00:10:31.760 these judicial reviews, Sheila.
00:10:33.920 I mean, I look at that billboard.
00:10:37.600 Nothing about it is, you know,
00:10:39.380 from a journalistic point of view,
00:10:41.340 defamatory or slanderous or libelous.
00:10:44.660 Indeed, it's actually quite factual
00:10:46.900 in terms of the Alberta school scores
00:10:50.620 plummeting under Mr. Reagan.
00:10:52.840 So, you know, like I said,
00:10:56.380 I'm still grasping as to
00:10:58.640 what the crime committed was here.
00:11:01.600 Is it hurting the feelings
00:11:03.740 of a former minister?
00:11:07.500 You know what?
00:11:08.420 I think that's really
00:11:09.640 what was at the
00:11:11.820 crux of the initial complaint against us
00:11:15.360 was that we were being a little bit harsh
00:11:18.360 with the government of the day
00:11:19.700 and they didn't like that.
00:11:20.700 And we know that this elections commissioner position,
00:11:24.000 it was weaponized against
00:11:26.320 so many of Rachel Notley's critics
00:11:28.440 from pro-life groups
00:11:30.340 to municipal accountability groups.
00:11:33.940 Alberta Can't Wait ended up in trouble.
00:11:36.840 So it was really a lot of people
00:11:38.820 from the right side of the political spectrum
00:11:40.800 or even single issue people
00:11:42.860 like pro-life groups
00:11:44.240 who didn't like
00:11:47.340 what the government of the day was doing.
00:11:49.000 They were under attack constantly
00:11:51.620 by the weaponized elections bureaucracy
00:11:54.540 using this third-party advertiser law
00:11:57.480 as a tool of censorship.
00:11:59.540 And a lot of people just paid the fine
00:12:03.280 because paying the fine
00:12:04.980 is so often cheaper than it.
00:12:06.820 But then they came across Rebel News
00:12:08.960 and we were not going to pay the fine.
00:12:10.580 But even crazier,
00:12:12.600 we would not accept a reprimand.
00:12:14.300 So a non-monetary reprimand,
00:12:16.380 we are appealing all the way
00:12:18.300 to the Supreme Court
00:12:19.280 because we don't register
00:12:21.960 our opinions with the government
00:12:23.460 and we will not concede to them
00:12:25.500 the right to reprimand us
00:12:26.820 for our opinions.
00:12:28.420 Oh, 100%, Sheila.
00:12:29.380 And it is not about the money.
00:12:31.260 I know a lot of people say that
00:12:32.560 when they're in litigation.
00:12:33.560 It's not about the money
00:12:34.700 and it bloody well is about the money.
00:12:36.820 But it's about the principle.
00:12:38.600 It's about freedom of expression,
00:12:40.780 freedom of speech,
00:12:42.180 freedom of the press.
00:12:43.280 And I see that so under attack
00:12:45.860 in little ways.
00:12:47.940 Sheila, earlier this month,
00:12:49.680 a homeowner in Port Colborne, Ontario,
00:12:52.380 had one of those F Trudeau flags
00:12:54.940 flying from his home.
00:12:56.280 And he's being told by bylaw,
00:12:57.700 you got to take it down
00:12:58.760 or you're going to be fined.
00:13:00.220 And thankfully,
00:13:01.320 he's not bending the knee,
00:13:02.440 put a second flag up.
00:13:04.020 I interviewed last night
00:13:04.920 for an upcoming video,
00:13:05.980 a man with a video sign in his car.
00:13:10.500 He puts out cheeky political messages.
00:13:13.760 He was given a ticket
00:13:14.860 by a police officer
00:13:16.280 with Waterloo Regional Police
00:13:17.800 for a non-existent crime.
00:13:20.960 I checked with the Ministry of Transport.
00:13:23.500 The point is,
00:13:24.320 is that little by little,
00:13:26.760 people, individuals, companies
00:13:28.940 are getting censored
00:13:30.380 and that's just not right.
00:13:33.140 Yeah.
00:13:33.700 Remember how much things have changed,
00:13:35.860 though, now that the people
00:13:37.060 on the right side of the aisle
00:13:39.080 are pushing back?
00:13:40.040 Do you remember the guy
00:13:41.740 who had the F Harper car?
00:13:45.000 Yes.
00:13:45.280 And he would drive it around
00:13:46.320 and there were articles
00:13:47.320 written about like how like endearing
00:13:50.380 and cheeky this guy was.
00:13:52.520 And it was,
00:13:53.420 he was sort of a darling
00:13:55.280 of the mainstream media
00:13:56.780 because this guy
00:13:58.620 in the mainstream media
00:13:59.500 had the same political enemy.
00:14:01.820 And you preface that
00:14:03.460 with the coverage now
00:14:04.700 of anybody who holds a sign
00:14:07.540 that is critical of Trudeau
00:14:10.080 or cheekily chants,
00:14:11.780 lock her up
00:14:12.480 about Rachel Notley.
00:14:13.640 People were losing their minds,
00:14:15.020 literally losing their minds
00:14:16.180 about people chanting,
00:14:17.760 lock her up,
00:14:18.460 just as like a tongue-in-cheek chant
00:14:20.300 about Rachel Notley.
00:14:21.260 As we're filming this,
00:14:23.480 I'm actually on a break
00:14:24.820 from court
00:14:25.920 because I'm covering
00:14:26.860 a hearing for Pastor Art Poloski
00:14:31.420 and Chris Scott.
00:14:33.040 And what is happening
00:14:35.360 in court today
00:14:36.080 is lawyers for Chris Scott
00:14:37.620 and Pastor Art
00:14:38.640 are trying to get a stay
00:14:39.900 of their sanctions.
00:14:40.600 So they're trying to get
00:14:41.400 the sanctions
00:14:42.100 that they received
00:14:43.120 put on hold
00:14:44.360 until they can appeal
00:14:45.500 those sanctions.
00:14:46.380 And it's interesting
00:14:48.180 that we are bringing up
00:14:49.580 our reprimand
00:14:52.060 for being critical
00:14:52.920 of the government
00:14:53.680 because now
00:14:54.640 it's not just companies
00:14:56.360 and news agencies
00:14:57.380 like us
00:14:57.960 that are being reprimanded
00:14:59.180 for being critical
00:14:59.780 of the government.
00:15:00.780 These guys
00:15:01.900 are really,
00:15:03.020 truly being reprimanded
00:15:04.020 for being critical
00:15:04.560 of the government
00:15:05.080 because their sanctions,
00:15:06.980 including one
00:15:07.640 that compels them
00:15:08.540 to give government
00:15:09.480 lockdown salesmen
00:15:10.980 talking points
00:15:11.700 before they give
00:15:12.740 their own opinion
00:15:13.720 on lockdowns,
00:15:15.360 they're experiencing
00:15:16.240 the same thing.
00:15:17.860 Their sanctions
00:15:19.000 do not do anything
00:15:21.600 to deal with the order
00:15:24.400 that they are in contempt of,
00:15:26.020 an illegal public gathering.
00:15:28.220 Their order,
00:15:29.260 their sanctions
00:15:30.300 are there to protect
00:15:32.960 the government's hurt feelings,
00:15:34.660 which is exactly
00:15:35.460 what happened to us.
00:15:36.440 So it started
00:15:37.260 with a reprimand
00:15:38.340 for us a couple years ago
00:15:40.500 and now it's made its way
00:15:42.000 all into,
00:15:43.140 like,
00:15:43.500 the court
00:15:44.060 where regular citizens
00:15:45.680 who are trying
00:15:46.700 to be critics
00:15:47.260 of the government policies
00:15:48.620 that are closing
00:15:49.460 their churches
00:15:50.000 and closing their businesses,
00:15:51.540 they are having
00:15:52.700 compelled speech,
00:15:53.620 what they call
00:15:54.000 qualified speech
00:15:55.280 in court today,
00:15:56.380 as though it makes
00:15:56.980 any sort of difference.
00:15:58.400 And it's the kind of thing
00:15:59.620 that it's,
00:16:01.820 it's the,
00:16:02.980 it's something
00:16:03.520 that we see
00:16:04.140 in the more authoritarian
00:16:05.420 and odious regimes
00:16:06.680 in the world.
00:16:07.220 We don't expect
00:16:08.340 to see this in Canada,
00:16:09.320 but in three short years
00:16:10.800 it went from a reprimand
00:16:12.060 for a billboard
00:16:12.780 to us
00:16:14.500 for being critical
00:16:15.760 of the government
00:16:16.280 to people being
00:16:18.480 compelled
00:16:19.380 under force
00:16:21.320 of the court
00:16:22.100 to give
00:16:22.900 the government's side.
00:16:24.580 That's how quickly
00:16:25.340 the needle has shifted
00:16:26.400 and that's why
00:16:27.400 we have to fight
00:16:28.260 the reprimand
00:16:29.060 just as fiercely
00:16:30.320 as we have to fight
00:16:31.180 for Chris Scott
00:16:31.820 and Pastor Art
00:16:32.940 in court right now.
00:16:33.820 But you know what, Sheila?
00:16:35.340 At least Chris Scott
00:16:36.620 and Pastor Art
00:16:37.480 are getting a day
00:16:38.400 in court.
00:16:39.280 Originally,
00:16:40.140 we didn't have
00:16:41.160 that opportunity
00:16:41.820 and it reminds me
00:16:42.700 of what happened
00:16:43.320 in Hamilton to me
00:16:44.820 in the summertime.
00:16:45.760 I was covering a protest,
00:16:47.280 I was practicing journalism
00:16:48.440 and a bylaw officer
00:16:49.860 with a telephoto lens
00:16:51.220 photographed me
00:16:52.760 for breaking
00:16:54.240 social distancing rules
00:16:55.760 and sent me a ticket,
00:16:57.680 it's called an AMPS ticket,
00:16:59.500 by email,
00:17:00.680 I thought it was a scam
00:17:01.660 at first,
00:17:02.480 for $360.
00:17:04.520 And you cannot
00:17:06.120 challenge this in court.
00:17:07.800 And the Supreme Court
00:17:08.600 of Canada ruled
00:17:09.820 that these AMPS tickets
00:17:11.000 back in 2016,
00:17:12.400 it's completely fine.
00:17:14.520 This is an affront
00:17:15.820 to the justice system,
00:17:18.080 the idea that you're
00:17:19.080 innocent until proven guilty.
00:17:22.140 There is so much wrong
00:17:23.580 with this story.
00:17:24.540 The fact that it's happening
00:17:25.540 in Jason Kenney's Alberta
00:17:27.360 is another factor.
00:17:29.600 One last question, Sheila.
00:17:31.320 Where do we go from here
00:17:32.880 and how can people
00:17:34.220 pitch in to help us out,
00:17:36.500 I think,
00:17:37.120 on a very important
00:17:38.280 and profound case?
00:17:41.140 That's the thing.
00:17:41.940 This is very important
00:17:43.000 and profound
00:17:43.600 because we are
00:17:44.440 rapidly approaching
00:17:45.800 the next election cycle
00:17:47.260 in Alberta.
00:17:49.060 And this isn't just
00:17:50.060 free speech for us,
00:17:51.040 it's free speech
00:17:51.760 for people on the other
00:17:52.680 side of the aisle, too,
00:17:53.880 who are going to be critics
00:17:57.200 of anything conservative.
00:17:58.580 We're also fighting
00:18:00.000 for them so that
00:18:00.840 these third-party
00:18:01.520 advertiser laws
00:18:02.340 are not weaponized
00:18:03.520 against them, too.
00:18:05.060 And because of the lack
00:18:06.420 of due process for us,
00:18:08.360 because they said
00:18:09.260 the only communications
00:18:10.600 they were going to have
00:18:11.360 with us after this
00:18:13.100 notice of adverse finding,
00:18:15.200 which is a conviction,
00:18:16.640 before we had evidence,
00:18:18.640 we are seeking leave
00:18:20.600 to appeal this all the way
00:18:21.760 to the Supreme Court
00:18:22.500 of Canada.
00:18:23.100 Now, I'm going to be honest
00:18:24.520 with you.
00:18:24.900 This is a bit of a Hail Mary thing,
00:18:26.380 but what else can we do?
00:18:28.620 What else can we do?
00:18:30.260 So, again,
00:18:32.100 these are very expensive
00:18:33.840 propositions.
00:18:35.760 I mean, we're going
00:18:36.380 all the way
00:18:36.800 to the Supreme Court
00:18:37.700 of Canada.
00:18:38.700 And, for some reason,
00:18:40.820 Jason Kenney,
00:18:41.800 the so-called conservative,
00:18:43.280 his government
00:18:43.900 is fighting us
00:18:44.620 every step of the way
00:18:45.880 instead of just saying,
00:18:47.920 you know, this is madness.
00:18:49.020 It's a non-monetary
00:18:50.100 reprimand for nothing.
00:18:52.520 They didn't do anything wrong.
00:18:53.860 Let's just drop this.
00:18:55.060 But we are seeking leave
00:18:57.200 to appeal it all the way
00:18:58.060 to the Supreme Court.
00:18:59.300 Supreme Court may or may not
00:19:01.320 agree to hear our appeal.
00:19:03.260 But, like I said,
00:19:03.880 what else can we do?
00:19:05.160 We're up against the deep pockets
00:19:06.820 of the government.
00:19:07.660 They've got all of your money
00:19:08.840 to fight us with.
00:19:10.160 We have to rely on
00:19:11.380 our viewers at home.
00:19:12.720 And if people want to pitch in
00:19:13.940 to cover our legal costs,
00:19:15.320 they can do that
00:19:15.960 at rebeltrial.com.
00:19:17.660 And the great thing
00:19:18.300 about rebeltrial.com
00:19:19.680 is you can see
00:19:21.100 everything in real time.
00:19:23.260 You can see them saying,
00:19:24.620 we've opened an investigation,
00:19:26.080 us saying, okay, let's rumble,
00:19:28.160 and then saying,
00:19:29.800 oh, by the way,
00:19:30.380 we found you guilty.
00:19:31.920 And here's what
00:19:33.320 we're going to talk about.
00:19:34.140 We're going to talk about fines.
00:19:35.140 It was like days apart.
00:19:36.900 So you can see all of that,
00:19:38.200 all of our back and forth,
00:19:39.380 all of our communications
00:19:40.420 with Alberta Health Services.
00:19:42.160 You can see that in real time
00:19:43.720 at that same website.
00:19:44.900 So you can see all the work
00:19:46.220 that our lawyers are doing.
00:19:47.520 You can follow along
00:19:48.240 with the case chronologically.
00:19:49.760 That's at rebeltrial.com.
00:19:51.600 Fantastic, Sheila.
00:19:53.580 And at least there's
00:19:54.160 a silver lining here.
00:19:55.140 And I'm speaking of
00:19:55.800 all those media companies
00:19:56.980 that as a sign of solidarity
00:19:58.900 are coming to our defense.
00:20:00.920 No, of course, I'm jesting.
00:20:02.220 They're actually cheering
00:20:03.000 on the government.
00:20:04.740 Where are they?
00:20:06.740 Maybe 20 years ago,
00:20:08.200 but not anymore.
00:20:09.460 Sheila, fantastic report.
00:20:11.520 A very important story.
00:20:13.120 I know you're going
00:20:13.680 to be on top of it.
00:20:14.980 Can't wait for an update.
00:20:16.380 Hopefully it's a favorable one.
00:20:18.400 Thank you so much.
00:20:20.180 Thanks, David.
00:20:20.860 Have a great weekend.
00:20:22.080 You too, my friend.
00:20:22.880 And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:20:25.380 somewhere in the hinterland
00:20:26.980 of northern Alberta.
00:20:28.600 Keep it here, folks.
00:20:29.580 More of Rebel Roundup
00:20:30.420 to come right after this.
00:20:36.820 I am joined by a very special guest,
00:20:40.100 member of Legislative Assembly
00:20:41.900 and Minister of Environment
00:20:43.640 and Parks for Alberta,
00:20:46.080 Jason Nixon.
00:20:47.120 This morning,
00:20:47.700 we were watching
00:20:48.500 the proceedings in legislature
00:20:49.760 and we were talking about
00:20:51.100 on our live stream
00:20:52.080 the troubling remarks
00:20:53.860 from David Suzuki,
00:20:55.680 remarks that if anyone
00:20:57.380 on the Conservative side
00:20:58.600 would say anything comparable
00:20:59.820 to, there'd undoubtedly
00:21:00.900 be investigations,
00:21:02.240 allegations of threats.
00:21:04.600 virtual silence across the board
00:21:07.600 from pundits,
00:21:09.260 the CBC barely covering this.
00:21:11.520 This is what we're come to.
00:21:13.160 The next stage after this
00:21:14.400 is there are going to be
00:21:15.280 pipelines blown up
00:21:16.360 if our leaders don't pay attention
00:21:18.460 to what's going on.
00:21:19.500 The next stage after this
00:21:21.220 is there are going to be
00:21:22.460 pipelines blown up.
00:21:24.120 We were so grateful
00:21:25.020 to have you take a strong position
00:21:26.960 on this and speak to this.
00:21:28.120 Our pipelines,
00:21:28.900 Mr. Speaker,
00:21:29.440 are the safest
00:21:30.220 and most efficient way
00:21:31.840 to export ethical Alberta oil
00:21:33.820 all across the continent.
00:21:36.320 David Suzuki
00:21:37.140 is so out of touch
00:21:38.800 with the real world
00:21:39.600 that he advocates,
00:21:41.100 Mr. Speaker,
00:21:41.660 for eco-terrorism
00:21:42.700 towards Canadian people
00:21:43.900 and industries.
00:21:45.360 This is completely
00:21:46.460 unacceptable
00:21:46.540 and extremely reckless.
00:21:48.860 The NDP, Mr. Speaker,
00:21:51.220 sadly have a long history
00:21:52.420 of collaborating
00:21:53.300 with David Suzuki
00:21:54.220 and their silence
00:21:55.640 on his outrageous comments
00:21:57.640 made them complicit
00:21:59.220 with calls for eco-terrorism
00:22:01.280 towards Albertans
00:22:02.480 and Canadians.
00:22:04.560 Alberta's oil and gas industry
00:22:06.080 along with Alberta's government
00:22:07.260 have developed
00:22:08.300 innovative technologies
00:22:09.360 that actually impact
00:22:11.280 the environment.
00:22:12.540 The destruction
00:22:13.260 of our pipelines
00:22:14.320 is eco-terrorism
00:22:15.260 and must be rebuked
00:22:16.460 by everyone in this country.
00:22:17.860 Can you maybe go through
00:22:19.320 some of your comments
00:22:20.700 today in legislature
00:22:21.540 here in Alberta?
00:22:23.140 Yeah, well,
00:22:23.660 I think all Canadians
00:22:25.400 and all Albertans
00:22:26.100 should be appalled
00:22:26.720 by any comments
00:22:27.920 that could be used
00:22:29.140 to incite violence
00:22:30.040 in any way
00:22:31.260 referring to the blowing up
00:22:32.680 of a pipeline
00:22:33.380 or any type of infrastructure
00:22:34.880 is absolutely appalling.
00:22:37.860 And so I wanted
00:22:38.420 to make a clear statement
00:22:39.260 as the Minister of Environment,
00:22:40.800 one, to stand up
00:22:42.180 for our incredible
00:22:42.980 environmental record
00:22:43.880 inside our province
00:22:44.680 and the incredible hard work
00:22:46.200 of the men and women
00:22:46.880 who work in our energy
00:22:47.820 industry.
00:22:48.160 And we did that today.
00:22:49.780 But on top of that,
00:22:50.700 we called on immediately
00:22:51.860 for David Suzuki
00:22:52.660 to apologize
00:22:53.320 for what he said
00:22:54.720 and to stop any comments
00:22:57.040 that in any way
00:22:57.880 could be used
00:22:58.840 to support eco-terrorism.
00:23:01.160 It's just completely
00:23:02.420 unacceptable.
00:23:03.600 I also had some concerns
00:23:04.920 with the fact
00:23:05.420 that we saw
00:23:05.980 the official opposition
00:23:06.780 in Alberta,
00:23:07.340 the NDP opposition
00:23:08.720 in Alberta,
00:23:09.640 this weekend
00:23:10.140 passed motions
00:23:11.000 supporting the illegal
00:23:12.340 blockades
00:23:13.100 of important pipeline
00:23:14.340 projects in B.C.
00:23:17.140 This day and age,
00:23:18.260 it is completely
00:23:19.040 and utterly unacceptable
00:23:20.280 for anybody
00:23:21.160 in public life
00:23:22.000 to call for people
00:23:23.220 to be illegally
00:23:23.780 blocking projects
00:23:24.860 or to in any way
00:23:26.660 be condoning
00:23:27.980 acts of violence
00:23:29.180 or saying that acts
00:23:29.820 of violence
00:23:30.180 would take place
00:23:30.780 when it comes
00:23:31.180 to this infrastructure.
00:23:31.980 So we made that clear
00:23:33.060 in the legislature
00:23:33.600 today in my statement.
00:23:34.720 However, Mr. Speaker,
00:23:35.640 my view is that
00:23:36.320 every member of this House
00:23:37.420 should have that opportunity
00:23:38.400 to speak to this
00:23:39.380 and to consider a motion
00:23:40.820 to condemn
00:23:41.480 David Suzuki's
00:23:42.360 disgusting remarks.
00:23:43.860 And I will,
00:23:44.760 as government house leader
00:23:45.600 later today,
00:23:46.420 move such a motion
00:23:47.160 in this chamber.
00:23:48.640 It's important to note
00:23:49.780 that David Suzuki
00:23:50.840 doesn't just hate pipelines
00:23:52.180 that want to carry
00:23:53.360 the most ethically
00:23:54.140 produced oil
00:23:54.820 for export
00:23:55.920 around the world.
00:23:56.760 The truth is,
00:23:57.860 David Suzuki
00:23:58.420 hates Alberta.
00:24:00.020 David Suzuki
00:24:00.760 has compared Alberta's
00:24:01.860 oil and gas industry
00:24:02.840 to slavery in the past,
00:24:04.820 which is thickable
00:24:05.400 on its own.
00:24:07.060 But now he has said
00:24:08.340 the following
00:24:08.920 to check news
00:24:09.780 in Vancouver
00:24:10.400 this past Saturday.
00:24:12.240 Suzuki says,
00:24:13.020 and I quote Mr. Speaker,
00:24:14.440 there are going
00:24:14.940 to be pipelines
00:24:15.900 blowing up.
00:24:17.720 And goes on to say,
00:24:18.940 I saw the power
00:24:20.080 of civil disobedience.
00:24:22.040 And then he says,
00:24:22.980 people in Extinction Rebellion
00:24:24.500 are saying,
00:24:25.280 we're headed
00:24:25.560 in the direction
00:24:26.040 of extinction
00:24:26.560 and we're rebelling
00:24:27.800 against it.
00:24:28.920 That's why I'm here.
00:24:30.740 Hey folks,
00:24:31.400 who knew that
00:24:32.240 so-called
00:24:32.940 civil disobedience
00:24:34.540 included acts of,
00:24:35.960 you know,
00:24:36.780 eco-terrorism?
00:24:38.100 But hey,
00:24:38.720 that's what
00:24:39.580 Despicable Dave
00:24:40.620 is advocating,
00:24:41.860 much like that
00:24:42.600 SCTV character,
00:24:44.440 Big Jim McBob.
00:24:45.540 He wants to see
00:24:46.500 pipelines
00:24:47.360 blowed up
00:24:48.340 real good.
00:24:49.820 The only thing is,
00:24:50.880 what David Suzuki
00:24:51.960 said
00:24:52.420 is not funny
00:24:53.760 at all.
00:24:54.580 In fact,
00:24:55.100 I wonder
00:24:55.540 what Mr. Suzuki
00:24:56.940 calls the
00:24:58.320 attacks
00:24:58.920 20 years ago
00:24:59.860 at the
00:25:00.680 World Trade Center
00:25:01.800 a mostly
00:25:03.220 peaceful
00:25:04.060 protest,
00:25:04.900 perhaps?
00:25:05.580 What a disgrace.
00:25:06.580 In any event,
00:25:08.540 my colleague
00:25:09.220 Adam Seuss
00:25:10.060 in Calgary
00:25:10.800 is here
00:25:11.640 to discuss
00:25:12.420 exactly
00:25:13.520 what David
00:25:14.940 Suzuki
00:25:15.600 was thinking
00:25:16.280 in terms
00:25:17.400 of advocating
00:25:18.320 terrorism
00:25:19.740 in the first place.
00:25:21.540 Adam,
00:25:21.720 how you doing,
00:25:22.200 my friend?
00:25:23.220 Good.
00:25:23.460 How are you doing?
00:25:24.260 I'm doing great.
00:25:25.320 You know,
00:25:25.680 Adam,
00:25:25.900 before we get
00:25:26.680 into
00:25:27.180 what David
00:25:29.060 Suzuki
00:25:29.480 was saying
00:25:30.160 and the
00:25:31.380 D word
00:25:31.960 despicable,
00:25:32.960 that pretty much
00:25:34.060 covers it off
00:25:35.260 nicely,
00:25:35.800 I think.
00:25:36.640 I just want
00:25:37.420 to touch upon
00:25:38.180 the absolute
00:25:39.580 hypocrisy
00:25:40.640 of this man.
00:25:41.960 In other words,
00:25:43.120 here's someone
00:25:43.840 that became
00:25:44.800 very rich
00:25:45.600 via taxpayer
00:25:46.940 dollars,
00:25:47.500 thanks to
00:25:48.120 all his
00:25:48.540 CBC shows.
00:25:50.100 He has
00:25:50.400 multiple
00:25:51.040 high-end
00:25:51.880 homes.
00:25:53.640 How does
00:25:54.080 David Suzuki
00:25:54.980 think he's
00:25:55.880 going to
00:25:56.320 heat those
00:25:57.420 high-end
00:25:58.080 homes
00:25:58.520 if all
00:25:59.360 those pipelines
00:26:00.240 get blown
00:26:01.460 to pieces?
00:26:02.060 Does he
00:26:03.220 have a
00:26:03.600 special
00:26:04.200 stash
00:26:04.740 of,
00:26:05.140 I don't
00:26:05.460 know,
00:26:05.720 dilithium
00:26:06.180 crystals
00:26:06.640 somewhere?
00:26:08.060 Yeah,
00:26:08.560 it's absolutely
00:26:09.360 staggering.
00:26:10.020 It isn't just
00:26:10.440 David Suzuki,
00:26:11.360 it's virtually
00:26:11.900 everyone.
00:26:12.900 They'll take
00:26:13.360 helicopter tours
00:26:14.400 over the oil
00:26:15.120 sands while
00:26:15.740 criticizing them,
00:26:16.980 be on mega
00:26:17.840 yachts that
00:26:18.460 consume more
00:26:19.200 energy in
00:26:20.140 one boat
00:26:20.960 trip than
00:26:21.400 my house
00:26:21.920 consumes in
00:26:23.000 a year.
00:26:24.060 The categorical
00:26:25.400 hypocrisy,
00:26:26.200 listen,
00:26:26.640 anyone who's
00:26:27.300 espousing any
00:26:28.200 values,
00:26:29.300 to expect
00:26:30.060 them to
00:26:30.420 adhere to
00:26:30.920 them perfectly
00:26:31.680 I think
00:26:32.460 is unfair.
00:26:33.640 But the
00:26:34.000 extent to
00:26:34.780 which they
00:26:35.180 have such
00:26:35.640 glaring hypocrisy
00:26:37.660 is unbelievable.
00:26:38.640 And it
00:26:38.900 permeates even
00:26:39.800 on the local
00:26:40.640 level.
00:26:41.280 We were
00:26:41.620 covering a
00:26:42.120 protest here
00:26:42.680 in Calgary
00:26:43.140 just the
00:26:43.640 other night.
00:26:44.420 The video
00:26:44.860 should be up
00:26:45.480 at any
00:26:45.800 moment.
00:26:47.080 But they
00:26:47.780 all drive
00:26:48.740 up in
00:26:49.180 relatively
00:26:49.720 large vehicles,
00:26:50.800 park right
00:26:51.300 next to me
00:26:51.820 in their
00:26:52.060 gas-powered
00:26:52.720 vehicles,
00:26:53.480 and then they
00:26:54.040 get out and
00:26:54.620 they attend
00:26:55.060 a protest
00:26:55.500 against
00:26:56.000 pipelines.
00:26:57.060 What do
00:26:57.380 they think
00:26:57.660 those vehicles
00:26:58.220 run on,
00:26:58.780 hopes and
00:26:59.200 dreams?
00:27:00.020 You know,
00:27:00.660 Adam,
00:27:00.860 it's so
00:27:01.840 true.
00:27:02.180 As the
00:27:02.500 saying goes,
00:27:03.580 socialism isn't
00:27:04.920 for the
00:27:05.440 socialists.
00:27:06.600 And speaking
00:27:07.180 of which,
00:27:08.400 certainly the
00:27:09.080 UCP were
00:27:10.560 outraged and
00:27:11.480 members made
00:27:12.740 comments to that
00:27:13.560 effect in the
00:27:14.320 legislature.
00:27:15.640 Where is the
00:27:16.760 NDP in this
00:27:18.740 hubbubaloo?
00:27:19.640 And part of
00:27:21.220 the motion,
00:27:21.780 it was a
00:27:22.180 minister of
00:27:23.560 environment and
00:27:24.120 parks,
00:27:24.540 Jason Nixon,
00:27:25.420 who brought
00:27:26.300 forward actually
00:27:26.920 a motion
00:27:27.520 calling for
00:27:28.360 those comments
00:27:29.080 to be condemned
00:27:30.460 for David
00:27:30.960 Suzuki to
00:27:31.680 apologize.
00:27:33.020 But furthermore,
00:27:34.120 he actually
00:27:34.560 called on any
00:27:35.840 sort of
00:27:36.260 eco-terrorism to
00:27:37.720 be condemned
00:27:38.480 rather than
00:27:39.140 applauded.
00:27:39.660 Because in
00:27:40.060 fact,
00:27:40.360 over the
00:27:40.700 weekend,
00:27:41.600 the NDP,
00:27:42.220 at least a
00:27:42.580 number of
00:27:42.940 MLAs,
00:27:43.960 endorsed the
00:27:44.720 Wet'suwet'en
00:27:45.360 protests,
00:27:46.360 which have
00:27:46.960 now been
00:27:47.420 deemed illegal.
00:27:48.300 For those
00:27:49.240 who don't
00:27:49.720 know,
00:27:50.040 on some
00:27:50.460 of these
00:27:50.700 protests that
00:27:51.440 have been
00:27:51.680 extremely
00:27:52.140 contentious,
00:27:53.360 of the
00:27:54.460 six elected
00:27:56.600 councils in
00:27:58.060 that area,
00:27:58.780 First Nations
00:27:59.300 or Indigenous
00:27:59.820 councils,
00:28:00.780 five of six
00:28:01.740 voted in
00:28:02.540 favor of
00:28:03.660 this pipeline
00:28:04.340 going forward.
00:28:05.540 The six that
00:28:06.580 didn't is not
00:28:07.580 the group that's
00:28:08.400 protesting these
00:28:09.180 pipelines.
00:28:10.100 Furthermore,
00:28:11.000 20 individual
00:28:12.260 and independent
00:28:12.940 Indigenous
00:28:13.420 councils along
00:28:14.400 the route of
00:28:15.320 the coastal
00:28:16.220 gas link
00:28:16.840 pipeline,
00:28:17.400 they also
00:28:18.660 voted in
00:28:19.500 favor of
00:28:20.080 this.
00:28:20.580 So this is
00:28:21.000 not as
00:28:21.360 though this
00:28:21.700 is being
00:28:22.080 done to
00:28:22.860 the Indigenous
00:28:23.320 community.
00:28:24.040 In fact,
00:28:24.460 the $6.6
00:28:25.380 billion pipeline
00:28:26.300 is being
00:28:27.660 done very
00:28:28.380 much in
00:28:28.740 cooperation with
00:28:29.560 and serves
00:28:30.020 as an
00:28:30.300 economic
00:28:30.720 boon for
00:28:31.660 these
00:28:32.180 communities.
00:28:33.220 So the
00:28:33.460 suggestion that
00:28:34.020 these are
00:28:34.340 being forced
00:28:34.900 or thrust
00:28:35.680 upon people
00:28:36.400 is certainly
00:28:37.420 not an
00:28:37.960 accurate
00:28:38.260 depiction.
00:28:38.960 That being
00:28:39.360 said,
00:28:39.660 the NDP
00:28:40.260 has endorsed
00:28:41.420 and supports
00:28:42.680 not all of
00:28:43.340 them perhaps,
00:28:43.860 but at least
00:28:44.280 some,
00:28:44.980 the folks who
00:28:45.640 are illegally
00:28:46.340 protesting and
00:28:47.840 blockading this
00:28:49.180 project moving
00:28:49.960 forward.
00:28:50.460 So the NDP,
00:28:51.060 not only are they
00:28:51.620 not condemning
00:28:52.320 it,
00:28:52.740 they're endorsing
00:28:53.460 it.
00:28:53.680 And the
00:28:53.980 troubling thing
00:28:54.520 is as an
00:28:55.080 environmentalist,
00:28:56.400 even if you
00:28:57.040 are a militant
00:28:57.800 environmentalist
00:28:58.560 who is anti-pipeline,
00:29:00.180 this makes your
00:29:01.040 movement look bad.
00:29:02.240 You shouldn't be
00:29:02.860 advocating for
00:29:03.620 this.
00:29:04.320 Everyone across
00:29:05.140 the board,
00:29:05.600 from David Suzuki
00:29:06.400 to the NDP,
00:29:07.780 should be saying
00:29:08.280 this isn't the
00:29:08.960 way we'll fight
00:29:09.580 this in court or
00:29:10.420 we'll have
00:29:10.760 peaceful protests.
00:29:11.680 You know,
00:29:12.900 it's amazing
00:29:13.800 but not surprising.
00:29:15.300 But then again,
00:29:16.400 Adam,
00:29:16.720 our beloved
00:29:17.200 colleague,
00:29:18.000 Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:29:19.180 she wrote that
00:29:19.860 book a few
00:29:20.320 years ago,
00:29:20.880 The Destroyers,
00:29:21.760 about the NDP's
00:29:22.980 rule in Alberta.
00:29:24.560 And certainly
00:29:25.080 Rachel Notley
00:29:25.860 wasn't going
00:29:26.520 about with a
00:29:28.400 band of
00:29:28.800 guerrillas blowing
00:29:30.100 up pipelines,
00:29:30.920 but she was
00:29:31.620 introducing legislation
00:29:33.040 that basically
00:29:34.580 carried out the
00:29:36.360 same effect.
00:29:37.080 So I can see
00:29:37.880 them being on
00:29:38.600 side.
00:29:38.980 But interestingly
00:29:39.960 enough, I
00:29:40.720 believe there
00:29:41.120 was an
00:29:41.400 announcement
00:29:41.820 from the
00:29:43.300 David Suzuki
00:29:44.160 Foundation that
00:29:45.340 were saying,
00:29:46.000 hey, wait a
00:29:46.560 minute, this
00:29:48.580 doesn't represent
00:29:49.380 what we stand
00:29:50.320 for.
00:29:50.800 What's the deal
00:29:51.460 there, Adam?
00:29:52.880 Yeah, well, I
00:29:53.480 know, I think
00:29:54.160 that there is
00:29:54.860 going to be
00:29:55.380 this apologist
00:29:56.260 response, perhaps
00:29:58.940 saying that,
00:30:00.020 well, he was
00:30:00.680 just saying that
00:30:01.480 seems to be the
00:30:02.520 direction it's
00:30:03.320 heading.
00:30:04.100 I would hope
00:30:04.940 to God every
00:30:05.500 organization or
00:30:06.500 anyone with a
00:30:07.100 sober second
00:30:07.720 thought would
00:30:08.740 be trying to
00:30:09.940 retract that
00:30:10.840 statement and
00:30:11.440 issuing a
00:30:13.080 correction or
00:30:13.920 at least an
00:30:14.420 apology to some
00:30:15.440 extent.
00:30:16.060 But I'm certain
00:30:17.960 that the powers
00:30:19.140 that be who
00:30:19.800 fund this stuff
00:30:20.480 globally don't
00:30:22.260 want this sort
00:30:23.100 of militarized
00:30:23.960 action associated
00:30:24.900 with them.
00:30:25.640 Ultimately, when
00:30:26.340 push comes to
00:30:27.040 shove on these
00:30:27.620 issues, when
00:30:28.160 these pipelines
00:30:28.920 get shut down,
00:30:30.500 all that it
00:30:31.080 means is we're
00:30:31.580 bringing in more
00:30:32.380 OPEC oil and
00:30:33.800 we're bringing
00:30:34.180 more international
00:30:35.160 oil in.
00:30:35.740 So there's no
00:30:36.220 lack of funding
00:30:37.640 there or efforts
00:30:38.720 to ensure that
00:30:39.720 our oil does
00:30:40.400 not get around
00:30:41.040 and that it's
00:30:41.500 just international
00:30:42.840 oil coming in.
00:30:44.580 So the people
00:30:45.320 who maybe are
00:30:45.840 making these
00:30:46.340 major donations
00:30:47.220 to the Suzuki
00:30:48.320 Foundation and
00:30:49.120 some of these
00:30:49.500 other organizations,
00:30:51.040 they certainly
00:30:51.700 don't want to be
00:30:52.320 associated with a
00:30:53.280 militarized approach
00:30:54.740 because they are
00:30:55.620 so effective at
00:30:56.460 working behind the
00:30:57.260 scenes, working
00:30:57.880 in the courts,
00:30:58.960 and radicalizing
00:31:00.000 folks, and in a
00:31:01.300 way manipulating
00:31:01.940 the media to
00:31:02.840 garner sympathy.
00:31:04.140 Ultimately, when
00:31:04.780 we're looking at
00:31:05.260 some of these
00:31:05.660 protests, the
00:31:06.420 majority of the
00:31:07.160 indigenous community
00:31:08.380 is in support
00:31:09.300 of this.
00:31:09.960 We have a
00:31:10.420 small sort of
00:31:11.180 subsection of
00:31:12.680 hereditary chiefs
00:31:14.180 who claim that
00:31:14.660 they are in fact
00:31:15.400 entitled to the
00:31:16.140 land, but they're
00:31:17.000 not elected, they
00:31:17.740 don't represent the
00:31:18.600 majority, and
00:31:19.840 these third-party
00:31:21.400 organizations who
00:31:22.360 are advocating
00:31:23.340 against Alberta
00:31:24.880 or Canadian
00:31:25.480 energy are pretty
00:31:27.440 quick to echo
00:31:29.580 or at least
00:31:30.320 magnify the
00:31:31.060 voices of that
00:31:31.660 very small
00:31:32.300 minority when it
00:31:33.040 benefits their
00:31:33.620 interests.
00:31:34.760 No, 100%.
00:31:35.520 Many native
00:31:36.540 leaders recognize
00:31:38.080 and appreciate
00:31:39.020 the great jobs
00:31:41.060 and the great
00:31:41.740 livelihood that
00:31:42.680 comes from
00:31:43.260 working in the
00:31:43.800 oil industry.
00:31:45.080 They're on
00:31:45.600 side.
00:31:46.640 You mentioned
00:31:47.020 hereditary chiefs,
00:31:48.280 and of course,
00:31:49.140 there are what I
00:31:49.740 call the fake
00:31:50.340 Indians, white
00:31:51.100 social justice
00:31:51.960 warriors, Adam,
00:31:53.600 that really don't
00:31:56.120 have the concerns
00:31:56.980 of native bands
00:31:58.220 in their hearts.
00:31:59.980 You mentioned the
00:32:00.800 term ethical
00:32:01.240 oil.
00:32:01.680 I should give a
00:32:02.320 plug to our
00:32:03.380 boss man, Ezra
00:32:04.460 Levent, about 10
00:32:05.400 years ago.
00:32:05.920 He wrote a
00:32:06.320 book by that
00:32:07.200 very title,
00:32:07.920 Ethical Oil.
00:32:08.600 And if anyone
00:32:09.340 wants to do a
00:32:10.500 deep dive about
00:32:11.560 how ethical the
00:32:12.680 oil industry is
00:32:14.120 in Canada,
00:32:15.140 please check out
00:32:16.520 that book.
00:32:17.720 But one other
00:32:18.540 piece of hypocrisy
00:32:19.920 I'd like to
00:32:20.340 address too,
00:32:21.140 Adam, the
00:32:22.220 reaction to
00:32:23.380 Suzuki's comments
00:32:24.540 in the media
00:32:25.580 party, it's been
00:32:27.160 fairly muted.
00:32:28.820 There is no
00:32:29.760 outrage.
00:32:30.460 And what I'm
00:32:30.820 saying is that if
00:32:32.200 there was a
00:32:32.640 public figure and
00:32:34.560 let's say this
00:32:35.340 was a white
00:32:36.480 guy wearing a
00:32:37.540 MAGA hat and
00:32:38.500 he says, I
00:32:39.640 hope, oh, I
00:32:40.620 don't know,
00:32:41.280 statues that
00:32:42.340 have been
00:32:42.580 erected recently
00:32:43.380 of social
00:32:43.960 justice warriors
00:32:44.840 get blown up.
00:32:46.520 Could you
00:32:47.260 imagine the
00:32:48.700 outrage, my
00:32:49.360 friend?
00:32:50.340 Yeah.
00:32:50.620 Even the other
00:32:51.380 night when we
00:32:51.900 were covering
00:32:52.500 this protest,
00:32:53.760 it was very
00:32:54.400 much impromptu,
00:32:55.520 unlike the
00:32:56.200 freedom marches
00:32:57.020 that the police
00:32:57.800 lay out a
00:32:58.360 route and it's
00:32:59.720 non-invasive and
00:33:00.760 it doesn't sort
00:33:01.300 of offset the
00:33:02.120 city too much,
00:33:03.520 it's all planned,
00:33:04.200 they follow the
00:33:04.740 police.
00:33:05.260 This protest last
00:33:06.360 night, with
00:33:06.880 police present,
00:33:07.780 shockingly, the
00:33:08.440 tactical units
00:33:09.240 weren't on hand,
00:33:10.240 they literally
00:33:10.760 blocked like the
00:33:11.580 C train or
00:33:12.260 Calgary transit
00:33:13.020 lines, they
00:33:13.780 blocked numerous
00:33:14.660 other roads off
00:33:15.580 and traffic was
00:33:16.220 at a standstill
00:33:17.020 and it wasn't a
00:33:18.280 coordinated path.
00:33:19.300 Police were
00:33:19.600 basically scrambling
00:33:20.380 to try and keep
00:33:21.120 people away as
00:33:22.120 this protest moved
00:33:22.980 through the city.
00:33:23.980 If there was any
00:33:24.780 sort of conservative
00:33:25.820 movement, let's
00:33:26.720 say it was an
00:33:27.280 anti-masker or an
00:33:28.620 anti-mask rally that
00:33:30.080 blocked the C train
00:33:31.180 lines, the
00:33:32.120 tactical team
00:33:32.880 would be on
00:33:33.340 hand, they would
00:33:33.900 be arrested and
00:33:34.760 charged within
00:33:35.840 minutes and there
00:33:36.680 would be news
00:33:37.420 coverage from
00:33:38.460 every mainstream
00:33:39.340 outlet about how
00:33:40.200 these radicals are
00:33:41.160 blocking hospitals,
00:33:42.580 blocking ambulances,
00:33:43.420 which an ambulance
00:33:44.160 was blocked last
00:33:45.140 night, non-stop,
00:33:47.780 it would just be a
00:33:48.980 constant barrage of
00:33:50.100 how evil these
00:33:50.900 people are and yet
00:33:51.780 that isn't the
00:33:52.940 mainstream narrative
00:33:53.680 when it comes to
00:33:54.780 other groups, it's
00:33:55.840 ideological.
00:33:56.400 Oh, Adam, we
00:33:57.720 don't have to
00:33:58.640 imagine, I can
00:33:59.680 tell you, in
00:34:00.160 Toronto, going back
00:34:00.900 to January, where
00:34:02.080 literally the public
00:34:02.980 square, young
00:34:03.960 Dundas Square, was
00:34:05.420 declared a no-man
00:34:06.420 zone by Mayor
00:34:07.420 Tory and you had
00:34:08.360 protesters standing
00:34:10.260 by themselves with a
00:34:11.380 Canadian flag getting
00:34:12.720 tackled by police
00:34:14.420 officers, cuffed,
00:34:15.920 thrown into police
00:34:17.820 SUVs and paddy
00:34:19.000 wagons.
00:34:19.680 They weren't
00:34:20.080 blocking traffic,
00:34:21.100 they weren't
00:34:21.380 blocking subway
00:34:22.400 trains, they were
00:34:23.660 allegedly using
00:34:25.140 their right to
00:34:26.100 freedom of
00:34:26.760 expression and
00:34:27.500 assembly, which
00:34:28.700 is not a right
00:34:30.560 that's recognized,
00:34:31.500 like I said, right
00:34:32.520 in the public
00:34:33.020 square.
00:34:33.420 The hypocrisy is
00:34:34.720 unbelievable.
00:34:35.520 One last question,
00:34:36.400 Adam.
00:34:36.740 I'm just wondering,
00:34:37.840 it's a hypothetical
00:34:38.540 one, in terms of
00:34:40.360 Suzuki's base, in
00:34:41.800 terms of his fans,
00:34:43.920 do you think the
00:34:44.640 majority are saying,
00:34:46.660 right on, man,
00:34:47.640 let's lock and
00:34:49.320 load, let's carry
00:34:50.220 out some major
00:34:51.460 destruction on those
00:34:52.720 pipelines?
00:34:53.160 Or do you think
00:34:54.140 the majority are
00:34:55.640 saying, you know,
00:34:57.580 this isn't what I
00:34:58.260 signed up for, I
00:34:59.220 don't like pipelines,
00:35:00.560 I want green
00:35:01.420 energy, but I
00:35:02.660 don't want acts
00:35:03.820 of eco-terrorism.
00:35:05.020 What do you think
00:35:05.540 it is, Adam?
00:35:06.920 You know, I think
00:35:07.840 that there is sort
00:35:08.720 of an underlying
00:35:09.540 extremism to
00:35:11.140 eco-hysteria.
00:35:13.480 Case in point, you
00:35:14.640 look at a city
00:35:15.380 council voting
00:35:16.220 virtually unanimously
00:35:17.400 to declare a state
00:35:19.260 of climate
00:35:19.940 emergency.
00:35:21.080 That word
00:35:21.460 emergency is not
00:35:23.140 a measured
00:35:23.640 response.
00:35:24.740 It's a response
00:35:26.160 on the extreme.
00:35:27.120 Often we teach
00:35:27.620 our children, well,
00:35:28.160 you don't say it's
00:35:28.780 an emergency unless
00:35:29.720 it's really an
00:35:30.360 emergency.
00:35:31.500 I think that that
00:35:33.240 mentality and the
00:35:34.560 fear and hysteria
00:35:35.760 that permeates
00:35:36.500 media has rendered
00:35:37.980 people who would
00:35:39.220 otherwise be
00:35:40.200 moderates into
00:35:41.620 extremists.
00:35:42.620 And while I do
00:35:43.220 think they are a
00:35:44.500 loud minority of
00:35:45.900 the broad
00:35:46.720 population, I would
00:35:48.260 not be shocked if
00:35:49.220 among Suzuki
00:35:50.200 supporters and
00:35:51.180 these Extinction
00:35:52.280 Rebellion types,
00:35:54.160 there was an
00:35:55.520 underlying sort
00:35:56.520 of nod of
00:35:57.360 this is the way
00:35:58.380 it's going to
00:35:59.200 be.
00:36:00.040 Sadly, I do
00:36:01.000 think that that
00:36:01.520 extends to an
00:36:02.400 extent within
00:36:03.300 mainstream media.
00:36:04.660 As you said, if
00:36:05.420 you were advocating
00:36:05.980 for any other
00:36:06.820 idea and suggested
00:36:08.200 that if politicians
00:36:09.500 don't step in line,
00:36:11.400 there's going to be
00:36:12.000 bombings, which is
00:36:12.860 terrorism by every
00:36:13.980 metric, any other
00:36:15.620 movement would have
00:36:17.000 massive backlash.
00:36:18.340 Here, you've not
00:36:19.180 seen the Suzuki
00:36:20.080 loyalists saying,
00:36:21.680 well, hold on a
00:36:22.260 second, you've gone
00:36:22.860 too far.
00:36:23.600 They've largely been
00:36:24.960 quiet and being
00:36:25.900 quiet involves a
00:36:27.160 degree of complicity,
00:36:28.120 in my opinion.
00:36:29.380 A hundred percent.
00:36:30.160 And as for Calgary
00:36:31.040 City Council showing
00:36:32.280 sympathy to the
00:36:33.260 anti-pipeline
00:36:34.340 movement, Adam, my
00:36:36.380 God, sometimes I
00:36:38.160 don't recognize the
00:36:39.020 world we're living
00:36:39.620 in.
00:36:39.960 It would be akin to
00:36:41.720 the council in
00:36:43.560 Newcastle being
00:36:44.540 anti-coal.
00:36:45.640 But welcome to
00:36:48.400 the post-COVID
00:36:49.900 world where up is
00:36:51.460 down, yes is no.
00:36:53.380 It's kind of like the
00:36:54.220 bizarro Superman
00:36:55.160 pilot, isn't it?
00:36:57.000 Very much so,
00:36:57.940 entirely.
00:36:58.900 In fact, we do have
00:37:00.040 a doppelganger of
00:37:01.140 our own Sheila
00:37:01.780 Gunn-Reed here, who
00:37:02.700 is like a bizarro.
00:37:03.860 She's always an
00:37:04.440 activist.
00:37:04.980 She's always at the
00:37:05.700 progressive events,
00:37:06.800 but she's a
00:37:07.260 doppelganger.
00:37:08.240 Speaking of Sheila
00:37:08.900 Gunn-Reed, for
00:37:09.560 those who aren't that
00:37:10.460 familiar with David
00:37:11.600 Suzuki, if you go to
00:37:13.100 suzukibook.com,
00:37:14.740 there is the
00:37:16.440 fantastic book,
00:37:17.460 The Case Against
00:37:18.080 David Suzuki, the
00:37:19.080 unauthorized biography
00:37:20.680 by our very own
00:37:21.760 Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:37:22.600 So that's a way to
00:37:23.700 get informed for
00:37:24.320 folks who haven't
00:37:24.960 read the book,
00:37:25.420 maybe.
00:37:26.420 Well, there you go,
00:37:27.040 folks.
00:37:27.300 Adam's provided you
00:37:28.300 the Christmas reading
00:37:29.440 list to while away
00:37:30.900 the days next month,
00:37:32.600 Ethical Oil, The
00:37:33.940 Destroyers, and David
00:37:35.280 Suzuki's unauthorized
00:37:36.480 biography.
00:37:37.500 They're all wonderful
00:37:38.580 page turners.
00:37:39.880 Adam, thank you so
00:37:40.620 much for that excellent
00:37:41.380 report, and thank you
00:37:42.600 for joining me on
00:37:43.320 Roundup.
00:37:44.300 Happy to be here.
00:37:44.980 Thanks, Dave.
00:37:45.520 You got it.
00:37:46.560 And that was Adam
00:37:47.800 Seuss in Calgary.
00:37:49.260 Keep it here, folks.
00:37:50.400 More of Rebel
00:37:50.920 Roundup to come right
00:37:52.060 after this.
00:37:52.600 Folks, I'm outside the
00:37:59.180 Toronto District School
00:38:00.540 Board headquarters.
00:38:02.540 There are dozens of
00:38:03.820 teachers here who are
00:38:05.740 not revealing their
00:38:07.440 medical status or they
00:38:09.040 are saying, no, we will
00:38:10.560 not get jabbed with the
00:38:12.520 COVID-19 vaccines.
00:38:14.540 And what can I tell you,
00:38:15.760 folks?
00:38:15.960 The clock is ticking this
00:38:17.920 Sunday, November 21st.
00:38:19.700 That's when they have to
00:38:22.200 make that decision.
00:38:23.300 If you don't reveal your
00:38:24.340 status or agree to get
00:38:25.460 vaccinated, you are
00:38:27.160 terminated as of Monday,
00:38:29.460 November 22nd.
00:38:32.060 Well, it's funny, isn't it,
00:38:34.240 folks?
00:38:34.840 The TDSB and so many
00:38:36.700 other school boards,
00:38:37.980 they've always been about
00:38:39.600 anti-bullying, right?
00:38:41.700 They've always been about
00:38:43.320 reasonable accommodation.
00:38:45.960 The question arises, why
00:38:48.600 won't they reasonably
00:38:49.700 accommodate these teachers?
00:38:52.000 Why are they using bully
00:38:53.720 boy tactics to get their
00:38:55.540 way?
00:38:56.240 We're going to ask some of
00:38:57.160 these teachers to come on
00:38:58.160 camera and hear what they
00:38:59.960 have to say about their
00:39:01.400 school board turning against
00:39:03.060 them and their unions
00:39:04.780 abandoning them.
00:39:06.620 Your sign says, stop the
00:39:08.920 experiment.
00:39:09.840 www.hadenoughyet.ca.
00:39:15.520 So what is it you're trying
00:39:16.920 to convey here today, Matt?
00:39:18.960 Well, exactly what it says
00:39:20.720 because the products that
00:39:22.460 they want to inject into
00:39:23.560 everybody haven't actually
00:39:25.380 finished the phase three
00:39:26.740 trials.
00:39:27.700 Right.
00:39:28.140 And I guess it's one thing,
00:39:30.700 even if this is an
00:39:31.880 experimental vaccine, it's
00:39:34.260 one thing for a citizen to
00:39:35.780 have choice in the matter.
00:39:37.180 But what we're seeing
00:39:38.620 increasingly is coercion by
00:39:41.280 employers, by the
00:39:42.340 government, by this very
00:39:44.200 school board.
00:39:44.920 You either get the jabs or
00:39:46.620 you lose your job.
00:39:47.600 So there would seem to be an
00:39:50.120 ethical or moral, you
00:39:52.520 know, problem with that, I
00:39:53.780 would think.
00:39:54.580 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:39:55.600 That's a huge one right now.
00:39:56.820 And a lot of people are
00:39:57.880 speaking out of out of it on
00:39:59.640 that side that don't even
00:40:00.800 like that aren't even, you
00:40:03.040 know, anti-vaxxers per se.
00:40:04.680 Some people have, you know,
00:40:06.080 always had vaccines, but
00:40:07.180 this one is different.
00:40:08.260 Do you feel that teachers
00:40:11.140 that are not divulging their
00:40:13.440 vaccine status, teachers that
00:40:15.160 are saying, I am not getting
00:40:16.340 the jab, do you think that's a
00:40:18.140 form of bullying by the board
00:40:20.040 to its employees?
00:40:22.040 Absolutely.
00:40:23.520 You know, we were expected to
00:40:25.740 watch an educational video
00:40:28.220 by the board to discuss and to
00:40:32.360 hear about the vaccine and the
00:40:34.240 safety, and there was a few
00:40:35.820 slides that had a huge kind of
00:40:39.680 anti-bullying, safe spaces, safe
00:40:43.220 environment, propaganda.
00:40:46.980 And as I was watching this, I
00:40:49.440 thought, well, isn't this a
00:40:50.520 little bit ironic and
00:40:51.880 hypocritical to preach us about
00:40:55.360 the importance of having a safe
00:40:57.220 environment to work in and no
00:40:59.640 toxicity, but at the same time
00:41:02.280 coercing us, forcing us, really
00:41:05.520 not giving us any choice to what
00:41:08.100 we want to do with our bodies and
00:41:09.660 taking our, you know, economic
00:41:11.760 freedom away and taking, taking
00:41:14.060 for a lot of us, you know, there
00:41:15.460 are a lot of people who are, who
00:41:16.560 don't have a spouse, a partner,
00:41:19.860 they're sole breadwinners.
00:41:21.280 Well, folks, that was the scene
00:41:22.820 last Friday in Toronto when
00:41:24.940 dozens of teachers who face an
00:41:27.520 economic death sentence protested
00:41:30.240 outside the headquarters of the
00:41:32.440 TDSB, a school board that now
00:41:35.360 subscribes to bullying and
00:41:38.000 non-accommodation, at least when
00:41:40.360 it comes to forcing its employees
00:41:43.100 ranging from teachers to
00:41:45.000 custodians to get the COVID-19
00:41:47.360 jab.
00:41:48.420 Yep, today's lesson, kids, C, as
00:41:51.160 in C for coercion.
00:41:53.640 And in the event, you had plenty to
00:41:55.540 say about the Toronto District
00:41:57.560 School Board's draconian demands
00:41:59.780 and the fact that the various
00:42:02.520 teachers unions have no problem
00:42:05.140 whatsoever with that particular
00:42:07.620 mandate baffling.
00:42:10.700 Baltazar Gapka writes, for the
00:42:12.800 first time in history, the
00:42:14.540 ineffectedness of a medicine is
00:42:17.380 being blamed on those who refuse
00:42:19.900 to take it.
00:42:21.580 Well, you are correct, sir.
00:42:23.120 And, you know, I think of the words
00:42:25.360 of Dr. Julie Panessi of the
00:42:27.720 Democracy Fund in that speech she
00:42:30.200 made at last Saturday's Freedom
00:42:31.940 Rally in London, Ontario.
00:42:34.180 Check it out.
00:42:35.280 Why, as a nurse recently asked,
00:42:38.880 do the protected need to be
00:42:41.100 protected from the unprotected by
00:42:44.100 forcing the unprotected to use the
00:42:46.340 protection that didn't protect them
00:42:48.000 in the first place?
00:42:49.000 Well said.
00:42:51.760 Sebastian Desley writes, time to
00:42:54.680 arrest these tyrants.
00:42:56.740 Well, Sebastian, there is plenty of
00:42:59.280 tyranny on display these days, that's
00:43:01.400 for sure.
00:43:02.080 But the tyrants aren't going to jail.
00:43:04.420 Rather, those who are ending up in
00:43:06.480 the slammer are the likes of
00:43:07.840 restaurateurs and pastors, you know,
00:43:10.760 law-abiding taxpayers who are merely
00:43:13.260 standing up for their rights.
00:43:14.900 The world is truly upside down these
00:43:18.280 days, and I think it's going to
00:43:20.200 remain in that position for years to
00:43:23.120 come.
00:43:24.860 Larkin Equity North Carolina writes,
00:43:27.980 if they fire those teachers, do they
00:43:30.000 lose their pensions?
00:43:31.620 Well, you know, great question, sir.
00:43:33.160 I'll look into this.
00:43:34.720 We know that these firings are being
00:43:36.600 deemed as termination with cause,
00:43:39.540 meaning no benefits, including
00:43:41.740 employment insurance.
00:43:43.100 You've got to believe the TDSB would
00:43:46.240 love to further punish the so-called
00:43:48.780 Covid-iots by taking away their
00:43:51.120 pensions, too.
00:43:52.280 The question arises, does the school
00:43:53.900 board have this power?
00:43:55.680 Stay tuned for that one.
00:43:57.780 Jason R. writes, quit your job.
00:44:00.380 They don't care about the unvaccinated.
00:44:03.020 Stop slaving for people that won't even
00:44:05.660 let you eat at a restaurant.
00:44:08.080 Well, Jason, I'm sorry, but easier said
00:44:10.660 than done.
00:44:11.880 Everyone has to pay the rent or the
00:44:14.000 mortgage.
00:44:14.640 Everyone has to put bread on the table.
00:44:17.360 This is what is so insidious about
00:44:20.060 mandatory vax policies.
00:44:22.600 It is indeed an economic death sentence.
00:44:25.420 I spoke to some teachers that day that
00:44:27.800 told me they're going to have to sell
00:44:29.800 their houses to stay afloat.
00:44:32.100 Luckily, the real estate market in Toronto
00:44:34.160 remains red hot.
00:44:35.640 But this is a shame, nevertheless.
00:44:40.180 And aka Thardos writes, so the school
00:44:43.800 board takes full responsibility for any
00:44:46.680 adverse reaction to the jab and they will
00:44:49.580 look after your family for life?
00:44:52.740 Oh, absolutely not, aka Thardos.
00:44:56.500 The position of the school board boils down
00:44:58.640 to this.
00:44:59.620 Trust us.
00:45:00.260 No employer on the planet is going to put
00:45:04.040 their money where their mouth is when it
00:45:06.140 comes to signing a document that states they
00:45:09.120 will be responsible for any adverse health
00:45:12.100 effects.
00:45:13.260 But why?
00:45:14.600 Aren't we told repeatedly by the doctors that
00:45:18.240 this vaccine is perfectly safe?
00:45:21.700 Or is it?
00:45:23.500 Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel
00:45:25.960 Roundup.
00:45:26.480 Thanks so much for joining us.
00:45:27.720 See you next week and hey folks, never forget
00:45:30.980 without risk, there can be no glory.
00:45:33.420 Good night.