Rebel News Podcast - DAVID MENZIES ｜ Rebel vs. Elections Commissioner, David Suzuki's threats and teachers bullied into vaccines

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00:01:14.420 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,

00:01:32.560 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite Rebels.

00:01:37.740 I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:01:39.660 Well, who would have thought that a billboard message about a failed Albertan education minister

00:01:45.600 would cause such turmoil?

00:01:48.740 But our Fire Egan saga continues.

00:01:52.180 Sheila Gunn-Reed has the latest details in our fight for freedom of expression.

00:01:58.240 So how much does David Suzuki hate pipelines?

00:02:01.600 Well, he'd like to see them blowed up real good, to quote SCTV's Big Jim McBob.

00:02:07.320 Alas, there's absolutely nothing funny about acts of eco-terrorism.

00:02:12.660 Adam Seuss has all the details.

00:02:15.400 And letters, we get your letters.

00:02:16.900 We get them every minute of every day.

00:02:18.940 And you had plenty to say regarding my report on the Toronto District School Board

00:02:23.660 actually bullying its teachers and other staffers to get jabbed or else lose their jobs.

00:02:30.700 Say, whatever happened to zero tolerance for bullying?

00:02:34.080 Whatever happened to reasonable accommodation?

00:02:38.160 And say, where the hell are the various teachers unions when the rank and file really, really need them?

00:02:46.360 Those are your Rebels.

00:02:47.700 Now let's round them up.

00:02:48.860 I'm very sorry to have to report to you that a three-judge panel has upheld a lower provincial court decision,

00:03:00.840 a judicial review, that upheld a reprimand issued against us at Rebel News

00:03:06.660 for putting up a billboard way back in late 2018.

00:03:10.820 Now for those of you who have not been following this story closely, it's wild.

00:03:17.400 It's a story of government overreach, political censorship, and a complete and total lack of due process.

00:03:23.660 It's been a fight for editorial freedom and fair treatment under the law,

00:03:27.600 while an out-of-control elections bureaucrat used elections finance laws

00:03:33.300 to try to censor journalists for being vocal critics of the government of the day.

00:03:39.420 Now, like I said, the story, it goes back a couple of years.

00:03:43.120 It's two years and then some in the making.

00:03:44.960 I'll give you a short version, but you can see all of our reporting,

00:03:48.660 our legal filings, and our communications,

00:03:51.160 and you can also support our legal fight at rebeltrial.com.

00:03:56.140 It's all there for you to see.

00:03:58.200 The whole thing started way back in late November 2018,

00:04:01.100 when we put up a billboard calling on then-premier Rachel Notley

00:04:05.060 to fire her own education minister, David Egan,

00:04:08.560 because Egan had failed Alberta students.

00:04:11.220 Forty percent of grade nine kids were failing in math.

00:04:15.160 Now, in mid-December of the same year,

00:04:17.400 we received a letter from the elections commissioner in Alberta,

00:04:21.180 who, like Rachel Notley, was subsequently fired by the United Conservative Party.

00:04:26.140 That letter said we were being investigated

00:04:27.820 because our billboard allegedly broke elections finance laws

00:04:31.760 and that we should have registered as a third-party political advertiser

00:04:36.060 before putting it up.

00:04:37.380 We were not in an election, and we are not advertisers.

00:04:41.520 We are journalists expressing our opinions the same way

00:04:44.620 you might see on any given day on the editorial pages of a failing newspaper.

00:04:49.580 We just express our editorial opinions in a more interesting and compelling way.

00:04:53.960 So we lawyered up and sent a letter back.

00:04:57.360 January 9th, our lawyers told the elections cops

00:05:00.280 it was our intention to fight back, and we would be presenting evidence.

00:05:06.180 Just five days later, on January 14th, we received yet another letter,

00:05:11.280 a notice of adverse finding, a conviction from the elections commissioner,

00:05:16.560 telling us they had already convicted us

00:05:18.720 and that they wanted to talk to us about the size of the fines

00:05:22.440 they were going to issue us.

00:05:24.860 That was the only conversation they wanted to have.

00:05:27.420 No trial, no evidence.

00:05:29.240 And unlike a real court,

00:05:31.220 the elections commissioner plays every role

00:05:33.740 in the quasi-judicial theater of elections crimes.

00:05:37.320 He's the cop,

00:05:38.580 he's the judge,

00:05:40.180 he's the jury,

00:05:41.860 and he's the executioner.

00:05:43.380 The whole thing is insane.

00:05:45.580 It's our right as journalists to be critical of the government

00:05:47.980 without having to register

00:05:49.520 our objections with the government

00:05:53.220 as a third-party advertiser.

00:05:56.420 And we absolutely have a right to defend ourselves

00:05:59.620 against any allegations that we broke the law

00:06:01.860 in a real court,

00:06:03.780 not some quasi-kangaroo charade

00:06:06.800 where one guy who doesn't like you for political reasons

00:06:09.760 accuses you of wrongdoing

00:06:11.020 and then also appoints himself the decider of the case too.

00:06:14.920 So, we growled back at the government

00:06:17.120 and they backed down,

00:06:19.080 but only sort of.

00:06:21.180 They told us we wouldn't be getting any fines for our wrongdoing,

00:06:24.400 we'd be getting a reprimand.

00:06:26.120 But for what?

00:06:27.480 We don't take reprimands from elections cops

00:06:29.720 for speaking our minds.

00:06:31.920 Even witches were able to face their accusers 0.97

00:06:35.240 at a show trial.

00:06:36.400 We, at Rebel News,

00:06:37.580 we didn't even get that much.

00:06:39.800 Holy Halloween.

00:06:41.140 Imagine that, folks.

00:06:42.600 Accused witches back in Salem in the 1600s

00:06:46.180 actually had more rights

00:06:48.460 than we have in Alberta of 21st century.

00:06:53.880 How can this be?

00:06:55.460 And where do we go from here

00:06:57.600 in terms of, oh, I don't know,

00:07:00.120 standing up for freedom?

00:07:01.540 How is it that a billboard is so triggering

00:07:06.480 to certain bureaucrats?

00:07:09.280 And joining me now with more on this story

00:07:11.420 is our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:07:14.360 How are you doing there, Sheila?

00:07:16.000 I'm great, David.

00:07:17.060 Thanks for having me on the show.

00:07:18.880 You know, Sheila, it's a pleasure as always,

00:07:21.480 but this story boils my blood.

00:07:24.360 How is it that this billboard

00:07:28.240 is so egregious

00:07:30.660 in the eyes of the bureaucracy in Alberta?

00:07:34.440 Why is this thing even a thing?

00:07:37.840 Well, and that really is the thing, David,

00:07:40.980 because we were tried like witches

00:07:44.880 behind our backs,

00:07:46.420 never even allowed to participate in the process

00:07:48.560 for breaking elections finance laws,

00:07:53.540 engaging in third-party political advertising.

00:07:56.960 But we were not in an election

00:07:59.180 and we are not third-party political advertisers.

00:08:02.340 We are journalists

00:08:03.160 and we publish an opinion on a billboard,

00:08:05.480 which is exactly what the failing mainstream media

00:08:08.300 does every day in the pages

00:08:09.980 of the editorial section.

00:08:12.180 We just did it on a billboard

00:08:13.320 where people will actually see it

00:08:15.100 because nobody reads terrestrial newspapers anymore.

00:08:17.820 And our billboard was simple.

00:08:20.260 It called on Rachel Notley

00:08:21.760 to fire her own education minister

00:08:24.820 for failing Alberta students.

00:08:27.100 We weren't advocating for a political party.

00:08:30.300 We were calling for accountability

00:08:31.780 from the existing party of the day.

00:08:33.740 And because of that,

00:08:35.120 we were found guilty, really,

00:08:38.860 behind our backs by the elections commissioner,

00:08:42.140 a position that actually doesn't exist anymore.

00:08:44.260 It was killed by Jason Kenney.

00:08:47.820 What they did was they sent us a notice of adverse finding,

00:08:55.820 a notice of adverse finding,

00:08:57.500 which means they were notifying us

00:08:59.500 that they had an adverse finding against us,

00:09:01.880 which is a conviction.

00:09:03.260 And the only thing they wanted to talk about with us

00:09:05.740 was fines.

00:09:07.040 And when I compared this to a witch trial,

00:09:09.380 are they going to dunk us in the river

00:09:10.680 and see if we float?

00:09:11.600 Or are they going to burn us at the stake?

00:09:13.620 But either way,

00:09:14.420 they had found us guilty behind our back.

00:09:16.480 And we said,

00:09:17.960 oh, no, that's not going to fly.

00:09:21.180 We need a chance to present our evidence.

00:09:24.500 And that's when they backed off

00:09:27.380 and issued us a reprimand.

00:09:29.780 And that brings us to today,

00:09:32.200 because we don't accept a reprimand.

00:09:34.080 We don't think we should ever have to register our opinions

00:09:38.680 as journalists with the government

00:09:40.520 before we express them in a way that we see fit,

00:09:44.160 not the government.

00:09:45.500 And we are appealing the reprimand

00:09:47.320 because it was given to us without due process.

00:09:50.040 There was like four or five days

00:09:52.200 between when we said to them,

00:09:55.460 basically,

00:09:57.160 we are willing to participate in your investigation

00:09:59.940 and the time they found us guilty.

00:10:02.240 So we appealed.

00:10:04.640 We brought it to a judicial review.

00:10:08.120 And the judicial review found against us.

00:10:11.280 So we appealed that.

00:10:12.860 They found against us again.

00:10:14.440 So now we're seeking leave to appeal this decision

00:10:16.740 all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada.

00:10:18.600 And who knows if they will accept our attempted appeal.

00:10:22.420 But all we can do is try

00:10:23.720 because free speech itself

00:10:25.160 and due process for all people depend on it.

00:10:28.740 You know, and this is the thing.

00:10:29.820 I don't understand why we've lost

00:10:31.760 these judicial reviews, Sheila.

00:10:33.920 I mean, I look at that billboard.

00:10:37.600 Nothing about it is, you know,

00:10:39.380 from a journalistic point of view,

00:10:41.340 defamatory or slanderous or libelous.

00:10:44.660 Indeed, it's actually quite factual

00:10:46.900 in terms of the Alberta school scores

00:10:50.620 plummeting under Mr. Reagan.

00:10:52.840 So, you know, like I said,

00:10:56.380 I'm still grasping as to

00:10:58.640 what the crime committed was here.

00:11:01.600 Is it hurting the feelings

00:11:03.740 of a former minister?

00:11:07.500 You know what?

00:11:08.420 I think that's really

00:11:09.640 what was at the

00:11:11.820 crux of the initial complaint against us

00:11:15.360 was that we were being a little bit harsh

00:11:18.360 with the government of the day

00:11:19.700 and they didn't like that.

00:11:20.700 And we know that this elections commissioner position,

00:11:24.000 it was weaponized against

00:11:26.320 so many of Rachel Notley's critics

00:11:28.440 from pro-life groups

00:11:30.340 to municipal accountability groups.

00:11:33.940 Alberta Can't Wait ended up in trouble. 1.00

00:11:36.840 So it was really a lot of people

00:11:38.820 from the right side of the political spectrum

00:11:40.800 or even single issue people

00:11:42.860 like pro-life groups

00:11:44.240 who didn't like

00:11:47.340 what the government of the day was doing.

00:11:49.000 They were under attack constantly

00:11:51.620 by the weaponized elections bureaucracy

00:11:54.540 using this third-party advertiser law

00:11:57.480 as a tool of censorship.

00:11:59.540 And a lot of people just paid the fine

00:12:03.280 because paying the fine

00:12:04.980 is so often cheaper than it.

00:12:06.820 But then they came across Rebel News

00:12:08.960 and we were not going to pay the fine.

00:12:10.580 But even crazier,

00:12:12.600 we would not accept a reprimand.

00:12:14.300 So a non-monetary reprimand,

00:12:16.380 we are appealing all the way

00:12:18.300 to the Supreme Court

00:12:19.280 because we don't register

00:12:21.960 our opinions with the government

00:12:23.460 and we will not concede to them

00:12:25.500 the right to reprimand us

00:12:26.820 for our opinions.

00:12:28.420 Oh, 100%, Sheila.

00:12:29.380 And it is not about the money.

00:12:31.260 I know a lot of people say that

00:12:32.560 when they're in litigation.

00:12:33.560 It's not about the money

00:12:34.700 and it bloody well is about the money.

00:12:36.820 But it's about the principle.

00:12:38.600 It's about freedom of expression,

00:12:40.780 freedom of speech,

00:12:42.180 freedom of the press.

00:12:43.280 And I see that so under attack

00:12:45.860 in little ways.

00:12:47.940 Sheila, earlier this month,

00:12:49.680 a homeowner in Port Colborne, Ontario,

00:12:52.380 had one of those F Trudeau flags

00:12:54.940 flying from his home.

00:12:56.280 And he's being told by bylaw,

00:12:57.700 you got to take it down

00:12:58.760 or you're going to be fined.

00:13:00.220 And thankfully,

00:13:01.320 he's not bending the knee,

00:13:02.440 put a second flag up.

00:13:04.020 I interviewed last night

00:13:04.920 for an upcoming video,

00:13:05.980 a man with a video sign in his car.

00:13:10.500 He puts out cheeky political messages.

00:13:13.760 He was given a ticket

00:13:14.860 by a police officer

00:13:16.280 with Waterloo Regional Police

00:13:17.800 for a non-existent crime.

00:13:20.960 I checked with the Ministry of Transport.

00:13:23.500 The point is,

00:13:24.320 is that little by little,

00:13:26.760 people, individuals, companies

00:13:28.940 are getting censored

00:13:30.380 and that's just not right.

00:13:33.140 Yeah.

00:13:33.700 Remember how much things have changed,

00:13:35.860 though, now that the people

00:13:37.060 on the right side of the aisle

00:13:39.080 are pushing back?

00:13:40.040 Do you remember the guy

00:13:41.740 who had the F Harper car?

00:13:45.000 Yes.

00:13:45.280 And he would drive it around

00:13:46.320 and there were articles

00:13:47.320 written about like how like endearing

00:13:50.380 and cheeky this guy was.

00:13:52.520 And it was,

00:13:53.420 he was sort of a darling

00:13:55.280 of the mainstream media

00:13:56.780 because this guy

00:13:58.620 in the mainstream media

00:13:59.500 had the same political enemy.

00:14:01.820 And you preface that

00:14:03.460 with the coverage now

00:14:04.700 of anybody who holds a sign

00:14:07.540 that is critical of Trudeau

00:14:10.080 or cheekily chants,

00:14:11.780 lock her up 0.79

00:14:12.480 about Rachel Notley.

00:14:13.640 People were losing their minds,

00:14:15.020 literally losing their minds

00:14:16.180 about people chanting,

00:14:17.760 lock her up,

00:14:18.460 just as like a tongue-in-cheek chant

00:14:20.300 about Rachel Notley.

00:14:21.260 As we're filming this,

00:14:23.480 I'm actually on a break

00:14:24.820 from court

00:14:25.920 because I'm covering

00:14:26.860 a hearing for Pastor Art Poloski

00:14:31.420 and Chris Scott.

00:14:33.040 And what is happening

00:14:35.360 in court today

00:14:36.080 is lawyers for Chris Scott

00:14:37.620 and Pastor Art

00:14:38.640 are trying to get a stay

00:14:39.900 of their sanctions.

00:14:40.600 So they're trying to get

00:14:41.400 the sanctions

00:14:42.100 that they received

00:14:43.120 put on hold

00:14:44.360 until they can appeal

00:14:45.500 those sanctions.

00:14:46.380 And it's interesting

00:14:48.180 that we are bringing up

00:14:49.580 our reprimand

00:14:52.060 for being critical

00:14:52.920 of the government

00:14:53.680 because now

00:14:54.640 it's not just companies

00:14:56.360 and news agencies

00:14:57.380 like us

00:14:57.960 that are being reprimanded

00:14:59.180 for being critical

00:14:59.780 of the government.

00:15:00.780 These guys

00:15:01.900 are really,

00:15:03.020 truly being reprimanded

00:15:04.020 for being critical

00:15:04.560 of the government

00:15:05.080 because their sanctions,

00:15:06.980 including one

00:15:07.640 that compels them

00:15:08.540 to give government

00:15:09.480 lockdown salesmen

00:15:10.980 talking points

00:15:11.700 before they give

00:15:12.740 their own opinion

00:15:13.720 on lockdowns,

00:15:15.360 they're experiencing

00:15:16.240 the same thing.

00:15:17.860 Their sanctions

00:15:19.000 do not do anything

00:15:21.600 to deal with the order

00:15:24.400 that they are in contempt of,

00:15:26.020 an illegal public gathering.

00:15:28.220 Their order,

00:15:29.260 their sanctions

00:15:30.300 are there to protect

00:15:32.960 the government's hurt feelings,

00:15:34.660 which is exactly

00:15:35.460 what happened to us.

00:15:36.440 So it started

00:15:37.260 with a reprimand

00:15:38.340 for us a couple years ago

00:15:40.500 and now it's made its way

00:15:42.000 all into,

00:15:43.140 like,

00:15:43.500 the court

00:15:44.060 where regular citizens

00:15:45.680 who are trying

00:15:46.700 to be critics

00:15:47.260 of the government policies

00:15:48.620 that are closing

00:15:49.460 their churches

00:15:50.000 and closing their businesses,

00:15:51.540 they are having

00:15:52.700 compelled speech,

00:15:53.620 what they call

00:15:54.000 qualified speech

00:15:55.280 in court today,

00:15:56.380 as though it makes

00:15:56.980 any sort of difference.

00:15:58.400 And it's the kind of thing

00:15:59.620 that it's,

00:16:01.820 it's the,

00:16:02.980 it's something

00:16:03.520 that we see

00:16:04.140 in the more authoritarian

00:16:05.420 and odious regimes

00:16:06.680 in the world.

00:16:07.220 We don't expect

00:16:08.340 to see this in Canada,

00:16:09.320 but in three short years

00:16:10.800 it went from a reprimand

00:16:12.060 for a billboard

00:16:12.780 to us

00:16:14.500 for being critical

00:16:15.760 of the government

00:16:16.280 to people being

00:16:18.480 compelled

00:16:19.380 under force

00:16:21.320 of the court

00:16:22.100 to give

00:16:22.900 the government's side.

00:16:24.580 That's how quickly

00:16:25.340 the needle has shifted

00:16:26.400 and that's why

00:16:27.400 we have to fight

00:16:28.260 the reprimand

00:16:29.060 just as fiercely

00:16:30.320 as we have to fight

00:16:31.180 for Chris Scott

00:16:31.820 and Pastor Art

00:16:32.940 in court right now.

00:16:33.820 But you know what, Sheila?

00:16:35.340 At least Chris Scott

00:16:36.620 and Pastor Art

00:16:37.480 are getting a day

00:16:38.400 in court.

00:16:39.280 Originally,

00:16:40.140 we didn't have

00:16:41.160 that opportunity

00:16:41.820 and it reminds me

00:16:42.700 of what happened

00:16:43.320 in Hamilton to me

00:16:44.820 in the summertime.

00:16:45.760 I was covering a protest,

00:16:47.280 I was practicing journalism

00:16:48.440 and a bylaw officer

00:16:49.860 with a telephoto lens

00:16:51.220 photographed me

00:16:52.760 for breaking

00:16:54.240 social distancing rules

00:16:55.760 and sent me a ticket,

00:16:57.680 it's called an AMPS ticket,

00:16:59.500 by email,

00:17:00.680 I thought it was a scam

00:17:01.660 at first,

00:17:02.480 for $360.

00:17:04.520 And you cannot

00:17:06.120 challenge this in court.

00:17:07.800 And the Supreme Court

00:17:08.600 of Canada ruled

00:17:09.820 that these AMPS tickets

00:17:11.000 back in 2016,

00:17:12.400 it's completely fine.

00:17:14.520 This is an affront

00:17:15.820 to the justice system,

00:17:18.080 the idea that you're

00:17:19.080 innocent until proven guilty.

00:17:22.140 There is so much wrong

00:17:23.580 with this story.

00:17:24.540 The fact that it's happening

00:17:25.540 in Jason Kenney's Alberta

00:17:27.360 is another factor.

00:17:29.600 One last question, Sheila.

00:17:31.320 Where do we go from here

00:17:32.880 and how can people

00:17:34.220 pitch in to help us out,

00:17:36.500 I think,

00:17:37.120 on a very important

00:17:38.280 and profound case?

00:17:41.140 That's the thing.

00:17:41.940 This is very important

00:17:43.000 and profound

00:17:43.600 because we are

00:17:44.440 rapidly approaching

00:17:45.800 the next election cycle

00:17:47.260 in Alberta.

00:17:49.060 And this isn't just

00:17:50.060 free speech for us,

00:17:51.040 it's free speech

00:17:51.760 for people on the other

00:17:52.680 side of the aisle, too,

00:17:53.880 who are going to be critics

00:17:57.200 of anything conservative.

00:17:58.580 We're also fighting

00:18:00.000 for them so that

00:18:00.840 these third-party

00:18:01.520 advertiser laws

00:18:02.340 are not weaponized

00:18:03.520 against them, too.

00:18:05.060 And because of the lack

00:18:06.420 of due process for us,

00:18:08.360 because they said

00:18:09.260 the only communications

00:18:10.600 they were going to have

00:18:11.360 with us after this

00:18:13.100 notice of adverse finding,

00:18:15.200 which is a conviction,

00:18:16.640 before we had evidence,

00:18:18.640 we are seeking leave

00:18:20.600 to appeal this all the way

00:18:21.760 to the Supreme Court

00:18:22.500 of Canada.

00:18:23.100 Now, I'm going to be honest

00:18:24.520 with you.

00:18:24.900 This is a bit of a Hail Mary thing,

00:18:26.380 but what else can we do?

00:18:28.620 What else can we do?

00:18:30.260 So, again,

00:18:32.100 these are very expensive

00:18:33.840 propositions.

00:18:35.760 I mean, we're going

00:18:36.380 all the way

00:18:36.800 to the Supreme Court

00:18:37.700 of Canada.

00:18:38.700 And, for some reason,

00:18:40.820 Jason Kenney,

00:18:41.800 the so-called conservative,

00:18:43.280 his government

00:18:43.900 is fighting us

00:18:44.620 every step of the way

00:18:45.880 instead of just saying,

00:18:47.920 you know, this is madness.

00:18:49.020 It's a non-monetary

00:18:50.100 reprimand for nothing.

00:18:52.520 They didn't do anything wrong.

00:18:53.860 Let's just drop this.

00:18:55.060 But we are seeking leave

00:18:57.200 to appeal it all the way

00:18:58.060 to the Supreme Court.

00:18:59.300 Supreme Court may or may not

00:19:01.320 agree to hear our appeal.

00:19:03.260 But, like I said,

00:19:03.880 what else can we do?

00:19:05.160 We're up against the deep pockets

00:19:06.820 of the government.

00:19:07.660 They've got all of your money

00:19:08.840 to fight us with.

00:19:10.160 We have to rely on

00:19:11.380 our viewers at home.

00:19:12.720 And if people want to pitch in

00:19:13.940 to cover our legal costs,

00:19:15.320 they can do that

00:19:15.960 at rebeltrial.com.

00:19:17.660 And the great thing

00:19:18.300 about rebeltrial.com

00:19:19.680 is you can see

00:19:21.100 everything in real time.

00:19:23.260 You can see them saying,

00:19:24.620 we've opened an investigation,

00:19:26.080 us saying, okay, let's rumble,

00:19:28.160 and then saying,

00:19:29.800 oh, by the way,

00:19:30.380 we found you guilty.

00:19:31.920 And here's what

00:19:33.320 we're going to talk about.

00:19:34.140 We're going to talk about fines.

00:19:35.140 It was like days apart.

00:19:36.900 So you can see all of that,

00:19:38.200 all of our back and forth,

00:19:39.380 all of our communications

00:19:40.420 with Alberta Health Services.

00:19:42.160 You can see that in real time

00:19:43.720 at that same website.

00:19:44.900 So you can see all the work

00:19:46.220 that our lawyers are doing.

00:19:47.520 You can follow along

00:19:48.240 with the case chronologically.

00:19:49.760 That's at rebeltrial.com.

00:19:51.600 Fantastic, Sheila.

00:19:53.580 And at least there's

00:19:54.160 a silver lining here.

00:19:55.140 And I'm speaking of

00:19:55.800 all those media companies

00:19:56.980 that as a sign of solidarity

00:19:58.900 are coming to our defense.

00:20:00.920 No, of course, I'm jesting.

00:20:02.220 They're actually cheering

00:20:03.000 on the government.

00:20:04.740 Where are they?

00:20:06.740 Maybe 20 years ago,

00:20:08.200 but not anymore.

00:20:09.460 Sheila, fantastic report.

00:20:11.520 A very important story.

00:20:13.120 I know you're going

00:20:13.680 to be on top of it.

00:20:14.980 Can't wait for an update.

00:20:16.380 Hopefully it's a favorable one.

00:20:18.400 Thank you so much.

00:20:20.180 Thanks, David.

00:20:20.860 Have a great weekend.

00:20:22.080 You too, my friend.

00:20:22.880 And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:20:25.380 somewhere in the hinterland

00:20:26.980 of northern Alberta.

00:20:28.600 Keep it here, folks.

00:20:29.580 More of Rebel Roundup

00:20:30.420 to come right after this.

00:20:36.820 I am joined by a very special guest,

00:20:40.100 member of Legislative Assembly

00:20:41.900 and Minister of Environment

00:20:43.640 and Parks for Alberta,

00:20:46.080 Jason Nixon.

00:20:47.120 This morning,

00:20:47.700 we were watching

00:20:48.500 the proceedings in legislature

00:20:49.760 and we were talking about

00:20:51.100 on our live stream

00:20:52.080 the troubling remarks

00:20:53.860 from David Suzuki,

00:20:55.680 remarks that if anyone

00:20:57.380 on the Conservative side

00:20:58.600 would say anything comparable

00:20:59.820 to, there'd undoubtedly

00:21:00.900 be investigations,

00:21:02.240 allegations of threats.

00:21:04.600 virtual silence across the board

00:21:07.600 from pundits,

00:21:09.260 the CBC barely covering this.

00:21:11.520 This is what we're come to.

00:21:13.160 The next stage after this

00:21:14.400 is there are going to be

00:21:15.280 pipelines blown up

00:21:16.360 if our leaders don't pay attention

00:21:18.460 to what's going on.

00:21:19.500 The next stage after this

00:21:21.220 is there are going to be

00:21:22.460 pipelines blown up.

00:21:24.120 We were so grateful

00:21:25.020 to have you take a strong position

00:21:26.960 on this and speak to this.

00:21:28.120 Our pipelines,

00:21:28.900 Mr. Speaker,

00:21:29.440 are the safest

00:21:30.220 and most efficient way

00:21:31.840 to export ethical Alberta oil

00:21:33.820 all across the continent.

00:21:36.320 David Suzuki

00:21:37.140 is so out of touch

00:21:38.800 with the real world

00:21:39.600 that he advocates,

00:21:41.100 Mr. Speaker,

00:21:41.660 for eco-terrorism

00:21:42.700 towards Canadian people 0.82

00:21:43.900 and industries.

00:21:45.360 This is completely

00:21:46.460 unacceptable

00:21:46.540 and extremely reckless.

00:21:48.860 The NDP, Mr. Speaker,

00:21:51.220 sadly have a long history

00:21:52.420 of collaborating

00:21:53.300 with David Suzuki

00:21:54.220 and their silence

00:21:55.640 on his outrageous comments

00:21:57.640 made them complicit

00:21:59.220 with calls for eco-terrorism

00:22:01.280 towards Albertans

00:22:02.480 and Canadians.

00:22:04.560 Alberta's oil and gas industry

00:22:06.080 along with Alberta's government

00:22:07.260 have developed

00:22:08.300 innovative technologies

00:22:09.360 that actually impact

00:22:11.280 the environment.

00:22:12.540 The destruction

00:22:13.260 of our pipelines

00:22:14.320 is eco-terrorism

00:22:15.260 and must be rebuked

00:22:16.460 by everyone in this country.

00:22:17.860 Can you maybe go through

00:22:19.320 some of your comments

00:22:20.700 today in legislature

00:22:21.540 here in Alberta?

00:22:23.140 Yeah, well,

00:22:23.660 I think all Canadians

00:22:25.400 and all Albertans

00:22:26.100 should be appalled

00:22:26.720 by any comments

00:22:27.920 that could be used

00:22:29.140 to incite violence

00:22:30.040 in any way

00:22:31.260 referring to the blowing up

00:22:32.680 of a pipeline

00:22:33.380 or any type of infrastructure

00:22:34.880 is absolutely appalling.

00:22:37.860 And so I wanted

00:22:38.420 to make a clear statement

00:22:39.260 as the Minister of Environment,

00:22:40.800 one, to stand up

00:22:42.180 for our incredible

00:22:42.980 environmental record

00:22:43.880 inside our province

00:22:44.680 and the incredible hard work

00:22:46.200 of the men and women

00:22:46.880 who work in our energy

00:22:47.820 industry.

00:22:48.160 And we did that today.

00:22:49.780 But on top of that,

00:22:50.700 we called on immediately

00:22:51.860 for David Suzuki

00:22:52.660 to apologize

00:22:53.320 for what he said

00:22:54.720 and to stop any comments

00:22:57.040 that in any way

00:22:57.880 could be used

00:22:58.840 to support eco-terrorism.

00:23:01.160 It's just completely

00:23:02.420 unacceptable.

00:23:03.600 I also had some concerns

00:23:04.920 with the fact

00:23:05.420 that we saw

00:23:05.980 the official opposition

00:23:06.780 in Alberta,

00:23:07.340 the NDP opposition

00:23:08.720 in Alberta,

00:23:09.640 this weekend

00:23:10.140 passed motions

00:23:11.000 supporting the illegal

00:23:12.340 blockades

00:23:13.100 of important pipeline

00:23:14.340 projects in B.C.

00:23:17.140 This day and age,

00:23:18.260 it is completely

00:23:19.040 and utterly unacceptable

00:23:20.280 for anybody

00:23:21.160 in public life

00:23:22.000 to call for people

00:23:23.220 to be illegally

00:23:23.780 blocking projects

00:23:24.860 or to in any way

00:23:26.660 be condoning

00:23:27.980 acts of violence

00:23:29.180 or saying that acts

00:23:29.820 of violence

00:23:30.180 would take place

00:23:30.780 when it comes

00:23:31.180 to this infrastructure.

00:23:31.980 So we made that clear

00:23:33.060 in the legislature

00:23:33.600 today in my statement.

00:23:34.720 However, Mr. Speaker,

00:23:35.640 my view is that

00:23:36.320 every member of this House

00:23:37.420 should have that opportunity

00:23:38.400 to speak to this

00:23:39.380 and to consider a motion

00:23:40.820 to condemn

00:23:41.480 David Suzuki's

00:23:42.360 disgusting remarks.

00:23:43.860 And I will, 0.89

00:23:44.760 as government house leader

00:23:45.600 later today,

00:23:46.420 move such a motion

00:23:47.160 in this chamber.

00:23:48.640 It's important to note

00:23:49.780 that David Suzuki

00:23:50.840 doesn't just hate pipelines

00:23:52.180 that want to carry

00:23:53.360 the most ethically

00:23:54.140 produced oil

00:23:54.820 for export

00:23:55.920 around the world.

00:23:56.760 The truth is,

00:23:57.860 David Suzuki

00:23:58.420 hates Alberta.

00:24:00.020 David Suzuki

00:24:00.760 has compared Alberta's

00:24:01.860 oil and gas industry

00:24:02.840 to slavery in the past,

00:24:04.820 which is thickable

00:24:05.400 on its own.

00:24:07.060 But now he has said

00:24:08.340 the following

00:24:08.920 to check news

00:24:09.780 in Vancouver

00:24:10.400 this past Saturday.

00:24:12.240 Suzuki says,

00:24:13.020 and I quote Mr. Speaker,

00:24:14.440 there are going

00:24:14.940 to be pipelines

00:24:15.900 blowing up.

00:24:17.720 And goes on to say,

00:24:18.940 I saw the power

00:24:20.080 of civil disobedience.

00:24:22.040 And then he says,

00:24:22.980 people in Extinction Rebellion

00:24:24.500 are saying,

00:24:25.280 we're headed

00:24:25.560 in the direction

00:24:26.040 of extinction

00:24:26.560 and we're rebelling

00:24:27.800 against it.

00:24:28.920 That's why I'm here.

00:24:30.740 Hey folks,

00:24:31.400 who knew that

00:24:32.240 so-called

00:24:32.940 civil disobedience

00:24:34.540 included acts of,

00:24:35.960 you know,

00:24:36.780 eco-terrorism?

00:24:38.100 But hey,

00:24:38.720 that's what

00:24:39.580 Despicable Dave

00:24:40.620 is advocating,

00:24:41.860 much like that

00:24:42.600 SCTV character,

00:24:44.440 Big Jim McBob.

00:24:45.540 He wants to see

00:24:46.500 pipelines

00:24:47.360 blowed up

00:24:48.340 real good.

00:24:49.820 The only thing is,

00:24:50.880 what David Suzuki

00:24:51.960 said

00:24:52.420 is not funny

00:24:53.760 at all.

00:24:54.580 In fact,

00:24:55.100 I wonder

00:24:55.540 what Mr. Suzuki

00:24:56.940 calls the

00:24:58.320 attacks

00:24:58.920 20 years ago

00:24:59.860 at the

00:25:00.680 World Trade Center

00:25:01.800 a mostly

00:25:03.220 peaceful

00:25:04.060 protest,

00:25:04.900 perhaps?

00:25:05.580 What a disgrace.

00:25:06.580 In any event,

00:25:08.540 my colleague

00:25:09.220 Adam Seuss

00:25:10.060 in Calgary

00:25:10.800 is here

00:25:11.640 to discuss

00:25:12.420 exactly

00:25:13.520 what David

00:25:14.940 Suzuki

00:25:15.600 was thinking

00:25:16.280 in terms

00:25:17.400 of advocating

00:25:18.320 terrorism

00:25:19.740 in the first place.

00:25:21.540 Adam,

00:25:21.720 how you doing,

00:25:22.200 my friend?

00:25:23.220 Good.

00:25:23.460 How are you doing?

00:25:24.260 I'm doing great.

00:25:25.320 You know,

00:25:25.680 Adam,

00:25:25.900 before we get

00:25:26.680 into

00:25:27.180 what David

00:25:29.060 Suzuki

00:25:29.480 was saying

00:25:30.160 and the

00:25:31.380 D word

00:25:31.960 despicable,

00:25:32.960 that pretty much

00:25:34.060 covers it off

00:25:35.260 nicely,

00:25:35.800 I think.

00:25:36.640 I just want

00:25:37.420 to touch upon

00:25:38.180 the absolute

00:25:39.580 hypocrisy 1.00

00:25:40.640 of this man. 0.99

00:25:41.960 In other words,

00:25:43.120 here's someone

00:25:43.840 that became

00:25:44.800 very rich

00:25:45.600 via taxpayer

00:25:46.940 dollars,

00:25:47.500 thanks to

00:25:48.120 all his

00:25:48.540 CBC shows.

00:25:50.100 He has

00:25:50.400 multiple

00:25:51.040 high-end

00:25:51.880 homes.

00:25:53.640 How does

00:25:54.080 David Suzuki

00:25:54.980 think he's

00:25:55.880 going to

00:25:56.320 heat those

00:25:57.420 high-end

00:25:58.080 homes

00:25:58.520 if all

00:25:59.360 those pipelines

00:26:00.240 get blown

00:26:01.460 to pieces?

00:26:02.060 Does he

00:26:03.220 have a

00:26:03.600 special

00:26:04.200 stash

00:26:04.740 of,

00:26:05.140 I don't

00:26:05.460 know,

00:26:05.720 dilithium

00:26:06.180 crystals

00:26:06.640 somewhere?

00:26:08.060 Yeah,

00:26:08.560 it's absolutely

00:26:09.360 staggering.

00:26:10.020 It isn't just

00:26:10.440 David Suzuki,

00:26:11.360 it's virtually

00:26:11.900 everyone.

00:26:12.900 They'll take

00:26:13.360 helicopter tours

00:26:14.400 over the oil

00:26:15.120 sands while

00:26:15.740 criticizing them,

00:26:16.980 be on mega

00:26:17.840 yachts that

00:26:18.460 consume more

00:26:19.200 energy in

00:26:20.140 one boat

00:26:20.960 trip than

00:26:21.400 my house

00:26:21.920 consumes in

00:26:23.000 a year.

00:26:24.060 The categorical 0.74

00:26:25.400 hypocrisy,

00:26:26.200 listen, 0.94

00:26:26.640 anyone who's

00:26:27.300 espousing any

00:26:28.200 values,

00:26:29.300 to expect

00:26:30.060 them to

00:26:30.420 adhere to

00:26:30.920 them perfectly

00:26:31.680 I think

00:26:32.460 is unfair.

00:26:33.640 But the

00:26:34.000 extent to

00:26:34.780 which they

00:26:35.180 have such 0.95

00:26:35.640 glaring hypocrisy 0.96

00:26:37.660 is unbelievable. 0.82

00:26:38.640 And it

00:26:38.900 permeates even

00:26:39.800 on the local

00:26:40.640 level.

00:26:41.280 We were

00:26:41.620 covering a

00:26:42.120 protest here

00:26:42.680 in Calgary

00:26:43.140 just the

00:26:43.640 other night.

00:26:44.420 The video

00:26:44.860 should be up

00:26:45.480 at any

00:26:45.800 moment.

00:26:47.080 But they

00:26:47.780 all drive

00:26:48.740 up in

00:26:49.180 relatively

00:26:49.720 large vehicles,

00:26:50.800 park right

00:26:51.300 next to me

00:26:51.820 in their

00:26:52.060 gas-powered

00:26:52.720 vehicles,

00:26:53.480 and then they

00:26:54.040 get out and

00:26:54.620 they attend

00:26:55.060 a protest

00:26:55.500 against

00:26:56.000 pipelines.

00:26:57.060 What do

00:26:57.380 they think

00:26:57.660 those vehicles

00:26:58.220 run on,

00:26:58.780 hopes and

00:26:59.200 dreams?

00:27:00.020 You know,

00:27:00.660 Adam,

00:27:00.860 it's so

00:27:01.840 true.

00:27:02.180 As the

00:27:02.500 saying goes,

00:27:03.580 socialism isn't

00:27:04.920 for the

00:27:05.440 socialists.

00:27:06.600 And speaking

00:27:07.180 of which,

00:27:08.400 certainly the

00:27:09.080 UCP were

00:27:10.560 outraged and

00:27:11.480 members made

00:27:12.740 comments to that

00:27:13.560 effect in the

00:27:14.320 legislature.

00:27:15.640 Where is the

00:27:16.760 NDP in this

00:27:18.740 hubbubaloo?

00:27:19.640 And part of

00:27:21.220 the motion,

00:27:21.780 it was a

00:27:22.180 minister of

00:27:23.560 environment and

00:27:24.120 parks,

00:27:24.540 Jason Nixon,

00:27:25.420 who brought

00:27:26.300 forward actually

00:27:26.920 a motion

00:27:27.520 calling for

00:27:28.360 those comments

00:27:29.080 to be condemned

00:27:30.460 for David

00:27:30.960 Suzuki to

00:27:31.680 apologize.

00:27:33.020 But furthermore,

00:27:34.120 he actually

00:27:34.560 called on any

00:27:35.840 sort of

00:27:36.260 eco-terrorism to

00:27:37.720 be condemned

00:27:38.480 rather than

00:27:39.140 applauded.

00:27:39.660 Because in

00:27:40.060 fact,

00:27:40.360 over the

00:27:40.700 weekend,

00:27:41.600 the NDP,

00:27:42.220 at least a

00:27:42.580 number of

00:27:42.940 MLAs,

00:27:43.960 endorsed the

00:27:44.720 Wet'suwet'en 1.00

00:27:45.360 protests,

00:27:46.360 which have

00:27:46.960 now been

00:27:47.420 deemed illegal.

00:27:48.300 For those

00:27:49.240 who don't

00:27:49.720 know,

00:27:50.040 on some

00:27:50.460 of these

00:27:50.700 protests that

00:27:51.440 have been

00:27:51.680 extremely

00:27:52.140 contentious,

00:27:53.360 of the

00:27:54.460 six elected

00:27:56.600 councils in

00:27:58.060 that area,

00:27:58.780 First Nations

00:27:59.300 or Indigenous

00:27:59.820 councils,

00:28:00.780 five of six

00:28:01.740 voted in

00:28:02.540 favor of

00:28:03.660 this pipeline

00:28:04.340 going forward.

00:28:05.540 The six that

00:28:06.580 didn't is not

00:28:07.580 the group that's

00:28:08.400 protesting these

00:28:09.180 pipelines.

00:28:10.100 Furthermore,

00:28:11.000 20 individual

00:28:12.260 and independent

00:28:12.940 Indigenous

00:28:13.420 councils along

00:28:14.400 the route of

00:28:15.320 the coastal

00:28:16.220 gas link

00:28:16.840 pipeline,

00:28:17.400 they also

00:28:18.660 voted in

00:28:19.500 favor of

00:28:20.080 this.

00:28:20.580 So this is

00:28:21.000 not as

00:28:21.360 though this

00:28:21.700 is being

00:28:22.080 done to

00:28:22.860 the Indigenous

00:28:23.320 community.

00:28:24.040 In fact,

00:28:24.460 the $6.6

00:28:25.380 billion pipeline

00:28:26.300 is being

00:28:27.660 done very

00:28:28.380 much in

00:28:28.740 cooperation with

00:28:29.560 and serves

00:28:30.020 as an

00:28:30.300 economic

00:28:30.720 boon for

00:28:31.660 these

00:28:32.180 communities.

00:28:33.220 So the

00:28:33.460 suggestion that

00:28:34.020 these are

00:28:34.340 being forced

00:28:34.900 or thrust 0.95

00:28:35.680 upon people

00:28:36.400 is certainly

00:28:37.420 not an

00:28:37.960 accurate

00:28:38.260 depiction.

00:28:38.960 That being

00:28:39.360 said,

00:28:39.660 the NDP

00:28:40.260 has endorsed

00:28:41.420 and supports

00:28:42.680 not all of

00:28:43.340 them perhaps,

00:28:43.860 but at least

00:28:44.280 some,

00:28:44.980 the folks who

00:28:45.640 are illegally

00:28:46.340 protesting and

00:28:47.840 blockading this

00:28:49.180 project moving

00:28:49.960 forward.

00:28:50.460 So the NDP,

00:28:51.060 not only are they

00:28:51.620 not condemning

00:28:52.320 it,

00:28:52.740 they're endorsing

00:28:53.460 it.

00:28:53.680 And the

00:28:53.980 troubling thing

00:28:54.520 is as an

00:28:55.080 environmentalist,

00:28:56.400 even if you

00:28:57.040 are a militant

00:28:57.800 environmentalist

00:28:58.560 who is anti-pipeline,

00:29:00.180 this makes your

00:29:01.040 movement look bad.

00:29:02.240 You shouldn't be

00:29:02.860 advocating for

00:29:03.620 this.

00:29:04.320 Everyone across

00:29:05.140 the board,

00:29:05.600 from David Suzuki

00:29:06.400 to the NDP,

00:29:07.780 should be saying

00:29:08.280 this isn't the

00:29:08.960 way we'll fight

00:29:09.580 this in court or

00:29:10.420 we'll have

00:29:10.760 peaceful protests.

00:29:11.680 You know,

00:29:12.900 it's amazing

00:29:13.800 but not surprising.

00:29:15.300 But then again,

00:29:16.400 Adam,

00:29:16.720 our beloved

00:29:17.200 colleague,

00:29:18.000 Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:29:19.180 she wrote that

00:29:19.860 book a few

00:29:20.320 years ago,

00:29:20.880 The Destroyers,

00:29:21.760 about the NDP's

00:29:22.980 rule in Alberta.

00:29:24.560 And certainly

00:29:25.080 Rachel Notley

00:29:25.860 wasn't going

00:29:26.520 about with a

00:29:28.400 band of

00:29:28.800 guerrillas blowing

00:29:30.100 up pipelines,

00:29:30.920 but she was 0.91

00:29:31.620 introducing legislation

00:29:33.040 that basically

00:29:34.580 carried out the

00:29:36.360 same effect.

00:29:37.080 So I can see

00:29:37.880 them being on

00:29:38.600 side.

00:29:38.980 But interestingly

00:29:39.960 enough, I

00:29:40.720 believe there

00:29:41.120 was an

00:29:41.400 announcement

00:29:41.820 from the

00:29:43.300 David Suzuki

00:29:44.160 Foundation that

00:29:45.340 were saying,

00:29:46.000 hey, wait a

00:29:46.560 minute, this

00:29:48.580 doesn't represent

00:29:49.380 what we stand

00:29:50.320 for.

00:29:50.800 What's the deal

00:29:51.460 there, Adam?

00:29:52.880 Yeah, well, I

00:29:53.480 know, I think

00:29:54.160 that there is

00:29:54.860 going to be

00:29:55.380 this apologist

00:29:56.260 response, perhaps

00:29:58.940 saying that,

00:30:00.020 well, he was

00:30:00.680 just saying that

00:30:01.480 seems to be the

00:30:02.520 direction it's

00:30:03.320 heading.

00:30:04.100 I would hope

00:30:04.940 to God every

00:30:05.500 organization or

00:30:06.500 anyone with a

00:30:07.100 sober second

00:30:07.720 thought would

00:30:08.740 be trying to

00:30:09.940 retract that

00:30:10.840 statement and

00:30:11.440 issuing a

00:30:13.080 correction or

00:30:13.920 at least an

00:30:14.420 apology to some

00:30:15.440 extent.

00:30:16.060 But I'm certain

00:30:17.960 that the powers

00:30:19.140 that be who

00:30:19.800 fund this stuff

00:30:20.480 globally don't

00:30:22.260 want this sort

00:30:23.100 of militarized

00:30:23.960 action associated

00:30:24.900 with them.

00:30:25.640 Ultimately, when

00:30:26.340 push comes to

00:30:27.040 shove on these

00:30:27.620 issues, when

00:30:28.160 these pipelines

00:30:28.920 get shut down, 0.76

00:30:30.500 all that it

00:30:31.080 means is we're

00:30:31.580 bringing in more

00:30:32.380 OPEC oil and

00:30:33.800 we're bringing

00:30:34.180 more international

00:30:35.160 oil in.

00:30:35.740 So there's no

00:30:36.220 lack of funding

00:30:37.640 there or efforts

00:30:38.720 to ensure that

00:30:39.720 our oil does

00:30:40.400 not get around

00:30:41.040 and that it's

00:30:41.500 just international

00:30:42.840 oil coming in.

00:30:44.580 So the people

00:30:45.320 who maybe are

00:30:45.840 making these

00:30:46.340 major donations

00:30:47.220 to the Suzuki

00:30:48.320 Foundation and

00:30:49.120 some of these

00:30:49.500 other organizations,

00:30:51.040 they certainly

00:30:51.700 don't want to be

00:30:52.320 associated with a

00:30:53.280 militarized approach

00:30:54.740 because they are

00:30:55.620 so effective at

00:30:56.460 working behind the

00:30:57.260 scenes, working

00:30:57.880 in the courts,

00:30:58.960 and radicalizing

00:31:00.000 folks, and in a

00:31:01.300 way manipulating

00:31:01.940 the media to

00:31:02.840 garner sympathy.

00:31:04.140 Ultimately, when

00:31:04.780 we're looking at

00:31:05.260 some of these

00:31:05.660 protests, the

00:31:06.420 majority of the

00:31:07.160 indigenous community

00:31:08.380 is in support

00:31:09.300 of this.

00:31:09.960 We have a

00:31:10.420 small sort of

00:31:11.180 subsection of

00:31:12.680 hereditary chiefs 0.90

00:31:14.180 who claim that

00:31:14.660 they are in fact

00:31:15.400 entitled to the

00:31:16.140 land, but they're

00:31:17.000 not elected, they

00:31:17.740 don't represent the

00:31:18.600 majority, and

00:31:19.840 these third-party

00:31:21.400 organizations who

00:31:22.360 are advocating

00:31:23.340 against Alberta

00:31:24.880 or Canadian

00:31:25.480 energy are pretty

00:31:27.440 quick to echo

00:31:29.580 or at least

00:31:30.320 magnify the

00:31:31.060 voices of that

00:31:31.660 very small

00:31:32.300 minority when it

00:31:33.040 benefits their

00:31:33.620 interests.

00:31:34.760 No, 100%.

00:31:35.520 Many native

00:31:36.540 leaders recognize

00:31:38.080 and appreciate

00:31:39.020 the great jobs

00:31:41.060 and the great

00:31:41.740 livelihood that

00:31:42.680 comes from

00:31:43.260 working in the

00:31:43.800 oil industry.

00:31:45.080 They're on

00:31:45.600 side.

00:31:46.640 You mentioned

00:31:47.020 hereditary chiefs,

00:31:48.280 and of course,

00:31:49.140 there are what I

00:31:49.740 call the fake 0.98

00:31:50.340 Indians, white 1.00

00:31:51.100 social justice

00:31:51.960 warriors, Adam,

00:31:53.600 that really don't

00:31:56.120 have the concerns

00:31:56.980 of native bands

00:31:58.220 in their hearts.

00:31:59.980 You mentioned the

00:32:00.800 term ethical

00:32:01.240 oil.

00:32:01.680 I should give a

00:32:02.320 plug to our

00:32:03.380 boss man, Ezra

00:32:04.460 Levent, about 10

00:32:05.400 years ago.

00:32:05.920 He wrote a

00:32:06.320 book by that

00:32:07.200 very title,

00:32:07.920 Ethical Oil.

00:32:08.600 And if anyone

00:32:09.340 wants to do a

00:32:10.500 deep dive about

00:32:11.560 how ethical the

00:32:12.680 oil industry is

00:32:14.120 in Canada,

00:32:15.140 please check out

00:32:16.520 that book.

00:32:17.720 But one other 0.88

00:32:18.540 piece of hypocrisy

00:32:19.920 I'd like to

00:32:20.340 address too,

00:32:21.140 Adam, the

00:32:22.220 reaction to

00:32:23.380 Suzuki's comments

00:32:24.540 in the media

00:32:25.580 party, it's been

00:32:27.160 fairly muted.

00:32:28.820 There is no

00:32:29.760 outrage.

00:32:30.460 And what I'm

00:32:30.820 saying is that if

00:32:32.200 there was a

00:32:32.640 public figure and

00:32:34.560 let's say this

00:32:35.340 was a white

00:32:36.480 guy wearing a

00:32:37.540 MAGA hat and

00:32:38.500 he says, I

00:32:39.640 hope, oh, I

00:32:40.620 don't know,

00:32:41.280 statues that

00:32:42.340 have been

00:32:42.580 erected recently

00:32:43.380 of social

00:32:43.960 justice warriors

00:32:44.840 get blown up. 0.55

00:32:46.520 Could you

00:32:47.260 imagine the

00:32:48.700 outrage, my

00:32:49.360 friend?

00:32:50.340 Yeah.

00:32:50.620 Even the other

00:32:51.380 night when we

00:32:51.900 were covering

00:32:52.500 this protest,

00:32:53.760 it was very

00:32:54.400 much impromptu,

00:32:55.520 unlike the

00:32:56.200 freedom marches

00:32:57.020 that the police

00:32:57.800 lay out a

00:32:58.360 route and it's

00:32:59.720 non-invasive and

00:33:00.760 it doesn't sort

00:33:01.300 of offset the

00:33:02.120 city too much,

00:33:03.520 it's all planned,

00:33:04.200 they follow the

00:33:04.740 police.

00:33:05.260 This protest last

00:33:06.360 night, with

00:33:06.880 police present,

00:33:07.780 shockingly, the

00:33:08.440 tactical units

00:33:09.240 weren't on hand,

00:33:10.240 they literally

00:33:10.760 blocked like the 0.99

00:33:11.580 C train or

00:33:12.260 Calgary transit

00:33:13.020 lines, they

00:33:13.780 blocked numerous

00:33:14.660 other roads off

00:33:15.580 and traffic was

00:33:16.220 at a standstill

00:33:17.020 and it wasn't a

00:33:18.280 coordinated path.

00:33:19.300 Police were

00:33:19.600 basically scrambling

00:33:20.380 to try and keep

00:33:21.120 people away as

00:33:22.120 this protest moved

00:33:22.980 through the city.

00:33:23.980 If there was any

00:33:24.780 sort of conservative

00:33:25.820 movement, let's

00:33:26.720 say it was an

00:33:27.280 anti-masker or an

00:33:28.620 anti-mask rally that

00:33:30.080 blocked the C train

00:33:31.180 lines, the

00:33:32.120 tactical team

00:33:32.880 would be on

00:33:33.340 hand, they would

00:33:33.900 be arrested and

00:33:34.760 charged within

00:33:35.840 minutes and there

00:33:36.680 would be news

00:33:37.420 coverage from

00:33:38.460 every mainstream

00:33:39.340 outlet about how

00:33:40.200 these radicals are

00:33:41.160 blocking hospitals,

00:33:42.580 blocking ambulances,

00:33:43.420 which an ambulance

00:33:44.160 was blocked last

00:33:45.140 night, non-stop,

00:33:47.780 it would just be a

00:33:48.980 constant barrage of

00:33:50.100 how evil these

00:33:50.900 people are and yet

00:33:51.780 that isn't the

00:33:52.940 mainstream narrative

00:33:53.680 when it comes to

00:33:54.780 other groups, it's

00:33:55.840 ideological.

00:33:56.400 Oh, Adam, we

00:33:57.720 don't have to

00:33:58.640 imagine, I can

00:33:59.680 tell you, in

00:34:00.160 Toronto, going back

00:34:00.900 to January, where

00:34:02.080 literally the public

00:34:02.980 square, young

00:34:03.960 Dundas Square, was

00:34:05.420 declared a no-man

00:34:06.420 zone by Mayor

00:34:07.420 Tory and you had

00:34:08.360 protesters standing

00:34:10.260 by themselves with a

00:34:11.380 Canadian flag getting

00:34:12.720 tackled by police

00:34:14.420 officers, cuffed,

00:34:15.920 thrown into police

00:34:17.820 SUVs and paddy

00:34:19.000 wagons.

00:34:19.680 They weren't

00:34:20.080 blocking traffic,

00:34:21.100 they weren't

00:34:21.380 blocking subway

00:34:22.400 trains, they were

00:34:23.660 allegedly using

00:34:25.140 their right to

00:34:26.100 freedom of

00:34:26.760 expression and

00:34:27.500 assembly, which

00:34:28.700 is not a right

00:34:30.560 that's recognized,

00:34:31.500 like I said, right

00:34:32.520 in the public

00:34:33.020 square.

00:34:33.420 The hypocrisy is 0.94

00:34:34.720 unbelievable.

00:34:35.520 One last question,

00:34:36.400 Adam.

00:34:36.740 I'm just wondering,

00:34:37.840 it's a hypothetical

00:34:38.540 one, in terms of

00:34:40.360 Suzuki's base, in

00:34:41.800 terms of his fans,

00:34:43.920 do you think the

00:34:44.640 majority are saying,

00:34:46.660 right on, man,

00:34:47.640 let's lock and

00:34:49.320 load, let's carry

00:34:50.220 out some major 0.82

00:34:51.460 destruction on those

00:34:52.720 pipelines?

00:34:53.160 Or do you think

00:34:54.140 the majority are

00:34:55.640 saying, you know,

00:34:57.580 this isn't what I

00:34:58.260 signed up for, I

00:34:59.220 don't like pipelines,

00:35:00.560 I want green

00:35:01.420 energy, but I

00:35:02.660 don't want acts

00:35:03.820 of eco-terrorism.

00:35:05.020 What do you think

00:35:05.540 it is, Adam?

00:35:06.920 You know, I think

00:35:07.840 that there is sort

00:35:08.720 of an underlying

00:35:09.540 extremism to

00:35:11.140 eco-hysteria.

00:35:13.480 Case in point, you

00:35:14.640 look at a city

00:35:15.380 council voting

00:35:16.220 virtually unanimously

00:35:17.400 to declare a state

00:35:19.260 of climate

00:35:19.940 emergency.

00:35:21.080 That word

00:35:21.460 emergency is not

00:35:23.140 a measured

00:35:23.640 response.

00:35:24.740 It's a response

00:35:26.160 on the extreme.

00:35:27.120 Often we teach

00:35:27.620 our children, well,

00:35:28.160 you don't say it's

00:35:28.780 an emergency unless

00:35:29.720 it's really an

00:35:30.360 emergency.

00:35:31.500 I think that that

00:35:33.240 mentality and the

00:35:34.560 fear and hysteria

00:35:35.760 that permeates

00:35:36.500 media has rendered

00:35:37.980 people who would

00:35:39.220 otherwise be

00:35:40.200 moderates into

00:35:41.620 extremists.

00:35:42.620 And while I do

00:35:43.220 think they are a

00:35:44.500 loud minority of

00:35:45.900 the broad

00:35:46.720 population, I would

00:35:48.260 not be shocked if

00:35:49.220 among Suzuki

00:35:50.200 supporters and

00:35:51.180 these Extinction

00:35:52.280 Rebellion types,

00:35:54.160 there was an

00:35:55.520 underlying sort

00:35:56.520 of nod of

00:35:57.360 this is the way

00:35:58.380 it's going to

00:35:59.200 be.

00:36:00.040 Sadly, I do

00:36:01.000 think that that

00:36:01.520 extends to an

00:36:02.400 extent within

00:36:03.300 mainstream media.

00:36:04.660 As you said, if

00:36:05.420 you were advocating

00:36:05.980 for any other

00:36:06.820 idea and suggested

00:36:08.200 that if politicians

00:36:09.500 don't step in line,

00:36:11.400 there's going to be

00:36:12.000 bombings, which is

00:36:12.860 terrorism by every

00:36:13.980 metric, any other

00:36:15.620 movement would have

00:36:17.000 massive backlash.

00:36:18.340 Here, you've not

00:36:19.180 seen the Suzuki

00:36:20.080 loyalists saying,

00:36:21.680 well, hold on a

00:36:22.260 second, you've gone

00:36:22.860 too far.

00:36:23.600 They've largely been

00:36:24.960 quiet and being

00:36:25.900 quiet involves a

00:36:27.160 degree of complicity,

00:36:28.120 in my opinion.

00:36:29.380 A hundred percent.

00:36:30.160 And as for Calgary

00:36:31.040 City Council showing

00:36:32.280 sympathy to the

00:36:33.260 anti-pipeline

00:36:34.340 movement, Adam, my

00:36:36.380 God, sometimes I

00:36:38.160 don't recognize the

00:36:39.020 world we're living

00:36:39.620 in.

00:36:39.960 It would be akin to

00:36:41.720 the council in

00:36:43.560 Newcastle being

00:36:44.540 anti-coal.

00:36:45.640 But welcome to

00:36:48.400 the post-COVID

00:36:49.900 world where up is

00:36:51.460 down, yes is no.

00:36:53.380 It's kind of like the

00:36:54.220 bizarro Superman

00:36:55.160 pilot, isn't it?

00:36:57.000 Very much so,

00:36:57.940 entirely.

00:36:58.900 In fact, we do have

00:37:00.040 a doppelganger of

00:37:01.140 our own Sheila

00:37:01.780 Gunn-Reed here, who

00:37:02.700 is like a bizarro.

00:37:03.860 She's always an 0.98

00:37:04.440 activist.

00:37:04.980 She's always at the

00:37:05.700 progressive events,

00:37:06.800 but she's a 0.99

00:37:07.260 doppelganger.

00:37:08.240 Speaking of Sheila

00:37:08.900 Gunn-Reed, for

00:37:09.560 those who aren't that

00:37:10.460 familiar with David

00:37:11.600 Suzuki, if you go to

00:37:13.100 suzukibook.com,

00:37:14.740 there is the

00:37:16.440 fantastic book,

00:37:17.460 The Case Against

00:37:18.080 David Suzuki, the

00:37:19.080 unauthorized biography

00:37:20.680 by our very own

00:37:21.760 Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:37:22.600 So that's a way to

00:37:23.700 get informed for

00:37:24.320 folks who haven't

00:37:24.960 read the book,

00:37:25.420 maybe.

00:37:26.420 Well, there you go,

00:37:27.040 folks.

00:37:27.300 Adam's provided you

00:37:28.300 the Christmas reading

00:37:29.440 list to while away

00:37:30.900 the days next month,

00:37:32.600 Ethical Oil, The

00:37:33.940 Destroyers, and David

00:37:35.280 Suzuki's unauthorized

00:37:36.480 biography.

00:37:37.500 They're all wonderful

00:37:38.580 page turners.

00:37:39.880 Adam, thank you so

00:37:40.620 much for that excellent

00:37:41.380 report, and thank you

00:37:42.600 for joining me on

00:37:43.320 Roundup.

00:37:44.300 Happy to be here.

00:37:44.980 Thanks, Dave.

00:37:45.520 You got it.

00:37:46.560 And that was Adam

00:37:47.800 Seuss in Calgary.

00:37:49.260 Keep it here, folks.

00:37:50.400 More of Rebel

00:37:50.920 Roundup to come right

00:37:52.060 after this.

00:37:52.600 Folks, I'm outside the

00:37:59.180 Toronto District School

00:38:00.540 Board headquarters.

00:38:02.540 There are dozens of

00:38:03.820 teachers here who are

00:38:05.740 not revealing their

00:38:07.440 medical status or they

00:38:09.040 are saying, no, we will

00:38:10.560 not get jabbed with the

00:38:12.520 COVID-19 vaccines.

00:38:14.540 And what can I tell you,

00:38:15.760 folks?

00:38:15.960 The clock is ticking this

00:38:17.920 Sunday, November 21st.

00:38:19.700 That's when they have to

00:38:22.200 make that decision.

00:38:23.300 If you don't reveal your

00:38:24.340 status or agree to get

00:38:25.460 vaccinated, you are 0.99

00:38:27.160 terminated as of Monday,

00:38:29.460 November 22nd.

00:38:32.060 Well, it's funny, isn't it,

00:38:34.240 folks?

00:38:34.840 The TDSB and so many

00:38:36.700 other school boards,

00:38:37.980 they've always been about

00:38:39.600 anti-bullying, right?

00:38:41.700 They've always been about

00:38:43.320 reasonable accommodation.

00:38:45.960 The question arises, why

00:38:48.600 won't they reasonably

00:38:49.700 accommodate these teachers?

00:38:52.000 Why are they using bully

00:38:53.720 boy tactics to get their

00:38:55.540 way?

00:38:56.240 We're going to ask some of

00:38:57.160 these teachers to come on

00:38:58.160 camera and hear what they

00:38:59.960 have to say about their

00:39:01.400 school board turning against

00:39:03.060 them and their unions

00:39:04.780 abandoning them.

00:39:06.620 Your sign says, stop the

00:39:08.920 experiment.

00:39:09.840 www.hadenoughyet.ca.

00:39:15.520 So what is it you're trying

00:39:16.920 to convey here today, Matt?

00:39:18.960 Well, exactly what it says

00:39:20.720 because the products that

00:39:22.460 they want to inject into

00:39:23.560 everybody haven't actually

00:39:25.380 finished the phase three

00:39:26.740 trials.

00:39:27.700 Right.

00:39:28.140 And I guess it's one thing,

00:39:30.700 even if this is an

00:39:31.880 experimental vaccine, it's

00:39:34.260 one thing for a citizen to

00:39:35.780 have choice in the matter.

00:39:37.180 But what we're seeing

00:39:38.620 increasingly is coercion by

00:39:41.280 employers, by the

00:39:42.340 government, by this very

00:39:44.200 school board.

00:39:44.920 You either get the jabs or

00:39:46.620 you lose your job.

00:39:47.600 So there would seem to be an

00:39:50.120 ethical or moral, you

00:39:52.520 know, problem with that, I

00:39:53.780 would think.

00:39:54.580 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:39:55.600 That's a huge one right now.

00:39:56.820 And a lot of people are

00:39:57.880 speaking out of out of it on

00:39:59.640 that side that don't even

00:40:00.800 like that aren't even, you

00:40:03.040 know, anti-vaxxers per se.

00:40:04.680 Some people have, you know,

00:40:06.080 always had vaccines, but

00:40:07.180 this one is different.

00:40:08.260 Do you feel that teachers

00:40:11.140 that are not divulging their

00:40:13.440 vaccine status, teachers that

00:40:15.160 are saying, I am not getting

00:40:16.340 the jab, do you think that's a

00:40:18.140 form of bullying by the board

00:40:20.040 to its employees?

00:40:22.040 Absolutely.

00:40:23.520 You know, we were expected to

00:40:25.740 watch an educational video

00:40:28.220 by the board to discuss and to

00:40:32.360 hear about the vaccine and the

00:40:34.240 safety, and there was a few

00:40:35.820 slides that had a huge kind of

00:40:39.680 anti-bullying, safe spaces, safe

00:40:43.220 environment, propaganda.

00:40:46.980 And as I was watching this, I

00:40:49.440 thought, well, isn't this a

00:40:50.520 little bit ironic and 0.80

00:40:51.880 hypocritical to preach us about 0.82

00:40:55.360 the importance of having a safe 0.98

00:40:57.220 environment to work in and no

00:40:59.640 toxicity, but at the same time

00:41:02.280 coercing us, forcing us, really

00:41:05.520 not giving us any choice to what

00:41:08.100 we want to do with our bodies and

00:41:09.660 taking our, you know, economic

00:41:11.760 freedom away and taking, taking

00:41:14.060 for a lot of us, you know, there

00:41:15.460 are a lot of people who are, who

00:41:16.560 don't have a spouse, a partner,

00:41:19.860 they're sole breadwinners.

00:41:21.280 Well, folks, that was the scene

00:41:22.820 last Friday in Toronto when

00:41:24.940 dozens of teachers who face an

00:41:27.520 economic death sentence protested

00:41:30.240 outside the headquarters of the

00:41:32.440 TDSB, a school board that now

00:41:35.360 subscribes to bullying and

00:41:38.000 non-accommodation, at least when

00:41:40.360 it comes to forcing its employees

00:41:43.100 ranging from teachers to

00:41:45.000 custodians to get the COVID-19

00:41:47.360 jab.

00:41:48.420 Yep, today's lesson, kids, C, as

00:41:51.160 in C for coercion.

00:41:53.640 And in the event, you had plenty to

00:41:55.540 say about the Toronto District

00:41:57.560 School Board's draconian demands

00:41:59.780 and the fact that the various

00:42:02.520 teachers unions have no problem

00:42:05.140 whatsoever with that particular

00:42:07.620 mandate baffling.

00:42:10.700 Baltazar Gapka writes, for the

00:42:12.800 first time in history, the

00:42:14.540 ineffectedness of a medicine is

00:42:17.380 being blamed on those who refuse

00:42:19.900 to take it.

00:42:21.580 Well, you are correct, sir.

00:42:23.120 And, you know, I think of the words

00:42:25.360 of Dr. Julie Panessi of the

00:42:27.720 Democracy Fund in that speech she 0.99

00:42:30.200 made at last Saturday's Freedom

00:42:31.940 Rally in London, Ontario.

00:42:34.180 Check it out.

00:42:35.280 Why, as a nurse recently asked,

00:42:38.880 do the protected need to be

00:42:41.100 protected from the unprotected by

00:42:44.100 forcing the unprotected to use the

00:42:46.340 protection that didn't protect them

00:42:48.000 in the first place?

00:42:49.000 Well said.

00:42:51.760 Sebastian Desley writes, time to

00:42:54.680 arrest these tyrants.

00:42:56.740 Well, Sebastian, there is plenty of

00:42:59.280 tyranny on display these days, that's

00:43:01.400 for sure.

00:43:02.080 But the tyrants aren't going to jail.

00:43:04.420 Rather, those who are ending up in

00:43:06.480 the slammer are the likes of

00:43:07.840 restaurateurs and pastors, you know,

00:43:10.760 law-abiding taxpayers who are merely

00:43:13.260 standing up for their rights.

00:43:14.900 The world is truly upside down these

00:43:18.280 days, and I think it's going to

00:43:20.200 remain in that position for years to

00:43:23.120 come.

00:43:24.860 Larkin Equity North Carolina writes,

00:43:27.980 if they fire those teachers, do they

00:43:30.000 lose their pensions?

00:43:31.620 Well, you know, great question, sir.

00:43:33.160 I'll look into this.

00:43:34.720 We know that these firings are being

00:43:36.600 deemed as termination with cause,

00:43:39.540 meaning no benefits, including

00:43:41.740 employment insurance.

00:43:43.100 You've got to believe the TDSB would

00:43:46.240 love to further punish the so-called 0.75

00:43:48.780 Covid-iots by taking away their 1.00

00:43:51.120 pensions, too.

00:43:52.280 The question arises, does the school

00:43:53.900 board have this power? 0.83

00:43:55.680 Stay tuned for that one.

00:43:57.780 Jason R. writes, quit your job.

00:44:00.380 They don't care about the unvaccinated.

00:44:03.020 Stop slaving for people that won't even 1.00

00:44:05.660 let you eat at a restaurant.

00:44:08.080 Well, Jason, I'm sorry, but easier said

00:44:10.660 than done.

00:44:11.880 Everyone has to pay the rent or the

00:44:14.000 mortgage.

00:44:14.640 Everyone has to put bread on the table.

00:44:17.360 This is what is so insidious about

00:44:20.060 mandatory vax policies.

00:44:22.600 It is indeed an economic death sentence.

00:44:25.420 I spoke to some teachers that day that

00:44:27.800 told me they're going to have to sell

00:44:29.800 their houses to stay afloat.

00:44:32.100 Luckily, the real estate market in Toronto

00:44:34.160 remains red hot.

00:44:35.640 But this is a shame, nevertheless.

00:44:40.180 And aka Thardos writes, so the school

00:44:43.800 board takes full responsibility for any

00:44:46.680 adverse reaction to the jab and they will

00:44:49.580 look after your family for life?

00:44:52.740 Oh, absolutely not, aka Thardos.

00:44:56.500 The position of the school board boils down

00:44:58.640 to this.

00:44:59.620 Trust us.

00:45:00.260 No employer on the planet is going to put

00:45:04.040 their money where their mouth is when it

00:45:06.140 comes to signing a document that states they

00:45:09.120 will be responsible for any adverse health

00:45:12.100 effects.

00:45:13.260 But why?

00:45:14.600 Aren't we told repeatedly by the doctors that

00:45:18.240 this vaccine is perfectly safe?

00:45:21.700 Or is it?

00:45:23.500 Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel

00:45:25.960 Roundup.

00:45:26.480 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:45:27.720 See you next week and hey folks, never forget

00:45:30.980 without risk, there can be no glory.

00:45:33.420 Good night.

Rebel News Podcast - November 27, 2021

DAVID MENZIES ｜ Rebel vs. Elections Commissioner, David Suzuki's threats and teachers bullied into vaccines

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