Rebel News Podcast - DAVID MENZIES ｜ Vaccine Passport Tyranny, Future of the PPC

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back

00:00:19.600 at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels.

00:00:23.460 I'm your host, David Menzies.

00:00:25.000 Well, one of the most compelling sidebar stories of the 2021 federal election campaign was the

00:00:31.140 rise in popularity of the People's Party of Canada, much to the chagrin, no doubt, of

00:00:36.840 the Conservative Party.

00:00:38.160 Alas, the PPC failed to capture any seats.

00:00:41.500 But it is certainly a force to contend with moving forward.

00:00:45.260 Alexa Lavoie was in Beaux-Quebec on Monday night to interview PPC leader Maxime Bernier,

00:00:51.300 who maintains that the PPC is the true Conservative Party.

00:00:56.740 And really, folks, you won't get any argument from me on that one.

00:01:00.960 In any event, Alexa joins me to weigh in on the future of the PPC. 0.96

00:01:06.940 And no jabs, no jobs.

00:01:09.600 Well, many Edmontonians had plenty to say about the tyranny of vaccine passports at a large 0.99

00:01:16.600 demonstration, and Sheila Gunn-Reed was there to cover it. 0.98

00:01:20.820 Sheila joins me to try and make sense of it all.

00:01:24.200 And letters, we get your letters.

00:01:25.740 We get them every minute of every day.

00:01:27.880 And wow, you had plenty to say about Aaron O'Toole's last campaign stop in Markham, Ontario,

00:01:35.220 last Sunday.

00:01:36.740 Spoiler alert, O'Toole hid in his bus when he saw me, making him half an hour late for his

00:01:43.860 own event, and then his lackeys forced me to cover the event from a live lane of traffic.

00:01:52.520 What a loser.

00:01:55.880 Those are your Rebels.

00:01:57.060 Now let's round them up.

00:01:58.420 I'm just wondering if you are satisfied of your campaign, same if the mainstream media

00:02:08.240 didn't give you so much visibility.

00:02:11.080 You know, I'm very happy with the campaign.

00:02:13.660 And, you know, my message was very strong for more freedom and less government.

00:02:17.980 I'm disappointed with the mainstream media.

00:02:20.460 Didn't cover us.

00:02:21.580 But I'm very happy that in Canada we have independent media.

00:02:25.000 And all the media must be independent and not dependent on the government.

00:02:29.900 So that's part of our platform.

00:02:31.500 As you know, we will cut the CBC and all the funding going to media.

00:02:35.740 We want them to be able to compete fairly against the traditional and independent media.

00:02:42.300 So that's part of our position.

00:02:43.560 But that being said, we use social media a lot and we're able to have huge rallies here

00:02:49.980 and across the country, in the east, in New Brunswick, in Vancouver, all across the

00:02:55.820 country.

00:02:56.280 So I'm very pleased and people are ready.

00:02:58.600 I think we'll be able to celebrate today.

00:03:01.140 That will be another step.

00:03:03.660 And this party is growing.

00:03:05.400 This movement is growing.

00:03:07.440 So I believe it will be a nice night.

00:03:10.100 And why did you choose Saskatoon for your main light conference, please?

00:03:15.100 Yeah, because, you know, we wanted to do something inside without masks.

00:03:19.800 And when we choose Saskatoon here in Saskatchewan, that was the only province that didn't have

00:03:24.720 any ridiculous rules.

00:03:27.680 And they changed that three days ago.

00:03:30.380 So we had two plans, one outside, one inside.

00:03:33.540 And our people wanted to be inside.

00:03:35.740 And, you know, they don't respect the regulations here.

00:03:39.120 But they are free and responsible people.

00:03:42.680 And I understand that.

00:03:44.200 It's ridiculous to have masks inside.

00:03:47.820 But some of them, and we are expecting people that are wearing a mask.

00:03:52.100 But we decided that here, we wanted to be in Western Canada because we have a lot of support

00:03:57.640 here.

00:03:57.940 And especially because you are the only party right now, I think, who conserved their event

00:04:05.460 tonight because the other one didn't do their event because they wanted to follow the health

00:04:12.140 measure.

00:04:12.700 What do you think about that?

00:04:13.580 Yeah, you know, I think it's important for me.

00:04:16.020 We are the people's party.

00:04:17.420 So I wanted to be here.

00:04:18.620 I wanted to be with our people, to watch the result.

00:04:22.440 And that's the most important for me.

00:04:25.380 How many seats do you think you will win tonight?

00:04:27.420 I don't know.

00:04:28.100 The most important is the percentage of our vote.

00:04:30.820 For 1.6%, if we go to 4%, 5%, 6%, that's a huge victory. 1.00

00:04:36.640 You know, the Green Party, after 38 years, they are around 4%.

00:04:41.320 If we can do better than that, after only two elections and two years, it would be very

00:04:48.020 good and we'll build from there for the next election.

00:04:51.800 And how do you feel about Erin O'Toole's say that voting for PPC is splitting the vote?

00:04:58.800 He's very desperate.

00:05:00.540 You know, that's funny because the only argument is that you don't vote for a party that is

00:05:06.980 a real conservative party.

00:05:08.320 And I believe that Canadians are intelligent and they know that the People's Party is

00:05:14.300 the only real conservative party in this country.

00:05:17.060 Well, folks, I can't say I disagree with Max, thanks to Erin O'Toole endlessly flip-flopping

00:05:23.540 on everything from the carbon tax to the gun ban.

00:05:27.180 Is the Conservative Party truly conservative or is it sort of liberal-lite?

00:05:33.480 Meanwhile, Mr. Bernier believes what he says and says what he believes.

00:05:38.960 I know, what a concept.

00:05:41.460 And joining me now is La Belle Provence's she-devil with a sword, the one and only Khaleesi of Quebec. 0.99

00:05:48.640 And that would be Alexa Lavoie, live and in person.

00:05:52.820 So, Alexa, welcome to Rebel Roundup.

00:05:55.160 So good to have you here in the studio.

00:05:57.460 First and foremost, give me your thoughts about what went wrong on Monday night.

00:06:04.500 And I say that in terms of really the Conservative Party.

00:06:07.820 I know Erin O'Toole sent out a release before the polls closed saying,

00:06:12.920 oh, P.S., by the way, if the Liberals are held to a minority, we're declaring victory.

00:06:19.060 I don't think that's victory.

00:06:20.260 I think it was a loss.

00:06:23.500 Oh, yeah.

00:06:24.740 And I think the fact is Erin O'Toole was probably sure he was going to win.

00:06:31.980 And that was not the case.

00:06:34.160 And it's why if you look at all the social media,

00:06:40.020 Erin O'Toole was like, I'm the only one who can take the place of Mr. Trudeau.

00:06:44.740 And it was sure that he was going to win, but he lost.

00:06:51.940 You know what?

00:06:52.700 It's very interesting.

00:06:54.780 I thought, and even if you ask Liberals, Alexa,

00:06:58.480 I thought Justin Trudeau ran a disastrous campaign.

00:07:01.580 The first week was a nightmare.

00:07:03.560 And people were saying, well, the first week doesn't define a campaign.

00:07:06.720 Then he had a second bad week.

00:07:08.180 And then a third bad week.

00:07:09.820 Erin O'Toole, I've got to be honest,

00:07:11.280 in the early going, he looked very prime ministerial, right?

00:07:17.400 He looked very dignified.

00:07:19.240 He wasn't making mistakes.

00:07:21.000 And then in the homestretch, something seemed to spook him.

00:07:25.240 And he started doing flip-flops.

00:07:27.440 I would say unnecessary flip-flops on the carbon tax, on the gun ban.

00:07:32.400 And I don't know what it was to bring it back to the PPC.

00:07:36.220 Could it have been he saw the PPC gaining in polls?

00:07:41.740 At one point, Maxime Bernier, his People's Party of Canada, 11%,

00:07:47.540 which is a staggering figure for a start-up political party.

00:07:51.560 But nevertheless, what do you think spooked Erin O'Toole,

00:07:56.180 who was running a good campaign, to suddenly go even more to the left?

00:07:59.700 I think with Mr. Trudeau, I think his campaign was just wrong.

00:08:08.720 So many protesters, so many hates.

00:08:11.860 He keep focusing on vaccination, on demonizing the unvaccinated people.

00:08:19.480 And I don't understand why he wins,

00:08:21.600 but we know that we'll be in an election in two years from now

00:08:25.100 because he don't want a minority government.

00:08:29.800 And he said it loud.

00:08:31.580 But for Mr. Erin O'Toole, I think he saw on the polls

00:08:36.260 that he was kind of ex-eco with the Liberals,

00:08:41.520 but he saw like NPD and the PPC going in the statistics.

00:08:48.040 Yes.

00:08:48.340 And I don't know if he gets afraid of that,

00:08:52.360 but I think when you're afraid, you made a lot of mistakes.

00:08:58.620 And that began to be uncertainly on his campaign.

00:09:05.460 So he was telling something,

00:09:07.340 and the day after he was telling something else.

00:09:09.760 And so I think it's just the fear of losing

00:09:14.440 or maybe the fear to see like other parties going up.

00:09:17.940 Yeah.

00:09:18.420 And he knew, and it's why he say voting for PPC is splitting vote.

00:09:23.720 Right.

00:09:24.580 It was, he wanted to make sure that people would not vote for the PPC

00:09:28.340 for not making Trudeau win.

00:09:32.920 Yes.

00:09:33.140 So it was like, don't vote for the PPC,

00:09:35.340 vote for the conservative because we will be sure that Trudeau would not win.

00:09:40.020 And on that matter, there were writing certainly

00:09:43.880 that if you took the PPC vote and you assumed all of those were disgruntled conservatives

00:09:50.060 and you put the conservative candidate in that writing,

00:09:53.100 the conservative would have won.

00:09:54.980 Still, it would still result in Erno Toole coming in second.

00:10:00.000 Right.

00:10:00.360 So it's a non-factor.

00:10:01.900 But, you know, let's talk about the People's Party of Canada, Alexa.

00:10:04.940 As I said, at one point, one poll showed them at 11%.

00:10:09.020 When the ballots were counted, it was about half that amount.

00:10:12.920 That's still a very impressive number for a very young political startup party.

00:10:18.840 I mean, winning a seat for a startup political party,

00:10:21.420 it is a Herculean task to say the least.

00:10:24.040 What do you attribute to the support, coast to coast,

00:10:29.120 even though it didn't result in any seats for Maxime Bernier,

00:10:32.940 what do you attribute to the popularity of the PPC this time around?

00:10:37.540 I will say something.

00:10:39.360 I was really shocked to see any seats going up that night.

00:10:46.700 I was impressed.

00:10:48.380 I was expecting at least one seat, minimum.

00:10:51.860 But no seat, I just don't understand.

00:10:56.780 But his popularity is because it's the only political party, like he say,

00:11:01.540 that is against the mandatory vaccine, against the vaccine passport.

00:11:07.160 It's for freedom of choice, pro-choice, do whatever you want.

00:11:12.800 Like what we saw during his event, it was actually what he prone, like his value.

00:11:19.200 If you want to wear the mask, wear it.

00:11:21.220 If you don't want to wear the mask, it's your choice.

00:11:24.180 What a concept, eh?

00:11:25.360 Yeah, but it's life.

00:11:27.260 It's a democratic party.

00:11:30.420 You choose whatever you want to do with your body.

00:11:34.160 And isn't that what you would expect a conservative leader and party to say,

00:11:38.960 that, you know, we're not going to be big government.

00:11:42.140 We're not going to tell you how to live your lives.

00:11:44.280 But for some reason, Aaron O'Toole, like I said, kept drifting the party further and further left.

00:11:50.440 And I think he forced people to vote for the PPC.

00:11:53.520 Yeah, because at the beginning, it was not really for the mandatory vaccine.

00:12:01.220 And it was more like for the vaccine passport, we are not really for it.

00:12:07.200 And we are more like PCR tests, daily PCR tests.

00:12:13.780 And after that, it changed a little bit, like yes for the vaccine passport and yes for other things.

00:12:19.840 And we were like, this guy will probably, if he gets elected, will be as Trudeau.

00:12:25.820 So it's like a vote for Trudeau or a vote for Aaron O'Toole is actually the same.

00:12:31.080 And, you know, and furthermore, I agree with you, Alexa, no spine, no firm with his convictions.

00:12:37.260 And it reminded me, you know, going back more than 20 years ago, remember Paul Martin running for the Liberal Party?

00:12:42.500 And he got the nickname Mr. Dithers because he couldn't make up his mind.

00:12:47.320 He kept flip-flopping.

00:12:48.300 And I think the ultimate moment was it was around Christmastime and he had a photo op at his house and he was putting a Christmas wreath on the door.

00:12:57.960 And a reporter asked, Mr. Martin, it was just a fun question, but it became a disaster for him.

00:13:04.880 Is that a Christmas wreath or a holiday wreath?

00:13:08.540 And his eyes, it was like Bambi looking into the high beams of a Hummer on the highway.

00:13:13.960 He was terrified.

00:13:14.920 He didn't know what, he didn't want to offend any camp.

00:13:18.420 So his answer was, it's a $50 wreath.

00:13:21.820 And it was just so pathetic.

00:13:24.100 And, you know, a man of zero convictions.

00:13:27.240 I think that was the case with Aaron O'Toole as well.

00:13:30.600 We've got to say, though, as much as the Conservatives whine about vote splitting by the PPC, it works both ways.

00:13:37.740 And I think what Aaron O'Toole was counting on, Alexa, was the NDP to do really, really well.

00:13:44.260 And really, they were stuck in neutral.

00:13:46.520 I think they were hoping that a lot of liberals that are disenchanted with Trudeau and his shenanigans would go to Jagmeet Singh's NDP.

00:13:54.080 And that didn't seem to happen either.

00:13:57.240 I think Jagmeet Singh did a really great mistake to use TikTok or other, like, social media that is, it's not credible.

00:14:09.640 Like, why using TikTok small dance when you are running for being Prime Minister of Canada?

00:14:17.360 I know.

00:14:18.060 That's his horrible.

00:14:19.160 And in the meantime, not taking questions from us.

00:14:22.620 Exactly.

00:14:23.320 You know, the mainstream media keeps painting this narrative, oh, what a wonderful leader, how classy, how savvy.

00:14:29.460 And meanwhile, no, I think he's a petulant brat.

00:14:33.040 You, I, anyone else ask him questions, and it's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you.

00:14:39.080 That's not Prime Minister material.

00:14:41.420 No, and when you look at the leader of the party, Trudeau, diabolize our media and don't want to answer us.

00:14:52.080 And we're not all, answer to our question, but not really answer to the question.

00:14:56.880 He just answered, but around the question.

00:14:59.820 Yes.

00:15:00.620 Jack Mincing, no, no, no, straight, close-minding.

00:15:04.600 Yeah.

00:15:04.840 And Yves-François Blanchet, same, same.

00:15:08.160 So it's, I'm not answering, it's a no, no, and don't try to diabolize us, don't try to answer.

00:15:14.620 It's like, Jack Mincing and Yves-François Blanchet, same, perfect.

00:15:18.440 And you have the two other extreme, Trudeau is like, trying to destroy us, and you have a Renato who try to pass really well to answer us without answering the main question.

00:15:32.400 Of course.

00:15:33.000 But with the others who say it's policy, that I don't answer questions from Rebel News.

00:15:37.960 Well, a person makes that policy.

00:15:40.500 They can't convey the ostensible policy reason for the policy.

00:15:45.580 It's ridiculous.

00:15:46.280 And we have thick skins, we don't care if we get the bum's rush.

00:15:49.980 It's disrespectful for a huge percentage of Canadians that don't agree with them.

00:15:55.660 They're saying, you're not worthy of an answer.

00:15:58.040 Yeah, but the policy's from them.

00:15:59.620 Oh, of course.

00:16:00.600 Yeah, and they choose the media that they want.

00:16:04.060 Of course.

00:16:05.820 I don't, I don't understand.

00:16:07.900 I don't understand it either.

00:16:08.940 I mean, my goodness, if Jagmeet Singh thought he was going to be prime minister, he would have to deal,

00:16:15.060 in terms of foreign policy, with some of the most horrible regimes on the planet, terrorist groups like the Taliban.

00:16:23.160 He's expected to deal with that, but he can't take a question.

00:16:26.580 He's that fragile?

00:16:27.760 Give me a break.

00:16:28.800 I saw your interaction with Kerry.

00:16:30.900 Oh, yes.

00:16:31.980 I was, like, keeping telling the same narrative that he said to me.

00:16:38.180 He's the communications director for the Conservative Party, yes.

00:16:42.600 At one point, I would just say, can you change your cassette?

00:16:46.020 Like, you know, like your tape?

00:16:47.920 Change your tape, because your tape is always the same thing.

00:16:50.660 And it doesn't make sense.

00:16:52.820 We have a 1.5 million-plus YouTube audience, most of whom, presumably, are right of centre.

00:17:00.120 It's crazy.

00:17:01.500 One last question, because we've got to wrap it up.

00:17:05.540 A minority government in Canada, the shelf life, Alexa, is between 18 and 24 months.

00:17:10.520 So, within two years, we're going to go back into this vortex of insanity.

00:17:16.280 To focus the question on the PPC, what do you see as the future of the PPC?

00:17:22.380 I think, yes, they're getting great popular support, but you've got to translate that into at least one seat to have a voice in the House of Commons.

00:17:31.960 Any predictions?

00:17:32.620 I think with the year we come, with Trudeau as a leader, again, things will get more, like, strict and more strict.

00:17:45.760 And people will raise at one point.

00:17:48.360 So, the PPC will probably have the chance to get the other population that now did vote for Trudeau that will say it's enough, and they will join the PPC movement.

00:17:59.680 So, they have maybe the chance to get a seat at the next election.

00:18:06.440 But, fun fact, Trudeau is the only leader who will say that will not respect the four-year mandate if you get the minority.

00:18:16.540 But all the other leaders were okay to be the leader of a minority government for four years to come.

00:18:23.160 It's unbelievable.

00:18:24.520 Wow.

00:18:24.880 Well, you know what?

00:18:25.960 We will be around, certainly, to cover the shenanigans that happen in the next two years.

00:18:31.600 And I just want to say, before we leave, excellent reporting on the campaign.

00:18:37.500 You did a great job, Ms. Lavoie.

00:18:39.380 So, thank you so much.

00:18:41.060 And there you have it, folks.

00:18:42.460 We'll just have to see what's in store for the PPC when the next election is called,

00:18:46.920 and whether or not Erno Toole is still the leader of the Conservative Party.

00:18:52.580 Keep it here. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:18:56.120 I'm here today to stand with my friend Becky, who is an RN, and, of course, she's totally against the mandate that's come down.

00:19:09.220 I want my freedom away from the vaccine.

00:19:12.700 It's my choice.

00:19:14.020 We should all be banding together and allowing people to have choice.

00:19:17.660 Same thing. I want choice. I want freedom of choice as well.

00:19:20.700 Now, I can marry who I want. I can sleep with who I want. 0.98

00:19:24.680 I can choose to keep a fetus if I want, but I can't choose to pick what I want to put in my body.

00:19:31.860 There may be alternatives for treatment even if so.

00:19:35.120 How? Why do I not have my body based on...

00:19:40.600 We need to move on, live our lives. Come on, guys. You can do this.

00:19:45.580 I came to the protest today because I'm against masks. I'm against the mandates.

00:19:49.100 I'm against coercing people. I'm against the job completely.

00:19:53.960 I've been coming here for the past 18 months.

00:19:57.020 Seeing the angry Albertan here, speaking up and talking out, and it's good.

00:20:02.740 It's good to meet people who are like-minded, and lots of people think the same way.

00:20:07.480 Our freedom is at stake. This is terrible.

00:20:10.200 Yeah, this is all one big fan of...

00:20:12.080 And we just can't take the tyranny anymore.

00:20:15.780 We can't take the stripping down of our freedom one after another, after another, after another.

00:20:21.200 Well, if I don't get the vaccine, then I can't do anything.

00:20:25.400 I can't watch my kids play hockey. I can't take them to the pool.

00:20:29.280 I'm losing my job. I work for Alberta Health Services.

00:20:32.320 And I'm not doing it. I'm not complying. I'm not going along with this. This is so wrong.

00:20:38.460 Well, I'm here because I have four children, and I'm standing up for their right to make medical choices for themselves.

00:20:44.660 I heard Justin Trudeau say that if you don't believe in vaccine passports, you just might be a misogynist, is what I heard.

00:20:53.760 What the Prime Minister has to say about me means nothing to me. He's a liar.

00:21:00.540 The Prime Minister in here is not my Prime Minister. He is nothing.

00:21:06.140 He no love Canada. He no love the people. He love himself. He's evil.

00:21:11.460 Well, that was Sheila Gunn-Reed in Edmonton last Saturday getting demonstrators to weigh in on the odious vaccine passports. 0.99

00:21:19.400 And what a bunch of yahoos, eh? 1.00

00:21:21.280 I mean, speaking out in favour of, oh, I don't know, freedom?

00:21:25.580 Trumpeting the idea of reasonable accommodation?

00:21:29.200 Yeah, for the mainstream media and the political and bureaucratic elites, these are just so many COVID-iots. 0.96

00:21:37.100 Well, to me, they are freedom fighters standing up against medical apartheid.

00:21:42.980 And with more on this story is Sheila Gunn-Reed herself.

00:21:46.240 Welcome to Rebel Roundup.

00:21:48.240 Hi, David. Thanks for having me on the show.

00:21:50.420 It is always a pleasure, my friend.

00:21:52.740 So, Sheila, just curious, whatever happened to that old chestnut the feminists have trumpeted for decades now, 1.00

00:22:00.780 especially those on the left, my body, my choice.

00:22:04.040 Has that evaporated or is it still around, but it only applies to a woman terminating a pregnancy?

00:22:12.400 No, it's still around.

00:22:14.460 You see, my body, my choice is the government saying that that's my body.

00:22:19.160 That's my choice.

00:22:19.900 That's my body, too.

00:22:20.840 That's my choice.

00:22:21.500 That's my body, too.

00:22:22.420 All your bodies.

00:22:23.960 Those are my bodies.

00:22:25.400 That's what the government is saying.

00:22:26.600 That's what Jason Kenney is saying.

00:22:28.640 I mean, it's a constant deluge of people now in my email, and I'm sure you're getting the same thing,

00:22:35.480 that they're being told they're going to lose their job unless they get the vaccine,

00:22:40.180 or they are being separated from their family unless they get the vaccine.

00:22:46.400 And this, for whatever reason, it's a medical procedure they do not want to undertake,

00:22:52.520 be it for religious reasons, moral reasons, or just because they don't want it.

00:22:59.400 It could be for health reasons.

00:23:00.800 It's really not my business, and it's not the government's business,

00:23:03.620 but there is a vast swath of society that is just being carved out and stuck over there.

00:23:14.160 They are the people now who have to eat outside.

00:23:17.660 They can't visit grandma.

00:23:19.420 They don't get to go to a movie theater.

00:23:21.260 They don't get to watch their minor children play sports or do gymnastics

00:23:26.600 because mom and dad aren't vaccinated, and their 11-year-old is too young to get vaccinated.

00:23:31.840 This is where we're at now in Alberta.

00:23:34.000 From a premier who said just a little while ago, what even is a vaccine passport?

00:23:38.800 That's just a conspiracy theory.

00:23:40.480 Well, he learned real fast, and it's not a conspiracy theory.

00:23:43.700 It's a conspiracy fact.

00:23:45.600 You know, Sheila, let's talk about that premier, Premier Kenney.

00:23:48.920 There are all kinds of whispers out there that there might be a palace coup that so many of the MLAs in Alberta,

00:23:59.040 when it comes to their grassroots, they are furious.

00:24:02.740 They are mad about this.

00:24:04.220 I think Jason Kenney tried to deflect some of that anger or cause a distraction by demoting Shandro,

00:24:13.340 or I don't know if it was a demotion or a lateral move, however you want to interpret it.

00:24:17.960 But that kind of came out of the blue, and I see he's getting all kinds of criticism from the usual suspects in the mainstream media for that.

00:24:24.780 But is Jason Kenney going to get out of this mess?

00:24:29.880 Because there is an election next year, and as we've said before,

00:24:33.260 all he's had in terms of a weapon in his quiver is time.

00:24:39.560 But I think time's running out.

00:24:41.160 People are going to remember this.

00:24:43.680 Yeah.

00:24:44.020 I mean, it feels as though he's just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

00:24:48.220 And from what I understand, Shandro has been moved from health, where he has been the worst health minister Albert has ever had.

00:24:58.700 And they've moved him over to labor.

00:25:00.720 And the union should be super happy about that, because they are in complete lockstep with him with regard to vaccine passports.

00:25:08.020 The unions wanted it, and he wants it.

00:25:10.600 So here we are.

00:25:11.580 He's their guy now.

00:25:13.040 So the left should not be upset.

00:25:14.920 You couldn't have a more useless labor minister, and he's going to do whatever they want.

00:25:20.040 He's done whatever the health care unions wanted from the very beginning.

00:25:23.660 It's just, you know, the people who work in labor that might have a problem with him.

00:25:27.860 But, yeah, with regard to Jason Kenney, he's never going to please the left.

00:25:32.720 They don't like him.

00:25:33.940 They think he's got a hidden agenda, which I have yet to see yet.

00:25:37.720 But as a conservative, I actually do think he has a hidden agenda at this point, because he says things.

00:25:46.380 And then a couple of weeks later, he just flip flops on it.

00:25:50.600 Like the summer wasn't even over.

00:25:53.460 Literally the first day of fall, I think, was yesterday.

00:25:56.260 So summer wasn't even over.

00:25:57.940 And we were locked down, and the best summer ever was snatched from us just like that.

00:26:03.820 He said, you know, we're open for good.

00:26:06.740 We're never locking down.

00:26:08.420 Restrictions are gone.

00:26:09.840 Cross my heart and hope to die.

00:26:12.160 And then, yeah, not only are we locked down, we're wearing masks and vaccine passports.

00:26:16.500 We are one of the strictest lockdown restrictions in the country.

00:26:20.220 And it happened literally overnight.

00:26:23.200 At least in Ontario, you guys had some lead time to prepare yourselves emotionally and psychologically to being pariahs.

00:26:29.720 It happened to us in Alberta within the span of a couple of days.

00:26:33.560 And I don't think Jason Kenney can dig himself out of this hole.

00:26:37.060 If he wants to save the party over himself, he's going to have to go.

00:26:43.760 And there are rumblings that there are MLAs who are going to stand up to him.

00:26:48.940 But where are they?

00:26:50.640 I haven't seen them yet.

00:26:51.760 Bunch of cowards.

00:26:53.580 Yeah, well, you know, give it some time and give it the runway for Kenny to make even more bad decisions, Sheila, if that is indeed possible at this point.

00:27:04.640 But, you know, going back to that protest, what I liked about it, Sheila, is, you know, the mainstream media and certain premiers and bureaucrats and the medical establishment,

00:27:17.900 they like to paint these people, well, to use Premier Ford's word, a bunch of yahoos. 0.93

00:27:24.320 Yeah.

00:27:24.680 They use the word covidiots.

00:27:27.200 They're so mocking.

00:27:28.520 They're so demonizing.

00:27:30.000 And the people you interviewed, they seem so nice.

00:27:33.960 They seem so balanced.

00:27:35.840 They weren't using profanity.

00:27:37.720 They were making solid arguments.

00:27:39.880 And let me ask you this.

00:27:42.140 Was there any other media out there to actually cover the protests and see who these covidiots are?

00:27:48.880 Oh, there were.

00:27:50.100 But they're scared to talk to these people.

00:27:51.840 You can see them standing like at 100 yards away.

00:27:56.340 And, you know, it's mainstream media because you're the only people wearing a mask outside.

00:28:00.340 And they're standing over there and it's like wildlife photography.

00:28:04.620 They've got like their long range lenses because they don't want to get close to this horrible super spreader event of covidiots.

00:28:12.900 That's what they've convinced themselves they are.

00:28:15.040 But unlike the mainstream media at Rebel News, we don't talk about the people.

00:28:19.480 We talk to the people.

00:28:20.780 And you saw it's men, women, old, young, diverse crowd, people from all backgrounds, socioeconomic status.

00:28:31.600 It's all people who just care about freedom and privacy and autonomy of the self.

00:28:39.960 Really, that's what this is all about.

00:28:41.880 Some of them told me, like, look, Sheila, I'm vaccinated, but I got to be here for my friends and family who choose not to be.

00:28:48.480 Because they don't get they don't get a choice anymore.

00:28:51.280 They're like, I chose this.

00:28:53.520 They don't get a choice anymore.

00:28:55.260 They're being cut out of society.

00:28:57.300 And, you know, it's it's really funny to hear people argue that those people who are protesting are selfish because the selfish people are the ones who are saying those people over there cannot come eat in a restaurant because I have no confidence in my vaccine.

00:29:16.280 So I need to placate my hypochondria.

00:29:19.820 So I want you to discriminate against them.

00:29:23.220 That's the selfish person, not the person who just wants to be left alone to live their lives.

00:29:27.520 Yeah, no, we've spoken about this before.

00:29:29.900 My goodness.

00:29:31.100 These are the salad days for the covid, Karens.

00:29:34.000 You know, just the other day I saw something on Twitter and it was this poor man at a cafe at the Boston airport, I believe.

00:29:42.180 And this woman's walking by like 20 feet away from him with a child and she's berating him for not wearing a mask.

00:29:50.060 And I'm thinking and he's so polite, polite beyond any measure I might be because she's nagging and nagging and she's in no danger.

00:29:59.860 But she demands he suffer as much as she is.

00:30:03.260 And as far as I can tell, he's obeying the rules, Sheila, because you have to lower the mask if you're eating and drinking.

00:30:09.340 Right. But this is what this pandemic has done.

00:30:13.460 It's despicable.

00:30:15.160 Last word goes to you, my friend, in terms of the battlefield of Alberta,

00:30:20.200 when it comes to vaccine passports and all the other rubbish that is tied into this pandemic.

00:30:26.360 How do you see things playing out in the near future, Sheila?

00:30:30.460 I think we're going to see a replication of the restaurant rebellion out here when the government closed the restaurants and the restaurants said, no, no, we're just going to reopen ourselves.

00:30:42.420 And when they closed the hairdressers and the hairdresser said, I don't think so.

00:30:46.520 And they closed the tattoo shops and the tattoo shop said, not today, Satan.

00:30:50.720 We're going to see a lot of that.

00:30:52.180 The uptake on our new Civil Liberties Awareness Project, wewon'task.com has been incredible.

00:30:59.900 I stuck the first stickers on Natalie Klein, Blades to Fades barbershop owner. 0.73

00:31:05.560 I put my first stickers on her door and she posted a photo of it to social media.

00:31:11.540 And it's just been a deluge of other businesses saying, I want one of those stickers.

00:31:16.900 I'm not going to ask my customers what their vaccination status is.

00:31:20.940 I promise to mind my own business while I'm doing business.

00:31:27.140 And so I think we're going to see a lot of businesses who are doing the same thing saying, I'm not fighting with my customers.

00:31:34.560 I will serve everybody regardless of their vaccination status.

00:31:39.040 And, you know, that's the thing about Albertans.

00:31:41.460 We're tough to control.

00:31:42.700 And the government is going to learn that the hard way, I think, again this time.

00:31:47.160 Well, there you have it.

00:31:47.880 And, you know, and that is the other unfortunate thing about the vaccine passports.

00:31:52.260 You're forcing hospitality staff into becoming bouncers.

00:31:56.720 There was a story in Toronto recently, Sheila.

00:31:59.000 It was a man who runs a restaurant.

00:32:01.740 First of all, he's visually impaired.

00:32:03.660 So he can't even see these letters and phone codes.

00:32:07.680 And secondly, his daughter works at the restaurant.

00:32:11.360 She's only 16.

00:32:12.540 He doesn't want her subjected to, you know, like an argument every day.

00:32:19.140 So as a result, he's closed his indoor seating.

00:32:22.680 Yeah.

00:32:23.060 And it's only takeout and delivery.

00:32:25.800 And I can tell you, covering that business for seven years and another life, it is so difficult to make a buck.

00:32:32.920 And now you have government piling on and just making it even more difficult.

00:32:38.240 It is just a lose-lose situation.

00:32:41.200 And for all those that say we're all in this together, yeah, government bureaucracy, they never lost a paycheck.

00:32:47.260 One day of work.

00:32:48.640 Anything like that, Sheila.

00:32:49.900 But the private sector, they've suffered and suffered unless you have a lobbyist to go to bat for you like Walmart did.

00:32:57.880 And now you have them being put into the role of bylaw and law enforcement in terms of policing this thing.

00:33:06.340 It is just shameful and doubly so that so many conservative premiers are going down this route.

00:33:12.820 Anyway, Sheila, it was a great report.

00:33:14.680 Thank you so much.

00:33:15.440 I know you'll have an update very soon on We Won't Ask.

00:33:20.400 I can hardly wait for that.

00:33:21.780 In the meantime, you have a good weekend, my friend.

00:33:24.560 Thanks, David.

00:33:25.120 And just one more point before I go.

00:33:26.700 I know you're trying to wrap it up.

00:33:27.740 But just think about the position these restaurant owners are put in.

00:33:30.740 The only people they're allowed to serve at this point are the people who actively cheered for them to be forced to close their doors.

00:33:36.380 Yeah.

00:33:37.040 That's the only people patronizing them.

00:33:39.260 Anyway, thank you, David.

00:33:40.340 Have a great weekend.

00:33:41.240 Have a great weekend, everybody at home.

00:33:42.820 You too, my friend.

00:33:43.860 And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed somewhere in the northern hinterland of Alberta.

00:33:49.920 Keep it here, folks.

00:33:50.860 More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.

00:33:58.120 Folks, this is absolutely astounding.

00:34:00.120 Aaron O'Toole is 20 minutes late for his own rally.

00:34:02.880 Not because he got tied up in Hogtown traffic.

00:34:06.200 It's because he won't come out of the bus because little old me is here to ask him questions.

00:34:12.380 This is a man who wants to be prime minister?

00:34:14.820 Well, fancy that.

00:34:16.740 He's not getting out of the bus, but he's backing it up.

00:34:20.840 I know there's mainstream media types that Aaron O'Toole has all the time in the world for around the corner.

00:34:28.620 So I guess he's, rather than entertain questions from Rebel News, he's going to find another way into the building.

00:34:38.400 This is unbelievable, but, you know, you can't really drive a bus all that fast in an industrial parking lot.

00:34:46.000 So I guess we'll just follow the bus and see where it leads.

00:34:49.120 Just give us a little bit of room.

00:35:02.100 Oh, yeah, no problem.

00:35:03.300 I'm more than two meters away.

00:35:05.020 Who are you, sir?

00:35:05.860 I'm with the RCMP, sir.

00:35:07.000 You're with who, sir?

00:35:07.660 RCMP.

00:35:08.300 RCMP, okay.

00:35:09.040 You're not going to stand on my feet, are you?

00:35:11.160 Try not to, sir.

00:35:11.860 Okay, because I got my steel-toed boots in the car after the Trudeau event.

00:35:16.280 You look like a nice guy to me.

00:35:19.120 I'm not here to cause anyone harm.

00:35:21.240 I'm just asking questions.

00:35:23.220 That's all, sir.

00:35:24.640 Well, folks, I can tell you we're kind of being received like the skunk to the garden party. 0.75

00:35:31.540 They've moved the bus around the building, and Aaron O'Toole is still not coming out.

00:35:36.980 I mean, I pose no harm to him unless you consider, I don't know, insensitive, impolite questions as harmful things.

00:35:45.020 But he's got to come out of this bus sometime or another, right?

00:35:50.520 So we'll be right here.

00:35:52.300 You disrupt our events.

00:35:53.340 Like, I'm not going to, we're not going to do this.

00:35:55.560 Give me a definition of disruption.

00:35:57.280 What you're doing right now.

00:35:58.380 So I'm asking you to leave.

00:35:59.380 I want to ask questions of Aaron O'Toole.

00:36:01.520 I'm asking you to leave.

00:36:02.280 Okay.

00:36:03.140 Your outlet, and you also continually disrupt our events.

00:36:06.920 So I'm asking you to leave.

00:36:08.000 Isn't that funny?

00:36:08.440 My outlet.

00:36:08.920 13 months ago, Aaron O'Toole had nothing but time for us.

00:36:13.300 No, no, no.

00:36:13.660 Wait a minute.

00:36:14.140 Excuse me.

00:36:15.120 What changed?

00:36:16.060 What changed?

00:36:16.980 No, I'm not debating.

00:36:17.820 I'm asking a question.

00:36:19.020 What changed with Aaron O'Toole?

00:36:20.360 You're not on the sidewalk over there.

00:36:21.400 Does Aaron O'Toole regret moving the party further left, stiffing Rebel News, stiffing Jordan Peterson?

00:36:27.360 Does he, Corey?

00:36:28.380 We're going to ask that you leave.

00:36:30.060 Okay.

00:36:30.540 You disrupt the events.

00:36:32.260 So you're welcome to the sidewalk across the street.

00:36:34.680 I've just been standing here.

00:36:36.100 I've just been standing here.

00:36:37.080 How is that disruptive?

00:36:38.280 We have an event to start, and I'm asking you to leave.

00:36:41.460 And Aaron O'Toole is too cowardly to come out of a bus.

00:36:45.000 I'm happy to walk with you.

00:36:45.840 This man wants to be Prime Minister.

00:36:47.780 Yeah.

00:36:48.600 On Monday he will be, so I'm asking you to leave.

00:36:50.920 Oh, really?

00:36:51.440 Okay, then.

00:36:51.980 Then there should be nothing of concern, then.

00:36:55.360 This is not, this is public property, the berm.

00:36:58.860 If you have the blueprint to show me.

00:37:01.000 Do you have the blueprint?

00:37:02.280 This is what we've been told is the property to the curb.

00:37:05.360 Who told you that, Corey?

00:37:06.760 We have the, we have the, the, the event manager.

00:37:10.140 They have, they own the city.

00:37:11.140 And the public property, correct?

00:37:13.020 Certainly the road is.

00:37:14.220 I've been told to the curb, and I'd be careful there.

00:37:17.060 There's a car coming.

00:37:18.300 Corey, for the record, I think you're pathetic.

00:37:20.580 So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

00:37:22.460 Your 2021 edition of the Conservative Party of Canada, which, of course, went down in flames

00:37:28.640 on Monday night, even after bending the knee to the mean girls of the media party, who hate 1.00

00:37:34.980 the Conservatives, by the way.

00:37:36.820 Yet a Conservative-friendly media outlet, such as Rebel News, gets the bums' rush.

00:37:42.060 Now, gee, where have we seen this one play out before?

00:37:46.640 Oh, yeah, the 2019 edition of the Conservative Party of Canada, led by another lame-brain leader,

00:37:53.940 that would be Andrew Scheer.

00:37:55.840 You know, they never learn, do they?

00:37:58.840 In any event, you had plenty to say about a federal party that seems content to forever

00:38:04.700 be the official opposition, simply due to profound strategic stupidity.

00:38:11.700 Sonny J writes, I'm glad I didn't vote for PC.

00:38:15.520 PPC are the true Conservatives.

00:38:18.560 Oh, but Sonny, if you ask Team O'Toole, Monday night's result was actually a victory,

00:38:24.660 because the Conservatives held the Justin Trudeau Liberals to a minority government.

00:38:29.380 Unbelievable.

00:38:29.960 You know, I bet Aaron O'Toole is the kind of guy who does victory laps when he plays chess,

00:38:36.620 and the game ends in a stalemate.

00:38:38.520 Yeah, he didn't win, but he didn't lose either, right?

00:38:42.780 How wimpy, how delusional can you get?

00:38:47.100 Ragman X writes, disrupt?

00:38:49.380 A reporter doing actual journalism is disrupting?

00:38:53.320 These politicians have gotten far too comfortable playing their little pre-screened PR events

00:38:59.500 for anyone to trust them.

00:39:02.260 Yeah, and what an awful event it was, Ragman X. 1.00

00:39:05.340 There was actually more mainstream media jackals at this so-called rally

00:39:10.360 than there were Conservative supporters.

00:39:13.160 It made a Biden rally look Trumpian by comparison.

00:39:18.100 Bill Cox writes,

00:39:19.300 He is acting like a child.

00:39:21.880 He claims you are disrupting the event, but he won't specify how you are doing that.

00:39:28.100 Absolutely pathetic and cowardly.

00:39:31.160 Oh, and this just in,

00:39:32.780 Corey Han is a liar.

00:39:34.940 I checked out the property line.

00:39:36.720 It does not end at the curb, like he said.

00:39:39.100 He put me and my camerawoman in danger by demanding we stand in a live lane of traffic

00:39:45.700 as if we posed any threat whatsoever to Aaron O'Toole.

00:39:50.680 Actually, we did pose a threat.

00:39:53.060 We wanted to ask O'Toole some tough questions,

00:39:56.460 and apparently this ex-military man finds that to be too triggering.

00:40:02.860 Liam Reid writes,

00:40:04.320 Liam, that letter is a thing of beauty, but really, do we laugh or do we cry?

00:40:22.680 And finally, Ron M. writes,

00:40:24.240 He lost my vote for not talking to Rebel.

00:40:27.640 PPC all the way.

00:40:29.640 They act no different from Liberals.

00:40:31.660 It's time for a political shake-up in this country.

00:40:35.600 Hey, Corey, that's Corey Han.

00:40:38.740 Please take note of Ron's comment.

00:40:41.560 I think there might be, oh, I don't know, a million or so voters who feel exactly the same way.

00:40:46.980 And it is thanks to your ongoing policy of cowardice, flip-flopping, and lying.

00:40:54.400 Corey, let's start rebuilding the Conservative Party.

00:40:57.840 Step one, submit your resignation, you lying liar who can't stop lying. 0.68

00:41:03.980 That would be a good start.

00:41:05.940 Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup.

00:41:08.620 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:41:09.880 See you next week.

00:41:10.680 And hey, folks, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory.

00:41:14.900 Good night.

00:41:15.320 We'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - September 25, 2021

DAVID MENZIES ｜ Vaccine Passport Tyranny, Future of the PPC

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