Rebel News Podcast - Daytime talk show bullies attack a private citizen for being a good wife and mother

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through a 90-second clip from an Australian TV show.

00:00:05.620 I've watched this clip five times. It's just amazing. Every moment in it is just incredible.

00:00:13.240 And I want to take you through it, and you'll be able to grok it by listening to it,

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00:00:47.620 Tonight, a daytime talk show bullies a private citizen for being a good wife and mother. 0.88

00:01:01.860 It's so gross, but it reminds us who the media are.

00:01:05.460 It's February 13th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:10.900 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:14.640 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:18.720 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:24.580 I came across this video on Twitter.

00:01:33.020 It's a clip from the Today Show in Australia.

00:01:36.440 I wouldn't have seen it otherwise, of course, if it weren't on Twitter.

00:01:39.940 It's been watched millions of times online, surely more than the actual broadcast.

00:01:45.000 It's in an Australian accent, but this show and this format and the demographic who's watching it

00:01:52.000 is pretty much identical to similar shows in Canada, the United States, the UK, Australia, New Zealand,

00:01:59.620 probably other Western countries, too.

00:02:02.460 I think it's actually a very female audience who watches shows like this on daytime TV.

00:02:07.960 You can tell that by the subject matter of the shows, by the look and the sound of the set and the hosts.

00:02:13.260 And that's who's largely watching TV during the day.

00:02:17.740 Anyways, here's the tweet that I saw.

00:02:21.480 A Brisbane mum has been slammed, look at those capital letters, after revealing online, revealing, 0.63

00:02:28.520 she's confessing it, that she doesn't go to bed until the house is clean

00:02:32.760 and wakes up at 4.30 a.m. to make her husband breakfast and coffee.

00:02:37.980 What do you think about this?

00:02:39.880 I'll play the clip for you in a second.

00:02:41.640 Again, there's a video clip, but whenever you read a story that says the internet says

00:02:46.420 or people online are mad, you know you're entering a meadow of BS because that's not journalism.

00:02:53.780 That's not news.

00:02:55.000 I mean, I know this is a light, empty daytime talk show, but still, whenever a journalist

00:02:58.880 says people online say, that's just code for I say this, but I don't quite have the courage

00:03:04.700 to say it in my own name, and I don't really have any authoritative basis for it, so I'll

00:03:09.120 just say everyone's talking.

00:03:10.880 It's such a lazy trick.

00:03:12.720 You can literally find anyone saying something or anything online.

00:03:16.840 Facebook, Twitter, YouTube comments.

00:03:18.820 People online are saying this.

00:03:20.880 Yeah, and now you're saying it because you want to say it.

00:03:24.020 Just admit it.

00:03:24.640 Because you could have literally picked anything online if that's your own standard.

00:03:28.200 But back to the tweet.

00:03:30.920 Brisbane mom slammed after revealing online that she doesn't go to bed until the house 0.92

00:03:36.820 is clean and wakes up at 4.30 a.m. to make her husband breakfast and coffee. 0.64

00:03:40.100 What do you think about this?

00:03:40.920 So she doesn't go to bed until the house is clean.

00:03:45.620 Okay.

00:03:46.840 I mean, don't many households aspire to that?

00:03:49.600 Generally, people clear the dinner table after dinner, right?

00:03:52.760 I mean, I guess if you had a really late dinner party one night, you might leave some clean

00:03:56.640 up until the next morning.

00:03:57.580 But is cleaning up the dinner table before you go to bed really a shocking thing to do?

00:04:02.780 Clear the table.

00:04:04.000 I think that's maybe what was supposed to be dramatic here was waking up at 4.30 in the

00:04:10.060 morning, which is dramatic, to make her husband breakfast and coffee. 0.83

00:04:14.880 I mean, that's really early, 4.30.

00:04:16.700 But I'm guessing that it means her husband wakes up that early, too.

00:04:22.120 I mean, you wouldn't wake up at 4.30 a.m. to make coffee and breakfast for someone if

00:04:26.400 they weren't getting up until 6 or 7 a.m.

00:04:30.040 I mean, I'm guessing he could be getting up at 5 a.m.

00:04:33.480 But look, I'm not a master chef.

00:04:35.380 It typically only takes me about 10 minutes to make toast and eggs and coffee, doesn't

00:04:39.880 it?

00:04:41.080 So, wow, she's getting up that early.

00:04:42.960 That is early.

00:04:43.540 But doesn't that mean he's getting up early, too?

00:04:48.100 I'll play the video for you now.

00:04:49.320 But you can see how this is set up.

00:04:53.440 This mom is scandalous, worthy of discussion, worthy of being slammed in capital letters, 1.00

00:05:01.840 worthy of being picked apart on national TV and now around the world on the Internet because

00:05:05.980 she admits to doing some domestic chores.

00:05:10.600 And, of course, the worst part is that she made breakfast for her husband as opposed to,

00:05:15.200 I guess, each of them standing next to each other, cooking eggs separately on the stove

00:05:20.820 at the same time.

00:05:21.680 I don't know.

00:05:22.100 I think the word slammed was put in capital letters because I think even the Today Show

00:05:29.140 knows that this is pretty weak stuff and they have to juice it up a bit to make sure you're

00:05:34.640 angry at this woman.

00:05:36.540 All right.

00:05:36.900 Let's play the full clip.

00:05:37.740 I want to take you back to the 1950s, or at least that's what I thought when I read

00:05:42.300 this Brisbane mum's Facebook post.

00:05:45.020 Brooke Smith shared her routine online.

00:05:46.940 Here's what she said.

00:05:48.080 I always make sure I don't go to bed until everyone's lunches are packed.

00:05:50.900 Their clothes are set out for the next day, including my husband's.

00:05:53.700 And the house is clean.

00:05:54.740 Dishwasher is on and a load of washing is on.

00:05:57.480 I always get up early, 4.30, with my husband to make his breakfast and coffee.

00:06:02.820 Um, go, Brooke.

00:06:07.160 Whatever.

00:06:08.300 Um, I mean, I'll tell you what, though, Chris, I mean, a lot of people online are saying,

00:06:14.060 well done, are praising her.

00:06:16.280 Who?

00:06:17.100 Who are these people?

00:06:19.060 Oh, has he hypnotised her or something?

00:06:22.020 Who does this stuff?

00:06:23.840 Making his breakfast and then putting his clothes out of a night?

00:06:27.820 Is he disabled or something? 1.00

00:06:29.200 Like, seriously.

00:06:29.960 It's like, get a grip, get off your bum and do stuff yourself.

00:06:34.320 My only theory is that she might actually like her husband and she might actually like

00:06:37.900 to get up at 4.30 and spend some time with him.

00:06:39.180 No, I mean, I like my husband, but make your own bloody breakfast and coffee.

00:06:44.340 I mean, you know.

00:06:46.080 But the amazing thing, apparently this couple run an MMA fighting gym.

00:06:50.120 Oh, mixed martial arts.

00:06:51.220 Mixed martial arts.

00:06:51.980 And they also breed bulldogs, so they can do whatever they want.

00:06:54.660 I'm like, you're not arguing.

00:06:55.800 Hey, you know what?

00:06:56.520 If it makes her happy, but, I mean, nothing in that list of things there, you know.

00:07:01.280 And she's got four children under the age of six.

00:07:03.720 But did you see her photos too?

00:07:04.920 She still had time to, like, make her hair look beautiful and put a makeup on. 0.62

00:07:07.740 She's killing it. 1.00

00:07:08.420 She looks gorgeous.

00:07:09.760 I think she looks gorgeous.

00:07:10.980 Yeah, you're making the rest of us look bad.

00:07:12.400 So let's go slowly a bit.

00:07:14.700 This mum, Brooke, is a private person.

00:07:18.740 She's not a public person.

00:07:20.100 She's not a politician. 1.00

00:07:21.800 She's got a Facebook page like two billion other people do.

00:07:25.360 She's got some family photos.

00:07:26.740 And I guess she's made the settings on her Facebook account so that strangers from the

00:07:31.940 Today Show can creep through her family pictures and put them on TV without her permission. 0.99

00:07:37.340 She's not a celebrity, although you must admit she's very pretty and her kids look very cute

00:07:43.400 too and she's telegenic, I think.

00:07:46.900 But the point is she's a private person who put her comments on a Facebook group for fellow

00:07:52.000 mums who want to share tips mom to mom about how to deal with little issues around the house.

00:07:57.500 I checked out the page.

00:07:58.820 It's moms chatting together about household matters, sharing ideas and tips and being friends.

00:08:04.080 It's normal humans being nice to each other.

00:08:06.540 I think that's how moms give tips. 1.00

00:08:10.280 Guys, I mean, I remember I had to change this strange LED light in our house.

00:08:14.480 I didn't know how to do it.

00:08:15.360 I didn't go on a Facebook page, guys, helping guys.

00:08:17.860 I searched for it on YouTube.

00:08:19.840 I found a how-to video by some handy guy, watched it and did it.

00:08:23.480 So that's how guys get household help.

00:08:25.960 How do I fix this?

00:08:27.140 Watch a YouTube video.

00:08:28.460 You don't go to a support group.

00:08:29.860 That's not a male way.

00:08:30.700 The female way, I think, is a Facebook group where there's some camaraderie. 1.00

00:08:38.040 That's all this Facebook mums page was.

00:08:40.800 Mums chatting with mums privately.

00:08:43.100 And this TV show is outraged by that.

00:08:46.120 And the TV show chooses to pluck some mum from it and hold her up for national ridicule. 1.00

00:08:51.740 That's creepy.

00:08:52.660 That's a version of doxing.

00:08:54.920 You know what I mean by that?

00:08:56.760 Did you see that one lady on the couch there who said what Brooke's family business is? 1.00

00:09:04.860 Why are you giving me the full first name and last name and city and business details of a private mum

00:09:12.620 and showing me pictures of her kids and then telling the world that she's being slammed?

00:09:18.840 What's wrong with you?

00:09:19.880 Look, I slam people all the time on this show, but they're public people in the public sphere.

00:09:24.840 And I generally don't mention their kids unless their kids, for some extraordinary reason, are genuinely newsworthy.

00:09:31.280 And typically they themselves have already chosen to make them public in some way.

00:09:36.220 We never interview children on our channel.

00:09:39.860 But really, what is this show saying?

00:09:43.640 What's this woman saying? 0.99

00:09:44.660 She's saying she makes lunch in advance the night before.

00:09:47.640 Okay, that's probably a good idea if you have to wake up at 4.30 a.m.

00:09:50.900 So you don't have to wake up at 4 a.m. to make lunch.

00:09:52.860 Make lunch the night before.

00:09:53.740 Good idea.

00:09:54.100 Put it in the fridge.

00:09:54.880 And she has a load of washing and puts the dishwasher on before going to bed.

00:10:00.140 Isn't that the smartest time to put those on overnight?

00:10:02.620 Even I have the brains to put the dishwasher on at the end of the day when everyone's done and let it go overnight.

00:10:10.260 I'm finding this fact pattern really hard to be mad about.

00:10:15.920 But boy, are they mad at her.

00:10:18.200 That first TV presenter there, I Googled it.

00:10:20.980 Her name is Alison Langdon.

00:10:23.480 She seems really mad.

00:10:25.280 Why?

00:10:26.540 I mean, isn't she a TV star, a celebrity? 0.94

00:10:30.440 She's on TV.

00:10:31.420 That's the highest heights in our culture today, not being a mom, but being on TV.

00:10:36.380 Now, I went on Alison Langdon's Instagram page, and I saw this picture.

00:10:41.100 And maybe I'm prowling around her page, but she positively advertises it on her site.

00:10:46.600 So I think she wants me to look at her posed Photoshop pictures.

00:10:50.460 And I saw this picture.

00:10:52.560 So Alison Langdon is a mom, too.

00:10:55.660 And she wants you to know, because this is on her official page, that she promotes on her website.

00:11:00.040 So here she is talking about how exhausted she is.

00:11:03.360 Look at that.

00:11:04.240 That's a funny picture.

00:11:05.100 She's practically falling asleep in the car, while her little one is in the back, falling asleep, too.

00:11:11.440 Here's another photo.

00:11:12.620 And she writes,

00:11:14.560 This is how my Friday night looks these days, watching Channel 9 News, reading the Today Show briefs for first day back at work,

00:11:22.080 weekend today with David Campbell, Jane Atzo, etc.

00:11:26.700 The joys of the modern day working mom.

00:11:29.200 Okay, got it.

00:11:31.660 So Brooke Smith, that gorgeous, happy mom from Brisbane.

00:11:36.660 What was that, four kids?

00:11:38.080 Obviously loves her husband.

00:11:40.620 So Brooke's got it all wrong.

00:11:43.160 But Alison Langdon, with those two beautiful kids who obviously want to play with her.

00:11:48.260 It's Friday night, and she's saying, sorry kids, I've got to read this briefing note for work.

00:11:57.240 The joys of the working mom.

00:11:59.380 It's almost like she's saying that ironically.

00:12:02.880 Now that was posted by her last year.

00:12:04.760 So she's had these little people, and she's been working, and she's got these briefing notes.

00:12:10.280 I wonder if it's gotten worse for her or better.

00:12:13.300 More stress.

00:12:14.140 Kids can be demanding.

00:12:16.840 And maybe she wishes she had someone waking up at 4.30 a.m. for her to make her coffee and breakfast.

00:12:24.240 Someone who took care of all the household chores so she could go out there in the big bad world and make the money for the household. 1.00

00:12:31.140 They really hated that 4.30 a.m. part.

00:12:33.620 I checked on Google, and it looks like Alison Langford's show, the Today Show, starts at 5.30 a.m.

00:12:41.600 Just going by Google.

00:12:42.660 I've never watched it, obviously.

00:12:44.340 So she's on TV at 5.30 a.m.

00:12:46.420 There's no way she's getting up later than 4.30 a.m.

00:12:50.180 Because she's got to get to work and get all that TV makeup on. 0.98

00:12:54.180 So she's getting up that early, too.

00:12:56.060 Was there maybe, maybe, maybe a little bit of jealousy here?

00:12:59.300 Maybe she wishes someone helped her a bit more?

00:13:05.140 I want to take you back to the 1950s, or at least that's what I thought when I read this.

00:13:10.080 Yeah, the 1950s.

00:13:12.720 Stupid Brooke doesn't work for a large soulless corporation getting up before dawn reading stupid briefing notes. 1.00

00:13:20.060 Instead of playing with her beautiful kids on a Friday night, stupid Brooke, get out of the 50s. 1.00

00:13:27.260 What does this mean?

00:13:28.640 Go, Brooke. 1.00

00:13:29.940 Whatever.

00:13:30.900 I'm not sure what go, Brooke, whatever means in Australian slang.

00:13:35.920 I don't know what that means.

00:13:37.000 I think it's like saying, yeah, Brooke, if that makes you happy, you go do that.

00:13:42.700 But I'm laughing at you.

00:13:43.720 I think that's what it means.

00:13:45.300 Yeah, sure, Alison.

00:13:46.320 You really, really don't want what Brooke has.

00:13:49.220 Sure you don't.

00:13:51.540 And then some other guy who looks, I couldn't find his name on Google.

00:13:55.080 It looks like he's about 40 years old.

00:13:56.560 He feels the need to chime in.

00:13:58.460 Maybe he sees that Alison Langford is really digging a hole.

00:14:02.080 And so he's really mad, too.

00:14:03.940 Listen to him.

00:14:04.520 Chris, I mean, a lot of people online are saying, well done, are praising her.

00:14:10.260 Who?

00:14:10.940 Who are these people?

00:14:12.020 Has he hypnotized her or something?

00:14:15.920 Who does this stuff?

00:14:17.740 Making his breakfast and then putting his clothes out of a night?

00:14:21.720 Is he disabled or something? 1.00

00:14:23.140 Like, seriously.

00:14:24.540 Get a grip.

00:14:25.860 Get off your bum and do stuff yourself.

00:14:28.300 Oh, yeah.

00:14:28.900 That lazy husband.

00:14:30.800 Get off your butt.

00:14:33.280 Well, it sounds like that lazy husband is getting up at 4.30.

00:14:36.780 Or maybe he sleeps in until 4.45 when his breakfast is ready.

00:14:42.280 I'm guessing he's getting up at 4.45 to work.

00:14:45.140 That's generally why guys get up that early.

00:14:47.360 So he's probably not lazy, is he?

00:14:50.400 And I'm just going to go out on a limb here.

00:14:52.420 He probably works harder than some, I don't know, TV daytime commentator who sits on a couch and talks about gossip all day.

00:15:02.620 Just a guess that any job is harder than that guy who's calling him lazy.

00:15:07.700 But that beautiful, gorgeous wife, Brooke, she's impossible, says that Today Show man. 1.00

00:15:14.920 She must be hypnotized.

00:15:17.000 Because, come on, what wife would do that for me? 1.00

00:15:19.740 Oh, did I say mean?

00:15:20.980 I meant for him.

00:15:22.060 Yeah, that's what.

00:15:23.900 I think that's called projection by psychologists.

00:15:27.300 It looks like the Today Show celebrities are talking about Brooke from Brisbane.

00:15:32.420 That's what they say they're doing.

00:15:34.120 But I think they're really talking about their own lives.

00:15:39.140 And that guy on the couch is angry that a woman who happens to be that pretty would be that nice to her husband. 0.99

00:15:47.840 So she's got to be stupid or duped or hypnotized because no woman is that nice to him, maybe?

00:15:57.040 I don't know.

00:15:57.720 What an unhappy lot they seem.

00:15:59.340 And the thing about being unhappy is that sometimes maybe you cope with being unhappy by being mad at people who are happy and pull them down a bit, maybe.

00:16:09.040 Well, there was another woman on the couch who briefly tried to defend Brooke, but Alison Langford wasn't having any of it. 1.00

00:16:16.040 My only theory is that she might actually like her husband and she might actually like to get up at 4.30 and spend some time with you.

00:16:20.880 I mean, I like my husband, but make your own bloody breakfast and coffee.

00:16:26.020 I mean, you know.

00:16:26.640 I'm sure you like your husband, Alison.

00:16:29.140 I'm sure you do.

00:16:31.120 But maybe you'd like him a little bit better if he got up at 4.30 a.m. to make you coffee before you put on the pants in the family and go to work at 5.30 a.m. for your talk show.

00:16:40.980 Don't lie.

00:16:41.460 Of course you would.

00:16:42.460 Any human being would.

00:16:44.640 Alison Langford, the TV star, isn't grousing about getting up early to make her husband coffee. 0.82

00:16:52.020 I'm guessing he sleeps in.

00:16:53.800 Alison Langford, the happy TV star with the perfect life, is grousing that he, her husband, isn't getting up early to make her coffee and breakfast.

00:17:03.100 That's my guess.

00:17:04.860 I swear it's like these people are miserable.

00:17:07.340 And they're letting out years of pain by projecting this onto a mom, a private mom, a mom on a Facebook page, a nobody in the celebrity world who they wanted to puff up into the public person so they could rage at her.

00:17:20.080 Look at this.

00:17:20.780 Hey, you know what?

00:17:21.260 If it makes her happy, but, I mean, nothing in that list of things there, you know.

00:17:25.860 She never finished that sentence.

00:17:28.100 If it makes her happy, to do what?

00:17:31.920 To make a cup of coffee and breakfast for her husband?

00:17:34.040 Sure.

00:17:35.660 Do that if it makes you happy, you 1950s hypnotized woman. 0.65

00:17:38.740 Geez, if that's what they all think, that a basic chore, I swear it takes 10 minutes to make breakfast, toast and eggs, even I know that.

00:17:50.240 If that's considered so extreme parenting, extreme husbanding or wifing, that you'd be nuts to do it for your spouse.

00:18:00.220 You have to be hypnotized to make coffee for your spouse.

00:18:02.920 I can only imagine what they live like, what they think is normal.

00:18:07.640 And then there's this.

00:18:08.540 But did you see her photos, too?

00:18:09.740 She still had time to, like, make her hair look beautiful and put her makeup on.

00:18:12.600 She looks gorgeous.

00:18:14.600 I think she looks gorgeous.

00:18:15.920 I think she's right.

00:18:16.760 I think Brooke is gorgeous. 0.81

00:18:18.120 Maybe that's what makes Alison Langford so mad. 1.00

00:18:20.680 And I'm not sure who said they're women attacking women. 1.00

00:18:23.940 Did you hear that part?

00:18:24.900 I'm guessing it was a different guy on the panel.

00:18:27.620 But isn't that the truth, eh?

00:18:29.840 Women attacking women. 1.00

00:18:30.880 And that's what this show should be called.

00:18:32.820 If a guy does something dramatic or extravagant for a woman, for his wife or girlfriend,

00:18:39.800 is it a common thing for other guys to tear him down and disparage him?

00:18:43.880 I'm not talking about a guy being subservient to and abused by his wife, like Prince Harry is by Meghan Markle.

00:18:51.300 I'm not talking about a woman abusing a man like this.

00:19:00.880 I'm not talking about a weak-willed man being dominated and controlled by his wife.

00:19:13.700 Harry obviously is by Meghan Markle.

00:19:15.820 Excuse us.

00:19:19.280 I'm talking about a guy doing what Brooke here is doing, doing something positive, maybe a little extravagant for his wife, a big gift, jewelry, a trip, new clothes, vacation, here's a gift certificate for a massage, you know, some sort of surprise.

00:19:39.880 Maybe it's just my circle of friends, but I don't see guys tearing down other guys for doing little nice things for their wives.

00:19:47.740 Usually that translates into guys earning money and spending it on their wives. 0.97

00:19:53.280 I think that's sometimes how guys express themselves in a relationship, as a breadwinner, as an earner.

00:19:59.440 I think that goes back to the dawn of time.

00:20:03.040 Leave the cave.

00:20:04.620 Go out into the dangerous world at 4.30 in the morning.

00:20:09.420 Hunt a beast.

00:20:11.000 Kill the beast. 0.94

00:20:12.220 Drag it back to the cave for your wife and kids to eat, and they've been at home gathering or making the cave nice. 0.50

00:20:19.000 I think that's how a lot of guys show love.

00:20:21.600 In 2020, it's go out there and make money and bring it back to the cave for your wife and kids.

00:20:27.120 I think it's the same thing, the same instincts, the same way of expressing yourself.

00:20:31.560 I truly think the tearing down is a woman-against-woman thing, and I think that's what we've been watching here on this show, that Today Show in Australia, and I think it's an anti-feminine thing.

00:20:44.820 Brooke is much more feminine than jealous Alison Langford is. 1.00

00:20:48.260 Brooke's husband, we heard briefly in this clip that he's into mixed martial arts, sounds like he's a bit more masculine than that tubby guy calling him lazy.

00:20:57.300 This segment is a war against women being feminine and a war against men being masculine. 0.99

00:21:05.740 It's proof of how awful many journalists are.

00:21:08.900 This whole segment was an attack on a private family, a family that seems to have it together.

00:21:16.020 But there was about three seconds of unvarnished truth in this video.

00:21:20.580 Listen to this.

00:21:21.280 Yeah, you're making the rest of us look bad.

00:21:23.400 Yeah, no, they're not actually making you look bad.

00:21:28.280 You're making you look bad.

00:21:31.240 Stay with us for more.

00:21:32.320 Stay with us for more.

00:21:43.980 Hey! 0.99

00:21:44.700 Digitist lives are under attack!

00:21:46.720 What do we do?

00:21:47.440 Stay with us right there! 0.90

00:21:48.840 Digitist lives are under attack!

00:21:50.840 What do we do?

00:21:51.600 Stay with us right there! 0.90

00:21:53.320 Here we are.

00:21:54.560 Here we are.

00:21:55.260 Well, those are scenes from protests across Canada.

00:22:24.700 In recent days, rail lines have been blockaded and shut down.

00:22:29.660 Commercial rail freight, as well as passenger service via rail, especially in and around Toronto and Ottawa.

00:22:37.100 I see that protests have blocked legislators from entering or leaving the British Columbia legislature in Victoria, B.C.

00:22:46.980 They even blocked the handicapped door.

00:22:51.540 Reporters, for the first time I've ever seen, were miffed by an environmental protest.

00:22:58.320 Normally, reporters cheerlead them.

00:23:00.720 But some reporters in Victoria were jostled and otherwise inconvenienced.

00:23:06.300 Don't those protesters know?

00:23:07.820 Those are their allies.

00:23:08.940 Some reporters actually started asking difficult questions like,

00:23:14.720 Why are you here?

00:23:16.460 And what are you protesting?

00:23:18.680 Of course, the protesters didn't know.

00:23:21.180 They just knew it was time to get out and make a fuss.

00:23:24.220 Well, what is the truth behind the coastal gas link pipeline that would sue attend First Nations and other oil and gas projects in Canada?

00:23:35.080 Joining us now via Skype from Fort McMurray is our friend Robby Bicard.

00:23:39.720 Robby, great to see you again.

00:23:41.180 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:23:42.980 Thanks for having me.

00:23:44.000 It's a pleasure.

00:23:45.340 You go way back in the advocacy of oil and gas.

00:23:50.220 You're Aboriginal yourself.

00:23:52.120 Of course, you're in the heart of oil and gas country.

00:23:54.260 Tell me a little bit about your efforts.

00:23:56.360 You started a pro-oil advocacy group.

00:23:59.200 You're like a one-man army, but you got a lot of allies.

00:24:02.480 Refresh our viewers' memories about that.

00:24:04.460 So, I've been doing, I guess, oil, I guess, I'm going to call it changes in natural resource activism now for almost five years.

00:24:13.780 And it started when I was running the I Love Oil Sands campaign, and then I started Oil Sands Strong.

00:24:20.200 And actually, I recently just got back from Prince George, B.C.

00:24:27.200 And I'm kind of surprised because the reception in B.C. when I was there was complete opposite.

00:24:33.260 Every single Indigenous person I spoke to was 100% in support of the Coastal GasLink Project.

00:24:43.360 I mean, I met with Chief Crystal Smith.

00:24:46.680 I interviewed her.

00:24:48.380 I did a ton of stuff.

00:24:49.580 So, I'm not surprised by this, but I'm a little caught off guard at the sheer willingness to break the law

00:24:59.220 that these people are willing to do to stop any project from happening.

00:25:06.280 And it doesn't matter what the rules are or what the laws are.

00:25:10.920 The people that are on our side, you know, that want, you know, pipelines and support LNG going to make the world a greener place,

00:25:19.920 particularly in China and India, where they're going to be changing from certain types of coal to natural gas.

00:25:26.660 You'd think they'd be thrilled about this.

00:25:29.400 It doesn't matter what—if we lose a battle on our side, well, we wait and we fight another day.

00:25:38.360 We protest, but we do it peacefully.

00:25:40.620 We've never broke the law that I can think of anyone on our side.

00:25:44.220 But the other side, the ones that they don't care, is if they can stop it or prolong it or whatever,

00:25:50.840 they're going to do whatever they can to destroy our economy.

00:25:54.180 And I don't even know what's motivating them anymore, because the vast majority of Indigenous people want these projects.

00:26:02.020 I mean, all of them.

00:26:03.420 So, I'm blown away but not surprised.

00:26:06.660 Well, I know what you're saying is true, because I've followed the Coastal GasLink case in the courts.

00:26:12.640 And every single band, and I refer to Indian bands, those are the legal entities by which First Nations people politically express themselves.

00:26:24.860 Every one of those democratically elected bands are in favor of this pipeline project.

00:26:30.460 Not most of them, all of them.

00:26:32.900 So, when you said 100%, you are being scientifically accurate.

00:26:36.620 Some of them even had referendums amongst their band members.

00:26:40.460 The Wet'suwet'en First Nations are completely in favor of this pipeline. 1.00

00:26:46.780 The protesters, our reporter Kian Bexte discovered there are some honorary traditional hereditary chiefs against it,

00:26:56.300 but none of the democratic politicians of the community.

00:27:00.160 And the group that's opposed to it, it's not actually an Indian band.

00:27:03.980 It's a corporation that gets funding from Tides.

00:27:08.940 Like, it's not even an Indian band that's blocking the pipeline.

00:27:12.880 But if you read the CBC, you would think what you said is 100% the opposite of the truth.

00:27:19.080 If you read the CBC and left-wing papers, all you would think is every single Wet'suwet'en First Nation Indian is against this project.

00:27:28.880 But as you said, it's the opposite.

00:27:30.700 Well, I'm learning that there—and we've known this for a long time—we know that there's this force that they will do whatever it takes.

00:27:42.560 And when it's convenient to them, they will claim that it has to do with Indigenous rights. 0.72

00:27:47.660 But the truth of the matter is, when the Indigenous groups, bands, etc., don't support their narrative, they don't care.

00:27:55.080 They don't care about anything about Indigenous at all.

00:27:57.860 Their bigger mission is to destroy our energy industry.

00:28:03.480 And I think that their true colors are coming out.

00:28:07.800 Everyone is starting to realize that.

00:28:09.300 People are sick of this.

00:28:10.240 People know that these projects are essential for, one, our sovereignty, our economy, and our future.

00:28:15.780 And all of every—I mean, you're right, it's practically 100%.

00:28:21.260 Even in Fort McMurray, even with Chief Alan Adam and his flip-flopping, he's doing again, he still supports the tech project.

00:28:28.980 The bottom line is, is that everyone—we need this project.

00:28:35.340 All Indigenous groups, organizations, etc. support the project.

00:28:39.720 So I guess as Canadians, we have to ask ourselves a question.

00:28:43.660 How much more are we going to take?

00:28:46.200 I mean, they are cutting bridges.

00:28:47.960 They are stopping our elected officials from doing their jobs.

00:28:51.720 They're impeding on our right to live our lives in a democratically elected society.

00:28:58.180 And they get away with so much more.

00:29:00.800 And, candidly, they're terrorists now.

00:29:03.740 I mean, if they're cutting bridges and they're—it's a form of terrorism, and it needs to be treated as such.

00:29:11.240 If it's not, and we continue to pacify and give in to this, you know, I don't know if we have Stockholm Syndrome or whatever,

00:29:22.860 but if we continue to do it, then we are going to destroy ourselves as a country.

00:29:27.640 We've gone through the courts.

00:29:29.100 These projects have gone through vast regulations and review after review after review.

00:29:35.240 And we have—I mean, we have accepted every decision and moved forward every time.

00:29:40.560 They aren't doing the same.

00:29:42.120 And now, I mean, even, you know, Premier Horgan, I mean, he's getting fed up, too.

00:29:46.600 Like, I mean, he said, you know what?

00:29:48.620 The Trans Mountain Pipeline's a done deal.

00:29:50.180 I did everything in my toolbox.

00:29:51.420 There's no more tools.

00:29:52.180 I got a deal.

00:29:53.100 At least he's a big enough man.

00:29:54.680 I totally disagreed with everything he's done to that pipeline.

00:29:57.440 But at least he's a big enough man to admit that the law is the law.

00:30:01.740 If Canadians—it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:30:04.440 If we don't accept the rule of law, then why are we even talking about being a country?

00:30:09.840 I mean, it's embarrassing.

00:30:11.560 This should not be happening.

00:30:13.560 And we need investment.

00:30:15.700 Any type of project, no matter what it is, we need investment.

00:30:19.800 And if this is what the world looks at and says, you know, why would we invest in Canada?

00:30:23.480 Because they can't even—they can't even govern, and they can't even get their people to accept the rule of law,

00:30:29.300 then I don't know what we're going to do.

00:30:30.720 Yeah.

00:30:31.280 You know, Justin Trudeau is strategically located in Africa right now.

00:30:36.000 And he says he hopes that the RCMP and the blockers of the train can negotiate their differences.

00:30:46.100 Well, one side is the law.

00:30:47.960 The other side is the criminals.

00:30:49.260 That's like saying, oh, there's a bank robbery going on.

00:30:52.860 I hope the bank tellers and the robbers can find a compromise.

00:30:56.500 There's—no, no, no.

00:30:57.360 If you oppose the pipelines, fine.

00:30:59.840 But you can't block a train.

00:31:03.440 Robbie, you've said the word they a few times.

00:31:05.760 They're blocking.

00:31:06.440 They, they, they.

00:31:07.700 When Kian Bexty went up to the Coastal GasLink encampment,

00:31:13.820 we managed to identify a number of faces we saw up there.

00:31:18.500 Most of them are not from British Columbia.

00:31:22.000 Most of them are not Aboriginal. 0.96

00:31:24.220 So when we say these protesters—like the protesters in Victoria.

00:31:27.780 The protesters in Ontario, some of them are Aboriginal.

00:31:32.740 Almost none of them are Wet'suwet'en First Nation.

00:31:35.840 Most of them are just environmental activists, many of whom are on the tide's payroll.

00:31:40.300 So it's—I think we're afraid of saying what you've said.

00:31:43.680 These are eco-terrorists.

00:31:45.080 They're not even Aboriginal, but they're, they're renting out. 1.00

00:31:48.400 It's like they're, they're appropriating the cultural sensitivities that we feel about Aboriginal folks, 0.96

00:31:55.720 and we want to be respectful.

00:31:56.980 These are impersonators saying, I speak for the First Nations.

00:32:01.700 No, they're white liberal activists from Toronto and Vancouver.

00:32:04.000 Well, you know, when I was in Halifax, and when we had our little Bring Back the Energies Pipeline rally,

00:32:14.300 and you guys covered it, and I had that big puppet behind my head, I thought about that.

00:32:18.600 I mean, I was too busy emceeing, but I really thought, like, I really like to take 10 of these people in the crowd

00:32:24.700 that are holding these signs and yelling and really hyper-focus on them, find out their names, find out who they are.

00:32:31.760 Because, candidly, I felt the same thing, because, like, who are these people?

00:32:35.620 Why are they there?

00:32:36.540 What motivates them?

00:32:37.720 And I think they just, they find out there's a protest, they get their, okay, we're going to be protesting this,

00:32:43.440 they get paid, whatever, and they go.

00:32:45.380 So, I think, you know, in Vancouver, a lot of them, they're, I don't know, they're just, they're kind of on speed dial.

00:32:53.720 It doesn't matter what it is.

00:32:55.260 It gives them a chance to get a little bit of cash, and then they go.

00:32:58.700 I know when they had Camp Cloud, they were getting a lot of the people from Hastings would come out and hang out there,

00:33:05.920 and then they're all back on Hastings.

00:33:07.400 So, it's like, I don't think there's a real legitimate, the people that are directly affected,

00:33:14.260 even if they didn't approve the project, I think they've accepted the process, and they've moved on,

00:33:20.000 and they, like, okay, like, the amount, with this coastal gas leak project, like, when I was in Prince George,

00:33:27.600 the amount of pride, I've never seen this type of pride before, not even here in Fort McMurray.

00:33:32.680 Because Fort McMurray, arguably, like, with our, the relationships between industry and the indigenous communities,

00:33:38.660 I mean, it's the best in the world.

00:33:40.720 I mean, there's, I mean, the rest of the world should, for economic reconciliation,

00:33:44.240 they should look at the Fort McMurray on how to develop good relations.

00:33:48.640 But they were so, like, they were almost in tears.

00:33:51.360 They were thrilled to have a future and a job.

00:33:54.540 And these are, like, I was emotionally, and it takes a lot for me to be emotionally affected anymore,

00:33:59.820 and I was emotionally impacted when I met with, you know, with Chief Crystal,

00:34:05.480 and I got to interview her, and I got to see.

00:34:09.100 So I think the bigger thing, too, is whatever company that is that's trying to stop this,

00:34:14.120 they are destroying the lives of indigenous people. 1.00

00:34:17.540 They're destroying their hope and their future, and they're scaring them.

00:34:21.700 And it's a different form of colonialism.

00:34:25.680 And it's like, these projects are going to make the world a better place.

00:34:30.860 They are going to make life for indigenous people better.

00:34:34.540 It's going to get them things they've only dreamed of, education.

00:34:39.440 Like, I mean, this project is so amazingly good for everyone involved.

00:34:44.200 And these eco-terrorists, I mean, we can't tolerate this anymore.

00:34:49.380 If we give in and say, you know what, okay, please stop standing in front of the train.

00:34:52.960 We'll do this, this, and this.

00:34:54.080 I mean, it's not good.

00:34:57.140 We cannot allow this to happen.

00:34:58.440 And regular citizens have to stand up and not allow this to happen.

00:35:02.420 Because this has gone on too long.

00:35:04.960 Rabbi, I got to tell you that if you were to ask someone who consumes only the mainstream media

00:35:09.260 about the position of indigenous people, they would tell you the indigenous people are against this

00:35:14.840 because they don't know the facts you're saying,

00:35:17.420 that the chiefs and the bands most affected are the ones who want it the most.

00:35:21.700 I read the court ruling over Christmas that gave an injunction against this encampment.

00:35:28.680 It was full of statements by local indigenous community leaders, business leaders,

00:35:34.040 saying, please kick these blockaders out. 1.00

00:35:37.360 The people who were pleading to the court in affidavits were local band members,

00:35:42.140 in some cases, band counselors.

00:35:44.380 It's so frustrating to me.

00:35:45.660 Let me ask you this.

00:35:47.600 When you start delaying via rail trains between Ottawa and Toronto,

00:35:52.940 when you start irritating journalists in Victoria,

00:35:57.280 you're bothering a different kind of people than just a local blockade.

00:36:02.700 You're bothering the fancy people now in the big cities that voted for Justin Trudeau or whatever.

00:36:09.820 What do you think is going to happen?

00:36:11.840 Do you think that's going to cause the Justin Trudeaus and the John Horgans of the world to say,

00:36:16.680 fine, we won't proceed?

00:36:19.000 Or do you think it's going to irritate the allies and the environmentalists

00:36:22.560 and harden their hearts and say, we're going to crack down on your eco-terrorism?

00:36:27.040 Like, the bad guys are taking a high-risk strategy with this national lockdown.

00:36:33.320 Do you think it'll pay off for them big time?

00:36:35.520 Or do you think it'll backfire?

00:36:38.060 I think that depends.

00:36:39.960 And it doesn't depend on the mainstream media.

00:36:43.520 It doesn't even depend on Justin Trudeau.

00:36:45.580 It depends on, I guess, people on our side,

00:36:48.800 the activists that have been fighting for pipelines.

00:36:51.000 If we are going to step up and we are going to make sure the message of the,

00:36:57.560 we'll say 99% of the indigenous peoples who support these projects,

00:37:04.780 let their voice be heard.

00:37:06.600 If we balance the message.

00:37:09.160 And that's, I mean, it's harder to do.

00:37:11.100 Like, I mean, right now I'm thinking of hopping a plane.

00:37:13.240 I don't know which direction to go.

00:37:14.600 Like you said, I'm a one-man army.

00:37:16.080 And, but I'd like, I know that if I go,

00:37:19.320 I might make a bit of a difference to tell the other side of the story.

00:37:22.960 But I have a business and a job and things I'm responsible for.

00:37:27.660 It's hard because the people that want these projects generally are hardworking,

00:37:33.200 good-hearted people that just want to earn a good living,

00:37:37.140 you know, save money for the future and support their families.

00:37:40.880 However, I think we're at a critical point.

00:37:43.580 And I think enough is enough.

00:37:47.240 So now is an opportunity for us, like, to stand up to these bullies,

00:37:52.660 these eco-terrorists, these criminals, 0.98

00:37:55.800 and make sure that they can't get away with this.

00:38:00.240 We have to, something has to shift.

00:38:02.320 And this mentality that you can throw a fit to get what you want,

00:38:06.780 and if you don't get what you want, you throw a bigger fit,

00:38:09.480 that has to change, and it shouldn't be accepted in our country at all.

00:38:16.640 Well, Robbie, we support you.

00:38:18.420 And you say you did some video interviews.

00:38:21.240 When those are ready, let us know.

00:38:23.120 We'd love to link to them on our website or email them around.

00:38:26.680 And if you do any projects that are interesting,

00:38:29.360 like if you go traveling somewhere, let us know,

00:38:31.660 because we'd love to give you publicity.

00:38:35.620 We'd love to film what you're doing.

00:38:38.540 I've known you for years.

00:38:39.880 You were kind enough to speak at a Rebel Live conference or two.

00:38:44.020 And this is crunch time.

00:38:46.940 I'm worried that these protests will cause Justin Trudeau

00:38:50.780 to throw his hands up in the air and say, oh, what can I do?

00:38:53.280 So if there's anything we can do to help you, let me know.

00:38:55.660 If anybody wants to help us out a little bit,

00:38:57.800 I have a ton of T-shirts for sale.

00:39:00.260 I know that our first order of T-shirts, we had a problem.

00:39:03.060 We've solved that.

00:39:03.780 But I've got these great keychains, and they're only $5,

00:39:07.160 and we mail them to you.

00:39:08.520 So they're – oh, I guess I'm going to show it up there.

00:39:11.360 They're cool.

00:39:13.040 That would be really helpful.

00:39:15.060 Thank you.

00:39:15.180 Oil and Gas Strong.

00:39:16.680 And Oil Sand Strong, of course, is your organization.

00:39:20.120 What's your website that we can order them from?

00:39:23.000 www.oilsandstrong.com.

00:39:26.840 Oilsandstrong.com.

00:39:28.340 All right, well, that's great.

00:39:29.420 I've got to get one of those because I have a bunch of keys,

00:39:32.860 and they're only $5.

00:39:33.940 I'm in.

00:39:34.820 Yes.

00:39:35.400 Thank you, my friend.

00:39:36.500 And keep up the fight.

00:39:37.280 If that helps you fuel your machine and it's good advertising on the keychain,

00:39:42.040 that's winning both ways.

00:39:44.540 Take care, my friend.

00:39:45.120 Keep up the fight.

00:39:46.500 Okay, thanks, Ezra.

00:39:47.240 Take care.

00:39:47.600 Okay, cheers.

00:39:48.660 Well, that's our friend, Rodney Picard.

00:39:50.200 I'm going to get a keychain.

00:39:51.580 All right, stay with us.

00:39:52.540 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:40:02.240 What do you think of the show today?

00:40:03.400 What do you think of that clip from Australian TV?

00:40:05.600 Look, everyone's family and relationships is their own business,

00:40:09.600 and we don't know what anyone's life is like.

00:40:11.460 Even people who tell us their life is great, it might be terrible.

00:40:14.720 They tell us their life is terrible, maybe it's great.

00:40:16.420 I don't know, but I thought it was really weird that a national TV show

00:40:20.160 would just pluck a woman from obscurity and critique her life. 0.64

00:40:24.520 Frankly, Brooke's life seems pretty together.

00:40:28.060 I mean, maybe she's just putting her best foot forward for Facebook

00:40:30.760 like a lot of people do, but I tell you,

00:40:33.380 listening to the wailing accusations and criticisms of her

00:40:38.640 from that Australian TV show,

00:40:40.920 I know who seemed to be the happy ones and who seemed to be the unhappy ones.

00:40:44.800 I don't know, I just felt like the media was showing its true colors.

00:40:50.940 I don't think I learned that much about Brooke,

00:40:53.200 but I sure learned a lot about those loser Australian journalists. 0.62

00:40:56.620 Anyways, that's the show for today.

00:40:58.380 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:41:01.540 to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:41:14.800 Thank you.

00:41:18.840 Bye.

00:41:20.940 Bye.

00:41:23.140 Bye.

00:41:24.060 Bye.

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00:41:37.580 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - February 14, 2020

Daytime talk show bullies attack a private citizen for being a good wife and mother

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