Do you actually know who Dr. Anthony Fauci is？
Summary
Dr. Anthony Fauci is a public health guru in the United States, and he's been around a long time. But he's also been accused of lying to the public, and now he's being sued for lying to them.
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Hello, my friends. I'm going to take you through a few of those emails that were released from
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Anthony Fauci. He's the public health guru in the United States. Very curious, and especially
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about this concept called gain of function. Have you ever heard that phrase before? It's very new
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to me. It means to weaponize viruses on purpose. And I want to talk about that and use these
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emails as a backdrop for that. Before I do, let me invite you to become a subscriber to
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Tonight, do you actually know who Anthony Fauci is? I wonder if any of us do. It's June 2nd,
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and this is the Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon
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consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I
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have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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You know who Dr. Anthony Fauci is, right? Well, you can't really avoid him. A year and a half ago,
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he was an obscure bureaucrat like most of the medical, industrial complex, the public health
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side of things. But he became famous because of the virus. He would host press conferences
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alongside Donald Trump, sometimes even spar with Trump. He was so friendly, though. He had a friendly
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accent, a little bit of a garden gnome. He became a real media hound, so the press loved him, especially
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when he disagreed with Trump. Here he is on the cover of InStyle magazine. Oh, he's a celebrity,
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really. In fact, he just rolled out a new book about himself and the wonderful year he's had,
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although surprisingly today, it looks like Amazon took that book down. I wonder why he's being
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canceled. That's strange. To me, Anthony Fauci is perfectly summed up in this. When the celebrity
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was asked to throw a pitch, it was probably one of the worst pitches ever thrown, but he wore his mask
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until he thought the cameras weren't looking. That's how so many politicians do it, and Fauci is
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nothing but a politician. He was doing five media hits a day, and he managed to survive the transition
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from Donald Trump to Joe Biden so far. But like Canada's version of Anthony Fauci, Teresa Tam,
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Fauci lied. Here's an example of him changing his viewpoint with the political winds.
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Stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that it evolved in nature and then jumped species.
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One of the issues of saying, could that virus that was in, first of all, if you accept the premise,
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which is very strongly supported by scientific evidence, that it was not deliberately mutated
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and deliberately changed. And you say, if it was in the wild and evolving, the likelihood it jumped
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species naturally, someone will say, well, maybe somebody took it from the wild, put it in the lab,
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and then it escaped from the lab. But that means it was in the wild to begin with.
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There's a lot of cloudiness around the origins of COVID-19 still. So I wanted to ask,
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are you still confident that it developed naturally? Oh, I'm not convinced about that. I
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think that we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we find out to the best of
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our ability, exactly what happened. Now, Teresa Tam does that too. She uses the phrase,
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the science is evolving. I think Fauci says that too, from time to time, but he's more candid other
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times. He says, yeah, I lied. I lied because I want to control people. Listen to this.
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Okay. At the time, three things were going on. We were told very clearly at the coronavirus task
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force, including by the surgeon general, who's a good person all the way, that there was a clear
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shortage of masks. And if we went around recommending masks, the healthcare providers who were putting
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themselves in harm's way every single day would not have enough. Point number one. Point number two,
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there was no evidence at the time that masks outside of the setting of the hospital worked.
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There were no data to show that. Number three, we did not know that at least 50% of the infections
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were being spread asymptomatically, namely by people that had no symptoms. That's the reason why at that
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time we, I and others made that statement. That's him saying he lied to control you because you can't
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handle the truth. Is that a good thing for a public health Caesar to do? Well, now hundreds of emails
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from his government position have been released under American freedom of information laws. And over the
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last, I don't know, 18 hours, the media has had a frenzy going through them. Now it's sort of a
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Rorschach test, an inkblot test. You know what those are. What does this inkblot look like? It really
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is about you, not the inkblot. So for example, here's the mainstream media. If you Google
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Fauci emails, you'll get dozens of stories like this. This is People magazine about what a celebrity
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he is. Here's People magazine. One of his emails was sending around a story that he was one of
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America's sexiest men. And he said, people are so nutty and Trump is so mean. Yeah, it's a Rorschach
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test. That's what the mainstream media focused on in these hundreds of emails. But is that really
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the most telling thing? I've been learning in recent days about a phrase I'd never heard before,
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gain of function. Gain of function. Have you ever heard those words before? It means weaponizing
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a virus, taking a naturally occurring virus and making it function differently by engineering it.
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Let me show you three videos in a row from, well, two of them, a recent one is older,
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of Dr. Anthony Fauci talking about gain of function. And the reason why gain of function,
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and it's a strange phrase, is important, is because there are two competing theories about
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where this virus came from. One was, it was from nature, and it made the leap from a bat to a person.
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Maybe someone was eating bat soup. The other theory is, no, no, this was engineered in a lab
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at the Wuhan Virology Institute. Well, one of the doctors, sorry, one of the senators in the U.S.
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senator, happens to be a doctor, Rand Paul. And here he is asking Anthony Fauci about gain of function
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research. And specifically, if Fauci's public health office in the United States was taking
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American tax dollars to give to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to have them do gain of function work,
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weaponizing virus work. I'm going to play four minutes of this clip, and I think it's very
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important. Dr. Rand Paul explains it pretty well. Take a look. Senator Paul.
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Dr. Fauci, we don't know whether the pandemic started in a lab in Wuhan or evolved naturally,
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but we should want to know. Three million people have died from this pandemic, and that should cause
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us to explore all possibilities. Instead, government authorities, self-interested in continuing gain
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of function research, say there's nothing to see here. Gain of function research, as you know,
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is juicing up naturally occurring animal viruses to infect humans. To arrive at the truth,
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the U.S. government should admit that the Wuhan Virology Institute was experimenting to enhance
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the coronavirus' ability to infect humans. Juicing up super viruses is not new. Scientists in the U.S.
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have long known how to mutate animal viruses to infect humans. For years, Dr. Ralph Barak, a virologist
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in the U.S., has been collaborating with Dr. Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Virology Institute, sharing his
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discoveries about how to create super viruses. This gain-of-function research has been funded by the
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NIH. The collaboration between the U.S. and the Wuhan Virology Institute continues. Doctors Barak and
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Shi worked together to insert bat virus spike protein into the backbone of the deadly SARS virus and then
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used this man-made super virus to infect human airway cells. Think about that for a moment. The SARS virus
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had a 15 percent mortality. We're fighting a pandemic that has about a one percent mortality. Can you
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imagine if a SARS virus that's been juiced up and had viral proteins added to it, to the spike protein,
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if that were released accidentally? Dr. Fauci, do you still support funding of the NIH funding of
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the lab in Wuhan? Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect
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that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund
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gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Do they fund Dr. Barak?
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We do not fund... Do you fund Dr. Barak's gain-of-function research? Dr. Barak does not
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doing gain-of-function research, and if it is, it's according to the guidelines, and it is being
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conducted in North Carolina, not in China. You don't think inserting a bat virus spike protein that he got
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from the Wuhan Institute into the SARS virus is gain-of-function? That is not... You would be in the
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minority because at least 200 scientists have signed a statement from the Cambridge Working Group
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saying that it is gain-of-function. Well, it is not, and if you look at the grant and you look at the
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progress reports, it is not gain-of-function, despite the fact that people tweet that.
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So do you still support sending money to the Wuhan Virology Institute? We do not send money now to the
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Wuhan Virology Institute. Do you support sending money? We did, under your tutelage. We were sending it
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through EcoHealth. It was a sub-agency and a sub-grant. Do you support the money from NIH that
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was going to the Wuhan Institute? Let me explain to you why that was done. The SARS-CoV-1
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originated in bats in China. It would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate
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the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been infected in China. Or perhaps it would be
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irresponsible to send it to the Chinese government that we may not be able to trust with this knowledge
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and with this incredibly dangerous viruses. Rand Paul is one of my favorite senators. He's just great.
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There's another senator with the name John Kennedy. And of course, don't be confused with the other
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candidates. This is John Kennedy. You'll detect immediately from his accent. He's from Louisiana.
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And he asks questions of Anthony Fauci. Do you actually trust the scientists at the Wuhan Institute
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of Virology? And the answer is incredible. Take a listen. Dr. Fauci, I believe you have testified
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that you didn't give any money to the Wuhan lab to conduct gain-of-function research. Is that right?
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That is correct. How do you know they didn't lie to you? Excuse me, sir? How do you know they didn't
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lie to you and use the money for gain-of-function research anyway? Well, we've seen the results of
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the experiments that were done and that were published and that the viruses that they studied
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are on public databases now. So none of that was gain-of-function. So how do you know they didn't
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do the research and not put it on their website? There's no way of guaranteeing that. But in our
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experience with grantees, including Chinese grantees, which we've had interactions with for a very
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long period of time, they're very competent, trustworthy scientists. I'm not talking about
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anything else in China. I'm talking about the scientists that you would expect that they would
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abide by the conditions of the grant, which they've done for the years that we've had interactions with.
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So you don't think the Chinese would lie to you? Well, when you say the Chinese, the Chinese are a
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rather broad group. I know the scientists that we've dealt with have been trustworthy.
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Mm-hmm. You think all the scientists have told the truth in terms of the origin of the Wuhan virus and
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not been influenced by the Communist Party of China, do you? I don't have enough insight into the
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Communist Party in China to know the interactions between them and the scientists, sir.
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Right. All right. I want to show you one more video about gain of function. You're probably saying,
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what's this got to do with the emails? I just want you to see this, the different answers that Anthony
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Fauci gives. Here he is saying, if you want to do research on viruses, you've got to go to where the
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action is. He says that. And the action is in Wuhan. Take a look at this.
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We had a big scare with SARS-CoV-1 back in 2002, 2003, where that particular virus unquestionably
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went from a bat to an intermediate host to start an epidemic and a pandemic that resulted in 8,000
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cases and close to 800 deaths. It would have been almost a dereliction of our duty if we didn't study
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this. And the only way you can study these things is you've got to go where the action is.
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So I often say somewhat tongue in cheek, you don't want to study bats in Fairfax County, Virginia,
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to find out what the animal-human interface is that might lead to a jumping of species.
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So we had a modest collaboration with very respectable Chinese scientists who are world experts on
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coronavirus. And we did that through a sub-grant from a larger grant to EcoHealth. The sub-grant was
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about $600,000 over a period of five years. So it was a modest amount. And the purpose of it
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was to study the animal-human interface to do surveillance and to determine if these bat viruses
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were even capable of transing infection to humans. That's pretty incredible. Even those three videos,
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he changes his story. Well, after the release of the emails, Rand Paul tweeted simply this. He told us,
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I'm just going to show you three emails. And I want to start with one from a virologist called
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Christian Anderson. And it was very early in the pandemic. It was February 1st, 2020. So like a week
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into the emergency. And this was a letter, it actually started with an article in the magazine
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Science called Mining Coronavirus Genomes for Clues to the Outbreak's Origin. So where did this virus
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come from? And Anthony Fauci wrote a letter to Christian Anderson saying, this just came out today.
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You may have seen it. If not, it is of interest to the current discussion. Best, Tony. Oh, really?
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Were they having a discussion about the origins of the virus? Well, yes, they certainly were.
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And this virologist, Christian Anderson, wrote back, hi, Tony. And I'm going to skip ahead.
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The unusual features of the virus make up a really small part of the genome. So one has to look really
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closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features potentially look engineered. Look
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engineered? Well, Fauci writes back to Anderson and says, thanks, Christian. Talk soon on the call.
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So they had a phone call about the fact that Science Magazine was saying the virus might look
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engineered. What did they say? Was it true? I don't know. It's not disclosed in the emails,
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was it? I want to take you to a second email. And this is an exchange between Anthony Fauci and Peter
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Daszak. He was the middleman that Rand Paul asked about sending American tax dollars to the Wuhan
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Institute of Virology purportedly or allegedly to do gain of function research. And I want to read a
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little bit from this email from Daszak to Fauci. The subject is, thank you for your public comments
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for COVID-19's origins. I just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and
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collaborators for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural
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origin for COVID-19 from a bat to human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of
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Virology. And then as you can see, an entire paragraph is deleted. Are you just a tiny bit
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curious of what's deleted? And then it says, from my perspective, your comments are brave. And coming
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from your trusted voice will help dispel the myths being spun around the virus's origins.
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And as you can see, the top of the email, Fauci writes back, Peter, many thanks for your kind
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note. Best regards. What was redacted? Was Dr. Senator Rand Paul right? Was America actually
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funding military research on the gain of function weaponization of these viruses? And then there's
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one more email I'd like to read to you. It's this one between George Gao. He's the head of China's
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version of the Centers for Disease Control. He's China's guy. And apparently he was on very friendly
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terms with Anthony Fauci. And Gao writes to Fauci, and Fauci writes back, very friendly,
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let's work together to get the virus out of the earth. Okay. And Fauci writes back, George,
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thanks for the note. I understand completely. No problem. We will get through this together. Best
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regards, Tony. Okay, so you've got the absolute boss for disease control in China writing you a personal
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note. And you don't have any questions for him. Where did it come from? Can we talk? You're not
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curious at all. And we're going to get through this together. We're on your side. Really? I don't think
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Fauci's even that deferential to American presidents. Now, look, a lot of this is not secret. I mean,
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those videos of him talking about gain of function, they weren't released just last night.
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But Fauci's been on our TV sets for almost a year and a half. Did you know about the fact that money
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was flowing from the U.S. government through Fauci, through this DASH Act to the Wuhan Institute of
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Virology? Did you know that Fauci said China is where all the action is if you want to study the
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weaponization of viruses? Did you know about that? Again, those weren't hidden. Did you know about the
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connection between Fauci as he was standing by Trump of Fauci's connections to China, both the lab
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itself and their public health industrial complex? Do you know who Anthony Fauci is actually working
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for? And every question I've just put about Fauci, could it not be put to Teresa Tam, Justin Trudeau,
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and Bill Gates too? I don't know why Fauci's book was kicked off Amazon today. Maybe there were too many
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stories that were just proved false by this release of emails. I don't know. Just a theory. Just speculation.
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I don't know what the truth is, but I don't trust Fauci, Tam, Biden, or Trudeau to tell us either.
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I'm just worried saying so will get me deleted from the internet. Stay with us for more.
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Well, as you know, last week we released our latest book, this one written by Coach Linda
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Blade and Barbara Kay. It's called Unsporting, How Trans Activism and Science Denial Are Destroying
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Sport. It's part of a trend of stories since transgenderism has really taken the world by storm
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in the last five years. And by world, I mean, I think the decadent West. I mean, whether it's
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Caitlyn Jenner or Jonathan Yaniv, a male to female transgender who has literally harassed so many
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immigrant women to Vancouver demanding that they wax his private parts and then taking them to the
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human rights tribunal when they won't touch him. So many crazy stories. And one of the themes is
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you're not allowed to talk about it. You're not allowed to dispute it. You're not even,
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in some cases, allowed to know about it. And that's the subject of our interview today because
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there is a case in British Columbia dealing with a father and his own born female daughter
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who has trans-zitioned to calling herself a boy. And we can't even tell you the name of
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the man. The name of the case is A, B, and C, D. That's all the courts will say. The father
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himself is not allowed to even call his daughter a daughter. And here's the crazy part. The rest of
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us have been banned from talking about it under pain of contempt of court. Now, this just isn't
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right. We believe in open courts in a free country. I think other journalists might have been miffed by
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it, but only Rebel News did something about it. Our reporter on the ground, Drea Humphrey, joins us now.
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Well, coming home from the court there, Drea, we challenged the nature of the publication bans. There
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were many of them. Can you explain for our viewers a little bit of the background? First of all, did I
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get my facts right when I explained A, B, C, D, and what was going on there? Yeah. The only thing I would
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add is that I believe the order that did prohibit him from, you know, misgendering his own child and
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referring to his own child as a daughter is no longer an order that's in stand date. Got it. So
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that was an order, but you, am I correct? So, I mean, to me, that's just nutty, nutty, shows how crazy
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things are. Now we went to court, we hired a lawyer in Vancouver because we were just trying to talk
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about this and we couldn't even find out about the publication bans. The publication bans themselves
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were secret. Isn't that crazy? They were secret. There was way too many of them. You know, it was
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quite a tangled mess. You have this case that is of international interest. Everybody and their dog
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is reporting the facts across, you know, whether it be in the U.S. all the way to Japan, then you have
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me right here, boots on the ground, getting the last interview with the father just before he's
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arrested in courts. And I have to tiptoe and walk on eggshells on how much of the other side I can even
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give to you guys. Otherwise, I'm going to end up, I could end up in bars, behind bars myself.
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So that was the reality of just how stringent these secret bans have made it to be able to
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bring you guys the other side of the story. So we had to do something about it, even though,
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as you mentioned, with the Yaniv case and other reports that I've done, it seems like these bans
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conveniently get used in cases where transgender people, in this case, a child's transitioning without
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the consent of their parent. Whenever there's activist lawyers involved and things like that,
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these bans tend to get used and it's harder to get the story out for sure.
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Yeah. Now, other reporters have talked about this case. I think in other cases, media companies much
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bigger than ours, much richer than ours, in many cases owned by billion-dollar companies or getting
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huge payouts by the Trudeau government, they go to court to fight publication bans when it's something
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that their liberal worldview demands. We were the only media company in all Vancouver, and there's a
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lot of media out there. There's radio, there's TV, there's newspapers, there's magazines, there's
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websites. Vancouver is a very healthy media. Is it true that we were the only news outlet that went to
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court and said, Your Honor, this doesn't make sense. You've got to figure this out. You've got to clear
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this up. You've got to make sense of this. You can't have secret publication bans. Were we the only
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people in court asking for this? Absolutely. And you might be shocked to hear it, but Justice
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Taman actually thanked us for bringing this matter to the court. So that's what Rebel News did on behalf
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of all media, the media that you mentioned that, you know, gets funded, or I should say funds from
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the government didn't take the stand, but we did. So you're saying the judge who heard our request
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actually thanked us for bringing, he wasn't aware, this was a judge, I presume, who wasn't aware of all
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the problems? Is that what you're saying? No, Justice Taman has been involved, you know, heavily involved
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in the railings, and I have seen him be asked by CD's former counsel to make things more understandable for
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the media. So I don't think it's that he's necessarily was unaware of this. But he was basically
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thanking us for going ahead and trying to do something about it, because it was problematic.
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And he did acknowledge how important this issue was for both the public, as well as for the media.
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Well, that's great. You know what, there's certain kinds of praise I don't want from the government.
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I don't want the government saying, you're a good boy, you're asking the kind of questions I like to hear.
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Like, I don't want to be a pet of the government. I don't want the government to give us money.
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But if there's a judge who says, there was a problem here, you brought it to my attention,
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your lawyer had some suggestions, and we fixed it, and now there's more freedom of the press,
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That's one of the few kinds of praise that I will accept from a judge, and I'm glad he said it.
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I understand also that the government of British Columbia was represented in this court battle
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by the attorney general, and that they filed a brief that sort of said the same thing,
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that they thought there was a mess here. And I understand that they filed a brief saying that
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they agreed with us. We had to fix the problem. Again, I would not expect a new Democrat government
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in B.C. to like Rebel News, but they had to admit there was a problem here, too. Did I get that right?
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Absolutely. There was so much back and forth in this case. Like I said, it was so tangled.
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There was many negotiations. And the AG took no position on our application to vary the publication bans.
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But the AG did, in fact, acknowledge that there is an issue here and stated that to the courts as well.
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And in fact, the child's lawyer, A.B., also acknowledged how important this was, which is just, I mean, this is insane, really.
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Yeah. Now, just to be clear, and people can see we're still using A, B, C, D.
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It is a tradition in court, and I think you can see there's some wisdom to it, that when there's a minor child involved
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to protect the identity of the child, that child is often referred to by their initials.
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So that has not been varied. That part of the rule has not been changed.
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But it's like it was the double secret, the publication ban, but you're not even allowed to know what the publication ban is.
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It's like a double, triple, top secret. I mean, it just made no sense.
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And our lawyer had trouble even finding out what the truth was, let alone how could a regular journalist or a regular citizen.
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I think this is a good first step. I don't think the problem is fixed yet.
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I think that especially when it comes to trans activists, they work the system to reduce scrutiny on what they're doing,
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I think there's a real, and I see that, by the way, with vaccines, that the government is saying to children,
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I think that we're going to have more problems like this, where the government and courts and politicians
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are going to try and stop scrutiny of what they're doing with kids.
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But I'm really proud, Drea, that you were the only journalist and Rebel was the only company fighting against just,
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I mean, we didn't have a total victory, but we did have a win, and even the judge said we did a good job.
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Yeah, and, you know, maybe this is going to set a huge precedent for the cases that you just mentioned in the future.
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Well, Drea, we're so proud of the work you're doing, and I think this is a moment where Rebel News can hold our head high
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and look at all the other media and say, you did not defend freedom of the press.
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We did it for our own viewers, but also for the public good.
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I'm proud of what you did, and I'm very grateful to our lawyer.
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Out there, before you go, what's the website people can go to
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to get all your reports on this publication ban?
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We didn't quite meet our donor goal there, so if you could go and help us out to recoup.
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Some of these costs, like I said, the negotiations went on more than we anticipated,
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and these bans were buried, essentially, and it cost a lot to have our lawyer, Kyle Bienvenu, get them out.
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I remember when I was talking to Kyle, and he said, this is an uphill battle you're probably going to lose.
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I mean, that's basically what he said right at the beginning.
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So that's LetUsReport.com, and we did this for our viewers.
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That's why we did it, but the benefit redounds to all Canadians and all media,
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Go to LetUsReport.com to get all the details on this story.
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On the show last night, Dan writes, if the vaccines work,
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then why do these people still have to wear masks and social distance?
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I mean, I saw that there are nine new pharmaceutical billionaires because of the pandemic.
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But it's interesting how now the deaths are plunging and cases are plunging and things
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The Canadian test for, are you free, isn't, is anyone sick?
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And who's making these decisions and what are their deals?
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I wonder if we'll ever get the kind of transparency for the emails from Canada's health bosses the
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Kimberly writes, frontline essential workers get a break from TikTok videos to go watch hockey.
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Yeah, listen, I appreciate people working in hospitals.
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I also appreciate people working at grocery stores and any other place that stayed open
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I also know that there was no mass death from grocery store workers.
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And if they got the virus, they most likely recover from it.
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This virus is deadly to people over 80 with pre-existing comorbidities.
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That's a fancy way of saying they were very sick to begin with.
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It simply isn't a risk for young, healthy people, or at least not any more risky than the annual flu.
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DJ writes, there's no more left to right, conservative liberal.
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Now there is only political elites versus the rest of us.
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I think it's partly true because the conservative parties of Canada have just stopped being conservative.
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The conservative governments have been just as bad as the liberal governments.
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And the conservative opposition has been too timid to oppose.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us, to you at home, good night.