Rebel News Podcast - Doug Ford repeals Ontario’s hated Green Energy Act

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Doug Ford keeps a promise by repealing Ontario's hated Green Energy Act.

00:00:05.280 I confess, I thought I'd never live to see the day.

00:00:08.180 It's December 7th and this is the Ezra LeBant Show.

00:00:16.580 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:20.380 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:24.080 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:27.080 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:37.620 You know Gerald Butts, that's him in a private plane flying with Dalton McGinty, who was back then the Premier of Ontario.

00:00:45.960 Butts was his right-hand man.

00:00:48.660 And now Butts is the right-hand man to Justin Trudeau.

00:00:52.680 I've only met Gerald Butts a few times very quickly.

00:00:55.280 The first time, no surprise, was actually in an airport.

00:00:58.960 He came up and introduced himself and gave me his business card.

00:01:02.200 That's what he does.

00:01:03.220 He flies a lot, non-stop, like all the best environmentalists do.

00:01:08.000 Sometimes on private jets, sometimes commercial aircraft.

00:01:11.320 And he networks the business card.

00:01:13.820 He has networks in academia, especially his alma mater, McGill, where he's treated as a hero.

00:01:19.680 He was on their board for a while at the university.

00:01:22.620 I gave a speech at McGill once, and he made sure he was there to listen to what I said and see who was in the crowd.

00:01:29.700 He does that.

00:01:31.820 He's linked in globally, too, to all the big environmentalist extremists.

00:01:36.040 After he left Dalton McGinty's office, he became president of the World Wildlife Foundation of Canada, part of this program here.

00:01:42.700 He was part of the Tar Sands Campaign, funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund out of New York, attacking Alberta's oil sands.

00:01:52.820 You can see that, really, for 10 years now.

00:01:55.080 Butts has been waging war against the oil sands and pipelines.

00:01:57.860 Anyone who actually thinks he wants pipelines built should give their head a shake.

00:02:01.460 Look at this.

00:02:02.000 This was the map.

00:02:02.760 That was the map we showed there.

00:02:04.080 Blocking oil and gas is literally why he got into politics in the first place.

00:02:07.780 Do I have to play this clip again for you?

00:02:10.420 Do you really think this guy would ever allow any pipeline, including the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion, to be built?

00:02:18.040 Remember this?

00:02:18.960 We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.

00:02:27.480 So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for a pipeline.

00:02:33.080 Because the real alternative is not an alternative route.

00:02:38.120 It's an alternative economy.

00:02:41.340 I'll show that once a week forever.

00:02:43.900 Yeah, he bought the existing Trans Mountain Pipeline positively to ensure that the expansion will never be built.

00:02:52.540 And who knows, maybe it never will be.

00:02:54.820 That's how it feels sometimes.

00:02:56.180 If you recall on that Rockefeller Brothers map, that pipeline map, do you see it says McKenzie Valley Natural Gas Pipeline?

00:03:03.840 That was proposed in the 70s.

00:03:06.180 It was delayed for a hundred reasons.

00:03:08.640 Because of aboriginal land claims.

00:03:10.540 Because of environmental reasons.

00:03:12.420 It finally got the green light to proceed.

00:03:14.780 In fact, aboriginal groups have a huge stake in the project.

00:03:18.440 But guess what?

00:03:18.940 It was delayed so long that technology called fracking was developed in the meantime and perfected and combined with horizontal drilling and the shale discoveries in the United States.

00:03:29.720 So the North American price for natural gas fell by what?

00:03:33.700 Eighty percent?

00:03:34.560 Ninety percent?

00:03:36.220 So the McKenzie Valley Pipeline is no longer economically feasible.

00:03:40.000 It was delayed long enough to kill it.

00:03:43.040 I flew up to Inovic a few years back to meet a lot of these pro-development aboriginal folks, Inuit, Métis, Indians.

00:03:50.520 And they all wanted the oil and gas.

00:03:52.580 Now they want it.

00:03:54.200 And they all spoke poorly of Greenpeace now.

00:03:57.400 And for good reason.

00:03:58.160 Greenpeace first stopped the aboriginal fur trade, didn't they?

00:04:01.580 And then they stopped forestry, which employed a lot of aboriginal folks.

00:04:04.680 And now they're stopping oil and gas.

00:04:06.500 You'd be forgiven for thinking Greenpeace hates aboriginals, which is a line I heard more than once when I was up in Inovic.

00:04:12.440 But my point is this.

00:04:14.220 Everyone's on side now up there for this big natural gas pipeline, except it's never going to happen.

00:04:20.680 The moment has passed.

00:04:21.380 I don't think anyone is going to pour billions of dollars into the project, given how cheap U.S. fracked gas is.

00:04:27.960 And seriously, who would ever build a pipeline in Canada with Trudeau and Buston charging at all?

00:04:32.080 Who would want to go through that, right?

00:04:34.340 They'll be doing gender and trans.

00:04:36.840 By the time they build that pipeline, they'll have to do a transgender analysis. 1.00

00:04:40.060 Now, that could be the case with all of Canada's pipelines when you think about it.

00:04:45.820 You know, a U.S. judge has delayed the Keystone XL pipeline that Donald Trump had revived.

00:04:50.760 But I'm not sure if Americans even care anymore.

00:04:53.720 I showed you this the other day.

00:04:54.760 U.S. oil production is up 20% in the past few years.

00:04:57.160 And look at this new headline.

00:04:58.120 This is just yesterday.

00:04:59.260 Just yesterday from Bloomberg.

00:05:00.900 Bloomberg, the U.S. just became a net oil exporter for the first time in 75 years.

00:05:08.320 Crude refined products exports exceed imports and weekly data.

00:05:12.380 Shale boom has boosted U.S. crude oil shipments to record.

00:05:15.740 And that's especially in North Dakota, by the way.

00:05:19.100 Texas, too.

00:05:19.820 They fracked like crazy there.

00:05:21.340 Now, that is incredible.

00:05:24.200 And by the way, it's not an anti-Canada thing.

00:05:26.240 Trump has gone full tilt with energy production as a jobs thing, as a trade thing, as a way

00:05:33.760 to take power away from Russia and Iran, which are very dependent on oil for their wealth.

00:05:39.060 And it gives them leverage even over Saudi Arabia, his ally.

00:05:41.880 If the U.S. is a huge oil producer, if the U.S. floods the world market with oil, if it

00:05:46.920 becomes independent of OPEC, both strategically and economically, it can actually boss around

00:05:52.220 OPEC or at least not be bossed around by OPEC.

00:05:55.040 And America can even export oil to countries who could buy from America instead of from

00:06:00.300 Saudi Arabia or Iran.

00:06:01.660 There's win, win, win all around.

00:06:03.620 Canada could have been a part of that.

00:06:06.080 But we undid ourselves.

00:06:07.560 I'm sure there will still be markets for our oil somewhere at some price someday.

00:06:12.500 I mean, oil will always be used, I think.

00:06:15.900 But we missed the big moment, didn't we?

00:06:18.480 Because of Gerald Butts.

00:06:19.480 And we may never get that moment back like my friends in Inovic just won't.

00:06:24.200 They are waiting.

00:06:25.240 That whole town is waiting.

00:06:26.800 I was up in Tuktoyaktuk on the Beaufort Sea in the Arctic.

00:06:30.260 They are waiting for the big thing to come.

00:06:33.180 Ain't going to come.

00:06:34.640 They were waiting when I visited them.

00:06:35.880 I'm trying to think.

00:06:36.420 I think it was back in 2014, if I recall.

00:06:38.900 I think they're still waiting.

00:06:41.960 And they're going to wait a while.

00:06:44.940 But don't be completely sad.

00:06:46.620 I mentioned that Donald Trump revived the dead and buried Keystone XL pipeline, or at least he tried.

00:06:52.540 I think it'll live again.

00:06:54.080 You know, there's some judge who's blocking it.

00:06:55.400 But Donald Trump probably seems to win in court after some activist judge stops him on something.

00:07:01.700 Donald Trump wins on appeal.

00:07:03.580 And remember the Dakota Access Pipeline?

00:07:05.840 We've talked about this before.

00:07:06.940 It was up there in North Dakota.

00:07:09.560 Huge protests, like thousands of protesters.

00:07:12.920 Obama let the protesters block it.

00:07:14.980 It looked like a huge showdown was coming.

00:07:17.000 It was massive.

00:07:18.480 But only because Obama let it be that way.

00:07:20.480 Trump said, get it done.

00:07:21.860 He issued an order.

00:07:23.680 And the whole place was cleared.

00:07:25.460 And the pipeline was built in months.

00:07:27.340 It's operational, in case you're missing my point.

00:07:31.240 And my bigger point is sometimes it is possible to return from the dead.

00:07:34.880 Sometimes the Dakota Access Pipeline returned from the dead.

00:07:38.340 Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

00:07:40.280 Drilling there was banned decades ago.

00:07:42.840 I thought once you ban drilling, you're never going to unban it.

00:07:45.460 Donald Trump unbanned it.

00:07:47.520 Keystone XL was unbanned.

00:07:49.900 And today is one of those days in Canada.

00:07:55.300 Today is the day that Dalton McGinty's Green Energy Act, Gerald Butts, architect, was repealed.

00:08:03.380 For nearly 10 years it was on the books.

00:08:05.840 Its roots went deep into the province.

00:08:08.620 But it was rooted out like a weed.

00:08:12.540 Let me read from Doug Ford's press release.

00:08:15.780 It really should be sung.

00:08:17.100 This should be sung in a ballad.

00:08:18.740 A great victory song.

00:08:20.660 I'll just read it.

00:08:23.220 Ontario scraps the Green Energy Act.

00:08:25.760 Will protect consumers.

00:08:27.580 Restore municipal authority over energy projects.

00:08:30.480 So this is a press release.

00:08:31.620 I'm going to read some of it.

00:08:32.340 Ontario's government for the people.

00:08:34.900 I love that.

00:08:35.420 Keep saying that, guys.

00:08:36.360 Ontario's government for the people is delivering on its promise to repeal the Green Energy Act 2009

00:08:41.380 that led to the disastrous feed-in tariff program and skyrocketing electricity rates for Ontario families.

00:08:47.840 The Green Energy Repeal Act eliminates a piece of legislation that introduced disastrous changes to Ontario's energy system

00:08:56.360 that led to rising electricity rates for families and businesses, said Minister of Energy, Northern Development and Mines, Greg Rickford.

00:09:04.380 By repealing this act, we're restoring planning decisions to municipalities that were stripped by previous government

00:09:09.100 and ensuring local voices have the final say on energy projects in their communities.

00:09:14.320 Unquote.

00:09:15.000 One more quote.

00:09:43.560 That's a big part of it.

00:09:44.520 You can't build a pipeline in Canada without endless consultations.

00:09:48.880 We know that.

00:09:49.320 Everyone knows that now.

00:09:50.600 Even people thousands of miles away from a pipeline were allowed to weigh in on the pipeline.

00:09:54.860 I'm not kidding.

00:09:55.720 The Northern Gateway Pipeline took input, took testimony from all across the country and even from foreign citizens.

00:10:04.800 Even Hugo Chavez Oil Company, Citgo, was allowed to make a presentation.

00:10:09.260 Endless consultations.

00:10:10.260 Endless consultations.

00:10:10.860 But not so for building massive wind turbines under Dalton and getting Kathleen Wynne. 0.56

00:10:16.520 The Green Energy Act did not allow towns to have a say.

00:10:20.380 Let me phrase that the other way.

00:10:21.520 It banned towns from having a say.

00:10:23.100 Can you believe that?

00:10:24.620 Those things are as high as a skyscraper.

00:10:27.280 Have you ever been up close?

00:10:28.140 I've been right up close to those.

00:10:30.360 They are 30, 40 stories high.

00:10:34.520 It's like downtown Toronto skyscrapers.

00:10:37.660 They are hideous from afar.

00:10:39.620 They are noisy.

00:10:41.480 They are vibrating.

00:10:43.760 They're destroying a rural aesthetic.

00:10:46.500 Oh, and most of them don't.

00:10:48.220 I don't know if you even notice it.

00:10:49.660 Spot wind turbines, most of them aren't even spinning, by the way.

00:10:54.400 They're awful.

00:10:55.180 And they're foisted on the local people.

00:10:57.180 No local people want those.

00:10:59.400 No environmental impact assessments either.

00:11:01.520 No plans for remediation after the life of the wind turbine is over.

00:11:04.600 Here's what I mean by that.

00:11:05.880 Oil sands companies and other mines, they often have to set aside real money.

00:11:09.980 Not like a promise, but actual shove the cash over for cleanup in advance,

00:11:16.080 in case they go out of business.

00:11:17.620 So in Alberta, you want to start an oil sands mine.

00:11:20.880 You have the oil sands mine.

00:11:22.820 You have to put money into escrow.

00:11:25.540 Like a billion dollars you have to set aside in case you go out of business.

00:11:29.460 It's a cleanup fund.

00:11:30.720 It's an interesting idea.

00:11:32.160 No such thing for these 40-story monsters.

00:11:35.120 And it's a real issue because, of course, wind turbines only work

00:11:37.980 if there are massive subsidies.

00:11:40.680 So the moment the subsidies are cut off, they become money losers,

00:11:43.900 and the companies either go bankrupt or they just abandon the wind turbines

00:11:47.020 because they were really just a lobbying tool.

00:11:50.120 And they're hideous.

00:11:51.160 And they rust.

00:11:52.180 No one takes them down.

00:11:53.300 There's no escrow fund to take them down.

00:11:55.700 They just rust and rot.

00:11:57.400 And sometimes they burn.

00:11:59.400 I tell you, and you can't put them out.

00:12:01.900 Those things are 40 stories high.

00:12:03.260 You can't put those things out.

00:12:05.040 It's incredible.

00:12:05.680 Look at that.

00:12:06.040 Look at that.

00:12:07.120 Look at that.

00:12:09.100 I won't lie.

00:12:09.820 I'm enjoying this.

00:12:12.140 Look at that.

00:12:13.060 Yeah, baby.

00:12:14.860 Green energy with a little bit of black smoke.

00:12:18.060 Timber!

00:12:19.300 Oh, yeah.

00:12:20.300 Sorry.

00:12:20.720 This is too good.

00:12:21.840 That's too good.

00:12:22.680 That's too good.

00:12:23.680 Oh, yeah.

00:12:24.100 I have seen dilapidated wind turbines on three continents.

00:12:31.720 It's a real thing.

00:12:32.700 It's extremely unenvironmental.

00:12:34.440 And Gerald Butts and Dalton McGinty brought that to Ontario along with huge power prices.

00:12:38.300 I'm sure it's a coincidence that so many of the major players in the Canadian wind turbine industry just happen to be liberal insiders.

00:12:45.900 Like Mike Crawley.

00:12:46.880 He was the Liberal Party president, first in Ontario, and then under Justin Trudeau federally.

00:12:54.020 He was the CEO of major wind turbine companies, the beneficiary of tens of millions of dollars in subsidies from the Liberal government.

00:13:04.780 I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

00:13:06.140 Just like I'm sure it's a coincidence that so many of the major marijuana companies that have become billionaires under Trudeau in the past year are run by Liberal Party insiders.

00:13:16.840 It's just a coincidence.

00:13:18.640 That's the Liberal way, people.

00:13:20.980 Which is why I am so happy today.

00:13:24.120 Read this line from the same press release.

00:13:28.420 Canceling more than 750 wasteful energy contracts to save $790 million for Ontario electricity customers.

00:13:36.140 Those are sweetheart deals to power companies, like the ones that Mike Crawley had.

00:13:42.680 Paying grossly inflated rates for solar and wind power.

00:13:47.300 Now some of those awful contracts remain in place and will for years to come, but at least it's a start, and I'm thrilled.

00:13:54.360 I want to tell you one last thing about the Green Energy Act, which is a lie, of course, to call it green energy.

00:13:59.840 Wind turbines are enormously inefficient, of course.

00:14:03.120 It takes an enormous amount of steel and concrete and rare earth metals.

00:14:07.640 Have you heard of those?

00:14:09.100 You need iron mines for the steel.

00:14:12.540 But have you ever seen a Chinese rare earth metal mine?

00:14:18.680 These are the pretty pictures.

00:14:20.040 But the effluent, the pollution, it is perhaps the most polluted place on earth, is a Chinese rare earth metal mine slag pile. 1.00

00:14:35.460 Yeah, non-environmental.

00:14:37.120 But more to the point, wind and solar energy, they're unreliable.

00:14:40.940 So they all need a reliable backup source of energy, natural gas, nuclear, whatever.

00:14:46.920 So it's not that the Green Energy Act actually reduced fossil fuel use.

00:14:52.300 He just added a whole second layer of cost and waste, and then there's the obvious.

00:14:57.720 And I don't want to gross you out, but take a look at this.

00:15:00.260 This is the reality of green energy.

00:15:01.660 Oh, he'll be fine.

00:15:20.900 So it was never green energy.

00:15:24.000 You know what?

00:15:24.840 If you don't know this, wind turbines are exempt from endangered species laws in Ontario under the Green Energy Act.

00:15:32.380 Did you know that?

00:15:34.960 And let me just digress for a second.

00:15:37.280 The whole world knows that one disastrous day in Alberta, a bunch of ducks sat down in the tailings pod when the electric scarecrow wasn't working, and they died.

00:15:47.100 There was like a few hundred of them.

00:15:49.120 And the whole world knows that.

00:15:52.160 There was a prosecution and like a $2 million fine.

00:15:56.260 Because in the oil patch, you heard a duck.

00:15:59.040 A duck.

00:16:00.400 It's not endangered.

00:16:01.700 I mean, some good old boys would go shoot 20 ducks in an afternoon, and then, I don't know, go for wings or something.

00:16:08.960 But what was that bird?

00:16:10.440 Did that look like a bald eagle or some condor to you?

00:16:12.860 Wind turbines are specifically exempted from the Endangered Species Act because everyone knows they're bird blenders.

00:16:23.100 Don't call it the Green Energy Act.

00:16:24.400 That's a lie.

00:16:26.200 But today, that law was repealed.

00:16:28.580 Today, let us make this a celebration day.

00:16:32.880 And more good news.

00:16:33.840 A whole fleet of regulations are being repealed.

00:16:36.100 Gerald Butts, Dalton McGindy, Kathleen Wynne, they did do terrible damage, but it is over.

00:16:41.020 It's been undone.

00:16:41.980 It's like taking your hand off a hot stove.

00:16:45.500 It don't undo the damage, but it stops more of the damage.

00:16:48.740 Look at this.

00:16:49.180 Again, from an Ontario press release, I wish I had a better singing voice because this should be sung.

00:16:55.760 The package, part of the Ontario Open for Business Action Plan, includes actions that would give businesses more flexibility to create jobs right here at home.

00:17:04.140 I should read the headline.

00:17:05.240 Proposed changes to create jobs and reduce regulatory burden in specific sectors.

00:17:09.840 So this is another press release.

00:17:10.920 It would also take major steps to make it easier for businesses to locate or expand in Ontario and to protect industrial lands, as well as reduces regulatory burden in specific sectors.

00:17:21.980 Okay, so what does that mean?

00:17:23.140 Well, there are literally dozens of things they've done, and they have a ton of examples.

00:17:27.220 I'm just going to pick a couple of really random examples.

00:17:31.440 Here's one.

00:17:32.180 Ministry of Government and Consumer Services eliminated regulatory and licensing requirements for upholstered and stuffed articles.

00:17:50.500 Removing all Ontario specific licensing and regulatory requirements for upholstered and stuffed articles will reduce a long-standing burden on business.

00:18:00.840 Save businesses $4 million a year annually and eliminate trade barriers.

00:18:06.600 These items will continue to be subject to the federal government's health and safety and labeling requirements, as is the case of other provinces.

00:18:13.820 That's one.

00:18:14.640 And it's sort of obscure, right?

00:18:17.520 But yeah, why do you have extra provincial regs when you already have federal regs for upholstered products?

00:18:23.400 Think about how many little, obscure, weird, niche regulations there are in every single aspect of life.

00:18:29.280 Here's another.

00:18:29.820 Here's a little one, right?

00:18:31.360 This is from the Ministry of Attorney General.

00:18:34.240 It's called Repeal the Pawn Brokers Act.

00:18:36.660 Oh, why?

00:18:37.260 Why would they have to say?

00:18:38.920 Would repeal an outdated act that duplicates municipalities' existing bylawmaking and licensing authority.

00:18:44.600 This change would remove a layer of red tape and make pawnbroker businesses subject to local bylaws, just like any other businesses.

00:18:51.020 Yeah, I mean, why not?

00:18:54.480 Why would you have to do a city license and a province license?

00:18:58.420 You're just a pawnbroker. 0.96

00:19:00.260 How many other outdated dumb laws are there on the books that benefited some insider? 0.99

00:19:05.660 Maybe. 0.97

00:19:06.660 But maybe that's even obsolete.

00:19:08.700 It's just a burden for everyone now.

00:19:10.280 Some of these changes are tiny.

00:19:12.020 Some are huge, like this.

00:19:13.480 This is a change to the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing called Make It Easier to Locate or Expand in Ontario.

00:19:24.660 Introduce a new economic development tool and remove planning barriers to expedite major business investments and speed up approvals so they would be completed within one year.

00:19:33.460 As opposed to the McKenzie Valley Pipeline or the Northern Gateway Pipeline or the Energy Use Pipeline or the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:19:42.280 These proposals to streamline provincial development approvals under the Planning Act would cut red tape and shorten the time it takes to build projects that create jobs.

00:19:49.600 Municipalities would have the option to use the streamline process so they could act quickly to attract major employers.

00:19:55.960 The aim is to have all provincial approvals in place within one year so qualifying businesses can begin construction.

00:20:01.380 Wouldn't that be amazing?

00:20:03.240 Wouldn't that be amazing?

00:20:03.900 I mean, I used to know a condo builder here in town.

00:20:07.520 Six years to get the planning through?

00:20:10.720 Six years!

00:20:12.940 The pyramids were built faster.

00:20:16.260 Maybe not quite.

00:20:17.860 The green, let me just read a little bit more here.

00:20:20.340 The green belt is, I just want to tell you what the green belt is.

00:20:24.520 I mentioned the green belt.

00:20:26.800 The green belt is just another way of saying a huge no development zone that pretty much circles Toronto.

00:20:31.380 It's the reason why housing is so expensive in Toronto, because you can't build in all those green areas.

00:20:39.140 So you either pay artificially high prices to live in Toronto proper, or you commute in for hours.

00:20:44.120 It is awful, and it's pure Gerald Butstall, McKinney, Kathleen Wynne, social engineering.

00:20:49.280 That got a big change today, too.

00:20:50.620 Here's a complaining government journalist with the left-wing TV Ontario.

00:20:58.120 For those of you outside Ontario, you may not know that there is a provincial version of the CBC owned by the government of Ontario called TV Ontario.

00:21:05.380 And here's how this TV Ontario liberal describes this change.

00:21:09.000 He starts off by making a barking sound.

00:21:13.160 Woof.

00:21:14.220 This is huge.

00:21:16.260 The changes to the Planning Act would allow municipalities, with the minister's consent, to pass open-for-business zoning bylaws.

00:21:23.240 These zoning bylaws would not need to comply with.

00:21:27.060 And then he lists all sorts of busybody laws that are now obsolete.

00:21:33.380 And he's saying this is a bad thing.

00:21:38.760 An open-for-business law is a bad thing.

00:21:42.120 He's saying that's his point of view.

00:21:44.140 That's a Dalton McGinnick, Gerald Butst, Kathleen Wynne point of view.

00:21:46.500 I love that this provincial version of the CBC hates it.

00:21:49.400 I love that Gerald Butst can't contain his rage about this.

00:21:52.760 He's lashing out at Doug Ford every way he knows how.

00:21:56.820 You know, there's a federal-provincial meeting going on between Trudeau and the premiers right now, first ministers.

00:22:02.280 Meaning it's not going well because so many premiers want to talk about real problems, like the punishing costs of the carbon tax, or oil and gas pipelines not getting built, or the auto industry shutting down.

00:22:13.540 But Trudeau wants to talk about feminism or something like that. 1.00

00:22:16.440 It's not going well at all.

00:22:17.700 And Trudeau doesn't do well, other than in a few shallow talking points.

00:22:21.200 He wouldn't do well in a deep conference where he has to talk for more than, like, 60 seconds.

00:22:25.300 He's not as well-briefed on oil and gas as, say, Saskatchewan's premier is.

00:22:29.540 He's not, doesn't know business as well as Ontario's Doug Ford actually did business.

00:22:33.640 Trudeau wants to make, this is incredible, he wants to make all the provincial premiers sit through lectures from his cabinet.

00:22:42.520 Why don't they, I'd like Doug Ford to make Justin Trudeau sit through a lecture.

00:22:48.480 Because Trudeau doesn't want to talk about real things, so he wants to have lectures.

00:22:50.980 Let me quote you from a CBC story on the subject.

00:22:52.940 Now, I'm recording this video before the day is done, so I'm not sure how it all went down at the end of the day.

00:22:58.420 But look at this, from the government broadcaster.

00:23:00.660 They said,

00:23:01.940 Friday's agenda, as it stands, is supposed to begin with a meeting between all the premiers and indigenous leaders,

00:23:06.920 followed by talks between the premiers, Trudeau, and three of his members of cabinet.

00:23:11.100 Bill Morneau, Dominic LeBlanc, and Environment Minister Catherine McKenna,

00:23:14.560 who was meeting with her Ontario counterpart, Rod Phillips, earlier Thursday.

00:23:18.960 Here's my favorite part.

00:23:19.940 The premiers have said they don't want to hear the ministers make formal presentations

00:23:23.260 regarding a session on trade scheduled with Canada's ambassador in Washington, David McNaughton.

00:23:28.420 The premiers have said they want to talk not only about NAFTA, but about other trade irritants,

00:23:33.200 such as the metals tariff and softwood lumber.

00:23:36.120 So there's a few things in there.

00:23:37.300 The first is the premiers, especially Doug Ford, aren't willing to be doormats anymore,

00:23:41.620 as the liberal premiers were for three years.

00:23:43.820 And no one wants to hear a lecture on, I don't know, business from Trudeau or how to get things done from Catherine McKenna.

00:23:52.240 Catherine McKenna has never run a business.

00:23:54.040 She's only run businesses into the ground. 1.00

00:23:56.600 No one wants to hear a lecture.

00:23:57.540 They want solutions to problems.

00:23:59.080 They want to talk about problems like the tariffs that Trump has put on because Trudeau fumbled out.

00:24:03.720 Trudeau doesn't have any solutions to problems.

00:24:05.580 So I love the fact that Doug Ford now says he just won't attend the lecture.

00:24:10.160 Catherine McKenna can delight Trudeau with her TED Talk-style PowerPoint presentation.

00:24:15.500 He's got other things to do.

00:24:16.480 You know, the same thing actually happened when Trudeau hosted the G7 leaders earlier this year.

00:24:21.320 By the way, Trudeau was set to give a lecture himself on feminism.

00:24:24.620 Could you imagine listening to him with his sexy voice?

00:24:27.620 And then I said, en français, ladies.

00:24:30.720 You know, can you imagine him giving a lecture on feminism, the kokanee groper? 1.00

00:24:34.500 But Donald Trump just didn't attend.

00:24:36.320 He didn't want to listen to that guy.

00:24:38.980 Trump was focused on grown-up stuff.

00:24:41.060 He was about to go to North Korea for negotiations, or even go to Singapore for negotiations with North Korea.

00:24:47.640 Okay, so what is my point today?

00:24:50.780 My first thing is I wanted to show you that burning wind turbine.

00:24:55.240 Okay, check mark.

00:24:57.300 But a few things I think link to government.

00:24:59.040 There's a pattern here.

00:24:59.840 There's a theme here, I promise.

00:25:00.980 First of all, my message is don't lose hope.

00:25:05.180 If Ontario can undo the Green Energy Act and roll back the green belt, and a hundred tiny little regulations from the upholstery rules to the pawnbroker rules, that's a sign that things can get better. 0.74

00:25:19.220 Like the carbon tax in Alberta.

00:25:21.280 It can be undone.

00:25:22.840 The pendulum can swing back.

00:25:25.260 I'm not saying always, but it can.

00:25:27.460 And things look better when he got a few friends and allies, don't they?

00:25:32.880 A year ago, it was just tiny Saskatchewan, standing up to Justin Trudeau on the carbon tax.

00:25:37.100 Now half the premiers are.

00:25:39.240 Oh, and though I don't recommend riots, France shows that the people can win, even against a pretentious, narcissistic, globalist carbon taxer who loves to pout for the camera.

00:25:51.440 I'm talking about Macron, not Trudeau.

00:25:53.820 Macron backed down on the carbon tax.

00:25:57.580 And you know what?

00:25:58.800 Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna think they're dazzling, think they're well-loved, because they only surround themselves with flatterers, including at the CBC, including their own caucus. 1.00

00:26:06.860 And it can be depressing for the rest of us, because you start to think, am I the only person who thinks Trudeau's an idiot and McKenna's a kook? 0.99

00:26:13.880 But then you have friends and allies. 1.00

00:26:15.820 You see Doug Ford saying, yeah, no, I don't need to sit through you giving your kooky PowerPoint about carbon taxes.

00:26:22.460 And you realize, OK, maybe we're going to be OK after all.

00:26:25.500 Not for sure that McKenzie Valley pipeline cancellation, that ain't coming back.

00:26:30.320 Not in our lifetime.

00:26:32.260 I don't know if the oil sands pipelines will, either, to be candid.

00:26:35.220 I don't know if America needs them.

00:26:36.880 I don't think, I don't know, maybe the moment's passed.

00:26:41.000 But it is possible.

00:26:42.500 I never thought I'd live to see the day when the wind turbine mania was officially killed.

00:26:48.080 I did live to see that day.

00:26:49.600 That day is today.

00:26:51.200 Sometimes, my friends, we can actually win.

00:26:55.280 Stay with us for more.

00:27:05.220 Welcome back.

00:27:13.560 Well, what a difference a year makes.

00:27:16.240 It wasn't long ago that the only people in Canada resisting the carbon tax,

00:27:21.060 well, you could count them on three fingers.

00:27:23.920 The premier of Saskatchewan, a great little province, but a little province.

00:27:28.900 The Canadian Taxpayers Federation, and, well, little old us here at The Rebel.

00:27:35.240 Well, now it is almost 2019, and it seems like half the country is opposing the carbon tax.

00:27:42.160 Doug Ford, the premier of the biggest province of Ontario, is taking him to court.

00:27:46.880 And now we have news that the new conservative premier of New Brunswick,

00:27:51.180 once a liberal stronghold, is joining that court battle.

00:27:55.200 Well, here to talk with us about that is one of the people who's been fighting against the carbon tax since the beginning,

00:28:00.920 our dear friend of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Paige McPherson,

00:28:04.420 the Atlantic Canada Director for the Federation.

00:28:07.360 Paige, it's so nice to see you again.

00:28:09.200 Thanks for joining us from Halifax.

00:28:11.340 My pleasure. Thank you.

00:28:12.740 You know, I've got to salute you guys.

00:28:14.520 I remember when it was pretty much just you and us,

00:28:17.160 and at the time, Brad Wall in Saskatchewan,

00:28:20.200 and it was pretty lonely, and even some fashionable conservatives like my old friend Preston Manning

00:28:25.780 said, oh, a carbon tax is the way to go.

00:28:28.080 You've just got to suck it up.

00:28:29.440 But I think the tide is reversing.

00:28:31.700 Would you say that's true?

00:28:33.620 Yeah, definitely.

00:28:34.400 I remember, you're right, we've been fighting the carbon tax from day one,

00:28:38.860 and particularly in Ontario.

00:28:40.900 People said, look, Ontario is never going to change.

00:28:43.240 You've got both the Liberals and the PCs in Ontario saying that the carbon tax is the way to go,

00:28:50.020 and that is a carbon tax stronghold, and you're never going to break it down.

00:28:53.580 Well, how the tide has changed there in Ontario.

00:28:56.780 You see now Premier Doug Ford there fighting against it,

00:29:00.220 launching a court challenge against Ottawa's carbon tax.

00:29:03.940 The tables have completely turned,

00:29:05.800 and I think that that's just a reflection of what the people in Ontario wanted,

00:29:09.240 because you had a lot of sort of elite academic types and politicians saying,

00:29:16.100 no, the carbon tax is good, and of course it does generate more revenue for government,

00:29:20.080 so no surprise that politicians like it.

00:29:22.260 But I think when it comes down to what voters want,

00:29:25.200 it's certainly, I think, the tide is turning against the carbon tax.

00:29:28.420 You're so right.

00:29:29.000 Well, give us the news from New Brunswick.

00:29:31.380 I haven't had the pleasure of speaking yet with the new Premier, Blaine Higgs,

00:29:34.820 but I did have a very interesting interview with the leader of the People's Party out there,

00:29:41.460 which is no relation to Maxime Bernier's party of a similar name.

00:29:46.840 Libertarian, smaller government type, I mean, a little bit unusual.

00:29:50.620 So I was excited when they formed a coalition to boot the Liberals.

00:29:55.400 Tell us a little bit about Blaine Higgs, and what's he saying about the carbon tax?

00:29:59.520 I think a lot of our viewers in the West and in Ontario might not be that familiar with him.

00:30:04.820 Sure.

00:30:05.420 So Blaine Higgs, the PC Premier of New Brunswick, it was definitely an interesting situation,

00:30:11.200 similar to what you saw in B.C., where there was a time where people weren't exactly sure

00:30:16.340 who was going to form the government.

00:30:17.780 So now, as you said, the Liberals have been defeated.

00:30:20.480 The PCs formed government.

00:30:21.760 They're being propped up by the sort of right-leaning People's Alliance.

00:30:25.820 And it was a very interesting election.

00:30:27.580 Now, Blaine Higgs, the PC Premier of New Brunswick, characterized the election as a referendum

00:30:33.240 against the carbon tax, or a referendum on the carbon tax.

00:30:36.600 Wow.

00:30:37.420 The PCs being against the carbon tax.

00:30:39.960 But to be honest with you, the New Brunswick Liberals, even their plan was to simply rename

00:30:45.420 a portion of their existing gas tax, the carbon tax, and then take that revenue and put it

00:30:50.520 into a climate fund, which we know is code for corporate welfare.

00:30:55.080 But even that Liberal position was not even strongly in support of the federal Liberal carbon

00:31:01.220 tax.

00:31:01.600 And indeed, Ottawa said to the Liberal Premier at the time in New Brunswick, that plan is

00:31:06.600 not going to fly.

00:31:07.240 We won't accept that.

00:31:08.180 Now, with PC Premier Blaine Higgs coming to the forefront here and saying, we are going

00:31:14.620 to take this a step further, New Brunswick is actually now launching its own independent

00:31:20.100 court challenge against Ottawa's carbon tax.

00:31:22.540 So that's now the third province that is actually launching an independent court challenge against

00:31:27.880 that carbon tax.

00:31:28.700 So I think that's really good news for taxpayers in New Brunswick.

00:31:31.560 But it's good news for taxpayers right across Canada, because the more that we fight this

00:31:35.860 tax in Ottawa, I think the better.

00:31:38.180 Yeah, you're so right.

00:31:39.280 You know, you raise a great point.

00:31:40.860 And I'm no fan of the Liberals, as you know.

00:31:43.900 But it is true that a tax on gasoline, well, I mean, that's a hydrocarbon.

00:31:50.900 And I mean, we're carbon-based life forms.

00:31:53.800 Almost everything is carbon.

00:31:55.260 Look at the word carbs.

00:31:56.700 It's a carbo-hydro.

00:31:57.940 I mean, to be against the periodical table of the elements is nutty to begin with.

00:32:04.140 But if that's the weird game we're playing, it's completely legit.

00:32:08.180 For even a liberal premier, like the late liberal premier of New Brunswick, to say, look, we're

00:32:15.120 already carbon taxing our people to death through gasoline taxes.

00:32:19.620 A gasoline tax is a carbon tax.

00:32:22.360 I mean, I don't like it.

00:32:23.180 And I don't like the games.

00:32:24.860 But there is a legitimate point there.

00:32:28.040 And I mean, that's sort of a Weasley way of saying we don't like it.

00:32:31.420 But it is a way of saying we don't like it.

00:32:33.380 It's interesting to me that that wasn't enough for New Brunswick voters.

00:32:37.800 And that gives me great hope that people want the full repeal, the full no here. 0.98

00:32:44.000 Yeah, well, absolutely.

00:32:44.980 And so it was a really close vote in New Brunswick.

00:32:49.140 And so I think that what we can confidently say is that voters right across the spectrum

00:32:53.600 didn't want Ottawa's carbon tax, at least, you know, when it comes to that issue and which

00:32:57.580 parties they were supporting.

00:32:58.540 Because the liberals were not fully in support of Ottawa's carbon tax, like you say, I think

00:33:03.020 they sort of scooted around it.

00:33:05.060 But they definitely were fighting the federal government on that issue.

00:33:09.060 And then the PC is taking that even a step further, fighting them more with their own

00:33:12.100 independent court challenge.

00:33:13.220 And I'll add to that as well, that the PC government has said that they're also going

00:33:18.040 to join on to Saskatchewan's court challenge against Ottawa's carbon tax and Ontario's court

00:33:23.240 challenge as interveners on both of those cases.

00:33:26.600 So New Brunswick is actually fighting the carbon tax, you know, that sort of joining that

00:33:31.660 united provincial front against Ottawa's carbon tax in three different court challenges,

00:33:36.900 sending a very clear, clear, clear message, I think, to Ottawa that, look, provincial taxpayers

00:33:43.060 have had enough.

00:33:43.920 And in New Brunswick, where they've already met their 2030 emissions reductions target, and

00:33:49.600 they already are some of the most taxed Canadians when it comes to the gas taxes, which was the

00:33:55.900 former Liberal Premier Brian Gallant's point, but also income taxes, business taxes, you

00:34:01.400 name it, sales taxes, they're the highest across the board in Canada, in New Brunswick.

00:34:06.680 So when you're, or at least among the highest.

00:34:09.300 So when you take that into account, New Brunswickers, A, have already reduced their emissions, they've

00:34:13.900 already done their part when it comes to, you know, the climate change issue.

00:34:17.400 But on top of that, they're already heavily, heavily taxed.

00:34:20.560 How much more uncompetitive can you force a province to be?

00:34:25.120 And I think that's the point that's really getting across.

00:34:27.340 And that's what taxpayers in New Brunswick care about.

00:34:29.260 Yeah, I mean, New Brunswick is a very interesting province.

00:34:32.460 And for a while there, it had net outflow of migration.

00:34:36.540 It was so poor.

00:34:37.380 It was also for a while there, statistically, the oldest population, because all the young 0.99

00:34:42.320 folks just left, because the economy was so slow.

00:34:45.720 I mean, there's a lot of things that make me sad about New Brunswick, the cancellation

00:34:49.640 of the Energy East pipeline, which would have been such an enormous benefit.

00:34:53.400 I want to ask you about one last thing, because I love New Brunswick, even though I've only

00:34:57.320 been there a handful of times, they have natural gas under their feet.

00:35:04.600 And natural gas, it is a hydrocarbon, it is a fossil fuel, as they say.

00:35:08.000 But it has a lower carbon intensity than coal.

00:35:12.820 Now, I don't really care about these things, because I'm aware that carbon dioxide is what

00:35:16.900 plants need for photosynthesis. 0.69

00:35:18.340 I know carbon dioxide is harmless.

00:35:20.680 But for those who care, fracked natural gas is the reason why the United States, their 0.75

00:35:27.620 emissions have actually fallen more than all other countries in the world combined.

00:35:32.060 Not because of some law that Obama passed, or some law that Trump passed, but because

00:35:36.740 they're fracking natural gas.

00:35:38.300 It's so cheap, it's so clean, it's so plentiful, that private companies are saying, wow, this

00:35:42.800 natural gas is so cheap, let's burn it instead of coal.

00:35:45.980 I've got nothing against coal, but I'm just explaining what happened in America, in places

00:35:50.040 like Pennsylvania, that were economically hurt, and now they're booming.

00:35:54.620 That's a very long preamble, Paige, but my question is, is there any chance that under

00:36:01.320 Premier Higgs, who seems to be against the carbon tax, that New Brunswick might revisit

00:36:06.860 its ban on fracking for natural gas?

00:36:09.740 Because talk about an economic opportunity, and talk about a way, if you care about that sort

00:36:14.900 of thing, to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, because natural gas is the cleanest burning

00:36:19.800 fossil fuel there is.

00:36:22.120 Yeah, so I have good news on that front.

00:36:24.640 I would say partial good news.

00:36:26.400 So Premier Higgs has committed, he committed in his platform to revisit the ban on the fracking

00:36:32.700 of shale gas, and they are.

00:36:36.120 They've announced that they're going to partially remove the ban.

00:36:40.780 Now, the problem is, with this policy, is that it's kind of, they have a selective approach.

00:36:46.120 So in communities that have the demand for it, they're saying that they're going to remove

00:36:52.700 the fracking ban, and then in communities that want the ban to stay, they're going to

00:36:56.940 keep the ban on.

00:36:58.060 Now, how that plays out, I think it'll be interesting to watch, because if the communities that want

00:37:02.600 to maintain the ban are communities that don't really have natural gas reserves anyway,

00:37:06.740 well, then no big deal.

00:37:09.040 So I think it'll be positive to see that there will be, probably going forward, some more

00:37:14.500 fracking in New Brunswick than we've seen in the past.

00:37:17.220 And, you know, we've commended the PCs for having that as part of their platform.

00:37:21.140 Of course, there are still those in New Brunswick, political operatives, that are still trying

00:37:24.800 to maintain the ban on fracking, and that's to be expected.

00:37:27.900 But we've called for them to completely remove the ban.

00:37:30.980 And look, I've lived in Alberta.

00:37:32.240 I've lived in New Brunswick for a short period when I was covering the election there.

00:37:37.000 And what you can see so clearly, it's the same in Nova Scotia.

00:37:40.760 You see people leaving Nova Scotia and New Brunswick to go work on safe fracking projects

00:37:47.980 in Western Canada, or even, you know, Ontario, wherever it might be.

00:37:52.240 And then, and they're leaving their home provinces in order to do that.

00:37:57.220 And it just makes absolutely no sense.

00:37:59.620 I mean, why not, when you have these great reserves in New Brunswick, why not have those

00:38:04.580 jobs take place here at home?

00:38:06.780 And I think that's the New Brunswick government's argument.

00:38:09.580 And so I'm glad to see them moving forward on that.

00:38:12.000 We do hope that it results in a complete removal of the fracking ban in the province.

00:38:17.440 But at the very least, we are making some positive progress.

00:38:20.920 Yeah.

00:38:21.140 You know, I used to fly east and west quite a bit, and there were always New Brunswickers 1.00

00:38:25.120 and other Atlantic Canadians, and I thought to myself, New Brunswickers are working on 1.00

00:38:30.960 fracking.

00:38:31.420 They're just doing it halfway across the country and commuting, and that's tough on

00:38:35.620 the families, and it's inconvenient and stressful.

00:38:38.220 Wouldn't it be nice if they could go home every night for dinner?

00:38:40.980 It's the same thing with Newfoundlanders.

00:38:42.480 They jetted all the way out to Fort McMurray.

00:38:45.360 Like, people would actually commute that far to work in oil and gas, because there are

00:38:50.160 bans, some bans in place in Newfoundland, too.

00:38:53.700 Well, listen, we started talking about carbon taxes.

00:38:55.820 We ended up talking about fracking, but I think they are related.

00:38:59.000 Let me ask you one last question, Paige, just because I got you here.

00:39:04.420 The protests in Paris, France, that turned violent, some of them, but they were mainly peaceful.

00:39:10.900 I saw up to 75,000 protesters, Paige, and they were protesting against the fuel tax.

00:39:17.820 Their yellow vests were a symbol of the new anti-car laws of Macron.

00:39:25.020 Did that resonate at all in Atlantic Canada?

00:39:28.240 Because I know a lot of the international coverage has downplayed the carbon tax aspect of that.

00:39:33.660 Do you think that that inspired any Canadians, or was it just not covered clearly enough?

00:39:37.940 Well, I don't know if it's inspired any Canadians to go that far, but I think that what it shows

00:39:45.300 is a reflection of that discontent with these policies that are making the necessities of

00:39:53.440 life more expensive, or more difficult to access, or banning them completely, whatever the policy

00:39:58.300 might be.

00:39:59.500 I think that that same discontent is shared in Canada, in provinces that are fighting the

00:40:06.400 federal government on the carbon tax, saying, we don't want this carbon tax.

00:40:10.660 Stop pushing it onto us.

00:40:12.220 We've now voted in a government that doesn't want it, that said that it's going to fight

00:40:16.060 against it.

00:40:17.460 Stop pushing this carbon tax on us.

00:40:19.800 I think that that sentiment is shared.

00:40:22.120 Now, I haven't seen anything like the protests that have happened in France.

00:40:25.760 I know, obviously, don't condone any of the violence that's been happening there.

00:40:30.060 But, you know, you can understand where a lot of the people there are coming from on

00:40:34.220 the discontent, which I do think is shared.

00:40:37.140 And in Atlantic Canada, there is a particular strength to the necessities of life angle,

00:40:44.360 because we don't have fancy transit systems.

00:40:47.640 You know, most of Atlantic Canada is relatively rural.

00:40:51.180 It gets quite cold and snowy.

00:40:53.600 We need to heat our homes in the winter.

00:40:55.480 We need to drive our cars to get ourselves to work or to get our kids to daycare, whatever

00:40:59.660 it might be.

00:41:01.400 And there's no way that, you know, we're going to do less of that if you simply make

00:41:07.040 it more expensive.

00:41:07.780 All you're going to do is make it more expensive and make life more difficult.

00:41:11.820 And so I think that is a message that does strongly resonate in Atlantic Canada, because

00:41:16.780 that's just the reality of life here.

00:41:18.600 Yeah.

00:41:19.080 Well, I tell you, it's a pleasure to talk with you for once about good news.

00:41:23.040 So many times when we talk with our friends at the Taxpayers Federation, it's degrees of

00:41:27.560 bad news.

00:41:28.260 And I will agree that the pendulum is swinging back at least a little bit.

00:41:33.800 And I don't want violent protests either.

00:41:36.420 But wouldn't it be nice to see a thousand people gathering against the carbon tax, maybe

00:41:40.520 in Yellow Vest, peacefully in Canada?

00:41:42.740 I think that would send a strong signal.

00:41:44.680 Maybe we should team up with the Taxpayers Federation and do something like that.

00:41:47.760 Paige, great to see you again.

00:41:49.780 Thank you.

00:41:50.340 All right.

00:41:50.720 There you have it.

00:41:51.140 My friend Paige McPherson, she's the Atlantic Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation,

00:41:56.280 and she joined us via Skype from Halifax.

00:41:59.100 Stay with us.

00:42:00.100 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:42:00.860 Hey, welcome back.

00:42:13.200 On my monologue yesterday about the UN Global Compact on Migration, K. Rick writes,

00:42:18.660 Ezra, if they have singled you out for attack, then you are effective at punching holes in

00:42:22.200 the liberal lies and propaganda.

00:42:24.760 K. Rick, you're right.

00:42:25.580 I don't mind them being mean to us rhetorically.

00:42:29.720 I think it's a feather in our cap.

00:42:31.720 I think it distinguishes us from the me-toos, the think-alikes, the Justin's journos taking

00:42:38.820 the $595 million in Trudeau bailout money.

00:42:41.720 So if that's all it was, I wouldn't mind.

00:42:43.680 But what worries me is if you read Section 33C and D of the Global Compact for Migration,

00:42:53.460 it specifically talks about recalcitrant media like us.

00:42:56.820 It talks about punishing media like us.

00:42:59.640 It talks about having resources cut off.

00:43:02.140 It talks about having monitoring and detecting and responding by governments to us.

00:43:06.760 So I don't mind if Justin Trudeau and Amin Hassan and Kent Hare and the Liberal Party are mean

00:43:13.420 rhetorically.

00:43:14.080 I don't care.

00:43:15.180 I'm worried that they're going to take steps to ban us, sue us, regulate us, have Facebook

00:43:20.140 shut us down, YouTube shut us down.

00:43:22.020 That's what I'm worried about.

00:43:24.380 Daniel writes, George Soros is writing Canadian policy.

00:43:28.460 I would laugh my head off if it weren't so scary.

00:43:31.640 Yeah, Daniel, you know what's so frustrating to me about that is that was not hidden.

00:43:37.740 I showed you and I've showed it probably half a dozen times over the years.

00:43:41.280 That is a press release from the government of Canada.

00:43:43.060 They were boasting about it.

00:43:43.960 They put it out on the Internet.

00:43:45.140 You can search for it and you can find it in 60 seconds on Google.

00:43:48.960 And yet, have you ever seen a single story in the mainstream media about that?

00:43:54.180 Just about it at all?

00:43:55.100 I mean, George Soros is a newsworthy billionaire.

00:43:57.800 He's what the world's 14th richest man last I checked.

00:44:01.220 He's got an enormous amount of money.

00:44:03.840 It's just interesting just whether or not you agree with it or not.

00:44:06.680 It's just an interesting piece of news.

00:44:08.100 It has not been reported.

00:44:09.680 And it's not just interesting, it's controversial.

00:44:12.160 Can you imagine a Canadian prime minister outsourcing policy to a foreign country, to

00:44:16.660 a lobbyist?

00:44:17.540 That's, I can't even think of an example where it's ever happened.

00:44:20.680 Don't you think that's newsworthy?

00:44:22.380 And yet, it has not been reported as news.

00:44:24.340 And yet, it's not a speculative theory.

00:44:26.200 That is a fact.

00:44:28.760 Where is the rest of the media?

00:44:31.940 Andrew writes, if you're so fringe and untrustworthy, why are they so worried about you?

00:44:40.080 Yeah, I think they've got to pick a lane.

00:44:41.520 Either the rebel is obscure and fringe and, you know, marginal, or the rebel is dangerous

00:44:46.960 and big.

00:44:47.440 Well, which one is it?

00:44:48.280 I think you've got to pick a lane.

00:44:50.680 I think the answer is we are filling the gap left by the mainstream media and, on some

00:44:56.920 issues, left by a timid conservative opposition. 0.99

00:45:00.160 I know how to kill the rebel. 0.99

00:45:03.200 Don't tell anybody. 1.00

00:45:04.740 Let's just keep this between you and me. 0.99

00:45:06.320 But you know how to kill the rebel?

00:45:08.840 If Post Media, Toronto Star, CBC, CTV, and Global News covered the other side of the story,

00:45:16.820 then why would you need the rebel?

00:45:19.020 You could just flick on your telly and watch it in a million-dollar studio with billion-dollar

00:45:25.240 budgets.

00:45:25.960 Then there would be no news for the rebel.

00:45:27.360 Well, if you heard the other side of the story on everything from the carbon tax to

00:45:30.460 open borders, immigration, to Omer Cotter and terrorism, to any of those issues, that's

00:45:35.220 how you kill the rebel.

00:45:36.900 Don't tell anyone. 0.96

00:45:38.860 Okay, you can tell them.

00:45:40.200 You can tell them.

00:45:41.000 Because I think the chances of the CBC telling the other side of the story are, well, it would

00:45:47.820 be easier for a camel to go through that.

00:45:49.480 I have a needle than for the CBC to tell the truth.

00:45:54.480 Folks, that's it for today.

00:45:56.840 Good luck to our friends.

00:45:59.940 David Menzies is off to Morocco, unless Ahmed Hassan has him arrested.

00:46:05.460 And Sheila Gunn-Reed is off to Poland.

00:46:09.240 They're both covering their respective UN conferences.

00:46:12.860 Isn't that cool?

00:46:13.520 And all of those videos will be on YouTube for free to the world to see.

00:46:18.640 If you want to see them, we've collected, we've set up a special website, rebelun.com,

00:46:25.080 where we will have all of the videos from both David and Sheila.

00:46:28.520 And if you want to help us cover their airfare, you can chip in there, too.

00:46:31.540 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, and I can say World 0.92

00:46:35.580 Headquarters, if we've got folks in Morocco and Poland, yeah, you're darn tootin' World 1.00

00:46:39.260 Headquarters. 0.95

00:46:40.060 To you at home, good night.

00:46:41.660 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:42.500 To you at home, good night.

Rebel News Podcast - December 08, 2018

Doug Ford repeals Ontario’s hated Green Energy Act

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