Rebel News Podcast - Equipping parents faced with government indoctrination： Alex Newman on Public School Exit

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00:01:47.300 Is it time for a Brexit-style exodus of children from government-run public school systems? I'm

00:02:05.820 Sheila Gunn-Reed. As you can see, I'm on the road again today, but you're still watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:17.300 I first met Alex Newman of the New American and the Liberty Sentinel in the Epoch Times

00:02:32.680 a couple of years ago at the United Nations Climate Change Conference. It was actually the

00:02:36.960 one that was held in Bonn, Germany. And he was such a welcome face because I thought I was alone as

00:02:43.480 one of the rare skeptical journalists at these things. However, unlike me, Alex is still allowed

00:02:48.440 inside the UN conferences. Alex is a careful watcher of how government tries to control every

00:02:54.040 aspect of our lives by using things like climate change, but also by using things like the public

00:02:58.480 school system to create an army of compliant proselytizers of far left-wing politics. And so

00:03:05.320 Alex joins me on the show today in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon when I was still back at my

00:03:11.200 home studio about his efforts to steward the exodus of children from the public school system in America

00:03:19.120 and about his new award for being a courageous Christian leader. Take a listen.

00:03:24.880 So joining me now is Alex Newman of the New American in the New American studios, which is

00:03:45.040 kind of exciting. Alex, I had a pleasant surprise the other day when I opened up my email and I saw

00:03:53.520 a press release saying that you had just won the Dr. Robert Dreyfuss Courageous Christian

00:03:59.720 Leadership Award. First of all, congratulations on that award. Tell us all about it.

00:04:06.880 Well, thank you so much, Sheila. It's great to be with you. And it's really humbling to get the

00:04:11.580 award. I'm always a little bit embarrassed about talking about myself, but it was a real honor. It

00:04:17.160 came from the group Frontline Ministries and the founder of that ministry and the executive director

00:04:23.280 of that ministry has become a friend of mine. And he's given it to some really wonderful people over

00:04:29.280 the years. And so I'm just humbled and honored to be included on it. And he made this big list of all

00:04:34.280 the reasons why he thought I earned it. But I think what really pushed him over the edge was a speaking

00:04:41.220 tour that I did in 2019, where I went all across the United States and even actually did some talks

00:04:47.020 in other countries about the problem in the public school system. And, you know, his mission in life

00:04:52.960 has been now for decades to try to get children out of the public school system. And for decades,

00:04:58.240 that was kind of like, you know, a fringe idea. And the times have really changed now. We've had,

00:05:04.080 for example, Rush Limbaugh, by far the most significant talk radio host in America. In the year before he

00:05:09.220 died, he said repeatedly, parents, you need to get your children out of the public school system.

00:05:13.860 President Donald Trump said twice that we need to protect our children from public schools. The

00:05:19.040 reason the children are all going crazy is because they're being indoctrinated in public schools. We

00:05:23.320 had Franklin Graham, one of the biggest evangelical leaders, said the same thing about what was going

00:05:28.580 on in New Jersey. And I don't know that we can take the blame for all of that. But I think in

00:05:35.280 Ray's efforts, and then we created a new organization called Public School Exit. It's

00:05:39.880 kind of all the list of things that he listed on there. And yeah, I mean, it just was really

00:05:46.520 incredible. It gave me a nice plaque. And we had a nice ceremony at an off the record meeting for

00:05:51.800 conservatives in Orlando. So we had a little breakout session. And just phenomenal. We had

00:05:57.960 probably more than 60 people there, including some of the top leaders in the world of Christian

00:06:02.700 education, homeschooling. It was it was phenomenal. So yeah, I realized just how humble you are about

00:06:10.860 your own accomplishments when I was reading that press release, all the things that you've done

00:06:15.360 and all the organizations that you're involved with. And I thought, I met Alex at the UN climate

00:06:20.420 change conference, and he seems pretty sharp about those kind of things. And then there's this whole

00:06:23.900 other side of Alex Newman that I knew a little bit about, based on, you know, the book that you

00:06:29.200 wrote, I think it would be two years ago now. But I didn't realize all the things that you were doing

00:06:34.900 to empower parents with regard to education. And for me, I think that might be one of the things that

00:06:42.840 really, one of the positives that comes out of the pandemic, and the lockdown and the closures of the

00:06:48.680 schools, is that parents are realizing, we don't need the public education system to do this,

00:06:55.800 we can be educators of our children, because parents have always been the first educators

00:07:02.000 of their children. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, Sheila. It's been such an amazing time over

00:07:09.440 the last year. You know, there's been the downsides, we've lost huge amounts of freedom, some people

00:07:13.340 have gotten sick, some people have even died. And that's all very sad. But the the enormous silver

00:07:18.760 lining here, if you if you look at the data in America, the tide is really changing. And I can give you

00:07:24.480 some some examples of that in the homeschooling world, for example, before the pandemic, something

00:07:29.540 like 5% of American families with school aged children were homeschooling their children.

00:07:34.340 By the end of summer of 2020, that number had doubled, it was now 10% of families with school

00:07:42.240 aged children that were homeschooling. And it you know, people who know about homeschooling know that

00:07:46.040 those families tend to be larger or significantly larger than your average family. So that means well over

00:07:51.460 10% of American children now who are in education are being educated at home. And that's true legitimate 1.00

00:07:57.600 homeschooling, right? That's not like the government gives you a laptop, and then the government beams

00:08:00.940 your government teacher into your government school classroom at home. This is true homeschooling where

00:08:05.440 the parents are taking charge. And you're absolutely right. When people suggest that parents aren't

00:08:10.920 qualified to educate their own children, they were if parents aren't qualified, who could possibly be

00:08:16.280 more qualified, who loves that child more than the parent who knows that child better than that

00:08:22.040 parent, their learning styles, their difficulties. And when you have a one on one or one small

00:08:27.540 environment like that, where the parent can deal with one or two or three children, it's an entirely

00:08:32.240 different atmosphere than trying to control, you know, 2030 kids in a classroom. And the data shows

00:08:38.040 it clearly, too. If you look at the data on homeschoolers, on average, they are light years ahead of the

00:08:43.000 victims of the government school system. So big things are happening. And then if you look at the

00:08:46.600 public schools data, their enrollment, Sheila, is dropping like a rock. There's districts that have

00:08:51.420 lost 15, maybe 20% of their students just since the pandemic started. And a lot of those are never

00:08:56.400 coming back. So this is really, really good news for freedom, for family, and for the cause of

00:09:03.040 perpetuating our civilization and our liberties into the future.

00:09:06.640 Yeah, there's an important thing that a lot of, you know, proponents of the government

00:09:12.140 factory school system forget to mention. And that is that ivory league schools go out and openly

00:09:19.800 solicit and court homeschool children. Because by the time you get to university, you need to be an

00:09:26.440 independent learner, an independent thinker, usually. I mean, that's changing pretty fast in the university

00:09:34.220 system. But I mean, these elite level schools are openly looking for homeschooled kids, because they

00:09:41.880 are such high achievers. And, you know, that's one thing the teachers unions definitely don't want

00:09:46.840 you to know.

00:09:48.380 Yeah, that's exactly right. And the data on this is clear as well. I mean, the major elite universities

00:09:53.920 are out there actively looking for homeschoolers, because they know a few things. They know the

00:09:57.900 homeschoolers are going to be more likely to earn more money. They know homeschoolers are going to be

00:10:01.160 more likely to be involved in the civic arena, right, in politics, in the community. They know

00:10:07.720 that homeschoolers are actually much better at doing university, right? They're also more tolerant.

00:10:12.520 And the data on this is now starting to accumulate. One of the previous recipients of the Robert

00:10:17.760 Dreyfuss Award for Courageous Christian Leadership was a wonderful man that I know well. He's been in my

00:10:22.560 house for dinner, Dr. Brian Ray, who runs the National Home Education Research Institute. And he now has

00:10:29.340 decades of academic research. These are scholarly, peer-reviewed journal articles laying out the

00:10:35.820 facts about homeschooling. And it's just like night and day. These children do better on every

00:10:40.620 front, academically and socially. And they're going to do better long into the future. And these

00:10:44.520 universities are thinking, hey, we want people who are going to go out and make money who can fund

00:10:48.400 our endowments. We want people who are going to be good representatives of the school. We want people

00:10:52.280 who we don't have to kind of go back and teach them basic English and reading and math for them to be

00:10:57.580 able to get along here. And homeschoolers meet that bill very, very well. So very encouraging things

00:11:04.160 are happening on this front. And I think it's one bright spot in this just sea of horrors that we're

00:11:09.380 in the midst of right now. I wanted to ask you about some of the other initiatives that you're involved

00:11:14.520 in. Now, you touched on it briefly, and that was public school exit. And then also Red Pill University.

00:11:21.080 What are those two things about? And also, how can parents get involved?

00:11:27.660 Yeah, well, thank you for asking. I'm incredibly honored to serve as the executive director for

00:11:32.820 public school exit. It's an organization that we started back in 2019. It was almost like divine

00:11:37.300 intervention that we started this shortly before the whole world went into lockdowns, because

00:11:40.800 that's exactly what was needed at this time. But basically, after my speaking tour, we did a special

00:11:46.140 report in the New American magazine rescuing our children. I think I gave you a copy.

00:11:49.600 If not, I definitely need to. Okay, very good. And so I did a national speaking tour on that. I think

00:11:54.320 I've given that talk probably 150 times now in at least 43 states and multiple countries. And out of

00:12:00.540 that effort grew public school exit. So we teamed up with some incredible people. Dran Reese, who serves

00:12:06.380 as our president, she's been involved in ministry for a long time. She does amazing work. But she was

00:12:11.120 realizing, you know, she was tracking all these bills moving through the California legislature and trying

00:12:15.580 to keep track of what politicians are doing what. And finally, she realized, hey,

00:12:19.080 all of these efforts are going to be for nothing if they get all our kids.

00:12:23.300 So we brought Dran, we brought Ray Moore together, we brought my friend Dr. Duke Pesta,

00:12:28.080 who's a very well known academic, you know, regular guest on Fox. And he he's a professor at the

00:12:33.660 University of Wisconsin. And he also runs the Freedom Project Academy where I happen to teach.

00:12:37.800 So that was our kind of core leadership team to begin with. And we said, well, hey, our goal is to get the

00:12:42.260 children out of the schools. What do we do now? And out of that grew this incredible advisory board,

00:12:47.280 people can find us online, it's public school exit.com. And we've built just an amazing group

00:12:53.040 of men and women, you know, lawyers, pastors, educators, I mean, the former superintendent of

00:12:59.320 public instruction for the state of Arizona, the highest ranking education official for Arizona,

00:13:04.040 after four years in that job, she went in thinking, hey, I'm going to reform the school system.

00:13:08.140 And after four years, she said, hey, that's not possible. I might as well just go beat my head

00:13:11.700 against a brick wall. So now she has joined in our effort. That's the caliber of people we've

00:13:16.240 brought. And now we are working with pastors. We are working with parents. We have a scholarship

00:13:22.140 fund set up so that, you know, when you do meet that very rare individual who literally can't

00:13:28.000 financially make it work, you know, maybe single mom, you know, eight kids, deadbeat dad ran off and

00:13:33.460 left the mom with the kids, then we want to step in and we want to help. So we're partnering now with

00:13:37.520 schools, with churches. We want to help churches set up. You know, they're empty for six days out

00:13:42.080 of the week, maybe five days out of the week. Why is all that space going to waste when we could be

00:13:46.040 rescuing our children and giving them a good, solid Christian education instead of just letting the 0.99

00:13:51.320 building get cobwebs? So that's what we're doing. PublicSchoolExit.com. Actually, just today, I got an

00:13:56.280 email from somebody in Canada, totally by coincidence, said, hey, do you guys have a chapter up in Canada?

00:14:00.360 What can we do up here? So it's growing. It's becoming international. And this weekend at this

00:14:05.700 off the record conservative meeting at our side event, we had at least half of our advisory board

00:14:10.900 there. Each one gave a little testimony. One of them, for example, the president of the Pacific

00:14:15.340 Justice Institute, very prominent attorney, Brad Dacus. He said, I actually wrote a book years ago

00:14:20.580 explaining how I thought we could reform the schools and how kids could go evangelize in the schools.

00:14:25.540 And then I realized, hey, they're destroying our children. We're not going to reform the schools.

00:14:29.340 We've got to rescue our kids. So it's been it's it's been incredible. And then you ask about

00:14:33.620 the Red Pill University, the Red Pill Expo. G. Edward Griffin, for those who don't know, is a very

00:14:40.320 well-known American. If you go to his Wikipedia page, I'm sure they say nasty things about him like

00:14:44.360 they do everybody who's decent and honorable. But he's a good man. He's been involved in this fight

00:14:48.280 for decades. He wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island, which has sold just mind-boggling amounts of

00:14:53.660 copies about the Federal Reserve System. And he contacted me and said, hey, you know, would you be

00:14:57.980 involved in this initiative I'm working on? So we have been every year for the last five years

00:15:02.040 having Red Pill Expos where we bring together elected officials. We bring together leaders in

00:15:08.320 the liberty movement, doctors, leaders in the health field. And the theme is, of course, based

00:15:13.660 on the matrix. You know, you take the red pill and then you're awake as opposed to taking the blue pill

00:15:17.760 and going back to sleep. And it's been an amazing experience. We're having our next one in South

00:15:22.420 Dakota. That'll be June 4th through 6th. So any of you guys in Canada, we're not all that far from you

00:15:28.500 if you can cross the border in the COVID-19. And so that'll be fun. And then we turned Red Pill Expo

00:15:34.440 from that group, Red Pill University, where basically people can come at any time and learn

00:15:39.700 from our faculty. So we're putting up a lot of videos. We're eventually going to have live classes

00:15:43.540 and enormous things, incredible things happening. And I'm tremendously honored to be a part of it.

00:15:48.780 You know, as you were talking, I thought, oh, you know, this is it's been a really long time since

00:15:53.740 somebody rethought the education system. But then as you continue talking, I realized you're not

00:15:58.880 actually rethinking the education system. You're going back to exactly what worked. Because for the

00:16:04.140 duration of human history, except for maybe the last half a century, 60, 70 years, education,

00:16:12.020 the bulk of education was done at home or in the church, by the church. Schools were church run.

00:16:18.500 And so you're really not rethinking anything. You're just going back to the idea that what

00:16:23.720 isn't broke, we shouldn't have tried to fix anyway, I think.

00:16:29.020 That's exactly, exactly right. I couldn't have said it better myself. You know, we of our generation,

00:16:34.780 I'm a millennial, which is so embarrassing. But, you know, we grew up in this world where

00:16:38.060 government school was the norm. And, you know, I never went to government school, but everybody else

00:16:41.680 did. And so that's just kind of it's always been that way, right? Well, no. Okay. For thousands of

00:16:46.900 years of human history, parents were the primary educators of their children. If you go back and look at

00:16:51.480 the generation that founded the United States of America and caused us to become an independent

00:16:55.980 country, these were wonderful. I mean, great, great, very learned men. And the overwhelming

00:17:02.000 majority of them were homeschooled. People like James Madison, right? He was educated by his parents

00:17:06.560 at home. And then he helped educate his younger siblings. They were in university by the time they

00:17:10.600 were 14, translating, you know, Greek Bible into Hebrew and then back into English. I mean,

00:17:17.160 that's the level that they were at. And we look at what we have today with you. Oh, we're so smart.

00:17:21.860 Absolute baloney. And so that's really what we want to do. We want to go back to what worked. And one of

00:17:27.100 the members of our advisory board, she was actually at the meeting over the weekend. Her name is Carrie

00:17:32.100 Woodruff. She is the leader of the Foundation for American Christian Education. And that's exactly what

00:17:37.280 they're about. Their two founders, these two wonderful ladies figured out after World War II 0.95

00:17:41.380 that education in America was taking a nosedive. And they said, well, this isn't working. What

00:17:45.900 did education used to be like during the founding era? So they went back and they studied that and

00:17:50.240 they wrote some books and they said, wow, we can go back to what worked. And the proof is in the

00:17:54.820 pudding. They've got a network of schools, not just across America, but all over the world,

00:17:58.180 in Brazil and in Uganda. They've got hundreds of schools using this method that was really just

00:18:03.040 resurrecting good education from previous generations. And the results speak for 0.98

00:18:10.160 themselves. I've spoken at some of those schools. They've got one in Oklahoma. It's got 600 students.

00:18:14.820 I spoke at one in Virginia, hundreds of students. And even on the government's own test, they're off

00:18:19.320 the charts. And I went there. You go into the kindergarten classroom and the children are

00:18:23.780 learning how to read. You go into the fourth grade classroom and the children have handwriting that

00:18:26.880 looks like it came out of a computer. And they're well behaved and they're happy and they're

00:18:30.820 thinking and debating. It's just such a breath of fresh air when you compare it to the nonsense

00:18:36.400 masquerading as education today. And that really is the key right there, Sheila. We know how education

00:18:41.200 works. Humans have been doing this for a long time. We just need to go back to what worked.

00:18:45.720 You know, speaking of nonsense masquerading as education and bad ideas born in the public school

00:18:50.980 system or at least proliferated in the public school system, I wanted to ask you about, because you

00:18:56.980 are in Biden's new America, this idea that biological males should be allowed to play on girls' sports

00:19:10.820 teams, I guess this would happen in a public high school. I have a 14-year-old daughter who plays

00:19:17.720 very competitive level rugby. But she's a 14-year-old girl and she has not undergone testosterone

00:19:23.420 puberty. Her rugby career is over the day a boy is wearing cleats on the other side of the ruck from

00:19:31.680 her. And so I can't even fathom what this means in the education system. Does this mean boys in the

00:19:39.580 girls' change room? What does this mean? Yeah, unfortunately, that's exactly what it means,

00:19:44.520 Sheila. It is tragic. It's cruel. I mean, the example of your daughter is actually a perfect one.

00:19:50.940 These are young girls who, you know, their passion is playing sports. They're really good.

00:19:55.140 They've been working their whole life toward this goal. And suddenly a guy, you know,

00:19:59.180 pretending to be a girl is going to be competing against them. And we're supposed to accept that 0.93

00:20:05.000 our daughters are going to be competing against men. It's cruel, I think, is the only word that 0.99

00:20:10.800 describes it. And the worst part is this is being done under the guise of being tolerant, being

00:20:16.280 accepting. It is no such thing. This is a full frontal assault on women, on our daughters, on

00:20:23.760 children. And actually, what you described has been happening in the United States for years now,

00:20:28.740 Sheila. You have boys going into girls' locker rooms. And when the girls freak out and say,

00:20:33.060 oh, my goodness, what's going on here? They're being told that there's something wrong with them

00:20:36.760 because they don't want boys watching them undress in the locker room. We had a scandal in my home

00:20:41.080 state of Florida where the physical education teacher was actually threatened, not just with

00:20:45.980 losing his job, but with losing his teaching credentials so he could never be a teacher again

00:20:49.960 because he was not comfortable watching a young girl undress and become naked and shower in the

00:20:56.120 boys' locker room. This was a major case in the state of Florida. And this kind of thing is going

00:21:00.980 to be happening a whole lot more under these crazy new rules that Biden had absolutely no legitimate

00:21:05.800 authority to implement. I wanted to ask you, since you are the recipient of a Courageous

00:21:12.320 Christian Leadership Award, I wanted to ask you if the case of Pastor James Coates is sort of on the

00:21:18.360 radar within the Christian sphere in the United States. Pastor James Coates is imprisoned at the

00:21:27.860 maximum security Edmonton Remand Center for breaking public health rules. The public health rule requires

00:21:34.920 him to limit his church congregation to 15% of fire code capacity and force his congregation to wear

00:21:41.160 masks. He will not, he has not, and he turned himself in on February 16th and he's remained in the maximum

00:21:50.040 security Remand Center since. Even though he does technically qualify for bail conditions, however as a

00:21:56.760 man of good conscience he cannot sign that bail release agreement that would require him to lie and say that he

00:22:03.800 would limit the capacity of his church. I want to know, you know, first of all, what you think about

00:22:09.400 this? Because I think from the outside looking in, everybody thinks that this is a pretty conservative

00:22:13.720 place as far as Canada goes. But what do you think about that? And then is this, is this leaking into

00:22:20.600 the conservative sphere in the United States? Do people know about it? Do they care about it? Or is this

00:22:26.120 just something that's driving me insane? Yeah. Well, thank you for bringing that up, Sheila. And

00:22:31.800 I can tell you, I'm praying for our brother who is right now in chains. This is, it's horrifying. It's

00:22:38.340 grotesque. But at the same time, you know, what an honor he has to be able to suffer for the cause of

00:22:44.360 Christ. It really, it's, it's just, I'm almost a little bit jealous because that is, it's just such a

00:22:49.720 high honor to be able to suffer for the sake of the truth and suffer for the sake of the faith.

00:22:54.560 So God bless him. The Christians in America know about this. Many of us do. We are praying for him.

00:23:00.360 And unfortunately, this is the kind of thing that is going to sweep all across Canada and all across

00:23:05.920 the world if people don't stand up. We're already seeing the beginnings of that sort of abuse here in

00:23:11.480 the United States. In my state of Florida, you know, everybody thinks Florida is the free state. And

00:23:15.740 right now we kind of are. But even in Florida, early on during the pandemic, they sent, you know,

00:23:21.680 a large force to go arrest a conservative pastor because he wouldn't shut down. Now, fortunately,

00:23:26.620 our governor, who is doing a wonderful job, stepped in and said, hey, you local people,

00:23:30.500 you release him immediately. But in many other states, I mean, in California, they're still

00:23:35.220 threatening pastors. One of the pastors on our advisory board for a public school exit, Rob McCoy,

00:23:40.200 he was at the meeting this weekend. He was threatened with arrest for refusing to shut down his church

00:23:45.140 in the United States of America, where the very first amendment protects our freedom to assemble,

00:23:50.880 our religious liberty, our freedom to speak. It's just it's mind boggling. So we're following the

00:23:57.840 case closely up in Canada. Hopefully, this is a temporary aberration. But if we continue moving

00:24:03.840 in this direction, I think that's going to start becoming the norm. And, you know, as a Christian,

00:24:09.180 it's not that I'm worried about it. The Bible is very clear that the gates of hell will never

00:24:14.760 prevail against the church. But maybe it's time for Christians to start preparing themselves,

00:24:19.100 because that's the direction the world is moving in. And more of us may have to go to jail for the

00:24:23.720 sake of our testimony. So God bless the pastor. We are praying for him. And I hope everybody in Canada

00:24:30.180 is as well. This is a critical issue. And I hope people understand the significance of this. This is

00:24:34.880 a major turning point. This is not a small thing. This is a turning point in our societies that,

00:24:40.620 if left unaddressed, is going to have very, very serious consequences going forward.

00:24:45.360 Yeah, I've been to northern Iraq. So I know where persecution leads to when you don't nip it in the

00:24:51.800 bud beforehand, when you don't stand up and say something about it. And I've spent the last four

00:24:57.640 weeks in Pastor Coates' Grace Life Church. I'm not a member of his congregation. However, they'd sure

00:25:02.880 love to have me. What a great bunch of people. Holy cow. But, you know, the idea that they cannot

00:25:09.520 let Pastor Coates free, because if he does, then his church pews will be full. They are full.

00:25:18.260 Because anybody who locks up a pastor thinking that it will end Christianity misunderstands church

00:25:24.620 history and the church itself. The church thrives under persecution. And inspired by Pastor Coates,

00:25:31.400 other churches are doing the same. They're saying, no, I'm sorry. Pastor Coates has really brought an

00:25:37.360 issue to light within the church, that we must be obedient to God and not the government. And we're

00:25:42.680 seeing church after church after church make the same stand. And I think they're going to need bigger

00:25:47.900 prisons if they think they're going to lock up all the Christians who are obedient to God over

00:25:52.860 our Premier Jason Kenney. Amen. I couldn't agree more with you, Sheila. And before this happened,

00:25:59.720 actually, I was invited to preach at a major Baptist church on the east coast of Florida. I believe it

00:26:05.940 was in October of last year. And I actually preached on exactly this subject, the duty of Christians

00:26:11.500 toward government, and also the duty of Christians to resist and disobey government when that government 0.89

00:26:18.080 violates what God has commanded. And this is a theme that is constant throughout the Bible. Daniel refused to

00:26:24.840 stop praying to God. He was thrown into the lion's den. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused to bow

00:26:29.800 down before this giant golden idol. And they were thrown into the fiery furnace, and God protected

00:26:34.000 them. I mean, the apostles, right? They refused to stop preaching in the name of Christ. And then that's

00:26:39.500 where that famous line that you just gave came from in Acts, right? Is it better to obey God or men?

00:26:45.060 Well, hey, we are going to obey God, and we must. And so this is a theme that's all throughout the Bible.

00:26:50.720 Yes, Christians must submit to government, but Christians must submit to God first. 0.97

00:26:54.840 And you're right. This is causing an incredible awakening in the church. I think this is actually going to be

00:26:59.560 very healthy for the church. And you're also right on the money about the spreading and the thriving of

00:27:05.500 Christianity under persecution. If you actually look at the spread of the gospel, it came about as a result

00:27:10.500 of the persecution. They were persecuting the early church. They scattered all over the world, and boom,

00:27:15.340 now Christianity is a global phenomenon. There's nothing governments can do to stop it, but what an honor it is

00:27:22.040 to suffer for the cause of the truth. Alex, I could probably talk to you all day, but I know that you're in New American HQ,

00:27:31.420 so I'm sure you have other things to do than let me bend your ear. How can people find the work that you do on, you know,

00:27:39.320 not just at the New American, but other places, and how can they support the work that you do,

00:27:44.420 and maybe find some of the excellent resources that you have for parents out there?

00:27:51.420 Well, thank you so much for the opportunity, Sheila. So Public School Exit, we're really making an outreach

00:27:56.440 right now to pastors, and we would love to work with Canadian pastors as well. We've got a whole team of

00:28:01.000 experts. We can come in and help you set up a situation where you can start getting the children

00:28:05.200 out of the government schools, and the data's clear. So you can find us at publicschoolexit.com.

00:28:10.500 The New American, you can find it at thenewamerican.com. You can subscribe to the print magazine as well,

00:28:14.700 if you're so inclined. My personal website is libertysentinel.org, and I've got a lot of my

00:28:19.900 sermons and my just ramblings and thoughts on things, personal thoughts that I put up there,

00:28:25.340 and also articles and columns by people that I think very highly of, and Red Pill Expo. If you guys want

00:28:30.480 to come, you can go to redpillexpo.org. That, again, will be June 4th through June 6th. And thank you so

00:28:36.240 much for having me, Sheila. I really appreciate it. I love your show. I love what you guys do at

00:28:40.060 The Revel, and thank you for speaking out on behalf of Pastor Coates. We sure appreciate it. Keep sounding

00:28:46.380 the alarm, and thanks for everything you do, Sheila. We will. Thank you so much for coming on the show,

00:28:51.540 and we'll have you back on again very, very soon. Excellent. Thank you, Sheila. God bless.

00:29:00.480 Like I said to Alex, if there is one good thing to come from this horrible pandemic lockdown,

00:29:08.840 I hope it is that parents find the confidence to realize that they have always been the first

00:29:14.060 and the best educators of their children. It's always been that way since time immemorial.

00:29:20.820 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody

00:29:24.740 back here or, well, probably not here, but wherever I am next week. And remember, don't let the government

00:29:32.320 tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:29:54.740 We'll see you next week.

00:29:55.740 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - March 11, 2021

Equipping parents faced with government indoctrination： Alex Newman on Public School Exit

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