Erin O’Toole says he’s going to campaign on climate change. Is that really what Canadians are talking about？
Summary
Aaron O'Toole says he's going to campaign on climate change, and it's a big win for him. But what gets me about it is that he just won't shut up about it, and won't stop.
Transcript
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through a poll that was commissioned for Justin Trudeau.
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This is not some public survey. This was done for the Privy Council office.
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And I want to show it to you because I want to show you what it says about climate change.
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And that's relevant because Aaron O'Toole thinks it's a big winner for him.
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Tonight, Aaron O'Toole says he's going to campaign on climate change.
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Is that really what Canadians are talking about?
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It's March 24th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it
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For almost a week, I've been wondering why Aaron O'Toole chose to make
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the center of his pre-election speech at his party's convention
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Of all the things, he chooses a favorite liberal issue,
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a favorite media party issue, a left-wing issue, a globalist issue,
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and he's just going to keep talking about it all week long.
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As we all know, the COVID-19 pandemic has changed the world.
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There's been a lot of speculation about what I'm going to say
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We cannot ignore the reality of climate change.
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I don't think it's in the nature of a conservative
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to agree when a politician tells him he can no longer
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where individuals passively submit to authority.
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I really think he believes it's a winner for him.
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Aaron O'Toole to campaign on climate change plan
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Let me just read a little bit from this Globe and Mail story.
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Aaron O'Toole says he will disregard the party's skepticism
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about climate change and fight the election expected this year
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with a new policy to help the conservative party compete for votes.
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I am the leader, and this is an important issue for me,
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The conservative leader said his caucus backs the development
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of a serious and comprehensive plan on climate change
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and the environment that will be released before the election.
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By the way, you'll notice he's not even talking about the environment.
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He's talking about the theory of man-made global warming.
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That's what he says there's no debate about anymore.
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It says he's going to focus on this obscure niche left-wing issue
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the lockdown has devastated businesses and families,
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And Erin O'Toole is obsessed with a fringe lefty issue.
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Have you ever seen Justin Trudeau obsess about this same issue in the last year?
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the side effects of the lockdown on other health problems?
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Do you know why Justin Trudeau isn't in the news every day?
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Talking about global warming the way Erin O'Toole is right now?
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Because I have here a copy of a public opinion poll done just for Trudeau.
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It's a copy of the Government of Canada's official internal survey
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That means it's the civil service office dedicated to supporting Trudeau's office
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So this was released by the government recently,
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but it was originally done in confidence just for Trudeau's eyes.
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Here's the page that discusses its methodology.
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It sounds like a continuous poll if I'm reading it right.
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So on any given week, the poll is accurate, plus or minus 3%, 19 times out of 20.
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And here's the very first substantive page in the poll.
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Thinking about the issues presently facing Canada,
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which one do you feel should receive the greatest attention from the Government of Canada?
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And that pink line at the top is the virus, the pandemic, 32%.
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I thought it would be higher, because that's all the media talks about.
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But the blue line is the economy and jobs, unemployment.
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because I think a lot of real people are worried about that.
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I haven't seen a more recent version of this Privy Council poll,
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but I'll look for it, because I bet the concern about the economy
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is actually much higher now, especially since we all see American states opening back up,
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And the red line is health and healthcare, 11%.
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And you see that green line at the bottom that wavers between 3% and 6%,
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Because that's the environment plus climate change.
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So anyone who has any concerns about the environment as their number one,
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that plus all the global warming worriers adds up to between 3% and 6% of Canadians.
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And remember, this poll has a margin of error of 3%.
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So it's pretty much as close to zero as can be measured by this poll.
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I note that education is just below that, which isn't even a federal issue.
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Do you see why Justin Trudeau, who loves talking about global warming,
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okay, maybe a single person is thinking about global warming right now.
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17% of people say their top issue is unemployment.
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That probably includes the 9.4% of Canadians who are unemployed.
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I think that might mean people who are worried about, say,
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missed doctor's exams, drug overdoses, depression,
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And Aaron O'Toole has decided to go fishing for votes,
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Not in the 32% who say the pandemic is number one.
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Not in the 11% who worry about healthcare in general.
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He's aiming for that 3% to 6% who care about global warming.
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As if they're even open to voting for the Conservatives.
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And the thing is, he's not even promoting or proposing a particular plan.
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That Globe story suggests he hasn't written it yet.
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He hasn't written it yet, but when he does, you're not allowed to debate it.
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He's not putting something forward that's interesting or appealing or debatable.
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I mean, our friend Dr. Patrick Moore, one of the co-founders of Greenpeace,
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I bet he could actually come up with an environmental plan
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that's free market and conservative and actually is persuasive.
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What we just have is Aaron O'Toole saying you're not allowed to talk about it.
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He's just saying whatever he's going to say one day about it,
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Everyone's going to criticize it, whether he likes it or not.
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Does that mean he's going to kick people out of his party again?
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Liberals, NDP, the Green Party, the Media Party, lobbyists, whatever.
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Does he think that only conservatives will be silent in this debate?
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But mainly, he's just telling his people to shut up and agree with whatever he says,
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I just don't think that's how successful political campaigns work.
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And if you care about ideas, which some people do,
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I just don't think that this is an issue that's a winner.
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The Prime Minister's own poll says it will not work.
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I promise you, if Erin O'Toole were talking about the important stuff in Canada,
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global warming would not be the headline in the Globe and Mail.
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I don't think it would be this headline in the National Post.
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I don't think it would be this headline in the National Post.
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I don't think it would be this headline in La Presse, in Montreal.
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I don't think it would be this headline in, oh, say, the Brandon Sun.
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I don't think it would be this headline in the CBC, etc., ad infinitum.
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I promise you, those stories about Erin O'Toole and global warming would not be there
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By making global warming and his demand for total obedience from the conservatives
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and his promise to make campaigning on global warming his central talking point,
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This is as if Trudeau just kept talking about the We Charity scandal with the Kielbergers
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or the SNC-Lavalin scandal or if he wouldn't shut up about his own blackface
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or if he wouldn't shut up about groping Rose Knight in Creston, B.C.
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He would ensure those stories were in the news every day.
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Why would Erin O'Toole rub salt into a wound in his party every day,
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a wound that he himself created but won't stop talking about it?
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He's going to get slaughtered in the coming election.
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And when he does, I bet you he'll blame conservatives for messing it up for him.
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Because as you can see, if he could have just cracked that global warming vote,
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Well, it's no surprise that Erin O'Toole has ordered mere party members to shut up
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Because after all, Erin O'Toole ordered Pierre Polyev out of the position of finance critic
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and he outright threw Derek Sloan, the member of Parliament for Hastings, Lennox and Addington
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and a leadership rival out of the party on the flimsiest pretext.
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Well, that same Derek Sloan was reported to have dominated the policy convention,
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And he joins us now via Skype from his riding of Belleville, Ontario.
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What do you make of the policy convention that the party just held?
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I sent out an email to my supporters doing a post-convention recap.
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And I said that we sort of accomplished three things.
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We accomplished passing a lot of good policies, preventing a lot of bad policies from being
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passed, and also catching the party cheating in sort of broad daylight.
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And fourthly, I said three things, but I just thought of a fourth.
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The fourth thing is that we forced Aaron O'Toole to show his true colors, which is basically
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So I think all of those things were accomplished.
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And I can talk about any of those with you if you'd like.
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Well, no, first of all, tell me, you yourself would not have been a delegate because I guess
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you were extirpated from not just the caucus, but from the party itself, am I right?
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Did they remove your party membership so you yourself could not participate?
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My wife was actually a voting delegate, but I was not technically present at the convention.
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And when you say we, you speak in the first person plural, who was your team?
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When you say we enacted good policies, we stopped bad policies, who's the rest of them?
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Well, you know, good true blue conservatives across the country.
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I had been organizing for several months leading into the convention.
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We don't know exact numbers, but we think somewhere between 40 to 50 percent of delegates
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were, you know, Derek Sloan supporters or true blue conservatives.
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Twenty five out of twenty seven constitutional amendments went the way that I suggested they
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One hundred percent of policy went the way I said it should.
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And we got about 50 percent of national councillors that I endorsed.
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And it's it's not so much me, but just the the membership and the base speaking and they
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Now, there were some things the party did that were basically cheating.
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Well, it sounds like it with those stats you've said.
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If you have been kicked out of the caucus and if you've been kicked out of the party,
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But if I understand what you've told me, that means you will not be able to run for
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You, you know, you may have allies or like minded people on the inside.
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But what is your mission if you are blocked from being part of the Aaron O'Toole team?
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It sounds like you're you don't really want to be be part of a team that is policy wise and
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otherwise conduct wise, contrary to your views.
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I mean, it sounds like the two of you are in a feud of sorts, but he is the leader.
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Well, I'm focusing right now on being the best member of parliament that I can be.
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I'm able to ask the government basically anything I want without anybody breathing down my neck.
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Um, it's possible that some of my friends on the inside will raise the question at National
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I'm just doing everything I can to do what members of parliament are supposed to do, which
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Now, let me ask you about your district association.
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When I was young, they were called riding associations.
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It's basically the local board of directors for the party.
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Their job is to raise money, select a candidate, and then provide volunteer labor.
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Uh, I understand that the party took steps to dissolve or to otherwise challenge your board.
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The, the, uh, sent them notice that they would be dissolved.
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And I think National Council of the party would have to sort of confirm that or ratify that,
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Um, basically my riding EDA was upset at what happened to me.
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And they asked the party for reasons as to why they received none and they pushed back
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And the party, uh, got sick of it and pulled the plug on them, which is pretty unprecedented,
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uh, for people who, uh, you know, follow politics.
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Yeah, and, and those are the, I used to use the phrase grass tops as the grassroots, but
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the grass tops, these are the, the opinion leaders, the, the, the volunteer coordinators.
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These are the folks who would put in, you know, 40 hour volunteer weeks, 50 hour volunteer
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Um, it's terrible that the party is quarreling with itself in that way.
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Let me ask you, um, do you plan on running in the next election, perhaps as an independent
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or an independent conservative or something like that?
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Are you going to run again, even though you won't have the party banner?
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Well, I, I haven't made any official announcements, but I have, I have said that I'm not going
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So I'll let people read into that what they will.
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Um, but listen, I got into politics to fight for the values I've been fighting for and,
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uh, I'm not going anywhere and I'm not going quietly out into the night.
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Now, I have to tell you, I'm, I'm a little disappointed in Aaron O'Toole.
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I'm completely baffled by his demotion of Pierre Polyev, even if he claims it's not a
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I note that Pierre Polyev was not a speaker of the convention.
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Can you confirm that Pierre Polyev, who I regard as a star of the party, can you confirm
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that he actually had no role in the convention?
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He seems to have a good command of the finance file.
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I think Aaron O'Toole dismissed us in a baffling way also.
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I mean, he did an email interview with me about the China files.
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I think he was spooked by the media party reaction and he threw us under the bus.
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What he's doing on the climate file, it seems strange.
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Is it just move the party to the left in the hope of wooing Ontario and Quebec?
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I think there's also a lot of confusion within the ranks.
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Uh, I don't think that they necessarily know what they're doing on a day-to-day basis.
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Um, but yeah, I think that general idea that they want to sort of be as,
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you know, uh, palatable as, as bland as possible to not offend anybody.
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When do you think we're going to have an election?
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And in your mind, what's your best guess of when the election will be called
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So obviously nobody knows, but my, my hunch is that it might be the fall.
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Um, are you, uh, do you believe the polls right now?
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I, I, I, from time to time refer to the poll aggregator that the CBC has.
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It's just, they put all the polls on one page and then they've got a statistician
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trying to muddle out some sort of aggregate number.
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It suggests that the liberals have like a 90% chance of winning and, um, a very strong chance
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They predict the conservatives will actually lose more than a dozen seats, maybe 20.
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So if we had an election tomorrow, I think that's exactly the way it would, would play
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Um, and we'll see how things change moving forward.
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I, I, I like a lot of Maxime Bernier's ideas, but I can observe that he does not have a seat
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in parliament and that when he ran in a by-election, he got single digits in the greater Toronto area.
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He's brash and audacious and I like his presence on Twitter.
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Do you have any contact with him that you are able to disclose?
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Do you, do you feel that, uh, there's anything that the People's Party of Canada could or should
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Um, I mean, I, I like having them around, but I regard him almost like a pundit now.
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So I, uh, I, I've been working with Maxime on the, uh, in the lockdowns caucus.
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We've been, uh, together personally in the same room, uh, three times over the last couple
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Um, we, there are no sort of secret, uh, dialogues going on, uh, between us and, and joining the
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Um, right now I'm focused on, uh, you know, kind of first sort of fighting my battle with
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the conservatives, but now I'm focused on the parliamentary work that I have.
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I, I like a lot of the things that he says, um, you know, and this is me as a, as a, as
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It seems that they've had some difficulty gaining traction.
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Uh, I don't know why necessarily, but, uh, but it does appear they've had some difficulty
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And I think, uh, I think, uh, the, the things he's doing are valuable things.
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We're familiar with some of the players involved there.
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Uh, I have found it perplexing that not a single conservative party, not a single opposition
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party in Canada at the federal or provincial level has had a sustained principled critique
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I look by contrast to the United States, where of the 50 states who have a range of approaches,
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you have real anti-lockdown leaders like Ron DeSantis in Florida, Kristi Noem in South
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Dakota, and you have the other approach, Gavin Newsom in California, et cetera.
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So you have a, there's at least a spectrum of different points of view.
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Can you help me understand why there, I mean, we have such meek opposition to lockdowns
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and lockdownism and restrictions on travel and restrictions on civil liberties.
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There's a few independents like you and Randy Hillier, but why is there no conservatives fighting
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I think it comes down to cowardice and feeling that if they, if they come out too early with
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this stuff, they're going to get punished in the polls.
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Oddly enough, we had an opposition day motion yesterday where the conservatives were asking
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and demanding a plan within 20 days for the government to tell us, you know, how they're
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And, you know, I voted in favor of it, but listen, that came about 10 or 11 months too
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And if you actually watch the debate, there wasn't a lot of discussion about actual sort
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And there's good science that people who are skeptical of lockdowns can, can point to.
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None of that was raised by the conservatives in the debate.
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I did my best to raise, I pointed out the, the issue with the PCR tests.
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But, you know, it's been, anything that has come has been sort of too little, too late.
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It's just, it's a failure of leadership, a failure of courage.
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And I'm glad that the conservatives are finally talking about it now, but it's too late.
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One of the things at the federal level, I mean, I, I think that a lot of the lockdowns
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are coming at the provincial level, which is where a lot of the health jurisdictions
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are, and at the city level, at least that's how it looks to me when I think of Toronto
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So I don't know exactly what levers there are at the federal level.
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I think travel, international travel and quarantines is a big one.
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I learned recently that Israel and the United Arab Emirates, those are two different countries,
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fairly far apart, but they just signed a peace deal.
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So, so for quarantine purposes, they've removed the quarantine, but I thought that was very
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They obviously, I mean, both are very vaccinated places.
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I wonder if there's anything we could do to open up the, the travel border with the United
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States, which is our best friend, biggest ally, biggest commerce, source of tourism.
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I think our tourism industry, our travel industry is devastated.
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Do you have an opinion about the border, about these quarantine hotels, about the 14 day quarantine?
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Because I feel like we're under some sort of house arrest.
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I do agree that the decision to lock down is provincial and, and, and potentially on a,
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But I feel that leadership has been lacking from the federal government.
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And even if all Justin Trudeau did was go out there and give, you know, straight goods
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to quell some of the unnecessary fear mongering that's going on out there, that would have done a load
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I mean, imagine if he went out there and said, listen, guys, this is a, you know, a serious
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situation that we're in, but just so you know, we're, we're seeing that the bulk of fatalities
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So if you're, you know, a 14 year old in good health, you don't have to be, uh, you
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know, shivering at home, uh, worried about, uh, uh, you know, worried that you're going
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Um, you know, this type of sort of leadership was lacking.
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Um, obviously I have my issues with how different provinces have, have handled this, but on the,
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on the federal file, I obviously don't see why people need to be quarantining at special
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hotels that could quarantine just as well at home.
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Um, I, I think we've just, you know, really failed to adopt the reality of this particular
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virus, which is basically that some people are, you know, particularly prone to this,
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And every single, uh, sort of approach we've taken is sort of across the board, uh, whoever
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And, and really we needed sort of segmented targeted approaches and we're, we're still
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And, uh, if we had done that from the beginning, we could have had far fewer deaths in long-term
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I mean, we knew right off the bat that these almost right off the bat, that these people
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So we've done, you know, far too much for most people and not nearly enough for, for our
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I won't keep you too much longer, but there's one more thing I want to talk about, about the
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Conservative Party of Canada and Aaron O'Toole in particular.
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I remember during the leadership race, there was some pressure on you from the caucus.
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Uh, you had said something criticizing Teresa Tam working for the World Health Organization.
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We don't understand how you can be loyal to the United Nations and sign a loyalty pledge
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and a non-disclosure agreement with them, which she did, and also serve as Canada's public
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But some folks were trying to drum you out of the caucus, if I recall.
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And he said, this is a sign I'm against cancel culture.
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That looked like a big, like he was a big man that even reaching out to a rival.
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Now, as soon as he won, I think the mask slipped and he real, and he quickly revealed himself
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And so I note that in the convention and in his keynote speech, he never referred to cancel
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And I feel that both are critical issues for all Canadians, but especially conservatives.
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I know that the very second bullet point in Stephen Gilboa's mandate letter from Justin
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I feel the pressure for that because, because we are social media.
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Talk a bit about this gaping hole in the federal party.
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Well, there certainly is a major issue with social media censorship.
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And if the Conservatives, you know, had the fortitude, they would campaign on this, right?
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I mean, there's a mounting frustration with, you know, sort of the politically correct nature
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of these social media platforms and the deplatforming.
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You know, I wouldn't expect much from them on it.
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I mean, you know, again, I think that Aaron O'Toole did what he thought he needed to win.
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I, you know, having my second votes, having Lesley Lewis's second votes was part of his strategy.
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You know, cracking down on social media, all of this is not part of his strategy.
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His strategy is reaching out to, you know, urban area soccer moms.
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Well, listen, it's interesting to catch up with you, to hear that you're busy with things.
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Even though the party has kicked you out on a formal way, you sound still very engaged in its policy matters.
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And, you know, your answer was somewhat cryptic about what your future plans are.
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But it has led me, at the very least, to keep paying attention that there may be news to come in the weeks or months ahead.
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And I hope that when you have news, either parliamentary news or news about the party or news about your own future,
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I hope that you'll bring it to us because I know a lot of our viewers are very interested in what you're up to.
00:32:47.160
Well, if you wouldn't mind, I'll just mention something I'm doing right now.
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I've started a petition for those who are against a vaccination passport.
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And there's many reasons why one might be against those types of things.
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But this would be something that would prevent your ability to move or travel based on whether or not you've been vaccinated.
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And for anyone who wishes to sign it, they can go to DerekSloan.ca.
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And right now we have about 32,000 in-chain signatures.
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And I intend to present that on the floor of the House of Commons.
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So if anyone would like to add their name to that, they can be included when I present that.
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You know, I wasn't going to ask this question, but you just made me think of it again.
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32,000 names, those are people who are skeptics of the government, skeptics of the surveillance state, the violation of privacy.
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And whatever your political future is, whether it's in parliament or some sort of NGO or think tank, having 32,000 allies on them, that's a strong base.
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Can I ask you, and I suppose I could find out other ways, after your leadership race was over, did you retain, was it part of the rules that you would retain your list of supporters?
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Because if so, that's quite a base of operations to do conservative political work.
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However, in the process of the leadership race, I, of course, cultivated many contacts, which I do have legal right to.
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So there are many tens of thousands of Canadians across the country who reached out to me in various ways.
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And I do have their contact information, and I do contact them.
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So, you know, the entire party list, no, I do not have that.
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But in terms of contacts that I cultivated myself, and it's many, well, I won't tell you the full number, but it's many, many, many.
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And yes, I absolutely do use that to reach out to people and let them know what I'm doing.
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Well, I'm glad you do, and that's one of the things we do at Rebel News.
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And that's a ticket for a number of activities, whether it's running for office or starting a think tank.
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And I'm glad you're doing that, because whether it's to put yourself back into elected politics or to become a policy guru or some sort of a think tank, I think Canada desperately needs that.
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And I think, frankly, the Conservative Party needs that.
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It needs pressure, and if you have that base and that list and that name recognition, that's a tremendous tool to do it.
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I'm sure we'll know more about your plans when you're ready to tell us.
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In the meantime, it's great to have you back on the show, and thank you.
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You can find out more of what he's up to at DerekSloan.ca, including his petition against vaccine passports.
00:36:17.080
On Rebel News, being demonetized on YouTube, Andrea writes,
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I've been following you since your days at Sun News, and since the day Rebel began.
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It's just a shame to be driven off such a large platform.
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But when I called the YouTube rep, there was no video that got us in trouble.
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We still have zero strikes in the three strikes, you're out YouTube policy system.
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Tyson writes, we all knew this day was coming, no surprises.
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Personally, this is the day I cancel my monthly premium YouTube subscription.
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Yeah, we're going to try and get our ads back, but I just think they're very whimsical.
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And as I said to our YouTube rep on the phone, if they're willing to take down President Donald Trump, I think they're pretty willing to take down Rebel News.
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On Pastor Coats, Paul writes, great to see the pastor being released.
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This is a black spot on Kenny and the UCP record.
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The government, the prosecutor, the judge, Alberta Health.
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And also the media, who were either silent or cheering his arrest.
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Where are the other pastors and priests and bishops and rabbis and followers of other religions too?
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I think this was a great shame for all of Canada.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.