Rebel News Podcast - EXCLUSIVE Tommy Robinson interview： Election “wasn't a fair fight” — “They could do this to Trump” next

00:00:00.520 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:00:03.840 Tonight, Tommy Robinson loses his election in the United Kingdom, beaten by Facebook and Twitter.

00:00:10.380 It's May 27th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:15.620 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.420 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:23.500 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:30.000 I'm recording this late Sunday night in Manchester, the United Kingdom,

00:00:40.260 the night where the election results for the European Parliament were revealed.

00:00:45.140 The election was actually last week on May 23rd, but in some strange rule,

00:00:49.620 the ballots were held for several days, I don't know, to mature like a fine wine or something.

00:00:55.820 I don't know. It strikes me as odd from a ballot integrity point of view.

00:00:59.480 And we're finally released today.

00:01:02.280 We're curious about this whole process because, of course,

00:01:04.820 the vote for the European Parliament should never have happened in the United Kingdom.

00:01:09.980 As you know, in 2016, 17.4 million Brits voted to Brexit to leave the European Union

00:01:18.880 and go, I don't know, like the UK has been for centuries, an independent country.

00:01:23.480 Yet the Conservative Party has managed to stall and stall all the way through the day they were supposed to separate, March 29th.

00:01:32.500 So this election last week was never supposed to happen.

00:01:36.940 And in a reaction to that, well, Nigel Farage came back from semi-retirement,

00:01:42.280 created a new Brexit party called the Brexit Party, and he stormed into the lead,

00:01:48.860 dominating the election, taking votes from both the Labour Party on the left and the Conservative Party on the right.

00:01:55.760 The old UKIP party that Nigel Farage used to lead lost a lot of its votes, too.

00:02:01.520 But the vote we were very curious about was Tommy Robinson.

00:02:05.420 He was running to become the first independent MEP ever elected in the United Kingdom,

00:02:11.220 running in the northwest of England, which includes the large city of Manchester.

00:02:15.680 We had, for two weeks, had our student reporter, Jessica, embedded in the campaign,

00:02:22.100 reporting from the ground there.

00:02:23.980 And it was a very interesting campaign.

00:02:25.700 I hope you had a chance to watch some of her videos.

00:02:28.280 If not, you can see them all at TommyReports.com.

00:02:32.260 It showed an interesting conflict.

00:02:35.800 Grassroots, working-class Brits seemed to love Tommy,

00:02:39.200 but there were professional-style Antifa protesters who hated him.

00:02:43.840 And, of course, there was a Muslim contingent, including the Muslim Defense League thugs, 1.00

00:02:50.200 masked, throwing bottles and bricks that attacked Tommy's campaign events.

00:02:55.160 The police, interestingly, at best kept the peace, but quite often stood back, allowing attackers to attack.

00:03:03.600 It was a kind of deplatforming that followed on deplatforming of Tommy by social media companies.

00:03:09.620 Here's what I mean by that.

00:03:10.480 Until a few months ago, Tommy Robinson had the third-largest political page in all the United Kingdom on Facebook.

00:03:18.440 More than a million followers.

00:03:20.000 He was huge on Twitter as well.

00:03:22.240 When he would say something, immediately tens or hundreds of thousands of people would see it.

00:03:27.340 And within a day, millions would get the message.

00:03:29.800 But over the last year or so, Tommy has been steadily deplatformed, being unpersoned, being disappeared,

00:03:38.440 to the point where he was running for this campaign, but couldn't get his voice out.

00:03:43.240 The mainstream media would not report on him, and citizen media, democratic media, was banned.

00:03:49.760 If that wasn't enough, I told you already how the police stood by on occasion,

00:03:54.380 allowing rioters to physically attack Tommy's campaign events.

00:03:58.380 And even when Tommy sent brochures through the mail, well, postal workers in the UK simply refused to deliver it.

00:04:06.140 Is it possible to win a campaign in the year 2019 with no Facebook, Twitter, severely restricted YouTube,

00:04:14.420 no postman, and frankly, no police?

00:04:17.340 Well, the results became known today, and the answer was no.

00:04:22.320 Historically, only about 8% or 9% was needed to win the election for an MEP in northwest England

00:04:29.280 because eight different people would be chosen from the region.

00:04:34.020 Alas, Tommy did not come close enough to the 8% or 9% needed.

00:04:38.920 He came in with under 3% of the vote.

00:04:42.060 A disappointment to him, to be sure, and we'll have an interview with him in a moment.

00:04:47.500 That's not to say that grassroots populist nationalism is dead.

00:04:51.460 Far from it.

00:04:52.580 As I mentioned, Nigel Farage's Brexit party dominated the United Kingdom.

00:04:57.400 On the continent, Matteo Salvini's party, he's the equivalent, I suppose, of Nigel Farage,

00:05:03.520 but with a stronger anti-migration bent, he received the most votes of any party in Italy.

00:05:09.560 Marine Le Pen, the national populist in France, absolutely trounced Emmanuel Macron's leftists.

00:05:18.280 So, if anything, the same in Hungary and the same in Poland.

00:05:22.560 National populism is very much alive, but in the United Kingdom, a combination of Tommy Robinson's

00:05:27.880 deplatforming and the fact that you still had two good alternatives on the ballot,

00:05:32.760 the UKIP party and the Brexit party, in my view, that conspired to keep Tommy out of office.

00:05:38.600 But here's what's so interesting about this election.

00:05:41.900 Not the fact that Tommy was deplatformed.

00:05:44.740 We've seen that.

00:05:45.880 Not the fact that you've seen Antifa attack violently.

00:05:49.600 That happens in Canada and the United States, too.

00:05:52.240 Not even the fact that the British labor unions had their unionized postal workers not deliver

00:05:57.620 brochures.

00:05:58.180 That's a little bit new, but again, we've seen a little bit of that in Canada also.

00:06:01.980 What's new is that this deplatforming was committed not against some citizen journalist or some

00:06:09.280 private outspoken citizen, but against a registered candidate for political office.

00:06:15.420 In fact, halfway through the campaign, an online payment processor, the equivalent of a MasterCard

00:06:23.720 or a Visa, it's called Stripe, simply announced it would refuse to continue processing credit cards

00:06:30.040 for Tommy Robinson's campaign.

00:06:31.680 Again, not for him personally, but for his officially registered sanctioned campaign to run for Parliament.

00:06:38.660 What is that other than foreign corporate interference with an election?

00:06:43.980 That's what's new, that it was meddling in an election.

00:06:48.600 But what was even more depressing was the complete silence or even nods of agreement from the entire

00:06:56.920 establishment, from other political parties, from the media who despised Tommy, from the civil liberties

00:07:02.840 groups who normally would squawk about such things, from people who claimed to have been concerned

00:07:07.100 about Vladimir Putin's influence in the UK.

00:07:10.180 None of them had any problem when it was San Francisco tech giants like Twitter, Facebook,

00:07:15.300 Stripe, and the rest doing it.

00:07:16.820 I find that troubling, and I find that as a premonition of what to expect in Canada and

00:07:20.960 the United States.

00:07:21.640 In fact, you could say that Twitter, Facebook, and those other companies were using Tommy Robinson

00:07:27.360 as a sort of a test case, a guinea pig.

00:07:29.400 What would happen if they deplatformed Tommy?

00:07:33.440 Could they get away with it?

00:07:34.920 They're testing limits.

00:07:36.060 And so far, the answer in the UK is, you bet they could get away with it.

00:07:39.820 Well, having a success there, do you doubt that they will come and use those same tactics

00:07:44.240 back in Canada or the United States?

00:07:47.680 There's some good news and some bad news here.

00:07:49.960 I think the good news is that the national populist spirit is alive and well in the United

00:07:54.640 Kingdom and other countries.

00:07:56.240 The bad news is the bandwidth of opinion, the Overton window is being shrunk, not by voters,

00:08:03.260 but by a handful of opaque bureaucrats and corporate, well, we don't even know who, in Silicon Valley.

00:08:13.220 First, it was Alex Jones that they went after in InfoWars, but no one stood up for them because

00:08:18.560 they were too much.

00:08:20.320 Now it's Tommy Robinson.

00:08:22.760 How much longer till they come for us at the Rebel?

00:08:26.920 Stay with us.

00:08:29.660 More ahead with Tommy himself.

00:08:45.600 Well, I'm here with the man of the hour himself, Tommy Robinson.

00:08:48.660 Tommy, not the result that you were hoping for that I thought you would get.

00:08:52.840 But I think it comes down to you have been unpersoned.

00:08:57.800 It's complete.

00:08:58.660 I said censorship one, democracy nil.

00:09:00.960 How can you fight?

00:09:02.080 There's reasons why the election campaign, there's all these rules and laws to make it

00:09:05.380 equal.

00:09:05.940 You can only spend the same as each other, all these rules and regulations.

00:09:09.680 But in this campaign, my opposition could use social media.

00:09:12.780 They could do paid advertisement, which I couldn't.

00:09:15.100 I had organizations doing paid advertisement against me, slandering, lying about me, demonized

00:09:19.000 me, and I couldn't even counter it.

00:09:20.200 But it's still 40,000 votes is quite a lot.

00:09:23.800 It's a record for an independent candidate for the European Union elections.

00:09:27.600 And it was just in the one geographic region of northwest England.

00:09:31.360 But it wasn't quite enough to punch through.

00:09:33.500 I have a theory that I heard someone on your campaign team say, is that because Nigel Farage

00:09:41.600 was running with a very strong Brexit message, and because the UKIP was still on the ballot,

00:09:46.820 and Gerard Batten has been strong on some of the other issues, like the Islamification,

00:09:51.520 that maybe some of the Tommy vote dissipated to both of those parties.

00:09:56.740 I'd say multiple things like that.

00:09:58.100 Multiple things like many people wouldn't even have known I was running.

00:10:02.040 Many people wouldn't have voted.

00:10:03.360 Many people aren't registered to vote.

00:10:04.720 By the time we found out and got our leaflets printed, by the time we went out, people

00:10:07.940 only had two days to vote.

00:10:08.880 By the time we started campaigning.

00:10:10.480 And then to campaign, we couldn't reach people.

00:10:12.220 We had no social media.

00:10:13.500 When we tried to use Royal Mail to do leaflets, they prevented and they blocked them, and

00:10:17.380 they didn't hand them out.

00:10:18.420 So we've been up against everything.

00:10:20.160 So all in all, look, we fought, we lost.

00:10:23.560 If we lost a fair fight, I'd stand there and swallow it.

00:10:26.340 But it wasn't a fair fight.

00:10:27.540 And this should be a message to democracies across the world.

00:10:30.800 Once social media giants and big tech are working with your government, it was the government

00:10:34.140 who asked big tech to remove me.

00:10:35.840 And then when I fight in a campaign against them, I'd have the ability to reach people.

00:10:39.460 We had a three-hour live stream tonight, and I thought it was very interesting.

00:10:44.860 We took a lot of comments from around the world, thousands of comments.

00:10:51.400 A lot of people from the United States follow you.

00:10:54.680 And I think they're interested in you because you're an interesting person and because they

00:10:59.000 care about the United Kingdom as an ally.

00:11:01.120 But I think you're the canary in the coal mine.

00:11:03.660 I've referred to the UK as a dystopian time machine where we can see our unhappy future

00:11:09.240 if we don't stop the path we're on.

00:11:12.000 What lessons, what warning would you have for people in America?

00:11:16.200 That they will completely, they haven't just deplatformed me.

00:11:19.100 They've removed me from Facebook.

00:11:20.460 I had the biggest, most interactive Facebook page in the country, 1.2 million followers.

00:11:24.540 They didn't just remove me, but anyone who mentions my name.

00:11:27.440 Any person that mentions my name then gets removed.

00:11:30.220 So you can't even talk about me.

00:11:31.800 Now, they could do that with anyone in America.

00:11:33.840 They could do it with Donald Trump.

00:11:35.320 If no media were allowed to talk about him, which they're not in mine, unless it's negative,

00:11:39.640 his ability in his last campaign was that he had his own platform.

00:11:44.120 He could talk himself on Twitter, on Facebook.

00:11:46.640 He could use those social media platforms to get his message to the people.

00:11:49.560 If they were removed completely and mentioning his name was banned, how would he fight another

00:11:54.840 election campaign?

00:11:55.680 How could he?

00:11:56.480 He couldn't.

00:11:57.380 He certainly wouldn't win.

00:11:58.700 So that should be a warning that they've done it to Alex Jones.

00:12:01.220 They've done it to me.

00:12:01.800 They've done it to Paul Joseph Watson.

00:12:03.520 I've broken no laws.

00:12:04.500 I've committed no crimes that have resulted in this.

00:12:08.160 It should be a warning to every American, every American watching, that they will do

00:12:12.040 it to you.

00:12:12.440 It's coming.

00:12:13.360 This is big tech taking back control after watching the Donald Trump election, after

00:12:16.780 watching the Brexit election.

00:12:18.000 This is them taking back control completely, limiting what we can say, limiting who can

00:12:22.180 hear from us.

00:12:22.860 I had an election campaign where I had no ability to talk to the people.

00:12:27.060 I had no ability to reach them.

00:12:28.900 Every avenue I tried, they blocked.

00:12:30.700 Well, you've been away from home on the campaign trail full tilt for so long, so I'm going

00:12:36.860 to let you go.

00:12:37.800 But I should say two things.

00:12:38.980 You seem, other than the fact that you didn't win, you seem in good spirits.

00:12:43.820 You seem in good shape.

00:12:45.420 I remember when you got out of prison last year, they had roughed you up.

00:12:49.100 You look fit.

00:12:50.240 You look focused.

00:12:51.800 I won't even say you look sad.

00:12:53.660 I mean, you look defiant, and I mean, you're obviously not happy, but you seem, of all

00:12:58.500 the setbacks in your life, this doesn't seem to have pushed you back because you've achieved

00:13:02.060 certain things.

00:13:02.600 So let me ask the obvious question that I know so many of our viewers will say.

00:13:06.900 What next?

00:13:08.480 Prison on the 4th of July.

00:13:10.200 So this ain't the depressing bit.

00:13:12.880 I think that they've tried everything.

00:13:15.340 They've attacked every way.

00:13:16.580 For those who don't know, I'm in court on the 4th of July for the same conviction that

00:13:20.340 I've already spent three months nearly on solitary confinement for speaking and giving

00:13:24.380 public information outside the courtroom.

00:13:26.320 The level of censorship in this country is unreal.

00:13:28.540 I don't think the establishment would be happy till I'm dead and gone completely, so

00:13:31.600 I can't make any noise.

00:13:33.320 Next is the next battle.

00:13:34.380 It's the next fight.

00:13:35.300 I've got three beautiful kids.

00:13:36.340 You've just seen me FaceTiming them.

00:13:37.760 So I'll pick myself up, and I'll keep going.

00:13:40.260 All right, mate.

00:13:41.820 Well, thanks for joining us tonight.

00:13:43.340 Congratulations on a good run, and we look forward to it.

00:13:46.120 We'll be back in London, both Jessica of our staff, and I'll be here in London covering

00:13:51.180 your trial on the 4th of July and the 5th of July.

00:13:53.680 To your followers, to the people online, to me, everywhere I go, I feel like I've got an

00:13:58.280 army behind me because of the support I get.

00:14:00.140 So a massive thank you.

00:14:01.480 It's been an experience.

00:14:03.100 The last four weeks have been an experience and a learning curve, and everything that happens

00:14:06.100 in my life, I take and try and learn from it.

00:14:08.400 I'll learn from this.

00:14:09.340 Thanks, Tommy.

00:14:10.540 Cheers.

00:14:15.900 Well, that's my report from here in the United Kingdom.

00:14:24.280 I want to show you one more thing.

00:14:26.000 It's a scrum that Tommy Robinson had when he walked into the official vote counting room.

00:14:32.800 You heard him make some of these points in his interview with me a moment ago, but watch

00:14:37.160 as he encounters the BBC and then Channel 4, another news network in the UK.

00:14:45.320 We covered this live on our election night show here from Manchester.

00:14:50.760 I can assure you that those networks, the BBC and Channel 4, did not cover them live.

00:14:55.820 I would be very interested to see what, if any of this, made it to air.

00:15:01.320 I get the feeling that none of it did.

00:15:04.020 Here, take a look.

00:15:04.780 BBC News, Tommy, are you feeling confident?

00:15:07.340 Um, I'd feel confident if it was a fair campaign.

00:15:11.320 Okay.

00:15:11.880 What have you found in there?

00:15:12.940 The fact that other people have been able to advertise on social media against me, tell

00:15:16.200 lies and smears.

00:15:17.340 Every single town and city I've gone into, the local MP has lied in the local newspaper.

00:15:21.660 I have no platform to even counter it.

00:15:23.580 I can't.

00:15:24.140 So the reason why people are allowed to spend an equal amount on a campaign is for a fair

00:15:27.740 campaign.

00:15:28.120 Everyone against me has been able to advertise on social media.

00:15:31.880 2.4 million people, they've reached advertising against me.

00:15:34.460 I'm de-platformed from all social media because what?

00:15:36.860 Because the establishment made them de-platformed.

00:15:39.520 The Labour Party contacted YouTube and made them remove me.

00:15:42.420 So I haven't had an ability to talk to people.

00:15:44.480 Even when I've tried to talk to people through leaflets, the Royal Mail and their staff and

00:15:49.340 their unions have refused to deliver them.

00:15:51.560 And that's a fact as well.

00:15:52.560 So we're putting complaints about that.

00:15:54.020 If it was a fair campaign, I'd be super confident.

00:15:56.380 It's not a fair campaign.

00:15:57.340 This has proved that you can't have a fair campaign when the establishment and the government

00:16:00.840 interfere and remove any ability you have to talk to the public.

00:16:04.420 And not just do that, they then slander you and spread lies across the whole of the North

00:16:07.820 West about me.

00:16:09.140 And my ability to talk about it, anyone who's watched my campaign, you'd have seen us getting

00:16:13.140 attacked, violently attacked, no one arrested.

00:16:15.540 You'd have seen hundreds of masked Muslims march to our demonstration to violently attack 1.00

00:16:19.600 us. 0.76

00:16:20.120 And then what do the media do?

00:16:21.340 The media spread the story across the whole country that Tommy Robinson clashes at his event,

00:16:25.320 police cars smashed.

00:16:26.300 They don't tell the story that hundreds of masked balaclava-wearing young Muslims were

00:16:30.280 targeted.

00:16:30.580 But where were there hundreds of masked balaclava-wearing?

00:16:32.820 Oh, come on, so where do you live?

00:16:34.560 You see, it's surely...

00:16:35.320 I was at your Burnley rally.

00:16:36.500 Okay, so if everyone...

00:16:37.960 See, if I had my social media, the whole country would have seen what happened.

00:16:40.480 At the Burnley rally?

00:16:41.300 No, at the Oldham rally.

00:16:42.520 Hundreds of young Muslims chanting al-Aqbar, were marched for two miles, wearing balaclavas,

00:16:47.060 telling the police who were walking them there what they're going to do when they get

00:16:49.780 there.

00:16:49.980 They then targeted my families with bricks and rocks.

00:16:53.380 And this is all orchestrated and organised, so then the media, all of you lot, you play

00:16:57.420 the propaganda machine while you run stories telling the whole country that my supporters

00:17:01.320 have rioted, which is not what happened.

00:17:03.220 And it's a complete lie. 0.96

00:17:04.380 So trying to combat your lies, all of your lies, along with a corrupt political class 0.97

00:17:09.180 and establishment, it's difficult.

00:17:11.440 I'm just happy if I've got non-voters to vote.

00:17:13.400 I'm happy that if I've politicised people from working-class communities.

00:17:17.260 I think this whole election is about the Brexit, so Nigel Farge can absolutely smash it.

00:17:23.040 But I would be excited about that if the Brexit party would talk about the issues that I feel

00:17:27.940 affect most of us in working-class communities.

00:17:29.960 They're just another politically correct party, unfortunately.

00:17:32.700 But they're great on European Union.

00:17:35.300 What do you think your chances are of winning this super-antime right now?

00:17:39.180 I don't think...

00:17:41.260 I've been talking positively through the campaign.

00:17:44.180 When I saw...

00:17:45.000 When I went up to people and I'm handing out a leaflet, and then they tell me,

00:17:47.700 aren't you a Nazi? 0.54

00:17:48.580 And I say, aren't you a Nazi?

00:17:50.440 And I hear that they've heard that from campaigns against me.

00:17:53.280 Campaigns I can't counter.

00:17:54.520 People can say what they want about me.

00:17:55.980 I'm not allowed social media.

00:17:57.340 I'm not allowed to interact with the public.

00:17:59.160 I'm not allowed to.

00:18:00.000 My name...

00:18:00.680 If you go on social media and write Tommy Robinson, you get deleted from Facebook.

00:18:05.080 Even mentioning my name.

00:18:06.580 Now, we have laws in this country.

00:18:07.640 I haven't been tried under any of them.

00:18:10.360 I've broke no laws on hate speech.

00:18:11.700 I've never been arrested under hate speech.

00:18:13.380 But yet, you're not even allowed to mention my name.

00:18:15.700 Did you watch on Question Time the other day, where a lady asked them on Question Time?

00:18:18.160 Those social media platforms argue that you've broken their rules on inciting hatred,

00:18:23.260 and that the language that you spread is Islamophobic.

00:18:25.840 What rules?

00:18:26.800 During the middle of this campaign, Stripe...

00:18:28.720 Now, Stripe is the processing payment for credit cards.

00:18:31.460 Remove my ability to fundraise for this campaign.

00:18:33.740 That's a foreign company interfering in the electoral process in this country. 0.99

00:18:37.400 We either have a fair election campaign, or we don't.

00:18:40.380 Everyone can't use social media, or no one can.

00:18:43.080 Because it's not fair.

00:18:44.080 The whole way people use...

00:18:45.760 Trump won his campaign on social media.

00:18:48.060 Brexit was won on social media.

00:18:49.760 I'm banned from all social media.

00:18:51.160 So my ability to fight a fair campaign is gone.

00:18:54.020 Orchestrated and organised by the government.

00:18:56.460 So do I think I stand a chance?

00:18:58.080 I think it's near on impossible to fight that.

00:18:59.980 How can you fight a whole establishment that are funding...

00:19:03.380 The union funded 100 billboards of lies against me.

00:19:05.760 I can't even counteract them.

00:19:07.420 But, more than anything, every community I've gone to,

00:19:10.120 every work in the house of the state I've gone to,

00:19:11.880 I've felt so loved.

00:19:12.760 I've felt more loved in this campaign than I've ever felt in my life.

00:19:15.540 So it's been fulfilling for myself.

00:19:17.140 I hope it's been fulfilling for my supporters.

00:19:20.040 I think that what this shows,

00:19:21.840 this should send a message to Donald Trump,

00:19:23.420 this should send a message to the rest of the world,

00:19:25.220 that get social media in hand.

00:19:27.440 They can't...

00:19:28.200 It cannot be used in the electoral process when you only let...

00:19:31.340 I feel like I've been fighting a fight with my hand

00:19:32.840 from a tie behind my back.

00:19:34.240 Because government agencies, governments, politicians,

00:19:36.880 all of them are lying on social media about me.

00:19:39.160 I'm not even allowed to counter it.

00:19:40.080 I'm not even allowed to talk about it.

00:19:41.240 And my supporters aren't even allowed to mention my name

00:19:42.780 when they get deleted.

00:19:43.880 It's dark.

00:19:44.480 Do you recognise it's because some of the language used on your platforms

00:19:48.260 were offensive and construed as...

00:19:50.160 No, I don't.

00:19:50.980 No, the reason why is because in this country,

00:19:52.420 we have laws against inciting hate.

00:19:54.360 If any of my speech was inciting hate,

00:19:56.520 I'd have been arrested for it.

00:19:57.700 It's basically a different opinion.

00:19:59.540 What the government don't want is a different opinion

00:20:01.140 that wakes up people.

00:20:02.380 I was reaching the public.

00:20:03.940 I think on my Facebook,

00:20:05.160 59 million people watch my videos in four weeks.

00:20:07.600 They don't want that.

00:20:08.800 And I had the ability.

00:20:09.620 And if I still had that ability now,

00:20:11.280 I'd have warped this election.

00:20:12.500 But what they've done is removed my ability.

00:20:14.720 Completely.

00:20:15.220 And this government-led...

00:20:16.600 Tom Watson from the Labour Party was the last person

00:20:18.300 who got me removed from YouTube.

00:20:20.140 YouTube actually come out and said

00:20:21.160 he hasn't broke any of our rules.

00:20:22.960 But then after government pressure,

00:20:24.820 they removed my ability completely

00:20:26.080 to reach the public and talk to him.

00:20:27.840 So I can make videos.

00:20:28.580 I made a video about Oldham,

00:20:29.580 the one that you haven't seen.

00:20:30.800 If I had social media,

00:20:31.600 you'd have seen it.

00:20:32.440 You'd have seen hundreds of men...

00:20:33.580 Say this out loud.

00:20:35.220 Hundreds of men wearing balaclavas

00:20:36.600 were marched for two miles by the police

00:20:38.820 to a family event

00:20:40.080 where they had rocks and bricks and scissors.

00:20:42.020 You can see the video.

00:20:42.940 And they attacked it.

00:20:43.980 And then the media,

00:20:44.680 rather than say hundreds of Muslims

00:20:45.920 were marched there by the police,

00:20:47.100 the media has run a headline,

00:20:48.360 clashes at Tommy Robinson event

00:20:49.600 as police cars are smashed.

00:20:51.000 They lead the public to believe

00:20:52.220 something's happened that hasn't happened.

00:20:53.960 They don't tell the truth.

00:20:55.400 And that goes for all of your cameras here. 0.97

00:20:57.200 You're all completely dishonest. 0.99

00:20:58.620 Completely dishonest. 0.99

00:20:59.380 And we don't really...

00:21:00.360 I don't think we even have journalism.

00:21:02.040 Because you don't report the facts or the truth.

00:21:03.480 You come with complete attacks.

00:21:05.140 And, yeah, so I think that for people

00:21:07.120 who will watch this and learn from it,

00:21:08.940 is that you can't have a fair campaign currently now

00:21:11.200 when the government are interfering

00:21:12.160 with social media companies.

00:21:13.300 OK, thank you.

00:21:14.080 Thank you very much.

00:21:14.600 Thank you very much.

00:21:14.660 Thank you very much.

00:21:15.920 Mr. Robbins, to Channel 4 News.

00:21:17.760 Here's the thing.

00:21:18.680 You're famous.

00:21:19.440 You're completely famous.

00:21:21.600 I'd really be grateful

00:21:22.620 if you'd answer a question.

00:21:23.680 To Channel 4.

00:21:24.880 Channel 4 News. 0.96

00:21:25.340 You're the worst. 1.00

00:21:26.120 You are absolutely the worst. 1.00

00:21:27.240 I'm sorry. 0.98

00:21:27.680 You can't leave the guy.

00:21:28.500 I'm sorry.

00:21:29.380 It's just now, Mr. Robinson.

00:21:31.020 Two people who are here to support you.

00:21:33.040 That's Tommy fighting with the media.

00:21:35.240 I think he lost this round, though.

00:21:36.880 Let's be candid.

00:21:38.220 See, if Tommy would have had his Facebook page

00:21:40.380 and Twitter page,

00:21:41.300 he could have put that clip up

00:21:42.720 and millions of people would have seen it.

00:21:44.700 Far more than would have watched

00:21:46.020 that BBC or Channel 4 broadcast.

00:21:47.700 But like a watchdog that's had a watchdog that's had a laryngectomy,

00:21:52.420 a dog that's been debarked.

00:21:55.420 Tommy can call out things and all of us can call out problems in the world.

00:22:00.480 But if they silence us, nobody hears.

00:22:04.040 I'll be back in Canada tomorrow and I'll give you more reports from our own country.

00:22:09.220 But as I always say, coming to the United Kingdom,

00:22:11.760 it's like a little trip in my own personal dystopian time machine.

00:22:15.180 What happens in the United Kingdom today will happen to us in Canada in five years.

00:22:20.520 Who will it be who is silenced and censored?

00:22:23.440 Will it be Maxime Bernier?

00:22:24.540 Who knows?

00:22:25.480 Maybe it'll even be Andrew Scheer himself.

00:22:28.120 We'll see.

00:22:29.160 Until next time, on behalf of all of us at The Rebel,

00:22:32.840 both in Canada and abroad,

00:22:34.240 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - May 28, 2019

EXCLUSIVE Tommy Robinson interview： Election “wasn't a fair fight” — “They could do this to Trump” next

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