EZRA LEVANT | 100 days since his election win, Mark Carney has nothing to show for it
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What exactly has Mark Carney done in the last hundred days since he became Prime Minister? Can you name one thing? I'll take you through it, and I'll compare it to Donald Trump's first 100 days. That's ahead.
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Hello my friends, big show today. We got a great interview with Jeff Evely. He is the hiker in
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Nova Scotia who's decided to fight the $25,000 fine and ban on hiking. And guess what? He went
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and turned himself in. We'll talk to him about it. But also, you know, it's been a hundred days
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since Mark Carney became, well, since he won the last election. In fact, it was a hundred and two
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days ago. Can I ask you a question? What exactly has Mark Carney done in the last hundred and two
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days? Or the 147 days since he became prime minister through some internal process? Can you name one
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thing? I'll take you through it and I'll compare it to Donald Trump. That's ahead. But first, let me
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Tonight, he won the election a hundred days ago. So what exactly has Mark Carney done?
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It's August 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Mark Carney was appointed prime minister 147 days ago. It was a gross inside job. He didn't
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have a seat as an MP. No one in Canada knew who he was. He hadn't lived in Canada for over a decade.
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He had three passports. He hadn't filed his taxes here in Canada, as far as we know,
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in years. Gross, gross, gross. I suppose it was democratically validated retroactively when he won
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his election with a minority, but a win nonetheless. And that was 102 days ago. But really, it's been
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almost half a year since Carney took over. And of course, much of his inner circle is from Justin
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Trudeau's inner circle. So it's not like, say, when Donald Trump took over from Joe Biden, and there
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was a total need to clean house of political appointees. I mean, half the cabinet is still
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the same as it was before. So here's the obvious question. What exactly has Mark Carney done in 147
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days? Part of the answer might be, well, he was campaigning in an election for 30 or 40 those days.
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Okay, fine. So tell me what he's done with the hundred days since he was elected, since he actually
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won the election. A hundred days. What has he done? Compare that with the incredible burst of energy
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and activity with which Donald Trump launched his presidency in his first day. No, his first hours.
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He signed a series of hugely important executive orders. Here is the Federal Register of the United
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States. It's the official list. It's in reverse order. So I want to start at the bottom and scroll up.
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182 executive orders. Look at how momentous each of them is. I'm just going to name some of them.
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Restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship. Ending radical and wasteful government
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DEI programs and preferencing. That's affirmative action. Unleashing American energy. Wouldn't you love
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to have that in Canada? Withdrawing the United States from the World Health Organization. That's
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momentous. Designating cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations
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and specially designated global terrorists. That's to deal with the drug cartels in Mexico.
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Establishing and implementing the president's Department of Government Efficiency. That's the
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doge thing that Elon Musk led for a while. Putting America first in international environmental
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agreements. Wouldn't that be nice if we could do that? Defending women from gender ideology
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extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government. That was about trans
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in sports. Re-evaluating and realigning United States foreign aid. Oh, I'm so jealous, aren't
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you? And I'm going to stop there. But by the way, did you notice that that list I just read
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out, I don't know if you saw on the screen, every single one of those was signed literally
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on the first day of his presidency, January 20th. Each one of which was momentous. Of
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course, that's just what he's done himself. 182 of these. But he's worked with Congress,
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including with the Democrats. He's worked with other countries. He's brought in a massive
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law that he calls the big, beautiful bill. That's a form of a budget. It's a immigration
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enforcement law. And by the way, along with doing all that, he's negotiating a trade deal
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almost every other day. He's brokering peace between Russia and Ukraine. I hear that he
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has a meeting with Putin next week, according to the New York Times. He has other peace deals
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that don't seem as large, including in Africa. And shortly, I think he's going to do the Middle
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East again, another Abraham Accords. He just managed, I mean, just one thing he did. He
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managed to pressure Apple to invest $100 billion more in America to make the iPhone there.
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This guy is busy. He's living like it's his last moment. And in a way it is. I mean, when
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he's done this term, he's done. I should tell you, it would take a full hour just to list
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what he has done since he became president 200 days ago, to be precise.
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So what has Mark Carney done? 147 days since he was PM, 102 days since he was elected in the general
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election. Can you name one thing? Just tell me one law he's passed. One foreign treaty, one important
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policy decision, one trade deal. Just give me one. In 147 days. How many projects of national
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importance has he commissioned? He said it would be a priority given the trade war with America. He
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said we should become our own best client. Okay, good idea. We still import an enormous amount of
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oil every day, including from America. Isn't that weird? So where's the oil pipeline? He said it was
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time for a Team Canada approach on things like pipelines and big industrial projects. Show me one.
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One that has been approved, let alone started. Show me the internal free trade amongst provinces.
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Show me. Show me a trade deal anywhere other than the absurd idea that we would join the European Union
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as some sort of substitute for being able to get a deal with the United States. Carney loves Europe.
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I'm sure he does. He has two European passports. He has a house in London, but that's just not
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how it works. You can't just say, oh, we're going to forget about the world's largest market right
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next to us. Here's a story today. Canadian steel has no practical foreign markets beyond the United
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States, says Algoma CEO. But remember, Mark Carney told us who really needs steel anyways, not us.
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Then secondly, what we're going to do is make sure not that the government pays, not that we as
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taxpayers pay, but the large polluters pay. And so what happens. Does that not ultimately trickle
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down? No, because what the big companies are producing, by and large, are not products that
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we are consuming. There's some element of that. But by and large, you know, a steel company, how much
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steel are you using these days, Todd? I mean, not as much, not as much. Sorry. So that's core.
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I guess no one needs wood either, even though Canada has probably more than any other country in the
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world with maybe the exception of Russia. Let me read this story. Tariffs force shutdown layoffs at
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New Brunswick plant trigger Holt Relief Fund, Arbeck Forest products to shut down Miramichi plant for
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six weeks, affecting 113 employees, permanently eliminating 29 jobs. And that's just one small
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story in one small newspaper in one town. I don't know if you saw the other day, but Trump is not
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even picking up the phone for Canadians. I don't think he's talked to Carney in weeks.
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They're just not even bothering talking to Canada. Do you see this embarrassing clip?
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Well, we're going to see. You know, I didn't like what they said, but you know, that's that's their
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opinion. I didn't like that. Not a deal breaker, but we haven't spoken to Canada today. He's called
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and we'll we'll see. I remember that Canada and the U.S. were in pretty heavy duty negotiations a few
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weeks ago. And then Mark Carney decided that was the time to announce a massive retroactive tax on
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U.S. social media platforms operating in Canada. Trump was ambushed by it. It was so weird, the timing
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of it. And Trump cut off negotiations. Remember that? August 1st is going to come and we will have most of
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our deals finished, if not all. We haven't really had a lot of luck with Canada. I think Canada could
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be one where they'll just pay tariffs, not really a negotiation. We're working very diligently with
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Europe, the EU, which covers a lot of turrets, you know, a lot of turrets, a lot of countries.
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And that's the big one right now. We have the confines of a deal with China.
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We have it. We have it really. We don't have a deal with Canada. We haven't been focused on it.
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When your letters go out, they're a page and a half. That means they have a deal. It's done.
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They pay that tariff. And that is a contract, essentially. And they can come into the country.
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They're going to pay a tariff. I'm going to keep it minimal. I'm going to keep it. You know,
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I'm not looking to hurt countries. I could I could do that, too, but I'm not looking to do that.
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And then Carney decided to do a little bit of freestyle diplomacy in the Middle East. We have
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no skin in the game. We have no military that can project force over there. We have no diplomatic or
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commercial sway. Nobody cares what we say over there, except Hamas, which loves any Western
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power supporting them. And indeed, that's what Carney did. He announced his support for Hamas by saying
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he will recognize Palestine as a country next month. For the reasons I cited earlier, Canada intends
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to recognize the state of Palestine at the 80th session of the United Nations General Assembly
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in September 2025. This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority's commitment to much
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needed reform, including commitments by the Palestinian Authority's President Abbas to fundamentally
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reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026, in which Hamas can play no part,
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and to demilitarize the Palestinian state. Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong
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democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful
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and hopeful future. I spoke today with President Abbas at length to reaffirm his commitment.
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Canada reiterates that Hamas must immediately release all hostages taken in the horrific terrorist
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attack of October 7th, that Hamas must disarm, and that Hamas must play no role in the future
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governance of Palestine. Canada will always steadfastly support Israel's existence as an independent state
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in the Middle East living in peace and security. Any path to lasting peace for Israel also requires a
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viable and stable Palestinian state, and one that recognizes Israel's inalienable right to security
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and peace. Oh, so Donald Trump is trying to pressure Hamas into releasing the hostages and laying down
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arms. Trump is working with Lebanon at the same time to get rid of Hezbollah. He's working with the
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Saudis and half a dozen others, including Egypt and Syria. You can imagine how complex it is,
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and only America has the ability to do that, no one else. And Carney just comes out and without
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consultation, without notice, just gives a gift, a reward to Hamas. At the same time as Francis
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Emmanuel Macron and UK's Keir Starmer do, they have no skin in the game either. No one cares what they say.
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They're really just doing it for domestic purposes, which is what Mark Carney's doing. But it gives
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Hamas a huge diplomatic win. And it was that next day that Hamas decided they didn't have to do
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anything at all. They were going to stop their negotiations completely. They were getting their
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victories diplomatically. Carney was just looking to distract Canadians from his failures and to pander
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to the growing Islamist votes in Canada. But Trump was ambushed yet again. So yeah, are you surprised that
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Trump has slapped a 35% tariff on Canada and is making Canada wait to re-engage? And can you blame
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him? I mean, they're only 24 hours in a day. And Trump doesn't seem to take a lot of vacations.
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By the way, like I say, today is Trump's 200th day in office. And look at all the things he's doing,
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like this very week. He's trying to resolve Ukraine, Russia, something I believe he can do,
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something that genuinely would improve the world, that should earn a Nobel Peace Prize, but it won't,
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since that's decided by left-wing Nordic politicians who hate Trump. Who cares about them? Imagine ending
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a war in Europe, saving hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides. And imagine if Trump can also
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get the Abraham Accords round two done. So yeah, why on earth would Trump, who is living like he's got
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just hours to get his life's work done? He's not wasting a minute. Why would he
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engage with Carney's negotiators again? Is it that important to him? Does he care about Canada that
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much? Enough to get that Carney, embarrass him and ambush him again and again? Or this diplomatic genius,
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Doug Ford? What's the general impression of Trump in Canada?
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He's probably the most disliked politician in the world in Canada, because he's attacked his
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closest family member. And that's the way we look upon it. And when I talk to the governors and senators
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and Congress people, even Republicans totally disagree, but they're too scared to come out and
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say anything because the president will go after him outside of a few senators. And I want to thank
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them for coming out and standing with not just American people, but their closest friends and allies,
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which is Canada. And again, we love the Americans. It's unfortunate President Trump
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decided to go down this road. You know, I try to ignore Doug Ford most of the time. He's awful.
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I'm embarrassed for him as a conservative, but I know the NDP and the liberals are worse.
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But actually here, I don't think they would be worse. This is just weird spite and a total lack
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of emotional control. Whose interest is Doug Ford serving here and how? How does insulting Trump help
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anyone? Is that going to make Trump pick up the phone to Carney faster? Does insulting Trump typically
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get him to give you what you want? You know, this reminds me of how Doug Ford continuously
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condemned and insulted Pierre Polyev in the last federal election. Now, I don't actually think any real
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conservatives would change their vote because of what Doug Ford said. I don't think they respect him that
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much. And I don't think any liberal would change their vote based on Doug Ford either. But it showed how
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Ford puts his petty personal vendettas and insults above the public interest. What a loser. But back to Mark
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Carney, it's just weird. I mean, America is more important to Canada's economy than the rest of the
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world combined. Carney's trying all these weird things like talking about China and giving a fairy
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deal to China. And I don't understand his Mexican gambit as if a Canada-Mexico trade deal would be
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important to either country. Canada-Mexico trade is about $50 billion a year, which is not nothing. I
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mean, that's something, of course. But Canada-US trade is $1.3 trillion. It is 25 times more.
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What a joke. But look at these headlines anyways. I mean, OK, maybe it could work. Really? Look at this.
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Canada courts Mexico as Trump escalates tariff fight. Canadian ministers push energy ties with
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Mexico ahead of thorny USMCA review. OK. And here's Mexico's response. Mexico's shine bomb,
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that's the president, says no need for a bilateral trade deal with Canada. I say again, what has Carney
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done in 102 days or 147 days, whenever you want to start measuring? He said nothing of importance
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internally. No laws passed. No important policies announced. Nothing about expanding our markets,
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as if that were possible without America. Nothing about dealing with Trump, which was his essential
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What exactly did elbows up mean? To be a tough negotiator? I think that's what it meant.
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To be the guy who could handle Trump? We don't have a tough negotiator. We don't have a weak negotiator
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because we have no negotiator. Because the Americans won't even meet with us or take our phone calls.
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Maybe because we announced an internet tax. Maybe because Carney endorsed Palestine and Hamas.
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Or maybe because Trump just really wants to do harm to us. I don't know. I hope not. Maybe Trump just wants
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to swallow up our steel industry and our car industry and he doesn't mind having 35% tariffs in place. Maybe he
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prefers Carney because Carney is someone who is anti-American. So it makes it easier for him to be
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anti-Canadian, to take advantage of us, to move our core industries down to the US. I don't know if
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you've been watching these past 200 days, but Trump has had a parade of foreign leaders and foreign
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businessmen come to the White House to announce how many tens or hundreds of billions of dollars they are
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going to invest in America. Japan, Korea, Arabian countries. He's just a sample.
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But I just signed the largest trade deal in history. I think maybe the largest deal in history with Japan.
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And that was done with Japan. They had their top people here and we worked on it long and hard and
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it's a great deal for everybody. I always say it has to be great for everybody. It's a great deal.
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A lot different from the deals in the past. I can tell you that. But we're doing really well as a
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country. We're strong. We have a lot of money flowing in. The tariffs are kicked in better than
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anybody other than me and a few of the people in the room. Those things are $750 billion,
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$600 billion, $600 billion opening up the country. We are agreeing that the tariff straight across
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for automobiles and everything else will be a straight across tariff of 15 percent.
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So we have a tariff of 15 percent. We have the opening up of all of the European countries, which
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I think I could say were essentially closed. I mean, you weren't exactly taking our autos.
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You weren't exactly taking our agriculture. And then you would have smaller things. But for the
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most part, it was closed. And now it's open. It's open for our companies to go in and do a good job
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with it. I think you'll like them. I think you'll like it. And we will, very importantly, they'll be
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investing a lot of money. But the military is a big number, but that's one number we're not determining.
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It's going to be whatever it is. But they're going to be purchasing hundreds of billions of dollars
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worth of military equipment. They're very important. They're going to purchase $750 billion worth of
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energy. So that's going to be great. And $600 billion worth of investments into the United States
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over and above what they have. And I think that basically concludes the deal. I mean, those are the
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main factors. I don't think there are too many other factors. It is unthinkable that Carney would
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do that or that any big Canadian companies would say that. I mean, I don't even know if it's possible
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what big Canadian companies are left. The automakers in Canada are all branch plants. Ford, Chrysler,
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GM, Honda, Toyota. I don't even know what factories are left. But they're not Canadian car companies.
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They're Canadian subsidiaries of US or global car companies. They're not actually Canadian. The steel
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companies, I guess, are Canadian. But you really couldn't imagine Canadians saying they're going to
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invest tens of billions in the US. Although a thousand smaller Canadian companies are just sort of
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doing it, just sort of moving there to be out of the terrace. Oh, you might have heard one big company
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called Brookfield that moved from Canada to the US. That's the company that Mark Carney used to lead.
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So yeah, can you tell me what Mark Carney has done, what he's achieved in 147 days as PM? No budget,
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no laws passed, no trade deal, just a pledge to support Hamas and Palestine. Hey, elbows up everyone.
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Well, they call it a climate lockdown. I know that sounds impossible. That sounds too far-fetched,
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too paranoid. But it has happened in Nova Scotia, of all places, a place nominally led by a conservative
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governor, Tim Houston. I'm quite surprised, but I'm also completely unsurprised. It's fire season.
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Indeed, it is across the country. Here in Toronto, there's so much smoky haze in the skies. You might
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remember about a month ago, we spoke to a US congressman complaining about Canadian forest
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management practices as encouraging these kinds of fires. Of course, arson is also to blame,
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but only Nova Scotia has announced a ban on any human beings going into the forest, even on your own
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land. And if you do so, it's a $25,000 penalty. Remember yesterday, we talked a little bit about
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this and we showed you a video of one man showing the absurdity of what is considered a forest and
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what is not. Here's a little flashback of that really cheeky video that we showed you yesterday.
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Take a look. Hey everybody, Jeff Evely here. I'm in Petersfield Provincial Park in the most
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tyrannical province of Canada, which is Nova Scotia, with my fuzzy friend Axel, where we walk pretty much
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every single morning. And here you can see that this area is taped off because that trail is the woods.
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But this area is not taped off because that's not the woods.
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And there is a sign here that says trail closed due to extreme fire hazards. So that is the woods.
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Well, I thought that was really well done. There's a great sense of humor there. And of course there's
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no way to fight a political battle better than with mockery and humor and ridicule, which this
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law so richly deserves. We spoke to Marty Moore, who works with the Justice Center for Constitutional
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Freedoms, who says he's standing by to help the man in that video. But we thought we would bring the
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man on himself directly. His name is Jeff Evely, and he joins us now live from Nova Scotia via Zoom.
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Jeff, great to meet you. And I want to compliment you on a very compelling video. Your use of humor
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to show the absurdity of it all, I think, has been winning hundreds of thousands of hearts. That really
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has gone viral, hasn't it? You know, I haven't checked in a few hours, but the last time I did,
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it was at about 759,000, I think. And 1 million is technically viral, but that's kind of an American
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standard too. So it's more like Canadian megaviral, I think, approaching American viral.
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You know, it's fun to have things go viral on Twitter because so many people give their replies.
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And I always learn things from sort of the crowd. People chip in this information or they come up with
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a funny one-liner. Has there been any reaction to it that surprised you? Or have other people in the
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public square responded? Amongst those three-quarters of a million people, has any response stood out?
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I think just the overall response is really what stands out. I was not expecting anything like
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that kind of trending to take place. I was just kind of blowing off steam. I knew when they imposed
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these proclamations this time that I was going to defy the ban and take the fine. But I was, you know,
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I'm just a man. So I was pretty irritated when they first did this. And I took a couple of days
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to kind of collect myself before I went out and dealt with that confrontation. But I'm happy to report
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that it went well. Now, I sense that you're someone, and I think if I know a little bit about you,
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you were also someone who took a civil liberties stand against the pandemic lockdowns. Is that
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correct? What can you, I mean, and I think it shows. The fact that you have the courage to call
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this out. The fact that you're willing to stand up to authority. It doesn't surprise me that someone
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who stood up against pandemic lockdowns would stand up against climate lockdowns. Tell our viewers
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a little bit about what you did during the pandemic.
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Actually, I was released from the military medically in 2021 and took possession of my house
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here in Nova Scotia on 1 November 2021, which was the same day the vaccine passports came into effect.
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I was denied service by the Legion from which I bought my house within crawling distance. And
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I bought a Legion hat that said, lest we forget. And I crossed out the last because these freedoms are
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the legacy of the fallen. And I started defying mask mandates. I got arrested a couple of times,
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fined, charged. I beat all those charges in court, self-representing. When I saw the trucker convoy,
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I said, that's where I need to be. So I headed for Ottawa. I was one of the veterans who was standing
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on guard for thee after we took the fence down around Canada's war monument. In fact, I ran the shift
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schedule for it. And I've also been involved. I was a speaker at Rolling Thunder where I was
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re-arrested for breaching my conditions from the convoy. I was the sergeant major on that parade.
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I marched with James Topp. I was a co-organizer nationally for the One Million March for Children.
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And I'm still fighting two court cases right now. And apparently I've just taken on a third.
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So I've been very busy in the last few years. Oh yeah. And I ran in the last election as a federal
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candidate for the People's Party. Well, you really sound like our kind of guy. And you're
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someone who put your life on the line for our freedoms in the Canadian forces that showed the
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degree of dedication to these ideas that you would put yourself in a position to risk at all.
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I'm therefore not so surprised that you have been a constant thorn in the side of tyrannical authority.
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And I use that term on purpose because I think, well, we know for a fact that the invocation of
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the Emergencies Act was unconstitutional and illegal, but it took some guts to say it.
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I detect a commonality. So many pundits and so many ordinary people are saying,
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just get with the program. You don't know how bad it is. Just do what the premier says,
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even though there may be no rational connection between hikers and fires or fishing and buyers.
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I mean, just do it. Are you not part of the team? Like there's that same appeal to authority,
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that same appeal to conformity. I feel like I'm watching a rerun.
00:29:25.620
Yeah. And when I went to basic training in 2001, I was trained that I have a duty to defy
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illegal orders. And how am I going to know if that order is legal? Well, I use my own judgment.
00:29:38.740
And am I going to be protected when they come after me for defying it? No, I'm going to go in
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front of a judge and they're going to rule on the legality of that order. And if I'm wrong,
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then I end up charged under the National Defense Act. And we expect our young Canadians to take on that
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burden because that is what separates us from Nazis. So I'm I'm quite happy to to take these risks.
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It's kind of something that I've been doing for a while. And here in the West, you know,
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thus always to tyrants. So we stand up to tyrants. That's that's what our soldiers do.
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That's been the way since Alexander the Great. And it's not going to stop on my watch.
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Well, I'm so glad I find the way you're talking so encouraging because for every freedom fighter,
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there are 100 people who are conflict averse and would rather just go with the flow. But it only
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takes a small number of men to stand and be counted. We saw that during the trucker convoy. So I
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congratulate you for your thoughtfulness and your thoughtful resistance. Now, you mentioned that
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earlier today, if I understood you right, you actually turned yourself in, you brought yourself
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to the attention of authority, and you received a fine not for 25 grand, but I think you said $28,872.50,
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which sounds like a very precise number. And I have never heard of a fine so large in my life,
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other than for like a financial crime or something to be fine 20, almost 29 grand for going in the
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forest. It's almost what is absurd. It's almost unbelievable. Tell us what happened. I understand
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you have a video clip that you can show us too. So I actually called the Department of Natural Resources
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where the offices are for the conservation officers who would issue this fine. And I let the supervisor
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know that I was coming to their office on Mountain Road, which is not in the woods. But out behind
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that office, that is the woods. So I let them know what I was going to do ahead of time. I went down
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without putting my camera in their face right away or anything like that. And I let the guys stay off
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camera when they wanted to be. And I let them know, I said, look, Tim Houston is the target here. I have a
00:32:06.100
beef with him. Not you guys. You're just caught in the middle. And I recognize that. So I'm going to
00:32:11.380
try to make this as easy as I can for you. I even came down to your office and they were pretty good.
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They were pretty courteous and professional. I had a nice chat with them. You know, we may not agree,
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I guess. But here in Canada, that's what makes us a civilized nation is that we can disagree civilly.
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And that seems to be what's lost in the last several years is we've lost our civility.
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So what did you do? Did you like set foot? And did you say, hey, guys, watch me. I'm going to set
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foot in the forest now. And you stepped in and sort of did a tap dance or something like how did they
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did they personally observe you breaking the rule and and and they yielded to your wish to be
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ticketed? Is that how it went down? That is exactly how it went down. We all went out back
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and there's a grassy area before you come to the woods. So I walked to the edge of that grassy
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area while three of the conservation officers watched me and recorded me and I recorded on
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my phone as well. And then I stepped into the wooded area and I just kind of did a short circuit
00:33:15.860
around the corner of the wooded area and came back out. It was probably a grand total of about 90 seconds
00:33:21.060
inside the woods. And then I went back into the office with them while they wrote up my summons.
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So no handcuffs or anything like that. It was all more gentlemanly.
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Yes. And that is something that we value in the West.
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Of course. Yeah. And Nova Scotia is a pretty friendly province. Now, you did take some footage.
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Let's show a little bit to our people now. Hey, everybody. Jeff Evely here out in Nova Scotia on
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Mountain Road in Cox Heath. And as you can see behind me, this is the woods. But over here,
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this is not the woods. This is the Department of Natural Resources where the conservation officers work,
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who issued $25,000 fines for going in the woods.
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Not bad. I'm Jeff Evely. I called earlier. I spoke to somebody earlier about the woods ban.
00:34:26.820
And I understand that you guys issue $25,000 fines right now for anybody who goes in.
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I'm going to go in the woods over here. I don't want to make any trouble for you guys. I took this
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to court the last time I did it. They said I didn't have standing because I wasn't fine. So there was
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no money involved. Okay. So I want to challenge this order in court. And the only way for me to do
00:34:48.180
that is to get the fine. So I'm not trying to make trouble for you guys. Okay. I just want a piece
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of Tim Houston. And I want to be as accommodating and nice as I can be. I'm just going to... Okay,
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so I'm ordering you to not. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I understand. Roger that. I'm doubling the fines
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right now. Okay. That sounds good. All right. So he has to be in the woods. Yeah. I haven't seen a
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violation yet. Well, they're very nearby. I thought instead of crossing the road, I would just go in
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the back here just for safety purposes. And, um, you know, we can do it like that. Does somebody
00:35:29.780
want to follow me out there or, um, and, and, you know, um, yeah, it would be good to do a witness.
00:35:37.220
And if it's okay with you, I would like to, um, record a video. If you don't want to be on camera,
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I can keep you off it, but I think that it's in the interest of justice that we provide a fulsome
00:35:48.420
record for the court, um, because of the precedent centered nature of this case. So, um, I can keep
00:35:55.380
you off camera, keep your name on it and all that stuff, whatever works for you, but we'll be in
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court. So, yep, we'll be in court. So we might as well have a fulsome record, right?
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So you have to go in the woods. Yes. Sure. You want to show me where the woods is out back here?
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Or wherever you want. We still have to suggest that they don't. I understand. Yeah. Yeah.
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He just ordered me. He said he's going to double my fine. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to defy that order.
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Nothing personal. Okay. So whatever happens after you leave here. Yeah.
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Nothing personal. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So one more time. This is the DNR office on Mountain Road
00:36:39.140
in Coxete, Nova Scotia. And this is not the woods, but back here, this is the woods. So
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I have a couple of conservation officers with me right now who are not on camera, but have advised
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me that if I go into the woods, if I defy their orders to go into the woods, then I will be fined.
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And they also said that they would double my fine to $50,000. So I'm going to walk down here
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and go into these woods. I don't know that there's a good spot to do this, but I'm just going to make
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this as painless as I can for those guys and go in here.
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And they have me on camera as well. Walking in the woods.
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And maybe there's an easier way out of here than I came in. Let's try this.
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Okay. Um, and I didn't ask, but did you write the ticket already or back out front at the reception
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desk there? Okay. If I bring my camera, keep you guys off it. Okay. I'll see you in there guys.
00:38:14.180
Thank you. This is not the woods. Hi, um, I was just out back with the three gentlemen there. They
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said they would meet me back in here. So she's gone to get them.
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So the order would have to go long form and then put us off months in advance for court times. So
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we just do a sought for entering the woods without a forest travel permit when proclamation is effect.
00:39:04.420
You have a court plea date. Um, yeah, your due date is the 12th of September. So it's a lot quicker just the ticket.
00:39:17.700
Okay. So this is an SOT and that is for summons to accused. What is this?
00:39:29.380
Forced act 25 sub one. Um, fine is $28,870,250.
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Okay. Sounds good. All right. Um, thanks very much.
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Gentlemen, I appreciate your courteous approach. Nice chatting with you.
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Oh, this is still not the woods. So here we go. Whoa. I have a ticket here for let's see if you can
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see that $28,870.50 for victimizing somebody. Okay. So more to follow.
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Well, listen, it is unusual to find someone who will walk towards the pain.
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And to walk towards a possible fine of $28,872. I mean, that's what the piece of paper says.
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And unless you win, that's an enormous hole in the bottom of your boat.
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Um, I presume you're the first one in the province who has been charged. I,
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unless you know of anyone else, um, that's quite a dramatic step you've taken.
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You are now at the front line of this battle for possibly a year or more to come.
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Um, and it's not the only fright, uh, the only front on which I'm fighting a battle either.
00:41:02.420
Um, but I, I think part of the strategy that we're seeing coming from our elites is to wear us down.
00:41:07.060
Um, it's just kind of, uh, um, you know, people will give up after so much time and, uh, there,
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there needs to be somebody to keep up the fight. It's a, it's a battle of resiliency at this point.
00:41:17.540
So, um, I think if we can just outlast them, it's probably going to be a few more years,
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but if we can just outlast them, then this agenda is going to fall apart on its own.
00:41:26.340
Well, Jeff, one of the things I learned from the pandemic and, and we
00:41:30.420
crowdfunded for a number of people who got in trouble for not doing the arrive can app or not
00:41:36.180
having this six feet of separation. And, um, we made a decision to take every single case that
00:41:42.820
came our way within reason. So in the end we had 3000 cases. And I think one of the strengths
00:41:50.260
of that strategy was it overwhelmed the system. The system is based on 90% of people pleading guilty
00:41:56.740
and the government just prosecuting the hard cases. But I think that if a hundred different
00:42:03.060
people in Nova Scotia did what you did, it would break it. And people would say, this is absurd.
00:42:08.980
We have to come up with something that makes more sense. I mean, I think of the restaurants in every
00:42:15.060
city, there was like one or two restaurants that refused to shut down during the lockdown. But if,
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if a hundred had made that decision, they couldn't have gone after it all.
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Wherever there was strength in numbers, there was legal success. Have you heard of anyone else who was
00:42:30.420
willing to potentially be sacrificed on this fight that would join you? Because I think that would be
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the quickest way to end this battle is having 99 allies. You know, I, I haven't really heard from
00:42:45.060
anyone and I didn't really solicit for any support. Um, I decided to just do it as an individual because,
00:42:52.740
uh, wildfire starts with a spark. So, um, that's, uh, that's what I aim to be in this. And, uh,
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hopefully I set a good example in terms of how you should deal with the authorities under these
00:43:04.420
circumstances. Well, it sounds like you were very professional. Um, yesterday we spoke with Marty
00:43:09.780
Moore, who let us know that if you needed legal assistance, he and the justice center would be there.
00:43:16.260
Otherwise I would normally offer you our support for crowdfunding. And by the way, if for some
00:43:21.060
reason the justice center can't help you do give us a call, this is the kind of thing we like to do.
00:43:26.660
If there's any other help we can provide you even journalistically, uh, let us know, but it sounds
00:43:31.780
like you have a good, it sounds like you're a bit of a citizen journalist yourself. In fact, at least your
00:43:36.500
viral videos look that way. Um, I don't know if I had to guess, I mean, I haven't reviewed the law
00:43:43.220
deeply, but it seems to me that it is overheated. It's overdone. And I don't know if you remember
00:43:49.860
this, Jeff, but when the federal court struck down the emergencies act is illegal. One of the
00:43:55.780
reasons they said is remember in the emergencies act that let the government seize family bank accounts
00:44:02.420
willy nilly, no process at all. If a dad was protesting, the mom on a joint account got hit
00:44:09.220
too. And there she is in Safeway and her credit card doesn't work. One of the specific things that
00:44:14.660
judge said is it was not narrowly tailored. And it was that it was, it was an overbroad
00:44:24.660
application of the law. There's something in law called the Oaks test where the government is allowed
00:44:30.500
to violate your rights, but only if it is rationally connected to the purpose. If it minimal, minimally
00:44:37.540
impairs our rights. Like it has to be the least abusive law possible. That's what the courts say.
00:44:43.300
And the way this law sounds like it goes, it's maximum punishment, no reasonableness at all.
00:44:51.700
There, there are better ways to achieve this aim. It sounds like it is just the worst of the worst
00:44:57.300
lessons from the lockdown. If I had to predict, and it's always dangerous to try, I would predict that
00:45:03.940
this will be struck down as unconstitutional. And if it is, then let me be the first to thank you
00:45:10.420
for being the human crash test dummy, willing to sacrifice himself to free the rest of us. I have to
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tell you, I admire the fact that you would take this risk personally. Praise from Caesar. Thank you, Ezra.
00:45:25.940
Um, and, uh, uh, I, I guess, um, what I would say to that is, um, that, uh, um, I mean, it has to be
00:45:38.100
somebody. It's like, I'll say it again, like one spark is what starts a, a wildfire. Um, and, um, you know,
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I, uh, uh, I've spent my whole life, um, standing on guard for thee and I'm not sure I know how to do anything
00:45:50.820
else. So, uh, there I am. Well, it sure is nice to meet you. If there are any other steps, let us
00:45:56.980
know. We'll cover it journalistically. If there's a hearing, I think we'll send a journalist to cover
00:46:01.220
it. I might go myself. I'd love to get back out there to Nova Scotia. If there are any other public
00:46:07.060
demonstrations of any store, we'd like to cover it. And of course we'll rely on our friends from
00:46:11.700
the justice center to help you on the legal side. And so we'll stand back and watch them with
00:46:16.980
admiration too. Uh, if for some reason they can't help, we'll fill the void. I'm impressed with what
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you're doing and it, it's encouraging that there are men who are willing to stand in the gap and
00:46:30.020
thank you for that. But then again, given your history of service to this country,
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it's not that surprising that here you are. So thank you again. And thanks for joining us today.
00:46:39.300
My pleasure, Isaac. Thanks for having me. It's our pleasure. There you have it. Jeff Evely,
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a man who's willing to test this unconstitutional law in Nova Scotia. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:47:01.460
Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me, Jacques Boucher writes, if we get fined for hiking,
00:47:06.740
I'm curious to know what the actual arsonist got. That's a great point. You know, I never thought of
00:47:12.340
that. In Canada, our laws are so lenient. Our justice system is such a joke. I bet if someone
00:47:19.540
were actually arrested for arson, they would not get a $28,000 fine like Jeff Evely. That is a great
00:47:26.020
point. Thank you for sharing that. Zuber Bueller says, I wonder if this premier, along with everyone
00:47:31.460
on his cabinet, will also adhere to these ridiculous rules. Hey boy, you're asking good questions. And that
00:47:36.900
reminds me of during the pandemic, the lockdowns. Remember we had this project where we tried to
00:47:42.660
find politicians breaking their own rules, sneaking out, going on trips when telling everyone not to
00:47:49.060
do that. That's obviously happening here too. These rules are so stupid. No one believes in them.
00:47:55.060
They're just the government flexing their power. I bet the government is breaking their own rules. I bet.
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Aylmer Steph says, time for a freedom convoy in Nova Scotia. Hey, not a bad idea, but I sure enjoyed
00:48:07.220
talking to Jeff Evely today. Don't you think? Boy, that guy knows how to communicate. You can tell he's
00:48:12.420
been a political activist for a while. I wish him good luck. Well, that's our show for the day.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,