Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ A $10M class action lawsuit settles, requiring a hospital to rehire everyone they fired for not taking the jab

00:00:00.060 Hello, my Rebels. Very interesting case out of the state of Illinois.

00:00:03.660 A $10 million class action lawsuit settlement by a major network of hospitals

00:00:09.440 that refused to grant religious exemptions for the jab.

00:00:13.520 Well, they just agreed to pay $10 million to those people they fired

00:00:17.180 and to rehire them all and to change their policies.

00:00:21.040 Very interesting story. I'll take you through what happened and what didn't happen

00:00:25.640 and whether maybe this might spread.

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00:00:56.780 All right, here's today's show.

00:01:12.760 Tonight, a $10 million class action lawsuit settles, requiring a hospital to rehire everyone they fired

00:01:22.240 for not taking the jab.

00:01:24.000 It's July 29th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:26.560 You're ready for freedom! 0.97

00:01:29.880 Shame on you, you sensorious bug! 0.98

00:01:33.080 Hi, everybody.

00:01:43.540 I'm traveling for work, and so I'm not in my normal studio at our world headquarters in Toronto.

00:01:49.860 Normally, I sit there, and we have a fancy backdrop, and I type up my script, and I load it in a teleprompter,

00:01:55.420 so I read it sort of smoothly.

00:01:57.620 I'm not in my studio, and I don't have a teleprompter, so I'm going off the top of my head.

00:02:02.100 And I did write some notes on my phone that I'm going to read, and I hope you'll forgive me for not being as buttoned down as I sort of am.

00:02:10.120 I also left my jacket in Toronto, so I'm just wearing a shirt.

00:02:15.160 Anyhow, enough of that.

00:02:16.020 I want to tell you some news that's actually pretty important, and a little bit surprising to me,

00:02:20.940 because I know that we're the anti-journalists.

00:02:23.420 We're the countervailing journalists.

00:02:25.300 You know our motto, telling the other side of the story.

00:02:27.500 So my job is to be skeptical, but that said, every once in a while, you, I guess, by human nature,

00:02:34.780 you think, well, maybe the other side is right on certain things, and here's what I mean.

00:02:38.740 I was skeptical that you could sue institutions for firing you for not being jabbed.

00:02:45.940 I thought, well, you know, in Canada, our judges certainly haven't sided with workers who want to object to taking the jab.

00:02:53.340 I haven't seen it.

00:02:54.960 In fact, other than Arthur Pawlowski's dramatic victory in the Alberta Court of Appeal about two weeks ago,

00:03:00.680 I really haven't seen a great victory using our constitutional rights.

00:03:05.420 So I thought, well, maybe there just won't be one.

00:03:07.640 And then more to the point, so many labor unions in Canada simply rolled over

00:03:12.400 because the unions agreed with the company bosses to force their union members to get jabbed.

00:03:20.000 So I think in many cases there wasn't a fight.

00:03:22.940 I had come to the belief, and shame on me, that you just couldn't sue if you were fired for not being jabbed.

00:03:30.420 But here's an important case out of the state of Illinois.

00:03:33.580 Well, that's where the great city of Chicago is, a large health care network fired staffers who didn't want the jab

00:03:43.960 and refused to give them a religious exemption.

00:03:47.980 They wouldn't even consider it.

00:03:51.120 They were warned in late 2021 about that.

00:03:54.620 They ignored the warning.

00:03:55.760 Well, to their peril, a large class action lawsuit was filed against them.

00:04:01.260 And today, they signed an agreement to pay out more than $10 million,

00:04:07.260 which tells me if they're signing an agreement to pay out $10 million voluntarily,

00:04:12.580 they were terrified of a much larger loss if the matter went to trial.

00:04:17.840 Now, I'm going to read from my phone a little bit of the exact wording because I haven't memorized it.

00:04:22.380 But here's the press release put out by their class action lawyers.

00:04:26.960 Health care workers settled COVID shot mandate for $10.3 million.

00:04:30.940 And those are real U.S. dollars, not our Canadian mini bucks.

00:04:33.880 Let me read to you from the press release.

00:04:35.980 It's a self-serving press release.

00:04:37.580 Obviously, the law firm is pretty pleased with itself.

00:04:39.900 But they do append an actual copy of the deal.

00:04:43.760 And you can see that the health network has signed on to it.

00:04:47.660 A deal is a deal.

00:04:48.900 Well, they're crying uncle and offering $10 million.

00:04:51.960 Let me read from the press release.

00:04:54.380 Today, Liberty Council, that's the name of this class action law firm.

00:04:58.800 They're obviously interested in liberty issues.

00:05:01.840 Settled the nation's first class-wide lawsuit for health care workers over a COVID shot mandate.

00:05:07.340 For more than $10.3 million,

00:05:09.120 the class action settlement against North Shore University Health System

00:05:13.900 is on behalf of more than 500 current and former health care workers

00:05:18.260 who were unlawfully discriminated against

00:05:20.420 and denied religious exemptions from the COVID shot mandate.

00:05:25.460 The agreed-upon settlement was filed today in the Federal Northern District Court of Illinois.

00:05:30.740 And that's that document I showed you, the health network's own signature on it.

00:05:34.680 As a result of the payment, North Shore will pay $10,337,500

00:05:41.200 to compensate these health care employees who were victims of religious discrimination

00:05:46.180 and who were punished for their religious beliefs against taking an injection

00:05:51.140 associated with aborted fetal cells.

00:05:56.280 Let me stop for a moment there.

00:05:57.820 Some vaccines, some medicines, are made using aborted fetal cells,

00:06:05.300 as in they take the dead baby from an abortion

00:06:08.340 and use those cells to do medical engineering from.

00:06:13.220 And that offends some people, many people in fact,

00:06:16.840 who believe that life is sacred and that aborting a baby

00:06:20.680 and using their cells for medical profit is grossly unethical.

00:06:25.680 That was one of the reasons that people made a religious exemption.

00:06:30.960 There are other religious reasons you can think of for not wanting to take a vaccine,

00:06:36.420 but using cells in some way that came from abortions is a powerful reason.

00:06:44.960 Now, what I've just said to you is illegal to say,

00:06:49.580 under the terms of service of YouTube and other social media,

00:06:52.820 if you say that vaccines are in any way associated with fetal cells,

00:06:59.760 even the research of those vaccines associated with fetal cells,

00:07:03.520 you will get your social media account struck out.

00:07:07.500 You will get a strike, as they call it, and you could be suspended.

00:07:10.600 Imagine that.

00:07:11.300 The University Health System in Chicago just signed a $10 million settlement

00:07:20.060 for violating the very right that YouTube and other social media companies says

00:07:25.840 doesn't even exist, and if you claim it exists, you'll be silenced.

00:07:30.280 Isn't that incredible?

00:07:31.240 Let me keep reading.

00:07:31.820 This is a historic first-of-its-kind class action settlement against a private employer

00:07:37.520 who unlawfully denied hundreds of religious exemption requests to COVID-19 shots,

00:07:43.060 and that's very important.

00:07:44.320 Of course, there are certain constitutional rights that all of us have against our government

00:07:47.580 in Canada using our charter of rights and the United States using a bill of rights,

00:07:51.640 but this is against a private company,

00:07:54.380 and I think every other private company that thought that they would join the Pfizer mob

00:07:58.900 against their own employees, I think they should wake up and read this very carefully.

00:08:03.380 The settlement must be approved by the Federal District Court.

00:08:06.620 Employees of North Shore who were denied religious exemptions will receive notice of the settlement

00:08:10.940 and will have an opportunity to comment, object, request to opt out,

00:08:14.720 or submit a claim form for payment out of the settlement fund,

00:08:18.220 all in accordance with deadlines that will be set by the court.

00:08:21.780 As part of the settlement agreement, North Shore will also change its unlawful

00:08:26.120 no-religious-accommodations policy to make it consistent with the law

00:08:30.300 and to provide religious accommodations in every position across its numerous facilities.

00:08:36.240 No position in any North Shore facility will be considered off-limits

00:08:40.440 to unvaccinated employees with approved religious exemptions.

00:08:45.840 Isn't that incredible?

00:08:47.480 They're being forced to do the right thing going forward by lawyers.

00:08:51.440 As I tell you, a lot of people mock lawyers, make fun of lawyers,

00:08:54.620 but in this case, I think the lawyers fought for freedom and won.

00:08:58.280 Let me keep going.

00:09:00.300 In addition, employees who were terminated because of their religious refusal of the COVID shots

00:09:05.040 will be eligible for rehire if they apply within 90 days of final settlement approval by the court,

00:09:12.020 and they will retain their previous seniority level.

00:09:15.960 You know, I had an anecdote that I was thinking about tweeting about when it happened,

00:09:19.900 but I refrained because I didn't want to identify the person in question,

00:09:24.620 but I was flying Air Canada the other day,

00:09:27.800 and the lady at the gate, when I gave her my ID, she looked up at me and said,

00:09:33.200 thank you, and I thought she was just saying thank you because I was giving her my ID,

00:09:36.260 and I said, no, thank you.

00:09:37.700 She said, no, no, no, I know who you are,

00:09:39.760 and she talked briefly.

00:09:40.820 We didn't talk long about our stance on forced vaccines,

00:09:44.960 and she said to me it was her first day back.

00:09:48.780 I didn't talk to her in much depth.

00:09:51.060 I was sort of startled by the whole thing,

00:09:53.120 but if I understand her correctly,

00:09:55.260 she has just been rehired.

00:09:57.360 I think she said it was her first day back.

00:09:59.740 She had just been rehired from Air Canada

00:10:02.440 after having been sacked for not taking the jab,

00:10:06.100 and I think Air Canada should have fought harder,

00:10:08.720 but of course that was a federal rule.

00:10:11.100 That was a Trudeau rule,

00:10:13.340 and she's back at work,

00:10:14.440 but after, imagine the pain and the financial and moral suffering she was through.

00:10:19.860 I think we need class action lawsuits like the one I'm reading about.

00:10:22.980 Let me get back to the press release.

00:10:24.400 I'll read a little bit more from the press release,

00:10:25.800 and then I'll tell you what's interesting here.

00:10:28.180 In October 2021, Liberty Council sent a demand letter to North Shore

00:10:31.600 on behalf of numerous health care workers who had sincere religious objections

00:10:36.420 to North Shore's mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policy.

00:10:40.540 If North Shore had agreed then to follow the law and grant religious exemptions,

00:10:45.000 the matter would have been quickly resolved,

00:10:47.000 and it would have cost nothing.

00:10:49.420 But when North Shore refused to follow the law

00:10:51.460 and instead denied all religious exemption and accommodation requests

00:10:54.720 for employees working in its facilities,

00:10:57.540 Liberty Council filed a class action lawsuit,

00:10:59.540 along with a motion for a temporary restraining order and injunction.

00:11:04.820 And then I'm going to quote from one of the senior members of this Liberty Council

00:11:09.720 because he's taken a bit of a victory lap,

00:11:12.440 but I think he makes some good points here.

00:11:13.780 Take a listen.

00:11:15.700 Liberty Council Vice President of Legal Affairs

00:11:17.740 and Chief Litigation Counsel Horatio Mihat said,

00:11:21.540 We are very pleased with this historic $10 million settlement

00:11:24.860 achieved in our class action lawsuit,

00:11:26.580 The drastic policy change and substantial monetary relief required by the settlement

00:11:31.300 will bring a strong measure of justice to North Shore's employees

00:11:34.860 who were tallowously forced to choose between their conscience and their jobs.

00:11:39.760 And here's my favorite line.

00:11:40.880 I think this is the most important thing in this whole story.

00:11:43.580 This settlement should also serve as a strong warning to employers across the nation

00:11:49.720 that they cannot refuse to accommodate those with sincere religious objections

00:11:54.540 to forced vaccination mandates.

00:11:59.120 I think that is a good point.

00:12:00.800 How many companies, big or small, decided to go along with the mom,

00:12:04.620 said, well, everyone else is doing it?

00:12:06.440 Well, Dr. Fauci says to do it.

00:12:08.860 Well, Pfizer says to do it.

00:12:10.840 Everyone else is doing it.

00:12:12.000 We may as well be callous and bigoted, too.

00:12:15.780 I'd be worried if I was an American company that denied religious exemption.

00:12:20.500 I would be very worried about this precedent.

00:12:23.160 And, you know, it sounds like I've never heard of this health care system before,

00:12:26.820 but if they're making a $10 million payment

00:12:29.380 and if they had 500 or so staff that were involved,

00:12:32.540 it sounds like they're a very large institution.

00:12:34.660 And my point for mentioning that is,

00:12:36.780 you can imagine they had outstanding lawyers

00:12:39.240 who worked very diligently and said,

00:12:42.800 boss, we're going to lose this one, better pay.

00:12:45.100 So if you're a smaller company,

00:12:46.720 and I'd say most companies are smaller than this health system,

00:12:50.060 you're going to say, well, if the big guy with the big lawyers

00:12:53.760 and the big insurance policies thought it was a loser,

00:12:57.700 how could I possibly win, too?

00:12:59.340 I'd better make amends.

00:13:01.420 I'd better rehire.

00:13:02.300 I'd better pay compensation, too.

00:13:06.300 $10 million sounds like a lot,

00:13:08.320 but as soon as I thought about it,

00:13:11.300 I realized, no, actually.

00:13:13.680 $10 million is a rounding error.

00:13:16.320 That won't even buy you a Pfizer yacht or a Pfizer private jet.

00:13:21.940 And I was reminded of this video.

00:13:24.800 This is back from 2009.

00:13:27.520 This is under the Obama administration,

00:13:29.320 but the work done started in the previous Bush administration.

00:13:33.820 Take a look at this video,

00:13:35.460 an announcement by the Department of Justice

00:13:37.420 of the largest criminal fine to that point in American history.

00:13:44.380 Take a listen and listen to who paid the fine and why.

00:13:49.320 Within the Department of Justice, as well as beyond it,

00:13:52.060 to announce a historic settlement with Pfizer Incorporated,

00:13:55.460 a pharmaceutical manufacturer

00:13:56.320 and its subsidiary, Pharmacia and Upjohn Company,

00:14:01.220 arising out of civil and criminal allegations

00:14:04.140 relating to Pfizer's allegedly illegal promotion

00:14:06.560 of various drugs, most notably Bextra.

00:14:10.220 In a combination civil and criminal settlement,

00:14:13.220 Pfizer has agreed to pay $2.3 billion,

00:14:16.460 the largest healthcare fraud settlement

00:14:18.220 in the history of the Department of Justice.

00:14:19.980 Within that $2.3 billion is a criminal fine of $1.195 billion,

00:14:26.360 which makes it the largest criminal fine in history.

00:14:28.960 When a drug is marketed or promoted

00:14:31.120 for non-authorized so-called off-label uses,

00:14:34.300 any use not approved by the FDA,

00:14:36.560 as was the case here,

00:14:37.880 public health may be at risk.

00:14:39.620 And there's a real danger for patients

00:14:41.300 that the medical providers

00:14:42.980 who prescribed the medicine or the device

00:14:46.020 aren't provided with,

00:14:47.300 don't have full information

00:14:48.720 about the drug's risks and benefits.

00:14:51.580 The Office of the Inspector General

00:14:53.600 in this department,

00:14:54.740 and Dan Levinson is here on the stage

00:14:56.820 with me this morning,

00:14:58.420 spent four years

00:14:59.900 in the conduct of this investigation.

00:15:02.960 They didn't just implicate Pfizer.

00:15:05.200 They actually identified

00:15:06.400 and charged the senior managers

00:15:08.340 who were responsible for the fraud.

00:15:10.760 Pfizer paid $2.3 billion in fines

00:15:14.880 for misleading people

00:15:16.940 for hiding the facts

00:15:19.220 about side effects of drugs.

00:15:20.740 Does that sound familiar?

00:15:23.160 Pfizer paid that $2.3 billion fine,

00:15:26.060 and that is indeed a large fine,

00:15:27.960 and I'm sure that stung.

00:15:30.420 But I'm sure the reason

00:15:31.420 the fine was only so large

00:15:32.940 is because that's how much money

00:15:34.300 they made off of it.

00:15:36.520 I want to read to you a little bit

00:15:37.680 from the press release

00:15:38.700 put out that same day.

00:15:41.080 Justice Department announced

00:15:42.320 its largest healthcare fraud settlement

00:15:43.840 in its history.

00:15:45.460 Pfizer paid $2.3 billion

00:15:46.880 for fraudulent marketing.

00:15:49.000 American pharmaceutical giant

00:15:50.240 Pfizer, Inc.,

00:15:51.120 and its subsidiary,

00:15:52.220 Pharmacia and Upjohn Company,

00:15:54.240 have agreed to pay $2.3 billion,

00:15:56.260 the largest healthcare fraud settlement

00:15:57.840 in the history of the Department of Justice,

00:15:59.680 to resolve criminal and civil liability

00:16:01.460 arising from the illegal promotion

00:16:03.560 of certain pharmaceutical products,

00:16:05.780 the Justice Department announced today.

00:16:09.700 Those other drugs,

00:16:11.160 I frankly was not familiar with them.

00:16:13.840 Those are a drop in the bucket.

00:16:15.620 Those are a rounding error

00:16:16.840 compared to the COVID-19 drugs.

00:16:20.300 In fact, in the case of the company

00:16:22.360 called Moderna,

00:16:23.940 they had actually never brought

00:16:26.120 a product to market before.

00:16:28.620 Their COVID-19 mRNA drug

00:16:31.220 is the first time

00:16:32.500 they've ever been allowed

00:16:33.640 to sell something to people.

00:16:36.300 And of course,

00:16:37.060 only under the emergency use authorization.

00:16:39.440 They're not fully tested

00:16:40.900 under FDA rules.

00:16:43.560 That company went from nothing,

00:16:45.780 no viable products in the market,

00:16:48.220 to a multi, multi-billion dollar company,

00:16:51.140 Pfizer.

00:16:51.880 We're talking about companies

00:16:53.900 that double, triple, quadrupled

00:16:55.960 in size and profit,

00:16:58.140 yachts and private jets.

00:17:00.180 If they paid a $2.3 billion settlement

00:17:03.220 a dozen years ago,

00:17:04.920 how much money are they making

00:17:07.280 off of pushing their COVID-19 drugs now?

00:17:11.800 We know from trying to pin down,

00:17:14.540 for example,

00:17:15.160 members of Doug Ford's health table

00:17:18.300 that was giving advice,

00:17:19.840 that there were people

00:17:20.920 involved in giving advice

00:17:23.340 to politicians in Canada

00:17:25.200 and the United States

00:17:26.200 who had direct stake

00:17:28.380 in these drug companies,

00:17:29.780 who either had stock

00:17:31.060 in the drug companies

00:17:31.920 or who were paid fees

00:17:33.540 by the drug companies.

00:17:35.940 $10 million

00:17:36.760 from this one hospital network

00:17:38.860 in Chicago

00:17:39.460 sounds like a lot of money.

00:17:41.680 But do you doubt

00:17:42.620 that they made

00:17:43.360 $10, $20, $30, $50, $100 million

00:17:46.460 from Pfizer

00:17:48.080 over the same period of time?

00:17:50.680 In fact, it wouldn't shock me.

00:17:52.240 I have no evidence for it,

00:17:53.520 but it wouldn't shock me

00:17:54.540 if Pfizer said to them,

00:17:57.200 hey, University Hospital,

00:17:58.320 thanks very much.

00:17:59.440 We will cover your $10 million.

00:18:01.920 Because we don't want

00:18:03.520 to have a trial.

00:18:05.120 Because we don't want it

00:18:06.260 to come out.

00:18:08.240 That we were encouraging you

00:18:10.180 to push our meds.

00:18:12.300 There's no one more aggressive

00:18:13.840 and assertive

00:18:14.860 than a pharmaceutical salesman.

00:18:16.660 If you think realtors

00:18:17.980 can be a nudge,

00:18:19.380 you've never met

00:18:19.980 a drug salesman.

00:18:21.560 And a major hospital

00:18:23.280 like that in Illinois,

00:18:25.140 they probably served up

00:18:27.080 millions of doses

00:18:28.880 of Pfizer's drugs,

00:18:31.000 maternalist drugs.

00:18:32.580 Do you think they wanted

00:18:33.540 questions like that

00:18:35.020 being asked under oath

00:18:36.240 in an open court?

00:18:37.980 A $10 million payment

00:18:39.400 to shut this up 0.90

00:18:40.300 and shut this down?

00:18:41.280 That's a rounding error

00:18:42.780 to them.

00:18:43.140 Remember,

00:18:43.400 these are people

00:18:43.900 who paid

00:18:44.320 a $2.3 billion fine

00:18:46.380 and didn't blink.

00:18:48.100 So this is good news

00:18:49.460 for the 500 or so workers

00:18:51.440 at this hospital network.

00:18:52.800 They'll get their jobs back.

00:18:54.100 They'll get a payment.

00:18:55.260 They'll get their seniority back.

00:18:56.900 The policies have changed

00:18:58.080 and I think this is

00:18:58.800 about as close as you get

00:18:59.740 to an apology

00:19:00.480 in modern law.

00:19:02.740 I think this is

00:19:03.700 a good warning

00:19:04.400 wake-up call

00:19:05.300 to other employers

00:19:06.560 from the United States,

00:19:07.480 including private sector employers,

00:19:09.400 that just because

00:19:09.980 everyone was being a bully

00:19:11.300 doesn't mean it's legal.

00:19:12.620 I hope this is encouragement

00:19:14.720 to Canadian

00:19:15.480 class action lawyers

00:19:17.000 to consider filing

00:19:18.300 the same lawsuits

00:19:19.240 up here

00:19:19.860 because we know

00:19:21.440 that very few

00:19:23.080 religious exemptions

00:19:24.820 have been granted

00:19:25.500 in Canada.

00:19:27.020 But it's also a reminder

00:19:28.440 that $10 million

00:19:29.760 means nothing

00:19:31.040 to a company

00:19:32.240 like Moderna

00:19:32.920 or Pfizer

00:19:33.600 compared to the amount

00:19:35.160 of money they're raking in

00:19:36.240 for these vaccines.

00:19:38.200 Stay with us.

00:19:39.060 More app.

00:19:42.620 Hey, welcome back.

00:19:48.940 I am excited

00:19:49.800 that Rebel News

00:19:50.640 is doing more

00:19:51.200 and more documentaries.

00:19:52.880 What I mean by a documentary

00:19:53.880 is a longer form video

00:19:55.420 with a little more

00:19:56.060 production value

00:19:56.760 where we really drill in

00:19:58.080 deep on a subject.

00:19:59.780 And one of the subjects

00:20:00.500 we've investigated

00:20:01.440 more closely,

00:20:03.280 I think,

00:20:03.560 than almost any other meeting

00:20:04.800 in Canada,

00:20:06.320 maybe even in the world,

00:20:07.860 is the World Economic Forum

00:20:10.120 run by Klaus Schwab

00:20:11.760 based in Switzerland.

00:20:14.000 They had their annual

00:20:14.620 conference in Davos.

00:20:17.320 As you remember,

00:20:18.420 just a few months ago,

00:20:19.320 we sent six reporters

00:20:20.940 to the annual Davos meeting

00:20:22.540 and we were pretty much

00:20:23.840 the only independent reporters

00:20:25.140 there.

00:20:25.360 There was one other guy,

00:20:26.240 our friend Andrew Lawton

00:20:27.200 from True North.

00:20:28.300 There were other media there,

00:20:29.880 but they were there

00:20:30.620 in collusion.

00:20:31.700 They were there

00:20:32.160 as sponsors

00:20:33.040 or official participants.

00:20:34.580 They, by definition,

00:20:36.680 could not report honestly

00:20:37.940 on the event.

00:20:38.560 In fact,

00:20:38.800 they paid hundreds

00:20:39.580 of thousands of dollars

00:20:40.540 for the privilege

00:20:41.460 of being insiders.

00:20:43.200 Here's a quick reminder

00:20:44.400 of some of the

00:20:45.780 interesting interactions

00:20:47.280 we had on the streets

00:20:48.320 of Davos.

00:20:49.440 I don't think they were ready

00:20:50.660 for independent journalists.

00:20:51.860 I don't think they ever had

00:20:52.980 independent journalists

00:20:53.840 there before.

00:20:54.900 So they just weren't ready

00:20:56.580 to be asked real questions.

00:20:57.620 Here's a snippet of that.

00:20:58.540 I'll stop now

00:21:00.580 because you're asking me

00:21:01.700 quite aggressive questions.

00:21:03.280 Well, I think the whole

00:21:04.340 And I didn't ask

00:21:04.760 to be interviewed.

00:21:06.360 This is an interview

00:21:07.120 done against my approval.

00:21:09.300 The vaccination is also

00:21:10.720 the vaccine.

00:21:12.240 If this interview is you.

00:21:13.320 People are forced vaccinated.

00:21:14.680 Do you think that's okay?

00:21:15.360 That's against their will.

00:21:16.660 And that's,

00:21:16.900 that's WHO pushed

00:21:18.300 the vaccine.

00:21:19.140 I have never called

00:21:22.240 for forced vaccination myself.

00:21:26.380 Well, one of the six

00:21:27.440 journalists we sent

00:21:28.560 to Davos this year

00:21:29.660 was our friend

00:21:30.480 Louis Blackpool,

00:21:31.860 our British reporter

00:21:33.360 for Rebel News.

00:21:34.300 And you might recall

00:21:35.440 that a few months ago

00:21:36.800 he produced the first

00:21:38.240 in a series of documentaries.

00:21:39.900 We're calling it

00:21:40.500 a docu-series

00:21:41.620 on what Klaus Schwab

00:21:43.600 calls the Great Reset.

00:21:46.220 The Great Reset.

00:21:47.200 You've probably heard

00:21:47.880 that term used

00:21:48.660 by globalists

00:21:49.320 like Justin Trudeau

00:21:50.280 and even by Joe Biden.

00:21:51.980 That's build back

00:21:52.980 better terminology.

00:21:55.080 Well, we're ready

00:21:55.760 with our second installment

00:21:57.700 of Louis' docu-series.

00:21:59.640 Here, take a look

00:22:00.060 at the trailer.

00:22:01.200 When it was first published

00:22:02.160 in 2016,

00:22:03.880 the fourth industrial revolution

00:22:05.480 made the case

00:22:06.220 that technology

00:22:07.040 and digitization

00:22:08.100 will revolutionize everything.

00:22:09.900 One of the features

00:22:10.900 of this fourth industrial revolution

00:22:12.720 is that it doesn't change

00:22:14.280 what we are doing,

00:22:15.740 but it changes us.

00:22:17.800 Making the overused

00:22:18.940 and often ill-used adage,

00:22:21.780 this time is different.

00:22:24.740 Simply put,

00:22:26.160 major technology innovations

00:22:27.800 are on the brink

00:22:28.620 of fuel and momentous change

00:22:30.160 throughout the world.

00:22:32.240 In the four short years

00:22:33.580 since technology progressed

00:22:35.700 and moved impressively fast.

00:22:37.620 AI is now all around us

00:22:40.860 from drone

00:22:42.440 and voice recognition

00:22:43.800 to virtual assistants

00:22:45.600 and translation software.

00:22:48.620 Where are they traveling?

00:22:49.720 How are they traveling?

00:22:51.100 What are they eating?

00:22:52.580 What are they consuming

00:22:53.440 on the platform?

00:22:54.820 So, individual

00:22:56.080 carbon footprint tracker.

00:22:58.700 Stay tuned.

00:22:59.680 We don't have it operational yet,

00:23:01.260 but this is something

00:23:01.940 that we're working on.

00:23:03.280 Our mobile devices

00:23:04.300 have become a permanent

00:23:05.480 and integral part

00:23:06.540 of our personal

00:23:07.340 and professional lives,

00:23:09.140 helping us

00:23:09.680 on many different fronts,

00:23:11.560 anticipations,

00:23:12.760 our needs,

00:23:13.840 listening to us

00:23:15.000 and locating us

00:23:16.260 even when asked

00:23:18.540 not to do so.

00:23:19.440 Well, there you have it,

00:23:35.860 a trailer on The Great Reset.

00:23:37.660 It's so true. 0.84

00:23:38.340 I remember once upon a time,

00:23:39.540 I'm old enough to remember

00:23:40.820 the before times,

00:23:41.920 before technology

00:23:43.180 and surveillance technology

00:23:44.860 was ubiquitous,

00:23:46.620 that there was an idea

00:23:47.400 of sweeping a room for bugs.

00:23:49.060 You know,

00:23:49.420 you would see those

00:23:50.080 in spy movies.

00:23:51.540 Oh, we have to sweep

00:23:52.100 the room for bugs.

00:23:52.820 There's a listening device.

00:23:54.540 Well, now you're carrying

00:23:56.020 the listening device,

00:23:57.840 your phone.

00:23:58.880 It listens to you.

00:24:00.160 If you think I'm exaggerating,

00:24:01.600 read the terms of service

00:24:02.580 for almost every app.

00:24:04.420 The most terrifying

00:24:05.420 includes TikTok,

00:24:06.800 which not only

00:24:07.860 tracks everything

00:24:09.420 you do and say,

00:24:10.660 but looks at your eyes,

00:24:12.400 where you look on the screen,

00:24:13.500 your gestures.

00:24:14.740 It records all of that.

00:24:16.800 There's no such thing

00:24:17.340 as sweeping for bugs.

00:24:18.240 We carry the bugs.

00:24:20.260 We carry our own

00:24:21.400 surveillance systems

00:24:22.640 with us at all time.

00:24:24.780 It's terrifying.

00:24:26.360 Joining us now

00:24:26.960 to talk about it

00:24:27.600 is the host

00:24:28.240 of the docuseries,

00:24:29.200 our friend Louis Brackle.

00:24:30.480 Louis, great to see you again.

00:24:31.860 Congratulations on part two

00:24:33.700 of the documentary.

00:24:34.540 This is the scarier one,

00:24:35.880 isn't it?

00:24:37.140 Yeah, correct.

00:24:38.380 This is the part

00:24:39.280 where we talk all technology.

00:24:41.380 And like you said,

00:24:42.720 I mean,

00:24:43.080 that's just the tip

00:24:44.100 of the iceberg

00:24:44.680 on technology

00:24:45.680 and what we've been

00:24:46.920 going through

00:24:47.560 and sort of having

00:24:48.780 a real deep dive

00:24:49.760 into what Klaus Schwab

00:24:51.620 and his minions

00:24:52.380 have in store

00:24:53.400 for us all laid out

00:24:55.100 in his book.

00:24:55.760 So, yeah,

00:24:56.180 it's pretty scary stuff.

00:24:57.660 One of Klaus Schwab's

00:25:00.900 intellectual muses

00:25:02.660 is a strange fellow.

00:25:06.680 And I say that

00:25:07.400 I don't think

00:25:08.140 I'm being mean.

00:25:08.700 He's quite unusual.

00:25:10.120 He has many

00:25:10.620 very eccentric habits.

00:25:11.960 He even looks in the very,

00:25:13.280 he's a very unusual person.

00:25:14.920 Yuval Noah Harari,

00:25:16.300 who's sort of a futurist

00:25:18.480 and a historian

00:25:19.480 and a kind of philosopher.

00:25:22.360 And I think he's having

00:25:24.380 the time of his life

00:25:25.480 with the pandemic

00:25:26.300 and COVID

00:25:27.660 and this fourth industrial revolution,

00:25:30.420 as Klaus Schwab calls it.

00:25:32.300 And he said,

00:25:33.460 the quiet part out loud,

00:25:35.240 he says that

00:25:35.940 the big meaning of COVID

00:25:38.300 was it stunned us,

00:25:40.300 it shocked us

00:25:41.240 into allowing

00:25:43.060 total surveillance.

00:25:45.340 And he keeps on talking

00:25:46.640 about surveillance

00:25:47.400 under the skin,

00:25:49.740 which means

00:25:50.560 our biological information.

00:25:52.740 And we see

00:25:54.340 pharmaceutical executives

00:25:55.860 talking about a pill

00:25:56.800 that you swallow

00:25:57.520 and it literally

00:25:58.900 has a little chip in it.

00:26:00.400 I mean,

00:26:00.620 this used to be the stuff

00:26:01.520 of conspiracy theories,

00:26:02.900 a little chip

00:26:03.620 that radios out,

00:26:05.720 did you take your pill

00:26:06.580 or not?

00:26:07.560 And even our devices,

00:26:10.000 like a fitness device,

00:26:11.180 like my watch

00:26:12.300 takes my pulse

00:26:13.640 and if I go for a run,

00:26:15.440 okay,

00:26:15.740 I'm glad to know

00:26:16.280 how many calories I burn,

00:26:17.480 but that's connected

00:26:18.160 to my phone,

00:26:18.720 which is connected

00:26:19.280 to the internet.

00:26:20.380 Soon they say

00:26:23.340 you won't even have

00:26:23.940 a cell phone,

00:26:24.620 it'll be,

00:26:25.760 you could already

00:26:26.320 take calls from your watch,

00:26:27.560 maybe it's a chip.

00:26:28.660 And I'm not saying

00:26:29.320 this in a conspiratorial way,

00:26:30.800 I'm talking about

00:26:31.440 what Yuval Noah Harari

00:26:32.600 of the World Economic Forum

00:26:34.400 says where we are now.

00:26:35.960 He says COVID was the way

00:26:37.920 to get us to accept

00:26:40.080 surveillance of our bodies.

00:26:42.000 I think he's right.

00:26:43.600 And when the crisis is over,

00:26:45.540 it's not like we're going back

00:26:46.880 to the place

00:26:47.960 where we started.

00:26:48.840 And it will be the same

00:26:50.900 in so many different areas

00:26:52.700 in the economy,

00:26:54.220 in the political system.

00:26:56.280 So again,

00:26:56.800 I can't predict

00:26:57.780 which of all these experiments

00:27:00.320 will succeed

00:27:01.600 and what the outcome will be.

00:27:04.860 That's the danger.

00:27:05.860 It could last long

00:27:07.140 after this emergency

00:27:08.680 because there is always

00:27:10.540 a new emergency

00:27:11.580 on the horizon.

00:27:13.040 New surveillance technologies

00:27:14.900 that are now deployed

00:27:16.520 just to deal with

00:27:18.300 this coronavirus outbreak.

00:27:21.040 When it's over,

00:27:22.560 some governments may say,

00:27:24.240 yes,

00:27:24.540 but there is a second wave

00:27:26.060 of corona coming.

00:27:27.200 So we have to be prepared.

00:27:28.460 And there is Ebola

00:27:29.420 and there is also regular flu.

00:27:31.380 Why not protect people

00:27:32.400 against that too

00:27:33.340 with this new surveillance system?

00:27:35.440 So the tendency would be

00:27:37.260 to prolong it indefinitely.

00:27:39.360 And in this way,

00:27:41.320 the coronavirus epidemic

00:27:42.580 could be a watershed event

00:27:45.200 in the history of surveillance.

00:27:47.640 It's the moment

00:27:48.680 when mass systems

00:27:50.820 of surveillance

00:27:51.520 are established,

00:27:53.200 even in democracies

00:27:54.440 that so far rejected them.

00:27:56.880 And also,

00:27:57.640 it's the moment

00:27:58.340 when surveillance

00:27:59.560 goes really under the skin.

00:28:02.340 Governments are now

00:28:03.320 not just interested

00:28:04.720 in where we go

00:28:05.840 and who we meet,

00:28:07.360 but even in what's happening

00:28:08.740 inside our bodies,

00:28:10.480 our body temperature,

00:28:11.620 our blood pressure,

00:28:12.560 our medical condition.

00:28:13.840 So that's really going

00:28:15.160 a step further.

00:28:17.740 Absolutely.

00:28:18.560 He's very fascinated

00:28:19.840 in the idea

00:28:20.420 of transhumanism,

00:28:22.280 which is a term

00:28:23.700 not many people

00:28:24.720 have heard of,

00:28:26.300 where it's the idea

00:28:27.340 of fusing man

00:28:29.440 and machine,

00:28:30.460 where he's openly said

00:28:31.640 that he wants to

00:28:32.720 hack organisms.

00:28:35.800 It's really quite

00:28:36.820 sinister stuff, really.

00:28:38.420 And, you know,

00:28:39.240 this is the thing.

00:28:40.620 All of this stuff

00:28:41.520 was considered

00:28:42.340 extreme,

00:28:44.500 fringe,

00:28:45.540 conspiratorial stuff

00:28:47.000 from the late 90s

00:28:48.840 to now.

00:28:49.680 And you're seeing it

00:28:51.140 unravel before

00:28:52.100 our own eyes.

00:28:53.480 And what's even

00:28:54.320 more sinister

00:28:55.360 is they openly

00:28:56.840 talk about it.

00:28:58.000 And there are plenty

00:28:59.040 of recordings

00:29:01.040 and tapes online

00:29:02.280 of not just Yuval,

00:29:03.860 but other members

00:29:04.620 of the World Economic Forum

00:29:05.760 almost bragging

00:29:07.180 of this vision

00:29:08.380 that they have in store

00:29:09.720 in the technological

00:29:11.700 sort of advancement

00:29:13.540 they want to push towards.

00:29:15.980 And I don't think

00:29:17.560 the term sinister

00:29:19.040 is even,

00:29:20.400 I think it's too polite

00:29:21.580 to say.

00:29:23.100 I mean,

00:29:23.360 this idea

00:29:24.080 of tracking,

00:29:25.520 it's now actually

00:29:26.440 moved towards

00:29:27.480 more of a

00:29:28.340 compliant

00:29:29.000 based

00:29:30.240 viewpoint.

00:29:32.280 you know,

00:29:33.140 we've seen the clips

00:29:34.040 saying,

00:29:34.760 talking about that pill

00:29:35.940 and saying,

00:29:36.380 can you imagine

00:29:37.060 the compliance?

00:29:38.760 And that to me

00:29:40.060 is just sinister.

00:29:40.920 And we've seen

00:29:41.600 what society

00:29:43.240 has been like

00:29:43.880 for the last

00:29:44.420 two and a half

00:29:45.040 coming up to

00:29:45.540 three years now

00:29:46.540 since the pandemic

00:29:47.600 started.

00:29:48.680 And they've openly

00:29:50.320 admitted that

00:29:51.160 they want to

00:29:51.760 accelerate

00:29:52.500 this type

00:29:54.380 of not only

00:29:55.420 technology,

00:29:56.000 but vision.

00:29:56.800 and

00:29:57.540 I think

00:29:58.520 more and more

00:29:59.280 people are

00:29:59.840 starting to

00:30:00.240 really wake up

00:30:00.900 and go,

00:30:01.460 actually,

00:30:02.420 this isn't

00:30:03.280 a conspiracy

00:30:03.940 theory

00:30:04.420 that I'm

00:30:06.780 being led

00:30:07.220 to believe.

00:30:08.240 And yeah,

00:30:09.360 I think it's

00:30:09.820 great to see

00:30:10.540 that more and more

00:30:11.200 people are now

00:30:12.060 starting to

00:30:13.020 wake up to it.

00:30:13.780 the COVID-19

00:30:15.280 crisis could

00:30:16.220 be a really

00:30:17.500 watershed moment,

00:30:19.520 a moment of

00:30:20.260 significant change

00:30:21.720 in the history

00:30:22.680 of surveillance

00:30:23.500 because surveillance

00:30:24.920 is being

00:30:26.200 revolutionized,

00:30:28.160 transformed

00:30:28.640 from over-the-skin

00:30:30.400 surveillance

00:30:31.080 to under-the-skin

00:30:32.580 surveillance.

00:30:33.820 Previously,

00:30:34.960 governments

00:30:35.360 were collecting

00:30:36.880 data about

00:30:38.180 what we do,

00:30:39.600 who we meet,

00:30:40.520 where we go,

00:30:41.500 what we watch

00:30:42.040 on television.

00:30:42.620 Now,

00:30:44.360 with this epidemic,

00:30:45.740 they increasingly

00:30:46.540 focus on what's

00:30:48.020 happening inside

00:30:48.960 our body.

00:30:50.600 What's our blood

00:30:51.540 pressure,

00:30:52.160 our body temperature,

00:30:53.460 our heart rate?

00:30:56.260 And, you know,

00:30:57.220 during the crisis,

00:30:57.980 there is no time

00:30:58.940 to have a deep

00:31:00.300 public debate

00:31:01.040 about it.

00:31:01.860 Decisions are just

00:31:02.640 being made very,

00:31:03.480 very fast.

00:31:04.420 Yeah,

00:31:04.580 I was shocked

00:31:05.100 to learn,

00:31:05.580 like I recently

00:31:06.880 rejoined the world

00:31:07.760 of dogs,

00:31:08.700 and I was shocked

00:31:09.720 to learn that

00:31:10.400 dog tags,

00:31:12.120 dog necklaces

00:31:12.920 that dogs

00:31:13.520 would wear

00:31:14.080 if I'm lost,

00:31:15.300 returning to this

00:31:15.900 owner,

00:31:16.480 have been largely

00:31:17.300 replaced,

00:31:17.920 at least in Canada,

00:31:18.840 maybe other countries

00:31:19.620 too,

00:31:20.660 with actually

00:31:21.120 a little microchip

00:31:21.980 that is

00:31:22.460 surgically put

00:31:24.960 into the dog.

00:31:25.440 I didn't know

00:31:25.900 that was normal

00:31:26.660 and widespread.

00:31:27.860 I'm sort of shocked

00:31:28.780 to hear it.

00:31:30.020 Now,

00:31:30.220 dogs are not people.

00:31:31.320 They don't have

00:31:31.760 rights in the same way

00:31:33.300 and they're not,

00:31:33.840 you know,

00:31:35.820 subject to their own,

00:31:37.380 you know,

00:31:38.520 they're not their own

00:31:39.020 moral agents.

00:31:39.860 They're owned by people 1.00

00:31:40.840 and that's why

00:31:41.920 their dogs are not people.

00:31:43.500 But what Yuval

00:31:44.660 Nawa Harari

00:31:45.380 talks about

00:31:46.020 is that fusion

00:31:47.080 and he keeps talking

00:31:47.880 about under the skin,

00:31:49.320 under the skin,

00:31:50.500 technology,

00:31:51.240 skin,

00:31:52.000 and then hacking

00:31:53.120 this human technology

00:31:55.100 hybrid.

00:31:55.860 He says

00:31:56.600 that we

00:31:57.880 either now

00:31:58.920 or in the near future

00:31:59.760 will be able to

00:32:00.680 hack people

00:32:02.340 and know them

00:32:03.200 better than they know

00:32:03.960 themselves

00:32:04.520 and know what

00:32:05.700 they're going to say

00:32:06.280 before they themselves

00:32:07.380 think it

00:32:08.000 because we know

00:32:09.140 everything from

00:32:09.880 their biochemistry

00:32:11.440 to,

00:32:12.400 like,

00:32:12.600 like,

00:32:13.100 if you can get

00:32:13.740 the technology,

00:32:14.520 you can get people

00:32:15.220 to agree

00:32:15.900 to put technology

00:32:17.800 into their bodies,

00:32:18.980 then you can

00:32:19.660 know them better

00:32:20.640 than they know

00:32:21.120 themselves

00:32:21.560 and control them

00:32:22.700 in ways

00:32:23.540 based on that

00:32:24.220 knowledge.

00:32:25.380 And I've always

00:32:26.760 felt eerie

00:32:27.920 about that.

00:32:28.480 Like,

00:32:28.620 I've always said

00:32:29.320 Facebook knows

00:32:31.480 you better

00:32:31.800 than you know

00:32:32.240 yourself

00:32:32.580 because it,

00:32:33.460 unlike you,

00:32:33.860 has never

00:32:34.200 forgotten anything.

00:32:36.440 It knows every

00:32:37.160 email you've ever

00:32:37.840 written or read,

00:32:39.080 every picture

00:32:39.840 you've ever

00:32:40.260 looked at.

00:32:41.660 You have probably

00:32:42.680 forgotten what

00:32:43.460 you read last week,

00:32:44.380 last month,

00:32:44.840 ten years ago.

00:32:45.920 Facebook never does.

00:32:46.900 Google never does.

00:32:48.500 And so,

00:32:48.880 in some ways,

00:32:49.620 they know you better

00:32:50.420 than they know yourself,

00:32:51.220 but they're not

00:32:51.920 in your head.

00:32:53.280 It's like the

00:32:53.960 Truman Show

00:32:54.520 when he said,

00:32:55.680 you never knew

00:32:56.600 what was in my mind.

00:32:58.660 But Yuval Noah

00:32:59.340 Rari and Klaus Schwab

00:33:00.780 and the World Economic

00:33:01.540 Forum,

00:33:02.900 and the,

00:33:04.220 you know,

00:33:05.120 imagine with Jeff Bezos,

00:33:06.600 instead of just knowing

00:33:07.400 everything you ever

00:33:08.060 shopped at

00:33:08.740 and looked at,

00:33:09.940 knew deep into

00:33:11.080 your heart,

00:33:12.300 deep into your head,

00:33:13.600 what you really wanted.

00:33:15.340 And selling you things

00:33:16.500 is the least problematic.

00:33:18.380 Controlling you politically,

00:33:19.500 controlling your freedom

00:33:20.900 is what I'm really

00:33:22.120 worried about.

00:33:23.160 That's really what

00:33:24.440 they want to do

00:33:25.280 with the technological

00:33:26.640 side of the Great Reset,

00:33:27.980 isn't it?

00:33:29.380 Absolutely.

00:33:30.280 Absolutely.

00:33:30.880 There's a lot of talk

00:33:32.120 as well

00:33:32.620 about playing God.

00:33:35.220 He talks a lot

00:33:35.720 about playing God,

00:33:36.700 too.

00:33:37.540 And whether you're

00:33:38.920 a man or woman

00:33:40.500 of faith

00:33:41.120 or not,

00:33:42.440 the idea

00:33:44.060 of playing God

00:33:45.580 and the idea

00:33:46.440 of becoming

00:33:48.400 a God

00:33:49.060 of yourself

00:33:49.820 is something

00:33:51.040 that shouldn't

00:33:52.060 be tampered with.

00:33:53.140 And I think both

00:33:53.840 people of faith

00:33:54.880 or not of faith

00:33:56.020 have kind of

00:33:58.500 understood

00:33:59.280 that there is

00:33:59.960 a fine line

00:34:00.860 between stepping

00:34:02.480 into that kind

00:34:03.340 of realm

00:34:03.720 because it can

00:34:04.620 be extremely

00:34:05.440 dangerous.

00:34:06.440 The only thing

00:34:07.640 God managed

00:34:08.660 to create

00:34:09.420 are organic

00:34:10.980 beings.

00:34:12.440 all these

00:34:13.780 trees

00:34:14.700 and giraffes

00:34:15.640 and humans,

00:34:16.460 they are just

00:34:16.860 organic.

00:34:18.200 But we are now

00:34:19.240 trying to create

00:34:20.660 inorganic entities,

00:34:22.520 inorganic life forms,

00:34:24.100 cyborgs,

00:34:25.020 artificial intelligence

00:34:25.960 and so forth.

00:34:27.180 If we succeed

00:34:28.320 and there is

00:34:29.120 a very good chance

00:34:30.220 we will,

00:34:31.280 then very soon

00:34:32.440 we will be

00:34:33.760 beyond

00:34:34.400 the God

00:34:35.440 of the Bible.

00:34:36.120 It seems like

00:34:37.060 this organization

00:34:37.860 and Yuval

00:34:39.260 as well

00:34:39.720 are really

00:34:40.580 trying to push

00:34:41.880 for that.

00:34:42.440 They really

00:34:43.280 want that

00:34:43.720 because data

00:34:45.100 now is

00:34:46.540 the most sacred

00:34:47.640 and the most

00:34:48.460 powerful tool

00:34:49.580 to be used

00:34:51.060 against people

00:34:52.060 and to be used

00:34:53.260 to work out

00:34:55.040 not only,

00:34:55.560 like you said,

00:34:56.520 with understanding

00:34:58.260 people and

00:34:59.260 understanding

00:34:59.920 how humans

00:35:00.980 work.

00:35:02.260 So pushing,

00:35:03.740 going beyond

00:35:04.400 this threshold

00:35:05.080 and pushing 0.99

00:35:05.760 towards this

00:35:06.520 direction

00:35:07.000 is not only

00:35:08.600 scary,

00:35:09.360 but it's

00:35:11.380 menacing.

00:35:11.960 There is

00:35:12.240 something

00:35:12.480 menacing

00:35:12.940 there and

00:35:13.540 I don't

00:35:14.340 like to

00:35:14.920 talk

00:35:16.180 in a 0.95

00:35:17.640 black pill

00:35:18.140 sense or

00:35:18.920 depressing

00:35:20.000 or that

00:35:22.040 kind of side

00:35:22.840 of things

00:35:23.100 but it

00:35:24.080 seems to me

00:35:24.960 that's

00:35:26.060 that's the

00:35:27.160 way that

00:35:28.380 it seems

00:35:29.220 to be

00:35:29.440 pushing.

00:35:29.980 And this

00:35:30.640 is one of

00:35:30.980 those things

00:35:31.520 people say,

00:35:32.260 well,

00:35:32.380 how do you

00:35:32.820 not know

00:35:33.380 that they're

00:35:34.900 looking through

00:35:35.580 it in a

00:35:36.040 perspective that

00:35:36.940 could be good

00:35:37.600 for people?

00:35:38.400 Well,

00:35:39.000 I challenge

00:35:39.760 people to

00:35:40.180 say,

00:35:40.540 well,

00:35:40.880 if you think

00:35:41.360 about it,

00:35:41.880 a cat

00:35:42.180 doesn't know

00:35:42.680 it meows,

00:35:43.760 a cow

00:35:44.440 doesn't know

00:35:44.840 it moves,

00:35:45.500 and sometimes

00:35:46.620 some people

00:35:47.800 don't know

00:35:48.520 that they

00:35:49.240 are being

00:35:49.560 evil and

00:35:50.360 that's kind

00:35:51.480 of my

00:35:52.000 perspective

00:35:52.620 from going

00:35:53.620 on this

00:35:53.960 deep dive

00:35:54.620 about the

00:35:55.940 World Economic

00:35:56.480 Forum.

00:35:57.120 It's

00:35:57.380 anti-human

00:35:58.240 is what

00:35:59.160 it is.

00:35:59.680 It's very

00:36:00.480 anti-human

00:36:01.400 and it's

00:36:02.620 almost you're

00:36:03.240 treated or

00:36:04.100 you're turned

00:36:04.680 into a

00:36:05.800 commodity for

00:36:06.840 their own

00:36:07.720 science as

00:36:08.760 they call it.

00:36:10.440 Yeah,

00:36:10.740 you're so

00:36:11.500 right on that

00:36:12.200 and a lot

00:36:12.960 of the

00:36:13.220 WEF,

00:36:14.260 World Economic

00:36:14.680 Forum oligarchs

00:36:15.780 explicitly say

00:36:16.940 they want

00:36:17.360 billions fewer

00:36:18.560 people in the

00:36:19.200 world.

00:36:20.260 Yes.

00:36:20.460 This terrifying

00:36:21.260 TED Talk

00:36:22.120 with Bill Gates

00:36:24.160 where he says

00:36:25.300 we need to

00:36:25.800 reduce the

00:36:26.500 number of

00:36:26.900 people in

00:36:27.300 the world

00:36:27.740 by billions

00:36:29.280 and he's

00:36:30.560 the guy in

00:36:31.040 charge of

00:36:31.600 vaccines.

00:36:33.080 That doesn't

00:36:34.160 square.

00:36:35.240 It's an

00:36:35.600 average of

00:36:36.020 about five

00:36:36.680 tons for

00:36:37.820 everyone on

00:36:38.380 the planet

00:36:38.880 and somehow

00:36:39.980 we have to

00:36:40.480 make changes

00:36:41.220 that will

00:36:42.520 bring that

00:36:43.120 down to

00:36:43.700 zero.

00:36:44.680 It's been

00:36:45.680 constantly

00:36:46.280 going up.

00:36:47.340 It's only

00:36:47.880 various economic

00:36:49.140 changes that

00:36:50.360 have even

00:36:50.840 flattened it

00:36:51.380 at all.

00:36:51.820 So we have

00:36:52.120 to go from

00:36:52.560 rapidly rising

00:36:53.840 to falling

00:36:55.080 and falling

00:36:55.660 all the way

00:36:56.220 to zero.

00:36:57.200 This equation

00:36:58.100 has four

00:36:58.580 factors,

00:36:59.620 a little bit

00:37:00.180 of multiplication.

00:37:01.460 So you've got

00:37:01.880 a thing on the

00:37:02.680 left,

00:37:02.980 CO2,

00:37:03.480 that you want

00:37:03.800 to get to

00:37:04.160 zero.

00:37:05.040 And that's

00:37:05.760 going to be

00:37:06.060 based on

00:37:06.680 the number

00:37:07.240 of people,

00:37:08.440 the services

00:37:09.280 each person's

00:37:10.580 using on

00:37:11.000 average,

00:37:11.420 energy on

00:37:13.500 average for

00:37:13.980 each service,

00:37:14.920 and the

00:37:15.220 CO2 being

00:37:16.100 put out

00:37:16.700 per unit

00:37:18.120 of energy.

00:37:19.060 So let's

00:37:19.540 look at each

00:37:20.000 one of these

00:37:20.700 and see how

00:37:22.260 we can get

00:37:22.800 this down

00:37:23.300 to zero.

00:37:24.460 Probably one

00:37:25.240 of these numbers

00:37:25.840 is going to

00:37:26.260 have to get

00:37:26.680 pretty near

00:37:27.200 to zero.

00:37:28.680 That's back

00:37:30.180 from high

00:37:30.540 school algebra.

00:37:31.280 But let's

00:37:31.640 take a look.

00:37:33.280 First,

00:37:33.800 we've got

00:37:34.100 population.

00:37:35.640 The world

00:37:36.040 today has

00:37:36.580 6.8 billion

00:37:37.480 people.

00:37:38.280 That's headed

00:37:38.860 up to

00:37:39.160 about

00:37:39.360 9 billion.

00:37:40.520 Now,

00:37:40.860 if we do

00:37:41.140 a really

00:37:41.640 great job

00:37:42.500 on new

00:37:43.920 vaccines,

00:37:44.760 health care,

00:37:45.940 reproductive

00:37:46.380 health services,

00:37:47.080 we could

00:37:47.500 lower that

00:37:47.920 by perhaps

00:37:48.660 10 or 15%.

00:37:49.800 But there

00:37:50.600 we see

00:37:50.920 an increase

00:37:51.580 of about

00:37:53.000 1.3.

00:37:54.260 You know,

00:37:55.320 Yuval Noah Harari

00:37:56.180 says anyone

00:37:57.000 who follows

00:37:57.660 the Bible

00:37:58.280 is following

00:37:59.320 some gossipy

00:38:01.600 rumor,

00:38:02.320 a myth

00:38:02.800 in the past

00:38:03.840 and that's

00:38:04.200 unscientific

00:38:04.840 and we are

00:38:05.520 our own

00:38:05.920 gods.

00:38:07.180 And

00:38:07.400 when you

00:38:09.580 seek to

00:38:10.160 replace

00:38:10.600 every source

00:38:12.060 of morality

00:38:12.740 and every

00:38:13.280 when you

00:38:14.660 seek to

00:38:14.980 replace

00:38:15.300 all religion

00:38:16.080 and say

00:38:16.460 all religion

00:38:17.140 is folly 0.98

00:38:17.820 when you

00:38:18.660 seek to

00:38:19.140 control

00:38:19.580 people,

00:38:20.540 you don't

00:38:22.300 even know

00:38:22.780 what you're

00:38:23.280 going to

00:38:24.020 cause

00:38:24.520 and you

00:38:24.760 don't have

00:38:25.020 to be

00:38:25.220 religious.

00:38:25.840 I think

00:38:26.280 of what

00:38:26.540 Churchill

00:38:26.820 used to

00:38:27.200 say.

00:38:27.900 Churchill

00:38:28.100 says,

00:38:29.180 Churchill

00:38:29.400 would say,

00:38:30.460 I'm not

00:38:30.760 a pillar

00:38:31.240 of the

00:38:31.740 church.

00:38:32.440 I'm a

00:38:33.080 buttress

00:38:33.460 of the

00:38:33.780 church.

00:38:34.100 I support

00:38:34.540 it,

00:38:34.780 but from

00:38:35.000 the outside.

00:38:36.140 And that

00:38:36.400 sounds

00:38:36.660 funny,

00:38:37.020 but here's

00:38:37.720 what he

00:38:38.040 meant.

00:38:39.280 He meant

00:38:39.800 that I

00:38:40.360 don't have

00:38:40.740 to go

00:38:40.960 to church

00:38:41.300 every Sunday.

00:38:42.040 I don't

00:38:42.200 have to be

00:38:42.580 a deep

00:38:43.180 faithful

00:38:44.340 believer

00:38:44.780 to understand

00:38:45.640 that the

00:38:45.980 church is

00:38:46.400 good and

00:38:47.640 that it

00:38:47.920 is good

00:38:48.200 for people

00:38:48.860 and that

00:38:49.620 it's the

00:38:51.840 foundation

00:38:52.360 upon which

00:38:53.060 our civil

00:38:53.800 society

00:38:54.300 operates.

00:38:55.260 There's a

00:38:55.700 reason why

00:38:56.440 the Christian

00:38:57.440 West

00:38:57.900 treated

00:38:58.920 minorities

00:38:59.540 better than

00:39:00.060 in other

00:39:00.380 parts,

00:39:00.980 why they

00:39:01.280 were open

00:39:01.720 to reason

00:39:02.300 and science

00:39:02.960 more than

00:39:03.580 in other

00:39:03.860 parts,

00:39:04.940 why the

00:39:05.960 kind of

00:39:06.680 legal system

00:39:07.420 we have,

00:39:08.680 the

00:39:08.860 humanity

00:39:10.580 that we

00:39:11.300 have is

00:39:12.600 the way

00:39:12.860 it is.

00:39:13.820 If you've

00:39:14.560 ever watched

00:39:14.980 that movie

00:39:15.380 by Mel Gibson

00:39:16.440 called Apocalypto

00:39:17.740 to show you

00:39:19.000 life in

00:39:20.000 the Aztecs

00:39:21.440 before Columbus

00:39:22.540 came,

00:39:23.740 where they

00:39:24.020 sacrificed

00:39:24.560 people by

00:39:26.020 the thousand

00:39:26.820 on those

00:39:27.600 and blood

00:39:28.260 going down

00:39:28.840 the pyramids,

00:39:30.020 maybe we need

00:39:30.640 a reminder of

00:39:31.380 what the world

00:39:31.840 is like if it

00:39:32.440 doesn't have

00:39:33.020 a biblical

00:39:33.920 Christian

00:39:34.460 morality,

00:39:35.180 it can be

00:39:35.780 that,

00:39:36.540 but when you

00:39:37.260 replace it

00:39:38.020 with what

00:39:39.320 Klaus Schwab

00:39:40.040 says,

00:39:40.500 what an

00:39:40.940 oligarch says,

00:39:42.060 what a

00:39:42.320 computer algorithm

00:39:43.200 says,

00:39:43.680 what Mark

00:39:44.580 Zuckerberg

00:39:45.040 says,

00:39:45.600 and when you

00:39:46.580 say there is

00:39:47.040 no religion,

00:39:47.720 religion is 0.93

00:39:48.380 just bad 0.95

00:39:48.960 programming

00:39:50.440 from centuries

00:39:51.340 ago,

00:39:52.120 you have no

00:39:53.280 idea what

00:39:54.920 you're messing

00:39:55.560 with.

00:39:55.940 You're messing

00:39:56.380 with a deep

00:39:57.360 ingrained

00:39:58.360 structure of the

00:39:59.280 West and if

00:39:59.780 you pull that

00:40:00.440 foundation out,

00:40:01.560 we don't even

00:40:02.360 yet know the

00:40:03.320 chaos that

00:40:03.940 will come.

00:40:05.440 Klaus Schwab

00:40:06.140 and Yuval Noah

00:40:06.860 Harari and

00:40:08.060 Bill Gates and

00:40:08.800 Mark Zuckerberg

00:40:09.560 and all of

00:40:10.200 them believe

00:40:11.220 they are

00:40:11.920 gods and

00:40:13.460 they believe

00:40:13.960 they have the

00:40:14.600 moral right to

00:40:15.380 be gods and

00:40:15.960 they believe in

00:40:16.620 purging all

00:40:17.680 citizens of

00:40:19.420 their beliefs

00:40:21.220 and replacing

00:40:22.760 the power

00:40:23.320 structure with

00:40:23.940 them at the

00:40:24.320 top and I

00:40:25.860 think your

00:40:26.520 documentary series

00:40:27.460 is very

00:40:27.880 powerful and I

00:40:28.560 watched it and

00:40:30.280 as I said

00:40:30.800 to you

00:40:31.080 privately,

00:40:32.620 you're very

00:40:33.420 careful at

00:40:34.200 documenting what

00:40:35.120 they say and

00:40:36.260 not engaging in

00:40:37.400 baseless speculation.

00:40:38.940 You don't go any

00:40:40.360 further than what

00:40:41.040 they say.

00:40:42.620 It's tempting

00:40:43.420 to say,

00:40:45.100 oh, here's a

00:40:45.520 conspiracy,

00:40:46.140 here's a

00:40:46.420 conspiracy.

00:40:46.700 You don't need

00:40:47.180 to come up with

00:40:47.740 a conspiracy.

00:40:48.540 There's enough

00:40:49.040 conspiracy facts

00:40:49.940 that they're

00:40:50.260 bragging about,

00:40:51.780 that they're

00:40:52.240 writing books

00:40:52.760 about,

00:40:53.320 that they're

00:40:53.760 having meetings

00:40:54.320 about.

00:40:54.640 You don't need

00:40:55.140 to engage in

00:40:55.940 speculation to

00:40:57.440 be bloody

00:40:57.820 terrified.

00:40:58.480 Last word to

00:40:59.060 you.

00:41:00.280 Yeah,

00:41:01.160 well,

00:41:01.500 exactly that.

00:41:02.840 And, you

00:41:03.440 know, it

00:41:04.240 just takes a

00:41:05.320 few minutes

00:41:07.200 to go onto

00:41:08.020 their website

00:41:08.580 to see what

00:41:09.320 they're saying,

00:41:09.880 to see the

00:41:10.680 agenda

00:41:11.400 contributors,

00:41:12.960 to see who

00:41:13.700 is involved,

00:41:14.480 to see who

00:41:15.580 are pushing

00:41:17.460 this message

00:41:18.700 of Agenda

00:41:19.660 2030,

00:41:20.540 sustainable

00:41:21.020 development

00:41:21.640 under the

00:41:22.220 guise of

00:41:22.780 climate change

00:41:24.040 and helping

00:41:24.820 the environment

00:41:25.600 or advancement

00:41:27.440 of technology

00:41:28.380 because it

00:41:28.960 makes things

00:41:29.580 or society

00:41:30.360 easier for

00:41:31.280 you.

00:41:31.780 It doesn't

00:41:32.740 take a lot

00:41:33.400 to find out

00:41:34.120 their vision

00:41:34.700 and that's

00:41:35.360 the thing.

00:41:37.340 And they've

00:41:38.380 managed to be

00:41:40.360 so smart

00:41:41.260 with how they

00:41:42.920 portray their

00:41:43.500 message because,

00:41:44.320 you know,

00:41:44.720 what Klaus Schwab

00:41:45.860 keeps saying,

00:41:47.000 they want to be

00:41:47.540 a transparent

00:41:48.280 organization.

00:41:48.900 They want to be

00:41:49.900 completely transparent

00:41:50.980 because when they're

00:41:52.220 saying it out in

00:41:52.880 the open,

00:41:53.340 if you repeat

00:41:54.440 exactly what

00:41:55.340 they say to

00:41:56.420 the average

00:41:57.040 man or woman,

00:41:58.880 they'll still

00:41:59.440 look at you 0.85

00:42:00.080 as crazy. 0.99

00:42:02.120 And that's

00:42:02.720 what's smart

00:42:03.440 about it.

00:42:04.180 But you know

00:42:04.960 what?

00:42:05.440 I'm optimistic

00:42:06.640 as I try to be

00:42:09.040 all the time,

00:42:09.700 especially when

00:42:10.340 going through

00:42:10.880 subjects like

00:42:11.640 this,

00:42:12.380 is a lot of

00:42:13.540 people are now

00:42:14.380 realizing this

00:42:15.880 isn't a

00:42:16.600 conspiracy theory.

00:42:17.600 It actually

00:42:18.220 just takes a

00:42:19.380 bit of time

00:42:20.080 to look into

00:42:21.040 what they're

00:42:21.580 saying,

00:42:21.920 to listen

00:42:22.520 to what

00:42:23.440 they're saying

00:42:24.080 and to

00:42:25.120 understand that

00:42:26.060 these visions

00:42:26.800 are in fact

00:42:28.280 anti-human.

00:42:30.640 Well, there you

00:42:30.840 have it,

00:42:31.120 Luz Brackpool,

00:42:32.040 our British

00:42:32.580 reporter and

00:42:33.580 the host of

00:42:34.340 the docu-series

00:42:35.320 on The Great

00:42:35.780 Reset.

00:42:36.120 What's the

00:42:36.500 website where

00:42:37.660 we're going to

00:42:38.180 debut the

00:42:39.360 documentary?

00:42:39.880 I can't

00:42:40.100 remember it

00:42:40.380 offhand.

00:42:40.740 Do you know

00:42:40.960 it?

00:42:42.140 Yes, it's

00:42:42.880 exposethereset.com.

00:42:44.920 You can visit

00:42:45.480 there and you

00:42:46.080 can catch up

00:42:46.720 with the first

00:42:47.300 episode that's

00:42:48.040 already out,

00:42:48.960 which is an

00:42:49.340 introduction to

00:42:51.340 the docu-series

00:42:53.200 where each

00:42:54.520 episode is

00:42:56.320 themed almost

00:42:57.560 a bit like

00:42:58.160 Klaus Schwab's

00:42:58.920 book where he

00:42:59.820 highlights in

00:43:00.900 each chapter

00:43:01.720 societal reset,

00:43:03.460 environmental

00:43:03.800 reset,

00:43:04.680 technological

00:43:05.100 reset, and

00:43:06.800 we're theming it

00:43:07.900 exactly how

00:43:08.800 Klaus Schwab

00:43:09.600 does it and

00:43:10.460 making it

00:43:10.880 digestible.

00:43:12.240 And like what

00:43:12.940 Ezra just said

00:43:13.660 as well, we're

00:43:14.500 not beating

00:43:15.060 off the

00:43:15.840 conspiracy

00:43:17.360 theorist or

00:43:18.520 making

00:43:19.100 assumptions or

00:43:20.500 straying off

00:43:22.100 from what

00:43:22.560 they say.

00:43:23.280 It's all

00:43:23.740 what they

00:43:24.440 say.

00:43:25.080 So yeah,

00:43:25.500 exposethereset.com.

00:43:27.940 I think it

00:43:28.720 is the most

00:43:29.220 credible,

00:43:30.020 authoritative,

00:43:30.900 well-researched

00:43:32.160 expose of that

00:43:33.100 subject I've

00:43:33.820 seen.

00:43:34.380 I'm very proud

00:43:35.340 of coming

00:43:36.300 through Rebel

00:43:36.740 News.

00:43:37.040 Louis, you've

00:43:37.360 done a great

00:43:37.800 job.

00:43:38.500 It is so

00:43:38.940 hard to

00:43:39.520 tackle these

00:43:40.140 subjects and

00:43:42.060 walk the

00:43:43.320 straight line.

00:43:44.560 You want to

00:43:45.000 show what's

00:43:45.680 really happening,

00:43:46.700 but you don't

00:43:47.340 want to step a

00:43:48.200 toe into

00:43:48.840 speculation,

00:43:49.660 because that's

00:43:50.460 when critics

00:43:52.000 can rightfully

00:43:52.880 say, oh,

00:43:53.460 you're engaging

00:43:54.220 in a fever

00:43:56.280 dream.

00:43:57.200 What's

00:43:57.640 interesting about

00:43:58.340 your first

00:43:58.940 episode and

00:43:59.540 the one that

00:43:59.940 you're about

00:44:00.620 to release,

00:44:01.060 which I've

00:44:01.360 seen already,

00:44:02.060 is that you

00:44:02.740 never step

00:44:03.600 one inch

00:44:05.800 outside of

00:44:07.300 the facts we

00:44:08.040 can document.

00:44:09.140 That's why

00:44:09.620 it's so bloody

00:44:10.240 terrifying,

00:44:11.080 is that it's

00:44:11.840 not actually a

00:44:12.860 secret plan.

00:44:13.600 It's a public

00:44:14.120 plan that the

00:44:15.780 media party

00:44:16.340 refuses to talk

00:44:17.080 about.

00:44:17.520 We'll let you

00:44:18.040 go.

00:44:18.300 Thank you

00:44:18.680 for joining

00:44:19.100 with me

00:44:19.420 today.

00:44:20.200 Folks, I

00:44:20.720 got to say

00:44:21.220 it is a

00:44:23.840 fascinating

00:44:24.440 documentary.

00:44:26.520 It will

00:44:27.380 disturb you,

00:44:28.600 but I think

00:44:29.780 that it is

00:44:30.440 better to

00:44:30.900 know what's

00:44:31.500 going on

00:44:32.180 than not

00:44:33.040 to know.

00:44:33.560 Louis,

00:44:33.800 thanks.

00:44:34.840 Thank you.

00:44:35.440 Thank you

00:44:35.720 very much.

00:44:36.800 All right,

00:44:37.100 there you have

00:44:37.340 Louis Brackpool,

00:44:38.220 our British

00:44:38.600 reporter and

00:44:39.260 the host of

00:44:40.220 our docuseries

00:44:40.920 on the Great

00:44:41.400 Reset.

00:44:42.000 Stay with

00:44:42.300 us.

00:44:42.860 My final

00:44:43.340 words are

00:44:43.680 next.

00:44:55.940 Well, that's

00:44:56.580 our show for

00:44:57.100 today.

00:44:58.080 We will have

00:44:59.280 a show on

00:45:00.060 Holiday Monday.

00:45:01.040 As you know,

00:45:01.360 we always do

00:45:01.960 shows on those

00:45:02.700 holidays.

00:45:03.280 So we'll have

00:45:03.960 a show on

00:45:04.360 Holiday Monday

00:45:04.860 and I'll be

00:45:05.560 back in the

00:45:06.220 studio on

00:45:06.920 Tuesday.

00:45:07.640 Thanks for

00:45:08.100 your support.

00:45:08.640 Have a great

00:45:09.140 weekend.

00:45:09.540 Until next

00:45:10.360 time, on

00:45:11.080 behalf of

00:45:11.480 all of us

00:45:11.920 here at

00:45:12.320 our Rebel

00:45:13.060 Western

00:45:13.640 Outpost,

00:45:14.420 to you at

00:45:14.680 home, good

00:45:15.000 night and

00:45:16.320 keep fighting

00:45:16.720 for freedom.

00:45:17.980 We need

00:45:18.460 an investigation

00:45:19.160 into what

00:45:19.780 happened with

00:45:20.260 the COVID

00:45:20.560 response.

00:45:21.540 I have

00:45:21.780 colleagues

00:45:22.240 here that

00:45:22.620 were in

00:45:22.800 the COVID

00:45:23.140 cabinet and

00:45:23.980 now that

00:45:24.820 it seems

00:45:25.100 the public

00:45:25.480 tide is

00:45:25.980 changing,

00:45:26.560 all of a

00:45:26.960 sudden they're

00:45:27.160 trying to

00:45:27.440 distance

00:45:27.680 themselves

00:45:28.040 from the

00:45:28.360 decisions

00:45:28.720 that they

00:45:29.060 made

00:45:29.340 there.

00:45:29.780 If people

00:45:30.240 start coming

00:45:30.840 on side

00:45:31.280 and start

00:45:31.720 seeing things

00:45:32.960 the right

00:45:33.280 way and

00:45:33.980 start representing

00:45:34.960 their

00:45:35.180 constituents

00:45:35.580 and representing

00:45:36.620 Albertans,

00:45:37.260 then I think

00:45:37.660 it's a good

00:45:37.980 thing.

00:45:38.420 We need

00:45:38.820 a justice

00:45:39.520 system that

00:45:40.220 ultimately

00:45:40.720 delivers justice

00:45:41.980 and adheres to

00:45:42.900 the laws of the

00:45:43.480 land.

00:45:43.820 I come from

00:45:44.600 a farming

00:45:45.260 family and a

00:45:46.420 farming community.

00:45:47.260 I know how

00:45:47.700 important agriculture

00:45:48.600 is and where my

00:45:49.380 food comes from.

00:45:50.320 This is a fight

00:45:50.860 that we have to

00:45:51.440 have.

00:45:52.140 And when we

00:45:52.460 get into fall

00:45:53.000 respiratory virus

00:45:53.880 season, we're

00:45:54.800 going to make

00:45:55.320 sure that we

00:45:55.740 have enough room

00:45:56.340 to be able to

00:45:56.900 handle that

00:45:57.400 surgeon-patient

00:45:58.140 load.

00:45:58.520 That's the

00:45:58.820 first step

00:45:59.280 I'd take.

00:45:59.800 Let's do

00:46:00.260 early testing

00:46:00.820 because when

00:46:01.480 you do

00:46:01.700 early testing,

00:46:02.460 there's just

00:46:02.720 so many options

00:46:03.440 available for

00:46:03.980 treatment.

00:46:04.480 That was the

00:46:05.340 intention of

00:46:06.140 why I did the

00:46:07.980 interview and I

00:46:08.720 hope that people

00:46:09.160 do that.

00:46:09.560 I'm so privileged

00:46:10.220 to be invited.

00:46:11.140 It doesn't matter

00:46:11.660 to me what party

00:46:12.680 you're part of,

00:46:13.840 but I have sold

00:46:14.640 25 memberships

00:46:15.500 that day.

00:46:16.140 It's not a

00:46:16.500 misunderstanding.

00:46:17.080 She said it.

00:46:17.600 Just apologize.

00:46:18.780 I've made lots

00:46:19.260 of mistakes.

00:46:19.720 I continue to

00:46:20.260 make them.

00:46:20.560 I try to make

00:46:20.920 as few as

00:46:21.320 possible, but

00:46:21.780 once you make

00:46:22.200 them, talk to

00:46:23.480 the team, apologize

00:46:24.280 and move on.

00:46:24.900 Yes, it's always

00:46:25.420 difficult when you're

00:46:26.320 in these debates

00:46:26.960 to try to make

00:46:27.680 your points and I

00:46:28.780 think the reason

00:46:30.120 why I did go a

00:46:31.080 little bit personal

00:46:31.720 and it's not what

00:46:32.420 I usually do because

00:46:33.340 I think it's

00:46:33.860 important to critique the

00:46:35.420 ideas and not the

00:46:36.420 individual.

00:46:39.800 Adam Sos here on

00:46:41.220 location for Rebel

00:46:42.420 News at the first

00:46:43.840 official UCP

00:46:45.120 leadership debate.

00:46:46.820 All seven leadership

00:46:48.220 hopefuls for the

00:46:49.000 United Conservative

00:46:49.580 Party of Canada will

00:46:51.120 be here tonight

00:46:52.060 debating it, arguing

00:46:53.360 over who has the

00:46:54.300 best ideas to lead

00:46:55.660 this province forward

00:46:56.640 to catch this full

00:46:57.540 report and all our

00:46:58.960 coverage of the UCP

00:47:00.020 leadership race.

00:47:01.180 Make sure to go to

00:47:02.260 ucpleadership.com.

00:47:04.180 You likely noticed

00:47:05.280 in that brief intro

00:47:06.240 that there was, well,

00:47:07.120 a helicopter in the

00:47:08.700 background and if

00:47:09.540 you're wondering where

00:47:10.160 we're at, the UCP

00:47:11.160 debate tonight is

00:47:12.040 actually taking place

00:47:12.960 in Medicine Hat at

00:47:14.560 the Halo Air

00:47:15.440 Ambulance Hangar.

00:47:16.940 A bit of an

00:47:17.320 unconventional location

00:47:18.540 for a debate but it

00:47:20.000 is providing one heck

00:47:21.020 of a background.

00:47:21.700 I want to take a moment

00:47:22.620 to clarify a comment I

00:47:24.060 made in a podcast last

00:47:25.560 week about cancer that

00:47:27.500 was misunderstood.

00:47:29.220 I know that cancer can

00:47:30.360 strike anyone at any

00:47:31.760 time without any

00:47:32.880 relation to lifestyle,

00:47:34.740 especially kids, but

00:47:36.040 not just kids.

00:47:36.960 It happened to my

00:47:37.600 mother-in-law too.

00:47:38.900 She was diagnosed with

00:47:40.020 ovarian cancer and only

00:47:41.580 survived three months

00:47:42.540 after diagnosis and by

00:47:44.380 the time they found it

00:47:45.700 she was so malnourished

00:47:47.000 that they weren't able

00:47:47.780 to continue her chemo

00:47:49.040 treatments.

00:47:49.480 That's why I became

00:47:50.720 such a proponent of

00:47:53.020 early detection, early

00:47:54.600 treatment, nutrition and

00:47:56.740 holistic medicine.

00:47:58.000 There are so many more

00:47:59.920 options if you diagnose

00:48:01.600 early and you can treat

00:48:03.220 early and that's what I

00:48:04.580 was trying to say, albeit

00:48:06.080 very awkwardly.

00:48:07.220 But it's in that vein that

00:48:08.760 is why I proposed health

00:48:10.460 spending accounts.

00:48:11.380 I know a lot of people

00:48:12.360 in there started to boo

00:48:13.180 as you were particularly

00:48:14.300 harassed on the cancer

00:48:15.600 comment.

00:48:16.020 I know a lot of people

00:48:16.820 out there took that to

00:48:18.260 mean that health

00:48:19.440 healthy lifestyles and

00:48:21.360 early testing can reduce

00:48:22.640 severity of outcomes.

00:48:23.920 Do you feel that this

00:48:24.880 along with some of the

00:48:25.560 articles out there

00:48:26.160 painting you as a kook 0.73

00:48:27.900 and an outsider are part

00:48:29.400 of a concerted effort to

00:48:30.380 attack a clearly defined

00:48:31.560 frontrunner?

00:48:32.300 You know, the Mayo

00:48:32.780 Clinic talks about early

00:48:34.120 testing and biomarkers.

00:48:36.000 This is why I-Corp

00:48:36.780 Blood Services has put

00:48:37.880 forward a proposal to the

00:48:39.180 government on a pilot

00:48:40.380 project to do exactly that.

00:48:41.680 Let's do early testing

00:48:42.520 because when you do

00:48:43.400 early testing, there's

00:48:44.300 just so many options

00:48:45.140 available for treatment.

00:48:45.960 That was the intention

00:48:47.420 of why I did the interview.

00:48:50.240 And I hope that people

00:48:50.860 do that.

00:48:51.400 Justin Trudeau plans to

00:48:52.560 bring in restrictions on

00:48:53.940 fertilizers as we've seen

00:48:55.440 in Denmark, which led to

00:48:56.400 absolutely massive protests.

00:48:58.780 And we've seen these sort of

00:48:59.760 ideas spreading throughout

00:49:00.740 Europe set to come here.

00:49:02.820 What can Alberta do beyond 0.97

00:49:04.140 simply issuing a letter and

00:49:05.640 making a statement to

00:49:06.920 ensure that farmers aren't

00:49:07.880 devastated in Alberta?

00:49:09.500 Yeah, this is something I

00:49:10.620 came out about last weekend.

00:49:11.840 It's something that almost all

00:49:12.960 candidates on stage tonight

00:49:14.200 agreed with, that we can't

00:49:15.400 allow that to happen,

00:49:16.500 especially because production

00:49:18.400 in agriculture and even

00:49:20.120 when it comes to energy is an

00:49:21.520 area of provincial

00:49:22.200 jurisdiction.

00:49:22.860 We have to stand up at a time

00:49:24.020 where we do have a food

00:49:25.920 shortage right across the

00:49:27.260 world.

00:49:27.880 Alberta has the ability to

00:49:29.620 feed the world.

00:49:30.380 I come from a farming family

00:49:32.480 in a farming community.

00:49:33.740 I know how important

00:49:34.600 agriculture is and where my

00:49:35.880 food comes from.

00:49:36.820 This is a fight that we have

00:49:37.840 to have.

00:49:38.300 I believe yourself and a

00:49:39.220 number of other people have

00:49:39.920 said, well, they don't want to

00:49:41.140 weigh into sort of the

00:49:41.920 judicial process, but when the

00:49:43.560 judiciary is categorically

00:49:44.700 overstepping, we're now

00:49:45.720 seeing, whether it be to

00:49:46.860 Mayor Leach or Pastor Arthur

00:49:48.020 Pawlowski, just categorical

00:49:49.640 repudiations of what the

00:49:51.060 courts did.

00:49:51.880 At what point is it the

00:49:52.880 responsibility of politicians

00:49:54.080 to publicly advocate when so

00:49:56.320 much wrong is being done by

00:49:57.340 the judiciary?

00:49:58.320 Well, the judiciary ultimately

00:49:59.920 needs to be held to account

00:50:01.420 and there's due process for

00:50:02.860 that and I'm in favour of

00:50:04.380 that due process.

00:50:05.240 Look, we need a justice system

00:50:07.320 that ultimately delivers

00:50:08.880 justice and adheres to the

00:50:10.420 laws of the land.

00:50:11.080 There's a process and, you

00:50:13.040 know, again, we've seen, you

00:50:15.240 know, some decisions recently

00:50:16.660 that exonerate those that

00:50:18.640 were accused early days.

00:50:21.100 Ultimately, that's good news

00:50:22.660 and that's justice.

00:50:23.900 You talked about the

00:50:24.460 resistance towards anger

00:50:25.800 responses, but I think for

00:50:26.980 many, you were probably

00:50:27.680 perhaps pursuing Danielle

00:50:29.260 Smith in the most fiery and

00:50:30.700 impassioned way.

00:50:32.120 How do you sort of balance

00:50:33.060 that sort of attacking her

00:50:34.800 head on, even some personal

00:50:35.840 jabs about not needing a talk

00:50:37.500 show host?

00:50:38.800 Yes, it's always difficult when

00:50:40.080 you're in these debates to

00:50:41.140 try to make your points and

00:50:42.600 I think the reason why I did

00:50:44.760 go a little bit personal and

00:50:45.940 it's not what I usually do

00:50:47.060 because I think it's

00:50:47.820 important to critique the

00:50:49.380 ideas and not the

00:50:50.400 individual, but I think it

00:50:51.860 was the comments around

00:50:53.020 cancer which were very

00:50:54.500 hurtful.

00:50:55.400 As a former Minister of

00:50:56.700 Community and Social

00:50:57.380 Services, I can tell you

00:50:58.800 I've dealt with a lot of

00:50:59.940 vulnerable individuals who

00:51:01.240 have suffered from cancer and

00:51:02.740 mental health issues

00:51:03.640 thereafter and we've all, you

00:51:05.660 know, been in contact with a

00:51:07.880 loved one who suffered, but

00:51:09.320 then mistakes can be made.

00:51:10.900 It's all right.

00:51:11.600 I've made mistakes and you

00:51:13.080 apologize, you move forward,

00:51:14.320 but the doubling down was not

00:51:16.460 appreciated.

00:51:17.340 What is a concrete action that

00:51:18.760 can actually be taken?

00:51:19.680 Because we heard similar

00:51:20.740 language on, well, we're not

00:51:21.920 going to allow the federal

00:51:22.540 government to mandate COVID

00:51:24.000 response and then they did.

00:51:25.260 We can say those things, but

00:51:26.280 what's a tangible way to do

00:51:27.480 that?

00:51:28.080 Yeah, we're already seeing other

00:51:29.320 provinces step up and just

00:51:30.660 say that we are not going to

00:51:32.160 accept those targets, which

00:51:34.860 will in fact, again, reduce

00:51:36.520 production because I think

00:51:37.840 when we look at the

00:51:38.460 production side, it's one

00:51:39.440 thing, the federal government

00:51:40.340 tries to make it about

00:51:41.920 emissions or limits on

00:51:43.340 fertilizer, but when it

00:51:44.820 comes to production, that is

00:51:46.000 in fact an area of

00:51:47.280 provincial jurisdiction and

00:51:48.620 that is protected in the

00:51:49.840 constitution.

00:51:50.840 So folks are certainly more

00:51:52.320 than entitled to sort of eat

00:51:53.520 breakfast with whoever they

00:51:54.600 please, but a number of

00:51:55.800 people sort of issued

00:51:56.440 concerns with the fact that

00:51:57.460 you were hanging out at a

00:51:59.100 Justin Trudeau liberal

00:52:00.200 stampede breakfast.

00:52:02.300 Do you have any response on

00:52:03.320 that, Graham?

00:52:03.640 Well, interestingly enough,

00:52:05.820 a lot of folks who vote

00:52:07.440 liberally, federally, vote

00:52:09.380 conservative provincially.

00:52:11.360 A tremendous amount of my

00:52:13.240 constituents were, I was so

00:52:15.040 privileged to be invited,

00:52:16.360 doesn't matter to me what

00:52:17.440 party you're part of, but I

00:52:19.440 have sold 25 memberships

00:52:20.660 that day, so it was

00:52:21.820 fantastic because many, many

00:52:23.480 of those folks come from my

00:52:24.600 constituency and they invited me

00:52:26.180 to come.

00:52:26.520 It was a huge privilege to be

00:52:27.620 there with them.

00:52:28.280 We need an investigation into

00:52:29.860 what happened with the COVID

00:52:30.820 response.

00:52:31.800 I have colleagues here that

00:52:32.880 were in the COVID cabinet and

00:52:34.260 now that it seems the public

00:52:35.740 tide is changing, that all of

00:52:37.180 a sudden they're trying to

00:52:37.720 distance themselves from the

00:52:38.620 decisions that they made

00:52:39.620 there.

00:52:40.200 I agree also that throwing

00:52:41.360 money at it isn't going to

00:52:42.780 solve the problem.

00:52:43.840 We have an AHS system that

00:52:45.180 needs a severe renovation.

00:52:46.420 They've had 15 years to get

00:52:47.640 it right and they've been

00:52:48.620 failing all the time.

00:52:49.880 We have a shortage of

00:52:50.700 healthcare workers.

00:52:51.460 We have emergency rooms being

00:52:52.440 shut down in rural Alberta.

00:52:54.060 We have a post-secondary

00:52:55.060 system in Alberta that doesn't

00:52:56.660 graduate the needs of our

00:52:58.020 society when it comes to

00:52:59.100 healthcare workers and other

00:53:00.740 educational opportunities.

00:53:04.560 And we have a college of

00:53:05.480 physicians that isn't helping

00:53:06.620 either.

00:53:07.820 We need to get the test done and

00:53:09.380 the treatment done that we

00:53:10.120 need.

00:53:10.480 All right, that's zero, Mr.

00:53:11.420 Lowen.

00:53:11.680 Thank you.

00:53:12.060 Many politicians are now

00:53:13.120 trying to sort of cash in on

00:53:14.680 the freedom sentiment,

00:53:16.060 celebrating Arthur Pawlowski's

00:53:17.460 win, calling Tamara Litch a

00:53:18.840 freedom fighter.

00:53:19.660 You're the only leadership

00:53:20.420 candidate who paid a political

00:53:21.700 price for standing up when it

00:53:22.840 wasn't popular.

00:53:23.860 What do you make of people

00:53:24.940 sort of attempting to cash in

00:53:26.560 on that now?

00:53:27.460 Well, I think it's a little

00:53:29.120 hypocritical, but again, if

00:53:30.940 people start coming on side 0.75

00:53:32.300 and start seeing things the

00:53:34.120 right way and start representing

00:53:35.980 their constituents and

00:53:37.020 representing Albertans, then I

00:53:38.560 think it's a good thing.

00:53:39.520 So much ado has been made about

00:53:40.960 Danielle Smith's comments last

00:53:42.600 week.

00:53:43.300 Towards the end there, the

00:53:44.400 crowd became a little agitated.

00:53:46.260 I think for some people reading

00:53:47.700 that, obviously, people have to

00:53:49.040 be careful when talking about

00:53:50.300 cancer.

00:53:51.200 But I think for some, it was

00:53:52.720 taken as, and some I spoke with,

00:53:54.420 Danielle Smith was saying that

00:53:55.440 that there can be positive

00:53:56.660 health outcomes, even with

00:53:58.020 serious illnesses, if there's

00:53:59.900 additional health care

00:54:00.680 opportunities.

00:54:02.100 You seem particularly sort of

00:54:04.120 upset about that for obvious

00:54:05.360 reasons.

00:54:05.640 I completely understand that.

00:54:06.880 But do you think that there's a

00:54:07.920 bit of sort of scandal generating

00:54:09.400 for comments that were maybe

00:54:10.440 taken a little bit out of hand?

00:54:12.460 Oh, everybody makes mistakes.

00:54:13.640 But when you make it, don't call

00:54:15.100 it a misunderstanding.

00:54:16.240 Apologize and move on.

00:54:17.660 You know, it's just it's just

00:54:19.780 not appropriate.

00:54:20.260 And I don't think she should have

00:54:21.840 done that.

00:54:22.180 But at this stage, she needs to

00:54:25.020 backtrack it.

00:54:25.640 And I think that would be the

00:54:26.240 best thing.

00:54:26.600 But, you know, I'm not here to

00:54:27.920 talk about her. 0.54

00:54:28.480 I just think that I'm speaking

00:54:29.520 for a lot of people that went

00:54:30.460 through death in their family

00:54:31.880 from cancer.

00:54:32.480 And and it's not a pleasant

00:54:33.840 experience.

00:54:34.380 And I frankly don't think people

00:54:35.580 should just throw it out there

00:54:37.120 that they believe that something

00:54:38.260 can be accomplished through

00:54:39.520 natural path methods.

00:54:40.480 Now, let's be clear.

00:54:41.360 I'm I'm under a natural path

00:54:42.920 right now.

00:54:43.380 I've been under their care for

00:54:45.880 about three months now because

00:54:47.080 that's what enables me to do what

00:54:48.280 I need to do during this

00:54:49.000 leadership race.

00:54:49.600 And I think they they certainly

00:54:51.080 have their calling and they're

00:54:52.340 they're excellent at what they

00:54:53.480 do.

00:54:53.680 And I think alternative

00:54:54.680 medicines should be what we

00:54:56.440 look at under doctors advice

00:54:59.280 and doctors, you know, look at a

00:55:00.580 lot of different things.

00:55:01.220 And we need to be open minded

00:55:02.640 about health care because one

00:55:04.340 size fits all doesn't fit

00:55:05.420 everybody for health care.

00:55:06.440 We have rural Alberta and we

00:55:07.940 have urban Alberta and we need

00:55:09.040 to make sure that we have

00:55:10.040 health care ready across

00:55:10.840 Alberta.

00:55:11.140 And that means not access to a

00:55:12.840 lineup.

00:55:13.240 It means actually access to

00:55:14.520 health care.

00:55:14.880 And I just think that it's

00:55:16.020 important that that Albertans

00:55:18.040 feel that somebody's speaking for

00:55:19.540 them on the issue of cancer and

00:55:21.140 cancer is a great killer right

00:55:22.300 now.

00:55:22.540 And so just confirm you agree

00:55:23.800 maybe with some of her sentiment

00:55:24.780 as far as providing better

00:55:25.980 health care, but just the nature

00:55:27.500 of her comments towards cancer

00:55:28.680 may be a little inappropriate.

00:55:29.680 It's not a misunderstanding.

00:55:31.140 She said it.

00:55:31.680 Just just apologize.

00:55:32.840 I've made lots of mistakes.

00:55:33.780 I continue to make them.

00:55:34.640 I try to make as few as possible.

00:55:35.780 But once you make them, talk to

00:55:37.600 the team, apologize and move on.

00:55:38.900 As a follow up to that, the

00:55:40.140 sentiment of sort of separation is

00:55:41.700 at an all time high.

00:55:42.580 People are very upset.

00:55:43.780 What would you do differently within

00:55:45.500 that constitutional framework to get

00:55:47.440 Alberta a better deal?

00:55:48.340 Well, it's interesting that you ask

00:55:50.740 that.

00:55:50.940 My riding has a really, really

00:55:52.900 diverse population.

00:55:54.040 We have a lot of folks that are

00:55:56.340 angry and frustrated.

00:55:57.340 Part of that is our fault.

00:55:59.140 We have used people in this

00:56:02.500 province's collateral damage in a

00:56:04.340 fight between left and right,

00:56:05.500 whether that was through COVID

00:56:06.880 policy, whether that's through

00:56:08.080 various things.

00:56:08.800 There's a tremendous amount of

00:56:10.500 desire, I think, to actually work

00:56:12.000 together and to collaborate.

00:56:13.000 There are angry folks.

00:56:14.140 We have to be able to bring people

00:56:16.100 back in.

00:56:16.680 We can't do that unless you lead by

00:56:18.240 example.

00:56:18.780 So I'm hoping that as we bring

00:56:20.580 these diverse conservative

00:56:21.780 candidates around the table, that

00:56:23.520 we're able to manifest a really

00:56:25.140 strong and competent group of

00:56:27.280 people that speak to everybody.

00:56:29.180 We haven't spoken to people.

00:56:31.080 Do you know how important it is in

00:56:33.280 the midst of all of that to be able to

00:56:34.780 have a conversation to deescalate

00:56:36.680 misinformation?

00:56:37.680 That was a huge, huge loss on our

00:56:39.680 part.

00:56:40.680 And instead of using the opportunities

00:56:42.680 to really build at a time, and I have

00:56:44.680 to tell you, I was a minister of

00:56:45.680 culture, multiculturalism, and the

00:56:46.680 status of women at that time.

00:56:48.680 And what I saw was tremendous

00:56:50.680 compassion and giving, you know,

00:56:52.680 through the churches and community

00:56:54.680 associations and gurdwaras and temples

00:56:56.680 and mosques.

00:56:57.680 In the midst of all of this, 90% of the

00:57:01.680 people went and took care of seniors.

00:57:04.680 They created baskets for people and

00:57:06.680 took them to their communities.

00:57:08.680 They left food out on doorsteps.

00:57:10.680 I mean, our family were singers.

00:57:12.680 We went and sang outside on doorsteps

00:57:14.680 at Christmas for senior citizens.

00:57:16.680 We made sure that we dropped off CDs

00:57:18.680 and information for people so that

00:57:20.680 they were able to access things at a

00:57:22.680 time when they were so alone and

00:57:23.680 isolated.

00:57:24.680 I have to tell you, as much as I

00:57:26.680 understand the pain and the

00:57:28.680 suffering, I also saw tremendous,

00:57:31.680 tremendous strength in our

00:57:32.680 province.

00:57:33.680 And if we have the right leader to

00:57:35.680 be able to build on that strength

00:57:36.680 and that capacity, that's the

00:57:37.680 Alberta I know.

00:57:38.680 That's what I grew up with.

00:57:39.680 That is the vision that has to come

00:57:42.680 forward from any movement that

00:57:44.680 decides and has the privilege to be

00:57:45.680 able to lead this province forward.

00:57:47.680 Because if we don't lead by

00:57:49.680 example, if the opportunity to be

00:57:52.680 able to have a discussion, no

00:57:53.680 matter how difficult it is, to

00:57:55.680 not shy away from a robust debate,

00:57:57.680 to be able to bring things to the

00:57:59.680 floor, you'll never know where

00:58:00.680 people stand.

00:58:01.680 You won't honestly have an

00:58:02.680 authentic idea of where people

00:58:03.680 are.

00:58:04.680 So I'm really hoping that with a

00:58:06.680 different approach and a

00:58:07.680 thoughtful and kind person at the

00:58:10.680 helm who is competent, who's been

00:58:12.680 elected for seven years, who's had

00:58:14.680 multiple portfolios and a person

00:58:16.680 who I love Alberta more than I can

00:58:18.680 even explain to you.

00:58:19.680 And I'm just compelled to be able

00:58:20.680 to give back.

00:58:21.680 And there's really not much more to

00:58:22.680 it for me than that.

00:58:23.680 There's no special interest.

00:58:24.680 There's no machine behind this

00:58:26.680 team.

00:58:27.680 This is a simple desire to be able

00:58:29.680 to give back to a province that

00:58:30.680 has given me so much.

00:58:31.680 I think for many Albertans with

00:58:33.680 the separation sentiment being

00:58:34.680 higher than Quebec now, the

00:58:36.680 problem is for years and years

00:58:37.680 we've been giving billions of

00:58:38.680 dollars away, paying the bill for

00:58:39.680 the rest of Canada and getting a

00:58:41.680 very raw deal.

00:58:42.680 A politician is coming up and

00:58:44.680 saying, no, we're putting an end

00:58:46.680 to this.

00:58:47.680 How do you actually change things

00:58:48.680 compared to we're working on it,

00:58:49.680 we're working on it, nothing

00:58:50.680 happens and actually stand up for

00:58:51.680 Alberta?

00:58:52.680 Yeah.

00:58:53.680 Good question.

00:58:54.680 So just saying that, you know,

00:58:55.680 you're going to put an end to it

00:58:56.680 doesn't mean that you are going to

00:58:57.680 put an end to it.

00:58:58.680 Again, just going back to my

00:58:59.680 previous comments.

00:59:00.680 And I said it's a tough task.

00:59:02.680 And right now, MPs have a

00:59:04.680 significant role.

00:59:05.680 That is their whole job to fight

00:59:07.680 with Ottawa for our rights.

00:59:08.680 And we most definitely have to have

00:59:11.680 a conservative government in place

00:59:14.680 for the next mandate.

00:59:15.680 I mean, all of these things are

00:59:17.680 going to help.

00:59:18.680 But one thing that we can do right

00:59:20.680 away, I talked about security of

00:59:21.680 supply.

00:59:22.680 Geopolitical events right now have

00:59:24.680 actually poised Alberta in a very

00:59:26.680 unique situation to be the supplier

00:59:29.680 of energy, to be the supplier of

00:59:31.680 food.

00:59:32.680 And we need to make sure that we

00:59:33.680 have a strong Western identity with

00:59:35.680 the other provinces and we make

00:59:37.680 more alliances down south.

00:59:39.680 And that collaborative is going to

00:59:41.680 put more pressure on Ottawa.

00:59:43.680 Let me just give you an example.

00:59:44.680 Germany is moving more towards coal

00:59:47.680 powered energy right now.

00:59:49.680 And Trudeau was talking to Germany

00:59:51.680 about LNG, right?

00:59:52.680 We just need to put more and more

00:59:54.680 and more pressure about the value

00:59:55.680 proposition.

00:59:56.680 I think it's doable, but I can't be

00:59:59.680 breaking the law.

01:00:00.680 I mean, that's not how things work

01:00:01.680 here.

01:00:02.680 That's not why my family came to

01:00:03.680 Canada.

01:00:04.680 They came here for stability, safety,

01:00:06.680 and predictability.

01:00:07.680 Well, the first official UCP

01:00:08.680 leadership debate has wrapped up

01:00:10.680 here at the Halo Air Ambulance

01:00:12.680 Hangar in Medicine Hat.

01:00:14.680 It was great to see the people

01:00:15.680 actually engaging, going at it with

01:00:18.680 each other, some real back and

01:00:19.680 forth.

01:00:20.680 Certainly not what we saw at the

01:00:21.680 last federal leadership debate.

01:00:23.680 We also had an extensive

01:00:24.680 opportunity to ask some real tough

01:00:26.680 questions during the Scrum.

01:00:27.680 It's great to have this type of

01:00:29.680 access and to be covering the

01:00:30.680 story and asking questions you

01:00:31.680 need answers to.

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01:00:36.680 As always, I want to thank you so

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01:00:38.680 For Revel News, I'm Adam Sos.

01:00:41.680 Hey, everybody.

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