Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ A “Civil Liberties” Group Calls for the Burning of More Churches

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. It's just a crazy thing. The head of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association

00:00:05.000 is cheering on the burning of Catholic churches. I can't believe it, but instead of, you know,

00:00:13.100 expressing regret, she's doubling down. I'll prove it to you. But first, let me invite you

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00:00:47.820 Tonight, a Civil Liberties leader calls for the burning of more churches. It's July 5th,

00:01:02.300 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:03.880 Hey, did you see that absolutely terrible fire in Lytton, a village in the B.C. interior? Seeing the

00:01:31.940 flames engulfed this little village and the people fleeing for their lives reminded me of what Fort

00:01:36.940 McMurray looked like in 2016, when a wildfire consumed so much of that city and forced the

00:01:43.220 entire evacuation of the city, almost 100,000 people. It was a miracle. No one died in Fort

00:01:49.520 McMurray. The news says that two people are presumed dead in Lytton, and that the number could be higher.

00:01:57.920 People left so quickly, it's uncertain if people are missing or just they moved out.

00:02:02.920 Let me quote two interesting sentences from this story on Global News.

00:02:07.600 Forensic team arrives in Lytton, B.C. Investigation into deadly wildfire gears up.

00:02:13.860 So a forensic team is there. An investigation into the cause and human cost of a devastating wildfire

00:02:21.920 in Lytton, B.C. appeared ready to begin Saturday as RCMP forensic teams arrived at the village.

00:02:28.040 The human cost, they'll be looking for casualties, but also what caused it. It was a village. It was

00:02:34.960 not a forest. It was not a campground. A campground might have had a campfire, a forest. Well,

00:02:40.880 fire there might be caused by lightning or maybe from sparks from a train passing through.

00:02:46.140 But this is fire in a town. Here's another line from the story. Lytton First Nation acting chief

00:02:52.880 John Hoggan told Global News on Saturday that members of the community were spread as wide as

00:02:58.200 the lower mainland, Squamish, Kamloops, and Kelowna. For many, it's traumatic. They still haven't been

00:03:03.340 able to really wrap their head around that they have no home to go back to, he said.

00:03:08.780 So just to be clear, that's the chief of an Indian band. I call Lytton a village. It's pretty tiny,

00:03:14.580 250 people. But around the town are different First Nations, about 800 people. So it's a lot

00:03:22.340 smaller than Fort McMurray was. But let me read just two more sentences about Lytton from that same

00:03:26.060 story. An estimated 90% of the structures in the community were destroyed by the fire,

00:03:31.660 which broke out sometime before 6 p.m. Wednesday. On Friday, operators of the Lytton Chinese History

00:03:37.900 Museum, which focuses on the contributions of thousands of Chinese miners, railway workers,

00:03:43.880 merchants, and farmers, confirmed the structure had burned to the ground.

00:03:48.520 Isn't that a shame? And isn't that interesting? Very diverse community, First Nations, Chinese

00:03:52.940 History Museum. I learned that Lytton calls itself Canada's hotspot, because for whatever reason,

00:04:02.000 it is the place that often has the highest temperature in the country. And it actually did last week.

00:04:07.240 Again, as so happens, a new record. So things were really dry and hot out there.

00:04:13.200 So was this fire natural? As fires often are. In the hotspot of the country, was it natural?

00:04:20.660 Or was it what Drea saw when she was visiting other First Nations communities in the B.C. interior

00:04:25.880 just days earlier? In this heat wave, in this dry weather, arsonists torching churches as an act of

00:04:33.300 political revenge and terrorism. Was it that? Drea even mentioned that in her report, eerily prescient.

00:04:40.060 Arson is always terrible. But imagine arson when the whole area is dry as kindling.

00:04:45.140 Behind me is what's left of St. Gregory's Church. The church is attached to a small grave site

00:04:54.180 on the Osoyoos Indian ban. It's the second church to be left in shambles. 1.00

00:05:02.860 From the looks of what's inside the church and the rubble, it doesn't appear like this church was

00:05:08.000 being actually used, other than, like I said, being attached to this small grave site.

00:05:14.020 But what's different about this location is just how in the middle of nowhere it is. And not just the

00:05:19.640 middle of nowhere, the middle of a desert. I don't know if you guys know this, but B.C. has had

00:05:24.360 issue after issue with fires. If this is proven to be arson, what type of sick individual or

00:05:31.040 individuals set fire to a place like this where no one's going to catch it? It's a miracle it was

00:05:37.120 caught. How many lives could have been ruined because of that action?

00:05:43.160 So is that what happened in Lytton, a First Nations area? The Yellow Pages say there are four

00:05:50.160 churches in that town. Was one of them torched by an arsonist, but instead of just burning the church,

00:05:56.000 it burned the whole village and killed two people, maybe more? Is that what happened? I don't know.

00:06:01.080 And frankly, if it were what happened, I don't know if we'd find out. Some crimes we're just not

00:06:06.140 allowed to know. Does anyone know what that mass shooting was all about in Las Vegas four years ago?

00:06:11.560 You know, the largest mass shooting in U.S. history, 60 dead, nearly 1,000 injured, that guy

00:06:17.640 holed up in a casino hotel. You know, they still haven't released a motive on that one, which means

00:06:22.880 they never will. I don't know why, but it doesn't build trust in the system, does it?

00:06:28.220 Well, if it turns out that this fire that consumed a whole village and killed two people was by anti-church

00:06:35.760 arsonists, I don't know if you're going to hear about it from Trudeau's RCMP because

00:06:40.240 he spent a fair bit of time whipping up anger at these churches, hasn't he? And

00:06:44.460 not much time raging against hate crimes or terrorism or arson as he likely would have

00:06:49.820 done if they were Muslim mosques or Jewish synagogues. I wonder if we'll ever really know

00:06:55.240 what started the fire, but here's what we do know. The same day as the fire, a woman named

00:07:01.620 Harsha Walia was responding to a news report about other church fires. You see that? It's a story

00:07:08.460 in Vice News about two more Catholic churches being torched in Canada, and she replies, burn

00:07:15.480 it all down. Pretty simple, four words. You don't need any more words when you're that plain

00:07:22.020 spoken. What does she want? To burn it down. How much of it? All of it. What? Churches, Christians, 1.00

00:07:31.600 Catholics, society, whatever, burn it all down. Okay, but Harsha Walia is the executive director 1.00

00:07:37.300 of the BC Civil Liberties Association. I'm not kidding. Here's what the BC Civil Liberties

00:07:43.400 Association says about itself. The BC Civil Liberties Association is the oldest and most active

00:07:50.520 civil liberties and human rights group in Canada. I don't think that's true. The BCCLA has been

00:07:56.720 actively advancing human rights and civil liberties through litigation, law reform, community-based

00:08:02.220 legal advocacy, and public engagement and education for the last half century. And they're a registered

00:08:08.020 charity, of course, and they're supposed to do good things to use the law to help people,

00:08:13.040 to protect people, to fight against harm using the law. And there's Harsha Walia, not just some

00:08:19.500 staffer, not just some intern. She's the boss. She's the executive director. She's the head of the 1.00

00:08:26.580 Civil Liberties Agency activists for all of BC. She runs a charity by that name, and she is calling

00:08:34.420 for hate crimes, for arson, really for terrorism. It's been almost a week and not a word from the

00:08:41.480 BCCLA about this. I checked. No apology, no retraction, no announcement that Harsha Walia is

00:08:47.820 taking some time off for personal reasons. None of that, not a peep. I tweeted that shocking

00:08:53.800 juxtaposition. Her insane call for hate crimes next to her civil liberties bio. And she has now made 1.00

00:09:01.780 her Twitter account private, so you can't see it. But I actually can. I've been following her on

00:09:07.080 Twitter for a while because she's so out there, so I'm not locked out. And I've got to say,

00:09:13.380 far from being repentant, she's indignant. She hasn't had second thoughts about her tweet. It's still up.

00:09:20.100 And she's raging about anyone who's upset by her call to burn it all down. Locked my Twitter after

00:09:27.920 receiving over 200 trolling messages in response to a tweet one week ago. I've been reported and

00:09:36.340 tagged into Vancouver police, RCMP, CSIS, CBSA, employer, provincial and federal government,

00:09:43.300 and with dozens of calls for me to be charged for terrorism and hate crime. Yeah, I mean, look at

00:09:51.020 her tweet again. She refers to a news report of churches being torched, arson, and she says,

00:09:56.400 burn it all down. Not a lot of wiggle room there. But I'm serious. She says, no, no. Responding to

00:10:03.720 reports about arson with burn it all down doesn't actually mean burn it all down. Let it burn,

00:10:09.780 burn it down, is expression of rage and sadness that many survivors in the downtown east side whom

00:10:16.400 I have spoken with are saying, though not universally. And I recognize there is nuance that tweet doesn't

00:10:22.720 capture, nor was it intended to, and tweet is mine, just providing context. What? DTE sign that it's the

00:10:32.440 downtown east side. That's a rough part of Vancouver. Lots of homeless people. So many people drunk or on

00:10:38.320 drugs. Very dangerous place. I think it's the worst few blocks anywhere in Canada. So she's blaming

00:10:44.520 someone in the downtown east side for putting that phrase into her head. I don't even, I just have

00:10:51.740 never seen such a pitiful excuse. Then she says, thank you for care, everyone. I have been informed

00:10:57.960 there are police complaints being filed against me, which is beyond words. But this is moment for

00:11:04.020 solidarity with indigenous nations and not ridiculous Twitter trying to derail and distract

00:11:08.460 from real issues. Come what may, we will win. It's beyond words that you've been reported. You react

00:11:16.240 to churches being burned out of political hatred with the phrase burn it all down. And you're surprised

00:11:23.180 that people are reporting to the police. We will win. Who's we? Win what? The arsonists or something?

00:11:31.540 And then she writes, the first person to tweet referenced my position on abolishing police.

00:11:38.560 Then cops, conservatives, Zionists, they're the worst, and right-wing pundits, oh, they're the super 1.00

00:11:44.420 worst, piled on with their scores to settle. This is both personal and also a distraction from staying

00:11:51.040 focused on justice and accountability for survivors. What's that Zionist bit? How did that sneak in 0.97

00:11:56.740 there? Scores to settle? She just raged against churches, said burn them all down. And she's 0.97

00:12:03.560 talking about other people settling scores? By the way, does a single word I've read from her sound

00:12:10.160 like she actually spends a minute of her day on civil liberties work? I don't know if there's a single

00:12:15.520 civil liberties thing they have ever done over there. We have over 1,800 lockdown cases. We're

00:12:21.920 fighting for citizens across Canada, probably close to 100 cases in BC, maybe more. We take people of

00:12:28.580 every religious and racial and political stripe, but she's raging on about Jews or Zionists or whatever.

00:12:35.080 What are you doing? This one made me chuckle. This guy said, wow, and Walia is a representative of 0.99

00:12:42.520 BC civil liberties who sits on many government committees. Yeah, pretty crazy. And she writes 1.00

00:12:48.780 back, here is the president of Vancouver Police Union and the BC Police Association trying to

00:12:54.940 intimidate me. For 15 years before I had the support I do now, people have thought that reporting

00:13:00.180 me to employers or funders or the state will make a difference. Jokes on you, Ralph. Trying to

00:13:06.160 intimidate you. He didn't say anything other than he was shocked by you. Jokes on you, Ralph? What joke?

00:13:13.300 But that funders thing got me thinking. Who funds the BC civil liberties association? I know who funds

00:13:19.620 our civil liberties project, thousands of ordinary people with small donations. So I looked at the

00:13:26.560 BCCLA's financial statement and last year they received a $380,000 grant from something called

00:13:32.880 the BC Law Foundation. What's the BC Law Foundation? Well, it's a public interest foundation that tries

00:13:39.220 to improve the law, but it gets its money in a weird way. I actually don't like how it gets its money.

00:13:45.100 When a client of a lawyer gives their lawyer some money to hold for them, for a purchase, in trust for

00:13:50.840 something, whatever. It earns a tiny bit of interest, right? Well, and this is the weird part, and I think

00:13:57.300 it's kind of grifting. They take that. The BC Law Foundation just takes the interest from all that

00:14:04.560 money for everyone. They just take it. They don't ask you. And then they spend it on their do-goodery,

00:14:09.980 some of which is good, but much of which is just hard left-wing ideology. Like I say, they don't raise

00:14:15.300 the money voluntarily. They just take it from clients. They just take it. Can you imagine any

00:14:20.620 other profession saying, oh yeah, you had some interest coming to you, but we'll just pocket

00:14:25.100 that, thanks. Well, guess what? We here at Rebel News have lots of legal work in BC. So the Law

00:14:32.560 Foundation's grant to the BCCLA includes some of our money. Some of our rebel money is being spent on

00:14:40.960 the salary for Harsha Walia, that weird, hater, anti-Zionist, anti-police, anti-church cheerleader. 0.68

00:14:49.880 Now look, I'm not for prosecuting hate speech, but I'm going to guess that Harsha Walia is at least 1.00

00:14:54.960 against her list of enemies, conservatives, Jews, churches, whatever. I think she's absolutely over

00:15:02.120 the line of the left's hate speech test. I mean, imagine if she was talking that way about mosques,

00:15:07.780 burn them all down. But I do object to my own money being used to whip up religious bigotry

00:15:13.080 and to call for criminal violence, even if she says she didn't mean it.

00:15:17.240 So I asked our lawyers to draft a letter to the BC Law Foundation, not as just some busybody meddler,

00:15:23.960 but literally as someone whose own money has been taken from me and given to this race-baiting,

00:15:30.700 arson-chearing nut bar. I want my money back. And frankly, if the BC Law Foundation has any morals,

00:15:37.760 which is an open question, they should rescind their $380,000 grant to the BCCLA.

00:15:44.240 That's not censorship. That's just stopping to give free money to a crazy violence cheerleader. I mean, 0.99

00:15:50.620 she says she's got more funding than ever. Unfortunately, I believe her. Fine. So let her

00:15:56.000 raise her own money from George Soros or woke white leftists who hate the church because of daddy issues

00:16:02.080 or whatever. Fine. Just stop using my money, okay? If you want to see our lawyer's letter,

00:16:07.560 go to findthearsonist.com. We posted it there. Stay with us for a moment.

00:16:12.500 Well, yesterday was the 4th of July. I enjoyed seeing one of the world's richest men, Mark Zuckerberg,

00:16:30.320 on some sort of surfing device carrying the American flag. It was so good. At first,

00:16:35.820 I thought it was photoshopped or one of those deep fakes. You know, I think it's the most pro-American

00:16:40.880 thing Zuckerberg has done in a long time. Other billionaires had their tweets too. Here's Elon Musk

00:16:47.160 showing himself as a young man saying, bless America. Doesn't he look good there? I really

00:16:53.300 like that photo. But I saw what Elon Musk was saying in Chinese at the same time. And that's when I realized

00:17:01.660 that I was easily fooled. See, while in English he was saying, bless America, this is Elon Musk's

00:17:08.960 Chinese language social media page. Because you understand, Twitter is banned in China. Now,

00:17:17.300 you may not speak Chinese, but I think you can understand what that is in the top left. That

00:17:22.580 hammer and sickle and the number 100. That is Elon Musk. At the same time as he's saying,

00:17:29.240 bless America, is blessing the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party. He's not saying,

00:17:37.840 I love China. And there's a lot to love about China. The people, the food, the history, the archaeology,

00:17:44.420 the culture. No, no, no. He is specifically saying he loves the Chinese Communist Party. He's not alone.

00:17:52.500 Every big business is getting in on it. Nike said they are a Chinese company and they stand with the

00:17:59.900 Communist Party of China. I'm worried about it. When billionaires go that way, you know they'll pull

00:18:05.560 the culture with them. Joining us now to talk about the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist

00:18:10.580 Party is our friend Gordon G. Chang, author and commentator. His new article in Newsweek is called

00:18:16.080 China's Communist Party at 100. No more foreign rescues. Gordon, great to see you again. And by the

00:18:22.180 way, folks, if you're not following Gordon, please do that right now on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang.

00:18:28.500 You'll learn more about China than you will anywhere else. Gordon, I'm afraid of the fact that the 1.00

00:18:35.160 leaders of the West are so clearly allying themselves or at least hedging their bets with

00:18:40.340 China. Elon Musk, Nike, all the big brands. Should I be worried? You definitely should be worried,

00:18:47.280 Ezra. What we are seeing is the American elites, business, political, aligning themselves with

00:18:53.720 China's Communist Party against Americans. And it's not just the CEO of Nike and not just Elon Musk. 0.79

00:19:01.020 You have, for instance, Charlie Munger, the number two at Berkshire Hathaway in that infamous interview

00:19:06.580 with CNBC saying, oh, you know, he would like to have China's financial system in the U.S. So really

00:19:13.840 what there is on display is this unabashed cravedness right now. And that means we don't have anybody

00:19:20.520 defending our society against a malicious Chinese regime. Yeah. You know, that Charlie Munger 1.00

00:19:26.460 interview was shocking. I didn't know what he looked like. I mean, we all know Warren Buffett

00:19:31.840 as the friendly face of Berkshire Hathaway, but Charlie Munger is his right hand man. Let me just

00:19:36.780 play a quick clip of that to show people he wasn't just saying he wanted the Chinese financial

00:19:40.860 system. He was approving of their kidnapping of China's Elon Musk, a multi-billionaire named Jack Ma.

00:19:50.240 He said he was pleased with it. Take a look at this crazy interview. Charlie, you said

00:19:55.520 communist China is doing all the things that we should be doing right now. And I can't help 0.94

00:19:59.860 but think of what they've done to Jack Ma. That amuses me. What about what they've done

00:20:04.020 to Jack Ma? He's kind of disappeared. Well, yes, but Jack Ma's one of the swangers. So they 1.00

00:20:10.260 just cut his, they said, to hell with you. He basically gave speech when he said to a one-party

00:20:19.020 state, well, you guys are a bunch of jerks and don't know what you're doing. And I know what

00:20:23.040 I'm doing and I want to do it better. And he was going to wade into banking and no rules and just

00:20:28.520 do whatever he pleased. He also brought banking to a lot of unbanked people. The Chinese communists 1.00

00:20:33.240 did the right thing. They just called in Jack Ma and say, you aren't going to do it, Sonny.

00:20:36.680 And, and, uh, I wish we had a, I don't want the, all of the Chinese system, but I certainly would 1.00

00:20:44.280 like to have the financial part of it in my own country. I mean, it, I can't believe he said that

00:20:51.200 and that that is just normal discourse. That would have been like 50 years ago. Uh, I think if a tycoon

00:20:58.340 in America would speak that way about the Soviet union, they would be marginalized in polite company.

00:21:05.300 But Charlie Munger is probably saluted as a farsighted captain of industry.

00:21:12.240 Yes. And that's really throughout the corporate suites. So this is not just an isolated interview.

00:21:18.020 We're seeing so many instances of this, you know, businesses, amoral, they just there to make money.

00:21:23.560 Um, it's really up to, um, Americans, uh, expressing themselves at the ballot box to make sure that

00:21:30.600 companies cannot do this anymore. And this really is going to be important for us to cut those economic

00:21:37.020 ties with China because China exploits every point of contact with our society. They're overwhelming us. 0.99

00:21:43.740 The FBI is overwhelmed. Local law enforcement is overwhelmed. Governments are overwhelmed.

00:21:48.280 And we need to cut those ties until we can be sure that we can manage this unrelenting and malicious

00:21:54.380 assault from Beijing. Yeah. Now I just read your essay in Newsweek and I'm always thrilled to see you

00:22:00.640 published there because I know they have, uh, I mean, they're a legacy media. They have a longstanding

00:22:06.420 reputation. They have a large readership and I'm so pleased your message is getting out. You talk about

00:22:11.540 the hundred year anniversary of the communist party. You have a few points that I had sort of forgotten

00:22:15.820 that it was the West itself that bailed out the communist party in key moments after Tiananmen

00:22:22.520 Square. It was George H.W. Bush who sort of let China come back into the brotherhood of nations. Um, 0.89

00:22:30.280 Clinton with the trade deal 20 odd years ago that really put China on the path for economic dominance.

00:22:37.200 Uh, China may not be quite as strong as it looks and the West may be giving it too much help. I,

00:22:44.960 so I found little glimmers of hope in your article. What do you think of that?

00:22:50.700 I, I do hope that there are glimmers. Um, the problem is that, uh, we have an administration in

00:22:56.580 Washington and we certainly got one in Ottawa that would like to help the communist party. Um,

00:23:02.180 and so right now, um, we Americans have got to prevent our president from doing what he would like

00:23:07.960 to do, which is to, um, establish and deepen economic relations. Now Biden has done

00:23:14.860 some good things on China, but nonetheless, um, he hasn't gone far enough, especially considering

00:23:20.260 the situation that we now face, um, because China's assaults on us has gotten worse and worse over time 0.98

00:23:27.100 because they're testing the new president. Uh, and, uh, Biden is not doing the things that are

00:23:32.320 necessary at this particular moment. You know, it's interesting up here in Canada, Gordon, of course,

00:23:36.880 uh, the two Michaels, Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, they were kidnapped. It's almost 950 days

00:23:43.100 ago. Um, and you would think that that would have started to unravel the diplomatic ties between the

00:23:49.820 two countries. I think it, uh, I think it has on the Chinese side, they're getting more and more

00:23:54.440 voluble against Canada. I haven't seen anything in return. Let me show you something that was tweeted

00:23:59.840 by an official Chinese. I think he's a consul in South America. So I don't know why they're using him to do

00:24:05.840 this, but this is a cartoon he tweeted against Justin Trudeau. It's a, it's a terrible picture

00:24:12.100 of Trudeau saying, we killed your men. We stole your land. We killed your men. We buried your child.

00:24:19.520 Let's reconcile. And he's holding, holding some, uh, feathers as if he's talking to Aboriginal people

00:24:24.960 in Canada. Right now we're dealing with some tough issues about our history involving First Nations.

00:24:30.980 And for a Chinese government to publish this cartoon that is so clearly an attack and Lee 0.69

00:24:39.000 Yang is the name of the diplomat. And he says, do you think your so-called reconciliation is worth

00:24:44.960 showing off? That's from a diplomat, Gordon. That's from a diplomat. And we're just taking it. We're just

00:24:51.680 rolling over. Well, and also, you know, you go back to China's former diplomat, um, to Canada,

00:24:58.700 who actually talked about, uh, white supremacy as really being the motivation for holding

00:25:04.740 Meng Wanzhou, the Huawei CFO, who is now subject to extradition proceedings because the U.S. Justice

00:25:11.620 Department wants her. Um, and so, uh, basically China is trying to stir racial division in Canada 0.99

00:25:19.140 as it's trying to do in the United States and around the world. And as we see Beijing's propaganda,

00:25:25.380 it is starting to resemble that of Japan's before the second world war. Japan had this whole notion

00:25:31.800 of the greater East Asia prosperity sphere, tried to divide Asia along racial lines. Well, China's 0.99

00:25:38.560 trying to do the same thing right now. And it is malicious beyond belief. And we don't see pushback

00:25:44.320 on the part of the Biden administration. And we don't see pushback on the part of Justin Trudeau.

00:25:49.420 Yeah. Well, you know, um, you, when you refer to Japan's once imperial ambitions in the region,

00:25:56.060 you make me remember the Olympics in Berlin in 1936 on the eve of war. It was a source of prestige

00:26:04.180 for Hitler to show off not only his infrastructure, his giant stadiums, but he wanted to have, you know, 0.92

00:26:12.060 sports victories. I feel like we're in that same place again. China wants to show off not only that

00:26:18.620 it can win, but it has these amazing airports and railways and stadiums, things that the West can

00:26:24.160 only look at and say, wow, I wish ours was that nice. Um, and to show to their own people, look, the

00:26:30.800 whole world comes on bended knee to us. We can't be as bad as our critics would say. I'm worried that, you

00:26:38.540 know, the third part of that is, well, you know, three years later, Germany attacked Poland. Are you

00:26:44.620 worried that China might do something rash with regards to Taiwan perhaps, or, uh, or do something

00:26:55.760 military that moves from just propaganda and asymmetrical war to actually a kinetic war?

00:27:01.680 Well, they did that last year, uh, Ezra. In May, uh, Chinese troops moved in force below, uh, the

00:27:09.540 line of actual control into Indian controlled territory. And on the night of June 15th, in a

00:27:15.380 surprise attack, killed 20 Indian soldiers. You know, you talk about the Olympics, got to remember

00:27:21.360 that before the 2008 summer Olympics in Beijing, there was a lot of people who were saying, oh, you know,

00:27:27.060 China puts on the Olympics, it'll integrate into the world. It will become a responsible

00:27:32.020 stakeholder. And, and after the 2008 Olympics, China's, um, um, behavior rapidly deteriorated

00:27:39.540 because they believed that they had got the legitimization from the world and that no one

00:27:43.880 would oppose them. So yes, we've got to be very concerned that after the, uh, the winter Olympics

00:27:49.540 next year, um, Beijing is going to do something even more dangerous than they did after 2008.

00:27:55.160 Let me ask you one more question. It's sort of out of the blue. So if, if, if nothing comes to mind,

00:28:00.540 don't worry about it. But I remember you and I would talk when Donald Trump was president and

00:28:04.780 he didn't get everything right, but he had some good instincts on China. He's gone. And I think

00:28:10.480 the jury's still out on Joe Biden. Is there anyone else in the political sphere that you think is strong

00:28:18.400 and hopeful on China, anyone in the United States or frankly, in other countries that we can look to

00:28:24.960 maybe for leadership on how to check China's military and political ambitions?

00:28:30.520 Well, one person in the U S who has political ambitions going forward is Mike Pompeo, the former

00:28:37.840 secretary of state. Um, also, you know, Donald Trump has four more years of eligibility as president

00:28:43.840 under the U S constitution. So he might come back. Um, I, I think across the American political

00:28:50.160 spectrum, both parties, you're starting to see people are beginning to understand the fundamental

00:28:55.600 nature of China's challenge. I don't think they're all the way there yet. Um, but we're moving in that 0.99

00:29:01.040 direction and we've got to move fast because we have, as we started out by talking, um, we've got a

00:29:06.860 business class of financial class, Walmart, wall street, um, that are willing to do, actually,

00:29:13.220 they're more loyal to Beijing than they are to Washington.

00:29:15.760 Yeah, I think you're right. And I tell you, it was seeing those two faces of Elon Musk that really

00:29:20.240 broke my heart. I was sort of a fan of his. I liked the fact that he was audacious and a little bit

00:29:25.180 quirky, but now I feel sort of like I was tricked by him. I was only reading what he wanted me to read

00:29:31.080 and not his other stuff. Listen, Gordon, it's great to catch up with you. And let me just one more time,

00:29:35.380 recommend your new article in Newsweek. The headline is China's Communist Party at 100,

00:29:40.300 No More Foreign Rescues. And of course, you can follow Gordon at Gordon G. Chang on Twitter. Take care,

00:29:46.140 my friend. Thanks for your time today. Thank you so much, Ezra. All right. There you have it, Gordon Chang.

00:29:50.680 Stay with us. More ahead.

00:29:51.620 Hey, welcome back on my show on Friday. On statues being torn down, Joel writes,

00:30:08.380 Queen Victoria ended slavery, so they tear down the statue of her? Yeah, I mean, slavery, in fact,

00:30:15.620 in Canada, the slave trade was abolished in the 1790s, if I recall, even before Queen Victoria. I mean,

00:30:23.700 she spent decades literally leading a naval battle against slave ships. The British Empire redeemed 0.80

00:30:32.420 every slave in the empire. I mean, what the Emancipation Proclamation did decades later,

00:30:40.200 the British Empire did. So I don't think that the people who were tearing down statues were particularly

00:30:46.700 philosophical or educated about it. I think they just want to smash every symbol of society. They

00:30:53.360 don't care who. One writes, the police stood back and allowed this. Yeah. Oh, allowed it. In fact,

00:31:01.140 they tasered the one guy who was protesting against it. Brian writes, imagine if these people

00:31:07.360 were shaking hands or hugging. They'd be fined and arrested for sure. Well, yeah, and that's not

00:31:12.140 just speculation. Maxime Bernier went to Manitoba for a small political meeting. He was arrested and

00:31:17.720 jailed and told to leave town. There are Christian pastors who are being persecuted and prosecuted

00:31:23.660 right now by Brian Pallister. It took him a day to make a public statement. And he said, oh,

00:31:29.580 we're going to prosecute people. But he, of course, hasn't done so. He's one of the worst premiers.

00:31:33.580 But as soon as I say that, I think of the other premiers who are even worse. It's terrible.

00:31:39.120 That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:31:44.020 you at home, good night and keep fighting for free.

Rebel News Podcast - July 06, 2021

EZRA LEVANT ｜ A “Civil Liberties” Group Calls for the Burning of More Churches

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