Rebel News Podcast - March 30, 2022


EZRA LEVANT | A conservative politician named Randy Hillier was arrested. What does that say about our civil liberties?


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

164.56197

Word Count

6,520

Sentence Count

275

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Randy Hillier, a conservative politician in Ontario, was arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer. What does that say about our civil liberties? And why are so many people thrilled about it? Is this a sign of corruption in Canada?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friend. Special show today. It's all about the arrest of Randy Hillier, a member
00:00:04.060 of the Provincial Parliament of Ontario. You can like Randy or dislike him, doesn't much matter.
00:00:09.460 The fact that he was arrested for peaceful political protest, deeply troubling. Trumped
00:00:14.060 up charges. I'll take you through one of them. But even more troubling than the fact he was charged
00:00:19.440 is the fact that so many people are cool with it. In fact, so many people are thrilled by it. I'm
00:00:24.260 worried about the rest of us, not just about Randy. That's today's show. It's up in a minute.
00:00:30.320 Let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. I want to show you what they claim
00:00:35.000 was Randy assaulting a police officer. We got the video. You're going to laugh or cry. I don't know.
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00:00:57.640 to pay our bills around here because we don't take any money from Trudeau. All right, here's today's show.
00:01:07.160 Tonight, a conservative politician named Randy Hillier was arrested.
00:01:20.980 What does that say about our civil liberties? It's March 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:28.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:32.240 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:36.320 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
00:01:40.900 bloody right to do so.
00:01:42.160 There are some countries in the world that give their sitting politicians legal immunity.
00:01:54.940 As in, you can't sue or prosecute their politicians while they're still in office.
00:01:59.460 It's easy enough to understand the thinking, because they could be sued on a nuisance basis,
00:02:05.800 not just in civil courts, but trumped up criminal accusations too. But
00:02:10.480 typically, it's corrupt or partly corrupt countries that give this immunity because
00:02:17.500 you've got to be pretty worried about your police and prosecutors and courts being politicized if
00:02:25.620 you're going to tell them that you trust none of them and that none of them can lay a glove on
00:02:32.020 politicians until they're out of office. I mean, that's a pretty low opinion of your court system,
00:02:37.040 isn't it? I suppose another way of looking at it, which is equally corrupt and just as depressing,
00:02:42.960 is that you are not so certain that the judges and prosecutors are corrupt. You're certain that
00:02:49.680 the politicians are absolutely going to do nasty things, corrupt things, including financially.
00:02:55.660 So you're so certain your politicians are crooks that you don't want them charged. Maybe you're
00:03:01.780 crook who brought in this rule. Either way, it's a sign of very, very bad things in your country,
00:03:07.060 isn't it? But that said, political prosecutions do happen. Don't think for a second, for example,
00:03:14.760 of the RCMP laying charges and the attorney general having a two-year circus about Mike Duffy's
00:03:21.280 expense accounts on the eve of Harper's 2015 election. Don't think that was anything other
00:03:26.440 than a political mission. As you know, Mike Duffy was acquitted of all the charges and the
00:03:32.540 corruption in question was the laughable case. I've never heard of this in my life of Nigel Wright,
00:03:38.900 Harper's chief of staff, voluntarily paying to the government over a hundred grand to cover the
00:03:44.360 questionable expenses. Never seen a scandal that involved people paying money into the government
00:03:49.660 before. Compare that circus-like prosecution to, I don't know, say the SNC-Lavalin corruption case,
00:03:57.320 where the justice minister herself resigned in disgust over being pressured by Trudeau in his office to
00:04:03.140 interfere with a criminal trial. Former attorneys general across the country demanded that the RCMP
00:04:09.240 investigate, but they did not. So yeah, don't think our police and prosecutors and courts are squeaky clean.
00:04:16.720 Canada is sinking in the Transparency International Corruption Index. We've fallen under Justin Trudeau.
00:04:25.480 I wonder why the CBC doesn't make a bigger deal about that. I suppose that's part of corruption too,
00:04:30.620 when the watchdogs are pacified. They're turned into lapdogs by paying them. You're pretty sure
00:04:38.780 more corruption will happen if you pay off the journalists who are supposed to be watching. Randy
00:04:44.040 Hillier is one guy who I don't think is corrupt. He's always been outspoken. He's always criticized
00:04:50.800 authority and power. That's why he was sacked by Doug Ford, kicked out of the provincial Ontario
00:04:57.760 Conservative Party. Anyone who called out the lockdowns was. Randy Hillier just wouldn't bend the
00:05:04.540 knee, not to Doug Ford, not to Trudeau, not to public health officials. He was noisy and he, gasp,
00:05:12.260 wouldn't wear a mask. He was a friend of the truckers, which these days is the worst sin of all. So
00:05:19.500 yesterday he was told by police to turn himself in at the Ottawa police police station. But of course
00:05:27.440 he was. I mean, the shocking list of charges against him, including that he allegedly assaulted a police
00:05:34.820 officer. Which is odd because you'd think that would be on camera somewhere. I've never seen it.
00:05:41.660 Randy Hillier himself said he had no idea what that was even referring to. Apparently it came out in the
00:05:47.600 bail hearing yesterday that it was for this, seriously, for pushing open a gate that had been
00:05:54.540 bizarrely placed in the way of pedestrians on Parliament Hill during the trucker convoy.
00:06:00.220 For this? He was charged with assault? Yeah. I mean, this is a stitch up. Listen,
00:06:08.420 we'll hear what the evidence is when the trial comes. Sounds pretty thin to me. Sounds like they've
00:06:14.400 been waiting to take a run at Randy Hillier for a long time. He's mouthy. He criticizes everyone
00:06:20.120 on all sides, including in his own party. And he gave moral support to the truckers. That's
00:06:26.600 tantamount to terrorism, if you ask Justin Trudeau. I'm worried though. Really I am, not just by the
00:06:33.040 arrest and the obviously trumped up charges assaulting police. And we'll talk in a minute
00:06:38.700 about the bail conditions that the judge put on Randy Hillier. It's unacceptable. It's like the bail
00:06:44.680 conditions put on Tamara Lich, the trucker convoy founder. She may not criticize the government
00:06:50.920 or any lockdowns or any mask mandates. She's just not allowed to. That's Putin stuff. That's Castro
00:06:56.960 stuff. I'm upset by the arrest and by the bail conditions and the new role of the police as
00:07:02.500 political police. But much more than that, I'm worried about the rest of us.
00:07:08.740 The national reaction to this, the glee in the press corps, the jubilation amongst politicians
00:07:15.640 of almost every party, by the way, worse of the silence of the so-called conservatives and so-called
00:07:23.280 freedom groups, civil liberties groups, where are they? A politician was arrested on clearly
00:07:29.480 exaggerated grounds, released on bail with a condition that he not criticize the government
00:07:35.700 on social media. And this is taken as it's normal now? Just normal. Is it because of the emergency
00:07:43.720 act and the banana republicification of Canada? It's now accepted that this is how it is now.
00:07:50.240 The seizing of bank accounts, that's just how it is now. The police checkpoints in our capital city,
00:07:56.900 the police being arbiters of political comments. That's normal now? People being arrested for honking
00:08:03.960 like this in Calgary.
00:08:07.980 Hi, sir. Mocha with Rebel Luz. Are you guys getting a ticket for honking?
00:08:12.380 For honking.
00:08:13.200 For honking, right?
00:08:13.860 That guy.
00:08:16.120 Sleep well.
00:08:18.240 Piece of shit.
00:08:19.240 What do you make of this?
00:08:20.420 God, shit. Let's get some fucking friends and friends.
00:08:23.060 Whether someone walked in their way or we just honked to say thank you. Absolute fucking shit.
00:08:28.720 And you get a ticket for that?
00:08:30.040 Yep.
00:08:30.260 Yeah. It seems like you're not the only one. There are a couple of more cars.
00:08:33.920 Everybody, pull more people over. Absolute tyranny.
00:08:38.960 Trudeau.
00:08:41.420 Wow, that's unbelievable.
00:08:43.120 I'm gonna fucking do that.
00:08:44.040 Take care.
00:08:44.440 What do you make of this? You just honked and now you're getting pulled over.
00:09:04.060 He can't even tell me any more than, oh, there's an injunction. You can't honk your horn.
00:09:10.780 I go, so you can't honk your horn ever? Well, yeah, there's an injunction. So that was his
00:09:15.220 excuse to me. Wow.
00:09:24.940 It's an improver uniform.
00:09:32.500 All the way with it.
00:09:33.880 Thank you.
00:09:34.220 How much is the ticket?
00:09:36.100 89 bucks.
00:09:37.360 Wow.
00:09:37.620 Oh, $81.
00:09:38.760 For honking. And how much did you honk?
00:09:41.260 Oh, I don't know.
00:09:42.640 You don't remember?
00:09:43.660 That one there, maybe honked three times.
00:09:47.220 Well.
00:09:49.360 Isn't this an interesting world, eh?
00:09:51.220 It is. It is. It really is.
00:09:53.000 So here.
00:09:53.360 Yeah, that's $81 right there.
00:09:59.560 Now you can't even honk your horn in Calgary.
00:10:07.720 Oh, freedom!
00:10:08.840 Oh, freedom!
00:10:11.760 Oh, freedom.
00:10:13.080 Oh, freedom.
00:10:13.200 Oh, freedom.
00:10:13.220 Oh, freedom.
00:10:16.960 Oh, freedom.
00:10:18.600 Oh, freedom.
00:10:19.360 Oh, freedom.
00:10:20.360 Oh, freedom.
00:10:21.360 Oh, freedom.
00:10:23.360 In Calgary?
00:10:31.040 The establishment has brought itself into disrepute.
00:10:33.840 Politicians, judges, police, the media, every institution.
00:10:38.500 But where is the general public outcry and outrage?
00:10:43.600 I don't know.
00:10:44.460 Is this now who we are as a country?
00:10:47.120 I hope not.
00:10:48.240 And if we're fine with this,
00:10:49.960 and if no one pushes back politically or legally or journalistically,
00:10:54.360 what next?
00:10:57.020 You think Trudeau and his crew will stop?
00:10:59.440 Why?
00:10:59.920 They're tired of winning?
00:11:02.200 They get hungrier the more they eat,
00:11:05.100 as if increase of appetite had grown by what it fed on.
00:11:08.920 Tyrants don't stop as they get more tyrannical.
00:11:14.660 It sort of speeds up.
00:11:16.160 They're accustomed to things.
00:11:18.100 They're unaccustomed to be challenged anymore.
00:11:22.680 They hate any holdouts.
00:11:24.920 They may have 99% of journalists in their pocket,
00:11:27.760 99% of lawyers and judges,
00:11:29.900 99% of political activists,
00:11:32.160 but they get infuriated by the 1% holdouts.
00:11:36.540 They want more, ever more.
00:11:40.120 I'm worried by that.
00:11:41.180 We'll see what they have on Randy Hillier when the trial comes.
00:11:44.040 I'm skeptical.
00:11:45.460 But even if he's acquitted,
00:11:47.560 the establishment now knows something they didn't know before.
00:11:53.600 They know they can get away with arresting conservative politicians.
00:11:56.520 They're endlessly seeking boundaries,
00:12:00.140 seeking some limit.
00:12:02.640 And two years into this,
00:12:04.060 they still haven't found a limit, have they?
00:12:07.060 Stay with us for more as we talk to Randy Hillier's lawyer names.
00:12:22.180 Well, Randy Hillier is a free man until his trial,
00:12:25.060 but he's not quite free.
00:12:26.940 He's not fully free.
00:12:27.860 In fact, there are some political conditions on his release.
00:12:31.220 Joining us now to talk about the whole thing
00:12:32.860 is Randy Hillier's lawyer, David Anber,
00:12:36.060 who in the past has worked with Rebel News and the Democracy Fund.
00:12:39.180 He joins us now via Skype.
00:12:40.280 David, what a pleasure to see you again.
00:12:42.040 Thanks for making the time.
00:12:43.040 You're so busy between Randy Hillier
00:12:44.940 and your other civil liberties clients.
00:12:47.520 Can you give our viewers an update?
00:12:50.360 What was it like in court,
00:12:52.940 in front of the Justice of the Peace,
00:12:54.100 I understand it was,
00:12:55.660 when the Crown wanted onerous conditions on Randy Hillier?
00:13:00.600 How did that go?
00:13:01.360 Did you negotiate with the prosecutor?
00:13:03.960 Was it a debate in front of a judge?
00:13:05.860 How did you get him out?
00:13:07.660 So it went, Ezra, thanks for having me again.
00:13:09.940 It went through a good part of the day.
00:13:12.520 Early in the morning, into the afternoon,
00:13:14.840 there were some discussions back and forth
00:13:16.760 between the Crown and I
00:13:17.920 on conditions for Randy Hillier's release.
00:13:22.540 I went over the majority of them with Randy
00:13:26.020 and he was fine with them.
00:13:27.360 And now what normally happens
00:13:28.620 is it's either sort of a take it or leave it type situation.
00:13:31.480 Either the person has to agree to all the conditions
00:13:34.020 as finely negotiated
00:13:35.460 or otherwise have a bail hearing
00:13:37.720 where everything is at issue.
00:13:39.580 In this particular case,
00:13:40.960 there was one half of one of the conditions
00:13:43.900 that we could not agree to.
00:13:46.280 And so I got the Crown to agree
00:13:48.460 that we could put that in front of the court
00:13:51.140 and have a hearing on that narrow issue only.
00:13:54.520 And so the issue was whether or not
00:13:56.680 Randy Hillier would be prevented from
00:13:59.340 on social media
00:14:01.200 or through his support of organizations
00:14:03.380 be able to comment on
00:14:05.580 or support anti-mask mandates
00:14:08.420 and anti-vaccine mandate organizations or causes.
00:14:12.260 My argument was that
00:14:14.600 none of those subjects had anything to do
00:14:17.700 with the allegations that were before the court
00:14:20.020 and therefore should not have formed
00:14:21.600 part of his bail hearing.
00:14:23.840 Unfortunately, the justice of the peace
00:14:25.360 disagreed and sided with the Crown on that.
00:14:27.480 But because Randy did not agree to that condition,
00:14:30.960 it remains an option available to us
00:14:33.240 to appeal through the bail review process
00:14:35.420 to go to a higher court
00:14:36.960 and challenge that decision
00:14:38.780 and essentially appeal the finding.
00:14:41.020 Right.
00:14:41.120 So the other typical conditions,
00:14:43.320 my guess is you were able to negotiate things
00:14:45.240 like, for example,
00:14:46.960 sometimes it's called a surety
00:14:48.680 or a certain amount of dough
00:14:51.140 or don't leave the country.
00:14:53.440 Are those conditions publicly known?
00:14:56.580 Are you able to discuss those?
00:14:58.060 Yeah.
00:14:58.360 Yeah.
00:14:58.640 I mean, there's some standard,
00:14:59.800 very simple conditions
00:15:00.740 reside at a specific address
00:15:02.300 and notify the police
00:15:03.380 if there's going to be a change of address.
00:15:05.440 Again, there was never any concern
00:15:06.680 about Randy not coming to court.
00:15:08.540 The concerns were on the so-called
00:15:10.600 second and tertiary grounds
00:15:12.020 dealing with the possibility
00:15:13.700 of further re-offense
00:15:15.180 and also the reputation
00:15:17.080 of the justice system
00:15:18.340 if somebody is released.
00:15:21.000 And so, you know,
00:15:23.000 there were conditions
00:15:24.100 that he can't have contact
00:15:25.220 with people who were organizers
00:15:27.140 of the Freedom Convoy, for example.
00:15:29.600 And that's a fairly ordinary type of condition
00:15:32.700 that when you have a number of people
00:15:34.540 who are charged in relation
00:15:35.880 to the same organization
00:15:38.660 or the same incident,
00:15:41.220 there are normally conditions
00:15:42.640 that the different people
00:15:43.600 can't communicate with one another.
00:15:45.580 Now, were those organizers,
00:15:47.660 were they named a particular list of people?
00:15:51.400 They were.
00:15:52.180 And I mean, some of the names
00:15:53.160 were names that have become household names
00:15:55.380 that we recognize,
00:15:56.300 Tamara Leach, Chris Barber, Pat King.
00:15:59.040 But there are also other names,
00:16:00.600 some of which Randy or I recognize,
00:16:03.480 other ones that weren't quite clear
00:16:05.860 to us who they were,
00:16:06.780 but it could just simply be
00:16:08.200 other individuals
00:16:09.360 who are either facing charges
00:16:11.680 due to their involvement
00:16:13.300 in the Freedom Convoy
00:16:14.380 or maybe they're persons of interest
00:16:16.580 that are currently being investigated
00:16:18.000 by the police.
00:16:19.960 Now, I want to get back
00:16:20.920 to the political speech ban,
00:16:22.760 which concerns me greatly
00:16:23.960 because, I mean, I think, frankly,
00:16:27.280 some of the charges
00:16:28.400 that Randy's facing are laughable.
00:16:31.080 I mean, assault on an officer
00:16:33.120 the fact that Randy
00:16:34.800 didn't even know what that was,
00:16:36.360 didn't even know
00:16:36.800 what they were talking about.
00:16:37.740 And by the way,
00:16:38.800 I just want to tell our viewers
00:16:39.680 I understand why you're here
00:16:41.360 instead of Randy.
00:16:42.560 Randy's a chatty fella,
00:16:44.060 loves to talk.
00:16:44.820 We love talking with him.
00:16:45.900 But, of course,
00:16:47.640 given that there's a restraining order
00:16:50.520 on what he can say,
00:16:51.280 we don't want to get him in trouble
00:16:52.300 and you can speak for him.
00:16:55.660 Right.
00:16:57.260 I think these are trumped up.
00:16:58.740 I think this is political in nature.
00:17:00.200 I think Randy,
00:17:01.320 I'm actually surprised
00:17:02.540 he wasn't jailed
00:17:03.540 the same way Tamera Litch
00:17:04.900 and some of the other characters
00:17:05.820 you've mentioned were jailed.
00:17:08.380 So I think congratulations go to you
00:17:11.020 in large part
00:17:12.540 for negotiating with the prosecutor.
00:17:15.440 But I want to get to the wording.
00:17:18.200 So Randy Hillier
00:17:19.420 is not allowed to criticize
00:17:21.420 mask mandates
00:17:22.900 or vaccine mandates
00:17:24.600 or to talk about those issues
00:17:28.160 on social media.
00:17:30.120 Is that the wording?
00:17:31.620 Or, like, for example,
00:17:33.360 can he talk,
00:17:33.920 he's a member
00:17:34.740 of the legislature of Ontario.
00:17:36.540 Can he talk about them there?
00:17:38.020 Can he,
00:17:38.660 if a reporter for the Toronto Star
00:17:40.260 asks him a question
00:17:41.240 about vaccine mandates,
00:17:43.060 is Randy Hillier
00:17:43.740 allowed to talk to him?
00:17:45.480 Well,
00:17:45.940 that was one of the arguments
00:17:47.780 made by the Crown,
00:17:49.300 which I thought was somewhat
00:17:50.440 of an unpersuasive argument.
00:17:53.060 But the Justice of Peace
00:17:54.460 seemed to cue in on that,
00:17:56.380 saying that he's not,
00:17:57.180 he's not prevented
00:17:58.080 from speaking about these matters.
00:18:00.020 He's prevented from speaking
00:18:01.400 of those matters on social media.
00:18:03.940 But, like,
00:18:04.960 let me help you understand something,
00:18:06.300 because a lot of people actually,
00:18:07.920 I did get some criticism for this,
00:18:09.700 saying that we had actually agreed
00:18:11.340 to the social media ban
00:18:13.960 on referring to the Freedom Convoy
00:18:17.440 and also being able to support
00:18:20.000 the so-called Freedom Convoy
00:18:21.660 or any organization
00:18:22.620 that bears that name.
00:18:24.160 And that is not
00:18:25.260 an unusual bail condition,
00:18:26.720 because whenever the allegation
00:18:28.860 is that somebody was involved
00:18:31.640 with some group or organization
00:18:34.060 that is the basis
00:18:35.260 for the alleged crimes,
00:18:36.640 and I'm not saying
00:18:37.380 he's guilty of those crimes.
00:18:38.900 In fact,
00:18:39.260 I'm saying he's not guilty
00:18:40.900 of those crimes.
00:18:41.940 But where there are charges
00:18:43.360 before the court
00:18:44.140 and the theory of the prosecution
00:18:45.700 is that there was
00:18:46.900 a group of people
00:18:48.200 or an organization
00:18:49.480 or a place
00:18:50.700 or an incident,
00:18:51.240 it's quite common
00:18:52.420 to separate the accused person
00:18:54.240 from that organization,
00:18:55.960 place,
00:18:56.320 group of people,
00:18:56.980 et cetera.
00:18:57.500 So that wasn't unusual.
00:18:58.800 But where it got weird,
00:19:00.500 in my view,
00:19:01.440 was including also
00:19:03.520 a prohibition
00:19:05.000 against speaking
00:19:05.720 about vaccine mandates
00:19:07.800 or mask mandates
00:19:09.680 on social media
00:19:10.860 or supporting a group
00:19:13.580 or organization
00:19:14.340 that is against vaccine mandates
00:19:17.080 or mask mandates.
00:19:18.560 And that, in my view,
00:19:19.640 had no connection
00:19:20.600 to the offenses whatsoever
00:19:22.780 and should not have been
00:19:23.800 part of his bail.
00:19:25.220 I mean, again,
00:19:25.880 it doesn't come as a surprise
00:19:27.900 that I made this argument
00:19:29.380 and I don't believe
00:19:30.200 that the court got it right.
00:19:31.740 Again, I won't say
00:19:32.960 too much on that.
00:19:33.780 I mean, the court
00:19:34.160 can't defend itself
00:19:35.120 or respond to these criticisms,
00:19:37.100 but I'll just say
00:19:38.000 that we are considering
00:19:38.980 an appeal of that decision.
00:19:41.180 Yeah, well, I mean,
00:19:41.680 that's the thing.
00:19:42.300 It's one thing to say,
00:19:43.220 OK, he's charged
00:19:44.080 and he's charged,
00:19:45.040 so stay away from them.
00:19:46.380 That sounds plausible to me.
00:19:47.920 But you cannot criticize masks.
00:19:51.320 I mean, as if that in itself
00:19:53.880 is enough to send someone to jail,
00:19:56.280 that's deeply troubling
00:19:57.700 that the prosecutor
00:19:58.580 would demand it
00:19:59.380 and that a judge would uphold it.
00:20:01.240 And I certainly hope
00:20:02.340 you do appeal that,
00:20:03.800 at least on that.
00:20:04.420 I mean, it seems to me
00:20:06.600 that there's a bit of a madness
00:20:08.440 that's taken over the courts,
00:20:09.800 especially in the city of Ottawa.
00:20:11.400 Like this mania,
00:20:13.140 this phobia,
00:20:14.060 this paranoia.
00:20:15.300 I think they whipped themselves
00:20:17.120 up into a hysterical frenzy.
00:20:19.320 I was there for a few days,
00:20:21.000 not for the whole thing,
00:20:22.460 but it's a lie to say
00:20:23.500 the whole city was locked down.
00:20:25.880 After the first few days,
00:20:27.480 there was a clear lane
00:20:29.180 made on every key road.
00:20:31.380 In fact, after a while,
00:20:32.200 the police were the ones
00:20:33.280 who were blocking
00:20:34.000 most of the roads,
00:20:35.360 saying we're, you know,
00:20:36.740 who were having like drawbridges,
00:20:38.440 practically, to get downtown.
00:20:40.300 It was police who set up
00:20:41.620 100 checkpoints
00:20:42.520 on Parliament Hill.
00:20:44.340 The panic, the mania
00:20:45.960 did not come from the truckers
00:20:48.120 who were playful and joyful
00:20:49.460 and had a festival mode.
00:20:51.080 I think that town
00:20:52.160 went slightly mad.
00:20:54.000 And I think that town
00:20:55.080 has a lot of bureaucrats
00:20:56.220 and liberal politicians.
00:20:58.000 They sort of
00:20:59.000 egged each other on.
00:21:01.020 And I think Randy Hillier
00:21:01.940 and certainly the other truckers
00:21:03.360 are a victim of it.
00:21:04.020 What do you think?
00:21:05.360 Well, I think,
00:21:06.040 I mean, you said it,
00:21:06.920 you went to great lengths
00:21:08.220 to sort of describe
00:21:09.300 the atmosphere
00:21:11.300 in the protest
00:21:12.400 as it actually was.
00:21:14.240 And I've said this before
00:21:15.100 and I'll say it again.
00:21:16.120 There are these two
00:21:17.080 competing realities
00:21:18.720 as to what actually happened.
00:21:20.640 There's the version,
00:21:21.420 as you've indicated,
00:21:22.220 where virtually all roads
00:21:23.700 where truckers
00:21:25.200 had parked their trucks
00:21:26.180 had a lane of traffic
00:21:27.560 to allow emergency vehicles
00:21:29.600 and even ordinary vehicles
00:21:31.380 to pass through.
00:21:32.660 We know there was
00:21:33.320 a lot of honking
00:21:34.120 that was going on
00:21:35.400 and that was disturbing
00:21:36.280 some of the residents.
00:21:38.060 Well, there was an injunction
00:21:39.020 that was obtained
00:21:39.840 and for the most part
00:21:41.080 there was compliance
00:21:41.920 with that injunction.
00:21:43.760 So the Freedom Convoy
00:21:45.120 can't be faulted
00:21:46.140 for, in a general sense,
00:21:48.820 being responsible for that.
00:21:51.060 There was no violence.
00:21:53.300 There was no harassment
00:21:54.880 as some allegations had made.
00:21:57.020 And so it was ostensibly
00:21:58.820 a peaceful protest
00:21:59.860 and that's one reality.
00:22:02.400 And then the other reality
00:22:03.660 that some are saying
00:22:05.340 is that it was a lockdown,
00:22:06.560 an occupation,
00:22:07.280 a blockade,
00:22:08.800 that it was nonstop honking
00:22:10.520 into the night,
00:22:11.680 that it was roads
00:22:12.860 were shut down,
00:22:13.580 that the city was paralyzed,
00:22:15.040 businesses had to close.
00:22:16.780 And this is the narrative
00:22:18.860 that the Crown Attorney's Office
00:22:20.240 is relying on
00:22:21.480 at the bail stage
00:22:23.120 and they ultimately
00:22:24.680 will be continuing that
00:22:26.000 when these matters
00:22:26.660 go to trial.
00:22:27.920 The reality is, though,
00:22:29.500 that when the matters
00:22:30.220 go to trial,
00:22:31.260 they'll have to come
00:22:31.960 with the receipts.
00:22:33.060 They'll have to actually
00:22:33.860 put evidence
00:22:34.560 of these things up.
00:22:35.760 And that's where I think
00:22:36.760 their case is going
00:22:37.520 to be problematic
00:22:38.260 because at the bail stage,
00:22:40.300 the Crown can make
00:22:41.080 these allegations
00:22:41.920 based on an incomplete record
00:22:45.080 and not based on evidence
00:22:46.680 that's tested
00:22:47.380 in a traditional sense
00:22:49.100 through cross-examination,
00:22:51.320 through alternative evidence,
00:22:53.140 through a close look
00:22:54.860 at the evidence.
00:22:55.700 And so once the matters
00:22:56.740 go to trial,
00:22:58.200 this alternate narrative
00:22:59.780 that the Crown prosecutor
00:23:01.360 is using to base
00:23:02.360 its decisions
00:23:03.140 to aggressively pursue
00:23:04.760 detention orders,
00:23:06.440 to aggressively prosecute
00:23:08.120 people who were arrested
00:23:09.220 who chose to remain
00:23:10.280 in the city of Ottawa
00:23:12.180 contrary to what the police
00:23:14.100 told them to do.
00:23:15.880 That narrative is why this is,
00:23:18.600 you've described it as madness,
00:23:19.920 but it's that narrative
00:23:20.680 that is motivating them
00:23:21.820 to prosecute this
00:23:22.900 in the manner
00:23:23.660 that they're doing.
00:23:25.120 And when the time comes
00:23:26.180 that they have to put forward
00:23:27.540 evidence as to this narrative,
00:23:29.980 I think that's where
00:23:30.760 they're going to run
00:23:31.220 into some difficulty.
00:23:32.620 Well, I hope you're right,
00:23:33.660 but I don't know
00:23:34.920 if Randy Hillier
00:23:35.500 can get a fair trial in Ottawa.
00:23:37.240 I mean, we saw
00:23:37.900 what happened to Tamara Litch.
00:23:39.000 I think it was 18 days in jail.
00:23:41.500 You know, I'm sure
00:23:42.200 it was a coincidence
00:23:43.080 that the first judge
00:23:44.040 was a Liberal Party candidate
00:23:45.780 in a previous election.
00:23:48.320 Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
00:23:50.180 It's like one of those crimes
00:23:52.680 where it's so notorious
00:23:55.480 before trial
00:23:56.960 that you can't get
00:23:57.760 a fair hearing
00:23:58.400 and they take it
00:23:59.000 out of the jurisdiction.
00:23:59.960 They take it to another city
00:24:01.020 sometimes even
00:24:02.020 in another province
00:24:02.820 to get a man
00:24:03.660 a fair trial.
00:24:04.400 And I don't think
00:24:05.340 Randy Hillier
00:24:05.940 can get a fair trial
00:24:07.440 in the city of Ottawa.
00:24:08.180 I don't think any trucker can.
00:24:09.900 I don't think
00:24:10.260 because I think
00:24:10.940 there is that madness
00:24:11.860 and I think the judges
00:24:13.340 are deeply part of it.
00:24:14.240 I'm impressed
00:24:14.720 that you got Randy
00:24:15.440 out of jail at all.
00:24:17.040 When is the next hearing?
00:24:18.260 I mean, you say
00:24:18.760 you're contemplating
00:24:19.500 a possible appeal
00:24:20.840 or a review of the bail.
00:24:23.340 Is there a scheduled date
00:24:24.700 for an actual
00:24:25.260 substantive hearing
00:24:26.360 on things
00:24:27.200 or a first appearance
00:24:28.080 or what's next?
00:24:29.820 There's a first appearance
00:24:30.760 after release
00:24:31.800 which is on May the 4th
00:24:33.220 and so between now
00:24:34.180 and then
00:24:34.600 is a chance for me
00:24:35.740 to get more disclosure
00:24:37.000 and there's going to be
00:24:37.640 a lot of disclosure
00:24:38.500 in Randy Hillier's case
00:24:39.740 compared to the typical
00:24:41.320 trucker case
00:24:42.060 because the central
00:24:43.860 allegation against Randy
00:24:45.480 was this claim
00:24:46.360 that he had
00:24:47.340 somehow encouraged
00:24:48.520 people to jam up
00:24:49.500 the 911 lines
00:24:50.480 despite he never
00:24:51.380 made reference
00:24:52.380 to 911
00:24:52.920 and his intention
00:24:55.400 as he may testify to
00:24:56.920 was not to have
00:24:59.320 911 jammed up
00:25:00.680 but there are going
00:25:01.200 to be phone calls
00:25:02.080 and recordings
00:25:02.720 of those phone calls
00:25:03.780 that need to be disclosed.
00:25:05.360 There's video evidence
00:25:06.140 that needs to be disclosed.
00:25:07.900 Eventually
00:25:08.260 when all this
00:25:08.880 makes its way
00:25:09.600 to my office
00:25:10.520 I'll have a chance
00:25:11.560 to review that
00:25:12.540 and either before
00:25:13.680 the 4th of May
00:25:14.460 or shortly thereafter
00:25:15.540 I'll be able to discuss
00:25:16.800 with the Crown Prosecutor
00:25:18.860 whoever that may be
00:25:19.880 and coming back
00:25:20.640 to your earlier point Ezra
00:25:21.920 I mean one thing
00:25:23.140 we know about Randy Hillier
00:25:24.320 is a lot of people
00:25:26.000 like Randy Hillier
00:25:27.300 and a lot of people
00:25:28.300 don't like Randy Hillier
00:25:29.780 so that's
00:25:30.500 you take those
00:25:31.540 two different groups
00:25:32.200 and you have a significant
00:25:33.240 majority of the population
00:25:35.160 I would suggest
00:25:36.040 that has very strong opinions
00:25:37.720 on Randy Hillier
00:25:39.040 and there may be
00:25:40.260 there may be a question
00:25:41.260 as to whether or not
00:25:42.240 it should be an outside
00:25:43.060 prosecutor
00:25:43.720 or an outside judge
00:25:44.760 and these are questions
00:25:45.960 which I have not studied
00:25:47.700 closely enough
00:25:48.640 to be able to make
00:25:49.460 any broad claims
00:25:51.760 on the law
00:25:52.320 or advise Randy yet
00:25:54.300 but these are things
00:25:55.160 we're going to be
00:25:55.580 looking at for sure
00:25:56.540 you know what
00:25:57.920 I accept that
00:25:59.060 politicians can commit
00:26:00.460 offenses
00:26:00.880 and they should be prosecuted
00:26:01.940 we don't believe
00:26:02.560 in immunity
00:26:03.460 for politicians
00:26:04.240 I just can't help
00:26:06.220 note
00:26:06.700 the despair
00:26:07.640 the difference
00:26:08.580 between
00:26:09.180 oh let's say
00:26:10.400 Trudeau
00:26:10.840 and his interference
00:26:11.600 in the
00:26:12.560 SNC-Lavalin
00:26:14.300 corruption case
00:26:15.120 which was sustained
00:26:16.560 and you had
00:26:17.140 former attorneys general
00:26:18.700 across the country
00:26:20.020 signing letters
00:26:21.160 to the RCMP
00:26:22.040 saying
00:26:22.480 where are the charges
00:26:24.040 such blatant
00:26:25.800 you know
00:26:27.980 at least it begged
00:26:29.080 an investigation
00:26:29.740 versus
00:26:30.440 dropping the hammer
00:26:32.260 on a backbench
00:26:34.580 MPP
00:26:35.300 who's just a noisy
00:26:36.220 advocate for freedom
00:26:37.200 and I have to say
00:26:38.540 while I'm not
00:26:40.140 prejudging the evidence
00:26:41.120 I haven't seen it
00:26:42.020 it sure feels like
00:26:43.260 a political prisoner
00:26:44.020 I mean especially
00:26:44.740 in the wake
00:26:45.380 of Trudeau's
00:26:46.520 seizing bank accounts
00:26:47.760 of his
00:26:48.140 pointless invocation
00:26:49.940 of the emergencies
00:26:50.800 act
00:26:51.300 of the excessive
00:26:52.400 policing
00:26:52.840 one of our reporters
00:26:53.680 was shot in the leg
00:26:54.740 by an Ottawa police
00:26:56.120 or RCMP
00:26:56.900 I just feel like
00:26:58.040 Canada's really
00:26:58.660 slipping away
00:26:59.680 on the civil liberties
00:27:00.860 file
00:27:01.180 your job obviously
00:27:02.780 is to focus
00:27:03.440 like a laser
00:27:04.140 on Randy's case
00:27:05.140 and it sounds like
00:27:05.960 you're doing
00:27:06.280 a good job
00:27:06.820 of that
00:27:07.160 do you have any
00:27:07.960 wider political
00:27:08.900 comments
00:27:09.380 about the fact
00:27:10.580 that Canada
00:27:11.200 is sort of
00:27:12.700 you know
00:27:13.420 if we're not
00:27:14.320 shutting down
00:27:14.960 TV stations
00:27:15.880 because we call
00:27:17.420 them propaganda
00:27:18.020 or if we're not
00:27:19.440 deploying a form
00:27:20.620 of martial law
00:27:21.440 or seizing bank
00:27:22.480 accounts
00:27:22.860 we're arresting
00:27:23.920 oppositions
00:27:24.520 or conservative
00:27:25.120 politicians
00:27:25.640 it just really
00:27:26.620 feels like
00:27:27.900 we're not
00:27:28.300 fully free
00:27:29.420 I guess my
00:27:31.420 answer to that
00:27:32.080 Ezra is
00:27:32.900 is the same
00:27:34.460 in large regards
00:27:35.980 as I've said
00:27:36.480 to other questions
00:27:37.300 this is in many
00:27:38.780 ways a normal
00:27:39.800 day at the office
00:27:40.540 for me
00:27:41.000 is that standing
00:27:42.200 up for individual
00:27:43.100 rights and freedoms
00:27:44.100 is something I do
00:27:45.260 in every single
00:27:46.060 case
00:27:46.500 you see these
00:27:47.560 in impaired
00:27:47.980 driving cases
00:27:48.840 we see this
00:27:49.680 in cases
00:27:50.100 where the police
00:27:50.640 interrogate somebody
00:27:51.640 and engage in
00:27:52.780 methods that
00:27:53.460 trample on their
00:27:54.420 rights
00:27:54.780 and so yes
00:27:55.900 there is certainly
00:27:56.580 a political element
00:27:57.580 to the
00:27:58.500 to the incidences
00:27:59.680 that led
00:28:00.300 to the arrests
00:28:01.180 on February 18th
00:28:02.320 and 19th
00:28:03.060 there's no doubt
00:28:03.960 about that
00:28:04.600 but the question
00:28:05.680 is we have a
00:28:06.480 charter of rights
00:28:07.120 and freedoms
00:28:07.680 that guarantees
00:28:08.520 certain rights
00:28:09.240 freedom of assembly
00:28:10.140 freedom of peaceful
00:28:11.420 assembly
00:28:11.860 freedom of speech
00:28:12.900 and this case
00:28:14.840 is just another
00:28:15.580 iteration
00:28:16.160 of a case
00:28:17.320 where the government
00:28:18.060 is overreaching
00:28:20.160 and seeking
00:28:21.400 to prosecute
00:28:22.300 somebody in
00:28:22.920 violation of
00:28:23.640 those constitutional
00:28:24.400 rights
00:28:24.760 and so what
00:28:25.560 I'm doing
00:28:25.900 in this case
00:28:26.520 is in many
00:28:27.260 ways the same
00:28:28.120 as what I
00:28:28.540 would do
00:28:28.800 in a vast
00:28:29.420 number of
00:28:29.760 other cases
00:28:30.340 that I argue
00:28:31.300 it's standing
00:28:31.800 up for individual
00:28:32.520 rights and liberties
00:28:33.440 well there you
00:28:34.780 have it
00:28:35.100 we like to see
00:28:35.800 it thanks for
00:28:36.400 fighting for freedom
00:28:37.240 and fighting for
00:28:37.840 Randy
00:28:38.080 David Amber
00:28:39.040 keep up the
00:28:39.960 great work
00:28:40.420 thank you Ezra
00:28:41.840 all right
00:28:42.540 stay with us
00:28:43.640 before I have
00:28:44.360 hey welcome back
00:28:57.280 your viewer
00:28:58.220 MailBearFree200
00:28:59.260 says Tamara's
00:29:00.700 bail conditions
00:29:01.720 are what all of
00:29:03.400 us Canadians
00:29:03.900 will be under
00:29:04.580 once the
00:29:05.460 internet censorship
00:29:06.500 bill gets passed
00:29:07.840 you know what
00:29:10.260 that's that
00:29:11.160 sounds like a
00:29:11.780 pretty dark
00:29:12.420 prophecy but
00:29:13.220 I think that's
00:29:14.200 the direction
00:29:14.560 it's going
00:29:14.940 and like I
00:29:15.360 say there
00:29:16.340 hasn't been
00:29:16.860 any blockage
00:29:17.720 yet I mean
00:29:18.180 the United
00:29:18.540 States as I
00:29:19.360 point out to
00:29:19.860 anyone who
00:29:20.220 listen very
00:29:21.880 quickly the
00:29:22.420 Supreme Court
00:29:22.940 weighed in
00:29:23.500 on some
00:29:24.020 lockdowns and
00:29:25.020 I read the
00:29:25.780 cases they're
00:29:26.220 very succinct
00:29:26.920 very short
00:29:27.540 unlike our
00:29:28.060 Canadian
00:29:28.400 rulings
00:29:28.900 beautifully
00:29:30.900 written there
00:29:32.120 was one case
00:29:32.560 out of
00:29:32.760 California it
00:29:33.540 was a
00:29:33.780 lockdown order
00:29:34.420 very easy to
00:29:35.720 find Gavin
00:29:36.180 Newsom is
00:29:37.440 named in
00:29:37.920 it
00:29:38.060 he brought
00:29:40.320 in some
00:29:40.620 lockdowns
00:29:41.280 that applied
00:29:42.620 to singing
00:29:43.520 in churches
00:29:44.220 but not
00:29:45.320 singing in
00:29:45.900 Hollywood talent
00:29:46.800 shows like
00:29:47.440 I don't know
00:29:48.140 American Isle
00:29:48.660 if that's still
00:29:49.180 on and the
00:29:51.160 judges ruled
00:29:51.940 that you can't
00:29:53.480 ban singing
00:29:54.080 in churches
00:29:54.640 but allow it
00:29:55.640 in a Hollywood
00:29:57.080 production so
00:29:58.200 they were striking
00:29:58.880 down these
00:29:59.420 lockdowns and
00:30:00.080 they had the
00:30:01.000 same thing in
00:30:01.660 Massachusetts
00:30:02.260 and the Supreme
00:30:03.460 Court got
00:30:03.900 involved early
00:30:04.680 and often
00:30:05.500 and it
00:30:06.120 wasn't shy
00:30:06.660 of striking
00:30:07.020 things down
00:30:07.680 in Canada
00:30:10.300 we had the
00:30:10.800 same exemptions
00:30:11.800 I remember
00:30:12.400 when the
00:30:13.320 bachelor rented
00:30:14.140 out the
00:30:14.520 Jasper Park
00:30:15.180 Lodge in
00:30:15.840 Alberta
00:30:16.220 and they
00:30:17.240 were having
00:30:17.520 hundreds of
00:30:18.600 people
00:30:19.200 breaking the
00:30:21.980 six foot
00:30:22.500 separation rule
00:30:23.380 let me put it
00:30:23.920 that way
00:30:24.380 and that was
00:30:25.480 perfectly fine
00:30:26.180 while Pastor
00:30:27.000 Arthur Pavlovsky
00:30:28.000 was in jail
00:30:28.760 for opening
00:30:29.860 his church
00:30:30.440 see if we
00:30:32.200 if we had
00:30:32.900 an American
00:30:33.380 the American
00:30:33.800 Supreme Court
00:30:34.440 that would
00:30:35.160 have been
00:30:35.360 struck down
00:30:35.960 not a single
00:30:37.400 important Canadian
00:30:38.540 lockdown provision
00:30:39.480 has been struck
00:30:40.080 down by the
00:30:40.460 courts
00:30:40.620 not one
00:30:41.260 how free
00:30:42.140 are we
00:30:42.840 Les Bialniak
00:30:46.960 said we elect
00:30:48.660 people to uphold
00:30:49.240 the Constitution
00:30:49.680 first
00:30:50.360 then uphold
00:30:51.360 the legal laws
00:30:52.080 of the land
00:30:52.600 that were voted
00:30:53.260 for by our
00:30:54.540 representatives
00:30:55.160 when will a
00:30:56.240 politician have
00:30:56.880 the manhood
00:30:57.560 to prosecute
00:30:58.660 politicians
00:30:59.180 who have
00:31:00.480 broken the
00:31:00.940 law
00:31:01.140 sadly the
00:31:01.720 courts are
00:31:02.280 appointed
00:31:02.760 not voted
00:31:03.700 on by the
00:31:04.180 people
00:31:04.420 I'm not sure
00:31:06.560 if I support
00:31:07.260 voting for
00:31:08.600 judges
00:31:09.020 I don't think
00:31:10.080 I do
00:31:10.480 I'll have to
00:31:11.440 think about
00:31:11.780 that some
00:31:12.240 more
00:31:12.520 and we
00:31:15.060 don't want
00:31:15.340 to criminalize
00:31:16.460 differences of
00:31:17.420 political opinion
00:31:18.040 but we want
00:31:20.040 to strike down
00:31:20.920 laws or
00:31:21.640 policies or
00:31:22.320 government
00:31:22.560 programs that
00:31:23.160 are unconstitutional
00:31:23.920 that has not
00:31:24.900 happened as I
00:31:25.460 just outlined
00:31:26.120 I think it is
00:31:28.140 outrageous that
00:31:28.880 Justin Trudeau
00:31:29.400 has broken the
00:31:29.920 conflict of
00:31:30.380 interest act
00:31:30.820 more than
00:31:31.120 any other
00:31:31.520 prime minister
00:31:33.000 in history
00:31:33.360 in fact more
00:31:33.820 than all others
00:31:34.320 combined
00:31:34.820 and what does
00:31:35.780 he get a
00:31:36.060 $500 fine
00:31:36.960 for that
00:31:37.480 I think that
00:31:38.740 more and more
00:31:39.280 the courts
00:31:39.740 and prosecutors
00:31:40.240 and police
00:31:40.640 are being
00:31:41.160 politicized
00:31:41.980 I don't think
00:31:43.000 electing judges
00:31:43.780 is the answer
00:31:44.420 though
00:31:44.680 someone with
00:31:46.520 the nickname
00:31:46.960 mocking shout
00:31:47.720 says about
00:31:48.840 my interview
00:31:49.600 with Keith
00:31:50.240 Wilson
00:31:50.560 and seizing
00:31:52.400 bank accounts
00:31:52.960 good lord
00:31:54.100 anyone who has
00:31:55.000 any sort of
00:31:55.780 respect for the
00:31:56.300 concept of privacy
00:31:57.160 should be enraged
00:31:58.740 at this
00:31:59.320 well privacy
00:32:00.780 is part of it
00:32:01.580 but also
00:32:02.260 property rights
00:32:03.260 and due process
00:32:04.400 and my god
00:32:05.720 the police
00:32:06.380 literally just
00:32:07.220 read a news
00:32:08.740 story and said
00:32:09.500 everyone in this
00:32:10.160 news story
00:32:10.640 sees their bank
00:32:11.440 accounts
00:32:11.840 everything's wrong
00:32:13.300 with that
00:32:13.800 it's troubling
00:32:17.140 times
00:32:17.500 and I
00:32:17.860 in some ways
00:32:19.900 it feels like
00:32:20.540 things are
00:32:20.940 loosening up
00:32:21.720 mask mandates
00:32:22.540 are dropped
00:32:22.920 in most parts
00:32:23.700 of the country
00:32:24.300 vaccine passports
00:32:26.460 are dropped
00:32:26.840 in most parts
00:32:27.320 of the country
00:32:27.580 but remember
00:32:28.320 there's still
00:32:29.140 a vaccine
00:32:29.580 requirement
00:32:30.000 to leave
00:32:30.360 the country
00:32:30.740 to get on
00:32:31.140 a plane
00:32:31.400 to take
00:32:31.720 a train
00:32:31.980 to take
00:32:32.260 a ferry
00:32:32.540 boat
00:32:32.740 people are
00:32:33.680 still being
00:32:33.980 fired
00:32:34.380 for not
00:32:34.760 being
00:32:34.920 vaxxed
00:32:35.380 so it's
00:32:36.280 still terrible
00:32:36.800 but don't
00:32:39.540 think for a
00:32:39.980 second they
00:32:40.320 won't bring
00:32:40.660 it all back
00:32:41.140 in if they
00:32:41.660 come up
00:32:42.600 with the
00:32:43.360 omega wave
00:32:45.760 or whatever
00:32:46.400 the crisis
00:32:47.420 of the moment
00:32:47.940 is and
00:32:48.320 unfortunately
00:32:48.760 I feel like
00:32:49.320 they've trained
00:32:49.780 the population
00:32:50.500 like Pavlov's
00:32:51.880 dog to
00:32:52.400 respond to them
00:32:53.840 let me leave
00:32:56.840 you with our
00:32:57.400 video of the
00:32:57.780 day by
00:32:58.060 David Menzies
00:32:58.820 big cheers
00:33:00.500 for defunding
00:33:01.440 the CBC
00:33:02.120 at a Pierre
00:33:02.680 Polyev event
00:33:03.380 in Toronto
00:33:03.760 I find this
00:33:04.420 pretty hopeful
00:33:05.520 I'll leave you
00:33:06.000 with this
00:33:06.420 to cheer you
00:33:07.340 up a bit
00:33:07.860 until tomorrow
00:33:08.900 on behalf of
00:33:09.460 all of us
00:33:09.800 here at Rebel
00:33:10.240 World Headquarters
00:33:11.120 goodnight
00:33:12.220 keep fighting
00:33:13.040 for freedom
00:33:13.540 David Menzies
00:33:14.220 for Rebel
00:33:14.760 news here
00:33:15.580 in Toronto
00:33:16.120 well folks
00:33:16.660 I'm at the
00:33:17.420 rally in
00:33:18.400 Don Valley
00:33:19.100 it's Pierre
00:33:20.100 Polyev
00:33:20.740 he's dropped
00:33:21.260 by Toronto
00:33:21.940 as part of
00:33:22.920 his cross
00:33:23.840 country tour
00:33:24.600 and he just
00:33:25.780 wrapped up
00:33:26.260 speaking
00:33:26.660 he touched
00:33:27.080 on many
00:33:27.700 subjects
00:33:28.300 fiscal
00:33:29.120 responsibility
00:33:30.060 energy
00:33:31.120 independence
00:33:31.700 for Canada
00:33:32.440 striking out
00:33:34.080 against
00:33:34.420 wokeism
00:33:35.240 and censorship
00:33:36.520 and a lot
00:33:38.400 of he got
00:33:39.200 several standing
00:33:40.380 ovations from
00:33:41.260 people right now
00:33:42.180 in a lineup
00:33:42.780 to meet him
00:33:43.820 and actually
00:33:45.100 some people
00:33:45.640 are here
00:33:45.980 to buy
00:33:46.580 conservative
00:33:47.320 memberships
00:33:48.780 now we were
00:33:49.820 told by his
00:33:50.500 handlers
00:33:50.960 he is not
00:33:52.080 taking any
00:33:52.660 questions today
00:33:53.380 he has to leave
00:33:54.000 right away
00:33:54.500 to Hamilton
00:33:55.320 so we're just
00:33:56.140 going to speak
00:33:56.680 to some of
00:33:57.560 the folks
00:33:58.000 that sat
00:33:58.560 through the
00:33:59.000 speech
00:33:59.320 and see
00:34:00.460 what they
00:34:00.800 have to say
00:34:01.520 about the
00:34:02.940 man who
00:34:03.520 wants to be
00:34:04.300 our next
00:34:05.280 Prime Minister
00:34:06.160 dictatorships
00:34:08.080 with no
00:34:08.520 environmental
00:34:09.060 standards
00:34:09.640 whatsoever
00:34:10.220 are filling
00:34:10.700 their pockets
00:34:11.440 with money
00:34:12.240 that should
00:34:12.620 be used
00:34:12.960 for paychecks
00:34:13.720 for Canadian
00:34:14.360 workers
00:34:14.840 and when we
00:34:15.480 get the gatekeepers
00:34:16.300 out of the way
00:34:16.820 those workers
00:34:17.540 will have
00:34:17.920 those paychecks
00:34:18.660 what struck
00:34:22.280 you the most
00:34:22.840 about what he
00:34:23.320 had to say
00:34:23.740 today
00:34:24.040 I liked
00:34:24.740 everything he
00:34:25.340 had to say
00:34:25.960 I'm just
00:34:26.640 hoping that
00:34:27.260 you will
00:34:27.740 follow through
00:34:28.280 if elected
00:34:29.040 because we've
00:34:29.760 been waiting
00:34:30.100 for two years
00:34:30.700 to hear something
00:34:31.400 like this
00:34:32.040 freedom
00:34:32.500 it's all about
00:34:33.740 the freedom
00:34:34.220 freedom for
00:34:35.140 Canadians
00:34:35.580 freedom for
00:34:37.180 Canada
00:34:37.580 I mean
00:34:38.200 I've been here
00:34:39.860 30 years
00:34:40.600 and I've never
00:34:41.260 seen the
00:34:41.840 country
00:34:42.240 where it's
00:34:43.200 at now
00:34:43.620 I'm always
00:34:44.340 interested in
00:34:44.940 what Pierre
00:34:45.300 Polyevs is
00:34:46.400 out there to
00:34:47.140 say
00:34:47.300 he has a lot
00:34:47.820 of unique
00:34:48.200 messages out
00:34:49.080 there
00:34:49.220 but I find
00:34:49.840 he focuses
00:34:50.360 on the
00:34:51.060 economic
00:34:51.640 perspective
00:34:52.220 when there
00:34:53.860 is the
00:34:54.380 left out
00:34:54.820 dimension
00:34:55.640 of the
00:34:56.320 social aspect
00:34:57.100 of what
00:34:57.780 we're about
00:34:58.360 to face
00:34:58.740 having a
00:34:59.320 leader
00:34:59.560 who actually
00:35:00.840 stands for
00:35:01.400 the people
00:35:01.800 and gives
00:35:02.560 people the
00:35:03.000 democracy
00:35:03.440 rights
00:35:03.940 and power
00:35:05.220 as well
00:35:05.660 we work
00:35:06.480 together as a
00:35:07.000 team
00:35:07.180 not just
00:35:07.780 you know
00:35:08.460 we had
00:35:08.960 a lot of
00:35:09.400 problems with
00:35:09.820 Justin Trudeau
00:35:10.500 in the past
00:35:11.040 with you know
00:35:11.880 taking those
00:35:12.420 rights away
00:35:13.260 from the
00:35:13.540 people and
00:35:14.280 people having
00:35:15.080 power to
00:35:15.600 actually have
00:35:16.060 democracy
00:35:16.460 so that's
00:35:17.460 something that
00:35:17.720 really spoke
00:35:18.080 to me
00:35:18.280 and also
00:35:18.740 the inflation
00:35:19.780 that's going
00:35:20.540 on that's a
00:35:21.200 big thing for
00:35:21.760 me as well
00:35:22.280 many many
00:35:22.840 things actually
00:35:23.460 but what I
00:35:24.120 do believe
00:35:25.420 now is
00:35:26.280 he's reinstilled
00:35:27.700 my faith
00:35:28.460 in Canada
00:35:29.200 and it's a
00:35:29.660 faith which I've
00:35:30.100 lost
00:35:30.400 so
00:35:31.520 by regards
00:35:32.380 Rebel News
00:35:32.840 I appreciate
00:35:33.400 your guys'
00:35:33.920 effort too
00:35:34.280 and your honesty
00:35:34.780 on a lot
00:35:35.360 of subjects
00:35:35.900 of which
00:35:36.940 many governments
00:35:37.980 are not
00:35:38.480 truthful
00:35:39.160 or they hide
00:35:40.760 when I go to
00:35:41.340 work every
00:35:41.840 morning I see
00:35:42.780 people smoking
00:35:44.680 drugs on the
00:35:45.980 transit and I
00:35:47.280 go through
00:35:47.740 numerous delays
00:35:48.700 because someone's
00:35:49.900 going through
00:35:50.360 some kind of
00:35:51.060 crisis and
00:35:52.280 we see encampments
00:35:54.220 in our parks
00:35:55.060 and safe injection
00:35:56.140 sites where they
00:35:57.040 ought not to be
00:35:57.980 and I just
00:35:59.240 wonder what his
00:36:00.120 plan is versus
00:36:01.160 the Liberal
00:36:02.120 plan and their
00:36:03.500 progressive policies
00:36:04.600 that aren't
00:36:05.180 exactly serving
00:36:06.220 our communities
00:36:06.980 I liked what he
00:36:07.880 had to say
00:36:08.480 like I said
00:36:09.520 it resonated
00:36:10.000 with me
00:36:10.400 but I'm just
00:36:11.200 wondering is this
00:36:12.340 going to happen
00:36:12.880 is it going to
00:36:13.380 come true
00:36:13.760 is he going to
00:36:14.260 be able to
00:36:14.680 deliver all these
00:36:15.420 things that he
00:36:15.960 said I like the
00:36:16.660 idea of bringing
00:36:18.000 you know the
00:36:18.700 oils back here
00:36:19.480 the jobs back
00:36:20.160 here for Canadians
00:36:21.000 there's a lot of
00:36:22.020 things that he
00:36:22.420 said that I
00:36:22.840 really liked
00:36:23.480 now we just
00:36:24.800 got to wait
00:36:25.340 and see what
00:36:26.020 happens
00:36:26.360 so if a
00:36:27.400 bureaucrat sees
00:36:28.260 you say something
00:36:29.160 that they think
00:36:29.900 might lead to a
00:36:30.600 political outcome
00:36:31.340 that's not good
00:36:32.000 for them
00:36:32.500 they could put you
00:36:33.520 in jail for that
00:36:34.380 forget it
00:36:35.620 that is an attack
00:36:36.460 on our freedom
00:36:37.120 we live in the
00:36:39.100 free country here
00:36:40.020 we have the right
00:36:41.540 to decide what we
00:36:42.540 see and say
00:36:44.000 a Polyev government
00:36:45.440 will repeal the
00:36:46.540 anti-free speech
00:36:47.640 laws and allow
00:36:48.540 Canadians to think
00:36:49.560 of themselves
00:36:50.040 do you trust the
00:36:53.260 mainstream media to
00:36:54.300 give Pierre Polyev a
00:36:55.420 fair shake
00:36:55.940 no no I don't
00:36:58.160 no so I appreciate
00:36:59.300 your efforts in that
00:36:59.900 regards
00:37:00.340 in fact there was a
00:37:01.460 story in the star
00:37:02.180 today quoting
00:37:03.660 anonymously of course
00:37:05.040 a senior conservative
00:37:06.120 official who was
00:37:07.320 concerned about
00:37:08.280 Mr. Polyev delivering
00:37:11.160 juvenile political
00:37:12.780 theater did you see
00:37:13.880 anything today that
00:37:14.760 was juvenile
00:37:15.240 if anything
00:37:16.040 I'm not theatrical
00:37:17.960 at all
00:37:18.340 and I was
00:37:19.280 motivated by his
00:37:20.040 speech I think
00:37:20.380 he's honest I
00:37:21.040 think he's an
00:37:21.620 actual honest
00:37:22.980 representation of
00:37:23.960 himself and I'm
00:37:25.320 going to vote for
00:37:25.840 him and I'm
00:37:26.340 actually going to
00:37:26.740 push my peers and
00:37:27.580 friends to at least
00:37:29.280 consider voting for
00:37:30.060 him I hope he gets
00:37:30.640 in matter of fact I'm
00:37:31.520 going to go buy a
00:37:31.960 membership right now
00:37:32.520 for myself and my
00:37:33.060 wife
00:37:33.320 thank you very much
00:37:34.940 sir
00:37:35.160 yes and no
00:37:36.320 no
00:37:37.020 no because I feel
00:37:38.800 like a lot of the
00:37:39.500 mainstream media is
00:37:40.440 funded by you know
00:37:41.460 liberals and you know
00:37:42.860 those follies and
00:37:43.740 stuff like that so
00:37:44.760 and they're just
00:37:45.360 repressing us and we
00:37:46.420 need to stand up
00:37:47.240 against them and we
00:37:48.720 need to demand our
00:37:49.680 freedom it's ours and
00:37:51.480 they can't take it
00:37:52.240 did you see anything
00:37:53.160 that was juvenile
00:37:54.560 political theater today
00:37:55.600 absolutely not I
00:37:56.580 thought he did a
00:37:57.220 great job he gave a
00:37:58.480 great speech he
00:37:59.220 touched on a lot of
00:38:00.180 subjects that
00:38:00.860 everybody's been
00:38:01.900 wanting to hear like
00:38:03.160 the things that we
00:38:03.860 are concerned about
00:38:04.560 every single Canadian
00:38:05.480 citizen should be
00:38:06.320 concerned about these
00:38:07.480 are the things that
00:38:08.160 are important to all
00:38:08.840 of us
00:38:09.240 no he's pretty honest I
00:38:10.660 have to say like he
00:38:11.820 just seems like a
00:38:12.560 real well-rounded man
00:38:14.560 who's very honest and
00:38:15.620 wants for the people
00:38:16.420 is that what you
00:38:17.380 witness today juvenile
00:38:18.400 political theater not
00:38:19.680 at all I saw up here
00:38:20.840 uniting people bringing
00:38:22.420 people together and
00:38:23.640 you can see well the
00:38:25.300 CBC is not going to
00:38:26.040 give them a fair shake
00:38:26.780 and neither are the
00:38:28.520 other media that's been
00:38:29.380 paid for by by Trudeau
00:38:31.720 they're bought and
00:38:34.120 paid for and they're
00:38:34.940 not going to support
00:38:35.580 the guy that's going to
00:38:36.400 bring unity to our
00:38:38.300 country
00:38:38.700 yeah he had quite a
00:38:39.900 line when he said oh
00:38:40.980 I just found a
00:38:41.620 billion dollars
00:38:42.260 defund the CBC I
00:38:43.640 thought the roof was
00:38:44.760 going to blow off the
00:38:45.720 the conference area
00:38:47.380 oh and I just found
00:38:48.340 another billion dollars
00:38:49.360 we're going to defund
00:38:50.180 the CBC
00:38:50.800 certainly he is saying
00:38:58.240 so many right things
00:38:59.640 but are you worried
00:39:01.500 man at all that we
00:39:03.020 saw the same thing with
00:39:04.180 Aaron O'Toole he said
00:39:05.440 he was a true blue
00:39:06.360 conservative once he
00:39:07.420 became leader he turned
00:39:08.940 into a red Tory do you
00:39:10.720 think Pierre is indeed
00:39:12.020 coming as advertised
00:39:13.180 yes I feel like he's
00:39:15.380 very educated and I
00:39:16.580 feel like he made his
00:39:17.680 you know well-rounded
00:39:19.500 standing in Parliament
00:39:20.580 over time even with the
00:39:22.380 pandemic even before
00:39:23.400 that I feel like he stays
00:39:25.320 true to his character
00:39:26.100 and true to the people
00:39:27.720 and what he says he
00:39:28.600 follows through for what
00:39:30.200 we've seen I watch a lot
00:39:31.280 of him in like Parliament
00:39:32.460 as well the House of
00:39:33.400 Commons and I feel like
00:39:34.700 he's a little stronger
00:39:35.620 than Aaron O'Toole in that
00:39:36.760 stance