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EZRA LEVANT ｜ A conservative politician named Randy Hillier was arrested. What does that say about our civil liberties？


Summary

Randy Hillier, a conservative politician in Ontario, was arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer. What does that say about our civil liberties? And why are so many people thrilled about it? Is this a sign of corruption in Canada?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friend. Special show today. It's all about the arrest of Randy Hillier, a member
00:00:04.060 of the Provincial Parliament of Ontario. You can like Randy or dislike him, doesn't much matter.
00:00:09.460 The fact that he was arrested for peaceful political protest, deeply troubling. Trumped
00:00:14.060 up charges. I'll take you through one of them. But even more troubling than the fact he was charged
00:00:19.440 is the fact that so many people are cool with it. In fact, so many people are thrilled by it. I'm
00:00:24.260 worried about the rest of us, not just about Randy. That's today's show. It's up in a minute.
00:00:30.320 Let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. I want to show you what they claim
00:00:35.000 was Randy assaulting a police officer. We got the video. You're going to laugh or cry. I don't know.
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00:01:07.160 Tonight, a conservative politician named Randy Hillier was arrested.
00:01:20.980 What does that say about our civil liberties? It's March 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:28.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:32.240 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:36.320 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
00:01:40.900 bloody right to do so.
00:01:42.160 There are some countries in the world that give their sitting politicians legal immunity.
00:01:54.940 As in, you can't sue or prosecute their politicians while they're still in office.
00:01:59.460 It's easy enough to understand the thinking, because they could be sued on a nuisance basis,
00:02:05.800 not just in civil courts, but trumped up criminal accusations too. But
00:02:10.480 typically, it's corrupt or partly corrupt countries that give this immunity because
00:02:17.500 you've got to be pretty worried about your police and prosecutors and courts being politicized if
00:02:25.620 you're going to tell them that you trust none of them and that none of them can lay a glove on
00:02:32.020 politicians until they're out of office. I mean, that's a pretty low opinion of your court system,
00:02:37.040 isn't it? I suppose another way of looking at it, which is equally corrupt and just as depressing,
00:02:42.960 is that you are not so certain that the judges and prosecutors are corrupt. You're certain that
00:02:49.680 the politicians are absolutely going to do nasty things, corrupt things, including financially.
00:02:55.660 So you're so certain your politicians are crooks that you don't want them charged. Maybe you're
00:03:01.780 crook who brought in this rule. Either way, it's a sign of very, very bad things in your country,
00:03:07.060 isn't it? But that said, political prosecutions do happen. Don't think for a second, for example,
00:03:14.760 of the RCMP laying charges and the attorney general having a two-year circus about Mike Duffy's
00:03:21.280 expense accounts on the eve of Harper's 2015 election. Don't think that was anything other
00:03:26.440 than a political mission. As you know, Mike Duffy was acquitted of all the charges and the
00:03:32.540 corruption in question was the laughable case. I've never heard of this in my life of Nigel Wright,
00:03:38.900 Harper's chief of staff, voluntarily paying to the government over a hundred grand to cover the
00:03:44.360 questionable expenses. Never seen a scandal that involved people paying money into the government
00:03:49.660 before. Compare that circus-like prosecution to, I don't know, say the SNC-Lavalin corruption case,
00:03:57.320 where the justice minister herself resigned in disgust over being pressured by Trudeau in his office to
00:04:03.140 interfere with a criminal trial. Former attorneys general across the country demanded that the RCMP
00:04:09.240 investigate, but they did not. So yeah, don't think our police and prosecutors and courts are squeaky clean.
00:04:16.720 Canada is sinking in the Transparency International Corruption Index. We've fallen under Justin Trudeau.
00:04:25.480 I wonder why the CBC doesn't make a bigger deal about that. I suppose that's part of corruption too,
00:04:30.620 when the watchdogs are pacified. They're turned into lapdogs by paying them. You're pretty sure
00:04:38.780 more corruption will happen if you pay off the journalists who are supposed to be watching. Randy
00:04:44.040 Hillier is one guy who I don't think is corrupt. He's always been outspoken. He's always criticized
00:04:50.800 authority and power. That's why he was sacked by Doug Ford, kicked out of the provincial Ontario
00:04:57.760 Conservative Party. Anyone who called out the lockdowns was. Randy Hillier just wouldn't bend the
00:05:04.540 knee, not to Doug Ford, not to Trudeau, not to public health officials. He was noisy and he, gasp,
00:05:12.260 wouldn't wear a mask. He was a friend of the truckers, which these days is the worst sin of all. So
00:05:19.500 yesterday he was told by police to turn himself in at the Ottawa police police station. But of course
00:05:27.440 he was. I mean, the shocking list of charges against him, including that he allegedly assaulted a police
00:05:34.820 officer. Which is odd because you'd think that would be on camera somewhere. I've never seen it.
00:05:41.660 Randy Hillier himself said he had no idea what that was even referring to. Apparently it came out in the
00:05:47.600 bail hearing yesterday that it was for this, seriously, for pushing open a gate that had been
00:05:54.540 bizarrely placed in the way of pedestrians on Parliament Hill during the trucker convoy.
00:06:00.220 For this? He was charged with assault? Yeah. I mean, this is a stitch up. Listen,
00:06:08.420 we'll hear what the evidence is when the trial comes. Sounds pretty thin to me. Sounds like they've
00:06:14.400 been waiting to take a run at Randy Hillier for a long time. He's mouthy. He criticizes everyone
00:06:20.120 on all sides, including in his own party. And he gave moral support to the truckers. That's
00:06:26.600 tantamount to terrorism, if you ask Justin Trudeau. I'm worried though. Really I am, not just by the
00:06:33.040 arrest and the obviously trumped up charges assaulting police. And we'll talk in a minute
00:06:38.700 about the bail conditions that the judge put on Randy Hillier. It's unacceptable. It's like the bail
00:06:44.680 conditions put on Tamara Lich, the trucker convoy founder. She may not criticize the government
00:06:50.920 or any lockdowns or any mask mandates. She's just not allowed to. That's Putin stuff. That's Castro
00:06:56.960 stuff. I'm upset by the arrest and by the bail conditions and the new role of the police as
00:07:02.500 political police. But much more than that, I'm worried about the rest of us.
00:07:08.740 The national reaction to this, the glee in the press corps, the jubilation amongst politicians
00:07:15.640 of almost every party, by the way, worse of the silence of the so-called conservatives and so-called
00:07:23.280 freedom groups, civil liberties groups, where are they? A politician was arrested on clearly
00:07:29.480 exaggerated grounds, released on bail with a condition that he not criticize the government
00:07:35.700 on social media. And this is taken as it's normal now? Just normal. Is it because of the emergency
00:07:43.720 act and the banana republicification of Canada? It's now accepted that this is how it is now.
00:07:50.240 The seizing of bank accounts, that's just how it is now. The police checkpoints in our capital city,
00:07:56.900 the police being arbiters of political comments. That's normal now? People being arrested for honking
00:08:03.960 like this in Calgary.
00:08:07.980 Hi, sir. Mocha with Rebel Luz. Are you guys getting a ticket for honking?
00:08:12.380 For honking.
00:08:13.200 For honking, right?
00:08:13.860 That guy.
00:08:16.120 Sleep well.
00:08:18.240 Piece of shit.
00:08:19.240 What do you make of this?
00:08:20.420 God, shit. Let's get some fucking friends and friends.
00:08:23.060 Whether someone walked in their way or we just honked to say thank you. Absolute fucking shit.
00:08:28.720 And you get a ticket for that?
00:08:30.040 Yep.
00:08:30.260 Yeah. It seems like you're not the only one. There are a couple of more cars.
00:08:33.920 Everybody, pull more people over. Absolute tyranny.
00:08:38.960 Trudeau.
00:08:41.420 Wow, that's unbelievable.
00:08:43.120 I'm gonna fucking do that.
00:08:44.040 Take care.
00:08:44.440 What do you make of this? You just honked and now you're getting pulled over.
00:09:04.060 He can't even tell me any more than, oh, there's an injunction. You can't honk your horn.
00:09:10.780 I go, so you can't honk your horn ever? Well, yeah, there's an injunction. So that was his
00:09:15.220 excuse to me. Wow.
00:09:24.940 It's an improver uniform.
00:09:32.500 All the way with it.
00:09:33.880 Thank you.
00:09:34.220 How much is the ticket?
00:09:36.100 89 bucks.
00:09:37.360 Wow.
00:09:37.620 Oh, $81.
00:09:38.760 For honking. And how much did you honk?
00:09:41.260 Oh, I don't know.
00:09:42.640 You don't remember?
00:09:43.660 That one there, maybe honked three times.
00:09:47.220 Well.
00:09:49.360 Isn't this an interesting world, eh?
00:09:51.220 It is. It is. It really is.
00:09:53.000 So here.
00:09:53.360 Yeah, that's $81 right there.
00:09:59.560 Now you can't even honk your horn in Calgary.
00:10:07.720 Oh, freedom!
00:10:08.840 Oh, freedom!
00:10:11.760 Oh, freedom.
00:10:13.080 Oh, freedom.
00:10:13.200 Oh, freedom.
00:10:13.220 Oh, freedom.
00:10:16.960 Oh, freedom.
00:10:18.600 Oh, freedom.
00:10:19.360 Oh, freedom.
00:10:20.360 Oh, freedom.
00:10:21.360 Oh, freedom.
00:10:23.360 In Calgary?
00:10:31.040 The establishment has brought itself into disrepute.
00:10:33.840 Politicians, judges, police, the media, every institution.
00:10:38.500 But where is the general public outcry and outrage?
00:10:43.600 I don't know.
00:10:44.460 Is this now who we are as a country?
00:10:47.120 I hope not.
00:10:48.240 And if we're fine with this,
00:10:49.960 and if no one pushes back politically or legally or journalistically,
00:10:54.360 what next?
00:10:57.020 You think Trudeau and his crew will stop?
00:10:59.440 Why?
00:10:59.920 They're tired of winning?
00:11:02.200 They get hungrier the more they eat,
00:11:05.100 as if increase of appetite had grown by what it fed on.
00:11:08.920 Tyrants don't stop as they get more tyrannical.
00:11:14.660 It sort of speeds up.
00:11:16.160 They're accustomed to things.
00:11:18.100 They're unaccustomed to be challenged anymore.
00:11:22.680 They hate any holdouts.
00:11:24.920 They may have 99% of journalists in their pocket,
00:11:27.760 99% of lawyers and judges,
00:11:29.900 99% of political activists,
00:11:32.160 but they get infuriated by the 1% holdouts.
00:11:36.540 They want more, ever more.
00:11:40.120 I'm worried by that.
00:11:41.180 We'll see what they have on Randy Hillier when the trial comes.
00:11:44.040 I'm skeptical.
00:11:45.460 But even if he's acquitted,
00:11:47.560 the establishment now knows something they didn't know before.
00:11:53.600 They know they can get away with arresting conservative politicians.
00:11:56.520 They're endlessly seeking boundaries,
00:12:00.140 seeking some limit.
00:12:02.640 And two years into this,
00:12:04.060 they still haven't found a limit, have they?
00:12:07.060 Stay with us for more as we talk to Randy Hillier's lawyer names.
00:12:22.180 Well, Randy Hillier is a free man until his trial,
00:12:25.060 but he's not quite free.
00:12:26.940 He's not fully free.
00:12:27.860 In fact, there are some political conditions on his release.
00:12:31.220 Joining us now to talk about the whole thing
00:12:32.860 is Randy Hillier's lawyer, David Anber,
00:12:36.060 who in the past has worked with Rebel News and the Democracy Fund.
00:12:39.180 He joins us now via Skype.
00:12:40.280 David, what a pleasure to see you again.
00:12:42.040 Thanks for making the time.
00:12:43.040 You're so busy between Randy Hillier
00:12:44.940 and your other civil liberties clients.
00:12:47.520 Can you give our viewers an update?
00:12:50.360 What was it like in court,
00:12:52.940 in front of the Justice of the Peace,
00:12:54.100 I understand it was,
00:12:55.660 when the Crown wanted onerous conditions on Randy Hillier?
00:13:00.600 How did that go?
00:13:01.360 Did you negotiate with the prosecutor?
00:13:03.960 Was it a debate in front of a judge?
00:13:05.860 How did you get him out?
00:13:07.660 So it went, Ezra, thanks for having me again.
00:13:09.940 It went through a good part of the day.
00:13:12.520 Early in the morning, into the afternoon,
00:13:14.840 there were some discussions back and forth
00:13:16.760 between the Crown and I
00:13:17.920 on conditions for Randy Hillier's release.
00:13:22.540 I went over the majority of them with Randy
00:13:26.020 and he was fine with them.
00:13:27.360 And now what normally happens
00:13:28.620 is it's either sort of a take it or leave it type situation.
00:13:31.480 Either the person has to agree to all the conditions
00:13:34.020 as finely negotiated
00:13:35.460 or otherwise have a bail hearing
00:13:37.720 where everything is at issue.
00:13:39.580 In this particular case,
00:13:40.960 there was one half of one of the conditions
00:13:43.900 that we could not agree to.
00:13:46.280 And so I got the Crown to agree
00:13:48.460 that we could put that in front of the court
00:13:51.140 and have a hearing on that narrow issue only.
00:13:54.520 And so the issue was whether or not
00:13:56.680 Randy Hillier would be prevented from
00:13:59.340 on social media
00:14:01.200 or through his support of organizations
00:14:03.380 be able to comment on
00:14:05.580 or support anti-mask mandates
00:14:08.420 and anti-vaccine mandate organizations or causes.
00:14:12.260 My argument was that
00:14:14.600 none of those subjects had anything to do
00:14:17.700 with the allegations that were before the court
00:14:20.020 and therefore should not have formed
00:14:21.600 part of his bail hearing.
00:14:23.840 Unfortunately, the justice of the peace
00:14:25.360 disagreed and sided with the Crown on that.
00:14:27.480 But because Randy did not agree to that condition,
00:14:30.960 it remains an option available to us
00:14:33.240 to appeal through the bail review process
00:14:35.420 to go to a higher court
00:14:36.960 and challenge that decision
00:14:38.780 and essentially appeal the finding.
00:14:41.020 Right.
00:14:41.120 So the other typical conditions,
00:14:43.320 my guess is you were able to negotiate things
00:14:45.240 like, for example,
00:14:46.960 sometimes it's called a surety
00:14:48.680 or a certain amount of dough
00:14:51.140 or don't leave the country.
00:14:53.440 Are those conditions publicly known?
00:14:56.580 Are you able to discuss those?
00:14:58.060 Yeah.
00:14:58.360 Yeah.
00:14:58.640 I mean, there's some standard,
00:14:59.800 very simple conditions
00:15:00.740 reside at a specific address
00:15:02.300 and notify the police
00:15:03.380 if there's going to be a change of address.
00:15:05.440 Again, there was never any concern
00:15:06.680 about Randy not coming to court.
00:15:08.540 The concerns were on the so-called
00:15:10.600 second and tertiary grounds
00:15:12.020 dealing with the possibility
00:15:13.700 of further re-offense
00:15:15.180 and also the reputation
00:15:17.080 of the justice system
00:15:18.340 if somebody is released.
00:15:21.000 And so, you know,
00:15:23.000 there were conditions
00:15:24.100 that he can't have contact
00:15:25.220 with people who were organizers
00:15:27.140 of the Freedom Convoy, for example.
00:15:29.600 And that's a fairly ordinary type of condition
00:15:32.700 that when you have a number of people
00:15:34.540 who are charged in relation
00:15:35.880 to the same organization
00:15:38.660 or the same incident,
00:15:41.220 there are normally conditions
00:15:42.640 that the different people
00:15:43.600 can't communicate with one another.
00:15:45.580 Now, were those organizers,
00:15:47.660 were they named a particular list of people?
00:15:51.400 They were.
00:15:52.180 And I mean, some of the names
00:15:53.160 were names that have become household names
00:15:55.380 that we recognize,
00:15:56.300 Tamara Leach, Chris Barber, Pat King.
00:15:59.040 But there are also other names,
00:16:00.600 some of which Randy or I recognize,
00:16:03.480 other ones that weren't quite clear
00:16:05.860 to us who they were,
00:16:06.780 but it could just simply be
00:16:08.200 other individuals
00:16:09.360 who are either facing charges
00:16:11.680 due to their involvement
00:16:13.300 in the Freedom Convoy
00:16:14.380 or maybe they're persons of interest
00:16:16.580 that are currently being investigated
00:16:18.000 by the police.
00:16:19.960 Now, I want to get back
00:16:20.920 to the political speech ban,
00:16:22.760 which concerns me greatly
00:16:23.960 because, I mean, I think, frankly,
00:16:27.280 some of the charges
00:16:28.400 that Randy's facing are laughable.
00:16:31.080 I mean, assault on an officer
00:16:33.120 the fact that Randy
00:16:34.800 didn't even know what that was,
00:16:36.360 didn't even know
00:16:36.800 what they were talking about.
00:16:37.740 And by the way,
00:16:38.800 I just want to tell our viewers
00:16:39.680 I understand why you're here
00:16:41.360 instead of Randy.
00:16:42.560 Randy's a chatty fella,
00:16:44.060 loves to talk.
00:16:44.820 We love talking with him.
00:16:45.900 But, of course,
00:16:47.640 given that there's a restraining order
00:16:50.520 on what he can say,
00:16:51.280 we don't want to get him in trouble
00:16:52.300 and you can speak for him.
00:16:55.660 Right.
00:16:57.260 I think these are trumped up.
00:16:58.740 I think this is political in nature.
00:17:00.200 I think Randy,
00:17:01.320 I'm actually surprised
00:17:02.540 he wasn't jailed
00:17:03.540 the same way Tamera Litch
00:17:04.900 and some of the other characters
00:17:05.820 you've mentioned were jailed.
00:17:08.380 So I think congratulations go to you
00:17:11.020 in large part
00:17:12.540 for negotiating with the prosecutor.
00:17:15.440 But I want to get to the wording.
00:17:18.200 So Randy Hillier
00:17:19.420 is not allowed to criticize
00:17:21.420 mask mandates
00:17:22.900 or vaccine mandates
00:17:24.600 or to talk about those issues
00:17:28.160 on social media.
00:17:30.120 Is that the wording?
00:17:31.620 Or, like, for example,
00:17:33.360 can he talk,
00:17:33.920 he's a member
00:17:34.740 of the legislature of Ontario.
00:17:36.540 Can he talk about them there?
00:17:38.020 Can he,
00:17:38.660 if a reporter for the Toronto Star
00:17:40.260 asks him a question
00:17:41.240 about vaccine mandates,
00:17:43.060 is Randy Hillier
00:17:43.740 allowed to talk to him?
00:17:45.480 Well,
00:17:45.940 that was one of the arguments
00:17:47.780 made by the Crown,
00:17:49.300 which I thought was somewhat
00:17:50.440 of an unpersuasive argument.
00:17:53.060 But the Justice of Peace
00:17:54.460 seemed to cue in on that,
00:17:56.380 saying that he's not,
00:17:57.180 he's not prevented
00:17:58.080 from speaking about these matters.
00:18:00.020 He's prevented from speaking
00:18:01.400 of those matters on social media.
00:18:03.940 But, like,
00:18:04.960 let me help you understand something,
00:18:06.300 because a lot of people actually,
00:18:07.920 I did get some criticism for this,
00:18:09.700 saying that we had actually agreed
00:18:11.340 to the social media ban
00:18:13.960 on referring to the Freedom Convoy
00:18:17.440 and also being able to support
00:18:20.000 the so-called Freedom Convoy
00:18:21.660 or any organization
00:18:22.620 that bears that name.
00:18:24.160 And that is not
00:18:25.260 an unusual bail condition,
00:18:26.720 because whenever the allegation
00:18:28.860 is that somebody was involved
00:18:31.640 with some group or organization
00:18:34.060 that is the basis
00:18:35.260 for the alleged crimes,
00:18:36.640 and I'm not saying
00:18:37.380 he's guilty of those crimes.
00:18:38.900 In fact,
00:18:39.260 I'm saying he's not guilty
00:18:40.900 of those crimes.
00:18:41.940 But where there are charges
00:18:43.360 before the court
00:18:44.140 and the theory of the prosecution
00:18:45.700 is that there was
00:18:46.900 a group of people
00:18:48.200 or an organization
00:18:49.480 or a place
00:18:50.700 or an incident,
00:18:51.240 it's quite common
00:18:52.420 to separate the accused person
00:18:54.240 from that organization,
00:18:55.960 place,
00:18:56.320 group of people,
00:18:56.980 et cetera.
00:18:57.500 So that wasn't unusual.
00:18:58.800 But where it got weird,
00:19:00.500 in my view,
00:19:01.440 was including also
00:19:03.520 a prohibition
00:19:05.000 against speaking
00:19:05.720 about vaccine mandates
00:19:07.800 or mask mandates
00:19:09.680 on social media
00:19:10.860 or supporting a group
00:19:13.580 or organization
00:19:14.340 that is against vaccine mandates
00:19:17.080 or mask mandates.
00:19:18.560 And that, in my view,
00:19:19.640 had no connection
00:19:20.600 to the offenses whatsoever
00:19:22.780 and should not have been
00:19:23.800 part of his bail.
00:19:25.220 I mean, again,
00:19:25.880 it doesn't come as a surprise
00:19:27.900 that I made this argument
00:19:29.380 and I don't believe
00:19:30.200 that the court got it right.
00:19:31.740 Again, I won't say
00:19:32.960 too much on that.
00:19:33.780 I mean, the court
00:19:34.160 can't defend itself
00:19:35.120 or respond to these criticisms,
00:19:37.100 but I'll just say
00:19:38.000 that we are considering
00:19:38.980 an appeal of that decision.
00:19:41.180 Yeah, well, I mean,
00:19:41.680 that's the thing.
00:19:42.300 It's one thing to say,
00:19:43.220 OK, he's charged
00:19:44.080 and he's charged,
00:19:45.040 so stay away from them.
00:19:46.380 That sounds plausible to me.
00:19:47.920 But you cannot criticize masks.
00:19:51.320 I mean, as if that in itself
00:19:53.880 is enough to send someone to jail,
00:19:56.280 that's deeply troubling
00:19:57.700 that the prosecutor
00:19:58.580 would demand it
00:19:59.380 and that a judge would uphold it.
00:20:01.240 And I certainly hope
00:20:02.340 you do appeal that,
00:20:03.800 at least on that.
00:20:04.420 I mean, it seems to me
00:20:06.600 that there's a bit of a madness
00:20:08.440 that's taken over the courts,
00:20:09.800 especially in the city of Ottawa.
00:20:11.400 Like this mania,
00:20:13.140 this phobia,
00:20:14.060 this paranoia.
00:20:15.300 I think they whipped themselves
00:20:17.120 up into a hysterical frenzy.
00:20:19.320 I was there for a few days,
00:20:21.000 not for the whole thing,
00:20:22.460 but it's a lie to say
00:20:23.500 the whole city was locked down.
00:20:25.880 After the first few days,
00:20:27.480 there was a clear lane
00:20:29.180 made on every key road.
00:20:31.380 In fact, after a while,
00:20:32.200 the police were the ones
00:20:33.280 who were blocking
00:20:34.000 most of the roads,
00:20:35.360 saying we're, you know,
00:20:36.740 who were having like drawbridges,
00:20:38.440 practically, to get downtown.
00:20:40.300 It was police who set up
00:20:41.620 100 checkpoints
00:20:42.520 on Parliament Hill.
00:20:44.340 The panic, the mania
00:20:45.960 did not come from the truckers
00:20:48.120 who were playful and joyful
00:20:49.460 and had a festival mode.
00:20:51.080 I think that town
00:20:52.160 went slightly mad.
00:20:54.000 And I think that town
00:20:55.080 has a lot of bureaucrats
00:20:56.220 and liberal politicians.
00:20:58.000 They sort of
00:20:59.000 egged each other on.
00:21:01.020 And I think Randy Hillier
00:21:01.940 and certainly the other truckers
00:21:03.360 are a victim of it.
00:21:04.020 What do you think?
00:21:05.360 Well, I think,
00:21:06.040 I mean, you said it,
00:21:06.920 you went to great lengths
00:21:08.220 to sort of describe
00:21:09.300 the atmosphere
00:21:11.300 in the protest
00:21:12.400 as it actually was.
00:21:14.240 And I've said this before
00:21:15.100 and I'll say it again.
00:21:16.120 There are these two
00:21:17.080 competing realities
00:21:18.720 as to what actually happened.
00:21:20.640 There's the version,
00:21:21.420 as you've indicated,
00:21:22.220 where virtually all roads
00:21:23.700 where truckers
00:21:25.200 had parked their trucks
00:21:26.180 had a lane of traffic
00:21:27.560 to allow emergency vehicles
00:21:29.600 and even ordinary vehicles
00:21:31.380 to pass through.
00:21:32.660 We know there was
00:21:33.320 a lot of honking
00:21:34.120 that was going on
00:21:35.400 and that was disturbing
00:21:36.280 some of the residents.
00:21:38.060 Well, there was an injunction
00:21:39.020 that was obtained
00:21:39.840 and for the most part
00:21:41.080 there was compliance
00:21:41.920 with that injunction.
00:21:43.760 So the Freedom Convoy
00:21:45.120 can't be faulted
00:21:46.140 for, in a general sense,
00:21:48.820 being responsible for that.
00:21:51.060 There was no violence.
00:21:53.300 There was no harassment
00:21:54.880 as some allegations had made.
00:21:57.020 And so it was ostensibly
00:21:58.820 a peaceful protest
00:21:59.860 and that's one reality.
00:22:02.400 And then the other reality
00:22:03.660 that some are saying
00:22:05.340 is that it was a lockdown,
00:22:06.560 an occupation,
00:22:07.280 a blockade,
00:22:08.800 that it was nonstop honking
00:22:10.520 into the night,
00:22:11.680 that it was roads
00:22:12.860 were shut down,
00:22:13.580 that the city was paralyzed,
00:22:15.040 businesses had to close.
00:22:16.780 And this is the narrative
00:22:18.860 that the Crown Attorney's Office
00:22:20.240 is relying on
00:22:21.480 at the bail stage
00:22:23.120 and they ultimately
00:22:24.680 will be continuing that
00:22:26.000 when these matters
00:22:26.660 go to trial.
00:22:27.920 The reality is, though,
00:22:29.500 that when the matters
00:22:30.220 go to trial,
00:22:31.260 they'll have to come
00:22:31.960 with the receipts.
00:22:33.060 They'll have to actually
00:22:33.860 put evidence
00:22:34.560 of these things up.
00:22:35.760 And that's where I think
00:22:36.760 their case is going
00:22:37.520 to be problematic
00:22:38.260 because at the bail stage,
00:22:40.300 the Crown can make
00:22:41.080 these allegations
00:22:41.920 based on an incomplete record
00:22:45.080 and not based on evidence
00:22:46.680 that's tested
00:22:47.380 in a traditional sense
00:22:49.100 through cross-examination,
00:22:51.320 through alternative evidence,
00:22:53.140 through a close look
00:22:54.860 at the evidence.
00:22:55.700 And so once the matters
00:22:56.740 go to trial,
00:22:58.200 this alternate narrative
00:22:59.780 that the Crown prosecutor
00:23:01.360 is using to base
00:23:02.360 its decisions
00:23:03.140 to aggressively pursue
00:23:04.760 detention orders,
00:23:06.440 to aggressively prosecute
00:23:08.120 people who were arrested
00:23:09.220 who chose to remain
00:23:10.280 in the city of Ottawa
00:23:12.180 contrary to what the police
00:23:14.100 told them to do.
00:23:15.880 That narrative is why this is,
00:23:18.600 you've described it as madness,
00:23:19.920 but it's that narrative
00:23:20.680 that is motivating them
00:23:21.820 to prosecute this
00:23:22.900 in the manner
00:23:23.660 that they're doing.
00:23:25.120 And when the time comes
00:23:26.180 that they have to put forward
00:23:27.540 evidence as to this narrative,
00:23:29.980 I think that's where
00:23:30.760 they're going to run
00:23:31.220 into some difficulty.
00:23:32.620 Well, I hope you're right,
00:23:33.660 but I don't know
00:23:34.920 if Randy Hillier
00:23:35.500 can get a fair trial in Ottawa.
00:23:37.240 I mean, we saw
00:23:37.900 what happened to Tamara Litch.
00:23:39.000 I think it was 18 days in jail.
00:23:41.500 You know, I'm sure
00:23:42.200 it was a coincidence
00:23:43.080 that the first judge
00:23:44.040 was a Liberal Party candidate
00:23:45.780 in a previous election.
00:23:48.320 Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
00:23:50.180 It's like one of those crimes
00:23:52.680 where it's so notorious
00:23:55.480 before trial
00:23:56.960 that you can't get
00:23:57.760 a fair hearing
00:23:58.400 and they take it
00:23:59.000 out of the jurisdiction.
00:23:59.960 They take it to another city
00:24:01.020 sometimes even
00:24:02.020 in another province
00:24:02.820 to get a man
00:24:03.660 a fair trial.
00:24:04.400 And I don't think
00:24:05.340 Randy Hillier
00:24:05.940 can get a fair trial
00:24:07.440 in the city of Ottawa.
00:24:08.180 I don't think any trucker can.
00:24:09.900 I don't think
00:24:10.260 because I think
00:24:10.940 there is that madness
00:24:11.860 and I think the judges
00:24:13.340 are deeply part of it.
00:24:14.240 I'm impressed
00:24:14.720 that you got Randy
00:24:15.440 out of jail at all.
00:24:17.040 When is the next hearing?
00:24:18.260 I mean, you say
00:24:18.760 you're contemplating
00:24:19.500 a possible appeal
00:24:20.840 or a review of the bail.
00:24:23.340 Is there a scheduled date
00:24:24.700 for an actual
00:24:25.260 substantive hearing
00:24:26.360 on things
00:24:27.200 or a first appearance
00:24:28.080 or what's next?
00:24:29.820 There's a first appearance
00:24:30.760 after release
00:24:31.800 which is on May the 4th
00:24:33.220 and so between now
00:24:34.180 and then
00:24:34.600 is a chance for me
00:24:35.740 to get more disclosure
00:24:37.000 and there's going to be
00:24:37.640 a lot of disclosure
00:24:38.500 in Randy Hillier's case
00:24:39.740 compared to the typical
00:24:41.320 trucker case
00:24:42.060 because the central
00:24:43.860 allegation against Randy
00:24:45.480 was this claim
00:24:46.360 that he had
00:24:47.340 somehow encouraged
00:24:48.520 people to jam up
00:24:49.500 the 911 lines
00:24:50.480 despite he never
00:24:51.380 made reference
00:24:52.380 to 911
00:24:52.920 and his intention
00:24:55.400 as he may testify to
00:24:56.920 was not to have
00:24:59.320 911 jammed up
00:25:00.680 but there are going
00:25:01.200 to be phone calls
00:25:02.080 and recordings
00:25:02.720 of those phone calls
00:25:03.780 that need to be disclosed.
00:25:05.360 There's video evidence
00:25:06.140 that needs to be disclosed.
00:25:07.900 Eventually
00:25:08.260 when all this
00:25:08.880 makes its way
00:25:09.600 to my office
00:25:10.520 I'll have a chance
00:25:11.560 to review that
00:25:12.540 and either before
00:25:13.680 the 4th of May
00:25:14.460 or shortly thereafter
00:25:15.540 I'll be able to discuss
00:25:16.800 with the Crown Prosecutor
00:25:18.860 whoever that may be
00:25:19.880 and coming back
00:25:20.640 to your earlier point Ezra
00:25:21.920 I mean one thing
00:25:23.140 we know about Randy Hillier
00:25:24.320 is a lot of people
00:25:26.000 like Randy Hillier
00:25:27.300 and a lot of people
00:25:28.300 don't like Randy Hillier
00:25:29.780 so that's
00:25:30.500 you take those
00:25:31.540 two different groups
00:25:32.200 and you have a significant
00:25:33.240 majority of the population
00:25:35.160 I would suggest
00:25:36.040 that has very strong opinions
00:25:37.720 on Randy Hillier
00:25:39.040 and there may be
00:25:40.260 there may be a question
00:25:41.260 as to whether or not
00:25:42.240 it should be an outside
00:25:43.060 prosecutor
00:25:43.720 or an outside judge
00:25:44.760 and these are questions
00:25:45.960 which I have not studied
00:25:47.700 closely enough
00:25:48.640 to be able to make
00:25:49.460 any broad claims
00:25:51.760 on the law
00:25:52.320 or advise Randy yet
00:25:54.300 but these are things
00:25:55.160 we're going to be
00:25:55.580 looking at for sure
00:25:56.540 you know what
00:25:57.920 I accept that
00:25:59.060 politicians can commit
00:26:00.460 offenses
00:26:00.880 and they should be prosecuted
00:26:01.940 we don't believe
00:26:02.560 in immunity
00:26:03.460 for politicians
00:26:04.240 I just can't help
00:26:06.220 note
00:26:06.700 the despair
00:26:07.640 the difference
00:26:08.580 between
00:26:09.180 oh let's say
00:26:10.400 Trudeau
00:26:10.840 and his interference
00:26:11.600 in the
00:26:12.560 SNC-Lavalin
00:26:14.300 corruption case
00:26:15.120 which was sustained
00:26:16.560 and you had
00:26:17.140 former attorneys general
00:26:18.700 across the country
00:26:20.020 signing letters
00:26:21.160 to the RCMP
00:26:22.040 saying
00:26:22.480 where are the charges
00:26:24.040 such blatant
00:26:25.800 you know
00:26:27.980 at least it begged
00:26:29.080 an investigation
00:26:29.740 versus
00:26:30.440 dropping the hammer
00:26:32.260 on a backbench
00:26:34.580 MPP
00:26:35.300 who's just a noisy
00:26:36.220 advocate for freedom
00:26:37.200 and I have to say
00:26:38.540 while I'm not
00:26:40.140 prejudging the evidence
00:26:41.120 I haven't seen it
00:26:42.020 it sure feels like
00:26:43.260 a political prisoner
00:26:44.020 I mean especially
00:26:44.740 in the wake
00:26:45.380 of Trudeau's
00:26:46.520 seizing bank accounts
00:26:47.760 of his
00:26:48.140 pointless invocation
00:26:49.940 of the emergencies
00:26:50.800 act
00:26:51.300 of the excessive
00:26:52.400 policing
00:26:52.840 one of our reporters
00:26:53.680 was shot in the leg
00:26:54.740 by an Ottawa police
00:26:56.120 or RCMP
00:26:56.900 I just feel like
00:26:58.040 Canada's really
00:26:58.660 slipping away
00:26:59.680 on the civil liberties
00:27:00.860 file
00:27:01.180 your job obviously
00:27:02.780 is to focus
00:27:03.440 like a laser
00:27:04.140 on Randy's case
00:27:05.140 and it sounds like
00:27:05.960 you're doing
00:27:06.280 a good job
00:27:06.820 of that
00:27:07.160 do you have any
00:27:07.960 wider political
00:27:08.900 comments
00:27:09.380 about the fact
00:27:10.580 that Canada
00:27:11.200 is sort of
00:27:12.700 you know
00:27:13.420 if we're not
00:27:14.320 shutting down
00:27:14.960 TV stations
00:27:15.880 because we call
00:27:17.420 them propaganda
00:27:18.020 or if we're not
00:27:19.440 deploying a form
00:27:20.620 of martial law
00:27:21.440 or seizing bank
00:27:22.480 accounts
00:27:22.860 we're arresting
00:27:23.920 oppositions
00:27:24.520 or conservative
00:27:25.120 politicians
00:27:25.640 it just really
00:27:26.620 feels like
00:27:27.900 we're not
00:27:28.300 fully free
00:27:29.420 I guess my
00:27:31.420 answer to that
00:27:32.080 Ezra is
00:27:32.900 is the same
00:27:34.460 in large regards
00:27:35.980 as I've said
00:27:36.480 to other questions
00:27:37.300 this is in many
00:27:38.780 ways a normal
00:27:39.800 day at the office
00:27:40.540 for me
00:27:41.000 is that standing
00:27:42.200 up for individual
00:27:43.100 rights and freedoms
00:27:44.100 is something I do
00:27:45.260 in every single
00:27:46.060 case
00:27:46.500 you see these
00:27:47.560 in impaired
00:27:47.980 driving cases
00:27:48.840 we see this
00:27:49.680 in cases
00:27:50.100 where the police
00:27:50.640 interrogate somebody
00:27:51.640 and engage in
00:27:52.780 methods that
00:27:53.460 trample on their
00:27:54.420 rights
00:27:54.780 and so yes
00:27:55.900 there is certainly
00:27:56.580 a political element
00:27:57.580 to the
00:27:58.500 to the incidences
00:27:59.680 that led
00:28:00.300 to the arrests
00:28:01.180 on February 18th
00:28:02.320 and 19th
00:28:03.060 there's no doubt
00:28:03.960 about that
00:28:04.600 but the question
00:28:05.680 is we have a
00:28:06.480 charter of rights
00:28:07.120 and freedoms
00:28:07.680 that guarantees
00:28:08.520 certain rights
00:28:09.240 freedom of assembly
00:28:10.140 freedom of peaceful
00:28:11.420 assembly
00:28:11.860 freedom of speech
00:28:12.900 and this case
00:28:14.840 is just another
00:28:15.580 iteration
00:28:16.160 of a case
00:28:17.320 where the government
00:28:18.060 is overreaching
00:28:20.160 and seeking
00:28:21.400 to prosecute
00:28:22.300 somebody in
00:28:22.920 violation of
00:28:23.640 those constitutional
00:28:24.400 rights
00:28:24.760 and so what
00:28:25.560 I'm doing
00:28:25.900 in this case
00:28:26.520 is in many
00:28:27.260 ways the same
00:28:28.120 as what I
00:28:28.540 would do
00:28:28.800 in a vast
00:28:29.420 number of
00:28:29.760 other cases
00:28:30.340 that I argue
00:28:31.300 it's standing
00:28:31.800 up for individual
00:28:32.520 rights and liberties
00:28:33.440 well there you
00:28:34.780 have it
00:28:35.100 we like to see
00:28:35.800 it thanks for
00:28:36.400 fighting for freedom
00:28:37.240 and fighting for
00:28:37.840 Randy
00:28:38.080 David Amber
00:28:39.040 keep up the
00:28:39.960 great work
00:28:40.420 thank you Ezra
00:28:41.840 all right
00:28:42.540 stay with us
00:28:43.640 before I have
00:28:44.360 hey welcome back
00:28:57.280 your viewer
00:28:58.220 MailBearFree200
00:28:59.260 says Tamara's
00:29:00.700 bail conditions
00:29:01.720 are what all of
00:29:03.400 us Canadians
00:29:03.900 will be under
00:29:04.580 once the
00:29:05.460 internet censorship
00:29:06.500 bill gets passed
00:29:07.840 you know what
00:29:10.260 that's that
00:29:11.160 sounds like a
00:29:11.780 pretty dark
00:29:12.420 prophecy but
00:29:13.220 I think that's
00:29:14.200 the direction
00:29:14.560 it's going
00:29:14.940 and like I
00:29:15.360 say there
00:29:16.340 hasn't been
00:29:16.860 any blockage
00:29:17.720 yet I mean
00:29:18.180 the United
00:29:18.540 States as I
00:29:19.360 point out to
00:29:19.860 anyone who
00:29:20.220 listen very
00:29:21.880 quickly the
00:29:22.420 Supreme Court
00:29:22.940 weighed in
00:29:23.500 on some
00:29:24.020 lockdowns and
00:29:25.020 I read the
00:29:25.780 cases they're
00:29:26.220 very succinct
00:29:26.920 very short
00:29:27.540 unlike our
00:29:28.060 Canadian
00:29:28.400 rulings
00:29:28.900 beautifully
00:29:30.900 written there
00:29:32.120 was one case
00:29:32.560 out of
00:29:32.760 California it
00:29:33.540 was a
00:29:33.780 lockdown order
00:29:34.420 very easy to
00:29:35.720 find Gavin
00:29:36.180 Newsom is
00:29:37.440 named in
00:29:37.920 it
00:29:38.060 he brought
00:29:40.320 in some
00:29:40.620 lockdowns
00:29:41.280 that applied
00:29:42.620 to singing
00:29:43.520 in churches
00:29:44.220 but not
00:29:45.320 singing in
00:29:45.900 Hollywood talent
00:29:46.800 shows like
00:29:47.440 I don't know
00:29:48.140 American Isle
00:29:48.660 if that's still
00:29:49.180 on and the
00:29:51.160 judges ruled
00:29:51.940 that you can't
00:29:53.480 ban singing
00:29:54.080 in churches
00:29:54.640 but allow it
00:29:55.640 in a Hollywood
00:29:57.080 production so
00:29:58.200 they were striking
00:29:58.880 down these
00:29:59.420 lockdowns and
00:30:00.080 they had the
00:30:01.000 same thing in
00:30:01.660 Massachusetts
00:30:02.260 and the Supreme
00:30:03.460 Court got
00:30:03.900 involved early
00:30:04.680 and often
00:30:05.500 and it
00:30:06.120 wasn't shy
00:30:06.660 of striking
00:30:07.020 things down
00:30:07.680 in Canada
00:30:10.300 we had the
00:30:10.800 same exemptions
00:30:11.800 I remember
00:30:12.400 when the
00:30:13.320 bachelor rented
00:30:14.140 out the
00:30:14.520 Jasper Park
00:30:15.180 Lodge in
00:30:15.840 Alberta
00:30:16.220 and they
00:30:17.240 were having
00:30:17.520 hundreds of
00:30:18.600 people
00:30:19.200 breaking the
00:30:21.980 six foot
00:30:22.500 separation rule
00:30:23.380 let me put it
00:30:23.920 that way
00:30:24.380 and that was
00:30:25.480 perfectly fine
00:30:26.180 while Pastor
00:30:27.000 Arthur Pavlovsky
00:30:28.000 was in jail
00:30:28.760 for opening
00:30:29.860 his church
00:30:30.440 see if we
00:30:32.200 if we had
00:30:32.900 an American
00:30:33.380 the American
00:30:33.800 Supreme Court
00:30:34.440 that would
00:30:35.160 have been
00:30:35.360 struck down
00:30:35.960 not a single
00:30:37.400 important Canadian
00:30:38.540 lockdown provision
00:30:39.480 has been struck
00:30:40.080 down by the
00:30:40.460 courts
00:30:40.620 not one
00:30:41.260 how free
00:30:42.140 are we
00:30:42.840 Les Bialniak
00:30:46.960 said we elect
00:30:48.660 people to uphold
00:30:49.240 the Constitution
00:30:49.680 first
00:30:50.360 then uphold
00:30:51.360 the legal laws
00:30:52.080 of the land
00:30:52.600 that were voted
00:30:53.260 for by our
00:30:54.540 representatives
00:30:55.160 when will a
00:30:56.240 politician have
00:30:56.880 the manhood
00:30:57.560 to prosecute
00:30:58.660 politicians
00:30:59.180 who have
00:31:00.480 broken the
00:31:00.940 law
00:31:01.140 sadly the
00:31:01.720 courts are
00:31:02.280 appointed
00:31:02.760 not voted
00:31:03.700 on by the
00:31:04.180 people
00:31:04.420 I'm not sure
00:31:06.560 if I support
00:31:07.260 voting for
00:31:08.600 judges
00:31:09.020 I don't think
00:31:10.080 I do
00:31:10.480 I'll have to
00:31:11.440 think about
00:31:11.780 that some
00:31:12.240 more
00:31:12.520 and we
00:31:15.060 don't want
00:31:15.340 to criminalize
00:31:16.460 differences of
00:31:17.420 political opinion
00:31:18.040 but we want
00:31:20.040 to strike down
00:31:20.920 laws or
00:31:21.640 policies or
00:31:22.320 government
00:31:22.560 programs that
00:31:23.160 are unconstitutional
00:31:23.920 that has not
00:31:24.900 happened as I
00:31:25.460 just outlined
00:31:26.120 I think it is
00:31:28.140 outrageous that
00:31:28.880 Justin Trudeau
00:31:29.400 has broken the
00:31:29.920 conflict of
00:31:30.380 interest act
00:31:30.820 more than
00:31:31.120 any other
00:31:31.520 prime minister
00:31:33.000 in history
00:31:33.360 in fact more
00:31:33.820 than all others
00:31:34.320 combined
00:31:34.820 and what does
00:31:35.780 he get a
00:31:36.060 $500 fine
00:31:36.960 for that
00:31:37.480 I think that
00:31:38.740 more and more
00:31:39.280 the courts
00:31:39.740 and prosecutors
00:31:40.240 and police
00:31:40.640 are being
00:31:41.160 politicized
00:31:41.980 I don't think
00:31:43.000 electing judges
00:31:43.780 is the answer
00:31:44.420 though
00:31:44.680 someone with
00:31:46.520 the nickname
00:31:46.960 mocking shout
00:31:47.720 says about
00:31:48.840 my interview
00:31:49.600 with Keith
00:31:50.240 Wilson
00:31:50.560 and seizing
00:31:52.400 bank accounts
00:31:52.960 good lord
00:31:54.100 anyone who has
00:31:55.000 any sort of
00:31:55.780 respect for the
00:31:56.300 concept of privacy
00:31:57.160 should be enraged
00:31:58.740 at this
00:31:59.320 well privacy
00:32:00.780 is part of it
00:32:01.580 but also
00:32:02.260 property rights
00:32:03.260 and due process
00:32:04.400 and my god
00:32:05.720 the police
00:32:06.380 literally just
00:32:07.220 read a news
00:32:08.740 story and said
00:32:09.500 everyone in this
00:32:10.160 news story
00:32:10.640 sees their bank
00:32:11.440 accounts
00:32:11.840 everything's wrong
00:32:13.300 with that
00:32:13.800 it's troubling
00:32:17.140 times
00:32:17.500 and I
00:32:17.860 in some ways
00:32:19.900 it feels like
00:32:20.540 things are
00:32:20.940 loosening up
00:32:21.720 mask mandates
00:32:22.540 are dropped
00:32:22.920 in most parts
00:32:23.700 of the country
00:32:24.300 vaccine passports
00:32:26.460 are dropped
00:32:26.840 in most parts
00:32:27.320 of the country
00:32:27.580 but remember
00:32:28.320 there's still
00:32:29.140 a vaccine
00:32:29.580 requirement
00:32:30.000 to leave
00:32:30.360 the country
00:32:30.740 to get on
00:32:31.140 a plane
00:32:31.400 to take
00:32:31.720 a train
00:32:31.980 to take
00:32:32.260 a ferry
00:32:32.540 boat
00:32:32.740 people are
00:32:33.680 still being
00:32:33.980 fired
00:32:34.380 for not
00:32:34.760 being
00:32:34.920 vaxxed
00:32:35.380 so it's
00:32:36.280 still terrible
00:32:36.800 but don't
00:32:39.540 think for a
00:32:39.980 second they
00:32:40.320 won't bring
00:32:40.660 it all back
00:32:41.140 in if they
00:32:41.660 come up
00:32:42.600 with the
00:32:43.360 omega wave
00:32:45.760 or whatever
00:32:46.400 the crisis
00:32:47.420 of the moment
00:32:47.940 is and
00:32:48.320 unfortunately
00:32:48.760 I feel like
00:32:49.320 they've trained
00:32:49.780 the population
00:32:50.500 like Pavlov's
00:32:51.880 dog to
00:32:52.400 respond to them
00:32:53.840 let me leave
00:32:56.840 you with our
00:32:57.400 video of the
00:32:57.780 day by
00:32:58.060 David Menzies
00:32:58.820 big cheers
00:33:00.500 for defunding
00:33:01.440 the CBC
00:33:02.120 at a Pierre
00:33:02.680 Polyev event
00:33:03.380 in Toronto
00:33:03.760 I find this
00:33:04.420 pretty hopeful
00:33:05.520 I'll leave you
00:33:06.000 with this
00:33:06.420 to cheer you
00:33:07.340 up a bit
00:33:07.860 until tomorrow
00:33:08.900 on behalf of
00:33:09.460 all of us
00:33:09.800 here at Rebel
00:33:10.240 World Headquarters
00:33:11.120 goodnight
00:33:12.220 keep fighting
00:33:13.040 for freedom
00:33:13.540 David Menzies
00:33:14.220 for Rebel
00:33:14.760 news here
00:33:15.580 in Toronto
00:33:16.120 well folks
00:33:16.660 I'm at the
00:33:17.420 rally in
00:33:18.400 Don Valley
00:33:19.100 it's Pierre
00:33:20.100 Polyev
00:33:20.740 he's dropped
00:33:21.260 by Toronto
00:33:21.940 as part of
00:33:22.920 his cross
00:33:23.840 country tour
00:33:24.600 and he just
00:33:25.780 wrapped up
00:33:26.260 speaking
00:33:26.660 he touched
00:33:27.080 on many
00:33:27.700 subjects
00:33:28.300 fiscal
00:33:29.120 responsibility
00:33:30.060 energy
00:33:31.120 independence
00:33:31.700 for Canada
00:33:32.440 striking out
00:33:34.080 against
00:33:34.420 wokeism
00:33:35.240 and censorship
00:33:36.520 and a lot
00:33:38.400 of he got
00:33:39.200 several standing
00:33:40.380 ovations from
00:33:41.260 people right now
00:33:42.180 in a lineup
00:33:42.780 to meet him
00:33:43.820 and actually
00:33:45.100 some people
00:33:45.640 are here
00:33:45.980 to buy
00:33:46.580 conservative
00:33:47.320 memberships
00:33:48.780 now we were
00:33:49.820 told by his
00:33:50.500 handlers
00:33:50.960 he is not
00:33:52.080 taking any
00:33:52.660 questions today
00:33:53.380 he has to leave
00:33:54.000 right away
00:33:54.500 to Hamilton
00:33:55.320 so we're just
00:33:56.140 going to speak
00:33:56.680 to some of
00:33:57.560 the folks
00:33:58.000 that sat
00:33:58.560 through the
00:33:59.000 speech
00:33:59.320 and see
00:34:00.460 what they
00:34:00.800 have to say
00:34:01.520 about the
00:34:02.940 man who
00:34:03.520 wants to be
00:34:04.300 our next
00:34:05.280 Prime Minister
00:34:06.160 dictatorships
00:34:08.080 with no
00:34:08.520 environmental
00:34:09.060 standards
00:34:09.640 whatsoever
00:34:10.220 are filling
00:34:10.700 their pockets
00:34:11.440 with money
00:34:12.240 that should
00:34:12.620 be used
00:34:12.960 for paychecks
00:34:13.720 for Canadian
00:34:14.360 workers
00:34:14.840 and when we
00:34:15.480 get the gatekeepers
00:34:16.300 out of the way
00:34:16.820 those workers
00:34:17.540 will have
00:34:17.920 those paychecks
00:34:18.660 what struck
00:34:22.280 you the most
00:34:22.840 about what he
00:34:23.320 had to say
00:34:23.740 today
00:34:24.040 I liked
00:34:24.740 everything he
00:34:25.340 had to say
00:34:25.960 I'm just
00:34:26.640 hoping that
00:34:27.260 you will
00:34:27.740 follow through
00:34:28.280 if elected
00:34:29.040 because we've
00:34:29.760 been waiting
00:34:30.100 for two years
00:34:30.700 to hear something
00:34:31.400 like this
00:34:32.040 freedom
00:34:32.500 it's all about
00:34:33.740 the freedom
00:34:34.220 freedom for
00:34:35.140 Canadians
00:34:35.580 freedom for
00:34:37.180 Canada
00:34:37.580 I mean
00:34:38.200 I've been here
00:34:39.860 30 years
00:34:40.600 and I've never
00:34:41.260 seen the
00:34:41.840 country
00:34:42.240 where it's
00:34:43.200 at now
00:34:43.620 I'm always
00:34:44.340 interested in
00:34:44.940 what Pierre
00:34:45.300 Polyevs is
00:34:46.400 out there to
00:34:47.140 say
00:34:47.300 he has a lot
00:34:47.820 of unique
00:34:48.200 messages out
00:34:49.080 there
00:34:49.220 but I find
00:34:49.840 he focuses
00:34:50.360 on the
00:34:51.060 economic
00:34:51.640 perspective
00:34:52.220 when there
00:34:53.860 is the
00:34:54.380 left out
00:34:54.820 dimension
00:34:55.640 of the
00:34:56.320 social aspect
00:34:57.100 of what
00:34:57.780 we're about
00:34:58.360 to face
00:34:58.740 having a
00:34:59.320 leader
00:34:59.560 who actually
00:35:00.840 stands for
00:35:01.400 the people
00:35:01.800 and gives
00:35:02.560 people the
00:35:03.000 democracy
00:35:03.440 rights
00:35:03.940 and power
00:35:05.220 as well
00:35:05.660 we work
00:35:06.480 together as a
00:35:07.000 team
00:35:07.180 not just
00:35:07.780 you know
00:35:08.460 we had
00:35:08.960 a lot of
00:35:09.400 problems with
00:35:09.820 Justin Trudeau
00:35:10.500 in the past
00:35:11.040 with you know
00:35:11.880 taking those
00:35:12.420 rights away
00:35:13.260 from the
00:35:13.540 people and
00:35:14.280 people having
00:35:15.080 power to
00:35:15.600 actually have
00:35:16.060 democracy
00:35:16.460 so that's
00:35:17.460 something that
00:35:17.720 really spoke
00:35:18.080 to me
00:35:18.280 and also
00:35:18.740 the inflation
00:35:19.780 that's going
00:35:20.540 on that's a
00:35:21.200 big thing for
00:35:21.760 me as well
00:35:22.280 many many
00:35:22.840 things actually
00:35:23.460 but what I
00:35:24.120 do believe
00:35:25.420 now is
00:35:26.280 he's reinstilled
00:35:27.700 my faith
00:35:28.460 in Canada
00:35:29.200 and it's a
00:35:29.660 faith which I've
00:35:30.100 lost
00:35:30.400 so
00:35:31.520 by regards
00:35:32.380 Rebel News
00:35:32.840 I appreciate
00:35:33.400 your guys'
00:35:33.920 effort too
00:35:34.280 and your honesty
00:35:34.780 on a lot
00:35:35.360 of subjects
00:35:35.900 of which
00:35:36.940 many governments
00:35:37.980 are not
00:35:38.480 truthful
00:35:39.160 or they hide
00:35:40.760 when I go to
00:35:41.340 work every
00:35:41.840 morning I see
00:35:42.780 people smoking
00:35:44.680 drugs on the
00:35:45.980 transit and I
00:35:47.280 go through
00:35:47.740 numerous delays
00:35:48.700 because someone's
00:35:49.900 going through
00:35:50.360 some kind of
00:35:51.060 crisis and
00:35:52.280 we see encampments
00:35:54.220 in our parks
00:35:55.060 and safe injection
00:35:56.140 sites where they
00:35:57.040 ought not to be
00:35:57.980 and I just
00:35:59.240 wonder what his
00:36:00.120 plan is versus
00:36:01.160 the Liberal
00:36:02.120 plan and their
00:36:03.500 progressive policies
00:36:04.600 that aren't
00:36:05.180 exactly serving
00:36:06.220 our communities
00:36:06.980 I liked what he
00:36:07.880 had to say
00:36:08.480 like I said
00:36:09.520 it resonated
00:36:10.000 with me
00:36:10.400 but I'm just
00:36:11.200 wondering is this
00:36:12.340 going to happen
00:36:12.880 is it going to
00:36:13.380 come true
00:36:13.760 is he going to
00:36:14.260 be able to
00:36:14.680 deliver all these
00:36:15.420 things that he
00:36:15.960 said I like the
00:36:16.660 idea of bringing
00:36:18.000 you know the
00:36:18.700 oils back here
00:36:19.480 the jobs back
00:36:20.160 here for Canadians
00:36:21.000 there's a lot of
00:36:22.020 things that he
00:36:22.420 said that I
00:36:22.840 really liked
00:36:23.480 now we just
00:36:24.800 got to wait
00:36:25.340 and see what
00:36:26.020 happens
00:36:26.360 so if a
00:36:27.400 bureaucrat sees
00:36:28.260 you say something
00:36:29.160 that they think
00:36:29.900 might lead to a
00:36:30.600 political outcome
00:36:31.340 that's not good
00:36:32.000 for them
00:36:32.500 they could put you
00:36:33.520 in jail for that
00:36:34.380 forget it
00:36:35.620 that is an attack
00:36:36.460 on our freedom
00:36:37.120 we live in the
00:36:39.100 free country here
00:36:40.020 we have the right
00:36:41.540 to decide what we
00:36:42.540 see and say
00:36:44.000 a Polyev government
00:36:45.440 will repeal the
00:36:46.540 anti-free speech
00:36:47.640 laws and allow
00:36:48.540 Canadians to think
00:36:49.560 of themselves
00:36:50.040 do you trust the
00:36:53.260 mainstream media to
00:36:54.300 give Pierre Polyev a
00:36:55.420 fair shake
00:36:55.940 no no I don't
00:36:58.160 no so I appreciate
00:36:59.300 your efforts in that
00:36:59.900 regards
00:37:00.340 in fact there was a
00:37:01.460 story in the star
00:37:02.180 today quoting
00:37:03.660 anonymously of course
00:37:05.040 a senior conservative
00:37:06.120 official who was
00:37:07.320 concerned about
00:37:08.280 Mr. Polyev delivering
00:37:11.160 juvenile political
00:37:12.780 theater did you see
00:37:13.880 anything today that
00:37:14.760 was juvenile
00:37:15.240 if anything
00:37:16.040 I'm not theatrical
00:37:17.960 at all
00:37:18.340 and I was
00:37:19.280 motivated by his
00:37:20.040 speech I think
00:37:20.380 he's honest I
00:37:21.040 think he's an
00:37:21.620 actual honest
00:37:22.980 representation of
00:37:23.960 himself and I'm
00:37:25.320 going to vote for
00:37:25.840 him and I'm
00:37:26.340 actually going to
00:37:26.740 push my peers and
00:37:27.580 friends to at least
00:37:29.280 consider voting for
00:37:30.060 him I hope he gets
00:37:30.640 in matter of fact I'm
00:37:31.520 going to go buy a
00:37:31.960 membership right now
00:37:32.520 for myself and my
00:37:33.060 wife
00:37:33.320 thank you very much
00:37:34.940 sir
00:37:35.160 yes and no
00:37:36.320 no
00:37:37.020 no because I feel
00:37:38.800 like a lot of the
00:37:39.500 mainstream media is
00:37:40.440 funded by you know
00:37:41.460 liberals and you know
00:37:42.860 those follies and
00:37:43.740 stuff like that so
00:37:44.760 and they're just
00:37:45.360 repressing us and we
00:37:46.420 need to stand up
00:37:47.240 against them and we
00:37:48.720 need to demand our
00:37:49.680 freedom it's ours and
00:37:51.480 they can't take it
00:37:52.240 did you see anything
00:37:53.160 that was juvenile
00:37:54.560 political theater today
00:37:55.600 absolutely not I
00:37:56.580 thought he did a
00:37:57.220 great job he gave a
00:37:58.480 great speech he
00:37:59.220 touched on a lot of
00:38:00.180 subjects that
00:38:00.860 everybody's been
00:38:01.900 wanting to hear like
00:38:03.160 the things that we
00:38:03.860 are concerned about
00:38:04.560 every single Canadian
00:38:05.480 citizen should be
00:38:06.320 concerned about these
00:38:07.480 are the things that
00:38:08.160 are important to all
00:38:08.840 of us
00:38:09.240 no he's pretty honest I
00:38:10.660 have to say like he
00:38:11.820 just seems like a
00:38:12.560 real well-rounded man
00:38:14.560 who's very honest and
00:38:15.620 wants for the people
00:38:16.420 is that what you
00:38:17.380 witness today juvenile
00:38:18.400 political theater not
00:38:19.680 at all I saw up here
00:38:20.840 uniting people bringing
00:38:22.420 people together and
00:38:23.640 you can see well the
00:38:25.300 CBC is not going to
00:38:26.040 give them a fair shake
00:38:26.780 and neither are the
00:38:28.520 other media that's been
00:38:29.380 paid for by by Trudeau
00:38:31.720 they're bought and
00:38:34.120 paid for and they're
00:38:34.940 not going to support
00:38:35.580 the guy that's going to
00:38:36.400 bring unity to our
00:38:38.300 country
00:38:38.700 yeah he had quite a
00:38:39.900 line when he said oh
00:38:40.980 I just found a
00:38:41.620 billion dollars
00:38:42.260 defund the CBC I
00:38:43.640 thought the roof was
00:38:44.760 going to blow off the
00:38:45.720 the conference area
00:38:47.380 oh and I just found
00:38:48.340 another billion dollars
00:38:49.360 we're going to defund
00:38:50.180 the CBC
00:38:50.800 certainly he is saying
00:38:58.240 so many right things
00:38:59.640 but are you worried
00:39:01.500 man at all that we
00:39:03.020 saw the same thing with
00:39:04.180 Aaron O'Toole he said
00:39:05.440 he was a true blue
00:39:06.360 conservative once he
00:39:07.420 became leader he turned
00:39:08.940 into a red Tory do you
00:39:10.720 think Pierre is indeed
00:39:12.020 coming as advertised
00:39:13.180 yes I feel like he's
00:39:15.380 very educated and I
00:39:16.580 feel like he made his
00:39:17.680 you know well-rounded
00:39:19.500 standing in Parliament
00:39:20.580 over time even with the
00:39:22.380 pandemic even before
00:39:23.400 that I feel like he stays
00:39:25.320 true to his character
00:39:26.100 and true to the people
00:39:27.720 and what he says he
00:39:28.600 follows through for what
00:39:30.200 we've seen I watch a lot
00:39:31.280 of him in like Parliament
00:39:32.460 as well the House of
00:39:33.400 Commons and I feel like
00:39:34.700 he's a little stronger
00:39:35.620 than Aaron O'Toole in that
00:39:36.760 stance