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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I want to take you through a very interesting opinion poll

00:00:03.140 commissioned by the left-wing pollster called ECOS.

00:00:07.520 But they have an interesting observation.

00:00:10.760 People who are skeptical of vaccines are also skeptical of the Russia-Ukraine war.

00:00:17.120 Is it an attempt to smear anti-vaxxers as Putin's people?

00:00:22.380 Or does it go to something deeper in people's skepticism and how maybe we're all too gullible?

00:00:26.840 I'll take you through it at some length.

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00:00:50.700 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:56.780 You're listening to a Rebel News Podcast.

00:01:00.000 Tonight, a curious opinion poll shows an important divide in society.

00:01:11.920 Which side are you on?

00:01:13.280 It's March 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:15.660 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:21.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:25.600 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:31.460 I saw an opinion poll in the Toronto Star the other day.

00:01:40.320 It was meant, I'm sure, to embarrass people like me and maybe like you.

00:01:45.300 It was a sort of weaponized poll, I think.

00:01:48.560 But I don't mind it because I think there's some truth in it, just not in the way that maybe the star in the pollster meant it.

00:01:55.180 Conducted by a liberal polling firm named ECOS, run by Frank Graves.

00:01:59.880 The story is headlined, How Vaccination Status Might Predict Views on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine.

00:02:07.120 Huh.

00:02:07.720 New poll indicates that vaccine refusers are much more sympathetic to Russia.

00:02:15.180 Isn't that odd?

00:02:17.580 Huh.

00:02:17.780 You know, a few months ago, another poll taken by another liberal-linked polling company called Abacus.

00:02:26.420 I mean, are there any conservative polling companies?

00:02:28.600 I don't even know.

00:02:29.860 Abacus said that the typical vaccine-hesitant person in Canada was actually a 42-year-old mum in Ontario who votes liberal.

00:02:39.880 I'll come back to that Abacus poll later maybe, but let's focus on the new poll in the Star.

00:02:47.780 Unvaccinated Canadians are about 12 times more likely than those who received three doses to believe Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine was justified, according to a new survey by national polling firm ECOS.

00:03:01.400 Three doses?

00:03:03.460 That right away makes me want to make a joke, only three doses?

00:03:07.760 Because, of course, Pfizer's CEO is out pitching a fourth dose, did you know?

00:03:13.080 You've mentioned you are close to filing with the FDA for a fourth dose.

00:03:19.320 Tell us about where the latest on that stands, what the data show.

00:03:24.160 I think we are going to submit to FDA a significant package of data about the need for a fourth dose, and they need to make their own conclusions, of course.

00:03:33.820 And then CDC also to see that clearly there is a need in the in an environment of Omicron to boost the immune response.

00:03:43.120 I don't think that we would be a need in Delta.

00:03:45.880 I was thinking always that after the third dose, we will need annual revaccinations.

00:03:50.980 With Omicron, the situation is more challenging, so we may need the fourth dose.

00:03:55.340 But that's something that FDA needs to decide and the CDC needs to recommend.

00:03:59.880 The same is with every other country.

00:04:01.620 Many countries already started recommending a fourth dose, and we will see how the authorities here will think about it.

00:04:09.800 Did the data that you have suggest a fourth dose may be needed for everybody or perhaps just certain populations, the elderly or more vulnerable?

00:04:18.120 I think the data will show that the immune protection against Omicron is very good after three doses when it comes against hospitalization or deaths.

00:04:30.960 Not as good, but pretty good also against infections.

00:04:34.560 But hospitalization, this is very good, the third dose, but doesn't last long.

00:04:39.400 After three, four months, it starts waning.

00:04:42.580 That's Omicron, I agree.

00:04:43.860 And clearly, the risk when you have waning immune responses is higher for people that they have high AIDS, they are older or they have underlying conditions.

00:04:56.940 But the immune responses are waning for all.

00:05:00.300 So if I got him right, he's saying your vaccination dose only works for three or four months.

00:05:05.420 Guys, I'm not sure if that can be called a vaccine if you've got to take three or four shots of it every year.

00:05:11.440 But, hey, the CEO needs a new yacht.

00:05:14.240 Anyways, back to the story.

00:05:16.520 The poll found 26% of those who are identified as unvaccinated agreed the Russian invasion is justified, with another 35% not offering an opinion.

00:05:27.060 This compared to only 2% of surveyed Canadians who said they had three doses of the COVID-19 vaccine and who supported the attack, and 4% who offered no view.

00:05:43.140 At first glance, it's a strange question to ask, isn't it?

00:05:45.480 There is no connection.

00:05:47.200 I mean, why not do a poll correlating vaccination status with, I don't know, whether you prefer Star Wars or Star Trek better, something completely unconnected.

00:05:58.000 It's a non sequitur.

00:05:59.560 It doesn't follow.

00:06:00.340 Except it's immediately obvious what the political goal of the story and the poll is in the star, right?

00:06:08.080 Why are they doing this poll?

00:06:10.080 We got a glimpse of it when the truckers were in Ottawa and the media party let her rip.

00:06:14.280 I do ask that because, you know, given Canada's support of Ukraine in this current crisis with Russia, I don't know if it's far-fetched to ask, but there is concern that Russian actors could be continuing to fuel things as this protest grows, but perhaps even instigating it from the outset.

00:06:35.380 Well, again, I'm going to defer to our partners in the public safety, the trained officials and experts in that area.

00:06:44.620 These aren't real people, these truckers.

00:06:46.760 They aren't good Canadians who simply have a different opinion from the establishment.

00:06:50.880 These are bad-faith actors.

00:06:53.060 They might even be spies.

00:06:54.520 They're in service of a foreign leader.

00:06:56.260 I mean, I actually have this memory when I was a child.

00:07:00.380 I don't know why it stuck with me, but there was a former CBC journalist, their chief correspondent, actually, Knowlton Nash was his name, who was asked why he kept interviewing a Soviet spokesman.

00:07:14.440 I think it was this guy, Vladimir Posner.

00:07:16.960 Posner grew up in America, so he speaks perfect English and he understands American thinking and American culture.

00:07:23.600 He moved back to the Soviet Union, became one of communism's most effective propagandists in the West during the Cold War.

00:07:32.940 Anyhow, I remember as a young child, can you believe it?

00:07:37.000 Knowlton Nash was asked why he interviewed Posner, this propagandist, so much.

00:07:44.500 And this was during the Cold War, remember.

00:07:46.660 Nuclear, mutually assured destruction, proxy wars everywhere, from Vietnam to Afghanistan and Nicaragua.

00:07:53.600 Why was Knowlton Nash giving so much airtime and why was he so gentle with him, too?

00:08:00.460 Nash answered snidely, and I've remembered this since I was a child.

00:08:05.020 Well, maybe we wouldn't interview him so much if he hadn't had so much to say.

00:08:10.280 It was something like that.

00:08:11.060 We're interviewing because he has a lot to say.

00:08:14.000 That's not a reason.

00:08:14.820 That's not an excuse.

00:08:15.580 It's an insult to the questioner.

00:08:17.780 It's a laugh, really.

00:08:18.680 Every propagandist has a lot to say.

00:08:21.040 Endless amounts to say, actually.

00:08:23.100 Endless propaganda to normalize the Soviet dictatorship, to normalize in the West, to pretend that Soviet Russia was a paradise.

00:08:32.660 And that the free West was morally corrupt.

00:08:36.880 The CBC loved doing it.

00:08:39.220 So did Pierre Trudeau, of course, who visited the Soviet Union with his boys and declared Siberia the land of the future.

00:08:45.800 It's quite something to see that the same CBC that was in league with Russian propagandists is now calling everyone a Russian spy when they literally platformed a Russian spy.

00:08:59.780 Just incredible.

00:09:00.900 But back to the Red Star.

00:09:02.500 I mean, the Toronto Star.

00:09:05.020 ECOS President Frank Graves said vaccination status strongly predicts views on the war,

00:09:09.780 from seizing the property of Russian oligarchs to providing non-military aid to Ukraine.

00:09:14.960 In each case, a vast majority of vaccinated Canadians agreed with measures to help Ukraine and oppose Russia,

00:09:21.980 a view held by only a small minority of unvaccinated people.

00:09:26.920 Tor Star was granted access to results of the ECOS data that show a correlation between vaccination status and attitudes towards a host of political issues,

00:09:37.320 including the war in Ukraine.

00:09:39.420 Now, just a reminder who Frank Graves and ECOS are, in case you've forgotten.

00:09:43.700 He gets enormous grants, contracts, rather, polling business from the liberal government.

00:09:49.580 Always has.

00:09:52.580 He's a reminder of what he thinks of conservatives.

00:09:57.380 You know, a few years back, he denounced members of the Conservative Party as racist and homophobic.

00:10:03.140 He's not exactly neutral, which is something you would probably want in a pollster.

00:10:06.580 But not that he just hates conservatives.

00:10:12.160 He actually gave secret advice to the Liberal Party.

00:10:15.540 I mean, I guess I give advice to parties every day, but I do it publicly.

00:10:19.500 You know what I'm saying.

00:10:20.900 Frank Graves was giving private strategic consultations to the Liberal Party.

00:10:26.720 He's a player in the political game.

00:10:29.400 He's not a neutral observer.

00:10:30.460 So, always know that ECOS and Frank Graves are just liberal activists.

00:10:35.400 But still, let me tell you what these liberal activists claim in their poll.

00:10:41.700 Let me show you the chart, which I thought was pretty interesting.

00:10:44.700 You can see it on the screen here now.

00:10:46.140 Take a look.

00:10:47.180 Let's keep that up there for a little bit, and I'll read through it.

00:10:51.720 Look at the questions they asked.

00:10:54.480 Do you want tougher sanctions on Russia?

00:10:58.060 86% of the triple-vax people say yes.

00:11:00.640 Only 13% of unvaxed people do.

00:11:02.640 I wonder what the double-vax would say, or if they're considered unvaxed now.

00:11:07.620 Seize assets of the oligarchs.

00:11:09.300 85% of the vax say yes.

00:11:11.600 13% of the unvax.

00:11:12.760 That's quite a difference.

00:11:13.920 Cut off shipments, oil shipments from Russia.

00:11:17.800 Well, I'm unvaxed, and I agree that we should cut off oil from Russia,

00:11:21.700 replace it with ethical oil from the oil stands.

00:11:24.740 81% of vaccinated people do, too.

00:11:26.940 But how many of those people are opposed to pipelines from the oil stands instead?

00:11:31.100 I'm guessing most of them.

00:11:32.920 The next one is quite something.

00:11:34.360 52% of vaccinated people believe in giving fighter jets to Ukraine

00:11:39.660 compared to 15% of unvaxed people.

00:11:42.500 Now, that's not even a thing.

00:11:44.540 Canada has a few dozen CF-18 fighter jets.

00:11:47.520 We took delivery of the first ones in early 1983.

00:11:51.120 So they are almost 40 years old.

00:11:54.040 We bought a few used ones from Australia more recently

00:11:57.060 when they upgraded their air force to modern F-35.

00:12:00.220 So I'm not sure how they would do in a war against the Russian air force.

00:12:04.520 I don't know. Maybe they do okay.

00:12:05.380 But the Ukrainian air force does not fly F-18s.

00:12:09.800 They fly old Russian jets.

00:12:12.400 So they've never flown on CF-18s.

00:12:14.900 They've never trained on CF-18s.

00:12:16.520 The ground crews have never worked on CF-18s.

00:12:20.640 It would literally take years for Ukrainians to learn how to integrate a new jet

00:12:26.220 into their air force.

00:12:28.040 The whole thing is a weird hypothetical scenario.

00:12:31.860 It's impossible, really.

00:12:32.820 But still, 52% of vaxed takers are really excited about it.

00:12:36.700 Only 15% of unvaxed people are.

00:12:38.920 30% of vaxers actually want us to go to war in Ukraine against Russia.

00:12:45.540 And look at the next line.

00:12:46.520 52% of Canadians who are unvaxed say that Canada shouldn't do any of these things.

00:12:51.960 Only 2% of vaxed people say Canadians shouldn't do any of these things.

00:12:56.840 That actually is a stunning divide, isn't it?

00:13:00.380 Now, I note that the liberal pollster Frank Graves of the liberal polling firm ECOS

00:13:04.380 didn't seem to ask any non-belligerent options.

00:13:08.880 Like, would you think Canada should mediate peace talks?

00:13:13.580 Which other countries like Belarus and Turkey have done.

00:13:16.680 I think Israel is trying to do that.

00:13:18.240 So that would be a constructive thing that's not violent.

00:13:22.120 That's often how wars are ended with peace talks.

00:13:25.580 That wasn't an option that Frank Graves had put to people.

00:13:29.300 There was no humanitarian aid option.

00:13:32.440 Or even revving up our own oil science to displace Russian oil.

00:13:37.140 Not just their exports to Canada, but what if Canada exported oil and gas to the world?

00:13:42.760 Our imports from Russia are modest.

00:13:44.560 But if we could relieve Europe, especially Germany, from reliance on Russia,

00:13:48.560 that would be something we could really do to help.

00:13:50.720 It was a carefully selected list of options, all of which involved hostility towards Russia,

00:13:56.540 much of which was fantastical or unrealistic, like the jets part.

00:14:01.220 And most of which Trudeau himself would never do in any event, or would be pointless.

00:14:06.760 I mean, sure, we have sanctions on lots of Russian oligarchs.

00:14:11.240 I'm just not sure that any Russian oligarchs have ever put money in the Royal Bank or Scotiabank

00:14:18.180 or sailed their mega yachts up the St. Lawrence River.

00:14:22.080 I think it's a combination of wishful thinking and virtue signaling and demonizing an enemy,

00:14:27.820 who, by the way, may, in fact, be a demon.

00:14:31.640 But I just want to point out that what the options had in common here, they were all aggressive.

00:14:38.160 Whereas the one thing the anti-vaxxers agreed on is don't fight.

00:14:42.060 They're not saying they're pro-Putin.

00:14:44.140 They're just saying don't do all those hostile things,

00:14:47.280 especially the ones that might start World War III, because it's not our fight.

00:14:52.240 It's not pro-Putin. That's isolationist, you could call it.

00:14:55.060 By the way, I wonder what those same vaxxers and anti-vaxxers would say

00:14:59.260 about sanctions against Chinese oligarchs for a number of reasons,

00:15:04.220 from their crimes against humanity to their industrial espionage

00:15:08.360 to taking Canadians hostage to their role in the virus labs in Wuhan

00:15:12.040 to their concentration camps for Uyghurs.

00:15:14.360 Just curious.

00:15:15.400 Graves and the star says these unvaxxed people can't be correct.

00:15:22.240 He says they can't have a legitimate point of view.

00:15:25.220 He explains these answers by saying they're just dumb.

00:15:29.460 Let me quote.

00:15:31.280 The study concludes the results point to

00:15:35.220 the highly corrosive influences of disinformation.

00:15:39.680 This is definitely a new and bluntly insidious force

00:15:43.300 that is contributing to polarization and disinformation

00:15:46.060 and poor decision making, and it doesn't seem to be going away.

00:15:50.820 Things are getting worse, said Graves.

00:15:52.720 I don't think this is because those people had an ingrained sympathy

00:15:56.520 to the Russians.

00:15:57.780 They're reading this online.

00:15:59.820 They're consuming this from the same sources

00:16:02.120 that were giving them the anti-vaxx stuff.

00:16:04.880 Got it.

00:16:06.920 So anyone who disagrees with the Toronto Star is just stupid.

00:16:11.960 That's the only option.

00:16:15.060 Disinformation.

00:16:16.240 We're all too easily tricked.

00:16:19.220 Pfizer is pitching the fourth dose of a vaccine

00:16:21.900 that doesn't really vaccinate,

00:16:24.020 but you're still calling the skeptics?

00:16:26.720 The kooky ones?

00:16:28.180 All right.

00:16:32.120 The entire province of Quebec, may I remind you,

00:16:35.620 was put under a lengthy prison-style curfew

00:16:37.780 for health reasons.

00:16:40.200 The media and the government promoted it,

00:16:42.080 total cheerleading,

00:16:42.860 but it recently emerged that there was no medical basis

00:16:46.320 for a curfew, never has been in the history of mankind.

00:16:49.220 All the health experts who were asked

00:16:50.940 said there was no justification.

00:16:52.960 They told the public health officer this,

00:16:55.040 told them they couldn't back up his political curfew

00:16:58.540 with any medical reasons,

00:16:59.700 but they launched it anyways.

00:17:02.480 And you're saying the skeptics were the misinformed ones?

00:17:06.860 You know, yesterday we played a short fun clip

00:17:09.020 from me 10 years ago at an eco-protest.

00:17:12.180 I don't know if you saw that.

00:17:14.020 Where the protesters had no clue about anything.

00:17:16.100 They were just told to show up, so they did.

00:17:18.080 And they were handed their placards to carry.

00:17:19.940 They probably didn't even read it.

00:17:20.740 No clue.

00:17:21.280 That one gal who was there specifically to protest me,

00:17:24.540 but when I came up to her,

00:17:25.840 she didn't recognize me when I spoke with her,

00:17:28.180 that rent-a-mop professional protesters

00:17:29.920 do what they're told.

00:17:31.640 That is truly disinformation.

00:17:33.500 They don't know what they're doing.

00:17:35.920 But you go to any anti-vaccine mandate rally

00:17:39.100 in this country,

00:17:40.500 there's no one like that.

00:17:42.580 You ask someone,

00:17:44.120 why are you here?

00:17:45.380 They will talk your ear off for an hour.

00:17:48.760 They've read more studies,

00:17:50.280 watched more videos,

00:17:51.660 listened to different sources,

00:17:52.800 read more journalism than anyone.

00:17:56.040 But hey,

00:17:56.640 if it makes you feel better to call them

00:17:58.620 uninformed and stupid,

00:18:00.760 well, fill your boots.

00:18:01.680 You're the Toronto Star.

00:18:04.180 Unvaccinated Canadians are also more likely

00:18:06.240 to have a profound distrust of government,

00:18:09.080 science,

00:18:09.660 and professional health experts,

00:18:11.180 Graves said,

00:18:11.860 and are more likely to support the protest convoy

00:18:14.300 that occupied Ottawa for nearly a month.

00:18:17.100 Now that,

00:18:19.620 I think that's true.

00:18:22.160 Distrust of government.

00:18:23.180 Is there any institution

00:18:24.660 that has failed more in the past two years

00:18:27.500 than government?

00:18:28.900 Well, the media, of course,

00:18:30.340 but in Canada,

00:18:31.380 the media are government funded.

00:18:32.980 Science?

00:18:34.340 Well, sure,

00:18:35.060 science being the word that politicians

00:18:36.660 have stolen

00:18:37.500 to apply to their politics,

00:18:39.860 science has some sort of shield

00:18:41.100 against asking questions.

00:18:43.160 Science is about questions.

00:18:44.580 It comes from the Greek word to know,

00:18:46.740 to investigate,

00:18:47.720 to the scientific process,

00:18:50.140 experimenting.

00:18:51.500 There's no end in science, by the way.

00:18:53.360 There's no unquestionable thing in science.

00:18:55.520 If you can't question it,

00:18:56.560 it's not science anymore.

00:18:57.580 It's something else.

00:18:58.340 I don't know, politics,

00:18:59.380 ideology, faith, whatever.

00:19:03.000 Superstition.

00:19:03.700 Anthony Fauci is the worst.

00:19:05.900 He actually says

00:19:07.020 that criticizing him

00:19:09.220 is tantamount to criticizing science itself.

00:19:11.940 And that's so dangerous,

00:19:12.880 so stop doing it.

00:19:14.580 I mean,

00:19:15.300 anybody who's looking at this carefully

00:19:17.460 realizes that there's a distinct

00:19:20.180 anti-science flavor to this.

00:19:23.680 So if they get up and criticize science,

00:19:26.420 nobody's going to know

00:19:27.200 what they're talking about.

00:19:28.480 But if they get up

00:19:29.560 and really aim their bullets

00:19:31.420 at Tony Fauci,

00:19:32.580 well, people could recognize

00:19:33.540 there's a person there,

00:19:34.720 so it's easy to criticize.

00:19:36.860 But they're really criticizing science

00:19:38.680 because I represent science.

00:19:41.080 that's dangerous.

00:19:42.960 To me, that's more dangerous

00:19:44.720 than the slings and the arrows

00:19:46.700 that get thrown at me.

00:19:47.940 And if you damage science,

00:19:49.900 you are doing something

00:19:51.460 very detrimental to society

00:19:54.020 long after I leave.

00:19:55.900 Imagine saying you represent science.

00:19:59.740 You're its only interpreter on Earth.

00:20:02.340 That right there is anti-scientific,

00:20:04.220 unscientific,

00:20:04.900 but also imagine saying

00:20:06.140 that the scientific consensus

00:20:07.360 cannot withstand criticism.

00:20:08.840 I'll let the ghost of Galileo know that.

00:20:12.660 Back to the Toronto Star

00:20:13.600 and their ECOS poll.

00:20:15.420 Put aside the conclusions

00:20:17.020 they came to,

00:20:18.260 likely before they even did the poll.

00:20:20.240 Unvaxed people are dumb brutes

00:20:22.600 who aren't good like us.

00:20:24.320 Put aside their pathetic explanation

00:20:26.280 and their Russophobia.

00:20:28.000 But look at what I presume

00:20:29.480 is accurate data.

00:20:32.220 Unvaccinated people are skeptical

00:20:33.580 of government and government solutions,

00:20:35.660 and they're willing to stand up

00:20:37.660 against the crowd.

00:20:38.620 I think that's right.

00:20:41.100 Remember when we talked about this before,

00:20:45.140 August Landmesser,

00:20:46.060 the one German who wasn't Sieg Heil-ing.

00:20:48.960 Who amongst us would have been able

00:20:51.380 to fight the peer pressure

00:20:52.460 and not Sieg Heil,

00:20:54.040 go against the grain?

00:20:56.240 Precious few.

00:20:57.840 It's so hard.

00:20:58.620 It's so hard to go against the grain

00:21:00.040 at the best of times.

00:21:02.060 But now imagine if you're threatened

00:21:04.560 that you'll be fired from your job

00:21:06.240 or kicked out of university

00:21:07.820 in your last year

00:21:08.540 before you get your degree,

00:21:09.380 denied the right to go to a restaurant

00:21:11.100 or store,

00:21:11.740 denied the right to fly

00:21:14.200 or take a train.

00:21:15.180 Very hard.

00:21:17.740 So it is actually true,

00:21:19.420 I think,

00:21:19.840 if you are a person

00:21:21.220 who can resist all that,

00:21:23.680 all the propaganda,

00:21:24.940 all the peer pressure,

00:21:25.980 all the influencers

00:21:27.380 bought by tax dollars,

00:21:29.160 all the demonization,

00:21:30.380 if you can face that

00:21:32.300 without bending,

00:21:34.040 you're probably going to have

00:21:36.260 those same qualities

00:21:37.620 when you face other observations,

00:21:41.040 decisions,

00:21:41.620 other issues,

00:21:42.180 especially if the same people

00:21:43.940 who have abused you

00:21:45.220 and lied to you

00:21:46.340 for the past two years

00:21:47.220 are now asking you

00:21:48.520 to trust them

00:21:49.400 on the new thing,

00:21:50.380 whatever the new thing is.

00:21:51.840 I mean,

00:21:51.980 just a few weeks ago,

00:21:53.540 Justin Trudeau

00:21:54.160 and Chrystia Freeland

00:21:54.880 put our country

00:21:55.800 under a form of martial law.

00:21:57.620 They seized bank accounts

00:21:58.840 without legal process.

00:22:00.320 They put hundreds

00:22:01.380 of paramilitary-style police

00:22:03.060 in the streets.

00:22:04.800 They even shot

00:22:05.700 one of our reporters

00:22:06.360 in the leg.

00:22:08.120 And then,

00:22:09.020 we're supposed to

00:22:10.000 suddenly believe Trudeau

00:22:11.380 when he transforms himself

00:22:12.360 into a civil rights advocate,

00:22:13.880 criticizing Putin

00:22:15.100 for doing similar things.

00:22:17.980 Yeah.

00:22:18.740 Yeah.

00:22:19.040 Chrystia Freeland,

00:22:20.000 whose own grandfather

00:22:20.860 was a Nazi, by the way,

00:22:22.820 accused the truckers

00:22:24.120 of being Nazis.

00:22:25.640 So did Trudeau.

00:22:26.440 Trudeau and his new ally,

00:22:28.280 Jagmeet Singh.

00:22:29.720 The truckers weren't Nazis,

00:22:30.940 of course.

00:22:32.420 But we have learned

00:22:33.420 that Chrystia Freeland

00:22:34.220 and Trudeau and Singh

00:22:35.240 support the Azov Battalion,

00:22:37.400 who actually are Nazis.

00:22:39.360 They say so.

00:22:40.800 They actually have an army.

00:22:42.860 Sorry,

00:22:43.080 was I supposed to

00:22:44.220 forget them lying

00:22:45.800 and demonizing me

00:22:46.920 just a few weeks ago

00:22:48.160 and now embrace Trudeau

00:22:50.020 and company

00:22:50.560 as honest and fair dealers now?

00:22:52.420 I know how Trudeau

00:22:54.220 and his liberals

00:22:54.920 despise and disparage

00:22:56.800 the military.

00:22:57.580 We all know that.

00:22:59.340 Am I supposed

00:22:59.800 to suddenly believe

00:23:01.120 that they're serious

00:23:02.460 about anything military?

00:23:05.580 I was prepared

00:23:06.720 to be killed in action.

00:23:09.060 What I wasn't prepared

00:23:11.240 for, Mr. Prime Minister,

00:23:12.900 is Canada

00:23:13.560 turning its back on me.

00:23:20.540 So which veteran

00:23:22.040 was it that you

00:23:23.100 were talking about?

00:23:26.280 Why are we still

00:23:27.680 fighting against

00:23:29.300 certain veterans groups

00:23:30.820 in court?

00:23:31.820 Because they're asking

00:23:34.020 for more than we are

00:23:35.040 able to give right now.

00:23:36.120 I know that the

00:23:38.080 ECOS poll

00:23:38.720 didn't actually ask people

00:23:40.140 if they liked

00:23:41.140 or disliked Putin

00:23:42.060 or liked or disliked

00:23:43.880 the invasion

00:23:44.420 or maybe it did ask that

00:23:45.460 but it started

00:23:45.940 and published those parts.

00:23:47.180 I don't like Putin

00:23:48.180 and I don't like

00:23:49.160 the invasion.

00:23:50.760 I just don't think

00:23:51.740 we should go to war

00:23:52.700 over it here in Canada.

00:23:53.980 I suspect many other

00:23:54.960 skeptics feel the same way.

00:23:57.880 Let me leave you

00:23:58.860 with one fact.

00:24:00.700 It's from the

00:24:01.480 Organized Crime

00:24:02.620 and Corruption

00:24:03.500 Reporting Project.

00:24:04.820 They're a registered

00:24:06.340 American charity.

00:24:07.240 They're a globalist

00:24:07.980 NGO.

00:24:09.760 Here's a little bit

00:24:10.300 of information about them

00:24:11.500 if you're curious

00:24:12.160 as to who they are.

00:24:14.060 Just so you know,

00:24:15.080 they're funded

00:24:15.700 in large part

00:24:16.700 by the U.S. government,

00:24:18.220 the U.K. government

00:24:19.380 and also some

00:24:20.680 left-wing globalist groups

00:24:21.900 like the Rockefeller Brothers

00:24:23.120 and George Soros.

00:24:24.260 So it's all right there

00:24:25.840 on their website

00:24:26.480 just so you know

00:24:27.060 who they are.

00:24:27.500 This is not some

00:24:28.020 right-wing group.

00:24:29.460 And look at the

00:24:29.960 front-page story today.

00:24:31.960 You can see there

00:24:32.680 against Putin.

00:24:34.140 Sanctioning an oligarch

00:24:35.840 is not so easy.

00:24:37.680 Why the money trail

00:24:38.640 of Alisher Usmanov,

00:24:40.260 one of Russia's

00:24:41.140 wealthiest men,

00:24:41.900 is difficult to follow.

00:24:42.840 So you can see

00:24:43.400 they're very tough

00:24:44.560 on Russia.

00:24:46.360 But look at this story

00:24:47.060 from the same group

00:24:47.820 just a few months ago.

00:24:49.560 Just a few months ago.

00:24:52.420 Pandora papers reveal

00:24:53.640 offshore holdings

00:24:54.520 of Ukrainian president

00:24:55.580 and his inner circle.

00:24:57.980 Ukrainian President

00:24:58.920 Vladimir Zelensky

00:25:00.080 rode to power

00:25:00.940 on pledges

00:25:01.480 to clean up

00:25:01.920 the Eastern European country,

00:25:03.040 but the Pandora papers

00:25:04.740 reveal he

00:25:05.420 and his close circle

00:25:06.400 were the beneficiaries

00:25:07.980 of a network

00:25:08.800 of offshore companies

00:25:10.240 including some

00:25:11.280 that owned

00:25:11.700 expensive London property.

00:25:13.880 It's an extremely

00:25:14.740 detailed report

00:25:15.780 in a corruption

00:25:16.800 by Zelensky

00:25:17.540 and his oligarch friends.

00:25:19.920 What?

00:25:20.520 You thought only Putin

00:25:21.440 had corrupt

00:25:22.720 oligarch friends?

00:25:24.340 I'll read more.

00:25:25.080 The documents show

00:25:25.720 that Zelensky

00:25:26.360 and his partners

00:25:27.220 in a television production

00:25:28.380 company called

00:25:29.500 Kvartal 95

00:25:31.840 set up a network

00:25:33.760 of offshore firms

00:25:34.700 dating back

00:25:35.200 to at least 2012,

00:25:36.940 the year the company

00:25:37.880 began making

00:25:38.560 regular content

00:25:39.420 for TV stations

00:25:40.340 owned by

00:25:41.120 Ihor Kolomoisky,

00:25:43.360 an oligarch

00:25:44.200 dogged by allegations

00:25:45.320 of multi-billion dollar

00:25:46.840 fraud.

00:25:48.680 The offshores

00:25:49.320 were also used

00:25:50.220 by Zelensky Associates

00:25:51.480 to purchase

00:25:52.720 and own

00:25:53.580 three prime properties

00:25:54.960 in the center

00:25:55.560 of London.

00:25:56.000 I'm not going

00:25:58.460 to read more of it

00:25:59.220 and by the way

00:26:00.280 I'm not saying

00:26:01.080 being a kleptocrat

00:26:02.120 makes Zelensky

00:26:03.720 the wrong man

00:26:04.800 to lead Ukraine.

00:26:05.660 I don't know.

00:26:07.060 I don't know

00:26:07.780 if there are

00:26:08.180 any good guys

00:26:08.800 waiting in the wings

00:26:09.500 over there.

00:26:10.260 I just don't know.

00:26:11.240 But don't pretend

00:26:12.060 he's a saint.

00:26:13.540 Can you do me

00:26:13.980 that one favor?

00:26:16.360 Banning his

00:26:16.920 political rivals,

00:26:18.140 banning media

00:26:19.080 that doesn't parrot him.

00:26:20.360 I think if you're

00:26:21.320 a dissident,

00:26:22.400 if you're a skeptic,

00:26:24.480 if you realize

00:26:25.260 you've been lied to

00:26:26.120 and bullied

00:26:26.640 and gaslit

00:26:27.320 for two years,

00:26:28.980 you sort of know

00:26:30.100 what to look for now.

00:26:31.300 And if you see stories

00:26:32.900 like these

00:26:33.560 out of the corner

00:26:34.620 of your eye,

00:26:35.380 you don't brush them off

00:26:36.860 and then just repeat

00:26:37.640 what you heard

00:26:38.060 on the CBC.

00:26:39.120 Zelensky and Putin

00:26:40.020 are at war

00:26:40.740 with each other.

00:26:41.640 That's all I know

00:26:42.280 for sure.

00:26:43.320 I'll accept

00:26:44.000 that Putin

00:26:44.480 is atrocious,

00:26:45.700 though I can understand

00:26:46.640 why he maybe

00:26:47.400 doesn't want

00:26:47.980 U.S. military bases

00:26:49.520 right next to his borders

00:26:50.720 in the same way

00:26:52.060 that America's

00:26:53.000 Monroe Doctrine

00:26:53.860 made Americans

00:26:55.400 root out the missiles

00:26:56.980 that the Soviets

00:26:57.680 were putting

00:26:58.220 in their backyard

00:26:59.420 in Cuba.

00:27:01.360 On Friday,

00:27:02.800 day four of the crisis,

00:27:04.540 low-level reconnaissance

00:27:05.660 aircraft over Cuba

00:27:06.680 brought back

00:27:07.280 ominous new evidence.

00:27:09.500 The photos revealed

00:27:10.380 a site for a much

00:27:11.320 longer-range

00:27:12.300 Soviet missile

00:27:13.160 which could hit

00:27:14.040 98% of the U.S. mainland.

00:27:17.220 Soviet technicians

00:27:18.040 were working

00:27:18.680 round the clock,

00:27:20.040 pressing to get

00:27:20.780 the missiles operational

00:27:21.820 before they were discovered.

00:27:26.280 Faced with this

00:27:27.280 new evidence,

00:27:28.200 Kennedy felt

00:27:28.760 forced to act.

00:27:30.340 That day,

00:27:31.140 he secretly ordered

00:27:32.120 the armed forces

00:27:32.960 to prepare for action

00:27:34.200 and the Navy

00:27:35.300 to impose a blockade,

00:27:37.400 a line beyond

00:27:38.420 which ships carrying arms

00:27:39.860 would not be allowed.

00:27:41.420 It was a plan

00:27:42.260 McNamara had analyzed

00:27:43.580 with Roswell Gilpatrick.

00:27:45.500 I took the part

00:27:46.420 of the Soviet planner,

00:27:47.640 McNamara took the part

00:27:48.720 of the U.S. planner,

00:27:49.720 and we sort of,

00:27:51.840 we just war-gamed

00:27:52.940 each other there

00:27:53.820 on the back

00:27:54.640 of the envelope

00:27:55.240 at our lunch table

00:27:56.280 and what we essentially

00:28:00.440 came up with

00:28:02.040 was this idea

00:28:02.960 of a naval blockade

00:28:05.620 and downplaying it

00:28:09.860 so we weren't going to,

00:28:11.900 unless we had to,

00:28:12.980 seize or fire

00:28:14.360 Soviet vessels,

00:28:15.700 but to show

00:28:18.960 in as many ways

00:28:19.940 as we could,

00:28:20.500 including mobilizing forces,

00:28:22.720 moving forces around

00:28:23.900 overtly,

00:28:25.100 that we were

00:28:26.460 very serious

00:28:27.620 about this

00:28:28.620 installation of

00:28:30.920 medium-range missiles

00:28:32.040 in Cuba.

00:28:34.540 I accept that there

00:28:38.020 is a coronavirus,

00:28:39.180 obviously.

00:28:39.620 I don't deny

00:28:40.120 that it exists.

00:28:40.820 I wonder where

00:28:41.880 it came from

00:28:42.460 and I think

00:28:42.900 Fauci himself

00:28:44.100 is hiding

00:28:44.620 the facts from us.

00:28:45.980 I think he might

00:28:46.940 have been involved

00:28:47.460 with his gain-of-function

00:28:48.960 research in China.

00:28:50.740 We see now

00:28:51.580 that so many statistics

00:28:52.960 were inflated,

00:28:54.620 that the claims

00:28:55.260 that we're all at risk,

00:28:56.640 that really isn't true,

00:28:57.900 that only the old

00:28:59.480 and the fat

00:28:59.980 and the sick

00:29:00.500 are at risk.

00:29:02.440 There's so many things

00:29:03.940 from the unscientific

00:29:05.780 six-foot separation rule,

00:29:08.580 there's so many

00:29:09.020 pandemic profiteers.

00:29:10.880 I mean, look at

00:29:11.280 this story here.

00:29:12.480 It's incredible.

00:29:14.380 I see a liberal

00:29:15.100 cabinet minister's

00:29:16.140 husband getting in

00:29:17.400 on fat coronavirus

00:29:18.860 contracts.

00:29:19.720 I see the obedient courts.

00:29:21.420 I see colleges

00:29:22.300 of physicians

00:29:22.960 and surgeons

00:29:23.640 brutalizing any

00:29:25.000 dissident doctors

00:29:25.720 or nurses

00:29:26.140 and then claiming,

00:29:28.540 because they've

00:29:29.200 silenced those doctors,

00:29:30.400 that, oh,

00:29:30.920 medicine is unanimous

00:29:31.900 on this.

00:29:32.200 I see all that.

00:29:34.300 I see all that.

00:29:36.380 And so how can I

00:29:37.080 not see the same

00:29:38.160 things in the

00:29:39.520 Ukraine and Russia

00:29:40.220 story?

00:29:41.920 I don't deny

00:29:42.860 that there is a

00:29:43.440 coronavirus,

00:29:44.020 and I don't deny

00:29:44.640 that Vladimir Putin

00:29:45.400 is an authoritarian

00:29:46.080 ruler,

00:29:46.880 a former KGB agent,

00:29:48.560 an imperialist,

00:29:49.500 a warmonger.

00:29:50.180 I don't deny any of that.

00:29:51.600 But Frank Graves

00:29:52.480 and Ecos and the Star

00:29:53.680 didn't ask that,

00:29:55.220 did they?

00:29:56.660 They asked if we

00:29:57.700 were ready to go to war,

00:29:58.900 militarily or economically,

00:30:00.460 I mean.

00:30:01.420 If you're not,

00:30:04.080 you're probably

00:30:04.580 some Russian agent,

00:30:05.580 right?

00:30:06.420 No.

00:30:07.140 I don't think the

00:30:08.100 real story in this

00:30:09.240 poll is how dissident

00:30:10.280 and skeptical

00:30:11.040 unvaccinated people

00:30:12.140 are.

00:30:12.900 But I agree that

00:30:14.260 it is an important

00:30:15.140 fact.

00:30:16.940 I think the more

00:30:18.000 important fact,

00:30:19.320 and the scarier one

00:30:20.440 in this poll,

00:30:21.940 is that so many

00:30:23.380 people are not

00:30:24.020 skeptical,

00:30:25.880 is that so many

00:30:26.480 people are gullible

00:30:27.240 and peer-pressurable

00:30:29.600 and obedient

00:30:31.480 and just go along

00:30:33.300 to get along.

00:30:35.180 The same people

00:30:36.340 that triple-vaxxed

00:30:37.960 themselves,

00:30:38.720 that forced masks

00:30:39.720 onto their own

00:30:40.500 young kids,

00:30:41.280 that cheered along,

00:30:43.920 they're ready

00:30:45.320 and up to cheering

00:30:47.440 for the next thing,

00:30:48.160 whatever the next thing

00:30:48.860 is, whatever Trudeau

00:30:49.760 and social media

00:30:51.240 tells them to do

00:30:52.040 on any given day.

00:30:53.000 That's the news here.

00:30:55.840 Just how obedient

00:30:56.960 and compliant

00:30:57.700 so many Canadians

00:30:59.400 have become.

00:31:01.480 Stay with us

00:31:02.160 for more.

00:31:03.300 Well, yesterday

00:31:19.460 in our talk

00:31:20.000 with James Lindsay,

00:31:20.700 we talked about

00:31:21.240 how few people

00:31:22.040 in the creative

00:31:22.860 industries,

00:31:24.100 movies, comedy,

00:31:25.800 singing, music,

00:31:27.860 are conservative

00:31:29.000 or maybe at least

00:31:30.020 they're afraid

00:31:30.520 to reveal themselves.

00:31:31.600 Maybe that's,

00:31:32.280 maybe country music

00:31:33.220 is the one exception,

00:31:34.400 but even in sports,

00:31:35.960 wokeism is the way.

00:31:38.300 There is one

00:31:39.320 very bright exception

00:31:41.060 to that darkness

00:31:42.180 and it's the Babylon Bee,

00:31:44.980 which I have to say

00:31:45.780 is the funniest website

00:31:46.780 on the internet.

00:31:47.400 It has a Christian flavor,

00:31:49.620 but most of the jokes,

00:31:50.960 I think,

00:31:51.620 are for anyone,

00:31:53.420 for anyone who follows

00:31:54.280 politics

00:31:54.820 and follows social media.

00:31:56.880 I used to follow

00:31:58.760 The Onion,

00:31:59.700 which was another

00:32:00.280 satirical site,

00:32:01.320 but I think they stopped

00:32:02.300 being funny a decade ago.

00:32:03.440 I don't know quite why,

00:32:04.280 but the Babylon Bee

00:32:05.240 has been crushing it

00:32:06.420 and you know

00:32:07.640 they're having an impact

00:32:09.080 in the broader society

00:32:10.600 when,

00:32:11.600 and this is,

00:32:12.260 I'm not making this up,

00:32:13.660 when their jokes

00:32:15.380 are fact-checked,

00:32:18.400 including ridiculous,

00:32:20.220 absurd jokes.

00:32:21.840 The official fact-checkers

00:32:22.980 get right on it

00:32:23.760 to tell you people

00:32:24.440 know that's not true.

00:32:25.920 They're fact-checking jokes,

00:32:27.180 which shows you

00:32:27.860 the importance of what

00:32:28.880 Andrew Breitbart said,

00:32:30.660 culture,

00:32:31.960 politics is downstream

00:32:33.260 from culture.

00:32:34.360 If you can get people laughing,

00:32:35.820 if you can get people,

00:32:36.940 normal people,

00:32:38.000 talking about something

00:32:39.220 that's going to have

00:32:40.160 an effect in the polls,

00:32:41.080 people know that

00:32:41.800 and that's why

00:32:42.520 the Babylon Bee

00:32:44.100 has been targeted.

00:32:44.860 Now they had a hilarious joke

00:32:46.180 the other day.

00:32:47.400 They named Rachel Levine

00:32:49.900 the Babylon Bee's

00:32:51.760 Man of the Year

00:32:52.800 and the big joke,

00:32:53.900 of course,

00:32:54.260 is that Rachel Levine

00:32:55.360 was born a man

00:32:56.720 but transitioned

00:32:58.300 and now goes by

00:33:00.100 Rachel Levine,

00:33:01.100 has long hair

00:33:02.040 and has become

00:33:02.900 an admiral

00:33:03.540 in the United States

00:33:05.420 government,

00:33:05.900 believe it or not.

00:33:06.860 It was a joke,

00:33:07.960 transgenderism,

00:33:09.320 of course,

00:33:09.640 being an issue

00:33:10.220 since Will

00:33:11.300 or Leah Thomas

00:33:12.240 crushed the girls

00:33:13.200 in the NCAA competition.

00:33:15.120 A joke on a satirical website,

00:33:16.860 well,

00:33:17.360 it was considered hateful

00:33:19.020 by Twitter

00:33:20.660 which not only

00:33:21.660 deleted that joke

00:33:22.480 but suspended

00:33:23.240 the entire account

00:33:25.900 of the Babylon Bee

00:33:27.620 and joining us now

00:33:28.300 to talk about that

00:33:29.000 is their managing editor

00:33:30.140 down there,

00:33:31.380 Joel Berry,

00:33:32.040 who joins us now

00:33:32.920 via Skype.

00:33:33.920 Joel,

00:33:34.280 I'm thrilled

00:33:35.580 to talk to you

00:33:36.700 and I admire

00:33:37.920 the Babylon Bee

00:33:38.660 so very much.

00:33:39.680 I have to tell you

00:33:40.400 I mainly did follow it

00:33:41.800 on Twitter.

00:33:42.420 That's where I

00:33:42.960 saw the headlines

00:33:44.300 which were often enough

00:33:45.480 to get me laughing

00:33:46.200 and I would click through.

00:33:47.000 Tell me how this

00:33:49.580 all went down

00:33:50.160 and tell me

00:33:50.680 your reaction to it.

00:33:52.040 What's the company doing?

00:33:53.860 You guys haven't

00:33:54.500 bend the knee.

00:33:55.400 You haven't apologized

00:33:56.560 or groveled.

00:33:57.360 That's very rare.

00:33:59.760 Yeah.

00:34:00.540 Well,

00:34:01.060 you know,

00:34:01.580 in one sense

00:34:02.700 we kind of

00:34:03.880 feel like this

00:34:05.340 has been a long time coming.

00:34:07.900 You know,

00:34:08.360 we have always

00:34:09.400 kind of had

00:34:10.360 a long running joke

00:34:11.320 when it comes to

00:34:12.320 trans ideology

00:34:13.920 and we've told

00:34:16.860 a lot of jokes

00:34:17.380 about it.

00:34:18.580 This one

00:34:19.620 for one reason

00:34:20.620 or another

00:34:21.020 whether it's

00:34:21.680 because it's in the news

00:34:22.780 or, you know,

00:34:23.560 it's a hot topic

00:34:24.280 right now

00:34:24.800 because of people

00:34:26.000 like Leah Thomas

00:34:26.660 and Rachel Levine.

00:34:29.160 Twitter

00:34:29.600 informed us

00:34:30.940 that we'd be locked

00:34:31.560 out of our Twitter account

00:34:32.700 unless we

00:34:33.780 admitted

00:34:35.080 that we had

00:34:36.180 involved ourselves

00:34:38.440 in hate speech

00:34:39.240 and take the tweet

00:34:40.360 down ourselves.

00:34:41.000 So instead of just

00:34:42.420 deleting the tweet

00:34:44.140 themselves

00:34:44.640 and saying,

00:34:45.280 okay,

00:34:45.420 we deleted this tweet

00:34:46.320 and here's why,

00:34:47.100 they're requiring us

00:34:48.160 to do that

00:34:48.740 and acknowledge

00:34:49.300 it was wrong

00:34:49.980 and, well,

00:34:50.460 we decided

00:34:51.220 we're not going

00:34:51.700 to do that.

00:34:53.700 You know,

00:34:54.040 the truth is the truth.

00:34:57.160 You know,

00:34:57.520 we are just a bunch

00:34:58.200 of goofballs

00:34:59.000 telling jokes

00:34:59.700 but, you know,

00:35:01.000 our satire

00:35:01.700 is meant to point

00:35:02.480 to the truth

00:35:03.040 and we're not willing

00:35:03.900 to compromise on that.

00:35:05.480 So we decided

00:35:06.620 we're not going

00:35:07.040 to take the tweet down

00:35:07.960 and it did kind of

00:35:09.520 have a domino effect

00:35:10.340 so our editor-in-chief,

00:35:12.120 Kyle Mann,

00:35:12.800 he also got suspended

00:35:14.040 for a tweet

00:35:16.620 that said,

00:35:17.420 maybe Twitter

00:35:17.860 will let us back on

00:35:18.760 if we throw

00:35:19.320 a few thousand

00:35:20.120 Uyghur Muslims

00:35:20.700 in a concentration camp.

00:35:22.620 They suspended him

00:35:23.600 for that tweet

00:35:24.160 and then our founder,

00:35:26.380 Adam Ford,

00:35:27.320 got suspended as well.

00:35:29.580 Our owner,

00:35:30.380 Seth Dillon,

00:35:31.000 he's still on

00:35:31.680 but we feel like

00:35:32.720 it's only a matter of time

00:35:33.740 so it has kind of

00:35:34.560 been this cascade,

00:35:35.660 this domino effect

00:35:36.460 and it's really,

00:35:37.960 you know,

00:35:39.260 what we're dealing

00:35:40.380 with here

00:35:41.260 is a cult ideology.

00:35:43.940 We're dealing

00:35:44.780 with religious people

00:35:46.480 who have constructed

00:35:47.320 a worldview

00:35:47.980 that doesn't

00:35:49.160 hold up

00:35:50.160 under scrutiny,

00:35:51.600 whether that be,

00:35:53.120 you know,

00:35:53.960 moral scrutiny,

00:35:55.520 scientific scrutiny

00:35:56.740 or logical questioning.

00:35:58.980 It doesn't hold up

00:35:59.700 under any of those things

00:36:00.520 so the only way

00:36:01.260 that that worldview

00:36:01.940 is going to survive

00:36:02.820 is through force

00:36:03.680 and so,

00:36:04.860 you know,

00:36:05.860 for a lot of reasons

00:36:06.920 we could talk about

00:36:07.640 all day,

00:36:08.620 this ideology

00:36:09.280 has kind of crept

00:36:10.100 into the institutions,

00:36:11.320 the media,

00:36:12.000 universities,

00:36:12.900 corporations

00:36:13.380 and there's a lot of fear.

00:36:16.480 There's a lot of fear

00:36:17.040 at the top

00:36:17.580 and they bow to these

00:36:20.140 interests

00:36:21.060 and this ideology

00:36:22.400 and it's,

00:36:23.960 after a while

00:36:24.500 we knew it was going

00:36:25.080 to come and burn us

00:36:27.400 at the B

00:36:27.880 and eventually it did.

00:36:29.800 Why do you think

00:36:30.880 that Twitter

00:36:32.160 and other media platforms

00:36:33.500 are so white-hot

00:36:35.300 on transgenderism?

00:36:36.820 I mean,

00:36:37.320 there are a lot

00:36:37.780 of soft spots out there,

00:36:39.760 sensitive issues

00:36:40.700 in Silicon Valley censors.

00:36:42.960 For example,

00:36:43.480 they've been all over

00:36:45.200 the pandemic

00:36:46.400 and any skeptics

00:36:47.660 of the official narrative

00:36:48.660 of the lockdowns,

00:36:49.640 they really hit hard

00:36:50.660 on that.

00:36:52.240 If you say

00:36:54.020 that Trump's election

00:36:55.300 in 2020 was,

00:36:56.860 the fact that he lost

00:36:58.140 was in somehow

00:36:59.200 due to widespread fraud,

00:37:00.980 that'll get you nuked

00:37:02.040 on YouTube.

00:37:02.560 We simply played

00:37:04.160 a 30-second clip

00:37:05.580 of Trump as president

00:37:06.600 and we were taken off

00:37:08.540 YouTube for a week

00:37:10.260 if I recall.

00:37:11.100 So those things are hot

00:37:12.780 but nothing comes close

00:37:15.360 to the absolute

00:37:17.080 intolerance by the left

00:37:19.440 for any jokes

00:37:20.440 about transgenderism.

00:37:21.720 If you quote

00:37:22.420 misgender someone,

00:37:23.960 like say a boy's a girl

00:37:25.140 or a girl's a boy,

00:37:26.040 if you quote

00:37:26.540 dead name someone,

00:37:28.880 it's more brutal

00:37:33.220 than all those

00:37:34.280 other issues

00:37:34.740 and believe me,

00:37:35.260 I know about

00:37:36.160 other censorship issues.

00:37:37.220 I've been fighting

00:37:37.680 my whole life.

00:37:38.460 Why is transgenderism

00:37:39.740 so acute to them?

00:37:42.920 That's a good question.

00:37:44.580 You know,

00:37:45.460 I think it goes back

00:37:47.960 to kind of what I said

00:37:48.680 about it being a culture

00:37:49.640 or a religion.

00:37:50.180 It is so,

00:37:53.020 the worldview itself

00:37:54.380 is so core

00:37:56.680 to how human beings

00:37:58.580 define themselves,

00:37:59.840 how they see themselves

00:38:01.460 in the world.

00:38:02.700 It speaks to

00:38:03.900 a human being's

00:38:05.040 innate worth

00:38:06.380 and dignity.

00:38:07.420 Where does our dignity

00:38:08.220 come from?

00:38:08.860 Where does the worth

00:38:10.160 of a human being

00:38:10.940 come from?

00:38:11.500 I mean,

00:38:12.100 these are like

00:38:12.520 fundamental questions

00:38:14.220 of the universe

00:38:15.540 that human beings

00:38:17.420 have been arguing

00:38:17.960 about for thousands

00:38:19.120 of years.

00:38:19.880 And so,

00:38:20.860 there's a lot

00:38:22.000 of emotion around it.

00:38:23.060 There's a lot

00:38:23.700 of passion

00:38:25.220 around issues

00:38:26.640 like this.

00:38:28.080 You know,

00:38:28.240 and what we're

00:38:28.620 dealing with

00:38:29.240 in the trans movement,

00:38:30.340 it seems,

00:38:31.100 you know,

00:38:31.320 I don't know,

00:38:32.360 it seems to be

00:38:33.800 a very small minority,

00:38:37.780 a very loud people

00:38:40.060 who are very

00:38:42.220 well organized.

00:38:43.700 And it would seem

00:38:45.400 that a lot

00:38:45.880 of the people

00:38:46.440 at the top

00:38:48.080 either

00:38:48.940 placate this group

00:38:51.900 to protect themselves

00:38:53.180 so that they can,

00:38:54.520 you know,

00:38:55.200 there's a lot

00:38:56.100 of talk right now

00:38:56.700 about,

00:38:57.020 you know,

00:38:57.560 woke ink,

00:38:58.340 you know,

00:38:58.540 woke corporatism

00:38:59.400 and how corporate

00:39:01.440 entities are using

00:39:03.380 this as kind

00:39:04.280 of a shield

00:39:04.860 to show forth

00:39:06.400 virtue to the world

00:39:07.360 so that people

00:39:07.980 won't bother them

00:39:08.660 while they use

00:39:09.180 slave labor

00:39:09.680 in China

00:39:10.140 and treat

00:39:11.460 their workers

00:39:11.920 terribly

00:39:12.340 and do all

00:39:13.860 kinds of shady

00:39:14.320 business things.

00:39:15.060 So it's just

00:39:17.200 kind of like

00:39:17.600 this perfect storm

00:39:18.560 of, you know,

00:39:20.060 corporate interests,

00:39:22.580 you know,

00:39:22.880 a worldview movement

00:39:24.460 that is gaining

00:39:25.560 steam,

00:39:26.820 you know,

00:39:27.840 a cultural movement

00:39:28.760 that is in a lot

00:39:29.700 of ways trying

00:39:30.240 to replace religion,

00:39:32.000 trying to replace

00:39:32.620 Christianity

00:39:33.160 and traditional values.

00:39:34.960 And it's kind

00:39:35.680 of all coming

00:39:36.220 together

00:39:37.000 in this kind

00:39:38.580 of this one moment

00:39:39.400 over this one question,

00:39:40.760 what is a man?

00:39:41.920 You know,

00:39:42.200 how do you define

00:39:42.920 a man and a woman?

00:39:45.060 And that seems

00:39:46.140 to have been

00:39:46.560 the breaking point

00:39:48.320 for a lot of people

00:39:49.360 on both sides

00:39:49.980 of the issues

00:39:50.500 and there's no

00:39:52.420 budging on it.

00:39:53.500 You know,

00:39:54.020 you make me want

00:39:54.700 to show a little

00:39:55.640 video clip

00:39:56.200 from the

00:39:57.100 confirmation hearings

00:39:58.500 of Joe Biden's

00:40:01.240 proposed next

00:40:02.280 Supreme Court justice

00:40:03.520 who was asked

00:40:04.700 a very simple

00:40:05.600 question,

00:40:06.260 a question that,

00:40:07.340 you know,

00:40:07.880 a three-year-old

00:40:08.580 can answer.

00:40:09.300 What's a woman?

00:40:10.460 Let me just show

00:40:11.140 you that clip

00:40:11.800 and her answer.

00:40:15.420 It's not honest.

00:40:17.960 She knows

00:40:18.580 what a woman is.

00:40:19.820 She can answer

00:40:20.880 it accurately.

00:40:22.080 She can answer

00:40:22.660 it politically.

00:40:23.420 She refused

00:40:24.220 to answer

00:40:24.700 because she knows

00:40:25.660 it's a mad question.

00:40:28.940 Here,

00:40:29.080 take a quick look.

00:40:29.780 Can you provide

00:40:32.240 a definition

00:40:32.900 for the word

00:40:33.780 woman?

00:40:36.020 Can I provide

00:40:37.160 a definition?

00:40:38.140 No.

00:40:38.420 Yeah.

00:40:39.520 I can't.

00:40:41.240 You can't?

00:40:44.020 Not in this context.

00:40:46.300 I'm not a biologist.

00:40:47.580 If a justice

00:40:48.620 on the Supreme Court,

00:40:49.820 if she's

00:40:50.740 confirmed,

00:40:53.500 cannot tell you

00:40:55.020 what a woman is,

00:40:55.960 that shows you

00:40:56.620 how terrifying

00:40:57.480 this issue is

00:40:58.340 or how powerful

00:40:59.420 or who knows,

00:41:00.360 maybe she's

00:41:00.900 on a different

00:41:01.400 side of the issue.

00:41:02.300 But you would think

00:41:03.340 such a basic question

00:41:05.180 is answerable

00:41:06.000 by someone

00:41:07.460 who seeks to be

00:41:08.140 on the Supreme Court.

00:41:09.240 I don't know.

00:41:09.920 I've just never

00:41:10.920 seen anything like it.

00:41:12.660 Yeah.

00:41:13.340 It is a bizarre

00:41:14.680 phenomenon

00:41:15.500 to see

00:41:16.100 a worldview

00:41:17.200 that is probably

00:41:18.080 only held

00:41:18.740 by 10%

00:41:19.920 of the population

00:41:21.100 to see

00:41:22.920 the other 90%

00:41:24.200 that don't believe

00:41:25.600 in this stuff

00:41:26.300 going along

00:41:27.740 with it.

00:41:29.220 Just kind of

00:41:29.940 going through

00:41:30.340 the motions,

00:41:31.000 saying the right

00:41:31.940 words,

00:41:32.960 whether to protect

00:41:33.740 themselves or

00:41:34.420 because they're

00:41:34.820 too scared.

00:41:36.020 It's a wild

00:41:37.100 thing to see.

00:41:37.900 And part of

00:41:38.440 why we decided

00:41:39.600 to do what we

00:41:40.300 did at the B

00:41:40.760 and not taking

00:41:41.360 down our tweet

00:41:42.020 is we hope,

00:41:43.280 we feel that

00:41:44.320 courage is contagious.

00:41:46.660 If you are

00:41:48.260 willing to stand up,

00:41:49.220 we hope that

00:41:49.720 there are other

00:41:50.440 people who are

00:41:51.100 willing to stand

00:41:52.120 up as well.

00:41:52.720 And then as

00:41:53.460 those numbers

00:41:54.000 grow,

00:41:54.480 you can't

00:41:55.740 ignore us

00:41:56.180 anymore.

00:41:56.840 I think

00:41:57.580 you guys

00:41:58.880 at Rebel Media

00:42:00.020 in Canada

00:42:00.420 have been a

00:42:00.760 great example

00:42:01.320 of that.

00:42:01.740 The courage

00:42:02.080 that you've

00:42:02.380 shown in

00:42:02.680 your journalism

00:42:03.200 has been a

00:42:03.820 huge inspiration

00:42:05.140 to me personally

00:42:05.860 here as I've

00:42:06.780 written jokes

00:42:08.100 for the B.

00:42:08.560 I love watching

00:42:09.100 you guys.

00:42:09.680 So I feel

00:42:10.640 the more people

00:42:11.460 are willing

00:42:12.040 to just speak

00:42:13.040 the simple

00:42:13.480 truth,

00:42:14.100 you know,

00:42:14.400 Captain Picard,

00:42:15.300 there are four

00:42:15.840 lights.

00:42:18.960 Hopefully more

00:42:19.720 people will catch

00:42:20.460 on to that

00:42:21.000 and be willing

00:42:21.700 to do the same.

00:42:22.720 Your allusion

00:42:23.560 to there are

00:42:24.240 four lights,

00:42:24.820 I think that's

00:42:25.420 rooted even

00:42:25.920 deeper in George

00:42:27.800 Orwell's 1984,

00:42:29.040 like to deny

00:42:29.780 what your own

00:42:30.440 eyes see.

00:42:31.180 How many fingers

00:42:31.900 am I holding

00:42:32.480 up?

00:42:32.960 You know it's

00:42:33.600 two,

00:42:33.860 I know it's

00:42:34.500 two,

00:42:35.560 I know that

00:42:36.340 you know

00:42:36.740 and you know

00:42:37.140 that I know,

00:42:38.260 but I am going

00:42:39.000 to make you

00:42:39.740 say it's three

00:42:40.720 just to show

00:42:42.260 that I can

00:42:42.820 bend your mind

00:42:43.680 to it and

00:42:44.740 that you will

00:42:45.220 actually come

00:42:45.760 to believe it

00:42:46.480 or at least

00:42:47.540 to disassociate

00:42:49.580 yourself.

00:42:50.080 And I think

00:42:50.960 that's what it

00:42:51.520 is and that's

00:42:52.080 why they make

00:42:52.700 you delete

00:42:53.340 it.

00:42:54.280 They didn't

00:42:54.740 delete your

00:42:55.380 tweet because

00:42:56.460 you know,

00:42:57.420 that doesn't

00:42:57.800 prove anything.

00:42:58.560 They're powerful,

00:42:59.200 they own the

00:42:59.580 platform,

00:43:00.040 you don't.

00:43:01.020 But to make

00:43:02.020 you accept

00:43:03.360 that that's

00:43:04.380 wrong,

00:43:04.760 that's hateful

00:43:05.340 and for you

00:43:05.920 to censor

00:43:06.460 yourself,

00:43:07.080 it's bloody

00:43:08.220 brilliant in

00:43:08.880 a way.

00:43:09.760 It's like one

00:43:10.520 of those Maoist

00:43:11.300 struggle sessions

00:43:12.160 where you have

00:43:12.700 to confess.

00:43:14.340 And of course

00:43:14.840 you have an

00:43:15.520 enormous Twitter

00:43:16.280 account.

00:43:16.480 How many

00:43:16.840 followers are

00:43:17.980 there on the

00:43:18.480 Babylon Bee

00:43:18.920 account?

00:43:20.140 About one

00:43:20.760 and a half

00:43:21.040 million currently.

00:43:21.800 I mean,

00:43:22.200 just to build

00:43:23.120 that up,

00:43:23.540 the effort

00:43:24.000 and labor

00:43:24.520 and cost

00:43:25.080 and time

00:43:25.620 and the

00:43:26.360 goodwill

00:43:26.860 and the moral

00:43:27.540 capital you've

00:43:28.440 built up,

00:43:28.880 like that's a

00:43:29.280 million and a

00:43:29.640 half people

00:43:30.180 who, I mean,

00:43:32.020 it's taken years.

00:43:33.760 And you,

00:43:34.680 so you're famous.

00:43:35.620 If you were a

00:43:36.620 quiet private

00:43:37.420 person, it would

00:43:39.180 still be odious

00:43:40.040 because you would

00:43:40.720 know that you

00:43:43.080 called yourself a

00:43:44.620 liar, a hater,

00:43:45.680 a thought

00:43:46.580 criminal, but

00:43:47.640 they want you

00:43:48.560 to bend the

00:43:49.100 knee so that

00:43:50.140 your 1.5

00:43:51.200 million followers

00:43:52.240 know that you

00:43:53.120 know and see

00:43:53.900 that you self-denounce.

00:43:55.180 There's nothing

00:43:55.860 more wicked than

00:43:56.600 a jailhouse

00:43:57.500 confession

00:43:58.060 self-denunciation.

00:43:59.980 I agree.

00:44:00.920 And you mentioned

00:44:01.580 Mao.

00:44:01.960 You're exactly

00:44:02.600 right.

00:44:02.900 It goes back

00:44:03.660 all the way

00:44:04.300 to this

00:44:04.960 ideology, this

00:44:05.840 neo-Marxist

00:44:06.680 ideology.

00:44:07.360 We saw it in

00:44:07.920 Soviet Russia.

00:44:08.620 We saw it in

00:44:09.100 Mao's China.

00:44:10.240 This idea,

00:44:11.200 it's really an

00:44:12.000 anti-human idea.

00:44:13.520 This idea that

00:44:14.100 there is no such

00:44:14.740 thing as free

00:44:15.680 will, there is

00:44:16.200 no such thing

00:44:16.700 as the human

00:44:17.160 soul.

00:44:17.620 It's a

00:44:17.840 materialist

00:44:18.520 ideology.

00:44:19.680 This idea that

00:44:20.320 human beings

00:44:20.880 are hackable.

00:44:22.040 If we get the

00:44:22.680 right people up

00:44:23.580 at the top,

00:44:24.140 the experts who

00:44:24.880 can just kind

00:44:25.420 of make society

00:44:26.180 work how it

00:44:26.840 should, we can

00:44:28.100 hack the

00:44:28.860 populace to

00:44:30.180 do what they're

00:44:31.340 supposed to do,

00:44:32.020 to believe what

00:44:32.940 they're supposed

00:44:33.320 to believe and

00:44:33.860 say what they're

00:44:34.300 supposed to say.

00:44:36.100 And we saw how

00:44:37.500 that failed so

00:44:38.680 catastrophically in

00:44:41.200 these places, in

00:44:42.280 China and Russia.

00:44:43.160 But I feel like

00:44:43.720 the West really

00:44:44.320 just kind of

00:44:44.820 hasn't had their

00:44:46.380 own reckoning with

00:44:47.220 this ideology

00:44:47.940 yet, like we

00:44:49.560 did with, say,

00:44:50.300 fascism, Nazism.

00:44:52.440 It's mind-boggling

00:44:53.860 to me to see that

00:44:54.540 it's still alive and

00:44:55.440 well and we're

00:44:57.040 still participating

00:44:57.820 in this kind of

00:44:59.140 cultural pressure,

00:45:03.100 this charade to

00:45:04.360 conform.

00:45:05.500 You know, Orwell

00:45:05.960 talked about a

00:45:06.640 telescreen.

00:45:07.440 It was a big TV

00:45:08.260 that was always on

00:45:09.060 in your room.

00:45:09.820 You could turn it

00:45:10.360 down, but you could

00:45:10.920 never turn it off.

00:45:11.760 And Big Brother

00:45:13.420 was on it and

00:45:14.180 it could see you.

00:45:15.200 That was very

00:45:15.680 prescient.

00:45:16.320 It's amazing what

00:45:17.860 he foresaw writing

00:45:19.080 that book more

00:45:20.700 than 70 years ago.

00:45:24.080 I wonder what he

00:45:25.500 would make of the

00:45:26.300 fact that we're all

00:45:26.940 plugged in willingly.

00:45:28.280 So we take our

00:45:29.100 telescreens everywhere

00:45:30.040 and it's not just

00:45:31.280 visual.

00:45:32.300 It's everything we

00:45:33.100 see.

00:45:33.540 It's everything we

00:45:34.060 write.

00:45:34.380 It's everything we

00:45:34.880 shop.

00:45:35.560 It's our credit

00:45:36.340 card.

00:45:36.620 It's our bank

00:45:37.040 statement.

00:45:37.320 In Canada, if

00:45:38.680 you donated to

00:45:39.600 the truckers, your

00:45:40.380 bank accounts were

00:45:41.340 seized and all of

00:45:42.560 that happened because

00:45:43.480 of the matrix, the

00:45:45.020 internet.

00:45:45.840 I don't know if

00:45:47.120 George Orwell had

00:45:48.120 the imagination of

00:45:49.980 a single network

00:45:52.700 that, like a

00:45:55.400 panopticon, that

00:45:57.020 saw everything, knew

00:45:58.060 everything.

00:45:58.600 In fact, in some

00:45:59.800 ways it knows you

00:46:00.540 better than you know

00:46:01.220 yourself because you

00:46:02.400 don't remember every

00:46:03.240 single thing you ever

00:46:04.080 saw, heard, said,

00:46:05.220 wrote, bought.

00:46:05.980 You just can't

00:46:06.740 remember it all, but

00:46:07.540 the system can.

00:46:08.940 It's there in your

00:46:09.440 database.

00:46:10.340 And so the Chinese

00:46:11.540 social credit system,

00:46:12.580 which I think this is

00:46:13.260 sort of akin to or

00:46:16.460 a cousin of, I

00:46:17.780 wonder what Orwell

00:46:18.620 would have thought if

00:46:19.380 he thought it would be

00:46:20.140 beatable at all.

00:46:21.240 I don't know.

00:46:22.000 So you talk about

00:46:23.660 past fascisms and

00:46:24.960 communisms and the

00:46:26.380 communist revolution in

00:46:27.400 China, the cultural

00:46:29.280 revolution.

00:46:31.260 None of those

00:46:32.260 totalitarians had the

00:46:34.020 internet.

00:46:34.460 internet as, to use

00:46:38.380 your Star Wars

00:46:40.000 analogy, a tricorder,

00:46:41.300 like an everything

00:46:42.080 machine.

00:46:43.040 The everything

00:46:43.820 machine, which we

00:46:45.520 can't break away from

00:46:46.740 when you've got such a

00:46:47.440 habit, the everything

00:46:48.600 machine is enslaving us

00:46:50.180 and it's very easy.

00:46:52.420 Yeah, it almost has

00:46:54.500 become a bit of a

00:46:55.620 combination between

00:46:56.680 1984 and Huxley's

00:46:59.440 Brave New World where

00:47:00.360 we have these things

00:47:01.740 that are monitoring us

00:47:02.880 and controlling us, but

00:47:03.800 we're also addicted to

00:47:05.120 them and we also

00:47:06.320 really enjoy them and

00:47:07.540 they give us pleasure.

00:47:08.720 So it's this kind of

00:47:11.760 this weird meshing of

00:47:12.940 these two dystopias that

00:47:15.220 we've seen.

00:47:19.240 I wonder often where

00:47:21.960 this will go.

00:47:23.520 I get asked that a lot.

00:47:24.880 Where do you think this

00:47:25.460 is going to end up?

00:47:26.340 You know, it could very

00:47:29.680 well get a lot worse

00:47:31.280 before it gets better.

00:47:33.180 But I think, you know,

00:47:34.800 even if we end up in a

00:47:36.960 society that is under

00:47:38.260 complete control, that is

00:47:40.940 completely, you know,

00:47:42.520 electronic, our bank

00:47:43.560 accounts are electronic,

00:47:44.660 you know, the government

00:47:45.180 can switch us off just by

00:47:46.960 flipping the switch.

00:47:47.700 There is something

00:47:50.820 encouraging to me and

00:47:51.860 hopeful to me, knowing

00:47:53.840 that the human soul, the

00:47:57.940 human spirit is real, that

00:47:59.700 we do have free will and

00:48:00.820 that ideas cannot be

00:48:03.760 destroyed.

00:48:05.000 They don't live in the

00:48:07.080 internet.

00:48:07.620 They don't live on a

00:48:09.380 cloud server somewhere.

00:48:10.700 They live within each one

00:48:12.080 of us.

00:48:12.600 And I think that this

00:48:13.940 wokeness, this ideology that

00:48:16.020 has kind of taken over our

00:48:17.320 culture right now, it is

00:48:18.160 self-defeating and it will

00:48:19.760 ultimately be defeated.

00:48:22.200 I'm hopeful for that.

00:48:23.300 The only question is how

00:48:24.160 much damage will it do in

00:48:25.900 the meantime?

00:48:26.880 Yeah, well, I sure hope

00:48:27.620 you're right.

00:48:28.200 Listen, you're very generous

00:48:29.120 with your time and it sure

00:48:30.160 is nice to meet you.

00:48:31.540 I have one last question

00:48:32.860 for you and it's the most

00:48:33.760 depressing question of

00:48:34.820 them all.

00:48:36.580 And maybe you have an

00:48:37.920 answer.

00:48:39.900 There are conservative

00:48:41.820 oriented or free speech

00:48:43.260 oriented alternatives in

00:48:44.700 social media.

00:48:45.340 Getter might be one

00:48:47.120 example.

00:48:47.860 Truth Social, Trump's

00:48:49.080 Project.

00:48:49.880 On the video side, there's

00:48:51.060 rumble.com.

00:48:52.860 And these, some of these

00:48:54.080 are explicit.

00:48:54.860 And then there's Gab and

00:48:56.400 Parler.

00:48:56.920 There's a lot of them.

00:48:58.440 But the thing is, I don't

00:49:01.340 think a lot of liberals are

00:49:02.260 on them or a lot of

00:49:02.960 undecideds or a lot of

00:49:04.140 normal people, so to speak.

00:49:06.240 So the Babylon Bee, if it

00:49:08.060 was on these other social

00:49:09.960 media, which I'm sure you

00:49:10.840 are, you're talking to

00:49:12.820 people who are already

00:49:14.200 awake to the issues that

00:49:16.760 you're parodying and

00:49:17.560 satirizing.

00:49:18.780 Whereas the wonderful

00:49:21.140 nature of you being on

00:49:22.740 Twitter is that someone

00:49:24.180 might have their eyes

00:49:25.520 opened by your jokes or

00:49:27.200 might come over.

00:49:29.600 And that's how I feel

00:49:31.000 about Rebel News.

00:49:32.600 I despise the censorship of

00:49:34.440 YouTube.

00:49:35.320 And we don't put

00:49:35.940 everything on there because

00:49:36.780 we know we would be

00:49:37.640 deleted in a moment.

00:49:38.960 But I want to stay on

00:49:40.200 there as long as possible

00:49:41.140 because there are millions,

00:49:44.440 billions of people who

00:49:45.980 might see the light.

00:49:47.700 I don't want to just talk

00:49:48.940 to people who are already

00:49:50.000 believers.

00:49:50.960 I want to talk to normal

00:49:52.300 people and I want to bring

00:49:54.680 ideas to them new.

00:49:56.360 I mean, it's like the old

00:49:58.540 saying, you make peace with

00:49:59.540 your enemies, not with your

00:50:00.800 friends.

00:50:01.300 You win people over who

00:50:02.860 don't know you or who agree

00:50:04.340 with you.

00:50:04.980 That's why I don't want to

00:50:06.040 be pushed off the mainstream

00:50:07.160 social media, even though I

00:50:08.780 despise YouTube and Google

00:50:10.320 and Twitter and Facebook.

00:50:11.660 I hate them, but I don't

00:50:13.200 want to leave them because

00:50:14.020 everyone else is there.

00:50:14.860 I don't just want to go into

00:50:16.060 the ghetto and talk to, quote,

00:50:18.300 my people.

00:50:20.420 How do you feel about that?

00:50:21.580 That's the one downside.

00:50:22.920 I admire your principle

00:50:24.860 nature.

00:50:25.340 I admire that you won't

00:50:26.180 self-denounce, of course.

00:50:27.980 But I also am deeply sad that

00:50:30.380 1.5 million followers of

00:50:32.160 yours, I don't know how many

00:50:34.620 of those will move over.

00:50:35.860 And even if they all move

00:50:36.680 over, you're losing access to

00:50:38.640 half a billion other users.

00:50:41.020 Yeah.

00:50:41.340 No, I really feel that.

00:50:45.760 And my motivations are yours

00:50:48.840 as well.

00:50:49.520 You know, when the cool thing

00:50:51.420 about our worldview is that

00:50:53.700 when people hear it, they're

00:50:54.800 converted.

00:50:55.520 You know, I remember in the

00:50:56.420 early days of YouTube, before

00:50:57.560 it was all suppressed and, you

00:50:59.100 know, shadowbanned everywhere,

00:51:02.260 you know, conservative clips,

00:51:04.900 you know, Ben Shapiro debating,

00:51:06.280 you know, Ben Shapiro destroys

00:51:07.480 clips would go viral.

00:51:08.420 And my friends were getting

00:51:10.000 won over by these things.

00:51:12.120 They would hear the ideas and

00:51:13.300 they would say, wow, I've never

00:51:14.360 heard that before.

00:51:15.020 It makes sense.

00:51:15.660 So our ideas can win if we're

00:51:18.260 heard.

00:51:18.640 And so I agree.

00:51:19.800 We need to fight for our right

00:51:21.860 to be on these platforms.

00:51:23.100 We can't be relegated to the

00:51:24.780 ghetto.

00:51:25.080 We have to be in the marketplace

00:51:26.480 of ideas, talking with people

00:51:28.040 who don't agree with us.

00:51:29.040 That's extremely important.

00:51:30.820 I think in terms of our decision

00:51:33.740 to not delete the tweet, we are

00:51:36.520 trying to think long term here.

00:51:39.640 And we're hoping that this

00:51:42.380 decision, you know, and we have

00:51:45.420 other things going on in the

00:51:46.320 background, but we're hoping this

00:51:47.380 decision leads to a more

00:51:49.940 fundamental change, more

00:51:51.280 fundamental shift, whether that be

00:51:53.420 legal action or policy change at

00:51:56.920 places like Twitter and Facebook

00:51:58.540 to allow for more diverse, you

00:52:03.180 know, opinions to be shared.

00:52:04.760 And so, you know, our long term

00:52:06.880 goal is not to to to be gone from

00:52:09.400 Twitter forever.

00:52:10.020 We are hoping that this leads us

00:52:12.480 eventually being brought back on

00:52:14.820 Twitter yet free to say what we

00:52:17.760 want to say.

00:52:18.700 I sure hope so.

00:52:20.100 And I know that your team met and

00:52:23.480 talked with Elon Musk, who is one

00:52:26.660 of the world's richest men who could

00:52:29.360 buy Twitter outright if you wanted

00:52:31.360 to.

00:52:31.620 But I think the problem is that half

00:52:33.560 the staff at Twitter, if he tried

00:52:35.500 to impose a free speech rule that

00:52:37.660 used to be there, they would quit or

00:52:39.580 sabotage.

00:52:40.040 That'll be OK.

00:52:41.320 But listen, I wish you good luck.

00:52:44.260 It's great to meet you.

00:52:45.340 Please pass on our moral support and

00:52:48.340 our, you know, our best wishes to the

00:52:51.940 entire team at Babylon Bee.

00:52:53.860 And I'm going to say goodbye to you

00:52:56.240 now, but I'm going to play a clip from

00:52:58.700 one of the other few unwoke comedians

00:53:01.100 out there.

00:53:01.560 His name is Ryan Long.

00:53:03.000 He's actually originally from Canada.

00:53:05.900 And Joel, I don't know if you know this

00:53:07.760 one, but he he pretended he was a video

00:53:10.540 editor working for Disney.

00:53:12.080 And you mentioned that these companies

00:53:13.960 that are super woke on trans issues, which

00:53:16.720 is a very obscure issue in North America.

00:53:18.860 Often they're misdirecting you from their

00:53:22.760 nasty work they're doing in in China,

00:53:25.140 including in Xinjiang, where the Uyghurs

00:53:27.460 are in prison.

00:53:28.120 I mean, Disney literally filled their movie

00:53:30.500 Mulan there and actually in their credits

00:53:32.920 thanked the secret police.

00:53:35.940 Nike, you know, hires a lobbyist to stop

00:53:38.740 an anti-slave labor bill.

00:53:41.060 These countries and companies are so woke in

00:53:42.720 North America and so brutal overseas.

00:53:44.840 I don't know if you saw this one, Joel, it

00:53:47.040 was a Ryan Long, the Canadian comedian

00:53:49.780 pretended to be a video editor who would cut

00:53:52.280 out all the feminist scenes, gay scenes, any

00:53:56.440 woke scenes from movies to make it get the

00:54:00.300 approval of China's government.

00:54:02.360 And then the kicker in the joke was he would

00:54:05.180 take these things he cut out of the China

00:54:07.280 version and he would release them in America

00:54:10.360 for Gay Pride Week to show how woke.

00:54:15.180 Anyhow, I'm going to close with that clip

00:54:16.780 from Ryan Long, one of the few other

00:54:18.700 unwoke comedians out there.

00:54:20.440 Joel, great to see you.

00:54:21.440 All the best to your team.

00:54:22.520 And thanks for joining us today.

00:54:24.400 Thanks so much, Esher.

00:54:25.260 Thanks for what you do as well.

00:54:26.500 Right on.

00:54:26.900 I appreciate that.

00:54:27.860 All right.

00:54:28.140 Let me close by showing you this just

00:54:30.460 hilarious clip by Ryan Long.

00:54:33.800 Take a look.

00:54:34.140 My name is Clark and I'm the editor who

00:54:36.020 cuts out scenes from Hollywood movies for

00:54:37.840 the China releases.

00:54:38.720 Clip that out.

00:54:39.260 Whether that be an LGBTQ kiss, something a

00:54:41.820 little too diverse, they would not want

00:54:43.720 that.

00:54:44.200 Anything encouraging, protesting or

00:54:45.760 overtly sexual.

00:54:46.880 And once I'm able to isolate those scenes,

00:54:48.880 I put them in a bin right here.

00:54:50.440 Gay scenes.

00:54:51.260 And then I'm able to use those exact

00:54:52.740 sections of the films to create little

00:54:54.560 promos for social media celebrating the

00:54:56.560 communities we've just extracted from the

00:54:58.220 China releases.

00:54:59.400 For example, I just removed all of the gay

00:55:01.040 kiss scenes from Bohemian Rhapsody.

00:55:02.740 That was a big no-go for China.

00:55:04.260 Back in for the China release.

00:55:05.800 And the Star Wars lesbian kiss scene, of

00:55:07.460 course.

00:55:07.660 And I was able to use both of those scenes

00:55:09.300 for my Love is Love compilation for the

00:55:11.280 studio's Pride Month socials.

00:55:12.860 Yeah, I work with all the big studios.

00:55:14.180 Disney, Paramount.

00:55:15.060 If you've ever watched a progressive scene

00:55:16.420 in a movie, just know that I'm the person

00:55:17.900 who removed it for audiences in China.

00:55:19.860 I'm sort of like a utility player for some

00:55:21.380 of these studios.

00:55:22.200 Like on the topic of Star Wars, I was doing

00:55:23.760 the graphics recently.

00:55:25.060 See, I had two different posters here.

00:55:26.580 So what I did was I was able to isolate the

00:55:28.460 black actor in the American version.

00:55:30.400 We're able to make John substantially smaller

00:55:32.980 here.

00:55:33.300 And then I was also able to take that isolated photo

00:55:35.820 for a We Celebrate Diversity social media post

00:55:38.400 that we're working on here in America.

00:55:39.820 007 Skyfall.

00:55:41.020 I got rid of some references to prostitution.

00:55:43.320 We're in talks to use some of those select clips

00:55:45.400 as part of our Sex Work Is Real Work campaign.

00:55:47.580 I like to think of myself as a general fixer.

00:55:49.400 Just recently, I edited out the Tiananmen

00:55:51.420 Square footage from Activision's Black Ops Cold War trailer.

00:55:56.040 See right here, we had know your history

00:55:57.720 or be deemed to repeat it.

00:55:59.560 We're doomed to just get rid of that altogether.

00:56:02.460 I'm going to take that and use it for

00:56:04.000 a We Support protest domestically post.

00:56:06.440 You know, sometimes me and the studio heads

00:56:07.920 will joke around that on the editing floor

00:56:09.600 it's no homo and China's homo.

00:56:12.000 Or diversity when not overseas.

00:56:14.280 It's a very complicated puzzle.

00:56:15.720 I mean, recently America has made huge moves

00:56:17.760 to support LGBTQ and diversity initiatives at home.

00:56:20.800 But it goes without saying that progress

00:56:22.340 can't come at the expense of these studios' profits.

00:56:24.700 So we have to tread a fine line.

00:56:26.160 You know, sometimes we're just tampering with something small

00:56:28.240 like changing the back patch in Top Gun

00:56:30.060 so no one thinks Taiwan's a democracy.

00:56:31.980 Popping out a few kiss scenes in Mulan

00:56:33.840 or getting rid of a couple uncomfortable scenes

00:56:35.920 in Django Unchained.

00:56:37.080 This scene was a big no in China.

00:56:39.180 And sometimes it's something massive

00:56:40.440 like changing every single Chinese flag

00:56:42.540 to a North Korean flag in Red Dawn.

00:56:44.580 That was my handiwork right there.

00:56:45.780 In industries outside of Hollywood,

00:56:47.220 this game could be a little simpler.

00:56:48.760 You know, Google's CEO, for example,

00:56:50.160 was able to vocalize his support for protests domestically

00:56:52.960 while removing any protest-related apps

00:56:55.060 from the App Store in China.

00:56:56.340 And Nike can sort of slide under the radar

00:56:58.040 with the Kaepernick thing here

00:56:59.340 and the you go to jail for protesting over there.

00:57:01.360 They remove a few jerseys

00:57:02.360 and it goes relatively undetected.

00:57:03.880 But in the movie business,

00:57:04.960 it's a more difficult puzzle to solve.

00:57:06.720 The actors in these films

00:57:07.800 have been recently very vocal

00:57:09.220 of their participation in the movement.

00:57:10.880 So it's very important to those actors

00:57:12.240 that we still appear to be supporting those movements here

00:57:14.620 even though they're being wiped

00:57:15.700 from the films entirely abroad,

00:57:17.300 thus preserving their public image domestically.

00:57:19.520 Pirates of the Caribbean,

00:57:20.560 we cut a lot of stuff out.

00:57:25.060 Welcome back to your viewer mail.

00:57:35.760 Colin Crampton says,

00:57:37.080 I can smell a reread of Animal Farm

00:57:39.280 in the very near future.

00:57:40.740 Oh, absolutely.

00:57:41.780 You know, Animal Farm is a great book.

00:57:44.220 1984.

00:57:45.040 Those, it's unbelievable.

00:57:46.680 Some of the language,

00:57:47.340 I mean, those books were written

00:57:48.180 almost a century ago, actually.

00:57:50.380 Some of the language is slightly dated,

00:57:52.360 but my God, was he prescient, wasn't he?

00:57:55.160 Orwell, just terrifying.

00:57:57.340 Bruce Atchison says,

00:57:58.620 what an exceptional show this was.

00:58:00.540 I'm saving the podcast of it

00:58:01.960 and burning it to CD-ROM for a friend

00:58:04.720 who can't afford watching much

00:58:06.940 on her unlimited internet plan.

00:58:10.080 Moreover, I'm keeping it for future reference.

00:58:12.540 I love it when people who are denounced

00:58:14.380 as cranks or conspiracy theorists

00:58:16.400 are proved right.

00:58:17.880 Well, both James Lindsay and myself

00:58:22.780 have been denounced as those things.

00:58:24.560 And I actually say I don't like being proved right.

00:58:28.160 You know, in personal things,

00:58:29.880 sometimes maybe you like saying,

00:58:30.980 I told you so.

00:58:32.260 You should have ordered the hot wings

00:58:34.180 instead of the ribs.

00:58:35.800 I told you, you know,

00:58:37.020 in trivial matters and personal matters,

00:58:39.520 I told you so is a really fun thing to say.

00:58:42.060 I hate saying I told you so

00:58:45.280 because odds are I was giving

00:58:47.040 some apocalyptic warning

00:58:48.600 that no one heeded

00:58:50.220 and it came true, I told you so.

00:58:52.620 Those are the worst words anyone could say.

00:58:56.440 John DeLonge says,

00:58:57.760 all isms are predicated

00:58:59.320 on the non-existent of the creator,

00:59:01.440 God, the great lie.

00:59:03.500 Well, that's the thing.

00:59:04.320 I think nature abhors a vacuum.

00:59:07.300 That's true in physics.

00:59:09.020 I think it's true psychologically,

00:59:10.460 emotionally, spiritually.

00:59:13.120 You will believe in something,

00:59:14.900 as James Lindsay pointed out,

00:59:16.760 one of the original proposed titles

00:59:18.200 for Das Kapital was,

00:59:21.000 the Communist Manifesto rather,

00:59:22.480 was to call it a faith.

00:59:25.320 I think a lot of environmentalism

00:59:27.220 has sort of a Gaia,

00:59:28.800 pagan faith elements to it.

00:59:32.000 And, I mean,

00:59:34.300 you will believe in something.

00:59:37.340 You will believe in some sort of a God,

00:59:39.520 whether you use the phrase mother nature

00:59:41.220 or whether you yourself

00:59:43.140 have become your own God.

00:59:44.280 You will believe in something.

00:59:45.760 Everyone does.

00:59:46.460 Everyone has to.

00:59:48.380 And what have we replaced

00:59:49.660 Christianity or Judaism

00:59:51.580 or the old religions with

00:59:53.680 in the new ones?

00:59:55.740 Well, that's our show for today.

00:59:57.840 Until tomorrow,

00:59:58.760 on behalf of all of us here

00:59:59.820 at Rebel World Headquarters,

01:00:00.940 to you at home,

01:00:01.540 good night.

01:00:02.620 Keep fighting for freedom.

01:00:03.500 And let me leave you

01:00:04.140 with our video of the day

01:00:05.100 from Avi Yamini.

01:00:07.040 Shocking story from down under.

01:00:09.600 Unvaxxed siblings

01:00:10.600 banned

01:00:11.340 from visiting their dying dad.

01:00:13.940 This is a terrible story.

01:00:15.640 All right, good night.

01:00:16.440 You're saying this is a couple years ago

01:00:17.840 and he looks happy and healthy.

01:00:19.720 Oh, we had pictures from him in December

01:00:21.320 looking perfectly fine.

01:00:22.620 He was fine in Christmas.

01:00:24.300 You know,

01:00:24.460 they keep telling us

01:00:25.300 to listen to the experts.

01:00:26.100 I want one expert,

01:00:27.800 one,

01:00:28.460 to explain to me

01:00:29.800 how that makes any sense.

01:00:32.260 Where being that cruel to somebody

01:00:34.120 has become that easy

01:00:35.720 for institutions.

01:00:37.440 How?

01:00:38.200 Why?

01:00:38.900 For what?

01:00:39.940 It feels like

01:00:40.920 they're just punishing those

01:00:42.380 who went against the grain.

01:00:44.200 It definitely feels like that.

01:00:47.960 Are you angry at the hospital?

01:00:51.740 Um.

01:00:56.100 Yes.

01:00:58.760 Yes, I am.

01:00:59.960 This truly is a heartbreaking story

01:01:02.480 that everyone needs to see.

01:01:04.060 So,

01:01:04.700 please watch it through to the end

01:01:06.320 and head over to

01:01:07.240 changethecruelrule.com

01:01:10.240 to sign and share the petition

01:01:11.640 to ensure

01:01:12.380 that it never happens again.

01:01:14.260 My father was diagnosed

01:01:15.480 with

01:01:16.180 stage 4 lung cancer

01:01:18.380 on the 6th of January

01:01:20.740 earlier this year.

01:01:23.120 And on

01:01:24.180 it was either

01:01:25.820 March the 6th or 7th

01:01:27.320 he was put into palliative care.

01:01:29.000 Palliative care

01:01:29.660 is where terminally ill

01:01:31.080 patients are transferred

01:01:32.220 for end-of-life care.

01:01:34.360 And if you look

01:01:34.980 on the Olivia Newton-John

01:01:36.360 Centre website,

01:01:38.360 they claim to work with you

01:01:40.040 to meet your emotional,

01:01:41.240 spiritual,

01:01:41.720 and practical needs

01:01:43.500 in a holistic way.

01:01:44.820 Promising

01:01:45.340 their support extends

01:01:46.840 to the family too.

01:01:48.280 Out of my family,

01:01:48.980 there's 10 of us

01:01:49.700 overall

01:01:50.200 and 7 of them

01:01:51.240 are vaccinated.

01:01:52.160 So,

01:01:52.460 the vaccinated

01:01:53.140 part of our family

01:01:54.920 they were allowed

01:01:56.680 to go see Dad.

01:01:57.760 We called up to ask,

01:01:58.900 you know,

01:01:59.580 what does it take

01:02:00.560 for an unvaccinated

01:02:01.940 person to get in?

01:02:02.980 And

01:02:03.200 at first off,

01:02:04.280 they

01:02:04.560 refused us.

01:02:07.020 So you understand,

01:02:08.060 the current guidelines

01:02:09.200 from the government

01:02:10.260 stayed on their website

01:02:12.000 right now.

01:02:13.040 It says,

01:02:13.520 hospital visitors

01:02:14.260 must have at least

01:02:15.560 two doses

01:02:16.080 of the vaccine

01:02:16.900 or show evidence

01:02:18.360 of a negative

01:02:19.620 rat test

01:02:21.040 that is taken

01:02:22.080 on the day

01:02:22.840 of the visit.

01:02:23.700 The brothers

01:02:24.080 should have never

01:02:24.880 been banned

01:02:25.960 but for some reason,

01:02:27.300 the Olivia Newton-John

01:02:28.460 Palliative Care Centre

01:02:29.880 in the Austin Hospital

01:02:31.040 has its own

01:02:32.440 callous

01:02:33.180 and irrational rule.

01:02:34.960 Patients who are receiving

01:02:35.800 end of life

01:02:36.360 terminal care,

01:02:37.860 they would have to apply

01:02:39.120 for an exemption.

01:02:40.320 That's exactly

01:02:40.820 what they did.

01:02:41.800 After fighting

01:02:42.700 to be able to see

01:02:43.700 their dying father,

01:02:45.020 the brothers received

01:02:45.900 an exemption

01:02:46.480 to visit him

01:02:48.180 once,

01:02:49.320 separately,

01:02:49.720 in full PPE

01:02:51.160 for maximum

01:02:52.520 an hour

01:02:53.100 after producing

01:02:53.900 the negative rat test

01:02:55.740 at the hospital.

01:02:56.920 Obviously,

01:02:57.640 when your father

01:02:58.580 is very close

01:03:00.500 to passing,

01:03:02.220 you know,

01:03:02.520 he wants to see you

01:03:03.500 and we want to see him

01:03:05.160 and for them to

01:03:06.520 at first refuse us

01:03:10.040 and then

01:03:11.660 once they gave us

01:03:13.700 an exemption

01:03:14.160 for only one hour

01:03:14.980 and a one-off visit

01:03:15.840 for the entirety

01:03:16.600 of his stay,

01:03:17.460 that's

01:03:17.920 an unbelievable

01:03:19.940 cruelty to

01:03:20.840 us

01:03:21.420 and dad.

01:03:22.720 Following their visit,

01:03:23.500 the brothers

01:03:23.860 then called the hospital

01:03:25.140 to see if there was

01:03:25.980 any chance

01:03:26.700 that they could

01:03:27.240 revisit their father

01:03:28.680 before he dies

01:03:29.660 within the expected month.

01:03:30.900 We came in

01:03:31.600 and we had an exemption

01:03:32.400 to see

01:03:33.000 my father.

01:03:34.500 Now,

01:03:35.220 the exemption,

01:03:36.500 is it just once

01:03:37.520 or can we come in again?

01:03:38.640 It's a one-off

01:03:39.200 for his whole admission

01:03:40.300 and that was explained

01:03:43.060 to your mother

01:03:43.600 when I got

01:03:44.540 those exemptions

01:03:45.960 granted.

01:03:46.380 Can you explain

01:03:50.080 why that is?

01:03:51.740 It's a hospital policy

01:03:53.360 with a COVID situation.

01:03:55.400 To be honest,

01:03:55.880 dad,

01:03:56.120 when I saw him,

01:03:56.620 he was like,

01:03:56.900 I can't believe

01:03:57.300 they let you in.

01:03:58.100 Like,

01:03:58.300 that was his mindset.

01:04:00.420 Like,

01:04:00.480 they've been so cruel

01:04:01.860 to unvaccinated people.

01:04:03.900 Just,

01:04:04.580 it even,

01:04:05.460 it's so telling

01:04:06.060 when he said that.

01:04:06.860 It's like,

01:04:07.080 I can't believe

01:04:07.440 they even let you see me

01:04:08.480 when I was dying

01:04:10.700 for one hour.

01:04:11.480 So,

01:04:13.040 you know,

01:04:13.600 obviously that was

01:04:14.940 really heartbreaking.

01:04:15.960 I just don't understand

01:04:16.800 because we take

01:04:17.420 a negative rat test.

01:04:19.960 But it's still

01:04:21.620 limiting the risk

01:04:22.640 to both patients

01:04:23.820 and staff.

01:04:25.420 So even if we

01:04:26.500 have a negative rat test,

01:04:27.780 we're still a risk?

01:04:28.280 Yes,

01:04:28.820 they only allow

01:04:29.600 that one off.

01:04:30.680 But are we still a risk

01:04:32.180 even if we have

01:04:32.740 a negative rat test?

01:04:34.480 Yeah.

01:04:34.680 it's what the,

01:04:36.560 it's limiting risk

01:04:37.620 and that's what

01:04:38.400 the policy is

01:04:39.500 of the hospital.

01:04:40.500 I have actually

01:04:41.080 taken it to the executive

01:04:42.180 and I even spoke

01:04:43.200 to the executive today

01:04:45.280 because your mum

01:04:46.240 said it's unfair

01:04:47.100 and executive

01:04:48.860 has said no.

01:04:50.780 It's what the policy is

01:04:52.400 and it was explained

01:04:54.660 to your mother

01:04:56.120 that it is a one-off

01:04:57.280 exemption

01:04:58.260 for the one hour

01:04:59.900 and that's all

01:05:00.860 we can do.

01:05:01.700 They didn't explain

01:05:02.360 the science behind it.

01:05:03.280 Pretty much the way it goes

01:05:04.580 is you get a nurse

01:05:05.340 and she just speaks

01:05:06.180 for the hospital

01:05:07.380 and they'll just say,

01:05:08.600 you know,

01:05:08.780 this isn't what I believe.

01:05:11.120 These are just the rules

01:05:12.100 that I've been given.

01:05:13.020 Well,

01:05:13.760 I did put the questions

01:05:14.660 directly to the hospital

01:05:16.260 including

01:05:17.120 why they stop

01:05:19.220 unvaccinated family members

01:05:20.680 from visiting

01:05:21.340 dying relatives

01:05:22.180 when the government's

01:05:23.660 guidelines

01:05:24.160 specifically permits it

01:05:25.860 with a negative rat test

01:05:27.000 and

01:05:27.420 I asked them

01:05:28.820 what the science is

01:05:29.540 behind

01:05:29.980 allowing vaccinated people

01:05:32.080 to visit

01:05:32.720 while banning

01:05:34.100 the unvaccinated

01:05:34.960 when vaccinated people

01:05:36.000 can carry

01:05:37.300 and spread

01:05:37.980 the virus too.

01:05:39.220 We would have done

01:05:39.840 any tests

01:05:40.420 they required.

01:05:41.060 This is not an issue.

01:05:42.000 Like we would have

01:05:42.400 taken multiple rat tests

01:05:43.520 in a row

01:05:43.900 because

01:05:44.300 if you take about three

01:05:45.660 the percentage jumps up

01:05:46.800 to a really high

01:05:47.800 percent accuracy.

01:05:48.460 So you're happy

01:05:48.900 to do that?

01:05:49.320 I can do anything.

01:05:50.220 PCR tests.

01:05:51.320 So your problem

01:05:52.160 is not doing this.

01:05:53.080 Are you the same?

01:05:54.420 Yeah, yeah,

01:05:54.780 I'm happy to do

01:05:55.560 whatever they want

01:05:56.480 to give me.

01:05:56.880 I mean my dad's dying

01:05:57.600 so like obviously

01:05:58.300 I would be.

01:05:59.340 And that's understandable

01:06:00.420 but I'm just

01:06:01.720 I just can't work it out

01:06:02.920 then.

01:06:03.340 If you guys were willing

01:06:04.040 to do three in a row

01:06:04.860 which they say

01:06:05.420 is over 95%

01:06:06.620 accuracy

01:06:07.380 then

01:06:08.720 how can they

01:06:10.020 stop somebody

01:06:10.700 because they're

01:06:11.360 unvaccinated?

01:06:12.500 What is the science

01:06:13.300 behind it?

01:06:13.720 I will pose the question

01:06:14.800 to them

01:06:15.340 but I'm just

01:06:16.260 I can't for the life of me

01:06:17.800 figure out the science

01:06:18.840 behind that.

01:06:19.500 Look, if you get the answer

01:06:20.600 you let us know

01:06:21.380 because we

01:06:22.360 we're having a hard time

01:06:24.240 trying to figure that out

01:06:25.060 as well.

01:06:25.500 It's been

01:06:26.080 more than two days

01:06:27.160 and the hospital

01:06:28.680 has yet to explain

01:06:30.160 the science

01:06:31.280 that allows vaccinated

01:06:32.220 people to enter

01:06:33.640 as many times

01:06:34.260 as they wish

01:06:34.880 without even

01:06:35.880 a single test

01:06:38.140 yet bans

01:06:38.700 unvaccinated

01:06:39.400 loved ones

01:06:39.980 from entering

01:06:41.080 no matter how many

01:06:42.300 tests

01:06:42.820 they're willing to take.

01:06:44.220 It seems

01:06:44.920 what you said

01:06:45.580 your mum called

01:06:46.200 it illogical

01:06:47.000 it seems

01:06:48.240 unscientific

01:06:49.380 if you're willing

01:06:50.660 to let the other

01:06:51.640 seven members

01:06:52.260 of the family

01:06:52.820 in as many times

01:06:53.780 as they want

01:06:54.260 without any tests

01:06:55.400 so they could likely

01:06:56.780 be carrying the virus in

01:06:58.200 you're happy to let them

01:06:59.680 in and out

01:07:00.300 without a test

01:07:01.080 but you're going to

01:07:02.120 ban the unvaccinated

01:07:03.420 who are willing

01:07:03.920 to do three rat tests

01:07:05.340 who are willing

01:07:06.040 to do a PCR test

01:07:07.100 who are willing

01:07:07.560 to do whatever test

01:07:09.380 you want

01:07:09.780 to make sure

01:07:10.320 that they're coming

01:07:10.860 in clean

01:07:11.580 but you're going

01:07:12.660 to stop them

01:07:13.300 only because

01:07:14.660 they're unvaccinated.

01:07:15.840 There's absolutely

01:07:16.740 no science

01:07:17.620 to explain

01:07:18.140 the hospital's policy

01:07:19.300 and it's

01:07:19.980 clearly designed

01:07:21.080 to punish

01:07:22.260 the unvaccinated

01:07:23.160 in the most

01:07:24.280 inhumane

01:07:25.520 way possible.

01:07:26.780 I don't know

01:07:27.260 how people

01:07:27.840 can be so cruel

01:07:29.960 to others

01:07:31.600 and just be

01:07:33.500 so heartless

01:07:34.160 so look

01:07:34.660 it's tough

01:07:37.580 to understand.

01:07:38.440 It sure is.

01:07:39.620 Sadly their father

01:07:40.360 passed away

01:07:40.880 last weekend

01:07:41.540 and while the hospital

01:07:43.500 hasn't responded

01:07:44.680 I shared their story

01:07:45.960 with Olivia Nugent-John's

01:07:48.380 daughter Chloe

01:07:49.520 who even though

01:07:50.260 her mother

01:07:50.700 has nothing to do

01:07:52.520 with the draconian

01:07:53.900 rule being implemented

01:07:55.140 in the hospital

01:07:55.880 she sent back

01:07:57.700 this powerful message

01:07:59.180 to the brothers.

01:08:00.100 Hello Marco

01:08:00.740 and Ivan

01:08:01.340 my name's Chloe

01:08:03.580 I heard your story

01:08:05.100 and my heart

01:08:06.800 absolutely

01:08:07.480 broke

01:08:08.500 for you

01:08:10.660 your family

01:08:11.260 and your father

01:08:11.940 that you missed out

01:08:13.080 on

01:08:13.760 your last

01:08:15.120 precious moments

01:08:16.300 with him

01:08:16.940 and that he missed out

01:08:17.940 on those last

01:08:18.700 precious moments

01:08:19.500 with you

01:08:20.060 such a hard time

01:08:23.720 in the world

01:08:24.100 right now

01:08:24.620 and the most important

01:08:26.060 thing is love

01:08:26.760 and family

01:08:27.380 so my heart

01:08:30.000 really really broke

01:08:30.800 for you

01:08:31.240 that you missed that

01:08:33.180 so I wanted you

01:08:34.600 to know that you

01:08:35.180 were thought of

01:08:35.920 and that your story

01:08:37.400 matters

01:08:37.840 and that your family

01:08:38.700 matters

01:08:39.180 and I really hope

01:08:42.780 that these policies

01:08:45.820 are changed

01:08:47.800 they don't make sense

01:08:49.040 and I hope

01:08:50.620 no other family

01:08:51.300 has to go through

01:08:52.040 what you went through

01:08:52.860 sending so much love

01:08:56.460 and light your way

01:08:57.560 beautifully put

01:09:00.300 good on her

01:09:01.000 I hope she inspires

01:09:02.100 the hospital

01:09:02.460 to also apologize

01:09:03.420 and more importantly

01:09:04.740 at least from

01:09:05.960 the family's perspective

01:09:07.140 encourages them

01:09:08.480 to change

01:09:09.500 the cruel rule

01:09:10.500 what mum would like

01:09:11.980 even more than an apology

01:09:13.120 was what I previously stated

01:09:14.540 was for them to change

01:09:15.400 the rules

01:09:16.020 so people in the future

01:09:17.600 don't have to experience

01:09:18.340 what we did

01:09:18.960 if this story hits you

01:09:23.120 in the way it did for me

01:09:24.100 make sure to head over

01:09:25.020 to changethecruelrule.com

01:09:27.200 to sign and share

01:09:28.980 the petition

01:09:29.520 in our best attempt

01:09:30.760 to stop this

01:09:31.380 from happening

01:09:31.860 to any other family

01:09:33.540 it's the least we can do

01:09:34.700 changethecruelrule.com

01:09:37.140 we'll see you next time

01:09:39.100 bye

01:09:40.060 and more

01:09:40.420 until next time

01:09:41.040 we'll see you next time

01:09:41.880 We'll be right back.

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