Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ A scuffle breaks out at duelling rallies over transgenderism. But there's a surprising wrinkle to it

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Interesting show today. You know, we had reporters in Ottawa where there was

00:00:04.360 a big pro and con dueling protests over transgenderism, but there was a wrinkle that

00:00:10.040 was just, boy, it was interesting. I think you'll find the video footage fascinating.

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00:00:58.100 Tonight, a scuffle breaks out at dueling protests over transgenderism, but there's a surprising 0.92

00:01:06.320 wrinkle to it. It's June 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:09.900 You're ready for freedom! 0.73

00:01:13.060 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:16.180 I saw this tweet today by a journalism professor, so you can imagine what he's like. His name is

00:01:30.180 Sean Dern, and he says, anti-2SLGBTQ+, hate on display in Canada's capital today, along with

00:01:38.200 substantial community pushback. As usual, Ottawa police stand idly by and watch while alt-right

00:01:43.800 and religious extremists break the law. Also note, Ottawa police Twitter logo includes pride

00:01:49.960 color. Shameful! Now, Professor Dern is pretty easily excitable, so it's not the first time he's

00:01:58.320 said things like this. Here is a tweet from about a year ago. He said, the trucker protest is based on

00:02:03.840 lies, hate speech, and white supremacy. Even the Canadian and Ontario Truckers Association want

00:02:09.900 nothing to do with them. 90% of Canada's truckers are vaxxed. The other 10% can get vaxxed or get

00:02:15.560 another job. Yeah, now, those facts aren't true, but you can see the good journalism professor calls

00:02:21.340 anyone he doesn't like white supremacists. In fact, as you know, many truckers are of Indo-Canadian

00:02:26.460 descent, or they're indigenous. It was quite a diverse group at the trucker convoy, and no,

00:02:31.540 they weren't 90% vaxxed. That's propaganda, which is not surprising from a journalism professor.

00:02:36.720 And even if they were vaxxed, the point of the trucker convoy was freedom, bodily autonomy,

00:02:42.680 make your own decision. That used to be something the left cared about. In another tweet, the same

00:02:48.000 professor calls truckers domestic terrorists, so he is a bit excitable. But let's compare the

00:02:52.200 professor's tweet, and I just selected him pretty much at random from dozens of angry Ottawa leftists.

00:02:58.820 Let's compare with reality. I'm going to show you a few video clips from the fracas, but I think this

00:03:05.580 one is the most gripping. I mean, it really is quite startling. Here's a tweet from our friend

00:03:10.940 Rupa Supramanya, who was down there covering it. By the way, she did a great job covering the trucker 0.93

00:03:15.200 convoy, too. She says, parents and their kids protesting and chanting, leave our kids alone. 0.90

00:03:20.860 They are amused at the white supremacist far-right label.

00:03:34.620 Interesting. Now, that's pretty tame, though. I want to show you a little bit more. This is also from Rupa.

00:03:40.520 She says, this mother and daughter are furious that gender ideology is being taught at schools.

00:03:45.180 At one point, Antifa pushed the mother to the ground. Now, that's crazy. I would like to get

00:03:51.500 a video of that. I couldn't find it today. But here's the mother and daughter talking about leave

00:03:56.480 our kids alone.

00:03:57.180 So, we are here today against this pride thing, the whole thing that is going on in school.

00:04:02.380 They're teaching our children that a guy with a guy is okay, and a girl with a girl is okay. 0.72

00:04:08.680 It's not about religion anymore. It's about the kids. Our kids now. Our kids are learning stuff.

00:04:15.060 They're not supposed to be learning at this age. And they are kids. They are babies. I don't know

00:04:19.980 how they let them learn this stuff. I have a brother that is in kindergarten and learning about

00:04:26.240 this stuff. This is just not appropriate anymore. The one in KG2, not every day, but they'll have it

00:04:33.240 in June 21. But this one is in grade two. And every day they have a story. And different story

00:04:39.360 about the animal, first about the human being, and after about the animal. And he came and

00:04:44.200 he explained for me, the kids doesn't know what it means. They came and they asked for

00:04:49.220 mother, dad, like, what does it mean, mama? What they're doing? What's it mean?

00:04:53.220 So, have you spoken to the teachers? Have you spoken to the school?

00:04:56.600 We did. And they were like, oh, it's going one day.

00:05:01.000 One day in June 21. And after I find my brother, after I find my son, the kids go and make a

00:05:08.480 story every day. The teachers, they're making a story every day.

00:05:11.540 Yeah, he comes every day. And people are talking about this story.

00:05:12.300 And me, I stop my kids. I don't want them to send them to the school anymore.

00:05:16.160 Yeah, so what do you... In the beginning of the, in June, hard, the June.

00:05:19.100 I leave the June for them. Let them teach the other kids. If they're parents, they like the

00:05:24.000 kids to go there and teach them. Me, I protect my kids. I don't want them to go anymore

00:05:30.520 to school anymore. I think this family, given their hijabs, is very socially conservative,

00:05:35.920 very sexually conservative. I'm not sure if they think gay rights or gay sex is acceptable 0.98

00:05:40.300 in any form. I don't know. I'm just speculating. But what they are saying is they're focused 0.89

00:05:46.120 on children, children as young as kindergarten. You heard that, mom. She doesn't want her kids 1.00

00:05:50.720 to go to school anymore because she can't believe what is being taught as a surprise to her.

00:05:56.000 All right, but look at this. It's another tweet. Young Muslim kids stomp the pride flag 0.97

00:06:03.100 as their mothers cheer them on.

00:06:05.060 All right, we're here currently at the protest. We got a bunch of young kids here with their

00:06:12.340 Arab parents, and they are stomping the pride flag here at the protest. The Arab community

00:06:18.280 is sending a message, I believe, to the woke that they are not accepting of this, ladies

00:06:22.820 and gentlemen. Yes. Yes. Any message you'd like to send today to just leave your kids

00:06:32.600 alone. What? Yes. Leave the kids alone, she says, ladies and gentlemen. Leave the kids

00:06:40.600 alone. Leave the kids alone, she says. And that one lad had a poster saying male, female

00:06:45.820 and homeschool. I'm not sure exactly what that poster means, but I think it's safe to say

00:06:51.600 if those kids aren't being homeschooled now, they will be. Or maybe they'll go to a Muslim 1.00

00:06:56.340 school, of which there are many in Ottawa. We saw a mass boycott of schools the other day

00:07:00.580 in Ottawa. CTV reported that some schools had 60% of the kids kept home by their parents. That

00:07:06.020 is a huge rebellion. I think most of the ethnic communities with this in mind wouldn't go

00:07:12.000 to a street protest. I just don't think new Canadians are that likely to go to a protest

00:07:17.240 like this today. They would just do what those kids are suggesting. They'll just pull their

00:07:21.280 kids out of school, take them out for a bit, take them out forever, homeschool them or do

00:07:26.860 it in a Muslim school. Here's what the official school boards are saying. And this is a letter

00:07:32.980 from Stephen Leckie, Ontario's Minister of Education, who says he's a conservative. I'll quote

00:07:39.080 just a bit from him. He says, it is incumbent on all school boards to ensure all students,

00:07:44.280 most especially 2SLGBTQ plus students, feel supported, reflected in their schools and welcome

00:07:53.520 within our communities. That includes celebrating pride in a constructive, positive and meaningful

00:07:59.520 way to affirm that 2SLGBTQ plus students know that their educators and staff, school board

00:08:07.360 administrators and government stand with them. We firmly believe that all publicly funded

00:08:13.280 schools must be safe spaces for all children, regardless of race, heritage, faith, sexuality

00:08:18.840 and gender. Well, that's the trick, isn't it? That last part there, a safe space for gender 0.76

00:08:25.320 activism and for Islam. Can you do both those same things? Those moms don't think so. Here's 0.99

00:08:36.480 the BC Minister of Education, who's even tougher. She uses the language of prosecutions. Let me read.

00:08:44.040 In 2016, the BC Human Rights Code was amended to ensure that gender identity and expression are

00:08:49.520 protected under the code. All schools must comply with the Human Rights Code and demonstrate they

00:08:55.260 are creating safe, welcoming and inclusive environments for our students and staff.

00:08:59.000 It's another way of saying, do the trans thing or be prosecuted. I mean, there's no other way to read 0.58

00:09:06.340 that. I think, of course, the far bigger weapon that's used all the time, not rarely, used ubiquitously

00:09:13.840 is social pressure, cancel culture, that sort of thing. Shaming someone on Twitter, boycotting someone,

00:09:20.420 telling them they're a bad person, people who don't want to be alienated from the establishment.

00:09:24.660 That was a tactic used against established Canadians who cared about those sorts of things. 0.56

00:09:30.480 It was used to shame them into getting vaccinated now. But what if you're not part of the establishment

00:09:35.320 at all? What if you're not on Twitter? What if you don't care about peer pressure? What if you're

00:09:40.320 not at a job from which you can get fired? What if you're a Muslim mom who is fairly new to Canada 1.00

00:09:45.240 and you're adjusting to this country still? And there's a lot of great things about Canada,

00:09:50.080 a lot of things that are stretching you beyond your safe place, your norm, especially compared

00:09:55.440 to your home country. But this is just a bridge too far. If you're one of those Muslim moms, do you 1.00

00:10:01.840 really give a care what Stephen Lecce says or what Twitter says about you? You're just not in that

00:10:07.000 social circle. They can't ban you. You don't work outside the home anyway, so they can't fire you.

00:10:14.080 You are resistant to the woke mob. You don't even know about them. They wouldn't even know how to get to

00:10:19.820 you in your language, let alone. You don't even care about them. You don't even know that they're

00:10:26.140 being mean to you because you don't follow them on social media. You're just in a different circuit.

00:10:30.160 But here's the interesting part. The woke people, they don't know how to fight the Muslim moms. How do 1.00

00:10:37.880 you fight against a mom in a hijab speaking in an Arabic accent? How do you fight against cute Muslim 1.00

00:10:43.860 kids doing something that would cause a heart attack on the left, stomping on pride flags? I mean,

00:10:49.620 just the other day in London, Ontario, a high school kid apparently defaced a pride flag. You can 1.00

00:10:55.040 deface the statue of Sir John A. Macdonald. You can deface Queen Victoria. You can tear up the

00:11:00.260 Canadian flag. But don't you dare touch the holy relic of the woke movement. Seriously, police are

00:11:05.540 looking for that hate crime. So how do you go full hate crime investigation with police against a white 0.68

00:11:11.720 Christian, I presume, who defaces a pride flag in London? But turn a blind eye when visible minority 1.00

00:11:16.980 Muslim kids do this public stomping with the approval of their parents. Again, if those were 1.00

00:11:25.820 white kids, the Children's Aid Society would be paying them a visit. Don't laugh. I don't exaggerate. 0.99

00:11:30.780 That's exactly what Ottawa police threatened to do to the truckers if they had kids with them.

00:11:36.480 I think that the government trying to take Muslim kids away from their parents for political reasons

00:11:40.920 would probably be the worst political miscalculation since hiring David Johnson to look into Chinese 0.80

00:11:46.960 influence. Not going to happen. But back to the journalism professor's tweet. Police stand idly by

00:11:52.000 and watch while alt-right and religious extremists break the law. Alt-right? That's code for white 0.86

00:11:59.060 racists, white supremacists. Is that what those kids were? Were they religious extremists? Are they 0.99

00:12:04.400 talking about those kids or their moms? They sure talk about white supremacists and white this and

00:12:11.500 white that. But let's be candid. It's the white moms and dads who are generally rolling over and 0.81

00:12:18.240 submitting to the pride political machine because they're worried about being canceled or seeming

00:12:23.300 ghosts. They are plugged into society, to the establishment. They are on Twitter. They are on

00:12:28.220 Facebook. They can be shamed. There were white protesters. I'm not the one who brought race

00:12:34.520 into this, but the other side did, so let's just talk about it. The whitest of all, of course, 0.98

00:12:39.180 were the pro-pride, pro-trans activists and their Antifa street gangs who attacked the peaceful

00:12:45.260 protesters on the other side. Here's a video filmed by our friend Beth Bache of the Postmillennial.

00:12:50.080 It shows the two sides. I think this is a great little video that she made. Which side was more

00:12:54.660 diverse? Which one is hiding their faces? This is from the Postmillennial.

00:12:57.960 Go home fascists! Go home fascists! Go home fascists! Go home fascists! 0.96

00:13:06.620 Leave our kids alone! Leave our kids alone! Leave our kids alone! Leave our kids alone! 1.00

00:13:23.840 Leave our kids alone! Leave our kids alone! Leave our kids alone! Leave our kids alone! 1.00

00:13:37.540 Leave our kids alone! Get the garbage off your face! 1.00

00:13:50.980 To my surprise, Ottawa police actually did detain some of the Antifa thugs. 0.99

00:14:05.200 We'll see if they're immediately released without charges, which is what I suspect will happen.

00:14:09.780 Contrast that to being jailed for 50 days like Tamara Leach was.

00:14:14.120 Now, the protest on the other side did include a few white men, all apologies.

00:14:17.640 Namely, billboard Chris Elston, who we talked to the other day.

00:14:21.860 But he literally just stands with this big billboard on him and engages in calm conversation.

00:14:27.380 Here's just a clip of that.

00:14:28.480 The message we should be sending our children is that there's no right way to be a boy or girl.

00:14:34.280 They are beautiful just as they are.

00:14:37.580 No drugs or scalpels needed.

00:14:39.940 We need to get this harmful ideology out of our schools.

00:14:43.960 Today's a watershed moment.

00:14:45.320 We're going to have more of these events, more Canadians are waking up every day, and more importantly, more Canadians are speaking up every day.

00:14:52.520 So thank you so much for coming out.

00:14:55.320 This is going to be a day we all look back at history and say this is a turning point for defeating gender ideology. 0.85

00:15:01.180 And would you look at that?

00:15:03.040 Here he is with one of his billboards. 0.52

00:15:05.080 He's standing with a trans person and a gay person.

00:15:08.900 Why would they do that?

00:15:10.160 Why would they stand with a hater like that?

00:15:12.060 Well, because they agree with his message.

00:15:13.660 Children cannot decide to do these things.

00:15:15.740 Children cannot make these decisions.

00:15:18.860 Irrevocable decisions.

00:15:20.080 Puberty blockers, hormones, even surgery.

00:15:24.220 You can be a trans person. 0.90

00:15:25.780 You can be a gay person and not want children carved up like pumpkins, as Sheila Gunn-Reed calls it. 0.89

00:15:31.060 So how is this busy day in Ottawa going to be reported? 0.87

00:15:35.600 We had a reporter there, and a cameraman will carry the reports for you.

00:15:39.180 We already have some up on our website.

00:15:40.960 We'll have more.

00:15:42.580 I saw other independent media there, too.

00:15:44.400 The Postmillennial that I mentioned, True North, Counter Signal.

00:15:47.480 We were there.

00:15:48.060 Rupa Subramania was there.

00:15:49.860 One or two others.

00:15:50.520 So there was a lot of independent people there.

00:15:51.960 And I think, you know, we hired two bodyguards for our people because we knew Antifa would be there.

00:15:57.480 Our friend Harrison Faulkner from True North was roughed up a little bit because Antifa hates anyone who isn't a propagandist for them.

00:16:05.940 Look at what Rupa said.

00:16:07.740 She had a picture of this guy.

00:16:09.680 She said, approach this guy who is pro-gender ideology and part of the counter-protest to ask questions.

00:16:15.320 Said he wouldn't speak to a journalist who is not CBC or CTV.

00:16:19.860 Well, exactly.

00:16:20.640 By the way, being trans is not the underdog.

00:16:24.420 I mean, it's actually the ultimate establishment ideology.

00:16:28.000 Every government, every flagpole, every corporation, every university, every media outlet is fully in sync.

00:16:34.140 Every brand from Bud Light on down.

00:16:36.460 It's the contrarians, the independents, who are speaking out against it.

00:16:41.140 And, you know, independent journalism has a voice and it's a growing voice.

00:16:45.260 But I bet I know what the front page of the Ottawa Citizen will look like tomorrow and what the CBC and CTV will report tonight.

00:16:52.080 I mean, there's really no need to guess.

00:16:53.560 You've already heard from the journalism professor in charge of ideologically shaping the next generation of reporters for the regime.

00:16:59.940 I don't think I could be wrong, but I don't think you will see a picture of that Muslim lady and her kids stomping on the flags on the front page, even though it's a perfect photo. 0.99

00:17:11.880 It's colorful, cute kids stomping on flags.

00:17:14.840 It's shocking and arresting at the same time.

00:17:18.000 I could be wrong, but I do not think that incredibly telegenic photo will be shown in the mainstream media because it's just too much of a challenge, of a paradox for the woke mindset.

00:17:30.080 Best to pretend it never happened.

00:17:32.380 Best to pretend that wokeism can embrace both Islam and transgenderism. 0.99

00:17:37.080 Best to pretend that it was just a bunch of violent right-wing Christian white guys. 0.98

00:17:45.060 Stay with us for more. 0.89

00:17:57.440 You know, one of the most interesting courses I ever took in the university was called Biopolitics.

00:18:02.900 It was a very controversial class.

00:18:04.080 It was taught by Dr. Tom Flanagan at the University of Calgary.

00:18:06.640 I doubt it would ever be taught these days that it's simply too controversial.

00:18:10.900 In that class, Dr. Flanagan tried to explain certain things that we see in life.

00:18:16.680 Why is it that there are more women in teaching and more men in construction? 1.00

00:18:20.900 Why are there more men in certain kinds of politics or certain at least high levels of politics than women? 1.00

00:18:27.500 Is there a biological reason for any of that?

00:18:30.960 And he dared to say, yes, there is.

00:18:33.560 And I'll sum up the course very briefly.

00:18:36.600 You know, a bell curve, right?

00:18:39.080 The average person is in the middle, but one or two standard deviations out, you have the extremes.

00:18:45.440 And what happens if you have two bell curves that are very close together?

00:18:49.900 The average woman, let's say, and the average man, let's say. 0.95

00:18:54.760 The difference in strength or speed between the average is not that much.

00:19:01.940 In fact, there'd be a fair number of women who are stronger than a fair number of men. 1.00

00:19:07.960 But if you go out one, two, three standard deviations to the absolute strongest person,

00:19:14.480 when you see those two bell curves overlapping, the small difference in the mean has enormous differences at the extreme.

00:19:24.020 By that, I mean an ordinary man might not be much stronger than an ordinary woman. 0.99

00:19:29.400 But if you're talking about the absolute strongest men in the world, well, there would be an enormous number of them you would have to go through before you got to the first strongest women.

00:19:41.500 That's just biopolitics for you.

00:19:44.740 You might not like it, but it's reality.

00:19:46.740 And so in certain sports, when we're talking about elite athletes, not a recreational league, a beer league, but the best of the best, if you have the best of the best women, that's a great contest.

00:20:01.560 But then if you let men in, in the name of transgenderism, simply put, there will be no more women's sport. 1.00

00:20:09.960 At least in those things where men in the median are a little bit stronger because at the edges, it will only be men.

00:20:18.540 That was the course I took 30 years ago in university.

00:20:21.940 And here it is manifested in the pages of the Canadian Powerlifting Union Trans Inclusion Policy.

00:20:30.880 And that's the thing.

00:20:31.640 If we were talking about chess or checkers, there would be no difference between the physicality of men and women. 0.91

00:20:37.580 It's an intellectual game.

00:20:39.540 But if you're talking about powerlifting, well, that is exactly the kind of thing where a man would have an advantage over a woman. 0.98

00:20:47.060 Let me read a few excerpts from this new policy.

00:20:52.160 Individuals should be able to participate in the gender with which they identify and not be subject to requirements for disclosure of personal information.

00:21:02.940 Individuals should not be required to disclose their trans identity or history.

00:21:09.460 So you just have to express that you're a woman.

00:21:12.500 You don't have to prove it.

00:21:14.160 You certainly don't have to be on a surgery or a med.

00:21:19.180 You must, Section 4D says, refer to individuals by their preferred name and pronoun.

00:21:26.640 Now, even if there's a six foot four bloke there, you got to call him ma'am.

00:21:32.940 And here's, I think, the most Orwellian part.

00:21:35.240 Section 3, the purpose of this policy is that all individuals deserve respectful and inclusive environments for participation and facilities in which they feel comfortable and safe.

00:21:47.740 Really?

00:21:48.120 Is it inclusive when men can dominate women's sports and change in their change room? 0.98

00:21:55.100 It's inclusive to everyone except women. 1.00

00:21:59.580 I'm angry about this.

00:22:01.160 One of the reasons is I happen to know someone who is being targeted by these rules.

00:22:06.160 Her name is April Hutchison.

00:22:07.660 She is a real woman and a power lifter. 1.00

00:22:10.420 But she has no chance, despite her training and her strength, to beat the fellas who come in and say, oh, I'm a girl now.

00:22:18.720 April joins us via Skype from London, Ontario.

00:22:21.020 April, welcome back to the show.

00:22:22.680 Have I properly summed up the new trans inclusion policy that now governs your Canadian power lifting union?

00:22:32.080 Yes, sadly, that is the transgender policy. 0.76

00:22:35.020 It sounds absolutely unlimited.

00:22:39.920 Like literally anyone can show up and say, I'm a gal.

00:22:44.160 And this specifically says they do not have to disclose any other personal information, nor should there be any requirement for hormonal therapy or surgery.

00:22:55.340 So it really is that South Park episode where Randy the Macho Man Savage, that wrestler with a beard, comes in and talks like that.

00:23:04.800 And you just say you're a girl and you can compete.

00:23:08.600 That's not even sport anymore.

00:23:11.520 No, well, that's exactly what happened, I think, about two months ago.

00:23:14.980 I'm not sure if you saw that, Ezra.

00:23:16.520 Avi Silverberg, he's a ex-team candidate coach, a terrific power lifter.

00:23:23.540 He actually was trying to make a mockery and just to show how weak the policy is, he actually just rolled in into the province of Alberta and identified as a female.

00:23:34.140 No questions asked, just walked in and he crushed the bench record, taking it away from a trans-identifying athlete. 1.00

00:23:43.540 How crazy does that get?

00:23:44.800 Well, you know, I really, I did see that and there was a, there was a playful sense of humor there driving home a more serious point.

00:23:55.000 He acknowledged, I think, that he was doing it to prove a point.

00:23:58.940 But in terms of him winning and pushing down real women who were competing, the result would be the same. 0.64

00:24:06.900 So if he had been deadly serious, April, he would have been allowed to do that.

00:24:11.460 And as you say, he beat another trans athlete.

00:24:14.720 I mean, Silverberg isn't trans, he's just a guy. 0.99

00:24:19.020 What did they do?

00:24:20.140 Did they throw out his, when did they say, well, I guess he's a gal now. 0.85

00:24:25.720 Like, what did they do with his, I'm not going to call it a practical joke, his demonstration to prove a point.

00:24:30.680 What did they do with that?

00:24:31.560 Did they throw it out?

00:24:32.200 Well, that's the funny part is people, I was just talking to my friend today who was on the CPU and we were laughing about it because we said, well, when Avi did that, when Avi went in and literally just identified as a female, people thought that was just, oh my God, what an insult.

00:24:49.760 How could he do that?

00:24:50.980 That's horrible.

00:24:51.960 That needs to get thrown out.

00:24:53.080 And we're like, he's not doing anything different than what the other biological male did.

00:24:58.520 So I don't see, it's very, as you can see, just the way I've been targeted, it's very just one-sided, right?

00:25:05.120 You can't express anything.

00:25:07.040 You're either called a bigot or transphobic.

00:25:09.600 And what he did was appalling. 0.53

00:25:11.180 It's just, it's crazy.

00:25:12.260 You know, the part that I hate the most about these rules is the lie that the CPU, that's the Canadian Powerlifting Union, believes that all individuals deserve respectful and inclusive environments.

00:25:24.180 It's not inclusive for women if women have to compete against men. 0.98

00:25:27.860 That was my whole point about the two bell curves.

00:25:30.040 And I'm not sure if I got too statistics oriented there.

00:25:32.660 But the fact is, Avi Silberberg, who sounds like he's got a great sense of humor, I'm guessing he is not the strongest power lifter in the men's category.

00:25:42.060 He might not even be in the top hundred.

00:25:44.320 But that's my point, is because small differences in the average, at the absolute top ends of performance, Avi Silberberg is going to be better than even the best woman, just because that's how it is.

00:26:00.300 And the fact that the Canadian Powerlifting Union claims that they respect inclusive spaces for women, that's a damnable lie.

00:26:11.540 They are driving women out, whether it's Avi Silberberg in a prank or some trans athlete who's, quote, serious about it.

00:26:18.780 They are ending women's sport.

00:26:20.860 Yeah, literally, they are, like, they are erasing, they are helping erase women's sports. 1.00

00:26:27.780 I was just, you know, I'm talking about that today.

00:26:30.640 Like, there's so many women, like, there's women on the ethics board and on the CPU board that are making these decisions and making these policies. 1.00

00:26:40.140 Like I shared earlier today, there's photos of them on social media stating that they support trans lifters.

00:26:48.620 And I just don't understand how they don't see how they are actually taking away not only our safe spaces, but they are taking away, helping take away, like, our records, our podium spots.

00:26:58.620 Like, those records that the trans identifying athlete have in Alberta, they'll never be broken by a woman. 0.88

00:27:04.500 Another man will have to break those because I do think he's going for the national deadlift record at Provincials, I think, next month.

00:27:13.320 They will never be broken by a woman. 0.98

00:27:14.860 So, I don't know if someday, you know, we conquer and they actually do stick up for women and they actually do change the policy.

00:27:24.460 I do hope those records are stripped from that individual, but we'll see.

00:27:28.780 We just have to keep fighting and bringing attention to it.

00:27:31.400 Yeah.

00:27:33.480 Yeah, I mean, it's so obvious to me, the podium.

00:27:36.320 I mean, typically there's first, second, and third, although there are some other podiums that have more placings on them.

00:27:40.980 I mean, will it take a man, a trans woman, to win first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth?

00:27:49.640 Like, at what point do we say, hey, fellas, there are no more women in the women's side anymore. 1.00

00:27:58.300 It's all the losers from the guy's side who couldn't beat the guys.

00:28:03.180 So, they've come here as some sort of a consolation prize. 0.89

00:28:06.180 Like, seriously, if the top ten people in the next women's contest are all trans, what is even the point anymore? 1.00

00:28:18.880 Why don't you just call it the trans women? 1.00

00:28:21.480 Because there will soon be, like, there are enough ne'er-do-well, jealous, publicity-seeking, confused men out there

00:28:30.680 that you will fill all the slots that way, whether it's in one year or five years.

00:28:36.520 There will be, like, it's not a hypothetical.

00:28:39.960 You can always find some loser on the men's side who, whether it's as a prank or seriously, 0.93

00:28:47.300 is just going to take that glory away from a woman. 1.00

00:28:49.600 I'm certain of it.

00:28:51.520 Yeah, well, that's the thing with this particular lifter.

00:28:54.960 They could easily go into a different federation.

00:28:57.300 There is one in Canada called the CPL, and they actually, if you are trans-identifying,

00:29:02.820 you have to compete in the open category or against the non-tested people.

00:29:08.860 So, people that are on performance-enhancing drugs, steroids.

00:29:12.900 So, I mean, that's a little bit better than what we have.

00:29:15.400 CPU has the weakest non-existent policy I've ever, that any of these women, like Marshy, Smith, or Kim Jones, 1.00

00:29:23.120 anyone has ever seen.

00:29:24.680 Yeah.

00:29:25.040 It's quite embarrassing.

00:29:26.180 I read it today.

00:29:28.500 I was shocked.

00:29:29.740 I was shocked by it.

00:29:31.120 Hey, I heard that you yourself have been targeted because you've been speaking out.

00:29:36.500 Is that true?

00:29:38.600 Yeah.

00:29:39.180 So, since the last time we talked, Ezra, I received a written warning back in February about,

00:29:46.360 again, it was anonymous complaints.

00:29:48.620 Everything that they've threatened me with has been anonymous,

00:29:51.660 and they haven't actually given me any proof or details.

00:29:54.740 So, it's, I'm kind of like, it's very confusing because I have no idea really what I did in the beginning.

00:30:01.160 But the last letter that I received last week was that, you know, I can't wear my Team Canada uniform and speak on behalf of the CPU, which I never did or have done.

00:30:13.100 And they also told me that I have to use pronouns and basically that the groups that I'm associated with, like Marshy and Icons and all these groups are all transphobic.

00:30:25.240 So, and if I don't listen to them or if I don't get back to them and reply to them, they will suspend me.

00:30:32.180 So, I won't be able to be on the team any longer, basically, if I don't respond.

00:30:37.220 And that's the Canadian team, the national team?

00:30:40.500 Yeah.

00:30:40.760 So, I mean, the Team Canada this year, I'll be going to North Americans, the championships in August.

00:30:46.460 And so, they've threatened to take that away from me if I don't basically obey what they say.

00:30:53.280 Well, I can only imagine how terrible that is.

00:30:55.940 They've really put you over a barrel, your long-time ambition, hard work, training, and your dreams to be a success at a large level like that.

00:31:05.240 And on the other hand, your psychological and logical and emotional identity, they're forcing you to speak what you consider a lie.

00:31:15.480 These are men.

00:31:16.660 The idea that they're forcing you to use their language, I mean, that's literally in here.

00:31:22.380 I don't want to have the discussion on TV with you, but if you are in need of a lawyer to assist you in replying to Team Canada,

00:31:32.140 one of the things we do, April, is we often crowdfund lawyers for people who are picked on by institutions that are illiberal.

00:31:39.700 And that's what's happening to you.

00:31:40.760 So, I don't propose to have that conversation on the air right now, but maybe afterwards I'll just zip you an email or a phone call.

00:31:48.120 Because I can only imagine that if they take government money or if they're in any way a government organization,

00:31:56.140 and I'd have to study that more, if they're saying to you, you must call a man a woman, 0.74

00:32:03.400 you must say words you don't believe in that are contrary to your conscience,

00:32:07.700 that sounds like it's got to be a violation of your civil rights, your charter rights, your freedom of thought,

00:32:14.020 your freedom of perhaps your freedom of religion.

00:32:16.980 And it strikes me as a violation of your personal dignity.

00:32:21.900 And I just think lawyering up, maybe that's the only language that these people understand.

00:32:28.700 I think part of it is court of public opinion, April.

00:32:31.360 I think part of it is shaming these folks.

00:32:33.920 But another part of it is court of law.

00:32:36.320 And maybe they'd smarten up if someone said, I'm going to take you before a judge.

00:32:40.820 Anyway, so I can't.

00:32:42.260 That's my style.

00:32:43.120 I like to fight battles and maybe, I mean, I know you're very courageous to talk about it, but maybe.

00:32:50.200 Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I was talking to Marshy Smith and she actually set up a website called I Stand with April.

00:32:58.040 It's kind of like what Riley Gaines is doing.

00:33:00.380 And we're trying to fund money and take donations for lawyer fees and attorneys and stuff like that.

00:33:06.760 So, I mean, we talk about the psychological damage and abuse.

00:33:11.040 I mean, trust me, some days I cry and I'm just like, wow, like, I, I guess what hurts is that, yeah, like they're trying to control my speech and I, I will not call a man a woman and I will not call a woman a man.

00:33:23.880 And, um, the day I do that, then I might as well just give up my fight because that's what they're trying to do is control.

00:33:29.560 And for me to say that, because they'll be like, aha, I got you.

00:33:32.840 Like, you know, it's my personal belief and I'll never back down on that.

00:33:36.360 I'll never, ever use pronouns.

00:33:38.540 So, well, good for you and I support you and I'll, I'll get that, uh, website URL from you and we'll put it on the bottom of the screen here.

00:33:46.720 Um, you know, I met, uh, I met a former female prisoner. 0.99

00:33:51.680 Maybe, you know, who I'm talking about, uh, Heather is her name and she was in prison in Canada and they put self-identifying men who said, no, no, I'm a woman now in the same prison as these women.

00:34:03.520 I don't know if you know the story and if these prisoners did not call these men miss or, or ma'am.

00:34:13.540 Now it's one thing, I mean, what can they actually do to you?

00:34:15.760 Well, they can destroy your dream and destroy your career.

00:34:17.840 But if, imagine being a prisoner in a cage and if you don't do what the wardens say, they can punish you in so many ways.

00:34:25.560 Plus you're physically at risk of being assaulted from these men and it can be held against you for your parole or probation.

00:34:31.300 So that same sort of totalitarian authoritarian order that you, April Hutchison, must say that these are women. 1.00

00:34:40.120 Imagine how much worse it is for, uh, a woman in a woman's prison being forced to call a man a woman. 0.77

00:34:47.000 It's, this is terrible.

00:34:48.860 And I, I wish you all good luck.

00:34:51.120 I want to keep in touch with you on this.

00:34:52.820 If you need support, it sounds like you do have some folks helping you on the legal side, so I won't interfere.

00:34:57.960 But, uh, if you need any help, if you want to talk about it in public, if you want to spread the word, come back anytime.

00:35:04.860 Because I think this is much bigger than just you, April.

00:35:08.000 I think many women at all levels of sport, many moms and dads, a lot of people care about this.

00:35:15.580 So you're, you're being brave for everyone.

00:35:17.220 You're not just being brave for yourself.

00:35:18.560 You're being brave for everyone.

00:35:19.940 I'll say, I'm just going to keep fighting.

00:35:21.420 I have a good group of women and I mean, not just women, but men behind me. 0.94

00:35:25.660 And, um, yeah, every day, you know, something else pops up and I just have to be strong.

00:35:31.360 And I said today, like, you know what, at least I can go to bed and have a good sleep.

00:35:35.760 Cause I know I'm speaking the truth and being a good person.

00:35:38.280 And, you know, the truth will set you free and hopefully someday people will, will open their eyes.

00:35:44.620 Well, you're a woman of strong muscles and strong character. 0.97

00:35:49.380 Thank you.

00:35:50.200 April, great to talk with you.

00:35:51.300 Good luck.

00:35:52.260 Likewise.

00:35:52.780 Thank you, sir.

00:35:53.520 All right.

00:35:53.840 There you have it.

00:35:54.400 April Hutchison talking about the Canadian power lifting union and their insane new trans 1.00

00:36:00.140 inclusion policy.

00:36:01.860 I hope she wins.

00:36:03.420 Stay with us.

00:36:04.060 More ahead.

00:36:16.200 Hey, welcome back.

00:36:17.020 Let's get your letters to me.

00:36:18.360 Jacques 9190 says Crimea, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhia all wanted to return to Russia.

00:36:25.500 What I understand, they were majority Russian speakers.

00:36:28.000 They were beset upon by Azov.

00:36:30.080 Russia came to their defense.

00:36:31.160 Nikita Khrushchev's Russia gave Russian Crimea to the Soviet Ukraine in 1954.

00:36:34.920 Listen, there's so much history here and I don't know all of it.

00:36:38.180 But it is a problem in Ukraine that you have a region that ethnically and linguistically is more Russian.

00:36:49.880 And there's a lot of historic reasons for that.

00:36:52.820 I mean, you saw this in other Soviet socialist republics.

00:36:55.660 The attempt to Russify the other states to make sure that demographically, China does that to this day. 0.97

00:37:03.000 They send Han Chinese people by ethnicity into what was used to be called Tibet to dilute the Tibetans politically and demographically. 0.80

00:37:13.140 It's just what happens.

00:37:14.500 And one of the scary things that Professor Mearsheimer was talking about was he believes a peaceful but unhappy ethnic cleansing is about to take place where all the Ukrainian ethnic people will leave that region and all the Russian ethnic people will leave the rest of Ukraine.

00:37:32.740 I think he's right on that.

00:37:35.520 I just don't know enough of the history.

00:37:37.300 I do know that the ethnic Russians in Ukraine have claimed with some proof, I think, that they were discriminated against, including violently.

00:37:48.860 And that's what the Minsk Accords were trying to fix.

00:37:51.260 Look, I'm not an expert on this.

00:37:53.040 What I was pleased to show you yesterday is the contrarian take of a real expert.

00:37:58.380 And it was important to me that Professor Mearsheimer has a lifelong track record of wanting Ukraine to be strong and free.

00:38:06.800 He was the one who said, don't give up your nukes.

00:38:09.340 Don't give up your nukes.

00:38:10.960 Imagine if Ukraine had nukes today.

00:38:12.420 There is no chance that Putin would have invaded.

00:38:15.580 I mean, that's obvious, isn't it?

00:38:16.660 W. Oak writes, Biden's family and other politicians, plus family members' involvement in criminal financial dealings in the Ukraine, run very deep.

00:38:26.500 EU wants to break up Russia to steal resources.

00:38:29.000 No different to Hitler. 0.98

00:38:30.000 Well, it definitely is different to Hitler because Hitler was violent, totalitarian, murdered millions, not only in war, but civilians, including obviously the Jews. 0.75

00:38:44.440 Hitler was very hostile to ethnic Slavs, to use a term.

00:38:51.160 So there is a very important difference to Hitler. 0.73

00:38:53.100 But it is true there are people in the West who want to do things to Russia that would only happen, that would be an existential threat to Russia.

00:39:04.760 The talk in the West of regime change, of extirpating Russia from Crimea, of economically devastating the country,

00:39:14.260 the language that's being bandied about by some in NATO and the West, is so extreme that were those people to get their way, I really think we would be in a nuclear war.

00:39:28.180 The very reason why Russia would never invade a nuclear-armed Ukraine is the reason why NATO can never have a real fight with Russia.

00:39:38.060 They've got nukes.

00:39:40.200 Don't do it.

00:39:41.900 Of course, as Meersheimer says, the real victims in all this have been the Ukrainian people. 0.98

00:39:47.800 How many have died?

00:39:49.560 You know, I saw that clip the other day of Lindsey Graham talking about killing Russians is the best money he ever spent.

00:39:55.560 That you don't want people talking like that.

00:39:57.800 Even if a country is your enemy, you don't want to talk like that.

00:40:00.800 It's dehumanizing.

00:40:02.800 Well, I'm glad people paid so much attention to that speech.

00:40:07.080 It was very interesting to me to watch it.

00:40:08.460 I'm glad I had a chance to share it with you.

00:40:09.860 That's it for today.

00:40:12.540 What a busy week.

00:40:13.800 Oh, we've got some interesting stories coming out of Ottawa.

00:40:16.600 We'll have more on that transgenderism story.

00:40:19.340 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters and around the world, to you at home, good night.

00:40:25.120 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:40:26.120 We'll be right back.

00:40:33.860 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - June 10, 2023

EZRA LEVANT ｜ A scuffle breaks out at duelling rallies over transgenderism. But there's a surprising wrinkle to it

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