Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Alberta Premier Danielle Smith brings in a sensitive, sensible policy on transgenderism — and the left goes nuts

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, going to talk about Danielle Smith's announcement on a new transgenderism policy.

00:00:04.220 Oh, my God, does it have the NDP and liberals apoplectic, which tells me they're on the right track.

00:00:10.680 I'll have her announcement and the reaction to it.

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00:00:47.280 Tonight, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith brings in a sensitive, sensible policy on transgenderism.

00:00:53.840 And the liberals go nuts.

00:00:56.760 It's February 1st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:00.000 Transgenderism, it's stormed into the public consciousness just in the last 10 years. 0.98

00:01:13.500 It's about queerness, queerness in general, not just sexuality.

00:01:18.600 And what I mean by queerness is a rebellion and normalizing abnormality for its own sake. 0.74

00:01:25.520 That's literally what the word queer means.

00:01:27.560 And I want to read to you from 1984.

00:01:30.360 As you know, we republished George Orwell's classic.

00:01:34.480 It's in the public domain, so we published it with 30 new illustrations.

00:01:38.560 You can buy your copy at the website buy1984.com.

00:01:42.460 I'm going to read from you two pages from the book, which back then when Orwell wrote this more than 70 years ago, he couldn't have fathomed normalizing transgenderism.

00:01:54.900 But what he talks about here is queer math, in a way. 0.66

00:02:00.980 You'll understand in a moment.

00:02:02.360 Let me read to you a little bit from 1984.

00:02:04.940 Just two pages.

00:02:06.080 O'Brien held up his left hand, it backward to Winston, with the thumb hidden and four fingers extended.

00:02:13.880 How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?

00:02:17.360 Four.

00:02:17.960 And if the party says it is not four, but five, then how many?

00:02:23.540 Four.

00:02:24.780 The word ended in a gasp of pain.

00:02:27.840 The needle of the dial had shot up to 55.

00:02:30.040 The sweat had sprung out all over Winston's body.

00:02:32.240 The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans, which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop.

00:02:37.320 O'Brien watched him.

00:02:38.500 The four fingers still extended.

00:02:39.820 He drew back the lever.

00:02:41.180 This time the pain was only slightly east.

00:02:43.260 How many fingers, Winston?

00:02:46.900 Four.

00:02:47.340 The needle went up to 60.

00:02:49.540 How many fingers, Winston?

00:02:51.340 Four.

00:02:51.960 Four.

00:02:52.400 What else can I say?

00:02:53.460 Four.

00:02:54.260 The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it.

00:02:56.540 The heavy, stern face and the four fingers filled his vision.

00:02:59.740 The fingers stood up before his eyes like pillars, enormous, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably four.

00:03:07.100 How many fingers, Winston?

00:03:08.680 Four.

00:03:09.120 Stop it.

00:03:09.580 Stop it.

00:03:09.940 How can you go on?

00:03:10.840 Four.

00:03:11.300 Four.

00:03:11.740 How many fingers, Winston?

00:03:13.020 Five.

00:03:13.560 Five.

00:03:14.120 Five.

00:03:14.600 No, Winston, that is no use.

00:03:16.080 You're lying.

00:03:16.540 You still think there are four.

00:03:18.060 How many fingers, please?

00:03:19.680 Four.

00:03:20.060 Five.

00:03:20.360 Four.

00:03:20.660 Anything you like.

00:03:21.420 Only stop it.

00:03:22.160 Stop the pain.

00:03:24.300 And it goes on.

00:03:26.480 That's what transgenderism is about. 1.00

00:03:29.580 Transgenderism is about making you look at a man and making you say it's a woman. 1.00

00:03:35.780 That is what the phrase queer refers to.

00:03:38.680 Queer can refer to sexuality, but it can refer to anything.

00:03:42.680 It can refer to math.

00:03:44.000 It can refer to history.

00:03:45.700 Queering math.

00:03:46.540 Queering history. 0.90

00:03:47.460 They'll tell you two plus two is five.

00:03:49.400 They really will.

00:03:51.380 That's what transgenderism is about. 1.00

00:03:53.960 Well, yesterday, Danielle Smith weighed in on the subject.

00:03:58.880 She released a video talking about her province's new policy.

00:04:02.980 It is yet to be put into the form of legislation or regulation.

00:04:07.280 But here, let's watch it together.

00:04:08.940 I'm going to play the whole thing, and then we'll talk about it afterwards, including the

00:04:12.860 reaction to it.

00:04:14.020 Take a look.

00:04:14.520 My fellow Albertans, today I wish to address a very sensitive issue involving our children

00:04:19.720 and gender identity.

00:04:21.220 This is not always an easy conversation to have.

00:04:24.060 I strongly believe that we as a society must support and reach out with kindness and inclusion

00:04:28.100 to those who identify as transgender and work to eliminate the discrimination they often

00:04:33.200 experience in their lives.

00:04:34.960 As premier of this province, I want every Albertan that identifies as transgender to know

00:04:39.100 I care deeply about you, and I accept you as you are.

00:04:42.100 As long as I leave this province, I will ensure you are supported and your rights are protected.

00:04:47.520 In the case of children aged 17 and under who identify as transgender, I also want you

00:04:52.480 to know that you are loved and supported as you work through your often changing emotions,

00:04:56.760 feelings, and beliefs.

00:04:58.420 As we all know, children and teenagers are in a constant state of biological, social, emotional,

00:05:05.100 and sexual development and change.

00:05:06.940 They're constantly learning about themselves, trying new things, dealing with biological changes

00:05:11.640 and trying to understand a wide range of new thoughts and feelings.

00:05:14.920 It's a very complicated time.

00:05:17.120 In my view, one of the greatest responsibilities we as parents, teachers, and community leaders

00:05:21.800 have is to preserve for our children the right to grow and develop into mature adults so

00:05:27.160 that they are better prepared to make the most impactful decisions affecting their lives.

00:05:30.960 decisions like choosing a career, a partner, raising children, their interaction with legal drugs

00:05:37.360 like alcohol and cannabis, their sexual activities and preferences, and many other adult choices.

00:05:43.100 It is my view that list of adult choices includes deciding whether or not to alter one's biological

00:05:48.640 sex.

00:05:49.680 Making permanent and irreversible decisions regarding one's biological sex while still a youth

00:05:54.900 can severely limit that child's choices in the future.

00:05:58.660 Prematurely encouraging or enabling children to alter their very biology or natural growth,

00:06:04.180 no matter how well-intentioned and sincere, poses a risk to that child's future that I,

00:06:09.160 as Premier, am not comfortable with permitting in our province.

00:06:12.280 Similarly, the risks and unfair advantages that young women and girls are experiencing when

00:06:16.640 competing with biologically stronger transgender females in sporting competitions have also grown

00:06:22.180 too high. After much discussion, the Government Caucus and I have therefore decided to implement

00:06:27.440 the following policies and guidelines as it relates to transgender minors and athletes, including

00:06:32.640 additional supports to assist transgender adults to secure the health care they need,

00:06:37.380 and the counselling support for youth identifying as transgender to ensure they can successfully

00:06:42.240 work their way through their complex feelings and emotions as they grow to adulthood.

00:06:46.960 First, on the issue of gender reassignment treatments for minors.

00:06:50.840 For minors age 17 and under, top and bottom gender reassignment surgeries will not be permitted.

00:06:58.380 For children age 15 and under, puberty blockers and hormone therapies for the purpose of gender

00:07:03.940 reassignment or affirmation will also not be permitted, with the exception of those who've already

00:07:08.960 commenced their treatment at this time. Minors age 16 and 17 will be permitted to commence hormone

00:07:15.120 therapies for gender reassignment and affirmation purposes, so long as they are deemed mature enough to

00:07:20.100 make these decisions and have parental physician and psychologist approval. For transgender adults,

00:07:25.400 our Government is currently working to attract one or more medical professionals to practice in Alberta

00:07:30.540 who specialize in transgender surgery to ensure those individuals transitioning have access to an expert

00:07:37.000 in Alberta to assist them with their extremely unique and complex medical needs, rather than going to Quebec,

00:07:43.600 which is now the practice. We will also be building a private registry of medical professionals who specialize

00:07:48.860 in this field to better support the lifelong healthcare needs of transgender Albertans, including access to needed

00:07:54.880 hormones and surgery aftercare. When it comes to classroom instruction on subject matter involving gender identity,

00:08:00.700 sexual orientation, or human sexuality, we will be requiring parental notification and an opt-in requirement for each

00:08:07.520 instance a teacher intends to give formal instruction on these subjects. Furthermore, all third-party resource materials

00:08:15.120 or presentations related to gender identity, sexual orientation, or human sexuality in our K-12 school system

00:08:22.000 will need to be pre-approved by the Ministry of Education to ensure the materials are age-appropriate.

00:08:27.780 For a minor age 15 and under, the Government will require parental notification and consent for a school to alter the name or pronouns of a child.

00:08:36.860 For 16 and 17-year-olds who choose to alter their name or pronouns, parents do not need to give consent, but they must be notified.

00:08:44.800 We know that nearly all parents, even those who may disagree with the decision of their children,

00:08:49.360 will love and care for their children no matter what choices they make.

00:08:53.100 However, in the handful of rare situations where one or both of the parents reject or become abusive to a child

00:08:58.880 who identifies as transgender, we have child protection laws that will be strictly enforced.

00:09:04.180 The Government is also designing a pilot project to provide appropriate counselling services to support parents and youth

00:09:11.300 identifying as transgender to work through the unique challenges these families face.

00:09:15.220 We encourage all teachers, parents, classmates, and youth volunteers to be on the watch for any instances of bullying of youth or children for any reason

00:09:25.200 so adults can assist with putting a stop to it the moment it is detected.

00:09:29.380 Our Government also needs to deal with the emerging issue of the unfair disadvantages that young women and girls are experiencing

00:09:35.160 when competing with biologically stronger transgender female athletes in sporting competitions.

00:09:40.340 I strongly believe that those who were born male but have transitioned to or identify as female are owed the opportunity to meaningfully participate in sport.

00:09:51.160 However, there are obvious biological realities that give transgender female athletes a massive competitive advantage over women and girls.

00:09:58.540 It is not beneficial for those women, including those who are transgender, for this divisive and sometimes dangerous situation to continue.

00:10:08.280 That is why the Alberta Government will work with sporting organisations active in our province to ensure that women and girls have the choice to compete

00:10:14.800 in a women's only division in athletic competitions and are not forced to compete against biologically stronger transgender female athletes.

00:10:22.780 We will also work with those same sporting organisations to ensure transgender athletes are able to meaningfully participate in the sport of their choice

00:10:30.680 through the expansion of co-ed or other gender neutral divisions for athletic competitions.

00:10:35.760 I understand how controversial and divisive discussions on topics of sexuality and gender can be, especially when those conversations involve children.

00:10:45.840 I would therefore ask that as we work through implementing these policies, that we, as adults in this province, do all we can to depoliticise the discussion

00:10:54.740 and focus on the wellbeing of the children involved, whether they are young people identifying as transgender

00:11:00.160 or who find themselves attracted to those of the same sex, or are simply trying to understand the complex and often changing emotions and feelings of being teenagers.

00:11:09.560 They all need our unconditional love and support.

00:11:12.680 And it's to those children and teens that I want to say just how much we love you and support you in becoming the person you want to be.

00:11:19.240 You never have to feel alone or isolated.

00:11:21.560 If you do, reach out to your parents, family members, teachers, a coach, or other trusted adults and ask for support.

00:11:29.000 We, as the adults in your life, will be there for you to make sure you know just how amazing and precious you are.

00:11:36.520 Thank you for listening.

00:11:37.880 So that's her presentation in full.

00:11:40.300 I thought it was very full of heart, full of sensitivity and compassion, and I thought it was quite balanced.

00:11:47.100 In fact, some will likely argue that Danielle Smith is aiding and abetting transgenderism 1.00

00:11:52.560 by looking to establish doctors in Alberta to complete sex change transitions just for adults.

00:12:02.520 What she's doing is saying that children won't be allowed to make those decisions in Alberta at all,

00:12:09.300 and in some cases in Alberta without their parents' support.

00:12:12.920 And it makes sense.

00:12:14.840 Try getting a tattoo if you're under 18.

00:12:17.200 You can't.

00:12:17.820 Try buying alcohol.

00:12:19.500 Try voting.

00:12:20.580 Try doing many things.

00:12:21.980 You simply aren't allowed to do it before you're 18 because the government knows that you're not a fully formed grown-up.

00:12:28.020 You're not as thoughtful and mentally experienced as possible.

00:12:32.560 You're subject to persuasion and trickery.

00:12:36.060 There's a saying, taking candy from a baby.

00:12:38.920 It's because the baby doesn't know, isn't savvy enough to push back.

00:12:42.980 I thought that that was a very balanced approach, and what was interesting was the discussion of bullying.

00:12:48.520 There's an enormous amount of bullying going on, but the bullying I see quite often is from transgender women against anyone else who disputes them. 1.00

00:12:58.780 Against women, for example. 0.96

00:13:01.040 I mean, following David Menzies' coverage of trans craziness around the country, and what's so shocking to me every single time is that moms and dads of girls are too terrified to stand up to these transgender bullies. 0.98

00:13:17.820 Terrified not so much for physical punishment, but because they'll be deemed transphobic and marginalized and canceled.

00:13:24.820 What Danielle Smith here is really doing is saying, you don't have to worry about that anymore.

00:13:29.300 I'm going to be the bad guy for you, and I'm going to say there's no more transgenderism in sports. 1.00

00:13:34.620 You can have women's sports and men's sports, and for people who are transgender, they can have their own third sports league, but they're not going to be able to smash women to pieces anymore. 1.00

00:13:44.160 Now, of course, the reaction from the left—in my opening, I said liberals.

00:13:48.780 It's not even liberals.

00:13:49.560 It's the woke left.

00:13:51.020 Here's Rachel Notley, who has recently announced her departure as the NDP leader, but she's still the NDP leader for now.

00:13:59.840 I have a couple of clips from her and a couple from the federal liberals.

00:14:03.480 She says that this is clearly unconstitutional.

00:14:06.720 Here, take a look.

00:14:07.480 There's no question that this horrifying policy will be tested and rejected by our courts.

00:14:12.440 As such, the Premier will likely consider using the notwithstanding clause, which is yet another conservative attack on our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:14:23.340 You know, if the courts are telling you that your policy is attacking the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the rights of individual citizens, that should be a clear indication that you're not doing the right thing.

00:14:34.540 We, in the NDP, believe that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is an essential, foundational document for all Canadians, and that human rights must be protected, no matter whose human rights and what human rights we are focused on preserving.

00:14:52.640 I'm not here to suggest that the federal government has to rule to come in and yell at health ministers.

00:15:00.460 Health ministers provincially have the obligation under the Constitution to administer their programs in alignment with our Charter.

00:15:11.240 So, we don't need the federal government to tell us whether this is right or wrong.

00:15:15.180 What we need is for a health minister to administer their services legally.

00:15:20.980 And what I'm saying here is that I think we will probably find that we're moving outside of that.

00:15:26.400 Is this policy going to result, you think, in more attempted suicides, more marginalization of transgender youth, and more discrimination?

00:15:36.100 I'm so deeply, deeply concerned for what this means for transgendered and other marginalized youth within the queer community.

00:15:45.500 We know that houseless children disproportionately come from those communities because the relationships with their families have broken down. 0.99

00:15:58.960 I was shocked and really angry.

00:16:04.540 And I have to tell you, it's hard to get me angry at Daniel Smith these days because every day is a day.

00:16:10.320 But when she suggested that the solution for a child who was rejected by their parents was to find support through our child protection services, I almost leaped through the computer.

00:16:25.820 You know, I know a little something about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:16:28.980 I've read it probably 50 times.

00:16:31.400 Section 33 is called the Notwithstanding Clause, which basically, as the courts say, it's a dialogue between the courts and the legislature.

00:16:37.780 And the courts can say something's unconstitutional, but the legislator can say, well, thanks for that.

00:16:44.400 But in this one case, we'll pass the law notwithstanding that the court says it's unconstitutional.

00:16:49.740 It's Section 33 of the Charter.

00:16:52.240 I don't know if Rachel Notley's actually read the Charter because how can using Section 33 of the Charter be against the Charter?

00:16:59.420 It makes no sense.

00:17:00.260 I think she may be right that Danielle Smith may have to use the Notwithstanding Clause to stop meddling unaccountable judges from overturning her. 1.00

00:17:10.260 That may well be the case.

00:17:11.740 But that's certainly not illegal.

00:17:13.440 In fact, it is the essential condition upon which the Charter was turned into our constitutional document.

00:17:19.820 Do you notice that one journalist who asked the question, will this cause more suicides?

00:17:24.640 That's emotional blackmail. 0.97

00:17:26.480 If you don't let these kids cut off their body parts, they'll commit suicide. 0.97

00:17:31.360 No, it's actually the opposite way around. 0.54

00:17:32.880 I should dig up the study.

00:17:34.360 I remember doing a show on it a couple of years ago that people, young, confused teens especially, if they go through with the drug therapy, and especially, God forbid, if they go through with the surgery, cutting off their breasts or their genitals,

00:17:51.440 their likelihood to commit suicide goes up because if they're emotionally troubled, mutilating your body, pumping yourself full of drugs, and cutting off your body parts will not make it better, even if some doctors and activists say so.

00:18:08.720 And that's just emotional blackmail, and it's BS.

00:18:13.140 I think that you can see that it's the media, political, industrial complex that is pushing transgenderism, not severely normal folks, not parents. 0.73

00:18:24.300 Here's the second clip of Rachel Notley.

00:18:25.860 Take a look.

00:18:26.500 I'm very troubled by what they're talking about.

00:18:30.400 There are complex issues in there, but they have reached in to an area that is broad and complicated around ensuring that a whole range of medical interventions are managed in a way on a sport-by-sport basis that ensures competitiveness.

00:18:50.960 They've reached in and pulled out one example and lifted it up as the dog whistle that this is really meant to be.

00:18:57.840 And so it's very inconsistent.

00:19:00.840 And the starting point for me is that a trans woman is a woman, and a trans man is a man.

00:19:09.860 And this is an issue that Danielle Smith is pursuing because of extremist politics, not because there's a massive call for it amongst Albertans right now, I can tell you that.

00:19:26.600 I really believe that this push is the approach to the sports issue is, as I said, it's not even broad-based and thoughtful.

00:19:36.620 It is very targeted and irrational in its targeting.

00:19:40.420 It doesn't even make sense.

00:19:41.380 So what it is, is it's about pandering to the most extremist element of what remains of the Conservative Party in Alberta.

00:19:52.380 That's what that's about.

00:19:53.360 I don't know what she meant by the sports example is extreme.

00:19:57.200 If you've been watching David Menzies' coverage or any other coverage of transgenderism in sports, it's the men who often aren't on meds or haven't cut off their body parts who are just competing to beat up women, to beat them. 0.97

00:20:11.440 Second-rate men figured out they can win contests if they call themselves a girl. 0.85

00:20:15.840 And that's unfair, it's unsportsmanlike, it's cheating, but it's what I talked about when I read that excerpt from 1984.

00:20:23.680 And that's what Rachel Notley herself said, a trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man.

00:20:32.140 No, it's four fingers.

00:20:34.700 No matter how you punish Winston Smith, four fingers is still four fingers.

00:20:39.920 The whole purpose of transgenderism is to get you to say four fingers is five fingers or three fingers or whatever they say. 1.00

00:20:47.080 By the way, you know who's extreme on this?

00:20:50.940 Rachel Notley in the media.

00:20:52.700 Here's a poll that Angus Reid did a few months ago when New Brunswick was taking similar baby steps towards giving parents information about what's going on with their kids.

00:21:03.140 And if you can see, they polled Alberta too.

00:21:06.000 88% of Albertans want informed consent for this sort of thing.

00:21:10.800 88% can you tell me anything else that 80% of the population agrees on?

00:21:18.920 It took Justin Trudeau's liberals a day to figure out what to do.

00:21:22.820 They didn't respond last night.

00:21:24.420 I was thinking they weren't going to dig in on this because it's such an extreme position to be against what Danielle Smith said.

00:21:31.220 I mean, really, she was full of so much love towards transgender kids.

00:21:35.600 All she was saying is you can't do irrevocable surgeries to yourself till you're 18.

00:21:42.240 You can't get on these body and mind-changing drugs till you're 16.

00:21:47.700 And by the way, we're going to include your parents in it.

00:21:50.720 Imagine attacking that.

00:21:52.880 Here's Arif Varani, the new justice minister, who said that what you just saw there was targeting and intimidating trans people.

00:22:01.580 Really?

00:22:02.000 Take a look at him.

00:22:02.800 I could just touch on the Alberta point.

00:22:04.180 I would say also that one needs to reflect on this as a parent.

00:22:07.960 I'm a dad.

00:22:08.760 Mark's a dad.

00:22:09.840 Parents have these conversations all the time with children.

00:22:12.580 They need to be able to have those conversations with children.

00:22:15.000 Sometimes children don't feel empowered to have those conversations.

00:22:18.300 That's a small amount of children around the country, even smaller amounts in Alberta.

00:22:22.380 I think actually targeting that small minority for some political purpose in Alberta, as it seems that the premier is doing,

00:22:29.160 is not becoming of her office and is, in fact, actually targeting and perhaps even demonizing those children.

00:22:35.220 We're not talking about their exploration of their sexuality when we're banning kids from a schoolyard or from a playground or from a sports team.

00:22:41.800 That looks more targeted, and that's what I have significant concerns about.

00:22:47.020 There is nothing that is a completely speculative question.

00:22:50.840 They've announced what they're thinking about doing.

00:22:52.700 They've not tabled anything.

00:22:53.740 There's no legislation.

00:22:54.940 There's nothing to be taken to court.

00:22:56.280 I'm not going to speculate about future processes.

00:22:59.020 Yeah, no, I don't think it was targeting and intimidating anybody.

00:23:02.940 In fact, it was sort of the opposite, wasn't it?

00:23:04.740 She talked about helping kids and, you know, even having child and family services intervene if a kid's being abused.

00:23:12.660 Here's Mark Holland, the new health minister, with his thoughts.

00:23:15.900 Take a look.

00:23:16.500 Daniel Smith introduced some new changes in Alberta that would make some changes to transgender kids, to sports, to policies in schools.

00:23:25.940 And I want to know, I mean, the government has introduced legislation to protect trans youth in the past.

00:23:30.460 Is there a role?

00:23:31.300 Has your government discussed any type of action on this?

00:23:33.980 Is this something that might fall into a category of withholding health funding, for example?

00:23:39.120 I'm deeply disturbed.

00:23:41.040 The decision that was made by Alberta places kids at risk.

00:23:45.900 We know that one of the number one reasons why kids take their life is problems around sexual identity.

00:23:56.800 And that the ability to be who you are, you know, is so vitally important.

00:24:02.840 And I thought we were in a place in this country, you know, when we voted on C3 and we stood unanimously.

00:24:08.680 I thought we were in a place in this country where we were moving past this.

00:24:12.740 I think it's extremely dangerous to engage in this kind of thing, which is, I think, playing politics when you're talking about children's lives.

00:24:25.260 And so affirming gender, making sure that kids and families have the health care that they need on extremely sensitive issues is so very important.

00:24:34.760 So what are we going to do?

00:24:36.460 You know, I've got to, I'm going to be in Alberta very soon.

00:24:40.400 I'm going to be meeting with Adriana Lagrange.

00:24:42.220 I've had a very strong working relationship with her.

00:24:46.880 I want to talk through these issues.

00:24:48.580 I want to see if we can find a solution through talking to really understand what this is going to mean and the devastation that it's going to bring so that we can find an offering.

00:24:59.480 So, you know, that's my first priority is to try through communicating.

00:25:03.300 And as I say, I'll be in Alberta very soon to have that face-to-face meeting.

00:25:06.700 That's the first step.

00:25:08.120 Did you hear what he said?

00:25:08.900 This places kids at risk.

00:25:11.240 It's extremely dangerous.

00:25:14.480 It's playing politics.

00:25:16.960 Justin Trudeau goes to every single pride parade in the country. 0.89

00:25:21.860 He hangs out with transgender transvestites.

00:25:26.060 He does political photo ops.

00:25:28.100 And he calls out Danielle Smith for politicizing pride and transgenderism.

00:25:34.100 By the way, I want to, I've mentioned this before.

00:25:37.080 I remember when I was in the UK at a conference and I heard a man who was with the Gay Men's Network.

00:25:43.580 And he said this, and it was shocking.

00:25:45.720 I'd never heard it before.

00:25:46.860 Maybe it's obvious to you, but I'd never heard it put this way before.

00:25:49.900 He said, he's a gay man.

00:25:51.860 That's who he is. 1.00

00:25:52.880 He said if he was a gay youth today, they would have told him, cut off your body parts. 1.00

00:25:59.080 You're not actually a gay man. 1.00

00:26:00.520 You're a woman in the wrong body. 1.00

00:26:02.400 He said, and I've never heard it put this way, that transgenderism is a war against gays and a war against lesbians because it's saying you're born in the wrong body. 0.99

00:26:15.080 And the solution is a Joseph Mengele-style mutilation surgery. 0.82

00:26:23.120 You heard Danielle Smith say top surgery and bottom surgery. 1.00

00:26:26.560 I can't even say those words.

00:26:27.740 It's so grotesque what is being done by medical doctors and for children.

00:26:34.140 And Danielle Smith is saying, no, you're not going to cut up kids. 0.76

00:26:38.260 You can cut up adults because I suppose it's their right, but you can't cut up kids.

00:26:43.320 And imagine calling that extremists. 0.94

00:26:45.360 The head of the Gay Men's Network said if that were around when he was a kid, he would have mutilated himself.

00:26:51.780 What's the liberal policy?

00:26:53.140 They're full in with transgenderism. 0.96

00:26:55.420 They've gone so nuts, I guess they realize there's no turning back now. 0.88

00:26:58.860 I mean, it reminds me of Justin Trudeau's important decision to make tampons available in the men's bathrooms at Canadian Armed Forces bases.

00:27:08.740 I don't know if you saw, but the tampon distributor machine in the men's bathrooms was ripped out almost immediately.

00:27:17.440 And, of course, that's being investigated by the Canadian Armed Forces.

00:27:21.640 They'll probably court-martial whoever did it.

00:27:23.740 Gee whiz, I wonder why they're having such a hard time recruiting soldiers.

00:27:28.060 If it weren't for the vaccine mandate and now their tampon mission. 0.99

00:27:32.380 No equipment.

00:27:33.640 No military equipment.

00:27:35.500 No proper pay.

00:27:37.160 No tanks or fighter planes at work.

00:27:39.020 But they're there with the tampons.

00:27:42.020 I don't know if you saw this in the New York Post.

00:27:43.600 Just yesterday, what a funny story, new state-mandated tampon dispenser in Connecticut, high school boys' bathroom, ripped down in just 20 minutes.

00:27:56.160 The principal is outraged and he wants to get to the bottom of it.

00:27:59.420 I tell you, the kids are all right.

00:28:00.680 They know that's BS.

00:28:01.920 Look, here's what I have to say.

00:28:04.200 Danielle Smith is doing what the people want.

00:28:06.860 What 88% of Albertans want.

00:28:10.260 What parents want.

00:28:11.500 By the way, if you're a parent and your kids are 17 and 18, I hope you don't do it.

00:28:18.220 But you can put your kid on drugs.

00:28:20.500 And once your kid's an adult, they can get the mutilation surgery.

00:28:23.880 I guess theoretically, they could just leave the province and go and do it elsewhere right now.

00:28:29.640 But I think the most important part of what Danielle Smith said is that she's going to let parents know what's going on.

00:28:36.800 And to see the Alberta Teachers Union and see the mayor of Calgary, who's just the least popular mayor in history, say this is her line in the sand.

00:28:45.500 Since when is the mayor of Calgary, is it her business to keep sexual secrets about children from parents? 0.99

00:28:54.660 And since when do teachers have a higher priority in a student's life and parents themselves?

00:29:01.200 I think that this is an excellent thing that Danielle Smith is doing.

00:29:04.820 Let's call the question, as they say.

00:29:07.860 Justin Trudeau is flailing around.

00:29:09.620 He's an absolute failure in every regard, whether it's inflation, housing, immigration, foreign policy, corruption, whatever it is.

00:29:16.640 But if this is their hill to die on, let it be.

00:29:20.060 Let's have an election on this issue.

00:29:24.100 And, you know what, it won't just be the liberals on the ballot and the NDP.

00:29:28.860 It'll be the entire media party, too.

00:29:32.380 And they'll get a thumping.

00:29:35.120 Stay with us.

00:29:36.040 More ahead.

00:29:36.500 What a difference it made last week to have the federal court of Canada with an independent judge using the processes of civil procedure to render a judgment on the invocation of the Emergencies Act by the government two years ago.

00:30:03.340 As you know, it was a stunning ruling rebuking the invocation of martial law using words like illegal, unintelligible, unreasonable, unjustified, and unconstitutional.

00:30:15.020 What a bracing decision.

00:30:16.640 And the reason I mention that is what a difference between that, a real court with an independent judge, versus what happened a year before that.

00:30:25.400 The hand-picked liberal appointee, Justice Rollo, with a handwritten mandate given to him by Justin Trudeau.

00:30:34.220 Surprise, surprise, that earlier fake commission of inquiry exonerated Trudeau.

00:30:40.320 Well, of course, it was Trudeau investigating himself.

00:30:42.520 And I mention that because there is a new judicial inquiry going on in Ottawa.

00:30:47.920 And it has all the hallmarks of another Trudeau cover-up.

00:30:51.720 I'm talking about the appointment of Justice Hogue to look into foreign influence in Canada.

00:30:57.580 Well, she was selected and given a task that by design will exonerate and exculpate Trudeau.

00:31:05.820 It's in fact worse than nothing because some of the politicians credibly accused of being agents of influence of communist China have been granted standing with this commission,

00:31:22.060 which means not only are they participants, they get early opportunities to review confidential matters.

00:31:29.820 We are literally letting credibly accused Chinese agents of influence inside the security process while we have this inquiry,

00:31:42.320 while others like the conservative opposition in Canada merely have outsider intervener status.

00:31:48.420 It is, as Woody Allen would say, a mockery of a sham.

00:31:52.180 Joining us now to talk about it is our friend Andy Lee, who has been following the foreign influence beat for years.

00:32:02.280 Andy, great to see you again.

00:32:03.880 Welcome back to the show.

00:32:04.880 We've missed you, but I follow you on Twitter, so I feel like I know what you're up to.

00:32:09.980 Have I been too harsh in my characterization of this judicial inquiry?

00:32:15.320 Is there something actually good going on here, or is it a whitewash?

00:32:20.160 Yeah, that's a good question.

00:32:21.060 I think a lot of us had high hopes for this public inquiry that had a little bit of different powers, the power to summon witnesses and cross-examine.

00:32:29.500 The only problem is that some of the people who are under suspicion of perhaps acting under foreign influence or even on the more serious side of things,

00:32:39.040 there's some accusations that they could actually be actively working for a foreign country or foreign government, mostly the PRC.

00:32:46.360 Some of those people have got those powers to cross-examine.

00:32:52.920 And so that's unfortunately led to some human rights groups.

00:32:57.140 And this is the Uyghurs. 1.00

00:32:58.940 They do the Uyghur Advocacy Project.

00:33:01.480 So they've pulled out of the inquiry.

00:33:04.620 They're not happy with the way that it's been conducted.

00:33:07.460 And they're not comfortable with the idea, rightfully so, that they could be cross-examined by the people who are accused of maybe aiding and abetting foreign influence.

00:33:19.540 And of course, we're talking about Michael Chan, Han Dong, and Senator Wu.

00:33:24.320 So I think we started off well.

00:33:28.160 There was some conflicts of interest with Hoag.

00:33:31.100 She had some ties to law firms.

00:33:33.940 But I mean, this is the way that Ottawa operates.

00:33:35.640 It's almost impossible to get a judge who doesn't have some sort of ties to someone somewhere, right?

00:33:41.960 But yeah, and it's sort of falling apart.

00:33:45.580 And now we're getting new information as well, that it seems like the scope of the foreign interference is maybe bigger than we first thought.

00:33:54.580 So Stu Bell from Global put something out saying that there was definitely meddling in the 2019 and 2020-21 elections.

00:34:04.360 Sam Coopers followed up with that today with a story saying that there were 117 briefs, which they're calling specifically defensive briefs, to politicians telling them that, you know, to be aware of foreign interference that's been going on.

00:34:22.660 So that's a little bit more serious than what's been let on.

00:34:26.660 I don't know if this is going to change Justice Hoag's perception of things, given that there's new information.

00:34:34.140 One of the people who was the victim of foreign interference with Michael Chan, we know that earlier on in the year, we heard that there were threats made against his family.

00:34:43.840 And this was news to him.

00:34:45.160 He said that he didn't learn about these threats until they came out in stories in, I believe it was the Globe and Mail that published them first.

00:34:52.660 Um, so if there were 117 debriefings given to politicians since May of 2021 on foreign interference, how did Michael Chan get missed in all of this?

00:35:08.180 How did that information get overlooked?

00:35:10.140 That's a great question.

00:35:13.040 Of course, he was a conservative politician who was critical of communist China, and he was kept in the dark.

00:35:18.360 That's an interesting story in itself.

00:35:20.020 But 117, I take it that means that CSIS or the RCMP would have contacted.

00:35:25.280 I'm guessing, if I understand it, 117 candidates are sitting politicians and saying, hey, you are being targeted by China to be boosted or defeated.

00:35:36.540 That's an extraordinarily wide battlefront that China has opened up here.

00:35:42.660 I mean, even if, let's say, four of those are in each district.

00:35:48.800 So let's say you have a riding, like there's some Vancouver area ridings or Toronto area ridings where there's a lot of Chinese Canadians.

00:35:56.180 I could imagine that the Chinese government would target those districts and every candidate in there.

00:36:01.700 So maybe you have 30 districts where four of the politicians eat, but that's still an enormous, that would make the difference.

00:36:09.680 30 districts, 30 ridings being swayed one way or another is absolutely enough in our minority parliament to choose who wins the election or not.

00:36:21.400 117 is, and as you point out, that doesn't even include Michael Chan.

00:36:24.840 I don't think Canadians knew the scale of this, and that's just China, sounds like.

00:36:31.400 Who knows what Iran is up to and others also. 1.00

00:36:35.820 Yeah, that was another interesting thing.

00:36:37.720 So just going through Sam Cooper's report following up on Global News.

00:36:41.440 So he said specifically it was 71 MPs.

00:36:44.780 Wow.

00:36:45.880 71.

00:36:47.980 That had these defensive briefings and 15 federal ministers.

00:36:53.300 Oh, my gosh.

00:36:54.920 So 15 federal ministers had got these briefings, and, I mean, what was done about it, right?

00:37:01.860 We didn't hear about it.

00:37:03.820 You know, we have the SITE task force, and that's our election sort of watchdog, and what they're supposed to do is they're supposed to do election monitoring, things like that, and, you know, alert us if there's any sort of threats to the integrity of our elections.

00:37:18.580 SITE wasn't activated, to my knowledge, for 2019 and 2021.

00:37:23.760 It was just activated, though, recently when they were monitoring, they say, for a by-election, and that's when they picked up a secondary campaign against Michael Chong, and that was news as well, right?

00:37:35.780 And I actually, we did some work, and we published, we actually traced that campaign directly back to the PRC.

00:37:42.080 They said that they could not trace it back to the People's Republic of China.

00:37:45.580 I went on to WeChat.

00:37:46.900 It was very, very quickly able to determine who was putting out this information.

00:37:52.240 It was by, it went back to Global Times.

00:37:54.760 So that's a state propaganda process, starting to put out this information.

00:37:59.360 So we found that, and we published that article.

00:38:01.780 So, yeah, I mean, fascinating, you know, to think that 15 federal ministers had this information, and this is the first that we're hearing about it, and this was through an access to information that anybody could file.

00:38:15.120 And the other thing is that five senators were aware.

00:38:18.620 Huh.

00:38:18.900 I tell you, you know, you were giving me so much useful information here, I was just guessing that it would be 30 districts.

00:38:24.340 You're telling me it was 71 MPs.

00:38:26.300 By the way, that would be the third largest party in Parliament, 71 MPs, after the liberals and the conservatives.

00:38:33.680 Astonishing, 15 cabinet ministers.

00:38:36.500 And we know so many of these cabinet ministers are going to China all the time.

00:38:40.880 Even when the two Michaels were held hostage, you had cabinet ministers going to China, not only to suck up to the Communist Party of China, but perhaps to be influenced by them in return.

00:38:53.100 Just astonishing.

00:38:54.660 Do you think that this ruling, this judge will issue some sort of a finding or report that will be useful?

00:39:03.500 Or do you think the real use here is to give people an opportunity to air facts like what you've just said?

00:39:10.020 I would say, at least if we hear things like what you've just told me, there's some use to this inquiry.

00:39:16.600 But I'm skeptical that the judge is going to actually give suggestions that are of any use.

00:39:21.880 I think she was handpicked by Trudeau for a reason.

00:39:24.000 I think that she said it's not so much about pointing fingers or placing blame.

00:39:34.860 Yes, it is a bit of a fact-finding mission.

00:39:39.120 I'm also of the opinion a little bit that the how is more important than the who and the why.

00:39:47.060 But the who matters as well, because you can't get to the bottom of the why and the how unless the people who maybe were involved were honest.

00:39:59.420 If you want to take Handong, for example, and I've done a lot of work on Handong, and he's the people who ran his campaign, specifically one man who's been mentioned as a person of interest to ceases, Wei Cheng Yi.

00:40:11.660 You know, I've traced his whereabouts in Canada back to 2010 so far.

00:40:19.780 You know, he's been deeply involved with the Chinese Communist Party from the get-go.

00:40:23.880 This is one of the people who's actually been invited to the political conferences.

00:40:28.200 He was personally recognized and singled out in Beijing by Xi Jinping himself.

00:40:34.900 He's shaken his hand.

00:40:35.880 And then he came back here and, you know, threw his weight behind Handong. 0.93

00:40:41.020 So when Handong says that he wasn't aware of any sort of foreign interference and, you know, that he was maybe getting some help or some, you know, some support from a foreign government, I'm sorry.

00:40:54.860 I don't believe that he doesn't know that the person who was working on his campaign, he announced his run from this person's office.

00:41:03.960 Yeah.

00:41:04.520 I don't believe that he doesn't know that he's going overseas meeting with Xi Jinping.

00:41:10.240 That's incredible.

00:41:11.020 That's quite a thing, right?

00:41:12.540 Not every person gets to do this.

00:41:14.780 Yeah.

00:41:15.040 And people out of that crowd.

00:41:18.460 So unless people like Handong are honest, and unless we single them out and say, well, what went on here?

00:41:26.540 It's very hard to understand the why behind it and how.

00:41:30.300 How did this happen, right?

00:41:31.900 Did he approach you?

00:41:33.660 How are these introductions made, right?

00:41:35.760 How do you fall into this, you know, this trap?

00:41:40.780 Were you selected?

00:41:42.400 Were you groomed by the Communist Party?

00:41:44.540 Were you a willing participant?

00:41:46.320 And we're not going to know that unless the people who are taking part in this inquiry are honest about that.

00:41:51.620 And those are important things to know because how do we counter it if we don't even know how it's happening, right?

00:41:57.980 We know that they're often targeting people, you know, not at the federal level.

00:42:02.940 They start early.

00:42:03.680 They start at school boards and at the municipal level and then work their way up the chain.

00:42:09.380 So and this is what happened to Handong, right?

00:42:12.020 He started meeting with these people before he was a federal candidate back, you know, way back when.

00:42:18.560 So unless those people are honest and say, yes, I do think that maybe some people who were involved in my campaign had insider links to the People's Republic of China and the Chinese Communist Party.

00:42:30.540 We can't really get to the bottom.

00:42:32.360 You know, these people need to be honest because how do we vote it if we don't know what's happening?

00:42:37.280 Are they coming up to you?

00:42:38.840 How did they approach you?

00:42:40.380 What was the deal?

00:42:41.340 Right.

00:42:41.600 What did they say?

00:42:42.400 What did they offer?

00:42:43.680 Yeah.

00:42:44.780 I hope those questions are asked.

00:42:47.700 I doubt those questions would be answered.

00:42:49.840 You know, Sun Tzu was, of course, a Chinese master strategist of war.

00:42:56.080 And I think if I had to sum up Sun Tzu's messages in one line, it would be deception.

00:43:04.780 Not to attack frontally.

00:43:07.280 And I think that China, which has practiced war and diplomacy for millennia, knows exactly how to handle the Canadian government.

00:43:16.760 They don't need to deploy, you know, Navy ships or even that spy hot air balloon.

00:43:23.100 In fact, that's the worst thing they could do because that would alert everyone that they're antagonistic to us.

00:43:28.800 What they do is influence within our systems and appear as Canadian MPs and senators.

00:43:35.280 That's the Sun Tzu method of undermining Canadian democracy.

00:43:39.540 Andy, I'm glad you're following this.

00:43:41.220 I'm glad you gave me, you corrected me on a few facts and you opened my eyes to others.

00:43:45.280 By the way, we have a reporter in Ottawa covering this commission every day.

00:43:49.600 His name is Robert Krejcik.

00:43:50.640 And we have a special website where we update every day.

00:43:53.080 It's called protectourdemocracy.ca because I think nothing less is at stake.

00:43:59.900 Andy, congrats on your excellent work.

00:44:02.000 Keep it up.

00:44:02.900 We look forward to publishing your work when you submit it.

00:44:06.680 We've loved publishing your stories before.

00:44:08.600 We know that you're working closely with other journalists.

00:44:11.200 Keep it up because I think more journalists need to be following this.

00:44:13.840 And I'm glad you are.

00:44:16.260 And like I said, you know, I don't want to throw this inquiry away yet because we're still getting new information.

00:44:21.520 Justice Hoag is looking at new information.

00:44:24.060 So it is possible, and I would like to see this myself, is that maybe she reverses some of the decisions that she's made.

00:44:30.620 That's within her power to do so.

00:44:32.960 And to bring a bit of credibility back to this after the Uyghurs pulled out, you know, perhaps to grant standings to some people who were intervener status standing. 0.79

00:44:43.840 To some people who were denied it before and give them an equal opportunity to call witnesses and examine and cross-examine.

00:44:51.960 Because that's the only way that we are going to get somebody who's going to ask those questions to some of the people who are maybe have questionable ties.

00:45:00.140 Yeah.

00:45:00.580 Right?

00:45:01.420 I think it could, you know, re-legitimize the process and, you know, ensure that everybody feels that it's credible.

00:45:13.220 And worthwhile thing to continue doing.

00:45:16.360 Right?

00:45:16.500 I'd hate to see it thrown away at this point.

00:45:18.600 Well, you're more optimistic and hopeful than I am, but that's one of the things I like about you.

00:45:22.820 Andy Lee, special rapporteur on these issues.

00:45:27.040 We'll talk to you again soon.

00:45:28.340 Stay with us, folks.

00:45:29.580 More ahead.

00:45:30.080 Hey, welcome back.

00:45:42.420 Some letters on sending our friends Lincoln Jay and Alexa LaVoie to Texas.

00:45:46.600 Mark Davis says, blame the policies of the Democratic Party.

00:45:49.720 Why should Texas bear the burden of their party's decisions?

00:45:52.960 Well, I think this is done for a few reasons.

00:45:55.200 First of all, the welfare state loves migrants, the crime state. 1.00

00:46:01.220 There's a lot of forces in society that like the destabilizing chaotic effects.

00:46:05.340 But, of course, the Democrats have a long-term goal to turn Texas blue.

00:46:09.300 By blue, they mean turn it into a Democratic state.

00:46:12.720 And you bring in millions of people who eventually will be naturalized or granted amnesty.

00:46:18.080 And you've got yourself – you can win Texas for the Democrats.

00:46:21.820 And if Texas went Democrat, Republicans would never win again.

00:46:25.760 So good for Governor Abbott to send these migrants to other sanctuary cities to give them a taste of the pain. 0.97

00:46:33.880 It's very interesting.

00:46:34.640 I hope you're following TexasBorderReports.com because Lincoln and Alexa are just pumping out tons of videos.

00:46:40.420 Mr. Vivalos Legos says, in Trump's defense, he tried several times to build a better wall, but Congress continually blocked him from doing so.

00:46:48.420 Yeah, I don't think he tried hard enough.

00:46:50.380 Listen, I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I get the feeling that if Donald Trump wanted it done, truly wanted it done, he could have got it done.

00:46:58.200 I don't know.

00:46:58.900 I'm not an American.

00:46:59.700 I don't know all the facts.

00:47:00.800 But I think that breaking that – or not keeping that promise was one of his greatest failures.

00:47:08.540 Elizabeth Monsell says, thank you, Rebel News, for covering this, for speaking frankly and truly and putting boots on the ground.

00:47:15.160 This is impacting USA and Canada so much.

00:47:17.120 Well, one of the things that Alexa talks about, because she's covered that Roxham Road border crossing, is when people come from New York State into Canada or other border crossings too, including, for example, in Manitoba, they're obviously not Americans.

00:47:30.340 Some of them are from Latin America.

00:47:32.960 Many of them are from Africa and the Middle East. 1.00

00:47:35.880 They just know Canada's a sucker. 1.00

00:47:37.860 Go on in. 0.99

00:47:38.460 Well, the entire southern border is completely open, and some of those people will be ordered deported.

00:47:43.880 Some will be arrested and put out on bail, and they'll run away, and they'll run away to Canada.

00:47:48.160 We are getting the worst of the worst.

00:47:51.240 Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see how Alexa and Lincoln do down there.

00:47:54.840 That's our show for today.

00:47:56.440 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.

00:47:59.860 Good night.

00:48:00.960 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:48:01.980 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - February 01, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Alberta Premier Danielle Smith brings in a sensitive, sensible policy on transgenderism — and the left goes nuts

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