Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ An airline CEO comes out against the vaccine mandate

00:00:00.000 Hello my Rebels, today I look at an astonishing comment by the new president, the new CEO of

00:00:05.420 WestJet. He came out against Trudeau's vaccine mandate. I have never seen such courage in any

00:00:10.680 Canadian CEO of two years of the lockdown. It won't surprise you to hear he's foreign. He just 1.00

00:00:17.220 came to Canada to take the job. I'll give you the scoop on it. I'll tell you what he said and I'll

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00:01:10.780 Tonight, an airline CEO comes out against the vaccine mandate. It's June 1st, and this is the

00:01:19.240 Ezra LeVant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:26.040 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the

00:01:31.640 government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:35.960 I was very surprised to see this yesterday. It's a public comment on Twitter by Alexis von

00:01:51.220 Hensbrecht. I think I'm pronouncing that right. He's the CEO of WestJet, Canada's second largest

00:01:58.860 airline. It's based in the West. Maybe there's a tiny bit of a freedom spirit left out there.

00:02:05.000 He said, vaccine mandate for all travelers and employees needs to be dropped. As vaccines are

00:02:14.260 not preventing the spreading of the virus since Omicron, there is no more logic to maintain it.

00:02:21.500 This will also relax some of the operational challenges at the airports. Wow. And in his tweet,

00:02:29.940 he links to this CTV story. Headline, federal COVID-19 border restrictions extended for another

00:02:38.300 month. Yeah. You think it's just another month? How about just another two weeks to stop the spread?

00:02:44.620 Here's what the CTV story says. The federal COVID-19 restrictions at the border are being extended

00:02:51.440 until at least June 30th. Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada announced

00:02:56.380 on Tuesday, the federal government will continue to require foreign tourists to provide proof of being

00:03:03.960 fully vaccinated. Yeah. Canadians need to provide that too, don't they? So I care about Canadians because

00:03:11.420 I am a Canadian and because it's so evident to me that Trudeau is using the airline and railway

00:03:16.900 vaccine mandates as a way to punish the opposition. Here's what I mean. Because if you're unvaccinated

00:03:22.400 in 2022, if you manage to hold out this far, despite the bullying and threats and extortions,

00:03:30.920 despite the punishments, I think the likelihood that you are anything but a Trudeau supporter is more

00:03:37.200 than 90 percent. And that's really all Trudeau cares about. So of course he wants to punish and undermine

00:03:43.460 and hurt and fatigue and demoralize that group of people who are against him politically. I mean,

00:03:49.980 he literally called them racists and Nazis. And he went on TV saying that we shouldn't tolerate such people.

00:03:58.400 It's not so much that the unvaccinated are a public danger. Many of them have recovered naturally from

00:04:25.240 the virus and are naturally immune. And as Bill Gates himself tells us, vaccines don't stop you from

00:04:32.500 catching or spreading the virus. They're not really vaccines in the traditional sense.

00:04:38.020 The idea of checking if people are vaccinated, you know, if you have breakthrough infections,

00:04:42.500 what's the point? Yeah. It's that Trudeau likes to punish his enemies, especially when they helpfully

00:04:48.500 put themselves in a category like that. He hates Alberta and Saskatchewan. He hates the oil patch.

00:04:55.100 He hates our military. He hates the unvaxxed because each of these groups are his political opponents 0.99

00:05:00.300 and they're easy to class so he can target them. That's why he wants to criminalize them where he can

00:05:06.040 merely ban and segregate them where that's the most he can do. But the thing is, that isn't such a neat

00:05:13.020 class because if there are, say, 10 or 15 percent of the country that's unvaxxed, I bet it's actually

00:05:18.480 higher. Well, that's just not it because they're very likely part of a family where some people are

00:05:24.860 vaxxed. You might have a mom who stays at home with the kids and so she's not vaxxed because she's 1.00

00:05:31.520 worried about her health. But the dad had to get vaxxed or he'd be fired from his job. So there's a

00:05:39.340 family and Trudeau hates the mom because she's unvaxxed. But the dad is no ally of Trudeau.

00:05:47.380 He was forced to be vaxxed. And of course, he loves his wife. But my point here is that the entire

00:05:52.700 family can't really go on a family vacation on WestJet now, can they? They can't go to a cycle

00:06:00.360 of life event like a wedding or a funeral on a WestJet flight, can they? Because mom isn't vaxxed even

00:06:06.500 though dad was forced to be vaxxed. So if you're WestJet or Canada, you didn't just lose mom as a

00:06:13.400 customer, you lost the family unit as a customer. But it's worse than that. The second part of that

00:06:20.520 CTV, the second sentence I read from that CTV story, foreign tourists have to show they're vaxxed 0.99

00:06:25.780 to come to Canada. Many foreigners are not vaxxed. And many Americans, which is by far the biggest source

00:06:34.220 of tourists and business travelers to Canada, some of them are vaxxed, but some aren't. But it's been

00:06:40.640 ages since they had to widespread vaccine mandates down there. And some places like Florida, being an

00:06:46.420 obvious example, never did. So some people are vaxxed and some aren't. But really, is everyone

00:06:51.200 holding onto their vaccine certificates and carrying them in their wallets? I mean, maybe that's

00:06:58.740 something you do, you say very carefully. But you're an American, and you want to go on a trip,

00:07:04.420 you want to come to Canada, and you've got to go through this whole thing again? Yeah, you might

00:07:10.040 want to go to Mexico instead. Better beaches, less corrupt than Trudeau. In Mexico, they don't censor

00:07:17.020 you or seize your bank accounts, Trudeau style, and they don't require that you're jabbed.

00:07:20.880 So if you're WestJet, you've been a good corporate citizen this whole time, which these days,

00:07:26.860 unfortunately, means not being a good citizen to your fellow man, but being obedient to the

00:07:31.480 government, forcing your own staff to be vaccinated under pain of being terminated, forcing your own

00:07:36.560 customers to be vaccinated, and denying the vast majority of requests for religious or medical

00:07:41.900 exemptions. So let's not pretend that WestJet hasn't been a complicit collaborator all along.

00:07:48.560 They shut up and obeyed. The complete opposite of the boss of Cafe Pacific, who stood up to the

00:07:56.560 Chinese dictatorship. Remember that story? Cafe Pacific, one of the world's great airlines,

00:08:01.860 based in Hong Kong. And look at this story. I've told it to you before. The Chinese government

00:08:07.540 demanded that the airline boss hand over the names of any staff who were engaged in pro-democracy

00:08:13.780 protests, according to this report. And I've seen this report in four different news sources.

00:08:17.920 The CEO gave the Chinese a piece of paper with a list of all the names of the protesters on it,

00:08:25.200 but there's only one name on the list, his own name. Could you imagine that? He was soon drummed

00:08:31.220 out as CEO. I don't know if this is a legend or a fact. I have read it in places like Newsweek and

00:08:36.160 a Taiwanese newspaper. I would like to think that there are some Hong Kongers who believe that

00:08:41.560 that much in freedom. I don't know if Alexis Ron Hensbrook is such a man. I don't know.

00:08:49.300 WestJet spent two years complying with Trudeau's mandates, not just complying, but enforcing the

00:08:56.220 rules against their own people, their own staff, their own customers. But you can't put all that

00:09:00.540 on Van Hensbrook because according to this press release, I had never heard of Ron Hensbrook before,

00:09:05.920 he actually only joined WestJet as their boss in February, just a few months ago, March, April,

00:09:12.280 May, June, four months ago. He's from Europe. I think he might be German. I'm not sure.

00:09:18.660 And Europe, they're slightly more sane than Canada on the lockdowns these days.

00:09:22.780 So maybe Von Hensbrook is our version of the Cafe Pacific boss. He's not dulled and succumbed and

00:09:30.780 obedient and submissive like 100% of the rest of the CEO class in this country. I cannot think of one

00:09:38.200 company, one publicly traded company, one prestigious company, one stock market company,

00:09:42.860 one company that you know the brand that spoke out against the vaccine mandates, let alone the

00:09:48.560 lockdown orders, the distancing orders, the mask and sanity. Not one. Can you name one?

00:09:55.640 Maybe it took a European to care. Maybe this is just a case of his personal and his business interests 0.95

00:10:02.560 correlating with civil liberties. I mean, it's late, but it's bold. And it's directly in the face of

00:10:11.100 Trudeau. Huh. Here's what he said.

00:10:14.740 The travel restrictions, the tourism groups want them lifted. And there has been some criticism

00:10:18.760 that the communication around the reasoning hasn't been transparent.

00:10:22.020 Well, the reality is, as much as people would like to pretend we're not, we're still in a pandemic.

00:10:28.140 There are Canadians who die every single day because of COVID-19 in our hospitals. We are still at risk,

00:10:34.480 particularly at risk as fall approaches of new variants. We need to make sure we're doing

00:10:41.100 everything we can to keep Canadians safe. And I know people are eager to get back to things

00:10:45.520 we love. But what will also, you know, further damage our tourism industry is if we get another

00:10:51.880 wave, if we get more serious impacts from COVID. That's why every single time we have been

00:10:59.460 anchored in science, we're reflecting on what the best way to do to make sure that we can get

00:11:05.340 back to the things we love as quickly as possible without putting ourselves at risk for further

00:11:10.320 health crises, for further economic shutdowns, for further hardship that COVID has.

00:11:15.700 So Trudeau says the risk, well, it might in the future sometime, maybe in the fall, maybe another

00:11:21.940 wave. So he's banning people now because maybe something, something about the future, even though

00:11:27.940 the vaccine doesn't stop transmission, even though the unvaccinated are put on buses, there's no sense 0.98

00:11:33.680 to it other than punishment. There's no science here, only vengeance. The truckers were against

00:11:39.380 the mandate, so this is part of his punishment to them, which is why I'm worried for Alexis von

00:11:45.280 Hensbrook. You simply don't speak out against Trudeau in Canada. Von Hensbrook might not know that

00:11:53.580 part either. When I think of hyper-regulated businesses in Canada, I think of the firearms

00:11:59.520 industry, if there's any left. I think of tobacco, if there's any left. I think of the banks, and I

00:12:05.040 think of airlines. A malicious government could kill an airline with the flick of its tail. 0.98

00:12:11.500 Look what, look what they're doing in the Toronto Pearson Airport, making passengers come at 3.30 in

00:12:16.800 the morning. The government did that. And that's just, that's just incompetence and abuse. That's not

00:12:22.680 targeted vengeance. Von Hensbrook is daring Trudeau, challenging him. I noticed that Air Canada and

00:12:29.920 Flare Air, or whatever the other small airlines are, Air Transat, I noticed that they are staying

00:12:34.420 very, very silent. They are hiding very quietly right now. They are not coming forward to show

00:12:40.200 unity and say, yeah, me too. They're not doing that. That would not only save WestJet, it would likely

00:12:46.180 tip the scales and help push to freedom. If every airline said, this is nuts, I think it would make a

00:12:51.780 dent. But they would rather see their competitor WestJet, their rival, massacred by Trudeau, than

00:12:58.260 risk them standing in the breach, even if that would save the problem, solve the problem. They're

00:13:04.320 happy for this European tourist to be mugged by a thug. But it's all a reminder of how our national

00:13:13.340 temperament, our national conscience has been warped. The way we look at the world and what we have

00:13:19.660 accepted. It's not normal what we have accepted here. We're outliers in the world. We're weird in

00:13:25.180 the world. Trudeau is making us a worse version of ourselves than we used to be on censorship,

00:13:31.940 on accepting poverty, on civil liberties, on pandemic response. You know, Von Hensbrook isn't the

00:13:39.020 strange one. The rest of the cowards are Canadians as a whore. Still with us from war. 1.00

00:14:00.380 I saw news that the fertility rate in Canada has hit an all-time low. Fertility rate is a pretty 1.00

00:14:07.840 simple measurement. It's how many babies does the average woman have. And for a society to replace 1.00

00:14:14.940 itself, the number is just over 2.0. It's around 2.1 for various reasons. Anything less than that,

00:14:21.960 the society is shrinking, shrinking, shrinking, like Italy or Japan. Well, last year, Canada's

00:14:28.420 fertility rate was around 1.4. Part of it, obviously, was the pandemic. But I think another part of it is

00:14:36.360 it's just so expensive to start a family, to get married and get your own house. And the longer

00:14:43.620 you delay that, the less likely you are to have kids or more than one kid. I think the cost of

00:14:51.780 forming a family is probably the number one factor in a society's health and happiness.

00:14:58.920 The government makes things harder by ramping up demand for housing, in my opinion, by having 1%

00:15:06.760 of the population come to Canada every year in the form of immigration. 350,000 people a year all

00:15:13.260 needing new homes. That pushes up the housing price. And of course, supply is limited by various

00:15:19.620 regulations, including so-called green belts and other reasons to not build. It's a disaster

00:15:25.840 for those squeezed in the middle. As Roman Babber said to me the other day, there is an upside to

00:15:31.740 skyrocketing property values in that for many Canadians, that's their only form of savings.

00:15:38.840 Their house, it's what they're counting on to retire. Okay, that is part of the equation. But

00:15:44.340 what about young people trying to start a family? There's a lobby group called Generation Squeeze.

00:15:51.160 I've never actually heard of it before, but they're worried about the squeeze. And they had

00:15:57.060 a meeting with the government and it turns out Trudeau was lying. He actually is considering

00:16:04.460 a tax on your household equity. Here to join us to talk about it is our friend Franco Terrazzano,

00:16:12.040 the federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. And he has a new essay on the website

00:16:16.360 called Documents Show. Prime Minister's Office staff held meetings on home equity taxes. Franco,

00:16:23.840 great to see you. Thanks for joining us. Tell us a little bit about what happened when Generation

00:16:27.880 Squeeze went to talk to the Prime Minister's office. Well, Ezra, let me take your audience back just

00:16:34.580 one step here. So the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, a federal crown corporation,

00:16:39.940 gave $250,000 of our hard-earned taxpayers' money to this group to study a home equity tax. The report

00:16:50.160 was released with a recommendation of a form of a home equity tax. Now, we've been sounding the alarm

00:16:55.940 over this. And we heard from a bunch of liberal MPs, you know, essentially dismissing these concerns,

00:17:01.460 saying the government isn't considering a home equity tax. We also heard from Prime Minister Justin

00:17:07.260 Trudeau during the last election that the liberals would not bring in a home equity tax. But we just

00:17:13.080 dug up some documents showing that staff within Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's office has in fact

00:17:19.400 met with this group that is recommending a home equity tax not once but twice. So you have these

00:17:25.780 liberal politicians essentially pinky promising taxpayers that they're not going to put in a home

00:17:31.180 equity tax. Well, then why is Trudeau's staff meeting with these home equity tax pushers?

00:17:36.380 Got it. So Generation Squeeze, they are the recommenders of the tax. They say that's going 0.99

00:17:43.040 to form, that's going to be a solution. What's their, I mean, we of course, you and I disagree with

00:17:50.560 the idea of this tax. We could talk more about that. But just if they were here, how would they argue

00:17:57.080 that taxing homes makes homes more affordable? Like, how do they square that circle? They must have some

00:18:03.760 intricate argument. Do you know, do you know how they put it? Well, it more so seems if you read the

00:18:10.040 their news release around this report, it's almost like they're trying to punish the homeowners for

00:18:15.900 getting these so called windfall gains on their home prices. But let's remember for so many Canadians,

00:18:23.320 for our parents and our grandparents, their homes are their nest eggs. They rely on the sale of their

00:18:29.760 homes to be able to afford to fund their own golden years. Now, we have a home equity tax calculator at

00:18:36.680 taxpayer.com. And let me just give you a startling number of how much a home equity tax could cost.

00:18:42.440 Let's say your parents or grandparents bought their home for about $250,000 back in 1980. Let's say they

00:18:48.940 sell it today for about 1.2 million. A home equity tax could cost them anywhere between $50,000,

00:18:54.940 all the way up to $190,000. That would be so much pain for so many people who rely on that nest egg.

00:19:02.860 Right. And I know some folks, if you're living in a smaller town or a rural place, you're probably

00:19:09.020 saying $1.2 million. That's, that's a dream. Well, actually, in Toronto, in Vancouver, even in Calgary and

00:19:17.480 Edmonton, like I should say, in this city of Toronto, where I happen to live, the average cost of a house is

00:19:24.600 well over a million dollars. And, you know, this reminds me, I think this is the issue that propelled

00:19:29.460 Ronald Reagan into high office in California. People bought houses, like you say, in the olden times when

00:19:36.280 people could afford them. And just, you know, the bubble or inflation or whatever, their home value

00:19:42.420 went up. But that is a very illiquid asset. You don't get that money until you sell it. I think one of the

00:19:48.360 things in Reagan's California is that you were, your property taxes were based on its value. So the property

00:19:54.640 taxes were pushing often grandparents out of their homes simply because the market value of their homes had

00:20:01.440 increased, but they were on a flat pension. That was one of the things that Reagan, if my history is right,

00:20:06.760 wrote into office. I think they had a proposition, like a referendum, I think it was called Prop 13. I'll have to

00:20:11.820 check my history. But when you say, I'm going to take your money, I'm going to wring it out of your

00:20:18.080 house, even though you don't have that income, I think that that's a devastating thing to a lot of

00:20:23.600 people. Tell me a little bit more about what the PMO said or did when they met with Generation Squeeze.

00:20:30.020 I know you're trying to read the tea leaves from the access to information documents, but is there

00:20:34.640 anything else in there? Well, we do know that Generation Squeeze did talk about the tax policy

00:20:40.880 recommendation, right? Their form of home equity tax. We tried to reach out to get further comment, but we were

00:20:46.660 not able to do so. But Ezra, let's just go back to this home equity tax recommendation. Remember, this report

00:20:53.420 was funded with our own taxpayers' money, through the CMHC. Let's remember that. Very important. And the whole

00:21:00.240 report was supposed to talk about how to improve sky-high housing prices, because look, that is a real

00:21:06.800 problem. But trying to improve affordability with a new tax would be like trying to put out a fire with

00:21:13.200 gasoline. It's just going to make things worse. And here's the thing, buried within that report, 50 pages

00:21:18.860 in, they finally acknowledged that, surprise, surprise, a new tax could increase the cost of

00:21:24.640 homes, because you could have would-be sellers adding on the tax to the price, or you could just

00:21:31.200 have sellers decide to keep their house off the market, which would, again, reduce supply and increase

00:21:37.720 prices. So what we need to see in Canada is we need to see governments allow people to actually build

00:21:43.440 homes. And you build homes with hammers and nails, not with tax hikes. Yeah. You know, in Ontario, there's a

00:21:50.040 land transfer tax. It's tens of thousands of dollars. It's an enormous burden. But I guess the reason I

00:21:55.500 mention it is they're getting away with it. So Justin Trudeau and the feds must be looking at what is done in

00:22:02.240 Ontario and says, oh, we can get a piece of that action, too. I don't know. It's it's fun. I'm glad you helped

00:22:07.980 explain for me who Generation Squeezed is. They were funded by the government to lobby the government to do that

00:22:15.060 which the government wants to do, which is to tax. It's a typical Ottawa story. And they're getting rich off it, too. I

00:22:21.560 I just I just don't know who would support this. If you're if you currently own a home, obviously you

00:22:29.920 wouldn't support it because it's been taken by the government. If you're trying to get into a home and

00:22:34.040 buy a home, this doesn't help you for the reasons you just said. Literally, the only people who benefit

00:22:39.300 here are the tax collectors. This is such bad public policy, which is why I'm certain Justin Trudeau is

00:22:44.960 going to do it. Ezra, but here's the thing. You nailed it, right? Who benefits from it? Well, the politicians in

00:22:51.080 Ottawa that are tripping over themselves trying to figure out how in the world they're going to pay

00:22:55.340 down their one trillion dollar plus debt. And look, we have to hold the Canada Mortgage and Housing

00:23:00.760 Corporation to account here as well, because this is a crown corporation and on their website,

00:23:06.000 their number one objective is housing affordability. Well, let's look at the numbers here. In 2020,

00:23:10.820 the average home price up 13 percent. 2021, up again, 21 percent. So we are facing a housing

00:23:17.820 affordability crisis. And what does the CMHC do? They turn around, pat themselves on the back and give their

00:23:24.020 employees 48 million dollars in bonuses in 2020 and 2021. They give themselves bonuses when they fail

00:23:32.040 to meet their own objectives and when Canadians can't afford to get into a home. You know, I think about this

00:23:38.180 all the time. I'm lucky enough to be a homeowner myself. But if you're a young person trying to get into 0.55

00:23:43.820 your first house in Toronto or Vancouver or another big city, I don't know what the national housing

00:23:49.520 average price is, but I get realtors dropping their flyers in my mailbox and they all boast that this

00:23:56.920 house sold for 300,000 more than list price. That house sold for half a million more. You're literally

00:24:03.000 having houses that are listed for 1.5 million, which is beyond the reach of many people, selling for

00:24:09.000 2 million. That's the madness. I don't know if that bubble can continue to grow, but we're in very

00:24:16.260 strange days. I think it has in part to do with inflation and the government just printing money.

00:24:21.800 Am I accurate on that? Well, of course. I mean, this is what's ballooning the price of so many

00:24:27.580 goods and services, but of course, hard assets as well. I mean, one of the big problems here is that

00:24:33.180 we've seen the central bank, the Bank of Canada, print hundreds of billions of dollars right out of

00:24:38.720 thin air over the last two years. But of course, you can't just print new homes out of thin air,

00:24:43.740 right? So we're overstimulating demand with all the new dollars that is chasing too few goods. But then

00:24:49.340 on the supply side, you have many of the regulations that we've already been talking about

00:24:53.940 that are reducing our ability to actually build homes. And look, you know what's also so damaging

00:24:59.940 about this home equity tax? If you look at younger couples who are trying to save up for their first

00:25:05.540 home by selling their starter home, well, this is going to make them, it's going to make it even

00:25:10.280 harder for them to do that. So not only does it harm people who are looking to retire, but it can also

00:25:15.380 harm that younger couple looking to move into their first family home. You know, you said that housing is 0.99

00:25:20.680 up 21%. I know here in Toronto, it's up 29%. In one year, if you're a young person trying to scrape

00:25:27.160 together a little pile of savings to make a down payment, you can't keep up. Like, as fast as you're

00:25:34.720 saving, the price is going up faster. You're literally falling further behind. I find this very

00:25:41.200 stressful because, I don't know, I just think it would be very difficult to be a young person

00:25:46.380 in Toronto. And it comes back to how I started this conversation. I think

00:25:51.820 forming a family in Canada and in the big cities in particular has never been more difficult. And I

00:25:59.740 really don't think the government gives a damn. I find this a very stressful thing, but I appreciate

00:26:04.160 the research you've done here, Franco. And I appreciate that you guys at the Taxpayers Federation

00:26:09.040 keep fighting for the little guys. So thanks for doing that. Hey, it was my pleasure. Thanks so much for

00:26:14.640 having me on. All right. Anytime. There's our friend Franco Toranzano. He's the federal director

00:26:19.940 of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. One of the good guys, that's for sure. Stay with us.

00:26:36.940 Hey, welcome back. Your viewer mail. Frank DeVries says,

00:26:41.400 rural citizens think for themselves and are capable and willing to survive without being manipulated

00:26:46.340 and told what to do. There's some truth there. I mean, I grew up semi-country. I mean, we went to

00:26:52.420 school in the city for most of our childhood, but we did grow up in the country. And country folk just

00:26:57.960 have to know how to do stuff because they're in the country and they have to be more independent.

00:27:02.620 They have to learn how to fix stuff. They have to learn how to make do. And the country, many folks

00:27:07.700 have their own well, their own septic tank, their own everything. And sometimes they're snowed in.

00:27:12.460 They have to have their own plow. You just have to do stuff. And I'm not even talking about farmers

00:27:18.460 and ranchers. I think that's one reason why rural parts are more conservative. There is

00:27:24.400 an individualism. There is a self-reliance. There's a personal responsibility. You can't just,

00:27:30.100 I mean, there's no such thing as a beggar on the street in the country parts because there's no one

00:27:34.800 passing by to throw you a quarter, but there is plenty of work to do out there. I'm glad I grew up west of

00:27:41.460 Calgary sort of country style. I think it influenced my politics. You know, Bill Whittle, very thoughtful

00:27:49.180 guy, had this idea that once a year people would have to go into the wild for three and a half days.

00:27:56.520 And his idea being it would be one percent of your year. And you would live without the modern

00:28:04.860 miracles of capitalism, without electricity, without refrigerators, without running water.

00:28:13.220 One percent of your year. Just so that when you came back to society and civilization, you'd be

00:28:18.720 grateful for what you had become so accustomed to and numb to. Obviously, I don't think he meant that

00:28:26.480 as anything more than a thought exercise. He would certainly not send people out into the wild for

00:28:31.240 three and a half days, but it is a good thought exercise. And I think that's one reason why Trudeau

00:28:37.140 hates rural people. And the only meaningful changes to his gun laws will punish legal farmers and hunters

00:28:45.480 and really leave urban criminal gangsters alone. In fact, as I showed you, Bill C-5 will reduce the

00:28:53.300 punishment for gang criminals. Jimmy Canuck says the cops on site didn't need extra help,

00:29:01.920 extra armaments, etc. What they needed was someone who had the guts to do the job, probably a parent,

00:29:08.300 but they kept them out or arrested them. You're talking about the massacre at Uvalde.

00:29:12.880 And of course, the criminal deserves the odium and the hatred and the moral punishment. 0.73

00:29:23.180 But what about the people who swore an oath to protect, to serve and protect, and those cowards

00:29:28.880 who wouldn't go in for fear of being shot? So I do not say that the police are worse than the murderer.

00:29:33.880 Of course, they're not. But they're in second place. Breadfan978 says, I like how Trudeau's

00:29:44.180 lackeys don't even wait to start applauding until his statement was completed. How many times did

00:29:49.920 they rehearse that? Yeah. And to me, I just can't get over the sight of them all wearing their masks.

00:29:55.520 You know, they're all double vaxxed and boosted and all that. They're still wearing their masks

00:30:00.720 performatively. But you'll notice Trudeau didn't wear a mask when he visited Queen Elizabeth,

00:30:05.600 who's like in her 90s. He didn't wear a mask when he went to Ukraine. That would get in the way of

00:30:09.300 all the shots. By the way, most Ukrainians are not vaccinated. He only wears a mask when he's trying 0.99

00:30:13.840 to be just so woke. And it's a bit, I think people see through it. Well, that's our show for

00:30:20.180 today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.

00:30:24.000 Keep fighting for freedom and have that WestJet CEO in your prayers too. I think he needs it.

00:30:29.480 Adam Sos here for Rebel News, and I'm with JR, the owner of the Shooting Edge here in Calgary,

00:30:35.740 a great club, a club I myself come to frequently. Obviously, with Bill C-21, Justin Trudeau making

00:30:42.240 further advances on the sort of rights of legal gun owners in this country. I thought I'd swing by,

00:30:48.060 obviously, you work in the industry, but you're also something of an expert in this field.

00:30:52.120 So just maybe for folks out there who aren't familiar with firearms, for folks out there

00:30:56.020 who don't know the sort of logistics that someone goes through to own a firearm. Many people maybe

00:31:02.220 get the sentiment, you walk in, you get one. That's the end of the story. How many sort of

00:31:06.280 loopholes and rings and rules and red tape are people jumping through just to legally target shoot as

00:31:11.980 it is? Well, I think that's a good point, Adam, is that you don't just get to come in and buy a

00:31:16.960 firearm. This is not the States. And the problem is the left or the antis always try to equate

00:31:23.200 Canada to the US. But we have very different laws and very different cultures. So in Canada,

00:31:28.680 before you can even buy a firearm, you have to take a firearm safety course. And that's eight

00:31:32.480 hours of training. And then you have to, once you finish that and you're tested, then you have to

00:31:37.000 apply for the license. And in that application, two people are used as guarantors, that they know

00:31:43.220 you and that they think that you're okay with firearms. But also, if you're in a relationship,

00:31:47.180 then you have to, or even out of one for up to two years, disclose that, because then they go and

00:31:53.740 they check with that person to see whether or not they ever felt uncomfortable with you owning

00:31:58.780 firearms. So there's all these checks and balances along the way. And then eventually you get a firearms

00:32:04.300 license. So that process takes generally 60 to 90 days. So it's not a quick process. It's not like

00:32:11.460 you say, Oh, my God, I want to get a gun and then go get one. You've got to go through all of that.

00:32:15.580 Once you have that, then you still have to, if it's a restricted firearm, a handgun, when you go to buy

00:32:22.640 it, we still have to go through another check, and that we have to submit the transfer to the RCMP

00:32:29.040 again. So then they get us a chance at that point saying, we don't think so, or there's other

00:32:34.080 questions. So there's all of these things along the way. And then there's ancillary things like you have

00:32:40.120 to be a member of a gun club because there's only, there's really only a couple of ways to own a

00:32:43.940 handgun in the country. And that is either to be a target shooter or to be a collector. And if

00:32:48.800 you're a collector, then you have to actually express why you're collecting. And if you're a target

00:32:53.480 shooter, you're supposed to express where you go to shoot. And that's generally with a membership at a

00:32:58.700 gun club.

00:32:59.120 Are there any plans to monitor how many handguns are purchased between now and when the legislation passes?

00:33:05.160 We're going to continue to collect data and monitor as we always do. We're hopeful that

00:33:11.380 this legislation is going to pass quickly so we can move forward with freezing the market

00:33:16.360 on handguns.

00:33:16.960 What do you think of Justin Trudeau's gun grab?

00:33:18.420 There's no point to it in the sense of like for legal gun owners to, you know, practice

00:33:23.200 the sport and the hobbies that they enjoy. You know, it's like if you like a fast car, but

00:33:28.400 you're in a 50 kilometre zone, does that mean you shouldn't have that car because it's

00:33:32.140 unnecessarily powerful and too fast, you know? So yeah, it's just, there's no point

00:33:36.880 to it. It's an ideology has nothing to do with safety. It's just no one should have guns

00:33:40.580 but the government and liberals are big governments. So they want you to rely on them and not yourself.

00:33:44.560 I think the biggest problem, honestly, is still the illegal guns coming across the vast,

00:33:49.260 the vast, vast majority of people that are getting guns legally or using them for sports

00:33:54.200 shooting. And that's who it hurts the most as a community. It's really hurting us. Like

00:33:58.700 with the OIC, you saw a big decrease in three gun, which is a huge shooting sport before

00:34:02.900 that went. So now I think we're going to start seeing stuff like steel challenge and other

00:34:06.840 shooting events kind of go the way of the Dodo because people just won't be able to get

00:34:09.820 pistols. So as far as the effect on the community, it's really, really bad.

00:34:14.380 I love the training that they gave us. I love the restrictions of how careful you have

00:34:18.300 to be with locking down your weapons. And when you transport them, they have to be locked

00:34:21.260 and you keep your ammunition safe. All those laws are already on the books here and in the States

00:34:26.200 about things like that. So I don't see that what Trudeau is doing is democratic or Canadian.

00:34:32.960 It's unfair that Justin Trudeau is doing this to everybody. I mean, I think if crime's going

00:34:42.620 to happen, it's going to happen anyways.

00:34:45.320 With this is that the first thing they do is they come and they take all your guns away.

00:34:49.320 So you know, depending on your jurisdiction, there's going to be doors kicked in, right?

00:34:55.060 It's not going to be pleasant. Hey, you know, J.R., you know, there's been a complaint by

00:34:58.860 somebody, you know, we're going to suspend your license, right? Just, you know, while

00:35:01.820 you're working. So, you know, you can't have firearms or we're going to come and get your

00:35:05.400 firearms from you or, you know, like that. It's going to be a door kick in.

00:35:08.820 So that's what I was going to get to and ask was they have tweaked it. So it's not the current,

00:35:13.500 like a spouse's concern. So they contact and they investigate. They have amended it so that it

00:35:18.020 is more aggressive and people could theoretically politically target people, report them and

00:35:24.140 see people's fundamental rights taken away.

00:35:25.900 Oh, 100 percent. And you know, this is going to like I'm waiting. I wonder how many days

00:35:31.140 after this is enacted that there'll be some complaint about me. Like every gun shop owner

00:35:35.460 will have a complaint against them. Like it's just going to be one of those things because

00:35:38.940 the left plays dirty. Like they play so dirty that there's there's no honor amongst those

00:35:45.380 thieves. Yeah. Right. And so it'll just be they'll just start targeting anybody who owns 0.67

00:35:49.800 firearms. It'll just be one of those things. It's going to be the brown shirts. I mean, 1.00

00:35:53.380 making these complaints and all of a sudden, you know, anybody who has collections, oh, you

00:35:58.360 know, he waved a gun around like, no, he didn't. But they're going to come take the guns away.

00:36:03.080 And then you can spend the twenty, thirty thousand dollars to fight it. We need to get your guns

00:36:07.020 back. But, you know, you're you're screwed. Yeah. Just like they now with the they automatically 1.00

00:36:13.980 make registration certificates expire when they change a classification, which takes away

00:36:19.140 your ability to have a Section 71 referral. Like you can't fight these things like they're

00:36:23.580 taking it. So you can't go to the courts for remedies now. Yeah. That's the thing is that's

00:36:27.920 very undemocratic. Yeah. Right. You should always have a remedy through the courts if you've

00:36:33.460 been wronged. How can I safely, effectively defend myself against somebody bigger than

00:36:42.180 me that is intending to hurt myself, my family, come into my home? We're not big ladies. We 0.85

00:36:50.640 need something sometimes if it comes to that, I think. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't say it's a direct

00:36:56.820 attack on legal gun owners, but I think it's just more of like a ploy to pretend he's doing

00:37:00.700 something about people's safety rather than actually doing something about safety. Like

00:37:06.920 instead of cracking down on illegal guns coming over the border, which are the majority of

00:37:10.460 the ones used in violent crimes. Yeah. He's yeah, basically attacking legal gun owners instead 0.64

00:37:16.820 of cracking down on illegal gun owners and illegal importation of firearms. We promised to go even

00:37:22.760 further to protect our communities. Taxpayers are going to be in for a sticker shock on how much

00:37:27.460 they're going to pay, you know, for this that does nothing for public safety. Like if it did,

00:37:33.680 if this honestly, if I honestly believe this had a chance of doing anything for like of a sizable

00:37:40.960 measure for public safety, not onesie, twosie, but size will measure. I'd probably be more behind it,

00:37:46.520 but I know it's not. Yeah. Right. Other jurisdictions have shown that the people tout Australia. Okay. They got

00:37:52.360 would have, so the gun mass murderers have gone away. They've had 18 or 19 mass killings using knives

00:37:59.980 and arrows, bow and arrows, like guys using crossbows since they banned guns. So nobody's talking about it,

00:38:06.580 but they've had more since. What this means is that it will no longer be possible to buy, sell,

00:38:13.420 transfer, or import handguns anywhere in Canada. In other words, we're capping the market for handguns.

00:38:26.040 Well, I want to thank JR and the Shooting Edge so much for having us out today. I think it's important

00:38:30.460 to get a perspective from inside the industry, from someone who really knows this stuff. So many

00:38:35.160 people out there really don't know much about the industry, don't know much about the sports,

00:38:39.040 surrounding firearms, target shooting, hunting, all of that good stuff, and the extent to which

00:38:43.080 these restrictions will affect them. So once again, grateful to have JR sort of breaking this down

00:38:47.940 for us and giving us some practical outlooks on what may result as a result of Justin Trudeau's

00:38:52.640 latest attack on legal firearm owners in Canada. As always, I want to thank you all so much for

00:38:57.020 tuning in. For Rebel News, I'm Adam Sos.

Rebel News Podcast - June 02, 2022

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