EZRA LEVANT ｜ Another Canadian church is torched — the media doesn't care
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Another Canadian church is torched, and the media doesn t care. Is it an act of anti-Christian vandalism, or is it part of a larger pattern of attacks on Canadian churches and cathedrals by Muslims? On this episode of The Ezra Levant Show, host Ezra Levant takes you on a trip to find out.
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Hello, my friends. I saw that a church in Majerville, New Brunswick, was torched. So I
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immediately got on a plane and went out to investigate. That is the subject of today's
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show. I'll show you what I found when I got to the church. I'll show you the scorch marks. I'll
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another canadian church is torched and the media doesn't care it's march 23rd and this is the
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Ezra Levant show. Shame on you, you censorious bug. Oh, hi, everybody. On Saturday, I came across
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this tweet online showing what purported to be a church in New Brunswick just blazing on fire at
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night. And I started poking around to see if I could confirm it. And I didn't see any confirmation
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by any authoritative media or regime media or really anyone, but it looked like a legitimate
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photo. And, uh, this was on Saturday when I saw it. So I, I booked a flight. I found out where
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this church was. It was about 20 minutes South of Frederickton, New Brunswick. And I just went
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there by myself. I couldn't get a cameraman with me on zero notice. So I went with my selfie stick
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and I flew out there and I managed to find the church. It's actually not too far away
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from CFP Gagetown. That's the Canadian Forces base there. And it was right on the road actually.
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And the church indeed had been burnt, but not to the ground. It looked like it had been extinguished.
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And I studied about the church. I looked it up online. I read a little bit about it. Actually,
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as I was filming, an elderly couple came up to ask me a little bit about it. They had heard
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of it, but I still haven't seen any reportage on this subject in any mainstream media or any media
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really, other than that first tweet. So here's my report. And it wasn't quite what I thought.
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I thought by looking at that first image on Twitter, that this thing would have been burnt
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to a crisp. I also thought that it would have been more hidden away from the main road, but this was
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right on the road, right across from the St. John River, and they were actually neighbors a few
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hundred feet away, so they would have seen the fire quite quickly and put it out before it consumed
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the whole church. I think it's also an important point to note that the church has not been used
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for several years. It flooded, and there wasn't funds to fix it or rebuild it. I'm a little bit
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skeptical about that. They say they don't want to rebuild where it is, but the church has been there
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for more than 150 years the church actually predates canada's confederation so there's
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obviously a lot of history and culture and memory there but they stripped the church rather of the
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stained glass and all the holy items and moved away and so in a way the church is an abandoned
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building now and i don't know if this church would have been attacked as an anti-christian act
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or just a random act of arson, which sometimes happens to abandoned buildings. But I can tell
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you this, if there had been dozens or even by some counts more than a hundred Christian churches
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vandalized or torched, some of the massive cathedrals in this country, if that pattern
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had happened for another religion, Islam, for example, if a pattern of mosques being torched,
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you bet that would be front page news. The funny thing is there have been synagogues
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attacked by firebombs, bullet fire, smash glass. And the media doesn't know what to do with it
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because they, you know, it's a terrible scandalous story, but they also know that the likely
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bandits are Muslim migrants. And so political correctness makes they want to downplay
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the attacks on Jewish synagogues. Anyhow, here is my report that I filmed from just south of
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Fredericton in a little town called Majorville. Here's my report on the church that was burnt
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and, I don't know, its place in this story. Take a look. What do you think?
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Ezra Levant for Rebel News. I am in Majorville, New Brunswick, about a 20-minute drive south of
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Fredericton across the St. John River is Canadian Forces Base Gage Town. And behind me, as you can
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see is a church a church almost 200 years ago it was actually constructed before canada was even an
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independent country as you can see it's been torched i saw a tweet yesterday that the church
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had been set ablaze and it certainly was a fiery picture so i hopped on a plane and came here i
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arrived this morning and i made a beeline for the church you can see that indeed it was torched or
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least the door was but it must have either died out or been put out fairly quickly because the
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rest of the church has not been consumed uh it looks like the door itself is quite heavy material
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and probably would have taken a lot of effort by the fire to penetrate another thing that i noticed
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quite quickly was that the church is very close to neighbors who live here so some of the churches
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that have been burnt in Canada over the last few years
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where it wouldn't have been spotted so quickly.
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marks more than 100 churches in the last decade
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that have been vandalized, torched a little bit,
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or literally burnt to the ground in a crime spree,
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that has really gone unremarked on by the regime media.
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Now, I must confess that this minor torching is probably not a national headline,
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but if this were a mosque, I can assure you it would be.
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This case is a little bit more complicated in that the church, as you can see, is in disrepair.
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and the church said it didn't have the money to make the necessary repairs,
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So they removed the stained glass windows, they said, and deconsecrated the church.
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They have not actually held services here in several years.
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And I saw some gravestones that are more than 200 years old.
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There's an enormous amount of history in this place dating back to the American Revolutionary War
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And then the Brits, who were loyal to the king, came north.
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But obviously, it being a church, so its most important legacy is the religious history has.
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Imagine how many weddings and funerals and coming-of-age moments, life-cycle events,
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have been celebrated at this church over nearly 200 years.
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Imagine the schools that were taught here, the Sunday schools.
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This would have been a community center as well as a church.
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It would have been everything in this community.
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It's made in a certain style that was sort of cookie-cuttered across New Brunswick.
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A bit of a hatchet, say, street to a medieval church in the Epe, but also built in 19th century technology.
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It's a beautiful church, and even driving from Strictan to here in Majerville, I passed several churches that look very similar to this.
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It's a little bit depressing to see a house of worship that has such history fall into disrepair and everyone just shrugging their shoulders.
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I understand this has been deemed a national historic site, but nothing has flowed from that.
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There's no repairs, and the diocese, the Anglican Diocese, says it basically doesn't have the means to do anything with it.
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In a way, that's a symbol, I think, for the state of Christianity in Canada today, under attack, in disrepair, and everyone shrugging their shoulders.
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because if there had been 100 attacks on jewish synagogues or muslim mosques or a gay or a black
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or another uh characteristic associated with a community center let's say this would have been
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huge national news i checked and other than that one twitter tweet that i saw that caused me to
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come out here i saw no coverage of it and again maybe you would say well look it's an abandoned
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building. The fact that its door was torched and the fire was put out isn't news. I accept that,
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but I also accept, and I know in my bones, that far more minor things than this have received
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national coverage, including statements from the Prime Minister if it's targeting a Muslim mosque.
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I think Canada has definitely taken a turn towards anti-Christian antipathy in the last
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decade. I think Justin Trudeau really egged that on. I think a lot of the accusations about
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residential schools are a collateral attack on churches, not just on Canada, an attempt to
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redefine Canada as a genocidal country, but an attack on the church that ran many of those
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schools. When I worked at the National Post more than 20 years ago, we had an editorial board
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meeting with the government bureaucrat in charge of claims against the government and against
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Catholic Church, who are a beast at the after-denture schools, and I have never met anyone in my life
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more gleeful about attacking the church. He knew that from his position in the government, he could
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do more damage to the church from Canada than probably anyone else. Justin Trudeau certainly
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helped, and the current mania about saying that there are the maze of Indigenous children buried
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across the country in mass grates, a total fabrication. Again, it's designed to denormalize
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and marginalize, I think, churches. And this was accelerated by Gerald Butz, the former senior
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advisor to Justin Trudeau, who said that the arson and the other attacks was, quote,
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understandable. He said that. It's like he fired a starter pistol for the crime wave.
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I think that we have to understand that sometimes abandoned buildings, whether they're a church or an old house, get torched by kids being hooligans, by pyromaniacs, I don't know.
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And this could be that. But when you have more than 100 incidents, you can no longer say you can't see a pattern.
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I personally reported from a massive theadral in Toronto that was torched.
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It was an enormous church, not quite on the scale of the Notre Dame in Paris, but it was one of the mightiest churches in all of Toronto.
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I went to a church in small-town Manitoba that was torched, and nothing came from it.
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And if there had been a wave of attacks on mosques, you would have had a task force of
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the RCMP, of CSIS, perhaps of the military, and they would be hunting for the arsonists
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It's a bit of a mixed bag when it comes to Jewish synagogues that have been shot up in
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And frankly, in the last few weeks, three synagogues in my hometown of Toronto have
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And you can see the police are sort of caught between their desire to do policing, but the
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political demands that they not reveal that it's most likely anti-Semitic foreigners who have come
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to Canada in Trudeau's and Carney's massive waves of immigration, including the 700 agents of Iran
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who work for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a named terrorist group. I think we have
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to realize that Christianity was the basis of Canada.
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That's what made it so hospitable to minorities such as myself.
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I mentioned earlier how Justin Trudeau undermines the Catholic Church
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It's the same thing with tearing down statues of Sir John A. Macdonald or Queen Victoria.
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It's part of destroying and demuting our past, condemning our past to allow some unknown beauty to come in.
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To me, one of the most symbolic moments was stripping Sir John A. Macdonald off our $10 bill.
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I think that it's an attempt to disroot us, to uproot us, to pull us out by our roots.
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In France, churches are torched quite frequently, including the spectacular fire at one of the
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most beautiful churches in the world, the Notre Dame Cathedral.
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The government announced it wasn't terrorism before the investigation was even done.
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They certainly didn't want people to get the wrong idea.
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Now, that church of Beanley built quite quickly with massive donations from the public.
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The mystery of Notre-Dame-de-Libre is the history of France itself.
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I think here in Canada, we don't have such a passionate response.
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You might recall that our reporter, Drea Humphrey, put a question about churches being attacked to the candidates at the 2025 election debates.
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And what a disgusting answer from Jagmeet Singh of the NDP.
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Your party takes great pride in standing against hate,
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such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online...
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You know where I'm going to go with this, though, right?
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I'm just going to say you know where I'm going to go with it, though.
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Your party takes pride in standing against hate,
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such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online hate speech.
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Yet you stay silent about ongoing attacks against Christians,
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Even after Conservative MP Jamil Javani's order paper question revealed that over 200 churches have been targeted by arson and vandalism since claims of remains being discovered at former residential schools swept the nation in 2021.
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These claims have been disproven by bans that excavated and remain unproven by those that have not.
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Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today
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and explain what your party will do moving forward
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Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization
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that promotes misinformation and disinformation like Rebel News,
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so no, I'm not going to respond to your question.
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Over 200 Christian places of worship have been attacked in Canada since 2021.
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Many served First Nations communities, many were historic, and they diverted police and resources and put others at risk.
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What do you say to Canadians who see your refusal to answer, especially from one of the few media outlets here that are not funded by the state,
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the state as proof that a vote for you is a vote for a dangerous radical party that gaslights the
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public into thinking it stands against hate when its silence is instead emboldening Christophobia.
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Your question is another example of why I don't respond to agencies like Rebel News that promote
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misinformation and disinformation. You imagine him waving off any question about attacks on
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Moss. He frankly probably would have waved off a question about attacks on synagogues to be fair.
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We're interested in this story because our motto at Rebel News is telling the other side of the story.
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And I'm frankly glad that the fire destruction is modest.
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But I am feeling a little bit forlorn about the state of this church.
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I think it's symbolic for the state of Christianity in the public square in Canada.
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And it's not just direct attacks on the church.
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It's collateral attacks, such as transgenderism, which goes contrary to Christian belief.
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If you don't bend the knee to transgenderism, well, as Barry Neufeld, a school trustee in British Columbia, recently found out, you can be fined $750,000 for having the wrong idea.
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So whether it's the false accusations that the church was involved in genocide, or the false accusations to undermine the church officially, or the attacks on, for example, the culture of life promoted by the churches, Canada's unfortunate leadership position in the world with medical assistance in dying, which is the new way of saying euthanasia.
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I really feel like Canada's churches are under attack, and I feel like it's not being covered by the regime media.
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In fact, frankly, I think they sort of smile whenever they see it.
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If there is a church that is attacked in Canada, I'm not sure what Rebel News can do about it, other than tell you about it.
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If you think this journalism was venues, and if you know that you wouldn't see it on the CBC, stop by our website at saveourchurches.ca.
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It cost me a few hundred bucks to get out here today, including a car rental and a flight.
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If you can help me defray my expenses, I'd be grateful.
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I promise that Rebel News will continue asking questions about the long-running anti-Christian crime wave,
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whether it's putting those questions to political candidates like Dr. A. Humphrey did
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or visiting churches that were torched just yesterday.
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I'm glad I went out there. I'm glad it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
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but there's another sorrow there that the church is abandoned and no one really cares and no one
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wants to you know clean it up and no one goes there and i i don't know who would have torched
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i just don't know uh i don't think the police really care either um it just looks like no one
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cares here's a church that has fallen into disuse and i think that that's somehow sort of a microcosm
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for a larger society and it makes me sad um so that's that let me know what you think and
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And I like covering these stories, not because I like the stories, but because I like ending
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the cone of silence that the regime media has put on it.
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I mean, you might recall, I went to that major cathedral in Toronto that was burnt down.
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That was an enormous church, and that was found to be arson.
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Up next, my interview with my friend from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
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well i don't have a lot of time for many liberal cabinet ministers but you know when i was in
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davos switzerland at the world economic forum i bumped into francois philippe champagne who has
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had various ministries under justin trudeau now mark carney and instead of running away or insulting
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me like justin trudeau or christian freeland he actually talked to me now he didn't say a lot
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substantively i asked him a bit and he gave very pat answers but i have to give him a little bit
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of credit for not running away uh screaming the rebels the rebels and he actually came back and
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he shook my hand a second time and i know these things should not alter my perception of the man's
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substance we should treat him based on his policies and what he does but just on a personal note i
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found him to be a better man than justin trudeau or many of the other liberals who simply run
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shrieking when they see rebels. That said, Francois Philippe Champagne said something
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quite curious the other day. I read about it in one of my favorite sources, Black Locks,
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which is one of the rare media outlets in Canada that doesn't take government funding.
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And it was a strange thing to hear. It was from Francois Philippe Champagne who said,
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and I'm quoting here, we said we were going to spend less so we can spend more. That's like
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some strange sort of haiku or something there's there's a double meaning there i think and then
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he said we found 60 billion dollars of savings across different departments of the government
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of canada i'm not i haven't gone deep to exactly what this means but um if you found 60 billion
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dollars in savings brother why are we looking at a deficit even larger than that joining us now to
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help figure out this very curious puzzle and to talk about other things is our friend franco
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terzano the big boss of the canadian taxpayers federation franco um i don't get it if he found
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60 billion dollars in savings why are we running a deficit even bigger than that well ezra i'm on
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a diet it's going great i'm eating less burgers so i can eat more pizza that's exactly it that's
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exactly what he said like come on right and and you know a couple things on this so champagne is
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essentially just regurgitating what was in Carney's first budget that was presented late last
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year okay so essentially the government wants people to think that they're cutting wasteful
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spending and yet every single year spending is going up by billions of dollars so you know pro
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tip to the prime minister pro tip to the finance minister uh when you're increasing spending by
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billions of dollars every single year you're saving money wrong another thing all of the
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savings that they're promising happen in future years, right? We've seen this before from the
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Trudeau government many, many times. You know, when the government promises to start a diet on
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Monday, Monday never comes. And Ezra, one last thing, okay? Here's what we do actually know.
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The government tabled its main estimates a couple of weeks ago. That's the main spending plan for
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the year ahead. Well, guess what? Spending is going up another $18 billion in the upcoming year.
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yeah i knew i i shouldn't believe it was just such an astonishing thing for him to say you know um
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that future cuts they also do that with future spending though i i saw a few days ago that mark
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carney announced over 30 billion dollars in defense spending much of it focused on the arctic
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but the liberals made that exact same announcement i think four years ago from the arctic so both for
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they're going to cut later um but also they're going to spend on things they don't love they
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don't love spending on defense they think it's too pro-american they think it's too militaristic
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they have other it doesn't buy them the votes they need so they just re-announce they've re-announced
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the spending they've re-announced the cuts i don't know it's very hard to take them at face value
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can i talk about something else with you that i i think is a little bit of gaslighting on their part
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and i use the word gas advisedly let me read the headline in well you know this because you wrote
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this. This is from your website. The headline is Scrap Carbon Taxes and Cut Gas Taxes to Ease Pump
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Prices. And that's on people's mind because, of course, the war in the Persian Gulf, that's where
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a big chunk of the world's oil come from. And even though the oil we use here doesn't usually come
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from there, when you reduce global supply, you're going to raise global prices because it's a
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globally priced commodity so we're feeling the higher pump prices here now some people would say
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hey mark carney already reduced the carbon tax to zero what carbon tax what gas pump taxes are
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you talking about that goes to another level of government deception too doesn't tell me what you
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mean oh it sure does look number one okay don't let these politicians off the hook right like they
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have been gouging you at the pumps for years and years and years so uh yeah they can't stop a war
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that's waging halfway around the world but they can stop taking so much money from you every time
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you go to fuel up so ezra to get right into your question on these hidden carbon taxes look
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carney didn't end all carbon taxes right to use his own word during the last election campaign
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he wanted to change the carbon tax okay so carney has canceled the consumer facing carbon tax but
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is increasing two other carbon taxes that are hidden, but inflict similar costs. The first one
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is a Trudeau era carbon tax. It was buried in fuel regulations. It increases the cost of gas
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by about seven cents per liter this year. The other one is a hidden carbon tax on Canadian
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business, the industrial carbon tax. And let me tell you, it is the worst of all worlds. Okay.
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it is hidden it makes life more expensive and it cuts canadian jobs so really the worst of all
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worlds you know i think uh the gst was brought in perhaps you weren't even born yet franco you were
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just a little baby back then uh but one of the arguments for the gst was that it was visible
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and that you it wasn't sneaky and yeah people hated it and that was sort of part of the point
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is that it wasn't tucked away so you couldn't see it and there was something i sort of respected
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about that argument and i feel that a drop of resentment every time i see them in a restaurant
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they break out the gst or the hst absolutely i feel that way um and that's exactly the opposite
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of what mark carney did on on carbon taxes didn't he he removed like you say the public facing ones
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but this is news to me that they're jacking up other ones and there's some cities does vancouver
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still have a special gasoline tax like there's some special jurisdictions that really go the
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extra mile in punishing their people don't they i think vancouver is one of them yeah that's correct
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vancouver montreal and victoria also have their own little municipal gas taxes so folks look at
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all the different ways you're getting soaked here okay you got a federal gas tax not the carbon tax
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a federal gas tax then you have provincial gas tax then you have these hidden carbon taxes that
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ottawa is still imposing then you have some municipal taxes on gas right vancouver montreal
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and victoria uh and then you have even federal and some provinces imposing their sales taxes
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on top of all these other taxes it's really a tax on tax yeah right so uh think about this all the
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ways so you look at vancouver and montreal some of these big taxing jurisdictions okay you're
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looking at like 65 cents per liter of gas in taxes alone yeah you know and it really is the price of
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it's built into the price of everything you cannot get around canada without gasoline especially in
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the winter time i mean um it just adds to everything it's it's it really and it's regressive
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too it's like a tax on bread if you're a rich person a tax on bread is no skin off your nose
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but if you're poor it's a really large part like you just can't get around the basics of
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transportation and heating it i think it's a really regressive tax um is there any chance
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that these will be reduced i mean just any chance at all i i think it was a stroke of political
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genius by mark carney to to nix the carbon tax really as soon as he declared his candidacy for
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the liberal leadership because it took away uh the number one argument against the liberals number
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one policy argument i guess for this to continue taxes would have to become such a political
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penalty such a a burden politically and i just don't think they're there yet on at least on gas
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taxes right yeah but if you told me a couple years ago that it was going to be a liberal that
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canceled a liberal's favorite tax ezra i might have thought you were crazy right so that's the
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whole thing keep up the pressure i want to go back to that regressive issue that you mentioned ezra
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because it's not just you who admits it the government admits it as well in its own reports
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on the hidden carbon tax through fuel regulations right specifically saying that it's going to hurt
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people who are already struggling through energy poverty specifically pointing to single mothers
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seniors living on fixed income so you don't trust me well look at the government reports i don't
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know why you would trust the government more than me but hey who knows the next thing i want to talk
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about is this industrial carbon tax uh ezra and here's why okay because for the better part of a
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decade the government tried to convince canadians that the carbon tax made them richer okay canadians
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didn't believe it then they don't believe it now we have polling shows that the vast majority of
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Canadians understand the simple reality. When you carbon tax refineries, you make it more expensive
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to drive. When you carbon tax fertilizer plants, you make it more expensive to eat. And when you
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carbon tax electricity, well, you make it more expensive to live. Yeah. You know, one of the
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ways that people make a little extra money on the side are little gigs like driving Uber or DoorDash
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or some of these little things where you can run around town. I mean, a gas tax goes straight at
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those people trying to make a go of it and i say again you're a millionaire you drive to work you're
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a poor person you drive to work you're using approximately the same amount of gas i would
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imagine but that's obviously a much bigger percentage burden for the for the lower income
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person i really hate these taxes that are regressive it reminds me of when and i'm just
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changing subjects here but it reminds me of when there was this price fixing amongst the grocery
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stores to raise the cost of bread which i thought was really targeting poor people i feel like
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raising the cost of bread and raising the cost of gas have the same morality level, which is
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negative. I'm glad you guys are out there fighting like hell, Franco. Thanks for joining us today.
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Hey, thank you, Ezra. There he is, Franco Teresano of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Stay with us
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more ahead. Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me about the Al-Quds Day protest.
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uh got the single life says forget canada most western countries are blind to this
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and many get into various government positions and then the push for the radical agendas from
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within this is the modern trojan horse with the traders opening the gates thinking it would
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save them by voting them back in only to find the rapid decline in the society i i think that's
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exactly right opening the gates from within i think that um that's really how it ends is someone
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on the inside says, oh, just let them in. And we see that, the entryism in school boards,
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for example, how now, I mean, not just for Islamism, for all sorts of woke ideas, and
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they were let in. Joseph Lawson says on Mark Carney's flip-flops, so Canada sent billions
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of dollars to Ukraine in order to help that country prosecute its war with Russia, yet
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Canada's own warships apparently are not outfitted to modern levels. What is going on?
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yeah it's just incredible i mean imagine sending our ships and our ships cannot defend themselves
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let alone be of use to others i mean what is the point of having the ships if they are of no use
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what is the point i maybe all they're good for is taking on those little somali pirates or something
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which is i think a mission they had in the past but even now i doubt that because the somali pirates
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well there's a lot of pirates around there including the houthis who have modern technology
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that could probably sink god forbid one of our ships on cbc haley's mom says is if cbc is the
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voice of canada why do they turn off their comments so canadians can't have a voice well
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that's such a great point um on twitter as you know or access is now called uh you can reply
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you can debate you can give feedback to uh to whoever posts something but that can be turned
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off by the main user and so often the cbc does that it's really a tell that they know their
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own people hate them and vice versa well that's our show for the day i hope you enjoyed my short
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visit to fredereton i always love going on to atlantic ken i was out there a couple months
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ago in nova scotia it really is a beautiful part of the country just in terms of its raw geographic
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beauty but also the people are so friendly i i mean listen there's friendly people everywhere
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in this country i like to think that where i'm from calgary is a pretty friendly city but i think
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there's something really collegial and community-like about the Atlantic. And whenever I go
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there, I feel a nostalgia for it, even though I'm not from there. I guess it makes me think of what
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the whole of Canada was like 30 or 40 years ago. There's that community feeling, that high trust
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feeling. And I really love my short visit there. That's our show for the day. Until next time,
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on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and