Rebel News Podcast - March 23, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Another Canadian church is torched — the media doesn't care


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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I saw that a church in Majerville, New Brunswick, was torched. So I
00:00:06.160 immediately got on a plane and went out to investigate. That is the subject of today's
00:00:10.600 show. I'll show you what I found when I got to the church. I'll show you the scorch marks. I'll
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00:01:07.780 another canadian church is torched and the media doesn't care it's march 23rd and this is the
00:01:28.600 Ezra Levant show. Shame on you, you censorious bug. Oh, hi, everybody. On Saturday, I came across
00:01:47.460 this tweet online showing what purported to be a church in New Brunswick just blazing on fire at
00:01:56.000 night. And I started poking around to see if I could confirm it. And I didn't see any confirmation
00:02:01.100 by any authoritative media or regime media or really anyone, but it looked like a legitimate
00:02:09.300 photo. And, uh, this was on Saturday when I saw it. So I, I booked a flight. I found out where
00:02:16.500 this church was. It was about 20 minutes South of Frederickton, New Brunswick. And I just went
00:02:22.260 there by myself. I couldn't get a cameraman with me on zero notice. So I went with my selfie stick
00:02:28.000 and I flew out there and I managed to find the church. It's actually not too far away
00:02:33.320 from CFP Gagetown. That's the Canadian Forces base there. And it was right on the road actually.
00:02:39.600 And the church indeed had been burnt, but not to the ground. It looked like it had been extinguished.
00:02:47.200 And I studied about the church. I looked it up online. I read a little bit about it. Actually,
00:02:51.360 as I was filming, an elderly couple came up to ask me a little bit about it. They had heard
00:02:55.840 of it, but I still haven't seen any reportage on this subject in any mainstream media or any media
00:03:01.720 really, other than that first tweet. So here's my report. And it wasn't quite what I thought.
00:03:08.640 I thought by looking at that first image on Twitter, that this thing would have been burnt
00:03:12.200 to a crisp. I also thought that it would have been more hidden away from the main road, but this was
00:03:17.280 right on the road, right across from the St. John River, and they were actually neighbors a few
00:03:23.200 hundred feet away, so they would have seen the fire quite quickly and put it out before it consumed
00:03:27.180 the whole church. I think it's also an important point to note that the church has not been used
00:03:32.120 for several years. It flooded, and there wasn't funds to fix it or rebuild it. I'm a little bit
00:03:38.340 skeptical about that. They say they don't want to rebuild where it is, but the church has been there
00:03:42.360 for more than 150 years the church actually predates canada's confederation so there's
00:03:48.620 obviously a lot of history and culture and memory there but they stripped the church rather of the
00:03:53.400 stained glass and all the holy items and moved away and so in a way the church is an abandoned
00:03:59.720 building now and i don't know if this church would have been attacked as an anti-christian act
00:04:05.760 or just a random act of arson, which sometimes happens to abandoned buildings. But I can tell
00:04:12.380 you this, if there had been dozens or even by some counts more than a hundred Christian churches
00:04:18.940 vandalized or torched, some of the massive cathedrals in this country, if that pattern
00:04:24.180 had happened for another religion, Islam, for example, if a pattern of mosques being torched,
00:04:30.240 you bet that would be front page news. The funny thing is there have been synagogues
00:04:34.380 attacked by firebombs, bullet fire, smash glass. And the media doesn't know what to do with it
00:04:41.420 because they, you know, it's a terrible scandalous story, but they also know that the likely
00:04:46.600 bandits are Muslim migrants. And so political correctness makes they want to downplay
00:04:52.220 the attacks on Jewish synagogues. Anyhow, here is my report that I filmed from just south of
00:04:58.940 Fredericton in a little town called Majorville. Here's my report on the church that was burnt
00:05:06.900 and, I don't know, its place in this story. Take a look. What do you think?
00:05:14.060 Ezra Levant for Rebel News. I am in Majorville, New Brunswick, about a 20-minute drive south of
00:05:20.940 Fredericton across the St. John River is Canadian Forces Base Gage Town. And behind me, as you can
00:05:27.640 see is a church a church almost 200 years ago it was actually constructed before canada was even an
00:05:35.560 independent country as you can see it's been torched i saw a tweet yesterday that the church
00:05:42.860 had been set ablaze and it certainly was a fiery picture so i hopped on a plane and came here i
00:05:48.260 arrived this morning and i made a beeline for the church you can see that indeed it was torched or
00:05:54.140 least the door was but it must have either died out or been put out fairly quickly because the
00:05:59.980 rest of the church has not been consumed uh it looks like the door itself is quite heavy material
00:06:06.940 and probably would have taken a lot of effort by the fire to penetrate another thing that i noticed
00:06:12.700 quite quickly was that the church is very close to neighbors who live here so some of the churches
00:06:19.340 that have been burnt in Canada over the last few years
00:06:22.460 are in remote rural places
00:06:24.180 where it wouldn't have been spotted so quickly.
00:06:26.660 The reason I came here is because this church
00:06:29.800 marks more than 100 churches in the last decade
00:06:34.640 that have been vandalized, torched a little bit,
00:06:38.180 or literally burnt to the ground in a crime spree,
00:06:42.420 an anti-Christian hate crime wave
00:06:45.940 that has really gone unremarked on by the regime media.
00:06:50.280 Now, I must confess that this minor torching is probably not a national headline,
00:06:57.460 but if this were a mosque, I can assure you it would be.
00:07:00.580 This case is a little bit more complicated in that the church, as you can see, is in disrepair.
00:07:05.920 It was flooded in 2017 and then again in 2018,
00:07:09.500 and the church said it didn't have the money to make the necessary repairs,
00:07:13.680 So they removed the stained glass windows, they said, and deconsecrated the church.
00:07:19.380 They have not actually held services here in several years.
00:07:22.660 So it is effectively an abandoned building.
00:07:25.820 That said, it is almost 200 years of history.
00:07:29.340 And behind it is a graveyard.
00:07:31.720 And I walked through it very carefully.
00:07:33.600 And I saw some gravestones that are more than 200 years old.
00:07:37.820 There's an enormous amount of history in this place dating back to the American Revolutionary War
00:07:42.900 And then the Brits, who were loyal to the king, came north.
00:07:46.720 It's a very interesting history.
00:07:48.680 But obviously, it being a church, so its most important legacy is the religious history has.
00:07:54.660 Imagine how many weddings and funerals and coming-of-age moments, life-cycle events,
00:08:00.700 have been celebrated at this church over nearly 200 years.
00:08:04.640 Imagine the schools that were taught here, the Sunday schools.
00:08:08.800 Imagine the bake sales, the charity work.
00:08:11.880 This would have been a community center as well as a church.
00:08:15.300 It would have been a food bank.
00:08:17.060 It would have been everything in this community.
00:08:19.260 It's architecturally significant.
00:08:21.360 It's made in a certain style that was sort of cookie-cuttered across New Brunswick.
00:08:27.320 More than 100 churches, very similar to this.
00:08:30.380 A bit of a hatchet, say, street to a medieval church in the Epe, but also built in 19th century technology.
00:08:38.020 It's a beautiful church, and even driving from Strictan to here in Majerville, I passed several churches that look very similar to this.
00:08:47.160 It's a little bit depressing to see a house of worship that has such history fall into disrepair and everyone just shrugging their shoulders.
00:08:54.900 I understand this has been deemed a national historic site, but nothing has flowed from that.
00:09:02.360 There's no repairs, and the diocese, the Anglican Diocese, says it basically doesn't have the means to do anything with it.
00:09:10.860 They don't seem much interested.
00:09:13.160 In a way, that's a symbol, I think, for the state of Christianity in Canada today, under attack, in disrepair, and everyone shrugging their shoulders.
00:09:23.860 I find that very depressing.
00:09:25.380 But there is a menace to this.
00:09:26.980 There is a serious side as well.
00:09:28.900 because if there had been 100 attacks on jewish synagogues or muslim mosques or a gay or a black
00:09:39.480 or another uh characteristic associated with a community center let's say this would have been
00:09:46.540 huge national news i checked and other than that one twitter tweet that i saw that caused me to
00:09:51.460 come out here i saw no coverage of it and again maybe you would say well look it's an abandoned
00:09:55.340 building. The fact that its door was torched and the fire was put out isn't news. I accept that,
00:10:00.500 but I also accept, and I know in my bones, that far more minor things than this have received
00:10:06.960 national coverage, including statements from the Prime Minister if it's targeting a Muslim mosque.
00:10:13.100 I think Canada has definitely taken a turn towards anti-Christian antipathy in the last
00:10:19.880 decade. I think Justin Trudeau really egged that on. I think a lot of the accusations about
00:10:26.060 residential schools are a collateral attack on churches, not just on Canada, an attempt to
00:10:32.220 redefine Canada as a genocidal country, but an attack on the church that ran many of those
00:10:36.520 schools. When I worked at the National Post more than 20 years ago, we had an editorial board
00:10:41.440 meeting with the government bureaucrat in charge of claims against the government and against
00:10:48.380 Catholic Church, who are a beast at the after-denture schools, and I have never met anyone in my life
00:10:52.960 more gleeful about attacking the church. He knew that from his position in the government, he could
00:10:58.380 do more damage to the church from Canada than probably anyone else. Justin Trudeau certainly
00:11:03.740 helped, and the current mania about saying that there are the maze of Indigenous children buried
00:11:12.580 across the country in mass grates, a total fabrication. Again, it's designed to denormalize
00:11:19.640 and marginalize, I think, churches. And this was accelerated by Gerald Butz, the former senior
00:11:27.220 advisor to Justin Trudeau, who said that the arson and the other attacks was, quote,
00:11:33.220 understandable. He said that. It's like he fired a starter pistol for the crime wave.
00:11:38.580 I think that we have to understand that sometimes abandoned buildings, whether they're a church or an old house, get torched by kids being hooligans, by pyromaniacs, I don't know.
00:11:50.880 And this could be that. But when you have more than 100 incidents, you can no longer say you can't see a pattern.
00:11:59.160 I personally reported from a massive theadral in Toronto that was torched.
00:12:03.660 It was an enormous church, not quite on the scale of the Notre Dame in Paris, but it was one of the mightiest churches in all of Toronto.
00:12:12.000 And nothing, nothing came from it.
00:12:14.380 I went to a church in small-town Manitoba that was torched, and nothing came from it.
00:12:19.820 That's my point.
00:12:20.480 And if there had been a wave of attacks on mosques, you would have had a task force of
00:12:28.240 the RCMP, of CSIS, perhaps of the military, and they would be hunting for the arsonists
00:12:34.540 high and low.
00:12:36.140 It's a bit of a mixed bag when it comes to Jewish synagogues that have been shot up in
00:12:39.820 recent years.
00:12:40.820 And frankly, in the last few weeks, three synagogues in my hometown of Toronto have
00:12:44.620 been shot.
00:12:45.620 And you can see the police are sort of caught between their desire to do policing, but the
00:12:50.980 political demands that they not reveal that it's most likely anti-Semitic foreigners who have come
00:12:58.240 to Canada in Trudeau's and Carney's massive waves of immigration, including the 700 agents of Iran
00:13:05.220 who work for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a named terrorist group. I think we have
00:13:11.680 to realize that Christianity was the basis of Canada.
00:13:15.560 And I see that, by the way, as a Jew.
00:13:17.760 And I'm glad, and I regard myself as lucky,
00:13:20.400 that Canada is and was a Christian country.
00:13:22.680 That's what made it so hospitable to minorities such as myself.
00:13:27.160 I think that we're losing some of that,
00:13:29.180 and we're certainly losing the respect for it.
00:13:30.760 I mentioned earlier how Justin Trudeau undermines the Catholic Church
00:13:34.840 and how Mark Carney continues that tradition.
00:13:37.640 It's the same thing with tearing down statues of Sir John A. Macdonald or Queen Victoria.
00:13:43.100 It's part of destroying and demuting our past, condemning our past to allow some unknown beauty to come in.
00:13:51.140 To me, one of the most symbolic moments was stripping Sir John A. Macdonald off our $10 bill.
00:13:56.980 I think that it's an attempt to disroot us, to uproot us, to pull us out by our roots.
00:14:03.220 And this church was part of our roots.
00:14:06.140 It's happening not just in Canada, of course.
00:14:08.840 In France, churches are torched quite frequently, including the spectacular fire at one of the
00:14:15.220 most beautiful churches in the world, the Notre Dame Cathedral.
00:14:18.860 The government announced it wasn't terrorism before the investigation was even done.
00:14:23.780 They certainly didn't want people to get the wrong idea.
00:14:26.660 Now, that church of Beanley built quite quickly with massive donations from the public.
00:14:31.840 It just so outrages people.
00:14:33.420 The mystery of Notre-Dame-de-Libre is the history of France itself.
00:14:37.720 I think here in Canada, we don't have such a passionate response.
00:14:41.840 You might recall that our reporter, Drea Humphrey, put a question about churches being attacked to the candidates at the 2025 election debates.
00:14:53.700 Here's how that went.
00:14:54.900 I thought it was an excellent question.
00:14:56.880 And what a disgusting answer from Jagmeet Singh of the NDP.
00:14:59.920 Take a look.
00:15:00.300 Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.
00:15:02.420 Your party takes great pride in standing against hate,
00:15:05.300 such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online...
00:15:07.680 Sorry, I didn't get your outlet.
00:15:09.880 Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.
00:15:11.300 Okay.
00:15:12.540 You know where I'm going to go with this, though, right?
00:15:15.200 Can I speak?
00:15:16.120 Yeah, you can.
00:15:16.660 I'm just going to say you know where I'm going to go with it, though.
00:15:18.640 Your party takes pride in standing against hate,
00:15:21.360 such as white supremacy, Islamophobia, and online hate speech.
00:15:25.500 Yet you stay silent about ongoing attacks against Christians,
00:15:29.100 Even after Conservative MP Jamil Javani's order paper question revealed that over 200 churches have been targeted by arson and vandalism since claims of remains being discovered at former residential schools swept the nation in 2021.
00:15:45.060 These claims have been disproven by bans that excavated and remain unproven by those that have not.
00:15:52.820 Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today
00:15:56.660 and explain what your party will do moving forward
00:16:00.300 to keep Christians safe from hate in Canada?
00:16:04.120 Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization
00:16:06.740 that promotes misinformation and disinformation like Rebel News,
00:16:10.740 so no, I'm not going to respond to your question.
00:16:12.420 Please keep the questions and answers short.
00:16:14.360 We're just getting up to the time.
00:16:16.780 Perhaps you didn't hear me.
00:16:18.240 Over 200 Christian places of worship have been attacked in Canada since 2021.
00:16:23.240 Many served First Nations communities, many were historic, and they diverted police and resources and put others at risk.
00:16:33.240 What do you say to Canadians who see your refusal to answer, especially from one of the few media outlets here that are not funded by the state,
00:16:41.240 the state as proof that a vote for you is a vote for a dangerous radical party that gaslights the
00:16:47.880 public into thinking it stands against hate when its silence is instead emboldening Christophobia.
00:16:54.420 Your question is another example of why I don't respond to agencies like Rebel News that promote
00:16:59.940 misinformation and disinformation. You imagine him waving off any question about attacks on
00:17:04.960 Moss. He frankly probably would have waved off a question about attacks on synagogues to be fair.
00:17:10.520 We're interested in this story because our motto at Rebel News is telling the other side of the story.
00:17:15.160 And I'm glad I came out here today.
00:17:16.860 And I'm frankly glad that the fire destruction is modest.
00:17:19.860 But I am feeling a little bit forlorn about the state of this church.
00:17:23.400 I think it's symbolic for the state of Christianity in the public square in Canada.
00:17:27.800 And it's not just direct attacks on the church.
00:17:30.700 It's collateral attacks, such as transgenderism, which goes contrary to Christian belief.
00:17:36.180 And it's been imposed on people.
00:17:37.680 If you don't bend the knee to transgenderism, well, as Barry Neufeld, a school trustee in British Columbia, recently found out, you can be fined $750,000 for having the wrong idea.
00:17:49.260 So whether it's the false accusations that the church was involved in genocide, or the false accusations to undermine the church officially, or the attacks on, for example, the culture of life promoted by the churches, Canada's unfortunate leadership position in the world with medical assistance in dying, which is the new way of saying euthanasia.
00:18:14.340 I really feel like Canada's churches are under attack, and I feel like it's not being covered by the regime media.
00:18:20.820 In fact, frankly, I think they sort of smile whenever they see it.
00:18:24.760 If there is a church that is attacked in Canada, I'm not sure what Rebel News can do about it, other than tell you about it.
00:18:31.160 So at least you know what's going on.
00:18:33.700 If you think this journalism was venues, and if you know that you wouldn't see it on the CBC, stop by our website at saveourchurches.ca.
00:18:42.140 It cost me a few hundred bucks to get out here today, including a car rental and a flight.
00:18:47.220 If you can help me defray my expenses, I'd be grateful.
00:18:49.960 I promise that Rebel News will continue asking questions about the long-running anti-Christian crime wave,
00:18:57.020 whether it's putting those questions to political candidates like Dr. A. Humphrey did
00:19:00.360 or visiting churches that were torched just yesterday.
00:19:06.100 I'm glad I went out there. I'm glad it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
00:19:10.180 but there's another sorrow there that the church is abandoned and no one really cares and no one
00:19:15.640 wants to you know clean it up and no one goes there and i i don't know who would have torched
00:19:21.000 i just don't know uh i don't think the police really care either um it just looks like no one
00:19:26.620 cares here's a church that has fallen into disuse and i think that that's somehow sort of a microcosm
00:19:31.660 for a larger society and it makes me sad um so that's that let me know what you think and
00:19:37.440 And I like covering these stories, not because I like the stories, but because I like ending
00:19:43.540 the cone of silence that the regime media has put on it.
00:19:46.900 I mean, you might recall, I went to that major cathedral in Toronto that was burnt down.
00:19:50.840 That was an enormous church, and that was found to be arson.
00:19:55.340 Up next, my interview with my friend from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:20:00.200 Maybe you know him.
00:20:00.920 Stay with us.
00:20:01.580 That's ahead.
00:20:02.060 well i don't have a lot of time for many liberal cabinet ministers but you know when i was in
00:20:10.940 davos switzerland at the world economic forum i bumped into francois philippe champagne who has
00:20:17.020 had various ministries under justin trudeau now mark carney and instead of running away or insulting
00:20:22.480 me like justin trudeau or christian freeland he actually talked to me now he didn't say a lot
00:20:27.180 substantively i asked him a bit and he gave very pat answers but i have to give him a little bit
00:20:32.940 of credit for not running away uh screaming the rebels the rebels and he actually came back and
00:20:38.480 he shook my hand a second time and i know these things should not alter my perception of the man's
00:20:43.600 substance we should treat him based on his policies and what he does but just on a personal note i
00:20:49.840 found him to be a better man than justin trudeau or many of the other liberals who simply run
00:20:56.620 shrieking when they see rebels. That said, Francois Philippe Champagne said something
00:21:01.920 quite curious the other day. I read about it in one of my favorite sources, Black Locks,
00:21:07.520 which is one of the rare media outlets in Canada that doesn't take government funding.
00:21:11.540 And it was a strange thing to hear. It was from Francois Philippe Champagne who said,
00:21:16.140 and I'm quoting here, we said we were going to spend less so we can spend more. That's like
00:21:23.340 some strange sort of haiku or something there's there's a double meaning there i think and then
00:21:27.860 he said we found 60 billion dollars of savings across different departments of the government
00:21:35.620 of canada i'm not i haven't gone deep to exactly what this means but um if you found 60 billion
00:21:43.480 dollars in savings brother why are we looking at a deficit even larger than that joining us now to
00:21:47.860 help figure out this very curious puzzle and to talk about other things is our friend franco
00:21:52.380 terzano the big boss of the canadian taxpayers federation franco um i don't get it if he found
00:21:58.900 60 billion dollars in savings why are we running a deficit even bigger than that well ezra i'm on
00:22:04.820 a diet it's going great i'm eating less burgers so i can eat more pizza that's exactly it that's
00:22:11.040 exactly what he said like come on right and and you know a couple things on this so champagne is
00:22:16.800 essentially just regurgitating what was in Carney's first budget that was presented late last
00:22:22.660 year okay so essentially the government wants people to think that they're cutting wasteful
00:22:27.380 spending and yet every single year spending is going up by billions of dollars so you know pro
00:22:33.160 tip to the prime minister pro tip to the finance minister uh when you're increasing spending by
00:22:38.440 billions of dollars every single year you're saving money wrong another thing all of the
00:22:44.280 savings that they're promising happen in future years, right? We've seen this before from the
00:22:48.980 Trudeau government many, many times. You know, when the government promises to start a diet on
00:22:54.340 Monday, Monday never comes. And Ezra, one last thing, okay? Here's what we do actually know.
00:23:00.420 The government tabled its main estimates a couple of weeks ago. That's the main spending plan for
00:23:05.240 the year ahead. Well, guess what? Spending is going up another $18 billion in the upcoming year.
00:23:11.980 yeah i knew i i shouldn't believe it was just such an astonishing thing for him to say you know um
00:23:19.020 that future cuts they also do that with future spending though i i saw a few days ago that mark
00:23:24.880 carney announced over 30 billion dollars in defense spending much of it focused on the arctic
00:23:29.280 but the liberals made that exact same announcement i think four years ago from the arctic so both for
00:23:36.400 they're going to cut later um but also they're going to spend on things they don't love they
00:23:41.220 don't love spending on defense they think it's too pro-american they think it's too militaristic
00:23:45.000 they have other it doesn't buy them the votes they need so they just re-announce they've re-announced
00:23:50.260 the spending they've re-announced the cuts i don't know it's very hard to take them at face value
00:23:54.940 can i talk about something else with you that i i think is a little bit of gaslighting on their part
00:23:59.880 and i use the word gas advisedly let me read the headline in well you know this because you wrote
00:24:04.920 this. This is from your website. The headline is Scrap Carbon Taxes and Cut Gas Taxes to Ease Pump
00:24:12.820 Prices. And that's on people's mind because, of course, the war in the Persian Gulf, that's where
00:24:17.320 a big chunk of the world's oil come from. And even though the oil we use here doesn't usually come
00:24:22.880 from there, when you reduce global supply, you're going to raise global prices because it's a
00:24:28.760 globally priced commodity so we're feeling the higher pump prices here now some people would say
00:24:35.520 hey mark carney already reduced the carbon tax to zero what carbon tax what gas pump taxes are
00:24:42.960 you talking about that goes to another level of government deception too doesn't tell me what you
00:24:47.580 mean oh it sure does look number one okay don't let these politicians off the hook right like they
00:24:53.720 have been gouging you at the pumps for years and years and years so uh yeah they can't stop a war
00:24:59.700 that's waging halfway around the world but they can stop taking so much money from you every time
00:25:04.180 you go to fuel up so ezra to get right into your question on these hidden carbon taxes look
00:25:09.880 carney didn't end all carbon taxes right to use his own word during the last election campaign
00:25:15.480 he wanted to change the carbon tax okay so carney has canceled the consumer facing carbon tax but
00:25:23.560 is increasing two other carbon taxes that are hidden, but inflict similar costs. The first one
00:25:30.360 is a Trudeau era carbon tax. It was buried in fuel regulations. It increases the cost of gas
00:25:36.320 by about seven cents per liter this year. The other one is a hidden carbon tax on Canadian
00:25:42.760 business, the industrial carbon tax. And let me tell you, it is the worst of all worlds. Okay.
00:25:47.980 it is hidden it makes life more expensive and it cuts canadian jobs so really the worst of all
00:25:54.840 worlds you know i think uh the gst was brought in perhaps you weren't even born yet franco you were
00:26:00.840 just a little baby back then uh but one of the arguments for the gst was that it was visible
00:26:08.580 and that you it wasn't sneaky and yeah people hated it and that was sort of part of the point
00:26:15.020 is that it wasn't tucked away so you couldn't see it and there was something i sort of respected
00:26:21.980 about that argument and i feel that a drop of resentment every time i see them in a restaurant
00:26:28.520 they break out the gst or the hst absolutely i feel that way um and that's exactly the opposite
00:26:34.880 of what mark carney did on on carbon taxes didn't he he removed like you say the public facing ones
00:26:40.940 but this is news to me that they're jacking up other ones and there's some cities does vancouver
00:26:46.500 still have a special gasoline tax like there's some special jurisdictions that really go the
00:26:51.440 extra mile in punishing their people don't they i think vancouver is one of them yeah that's correct
00:26:55.540 vancouver montreal and victoria also have their own little municipal gas taxes so folks look at
00:27:01.220 all the different ways you're getting soaked here okay you got a federal gas tax not the carbon tax
00:27:05.640 a federal gas tax then you have provincial gas tax then you have these hidden carbon taxes that
00:27:11.380 ottawa is still imposing then you have some municipal taxes on gas right vancouver montreal
00:27:17.040 and victoria uh and then you have even federal and some provinces imposing their sales taxes
00:27:24.180 on top of all these other taxes it's really a tax on tax yeah right so uh think about this all the
00:27:31.140 ways so you look at vancouver and montreal some of these big taxing jurisdictions okay you're
00:27:36.360 looking at like 65 cents per liter of gas in taxes alone yeah you know and it really is the price of
00:27:44.220 it's built into the price of everything you cannot get around canada without gasoline especially in
00:27:49.000 the winter time i mean um it just adds to everything it's it's it really and it's regressive
00:27:55.700 too it's like a tax on bread if you're a rich person a tax on bread is no skin off your nose
00:28:02.000 but if you're poor it's a really large part like you just can't get around the basics of
00:28:06.680 transportation and heating it i think it's a really regressive tax um is there any chance
00:28:14.700 that these will be reduced i mean just any chance at all i i think it was a stroke of political
00:28:19.980 genius by mark carney to to nix the carbon tax really as soon as he declared his candidacy for
00:28:26.360 the liberal leadership because it took away uh the number one argument against the liberals number
00:28:32.340 one policy argument i guess for this to continue taxes would have to become such a political
00:28:38.320 penalty such a a burden politically and i just don't think they're there yet on at least on gas
00:28:44.300 taxes right yeah but if you told me a couple years ago that it was going to be a liberal that
00:28:49.560 canceled a liberal's favorite tax ezra i might have thought you were crazy right so that's the
00:28:54.060 whole thing keep up the pressure i want to go back to that regressive issue that you mentioned ezra
00:28:58.740 because it's not just you who admits it the government admits it as well in its own reports
00:29:04.320 on the hidden carbon tax through fuel regulations right specifically saying that it's going to hurt
00:29:09.100 people who are already struggling through energy poverty specifically pointing to single mothers
00:29:14.440 seniors living on fixed income so you don't trust me well look at the government reports i don't
00:29:20.140 know why you would trust the government more than me but hey who knows the next thing i want to talk
00:29:24.340 about is this industrial carbon tax uh ezra and here's why okay because for the better part of a
00:29:29.500 decade the government tried to convince canadians that the carbon tax made them richer okay canadians
00:29:35.880 didn't believe it then they don't believe it now we have polling shows that the vast majority of
00:29:42.060 Canadians understand the simple reality. When you carbon tax refineries, you make it more expensive
00:29:47.060 to drive. When you carbon tax fertilizer plants, you make it more expensive to eat. And when you
00:29:51.900 carbon tax electricity, well, you make it more expensive to live. Yeah. You know, one of the
00:29:57.860 ways that people make a little extra money on the side are little gigs like driving Uber or DoorDash
00:30:03.280 or some of these little things where you can run around town. I mean, a gas tax goes straight at
00:30:10.040 those people trying to make a go of it and i say again you're a millionaire you drive to work you're
00:30:14.860 a poor person you drive to work you're using approximately the same amount of gas i would
00:30:19.260 imagine but that's obviously a much bigger percentage burden for the for the lower income
00:30:23.440 person i really hate these taxes that are regressive it reminds me of when and i'm just
00:30:29.700 changing subjects here but it reminds me of when there was this price fixing amongst the grocery
00:30:34.360 stores to raise the cost of bread which i thought was really targeting poor people i feel like
00:30:39.820 raising the cost of bread and raising the cost of gas have the same morality level, which is
00:30:45.440 negative. I'm glad you guys are out there fighting like hell, Franco. Thanks for joining us today.
00:30:50.240 Hey, thank you, Ezra. There he is, Franco Teresano of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Stay with us
00:30:55.140 more ahead. Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me about the Al-Quds Day protest.
00:31:09.820 uh got the single life says forget canada most western countries are blind to this
00:31:15.060 and many get into various government positions and then the push for the radical agendas from
00:31:18.700 within this is the modern trojan horse with the traders opening the gates thinking it would
00:31:23.440 save them by voting them back in only to find the rapid decline in the society i i think that's
00:31:28.880 exactly right opening the gates from within i think that um that's really how it ends is someone
00:31:34.380 on the inside says, oh, just let them in. And we see that, the entryism in school boards,
00:31:40.660 for example, how now, I mean, not just for Islamism, for all sorts of woke ideas, and
00:31:47.280 they were let in. Joseph Lawson says on Mark Carney's flip-flops, so Canada sent billions
00:31:55.040 of dollars to Ukraine in order to help that country prosecute its war with Russia, yet
00:31:58.920 Canada's own warships apparently are not outfitted to modern levels. What is going on?
00:32:03.000 yeah it's just incredible i mean imagine sending our ships and our ships cannot defend themselves
00:32:09.060 let alone be of use to others i mean what is the point of having the ships if they are of no use
00:32:14.960 what is the point i maybe all they're good for is taking on those little somali pirates or something
00:32:21.360 which is i think a mission they had in the past but even now i doubt that because the somali pirates
00:32:25.960 well there's a lot of pirates around there including the houthis who have modern technology
00:32:29.580 that could probably sink god forbid one of our ships on cbc haley's mom says is if cbc is the
00:32:38.180 voice of canada why do they turn off their comments so canadians can't have a voice well
00:32:42.580 that's such a great point um on twitter as you know or access is now called uh you can reply
00:32:48.380 you can debate you can give feedback to uh to whoever posts something but that can be turned
00:32:53.760 off by the main user and so often the cbc does that it's really a tell that they know their
00:32:59.260 own people hate them and vice versa well that's our show for the day i hope you enjoyed my short
00:33:04.620 visit to fredereton i always love going on to atlantic ken i was out there a couple months
00:33:09.280 ago in nova scotia it really is a beautiful part of the country just in terms of its raw geographic
00:33:15.180 beauty but also the people are so friendly i i mean listen there's friendly people everywhere
00:33:19.440 in this country i like to think that where i'm from calgary is a pretty friendly city but i think
00:33:24.480 there's something really collegial and community-like about the Atlantic. And whenever I go
00:33:29.420 there, I feel a nostalgia for it, even though I'm not from there. I guess it makes me think of what
00:33:33.740 the whole of Canada was like 30 or 40 years ago. There's that community feeling, that high trust
00:33:39.400 feeling. And I really love my short visit there. That's our show for the day. Until next time,
00:33:45.020 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and
00:33:49.300 keep fighting for freedom.
00:33:54.480 We'll be right back.