Rebel News Podcast - April 10, 2025


EZRA LEVANT | Another Carney candidate, another China link — does anyone care, though?


Episode Stats

Length

43 minutes

Words per Minute

160.56918

Word Count

6,936

Sentence Count

512

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Mark Carney chooses another Chinese spy as his new candidate to replace the last Chinese spy. We have video proof of some very strange things about this man, including his business connections with China and his financial dealings with the Chinese government.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today's show, very interesting, if I may say so myself. It's about Mark Carney
00:00:04.620 and his conflicts of interest with business and with China. We're going to show some videos,
00:00:10.280 including the new Carney candidate, who's a former Toronto police officer who was,
00:00:16.400 I'm going to call him a Chinese spy. We'll have video proof of some very strange things.
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00:00:51.100 Tonight, Mark Carney chooses another Chinese spy as a candidate
00:00:55.480 to replace the last Chinese spy. Does anyone care, though? It's April 10th,
00:01:00.420 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:04.920 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:16.520 Well, hi, everybody. I was at a Brampton rally yesterday featuring Pierre Polyev and his Brampton
00:01:22.480 area candidates. It's very interesting. I'm glad I went there, but I'll be honest with you,
00:01:26.220 I was a little bit worried. I went more than two hours early because I had seen
00:01:31.420 Sheila Gunn-Reid's report from Edmonton a couple of days ago, where more than 10,000 people came.
00:01:37.860 Lineup started three hours in advance. It was kilometers long.
00:01:41.140 So I set out for Brampton, which isn't that long a drive from Toronto. I got there super early. And
00:01:48.420 you know what? The parking lot was almost, you know, I won't say empty, but I got a great parking
00:01:53.140 spot. There was maybe 100 people in line. And when the event began, they actually closed some of the
00:01:59.940 sections in the big ballroom to make the room seem smaller because it was not full. And I'll be honest
00:02:05.520 with you. I was a little bit worried. Brampton is its own city, but it's half an hour away from
00:02:10.840 Toronto. It's really in the dense greater Toronto area of which there are, what, 7 million residents
00:02:17.020 these days. I won't lie. I'm a little bit worried about the turnout. And I see the new David Coletto
00:02:22.160 poll showing that the Conservatives have lost three points and the Liberals have gained three points.
00:02:27.780 So instead of it being tied at 39-39, it's now Liberals at 42, Conservatives at 36. And there's
00:02:37.040 still time to turn it around, but only 18 days left. A big factor is Jagmeet Singh absolutely
00:02:43.480 collapsing. Here's his latest foolish TikTok video. I think that he's going to lose his own seat. The
00:02:50.560 party may lose most of their seats and he'll just become a TikTok influencer. Here's his video today.
00:02:55.780 We're all going to jump together. Get ready, everybody. We're going to show them that we're
00:02:59.980 ready. We're ready to fight. We're ready to win. Here we go. Get ready. Get ready. Get warmed
00:03:05.940 up. Get warmed up. Here we go. Here we go. Let's go. Ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?
00:03:14.760 Here we go. Here we go. One, two, three. Yes. Yes. Thank you so much. The floor is actually shaking.
00:03:36.860 Yeah. An unserious man in serious times. I think one of the ways that the Conservatives could boost
00:03:43.980 their fortunes is to focus on Mark Carney, the person. I think Carney has effectively neutralized
00:03:51.420 the carbon tax issue. And I don't know if Pierre Polyev will be able to win on the who can handle
00:03:58.620 Trump issue. I just don't know if he can credibly take ownership of that issue. But I think Mark Carney
00:04:04.160 himself can be much more of an issue as opposed to issue issues. Who is Mark Carney? Could you
00:04:11.660 honestly answer that question? He hasn't answered that question. Where did he pay his personal taxes?
00:04:16.560 Where does he declare his residence as being? Does he have a Canadian health care card or does he still
00:04:22.080 use the British NHS? I say again, he told the U.S. Congress just last year that he's a resident of the
00:04:28.360 UK. How long has he even been here? Some of his answers suggest he hasn't even really been
00:04:32.300 following politics in Canada until just a few weeks ago. One of the things that's most interesting to
00:04:38.520 me is his Chinese connections. He's deeply conflicted. He's a businessman who has met with
00:04:45.540 Xi Jinping and has praised China publicly. That's a political statement more than a business statement.
00:04:53.680 And what's so weird is he will not disclose his financial holdings and he will not sell his
00:05:00.400 financial holdings. I don't need to know how Mark Carney made his money to date if he sells all
00:05:06.900 his stuff. But why won't he sell it? Isn't that weird? Is it some sort of insurance policy if he
00:05:12.760 doesn't win? Is he just holding on to his assets to try and get richer? Like isn't becoming prime
00:05:19.800 minister the top job for him? Or is he always looking for a better chance? Like when he left
00:05:25.260 Canada's bank of National Bank to go to run the Bank of England? Like is he still looking around
00:05:31.920 for a better deal? Why would you still hold on to your stocks and your other holdings once you're PM?
00:05:37.260 Don't you see that would horrendously conflict everything you're doing, including this? Here's
00:05:41.360 an example. A couple days ago, Mark Carney announced that the Canadian government was going to get into the
00:05:48.000 housing businesses and to actually build houses. That's an astonishingly bad idea. You know, it's
00:05:54.040 just $25 billion. Sure, $25 billion. Throw another $25 billion on the fire. But it doesn't take long to
00:06:00.740 Google and see that the company, which he ran until a few weeks ago, Brookfield, which is like a mini
00:06:07.520 BlackRock if you're trying to think about it. It's got about $900 billion in assets under management.
00:06:13.200 They invested $5 billion into a modular homes company. Here's their press release from three
00:06:22.000 and a half years ago. They today announced an agreement to acquire Modulair Group for approximately
00:06:28.040 $5 billion. What's the Modulair Group? Well, their website shows they build little modular homes,
00:06:34.300 tiny homes, like I saw in Lahaina, Maui, like prefab tiny homes. That is Mark Carney's plan for housing in
00:06:42.620 Canada. I don't know if it'll look like the FEMA camps that we saw in Lahaina or if it'll look like
00:06:48.480 the dilapidated government housing on Indian reserves. But I am aware of no place in the world where
00:06:54.580 government housing is of quality or of affordability. Like what are we doing allowing government-run
00:07:04.400 housing? That's an insane socialist idea. But at his core, that's what Mark Carney is. Anyhow, I say that
00:07:11.980 to you because it's relevant to our interview in a few minutes with Sam Cooper, the investigative
00:07:17.560 reporter who digs into Chinese connections. And that's actually the feature of today's show. I
00:07:22.960 talked to Sam for about half an hour, and I hope you enjoy it. By the way, a little programming note.
00:07:27.860 I will be doing the show tomorrow from the United Kingdom. I'm hopping on a plane tonight, flying
00:07:34.040 overnight, and I'm landing in London to cover Tommy Robinson's appeal of his sentence for contempt of
00:07:39.900 court. As you know, he's in prison for 18 months. He'll serve nine of those months, and he's serving
00:07:44.660 in solitary confinement. We already had a judicial review over the way he's being held. Unfortunately,
00:07:49.880 he lost that. Tomorrow is an appeal of the sentence itself. There's going to be one or two other things
00:07:56.880 we do continue to cover outside of Canada, even during the Canadian election. Obviously, being on the
00:08:03.060 ground in Canada is by far our most important priority. But there are still some things like Tommy
00:08:07.820 Robinson that I know are important to our viewers, and there may be one or two other things.
00:08:12.640 But as you can see every day, our people are on the ground. My friend David Menzies, right as we speak,
00:08:18.560 is at a Carney event in Hamilton. And I think our billboard truck is there too. So that'll be fun
00:08:24.040 to see how that goes. The For Canada third-party campaign group is going absolutely full tilt.
00:08:30.580 I'll have a report for you next week on how many millions of views those ads have had online,
00:08:36.260 in person, and on the radio. So that's my report for today. Stay with us. I had a deep interview
00:08:44.960 with Sam Cooper on Chinese influence in Canada. Take a look.
00:08:48.740 Well, I criticize the mainstream media in Canada for turning a blind eye or even covering up actively
00:09:06.240 Chinese Communist Party interference in our democracy. I note their total lack of curiosity,
00:09:12.480 for example, in possible Chinese involvement in the online vote that selected Mark Carney to be prime
00:09:21.080 minister. An astonishing thing I mentioned twice in the last few days was the almost uniform or
00:09:28.840 unanimous phraseology by the regime media when it was revealed that the Chinese Communist Party was
00:09:37.040 using the Chinese social media app WeChat to push Mark Carney is that all the media said,
00:09:44.180 no, no, no, China was targeting Mark Carney, implying that they were against him, when in fact the exact
00:09:50.880 opposite was true. The fact that so many media outlets use that same word targeting was so astonishing
00:09:58.300 to me. But I have to give credit where it's due. There are some journalists out there who do an
00:10:03.240 excellent job and even sometimes I would say a lonely job revealing this foreign interference in
00:10:09.120 our country. I often make fun of the Globe and Mail because they are the granddaddy of regime media.
00:10:16.680 They're owned by Canada's richest oligarch, David Thompson. I mean, the fact that they even take
00:10:21.260 government subsidies boggles my mind. But all that feels forgiven when I see stories like theirs today.
00:10:27.380 liberal candidate Peter Yuan chosen to replace Paul Chiang linked to pro-Beijing groups and events.
00:10:36.340 And it's a very in-depth report on the man who succeeded Paul Chiang. You'll remember Paul Chiang.
00:10:43.020 He made these comments to the Chinese media about having someone literally kidnap a conservative pro-democracy
00:10:51.640 Chinese-Canadian and take them to the Chinese consulate for a million-dollar bounty. Remember this clip?
00:10:58.600 The other person that's running most probably is, you know, the Chinese community, Joe Tei.
00:11:04.780 He is looking for the nomination. The Chinese media knows him.
00:11:12.400 He was in the media business in Hong Kong. And here in Canada, he's a radio host or, I don't know,
00:11:21.000 for Sinktown media or, so their child, he was a media person. So that's all he did, all he's like.
00:11:27.500 But also right now, he is wanted by the Chinese government. And there's a one-million-dollar reward
00:11:33.140 on his head. So they want, if you guys want to pick him up and take him to the Chinese consulate,
00:11:39.420 you make him a million dollars. I'm just joking. But there is a rest warrant out for him from the
00:11:45.300 government of China. And there is a reward for him. But apart from that, I can't say more than that.
00:11:50.540 Well, after white knighting for Paul Chiang for almost a week, Chiang quit. Mark Carney said almost
00:11:58.440 nothing. And handpicked the replacement, Peter Yuan, who is deeply involved in pro-China activity
00:12:06.760 in Canada. He's a former policeman like Paul Chiang was. But here he is wearing a Canadian police uniform,
00:12:17.180 singing a Communist Party song in Chinese in his full police regalia. Take a look at this.
00:12:28.440 Who are all those cops? Like that's not just one or two. That's at least half a dozen police wearing
00:12:44.860 Toronto or other Canadian police uniforms while singing a patriotic song to the Communist Party
00:12:53.180 of China. You know, if you remember a year or two ago, we sent David Menzies out to try and get the
00:12:59.000 facts about these Chinese police stations in Canada. You know, there's a few of these police stations
00:13:05.300 that are not affiliated with the Canadian government. They are the Chinese government's way of policing
00:13:10.940 and spying on and regulating the diaspora community here. Why bother having a ghost police station
00:13:21.300 that operates for China when you literally have people of a very senior rank? I would remind you
00:13:28.040 that Peter Yuan was very high. I think he was the deputy chief of police in Toronto. And he's not doing
00:13:35.420 this secretly. He's not hiding any of this. He's leaning into it. Unbelievable. Well, I mentioned
00:13:41.000 the reporters at the Globe and Mail, in particular Steve Chase and Robert Fyfe, who would be an excellent
00:13:45.440 on this. But I think if I had to name the one Canadian journalist who has made a mark on this
00:13:54.040 campaign and over the last few years in documenting and investigating the Chinese Communist Party's
00:14:00.480 interference in our democracy, it would be our guest today. You probably can guess who I'm talking about.
00:14:05.900 His name is Sam Cooper. He runs thebureau.news. And boy, are we ever grateful for his work and for him
00:14:12.820 taking the time occasionally to pop by. Welcome back, Sam. It's great to see you again.
00:14:18.080 Good to be with you, Ezra. You know, Sam, that video, we only showed about 10 seconds of it.
00:14:24.240 That was an in Chinese language, Chinese political event. You know, I don't think police are allowed
00:14:31.500 to be political in Canada. I know they're not. You couldn't, you wouldn't see police in uniform
00:14:37.920 at a Liberal Party function, a Conservative Party function, because the police uniform must remain
00:14:43.920 nonpartisan. So everyone trusts it. It's astonishing to me to see half a dozen Toronto cops in a partisan
00:14:52.600 political action for a political party. It just happens to be the Chinese Communist Party. I find that
00:14:58.840 astonishing.
00:14:59.300 It's an astonishing scene, Ezra. And I broke that story followed up well today by the Globe and
00:15:06.380 Mail. I broke it on Sunday. And I broke it because I have good contacts with Chinese language journalists
00:15:15.620 in Canada who have such deep knowledge of Beijing's repressive interference networks. And so, Ezra,
00:15:23.560 as you know, I reported on leaked intelligence documents, but my reporting was started by
00:15:30.340 looking at broad daylight evidence such as that video. And look, if you talk about the CCP police
00:15:37.200 stations, Ezra, I noted that Mr. Yuan was standing beside a Markham community leader who the RCMP has
00:15:46.520 investigated in Chinese police stations in Toronto and Vancouver. That's a fact. That meeting there,
00:15:54.560 many of the politicians alleged to be involved in the Greater Toronto-Beijing United Front election
00:16:01.700 interference networks were at that very same event. Ezra, the Consul General of Toronto, spoke to
00:16:08.720 everyone, including the police officers and the politicians at that event. I can go on and on,
00:16:14.300 but suffice to say, anyone with intellectual curiosity can look at academic documents and
00:16:20.820 videotaped events like this and say it raises deep concerns that this is Beijing's United Front
00:16:26.560 interfacing with Canadian police and politicians. And Ezra, I do want to stress good work by the Globe and
00:16:34.140 Mail in digging into some of the open source findings that many Canadian researchers posted to my story
00:16:41.520 after I broke it on Sunday. Anyone can find this stuff. They can also find pictures. I call them
00:16:49.360 concerning pictures of Mr. Yuan and other Canadian police officers sitting down with known RCMP
00:16:56.580 investigation suspects in the realm of organized crime. Deeply concerning.
00:17:02.140 Wow. Well, first of all, Sam, I didn't realize that you broke this story before the Globe.
00:17:07.160 I do still give them a tip of the hat for following it, but I didn't mean to take away
00:17:14.300 the gravity of your scoop, and I'm glad you corrected me on that. I am a subscriber to,
00:17:20.820 you know, in fact, literally right now, your latest email popped up on my phone, so I'm sorry I didn't
00:17:25.560 give you proper credit for that. I will say that Bob Fife and Steve Chase are interested in this file,
00:17:33.840 and I find that very heartening because they're very rare. So I won't give them the kudos for
00:17:39.020 breaking the story, but I do think it's worth acknowledging that they followed your lead because
00:17:44.800 I wish more reporters would. Here's what's so interesting about this for me, Sam. Paul Chang was
00:17:50.920 a shocking case. He tried to pass it off as a joke, but when you say three times, hey, turn in my opponent
00:17:59.820 for a million dollars at the consulate, and when you're a former police officer and when that kind
00:18:04.860 of stuff actually happens, it is not a laughing matter. And Mark Carney couldn't bring himself to
00:18:09.760 fire this guy for over a week, for almost a week. So they had this crisis. They lost a candidate over
00:18:16.560 it. So they went back to square one with this crisis in mind, and they chose this guy? I understand
00:18:23.820 choosing a Chinese-Canadian. That's the demographics of the riding. I get it. But to choose someone who's
00:18:29.380 deeply, deeply connected with the Chinese Communist Party after they just had a scandal, that's what's
00:18:36.340 so crazy to me. I mean, once might be carelessness, but twice? And I've got to ask questions about the
00:18:44.220 Toronto Police Service itself now. I mean, that first guy, Paul Chang, was a cop for 25 years. Did he treat
00:18:50.620 people on the ground differently if they were a Chinese democracy activist versus a Chinese CCP
00:18:57.720 activist? Because I would be afraid to be a Chinese-Canadian who is either neutral or pro-democracy
00:19:04.780 if a pro-CCP cop pulls me over? And you're saying he's hanging out with people who were working
00:19:10.420 on these ghost police stations? I mean, I don't have evidence that this guy was a spy,
00:19:17.280 but it doesn't seem like he's hiding his affiliations at all. I think this is nuts, Sam. How could they
00:19:26.620 have... The fact that they chose basically an identical guy to the guy they sacked is astonishing.
00:19:35.340 Ezra, I've got two points. First of all, your observation, as usual, is very prescient.
00:19:40.380 Look, for this individual to be constantly meeting with consul officials and community leaders that I'm
00:19:50.140 asserting to you, provably in court, community leaders that the RCMP is investigating in Chinese
00:19:56.780 police station networks, it points to a concern I'm already aware of in other cities such as Vancouver,
00:20:02.840 that very elite Chinese former police or military officials with direct connections, unfortunately,
00:20:12.500 to Chinese organized crime, make donations to police foundations in Canada. And it appears to me that
00:20:19.760 they attempt to advertise their linkages to Canadian police services in sending, I believe,
00:20:27.600 a message to the Chinese community that they have some influence within Chinese police. So that is one thing.
00:20:34.440 I'm saying you're right. But let's wind it back. In my story broken Sunday, on Mr. Yuan, there's an even more,
00:20:41.600 I would say, mind-blowing connection. Mr. Yuan joined the board of a Markham-based Chinese
00:20:49.180 international school called NOIC. He joined it within the past few years. And Ezra, this is the very same
00:20:57.300 school that came up in Hogue Commission testimony in which Chinese visa-holding students were allegedly
00:21:05.460 bussed into a riding to support a certain candidate under threat, allegedly from the consul general.
00:21:12.480 Oh, my God.
00:21:13.300 So let's look at that in the picture of this individual standing at a gala beside a community leader
00:21:20.780 where they were, you know, received the oratory of the consul general, the very same consul general unit
00:21:28.940 that's alleged to be involved in threats to students. Look at that triangulation, Ezra. I could go on and on.
00:21:35.300 It's mind-blowing.
00:21:36.000 It's very interesting because if that were in another political setting, I think it would be stopped.
00:21:42.500 I think there would be discipline. But the fact that the political party happens to be foreign,
00:21:47.940 that's just incredible. I think, again, my biggest concern with what Paul Chang, the candidate who was
00:21:54.420 fired a week ago, is that it's not so much that people would actually kidnap the pro-democracy
00:22:02.180 activists and turn them in. I mean, that was always a possibility. It was the message that was being sent.
00:22:07.860 If you pop your head up and say anti-communist things, if you pop your head up and say freedom
00:22:13.620 or democracy things, we're watching you, you know, be afraid, you know, as they say in French,
00:22:20.020 pour encourager les autres. To set an example, don't you talk democracy talk or we'll make public threats.
00:22:28.580 To me, it was less the risk that the kidnapping would happen and more the fact that a man of authority
00:22:34.580 who was a cop for 25 years, who's in the bosom of the Liberal Party of Canada is saying,
00:22:40.740 if any of you have big ideas about talking about democracy, just to let you know, that's off.
00:22:46.820 Hey, I want to show you something literally in my ear as we were talking, Sam.
00:22:51.780 Our producer, Efron, says that Mark Carney just made a response to the latest investigation that
00:22:59.380 you published on Sunday and that the Globe and Mail followed up with. So here, let's take a look at
00:23:04.260 Mark Carney's response. I have not seen this yet. Let's watch it together and then I'd love your
00:23:08.500 reaction. Mark Carney on your scoop. Let's take a look. My colleagues have a story today about a
00:23:16.420 Liberal candidate's relations with China-friendly groups and a meeting that you also held with a
00:23:21.620 pro-Beijing group. So my question is, why did you meet with this pro-Beijing group, Jiangsu
00:23:26.580 Commerce Council of Canada? And is the party okay with the fact that Liberal candidate Peter Yan
00:23:31.780 has been so close with the Chinese consulate and China-friendly groups, given the public
00:23:36.260 inquiry into foreign interference, says that this is a tactic China uses to exert influence?
00:23:41.140 Okay. Well, I'm sorry, but you can't believe everything you read in the Globe and Mail.
00:23:45.460 So in your question, and I guess in the article in question, you said I had a meeting with
00:23:51.940 whatever your term was, Beijing group. I've never heard of this group, okay? Never
00:23:56.340 heard of this group, certainly didn't have a set up meeting with this group. Full stop. So check
00:24:01.620 your sources before you write things like that, okay? Or your colleagues do. I'm a politician.
00:24:08.500 I go to events where there are hundreds and thousands, you know, thousands over the course
00:24:14.260 of a day of different people there. That is not a meeting. If somebody happens to be in the room,
00:24:18.820 takes a picture with me, that's not a meeting, okay? First point. Secondly, with respect to Mr.
00:24:24.340 Young, this is a person who has served his community for decades. The person who's deputy
00:24:30.980 commissioner of the police, okay? A person in discharge of those responsibilities
00:24:37.460 meets with a variety of community groups in the community because that's his job.
00:24:42.980 That's his responsibility. We're proud to have him as a candidate. And I honor his service,
00:24:49.940 including on today. Wow. There's a lot in there. Sam, you take a first crack at it,
00:24:54.740 because there's something I want to point out that might be a little different than your ankle.
00:24:57.540 You go ahead. What do you think of that? Sure. Sure. I'm happy to, Ezra. As no journalist in
00:25:02.260 Canada knows more about the entity, Jiangsu Commerce. Many of my, I call them open source research
00:25:09.620 colleagues, have posted pictures over the past years building upon my reports for global news.
00:25:16.500 That entity in Markham is an entity of business leaders in the Markham community. And so it has,
00:25:25.540 for legal reasons, I'll just say a couple, a number of individuals investigated by CSIS at the highest
00:25:32.900 levels in their Toronto election interference story. The group includes an individual that travels to
00:25:40.100 China and meets with the United Front Work Department at a high level.
00:25:43.460 So my comment to Mr. Carney, in his incuriousness or ignorance or deflection, he could have been
00:25:50.980 meeting with individuals already that he knew were investigated by CSIS. They might not have had Jiangsu
00:25:57.860 Commerce Group on their name tag. But if a number of them were in the room with him, and they say they were
00:26:04.980 meeting with him under that hat, he as a Canadian leader should be aware of that. I would add this,
00:26:11.860 this. My work has shown that that particular entity is deeply tied with liberal election,
00:26:21.060 local election riding associations in the Markham area. I could go on and on, but the people involved
00:26:28.260 there are Chinese community leaders who have a very high level of influence, I'm asserting,
00:26:34.900 in staff placement in the Liberal government. And I'm really getting a chance to unpack the knowledge
00:26:41.700 I've built for the past, you know, 10 years, I'd say three years in Toronto. But I do think that in
00:26:50.100 Mr. Carney's dismissive remarks to the Globe and Mail reporter, it shows a level of arrogance and
00:26:59.380 in curiousness that is not becoming of a Canadian leader. And Ezra, if I had two hours to speak to
00:27:06.340 you today, I could point to any number, a lot of Liberal candidates in Vancouver and Toronto that have
00:27:13.140 so many levels of meetings with these individuals in Chinese community associations that the RCMP and CSIS
00:27:21.620 repeatedly have told Mr. Carney's predecessor, Justin Trudeau and his party are there to surround
00:27:29.540 and influence Canadian politicians. So if Mr. Carney doesn't know this, I think he does know this.
00:27:35.060 Yeah, I think he does know this. Boy, is that interesting. You know, last night, by the way, Sam,
00:27:40.100 I went to a conservative political rally in Brampton. And obviously, the demographics of Brampton
00:27:46.340 are majority minority. So I spoke with a number of people from different backgrounds.
00:27:50.900 And one of the conversations I had that was the most surprising, and frankly, it really changed
00:27:56.740 some of my thinking, was I talked to someone who said he's an anti-Hamas Muslim. He's a proud Muslim,
00:28:05.780 and he doesn't want people to think that conservatives are anti-Muslim. But he says,
00:28:09.380 that doesn't mean you have to be pro-Hamas. And he said he's been kicked out of a number of
00:28:13.220 community Facebook groups when he criticized Hamas. And I just listened to this guy and he's standing
00:28:17.700 right in front of me. And I felt his pain and his loneliness, Sam, because he wants to be a Canadian
00:28:26.340 who's Muslim and has, you know, he's an immigrant here. He wants to be Canadian. He doesn't want the
00:28:32.020 long arm of Iran or other foreign countries or, God forbid, terrorist groups manipulating the
00:28:37.860 community. And I was very touched by what he said to me. And I can imagine it's even stronger in the
00:28:43.860 Chinese community. You have people who've came here. I mean, the difference in personal freedom
00:28:48.740 and choices and political freedom is so different. And yet the Chinese Communist Party has managed to
00:28:56.660 follow them here. And when they see someone like Paul Yuan, they think, oh my God, China's followed
00:29:04.260 me here. But then when they see Mark Carney, someone like you say, who should know better, basically say,
00:29:10.180 there's nothing wrong here. And he used the same line he used with Paul Chang. If you remember,
00:29:14.340 he said, Paul Chang has 25 years of policing. I respect that. Well, first of all, I want to know
00:29:19.300 a lot more about that police. I mean, you can't just say he served his community. He was good enough for
00:29:23.300 the Toronto police. He's good enough for me. I don't know. He, sorry, go ahead, Sam. Looks like you want
00:29:29.620 to make a point. Then I'll make my, there's one more thing in my mind that really a light bulb went on
00:29:34.340 when Mark Carney answered, but go ahead. I can see you have something to say.
00:29:36.740 A light bulb went on for me too, because you're right. For a second time,
00:29:41.380 Mr. Carney refers to the police background of his candidate. And Ezra, I'm sorry,
00:29:47.620 if a Canadian police officer were sitting down with a hell's angel repeatedly,
00:29:52.340 people would have a problem with it. But what has happened in Canada is because of some sort of
00:29:58.260 parallel society where the Chinese Communist Party is able to secure deep influence,
00:30:03.460 unfortunately, in our institutions and fear over our communities, people like Mr. Yuen and Mr.
00:30:10.740 Chang, whether through their duty or not, whether because they're in positions of diversity and
00:30:16.660 inclusion and community outreach, it just happens that they end up sitting down, as my photo evidence
00:30:24.340 will show with individuals in groups called the Hanmen Society. This is a society that I won't
00:30:30.980 ramble on. The U.S. government has sanctioned a high-level individual at the highest levels of
00:30:36.420 organized crime. And I believe that high-level Canadian police officers, whether Chinese, Canadian,
00:30:42.900 or any other ethnic group, know that very unfortunately community leaders of the Hanmen and other
00:30:50.900 groups are involved in organized crime. So Mr. Yuen, I'm happy to hear from him if he has any concerns
00:30:57.620 of sitting down with those individuals and if he would look at people from other backgrounds in Canada
00:31:04.500 in policing roles, meeting with people in organized crime and ask them any questions.
00:31:10.100 Yeah. You know, by the way, if someone comes from an authoritarian regime like China,
00:31:14.740 joining the police has a different meaning than we have here. Here in Canada, Dad, I want to grow up
00:31:21.700 and be a policeman and stop bank robbers. You know, there's a difference. What does a policeman mean
00:31:27.140 in Canada versus what does a policeman mean in communist China? In communist China, you're serving
00:31:32.580 the authoritarian government. You're sort of at odds with the people. In Canada, at least it used to be,
00:31:39.380 you grow up and you say, the police is on my side. Call the police if you're in trouble. In many
00:31:44.820 authoritarian regimes, the police are a source of terror. So for Mark Carney to say, oh, he's been
00:31:50.180 a cop for 25 years, that says it all. But hey, let me tell you the one thing that immediately clicked
00:31:54.660 on. It was the very first thing Mark Carney said. In fact, Efron, can you play the first 10 seconds
00:32:02.660 of his answer? I want you to show his first, very first reaction before he talks about the substance,
00:32:10.180 before he tries to defend polio. And what was the first thing Mark Carney says? Let's play the clip,
00:32:15.540 just for a few seconds. Well, I'm sorry, but you can't believe everything you read in the Globe and
00:32:19.940 Mail. So in your question, and I guess in the article in question, you said I had a meeting with
00:32:25.700 whatever your term was, Beijing Group. I've never heard of this group, okay? Never heard of this
00:32:32.260 group. Certainly didn't have a set up meeting with this group. Full stop. So check your sources before
00:32:37.940 you write things like that, okay? Or your colleagues do. Sam, when Mark Carney said you can't believe
00:32:44.980 everything you read in the Globe and Mail, that made me think back a few years to a bombshell by these same
00:32:52.260 two reporters, Bob Fyfe and Stephen Chase. And again, I acknowledge that you broke this big scoop
00:32:57.860 on Peter Yuan. But a few years ago, do you remember when this same Liberal crew, Gerald Butts, that sort of
00:33:08.900 team, faced a front page story by the Globe and Mail saying that Jody Wilson-Raybould had been pressured
00:33:16.340 by Gerald Butts to let SNC-Lavalin off the hook for prosecution for corruption. And Chase and Fyfe did
00:33:24.580 this huge report, meticulously documented. But they really didn't have a lot of people going on the
00:33:30.500 record, especially Jody Wilson-Raybould herself. Here's a clip of Justin Trudeau's reaction to that
00:33:36.980 blockbuster story that turned out to be 100% true. But Trudeau just brazened it out. He just
00:33:46.820 said, I'm not going to blink first. Here's a flashback to Trudeau. Same newspaper, same
00:33:54.660 scoop kind of bombshell, same response. Take a look at Trudeau.
00:33:59.300 Did you or anyone in your office pressure the former attorney general to abandon the prosecution
00:34:04.180 of SNC-Lavalin? The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false. Neither the current nor the
00:34:13.460 previous attorney general was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office to take a decision in this
00:34:22.260 matter. I don't think, Sam, that that's a coincidence. Because remember, Gerald Butts is,
00:34:28.100 that's where Mark Carney's spouse works. And Butts is now touring with Mark Carney. It's quite
00:34:33.380 something. Gerald Butts, you know, that that guy's got nine lives. And and it would not surprise me
00:34:39.380 one bit that that phrase, don't trust everything you read. You know, the story in the Globe and Mail
00:34:45.380 is false. I don't think it's a coincidence that that phrase was used. But here's what I predict, Sam.
00:34:50.820 And again, we know that you are dogged and determined. But the Globe and Mail is so big.
00:34:59.220 I would say it's the newspaper record for Canada, even though I have an affection for the National
00:35:03.060 Post. We have to admit the establishment newspaper is the Globe and Mail. It is the big old paper.
00:35:08.900 And when you say don't believe everything you read in the Globe and Mail, I think that's going to prick
00:35:13.140 Steve Chase and Bob Fyfe and the editor over there, David Wamsley. And I think Mark Carney made a mistake.
00:35:19.780 Because I know you would never give up on this. But I think this is now going to turn into a bit of a
00:35:24.180 showdown between the Globe and Mail and the Liberal Party. I think, like you say, so much of this
00:35:28.820 information is open source. These guys weren't hiding it. You didn't have a secret, you know,
00:35:34.420 inside source. You just looked at what's all out there, what the rest of the media is ignored.
00:35:38.740 And the Chinese media who's been following it, I predict in the days ahead that you and the Globe and
00:35:45.220 Mail, who have now had their pride challenged, will do more on this story. And I predict that more facts
00:35:52.980 will come out. I don't know. I just, that's a dangerous game to play when you're fibbing. And
00:35:58.180 I think that Mark Carney is fibbing. I think he's more deeply connected with the Chinese influence
00:36:03.700 than he lets on. I don't know. Sorry, maybe I'm getting too revved up just on a few words here. But
00:36:08.820 boy, when he said, don't trust the Globe and Mail. Really? Because the facts here, as you say,
00:36:14.100 are in the public domain. It's not guesswork. Ezra, I agree totally. And the thoughts in my mind are,
00:36:20.100 I've been reporting on various candidates who have provable United Front links. I'll give you an
00:36:25.300 example. There's a candidate in Vancouver, a real estate agent who travels to China to sell
00:36:31.940 higher priced properties to a foreign market. He's running against the NDP's Jenny Kwan. And look,
00:36:38.180 my colleague Bob Mackin, who you know out in Vancouver, has posted evidence that this Liberal
00:36:43.220 Party candidate speaks at banquets of the highest level United Front Work Department entities in
00:36:50.580 Vancouver, the very same leaders that can be connected to that individual I'm saying is standing
00:36:57.380 beside Peter Yuan during that patriotic anthem. Look, the connections are undeniable. They're in video,
00:37:05.300 they're in state level documents. And so when the Globe and Mail follows some of my work or others,
00:37:12.340 I'm hardened because Canadian reporters that wouldn't have the boldness to ask questions of
00:37:17.140 Mark Carney will have to follow the grand old lady of Canadian news. And I'll keep doing my digging and
00:37:23.060 hopefully the Globe keeps on following me. Well, and Sam, I want to encourage our viewers to go to
00:37:28.420 thebureau.news, N-E-W-S, thebureau.news. And by the way, you get emails from, like literally, it was funny
00:37:36.260 because obviously it was on a timer or something. When you sat down, I just got another email from
00:37:40.420 thebureau.news, so I'm looking forward to reading it. I know that candidate you're talking about in
00:37:45.780 BC, he's a white guy who speaks Chinese and he goes to China to sell Vancouver property. Here's a little
00:37:51.780 clip of him and you can see because he's selling real estate in Vancouver to overseas buyers,
00:37:57.460 they pay a large premium and that's pushing the cost of living up, which is a bit of an issue in
00:38:01.780 Vancouver and Toronto. Here's a quick clip. You mentioned Bob Mack and I think this is from
00:38:05.620 his Twitter feed. Take a look. By taking properties to China,
00:38:08.820 are we getting our clients a higher price, therefore raising the price overall?
00:38:13.220 I'd say yes. So you are part of the problem as far as unaffordability goes?
00:38:17.460 Again, you'd have to define what an unaffordable problem is. And so I don't think that I'm
00:38:22.260 creating a problem at all. I think I'm creating solutions. You're looking at about 35% who have
00:38:26.580 said they are strongly interested in buying real estate in Vancouver.
00:38:30.660 Well, this is very interesting. And I say again, I have an admiration. I have a deep admiration
00:38:35.940 for Chinese Canadians. I think they're a very successful immigrant group. They've been here
00:38:40.420 for more than a century. They helped build the railway. I'm from Western Canada.
00:38:43.620 Every single rural town along the railway had a Chinese laundry and restaurant, and it was part
00:38:49.860 of the fabric of the community. And obviously, a very successful community, economically, prosperity,
00:38:56.660 integration. And I believe there's a battle on within that community between Canadian-oriented,
00:39:04.500 freedom-oriented, democracy-oriented folks and newcomers versus they're sort of being colonized,
00:39:10.420 if I can use that word, by the Chinese Communist Party. And they know to go for the places of power,
00:39:16.180 like the police force. So whereas Mark Carney is thrilled that a CCP cop is his candidate,
00:39:23.460 I see danger there. And I'm a white guy. I mean, I don't feel pressured by this Peter
00:39:29.140 Yuan or Paul Chang. But if I was a Chinese Canadian, I would be. Last word to you, Sam.
00:39:34.180 What kind of... Do you think this will grow as an issue? Because Carney's answers
00:39:38.100 don't satisfy me. But do you think they'll satisfy most people?
00:39:42.660 I, like you, am heartened. And I respect the force that a Globe and Mail editorial or front page story
00:39:49.220 has. I need to be honest. You know, I can break these stories. But if the Globe and Mail does similar work,
00:39:55.220 then some of the, I could call them a little bit more liberal-friendly media in Ottawa,
00:40:01.060 we'll have to ask those questions. So Ezra, again, I have more stories that I'm working on. I have more
00:40:06.660 powerful scoops coming up because it's so important. Look, Mark Carney, as you started your monologue with,
00:40:15.860 intelligence from Canada says China is supporting them. Everything flows from that. And I'll have more
00:40:21.860 stories on that. That's great. I want to make one last call. Folks, we talk about citizen journalists.
00:40:26.900 We're fairly political at Rebel News, no doubt about it. We don't hide it. Sam is a deep subject
00:40:32.660 matter expert. But can you see how important it is? Do you see sort of the conveyor belt of the news?
00:40:38.020 It starts at Sam's shop. He publishes it. And then other journalists who follow Sam's stuff
00:40:44.340 popularize it and push it out there. So he is a very important part of the news ecosystem. And the fact
00:40:50.580 that he's independent gives him great freedom. So I would encourage you just to take a moment,
00:40:54.820 go right now on your computer to the bureau, B-U-R-E-A-U dot news, the bureau dot news,
00:41:02.580 and sign up not only to support him, but so you get the news first. Sam, great to see you. I can
00:41:08.420 hardly wait to see what you come up with next. Thanks, Ezra. All right, there he is, Sam Cooper.
00:41:13.860 Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:41:28.100 Hey, welcome back. A couple of letters today on Randy Hillier's surprising victory. I,
00:41:33.460 at least I was surprised by it at the Court of Appeal in Ontario. Akasha of the Nile says,
00:41:39.620 it's really pathetic that even though it was deemed illegal, the court still convicts people.
00:41:43.940 We need to elect our judges. I don't know if electing judges is the solution, but we certainly need,
00:41:50.100 I think, more vetting of judges in a public confirmation process. It's one of the ways I
00:41:54.020 think the U.S. system is better than ours. I think judges are political. They just are. In the states,
00:42:01.300 they're a little bit more politically accountable. That's the difference. Next letter,
00:42:05.540 GTDR says, of course he got off. After all, he's a former MPP. He would never have been convicted.
00:42:12.580 It's only Russia that does that. No, I disagree with you. Randy Hillier is not liked by the
00:42:19.540 establishment. And remember, he was convicted at the trial level. It's only the Court of Appeal that
00:42:25.700 overturned his conviction in a three to two ruling. So if you know Randy Hillier, and I know him a little
00:42:30.900 bit, he's so prickly, he's such a rebel, he's such a dissident, that there's no way he would
00:42:35.780 have been given favors by the establishment, either in politics or in the law. He won that
00:42:42.020 Court of Appeal ruling on the merits. And I think we should accept the victory because they're so rare.
00:42:49.060 That's our show for today. Until tomorrow when I'm coming to you from London. From all of us here in
00:42:54.660 Toronto and around the world, goodnight, and keep fighting for freedom.