Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Another Carney candidate, another China link — does anyone care, though？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today's show, very interesting, if I may say so myself. It's about Mark Carney

00:00:04.620 and his conflicts of interest with business and with China. We're going to show some videos,

00:00:10.280 including the new Carney candidate, who's a former Toronto police officer who was,

00:00:16.400 I'm going to call him a Chinese spy. We'll have video proof of some very strange things. 0.99

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00:00:51.100 Tonight, Mark Carney chooses another Chinese spy as a candidate

00:00:55.480 to replace the last Chinese spy. Does anyone care, though? It's April 10th,

00:01:00.420 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:04.920 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:16.520 Well, hi, everybody. I was at a Brampton rally yesterday featuring Pierre Polyev and his Brampton

00:01:22.480 area candidates. It's very interesting. I'm glad I went there, but I'll be honest with you,

00:01:26.220 I was a little bit worried. I went more than two hours early because I had seen

00:01:31.420 Sheila Gunn-Reid's report from Edmonton a couple of days ago, where more than 10,000 people came.

00:01:37.860 Lineup started three hours in advance. It was kilometers long.

00:01:41.140 So I set out for Brampton, which isn't that long a drive from Toronto. I got there super early. And

00:01:48.420 you know what? The parking lot was almost, you know, I won't say empty, but I got a great parking

00:01:53.140 spot. There was maybe 100 people in line. And when the event began, they actually closed some of the

00:01:59.940 sections in the big ballroom to make the room seem smaller because it was not full. And I'll be honest

00:02:05.520 with you. I was a little bit worried. Brampton is its own city, but it's half an hour away from

00:02:10.840 Toronto. It's really in the dense greater Toronto area of which there are, what, 7 million residents

00:02:17.020 these days. I won't lie. I'm a little bit worried about the turnout. And I see the new David Coletto

00:02:22.160 poll showing that the Conservatives have lost three points and the Liberals have gained three points.

00:02:27.780 So instead of it being tied at 39-39, it's now Liberals at 42, Conservatives at 36. And there's

00:02:37.040 still time to turn it around, but only 18 days left. A big factor is Jagmeet Singh absolutely

00:02:43.480 collapsing. Here's his latest foolish TikTok video. I think that he's going to lose his own seat. The

00:02:50.560 party may lose most of their seats and he'll just become a TikTok influencer. Here's his video today.

00:02:55.780 We're all going to jump together. Get ready, everybody. We're going to show them that we're

00:02:59.980 ready. We're ready to fight. We're ready to win. Here we go. Get ready. Get ready. Get warmed

00:03:05.940 up. Get warmed up. Here we go. Here we go. Let's go. Ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?

00:03:14.760 Here we go. Here we go. One, two, three. Yes. Yes. Thank you so much. The floor is actually shaking.

00:03:36.860 Yeah. An unserious man in serious times. I think one of the ways that the Conservatives could boost

00:03:43.980 their fortunes is to focus on Mark Carney, the person. I think Carney has effectively neutralized

00:03:51.420 the carbon tax issue. And I don't know if Pierre Polyev will be able to win on the who can handle

00:03:58.620 Trump issue. I just don't know if he can credibly take ownership of that issue. But I think Mark Carney

00:04:04.160 himself can be much more of an issue as opposed to issue issues. Who is Mark Carney? Could you

00:04:11.660 honestly answer that question? He hasn't answered that question. Where did he pay his personal taxes?

00:04:16.560 Where does he declare his residence as being? Does he have a Canadian health care card or does he still

00:04:22.080 use the British NHS? I say again, he told the U.S. Congress just last year that he's a resident of the

00:04:28.360 UK. How long has he even been here? Some of his answers suggest he hasn't even really been

00:04:32.300 following politics in Canada until just a few weeks ago. One of the things that's most interesting to

00:04:38.520 me is his Chinese connections. He's deeply conflicted. He's a businessman who has met with

00:04:45.540 Xi Jinping and has praised China publicly. That's a political statement more than a business statement.

00:04:53.680 And what's so weird is he will not disclose his financial holdings and he will not sell his

00:05:00.400 financial holdings. I don't need to know how Mark Carney made his money to date if he sells all

00:05:06.900 his stuff. But why won't he sell it? Isn't that weird? Is it some sort of insurance policy if he

00:05:12.760 doesn't win? Is he just holding on to his assets to try and get richer? Like isn't becoming prime

00:05:19.800 minister the top job for him? Or is he always looking for a better chance? Like when he left

00:05:25.260 Canada's bank of National Bank to go to run the Bank of England? Like is he still looking around

00:05:31.920 for a better deal? Why would you still hold on to your stocks and your other holdings once you're PM?

00:05:37.260 Don't you see that would horrendously conflict everything you're doing, including this? Here's

00:05:41.360 an example. A couple days ago, Mark Carney announced that the Canadian government was going to get into the

00:05:48.000 housing businesses and to actually build houses. That's an astonishingly bad idea. You know, it's

00:05:54.040 just $25 billion. Sure, $25 billion. Throw another $25 billion on the fire. But it doesn't take long to

00:06:00.740 Google and see that the company, which he ran until a few weeks ago, Brookfield, which is like a mini

00:06:07.520 BlackRock if you're trying to think about it. It's got about $900 billion in assets under management.

00:06:13.200 They invested $5 billion into a modular homes company. Here's their press release from three

00:06:22.000 and a half years ago. They today announced an agreement to acquire Modulair Group for approximately

00:06:28.040 $5 billion. What's the Modulair Group? Well, their website shows they build little modular homes,

00:06:34.300 tiny homes, like I saw in Lahaina, Maui, like prefab tiny homes. That is Mark Carney's plan for housing in

00:06:42.620 Canada. I don't know if it'll look like the FEMA camps that we saw in Lahaina or if it'll look like

00:06:48.480 the dilapidated government housing on Indian reserves. But I am aware of no place in the world where

00:06:54.580 government housing is of quality or of affordability. Like what are we doing allowing government-run

00:07:04.400 housing? That's an insane socialist idea. But at his core, that's what Mark Carney is. Anyhow, I say that

00:07:11.980 to you because it's relevant to our interview in a few minutes with Sam Cooper, the investigative

00:07:17.560 reporter who digs into Chinese connections. And that's actually the feature of today's show. I

00:07:22.960 talked to Sam for about half an hour, and I hope you enjoy it. By the way, a little programming note.

00:07:27.860 I will be doing the show tomorrow from the United Kingdom. I'm hopping on a plane tonight, flying

00:07:34.040 overnight, and I'm landing in London to cover Tommy Robinson's appeal of his sentence for contempt of

00:07:39.900 court. As you know, he's in prison for 18 months. He'll serve nine of those months, and he's serving

00:07:44.660 in solitary confinement. We already had a judicial review over the way he's being held. Unfortunately,

00:07:49.880 he lost that. Tomorrow is an appeal of the sentence itself. There's going to be one or two other things

00:07:56.880 we do continue to cover outside of Canada, even during the Canadian election. Obviously, being on the

00:08:03.060 ground in Canada is by far our most important priority. But there are still some things like Tommy

00:08:07.820 Robinson that I know are important to our viewers, and there may be one or two other things.

00:08:12.640 But as you can see every day, our people are on the ground. My friend David Menzies, right as we speak,

00:08:18.560 is at a Carney event in Hamilton. And I think our billboard truck is there too. So that'll be fun

00:08:24.040 to see how that goes. The For Canada third-party campaign group is going absolutely full tilt.

00:08:30.580 I'll have a report for you next week on how many millions of views those ads have had online,

00:08:36.260 in person, and on the radio. So that's my report for today. Stay with us. I had a deep interview

00:08:44.960 with Sam Cooper on Chinese influence in Canada. Take a look.

00:08:48.740 Well, I criticize the mainstream media in Canada for turning a blind eye or even covering up actively

00:09:06.240 Chinese Communist Party interference in our democracy. I note their total lack of curiosity, 1.00

00:09:12.480 for example, in possible Chinese involvement in the online vote that selected Mark Carney to be prime

00:09:21.080 minister. An astonishing thing I mentioned twice in the last few days was the almost uniform or

00:09:28.840 unanimous phraseology by the regime media when it was revealed that the Chinese Communist Party was

00:09:37.040 using the Chinese social media app WeChat to push Mark Carney is that all the media said,

00:09:44.180 no, no, no, China was targeting Mark Carney, implying that they were against him, when in fact the exact

00:09:50.880 opposite was true. The fact that so many media outlets use that same word targeting was so astonishing

00:09:58.300 to me. But I have to give credit where it's due. There are some journalists out there who do an

00:10:03.240 excellent job and even sometimes I would say a lonely job revealing this foreign interference in 1.00

00:10:09.120 our country. I often make fun of the Globe and Mail because they are the granddaddy of regime media.

00:10:16.680 They're owned by Canada's richest oligarch, David Thompson. I mean, the fact that they even take

00:10:21.260 government subsidies boggles my mind. But all that feels forgiven when I see stories like theirs today.

00:10:27.380 liberal candidate Peter Yuan chosen to replace Paul Chiang linked to pro-Beijing groups and events.

00:10:36.340 And it's a very in-depth report on the man who succeeded Paul Chiang. You'll remember Paul Chiang.

00:10:43.020 He made these comments to the Chinese media about having someone literally kidnap a conservative pro-democracy

00:10:51.640 Chinese-Canadian and take them to the Chinese consulate for a million-dollar bounty. Remember this clip? 0.97

00:10:58.600 The other person that's running most probably is, you know, the Chinese community, Joe Tei.

00:11:04.780 He is looking for the nomination. The Chinese media knows him.

00:11:12.400 He was in the media business in Hong Kong. And here in Canada, he's a radio host or, I don't know,

00:11:21.000 for Sinktown media or, so their child, he was a media person. So that's all he did, all he's like.

00:11:27.500 But also right now, he is wanted by the Chinese government. And there's a one-million-dollar reward

00:11:33.140 on his head. So they want, if you guys want to pick him up and take him to the Chinese consulate,

00:11:39.420 you make him a million dollars. I'm just joking. But there is a rest warrant out for him from the

00:11:45.300 government of China. And there is a reward for him. But apart from that, I can't say more than that.

00:11:50.540 Well, after white knighting for Paul Chiang for almost a week, Chiang quit. Mark Carney said almost

00:11:58.440 nothing. And handpicked the replacement, Peter Yuan, who is deeply involved in pro-China activity

00:12:06.760 in Canada. He's a former policeman like Paul Chiang was. But here he is wearing a Canadian police uniform,

00:12:17.180 singing a Communist Party song in Chinese in his full police regalia. Take a look at this.

00:12:28.440 Who are all those cops? Like that's not just one or two. That's at least half a dozen police wearing

00:12:44.860 Toronto or other Canadian police uniforms while singing a patriotic song to the Communist Party

00:12:53.180 of China. You know, if you remember a year or two ago, we sent David Menzies out to try and get the

00:12:59.000 facts about these Chinese police stations in Canada. You know, there's a few of these police stations

00:13:05.300 that are not affiliated with the Canadian government. They are the Chinese government's way of policing

00:13:10.940 and spying on and regulating the diaspora community here. Why bother having a ghost police station 0.65

00:13:21.300 that operates for China when you literally have people of a very senior rank? I would remind you

00:13:28.040 that Peter Yuan was very high. I think he was the deputy chief of police in Toronto. And he's not doing

00:13:35.420 this secretly. He's not hiding any of this. He's leaning into it. Unbelievable. Well, I mentioned

00:13:41.000 the reporters at the Globe and Mail, in particular Steve Chase and Robert Fyfe, who would be an excellent

00:13:45.440 on this. But I think if I had to name the one Canadian journalist who has made a mark on this

00:13:54.040 campaign and over the last few years in documenting and investigating the Chinese Communist Party's

00:14:00.480 interference in our democracy, it would be our guest today. You probably can guess who I'm talking about.

00:14:05.900 His name is Sam Cooper. He runs thebureau.news. And boy, are we ever grateful for his work and for him

00:14:12.820 taking the time occasionally to pop by. Welcome back, Sam. It's great to see you again.

00:14:18.080 Good to be with you, Ezra. You know, Sam, that video, we only showed about 10 seconds of it.

00:14:24.240 That was an in Chinese language, Chinese political event. You know, I don't think police are allowed

00:14:31.500 to be political in Canada. I know they're not. You couldn't, you wouldn't see police in uniform

00:14:37.920 at a Liberal Party function, a Conservative Party function, because the police uniform must remain

00:14:43.920 nonpartisan. So everyone trusts it. It's astonishing to me to see half a dozen Toronto cops in a partisan

00:14:52.600 political action for a political party. It just happens to be the Chinese Communist Party. I find that

00:14:58.840 astonishing.

00:14:59.300 It's an astonishing scene, Ezra. And I broke that story followed up well today by the Globe and

00:15:06.380 Mail. I broke it on Sunday. And I broke it because I have good contacts with Chinese language journalists

00:15:15.620 in Canada who have such deep knowledge of Beijing's repressive interference networks. And so, Ezra,

00:15:23.560 as you know, I reported on leaked intelligence documents, but my reporting was started by

00:15:30.340 looking at broad daylight evidence such as that video. And look, if you talk about the CCP police

00:15:37.200 stations, Ezra, I noted that Mr. Yuan was standing beside a Markham community leader who the RCMP has

00:15:46.520 investigated in Chinese police stations in Toronto and Vancouver. That's a fact. That meeting there,

00:15:54.560 many of the politicians alleged to be involved in the Greater Toronto-Beijing United Front election

00:16:01.700 interference networks were at that very same event. Ezra, the Consul General of Toronto, spoke to

00:16:08.720 everyone, including the police officers and the politicians at that event. I can go on and on,

00:16:14.300 but suffice to say, anyone with intellectual curiosity can look at academic documents and

00:16:20.820 videotaped events like this and say it raises deep concerns that this is Beijing's United Front

00:16:26.560 interfacing with Canadian police and politicians. And Ezra, I do want to stress good work by the Globe and

00:16:34.140 Mail in digging into some of the open source findings that many Canadian researchers posted to my story

00:16:41.520 after I broke it on Sunday. Anyone can find this stuff. They can also find pictures. I call them

00:16:49.360 concerning pictures of Mr. Yuan and other Canadian police officers sitting down with known RCMP

00:16:56.580 investigation suspects in the realm of organized crime. Deeply concerning.

00:17:02.140 Wow. Well, first of all, Sam, I didn't realize that you broke this story before the Globe.

00:17:07.160 I do still give them a tip of the hat for following it, but I didn't mean to take away

00:17:14.300 the gravity of your scoop, and I'm glad you corrected me on that. I am a subscriber to,

00:17:20.820 you know, in fact, literally right now, your latest email popped up on my phone, so I'm sorry I didn't

00:17:25.560 give you proper credit for that. I will say that Bob Fife and Steve Chase are interested in this file,

00:17:33.840 and I find that very heartening because they're very rare. So I won't give them the kudos for

00:17:39.020 breaking the story, but I do think it's worth acknowledging that they followed your lead because

00:17:44.800 I wish more reporters would. Here's what's so interesting about this for me, Sam. Paul Chang was

00:17:50.920 a shocking case. He tried to pass it off as a joke, but when you say three times, hey, turn in my opponent

00:17:59.820 for a million dollars at the consulate, and when you're a former police officer and when that kind

00:18:04.860 of stuff actually happens, it is not a laughing matter. And Mark Carney couldn't bring himself to

00:18:09.760 fire this guy for over a week, for almost a week. So they had this crisis. They lost a candidate over

00:18:16.560 it. So they went back to square one with this crisis in mind, and they chose this guy? I understand

00:18:23.820 choosing a Chinese-Canadian. That's the demographics of the riding. I get it. But to choose someone who's 1.00

00:18:29.380 deeply, deeply connected with the Chinese Communist Party after they just had a scandal, that's what's

00:18:36.340 so crazy to me. I mean, once might be carelessness, but twice? And I've got to ask questions about the

00:18:44.220 Toronto Police Service itself now. I mean, that first guy, Paul Chang, was a cop for 25 years. Did he treat

00:18:50.620 people on the ground differently if they were a Chinese democracy activist versus a Chinese CCP

00:18:57.720 activist? Because I would be afraid to be a Chinese-Canadian who is either neutral or pro-democracy

00:19:04.780 if a pro-CCP cop pulls me over? And you're saying he's hanging out with people who were working

00:19:10.420 on these ghost police stations? I mean, I don't have evidence that this guy was a spy,

00:19:17.280 but it doesn't seem like he's hiding his affiliations at all. I think this is nuts, Sam. How could they

00:19:26.620 have... The fact that they chose basically an identical guy to the guy they sacked is astonishing.

00:19:35.340 Ezra, I've got two points. First of all, your observation, as usual, is very prescient.

00:19:40.380 Look, for this individual to be constantly meeting with consul officials and community leaders that I'm

00:19:50.140 asserting to you, provably in court, community leaders that the RCMP is investigating in Chinese

00:19:56.780 police station networks, it points to a concern I'm already aware of in other cities such as Vancouver,

00:20:02.840 that very elite Chinese former police or military officials with direct connections, unfortunately,

00:20:12.500 to Chinese organized crime, make donations to police foundations in Canada. And it appears to me that

00:20:19.760 they attempt to advertise their linkages to Canadian police services in sending, I believe,

00:20:27.600 a message to the Chinese community that they have some influence within Chinese police. So that is one thing.

00:20:34.440 I'm saying you're right. But let's wind it back. In my story broken Sunday, on Mr. Yuan, there's an even more,

00:20:41.600 I would say, mind-blowing connection. Mr. Yuan joined the board of a Markham-based Chinese

00:20:49.180 international school called NOIC. He joined it within the past few years. And Ezra, this is the very same

00:20:57.300 school that came up in Hogue Commission testimony in which Chinese visa-holding students were allegedly

00:21:05.460 bussed into a riding to support a certain candidate under threat, allegedly from the consul general.

00:21:12.480 Oh, my God.

00:21:13.300 So let's look at that in the picture of this individual standing at a gala beside a community leader

00:21:20.780 where they were, you know, received the oratory of the consul general, the very same consul general unit

00:21:28.940 that's alleged to be involved in threats to students. Look at that triangulation, Ezra. I could go on and on.

00:21:35.300 It's mind-blowing.

00:21:36.000 It's very interesting because if that were in another political setting, I think it would be stopped.

00:21:42.500 I think there would be discipline. But the fact that the political party happens to be foreign, 0.97

00:21:47.940 that's just incredible. I think, again, my biggest concern with what Paul Chang, the candidate who was

00:21:54.420 fired a week ago, is that it's not so much that people would actually kidnap the pro-democracy

00:22:02.180 activists and turn them in. I mean, that was always a possibility. It was the message that was being sent.

00:22:07.860 If you pop your head up and say anti-communist things, if you pop your head up and say freedom

00:22:13.620 or democracy things, we're watching you, you know, be afraid, you know, as they say in French,

00:22:20.020 pour encourager les autres. To set an example, don't you talk democracy talk or we'll make public threats.

00:22:28.580 To me, it was less the risk that the kidnapping would happen and more the fact that a man of authority

00:22:34.580 who was a cop for 25 years, who's in the bosom of the Liberal Party of Canada is saying,

00:22:40.740 if any of you have big ideas about talking about democracy, just to let you know, that's off.

00:22:46.820 Hey, I want to show you something literally in my ear as we were talking, Sam.

00:22:51.780 Our producer, Efron, says that Mark Carney just made a response to the latest investigation that

00:22:59.380 you published on Sunday and that the Globe and Mail followed up with. So here, let's take a look at

00:23:04.260 Mark Carney's response. I have not seen this yet. Let's watch it together and then I'd love your

00:23:08.500 reaction. Mark Carney on your scoop. Let's take a look. My colleagues have a story today about a

00:23:16.420 Liberal candidate's relations with China-friendly groups and a meeting that you also held with a

00:23:21.620 pro-Beijing group. So my question is, why did you meet with this pro-Beijing group, Jiangsu

00:23:26.580 Commerce Council of Canada? And is the party okay with the fact that Liberal candidate Peter Yan

00:23:31.780 has been so close with the Chinese consulate and China-friendly groups, given the public

00:23:36.260 inquiry into foreign interference, says that this is a tactic China uses to exert influence?

00:23:41.140 Okay. Well, I'm sorry, but you can't believe everything you read in the Globe and Mail.

00:23:45.460 So in your question, and I guess in the article in question, you said I had a meeting with

00:23:51.940 whatever your term was, Beijing group. I've never heard of this group, okay? Never

00:23:56.340 heard of this group, certainly didn't have a set up meeting with this group. Full stop. So check

00:24:01.620 your sources before you write things like that, okay? Or your colleagues do. I'm a politician.

00:24:08.500 I go to events where there are hundreds and thousands, you know, thousands over the course

00:24:14.260 of a day of different people there. That is not a meeting. If somebody happens to be in the room,

00:24:18.820 takes a picture with me, that's not a meeting, okay? First point. Secondly, with respect to Mr.

00:24:24.340 Young, this is a person who has served his community for decades. The person who's deputy

00:24:30.980 commissioner of the police, okay? A person in discharge of those responsibilities

00:24:37.460 meets with a variety of community groups in the community because that's his job.

00:24:42.980 That's his responsibility. We're proud to have him as a candidate. And I honor his service,

00:24:49.940 including on today. Wow. There's a lot in there. Sam, you take a first crack at it,

00:24:54.740 because there's something I want to point out that might be a little different than your ankle.

00:24:57.540 You go ahead. What do you think of that? Sure. Sure. I'm happy to, Ezra. As no journalist in

00:25:02.260 Canada knows more about the entity, Jiangsu Commerce. Many of my, I call them open source research

00:25:09.620 colleagues, have posted pictures over the past years building upon my reports for global news.

00:25:16.500 That entity in Markham is an entity of business leaders in the Markham community. And so it has,

00:25:25.540 for legal reasons, I'll just say a couple, a number of individuals investigated by CSIS at the highest

00:25:32.900 levels in their Toronto election interference story. The group includes an individual that travels to

00:25:40.100 China and meets with the United Front Work Department at a high level.

00:25:43.460 So my comment to Mr. Carney, in his incuriousness or ignorance or deflection, he could have been

00:25:50.980 meeting with individuals already that he knew were investigated by CSIS. They might not have had Jiangsu

00:25:57.860 Commerce Group on their name tag. But if a number of them were in the room with him, and they say they were

00:26:04.980 meeting with him under that hat, he as a Canadian leader should be aware of that. I would add this,

00:26:11.860 this. My work has shown that that particular entity is deeply tied with liberal election,

00:26:21.060 local election riding associations in the Markham area. I could go on and on, but the people involved

00:26:28.260 there are Chinese community leaders who have a very high level of influence, I'm asserting,

00:26:34.900 in staff placement in the Liberal government. And I'm really getting a chance to unpack the knowledge

00:26:41.700 I've built for the past, you know, 10 years, I'd say three years in Toronto. But I do think that in

00:26:50.100 Mr. Carney's dismissive remarks to the Globe and Mail reporter, it shows a level of arrogance and

00:26:59.380 in curiousness that is not becoming of a Canadian leader. And Ezra, if I had two hours to speak to

00:27:06.340 you today, I could point to any number, a lot of Liberal candidates in Vancouver and Toronto that have

00:27:13.140 so many levels of meetings with these individuals in Chinese community associations that the RCMP and CSIS

00:27:21.620 repeatedly have told Mr. Carney's predecessor, Justin Trudeau and his party are there to surround

00:27:29.540 and influence Canadian politicians. So if Mr. Carney doesn't know this, I think he does know this.

00:27:35.060 Yeah, I think he does know this. Boy, is that interesting. You know, last night, by the way, Sam,

00:27:40.100 I went to a conservative political rally in Brampton. And obviously, the demographics of Brampton

00:27:46.340 are majority minority. So I spoke with a number of people from different backgrounds.

00:27:50.900 And one of the conversations I had that was the most surprising, and frankly, it really changed

00:27:56.740 some of my thinking, was I talked to someone who said he's an anti-Hamas Muslim. He's a proud Muslim,

00:28:05.780 and he doesn't want people to think that conservatives are anti-Muslim. But he says,

00:28:09.380 that doesn't mean you have to be pro-Hamas. And he said he's been kicked out of a number of

00:28:13.220 community Facebook groups when he criticized Hamas. And I just listened to this guy and he's standing

00:28:17.700 right in front of me. And I felt his pain and his loneliness, Sam, because he wants to be a Canadian

00:28:26.340 who's Muslim and has, you know, he's an immigrant here. He wants to be Canadian. He doesn't want the 1.00

00:28:32.020 long arm of Iran or other foreign countries or, God forbid, terrorist groups manipulating the

00:28:37.860 community. And I was very touched by what he said to me. And I can imagine it's even stronger in the

00:28:43.860 Chinese community. You have people who've came here. I mean, the difference in personal freedom 1.00

00:28:48.740 and choices and political freedom is so different. And yet the Chinese Communist Party has managed to

00:28:56.660 follow them here. And when they see someone like Paul Yuan, they think, oh my God, China's followed

00:29:04.260 me here. But then when they see Mark Carney, someone like you say, who should know better, basically say,

00:29:10.180 there's nothing wrong here. And he used the same line he used with Paul Chang. If you remember,

00:29:14.340 he said, Paul Chang has 25 years of policing. I respect that. Well, first of all, I want to know

00:29:19.300 a lot more about that police. I mean, you can't just say he served his community. He was good enough for

00:29:23.300 the Toronto police. He's good enough for me. I don't know. He, sorry, go ahead, Sam. Looks like you want

00:29:29.620 to make a point. Then I'll make my, there's one more thing in my mind that really a light bulb went on

00:29:34.340 when Mark Carney answered, but go ahead. I can see you have something to say.

00:29:36.740 A light bulb went on for me too, because you're right. For a second time,

00:29:41.380 Mr. Carney refers to the police background of his candidate. And Ezra, I'm sorry,

00:29:47.620 if a Canadian police officer were sitting down with a hell's angel repeatedly,

00:29:52.340 people would have a problem with it. But what has happened in Canada is because of some sort of

00:29:58.260 parallel society where the Chinese Communist Party is able to secure deep influence,

00:30:03.460 unfortunately, in our institutions and fear over our communities, people like Mr. Yuen and Mr.

00:30:10.740 Chang, whether through their duty or not, whether because they're in positions of diversity and

00:30:16.660 inclusion and community outreach, it just happens that they end up sitting down, as my photo evidence

00:30:24.340 will show with individuals in groups called the Hanmen Society. This is a society that I won't 1.00

00:30:30.980 ramble on. The U.S. government has sanctioned a high-level individual at the highest levels of

00:30:36.420 organized crime. And I believe that high-level Canadian police officers, whether Chinese, Canadian,

00:30:42.900 or any other ethnic group, know that very unfortunately community leaders of the Hanmen and other 1.00

00:30:50.900 groups are involved in organized crime. So Mr. Yuen, I'm happy to hear from him if he has any concerns

00:30:57.620 of sitting down with those individuals and if he would look at people from other backgrounds in Canada

00:31:04.500 in policing roles, meeting with people in organized crime and ask them any questions.

00:31:10.100 Yeah. You know, by the way, if someone comes from an authoritarian regime like China,

00:31:14.740 joining the police has a different meaning than we have here. Here in Canada, Dad, I want to grow up

00:31:21.700 and be a policeman and stop bank robbers. You know, there's a difference. What does a policeman mean

00:31:27.140 in Canada versus what does a policeman mean in communist China? In communist China, you're serving

00:31:32.580 the authoritarian government. You're sort of at odds with the people. In Canada, at least it used to be,

00:31:39.380 you grow up and you say, the police is on my side. Call the police if you're in trouble. In many

00:31:44.820 authoritarian regimes, the police are a source of terror. So for Mark Carney to say, oh, he's been

00:31:50.180 a cop for 25 years, that says it all. But hey, let me tell you the one thing that immediately clicked

00:31:54.660 on. It was the very first thing Mark Carney said. In fact, Efron, can you play the first 10 seconds

00:32:02.660 of his answer? I want you to show his first, very first reaction before he talks about the substance,

00:32:10.180 before he tries to defend polio. And what was the first thing Mark Carney says? Let's play the clip,

00:32:15.540 just for a few seconds. Well, I'm sorry, but you can't believe everything you read in the Globe and

00:32:19.940 Mail. So in your question, and I guess in the article in question, you said I had a meeting with

00:32:25.700 whatever your term was, Beijing Group. I've never heard of this group, okay? Never heard of this

00:32:32.260 group. Certainly didn't have a set up meeting with this group. Full stop. So check your sources before

00:32:37.940 you write things like that, okay? Or your colleagues do. Sam, when Mark Carney said you can't believe

00:32:44.980 everything you read in the Globe and Mail, that made me think back a few years to a bombshell by these same

00:32:52.260 two reporters, Bob Fyfe and Stephen Chase. And again, I acknowledge that you broke this big scoop

00:32:57.860 on Peter Yuan. But a few years ago, do you remember when this same Liberal crew, Gerald Butts, that sort of

00:33:08.900 team, faced a front page story by the Globe and Mail saying that Jody Wilson-Raybould had been pressured

00:33:16.340 by Gerald Butts to let SNC-Lavalin off the hook for prosecution for corruption. And Chase and Fyfe did

00:33:24.580 this huge report, meticulously documented. But they really didn't have a lot of people going on the

00:33:30.500 record, especially Jody Wilson-Raybould herself. Here's a clip of Justin Trudeau's reaction to that

00:33:36.980 blockbuster story that turned out to be 100% true. But Trudeau just brazened it out. He just

00:33:46.820 said, I'm not going to blink first. Here's a flashback to Trudeau. Same newspaper, same

00:33:54.660 scoop kind of bombshell, same response. Take a look at Trudeau.

00:33:59.300 Did you or anyone in your office pressure the former attorney general to abandon the prosecution

00:34:04.180 of SNC-Lavalin? The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false. Neither the current nor the

00:34:13.460 previous attorney general was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office to take a decision in this

00:34:22.260 matter. I don't think, Sam, that that's a coincidence. Because remember, Gerald Butts is,

00:34:28.100 that's where Mark Carney's spouse works. And Butts is now touring with Mark Carney. It's quite

00:34:33.380 something. Gerald Butts, you know, that that guy's got nine lives. And and it would not surprise me

00:34:39.380 one bit that that phrase, don't trust everything you read. You know, the story in the Globe and Mail

00:34:45.380 is false. I don't think it's a coincidence that that phrase was used. But here's what I predict, Sam.

00:34:50.820 And again, we know that you are dogged and determined. But the Globe and Mail is so big.

00:34:59.220 I would say it's the newspaper record for Canada, even though I have an affection for the National

00:35:03.060 Post. We have to admit the establishment newspaper is the Globe and Mail. It is the big old paper.

00:35:08.900 And when you say don't believe everything you read in the Globe and Mail, I think that's going to prick

00:35:13.140 Steve Chase and Bob Fyfe and the editor over there, David Wamsley. And I think Mark Carney made a mistake.

00:35:19.780 Because I know you would never give up on this. But I think this is now going to turn into a bit of a

00:35:24.180 showdown between the Globe and Mail and the Liberal Party. I think, like you say, so much of this

00:35:28.820 information is open source. These guys weren't hiding it. You didn't have a secret, you know,

00:35:34.420 inside source. You just looked at what's all out there, what the rest of the media is ignored.

00:35:38.740 And the Chinese media who's been following it, I predict in the days ahead that you and the Globe and

00:35:45.220 Mail, who have now had their pride challenged, will do more on this story. And I predict that more facts

00:35:52.980 will come out. I don't know. I just, that's a dangerous game to play when you're fibbing. And

00:35:58.180 I think that Mark Carney is fibbing. I think he's more deeply connected with the Chinese influence 1.00

00:36:03.700 than he lets on. I don't know. Sorry, maybe I'm getting too revved up just on a few words here. But

00:36:08.820 boy, when he said, don't trust the Globe and Mail. Really? Because the facts here, as you say,

00:36:14.100 are in the public domain. It's not guesswork. Ezra, I agree totally. And the thoughts in my mind are,

00:36:20.100 I've been reporting on various candidates who have provable United Front links. I'll give you an

00:36:25.300 example. There's a candidate in Vancouver, a real estate agent who travels to China to sell

00:36:31.940 higher priced properties to a foreign market. He's running against the NDP's Jenny Kwan. And look,

00:36:38.180 my colleague Bob Mackin, who you know out in Vancouver, has posted evidence that this Liberal

00:36:43.220 Party candidate speaks at banquets of the highest level United Front Work Department entities in

00:36:50.580 Vancouver, the very same leaders that can be connected to that individual I'm saying is standing

00:36:57.380 beside Peter Yuan during that patriotic anthem. Look, the connections are undeniable. They're in video,

00:37:05.300 they're in state level documents. And so when the Globe and Mail follows some of my work or others,

00:37:12.340 I'm hardened because Canadian reporters that wouldn't have the boldness to ask questions of

00:37:17.140 Mark Carney will have to follow the grand old lady of Canadian news. And I'll keep doing my digging and

00:37:23.060 hopefully the Globe keeps on following me. Well, and Sam, I want to encourage our viewers to go to

00:37:28.420 thebureau.news, N-E-W-S, thebureau.news. And by the way, you get emails from, like literally, it was funny

00:37:36.260 because obviously it was on a timer or something. When you sat down, I just got another email from

00:37:40.420 thebureau.news, so I'm looking forward to reading it. I know that candidate you're talking about in

00:37:45.780 BC, he's a white guy who speaks Chinese and he goes to China to sell Vancouver property. Here's a little

00:37:51.780 clip of him and you can see because he's selling real estate in Vancouver to overseas buyers,

00:37:57.460 they pay a large premium and that's pushing the cost of living up, which is a bit of an issue in

00:38:01.780 Vancouver and Toronto. Here's a quick clip. You mentioned Bob Mack and I think this is from

00:38:05.620 his Twitter feed. Take a look. By taking properties to China,

00:38:08.820 are we getting our clients a higher price, therefore raising the price overall?

00:38:13.220 I'd say yes. So you are part of the problem as far as unaffordability goes?

00:38:17.460 Again, you'd have to define what an unaffordable problem is. And so I don't think that I'm

00:38:22.260 creating a problem at all. I think I'm creating solutions. You're looking at about 35% who have

00:38:26.580 said they are strongly interested in buying real estate in Vancouver.

00:38:30.660 Well, this is very interesting. And I say again, I have an admiration. I have a deep admiration

00:38:35.940 for Chinese Canadians. I think they're a very successful immigrant group. They've been here

00:38:40.420 for more than a century. They helped build the railway. I'm from Western Canada.

00:38:43.620 Every single rural town along the railway had a Chinese laundry and restaurant, and it was part

00:38:49.860 of the fabric of the community. And obviously, a very successful community, economically, prosperity,

00:38:56.660 integration. And I believe there's a battle on within that community between Canadian-oriented,

00:39:04.500 freedom-oriented, democracy-oriented folks and newcomers versus they're sort of being colonized,

00:39:10.420 if I can use that word, by the Chinese Communist Party. And they know to go for the places of power,

00:39:16.180 like the police force. So whereas Mark Carney is thrilled that a CCP cop is his candidate,

00:39:23.460 I see danger there. And I'm a white guy. I mean, I don't feel pressured by this Peter

00:39:29.140 Yuan or Paul Chang. But if I was a Chinese Canadian, I would be. Last word to you, Sam.

00:39:34.180 What kind of... Do you think this will grow as an issue? Because Carney's answers

00:39:38.100 don't satisfy me. But do you think they'll satisfy most people?

00:39:42.660 I, like you, am heartened. And I respect the force that a Globe and Mail editorial or front page story

00:39:49.220 has. I need to be honest. You know, I can break these stories. But if the Globe and Mail does similar work,

00:39:55.220 then some of the, I could call them a little bit more liberal-friendly media in Ottawa,

00:40:01.060 we'll have to ask those questions. So Ezra, again, I have more stories that I'm working on. I have more

00:40:06.660 powerful scoops coming up because it's so important. Look, Mark Carney, as you started your monologue with,

00:40:15.860 intelligence from Canada says China is supporting them. Everything flows from that. And I'll have more

00:40:21.860 stories on that. That's great. I want to make one last call. Folks, we talk about citizen journalists.

00:40:26.900 We're fairly political at Rebel News, no doubt about it. We don't hide it. Sam is a deep subject

00:40:32.660 matter expert. But can you see how important it is? Do you see sort of the conveyor belt of the news?

00:40:38.020 It starts at Sam's shop. He publishes it. And then other journalists who follow Sam's stuff

00:40:44.340 popularize it and push it out there. So he is a very important part of the news ecosystem. And the fact

00:40:50.580 that he's independent gives him great freedom. So I would encourage you just to take a moment,

00:40:54.820 go right now on your computer to the bureau, B-U-R-E-A-U dot news, the bureau dot news,

00:41:02.580 and sign up not only to support him, but so you get the news first. Sam, great to see you. I can

00:41:08.420 hardly wait to see what you come up with next. Thanks, Ezra. All right, there he is, Sam Cooper.

00:41:13.860 Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:41:28.100 Hey, welcome back. A couple of letters today on Randy Hillier's surprising victory. I,

00:41:33.460 at least I was surprised by it at the Court of Appeal in Ontario. Akasha of the Nile says,

00:41:39.620 it's really pathetic that even though it was deemed illegal, the court still convicts people.

00:41:43.940 We need to elect our judges. I don't know if electing judges is the solution, but we certainly need,

00:41:50.100 I think, more vetting of judges in a public confirmation process. It's one of the ways I

00:41:54.020 think the U.S. system is better than ours. I think judges are political. They just are. In the states,

00:42:01.300 they're a little bit more politically accountable. That's the difference. Next letter,

00:42:05.540 GTDR says, of course he got off. After all, he's a former MPP. He would never have been convicted.

00:42:12.580 It's only Russia that does that. No, I disagree with you. Randy Hillier is not liked by the

00:42:19.540 establishment. And remember, he was convicted at the trial level. It's only the Court of Appeal that

00:42:25.700 overturned his conviction in a three to two ruling. So if you know Randy Hillier, and I know him a little

00:42:30.900 bit, he's so prickly, he's such a rebel, he's such a dissident, that there's no way he would

00:42:35.780 have been given favors by the establishment, either in politics or in the law. He won that

00:42:42.020 Court of Appeal ruling on the merits. And I think we should accept the victory because they're so rare.

00:42:49.060 That's our show for today. Until tomorrow when I'm coming to you from London. From all of us here in

00:42:54.660 Toronto and around the world, goodnight, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - April 10, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Another Carney candidate, another China link — does anyone care, though？

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