Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Antisemitism is no longer taboo in Canada

00:00:00.480 Hello, my friends. I'm afraid that the taboo against anti-Semitism is gone.

00:00:05.700 It's no longer impolite company to say something anti-Semitic.

00:00:10.500 I think it used to be like if you were to say the N-word.

00:00:14.140 People would never look at you in the same way.

00:00:15.760 You would discredit yourself in the public space.

00:00:19.060 That's how anti-Semitism was, but not anymore.

00:00:21.600 I'll make the case for that.

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00:00:42.060 Tonight, I'm afraid anti-Semitism is no longer taboo in Canada.

00:00:46.420 It's March 20th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:49.020 You're fighting for freedom.

00:00:51.980 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:00:58.200 You know, anti-Semitism used to be taboo.

00:01:06.720 It was impolite.

00:01:07.940 If you said something anti-Semitic, I think people looked at you and said, oh, you're that kind of a person. 1.00

00:01:13.800 It was partly a memory from the Second World War, from the Holocaust, which, of course, every year we get further away from. 0.97

00:01:20.220 And it was just sort of, I guess, an ethical standard, a polite company.

00:01:25.820 It would be like no longer saying the N-word.

00:01:29.900 The N-word, which may have been commonplace a century ago.

00:01:33.600 You say that, it almost automatically disqualifies you for polite company.

00:01:38.360 You say that once, and people can't not remember it.

00:01:41.760 The same thing, I think, is how it was with anti-Semitism.

00:01:46.360 That's over now.

00:01:47.520 I don't think the taboo against anti-Semitism is in effect, at least in certain segments of society.

00:01:53.860 Take a look at this.

00:01:54.520 This is Brian Mass.

00:01:56.500 Massé, I'm not sure you say his last name.

00:01:58.300 He's an NDP member of Parliament.

00:02:00.100 Here's a clip of him the other day, basically saying the anti-Semitism won't stop until Israel changes its direction,

00:02:07.880 which implicitly says, well, the Jews have this coming. 0.99

00:02:11.700 And anti-Semitism is justified because of what Israel is doing. 0.99

00:02:16.160 So, sorry, guys, anti-Semitism, it's just going to be the way it is. 0.97

00:02:20.080 That's how I interpret it.

00:02:21.220 You listen and you tell me what you think.

00:02:22.860 Take a look.

00:02:23.840 We've seen a rise of anti-Semitism in the past in this country as well.

00:02:28.640 And I want to note that, Mr. Speaker, because I understand the pain and suffering because I've seen it in my own community long before even this,

00:02:35.180 where swastikas are painted on sidewalks or in front of people's homes, and all that still exists in our society.

00:02:41.060 And it's something we have to continue to fight against every single day.

00:02:45.660 But we're not going to be able to fix anything right now until there's a ceasefire.

00:02:51.840 I see, of course, on social media, anti-Semitism is caused by the Jews.

00:02:57.280 The Nazis had a phrase for that. 0.84

00:02:59.300 They called it selbsttas.

00:03:00.600 They said that the Jews detest even themselves.

00:03:04.080 It's justifiable.

00:03:05.420 So that's going on in Parliament.

00:03:07.040 In the meantime, one of the largest French-language newspapers in Quebec, La Presse, publishes this cartoon of a blood-sucking vampire, Netanyahu, which was an old Nazi trope.

00:03:18.140 And I'm not for censorship, by the way.

00:03:20.820 I think that's an odious cartoon.

00:03:22.480 I don't think La Presse should have published it.

00:03:24.600 But I'm not for prosecuting them for a hate crime, which is funny because I'm quite sure La Presse is all in favor of Bill C-63.

00:03:32.280 Here's Pascale Saint-Onges, the Heritage Minister, who was asked about that cartoon.

00:03:39.220 And she sort of says what that NDP MP says, which is, well, you know, that cartoon, it's not the right time to have that cartoon.

00:03:48.260 Take a look at what she says.

00:03:49.460 You see this cartoon, what do you make of it?

00:03:53.300 Well, as Heritage Minister, I'm going to be very prudent around the independence of the press.

00:03:59.880 But what I am going to say is that, of course, you know, with everything happening right now in the Middle East and the tension that it's bringing in Canada as well,

00:04:09.260 because communities are feeling this conflict very profoundly, that it's normal that there's critiques with such a cartoon.

00:04:20.240 Really? OK, so the problem with that cartoon is not that it depicts Jews as bloodsuckers, but that it's just not the right time.

00:04:27.660 And did you hear her say that she really cares about free speech and independence of the press?

00:04:31.740 It's the first time I've ever heard a liberal talk about that.

00:04:34.240 Maybe I can quote her back to her next time she bans Rebel News from something.

00:04:39.700 Well, as Heritage Minister, I'm going to be very prudent around the independence of the press.

00:04:45.920 Same day, I learned about this news from the Hamilton Playhouse.

00:04:50.880 They had a Jewish festival, not an Israeli festival, but just a Jewish festival.

00:04:57.980 And this was in the planning for months.

00:05:00.600 And today it was canceled, they say, security and safety concerns.

00:05:07.600 Maybe, or maybe anti-Semitism, or maybe they just said, you know, we don't want to be associated with this.

00:05:12.820 But let's take them at face value and say that they're not making this up as a cover story, that they really are terrified of violence.

00:05:19.620 Well, that's what the police are for.

00:05:21.900 That's what Hamilton police are for, to protect against anti-Semitic violence.

00:05:26.460 But I guess Hamilton police are like Toronto police, or like York Regional Police, or like the Mounted Police, or like police everywhere in this country.

00:05:33.580 They're basically being told to stand down and let the Hamas hate marches continue.

00:05:39.620 And can you really blame the Hamilton police?

00:05:41.900 Here's Matthew Green, the Hamilton Center member of Parliament.

00:05:46.880 He's dressing up as a Palestinian activist in Parliament.

00:05:51.260 He's wearing a costume.

00:05:52.440 Take a listen.

00:05:53.060 Questions and comments?

00:05:57.020 The Honourable Member for Hamilton Center.

00:06:00.280 Mr. Speaker, there's been lots of conversations in the House around trying to find balance.

00:06:05.120 And in fact, the Conservative's position has somehow tried to make this whole thing, all of the atrocities, all of the murders, all the deaths, as though it's solely Hamas's fault.

00:06:16.520 So in asking for balance, not once have they acknowledged that the Hamas doesn't own F-16 fighter jets.

00:06:23.480 Hamas doesn't own 2,000 bombs that have been dropped on civilian populations.

00:06:29.520 Hamas didn't force people from the north to the south and then threaten to invade Arafa.

00:06:36.900 Hamas didn't bomb schools and hospitals.

00:06:40.160 So I would ask through you, Mr. Speaker, to the Honourable Member, in finding balance and seeking balance from some of the ridiculous assertions from the Conservative Caucus, could the Honourable Member please reflect on what the imbalance of power and the asymmetry of power and military might looks like in that region and what the legacies of settler colonialism looks like here in this country?

00:07:04.420 Yeah, if that is the view of the leading citizens of Hamilton, you can see why the police don't want to protect those Jews.

00:07:12.520 And, you know, so a Jewish film festival is disrupted or stopped before it even starts.

00:07:19.140 All of these happened on the same day.

00:07:21.640 All of the things are just listed.

00:07:23.720 If you're having trouble figuring this out, just transpose.

00:07:28.620 This is a good test for anything.

00:07:29.940 Transpose the races here. 0.89

00:07:31.140 Say instead of Jews, say we're talking about black people.

00:07:35.620 And instead of Hamas hate marches, say we're talking about the Klan.

00:07:38.740 Now, it's hard to do that, I know, because we've never really had that problem in Canada, well, ever in a significant way.

00:07:45.900 These hate marches that we see are truly unprecedented in their scope and their scale and their intensity.

00:07:53.020 I'm not saying that in Canada's long history we've never had an anti-Semitic or an anti-black or a racist moment.

00:07:58.660 Of course we have, but not in the continuous way we've seen here with the politicians and other community leaders just winking at it.

00:08:07.220 Could you imagine if a hundred Klansmen and actually wearing the hoods, because a lot of these Hamas types, they wear masks. 0.97

00:08:15.260 If they set up loudspeakers outside of a black church and were hurling invective and calling black people the worst names possible and saying, get out of here, go back to Africa, because that's what they're saying to the Jews.

00:08:28.060 And could you imagine if in the face of that, the media would ignore those symbols like the Klan hood and would just say, oh, a peaceful protest.

00:08:38.260 That's what they'd say about the Hamas hate marches.

00:08:41.160 Could you imagine if political leaders dressed up in hoods in parliament to stand in solidarity with the Klan? 0.54

00:08:48.900 This is not even a commentary on what's going on in the Middle East.

00:08:52.160 I'm not talking about Israel versus Gaza right now.

00:08:54.800 It's not what I'm talking about.

00:08:56.340 I'm talking about anti-Semitism in Canada, directed at Canadians, blamed sometimes on what's going on in Israel.

00:09:04.380 But really, what does a Jewish film festival have to do with Israel at all?

00:09:08.240 These are Jews in Hamilton.

00:09:10.180 Well, like I say, anti-Semitism, it's no longer taboo.

00:09:14.840 I blame our leaders for that.

00:09:16.620 I don't blame my neighbors.

00:09:17.960 We're going to talk in a minute to Sue Ann Levy. 0.67

00:09:20.920 And I know she's a Jewish woman who has lived in Canada her whole life, obviously.

00:09:25.580 She's been with the Toronto Sun.

00:09:27.480 My contention is that the taboo is gone in elite society.

00:09:32.040 But ordinary Canadians, they don't like anti-Semitism one bit.

00:09:36.000 Come right back.

00:09:36.680 We'll have our talk with Sue Ann.

00:09:46.140 Well, I learned a long time ago.

00:09:47.800 When I was a kid, actually, never speak poorly about someone else's city.

00:09:53.760 They can, but you can't say, I agree. 0.99

00:09:56.800 Because people take it personally.

00:09:58.360 Everyone likes to grouse about a problem they have in their city.

00:10:02.280 But it would be like complaining about their own family.

00:10:04.260 Let them do it.

00:10:05.700 You just sort of nod along quietly.

00:10:07.980 Don't chime in.

00:10:09.140 That hurts people's feelings.

00:10:10.700 And by the way, there is something lovely about every place on Earth.

00:10:15.280 Sometimes you just have to look a little bit harder for it.

00:10:17.820 Now, I say this from the atrocious city of Toronto, the city that most Canadians, I think, if they had to pick a place that they hate, they would say Toronto.

00:10:28.140 And these days, unfortunately, it's a place that let a lot of Torontonians say, look at this video.

00:10:33.940 I mean, I'm on TikTok, and I know I shouldn't be.

00:10:36.720 But what I like about TikTok is that the kids, I think the kids are going to be okay.

00:10:40.940 Let me show you a couple of videos recently from Toronto.

00:10:44.120 Here's one that I saw just today of some young fella making fun of that Toronto policeman who said, hey, make it easier for home invasion robbers.

00:10:55.580 Put your keys near the door so they grab them and go.

00:10:58.960 Remember when the cop said that?

00:11:00.160 Here's the cop.

00:11:01.840 There's also updated advice for all vehicle owners.

00:11:04.840 A message echoed by Toronto police speaking at an Etobicoke safety meeting last month.

00:11:09.280 Constable Marco Ricciardi had a new message for vehicle owners who keep their fobs in Faraday pouches.

00:11:15.880 To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door.

00:11:21.420 Because they're breaking into your home to steal your car.

00:11:24.100 They don't want anything else.

00:11:25.300 A lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them.

00:11:28.020 And they're not toy guns.

00:11:29.020 They're real guns.

00:11:30.020 They're loaded.

00:11:31.560 Yeah, welcome to Toronto.

00:11:32.820 Here's someone in Toronto trying to laugh about it on TikTok.

00:11:39.280 Hey, get in here. 0.99

00:11:49.560 It's cold out.

00:11:50.260 Come on, get in here. 1.00

00:11:53.860 Thank you so much for choosing my car to take today.

00:11:56.980 It's a privilege.

00:11:58.340 I've got some sparkling water for you.

00:12:00.260 I've got orange vanilla and mango pomegranate.

00:12:03.720 It's cold out.

00:12:04.600 So I've taken the liberty of turning the butt warmers on for you.

00:12:07.020 The car's obviously been running, just waiting for your arrival.

00:12:11.400 I've got the spare key and some pistachio chocolates.

00:12:16.340 Before you head out, do you have any questions about the car?

00:12:18.720 I don't want you to have any troubles while you're on the road.

00:12:22.760 Okay.

00:12:23.800 Well, with that, take care.

00:12:27.380 And enjoy my Honda Civic.

00:12:30.660 I could show you TikTok videos all day, but my point is there's a lot wrong with this city.

00:12:36.380 Taxes, traffic, crime, out of control, immigration, unemployment.

00:12:43.720 There's so many terrible things about Toronto.

00:12:47.240 And then overlaid on top of that for the last half a year has been a wave of anti-Semitism that I don't think anyone has ever seen in two generations.

00:12:59.220 Toronto is, in some ways, the most Jewish city in Canada.

00:13:04.380 About 200,000 Jews, including a lot of Orthodox and visibly Jewish people.

00:13:10.220 It's a pretty Jewish-friendly place.

00:13:13.260 And I've lived here as a Jew.

00:13:15.720 That's not my central identity, I don't think.

00:13:18.440 But it was sort of wonderful.

00:13:20.000 You felt free and safe, as you did really everywhere in Canada, until recent days and weeks, when pro-Hamas hate marches scream at synagogues, shout at children, shoot or throw Molotov cocktails at schools and synagogues.

00:13:37.980 That happened in Montreal.

00:13:39.740 Vandalized Jewish-owned restaurants and bookstores.

00:13:44.420 And the police stay back, do nothing, sometimes even bring them coffee, like this.

00:13:51.520 They left, no one told them they can't come back, otherwise he would have said, okay, I understand.

00:13:54.880 Okay, I'll just ask just so...

00:13:57.720 I hate to say it, Toronto is becoming a dangerous place and an unsafe place, at least for Jews. 1.00

00:14:05.300 That's how it feels.

00:14:06.400 I don't want to be alarmist.

00:14:07.620 I still feel like I can walk around safely.

00:14:10.300 But I feel like these roaming mobs can get their way.

00:14:14.860 And the people who are supposed to do something about it, they don't.

00:14:18.260 Remember when there was sort of an eight-hour standoff outside a large Jewish synagogue north of Toronto in a city called Vaughan?

00:14:28.720 Well, there's a specific section of the criminal code, section 176.2.

00:14:33.020 It specifically forbids the disturbance of a religious ceremony or indeed any other social gathering.

00:14:41.800 It is specifically criminalized in the criminal code.

00:14:45.020 And yet police stood there all day, not issuing a single charge.

00:14:50.680 I feel like the people who are supposed to be protecting us aren't.

00:14:54.780 And here to talk about this with us is someone who has lived in Toronto for quite a while as a Jewish woman.

00:15:01.860 And I'd like her observations on the matter.

00:15:04.280 We're talking about our friend Sue Ann Levy, who works for True North.

00:15:08.300 Sue Ann, great to see you again.

00:15:10.300 Great to see you, Ezra.

00:15:11.300 You know, I'm not going to pretend that I'm terrified to step outside my house.

00:15:16.660 I'm not.

00:15:17.740 But I know that in a city that, you know, was famous for its Jewish neighborhoods and its Italian neighborhoods and its Greek and Portuguese neighborhoods, all of which were fun and interesting and had delicious food.

00:15:29.660 Well, now there's hundreds of thousands of new Canadians from Muslim countries, many of whom have brought anti-Semitism with them to Canada. 0.99

00:15:41.740 I find them terrifying, which is, I think, their goal.

00:15:46.060 These hate marches really are scary.

00:15:48.280 They are, and, you know, I saw signs of it in 2021 when there was an insurrection, although brief, not like current one, in May of 2021.

00:16:00.880 Do you remember on Nathan Phillips Square when a bunch of Muslim pro-Palestinian sympathizers chased some Jews out of Nathan Phillips Square and terrified them, surrounded cars filled with young Jewish ladies who I interviewed at the time when I was still working for the Sun?

00:16:18.940 And so, you know, nobody reacted to that.

00:16:23.540 Nobody dealt with it.

00:16:24.460 And here we are, 2024, where, you know, Israel is finally pushing back from that brutal day in October. 0.84

00:16:33.340 And the whole world seems to be against us, doesn't it, Ezra?

00:16:37.420 Because I surely feel that way.

00:16:39.600 And I know I'm not easily intimidated, not at all.

00:16:43.200 You know that.

00:16:44.060 But I know a lot of people in my own community who feel that everyone hates us, that it's unsafe to walk the streets of Toronto, some whatever major city in Canada, or even in Europe.

00:16:58.560 I'm going to disagree with you only in one respect.

00:17:01.040 You say you feel like everyone hates us.

00:17:03.180 I don't feel that way.

00:17:04.400 I feel like the majority, the great majority of Canadians are friendly to Jews, are welcoming to Jews, are understanding of Jews, and are shocked by what they see in the streets.

00:17:17.560 When I look at these anti-Semitic hate marches in Canada, and also we visited some of them in London, England, I see that they're about 80 or 90% Pakistani or Bangladeshi or Syrian, like newcomers here from other countries, not old stock Canadians, and some woke college radicals or old commies.

00:17:41.280 I think the vast majority of what have been called old stock Canadians hate these hate marches.

00:17:48.600 And by the way, a lot of new immigrants from other places hate them too. 0.78

00:17:53.020 Chinese Canadians, Hindu Canadians, Sikh Canadians.

00:17:56.700 I have never met a Sikh Canadian who loves these Hamas hate marches.

00:18:01.760 So it feels like we're surrounded, but it's just because it's these activists and the police don't do a damn thing about it.

00:18:09.180 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:18:11.240 And, you know, I don't feel like the world hates us, but I think the loud minority has been allowed to get an upper hand.

00:18:21.520 You're absolutely right.

00:18:23.000 My mother even has a caregiver who's of Indian descent, East Indian descent, and she's gone to some of these pro-Israel rallies.

00:18:33.340 It's unbelievable.

00:18:34.380 The number of Persians, the number of people who support us in Toronto and in Canada, and are horrified by the abuses, by the inability of the cops to deal with it, whether they're intimidated or they've been told to stand down by the Trudeau liberals and by our mayor, Olivia Chow, here in Toronto.

00:18:52.300 You know, you know, it's just people are horrified that this is not being dealt with and that, you know, our communities are being targeted.

00:19:03.340 So with such vitriol and with such intimidating violence.

00:19:08.720 You know, there are no hate marches outside Muslim mosques.

00:19:18.400 There are no Muslim restaurants that are being vandalized with the pro-Israel point of view on this war.

00:19:26.160 There aren't screaming mobs blocking – I mean, listen, there are always protesters where Justin Trudeau goes, but you don't see pro-Israel mobs blocking streets, threatening – you just don't.

00:19:41.000 And yet, the response from officialdom – I mean, I'm holding in my hand here the Islamophobia Awareness Month or whatever, posters that the city of Toronto is putting up about women in hijabs not being welcomed.

00:19:57.780 Here's a tweet from Mayor Olivia Chow just a couple days ago.

00:20:01.580 Now, Islamophobia is a term that my late friend and your late friend, Tarek Fadda, said that is a term that captures people who are critics of the religion of Islam, reformists.

00:20:27.320 And so he thought it was an overbroad term.

00:20:30.440 But even if you use a slightly different word, people who are anti-Muslim, the mass of hate crimes in recent months has been against Jews.

00:20:40.500 But to put up –

00:20:40.940 Overwhelmingly.

00:20:41.940 And by the way, you never see a leftist politician say, I'm worried about anti-Semitism, without immediately tacking on Islamophobia.

00:20:50.980 But I've never seen the reverse.

00:20:52.520 I've never seen a leftist politician talk about Islamophobia and then tack on, oh, and also we care about the Jews.

00:20:59.880 I think in some ways they – I don't even think they respect Islam.

00:21:04.640 I think they're just terrified by Islam. 1.00

00:21:06.640 I'm talking about leftists like Mayor Olivia Chow. 0.98

00:21:10.080 They are terrified.

00:21:11.520 And I think the police are terrified by the unruly mobs.

00:21:15.200 You know, I can't believe that they have allowed them to get out of control as they have and enabled them to continue to take over our streets, pray on our streets, P-R-A-Y, not E-Y, and walk up and down screaming for the eradication of the Jews. 1.00

00:21:37.380 You talk to the average cop and they would say that this is ridiculous, it's out of control, but someone is telling them to stand down.

00:21:45.200 I don't know whether it's the mayor or the police chief or all of the above.

00:21:49.340 But Olivia Chow, you know, you bring up Olivia Chow, and she just did an op-ed in one of the local newspapers, Toronto Star, talking about how her mother was starved and likening it to what's happening in Gaza.

00:22:04.800 That woman doesn't even understand what's going on over there. 1.00

00:22:08.480 But the way she talks is like totally ignoring the fact that Hamas is holding back the food. 1.00

00:22:19.560 Hamas is stealing the food. 0.67

00:22:21.660 I mean, Hamas has gotten off so easy in all of this. 0.76

00:22:25.400 It just enrages me when I think of it.

00:22:28.140 It's astonishing.

00:22:30.840 I mean, let me read the headline of that, Olivia Chow.

00:22:33.100 She's the mayor of Toronto. 0.99

00:22:34.140 She says, my mother was a hungry child in a war zone.

00:22:37.320 Mayor Olivia Chow on why the untold suffering in Gaza hits close to home for her and so many Canadians.

00:22:42.860 I mean, I appreciate the fact that the mayor of Toronto, who is overseeing tax hikes, crime, traffic, snarls, subway lines that are years out of date, she'd rather talk about foreign affairs than her real job.

00:23:00.480 But in a city where you have constant hate marches, I haven't seen her lift a finger about those, but it's crazier than that.

00:23:08.800 Yeah, I live in a riding called York Centre.

00:23:10.500 It's fairly Jewish riding.

00:23:14.120 And the member of parliament is a liberal who is actually also an Israeli, Yaara Sachs.

00:23:21.240 And she, she, the Jewish Israeli MP for York Centre, is posing for photos with the PLO leader Mahmoud Abbas and voted.

00:23:32.240 She voted for the NDP motion to condemn Israel and cut off arms sales to a democracy and to accuse Israel.

00:23:41.620 Yaara Sachs, a Jew in Toronto, sold out her own people. 0.57

00:23:47.360 I don't understand.

00:23:48.220 That's the weirdest part.

00:23:49.760 I get why the Hamas, the Iranian or Turkish or Pakistani hate, I get why they hate the Jews.

00:23:56.720 It's an ancient blood feud, whatever.

00:23:59.220 But what's Yaara Sachs' excuse?

00:24:02.120 Going along to get along.

00:24:03.860 That's it.

00:24:04.420 She wants to be part of the liberal team. 0.92

00:24:06.720 It's disgusting.

00:24:07.980 It's unprincipled.

00:24:08.980 Both, I could not believe that she voted.

00:24:12.320 She, I knew she's going to, she was going to be troubled from the time she got elected because I could see that she was trying to play both sides of the fence. 1.00

00:24:19.100 And that never works.

00:24:20.120 You can't, you can't, you have to pick a side.

00:24:22.500 You can't take, you can't play both sides.

00:24:24.700 Olivia Chow does the same thing. 1.00

00:24:26.020 You know, the people who say, I'm worried about Judaism, anti-Semitism, I should say, but I'm also worried about Islamophobia, which I might add is not occurring in this city.

00:24:38.920 What you're seeing on the streets of Toronto is pure hate towards the Jews and not Zionists, Ezra.

00:24:45.020 Remember, we're called Zionists because people think they can get around it and not be anti-Semitic by calling us Zionists.

00:24:53.660 They don't hate the Jews, they just hate Zionists. 0.99

00:24:56.220 90% of Jews are Zionists in the diaspora.

00:25:00.260 Well, not just that, but when you, when you target Jewish restaurants, Jewish schools, Jewish synagogues, you're sort of giving the game away.

00:25:06.600 You know, I, I saw a poll, the Harvard-Harris poll in the United States, it shows 90% of Americans who were sort of grownups support Israel, but it's the youngest generation that's wobbly, it's about 50-50. 0.98

00:25:21.820 And I ascribe that to the woke universities.

00:25:25.580 I think the stats are similar in Canada.

00:25:27.540 I haven't seen the exact same questions asked here.

00:25:30.840 I use my eyes, though.

00:25:33.340 And what I see on the streets of Toronto are paid provocateurs.

00:25:38.040 Remember, Toronto has always had a rent-a-mob leftist Antifa group of thugs.

00:25:44.500 I see they've just been weaponized on this one issue.

00:25:48.100 I saw that when I was in London, England as well, old Socialist Workers' Party leftists who, you know, were against the West.

00:25:56.460 They were for the Soviets, they were against capitalism.

00:26:00.380 This is just the next iteration in their war against the West.

00:26:04.420 So I see some of that in Canada, too, the anti-everything group.

00:26:08.120 But it's been buttressed in numbers by immigrants to Canada from places where they hate Jews.

00:26:15.440 And we do not screen people for qualitative things like, are you tolerant of other groups or are you...

00:26:23.120 When people come from countries that it's 90, 95% hate the Jews, where that's official cultural and government policy, they're not going to lose that hatred on a quick plane ride to Canada.

00:26:35.640 And it's politically incorrect to say it, but we have brought anti-Semitism in here.

00:26:41.060 Not every Muslim is anti-Semitic, of course.

00:26:43.480 In fact, many refugees from those places have come here to be free.

00:26:48.500 But there's a critical mass of Jew haters, and the politicians are, A, afraid of it, and, B, they're courting the vote.

00:26:55.680 I think it's a perfect storm.

00:26:57.260 It's very bad times.

00:26:59.700 Yeah, and they refuse to assimilate. 0.60

00:27:02.080 And don't you just love the queers for Palestine? 1.00

00:27:04.620 Oh, my God.

00:27:05.160 The gay trans and gay homosexual, it's mostly male gays, but there are a lot of dykes, and I'm going to say dykes because they are stupid dykes, who support... 1.00

00:27:17.360 And you say that as a member of the LGBT community.

00:27:20.640 Yeah.

00:27:21.240 Well, yes, exactly.

00:27:22.540 But I'm not a stupid dyke, and I'm not a dyke.

00:27:25.880 But, you know, tats and green hair and purple hair, the purple hair girls, as one comedian in New York says. 0.75

00:27:33.760 And they're so disconnected from reality.

00:27:38.080 They support the Palestinians. 0.97

00:27:40.820 They support the Gazans. 0.55

00:27:42.520 But if they were to go over there, they'd be thrown off a roof.

00:27:45.860 They'd be tortured for being homosexual. 0.99

00:27:49.080 Well, Dr. James Lindsay points out that queerness, sometimes it can be used in a sexual way, but it also means just sort of an anti-establishment way.

00:27:58.760 Any queerness, any way to undermine the West. 1.00

00:28:02.880 And so I think that's the common ground.

00:28:04.900 I don't think these queers for Palestine actually want to go over there. 1.00

00:28:07.700 They just say, oh, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

00:28:10.780 These folks from Hamas hate the system.

00:28:13.780 I'm on their team.

00:28:14.600 I think that's a...

00:28:15.460 I don't think it's any deeper than that.

00:28:17.080 Well, perhaps.

00:28:19.020 But, I mean, we've seen openly at some of these, you know, the trans marches and when they were marching against transphobia, that some of those people came out and, you know, denounced transsexualism and, you know, gender identity.

00:28:36.240 So, I mean, I think they just have blinders on.

00:28:39.380 They have a willful hatred of the Jews and they're willfully denying what they stand for.

00:28:45.120 Well, you know what?

00:28:46.080 I think that Jews in Canada have had a golden age until October 7th. 1.00

00:28:51.440 There was nothing in life we could not do in this country.

00:28:53.900 We could feel safe.

00:28:54.860 Our schools did not need security guards or heavy-duty, you know, surveillance cameras.

00:29:01.800 I grew up west of Calgary in the countryside where we were really the only Jewish family for miles around.

00:29:07.900 Not only did I feel safe, I felt loved by the wider community.

00:29:12.620 I feel like we have imported our own demise and I see no help from the premier, from the mayor, from the prime minister.

00:29:22.040 I see some help from the Toronto Sun and the National Post to speak back.

00:29:27.120 But those are, you know, more people get their news from TikTok or Instagram than get it from print newspapers.

00:29:36.020 I think we have to get rid of Justin Trudeau and put in a more sensible man like Pierre Pauleev.

00:29:42.580 I think he's stronger on this issue.

00:29:43.860 But I think so many of our institutions have absolutely been conquered by the woke left that has decided that they didn't really like the Jews that much.

00:29:53.560 And they look around and count noses and they're on the sides of Hamas. 0.57

00:29:57.340 I don't know.

00:29:57.840 I'm sort of depressed.

00:29:59.060 I want Canada to be safe and free and peaceful again.

00:30:02.520 And I don't want these hate marches outside synagogues every bloody weekend.

00:30:06.080 Can I please have my country back?

00:30:08.340 Last word to you, Sue Ann.

00:30:09.440 Well, until we get rid of the woke idealism in universities, the mainstream media has been a problem, too.

00:30:18.200 They just repeat, you know, the propaganda.

00:30:21.040 I mean, we have so much to clean out.

00:30:22.920 But I think a good start is getting rid of Trudeau.

00:30:25.200 I mean, I'm so disgusted with the Liberal Caucus.

00:30:28.180 And let me tell you, a lot of Jews in Toronto in particular supported the Liberals.

00:30:33.020 So, you know, they've got to look at themselves as well.

00:30:36.160 Yeah. Let me throw in one last question because you've made me think of that.

00:30:40.260 Here's Anthony Housefather.

00:30:42.120 Now, he's not from Toronto.

00:30:43.340 He's from Montreal.

00:30:44.720 He's from a very safe Liberal riding.

00:30:47.580 And he's been a fairly successful politician.

00:30:50.520 But he, well, I'll let him say it.

00:30:53.020 He says he's very disturbed by what he saw in his own Liberal Party.

00:30:57.300 And he's reconsidering his options.

00:30:59.040 Here, take a look at this video clip.

00:31:00.500 Is this the first time you're actually kind of reflecting on your role within this party?

00:31:04.740 I mean, this has been going on for a number of months now.

00:31:06.720 There's been tensions in Canada rising in 1970s.

00:31:09.100 And you've seen your government struggle to sometimes or, you know, come up with a position that satisfies everybody.

00:31:15.260 And you've kind of been at the forefront of this.

00:31:17.260 But is this the first time you're actually kind of reflecting on your future here?

00:31:20.020 I think it's the first time in my parliamentary career that I've had a reflection like this, where I truly felt last night that a line had been crossed.

00:31:33.300 When my party members got up and cheered and gave a standing ovation to Heather McPherson and the NDP, I started reflecting as to whether or not I belonged.

00:31:45.400 And I will let you know further how I feel over the coming days for the moment.

00:31:50.300 I'm still there.

00:31:51.100 Well, I mean, he's having his sort of Hamlet moment where he's, you know, oh, I'm thinking I'm deeply disturbed.

00:31:58.120 Let me think.

00:31:59.080 Well, you've had a lot of time to think about it, buddy.

00:32:01.940 I don't know.

00:32:02.260 Maybe he's just maybe that's why he's sort of advertising to Trudeau that he wants some sort of negotiation or something.

00:32:10.160 I mean, I think a principled man would have left by now.

00:32:12.100 But it's not his father's Liberal Party anymore.

00:32:17.520 I mean, the chief fundraiser for the Liberals is a Jewish guy from Montreal.

00:32:22.720 I got to think, at what point do they say, I am supporting an anti-Semitic party?

00:32:28.220 What do you think is going to happen to Anthony Howe's father?

00:32:30.440 Do you think he's going to quit?

00:32:31.920 I think if he had a spine, he would.

00:32:34.300 I mean, look at Kevin Wong.

00:32:35.880 I mean, I wasn't too thrilled with him, but he left and became an independent.

00:32:39.420 And he's been one of the strongest advocates for the Jews.

00:32:43.840 I'm very impressed by what.

00:32:45.920 So Anthony should take a page from Kevin Wong's book.

00:32:49.780 You know, you and I are both Jewish.

00:32:52.000 We live in Toronto.

00:32:52.860 But I think that, you know, we're secular.

00:32:55.380 We're integrated.

00:32:56.400 We work in the world.

00:32:58.200 And I would like to think that both you and I would be having the same conversation if suddenly there was a shocking tsunami of hatred towards blacks or towards Sikhs or towards another group.

00:33:13.460 And I think we would.

00:33:14.560 I think we would stand up.

00:33:16.120 It's odd to have to stand up for yourself.

00:33:18.340 So much of what both you and I do is standing up for other people in our journalism.

00:33:22.520 It's just shocking and demoralizing that we're the ones being targeted.

00:33:28.120 The big difference, Ezra, is that politicians and the institutions would stand up for these other groups.

00:33:36.480 We don't have that.

00:33:38.180 We do not have that.

00:33:39.260 Which is shocking because we, I think, always thought we did.

00:33:42.920 Well, thanks for your time, Sue Ann.

00:33:44.140 Great to see you again.

00:33:45.500 Sue Ann Levy.

00:33:46.320 She writes for truenorth.news.

00:33:50.060 TNC.news.

00:33:51.380 Stay with us.

00:33:52.160 More ahead.

00:34:01.480 Well, that's our show for today.

00:34:03.700 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:34:08.240 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:09.300 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - March 20, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Antisemitism is no longer taboo in Canada

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